December 12, 2024 • 35 mins
Deborah Flora fills in for Dan on Thursday, commenting on John Kirby's weak (and late) explanation on potential drones or unidentified manned aircraft flying off of the Atlantic coast and overhead in New Jersey.
John Fabbricatore offers his expertise as an ICE agent on the upcoming planned deportations of criminal illegal aliens by incoming border czar Tom Homan and the Trump administration.
John Fabbricatore offers his expertise as an ICE agent on the upcoming planned deportations of criminal illegal aliens by incoming border czar Tom Homan and the Trump administration.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Capless and welcome to today's online podcast
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome to the Dan Caplis Show. I am not Dan Capless.
I know that all of you wonderful listeners are smart
enough to realize it the immediate moment that I opened
my mouth. No, I am Deborah Flora is so happy
to be sitting in this chier again. So enjoyed our
time together on Tuesday. And also I'll be here with
Ryan Schuling, our very own Ryan Shuling every Friday at
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two pm. Looking forward to that tomorrow as well. But
want to jump right into this because we've got some
great guests coming up after the break. We're gonna have
John Prepregatory joining us. He was the former ice director
over Wyoming and Colorado, former CD six candidate. He and
I actually went down to the border with a few
others when I was with a different radio station last year,
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and so we've had a lot of great conversations about that.
And then at five o'clock, Jennifer say is going to
be joining me. She's the former just top notch gymnast
who also started xx x Y as a clothing company
to protect women in girls' sports and safe spaces. I
do have one of those baseball caps. Love it, work
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out with it all the time. It's very fun. But
you know what, let's just jump right into the show.
And I have to preface this part of it that
pretty much everything I've done has been for two reasons.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Love of country, love of my children.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I am a mom to say the least, and when
I hear stories like this, they both come together. That's
why I've been involved in educational freedom parental rights running
for office. I'm traveling around currently doing a lot of
national policy work in the area of school choice and
parental rights.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
But when I share this story.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
With you, the mom and me comes out even more
than the policy expert. Because the behavior of this particular
witness when he was in front of the House Oversight
Committee about why he should receive an A I guess
you would say grade is very reminiscent of how I
had to deal with my own children. How to set
the stage, this clip you're about to here is Georgia
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Representative Rich McCormick. He is asking the current Postmaster General,
Lewis de Joy. I think that's a funny name, because
this clip actually brings me a lot of joy because
it's just darn funny. But here's what happened when Representative
McCormick said to the current Postmaster General, and keep us
in mind, by the way, I think we all know
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that everything now is compared to the post Office and
the Postal Service as being the bottom level of customer
service and efficiency. But this is what Rich McCormick said
to him and Lewis de Joy's response when he was
asked to rate himself and he gave himself an A rating.
Thank you Ryan for playing that clip number five.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
You, sir, do not get.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
An A grade.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
You cannot give yourself that grade. I just think you can't.
You can't create your on paper, sir. I've been to
medical school. I bet I got my MBA.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
You can't.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
You were greater by the United States people and they
don't use your service anymore. You bankrupt. You bankrupt this
through your reputations. Only through your reputations, you are responsible
for the fall of the Postal Service.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
And the lack of accountability is responsible.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
So it's kind I'm trying to fix.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I am trying to fix.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
On your service.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
With all my watch the same stuff, with all the AI,
with all the computer systems, you're worse than if I
took yourself and picked up the mail and delivered it
two miles down the road. That's you.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
I hope you got that on camera.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
This is the response that the postmaster just gave Congress
when he doesn't like what he hears, literally covered his
ears and gave himself the grade of A And with that, sir,
I rest good.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I'm not sure which part of that to address first. Now,
I do wish you could see this. If you haven't
seen it, make sure you go and you actually watch
the visual the visual of this interchange. So, first of all,
this is the person that is over our entire postal service.
And first of all, let's just set the stage. Since
Lewis de Joy took over as a Postmaster General in
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twenty twenty. First of all, there was a lot of
controversy about it because he actually came from the private
sector where he ran a competitor to the Postal Service,
so there was a.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Conflict of interest.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Some people thought he was the first person to take
that role since nineteen ninety two without any previous experience
in the USPS.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
And what did he do.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
He continued to decline the USPS volume of service, slowed down,
the turnaround he limited over time. He banned additional trips
to deliver mail that is not exactly great customer service.
He decommissioned hundreds of high speed mail sorting machines.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Have no idea why he would do that.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
And it actually increased a concern about mail and ballots
getting to where they needed to be in time. Now,
what is interesting about this is not only if you
hear his responses when being called on the carpet. First
of all, I love the comment you do not get
to grade yourself. That was the teacher comment to the
students sitting there deflecting.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Then the current Postmaster General said, I just did That
was his response. That's not true.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
That was another response, you blamed someone else in this case,
namely Congress. Then he said some derogatory thing like you're
talking to yourself.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I'm not kidding you.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I think every mother has heard those kind of deflections.
And then when he simply put his hands over his ears,
The visual.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Is absolutely studing.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I don't know whether to laugh or cry, because, to
be honest, this is someone that is in a very
high position in the government. And when you think about
how important our postal service is now so much of
it has gone private, to see that kind of childish
behavior is amazing. The only thing that was missing was
him putting his hands over his ears and then saying, Nana, Nana,
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I don't hear you.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
That's basically what he was doing.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I tell you, I think that you know, we need
more moms to rise up and just put a lot
of people in time out. He would have been in
time out had I been sitting in that seat. So
there you go, another episode that builds the American's confidence
and those who are appointed to government.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
We just want people that are good at what they do.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
So here's another situation that is undermining people's confidence in
the current government to say the least. And many of
us have been hearing about these dozens of mysterious drones
over New Jersey and New York.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
They're basically the two states that they're talking about.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Over three thousand reports suspiciously near by the way the
Picatinny Arsenal Military base, the Trump National Golf Club in
the area, the Verrizanto Brisno And why is this important?
It connects Brooklyn's US Army Garrison, Fort Hamilton and Staten Island,
US Coast Guard station in New York, the largest of
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its kind on the East Coast. Now, I don't know
about you, but that seems like some sites that people
would want to look at if they were wishing us ill.
Now here's the incompetence part again. While we are hearing
a lot more from New Jersey senators and representatives who
are trying to get to the bottom of this, here's
what we're hearing from the FBI. The FBI said these
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drones could range from quote sophisticated state actors and adversaries
that want to hurt us to quote just a nuisance
drone that could cause harm. But they don't know the
answer yet. How does this happen in the United States
of America? I mean, really, it is time that we
demand from our government. I think that's why there's going
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to be a changeover. Actually, they're doing their job. When
you think about it. What is government's job in a
constitutional republic? It is two things.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Protect the constitutional.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Rights of its citizens, and protect their security. That's it
failing miserably. By the way, the Pentagon gave us this
little gem. It said, definitively it is not from a
foreign actor. However, they cannot tell us what it is.
So I don't know how they can tell us it's
definitively not from a foreign entity when they can't even
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tell us what it actually is. New Jersey Congressman Jeff
Andrew has stated that confidential sources that have talked to
him have talked about an Iran mothership that while the
Pentagon is denying that it is actually off of our mainland,
all that is being said it is no longer in
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its own port. I don't know about you, but if
you're having flashes of all kinds of disaster, movies of
a mother ship and three thousand sightings of drones, well
you are not alone. I'm going to head to the
break early because when we come back, we're going to
have John Fabrigatory joining me. He is the former director
of ICE covering Colorado as well as Yoming. We're going
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to talk about safety and security because he also served
in the Air Force in a security role as well.
So when we come back, we're going to find out
how much confidence that John has perhaps in those statements
of it's not this, but we have no idea what
it is. Time to get better from our government. Don't
go anywhere when we come back of John Fabricatory. This
is Deborah Flora sitting in for Dan Caplis.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Welcome back to the Dan Caplis Show. I am Deborah
Flora sitting in for Dan Caplis, and we have been
talking about things that make you go pause and lose
a little bit of confidence in our current safety and security.
And I cannot think of anyone I would rather have
joined me to talk about these topics than a good friend,
John Fabricatory.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Many of you may know him.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
He is a retired field office director for the Denver
Office of Ice. He oversaw areas including Colorado and Wyoming,
covering nearly two hundred thousand square miles and more than
two hundred federal employees. I did feel safer when he
was in that position, to say the least. He was
also the Republican nominee for Congressional District six against Jason Crowe.
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You know, John, thank you so much for joining me
and thank you for always being willing to serve our country.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I so appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
Thank you for having me on. It's just been a
little while since you and I have been together.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah, we had a lot of experience with that when
we were down at the border in El Paso in
twenty twenty three and many times since then. But it's
good to do this again, and once again, thank you
for running. I just want to say that anyone who
gets into the arena deserves a great, great pat on
the back of appreciation. You ran a great race, but
I appreciate that you're still on the job, and I
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want to just jump right into it. There has been
a lot going on, obviously about our border, and when
you look at the fact that you know, we've got
the Denver mayor, Mike Johnston, who has he's stepped back
from this, but he actually said that he would use
Denver police to stand up against any deportation efforts. What
would you say, as someone who has served both in
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the military and the Air Force, who has served with ICE,
what would you say about a comment like that.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
It was very unnecessary and it really it shouldn't have
been said. You know, I had the opportunity to work
with Denver Pead hundreds of times over the years. You know,
when I first came to Denver in the late nineties,
there were some great men and women that I got
to work with, great detectives, great great keep guys and
girls on the street that you know, we were able
to solve a lot of crimes, arrest a lot of people,
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especially drug traffickers and the X crimes, and a lot
of different things. And it's working together that keeps the
community safe. And you know, Mike Johnson saying stuff like
that is it's just not good for Colorado and really
should not have been said.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
No, it has been.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Instead, we've been dealing with the situation and you and
I've talked about this many times over the last couple
of years that since twenty nineteen we're basically a sanctuary
state where there's already prohibition between this coordination between federal
law enforcement, state and local law enforcement. Let alone throwing
this into the mix. I want to jump into the
changes that are coming. You know, when we were down
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there the border together, you introduced us to so many
great people. We heard that you know, a huge portion
of who were coming over from what people call the
Stans Afghanistan to Jikistan, Uzbekistan, et cetera, Russia and China.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
What do you think.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
About Tom homan As being named by Donald Trump to
be the incoming new borders are obviously he has a
long history as a former ICE director. What do you
think the changes are going to be and what do
you think about that selection?
Speaker 6 (13:03):
Tom is absolutely awesome. I have the opportunity to work
from many times. You know, with ICE is a cops cop.
He says exactly what he means, which is awesome when
you're working for somebody and you know the changes that
he is going to make really aren't changes you am
forcing the law. He's just going to take the laws
that we have and say, hey, guys and girls, go
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out there and actually enforce this. Yes, it's what Trump
tried to do in the first administration, but the left
just you know, they just rallied against them and they
sued him hundreds of times. You know, But this time around,
I think prisident Trump is way more prepared for it
this time and he's not going to allow that to happen.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Deborah Flora sitting in for Dan Campus. My guest is
John fabrigatory.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
John.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
You know, I was talking in the opening of the
show about these drones three thousand sightings, Pentagon can't say
what they are, what they're not, all of these sorts
of things. I love that Tom Homan coming in is
the new board. That means that it's not just a
southern border, it's a northern border. He's also going to
oversee maritime and aviation security. How refreshing is that after
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a Chinese balloon just traped its way across our missile sites.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
What do you think you served in.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
The Air Force as a security police and security forces member.
Tell me your thoughts about this whole drone siding and
the lack of intel that is out there seems to
be out there about what's really going.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
On, And that is the key point, the last part
that you just said, the lack of that's what really
worries me. So, you know, the last few days, I've
been on the phone with a lot of buddies who
either just recently retired from the military or are still
in and they are even like, we don't know what
this is.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Wow, And the fact that.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
We don't shows how far behind we are with our
security methods as technology advances. Now, some of these drones
that they're spotting seem to be pretty advanced drones. It
does seem like they're your backyard type drones that you know,
just your basic persons flying out there. So it kind
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of worries me that our security apertures not to the
point where we can detect this. We know what's flying
up there, and we know how to keep our community
safe for the potential damage that these drones can bring
in because remember Dubbra, these drones could be packed with explosives, right,
things like that. I mean, we've seen it over in
Ukraine how drones are being used in warfare right now,
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and you know, it's something that we should be highly
concerned about. And it worries me that there's really no
effort or or even intel coming in to let the
American people know that we're safe from this.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Absolutely, I mean it feels like we're going backwards. I mean,
you think about under the Reagan administration, we helped Israel
build their iron dome technology, and we can't even figure
out what some drones are. Unfortunately, we have a break
coming up, a heartbreak at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
But I want to ask you this.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
There's a lot of historyonics about what deportation will look like,
people saying, oh, I'll stand in front of the takes
like Tianneman Square, and you know, federal law enforcement will
be firing into civilians, which is so irresponsible to say, Yeah,
tell us what you think in the last couple of
minutes here, what is this actually going to be looking like.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
Initially, it's going to be going after criminal aliens. That's
where they're going to go after people who are you know,
on the radar of law enforcement who are currently in
many of the jails that we have right now. So
that's going to be the initial drive. And then secondary
to that are going to be people who have already
seen an immigration judge and are refusing to leave the
United States. So not only did they break into this
country illegally, they had the opportunity to see a judge,
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and they're still refusing to follow our immigration laws. Those
are who are going to go after initially, and you know,
people saying that they're going to do this and that
it's just immature and it's not going to happen.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Yeah, no, it seems very irresponsible.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
You know.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
One of the last things I want to say is
you know, thank you again for your service, John, and
I hope that we see you a lot.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
More helping in this area.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
You know, why don't you just give a last view
for folks of what we heard of who's actually coming
over the border, so we can just always position this
to our neighbors.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
Yeah, we know we need to be concerned because it's
people from all over the world that are coming across
that border. And you know, the intel that we have
is we're seeing, you know, people from China, people like
you said, from the stands, there are criminal aliens coming
across the border. Gang members. That's who was allowed in
these last four years. That's who Tom Holman is going
to focus in on, and that's how we're going to
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make America safer.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I so appreciate Thank you so much, John, and I
think everybody's before that that's not even partisan, but at
least there's going to be a real borders are. It
kind of makes me laugh that Kamala Harris was the
last borders are and we just saw what.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Happened when she was when she was in that position.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Thank you, John, I appreciate your joining the show and
thanks for your continued service.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
To Colorades into our country.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
Happy Holidays, Deborah.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
You too, Merry Christmas to you. Well, don't go anywhere.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
When we come back where you continue this conversation about
how do we secure our country.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
We'll be right back on.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Deborah Flora sitting in for Dan Caplis.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
You're listening to the Dan capless Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Welcome back to the Dankaplis Show. I'm Deborah Flora sitting
in for Dan today and so enjoying the conversations we
are having. We just had John Fabricatory join us. He's
a former ice director that covered the area all of
Wyoming and Colorado, ran for CD six, served in the
Air Force, someone who knows security, and we had a
great conversation. By the way, if you've missed any of
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this or the great show that we had on Tuesday,
where a Dallas Jenkins, the creator of The Chosen and
the director of the current Christmas movie that is in theaters,
you get everywhere the best Christmas pageant ever. You can
see those where they are posted for podcasts. But wanted
to continue this conversation because John shared and confirmed what
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I thought was the biggest and most concerning thing about
this headline going on the drones. Nearly three thousand have
been cited, or three thousand sightings of them, shall we
say over New Jersey and New York. Now, let's we
think that that's just an odd place to have them.
Let's remember that they are suspiciously near according to sources
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Picatinny Arsenal Military Base and Arsenal Military Base, Trump National
Golf Club in the area. We know there's already been
threats against the President elect and former present ccident against him.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
The Verrizono Bridge. Now, why is that important?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Because in New York it connects Brooklyn's US Army Garrison,
Fort Hamilton and Staten Island's US Coast Guard station in
New York.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Now here's the problem.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
We're being told all these things that these drones are not,
but we're not being told anything that they are. Case
in point, here is a clip from John Kirby. He's
a White House National Security Communications advisor, and let's hear
that clip, clip number twenty four, that said, we.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
Certainly take seriously the threat that can be posed by
unmanned aircraft systems, which is why law enforcement and other
agencies continue to support New Jersey and investigate the reports.
Even though they have uncovered no malicious activity or intent
at this particular stage. While there's no known malicious activity occurring,
the reported sightings there do, however, highlight a gap in authority,
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and so we urge Congress to pass important legislation that
will extend and expand existing counter joone authorities so that
we are better prepared to identify and mitigate any potential
threats to airports or other critical infrastructure, and so that
state and local authorities are provided all the tools that
they need to respond to such threats as well.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Well, there you go.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
To me, that sounds like some good old fashioned passing
of the buck, because let's just hear who he said
should be a responsible for this local law enforcement, as though,
by the way, our wonderful lawforcement, our police officers and
others do not already have their hands full in states
where there has not been a lot of support for them.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Then the next one was Congress, and.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
He did say, oh, we do take it very seriously,
but the reality is this, really the American people have
no confidence because this is the same exact administration. Let's
recall this, shall we two years ago Chinese balloon the
size of three school buses let's just refresh your memory.
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It was the size of three school buses, hovered about
sixty thousand feet in the air, drifting across the continental US.
From reports, it started in Alaska, went all the way
across down through Montana, and they didn't even bother to
shoot it down until it was off of our coast. Now,
that happened for seven days, passing over sensitive security areas
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including Maelstrom Air Force Base and Great Falls, Montana, which
was a home to stockpiles of missile and nuclear defense infrastructure.
What happened at the time that this was, you know,
was going on the.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Same Biden White House.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
And this is where I have to give Kirby the
Bless your Heart Award of the Day, because bless your
heart that you have to keep covering for this kind
of ineptitude of security in this current administration. But at
that time Biden claimed it was quote not a major
security breach. What did we find out after it was
shot down? It was communicating with China through an American
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Internet provider equipped with thousands of pounds of equipment, including
a massive surveillance payload. Well, yes, that did not turn
out to be nothing to worry about. So as we're
hearing this right now, they can't tell us what it is.
And John Fabricatory confirmed my suspicion that that's probably the
biggest issue right now. And now they're saying that this
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is really nothing to worry about. You know, it's time
that we absolutely demand greater accountability and protection from our government.
I keep returning to this, what is the role of government.
It is not to dictate every part of our lives
or our constitutional representative republic is to protect our individual
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liberties and our safety and security. Let's say that under
this administration that has been an abject failure. I was
very encouraged by the way John Fabrigatory also shared he
knows Tom Homan, who is going to be the incoming
borders are. Let's remember by the way he takes that
mantle from Kamala Harris, which.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Is unfortunately a low bar. He will far surpass that.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
And I love the fact that he will actually be
over not just the southern border, not just the northern border,
but also maritime and aviation security. I have a feeling
that starting January twentieth, there'll be a lot more information
and a lot more action about anything that just happens
to be floating over our sovereign nation.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
I certainly hope so.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Okay, switching gears by the way, speaking of borders ours Tuesday,
I was sharing that the Time magazine was about to
announce their person of the year. We went through on
Tuesday who they were looking at. One of them was
Kamala Harris, the outgoing borders are who did not even
go down to the border for years, and in fact
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actually went to Guatemala first.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
And I want to tell you.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
One of the biggest, oh biggest things that.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Irked me when we were down there.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
I remember talking to a border agent and these are
stoic guys that deal with constant threats. They're dealing with
the people they call the stands Afghanistan to Jikistan, Whuzbekistan, Russia, China,
Venezuelan gangs coming over. So to see this man break
down in tears, and why did he under Kamala Harris
as the quote unquote borders are. They so rushed through
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the processing because they did not want there to be
any children down there where it could be a bad
photo op where it could look like maybe they were
holding children, you know, the way that they falsely accused
the Trump administration of having children in cages. That's not
what it was. I saw those places firsthand, their chain
link fences just separating areas, but nobody was chained up
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or put in, you know, some kind of a cage.
But what happened under the Biden administration, under Kamala Harris, well,
according to this border security agent, and it is the
reason why quietly Susan Rice retired because a report was
going to come out that tens of thousands of children
are now lost somewhere in America.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
And this border patrol agent told me that they were.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
So rushed by the Trump administration to process people that
they actually would just hand these children off to whoever
would show off show up to take them, no verification
process at all. So I'm happy to announce that that
very same former borders are Kamala Harris was not chosen
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as the Time magazine Person of the Year because, as
we talked about, her claims to fame would have been
having a one hundred and seven day presidential campaign where
she did not receive a single vote to be the
Democrat nominee, having run a one point five billion dollar
spending account just in those one hundred and seven days
and still being twenty million dollars in debt. Nope, they
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did not choose her. Well, you may have already seen.
The other people they were considering was Joe Rogan, Kate Middleton,
who certainly our prayers go out to Kate Middleton, but
would not have been my choice. Elon Musk would have
been one of my choices. Benjamin Nett and Yahoo, Claudius Scheinbaum,
the first woman president of Mexico, Donald Trump, and Mark Zuckerberg,
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and the person they named is actually Donald Trump. Nice
to see when they do something the right way. But
one of the first leaks of the magazine cover had
this state man underneath it, President of the Divided States
of America. You know what, It's time for the mainstream
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media to pull back because they are part of what
is dividing us. When you see CNN, MSNBC and by
the way, the N in both of those stands for nonsense.
When you have pundits on those shows saying that we're
going to see American US military or federal officials shooting
into crowds of civilians, saying that you should cut off
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your relatives if they voted for Donald Trump. We know
where the division comes from, and I believe that we
may have an opportunity now to begin to be the United.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
States of America once again. Well, don't go anywhere. We're
heading to a break.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I am Deborah Flora sitting in for Dan Cappas and Hey,
by the way, here's your question five seven seven three
nine text into the show.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Who do you think are behind the mystery drones? Don't
go anywhere. I'm Deborah Flora sitting in for Dan Caplis.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
And now back to the Dankapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Welcome back to the Dan Caplis Show. I'm Deborah Flora
sitting in for Dan Kaplas. Love that song, Stand in
the place where you live, Stand in the place where
you work.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
That is a perfect setup for the.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Guests we're going to have at the top of the
hour after the break. That is going to be Jennifer Say,
who is someone who has stood up against so many
injustices in our society, and she definitely has a message
to encourage each and every one of us to do that.
In fact, Jennifer and I recently stood together in August.
I was one of the co hosts. I guess kind
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of co organizers of the first ever March for Kids
in Washington, d C. We had people like Tulca Gabbard,
Glenn Beck, Jennifer Say, and others were we stood together
to really basically advocate for this radical idea, which is
parents have the right to be the ultimate authority in
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their children's upbringing.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Yep, I know crazy.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
You would think it's crazy from all the things that
are happening in our culture right now. I've often said
that if our founding fathers ever thought that they would
get to the place where that is even being questioned
in the slightest they would have put parental rights in
the Bill of Rights. But it was unthinkable to them
that that would happen. In fact, when you look over
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the history of Western civilization, the family is the building block.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
It is the building block.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Of our civilization, which is perhaps why it is being
so attacked right now. It's an area that I've been
involved with a lot. My husband and I have a
media company. We made the documentary called Whose Children Are They?
And the reason why we did that is to show
every single area where this is being undermined. Now, what
does this have to do with Jennifer She is standing
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up against some of the craziness that is going on
and protecting girls and women's sports and safe spaces. How
does this intertwine with all that, Well, let's just say this.
For instance, in my home school district where I went,
Sherry Creed School District, there is evidence that they have
been socially transitioning children without their parents' knowledge or consent.
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When you have these situations going on where Title nine
is being undermined, that is another part of this radical movement.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
You know, let's just talk a little bit about what's
going on. As we all know.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
A little over a week ago, the US Supreme Court
heard the Tennessee case United States Versus Scrimmetti. Now, what
is this In Tennessee, there's a law prohibiting transgender medical
procedures for miners. And what's interesting about it, it's just
one of twenty five US states, Tennessee is that has
banned gender transitions for transgender miners.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
More than fifteen have enacted.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Shield laws that protect against such procedures.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Well, here's what's interesting.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Many people think, oh, you know, there's a puritanical nature
of America. Let's just put this a little bit in context,
shall we. The United Kingdom socialist country that has led
the way on some of these medical procedures, just voted
to detect miners from puberty blockers and it will not
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allow them for children under the age of eighteen with
gender dysphoria. Now, their gender dysporia is a real thing,
and any child that has it deserves support, deserves to
have a lot of help through that process, but not
necessarily irreversible medical procedures.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Well, the UK just voted against it. And why did
they do that.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Here is what they said, following official advice from medical experts.
And let's be clear, because the UK is a nationalized
socialist medicine situation, they have incredible records on this, and
they are reversing course because here's what they said. Quote,
there's currently an unacceptable safety risk and the continued prescription
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of puberty blockers to children. Now, let's contrast this, shall
we with our own Supreme Court. Now, first of all,
Katanji Brown Jackson should recuse herself from this case because
when she was confirmed, she literally said she is not
able to define what a woman is because she's not
a biologist. Well, if you can't define a woman because
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she's not a biologist, she should not be weighing in
on the veracity of using this irreversible medical procedures frequently
irreversible on children. And then let's let's also contrast that
with sodomayor who compared compared this procedure, these chemicals that
are given surgeries, et cetera, to aspirin, saying that there
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is always a risk with any medical procedure. Well, last
thing I heard, aspirin is not irreversible. In fact, that's
why you need to take a couple every so often
if you have a headache.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
But let's also remember, by the way, we are more
radical than Europe in many fronts, even when it comes
to abortion. Let's say, wherever you are on that issue,
let's just put this in context. By the way, most
European countries have waiting periods before an abortion, and it
is in most of them not legal after the first trimester.
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Here in Colorado up to the moment of birth for
any reason at all time, to bring some common sense
back to our state and back to our country. And
speaking of a last lack of common sense and the
Supreme Court, when I've led a couple of rallies on
the Supreme Court steps when certain cases were being argued.
One of those was the Lorie Smith case, once again
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right here in Colorado, and that was the case where
rightfully the Supreme Court determined they cannot force someone to
create anything, or create a message, or speak against their
dearly held beliefs. I got to tell you when I
led that rally, it was one of the most frightening
things I've actually been a.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Part of because we had to have security as we were.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Being bum rushed by those who were standing up and
was predominantly for those who were pushing an ex extream
social agenda. So you know, when we come back, we're
gonna have Jennifer say join us. She has been fearless
and courageous to speak up and say biology is not bigotrat.
We're gonna learn from her how we can have that
courage and make a difference. Don't go anywhere. I'm Deborah Flora,
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sitting in for Dan Catlis
This is Dan Capless and welcome to today's online podcast
edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to
give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind,
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome to the Dan Caplis Show. I am not Dan Capless.
I know that all of you wonderful listeners are smart
enough to realize it the immediate moment that I opened
my mouth. No, I am Deborah Flora is so happy
to be sitting in this chier again. So enjoyed our
time together on Tuesday. And also I'll be here with
Ryan Schuling, our very own Ryan Shuling every Friday at
(00:36):
two pm. Looking forward to that tomorrow as well. But
want to jump right into this because we've got some
great guests coming up after the break. We're gonna have
John Prepregatory joining us. He was the former ice director
over Wyoming and Colorado, former CD six candidate. He and
I actually went down to the border with a few
others when I was with a different radio station last year,
(00:59):
and so we've had a lot of great conversations about that.
And then at five o'clock, Jennifer say is going to
be joining me. She's the former just top notch gymnast
who also started xx x Y as a clothing company
to protect women in girls' sports and safe spaces. I
do have one of those baseball caps. Love it, work
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out with it all the time. It's very fun. But
you know what, let's just jump right into the show.
And I have to preface this part of it that
pretty much everything I've done has been for two reasons.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Love of country, love of my children.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I am a mom to say the least, and when
I hear stories like this, they both come together. That's
why I've been involved in educational freedom parental rights running
for office. I'm traveling around currently doing a lot of
national policy work in the area of school choice and
parental rights.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
But when I share this story.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
With you, the mom and me comes out even more
than the policy expert. Because the behavior of this particular
witness when he was in front of the House Oversight
Committee about why he should receive an A I guess
you would say grade is very reminiscent of how I
had to deal with my own children. How to set
the stage, this clip you're about to here is Georgia
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Representative Rich McCormick. He is asking the current Postmaster General,
Lewis de Joy. I think that's a funny name, because
this clip actually brings me a lot of joy because
it's just darn funny. But here's what happened when Representative
McCormick said to the current Postmaster General, and keep us
in mind, by the way, I think we all know
(02:37):
that everything now is compared to the post Office and
the Postal Service as being the bottom level of customer
service and efficiency. But this is what Rich McCormick said
to him and Lewis de Joy's response when he was
asked to rate himself and he gave himself an A rating.
Thank you Ryan for playing that clip number five.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
You, sir, do not get.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
An A grade.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
You cannot give yourself that grade. I just think you can't.
You can't create your on paper, sir. I've been to
medical school. I bet I got my MBA.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
You can't.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
You were greater by the United States people and they
don't use your service anymore. You bankrupt. You bankrupt this
through your reputations. Only through your reputations, you are responsible
for the fall of the Postal Service.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
And the lack of accountability is responsible.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
So it's kind I'm trying to fix.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I am trying to fix.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
On your service.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
With all my watch the same stuff, with all the AI,
with all the computer systems, you're worse than if I
took yourself and picked up the mail and delivered it
two miles down the road. That's you.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
I hope you got that on camera.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
This is the response that the postmaster just gave Congress
when he doesn't like what he hears, literally covered his
ears and gave himself the grade of A And with that, sir,
I rest good.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I'm not sure which part of that to address first. Now,
I do wish you could see this. If you haven't
seen it, make sure you go and you actually watch
the visual the visual of this interchange. So, first of all,
this is the person that is over our entire postal service.
And first of all, let's just set the stage. Since
Lewis de Joy took over as a Postmaster General in
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twenty twenty. First of all, there was a lot of
controversy about it because he actually came from the private
sector where he ran a competitor to the Postal Service,
so there was a.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Conflict of interest.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Some people thought he was the first person to take
that role since nineteen ninety two without any previous experience
in the USPS.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
And what did he do.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
He continued to decline the USPS volume of service, slowed down,
the turnaround he limited over time. He banned additional trips
to deliver mail that is not exactly great customer service.
He decommissioned hundreds of high speed mail sorting machines.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Have no idea why he would do that.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
And it actually increased a concern about mail and ballots
getting to where they needed to be in time. Now,
what is interesting about this is not only if you
hear his responses when being called on the carpet. First
of all, I love the comment you do not get
to grade yourself. That was the teacher comment to the
students sitting there deflecting.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Then the current Postmaster General said, I just did That
was his response. That's not true.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
That was another response, you blamed someone else in this case,
namely Congress. Then he said some derogatory thing like you're
talking to yourself.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I'm not kidding you.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I think every mother has heard those kind of deflections.
And then when he simply put his hands over his ears,
The visual.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Is absolutely studing.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I don't know whether to laugh or cry, because, to
be honest, this is someone that is in a very
high position in the government. And when you think about
how important our postal service is now so much of
it has gone private, to see that kind of childish
behavior is amazing. The only thing that was missing was
him putting his hands over his ears and then saying, Nana, Nana,
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I don't hear you.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
That's basically what he was doing.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I tell you, I think that you know, we need
more moms to rise up and just put a lot
of people in time out. He would have been in
time out had I been sitting in that seat. So
there you go, another episode that builds the American's confidence
and those who are appointed to government.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
We just want people that are good at what they do.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
So here's another situation that is undermining people's confidence in
the current government to say the least. And many of
us have been hearing about these dozens of mysterious drones
over New Jersey and New York.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
They're basically the two states that they're talking about.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Over three thousand reports suspiciously near by the way the
Picatinny Arsenal Military base, the Trump National Golf Club in
the area, the Verrizanto Brisno And why is this important?
It connects Brooklyn's US Army Garrison, Fort Hamilton and Staten Island,
US Coast Guard station in New York, the largest of
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its kind on the East Coast. Now, I don't know
about you, but that seems like some sites that people
would want to look at if they were wishing us ill.
Now here's the incompetence part again. While we are hearing
a lot more from New Jersey senators and representatives who
are trying to get to the bottom of this, here's
what we're hearing from the FBI. The FBI said these
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drones could range from quote sophisticated state actors and adversaries
that want to hurt us to quote just a nuisance
drone that could cause harm. But they don't know the
answer yet. How does this happen in the United States
of America? I mean, really, it is time that we
demand from our government. I think that's why there's going
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to be a changeover. Actually, they're doing their job. When
you think about it. What is government's job in a
constitutional republic? It is two things.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Protect the constitutional.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Rights of its citizens, and protect their security. That's it
failing miserably. By the way, the Pentagon gave us this
little gem. It said, definitively it is not from a
foreign actor. However, they cannot tell us what it is.
So I don't know how they can tell us it's
definitively not from a foreign entity when they can't even
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tell us what it actually is. New Jersey Congressman Jeff
Andrew has stated that confidential sources that have talked to
him have talked about an Iran mothership that while the
Pentagon is denying that it is actually off of our mainland,
all that is being said it is no longer in
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its own port. I don't know about you, but if
you're having flashes of all kinds of disaster, movies of
a mother ship and three thousand sightings of drones, well
you are not alone. I'm going to head to the
break early because when we come back, we're going to
have John Fabrigatory joining me. He is the former director
of ICE covering Colorado as well as Yoming. We're going
(09:22):
to talk about safety and security because he also served
in the Air Force in a security role as well.
So when we come back, we're going to find out
how much confidence that John has perhaps in those statements
of it's not this, but we have no idea what
it is. Time to get better from our government. Don't
go anywhere when we come back of John Fabricatory. This
is Deborah Flora sitting in for Dan Caplis.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Welcome back to the Dan Caplis Show. I am Deborah
Flora sitting in for Dan Caplis, and we have been
talking about things that make you go pause and lose
a little bit of confidence in our current safety and security.
And I cannot think of anyone I would rather have
joined me to talk about these topics than a good friend,
John Fabricatory.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Many of you may know him.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
He is a retired field office director for the Denver
Office of Ice. He oversaw areas including Colorado and Wyoming,
covering nearly two hundred thousand square miles and more than
two hundred federal employees. I did feel safer when he
was in that position, to say the least. He was
also the Republican nominee for Congressional District six against Jason Crowe.
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You know, John, thank you so much for joining me
and thank you for always being willing to serve our country.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I so appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
Thank you for having me on. It's just been a
little while since you and I have been together.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah, we had a lot of experience with that when
we were down at the border in El Paso in
twenty twenty three and many times since then. But it's
good to do this again, and once again, thank you
for running. I just want to say that anyone who
gets into the arena deserves a great, great pat on
the back of appreciation. You ran a great race, but
I appreciate that you're still on the job, and I
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want to just jump right into it. There has been
a lot going on, obviously about our border, and when
you look at the fact that you know, we've got
the Denver mayor, Mike Johnston, who has he's stepped back
from this, but he actually said that he would use
Denver police to stand up against any deportation efforts. What
would you say, as someone who has served both in
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the military and the Air Force, who has served with ICE,
what would you say about a comment like that.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
It was very unnecessary and it really it shouldn't have
been said. You know, I had the opportunity to work
with Denver Pead hundreds of times over the years. You know,
when I first came to Denver in the late nineties,
there were some great men and women that I got
to work with, great detectives, great great keep guys and
girls on the street that you know, we were able
to solve a lot of crimes, arrest a lot of people,
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especially drug traffickers and the X crimes, and a lot
of different things. And it's working together that keeps the
community safe. And you know, Mike Johnson saying stuff like
that is it's just not good for Colorado and really
should not have been said.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
No, it has been.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Instead, we've been dealing with the situation and you and
I've talked about this many times over the last couple
of years that since twenty nineteen we're basically a sanctuary
state where there's already prohibition between this coordination between federal
law enforcement, state and local law enforcement. Let alone throwing
this into the mix. I want to jump into the
changes that are coming. You know, when we were down
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there the border together, you introduced us to so many
great people. We heard that you know, a huge portion
of who were coming over from what people call the
Stans Afghanistan to Jikistan, Uzbekistan, et cetera, Russia and China.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
What do you think.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
About Tom homan As being named by Donald Trump to
be the incoming new borders are obviously he has a
long history as a former ICE director. What do you
think the changes are going to be and what do
you think about that selection?
Speaker 6 (13:03):
Tom is absolutely awesome. I have the opportunity to work
from many times. You know, with ICE is a cops cop.
He says exactly what he means, which is awesome when
you're working for somebody and you know the changes that
he is going to make really aren't changes you am
forcing the law. He's just going to take the laws
that we have and say, hey, guys and girls, go
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out there and actually enforce this. Yes, it's what Trump
tried to do in the first administration, but the left
just you know, they just rallied against them and they
sued him hundreds of times. You know, But this time around,
I think prisident Trump is way more prepared for it
this time and he's not going to allow that to happen.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Deborah Flora sitting in for Dan Campus. My guest is
John fabrigatory.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
John.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
You know, I was talking in the opening of the
show about these drones three thousand sightings, Pentagon can't say
what they are, what they're not, all of these sorts
of things. I love that Tom Homan coming in is
the new board. That means that it's not just a
southern border, it's a northern border. He's also going to
oversee maritime and aviation security. How refreshing is that after
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a Chinese balloon just traped its way across our missile sites.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
What do you think you served in.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
The Air Force as a security police and security forces member.
Tell me your thoughts about this whole drone siding and
the lack of intel that is out there seems to
be out there about what's really going.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
On, And that is the key point, the last part
that you just said, the lack of that's what really
worries me. So, you know, the last few days, I've
been on the phone with a lot of buddies who
either just recently retired from the military or are still
in and they are even like, we don't know what
this is.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Wow, And the fact that.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
We don't shows how far behind we are with our
security methods as technology advances. Now, some of these drones
that they're spotting seem to be pretty advanced drones. It
does seem like they're your backyard type drones that you know,
just your basic persons flying out there. So it kind
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of worries me that our security apertures not to the
point where we can detect this. We know what's flying
up there, and we know how to keep our community
safe for the potential damage that these drones can bring
in because remember Dubbra, these drones could be packed with explosives, right,
things like that. I mean, we've seen it over in
Ukraine how drones are being used in warfare right now,
(15:32):
and you know, it's something that we should be highly
concerned about. And it worries me that there's really no
effort or or even intel coming in to let the
American people know that we're safe from this.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Absolutely, I mean it feels like we're going backwards. I mean,
you think about under the Reagan administration, we helped Israel
build their iron dome technology, and we can't even figure
out what some drones are. Unfortunately, we have a break
coming up, a heartbreak at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
But I want to ask you this.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
There's a lot of historyonics about what deportation will look like,
people saying, oh, I'll stand in front of the takes
like Tianneman Square, and you know, federal law enforcement will
be firing into civilians, which is so irresponsible to say, Yeah,
tell us what you think in the last couple of
minutes here, what is this actually going to be looking like.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
Initially, it's going to be going after criminal aliens. That's
where they're going to go after people who are you know,
on the radar of law enforcement who are currently in
many of the jails that we have right now. So
that's going to be the initial drive. And then secondary
to that are going to be people who have already
seen an immigration judge and are refusing to leave the
United States. So not only did they break into this
country illegally, they had the opportunity to see a judge,
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and they're still refusing to follow our immigration laws. Those
are who are going to go after initially, and you know,
people saying that they're going to do this and that
it's just immature and it's not going to happen.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Yeah, no, it seems very irresponsible.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
You know.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
One of the last things I want to say is
you know, thank you again for your service, John, and
I hope that we see you a lot.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
More helping in this area.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
You know, why don't you just give a last view
for folks of what we heard of who's actually coming
over the border, so we can just always position this
to our neighbors.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
Yeah, we know we need to be concerned because it's
people from all over the world that are coming across
that border. And you know, the intel that we have
is we're seeing, you know, people from China, people like
you said, from the stands, there are criminal aliens coming
across the border. Gang members. That's who was allowed in
these last four years. That's who Tom Holman is going
to focus in on, and that's how we're going to
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make America safer.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I so appreciate Thank you so much, John, and I
think everybody's before that that's not even partisan, but at
least there's going to be a real borders are. It
kind of makes me laugh that Kamala Harris was the
last borders are and we just saw what.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Happened when she was when she was in that position.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Thank you, John, I appreciate your joining the show and
thanks for your continued service.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
To Colorades into our country.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
Happy Holidays, Deborah.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
You too, Merry Christmas to you. Well, don't go anywhere.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
When we come back where you continue this conversation about
how do we secure our country.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
We'll be right back on.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Deborah Flora sitting in for Dan Caplis.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
You're listening to the Dan capless Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Welcome back to the Dankaplis Show. I'm Deborah Flora sitting
in for Dan today and so enjoying the conversations we
are having. We just had John Fabricatory join us. He's
a former ice director that covered the area all of
Wyoming and Colorado, ran for CD six, served in the
Air Force, someone who knows security, and we had a
great conversation. By the way, if you've missed any of
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this or the great show that we had on Tuesday,
where a Dallas Jenkins, the creator of The Chosen and
the director of the current Christmas movie that is in theaters,
you get everywhere the best Christmas pageant ever. You can
see those where they are posted for podcasts. But wanted
to continue this conversation because John shared and confirmed what
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I thought was the biggest and most concerning thing about
this headline going on the drones. Nearly three thousand have
been cited, or three thousand sightings of them, shall we
say over New Jersey and New York. Now, let's we
think that that's just an odd place to have them.
Let's remember that they are suspiciously near according to sources
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Picatinny Arsenal Military Base and Arsenal Military Base, Trump National
Golf Club in the area. We know there's already been
threats against the President elect and former present ccident against him.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
The Verrizono Bridge. Now, why is that important?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Because in New York it connects Brooklyn's US Army Garrison,
Fort Hamilton and Staten Island's US Coast Guard station in
New York.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Now here's the problem.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
We're being told all these things that these drones are not,
but we're not being told anything that they are. Case
in point, here is a clip from John Kirby. He's
a White House National Security Communications advisor, and let's hear
that clip, clip number twenty four, that said, we.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
Certainly take seriously the threat that can be posed by
unmanned aircraft systems, which is why law enforcement and other
agencies continue to support New Jersey and investigate the reports.
Even though they have uncovered no malicious activity or intent
at this particular stage. While there's no known malicious activity occurring,
the reported sightings there do, however, highlight a gap in authority,
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and so we urge Congress to pass important legislation that
will extend and expand existing counter joone authorities so that
we are better prepared to identify and mitigate any potential
threats to airports or other critical infrastructure, and so that
state and local authorities are provided all the tools that
they need to respond to such threats as well.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Well, there you go.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
To me, that sounds like some good old fashioned passing
of the buck, because let's just hear who he said
should be a responsible for this local law enforcement, as though,
by the way, our wonderful lawforcement, our police officers and
others do not already have their hands full in states
where there has not been a lot of support for them.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Then the next one was Congress, and.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
He did say, oh, we do take it very seriously,
but the reality is this, really the American people have
no confidence because this is the same exact administration. Let's
recall this, shall we two years ago Chinese balloon the
size of three school buses let's just refresh your memory.
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It was the size of three school buses, hovered about
sixty thousand feet in the air, drifting across the continental US.
From reports, it started in Alaska, went all the way
across down through Montana, and they didn't even bother to
shoot it down until it was off of our coast. Now,
that happened for seven days, passing over sensitive security areas
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including Maelstrom Air Force Base and Great Falls, Montana, which
was a home to stockpiles of missile and nuclear defense infrastructure.
What happened at the time that this was, you know,
was going on the.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Same Biden White House.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
And this is where I have to give Kirby the
Bless your Heart Award of the Day, because bless your
heart that you have to keep covering for this kind
of ineptitude of security in this current administration. But at
that time Biden claimed it was quote not a major
security breach. What did we find out after it was
shot down? It was communicating with China through an American
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Internet provider equipped with thousands of pounds of equipment, including
a massive surveillance payload. Well, yes, that did not turn
out to be nothing to worry about. So as we're
hearing this right now, they can't tell us what it is.
And John Fabricatory confirmed my suspicion that that's probably the
biggest issue right now. And now they're saying that this
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is really nothing to worry about. You know, it's time
that we absolutely demand greater accountability and protection from our government.
I keep returning to this, what is the role of government.
It is not to dictate every part of our lives
or our constitutional representative republic is to protect our individual
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liberties and our safety and security. Let's say that under
this administration that has been an abject failure. I was
very encouraged by the way John Fabrigatory also shared he
knows Tom Homan, who is going to be the incoming
borders are. Let's remember by the way he takes that
mantle from Kamala Harris, which.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Is unfortunately a low bar. He will far surpass that.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
And I love the fact that he will actually be
over not just the southern border, not just the northern border,
but also maritime and aviation security. I have a feeling
that starting January twentieth, there'll be a lot more information
and a lot more action about anything that just happens
to be floating over our sovereign nation.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
I certainly hope so.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Okay, switching gears by the way, speaking of borders ours Tuesday,
I was sharing that the Time magazine was about to
announce their person of the year. We went through on
Tuesday who they were looking at. One of them was
Kamala Harris, the outgoing borders are who did not even
go down to the border for years, and in fact
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actually went to Guatemala first.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
And I want to tell you.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
One of the biggest, oh biggest things that.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Irked me when we were down there.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
I remember talking to a border agent and these are
stoic guys that deal with constant threats. They're dealing with
the people they call the stands Afghanistan to Jikistan, Whuzbekistan, Russia, China,
Venezuelan gangs coming over. So to see this man break
down in tears, and why did he under Kamala Harris
as the quote unquote borders are. They so rushed through
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the processing because they did not want there to be
any children down there where it could be a bad
photo op where it could look like maybe they were
holding children, you know, the way that they falsely accused
the Trump administration of having children in cages. That's not
what it was. I saw those places firsthand, their chain
link fences just separating areas, but nobody was chained up
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or put in, you know, some kind of a cage.
But what happened under the Biden administration, under Kamala Harris, well,
according to this border security agent, and it is the
reason why quietly Susan Rice retired because a report was
going to come out that tens of thousands of children
are now lost somewhere in America.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
And this border patrol agent told me that they were.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
So rushed by the Trump administration to process people that
they actually would just hand these children off to whoever
would show off show up to take them, no verification
process at all. So I'm happy to announce that that
very same former borders are Kamala Harris was not chosen
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as the Time magazine Person of the Year because, as
we talked about, her claims to fame would have been
having a one hundred and seven day presidential campaign where
she did not receive a single vote to be the
Democrat nominee, having run a one point five billion dollar
spending account just in those one hundred and seven days
and still being twenty million dollars in debt. Nope, they
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did not choose her. Well, you may have already seen.
The other people they were considering was Joe Rogan, Kate Middleton,
who certainly our prayers go out to Kate Middleton, but
would not have been my choice. Elon Musk would have
been one of my choices. Benjamin Nett and Yahoo, Claudius Scheinbaum,
the first woman president of Mexico, Donald Trump, and Mark Zuckerberg,
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and the person they named is actually Donald Trump. Nice
to see when they do something the right way. But
one of the first leaks of the magazine cover had
this state man underneath it, President of the Divided States
of America. You know what, It's time for the mainstream
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media to pull back because they are part of what
is dividing us. When you see CNN, MSNBC and by
the way, the N in both of those stands for nonsense.
When you have pundits on those shows saying that we're
going to see American US military or federal officials shooting
into crowds of civilians, saying that you should cut off
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your relatives if they voted for Donald Trump. We know
where the division comes from, and I believe that we
may have an opportunity now to begin to be the United.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
States of America once again. Well, don't go anywhere. We're
heading to a break.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I am Deborah Flora sitting in for Dan Cappas and Hey,
by the way, here's your question five seven seven three
nine text into the show.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Who do you think are behind the mystery drones? Don't
go anywhere. I'm Deborah Flora sitting in for Dan Caplis.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
And now back to the Dankapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Welcome back to the Dan Caplis Show. I'm Deborah Flora
sitting in for Dan Kaplas. Love that song, Stand in
the place where you live, Stand in the place where
you work.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
That is a perfect setup for the.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Guests we're going to have at the top of the
hour after the break. That is going to be Jennifer Say,
who is someone who has stood up against so many
injustices in our society, and she definitely has a message
to encourage each and every one of us to do that.
In fact, Jennifer and I recently stood together in August.
I was one of the co hosts. I guess kind
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of co organizers of the first ever March for Kids
in Washington, d C. We had people like Tulca Gabbard,
Glenn Beck, Jennifer Say, and others were we stood together
to really basically advocate for this radical idea, which is
parents have the right to be the ultimate authority in
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their children's upbringing.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Yep, I know crazy.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
You would think it's crazy from all the things that
are happening in our culture right now. I've often said
that if our founding fathers ever thought that they would
get to the place where that is even being questioned
in the slightest they would have put parental rights in
the Bill of Rights. But it was unthinkable to them
that that would happen. In fact, when you look over
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the history of Western civilization, the family is the building block.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
It is the building block.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Of our civilization, which is perhaps why it is being
so attacked right now. It's an area that I've been
involved with a lot. My husband and I have a
media company. We made the documentary called Whose Children Are They?
And the reason why we did that is to show
every single area where this is being undermined. Now, what
does this have to do with Jennifer She is standing
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up against some of the craziness that is going on
and protecting girls and women's sports and safe spaces. How
does this intertwine with all that, Well, let's just say this.
For instance, in my home school district where I went,
Sherry Creed School District, there is evidence that they have
been socially transitioning children without their parents' knowledge or consent.
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When you have these situations going on where Title nine
is being undermined, that is another part of this radical movement.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
You know, let's just talk a little bit about what's
going on. As we all know.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
A little over a week ago, the US Supreme Court
heard the Tennessee case United States Versus Scrimmetti. Now, what
is this In Tennessee, there's a law prohibiting transgender medical
procedures for miners. And what's interesting about it, it's just
one of twenty five US states, Tennessee is that has
banned gender transitions for transgender miners.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
More than fifteen have enacted.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Shield laws that protect against such procedures.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Well, here's what's interesting.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Many people think, oh, you know, there's a puritanical nature
of America. Let's just put this a little bit in context,
shall we. The United Kingdom socialist country that has led
the way on some of these medical procedures, just voted
to detect miners from puberty blockers and it will not
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allow them for children under the age of eighteen with
gender dysphoria. Now, their gender dysporia is a real thing,
and any child that has it deserves support, deserves to
have a lot of help through that process, but not
necessarily irreversible medical procedures.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Well, the UK just voted against it. And why did
they do that.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Here is what they said, following official advice from medical experts.
And let's be clear, because the UK is a nationalized
socialist medicine situation, they have incredible records on this, and
they are reversing course because here's what they said. Quote,
there's currently an unacceptable safety risk and the continued prescription
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of puberty blockers to children. Now, let's contrast this, shall
we with our own Supreme Court. Now, first of all,
Katanji Brown Jackson should recuse herself from this case because
when she was confirmed, she literally said she is not
able to define what a woman is because she's not
a biologist. Well, if you can't define a woman because
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she's not a biologist, she should not be weighing in
on the veracity of using this irreversible medical procedures frequently
irreversible on children. And then let's let's also contrast that
with sodomayor who compared compared this procedure, these chemicals that
are given surgeries, et cetera, to aspirin, saying that there
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is always a risk with any medical procedure. Well, last
thing I heard, aspirin is not irreversible. In fact, that's
why you need to take a couple every so often
if you have a headache.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
But let's also remember, by the way, we are more
radical than Europe in many fronts, even when it comes
to abortion. Let's say, wherever you are on that issue,
let's just put this in context. By the way, most
European countries have waiting periods before an abortion, and it
is in most of them not legal after the first trimester.
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Here in Colorado up to the moment of birth for
any reason at all time, to bring some common sense
back to our state and back to our country. And
speaking of a last lack of common sense and the
Supreme Court, when I've led a couple of rallies on
the Supreme Court steps when certain cases were being argued.
One of those was the Lorie Smith case, once again
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right here in Colorado, and that was the case where
rightfully the Supreme Court determined they cannot force someone to
create anything, or create a message, or speak against their
dearly held beliefs. I got to tell you when I
led that rally, it was one of the most frightening
things I've actually been a.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Part of because we had to have security as we were.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Being bum rushed by those who were standing up and
was predominantly for those who were pushing an ex extream
social agenda. So you know, when we come back, we're
gonna have Jennifer say join us. She has been fearless
and courageous to speak up and say biology is not bigotrat.
We're gonna learn from her how we can have that
courage and make a difference. Don't go anywhere. I'm Deborah Flora,
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sitting in for Dan Catlis
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