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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh, another glorious day to fight for the American way.
It does feel like a Monday, doesn't it? And then
you realize it's Tuesday and smile gets a little bigger.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Glad you're here.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
You've got to ask about Denver Mayor Mike Johnston, right?
And we brought this up before and not as a pejorative.
I mean, I think it's a legitimate question when you
are living in a state with legal marijuana. And in particular,
when you have somebody on the left who advocates for that,
and then they say things that are just bizarre and
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preposterous and like loony. And they're otherwise intelligent people with
bad ideas and policies, but otherwise intelligent people. So I
think that's a fair question to raise at times like this.
And what is the time like this? Listen to how
Mayor Mike Johnston of Denver, some would say, praises fentanyl
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as as. as just a great drug for the homeless. Now,
I don't interpret it as praise. I think there are
other motivations behind this provably false statement. But in any case,
he's talking about how great fentanyl is for homeless people.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Doctors who will say, if I were to design a
perfect drug to help you survive homelessness, you need something
that helps you stay up all night and be alert
in case you're going to get jumped. It helps you
be immune to cold and helps you go long stretches
without eating. That is essentially what fentanyl does. It is
a homelessness survival drug.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Wait a second. There is so much wrong with that.
But let's start with the fact he has the medicine backwards.
Have you ever had a medical procedure where they give
you fentanyl? I have. I've had several. And they don't
give it to me so I stay awake while they
cut into me. They give it to me so I
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go to sleep while they cut into me, which I
very much appreciate, I have to say. I mean, I
consider myself a tough guy, but I'm not Dave Logan.
Do you know that story, right, Shannon? Dave does not
get anesthesia with his colonoscopies because he just doesn't like
the effect of anesthesia. I didn't meet you.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Because I had to go do a Coach Boyle interview after,
so I got to see my insides on camera.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Okay, well, that's awesome. All I'm saying is, first, how
can the mayor of Denver ever step up and say
anything positive against fentanyl? Fentanyl is a mass murderer. Fentanyl
is a chemical weapons attack on America by China and
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by the cartels. But it's a chemical weapons attack on America.
There are so many. And is this what's going on
with Johnston? He's trying to somehow justify or mitigate or
discount fentanyl. his own failures and the failures of the
Democratic Party to protect the people of Colorado from fentanyl.
In fact, they've made it far worse with their policies.
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Is that what he's trying to do? Just kind of
minimize the horror of fentanyl? But, A, how do you
get a mayor of Denver saying anything that can even
be remotely interpreted as positive about a mass murder and
a scourge on our community from top to bottom? And, B,
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How does he get the medicine wrong? Yeah, fentanyl is
used to put people to sleep. Unfortunately, lots of people
permanently when it's used outside of medical context. So what
do you think is going on there? I want to
get your take on that. 303-713-8255, D-A-N-57739. Then we have
every Democrat's favorite socialist, I guess, here in Colorado, Malat Kiros.
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And I won't get into the big ongoing question with
Milat Kiros, which is, wait a second, why is she
being protected by the political media? And I look primarily
at Cal Clark, who's the single largest voice in the
political media and clearly, in my constitutionally protected opinion, deeply
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entrenched in these Democratic Party causes, gives Kiros just an
ongoing pass. When she is out there, she had Hassan
Piker campaign for her repeatedly. She campaigned with Hassan Piker.
She campaigned with Hassan Piker here in Denver. And Hassan
Piker takes all of these extraordinarily violent, ugly, obscene, anti-American,
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anti-Jew positions. But she gets a pass on that. The
guy running for Senate in Michigan... It's a big national
story every single day. His his ties to Hassan Piker,
which I'm not sure are as deep as her ties
to Hassan Piker. So why does she get that pass?
But in any case, here we go. She's speaking to
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a group of these kids who walked out of school
Friday ostensibly to protest ICE. But I think we got
the pretty clear impression, at least from this group that
gathered in Denver. It was it was probably more to
just protest the very existence of America. But some have
said Milat Kiros here was inciting violence. And maybe she was,
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maybe she wasn't. But it's certainly not prosecutable. That's my point,
is what you're about to hear, I think any intelligent person,
and she is, speaking to that crowd of kids would
know that the words you're about to hear her say
might very well cause some unhinged kid to go off
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and commit acts of violence. Because what she's saying is
that ICE is kidnapping our neighbors and putting them in
concentration camps. So any intelligent person in her position is
going to go, you know, somebody out there who's unhinged
might very well go commit violence against ICE to protect
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neighbors from being put in concentration camps. Of course, she
knows she's lying when she says that, but that's the
whole point of These kids being young and impressionable and
somebody in the crowd being unhinged. So I think it
was a very dangerous statement to make, and she, I
would guess, had to know that, right? And it could
cause somebody, particularly somebody unhinged, to go off and commit violence,
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but it is not prosecutable, and I'll explain why.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Single person that is here right now thank you I
know a lot of you were faced with the threat
of suspension expulsion getting harassed online and still you chose
to show up today and stand up for your immigrant
neighbors that are being terrorized by this fascist administration and
this rogue agency that's kidnapping our neighbors and throwing them
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into concentration.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Camps I mean you have to laugh right You have
to laugh. It is such a lie. It's such a
lie that she has to know creates danger, but it's
not prosecutable. Because when you're talking about political speech, the
only thing that's going to be prosecutable is if there's
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a call to violence. So knowingly saying something that you
know might make somebody so mad, they'll go out and
commit violence in the name of their political cause. That's
not going to be prosecutable. There would have to be
an actual call to go commit acts of violence, but
highly irresponsible. And, you know, I'm not even going to
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take your time with profoundly dishonest because that's just assumed.
When you're talking about the left, that is, if not
page one, it's page two of their playbook. I mean,
they just systematically, intentionally, deliberately lie because they can't win
on the truth. And there's also, and especially with these
socialist types, but certainly the left in general, There is
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this meanness. There is this, in my constitutionally protected opinion,
that there is this percolating kind of violent edge that
you often see with the left. Look at it in
Chuck Schumer, standing on the steps of the U.S. Supreme Court,
calling justices out by name, saying they won't know what
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hit them if they find a certain way in a case.
And then, of course, somebody goes and tries to kill
Justice Kavanaugh and his family. You could see that one
coming a mile away. So whether it's Chuck Schumer or
Milat Kiros and these socialists, I think they can look
historically at socialism and where it leads in terms of violence.
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And again, she wasn't openly advocating violence, but she was
speaking words that any reasonable person would have to know
might cause some kid to go off and commit acts
of violence to save our neighbors from being kidnapped off
the street and sent to concentration camps, which Milat Kiros didn't.
was lying to them about. 303-713-8255. So I guess we
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could start with who wore it worst? Which is worse?
Is it the mayor of Denver coming out and saying
these positive things about fentanyl, at least in the context
of street people, and getting the medicine exactly backwards? Because
that's incredibly dangerous. Or was Mollat Keros more dangerous? You're
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on the Dan Kaplan Show.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Doctors who will say, if I were to design a
perfect drug to help you survive homelessness, you need something
that helps you stay up all night and be alert
in case you're going to get jumped, that helps you
be immune to cold and helps you go long stretches
without eating. That is essentially what fentanyl does. It is
a homelessness survival drug.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Wow. Where did he get that from? Is he mixing
it up with meth or something? Listen, meth is death, right?
So there is nothing positive under the sun about meth.
And that's part of the point here. What is the
Denver mayor? And obviously, Denver has been under attack, chemical
attack from these drugs, all of them, including, and tip
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of the spear, fentanyl, meth, et cetera, under attack. And
the attack is much, much worse because of lefty policies,
starting with legalization of marijuana. And we can get into
the history of that. But then downplaying meth, which he does, well,
downplaying fentanyl, which he does once again here. And then
to get it backwards, do you think he And it
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had meth in his head? I don't mean like literally ingested.
I mean, do you think he was remembering some bogus
article written by some wax somewhere that talked about meth
being a quote-unquote miracle drug for homeless, which it is not?
Because fentanyl does the opposite. Fentanyl puts you to sleep.
That's why you get it in medical procedures, and it
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puts way too many people to sleep forever. So what
do you think he's doing there? And why do you
think he's doing it? I think that's very important to
get into as well. And then we've got Malak Kiros Friday,
you know, after, you know, a bunch of kids. And
I think, by the way, the number of kids walking
out around the state, I'm assuming, is much less than
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had been hyped up by the organizers, or I think
we would have seen more media coverage of it. I
had a hard time finding any video, even on social,
of many kids walking out of many schools across the
state to protest ICE. But In downtown Denver, you got some. Now,
how big a crowd? Again, I have to assume not
that big because we didn't see the usual aerials from drones, etc.
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And normally, if there's a big crowd for the left,
they hype it up in the media. But there were
enough to show you, you know, what this is really
all about for the left, you know, who are acting
literally like wild animals. Not all of them out there,
but some of them. You know, just this... You know,
I'll play some of the sound for you. It just
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kind of howling as they attacked people out there. And
of course, you know, people out there who were not
supporting them. And so that brings us back to Milat Kiros.
And I think the words that she spoke, and I'll
play them again. She had to know, right? She's a
smart person. Wouldn't she have to know that these words
might prompt some of those kids to violence? Now, they're
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not prosecutable, not even remotely so, because there's no call
to violence. But when you hear her lie to these
kids and tell them that ICE is kidnapping their neighbors
off the street and putting them in concentration camps, could
she fail to realize that that might cause some kids
to then go commit acts of violence? Now, I don't
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know if that's what caused those kids out there that
afternoon to commit acts of violence, but she'd have to
know those were very dangerous statements to make.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
To every single person that is here right now, thank you.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
I know a lot of.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You were faced with the threat of suspension, expulsion, getting
harassed online.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Well, let's start with that. I mean, this just goes
back to how they lie reflexively. Is there any evidence
of anyone being threatened with expulsion if they walked out
to protest? Is there any evidence of that anywhere? And
where were the threats online? You know, the violence almost
always comes from the left.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Still, you chose to show up today and stand up
for your immigrant neighbors that are being terrorized by this
fascist administration and this rogue agency that's kidnapping our neighbors
and throwing them into concentration camps.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
She had to know, right? Is it even possible that
she failed to realize that telling these kids that the
government was kidnapping their neighbors and throwing them into concentration camps?
Could she have possibly failed to realize that might cause violence? 303-713-8255, DAN-57739.
So we're going to take some texts on this and
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calls during the day today. Let's see. Dan, who's going
to be the first to sink a tanker with all
that Enviro liability? I assume that's a reference to President
Trump's approach in Iran right now, which I think is
a very wise one. If they shoot at our Navy,
then he sinks a tanker. If they hit a tanker,
say a private tanker, then he destroys one of theirs.
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And with Iran's economy totally dependent on, well, almost totally
dependent on oil exports, you would think in any kind
of rational setting that would be quite a deterrent. But
then again, We know when you're talking about the kind
of evil at the top of Iran that that ration
and reason probably go out the window. Dan, apparently you
missed the real story on the Friday Freak Show. There
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was violence and people went to the hospital. No, in fact,
we're trying to get some of those people on the show.
And that the video that I saw. Yeah, very disturbing. Right.
And very disturbing because no innocent person should ever get attacked.
And and. be just the mentality of the mob, the howling,
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you know, as they chase down, you know, people out
there who did not agree with them. It's that mentality. And, hey,
I've been subjected to it. I was put in the
hospital by it back when I was, you know, up
at CU in student government. So I've seen that mob
in action. You know, it didn't deter me. I came back,
got out of the hospital, and ran for student body
president and won. But it is something to experience. that
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whole mob mentality. And literally, it becomes animalistic, you know,
with the howling and the pack kind of roaming together
and hunting down people who disagree with them. I mean,
I remember laying on the floor of the UMC ballroom
on the Boulder campus, you know, as there was a
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guy screaming, kill Kaplis, kill Kaplis, as some people were
doing their best. And, of course, the idiot didn't realize
the tape machine was still on because it was a
student government meeting where a bill of mine was passed
that the mob didn't like. And they didn't realize that
the meeting was still recording. So the grand jury got
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to hear that tape and found it to be compelling evidence,
as did the trial jury. So, yeah, I guess the
mob learned something that day. Be sure to turn off
the tape recorders. Yeah. But they had earlier, it's interesting, Shannon,
earlier in that meeting, they had actually thrown out the
media that was at the meeting in the UMC ballroom.
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There was a lot of media attention because the mob
had been promising violence leading up to the meeting if
the student senate called the executive council, approved the bill
that I was proposing. And so there was a lot
of media because, you know, the media wanted to see
if there was violence. But they threw the media out
before the violence, except for one reporter they allowed to stay.
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And that long ago, was he wearing a fedora? Oh, man.
That was a different era, man. But who knows? Maybe
it's not that different. I hope it's a lot different
at CU, and I suspect that it is. But, yeah,
that was 70s. Yeah, that was 70s, and there had
been some carryover violence into the 70s from some of
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the radical groups in Boulder. But for me, when I
watch that video of what happened Friday in Denver— as
the anti-ICE, you know, teen mobs went after, you know,
people who disagreed with them. Yeah, just such a dangerous
situation and such a dangerous mentality. You know, we saw
something but with older perpetrators against the, leveled against the
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Back the Blue group a few years ago, you know,
when they gathered in Civic Center Park, and then we
saw the Antifa types descend on them. You know, the
same mob-type howling, literal howling mob-type mentality. But that is,
that's what the left's always been about, right? Because in
the end, they just can't win on the truth. And
I know that sounds cliche, but it's, as a practical matter, true. So, 303-713-8255, D-A-N-5-7-7-3-9.
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We have a lot we want to do this afternoon,
but I'm going to continue this overarch of who were
at worst? Mayor Johnston? talking in a weird sort of way, positively,
about fentanyl and then getting the medical piece of it backwards?
Or Malat Kiro saying things that any reasonable person had
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to know might provoke violence? You're on The Dan Kaplan Show.
Lindsey Clancy's defense attorney. What's next for Lindsey?
Speaker 4 (19:09):
I'd like to say that perhaps Donald Trump, who felt
compelled to speak out about this case, may very well, Mr. President,
I would hope that you would consider this young lady,
the type of person she is, what she's been through,
and consider a pardon.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Thanks for coming in this morning.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
My pleasure. We'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Oh, my goodness, this guy. Listen, I understand he, you know,
is an experienced, skilled defense attorney who did some good
things during trial. But is it that the cameras? that
intoxicated him. He just went nuts. And going out there
and attacking that jury individually, single juror, individually, publicly, afterward,
I hope. the Supreme Court back there takes a look
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at that. Not that I want to see him punished,
but a message has to be sent. You cannot do
this to jurors. And as I said on Friday, what
I think he was doing was trying to intimidate the
next jury. Or intimidate the prosecutor out of refiling charges because, hey,
you won't be able to get any jurors. I just
publicly said anybody who won't acquit her is a bigot. Yeah,
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just awful stuff there. Awful stuff. And then he's got
to be kind of out of his mind right now.
You know, maybe, again, just intoxicated by the spotlight to
go on national TV and call on the president to
issue a pardon. It's a state charge. He's got to
know that. You cannot pardon a state charge. This isn't
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a federal prosecution. Yeah. Wow. 303-713-8255, DAN 57739. Glad you're here.
I want to get to some more text and calls
on this. And we're talking about two things locally. One
is this oh-so-dangerous move by Mayor Johnston to come out
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and actually say, positive things about fentanyl when it's a
mass murder. It's a mass murder in Colorado. It's a
mass murder in our community. He's kind of praising it,
it sounds like, as a great drug for the homeless.
And he's even got the medicine backwards because fentanyl puts
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you to sleep. It doesn't make you more alert, but
I'll play the sound. But why do you think he
did it? We haven't gotten to that much. I want
to get into that with you, at least my own
belief as to why he would say something this Dangerous
and wrong and.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Preposterous doctors who will say if I were to design
a perfect drug to help you survive homelessness You need
something who helps you stay up all night and be
alert in case you're gonna get jumped That helps you
be immune to cold and helps you go long stretches
without eating that is essentially what fentanyl does it is
a homelessness survival drug.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Is he nuts a Drug to help you a miracle
drug to help you survive homelessness fentanyl kills It kills.
It puts people to sleep and they never wake up.
It's killed so many people in our society. It's killed
so many people in Colorado, killed so many people in Denver,
across the entire spectrum of the population, from homeless people
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to the children of CEOs. It kills. So what a
bizarre statement for him to make about any drug. And
by the way, do you think he Got mixed up
was he trying to talk about meth, which is an
absolute killer and scourge in and of itself. But fentanyl
puts people to sleep. That's why they give it to
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so many people at the start of surgery.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
And then, you know, was this even more dangerous? Malat Kiros,
who is about to become, unfortunately, congresswoman in CD1, an
open avowed socialist, You can't get any closer to Hassan
Piker unless you marry him, right? He campaigned for her repeatedly,
with her repeatedly. And Piker is so flamingly, flagrantly anti-American
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and anti-America and anti-Jew. And yet she gets a pass
on it from the same local media that will literally
follow a Republican around town who says or does something wrong.
And I have no problem with the media doing that.
Be as hard on the Republicans as the facts justify,
but have it be fair and balanced and go both ways.
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So here's Malakiro speaking to a bunch of young, impressionable, very,
let's call them vulnerable students who have walked out of
school to protest ICE because they must be in a
very vulnerable place to have fallen for that unless they just,
you know, at that point just wanted to get some
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time off school. But here she says words and makes
false accusations that any reasonable person would have to know
might provoke violence.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Single person that is here right now thank you i
know a lot of you were faced with the threat
of suspension expulsion getting harassed online and still you chose
to show up today and stand up for your immigrant
neighbors that are being terrorized by this fascist administration and
this rogue agency that's kidnapping our neighbors and throwing them
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into concentration.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Camps Okay, so she tells a bunch of kids who
have now walked out of school that ICE is kidnapping
your neighbors and throwing them into concentration camps. She doesn't
realize that might provoke violence now or down the road?
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
And the starting point is it's a lie, right? And
then we get into the conversation about, hey, is it
illegal speech? No, it's political speech that doesn't directly advocate violence.
It's not illegal speech. But at what point At what
point should people moderate their political speech just in the
interest of basic human decency? And listen, I'm the last
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guy in the world. I've hosted a talk show for
about 30 years. I'm the last guy in the world
who wants to infringe on First Amendment rights. That's not
the point. That the point is about being honest, honorable,
decent people. And honest, honorable, decent people don't do what
she just did. And it's just amazing to me, you've
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got this ideologically, and with that kind of speech, you know,
literal dangerousness, you know, now front and center on the
Colorado political scene, and the political media just gives her
a pass. Why is that? I mean, you look at
Hassan Piker in Michigan, and that's a big national story,
as it should be. What I mean, obviously, is the
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relationship between Hassan Piker and Abdul El-Sayed, the Michigan Democrat
Senate candidate. And it should be a big national story
because anybody who campaigns with Hassan Piker, you assume, must
know and agree with his views. Because when somebody has
views that abhorrent and that radical, then no sane person
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is going to be associated with Hassan Piker unless they
agree with those views or are willing to appear to
agree with those views, are willing to implicitly endorse those views.
So why does Malat Kiros in Denver, Colorado, get a
pass on that. Even if we had no Jewish people
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in Colorado, the rest of us, and certainly our media,
should be willing to stand up for Jewish people everywhere.
But we have a healthy, important, thriving Jewish community in Colorado.
How does Malat Kiros get a pass? She wants the
state of Israel abolished. She says it. She campaigns repeatedly
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with Hassan Piker, a flaming anti-Semite. Why does she get
a pass on all that? We played the sound on
air here. She talks about how the best solution would
be simply defund the Pentagon. So obviously she wants the
United States of America abolished as well.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Why does she get a pass? And why do you
think Mike Johnston said what he said as mayor? And
I've got to play that again because maybe he's been
fortunate enough to never have a surgical procedure. or maybe
to never even speak with a doctor, but there's a
reason they give you fentanyl at the start of surgery,
not always, but often, and it's to put you to sleep.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Doctors who will say, if I were to design a
perfect drug to help you survive homelessness, you need something
that helps you stay up all night and be alert
in case you're going to get jumped, that helps you
be immune to cold, and helps you go long stretches
without eating. That is essentially what fentanyl does. It is
a homelessness survival drug.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
He's just wrong medically. fentanyl puts you to sleep and
obviously puts a lot of people to sleep forever. But
why do you think he did this? I mean, he
has intelligence. He's an intelligent guy with a lot of
bad policies and stuff. But why do you think he
did this? Because anybody just instinctively, right, once they get
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past maybe third grade, they understand you just don't say
anything that might be interpreted as positive about a mass-killing drug.
You just don't go there. So why do you think
he did? Why do you think he's trying to talk
about fentanyl in that positive light? I've got my own
theory on that. I'll give you that when we come back,
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and then I want to get to a bunch of text,
including some that disagree with me here, which we are
always grateful for. You're on The Dan Kaplan Show.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
I just thought I'd put that one first because That's
just a tenor of the questions we get from Facebook.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Iran's doing a pretty good job. Yeah, so far. I
think the answer is no. Heart disease has always got
a shot. Yeah, I think we got that drop, didn't we? Oh,
good work, Shannon. Oh, no, no, no. Good work. We're
playing some sounds, some former Obama aides, one of whom
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seemed to be wishing for President Trump's death when– There
was a word in there that we do not allow
on air. 303-713-8255, D-A-N-5-7-7-3-9. Sorry, my friend, I didn't flag
that for you. I just somehow missed that. Well, I
should be more thorough, but look at me. No, it's
my job to find those. It looks like I'm detail-oriented, Dan. Oh,
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you have been for many, many decades, yes. I'm glad
you're with us. We're talking about who were at worst,
who's more dangerous here over the weekend. Was it Mayor
Mike Johnston, who appeared to be glorifying fentanyl while getting
the medicine backwards? Or was it Malat Kiros, who was
speaking words that any reasonable person, it seems, would know
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might incite violence and told the lie anyway. So we'll
play that sound again. And then what a great text here.
I'm going to paraphrase it because there are so many
coming in. Dan, you keep playing the sound bites and
asking why. You tell us why. Well, I will do that.
I don't mean to be presumptuous, but let me play
them one more time. Here is Mayor Johnston.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Doctors who will say, if I were to design a
perfect drug to help you survive homelessness, you need something
that helps you stay up all night and be alert
in case you're going to get jumped, that helps you
be immune to cold, and helps you go long stretches
without eating. That is essentially what fentanyl does. It is
a homelessness survival drug.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
No, it's not. It's not all of that is backwards,
but to start out by glorifying it in sync. And
then we have Milat Kiros. And by the way, there
was violence in connection, especially in Denver, with this student walkout.
I can't prove, and I don't know whether it was
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provoked in part by this lie from Kiros.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
To every single person that is here right now, thank you.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
I know a lot of.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
You were faced with the threat of suspension, expulsion, getting
harassed online, and so you chose to show up today
and stand up for your immigrant neighbors that are being
terrorized by this fascist administration and this rogue agency that's
kidnapping our neighbors and throwing them into concentration camps.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Okay, so you're going to tell us, someone about to
be elected congresswoman, you're going to tell a big group
of these kids, that the government is kidnapping your neighbors
and throwing them into concentration camps. How could you speak
words like those without realizing they might incite violence? I
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don't know whether they incited the violence that followed, but
maybe they've incited violence that's going to come in the future.
Let's hope not. But how profoundly vicious and irresponsible and
such a lie to begin with. Yeah. And, you know,
to do it to any people of any age. But,
(32:02):
you know, you've got these impressionable kids out there. Yeah,
but that's just that's just what the left does. OK,
my take on this before I get to these other
text is with Johnston. I think that Johnston at this
point knows that he and the left are responsible for
a lot of this horrific fentanyl death and destruction in Colorado.
(32:27):
And he's just trying to rationalize that, distance himself from it.
To the bizarre point, he would actually put some implicitly
positive spin. Did I say meth fentanyl? And believe it
or not, I mean, they're both mass killers, right? But yeah,
he knows. He and the left, in lots of different ways,
are responsible for a lot of this fentanyl death in Colorado.
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So he's trying to minimize it and otherwise explain it.
And then with Kiros, I think there, you know, I
hope she will come on the show someday. My own
personal belief is that, yeah, she had to know those
words were false and dangerous and might provoke violence. But
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she just didn't care because, in my belief, she didn't
care because you look at the left and violence has
been lies and violence have been a tool of the
left forever. Because they're not going to win on the
truth and logic and reason and common morality, etc. Look
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at the history of socialism. But it's only going to
get worse with her, and it already is with Johnston,
but worse with her because of the past that she's
been given by the political media. Can you imagine if
it was somebody on the right who was out there
saying things as dangerous and extreme and campaigning repeatedly with
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some bizarre figure that people attributed to the right who
was saying all of this hateful anti-American and bigoted stuff.
You know, a guy like Carl Clark would be on
that Republican every single day until that Republican left town,
as he should be, as he should be. But Kuros,
she just gets a pass. Why? Why do you think?
(34:20):
And I I'll let you know what I think. But
I do want to get to some texters. Dan, there's
no immunity to cold. Right. Fentanyl does not keep you
awake all night as a homeless person so you can
protect yourself. It puts you to sleep. And if you're lucky,
you wake up again. And a lot of people don't.
And it doesn't make you immune to cold unless, of course,
it kills you. Dan, Kuros is a demagogue. Johnston, uninformed.
(34:45):
You're giving Johnston way too much credit there, my friend. Dan,
could ICE director shout and scream? Kuros is trying to
brainwash children. Well, obviously, there are a lot of very
impressionable kids out there. Now, by the way, the numbers,
and I'd love to just hear from folks around the
state on this, my guess is that not that many
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kids walked out of school, fortunately, on Friday, or we
would have seen more media coverage on it. We would
have seen more on social media, and we didn't. So
even in Denver, where you see that the video of
these PACs, howling, literally PACs, attacking people who disagree with them.
Some people went to the hospital. I think a couple
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were admitted. You know, even there, you don't see what
appears to be large numbers. Like in the past, when
you've had large numbers walk out during George Floyd or whatever,
you'll see these big throngs. So hopefully there just wasn't
that big a turnout. But the sort of crazy violence
we saw, crazed violence we saw, against people who disagreed
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with them is, I think, indicative of what's behind all this. Dan,
although Johnston and Kiros are mistaken, Kiros' statement is more
dangerous because her statement affects the state where Johnston's statement
affects Denver. I respectfully disagree with that texter, and I
want to come back and address that. Dan, come on. Yes,
Kiros is a nutcase, but how are her words going
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to incite violence any more than the right to life
or is talking about murdering millions of babies? There's a
key and critical distinction there I'll take next.
Oh, another glorious day to fight for the American way.
It does feel like a Monday, doesn't it? And then
you realize it's Tuesday and smile gets a little bigger.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Glad you're here.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
You've got to ask about Denver Mayor Mike Johnston, right?
And we brought this up before and not as a pejorative.
I mean, I think it's a legitimate question when you
are living in a state with legal marijuana. And in particular,
when you have somebody on the left who advocates for that,
and then they say things that are just bizarre and
(00:46):
preposterous and like loony. And they're otherwise intelligent people with
bad ideas and policies, but otherwise intelligent people. So I
think that's a fair question to raise at times like this.
And what is the time like this? Listen to how
Mayor Mike Johnston of Denver, some would say, praises fentanyl
(01:10):
as as. as just a great drug for the homeless. Now,
I don't interpret it as praise. I think there are
other motivations behind this provably false statement. But in any case,
he's talking about how great fentanyl is for homeless people.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Doctors who will say, if I were to design a
perfect drug to help you survive homelessness, you need something
that helps you stay up all night and be alert
in case you're going to get jumped. It helps you
be immune to cold and helps you go long stretches
without eating. That is essentially what fentanyl does. It is
a homelessness survival drug.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Wait a second. There is so much wrong with that.
But let's start with the fact he has the medicine backwards.
Have you ever had a medical procedure where they give
you fentanyl? I have. I've had several. And they don't
give it to me so I stay awake while they
cut into me. They give it to me so I
(02:08):
go to sleep while they cut into me, which I
very much appreciate, I have to say. I mean, I
consider myself a tough guy, but I'm not Dave Logan.
Do you know that story, right, Shannon? Dave does not
get anesthesia with his colonoscopies because he just doesn't like
the effect of anesthesia. I didn't meet you.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Because I had to go do a Coach Boyle interview after,
so I got to see my insides on camera.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Okay, well, that's awesome. All I'm saying is, first, how
can the mayor of Denver ever step up and say
anything positive against fentanyl? Fentanyl is a mass murderer. Fentanyl
is a chemical weapons attack on America by China and
(02:53):
by the cartels. But it's a chemical weapons attack on America.
There are so many. And is this what's going on
with Johnston? He's trying to somehow justify or mitigate or
discount fentanyl. his own failures and the failures of the
Democratic Party to protect the people of Colorado from fentanyl.
In fact, they've made it far worse with their policies.
(03:14):
Is that what he's trying to do? Just kind of
minimize the horror of fentanyl? But, A, how do you
get a mayor of Denver saying anything that can even
be remotely interpreted as positive about a mass murder and
a scourge on our community from top to bottom? And, B,
(03:36):
How does he get the medicine wrong? Yeah, fentanyl is
used to put people to sleep. Unfortunately, lots of people
permanently when it's used outside of medical context. So what
do you think is going on there? I want to
get your take on that. 303-713-8255, D-A-N-57739. Then we have
every Democrat's favorite socialist, I guess, here in Colorado, Malat Kiros.
(04:03):
And I won't get into the big ongoing question with
Milat Kiros, which is, wait a second, why is she
being protected by the political media? And I look primarily
at Cal Clark, who's the single largest voice in the
political media and clearly, in my constitutionally protected opinion, deeply
(04:26):
entrenched in these Democratic Party causes, gives Kiros just an
ongoing pass. When she is out there, she had Hassan
Piker campaign for her repeatedly. She campaigned with Hassan Piker.
She campaigned with Hassan Piker here in Denver. And Hassan
Piker takes all of these extraordinarily violent, ugly, obscene, anti-American,
(04:53):
anti-Jew positions. But she gets a pass on that. The
guy running for Senate in Michigan... It's a big national
story every single day. His his ties to Hassan Piker,
which I'm not sure are as deep as her ties
to Hassan Piker. So why does she get that pass?
But in any case, here we go. She's speaking to
(05:14):
a group of these kids who walked out of school
Friday ostensibly to protest ICE. But I think we got
the pretty clear impression, at least from this group that
gathered in Denver. It was it was probably more to
just protest the very existence of America. But some have
said Milat Kiros here was inciting violence. And maybe she was,
(05:41):
maybe she wasn't. But it's certainly not prosecutable. That's my point,
is what you're about to hear, I think any intelligent person,
and she is, speaking to that crowd of kids would
know that the words you're about to hear her say
might very well cause some unhinged kid to go off
(06:02):
and commit acts of violence. Because what she's saying is
that ICE is kidnapping our neighbors and putting them in
concentration camps. So any intelligent person in her position is
going to go, you know, somebody out there who's unhinged
might very well go commit violence against ICE to protect
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neighbors from being put in concentration camps. Of course, she
knows she's lying when she says that, but that's the
whole point of These kids being young and impressionable and
somebody in the crowd being unhinged. So I think it
was a very dangerous statement to make, and she, I
would guess, had to know that, right? And it could
cause somebody, particularly somebody unhinged, to go off and commit violence,
(06:45):
but it is not prosecutable, and I'll explain why.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Single person that is here right now thank you I
know a lot of you were faced with the threat
of suspension expulsion getting harassed online and still you chose
to show up today and stand up for your immigrant
neighbors that are being terrorized by this fascist administration and
this rogue agency that's kidnapping our neighbors and throwing them
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into concentration.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Camps I mean you have to laugh right You have
to laugh. It is such a lie. It's such a
lie that she has to know creates danger, but it's
not prosecutable. Because when you're talking about political speech, the
only thing that's going to be prosecutable is if there's
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a call to violence. So knowingly saying something that you
know might make somebody so mad, they'll go out and
commit violence in the name of their political cause. That's
not going to be prosecutable. There would have to be
an actual call to go commit acts of violence, but
highly irresponsible. And, you know, I'm not even going to
(07:58):
take your time with profoundly dishonest because that's just assumed.
When you're talking about the left, that is, if not
page one, it's page two of their playbook. I mean,
they just systematically, intentionally, deliberately lie because they can't win
on the truth. And there's also, and especially with these
socialist types, but certainly the left in general, There is
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this meanness. There is this, in my constitutionally protected opinion,
that there is this percolating kind of violent edge that
you often see with the left. Look at it in
Chuck Schumer, standing on the steps of the U.S. Supreme Court,
calling justices out by name, saying they won't know what
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hit them if they find a certain way in a case.
And then, of course, somebody goes and tries to kill
Justice Kavanaugh and his family. You could see that one
coming a mile away. So whether it's Chuck Schumer or
Milat Kiros and these socialists, I think they can look
historically at socialism and where it leads in terms of violence.
(09:03):
And again, she wasn't openly advocating violence, but she was
speaking words that any reasonable person would have to know
might cause some kid to go off and commit acts
of violence to save our neighbors from being kidnapped off
the street and sent to concentration camps, which Milat Kiros didn't.
was lying to them about. 303-713-8255. So I guess we
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could start with who wore it worst? Which is worse?
Is it the mayor of Denver coming out and saying
these positive things about fentanyl, at least in the context
of street people, and getting the medicine exactly backwards? Because
that's incredibly dangerous. Or was Mollat Keros more dangerous? You're
(09:44):
on the Dan Kaplan Show.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Doctors who will say, if I were to design a
perfect drug to help you survive homelessness, you need something
that helps you stay up all night and be alert
in case you're going to get jumped, that helps you
be immune to cold and helps you go long stretches
without eating. That is essentially what fentanyl does. It is
a homelessness survival drug.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Wow. Where did he get that from? Is he mixing
it up with meth or something? Listen, meth is death, right?
So there is nothing positive under the sun about meth.
And that's part of the point here. What is the
Denver mayor? And obviously, Denver has been under attack, chemical
attack from these drugs, all of them, including, and tip
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of the spear, fentanyl, meth, et cetera, under attack. And
the attack is much, much worse because of lefty policies,
starting with legalization of marijuana. And we can get into
the history of that. But then downplaying meth, which he does, well,
downplaying fentanyl, which he does once again here. And then
to get it backwards, do you think he And it
(10:48):
had meth in his head? I don't mean like literally ingested.
I mean, do you think he was remembering some bogus
article written by some wax somewhere that talked about meth
being a quote-unquote miracle drug for homeless, which it is not?
Because fentanyl does the opposite. Fentanyl puts you to sleep.
That's why you get it in medical procedures, and it
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puts way too many people to sleep forever. So what
do you think he's doing there? And why do you
think he's doing it? I think that's very important to
get into as well. And then we've got Malak Kiros Friday,
you know, after, you know, a bunch of kids. And
I think, by the way, the number of kids walking
out around the state, I'm assuming, is much less than
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had been hyped up by the organizers, or I think
we would have seen more media coverage of it. I
had a hard time finding any video, even on social,
of many kids walking out of many schools across the
state to protest ICE. But In downtown Denver, you got some. Now,
how big a crowd? Again, I have to assume not
that big because we didn't see the usual aerials from drones, etc.
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And normally, if there's a big crowd for the left,
they hype it up in the media. But there were
enough to show you, you know, what this is really
all about for the left, you know, who are acting
literally like wild animals. Not all of them out there,
but some of them. You know, just this... You know,
I'll play some of the sound for you. It just
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kind of howling as they attacked people out there. And
of course, you know, people out there who were not
supporting them. And so that brings us back to Milat Kiros.
And I think the words that she spoke, and I'll
play them again. She had to know, right? She's a
smart person. Wouldn't she have to know that these words
might prompt some of those kids to violence? Now, they're
(12:37):
not prosecutable, not even remotely so, because there's no call
to violence. But when you hear her lie to these
kids and tell them that ICE is kidnapping their neighbors
off the street and putting them in concentration camps, could
she fail to realize that that might cause some kids
to then go commit acts of violence? Now, I don't
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know if that's what caused those kids out there that
afternoon to commit acts of violence, but she'd have to
know those were very dangerous statements to make.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
To every single person that is here right now, thank you.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
I know a lot of.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You were faced with the threat of suspension, expulsion, getting
harassed online.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Well, let's start with that. I mean, this just goes
back to how they lie reflexively. Is there any evidence
of anyone being threatened with expulsion if they walked out
to protest? Is there any evidence of that anywhere? And
where were the threats online? You know, the violence almost
always comes from the left.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Still, you chose to show up today and stand up
for your immigrant neighbors that are being terrorized by this
fascist administration and this rogue agency that's kidnapping our neighbors
and throwing them into concentration camps.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
She had to know, right? Is it even possible that
she failed to realize that telling these kids that the
government was kidnapping their neighbors and throwing them into concentration camps?
Could she have possibly failed to realize that might cause violence? 303-713-8255, DAN-57739.
So we're going to take some texts on this and
(14:20):
calls during the day today. Let's see. Dan, who's going
to be the first to sink a tanker with all
that Enviro liability? I assume that's a reference to President
Trump's approach in Iran right now, which I think is
a very wise one. If they shoot at our Navy,
then he sinks a tanker. If they hit a tanker,
say a private tanker, then he destroys one of theirs.
(14:44):
And with Iran's economy totally dependent on, well, almost totally
dependent on oil exports, you would think in any kind
of rational setting that would be quite a deterrent. But
then again, We know when you're talking about the kind
of evil at the top of Iran that that ration
and reason probably go out the window. Dan, apparently you
missed the real story on the Friday Freak Show. There
(15:06):
was violence and people went to the hospital. No, in fact,
we're trying to get some of those people on the show.
And that the video that I saw. Yeah, very disturbing. Right.
And very disturbing because no innocent person should ever get attacked.
And and. be just the mentality of the mob, the howling,
(15:27):
you know, as they chase down, you know, people out
there who did not agree with them. It's that mentality. And, hey,
I've been subjected to it. I was put in the
hospital by it back when I was, you know, up
at CU in student government. So I've seen that mob
in action. You know, it didn't deter me. I came back,
got out of the hospital, and ran for student body
president and won. But it is something to experience. that
(15:52):
whole mob mentality. And literally, it becomes animalistic, you know,
with the howling and the pack kind of roaming together
and hunting down people who disagree with them. I mean,
I remember laying on the floor of the UMC ballroom
on the Boulder campus, you know, as there was a
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guy screaming, kill Kaplis, kill Kaplis, as some people were
doing their best. And, of course, the idiot didn't realize
the tape machine was still on because it was a
student government meeting where a bill of mine was passed
that the mob didn't like. And they didn't realize that
the meeting was still recording. So the grand jury got
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to hear that tape and found it to be compelling evidence,
as did the trial jury. So, yeah, I guess the
mob learned something that day. Be sure to turn off
the tape recorders. Yeah. But they had earlier, it's interesting, Shannon,
earlier in that meeting, they had actually thrown out the
media that was at the meeting in the UMC ballroom.
(16:57):
There was a lot of media attention because the mob
had been promising violence leading up to the meeting if
the student senate called the executive council, approved the bill
that I was proposing. And so there was a lot
of media because, you know, the media wanted to see
if there was violence. But they threw the media out
before the violence, except for one reporter they allowed to stay.
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And that long ago, was he wearing a fedora? Oh, man.
That was a different era, man. But who knows? Maybe
it's not that different. I hope it's a lot different
at CU, and I suspect that it is. But, yeah,
that was 70s. Yeah, that was 70s, and there had
been some carryover violence into the 70s from some of
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the radical groups in Boulder. But for me, when I
watch that video of what happened Friday in Denver— as
the anti-ICE, you know, teen mobs went after, you know,
people who disagreed with them. Yeah, just such a dangerous
situation and such a dangerous mentality. You know, we saw
something but with older perpetrators against the, leveled against the
(18:05):
Back the Blue group a few years ago, you know,
when they gathered in Civic Center Park, and then we
saw the Antifa types descend on them. You know, the
same mob-type howling, literal howling mob-type mentality. But that is,
that's what the left's always been about, right? Because in
the end, they just can't win on the truth. And
I know that sounds cliche, but it's, as a practical matter, true. So, 303-713-8255, D-A-N-5-7-7-3-9.
(18:33):
We have a lot we want to do this afternoon,
but I'm going to continue this overarch of who were
at worst? Mayor Johnston? talking in a weird sort of way, positively,
about fentanyl and then getting the medical piece of it backwards?
Or Malat Kiro saying things that any reasonable person had
(18:57):
to know might provoke violence? You're on The Dan Kaplan Show.
Lindsey Clancy's defense attorney. What's next for Lindsey?
Speaker 4 (19:09):
I'd like to say that perhaps Donald Trump, who felt
compelled to speak out about this case, may very well, Mr. President,
I would hope that you would consider this young lady,
the type of person she is, what she's been through,
and consider a pardon.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Thanks for coming in this morning.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
My pleasure. We'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Oh, my goodness, this guy. Listen, I understand he, you know,
is an experienced, skilled defense attorney who did some good
things during trial. But is it that the cameras? that
intoxicated him. He just went nuts. And going out there
and attacking that jury individually, single juror, individually, publicly, afterward,
I hope. the Supreme Court back there takes a look
(19:52):
at that. Not that I want to see him punished,
but a message has to be sent. You cannot do
this to jurors. And as I said on Friday, what
I think he was doing was trying to intimidate the
next jury. Or intimidate the prosecutor out of refiling charges because, hey,
you won't be able to get any jurors. I just
publicly said anybody who won't acquit her is a bigot. Yeah,
(20:13):
just awful stuff there. Awful stuff. And then he's got
to be kind of out of his mind right now.
You know, maybe, again, just intoxicated by the spotlight to
go on national TV and call on the president to
issue a pardon. It's a state charge. He's got to
know that. You cannot pardon a state charge. This isn't
(20:34):
a federal prosecution. Yeah. Wow. 303-713-8255, DAN 57739. Glad you're here.
I want to get to some more text and calls
on this. And we're talking about two things locally. One
is this oh-so-dangerous move by Mayor Johnston to come out
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and actually say, positive things about fentanyl when it's a
mass murder. It's a mass murder in Colorado. It's a
mass murder in our community. He's kind of praising it,
it sounds like, as a great drug for the homeless.
And he's even got the medicine backwards because fentanyl puts
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you to sleep. It doesn't make you more alert, but
I'll play the sound. But why do you think he
did it? We haven't gotten to that much. I want
to get into that with you, at least my own
belief as to why he would say something this Dangerous
and wrong and.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Preposterous doctors who will say if I were to design
a perfect drug to help you survive homelessness You need
something who helps you stay up all night and be
alert in case you're gonna get jumped That helps you
be immune to cold and helps you go long stretches
without eating that is essentially what fentanyl does it is
a homelessness survival drug.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Is he nuts a Drug to help you a miracle
drug to help you survive homelessness fentanyl kills It kills.
It puts people to sleep and they never wake up.
It's killed so many people in our society. It's killed
so many people in Colorado, killed so many people in Denver,
across the entire spectrum of the population, from homeless people
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to the children of CEOs. It kills. So what a
bizarre statement for him to make about any drug. And
by the way, do you think he Got mixed up
was he trying to talk about meth, which is an
absolute killer and scourge in and of itself. But fentanyl
puts people to sleep. That's why they give it to
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so many people at the start of surgery.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
And then, you know, was this even more dangerous? Malat Kiros,
who is about to become, unfortunately, congresswoman in CD1, an
open avowed socialist, You can't get any closer to Hassan
Piker unless you marry him, right? He campaigned for her repeatedly,
with her repeatedly. And Piker is so flamingly, flagrantly anti-American
(22:58):
and anti-America and anti-Jew. And yet she gets a pass
on it from the same local media that will literally
follow a Republican around town who says or does something wrong.
And I have no problem with the media doing that.
Be as hard on the Republicans as the facts justify,
but have it be fair and balanced and go both ways.
(23:21):
So here's Malakiro speaking to a bunch of young, impressionable, very,
let's call them vulnerable students who have walked out of
school to protest ICE because they must be in a
very vulnerable place to have fallen for that unless they just,
you know, at that point just wanted to get some
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time off school. But here she says words and makes
false accusations that any reasonable person would have to know
might provoke violence.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Single person that is here right now thank you i
know a lot of you were faced with the threat
of suspension expulsion getting harassed online and still you chose
to show up today and stand up for your immigrant
neighbors that are being terrorized by this fascist administration and
this rogue agency that's kidnapping our neighbors and throwing them
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into concentration.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Camps Okay, so she tells a bunch of kids who
have now walked out of school that ICE is kidnapping
your neighbors and throwing them into concentration camps. She doesn't
realize that might provoke violence now or down the road?
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
And the starting point is it's a lie, right? And
then we get into the conversation about, hey, is it
illegal speech? No, it's political speech that doesn't directly advocate violence.
It's not illegal speech. But at what point At what
point should people moderate their political speech just in the
interest of basic human decency? And listen, I'm the last
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guy in the world. I've hosted a talk show for
about 30 years. I'm the last guy in the world
who wants to infringe on First Amendment rights. That's not
the point. That the point is about being honest, honorable,
decent people. And honest, honorable, decent people don't do what
she just did. And it's just amazing to me, you've
(25:19):
got this ideologically, and with that kind of speech, you know,
literal dangerousness, you know, now front and center on the
Colorado political scene, and the political media just gives her
a pass. Why is that? I mean, you look at
Hassan Piker in Michigan, and that's a big national story,
as it should be. What I mean, obviously, is the
(25:42):
relationship between Hassan Piker and Abdul El-Sayed, the Michigan Democrat
Senate candidate. And it should be a big national story
because anybody who campaigns with Hassan Piker, you assume, must
know and agree with his views. Because when somebody has
views that abhorrent and that radical, then no sane person
(26:03):
is going to be associated with Hassan Piker unless they
agree with those views or are willing to appear to
agree with those views, are willing to implicitly endorse those views.
So why does Malat Kiros in Denver, Colorado, get a
pass on that. Even if we had no Jewish people
(26:24):
in Colorado, the rest of us, and certainly our media,
should be willing to stand up for Jewish people everywhere.
But we have a healthy, important, thriving Jewish community in Colorado.
How does Malat Kiros get a pass? She wants the
state of Israel abolished. She says it. She campaigns repeatedly
(26:45):
with Hassan Piker, a flaming anti-Semite. Why does she get
a pass on all that? We played the sound on
air here. She talks about how the best solution would
be simply defund the Pentagon. So obviously she wants the
United States of America abolished as well.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Why does she get a pass? And why do you
think Mike Johnston said what he said as mayor? And
I've got to play that again because maybe he's been
fortunate enough to never have a surgical procedure. or maybe
to never even speak with a doctor, but there's a
reason they give you fentanyl at the start of surgery,
not always, but often, and it's to put you to sleep.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Doctors who will say, if I were to design a
perfect drug to help you survive homelessness, you need something
that helps you stay up all night and be alert
in case you're going to get jumped, that helps you
be immune to cold, and helps you go long stretches
without eating. That is essentially what fentanyl does. It is
a homelessness survival drug.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
He's just wrong medically. fentanyl puts you to sleep and
obviously puts a lot of people to sleep forever. But
why do you think he did this? I mean, he
has intelligence. He's an intelligent guy with a lot of
bad policies and stuff. But why do you think he
did this? Because anybody just instinctively, right, once they get
(28:00):
past maybe third grade, they understand you just don't say
anything that might be interpreted as positive about a mass-killing drug.
You just don't go there. So why do you think
he did? Why do you think he's trying to talk
about fentanyl in that positive light? I've got my own
theory on that. I'll give you that when we come back,
(28:22):
and then I want to get to a bunch of text,
including some that disagree with me here, which we are
always grateful for. You're on The Dan Kaplan Show.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
I just thought I'd put that one first because That's
just a tenor of the questions we get from Facebook.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Iran's doing a pretty good job. Yeah, so far. I
think the answer is no. Heart disease has always got
a shot. Yeah, I think we got that drop, didn't we? Oh,
good work, Shannon. Oh, no, no, no. Good work. We're
playing some sounds, some former Obama aides, one of whom
(29:02):
seemed to be wishing for President Trump's death when– There
was a word in there that we do not allow
on air. 303-713-8255, D-A-N-5-7-7-3-9. Sorry, my friend, I didn't flag
that for you. I just somehow missed that. Well, I
should be more thorough, but look at me. No, it's
my job to find those. It looks like I'm detail-oriented, Dan. Oh,
(29:25):
you have been for many, many decades, yes. I'm glad
you're with us. We're talking about who were at worst,
who's more dangerous here over the weekend. Was it Mayor
Mike Johnston, who appeared to be glorifying fentanyl while getting
the medicine backwards? Or was it Malat Kiros, who was
speaking words that any reasonable person, it seems, would know
(29:47):
might incite violence and told the lie anyway. So we'll
play that sound again. And then what a great text here.
I'm going to paraphrase it because there are so many
coming in. Dan, you keep playing the sound bites and
asking why. You tell us why. Well, I will do that.
I don't mean to be presumptuous, but let me play
them one more time. Here is Mayor Johnston.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Doctors who will say, if I were to design a
perfect drug to help you survive homelessness, you need something
that helps you stay up all night and be alert
in case you're going to get jumped, that helps you
be immune to cold, and helps you go long stretches
without eating. That is essentially what fentanyl does. It is
a homelessness survival drug.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
No, it's not. It's not all of that is backwards,
but to start out by glorifying it in sync. And
then we have Milat Kiros. And by the way, there
was violence in connection, especially in Denver, with this student walkout.
I can't prove, and I don't know whether it was
(30:47):
provoked in part by this lie from Kiros.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
To every single person that is here right now, thank you.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
I know a lot of.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
You were faced with the threat of suspension, expulsion, getting
harassed online, and so you chose to show up today
and stand up for your immigrant neighbors that are being
terrorized by this fascist administration and this rogue agency that's
kidnapping our neighbors and throwing them into concentration camps.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Okay, so you're going to tell us, someone about to
be elected congresswoman, you're going to tell a big group
of these kids, that the government is kidnapping your neighbors
and throwing them into concentration camps. How could you speak
words like those without realizing they might incite violence? I
(31:41):
don't know whether they incited the violence that followed, but
maybe they've incited violence that's going to come in the future.
Let's hope not. But how profoundly vicious and irresponsible and
such a lie to begin with. Yeah. And, you know,
to do it to any people of any age. But,
(32:02):
you know, you've got these impressionable kids out there. Yeah,
but that's just that's just what the left does. OK,
my take on this before I get to these other
text is with Johnston. I think that Johnston at this
point knows that he and the left are responsible for
a lot of this horrific fentanyl death and destruction in Colorado.
(32:27):
And he's just trying to rationalize that, distance himself from it.
To the bizarre point, he would actually put some implicitly
positive spin. Did I say meth fentanyl? And believe it
or not, I mean, they're both mass killers, right? But yeah,
he knows. He and the left, in lots of different ways,
are responsible for a lot of this fentanyl death in Colorado.
(32:51):
So he's trying to minimize it and otherwise explain it.
And then with Kiros, I think there, you know, I
hope she will come on the show someday. My own
personal belief is that, yeah, she had to know those
words were false and dangerous and might provoke violence. But
(33:12):
she just didn't care because, in my belief, she didn't
care because you look at the left and violence has
been lies and violence have been a tool of the
left forever. Because they're not going to win on the
truth and logic and reason and common morality, etc. Look
(33:33):
at the history of socialism. But it's only going to
get worse with her, and it already is with Johnston,
but worse with her because of the past that she's
been given by the political media. Can you imagine if
it was somebody on the right who was out there
saying things as dangerous and extreme and campaigning repeatedly with
(33:57):
some bizarre figure that people attributed to the right who
was saying all of this hateful anti-American and bigoted stuff.
You know, a guy like Carl Clark would be on
that Republican every single day until that Republican left town,
as he should be, as he should be. But Kuros,
she just gets a pass. Why? Why do you think?
(34:20):
And I I'll let you know what I think. But
I do want to get to some texters. Dan, there's
no immunity to cold. Right. Fentanyl does not keep you
awake all night as a homeless person so you can
protect yourself. It puts you to sleep. And if you're lucky,
you wake up again. And a lot of people don't.
And it doesn't make you immune to cold unless, of course,
it kills you. Dan, Kuros is a demagogue. Johnston, uninformed.
(34:45):
You're giving Johnston way too much credit there, my friend. Dan,
could ICE director shout and scream? Kuros is trying to
brainwash children. Well, obviously, there are a lot of very
impressionable kids out there. Now, by the way, the numbers,
and I'd love to just hear from folks around the
state on this, my guess is that not that many
(35:05):
kids walked out of school, fortunately, on Friday, or we
would have seen more media coverage on it. We would
have seen more on social media, and we didn't. So
even in Denver, where you see that the video of
these PACs, howling, literally PACs, attacking people who disagree with them.
Some people went to the hospital. I think a couple
(35:25):
were admitted. You know, even there, you don't see what
appears to be large numbers. Like in the past, when
you've had large numbers walk out during George Floyd or whatever,
you'll see these big throngs. So hopefully there just wasn't
that big a turnout. But the sort of crazy violence
we saw, crazed violence we saw, against people who disagreed
(35:47):
with them is, I think, indicative of what's behind all this. Dan,
although Johnston and Kiros are mistaken, Kiros' statement is more
dangerous because her statement affects the state where Johnston's statement
affects Denver. I respectfully disagree with that texter, and I
want to come back and address that. Dan, come on. Yes,
Kiros is a nutcase, but how are her words going
(36:11):
to incite violence any more than the right to life
or is talking about murdering millions of babies? There's a
key and critical distinction there I'll take next.
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