April 6, 2026 • 34 mins
Dan discusses the latest developments in politics and current events. He touches on the US military's impressive rescue mission in the Middle East and the looming deadline for Iran to agree to certain conditions or face consequences. Dan also dives into the Colorado state races, specifically the attorney general's election, where Michael Allen is running against Jena Griswold. Dick Wadhams joins the conversation, sharing his insights on the state of the races and the potential for a GOP pickup in Colorado.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to
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single day on your favorite podcast platform. Let's have to
be so proud of the American way today when you
look at what the military accomplished to rescue that second
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pilot and the rescue of the first pilot, very impressive,
but the second pilot. So many more details today from
the president's press conference, which I watched in its entirety.
It's just if it was in a novel, you wouldn't
believe it.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
We'll review some of those details, have some sound on
it as we work our way through the hour. Now
we're coming up on we're about twenty four hours away,
twenty five hours from the president's drop dead deadline to Iran.
Either open the straight agree no nuclear weapons, certain other
conditions that we're not aware of, or we're bombing you
back to the Stone Age, starting with your power grids
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and your bridges. I mean, we're twenty five hours away
from that, so we're talking about those issues. Also. Do
you think it's a bluff, I don't, Dick. Adam's kind
enough to be in studio with us. You don't think
it's a bluff, right, Dick? Yeah, this is just kind
of redline he's he's going to enforce. But will there
be a deal before then? If we were to hit
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as a nation, if we were to hit these grids
as well as the bridges Democrats say would be a
war crime? Are those legitimate military targets? Is that something
we should be doing? So all of that is on
the table, and then Dick's here to talk about this
big development with the federal court judge handing down this
ruling that now makes it so much more feasible for
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the GOP and the Dems if they wanted to. But
the GOP to now say, no, we're not going to
have primaries anymore. We're going to select our candidates through
caucuses and assemblies. It won't be a deal where voters
get to vote. So will the GOP do that? So
we're kicking that around and it leads us lots of
different places, including in response to a text, the election
integrity issue and do we have elections that can be trusted?
(02:03):
So we've got all that going on. For the record,
if you're new to the show, thank you for being here.
My position since that heartbreaking morning after the election back
in twenty twenty has not changed, and that is I
understand why there are so many legitimate questions about what
people saw on election Night twenty twenty, with the flow
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and the pattern and the pace of the results. But
I have not seen evidence that that election was stolen,
that there was enough fraud to overturn the results. But
I know, look at the polls, there are many Americans
who doubt it. And then you get Dick. Let's talk
to Jenna Griswold for a second. I mean, and one
thing I want to ask you about because this hour
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we're also, in addition to Iron, we're going to be
moving into the state of these races in Colorado right now.
But I see a very real opportunity for a GOP
pickup statewide in the attorney general race. If Jenna Griswold
is the Democrat nominee. We've got a real prosecutor, we've
got a real law person, we've got a real courtroom
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lawyer in Michael Allen, and they would have somebody who
is not a courtroom lawyer, not a practicing lawyer, and
lied about arguing before the US Supreme Court. Seems like
a decent matchup for US.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Jenna Griswold is incompetent, blindly partisan. You, she is nothing
more but a pile of ambition. She's a she's abusive
to her staff. And that that came out shortly before
the Democratic State Assembly that some former a large group
of former staffers signed a letter talking about how what
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a miserable place it is to work. The good news,
dand is this though Jenna Grizswold does not administer elections
in Colorado, such sixty four county clerks administer the elections.
Most of them are Republican, by the way, and that's
why the process is legitimate, and it is and it
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is a very good process. And so that's the good
news because frankly, if she was the person who actually
ran the election, she has some involvement in it, yes,
but ultimately the day to day election administration is done
by county clerks and also sixty four counties.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Right. But that the typical hard working person in the
state doesn't know there. Right, So you look at the
Secretary of State and I can't think of one sane
person inside or outside the Griswold family, who would trust
Jenna Griswold to run a fair election. Now that doesn't
mean I distrust Colorado elections, right, But I don't look
at Jenna Griswold and trust her, right Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
No, no, I don't either. In fact, I find in
fact she does put her thumb on the scale whenever
she can within the office, she does. But she but fortunately,
and I will say this as well, Dan, there are
some very professional staff members in the Secretary of State's Office,
like who do have a big role in working with
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the course courts on elections. They are professionals that have
been there for a while, and they are they are
honest and straightforward. And so that's the other factor here.
She gives the Secretary of State's office a bad name.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Writ and I think undermind's confidence.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
She says.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
On the one hand, I think their elections overall are trustworthy,
and I think the GOP gets hurt by people who
assume it's not trustworthy, so they're not even going to
bother to vote. And so I hope every single GOP
voter goes out and votes. But at the same time,
come on, how many hundreds of bios passwords were online
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for months, right under the gold standard of that.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
That's right, and that that comment about she argued in
front of the Supreme Court. I mean, Dan, I'm not allocated,
but even I know that that's what that means.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
She lies, and the Dems are blasting her on that right.
And it's like when I'm talking to jury's and I
say people lie for a reason, all the head's not
because we all know it's true. People lie for a reason.
And her reason is that she doesn't have the legal
chops to be our attorney general. No, so she makes
up this lie that she argued to the US Supreme Court.
It's kind of a seems like a deep psych thing.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Well, what's scary too, Dan is the Secretary of State.
I mean, she's rather limited in her power, ags like
a real job in real office. And I will tell
you what, it is scary for me to think about that.
And talking to my Democratic friends, many of them feel
just as strongly as you and I do about her.
They really cannot stand her and are afraid for her
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to be there. My goodness, that's why.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I so respect these Dems are speaking out against her
former judge An Frick, who wrote that piece in Westward
that the former staffer who came out, I mean, because
they've got to be afraid of the gulag or something.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Unfortunately, there are three pretty credible opponents for her in
the Democratic primary, and frankly, I think she wins the
four way primary or a three way primary. If one
of them could get ahead to head with her, I
think they could win. But it's going to be hard
with a the fuse primary.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Well, but I think our very best chance for Michael
Allen to win, and I think there'd be enormous benefit to.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
The state and the GP, I agree, is a head
to head with Jenna Chriswald. He is an outstanding candidate.
Michael Allen is the best.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, he's going to be on I think Wednesday again.
But yeah, you look at say Mike Doherty on the
DEM side. Yes, you know we disagree on her left
right stuff, but he is a true lawman. See, he
is a true prosecutor. He's the real deal. So if
the matchup is Michael Allen and Michael Doherty, yes, it's
going to be a lot harder race I think for
Michael Allen.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Oh yeah, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
So Wow, this is going to be amazing to watch
three all three seOne three eight two five five d
an five seven seven three nine Dan. Truth is, most
people ignore primaries. Maybe employers need to give time off
all voting as a way toward apathy. I'm trying to
remember the percentage turnout in primaries. It's not nothing.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
No, it's in fact that with the mail ballot, it
actually has gotten to be pretty high.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
You know, Oprah Winfrey, you saw that story votes in Colorado. No,
I know, I haven't seen it confirmed, but I saw that.
Let me go out and get a confirmed but I
saw that report. Okay, that she gets a Colorado ballot.
Let me get a confirmed. Well, we'll see if that's true.
What we're talking Oh, yeah, No, what we were talking about,
(08:35):
I think was let me go back to that text.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Oh about employers giving the time O. Yeah, yeah, you know,
I'm intrigued by that. You know, there's been there's been
a lot of discussion in the past about moving election
day to a Saturday.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
But but of course in Colorado we have the mail ballot,
which I know people a lot of people don't like
the mail ballot, but I think people need to remember
how we got there to the mail ballot. Over about
ten or fifteen years, so many people signed up for
what is called the permanent absentee ballot, and mounted to
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eighty five percent of voters got the permanent absentee ballot.
Nobody was using the precinct polling locations on election day,
and so you had these massive amounts of money being
spent on these locations and these poll workers and they
were bored all day. They took naps all day and
they really didn't take aaps. I'm kidding about that, but
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they could have. But eighty five percent of the electorates said,
we want to get a ballot in the mail, so
we have to take the time to fill out the ballot.
Seniors like it, young people like it. I mean, if
you tried to take the mail ballot away from voters,
there would be an uprising. I mean they would say,
are you crazy? Why are you doing this? We want
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the convenience to have the time to look at the
ballot and make our decisions and not have to go
on a Tuesday or any other day for that matter.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Well, regardless of how you're gonna do. And I want
to get back to some male ballot issues, additional ways
to have additional security there. But should everybody be voting
based on the same information? In other words, rather than
having election months? Does there need to be an election
day an election week? Should everybody be voting on the
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same information? Well, right now, can you hold that thush kick?
I'm sorry I lost track of the time because such
an interesting conversation. When we come back, are you up
for a little hate mail?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Of course?
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Okay, we got some seven three eight two five. I
didn't say whether it's about you or me, but it's
about you. D A n five seven seven three nine.
Dick Wadham's in the house. You're on the Dan Capitlas Show.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast tap Easter.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
We had great easter.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
This is one of our better easters.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I think in a lot of different ways. I can
say militarily, it's been one of the best.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Now, Ryan's music bump was not directed to that sound. No, No,
neither Ryan or I think the president is what was
that song? Rebel without a clue? Not at all. I
think he's been an incredibly brave and courageous and bold
commander in chief, and that's why we have you know
the second pilot back. I mean, my goodness to imagine that.
And the President talked about it a bit today and
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said that it was disagreement within the military as to
whether to mount that rescue because hundreds of US troops
were involved.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
The President was right, yeah, and he was no troops
wanted to do that too, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Oh can you imagine? And he was told that, you know,
we could lose one hundred men on this mission. But yeah,
just a lot to admire there. Now, of course, we
come up to we're twenty four and a half hours
away from the president's redline deadline, sending around back to
the Stone Age, he says, if they haven't opened the
straight and agreed to others, including no nuclear weapons before
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six o'clock Mountain tomorrow. So we're talking about that whether
the bridges and power grids would be fair military targets Democrats,
they and they'd be war crimes to strike those presidents
as No, they're legitimate military targets. So now we're also
talking obviously about the state of the races in Colorado. Now,
if you're new to the state, Dick Wadams has won
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here before, one big one. Some really impressive races. I
don't think in modern history anybody has won as much
as Dick has. It's been a while now because the
demographics of the state changed, but Dick has one here
and very few people can say that. So your take,
my friend, and then I'll get to some text and
we'll take calls as well. Let's start with the governor's
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racing Colorado. State of the race? Is it no Hoper?
Is there a chance to win it?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Well, Dan, it's still not pill battle in Colorado because
this is still Tilt's blue. The reality is is that
President Trump's numbers in Colorado are not good and that
affects Republican candidates. His approval rating is under forty percent,
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his disapproval is in the mid to high fifties. That
does affect Republican candidates. Now, the good news is this
recent polling, especially in the lighter part of twenty twenty five,
showed that voters are getting tired of Democratic control and
they see and feel the state in decline. So that's
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the good news. And so I think we're in a
stronger position in twenty twenty six than we have been
in some time. And if we nominate strong candidates who
talk about the issues, you have an agenda that people
care about. I think our candidate for governor could actually
I'm not going to predict a win, but I think
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they could run a very aggressive campaign nurse race right now.
I think the one candidate to who I look at
the lens of having run a campaign for governor in
Colorado that won, the only one that has won in
the last fifty years, by the way, Governor Bill Owens.
The one who comes closest to running being that kind
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of candidate with that kind of campaign, as Senator Barbara Kirkmeyer.
And I think she's got a record of accomplishment in
the Senate. I'm not involved in her campaign. I'm not
or anything, but the other candidates, I think it bogged
down in a lot of extraneous issues that don't matter
or that are actually harmful to Republicans, and I think
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they would not only not win, they would probably help
drag down candidates for Congress and the legislature across the state.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Dick wadhams our guest Dick, a Texter says, name is
Gary Bonus, member from El Paso, part of the Caliro
State Central Committee. We have already voted opt out. This
took place in spite of Brita Horn fighting us. The
LAS suit is partially from the Colorado vote. We have
already opted out. We just did not have seventy five percent.
The vote has already taken place. Please don't listen to
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the never trumper Dick Wattams. I won't tell you at
grassroots people call them because this is a show accessible
to children.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I don't know what Gary's talking about or whatever his
name is. The fact is is that he kind of
admits in that in that text that they did not
get seventy five percent, which up until up until that
that court decision, that was the threshold of the entire
Central Committee, not just those who showed up at the
committee meeting, and that's a big difference between those numbers. Listen,
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they'll get another shot at it next year. They'll probably
get they'll probably knock the threshold down to fifty percent
in the aftermath of this court decision, and they'll probably
opt out, and then the Republican Party will be absolutely
an irrelevant sect. It will be a narrow little group
of people who have and the number of Republicans who
will probably be elected to the legislature will be even
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less than it is today, and we probably would not
hold on to the four congressional seats we have today.
So if people want to go down that road and
they have the votes to do it, more powered to them.
But I'll tell you that when you exclude nine hundred
thousand people from voting in the primary, when you tell
more than two million unaffiliateds that get lost and just
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participate in the democratic process, that is a recipe for disaster.
And I don't understand how anybody can support that.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yeah, and I'm a lot more worried about telling the
current registered Republicans they can't vote than about telling unaffiliateds
they can't vote. I understand the risk there. But when
you tell the people who have bothered to do what
not many do and register Republican right because our numbers
are down, the Democrat numbers are down, most people are unaffiliated,
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And then you tell them you don't get to vote
in the primary unless you come to the caucus and
or the Assembly. Yeah, I'm really worried about alienating people
that And let's.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Play that out. Dan, nine hundred thousand Republicans, many would
probably say three or four hundred thousand of that number
have traditionally voted in primary. So you get to the
primary in June of twenty twenty eight, and they're expecting
a ballot in the mail. They haven't heard about all
this stuff we've been talking about today, and so they
call their county clerk. By the way, I didn't get
my primary ballot, and the clerk says, well, there is
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no Republican primary. And that person says, what do you
mean there's no Republican primary. Well, your party voted to
kill the Republican primary. And they're going to say, are
you kidding me? I mean, I'm telling you, Dan, it
is a disaster. I cannot believe any thinking person could
support this. Apparently there are.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
When we come back. Why then, do you think the
GEP is going to do it? And I got an
interesting text about this issue of whether Oprah Winfrey actually
receives a Colorado ballot. You're on the Dan Capush.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast of the Best.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
They asked the seven days. I said, I'm going to
give you ten, but at the end of ten, all
hell's going to break out if you don't get.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
The President Trump reiterating he is not going to move
off his red line, which is twenty four and a
half hours away from right now. So will the regime
choose back to the Stone Age? President says, We're going
to wipe out all the grids and all the bridges,
or agree to give up nuclear weapons, open the Strait,
and some other conditions which have not been fully disclosed publicly.
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Three h three seven one three eight two five five
five seven seven three nine Dick Wadhams in the house
set is a beautiful thing, So much to talk about.
This stunningly almost unimaginably brilliant and courageous military mission to
recover the second pilot, and impressive they got the first
pilot so quickly. But that, uh, that's such a boost,
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I think to all Americans and the American military and
the power of deterrence, because I'm sure you were the
same way Dick and Ryan was, because I know both
you guys. Just it was kind of a cloud hanging
over Easter weekend. You know what's happened to this pilot?
Will the Iranians turn up with them? And not the
Iranian people, but obviously that regime they're just straight out
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of hell. Demons. Yeah, yeah, how do you think it
ends in Iran?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Well, we'll walk away or not walk away, but we'll
exit at some point and the nation, the nations, the
political and military infrastructure will be destroyed, and hopefully the
Iranian people will rise up and replace this, this horrible
regime that's been in office this nineteen seventy nine. Yeah.
Actually they're not in office. They took it by force,
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they exactly.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
And you know, Trump seems determined to win the war
that the regime started forty seven years ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
And a texture to my phone. It texted me a
tweet from Mike O'Donnell and it says, and I believe
it's the same Mike o'donald we've had on the show before.
(20:07):
I'll double check that says. I wonder why Oprah Winfrey
is registered to vote and an active Colorado voter. You
must certify that an address is your quote primary residence.
You can only have one to register to vote in Colorado.
Yet her ballot is mailed to Santa Barbara each election.
Now active Colorado voter, that term technically would not mean
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that she votes here, correct, So it could be that
she doesn't vote here and the Colorado just sends a
ballot out there.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Well, she's declaring her main residences here. I guess I'm
not sure what the legal terms are, but she's when
you register to vote somewhere, you're declaring that that's your
main residence and where you're going to vote from.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
I'll DM Mike in the next break and see if
he can pop on and maybe clarify that. Yeah, for us,
But I don't think there's any question from everything I've seen.
I haven't studied it or litigated it, but that Colorado
voter rolls would be cleaned up some more.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I imagine. I'm not a technical expert on that.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
But yeah, it's but we have been talking about if
you just joined us, We've been talking about this potential
matchup of Michael Allen for the GOP, the current DA
and l Passo, really impressive prosecutor, a true courtroom lawyer
versus Jenna Griswold, the great Supreme Court litigator who never
has but claim she has. Yeah, I just think, Dick,
(21:28):
can you tell me is this just naive wishful thinking? Hopium?
But the people of Colorado, I understand pretty much statewide,
anything with the Red Jersey gets politically shot, right, But
when it comes to people's safety, yes, Attorney General enforcing
the law. Aren't people going to think twice before voting
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for somebody who everybody knows is not a practicing lawyer,
not a courtroom lawyer. Apparently, from what we can tell,
has never argued a case, and Tralon certainly lied when
she said she argued before the US Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Well, one of the things that Jenna Griswold does do
well about the only thing she does do well is
raise money. And remember Dan, one of the things she
did over the last several years she was Secretary of State,
she went on MSNBC constantly. Well, that created kind of
a national visibility with hardcore liberals across the nation, and
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they very successfully. Her campaign raised money from a national
database of liberal voters who watched her, and you know,
she was trashing Trump every time. And so that that's
one advantage she has going into this primary and into
the general election. She's going to have a huge financial advantage.
And that's that's a that's a reality.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
So did ye Bush?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
I understand, but listen, listen to practically every campaign I've
ever managed. We were outspent by the opposition so I
know it's not the only thing that matters.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
And let me argue against my own argument. Okay, because
I say that about Jeb Bush. But Trump had some
other advantages, but he was able to use the debates.
And here's a big problem we have in Colorado right now.
Democrats have figured it out. They will, for the most part,
some exceptions, only debate if Kyle Clark is the moderator.
I think most people see Kyle Clark at KUSA is
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an extension of the Colorado Democratic Party, and those who
do it's hard to argue with him, right, So there
isn't and then there might be one debate. So you
don't have enough debates in Colorado, or enough debates that
are true debates for an opponent of Jennick Griswell to
be able to fully expose her. But that leads the
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question of Michael Allen. Will he be able to raise
enough money to make sure that people of Colorado know
all this stuff about her?
Speaker 2 (23:46):
That is the question. Dan. Yeah, I hope so, but
I don't know if he'll be able to or not.
There is still a perception that Colorado is not winnable.
And frankly, and by the way, Dan if we nominate,
If if this opt out happens, if a guy who
says that there's a a Synagogue of Satan whose members
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should be publicly executed, I will tell you the Republican
Party will be damaged and it won't make any difference
do we nominate.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
So that'll be interesting to see where that chair race goes,
because you would think anybody who wants to be elected
chair when the regular election cycle plays out next March
would be running. Now maybe not.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah, we'll find out together. Three out three seven, three
eight two five five an five seven seven three nine.
Yep for another hate mail?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Oh you got.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Dan? Can you ask Dick to gloat some more about
John the pall Bearers soon? I can't believe I'm saying this,
but he's actually more of a feckless rhino than McConnell was.
Thanks a lot, Dick, you.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Know, I gotta tell you, I don't even know how
to respond to that. John Thune has been a loyal
majority leader for President Trump. He helped Marshall through two
hundred judicial nominations for Trump in the first term. He
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got the Big tax bill through the Big Beautiful Bill
last year. This notion that I can't even respond to
this Dand because I tell you this, these are people
who have no idea what it takes to win an
election and how to run the Senate. And it's just
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kind of I feel sorry for people like this guy
because they really don't really know anything about how to
win an election, but they think they do. But they've
never been part of anything. I can guarantee you. I
don't know who this guy is, but I can guarantee
you he was never around any campaign I ran in one.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah, yeah, Well, why do you think people who think
that way do? And why do you think they send
a text.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Like I have no idea? Because I have nothing in
common with them. I really don't. I really don't, because,
by the way, I believe in winning elections, not putting
a not self emulating, and doing things that guarantee losing.
And that's what those people like that guy do. They
do things to ensure defeat and a general election so
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and he can trash through and all he wants. All
I know is that Thune one and this guy who
called in is not did not because it has never
been a part of anything that won.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
And just you know, in fairness, looking back historically, that
was a massive, massive victory.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
And nobody predicted either. I can guarantee you when I
went to Sound Dakota that year, no one thought we
were going to win, including the Republican National Committee.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah. I mean that was a massive victory and by
the way, it paid off.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
If they don't like the fact that Thune wants to
preserve the filibuster, we are not going to control the
USA on it forever. And if we if we do
away with a filibuster, it will give Democrats total power
to do whatever they want because they're going to control
it at some point.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Well, and then they're going to do way with the filibuster, right.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
I'm not sure they will then because there are a
lot of because listen, a lot of thinking Democrats know
they don't they they don't want to get to do
away with the filibuster because they know that the Republicans
will control the Senate. It goes back and forth. Yeah,
I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, And the shot at McConnell. You know this, The
shot at McConnell is really interesting to me because I understand,
you can pick anybody, right, anybody other than Jesus Christ himself.
And you can say they were wrong there, or they
messed up here, or they messed up there. I don't
understand why folks on our side, and you see it
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on the DEM side too, want to just look at
the bad, want to want to just focus on what
you disagree about and and then just rather lose the
race than reporting somebody who can win who you disagree with.
I'll address the abortion thing in a second that I
know some listeners have in mind, because even though I
liked him very much, I could not back Joe in
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that Senate race. But McConnell, I mean, think about it,
and I've said this before, I disagree with some stuff
he's done, but there literally should be a statue to
him because he preserved that US Supreme Courts see and
we got Justice Neil Gorse rather than having Merrick Garland.
That was all Mitch McConnell. Then remember he got amy
(28:33):
Cony Barrett confirmed in forty days after Justice Ginsburg passed. Yes,
I mean that is generations.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Beyond the Supreme Court nominations dan more than two hundred
federal judge ships. There would have been more, but the
Trump administrations quit sending names to the Senate McConnell got
him all through. McConnell got the big taps build through.
I mean, what did McConnell do that was so wrong?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I never I think because he was obviously very critical
of Trump right and.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Well on January sixth, and believe me, that's a Believe me.
I agreed with McConnell on that.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
But McConnell did some heroic things. So I think we
come back to don't let the perfect be the enemy
of the good, particularly when it means the political opponent wins.
My one exception of that is, you know, Joe O Day,
who I really liked, but personally, I just can't give
my power to somebody who's going to use it to
expand baby killing. You're on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Thank you Ryan.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Who's cover is that?
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Obviously a Steve Winwood song.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Dick Watams knows that, but that's Warren Zevon.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Covering it little hollow version and you've liked it before,
so I reprised it.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Thank you. That is a beautiful saying. Ryan does a
great show every morning six to ten am, six pot thirty.
Kitch W Denver Dick Watams in the House. Dick, we've
been talking about the attorney general's race and Texter regarding
Jenna Griswold for Attorney General. After Phil Wiser's win, all
bets are off. As far as I'm concerned, that was
one of the most discouraging election results ever, and I
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think the reference being too. We had a phenomenal GOP
candidate in my friend and partner, John Callner. He's our
managing partner at a law firm now after serving with
distinction as he RAPO DA George Brockler, one of the
best candidates we've ever had, and lost to DA's race
before that. Both were our top vote getters in those cycles,
both John and and of course George. But I see
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this as a whole different territory. I think either John
or George beat Jenna Griswold under these circumstances if she nominated.
And I see Michael Allen as coming out of that
really credible impressive DA mode.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yeah, yeah, he really is an outstanding candidate if he
can raise enough money to he doesn't have to outspend her,
but he needs to raise enough money to get his
message out, and so I'm optimistic about Michael Allen. I
remember Dan, for years, even when we were electing Republican
or Democratic governors, we were electing Republican attorney's general and
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secretary of State. And so we could be returning to
that kind of a situation where there's more discernment on
the part of the voters in terms of who they
vote for up and down the ticket.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I hope that's the case, especially you know, when we're
talking reptile stuff, you're talking to your own self protection,
protection of your family, attorney general prosecutor. Because there's never
been a Democrat candidate for attorney general before who wasn't
a real practicing.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Lawyer, right right.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Nobody in the right mind thinks of Jenna Griswold as, okay,
the state's top lawyer. Nobody thinks it just a very
ambitious politician. Democrats didn't want to in the governor's race,
so they hander the attorney general's job as the consolation prize.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I mean, there are plenty blieve, man, there's plenty I
disagree with Wiser on, but you can't ignore the fact
that he's a lawyer.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yeah, well, and listen, I understand the good argument against
him at the time of the election, which was he
wasn't an actual practicing court exactly, but he had been
a US Supreme Court clerk, if I remember, he'd been
deemed at law school, so he had he had some
real contact with the legal world. Jennet Griswold, doesn't she
just her only contact with the legal world is she
lied about arguing to the US Supreme Court. Still talk
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about a whopper now, Alexa from our show, she's a
very sensible, logical person who disagrees with both of us.
On tune, she writes, standon Dixon, her Thune is playing
games and not getting Trump's appointinges through. That is disgraceful.
Please explain how this is okay, Alexa?
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Who is she talking about this? He got all the
cabinet through in record time. They have been moving appointments.
I'm not sure what she's talking about.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Now, Dick, I want to do a quick kind of
lightning thing here because we only have a couple of
minutes left in the show. Predictions the biggest surprise of
the twenty twenty six election cycle.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Well, I hope it's that we win the AG's office.
And I hope that's right.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Republican nominee for governor. I mean, who are we going
to have?
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Well, I know who I hope it is. I think
I think it will be Barbara Kirkmeyer.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Okay, Now, do you expect anybody else on the ballot
in the primary?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Yes? I believe that there it will be a three
way primary with Scott Bottoms and the Victor Marx.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Okay, who is the Republican nominee for US Senate going
to be?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Probably Mark Basley's they Senator Mark Basley, But hard to
get a handle on that race.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Who's the damn nominee for governor going to be?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
It probably will be Bennett, but I will tell you
Wiser is giving him quite a run. And I would
not be surprised that Bennett. But if Wiser pulls off
an upset.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Yeah, would it even be an upset anymore?
Speaker 2 (33:48):
You could build that case. I mean, Bennett has been
running a horrible campaign, He had to change campaign managers.
He still can't articulate what he wants to be, what
he wants to do as governor. And here it is
a year later that he's been in the race, and
he still kind of fumbles around with why he is running.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
And he's got this whole royal thing going where he's
going to appoint his success.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Or not the people.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Yeah, yes, and no, I wouldn't surprise me at all
now after having said for so long it's Bennet. Benet
wouldn't surprise me at all now if it was Wiser
in our last ten seconds, who would be easier to beat?
Bennet or Wiser?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
I frankly think Bennett would be.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah, I think you're right. Thank you Dick for being here.
Thank you Ryan. Please join us tomorrow as that deadline
approaches
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be so proud of the American way today when you
look at what the military accomplished to rescue that second
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pilot and the rescue of the first pilot, very impressive,
but the second pilot. So many more details today from
the president's press conference, which I watched in its entirety.
It's just if it was in a novel, you wouldn't
believe it.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
We'll review some of those details, have some sound on
it as we work our way through the hour. Now
we're coming up on we're about twenty four hours away,
twenty five hours from the president's drop dead deadline to Iran.
Either open the straight agree no nuclear weapons, certain other
conditions that we're not aware of, or we're bombing you
back to the Stone Age, starting with your power grids
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and your bridges. I mean, we're twenty five hours away
from that, so we're talking about those issues. Also. Do
you think it's a bluff, I don't, Dick. Adam's kind
enough to be in studio with us. You don't think
it's a bluff, right, Dick? Yeah, this is just kind
of redline he's he's going to enforce. But will there
be a deal before then? If we were to hit
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as a nation, if we were to hit these grids
as well as the bridges Democrats say would be a
war crime? Are those legitimate military targets? Is that something
we should be doing? So all of that is on
the table, and then Dick's here to talk about this
big development with the federal court judge handing down this
ruling that now makes it so much more feasible for
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the GOP and the Dems if they wanted to. But
the GOP to now say, no, we're not going to
have primaries anymore. We're going to select our candidates through
caucuses and assemblies. It won't be a deal where voters
get to vote. So will the GOP do that? So
we're kicking that around and it leads us lots of
different places, including in response to a text, the election
integrity issue and do we have elections that can be trusted?
(02:03):
So we've got all that going on. For the record,
if you're new to the show, thank you for being here.
My position since that heartbreaking morning after the election back
in twenty twenty has not changed, and that is I
understand why there are so many legitimate questions about what
people saw on election Night twenty twenty, with the flow
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and the pattern and the pace of the results. But
I have not seen evidence that that election was stolen,
that there was enough fraud to overturn the results. But
I know, look at the polls, there are many Americans
who doubt it. And then you get Dick. Let's talk
to Jenna Griswold for a second. I mean, and one
thing I want to ask you about because this hour
(02:45):
we're also, in addition to Iron, we're going to be
moving into the state of these races in Colorado right now.
But I see a very real opportunity for a GOP
pickup statewide in the attorney general race. If Jenna Griswold
is the Democrat nominee. We've got a real prosecutor, we've
got a real law person, we've got a real courtroom
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lawyer in Michael Allen, and they would have somebody who
is not a courtroom lawyer, not a practicing lawyer, and
lied about arguing before the US Supreme Court. Seems like
a decent matchup for US.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Jenna Griswold is incompetent, blindly partisan. You, she is nothing
more but a pile of ambition. She's a she's abusive
to her staff. And that that came out shortly before
the Democratic State Assembly that some former a large group
of former staffers signed a letter talking about how what
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a miserable place it is to work. The good news,
dand is this though Jenna Grizswold does not administer elections
in Colorado, such sixty four county clerks administer the elections.
Most of them are Republican, by the way, and that's
why the process is legitimate, and it is and it
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is a very good process. And so that's the good
news because frankly, if she was the person who actually
ran the election, she has some involvement in it, yes,
but ultimately the day to day election administration is done
by county clerks and also sixty four counties.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Right. But that the typical hard working person in the
state doesn't know there. Right, So you look at the
Secretary of State and I can't think of one sane
person inside or outside the Griswold family, who would trust
Jenna Griswold to run a fair election. Now that doesn't
mean I distrust Colorado elections, right, But I don't look
at Jenna Griswold and trust her, right Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
No, no, I don't either. In fact, I find in
fact she does put her thumb on the scale whenever
she can within the office, she does. But she but fortunately,
and I will say this as well, Dan, there are
some very professional staff members in the Secretary of State's Office,
like who do have a big role in working with
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the course courts on elections. They are professionals that have
been there for a while, and they are they are
honest and straightforward. And so that's the other factor here.
She gives the Secretary of State's office a bad name.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Writ and I think undermind's confidence.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
She says.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
On the one hand, I think their elections overall are trustworthy,
and I think the GOP gets hurt by people who
assume it's not trustworthy, so they're not even going to
bother to vote. And so I hope every single GOP
voter goes out and votes. But at the same time,
come on, how many hundreds of bios passwords were online
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for months, right under the gold standard of that.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
That's right, and that that comment about she argued in
front of the Supreme Court. I mean, Dan, I'm not allocated,
but even I know that that's what that means.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
She lies, and the Dems are blasting her on that right.
And it's like when I'm talking to jury's and I
say people lie for a reason, all the head's not
because we all know it's true. People lie for a reason.
And her reason is that she doesn't have the legal
chops to be our attorney general. No, so she makes
up this lie that she argued to the US Supreme Court.
It's kind of a seems like a deep psych thing.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Well, what's scary too, Dan is the Secretary of State.
I mean, she's rather limited in her power, ags like
a real job in real office. And I will tell
you what, it is scary for me to think about that.
And talking to my Democratic friends, many of them feel
just as strongly as you and I do about her.
They really cannot stand her and are afraid for her
(06:45):
to be there. My goodness, that's why.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I so respect these Dems are speaking out against her
former judge An Frick, who wrote that piece in Westward
that the former staffer who came out, I mean, because
they've got to be afraid of the gulag or something.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Unfortunately, there are three pretty credible opponents for her in
the Democratic primary, and frankly, I think she wins the
four way primary or a three way primary. If one
of them could get ahead to head with her, I
think they could win. But it's going to be hard
with a the fuse primary.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Well, but I think our very best chance for Michael
Allen to win, and I think there'd be enormous benefit to.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
The state and the GP, I agree, is a head
to head with Jenna Chriswald. He is an outstanding candidate.
Michael Allen is the best.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, he's going to be on I think Wednesday again.
But yeah, you look at say Mike Doherty on the
DEM side. Yes, you know we disagree on her left
right stuff, but he is a true lawman. See, he
is a true prosecutor. He's the real deal. So if
the matchup is Michael Allen and Michael Doherty, yes, it's
going to be a lot harder race I think for
Michael Allen.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Oh yeah, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
So Wow, this is going to be amazing to watch
three all three seOne three eight two five five d
an five seven seven three nine Dan. Truth is, most
people ignore primaries. Maybe employers need to give time off
all voting as a way toward apathy. I'm trying to
remember the percentage turnout in primaries. It's not nothing.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
No, it's in fact that with the mail ballot, it
actually has gotten to be pretty high.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
You know, Oprah Winfrey, you saw that story votes in Colorado. No,
I know, I haven't seen it confirmed, but I saw that.
Let me go out and get a confirmed but I
saw that report. Okay, that she gets a Colorado ballot.
Let me get a confirmed. Well, we'll see if that's true.
What we're talking Oh, yeah, No, what we were talking about,
(08:35):
I think was let me go back to that text.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Oh about employers giving the time O. Yeah, yeah, you know,
I'm intrigued by that. You know, there's been there's been
a lot of discussion in the past about moving election
day to a Saturday.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
But but of course in Colorado we have the mail ballot,
which I know people a lot of people don't like
the mail ballot, but I think people need to remember
how we got there to the mail ballot. Over about
ten or fifteen years, so many people signed up for
what is called the permanent absentee ballot, and mounted to
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eighty five percent of voters got the permanent absentee ballot.
Nobody was using the precinct polling locations on election day,
and so you had these massive amounts of money being
spent on these locations and these poll workers and they
were bored all day. They took naps all day and
they really didn't take aaps. I'm kidding about that, but
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they could have. But eighty five percent of the electorates said,
we want to get a ballot in the mail, so
we have to take the time to fill out the ballot.
Seniors like it, young people like it. I mean, if
you tried to take the mail ballot away from voters,
there would be an uprising. I mean they would say,
are you crazy? Why are you doing this? We want
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the convenience to have the time to look at the
ballot and make our decisions and not have to go
on a Tuesday or any other day for that matter.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Well, regardless of how you're gonna do. And I want
to get back to some male ballot issues, additional ways
to have additional security there. But should everybody be voting
based on the same information? In other words, rather than
having election months? Does there need to be an election
day an election week? Should everybody be voting on the
(10:29):
same information? Well, right now, can you hold that thush kick?
I'm sorry I lost track of the time because such
an interesting conversation. When we come back, are you up
for a little hate mail?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Of course?
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Okay, we got some seven three eight two five. I
didn't say whether it's about you or me, but it's
about you. D A n five seven seven three nine.
Dick Wadham's in the house. You're on the Dan Capitlas Show.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast tap Easter.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
We had great easter.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
This is one of our better easters.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I think in a lot of different ways. I can
say militarily, it's been one of the best.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Now, Ryan's music bump was not directed to that sound. No, No,
neither Ryan or I think the president is what was
that song? Rebel without a clue? Not at all. I
think he's been an incredibly brave and courageous and bold
commander in chief, and that's why we have you know
the second pilot back. I mean, my goodness to imagine that.
And the President talked about it a bit today and
(11:28):
said that it was disagreement within the military as to
whether to mount that rescue because hundreds of US troops
were involved.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
The President was right, yeah, and he was no troops
wanted to do that too, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Oh can you imagine? And he was told that, you know,
we could lose one hundred men on this mission. But yeah,
just a lot to admire there. Now, of course, we
come up to we're twenty four and a half hours
away from the president's redline deadline, sending around back to
the Stone Age, he says, if they haven't opened the
straight and agreed to others, including no nuclear weapons before
(12:03):
six o'clock Mountain tomorrow. So we're talking about that whether
the bridges and power grids would be fair military targets Democrats,
they and they'd be war crimes to strike those presidents
as No, they're legitimate military targets. So now we're also
talking obviously about the state of the races in Colorado. Now,
if you're new to the state, Dick Wadams has won
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here before, one big one. Some really impressive races. I
don't think in modern history anybody has won as much
as Dick has. It's been a while now because the
demographics of the state changed, but Dick has one here
and very few people can say that. So your take,
my friend, and then I'll get to some text and
we'll take calls as well. Let's start with the governor's
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racing Colorado. State of the race? Is it no Hoper?
Is there a chance to win it?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Well, Dan, it's still not pill battle in Colorado because
this is still Tilt's blue. The reality is is that
President Trump's numbers in Colorado are not good and that
affects Republican candidates. His approval rating is under forty percent,
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his disapproval is in the mid to high fifties. That
does affect Republican candidates. Now, the good news is this
recent polling, especially in the lighter part of twenty twenty five,
showed that voters are getting tired of Democratic control and
they see and feel the state in decline. So that's
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the good news. And so I think we're in a
stronger position in twenty twenty six than we have been
in some time. And if we nominate strong candidates who
talk about the issues, you have an agenda that people
care about. I think our candidate for governor could actually
I'm not going to predict a win, but I think
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they could run a very aggressive campaign nurse race right now.
I think the one candidate to who I look at
the lens of having run a campaign for governor in
Colorado that won, the only one that has won in
the last fifty years, by the way, Governor Bill Owens.
The one who comes closest to running being that kind
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of candidate with that kind of campaign, as Senator Barbara Kirkmeyer.
And I think she's got a record of accomplishment in
the Senate. I'm not involved in her campaign. I'm not
or anything, but the other candidates, I think it bogged
down in a lot of extraneous issues that don't matter
or that are actually harmful to Republicans, and I think
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they would not only not win, they would probably help
drag down candidates for Congress and the legislature across the state.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Dick wadhams our guest Dick, a Texter says, name is
Gary Bonus, member from El Paso, part of the Caliro
State Central Committee. We have already voted opt out. This
took place in spite of Brita Horn fighting us. The
LAS suit is partially from the Colorado vote. We have
already opted out. We just did not have seventy five percent.
The vote has already taken place. Please don't listen to
(15:08):
the never trumper Dick Wattams. I won't tell you at
grassroots people call them because this is a show accessible
to children.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I don't know what Gary's talking about or whatever his
name is. The fact is is that he kind of
admits in that in that text that they did not
get seventy five percent, which up until up until that
that court decision, that was the threshold of the entire
Central Committee, not just those who showed up at the
committee meeting, and that's a big difference between those numbers. Listen,
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they'll get another shot at it next year. They'll probably
get they'll probably knock the threshold down to fifty percent
in the aftermath of this court decision, and they'll probably
opt out, and then the Republican Party will be absolutely
an irrelevant sect. It will be a narrow little group
of people who have and the number of Republicans who
will probably be elected to the legislature will be even
(16:02):
less than it is today, and we probably would not
hold on to the four congressional seats we have today.
So if people want to go down that road and
they have the votes to do it, more powered to them.
But I'll tell you that when you exclude nine hundred
thousand people from voting in the primary, when you tell
more than two million unaffiliateds that get lost and just
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participate in the democratic process, that is a recipe for disaster.
And I don't understand how anybody can support that.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yeah, and I'm a lot more worried about telling the
current registered Republicans they can't vote than about telling unaffiliateds
they can't vote. I understand the risk there. But when
you tell the people who have bothered to do what
not many do and register Republican right because our numbers
are down, the Democrat numbers are down, most people are unaffiliated,
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And then you tell them you don't get to vote
in the primary unless you come to the caucus and
or the Assembly. Yeah, I'm really worried about alienating people
that And let's.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Play that out. Dan, nine hundred thousand Republicans, many would
probably say three or four hundred thousand of that number
have traditionally voted in primary. So you get to the
primary in June of twenty twenty eight, and they're expecting
a ballot in the mail. They haven't heard about all
this stuff we've been talking about today, and so they
call their county clerk. By the way, I didn't get
my primary ballot, and the clerk says, well, there is
(17:24):
no Republican primary. And that person says, what do you
mean there's no Republican primary. Well, your party voted to
kill the Republican primary. And they're going to say, are
you kidding me? I mean, I'm telling you, Dan, it
is a disaster. I cannot believe any thinking person could
support this. Apparently there are.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
When we come back. Why then, do you think the
GEP is going to do it? And I got an
interesting text about this issue of whether Oprah Winfrey actually
receives a Colorado ballot. You're on the Dan Capush.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast of the Best.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
They asked the seven days. I said, I'm going to
give you ten, but at the end of ten, all
hell's going to break out if you don't get.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
The President Trump reiterating he is not going to move
off his red line, which is twenty four and a
half hours away from right now. So will the regime
choose back to the Stone Age? President says, We're going
to wipe out all the grids and all the bridges,
or agree to give up nuclear weapons, open the Strait,
and some other conditions which have not been fully disclosed publicly.
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Three h three seven one three eight two five five
five seven seven three nine Dick Wadhams in the house
set is a beautiful thing, So much to talk about.
This stunningly almost unimaginably brilliant and courageous military mission to
recover the second pilot, and impressive they got the first
pilot so quickly. But that, uh, that's such a boost,
(18:56):
I think to all Americans and the American military and
the power of deterrence, because I'm sure you were the
same way Dick and Ryan was, because I know both
you guys. Just it was kind of a cloud hanging
over Easter weekend. You know what's happened to this pilot?
Will the Iranians turn up with them? And not the
Iranian people, but obviously that regime they're just straight out
(19:17):
of hell. Demons. Yeah, yeah, how do you think it
ends in Iran?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Well, we'll walk away or not walk away, but we'll
exit at some point and the nation, the nations, the
political and military infrastructure will be destroyed, and hopefully the
Iranian people will rise up and replace this, this horrible
regime that's been in office this nineteen seventy nine. Yeah.
Actually they're not in office. They took it by force,
(19:45):
they exactly.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
And you know, Trump seems determined to win the war
that the regime started forty seven years ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
And a texture to my phone. It texted me a
tweet from Mike O'Donnell and it says, and I believe
it's the same Mike o'donald we've had on the show before.
(20:07):
I'll double check that says. I wonder why Oprah Winfrey
is registered to vote and an active Colorado voter. You
must certify that an address is your quote primary residence.
You can only have one to register to vote in Colorado.
Yet her ballot is mailed to Santa Barbara each election.
Now active Colorado voter, that term technically would not mean
(20:27):
that she votes here, correct, So it could be that
she doesn't vote here and the Colorado just sends a
ballot out there.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Well, she's declaring her main residences here. I guess I'm
not sure what the legal terms are, but she's when
you register to vote somewhere, you're declaring that that's your
main residence and where you're going to vote from.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
I'll DM Mike in the next break and see if
he can pop on and maybe clarify that. Yeah, for us,
But I don't think there's any question from everything I've seen.
I haven't studied it or litigated it, but that Colorado
voter rolls would be cleaned up some more.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I imagine. I'm not a technical expert on that.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
But yeah, it's but we have been talking about if
you just joined us, We've been talking about this potential
matchup of Michael Allen for the GOP, the current DA
and l Passo, really impressive prosecutor, a true courtroom lawyer
versus Jenna Griswold, the great Supreme Court litigator who never
has but claim she has. Yeah, I just think, Dick,
(21:28):
can you tell me is this just naive wishful thinking? Hopium?
But the people of Colorado, I understand pretty much statewide,
anything with the Red Jersey gets politically shot, right, But
when it comes to people's safety, yes, Attorney General enforcing
the law. Aren't people going to think twice before voting
(21:49):
for somebody who everybody knows is not a practicing lawyer,
not a courtroom lawyer. Apparently, from what we can tell,
has never argued a case, and Tralon certainly lied when
she said she argued before the US Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Well, one of the things that Jenna Griswold does do
well about the only thing she does do well is
raise money. And remember Dan, one of the things she
did over the last several years she was Secretary of State,
she went on MSNBC constantly. Well, that created kind of
a national visibility with hardcore liberals across the nation, and
(22:23):
they very successfully. Her campaign raised money from a national
database of liberal voters who watched her, and you know,
she was trashing Trump every time. And so that that's
one advantage she has going into this primary and into
the general election. She's going to have a huge financial advantage.
And that's that's a that's a reality.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
So did ye Bush?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
I understand, but listen, listen to practically every campaign I've
ever managed. We were outspent by the opposition so I
know it's not the only thing that matters.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
And let me argue against my own argument. Okay, because
I say that about Jeb Bush. But Trump had some
other advantages, but he was able to use the debates.
And here's a big problem we have in Colorado right now.
Democrats have figured it out. They will, for the most part,
some exceptions, only debate if Kyle Clark is the moderator.
I think most people see Kyle Clark at KUSA is
(23:17):
an extension of the Colorado Democratic Party, and those who
do it's hard to argue with him, right, So there
isn't and then there might be one debate. So you
don't have enough debates in Colorado, or enough debates that
are true debates for an opponent of Jennick Griswell to
be able to fully expose her. But that leads the
(23:39):
question of Michael Allen. Will he be able to raise
enough money to make sure that people of Colorado know
all this stuff about her?
Speaker 2 (23:46):
That is the question. Dan. Yeah, I hope so, but
I don't know if he'll be able to or not.
There is still a perception that Colorado is not winnable.
And frankly, and by the way, Dan if we nominate,
If if this opt out happens, if a guy who
says that there's a a Synagogue of Satan whose members
(24:11):
should be publicly executed, I will tell you the Republican
Party will be damaged and it won't make any difference
do we nominate.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
So that'll be interesting to see where that chair race goes,
because you would think anybody who wants to be elected
chair when the regular election cycle plays out next March
would be running. Now maybe not.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah, we'll find out together. Three out three seven, three
eight two five five an five seven seven three nine.
Yep for another hate mail?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Oh you got.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Dan? Can you ask Dick to gloat some more about
John the pall Bearers soon? I can't believe I'm saying this,
but he's actually more of a feckless rhino than McConnell was.
Thanks a lot, Dick, you.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Know, I gotta tell you, I don't even know how
to respond to that. John Thune has been a loyal
majority leader for President Trump. He helped Marshall through two
hundred judicial nominations for Trump in the first term. He
(25:17):
got the Big tax bill through the Big Beautiful Bill
last year. This notion that I can't even respond to
this Dand because I tell you this, these are people
who have no idea what it takes to win an
election and how to run the Senate. And it's just
(25:38):
kind of I feel sorry for people like this guy
because they really don't really know anything about how to
win an election, but they think they do. But they've
never been part of anything. I can guarantee you. I
don't know who this guy is, but I can guarantee
you he was never around any campaign I ran in one.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah, yeah, Well, why do you think people who think
that way do? And why do you think they send
a text.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Like I have no idea? Because I have nothing in
common with them. I really don't. I really don't, because,
by the way, I believe in winning elections, not putting
a not self emulating, and doing things that guarantee losing.
And that's what those people like that guy do. They
do things to ensure defeat and a general election so
(26:26):
and he can trash through and all he wants. All
I know is that Thune one and this guy who
called in is not did not because it has never
been a part of anything that won.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
And just you know, in fairness, looking back historically, that
was a massive, massive victory.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
And nobody predicted either. I can guarantee you when I
went to Sound Dakota that year, no one thought we
were going to win, including the Republican National Committee.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah. I mean that was a massive victory and by
the way, it paid off.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
If they don't like the fact that Thune wants to
preserve the filibuster, we are not going to control the
USA on it forever. And if we if we do
away with a filibuster, it will give Democrats total power
to do whatever they want because they're going to control
it at some point.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Well, and then they're going to do way with the filibuster, right.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
I'm not sure they will then because there are a
lot of because listen, a lot of thinking Democrats know
they don't they they don't want to get to do
away with the filibuster because they know that the Republicans
will control the Senate. It goes back and forth. Yeah,
I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, And the shot at McConnell. You know this, The
shot at McConnell is really interesting to me because I understand,
you can pick anybody, right, anybody other than Jesus Christ himself.
And you can say they were wrong there, or they
messed up here, or they messed up there. I don't
understand why folks on our side, and you see it
(27:49):
on the DEM side too, want to just look at
the bad, want to want to just focus on what
you disagree about and and then just rather lose the
race than reporting somebody who can win who you disagree with.
I'll address the abortion thing in a second that I
know some listeners have in mind, because even though I
liked him very much, I could not back Joe in
(28:10):
that Senate race. But McConnell, I mean, think about it,
and I've said this before, I disagree with some stuff
he's done, but there literally should be a statue to
him because he preserved that US Supreme Courts see and
we got Justice Neil Gorse rather than having Merrick Garland.
That was all Mitch McConnell. Then remember he got amy
(28:33):
Cony Barrett confirmed in forty days after Justice Ginsburg passed. Yes,
I mean that is generations.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Beyond the Supreme Court nominations dan more than two hundred
federal judge ships. There would have been more, but the
Trump administrations quit sending names to the Senate McConnell got
him all through. McConnell got the big taps build through.
I mean, what did McConnell do that was so wrong?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I never I think because he was obviously very critical
of Trump right and.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Well on January sixth, and believe me, that's a Believe me.
I agreed with McConnell on that.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
But McConnell did some heroic things. So I think we
come back to don't let the perfect be the enemy
of the good, particularly when it means the political opponent wins.
My one exception of that is, you know, Joe O Day,
who I really liked, but personally, I just can't give
my power to somebody who's going to use it to
expand baby killing. You're on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Thank you Ryan.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Who's cover is that?
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Obviously a Steve Winwood song.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Dick Watams knows that, but that's Warren Zevon.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Covering it little hollow version and you've liked it before,
so I reprised it.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Thank you. That is a beautiful saying. Ryan does a
great show every morning six to ten am, six pot thirty.
Kitch W Denver Dick Watams in the House. Dick, we've
been talking about the attorney general's race and Texter regarding
Jenna Griswold for Attorney General. After Phil Wiser's win, all
bets are off. As far as I'm concerned, that was
one of the most discouraging election results ever, and I
(30:13):
think the reference being too. We had a phenomenal GOP
candidate in my friend and partner, John Callner. He's our
managing partner at a law firm now after serving with
distinction as he RAPO DA George Brockler, one of the
best candidates we've ever had, and lost to DA's race
before that. Both were our top vote getters in those cycles,
both John and and of course George. But I see
(30:36):
this as a whole different territory. I think either John
or George beat Jenna Griswold under these circumstances if she nominated.
And I see Michael Allen as coming out of that
really credible impressive DA mode.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yeah, yeah, he really is an outstanding candidate if he
can raise enough money to he doesn't have to outspend her,
but he needs to raise enough money to get his
message out, and so I'm optimistic about Michael Allen. I
remember Dan, for years, even when we were electing Republican
or Democratic governors, we were electing Republican attorney's general and
(31:14):
secretary of State. And so we could be returning to
that kind of a situation where there's more discernment on
the part of the voters in terms of who they
vote for up and down the ticket.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I hope that's the case, especially you know, when we're
talking reptile stuff, you're talking to your own self protection,
protection of your family, attorney general prosecutor. Because there's never
been a Democrat candidate for attorney general before who wasn't
a real practicing.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Lawyer, right right.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Nobody in the right mind thinks of Jenna Griswold as, okay,
the state's top lawyer. Nobody thinks it just a very
ambitious politician. Democrats didn't want to in the governor's race,
so they hander the attorney general's job as the consolation prize.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I mean, there are plenty blieve, man, there's plenty I
disagree with Wiser on, but you can't ignore the fact
that he's a lawyer.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yeah, well, and listen, I understand the good argument against
him at the time of the election, which was he
wasn't an actual practicing court exactly, but he had been
a US Supreme Court clerk, if I remember, he'd been
deemed at law school, so he had he had some
real contact with the legal world. Jennet Griswold, doesn't she
just her only contact with the legal world is she
lied about arguing to the US Supreme Court. Still talk
(32:24):
about a whopper now, Alexa from our show, she's a
very sensible, logical person who disagrees with both of us.
On tune, she writes, standon Dixon, her Thune is playing
games and not getting Trump's appointinges through. That is disgraceful.
Please explain how this is okay, Alexa?
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Who is she talking about this? He got all the
cabinet through in record time. They have been moving appointments.
I'm not sure what she's talking about.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Now, Dick, I want to do a quick kind of
lightning thing here because we only have a couple of
minutes left in the show. Predictions the biggest surprise of
the twenty twenty six election cycle.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Well, I hope it's that we win the AG's office.
And I hope that's right.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Republican nominee for governor. I mean, who are we going
to have?
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Well, I know who I hope it is. I think
I think it will be Barbara Kirkmeyer.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Okay, Now, do you expect anybody else on the ballot
in the primary?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Yes? I believe that there it will be a three
way primary with Scott Bottoms and the Victor Marx.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Okay, who is the Republican nominee for US Senate going
to be?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Probably Mark Basley's they Senator Mark Basley, But hard to
get a handle on that race.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Who's the damn nominee for governor going to be?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
It probably will be Bennett, but I will tell you
Wiser is giving him quite a run. And I would
not be surprised that Bennett. But if Wiser pulls off
an upset.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Yeah, would it even be an upset anymore?
Speaker 2 (33:48):
You could build that case. I mean, Bennett has been
running a horrible campaign, He had to change campaign managers.
He still can't articulate what he wants to be, what
he wants to do as governor. And here it is
a year later that he's been in the race, and
he still kind of fumbles around with why he is running.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
And he's got this whole royal thing going where he's
going to appoint his success.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Or not the people.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Yeah, yes, and no, I wouldn't surprise me at all
now after having said for so long it's Bennet. Benet
wouldn't surprise me at all now if it was Wiser
in our last ten seconds, who would be easier to beat?
Bennet or Wiser?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
I frankly think Bennett would be.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah, I think you're right. Thank you Dick for being here.
Thank you Ryan. Please join us tomorrow as that deadline
approaches
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