Joining guest host Erin Lee is the brilliant mind behind New Discourses, Dr. James Lindsay, who shares his expertise on the Marxist takeover in Colorado and how it's affecting the rest of the country. But that's not all - the episode also features a powerful and courageous 13-year-old girl who's standing up for what she believes in, despite the odds being against her.
Dr. Lindsay explains how Colorado has become a hotbed of Marxist activity, with the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) playing a significant role in the state's politics. He shares his insights on how the DSA uses Marxist ideology to manipulate and control people, and how this is affecting the country as a whole. The conversation also touches on the importance of educating ourselves and our children about the dangers of Marxism and critical theory.
But the real star of the show is 13-year-old Noel, who's making waves with her powerful pro-life poem. Despite being told she couldn't read it in school, Noel stood up for what she believed in and her poem went viral on social media. Her mom, Jackie, joins the show to talk about their experience and how they're fighting back against the school district's attempts to silence their daughter.
This episode is a powerful reminder that we all have a role to play in standing up for what we believe in, and that our children are watching and learning from us. If you're concerned about the state of our country and want to be inspired by the courage of a young girl who's making a difference, tune in to this episode of the Dan Caplis Show.
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(00:37):
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Speaker 4 (00:39):
I'll take it. Yeah, so the last texts coming.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
It makes my job a lot easier with the likes
of you.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Erin.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Oh man, you thought the first hour was good, Get
ready for this because our next guest is probably the
coolest person on earth.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Is kind of a big deal.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
How lucky that the state of Colorado that he's paying
attention and supporting our grassroots efforts here.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Dottor James Lindsay.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
He is a best selling author many times over, the
brilliant mind behind new discourses, and everyone's favorite X account,
Doctor James Lindsay. Thank you for joining me on the
Dan Kapla show.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Hey erin great to hear it from you.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yes, hey, first question, after we successfully surprised you with
the Protect Kids Colorado Champion Trophy, did you find the
perfect place to prominently display your prestigious major award.
Speaker 6 (01:25):
It is right next to me, as a matter of fact,
on the bookshelf here in my office, staring me down
so that I can never ever forget the obligation that
I have to help the grassroots of Colorado and the
rest of the United States.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
You were like, I got a major award and you were.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Looking at the statues while I was putting them mount
and I'm so glad I pulled that one over on you.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
Well, I kind of reflected on that. I was looking
down the list of them, like, you know, I got
down like three of them, and I thought to myself,
you know, maybe I should stop looking at these, and
I did, and it just kind of worked out.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Because you're in tuition is always right?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
For anyone who doesn't follow James Lindsay, He's always right.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
So I'm sorry to ask.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
You this again every time you come out here to Colorado,
I ask you to explain this, but different set of listeners.
So can you just help our listeners understand what the
heck happened here in Colorado? What is this philosophical route
that has captured Colorado.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
Well, I hate to use a big word right off
the bat, but what's captured Colorado is what's haunting the
rest of the United States, And basically it's Marxism. Our
society is now facing its turned fight off Marxism. In
some states got targeted earlier and more vigorously. Obviously we
know about California, and we can look at the Pacific
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Northwest and Washington and Oregon. But Colorado got targeted pretty
vigorously a decade or two ago, and more or less
got flipped to the point where now you have openly
communist members of your state legislature ds A activity happening
even in the legislature, to where the state is in
a lot of trouble. But a lot of people don't
(03:06):
understand that this. You know, everything is a conflict, everything
is a presser versus oppressed, and it's always somehow the
powerful group is the problem is ultimately just Marxism taking
new forms and it's attacking Colorado.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
That was actually my next question. You touched on it.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
But what's the Democratic Socialist of America's role in this
capture here?
Speaker 5 (03:26):
I mean they're a major vehicle.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
They're probably one of the larger and more organized national
level organizations that the acts as a vehicle for Marxism.
They claim that they are not specifically Marxist. I don't
believe them personally, but they claim that they are not,
but that they have a Marxist wing that they tolerate
and allow to be part of what they do. I
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think that this is a bit of smoke and mirrors.
I think the entire thing runs a Marxist operating system,
which is that a presser versus oppressed. We're going to
basically run a revolution to see the means of control
of society. It used to be the means of production
in a capitalist sense, and that's what the Marxist wing.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Would care about.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
But this is a large national organization that has lots
of money, lots of coordinations, So this is very important
for a state like Colorado, which.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Is not a gigantic state.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
You've got about four million voters there in Colorado, not
the biggest state in the Union. But if they need
something done, all of a sudden, all of those DSA
chapters from all over the country will unify. This was
very prominent in the election of Mayor z Aaron Mandami
in New York City. He is a Democratic Socialist, he
is part of the DSA, and when he was running
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his campaign, you had people showing up from all over
the country DSA members supporting him online and showing up
in person in New York City to volunteer and get
out for him. So it creates a gigantic nationwide pool
of resources by which they can achieve political agendas even
in small local places like cities or counties or even states.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
So they appear bigger than they are, then right, they.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Know they are bigger than they appear. Is it's the
other way around.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
That's terrifying, and they're so flagrant about it. Here, how
does Colorado size up against all the other communist states?
I know, you're funny, You're like, there's something about the
sea word, California, Chicago, Colorado, it's all communists. How do
we size up against these other communist states? Are we
the craziest or are we just the one that went
downhill the fastest.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
I think you're the one that went downhill the fastest,
but in a sense you're you're one of the worst,
and maybe the worst, not in overall craziness of policy.
I think that it's very likely that California and New
York still eclipse you. The Pacific Northwest probably is also
beyond what Colorado is actually putting forward. But the fact
(05:44):
is that nobody believes Colorado has gone down this road.
And that's really important because when we look at these
states like Oregon or California, or New York or Connecticut
or Illinois, we kind of have this sense, or even Minnesota,
we have this sense that something very far left has happened,
and therefore people kind of orient in that regard. But
(06:04):
when you tell people that Colorado has gone crazy, they
don't believe you, so they won't help, they won't get involved.
They're like, no, no, no, that's Colorado. It's a mountain state.
It's a free state.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
A lot of.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
Libertarians maybe, but it's a good, solid, you know, ranching
conservative state and it's simply not so. When you have
this combination of the state that's gone very very wacky,
very fast. I mean, Colorado does put forth some of
the least constitutional, most communist policies of any of the
states that I've seen. And then you mix that with
the fact that nobody believes that this is happening because
(06:34):
it's just one of these you know, Western you know
Mid America states. You have a big problem on your
hands that you can't get the kind of help or
backup or resources that you need because nobody believes it's happening.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yes, I have certainly experienced that. I know you've been
in the room with me. I've experienced that people don't
understand how bad it is. So leads me to my
next question. When everyone else has forsaken blue states like ours,
you've leaned into it, You've supported us, you were the
only big influencer to support our ballot measures. Why does
our fight in Colorado matter everywhere else?
Speaker 6 (07:09):
Well, I mean there's a lot of reasons. Number one
is I've kind of I've never formally made this happen.
If somebody wants to take it and run with it,
I'm not going to be upset, but I always wanted
to kind of start something I wanted to call the
fifty Stars initiative, which would be that we're going to
try to keep all fifty stars on the flag. Basically
all fifty states are operating according to American principles, that
we don't give up on any state, Colorado, California, you
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name it.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
We don't give up on these states.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
And that you know, a lot of times the Republican
Party does give up on these states. They have to triage,
they don't have the money to reach out to, you know,
losing political battles the way that they maybe could. And
I think that what we need is stronger grassroots efforts
in these states. I don't want to see us give
up on any state. But at the same time, there's
something about, you know, Colorado fell very quickly, but there's
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something about the idea of Colorado pushing back, pushing this
back out of its state that would be incredibly moralizing
to the rest of the country to see that this
fight can win, that we can fight back against the
radical left and take back a state or even take
back counties, take back municipalities, and push this back out
of our communities. That this isn't a lost cause that
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what goes left doesn't have to stay that way. I
think it would be very very moralizing to your run
of the mill Americans across the country, and it would be
very demoralizing to the radical left.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
And they're going to dump a ton of resources in.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
They're going to get very upset, They're going to throw
a huge fit if they lose ground. And Colorado is
actually because it is actually a solidly middle America, you know,
central plains, mountain state. There are a lot of good
people there, a lot of very solid, very you know,
independent minded, you know, rugged individual type people there. It
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does have this opportunity to kind of shake off the
cobwebs and get active and to push this back out
and to send that message to the United States of
America right from the very center of the country and
say look, no, we're not beholden to the left. We
can fight this back. And so Colorado is a great
state to get you know, involved in. Plus, you know,
how bad is it to have to visit the Rockies
(09:14):
every now and then because I'm helping out.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
You're welcome back anytime.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Thank you for believing in us when everyone else has
forsaken us.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Hang around.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
We're going to go to commercial break, but when we
come back, we're going to talk about how we can
fix Colorado.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
You're listening to the Dankplis Show. This is Aaron Lee.
Speaker 7 (09:31):
And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Welcome back to the Dan Kaplis Show. This is Aaronlee
filling in today. I'm getting a lot of good texts
about James Lindsay on the line. Someone's an excellent guest
regarding discussion about Colorado, communists and Marxist.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
I told you he's probably the coolest.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Person on earth, definitely the most knowledgeable about how Colorado
has been taken over by communists and Marxist. We're talking
with doctor James Lindsay. He is a brilliant mind behind
new discourses. If you don't already follow him, and I
assume you do, because he's got a huge following, you
really should because we have to understand the problem if
we are to fix it. Welcome back to the Dan
(10:08):
Kapla Show. James, thanks for joining me.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Thank you again.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Erin, so we talked about how Colorado has been taken over.
Now let's talk about what we can do to fix it. What,
in your professional opinion, can every day Coloraden's be doing
to take this beautiful state back.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
Well, I mean, first of all, what you guys have
done with these valid initiatives is a huge, huge, It's
beyond a first step. It's a huge first step is
past a first step. It is a huge strike to
remind people that Coloraden's can get involved. The hard part
for dealing with this is that it's all really slow,
it's all very insidious. It's all, you know, taking little
(10:48):
tiny bites at a time to make a difference, and
it has to start with actually knowing what you're dealing with.
So one of the most important things people can do
is they can get educated enough of about this to
be able to recognize it when it's in their kids' schools,
when it's around them, when issues are being framed in
the suppressor versus oppressed manipulative dynamic. It's just a little bit,
(11:11):
it's not a huge lift, but you have to learn
a little bit about the basics of Marxist conflict theory
in order to understand what you're dealing with it, because
then you're going to engage it differently. The whole game
is to get you to fall into tricks and traps
to go along with things that you wouldn't otherwise agree with.
And when you can see it, first of all, you
(11:31):
can do something about it. You can spot it, you
can say something about it, you can organize, you can
start a ballot initiative if you need to.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
And on the other hand, you can do.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
The most important thing of all, which is to sit
down and educate your kids. To debrief with your kids
after they go to school. Find out what they're learning,
find out how they're learning it, and you know, get in,
get in the weeds with them and take a part
of the worldview that's being injected into them through their schools.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Do you have any not to put you on the spot,
but any resource as people can use with their kids
to help them deprogram Like, my kids listen to new discourses.
But how can we be deprogramming our kids?
Speaker 6 (12:08):
Well, I don't have a lot of resources directly geared
at kids. I have a hard time talking to college
graduates and bringing it down. But if if your kids
can listen to new discourses, A lot of kids can
listen to new discourses, but there are a lot of
people start looking for resources out there to you know,
use the search engines, get on social media and see
who's actually talking about this in the education space, in particular,
(12:31):
if you want to find out how to help your kids.
I know that Preger You has made a lot of
really great materials that point in this direction that I've
seen some of it and would recommend uh. So, you know,
get out there and look for it, but start with
Preger You if if you, if you don't know, or
else to look, because they've made very specifically tailored materials
to deal with this that that are are age appropriate
(12:52):
and can help your kids engage.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I'll never forget the first time I met you a
couple of years ago, you and me that Tucker Carlson
was the woke right shifting gears a little bit, and
I'm just along with Canvas and others. You just have
this a brilliant ability to see and the guts to
say things before everyone else does. I think a lot
of people don't understand the woke right. Can you help
listeners just understand what that means and how you spotted it?
Speaker 6 (13:19):
Well, the way I spotted it's probably easier to communicate.
It's I have this knack where you know, I'm very
good at noticing patterns. You introduced me as doctor James Lindsay,
my doctorate, my PhD. I'm not a medical doctor. My
doctorate is in mathematics, and in particular, the branch of
mathematics that I specialized in is invested very deeply in
(13:41):
pattern recognition and description. So when something doesn't fit, so like,
let's say it's Tucker Carlson's doing his show and he
says what he says every night, and he says, you
know this thing and that's conservative, and he says this
thing that's conservative. Then he says something about Elizabeth Warren's
economic policies, and that really just doesn't fit. It sticks
out to me more than it sticks out to most people.
(14:01):
I happen to have a pretty good memory for this
kind of thing. So when it starts to be the
third or the fourth or the fifth thing that they
say that doesn't fit, but that fits a different pattern
that stands out.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
I don't know that I'm brave enough.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
To say things or have the guts, like you said,
I might just be too stupid not to say them.
I'm not exactly sure, but I do tend to open
my mouth after I become confident that I'm seeing a
pattern that doesn't square with the pattern that I should
be seeing. And so I did this with this so
called woke right. The woke right's actually very simple. Another
(14:34):
way you could phrase it is socially conservative socialists. They
believe most of the same things the left does. They
act the same way that the left does, except that
they're socially conservative instead of socially liberal. So they're not
out there, you know, promoting all the pro sexual stuff.
They're not out there manipulating about you know, racial minorities. Instead,
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they're going the other direction. They're very socially conservative. They
promote you know, what they can call a traditionalist lifestyle
in a very kind of extreme way, and they tend
to be very pro white people as opposed to pro
racial minority and set up that conflict. But again, remember
I said, you have to understand how Marxism works to
set up conflicts. They set up a conflict between the races,
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rather than trying to resolve the conflict by saying that,
you know, we should really not be looking at race
the way that you know, identity politicians do. So it's
people that are sympathetic to Marxist analysis, even though they're
conservatives or right wing or it's people who use the
critical theory method for right wing causes. Critical theory means
(15:38):
that you picture. All you do is you point out
where something's not perfect, over and over and over again
in order to say that you're more that you have
a better analysis of it than anybody else.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
That's all it means. It doesn't have to be more
complicated than that.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
So when they say, you know, President Trump isn't you know,
delivering on all of his promises, Therefore he changed, Therefore
he's captured by nefarious powers or Benjamin Nettan Yao who
in Israel controls him. They're just doing a conspiracy theory,
and they're they're asserting this based on the fact that
President Trump is doing the best he can in reality,
not in a perfect world where he can snap his
(16:11):
fingers and do anything he wants. So that's the critical theory.
He's doing it in reality, but since it's not perfect,
it's bad. Therefore he's the part of a conspiracy. That's
the conspiracy theory or the critical theory mindset. And so
people on the right wing can use this mindset too,
and that's the woke.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Right, that makes sense. I'm glad you touched on critical theory.
I encourage everyone to read James's book, Queering of the
American Child that explains in detail critical theory and how
it's being applied to our children. I so appreciate you
taking time out of your busy schedule to join us
to support us here in Colorado. It means the world
to have someone who's a champion, the PKC champion from
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a major award outside of Colorado, paying attention and helping.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Us to take back this beautiful state.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Thank you for your time, doctor James Lindsay, Yeah, thank
you so much.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
It is a beautiful state and I love the state
and I'm in your corner as long as you need me.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Thank you so much. All Right, everyone, you're listening to
the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
This is Aaron Lee. We'll be right back after this break.
Oh I ended too soon?
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Oh man, I could have had thirty more seconds with
doctor James Lindsay.
Speaker 8 (17:18):
Yep, yeah, you cad be forgiven. It's what you'r like,
third show ever or something like that.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
So come up.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Well, Like I said, while I have to spitute everyone
follow him on a New Discourses.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Okay, go ahead and wind it down.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Do follow doctor James Lindsay on New Discourses. You can
follow him on x.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
He says what other people are not willing to say,
and it's always right.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
I appreciate you tuning in.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
When we come back from break, we're going to have
that brave thirteen year old from jeff Co Schools who
wasn't allowed to read her pro life poem. She's going
to read it for all of you and we'll check
in with her mom.
Speaker 7 (17:59):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Welcome back everyone to the Dan Kaplis Show. This is
Aaron Lee filling in today. And I forgot to mention
during the last segment that if you want to hear
more from doctor James Lindsay.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Isn't he the coolest? He will be back at.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
The Rocky Mountain Voice Freedom Festival, which is June twenty
sixth and twenty seventh.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
I'm also speaking.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
At that major event, so many great speakers on the
twenty sixth. Doctor James Lindsay is on the twenty seventh,
and I'm told by Heidi Ganall that our next guest
will also be at the R and B Freedom Festival,
so hope to see you all there. Next up on
the line is the mother of this. You've probably seen
it because it has like three million views just on
(18:41):
x alone on libs of TikTok, the thirteen year old
at Drake Middle School who was forbidden from reading her
beautiful pro life poem. I'm joined now by her mom,
Jackie Caskey. Jackie, Welcome to the dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 9 (18:54):
Oh thank you, Aaron. How are you.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
I'm doing great. I'm You're in a whirlwind right now.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I'm sure I've been in the same kind of whirlwind
as you've been before you holding.
Speaker 9 (19:04):
On, holding on. We did not expect us at all,
but here we are.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
The Lord works in mysterious ways. I'm so glad that
your girl's story got out there.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
How proud are you of her?
Speaker 9 (19:16):
I'm very proud. I'm not surprised, but I'm very proud.
She's always been a feisty little one, and so when
they told her she couldn't read, she wanted to do
something to fight back.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
We love the feisty ones.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
For those who have seen the viral posts, I assume
most people have.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
But can you just tell our listeners. What happened in
the jeff Co School District.
Speaker 9 (19:36):
Well, they were assigned to write a slam home and
they were given a long list of questions to kind
of prompt them into what they wanted to write about.
And it was something they were supposed to be passionate
about and how they can change the world. And so
Noel chose that she wanted to write about life and
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choosing life.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Wow, beautiful, and they told her she couldn't read it
right like, she followed all of the prompts in the assignment.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
But then her teacher told her that it was what controversial?
Speaker 10 (20:12):
Yeah, so she did.
Speaker 9 (20:13):
She met all the criteria, she did all the research,
she included everything in the poem that was assigned. And
then when it came time to hand it in, the poem,
she handed it in and then the teacher said, Nope,
you cannot read this to the class. You are not
allowed to present. It is too controversial, it'll make people
feel unsafe, and it's too politically charged.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Jefferson County School District. Everyone I say all the time, Jackie,
every time I'm on the show, I say that they
are the worst school district in America. And I live
in Pooter, which is pretty bad. So that's really saying
something they really are. Is it true that not only
did they deny your girl the ability to read her poem,
which followed all the guidelines because it was pro life,
but they also tried to make her sit out and
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not even be able to participate with classmates.
Speaker 9 (21:01):
That is true. So after I had a conversation with
them via phone call, they then went to Noel, who
was in class, and told her that she was not
going to be able to present, and that even she
was not even allowed to listen to other people's presentations.
They wanted her to sit in the hallway during that time,
(21:23):
and so Noel pushed back and said, really, you're going
to make me not listen to everybody else's presentations. Then
they kind of acquissessed and said, well, no, you can listen,
but you cannot read your poem. You cannot say anything.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Wow, punishing her for taking a stance that contradicts the
school district stance.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
That's wild.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
I mean, my number one motto is always get your
kids out of public schools. And I referenced how Jeff
go's the worst all the time nine percent of the time.
I really believe you should get your kids out of
public schools, that they're not capable of being salt and
light in such a dark system, and that you know,
the pressure shouldn't be on their shoulders. But I think
you are a shining exception, like you are the one
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percent of parents who has raised kids who are capable
of being salt and light in the school district. What's
the secret, Sauce, How have you raised such great kids?
And who can withstand jeffco.
Speaker 9 (22:20):
I mean, I don't know. I think there's a lot
of grace in it. But we talk a lot with
our kids. We ask them what are they doing in class? Anything,
anytime anything arises. Noel has always been the one to
come to me and be like, this weird thing happened,
and that's when you know, I helped her handle that.
And this one in particular was just completely across the line,
(22:43):
and so we tried to raise flags about it. We escalated,
and when they still kind of when they still said, nope,
she can't read it. That's actually in the meeting with them.
It's kind of funny. The assistant principle suggested, why don't
you read it to family or maybe people that would
want to hear it, and so we said, you know
what we're going to do.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
We ever three million views just on lives of TikTok
on x alone, that it has reached so many more
people than you probably ever thought imaginable. And I understand
this is a personal issue for your family.
Speaker 9 (23:20):
This is I mean. And I even during the meeting,
said you guys want to know why this is so personal.
They didn't want to hear the story. But the reason
is so personal that we just really believed that people
should choose life even in hard situations is because I
am a baby who came from a hard situation. My
mom was fourteen when she had me, and I am
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so thankful that she chose life for me. And she
realized very you know, early on in her pregnancy that
she was not going to have the skill to raise me,
and so she put me up for adoption once I
was born.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Wow, I actually have a similar story that my mom
was twenty but nineteen eighties late term abortion law prevented
her from getting the late term abortion.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
That she sought.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
So I too appreciate when people advocate for life, because
being unwanted doesn't make us any less worthy of living.
And I think that your daughter really just captured that
in her poem. And we're going to go to break
here about three minutes. When we come back, I want
to hear from her. I want people to actually hear
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the poem. But I love what you were talking about,
you know, having conversations with your kids, you know, asking
them what happened at school, encouraging them to talk to you.
Was it a hard decision to keep your kids and
the jeff especially as these controversies just keep happening in
jeff Co. Was it hard for you to keep them
in the public school system.
Speaker 9 (24:48):
Absolutely. I mean, like you said, it's a battlefield out there.
It's a spiritual dark, spiritually dark place. And you know,
we never took this decision light and we're always willing
to reassess at all times. But we talk often with
our kids about how it is a spiritual dark place
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and that you guys need to be realized that and
be on guard and be ready to stand up when
the time comes. And I'm so proud Noel that when
that time came, she had the ability to stand up
to her teacher and say, you know what, this is
not fair because I see what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah, she's the kind of voice that can stand up
for her classmates too.
Speaker 9 (25:35):
Absolutely, And it's very interesting because even when they said
that she wasn't going to read she wasn't able to
read the poem. Some of her friends kind of joined
arms with her and they all wore t shirts with
the name of the poem and the verse reference on
them the day that they were also to present, and
(25:57):
so she had a lot of kids kind of coming
alongside her, and even kids who saw the shirts were like,
we want one too. So it was very interesting that
the only pushback they received was from adults. No kids
made fun of them, no kids pushed back on them.
It was all the adults.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Wow, she's an example of how courage is contagious. It
takes one kid to just stand up and do the
right thing, and just watch how everyone stands up and
follows in her shoes.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
That's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Any we've just got a few seconds, But any advice
for parents that you know have their kids still in
the public schools. You're one of the few who's been
able to navigate it.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
You know, be.
Speaker 9 (26:37):
Curious, ask your kids what's going on. Look through their
google's classroom, see the articles that they're they're receiving. Ask
what topics they're talking about in class. You just have
to be curious and just kind of poke around.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
That's so good. Pay attention.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Well, thank you Jackiet for raising such an amazing girl.
Thank you for joining us on the Dan Kaplis Show.
When we come back, we're going to hear from Noel herself.
You're listening to the Dan Caplis Show. This is Aaronle
filling in on six thirty K how.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Welcome back to the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
This is Aaron Lee filling in. I am joined next
by the brave thirteen year old from Drake Middle School.
Know well who I hear is sweet on the outside
but spicy and we like them that way. I'm that
way to know. Well, welcome to the Dan Kapli Show.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Thanks for joining me today.
Speaker 10 (27:28):
Y, thank you so much for letting me be on
here be able to talk with you.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Yes, thank you for giving us hope. You remind the
adults like me who fight in the trenches that the
kids are all right, that you are going to be okay.
And what better way to round out this show than
to just bless listeners with your beautiful poem about the
sanctity of life? Would you be willing to read it
for us?
Speaker 9 (27:52):
Of course?
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Okay.
Speaker 10 (27:55):
A life is the life, no matter how small. Seventy
three million people have a killed in one year, and
we would be killed again this year, if not more.
When they are completely innocent humans, they never get to
see the light of day before they are cast away.
They do nothing wrong except exists, and we're dismissed. People
say woman in health care, but never think how unfair
they kill a baby for simply being there. The Word
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of God says, you knit me together in my mother's roomb.
How come we never listen to this and try to
send them to a tomb. I'm fearfully wonderfully made. Your
works are wonderful, His works are wonderful and beautiful. A
person is a person, no matter how small. A life
is a life, no matter how small. We often forget
this important detail. This detail could save a life. A
few percent of babies who weren't intended have died because
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of this a why do people kill these innocent babies?
Speaker 5 (28:41):
With the poll?
Speaker 10 (28:42):
Why do people say babies in the womb are a mistake?
A thing that needs do gotten rid of Why why
when you ask someone is murdered bad? They say, yes,
of course, But how come when you say murdering isn't
babies is bad? They shame you. They say, woman writes
in healthcare, but what about the baby's rights? That's what's unfair.
From the moment they are created, they're a human person,
They're created in God's image. People say woman writes and
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healthcare they say it's just a clump of sells, but
no one dwells. And the fact that a baby still
has a heartbeat at six weeks boom boom, boom boom.
I think your parents still love a mother has for
her baby because maybe well we let them have a
chance to live, and that leve will growth destruction. This
mad dread one of people comprehended that this needs to
come to an end. A life and the life no
matter how small.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Wow, so good.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Where did you ever think, in a million years knowel
that you would have an audience of millions and millions
of people listening to that.
Speaker 10 (29:36):
I would never believe it. It's crazy how God moves.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I think you're well equipped to handle the pressure. Where
does your courage come from?
Speaker 10 (29:48):
Well, a big influence in my life is my mom.
She's still brave and courageous.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
I can tell she's raised a really, really good girl. Well,
thank you. Thank you for being brave in school.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Thank you forgiving encouraged to your friends to stand up
alongside you. I love to hear that everyone your age
was with you on this facing the adults. I so
appreciate your bravery and your stance on such an important issue.
Keep speaking out, Well, you keep going. You promised to
keep going.
Speaker 10 (30:17):
Yes, I will, I promise.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Thank you so much, Noel for joining me on the
Dan Kapla show.
Speaker 10 (30:24):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Now that about does it for us, But I want
to thank everyone for listening and remind everyone that you
can listen to the gubernatorial debate tonight at Colorado Christian
University's website.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
There will be a live stream. Our guy Ryan will
be there.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I'm sure there'll be plenty of updates tomorrow, and I
assume Dan's going to call in right for a recap.
Speaker 8 (30:45):
Well, we'll see. I know that Tricia Calvaresey and I
are going to be there covering it live on site
because hashtag where news Happens. Ryan Schirling Live you can
listen locally in the Denver market six point thirty k
HOW mornings six am to ten am, and if you
live in Fort Collins or Pueblo, you can listen on
the iHeartRadio app. So yes, I will be conducting hopefully
post debate interviews with both Representative Scott Bonhams and Senator
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Barb Kirkmeyer to.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Be featured on the morning program tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (31:11):
But to your point, yeah, Unfortunately, like I said, really disappointing.
It will not be televised live because CBS Colorado four
and she's aces Sean boy. You're gonna be one of
the three moderators along with Vince Bizdeck of The Gazette
and Michael Brown of KOA for the two debate participants,
and there will be a one empty podium that was
reserved for one Victor Marx, who decided that Michael Brown
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was too mean to him, so he didn't want to go.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
He took his ball and he went home.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
He would love to, but there's a chance of rain.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Victor Marx would love to debate bute.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Barb, Oh, Well, thank you for being there to cover it.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
It's important that we hear from our candidates. We need
to hear what their plan is.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
You heard doctor James Lindsay talk about the communist Marx's takeover.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
We need to understand what the plan is to fix it.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
And let me remind people, like we said earlier in
the show, the cavalry isn't coming. No one savior is
going to come in in the form of a governor
and fix this thing.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
We have to do it ourselves.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
We are the cavalry.
Speaker 8 (32:06):
We are the cabin Doctor James lindsay, your's truly our
audience out there.
Speaker 7 (32:10):
You fight.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
I mean, it's it's.
Speaker 8 (32:12):
Shocking what can happen when people put their heads together,
come together. They damn the torpedoes like you and Jennifer say,
did they get this ballot measure across the finish line?
It'll be on the ballot in November, all three of
these And Aaron was that was no easy feat and
you guys turn that around.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
It was remarkable, a miracle. Yeah, it really was.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
I say it all the biggest ever.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
The biggest ever.
Speaker 8 (32:35):
They're saying, these are the three greatest petition measures ever
put together. If you could get I think President Trump
would endorse all three of them. Could you get him
to do that?
Speaker 4 (32:44):
I hope.
Speaker 8 (32:45):
So, I mean, why wouldn't you get an audience to
the president that he feels very strongly about these two
I believe.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I hope it reaches him. Although we got doctor James
lindsay so like me, that's not right.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
That's no small deal itself, kind of.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
A big deal. But you bring up a good point.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Please tell everyone you know vote yes, yes, yes, these
are common sense measures. Protect girl sports. No children are
for sale. Stop these surgeries on kids. It's really common
sense stuff. All you have to do is vote yes.
And I want to thank everyone for listening today. Thank
you to Dan for entrusting me with this incredible program.
I'm actually getting nice text I.
Speaker 8 (33:18):
Can I say these rave reviews just keep coming in.
How about this one? Really enjoying today's show. Capitalist might
be looking for a new job. Keep up the good work,
Aaron Lee.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
I kind of feel like that might be my mom.
Just kidding.
Speaker 8 (33:30):
Text Dan, Wow, these hosts are so good my key
card might not work in the morning.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
I really, this is so much fun. I love coming in.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Yeah, well we love having.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
You filling in. So he's gone for a few more weeks,
but Dan will be back. Don't worry and As I
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome everyone to The Dan Caplis Show. This is Aaron
Lee filling in today. Remember you can text me if
Dan at five seven, seven thirty nine got someone asking
here where to go to live stream the governor debate tonight,
you can go to the Colorado Christian University website. It
will be live streamed there. And then also, FYI, Ryan,
I got a text. It says Dan, I have to
say your show has the best backup post lineup of
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any show I've ever listened to.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
So you go.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
I'll take it. Yeah, so the last texts coming.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
It makes my job a lot easier with the likes
of you.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Erin.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Oh man, you thought the first hour was good, Get
ready for this because our next guest is probably the
coolest person on earth.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Is kind of a big deal.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
How lucky that the state of Colorado that he's paying
attention and supporting our grassroots efforts here.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Dottor James Lindsay.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
He is a best selling author many times over, the
brilliant mind behind new discourses, and everyone's favorite X account,
Doctor James Lindsay. Thank you for joining me on the
Dan Kapla show.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Hey erin great to hear it from you.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yes, hey, first question, after we successfully surprised you with
the Protect Kids Colorado Champion Trophy, did you find the
perfect place to prominently display your prestigious major award.
Speaker 6 (01:25):
It is right next to me, as a matter of fact,
on the bookshelf here in my office, staring me down
so that I can never ever forget the obligation that
I have to help the grassroots of Colorado and the
rest of the United States.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
You were like, I got a major award and you were.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Looking at the statues while I was putting them mount
and I'm so glad I pulled that one over on you.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
Well, I kind of reflected on that. I was looking
down the list of them, like, you know, I got
down like three of them, and I thought to myself,
you know, maybe I should stop looking at these, and
I did, and it just kind of worked out.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Because you're in tuition is always right?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
For anyone who doesn't follow James Lindsay, He's always right.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
So I'm sorry to ask.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
You this again every time you come out here to Colorado,
I ask you to explain this, but different set of listeners.
So can you just help our listeners understand what the
heck happened here in Colorado? What is this philosophical route
that has captured Colorado.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
Well, I hate to use a big word right off
the bat, but what's captured Colorado is what's haunting the
rest of the United States, And basically it's Marxism. Our
society is now facing its turned fight off Marxism. In
some states got targeted earlier and more vigorously. Obviously we
know about California, and we can look at the Pacific
(02:44):
Northwest and Washington and Oregon. But Colorado got targeted pretty
vigorously a decade or two ago, and more or less
got flipped to the point where now you have openly
communist members of your state legislature ds A activity happening
even in the legislature, to where the state is in
a lot of trouble. But a lot of people don't
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understand that this. You know, everything is a conflict, everything
is a presser versus oppressed, and it's always somehow the
powerful group is the problem is ultimately just Marxism taking
new forms and it's attacking Colorado.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
That was actually my next question. You touched on it.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
But what's the Democratic Socialist of America's role in this
capture here?
Speaker 5 (03:26):
I mean they're a major vehicle.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
They're probably one of the larger and more organized national
level organizations that the acts as a vehicle for Marxism.
They claim that they are not specifically Marxist. I don't
believe them personally, but they claim that they are not,
but that they have a Marxist wing that they tolerate
and allow to be part of what they do. I
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think that this is a bit of smoke and mirrors.
I think the entire thing runs a Marxist operating system,
which is that a presser versus oppressed. We're going to
basically run a revolution to see the means of control
of society. It used to be the means of production
in a capitalist sense, and that's what the Marxist wing.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Would care about.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
But this is a large national organization that has lots
of money, lots of coordinations, So this is very important
for a state like Colorado, which.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Is not a gigantic state.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
You've got about four million voters there in Colorado, not
the biggest state in the Union. But if they need
something done, all of a sudden, all of those DSA
chapters from all over the country will unify. This was
very prominent in the election of Mayor z Aaron Mandami
in New York City. He is a Democratic Socialist, he
is part of the DSA, and when he was running
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his campaign, you had people showing up from all over
the country DSA members supporting him online and showing up
in person in New York City to volunteer and get
out for him. So it creates a gigantic nationwide pool
of resources by which they can achieve political agendas even
in small local places like cities or counties or even states.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
So they appear bigger than they are, then right, they.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Know they are bigger than they appear. Is it's the
other way around.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
That's terrifying, and they're so flagrant about it. Here, how
does Colorado size up against all the other communist states?
I know, you're funny, You're like, there's something about the
sea word, California, Chicago, Colorado, it's all communists. How do
we size up against these other communist states? Are we
the craziest or are we just the one that went
downhill the fastest.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
I think you're the one that went downhill the fastest,
but in a sense you're you're one of the worst,
and maybe the worst, not in overall craziness of policy.
I think that it's very likely that California and New
York still eclipse you. The Pacific Northwest probably is also
beyond what Colorado is actually putting forward. But the fact
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is that nobody believes Colorado has gone down this road.
And that's really important because when we look at these
states like Oregon or California, or New York or Connecticut
or Illinois, we kind of have this sense, or even Minnesota,
we have this sense that something very far left has happened,
and therefore people kind of orient in that regard. But
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when you tell people that Colorado has gone crazy, they
don't believe you, so they won't help, they won't get involved.
They're like, no, no, no, that's Colorado. It's a mountain state.
It's a free state.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
A lot of.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
Libertarians maybe, but it's a good, solid, you know, ranching
conservative state and it's simply not so. When you have
this combination of the state that's gone very very wacky,
very fast. I mean, Colorado does put forth some of
the least constitutional, most communist policies of any of the
states that I've seen. And then you mix that with
the fact that nobody believes that this is happening because
(06:34):
it's just one of these you know, Western you know
Mid America states. You have a big problem on your
hands that you can't get the kind of help or
backup or resources that you need because nobody believes it's happening.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yes, I have certainly experienced that. I know you've been
in the room with me. I've experienced that people don't
understand how bad it is. So leads me to my
next question. When everyone else has forsaken blue states like ours,
you've leaned into it, You've supported us, you were the
only big influencer to support our ballot measures. Why does
our fight in Colorado matter everywhere else?
Speaker 6 (07:09):
Well, I mean there's a lot of reasons. Number one
is I've kind of I've never formally made this happen.
If somebody wants to take it and run with it,
I'm not going to be upset, but I always wanted
to kind of start something I wanted to call the
fifty Stars initiative, which would be that we're going to
try to keep all fifty stars on the flag. Basically
all fifty states are operating according to American principles, that
we don't give up on any state, Colorado, California, you
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name it.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
We don't give up on these states.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
And that you know, a lot of times the Republican
Party does give up on these states. They have to triage,
they don't have the money to reach out to, you know,
losing political battles the way that they maybe could. And
I think that what we need is stronger grassroots efforts
in these states. I don't want to see us give
up on any state. But at the same time, there's
something about, you know, Colorado fell very quickly, but there's
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something about the idea of Colorado pushing back, pushing this
back out of its state that would be incredibly moralizing
to the rest of the country to see that this
fight can win, that we can fight back against the
radical left and take back a state or even take
back counties, take back municipalities, and push this back out
of our communities. That this isn't a lost cause that
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what goes left doesn't have to stay that way. I
think it would be very very moralizing to your run
of the mill Americans across the country, and it would be
very demoralizing to the radical left.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
And they're going to dump a ton of resources in.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
They're going to get very upset, They're going to throw
a huge fit if they lose ground. And Colorado is
actually because it is actually a solidly middle America, you know,
central plains, mountain state. There are a lot of good
people there, a lot of very solid, very you know,
independent minded, you know, rugged individual type people there. It
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does have this opportunity to kind of shake off the
cobwebs and get active and to push this back out
and to send that message to the United States of
America right from the very center of the country and
say look, no, we're not beholden to the left. We
can fight this back. And so Colorado is a great
state to get you know, involved in. Plus, you know,
how bad is it to have to visit the Rockies
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every now and then because I'm helping out.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
You're welcome back anytime.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Thank you for believing in us when everyone else has
forsaken us.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Hang around.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
We're going to go to commercial break, but when we
come back, we're going to talk about how we can
fix Colorado.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
You're listening to the Dankplis Show. This is Aaron Lee.
Speaker 7 (09:31):
And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Welcome back to the Dan Kaplis Show. This is Aaronlee
filling in today. I'm getting a lot of good texts
about James Lindsay on the line. Someone's an excellent guest
regarding discussion about Colorado, communists and Marxist.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
I told you he's probably the coolest.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Person on earth, definitely the most knowledgeable about how Colorado
has been taken over by communists and Marxist. We're talking
with doctor James Lindsay. He is a brilliant mind behind
new discourses. If you don't already follow him, and I
assume you do, because he's got a huge following, you
really should because we have to understand the problem if
we are to fix it. Welcome back to the Dan
(10:08):
Kapla Show. James, thanks for joining me.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Thank you again.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Erin, so we talked about how Colorado has been taken over.
Now let's talk about what we can do to fix it. What,
in your professional opinion, can every day Coloraden's be doing
to take this beautiful state back.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
Well, I mean, first of all, what you guys have
done with these valid initiatives is a huge, huge, It's
beyond a first step. It's a huge first step is
past a first step. It is a huge strike to
remind people that Coloraden's can get involved. The hard part
for dealing with this is that it's all really slow,
it's all very insidious. It's all, you know, taking little
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tiny bites at a time to make a difference, and
it has to start with actually knowing what you're dealing with.
So one of the most important things people can do
is they can get educated enough of about this to
be able to recognize it when it's in their kids' schools,
when it's around them, when issues are being framed in
the suppressor versus oppressed manipulative dynamic. It's just a little bit,
(11:11):
it's not a huge lift, but you have to learn
a little bit about the basics of Marxist conflict theory
in order to understand what you're dealing with it, because
then you're going to engage it differently. The whole game
is to get you to fall into tricks and traps
to go along with things that you wouldn't otherwise agree with.
And when you can see it, first of all, you
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can do something about it. You can spot it, you
can say something about it, you can organize, you can
start a ballot initiative if you need to.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
And on the other hand, you can do.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
The most important thing of all, which is to sit
down and educate your kids. To debrief with your kids
after they go to school. Find out what they're learning,
find out how they're learning it, and you know, get in,
get in the weeds with them and take a part
of the worldview that's being injected into them through their schools.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Do you have any not to put you on the spot,
but any resource as people can use with their kids
to help them deprogram Like, my kids listen to new discourses.
But how can we be deprogramming our kids?
Speaker 6 (12:08):
Well, I don't have a lot of resources directly geared
at kids. I have a hard time talking to college
graduates and bringing it down. But if if your kids
can listen to new discourses, A lot of kids can
listen to new discourses, but there are a lot of
people start looking for resources out there to you know,
use the search engines, get on social media and see
who's actually talking about this in the education space, in particular,
(12:31):
if you want to find out how to help your kids.
I know that Preger You has made a lot of
really great materials that point in this direction that I've
seen some of it and would recommend uh. So, you know,
get out there and look for it, but start with
Preger You if if you, if you don't know, or
else to look, because they've made very specifically tailored materials
to deal with this that that are are age appropriate
(12:52):
and can help your kids engage.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I'll never forget the first time I met you a
couple of years ago, you and me that Tucker Carlson
was the woke right shifting gears a little bit, and
I'm just along with Canvas and others. You just have
this a brilliant ability to see and the guts to
say things before everyone else does. I think a lot
of people don't understand the woke right. Can you help
listeners just understand what that means and how you spotted it?
Speaker 6 (13:19):
Well, the way I spotted it's probably easier to communicate.
It's I have this knack where you know, I'm very
good at noticing patterns. You introduced me as doctor James Lindsay,
my doctorate, my PhD. I'm not a medical doctor. My
doctorate is in mathematics, and in particular, the branch of
mathematics that I specialized in is invested very deeply in
(13:41):
pattern recognition and description. So when something doesn't fit, so like,
let's say it's Tucker Carlson's doing his show and he
says what he says every night, and he says, you
know this thing and that's conservative, and he says this
thing that's conservative. Then he says something about Elizabeth Warren's
economic policies, and that really just doesn't fit. It sticks
out to me more than it sticks out to most people.
(14:01):
I happen to have a pretty good memory for this
kind of thing. So when it starts to be the
third or the fourth or the fifth thing that they
say that doesn't fit, but that fits a different pattern
that stands out.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
I don't know that I'm brave enough.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
To say things or have the guts, like you said,
I might just be too stupid not to say them.
I'm not exactly sure, but I do tend to open
my mouth after I become confident that I'm seeing a
pattern that doesn't square with the pattern that I should
be seeing. And so I did this with this so
called woke right. The woke right's actually very simple. Another
(14:34):
way you could phrase it is socially conservative socialists. They
believe most of the same things the left does. They
act the same way that the left does, except that
they're socially conservative instead of socially liberal. So they're not
out there, you know, promoting all the pro sexual stuff.
They're not out there manipulating about you know, racial minorities. Instead,
(14:54):
they're going the other direction. They're very socially conservative. They
promote you know, what they can call a traditionalist lifestyle
in a very kind of extreme way, and they tend
to be very pro white people as opposed to pro
racial minority and set up that conflict. But again, remember
I said, you have to understand how Marxism works to
set up conflicts. They set up a conflict between the races,
(15:17):
rather than trying to resolve the conflict by saying that,
you know, we should really not be looking at race
the way that you know, identity politicians do. So it's
people that are sympathetic to Marxist analysis, even though they're
conservatives or right wing or it's people who use the
critical theory method for right wing causes. Critical theory means
(15:38):
that you picture. All you do is you point out
where something's not perfect, over and over and over again
in order to say that you're more that you have
a better analysis of it than anybody else.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
That's all it means. It doesn't have to be more
complicated than that.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
So when they say, you know, President Trump isn't you know,
delivering on all of his promises, Therefore he changed, Therefore
he's captured by nefarious powers or Benjamin Nettan Yao who
in Israel controls him. They're just doing a conspiracy theory,
and they're they're asserting this based on the fact that
President Trump is doing the best he can in reality,
not in a perfect world where he can snap his
(16:11):
fingers and do anything he wants. So that's the critical theory.
He's doing it in reality, but since it's not perfect,
it's bad. Therefore he's the part of a conspiracy. That's
the conspiracy theory or the critical theory mindset. And so
people on the right wing can use this mindset too,
and that's the woke.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Right, that makes sense. I'm glad you touched on critical theory.
I encourage everyone to read James's book, Queering of the
American Child that explains in detail critical theory and how
it's being applied to our children. I so appreciate you
taking time out of your busy schedule to join us
to support us here in Colorado. It means the world
to have someone who's a champion, the PKC champion from
(16:49):
a major award outside of Colorado, paying attention and helping.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Us to take back this beautiful state.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Thank you for your time, doctor James Lindsay, Yeah, thank
you so much.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
It is a beautiful state and I love the state
and I'm in your corner as long as you need me.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Thank you so much. All Right, everyone, you're listening to
the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
This is Aaron Lee. We'll be right back after this break.
Oh I ended too soon?
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Oh man, I could have had thirty more seconds with
doctor James Lindsay.
Speaker 8 (17:18):
Yep, yeah, you cad be forgiven. It's what you'r like,
third show ever or something like that.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
So come up.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Well, Like I said, while I have to spitute everyone
follow him on a New Discourses.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Okay, go ahead and wind it down.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Do follow doctor James Lindsay on New Discourses. You can
follow him on x.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
He says what other people are not willing to say,
and it's always right.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
I appreciate you tuning in.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
When we come back from break, we're going to have
that brave thirteen year old from jeff Co Schools who
wasn't allowed to read her pro life poem. She's going
to read it for all of you and we'll check
in with her mom.
Speaker 7 (17:59):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Welcome back everyone to the Dan Kaplis Show. This is
Aaron Lee filling in today. And I forgot to mention
during the last segment that if you want to hear
more from doctor James Lindsay.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Isn't he the coolest? He will be back at.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
The Rocky Mountain Voice Freedom Festival, which is June twenty
sixth and twenty seventh.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
I'm also speaking.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
At that major event, so many great speakers on the
twenty sixth. Doctor James Lindsay is on the twenty seventh,
and I'm told by Heidi Ganall that our next guest
will also be at the R and B Freedom Festival,
so hope to see you all there. Next up on
the line is the mother of this. You've probably seen
it because it has like three million views just on
(18:41):
x alone on libs of TikTok, the thirteen year old
at Drake Middle School who was forbidden from reading her
beautiful pro life poem. I'm joined now by her mom,
Jackie Caskey. Jackie, Welcome to the dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 9 (18:54):
Oh thank you, Aaron. How are you.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
I'm doing great. I'm You're in a whirlwind right now.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I'm sure I've been in the same kind of whirlwind
as you've been before you holding.
Speaker 9 (19:04):
On, holding on. We did not expect us at all,
but here we are.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
The Lord works in mysterious ways. I'm so glad that
your girl's story got out there.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
How proud are you of her?
Speaker 9 (19:16):
I'm very proud. I'm not surprised, but I'm very proud.
She's always been a feisty little one, and so when
they told her she couldn't read, she wanted to do
something to fight back.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
We love the feisty ones.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
For those who have seen the viral posts, I assume
most people have.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
But can you just tell our listeners. What happened in
the jeff Co School District.
Speaker 9 (19:36):
Well, they were assigned to write a slam home and
they were given a long list of questions to kind
of prompt them into what they wanted to write about.
And it was something they were supposed to be passionate
about and how they can change the world. And so
Noel chose that she wanted to write about life and
(19:58):
choosing life.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Wow, beautiful, and they told her she couldn't read it
right like, she followed all of the prompts in the assignment.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
But then her teacher told her that it was what controversial?
Speaker 10 (20:12):
Yeah, so she did.
Speaker 9 (20:13):
She met all the criteria, she did all the research,
she included everything in the poem that was assigned. And
then when it came time to hand it in, the poem,
she handed it in and then the teacher said, Nope,
you cannot read this to the class. You are not
allowed to present. It is too controversial, it'll make people
feel unsafe, and it's too politically charged.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Jefferson County School District. Everyone I say all the time, Jackie,
every time I'm on the show, I say that they
are the worst school district in America. And I live
in Pooter, which is pretty bad. So that's really saying
something they really are. Is it true that not only
did they deny your girl the ability to read her poem,
which followed all the guidelines because it was pro life,
but they also tried to make her sit out and
(20:57):
not even be able to participate with classmates.
Speaker 9 (21:01):
That is true. So after I had a conversation with
them via phone call, they then went to Noel, who
was in class, and told her that she was not
going to be able to present, and that even she
was not even allowed to listen to other people's presentations.
They wanted her to sit in the hallway during that time,
(21:23):
and so Noel pushed back and said, really, you're going
to make me not listen to everybody else's presentations. Then
they kind of acquissessed and said, well, no, you can listen,
but you cannot read your poem. You cannot say anything.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Wow, punishing her for taking a stance that contradicts the
school district stance.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
That's wild.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
I mean, my number one motto is always get your
kids out of public schools. And I referenced how Jeff
go's the worst all the time nine percent of the time.
I really believe you should get your kids out of
public schools, that they're not capable of being salt and
light in such a dark system, and that you know,
the pressure shouldn't be on their shoulders. But I think
you are a shining exception, like you are the one
(22:07):
percent of parents who has raised kids who are capable
of being salt and light in the school district. What's
the secret, Sauce, How have you raised such great kids?
And who can withstand jeffco.
Speaker 9 (22:20):
I mean, I don't know. I think there's a lot
of grace in it. But we talk a lot with
our kids. We ask them what are they doing in class? Anything,
anytime anything arises. Noel has always been the one to
come to me and be like, this weird thing happened,
and that's when you know, I helped her handle that.
And this one in particular was just completely across the line,
(22:43):
and so we tried to raise flags about it. We escalated,
and when they still kind of when they still said, nope,
she can't read it. That's actually in the meeting with them.
It's kind of funny. The assistant principle suggested, why don't
you read it to family or maybe people that would
want to hear it, and so we said, you know
what we're going to do.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
We ever three million views just on lives of TikTok
on x alone, that it has reached so many more
people than you probably ever thought imaginable. And I understand
this is a personal issue for your family.
Speaker 9 (23:20):
This is I mean. And I even during the meeting,
said you guys want to know why this is so personal.
They didn't want to hear the story. But the reason
is so personal that we just really believed that people
should choose life even in hard situations is because I
am a baby who came from a hard situation. My
mom was fourteen when she had me, and I am
(23:43):
so thankful that she chose life for me. And she
realized very you know, early on in her pregnancy that
she was not going to have the skill to raise me,
and so she put me up for adoption once I
was born.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Wow, I actually have a similar story that my mom
was twenty but nineteen eighties late term abortion law prevented
her from getting the late term abortion.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
That she sought.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
So I too appreciate when people advocate for life, because
being unwanted doesn't make us any less worthy of living.
And I think that your daughter really just captured that
in her poem. And we're going to go to break
here about three minutes. When we come back, I want
to hear from her. I want people to actually hear
(24:27):
the poem. But I love what you were talking about,
you know, having conversations with your kids, you know, asking
them what happened at school, encouraging them to talk to you.
Was it a hard decision to keep your kids and
the jeff especially as these controversies just keep happening in
jeff Co. Was it hard for you to keep them
in the public school system.
Speaker 9 (24:48):
Absolutely. I mean, like you said, it's a battlefield out there.
It's a spiritual dark, spiritually dark place. And you know,
we never took this decision light and we're always willing
to reassess at all times. But we talk often with
our kids about how it is a spiritual dark place
(25:10):
and that you guys need to be realized that and
be on guard and be ready to stand up when
the time comes. And I'm so proud Noel that when
that time came, she had the ability to stand up
to her teacher and say, you know what, this is
not fair because I see what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah, she's the kind of voice that can stand up
for her classmates too.
Speaker 9 (25:35):
Absolutely, And it's very interesting because even when they said
that she wasn't going to read she wasn't able to
read the poem. Some of her friends kind of joined
arms with her and they all wore t shirts with
the name of the poem and the verse reference on
them the day that they were also to present, and
(25:57):
so she had a lot of kids kind of coming
alongside her, and even kids who saw the shirts were like,
we want one too. So it was very interesting that
the only pushback they received was from adults. No kids
made fun of them, no kids pushed back on them.
It was all the adults.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Wow, she's an example of how courage is contagious. It
takes one kid to just stand up and do the
right thing, and just watch how everyone stands up and
follows in her shoes.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
That's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Any we've just got a few seconds, But any advice
for parents that you know have their kids still in
the public schools. You're one of the few who's been
able to navigate it.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
You know, be.
Speaker 9 (26:37):
Curious, ask your kids what's going on. Look through their
google's classroom, see the articles that they're they're receiving. Ask
what topics they're talking about in class. You just have
to be curious and just kind of poke around.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
That's so good. Pay attention.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Well, thank you Jackiet for raising such an amazing girl.
Thank you for joining us on the Dan Kaplis Show.
When we come back, we're going to hear from Noel herself.
You're listening to the Dan Caplis Show. This is Aaronle
filling in on six thirty K how.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Welcome back to the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
This is Aaron Lee filling in. I am joined next
by the brave thirteen year old from Drake Middle School.
Know well who I hear is sweet on the outside
but spicy and we like them that way. I'm that
way to know. Well, welcome to the Dan Kapli Show.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Thanks for joining me today.
Speaker 10 (27:28):
Y, thank you so much for letting me be on
here be able to talk with you.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Yes, thank you for giving us hope. You remind the
adults like me who fight in the trenches that the
kids are all right, that you are going to be okay.
And what better way to round out this show than
to just bless listeners with your beautiful poem about the
sanctity of life? Would you be willing to read it
for us?
Speaker 9 (27:52):
Of course?
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Okay.
Speaker 10 (27:55):
A life is the life, no matter how small. Seventy
three million people have a killed in one year, and
we would be killed again this year, if not more.
When they are completely innocent humans, they never get to
see the light of day before they are cast away.
They do nothing wrong except exists, and we're dismissed. People
say woman in health care, but never think how unfair
they kill a baby for simply being there. The Word
(28:17):
of God says, you knit me together in my mother's roomb.
How come we never listen to this and try to
send them to a tomb. I'm fearfully wonderfully made. Your
works are wonderful, His works are wonderful and beautiful. A
person is a person, no matter how small. A life
is a life, no matter how small. We often forget
this important detail. This detail could save a life. A
few percent of babies who weren't intended have died because
(28:39):
of this a why do people kill these innocent babies?
Speaker 5 (28:41):
With the poll?
Speaker 10 (28:42):
Why do people say babies in the womb are a mistake?
A thing that needs do gotten rid of Why why
when you ask someone is murdered bad? They say, yes,
of course, But how come when you say murdering isn't
babies is bad? They shame you. They say, woman writes
in healthcare, but what about the baby's rights? That's what's unfair.
From the moment they are created, they're a human person,
They're created in God's image. People say woman writes and
(29:04):
healthcare they say it's just a clump of sells, but
no one dwells. And the fact that a baby still
has a heartbeat at six weeks boom boom, boom boom.
I think your parents still love a mother has for
her baby because maybe well we let them have a
chance to live, and that leve will growth destruction. This
mad dread one of people comprehended that this needs to
come to an end. A life and the life no
matter how small.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Wow, so good.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Where did you ever think, in a million years knowel
that you would have an audience of millions and millions
of people listening to that.
Speaker 10 (29:36):
I would never believe it. It's crazy how God moves.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I think you're well equipped to handle the pressure. Where
does your courage come from?
Speaker 10 (29:48):
Well, a big influence in my life is my mom.
She's still brave and courageous.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
I can tell she's raised a really, really good girl. Well,
thank you. Thank you for being brave in school.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Thank you forgiving encouraged to your friends to stand up
alongside you. I love to hear that everyone your age
was with you on this facing the adults. I so
appreciate your bravery and your stance on such an important issue.
Keep speaking out, Well, you keep going. You promised to
keep going.
Speaker 10 (30:17):
Yes, I will, I promise.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Thank you so much, Noel for joining me on the
Dan Kapla show.
Speaker 10 (30:24):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Now that about does it for us, But I want
to thank everyone for listening and remind everyone that you
can listen to the gubernatorial debate tonight at Colorado Christian
University's website.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
There will be a live stream. Our guy Ryan will
be there.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I'm sure there'll be plenty of updates tomorrow, and I
assume Dan's going to call in right for a recap.
Speaker 8 (30:45):
Well, we'll see. I know that Tricia Calvaresey and I
are going to be there covering it live on site
because hashtag where news Happens. Ryan Schirling Live you can
listen locally in the Denver market six point thirty k
HOW mornings six am to ten am, and if you
live in Fort Collins or Pueblo, you can listen on
the iHeartRadio app. So yes, I will be conducting hopefully
post debate interviews with both Representative Scott Bonhams and Senator
(31:07):
Barb Kirkmeyer to.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Be featured on the morning program tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (31:11):
But to your point, yeah, Unfortunately, like I said, really disappointing.
It will not be televised live because CBS Colorado four
and she's aces Sean boy. You're gonna be one of
the three moderators along with Vince Bizdeck of The Gazette
and Michael Brown of KOA for the two debate participants,
and there will be a one empty podium that was
reserved for one Victor Marx, who decided that Michael Brown
(31:32):
was too mean to him, so he didn't want to go.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
He took his ball and he went home.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
He would love to, but there's a chance of rain.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Victor Marx would love to debate bute.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Barb, Oh, Well, thank you for being there to cover it.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
It's important that we hear from our candidates. We need
to hear what their plan is.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
You heard doctor James Lindsay talk about the communist Marx's takeover.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
We need to understand what the plan is to fix it.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
And let me remind people, like we said earlier in
the show, the cavalry isn't coming. No one savior is
going to come in in the form of a governor
and fix this thing.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
We have to do it ourselves.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
We are the cavalry.
Speaker 8 (32:06):
We are the cabin Doctor James lindsay, your's truly our
audience out there.
Speaker 7 (32:10):
You fight.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
I mean, it's it's.
Speaker 8 (32:12):
Shocking what can happen when people put their heads together,
come together. They damn the torpedoes like you and Jennifer say,
did they get this ballot measure across the finish line?
It'll be on the ballot in November, all three of
these And Aaron was that was no easy feat and
you guys turn that around.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
It was remarkable, a miracle. Yeah, it really was.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
I say it all the biggest ever.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
The biggest ever.
Speaker 8 (32:35):
They're saying, these are the three greatest petition measures ever
put together. If you could get I think President Trump
would endorse all three of them. Could you get him
to do that?
Speaker 4 (32:44):
I hope.
Speaker 8 (32:45):
So, I mean, why wouldn't you get an audience to
the president that he feels very strongly about these two
I believe.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I hope it reaches him. Although we got doctor James
lindsay so like me, that's not right.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
That's no small deal itself, kind of.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
A big deal. But you bring up a good point.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Please tell everyone you know vote yes, yes, yes, these
are common sense measures. Protect girl sports. No children are
for sale. Stop these surgeries on kids. It's really common
sense stuff. All you have to do is vote yes.
And I want to thank everyone for listening today. Thank
you to Dan for entrusting me with this incredible program.
I'm actually getting nice text I.
Speaker 8 (33:18):
Can I say these rave reviews just keep coming in.
How about this one? Really enjoying today's show. Capitalist might
be looking for a new job. Keep up the good work,
Aaron Lee.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
I kind of feel like that might be my mom.
Just kidding.
Speaker 8 (33:30):
Text Dan, Wow, these hosts are so good my key
card might not work in the morning.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
I really, this is so much fun. I love coming in.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Yeah, well we love having.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
You filling in. So he's gone for a few more weeks,
but Dan will be back. Don't worry and As I
always say everyone, the most impact you all can have
is in your own sphere of influence. So share that
Facebook post, talk to each other, listen, show up, be
bold for what you believe in. Like No Well from
eighth grade. You're listening to The Dan Capliss Show. I'm
(34:00):
Aaron Lee.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Thanks for tuning in today
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