July 6, 2026 • 36 mins
The US is at a tipping point, and it's not just about politics. The country is witnessing a growing divide between socialism and conservatism, with the Democratic Party embracing socialist ideals and the Republican Party seeing an opportunity to come back strong. This episode delves into the world of Colorado politics, where the mask has been dropped, and the choice is now between Republicans and socialists. The speaker discusses the recent primary election results, where Victor Marx is leading in the GOP gubernatorial primary, and the implications of this outcome.
The conversation touches on the idea that the Democratic Party's shift towards socialism is a game-changer for Colorado politics. The speaker highlights the opportunity for the GOP to capitalize on this trend and presents the case for why Malot Kiros, a self-proclaimed socialist, is a gift to the Republican Party. The discussion also explores the recent World Cup soccer game and the US President's involvement, which has sparked a national conversation about fairness and cheating.
The episode also features a caller who shares a personal experience with voting and raises questions about the accuracy of the voting system. The speaker engages in a thought-provoking discussion about the importance of fact-finding and the need for a bipartisan commission to investigate election concerns. Meanwhile, another caller praises Barb Kirkmeyer's debating skills and highlights her professional demeanor.
This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in Colorado politics, the Democratic Party's shift towards socialism, and the implications for the Republican Party. Join the conversation and hear the speaker's thoughts on how the GOP can take advantage of this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Kaplis, and welcome to today's online podcast
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hope you had a phenomenal in two hundred and fifty if.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
One thing I want to talk about during the show
is why wasn't there more of that? Right?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Why wasn't there more of that? And I'm still a
very young buck, but I can remember the bi centennial
in seventy six and it seemed like there was stuff
all over the place. I think I saw like one
two fifty flag or banner somewhere. Why wasn't there more
of it? I've got my answer, but would love to
hear yours. Three all three seven one three eight two
five five text d A N five seven seven three nine.
(00:47):
Of course a big World Cup soccer game US tonight.
It's six and we will be talking about today because
it's a great crossover issue, right.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I mean, I love sports. I'm guessing you do.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Two and we talked sports during breaks and everything else.
We tend to do it really well. When we get
into it on the show. But the point being we're
not a sports show, right, so we normally only do
it on air when it crosses over into other issues.
It transcends sports, and you know, this big World Cup first,
I think just the US advancing in the World Cup
does that is kind of a community togetherness kind of thing.
(01:19):
But here we definitely get a direct dose of the
mix when we.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Talk about President Trump stepping.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
In as I think he should have, and you know,
talking to the governing body.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Of this World Cup called FIFA, the governing.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Body, and just trying to make things right because the
fact is the US got one cheated. You know, I
don't claim to be the world soccer expert. I'm the
opposite of that. But even I know this that when
they threw that guy out of the game, the US
star in the last game, it's called a red card.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
When they threw him out of the game, it was
just dead wrong.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
I mean, no honest person could make the case that
guy should have been thrown out of the game. The
problem with getting thrown out of the game is and
you're automatically thrown out of the next one, which means tonight.
So I think the president was right to intervene, But
love to get your take on this. Three all three
seven one three eight two five five d an five
seven seven three nine. And as you probably know by now,
(02:14):
yesterday FIFA reversed itself and said, yeah, we're gonna let
that US guy serve his suspension.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
A year from now.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Well there won't be an well couple year from now,
so that's okay. So do you think the president was
right to intervene? We have some fun, fun sound on that.
And then you know, I've been very very very tied
up in this big, very very important wrong for death case,
and so I wasn't on air through you know, the
day after the election, et cetera. So this is the
(02:42):
first chance to really dig into that, and I've been
dying to do it with you because this is the
breakthrough the Colorado GOP needed. This is the break that
Conservatism in Colorado needed to get back in the game.
And obviously I'm talking about everybody's favorite comy, a lot Kiros,
you know, who not only beat Diana de gat and
(03:04):
to get as you know, i'd been in Congress in
CD one, which is Denver forever. But in fact I
think Moses. I think maybe she debated. No, I don't
think her first debate was against Moses. But yeah, she's
been there a very long time, very long time. Yes,
that's right. And so anyway a lot. Kiros not only
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beat her, she beat her like a drum. She beat
her by over thirteen points and is now this big
national figure.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
So Kiros is a gift to the Colorado GOP.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I think she's by extending her reach the way she is,
you know, and getting way in front of her skis,
she's a gift to the national GOP.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
But above all, she is exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
What the Colorado GOP needed to revive because right now,
think about it, with skilled candidates, with skilled candidates, so
we'll get to the current election results in a second.
With skilled candidates, you can stick each and every Democrat
with her. Do you agree with her or not? She
is a self admitted raw socialist.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Do you agree with her or not?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
And so I hope people are very very excited as
I am, by this opportunity for the GOP to come back.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
And you know, do I wish it was because GOP
had just.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Shined in so many great ways that everybody's saying, well,
you know, I really never gave that Colorado GOP enough credit.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
No, it's not it.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
You know, GOP is doing some good things, some good
candidates this and that. But know what it is is
the Democrats dropping the mask and they are just for
all out socialism right now. Now you have some Democratic
candidates who are not, but they're much much closer to
her than they are to sanity. And are they willing
at this point to separate themselves from her? I doubt
(04:53):
that very very much. So just to get a taste
this is a lot Caros after she won on MSNB,
I want to.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Quote something that you said during a speech in mid May,
obviously before your victory, about the basics of your ideology.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
I want to dig into it a little bit with you.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
You said, every single issue that I looked at where
we thought there was a problem that was persisting, we
already figured out the solution a long time ago. You
solve homelessness by giving people housing. You solve hunger by
giving people food. You solve healthcare by going to a
single payer system.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Now I'll just tell you my bias here.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I grew up in Canada, where like every other developed country,
has universal health care, but tell me about this, because
there are some who would paint you and other DSA
members as radicals. You're trying to make the argument that
this is common sense.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
It is common sense, right if you look at the data,
if you look at the research. It is cheaper to
house someone than to leave them homeless.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
It is cheaper to heal someone.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
And give them treatment that it is to let them
get sick and to deal with getting the last minute,
you know, excruciating treatment at the very end of their sickness.
It is cheaper to give our kid it's the highest
quality education and give them the opportunity to thrive with
the best opportunities in their futures.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
All of these things not only.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Pay for themselves, not only are pragmatic and economic.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
You know, it's just also the right thing to do.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
Right.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
It's like talking to a child.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
And this person is intelligent intellectually and has impressive degrees
and all that, but that doesn't make her wise. It's
like talking to a child. Oh yeah, you want to
sell home, listen, give them houses? Right, Well, well tell
me this then, male curios. Why has it never worked anywhere?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Why?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yes, this never worked anywhere. The reason it never works anywhere.
There are multiple reasons, but a big one is pretty
soon you run out of other people's money to be
giving these people houses and to just have government giving
away the healthcare. And I'm not talking about safety net,
of course, is any kind of functional society and any
(06:55):
kind of decent society, you have to have a safety
net for those who absolutely cannot survive, cannot manage in
capitalism for whatever reason, whether it's a serious illness, a
mental disability, a serious addiction, for that relatively small number
of people who literally can't manage.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
No, we are a humane people. We're not going to
have them die in the street.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
But that has to be reserved to a very very
narrow safety net because guess what, even that very narrow
safety net is very hard for a society to afford.
But if you get into what she's talking about, and
I know you already know this is just fun to
say it. If you get into what she's talking about,
the entire society collapses, the economic system collapses, the desire
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and motivation and will of people to go out and
work collapses.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
But that's what she wants, right, that's what she wants.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
She can't possibly be because again, She's not a dumb person,
So this isn't a matter of stupidity, because only a
profoundly stupid person with that what she just actually said
was true.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
But no, what these socialist.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Communists want is they want the collapse of society, more
power to the government. They get to determine who gets
what when, which is exactly what they want, right Yeah,
government ownership of the means of production, government control of
your life. Well, the beautiful thing now is that Democrats
she is now, make no mistake about it. She is
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the face of the Democratic Party in Colorado, and any
GOP candidate who does not run against her should have
their ticket pull.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
They shouldn't be a GOP candidate. She is the face.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
And I will tell you this right now. I hope
she's okay, but I wouldn't be surprised if she'd visited
an er over the weekend, because she must have been
kicking herself. She must have been kicking herself twenty four
to seven since election day because one thing that is inarguable,
absolutely profoundly true is that if she had run against
(08:59):
John Hickenlooper, she would have beat him like a drum.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
If she ran against Jean Hickenlooper.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
She would have beat him by five points, probably ten.
So she's sitting there right now, I'm thinking, Okay, now
I'm one of over five hundred.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I'm on Congress.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I mean, I could get on TV anytime I want
to by saying these squirrely things.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
But I could have been a US Senator and she
would have been.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
She would have beaten Nick Hickellooper ran against somebody most
people have never heard of, had virtually no money from
all accounts, didn't run any kind of campaign that permeated anywhere,
and she only finished five or six points behind Hickenlooper's
Julie Gonzalez Cairos would have cleaned his clock. And so
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another question is sticking the back of your mind. You know,
will she run next time for the Senate nomination in Colorado?
But for now, at least, she is the gift the
GOP has been waiting for. When we come back, I'll
give you the latest election results and the governor's race
in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
At this point, do you think it's done?
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Do you think Victor Marx is the nominee as most say,
I'll give you the numbers.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
You're on the dan.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
CAPLA Show, and now back to the Dan Kapler Show podcast.
Speaker 8 (10:15):
Last night celebration here in Washington encountered a series of
weather delays, but Trump stuck it out and delivered a
forty minute address ending just before midnight, where he praised America.
But the speech also, of course, threw sharply partisan with
Trump slamming communism.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
So now that's CNN.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
So now it's sharply partisan to slam communism. That's how
quickly we're living through a tipping point right now. That's
pretty exciting, right We're living through a tipping point where
you've had this socialist slash communistry growing in the Democratic
Party in Colorado and America, and now they get a
few ws and it's just right out in the open.
(10:56):
Now the President of the United States is sharply partisan.
He slams communists. So that this is our moment, and
by our I mean all saying decent Americans across party.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Lines, this is our moment.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
This is our moment to expose they're exposing themselves right now.
There should be a law against that, to allow the
left to expose themselves fully right now, and that creates
the opening for the GOP. So if you agree great.
If you disagree, better, let's take that call. Take those
texts three oh three seven one three eight two five
five d an five seven seven three nine. If you
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do agree, what do you think that the Colorado GOP
should be doing right now?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
To take advantage of that?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I opened the show by saying, any Republican nominee who
doesn't run against Malot Kiros is crazy, you know. And
make your opponent where Michael Allen running against Jenna Griswold,
and a statewide race the GOP can win would be
vital to the healths.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Of the state of the state. For Michael Allen to
win that race.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah, yeah, he should be running against malt Kiros too,
Jenna Griswold. He do you agree with malt Cairos? Disagree
when Griswold tries to wiggle pin her down, you know, which,
of course, the media won't do as it should. But yeah,
make them all, make them all where malt Kiros. And
the truth is that they you know, bet a bunch
of them can't hide it. A bunch of them just
(12:20):
can't hide it. And a bunch of these Democrat candidates
will just want to be.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Right out there no matter what their advisors a ton them.
They're going to want to be right out there saying, yeah,
she's right, go, comey go. It's going to be a
moment of opportunity in Colorado. Now. Is that opportunity going
to grow over time? Yes?
Speaker 1 (12:39):
But there's still time, you know, we can all do
the math between now and November. There's still time for
any GOP candidate who has a real shot to win
to be able to use malot kiros to their advantage.
Three all three seven win three eight two five five
d an five seven, seventh thor nine. All right, let's
get to the current state of election results in Colorado. Obviously,
(13:01):
all eyes on the GOP gugnatorial primary, where I think
it is widely assumed at this point by most experts
who liked the conclusion or don't that Victor Marx is
highly likely to be the nominee. But you know what
they say about assume it makes a blank out of
you and me His axaxeguers behind the glass today, always
(13:22):
grateful for that.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Are we allowed to say that word on air?
Speaker 9 (13:26):
I won't anyway, But yeah, that's that one's clear, Really
that one's a lot okay?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
All right, so you know what they say about assume.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
But anyway, the math at this point as of like
just before this break and.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
It had changed.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
There had been There have been about four hundred votes
come in since about three forty five this afternoon. Two
hundred of those went to Barb Kirkmeyer and sixty nine
went to Victor, and seventy nine went to Scott, leaving
the current totals Victor two hundred and six thousand, four
(14:02):
to seven seven Barb two hundred and four five twenty seven,
for a difference of one thousand, nine hundred and fifty
in Victor's favor.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Now that's solidly within.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
That one half of one percent that demands the automatic recount,
and we'll see if that's where it ends. Now you're
talking about a total of five hundred and eighteen thousand,
four hundred and ninety votes cast so far, So round
that off to five eighteen though the four ninety good
matter in.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
The end, right.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
I Just I know it's hard when you're driving to
think and process numbers other than you know, like the
speed limit sign if you're me. But but I want
to give you a little perspective on this. Okay, we
only have about five hundred and nineteen, five hundred and
eighteen thousand votes cast in this GOP primary, at least
counted so far. And listen, I've been trying to get
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the number of votes yet to be counted, because I
know that's probably foremost in your mind. I can't find
that number anywhere if anybody has it, no pride of authorship,
I'd love to get that number from you. Everything I
can see tells me they're just quote, aren't many out
there yet to be counted.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
But take this for perspective.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Okay, what about in this race, this very race, how
many votes were cast in the Democrat primary. Well, in
the Democrat primary, for example, for US Senate, you've had
eight hundred and eighty seven thousand votes cast this cycle,
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and in the Democrat primary for governor you've had hundred
and eighty one two hundred and twenty three cast. That's
eight hundred and eighty one thousand votes cast in the
dem primary against the five hundred and eighteen cast.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
In the GOP primary.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Now we all know why, because you had that very
hot active you know, Governor's primary between Wiser and Bennett,
drew a lot of interest, drew a lot of money,
and most people assume whoever wins that primary is going
to be the next governor. So yeah, I mean it's
it's understandable to a point why so many more unaffiliateds
(16:15):
went to the dumb primary. But I think what we're
going to see in the end is it very few
unaffiliateds will have ended up voting in this primary. Zach,
I think you have an update on number of ballots remaining.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
That's correct.
Speaker 9 (16:29):
NBC estimates ten thousand remaining flatsworth.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Thank you for that, Zach. You can always count on, Zack.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yeah, ten thousand remaining and if far best to make
up about two thousand.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah, two thousand.
Speaker 9 (16:44):
But I think notably, she's point four percent down, So
if the lead gets much bigger for Victor Marx over
those ten thousand, it might take it outside that automatic
half percent will recount.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah, yeah, great point, there's, Zach, great point. Yeah, thank
you for that number. Yeah, listen, if it's down to
ten thousand votes, we can all do that math and
it would seem barring some big surprise in the cure period.
And you know how that works, right, where all the
candidates go out and they just look at the ballots
that weren't counted because that signature looked a little squirrely
or whatever. And then everybody's chasing down voters to make
(17:17):
sure they do what they have to do to get
their ballot counted. But I don't know, and we'll be
talking to experts to find out. You know, how many
ballots are we talking about, you know that weren't counted
because they got spit out by the machine because the
signature didn't look right, or there was some other discrepancy.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
But they're really legit votes. Yeah, that's that's.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
The number we're going to hear a lot of talk
about now, kind of like the old hanging chat thing, right,
seems like yesterday for old hanging chads. So yeah, if
you got ten thousand out and barbs down about two thousand, yeah,
barring something.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
In the.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
In those cures or whatever. Yeah, Victor is going to
be the nominee. So we invited both under the show
and would would love to have monison as they could.
A quick note about Scott Bottoms and I'm very anxious
to take your calls as well.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
You know, Scott got a lot of votes.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
He got a lot of votes in this primary, one
hundred and seven thousand and so in the end, We'll
never know exactly where those came from. I have to
believe that Scott hurt Victor's tell you a lot more
than he hurt ARBs. And so why love your take
on this? Why do you think it came down the
(18:32):
way it did? And again, not definitive at this point,
but it appears Victor is going to be the nominee.
What do you think? What do you think we're the
driving forces behind that? Where do you think it goes
from here?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Here? On the Dan Caplis Show.
Speaker 7 (18:51):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 10 (18:55):
I think the thing that hurts somebody's Well, there's two things.
Number One, this World Cup has been the World Cup
for the peace. We've marveled as the world has fallen
back in love with the United States and the United
States has fallen back.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
In love with global football.
Speaker 10 (19:06):
Lawrence, Kansas, where the town embraced the Algerian football team
in Boston, which became the capital of Scotland as the
Tartan Army downs to Laracy. All of these scenes have
been ecstatic and now you have this and the crazy thing, Gail.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
The US team have been playing so well, our.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Boys have been doing US proud. They're doing great without
any of this interference. And now you're right in the
eyes of the world.
Speaker 10 (19:30):
No matter what happens, every goal, every game they win,
maybe tonight, and afterwards we'll have a stigma. We'll have
an asterisk, by the way, which will last beyond the
World Cup for both the team and this poor player Baligan,
who is a great young striker. When you mentioned his
name in ten years, no matter how many goals he scores,
no matter how many games he plays, the world will
(19:51):
only remember him from this movement.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
He's rubbish, total rubbish.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Okay, just because he has a British accent doesn't mean
he's smart. That is a classic example of Trump derangement.
Centerman and I have a more precise definition, and that
is hate interferes with brain function, right, because you can
tell that's probably a smart guy.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Hate interferes with brain function.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
No, you obviously had the US cheated in the last game,
flat out cheated.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
When when they threw that guy out of the game
for l Eric bugainin.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
When they threw him out of the game. The US
striker like an offensive guy. If you don't follow soccer,
who you know tends to score a bunch relative to soccer,
so that maybe a goal or two a year. But
anyway they did, the rough cheated him, absolutely cheated him.
And so the President of the United States decides to
step in and say to FIFA, Hey, we got cheated.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
That ain't good.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
No, that that's what you want a president of the
United States doing, right, it's standing up for his country.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
That's that guy.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I think that guy is absolute lea full of it.
There's going to be an asterisk now because here's your
starting point. And then I'll get off this because I
know people don't tune into the show for soccer, even
though they should. But but the starting point is right
and wrong. The starting point is every honest person in
the world knows the US got cheated, and there are
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examples of other stars doing the exact same thing and
not getting any penalty at all. So what the US
is just supposed to sit back and accept being cheated.
The US did not save the world that way. The
US did not save the world from darkness by sitting back.
The US saved the world from darkness by standing up
(21:43):
and saying no, there's right and wrong, and that's wrong,
and we're going to make.
Speaker 9 (21:46):
It right, and this isn't a rarity in the world
of FIFA, Like FIFA is known to be malleable. Let's say,
you know, like they moved for sale to December in
twenty twenty two so that guitar could have it because
Quitar paid him a ton of money. They played it
in Russia, I'm pretty sure in twenty eighteen because Russia
(22:06):
gave him a big old bag of money. This is
a far less egregious thing, because yes, it was maybe
even Trump putting his finger on the scale a bit.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
But like you said, it's well deserved to make the
right thing happen.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
And I just want to credit zach seekers back there
for saying Katar right, because very few people do. And
the only reason I know how to say it right
is our plane got diverted there on our wedding anniversary. Hey, honey,
where do you want to go for our thirtieth anniversary? Oh,
let's go to Qatar. No, she didn't say that, but
the plane ended up in Qatar and it turned out
(22:40):
absolutely beautiful place. At least what we saw overnight got
a lot of text, as you would expect, because we
have not had a chance to talk since election months
started right, there's no longer an election day for some reason,
we never know the results on election day, except the
twenty twenty four because it was such a wipeout.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Tink, God, let me get to some of these Texters.
I know.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
I have a couple of texts asking me about the
unaffiliated vote totals this year and last time, and I
did research those before the show because it's so striking
if you go back to twenty twenty two, right, so
non presidential gubnatorial primary in Colorado, and then you know,
there's no excitement in the DEM primary in twenty twenty
(23:26):
two because Polis was a sitting governor.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
He was going to get all those votes, and so yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
In twenty twenty two in the DEM primary for governor,
you only had one hundred and sixty one thousand unaffiliated
vote in that primary. But if you go back to
twenty twenty two, when Heidi and Greg were facing off,
you had two hundred and thirty one thousand unaffiliated's vote
in the GOP primary, which is a really big deal
(23:53):
because fewer people tend to vote in these GOP primaries anyway.
So I think we're going to see that as more
than flip this year, and I think we're going to
see that.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
With the GOP.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Total vote total being solo right now, it's around five
hundred and eighteen thousand, you know, I think in the
end we're going to see very few unaffiliateds voted in
our race, and that probably explains the outcome in Victor's favor.
Assuming these current results hold Victors up about just under
two thousand votes, with Zach tells me NBC reporting about
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ten thousand votes outstanding, and.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Then you have the cure period and all that.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
But if Victor, as I think widely assumed at this point,
does become the nominee, then I think you've got two
pretty obvious conclusions. One is you had far fewer unaffiliated
vote in the GOP primary, and two, I think the
Marx campaign was very, very very smart about the way
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they approach this race. They knew they had their core supporters,
and Victor came into this race with that because of
what he had done in the past. They knew they
had those core supporters. And my guess is they haven't
told me this, but my guess is that they probably
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very very accurately and correctly predicted that there would be
relatively few unaffiliateds vote in this race, so I think
that explains their strategy of just you know, basing their campaign,
aiming their campaign at their core support rather than you know,
they're broadening it out and with the risks that that involves,
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and with the expense that that involves, and yeah, their
core support it appears, is going to be enough to
get them over the finish line ahead and maybe by
fifteen hundred or two thousand votes, but it looks like
they are likely to finish ahead with that approach, So
you know, credit them with a very very smart strategy
going into this race. I think the another big dynamic
(25:59):
in this race is that Barb you know, joint budget
Committee work and everything else, just didn't get started in
this campaign full throttle as early as you would normally
expect one of the leading candidates to get started. So
I think she brings to the table and brought to
the table an awful lot of impressive things and you know,
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fit that kind of traditional some would say establishment but
certainly very experienced in government candidate role very well. But
her campaign started actively, started just much much later than
you would normally see. And I think Barba tell you
she said it on the show multiple times that she
was busy with her Joint Budget Committee work, and in
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the end, I think that that you know that that
is one of the driving dynamics in what appears to
be I'll throw that caveat.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
On until it's official this outcome here.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
So one things for sure, though, the GOP has an opportunity,
and I want to take a bunch of texting calls
on this. GOP has the opportunity of lifetime now to
come back, come back quickly, come back strong, and that
is the election of malat Kiros. Because I won't go
through the whole wrap I did at the beginning of
the show, but obviously the mask is off the Dems
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right now. It is off the Dems. They are just socialist, right,
and some dress it up a little better than others,
but she is just raw, double middle finger, right in
your face socialism. And so now every single Democrat candidate
has to agree with her or disagree with her.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
And none of them are going to disagree with her.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
It's just a matter of how many are not going
to be able to contain themselves and just come out
and enthusiastically agree with her.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
But no matter what they say.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
That the point is it wakes Colorad's up to the
fact that, Okay, the choice now is in between the
Republican Party and the Democrat Party. And you know, the
Republican Party obviously is at a brand issue in Colorado
for a while, and the Democrat Party has been it
as the cool kids, even though they're thoroughly trashing the state.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
But now the.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Choice is between okay, do you want Republicans or do
you want socialists? That immediately puts the GOP back in
the game. What will the GOP have to do to
take advantage of that? Will come back to Call's text,
How lucky we are to be alive right now?
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Do you know where that comes from, Zach?
Speaker 9 (28:23):
No, where's that from?
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Did you see Hamilton?
Speaker 11 (28:27):
No?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
I haven't seen Hamilton. You have not seen Hamilton. I
know that that is going to be my gift to you.
I'm sorry I cut you off. Why haven't you seen Hamilton?
Speaker 9 (28:36):
It was like I was in high school when it
was really big, and so I just wasn't, you know,
earning enough to.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Get theater tickets. I hear you, because it became a
thing for my daughter and I.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
We went saw Hamilton a bunch, and but that is
going to be my gift to you, Zach. I'm going
to look during the break on when it's coming back,
and my gift to you is going to be good
tickets to Hambleton because I know some people say lefties,
Lynn Miranda all this and that. Yeah, I don't care
who put it together. It's a lot of fun and
really cool. And that's one of the big songs from it.
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You know how lucky we are to be alive right now,
and we are. It just does not get more interesting
than this. And we have our opening with the Democrats
going full socialist, we have our opening.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
You're on the Dan CAplus.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
Show and now back to the Dan Kapler Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Me, I'm a lot.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Carous I want to quote something that you said during
a speech in mid May, obviously before your victory, about
the basics of your ideology. I want to dig into
it a little bit with you. You said, every single
issue that I looked at where we thought there was
a problem that was persisting, we already figured out the.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Solution a long time ago.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
You solve homelessness by giving people housing. You solve hunger
by giving people food. You solve healthcare by going to
a single payer system. Now, I'll just tell you my
bias here. I grew up in Canada, where, like every
other developed country, has universal health care. But tell me
about this, because there are some who would paint you
and other DSA members as radicals.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Maybe because socialism has never worked anywhere. And she's too
smart to believe what she said there. She knows that
isn't true. What these socialists and communists do is is
they just play off of people's jealousies. They play off
of people's fears. They say, I'm gonna take it from
him and give it to you. You know, they play
for those those base weaknesses.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
That's what they do.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
And yeah, they've won power lots of places because that
can have some superficial appeal unfortunately to some, but it
never works anywhere. But now, great opportunity, right, let's go
to the phone lines. Great opportunity in Colorado because the
mask is dropped and now people aren't choosing between Democrats
and Republicans. They're choosing between Republicans and socialists because that's
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what the Democratic Party is in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Now it's just official. Let's go to the phone lines.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
We'll start, and beautiful Fort Collins call or they have
to be excited for this football season. Great new head coach,
Don here on the dan kaplah' welcome. Hey.
Speaker 6 (31:07):
Yeah, well I'm a motocross guy. I don't follow football much,
but anyway, hey, listen, this time around when I voted
in the primary, I intentionally Dan. I know this may
sound silly to you, but I intentionally butchered my signature
on the end boom, and I was still recorded as.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Voted interesty did not get spit.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
We don't have no, we do not have handwriting experts
checking the ballots.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
DA right, it's computerized, right, Well.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
In any case, it doesn't obviously it's not very accurate, yea, Don.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
I am really intrigued by this, my friend, and I'm
not doubting at all what you're saying. But if you can,
if you could just shoot me an example, if you
could just shoot me, did you take a picture of
your ballots so we could like see him side by side,
because that's intriguing to me.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
I'd love a picture of my envelope.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
No oh yeah, yeah, because I would love to be
able to compare your real signature to what you did
as a test on your ballot and just see how
the Secretary of State explains that.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
Good.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
Yeah, exactly. I think a whole lot more people should
probably ask that same question. Yeah, I mean for people
to you know, there's a reason that Save America Act
as such a high approval.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Don't put that jacking on me.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
I have no doubt whatsoever there's fraud in elections.
Speaker 6 (32:28):
Your co or your filling hosts. The other day I
thought to him from that it and he doesn't believe.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
You know, I doubt there's anybody who'd say there's no
cheating that. The question is is there enough cheating change
the outcome? Now, there should be zero tolerance for any
I've just never seen proof of enough to change the outcome?
Speaker 6 (32:48):
Sure, Okay, well no, Well, how are you going to
prove it?
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Dan?
Speaker 6 (32:52):
Without handwriting experts, how are you going to prove it?
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Well, that's a great point. It's the point I made
right after the twenty twenty race. Appreciate the call my
friend want to get everybody in which was listen for
this country to be able to stay together and move
forward together. I think that we cannot declare a president,
whether they're Republican or Democrat, illegitimate unless we can prove
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there was enough cheating to change the outcome, but but
there can still be very fair questions that need to
be answered. And those who say, well, they lost in
court are being too superficial because understandably, our judicial system
is not set up to be able to review elections quickly.
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I mean they can at a kind of a federal
appellate level and a State of Pelt level.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I'm talking about evidence.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
I'm talking about going into trial court rooms and being
able to gather and present the proof quickly enough before
these deadlines for certification come. When somebody believes in election
has been stolen, the system is not set up to
allow that kind of rapid We call it discovery, where
you get subpoena power to go out and get documents
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and testimony and then get it before a fact finder
in court quickly enough. Now that doesn't mean the twenty
twenty election was stolen. It just means that a fair
point is made when people say, wait a second, there
isn't the kind of fact finding judicial process that can
be executed quickly.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Enough to get to the bottom of it.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
That's why after the twenty twenty election, I called immediately
for a bipartisan national commission like the nine to eleven Commission,
with subpoena power to be able to go out and
answer all of these fair questions people had about Kay
on election night. You know, why was the vote tabulation
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so different than we've seen in the past. Now, Democrats
didn't want that kind of commission. That doesn't mean the
commission would have concluded that the election was stolen, not
at all, but it does mean that the commission could
have gotten the answers to those questions and those fair questions.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Linger.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
I think the answer to that question is probably that
because of COVID, there was mass mail in balloting in
places where there's usually not mail in balloting, and so
that just on election night threw off the flow. But
whatever it is, we haven't had those questions answered as
a nation, So those suspicions, Linger, that's not healthy for
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a nation. Terry and Littleton, you're on the dan Kaplas show.
Speaker 11 (35:27):
Welcome, Thank you, yeah, hello for doing well today.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yes, sir.
Speaker 11 (35:33):
Regarding Barb Kirkmeyer, I watched her debate. It to you,
she had command of the topics, command of the issues.
She was a better debater than anybody else on that stage.
I thought that she came off with a professional mannerism.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
I'll tell you what Barb is not.
Speaker 11 (35:49):
She's not a fighter.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Can you hold on, my friend, I don't want to
cut you short. I can tell I'm really going to
be intrigued at Terry's call. Obviously we're talking about, in fact,
why the election appears to be turning out this way
with Victor Phenominee. I give my thoughts earlier taking some
calls on that. Also, how does the GOP now take
advantage of this once in a lifetime opening with Malak
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Kiros winning.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
The mask is dropped. It's now Democratic Party socialism in Colorado.
We got to beat that.
This is Dan Kaplis, and welcome to today's online podcast
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hope you had a phenomenal in two hundred and fifty if.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
One thing I want to talk about during the show
is why wasn't there more of that? Right?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Why wasn't there more of that? And I'm still a
very young buck, but I can remember the bi centennial
in seventy six and it seemed like there was stuff
all over the place. I think I saw like one
two fifty flag or banner somewhere. Why wasn't there more
of it? I've got my answer, but would love to
hear yours. Three all three seven one three eight two
five five text d A N five seven seven three nine.
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Of course a big World Cup soccer game US tonight.
It's six and we will be talking about today because
it's a great crossover issue, right.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I mean, I love sports. I'm guessing you do.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Two and we talked sports during breaks and everything else.
We tend to do it really well. When we get
into it on the show. But the point being we're
not a sports show, right, so we normally only do
it on air when it crosses over into other issues.
It transcends sports, and you know, this big World Cup first,
I think just the US advancing in the World Cup
does that is kind of a community togetherness kind of thing.
(01:19):
But here we definitely get a direct dose of the
mix when we.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Talk about President Trump stepping.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
In as I think he should have, and you know,
talking to the governing body.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Of this World Cup called FIFA, the governing.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Body, and just trying to make things right because the
fact is the US got one cheated. You know, I
don't claim to be the world soccer expert. I'm the
opposite of that. But even I know this that when
they threw that guy out of the game, the US
star in the last game, it's called a red card.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
When they threw him out of the game, it was
just dead wrong.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
I mean, no honest person could make the case that
guy should have been thrown out of the game. The
problem with getting thrown out of the game is and
you're automatically thrown out of the next one, which means tonight.
So I think the president was right to intervene, But
love to get your take on this. Three all three
seven one three eight two five five d an five
seven seven three nine. And as you probably know by now,
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yesterday FIFA reversed itself and said, yeah, we're gonna let
that US guy serve his suspension.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
A year from now.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Well there won't be an well couple year from now,
so that's okay. So do you think the president was
right to intervene? We have some fun, fun sound on that.
And then you know, I've been very very very tied
up in this big, very very important wrong for death case,
and so I wasn't on air through you know, the
day after the election, et cetera. So this is the
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first chance to really dig into that, and I've been
dying to do it with you because this is the
breakthrough the Colorado GOP needed. This is the break that
Conservatism in Colorado needed to get back in the game.
And obviously I'm talking about everybody's favorite comy, a lot Kiros,
you know, who not only beat Diana de gat and
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to get as you know, i'd been in Congress in
CD one, which is Denver forever. But in fact I
think Moses. I think maybe she debated. No, I don't
think her first debate was against Moses. But yeah, she's
been there a very long time, very long time. Yes,
that's right. And so anyway a lot. Kiros not only
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beat her, she beat her like a drum. She beat
her by over thirteen points and is now this big
national figure.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
So Kiros is a gift to the Colorado GOP.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I think she's by extending her reach the way she is,
you know, and getting way in front of her skis,
she's a gift to the national GOP.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
But above all, she is exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
What the Colorado GOP needed to revive because right now,
think about it, with skilled candidates, with skilled candidates, so
we'll get to the current election results in a second.
With skilled candidates, you can stick each and every Democrat
with her. Do you agree with her or not? She
is a self admitted raw socialist.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Do you agree with her or not?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
And so I hope people are very very excited as
I am, by this opportunity for the GOP to come back.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
And you know, do I wish it was because GOP
had just.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Shined in so many great ways that everybody's saying, well,
you know, I really never gave that Colorado GOP enough credit.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
No, it's not it.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
You know, GOP is doing some good things, some good
candidates this and that. But know what it is is
the Democrats dropping the mask and they are just for
all out socialism right now. Now you have some Democratic
candidates who are not, but they're much much closer to
her than they are to sanity. And are they willing
at this point to separate themselves from her? I doubt
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that very very much. So just to get a taste
this is a lot Caros after she won on MSNB,
I want to.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Quote something that you said during a speech in mid May,
obviously before your victory, about the basics of your ideology.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
I want to dig into it a little bit with you.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
You said, every single issue that I looked at where
we thought there was a problem that was persisting, we
already figured out the solution a long time ago. You
solve homelessness by giving people housing. You solve hunger by
giving people food. You solve healthcare by going to a
single payer system.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Now I'll just tell you my bias here.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I grew up in Canada, where like every other developed country,
has universal health care, but tell me about this, because
there are some who would paint you and other DSA
members as radicals. You're trying to make the argument that
this is common sense.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
It is common sense, right if you look at the data,
if you look at the research. It is cheaper to
house someone than to leave them homeless.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
It is cheaper to heal someone.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
And give them treatment that it is to let them
get sick and to deal with getting the last minute,
you know, excruciating treatment at the very end of their sickness.
It is cheaper to give our kid it's the highest
quality education and give them the opportunity to thrive with
the best opportunities in their futures.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
All of these things not only.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Pay for themselves, not only are pragmatic and economic.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
You know, it's just also the right thing to do.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
Right.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
It's like talking to a child.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
And this person is intelligent intellectually and has impressive degrees
and all that, but that doesn't make her wise. It's
like talking to a child. Oh yeah, you want to
sell home, listen, give them houses? Right, Well, well tell
me this then, male curios. Why has it never worked anywhere?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Why?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yes, this never worked anywhere. The reason it never works anywhere.
There are multiple reasons, but a big one is pretty
soon you run out of other people's money to be
giving these people houses and to just have government giving
away the healthcare. And I'm not talking about safety net,
of course, is any kind of functional society and any
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kind of decent society, you have to have a safety
net for those who absolutely cannot survive, cannot manage in
capitalism for whatever reason, whether it's a serious illness, a
mental disability, a serious addiction, for that relatively small number
of people who literally can't manage.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
No, we are a humane people. We're not going to
have them die in the street.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
But that has to be reserved to a very very
narrow safety net because guess what, even that very narrow
safety net is very hard for a society to afford.
But if you get into what she's talking about, and
I know you already know this is just fun to
say it. If you get into what she's talking about,
the entire society collapses, the economic system collapses, the desire
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and motivation and will of people to go out and
work collapses.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
But that's what she wants, right, that's what she wants.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
She can't possibly be because again, She's not a dumb person,
So this isn't a matter of stupidity, because only a
profoundly stupid person with that what she just actually said
was true.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
But no, what these socialist.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Communists want is they want the collapse of society, more
power to the government. They get to determine who gets
what when, which is exactly what they want, right Yeah,
government ownership of the means of production, government control of
your life. Well, the beautiful thing now is that Democrats
she is now, make no mistake about it. She is
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the face of the Democratic Party in Colorado, and any
GOP candidate who does not run against her should have
their ticket pull.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
They shouldn't be a GOP candidate. She is the face.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
And I will tell you this right now. I hope
she's okay, but I wouldn't be surprised if she'd visited
an er over the weekend, because she must have been
kicking herself. She must have been kicking herself twenty four
to seven since election day because one thing that is inarguable,
absolutely profoundly true is that if she had run against
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John Hickenlooper, she would have beat him like a drum.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
If she ran against Jean Hickenlooper.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
She would have beat him by five points, probably ten.
So she's sitting there right now, I'm thinking, Okay, now
I'm one of over five hundred.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I'm on Congress.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I mean, I could get on TV anytime I want
to by saying these squirrely things.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
But I could have been a US Senator and she
would have been.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
She would have beaten Nick Hickellooper ran against somebody most
people have never heard of, had virtually no money from
all accounts, didn't run any kind of campaign that permeated anywhere,
and she only finished five or six points behind Hickenlooper's
Julie Gonzalez Cairos would have cleaned his clock. And so
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another question is sticking the back of your mind. You know,
will she run next time for the Senate nomination in Colorado?
But for now, at least, she is the gift the
GOP has been waiting for. When we come back, I'll
give you the latest election results and the governor's race
in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
At this point, do you think it's done?
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Do you think Victor Marx is the nominee as most say,
I'll give you the numbers.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
You're on the dan.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
CAPLA Show, and now back to the Dan Kapler Show podcast.
Speaker 8 (10:15):
Last night celebration here in Washington encountered a series of
weather delays, but Trump stuck it out and delivered a
forty minute address ending just before midnight, where he praised America.
But the speech also, of course, threw sharply partisan with
Trump slamming communism.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
So now that's CNN.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
So now it's sharply partisan to slam communism. That's how
quickly we're living through a tipping point right now. That's
pretty exciting, right We're living through a tipping point where
you've had this socialist slash communistry growing in the Democratic
Party in Colorado and America, and now they get a
few ws and it's just right out in the open.
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Now the President of the United States is sharply partisan.
He slams communists. So that this is our moment, and
by our I mean all saying decent Americans across party.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Lines, this is our moment.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
This is our moment to expose they're exposing themselves right now.
There should be a law against that, to allow the
left to expose themselves fully right now, and that creates
the opening for the GOP. So if you agree great.
If you disagree, better, let's take that call. Take those
texts three oh three seven one three eight two five
five d an five seven seven three nine. If you
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do agree, what do you think that the Colorado GOP
should be doing right now?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
To take advantage of that?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I opened the show by saying, any Republican nominee who
doesn't run against Malot Kiros is crazy, you know. And
make your opponent where Michael Allen running against Jenna Griswold,
and a statewide race the GOP can win would be
vital to the healths.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Of the state of the state. For Michael Allen to
win that race.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah, yeah, he should be running against malt Kiros too,
Jenna Griswold. He do you agree with malt Cairos? Disagree
when Griswold tries to wiggle pin her down, you know, which,
of course, the media won't do as it should. But yeah,
make them all, make them all where malt Kiros. And
the truth is that they you know, bet a bunch
of them can't hide it. A bunch of them just
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can't hide it. And a bunch of these Democrat candidates
will just want to be.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Right out there no matter what their advisors a ton them.
They're going to want to be right out there saying, yeah,
she's right, go, comey go. It's going to be a
moment of opportunity in Colorado. Now. Is that opportunity going
to grow over time? Yes?
Speaker 1 (12:39):
But there's still time, you know, we can all do
the math between now and November. There's still time for
any GOP candidate who has a real shot to win
to be able to use malot kiros to their advantage.
Three all three seven win three eight two five five
d an five seven, seventh thor nine. All right, let's
get to the current state of election results in Colorado. Obviously,
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all eyes on the GOP gugnatorial primary, where I think
it is widely assumed at this point by most experts
who liked the conclusion or don't that Victor Marx is
highly likely to be the nominee. But you know what
they say about assume it makes a blank out of
you and me His axaxeguers behind the glass today, always
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grateful for that.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Are we allowed to say that word on air?
Speaker 9 (13:26):
I won't anyway, But yeah, that's that one's clear, Really
that one's a lot okay?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
All right, so you know what they say about assume.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
But anyway, the math at this point as of like
just before this break and.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
It had changed.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
There had been There have been about four hundred votes
come in since about three forty five this afternoon. Two
hundred of those went to Barb Kirkmeyer and sixty nine
went to Victor, and seventy nine went to Scott, leaving
the current totals Victor two hundred and six thousand, four
(14:02):
to seven seven Barb two hundred and four five twenty seven,
for a difference of one thousand, nine hundred and fifty
in Victor's favor.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Now that's solidly within.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
That one half of one percent that demands the automatic recount,
and we'll see if that's where it ends. Now you're
talking about a total of five hundred and eighteen thousand,
four hundred and ninety votes cast so far, So round
that off to five eighteen though the four ninety good
matter in.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
The end, right.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
I Just I know it's hard when you're driving to
think and process numbers other than you know, like the
speed limit sign if you're me. But but I want
to give you a little perspective on this. Okay, we
only have about five hundred and nineteen, five hundred and
eighteen thousand votes cast in this GOP primary, at least
counted so far. And listen, I've been trying to get
(14:54):
the number of votes yet to be counted, because I
know that's probably foremost in your mind. I can't find
that number anywhere if anybody has it, no pride of authorship,
I'd love to get that number from you. Everything I
can see tells me they're just quote, aren't many out
there yet to be counted.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
But take this for perspective.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Okay, what about in this race, this very race, how
many votes were cast in the Democrat primary. Well, in
the Democrat primary, for example, for US Senate, you've had
eight hundred and eighty seven thousand votes cast this cycle,
(15:35):
and in the Democrat primary for governor you've had hundred
and eighty one two hundred and twenty three cast. That's
eight hundred and eighty one thousand votes cast in the
dem primary against the five hundred and eighteen cast.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
In the GOP primary.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Now we all know why, because you had that very
hot active you know, Governor's primary between Wiser and Bennett,
drew a lot of interest, drew a lot of money,
and most people assume whoever wins that primary is going
to be the next governor. So yeah, I mean it's
it's understandable to a point why so many more unaffiliateds
(16:15):
went to the dumb primary. But I think what we're
going to see in the end is it very few
unaffiliateds will have ended up voting in this primary. Zach,
I think you have an update on number of ballots remaining.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
That's correct.
Speaker 9 (16:29):
NBC estimates ten thousand remaining flatsworth.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Thank you for that, Zach. You can always count on, Zack.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yeah, ten thousand remaining and if far best to make
up about two thousand.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah, two thousand.
Speaker 9 (16:44):
But I think notably, she's point four percent down, So
if the lead gets much bigger for Victor Marx over
those ten thousand, it might take it outside that automatic
half percent will recount.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah, yeah, great point, there's, Zach, great point. Yeah, thank
you for that number. Yeah, listen, if it's down to
ten thousand votes, we can all do that math and
it would seem barring some big surprise in the cure period.
And you know how that works, right, where all the
candidates go out and they just look at the ballots
that weren't counted because that signature looked a little squirrely
or whatever. And then everybody's chasing down voters to make
(17:17):
sure they do what they have to do to get
their ballot counted. But I don't know, and we'll be
talking to experts to find out. You know, how many
ballots are we talking about, you know that weren't counted
because they got spit out by the machine because the
signature didn't look right, or there was some other discrepancy.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
But they're really legit votes. Yeah, that's that's.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
The number we're going to hear a lot of talk
about now, kind of like the old hanging chat thing, right,
seems like yesterday for old hanging chads. So yeah, if
you got ten thousand out and barbs down about two thousand, yeah,
barring something.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
In the.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
In those cures or whatever. Yeah, Victor is going to
be the nominee. So we invited both under the show
and would would love to have monison as they could.
A quick note about Scott Bottoms and I'm very anxious
to take your calls as well.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
You know, Scott got a lot of votes.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
He got a lot of votes in this primary, one
hundred and seven thousand and so in the end, We'll
never know exactly where those came from. I have to
believe that Scott hurt Victor's tell you a lot more
than he hurt ARBs. And so why love your take
on this? Why do you think it came down the
(18:32):
way it did? And again, not definitive at this point,
but it appears Victor is going to be the nominee.
What do you think? What do you think we're the
driving forces behind that? Where do you think it goes
from here?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Here? On the Dan Caplis Show.
Speaker 7 (18:51):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 10 (18:55):
I think the thing that hurts somebody's Well, there's two things.
Number One, this World Cup has been the World Cup
for the peace. We've marveled as the world has fallen
back in love with the United States and the United
States has fallen back.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
In love with global football.
Speaker 10 (19:06):
Lawrence, Kansas, where the town embraced the Algerian football team
in Boston, which became the capital of Scotland as the
Tartan Army downs to Laracy. All of these scenes have
been ecstatic and now you have this and the crazy thing, Gail.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
The US team have been playing so well, our.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Boys have been doing US proud. They're doing great without
any of this interference. And now you're right in the
eyes of the world.
Speaker 10 (19:30):
No matter what happens, every goal, every game they win,
maybe tonight, and afterwards we'll have a stigma. We'll have
an asterisk, by the way, which will last beyond the
World Cup for both the team and this poor player Baligan,
who is a great young striker. When you mentioned his
name in ten years, no matter how many goals he scores,
no matter how many games he plays, the world will
(19:51):
only remember him from this movement.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
He's rubbish, total rubbish.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Okay, just because he has a British accent doesn't mean
he's smart. That is a classic example of Trump derangement.
Centerman and I have a more precise definition, and that
is hate interferes with brain function, right, because you can
tell that's probably a smart guy.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Hate interferes with brain function.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
No, you obviously had the US cheated in the last game,
flat out cheated.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
When when they threw that guy out of the game
for l Eric bugainin.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
When they threw him out of the game. The US
striker like an offensive guy. If you don't follow soccer,
who you know tends to score a bunch relative to soccer,
so that maybe a goal or two a year. But
anyway they did, the rough cheated him, absolutely cheated him.
And so the President of the United States decides to
step in and say to FIFA, Hey, we got cheated.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
That ain't good.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
No, that that's what you want a president of the
United States doing, right, it's standing up for his country.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
That's that guy.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I think that guy is absolute lea full of it.
There's going to be an asterisk now because here's your
starting point. And then I'll get off this because I
know people don't tune into the show for soccer, even
though they should. But but the starting point is right
and wrong. The starting point is every honest person in
the world knows the US got cheated, and there are
(21:22):
examples of other stars doing the exact same thing and
not getting any penalty at all. So what the US
is just supposed to sit back and accept being cheated.
The US did not save the world that way. The
US did not save the world from darkness by sitting back.
The US saved the world from darkness by standing up
(21:43):
and saying no, there's right and wrong, and that's wrong,
and we're going to make.
Speaker 9 (21:46):
It right, and this isn't a rarity in the world
of FIFA, Like FIFA is known to be malleable. Let's say,
you know, like they moved for sale to December in
twenty twenty two so that guitar could have it because
Quitar paid him a ton of money. They played it
in Russia, I'm pretty sure in twenty eighteen because Russia
(22:06):
gave him a big old bag of money. This is
a far less egregious thing, because yes, it was maybe
even Trump putting his finger on the scale a bit.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
But like you said, it's well deserved to make the
right thing happen.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
And I just want to credit zach seekers back there
for saying Katar right, because very few people do. And
the only reason I know how to say it right
is our plane got diverted there on our wedding anniversary. Hey, honey,
where do you want to go for our thirtieth anniversary? Oh,
let's go to Qatar. No, she didn't say that, but
the plane ended up in Qatar and it turned out
(22:40):
absolutely beautiful place. At least what we saw overnight got
a lot of text, as you would expect, because we
have not had a chance to talk since election months
started right, there's no longer an election day for some reason,
we never know the results on election day, except the
twenty twenty four because it was such a wipeout.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Tink, God, let me get to some of these Texters.
I know.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
I have a couple of texts asking me about the
unaffiliated vote totals this year and last time, and I
did research those before the show because it's so striking
if you go back to twenty twenty two, right, so
non presidential gubnatorial primary in Colorado, and then you know,
there's no excitement in the DEM primary in twenty twenty
(23:26):
two because Polis was a sitting governor.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
He was going to get all those votes, and so yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
In twenty twenty two in the DEM primary for governor,
you only had one hundred and sixty one thousand unaffiliated
vote in that primary. But if you go back to
twenty twenty two, when Heidi and Greg were facing off,
you had two hundred and thirty one thousand unaffiliated's vote
in the GOP primary, which is a really big deal
(23:53):
because fewer people tend to vote in these GOP primaries anyway.
So I think we're going to see that as more
than flip this year, and I think we're going to
see that.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
With the GOP.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Total vote total being solo right now, it's around five
hundred and eighteen thousand, you know, I think in the
end we're going to see very few unaffiliateds voted in
our race, and that probably explains the outcome in Victor's favor.
Assuming these current results hold Victors up about just under
two thousand votes, with Zach tells me NBC reporting about
(24:28):
ten thousand votes outstanding, and.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Then you have the cure period and all that.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
But if Victor, as I think widely assumed at this point,
does become the nominee, then I think you've got two
pretty obvious conclusions. One is you had far fewer unaffiliated
vote in the GOP primary, and two, I think the
Marx campaign was very, very very smart about the way
(24:55):
they approach this race. They knew they had their core supporters,
and Victor came into this race with that because of
what he had done in the past. They knew they
had those core supporters. And my guess is they haven't
told me this, but my guess is that they probably
(25:15):
very very accurately and correctly predicted that there would be
relatively few unaffiliateds vote in this race, so I think
that explains their strategy of just you know, basing their campaign,
aiming their campaign at their core support rather than you know,
they're broadening it out and with the risks that that involves,
(25:36):
and with the expense that that involves, and yeah, their
core support it appears, is going to be enough to
get them over the finish line ahead and maybe by
fifteen hundred or two thousand votes, but it looks like
they are likely to finish ahead with that approach, So
you know, credit them with a very very smart strategy
going into this race. I think the another big dynamic
(25:59):
in this race is that Barb you know, joint budget
Committee work and everything else, just didn't get started in
this campaign full throttle as early as you would normally
expect one of the leading candidates to get started. So
I think she brings to the table and brought to
the table an awful lot of impressive things and you know,
(26:21):
fit that kind of traditional some would say establishment but
certainly very experienced in government candidate role very well. But
her campaign started actively, started just much much later than
you would normally see. And I think Barba tell you
she said it on the show multiple times that she
was busy with her Joint Budget Committee work, and in
(26:42):
the end, I think that that you know that that
is one of the driving dynamics in what appears to
be I'll throw that caveat.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
On until it's official this outcome here.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
So one things for sure, though, the GOP has an opportunity,
and I want to take a bunch of texting calls
on this. GOP has the opportunity of lifetime now to
come back, come back quickly, come back strong, and that
is the election of malat Kiros. Because I won't go
through the whole wrap I did at the beginning of
the show, but obviously the mask is off the Dems
(27:15):
right now. It is off the Dems. They are just socialist, right,
and some dress it up a little better than others,
but she is just raw, double middle finger, right in
your face socialism. And so now every single Democrat candidate
has to agree with her or disagree with her.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
And none of them are going to disagree with her.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
It's just a matter of how many are not going
to be able to contain themselves and just come out
and enthusiastically agree with her.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
But no matter what they say.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
That the point is it wakes Colorad's up to the
fact that, Okay, the choice now is in between the
Republican Party and the Democrat Party. And you know, the
Republican Party obviously is at a brand issue in Colorado
for a while, and the Democrat Party has been it
as the cool kids, even though they're thoroughly trashing the state.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
But now the.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Choice is between okay, do you want Republicans or do
you want socialists? That immediately puts the GOP back in
the game. What will the GOP have to do to
take advantage of that? Will come back to Call's text,
How lucky we are to be alive right now?
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Do you know where that comes from, Zach?
Speaker 9 (28:23):
No, where's that from?
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Did you see Hamilton?
Speaker 11 (28:27):
No?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
I haven't seen Hamilton. You have not seen Hamilton. I
know that that is going to be my gift to you.
I'm sorry I cut you off. Why haven't you seen Hamilton?
Speaker 9 (28:36):
It was like I was in high school when it
was really big, and so I just wasn't, you know,
earning enough to.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Get theater tickets. I hear you, because it became a
thing for my daughter and I.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
We went saw Hamilton a bunch, and but that is
going to be my gift to you, Zach. I'm going
to look during the break on when it's coming back,
and my gift to you is going to be good
tickets to Hambleton because I know some people say lefties,
Lynn Miranda all this and that. Yeah, I don't care
who put it together. It's a lot of fun and
really cool. And that's one of the big songs from it.
(29:06):
You know how lucky we are to be alive right now,
and we are. It just does not get more interesting
than this. And we have our opening with the Democrats
going full socialist, we have our opening.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
You're on the Dan CAplus.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
Show and now back to the Dan Kapler Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Me, I'm a lot.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Carous I want to quote something that you said during
a speech in mid May, obviously before your victory, about
the basics of your ideology. I want to dig into
it a little bit with you. You said, every single
issue that I looked at where we thought there was
a problem that was persisting, we already figured out the.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Solution a long time ago.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
You solve homelessness by giving people housing. You solve hunger
by giving people food. You solve healthcare by going to
a single payer system. Now, I'll just tell you my
bias here. I grew up in Canada, where, like every
other developed country, has universal health care. But tell me
about this, because there are some who would paint you
and other DSA members as radicals.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Maybe because socialism has never worked anywhere. And she's too
smart to believe what she said there. She knows that
isn't true. What these socialists and communists do is is
they just play off of people's jealousies. They play off
of people's fears. They say, I'm gonna take it from
him and give it to you. You know, they play
for those those base weaknesses.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
That's what they do.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
And yeah, they've won power lots of places because that
can have some superficial appeal unfortunately to some, but it
never works anywhere. But now, great opportunity, right, let's go
to the phone lines. Great opportunity in Colorado because the
mask is dropped and now people aren't choosing between Democrats
and Republicans. They're choosing between Republicans and socialists because that's
(30:52):
what the Democratic Party is in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Now it's just official. Let's go to the phone lines.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
We'll start, and beautiful Fort Collins call or they have
to be excited for this football season. Great new head coach,
Don here on the dan kaplah' welcome. Hey.
Speaker 6 (31:07):
Yeah, well I'm a motocross guy. I don't follow football much,
but anyway, hey, listen, this time around when I voted
in the primary, I intentionally Dan. I know this may
sound silly to you, but I intentionally butchered my signature
on the end boom, and I was still recorded as.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Voted interesty did not get spit.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
We don't have no, we do not have handwriting experts
checking the ballots.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
DA right, it's computerized, right, Well.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
In any case, it doesn't obviously it's not very accurate, yea, Don.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
I am really intrigued by this, my friend, and I'm
not doubting at all what you're saying. But if you can,
if you could just shoot me an example, if you
could just shoot me, did you take a picture of
your ballots so we could like see him side by side,
because that's intriguing to me.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
I'd love a picture of my envelope.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
No oh yeah, yeah, because I would love to be
able to compare your real signature to what you did
as a test on your ballot and just see how
the Secretary of State explains that.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
Good.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
Yeah, exactly. I think a whole lot more people should
probably ask that same question. Yeah, I mean for people
to you know, there's a reason that Save America Act
as such a high approval.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Don't put that jacking on me.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
I have no doubt whatsoever there's fraud in elections.
Speaker 6 (32:28):
Your co or your filling hosts. The other day I
thought to him from that it and he doesn't believe.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
You know, I doubt there's anybody who'd say there's no
cheating that. The question is is there enough cheating change
the outcome? Now, there should be zero tolerance for any
I've just never seen proof of enough to change the outcome?
Speaker 6 (32:48):
Sure, Okay, well no, Well, how are you going to
prove it?
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Dan?
Speaker 6 (32:52):
Without handwriting experts, how are you going to prove it?
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Well, that's a great point. It's the point I made
right after the twenty twenty race. Appreciate the call my
friend want to get everybody in which was listen for
this country to be able to stay together and move
forward together. I think that we cannot declare a president,
whether they're Republican or Democrat, illegitimate unless we can prove
(33:17):
there was enough cheating to change the outcome, but but
there can still be very fair questions that need to
be answered. And those who say, well, they lost in
court are being too superficial because understandably, our judicial system
is not set up to be able to review elections quickly.
(33:39):
I mean they can at a kind of a federal
appellate level and a State of Pelt level.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I'm talking about evidence.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
I'm talking about going into trial court rooms and being
able to gather and present the proof quickly enough before
these deadlines for certification come. When somebody believes in election
has been stolen, the system is not set up to
allow that kind of rapid We call it discovery, where
you get subpoena power to go out and get documents
(34:06):
and testimony and then get it before a fact finder
in court quickly enough. Now that doesn't mean the twenty
twenty election was stolen. It just means that a fair
point is made when people say, wait a second, there
isn't the kind of fact finding judicial process that can
be executed quickly.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Enough to get to the bottom of it.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
That's why after the twenty twenty election, I called immediately
for a bipartisan national commission like the nine to eleven Commission,
with subpoena power to be able to go out and
answer all of these fair questions people had about Kay
on election night. You know, why was the vote tabulation
(34:46):
so different than we've seen in the past. Now, Democrats
didn't want that kind of commission. That doesn't mean the
commission would have concluded that the election was stolen, not
at all, but it does mean that the commission could
have gotten the answers to those questions and those fair questions.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Linger.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
I think the answer to that question is probably that
because of COVID, there was mass mail in balloting in
places where there's usually not mail in balloting, and so
that just on election night threw off the flow. But
whatever it is, we haven't had those questions answered as
a nation, So those suspicions, Linger, that's not healthy for
(35:24):
a nation. Terry and Littleton, you're on the dan Kaplas show.
Speaker 11 (35:27):
Welcome, Thank you, yeah, hello for doing well today.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yes, sir.
Speaker 11 (35:33):
Regarding Barb Kirkmeyer, I watched her debate. It to you,
she had command of the topics, command of the issues.
She was a better debater than anybody else on that stage.
I thought that she came off with a professional mannerism.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
I'll tell you what Barb is not.
Speaker 11 (35:49):
She's not a fighter.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Can you hold on, my friend, I don't want to
cut you short. I can tell I'm really going to
be intrigued at Terry's call. Obviously we're talking about, in fact,
why the election appears to be turning out this way
with Victor Phenominee. I give my thoughts earlier taking some
calls on that. Also, how does the GOP now take
advantage of this once in a lifetime opening with Malak
(36:12):
Kiros winning.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
The mask is dropped. It's now Democratic Party socialism in Colorado.
We got to beat that.
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