July 29, 2026 • 35 mins
This episode of the Dan Caplis Show is a must-listen for anyone following the latest developments in the world of politics and public health. The conversation is a scathing critique of Dr. Fauci's actions during the COVID-19 pandemic, with the host and guests questioning his motives and accountability.
The episode delves into the controversy surrounding Dr. Fauci's testimony, where he invoked his Fifth Amendment rights to avoid answering questions about his role in the pandemic response. The host and guests discuss the implications of this move, with some arguing that it's a sign of guilt and others seeing it as a clever tactic to avoid accountability. The conversation also touches on the Democratic Party's recent shift towards socialism and anti-Semitism, and how this may impact the upcoming midterm elections.
The discussion is lively and thought-provoking, with guests sharing their insights and opinions on the matter. The host and guests also explore the potential consequences of Dr. Fauci's actions, including the possibility of contempt of Congress charges and the impact on his reputation. With the midterms just around the corner, this episode is a timely and important listen for anyone interested in politics and public health.
If you're interested in staying informed about the latest developments in politics and public health, tune in to this episode of the Dan Caplis Show to hear the full conversation and get a deeper understanding of the issues at play.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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and to subscribe, download, and listen to the show every
single day on your favorite podcast platform. I mean, this
is something, this is something so awful, so enormous. The
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consequence is so grave. We just can't let this become
what I think it's going to become, you know, which
is just another twenty four hour news cycle story. And
I'm really worried. One of the challenges we have right now,
just as people, as people together as a society, one
of the challenges we have is, you know, life is
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so fast in the news cycle, so fast that stuff
that really needs to stick and cannot be accepted as
the new normal just kind of goes away because we're
all so busy and attention spans are so short, and obviously,
when it comes to an issue like like doctor Fauci
was just corruption. I'm not saying necessarily criminally prosecutable corruption,
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but that was on a moral level, corruption that did
grave harm to this country what he did. It's just
so important to establish that cannot be the new normal.
Now the Democrats want to protect him for obvious reasons. Right,
he was a great ally in defeating President Trump because
only COVID could defeat Trump, and so Fauci, along with
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the Democrats, tried to make COVID as disruptive to this
nation as possible so Trump would be defeated. And then
Fauci had his other personal motivations. But this cannot just
be allowed to pass. And I don't mean it in
a vindictive kind of sense. You know, that's not how
I'm wired. I mean it in a justice kind of
sense for the good of the nation. I'm not sitting
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here saying no. Maybe you are, and if so, let's
have that conversation. I'm not being critical. Maybe you're sitting
there saying no, No, Fauci has to pay. Fauci has
to suffer just because of what he did. I'm not
so concerned with making him suffer individually, though what he
did was horrific, as I am with the deterrence and
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the message it sends to society, because you have an
awful lot of people, and let's start with public health roles,
and we saw some good ones, but we saw a
lot of power drunk awful ones during COVID, and the
message has to be sent first to that whole industry
that you cannot do what Fauci did without there being
enormously severe consequences. So where should that go? And let
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me start with this broader question. Then we'll start to
drill down on it. But the broader question is what
do you think do you think that if there is
an applicable criminal statue and it carries jail time, is
it very important to the health of this nation and
to our future that he actually goes to jail. That's
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a question. I'd love to get your take on it.
Zach will open up those phone lines so our wonderful
callers will flood us with calls. And hey, listen, we
all know that the new era of talk radio is
they just get a lot of people who text it
in instead. And that's okay. We'll take those two d
an five, seven, seventh through nine. I have to admit
I've become really fond of text as long as people
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keep them short, because it lets you cover a lot
of stuff in a hurry, and I think a lot
of people I just feel more free. Of course, you
get the keyboard cowards, right, who will never call and disagree,
and as long as they're anonymous on a keyboard, they'll
say this or that. Fine, what do I care? Take
your best shot, But you can text us d an
five seven seven three nine. So this paragon of virtue, right,
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he is science. If you question him, you question science.
How did anybody ever take him seriously for a millisecond
after that? But yeah, I's taking the fifth.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Therefore, although it pains me to do so, respect I
have for.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
The legislative branch.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Of government and my decades long record of cooperating with Congress.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Under the advice of.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
My attorneys, I will invoke my right under the fifth
Amendment of the Constitution to refrain from answering your questions.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Thank you. We will now begin a round of questioning.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Uh, doctor Foster, your testimony today is compelled by a
lawful subpoena.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
As you know, it's a crime under yes, so upon
advice of his attorney, Why do you think here's attorneys
advising him to do that? Right? I mean, and listen,
I'm not talking about a in a courtroom, a criminal
court room where somebody can assert their fifth et cetera.
But in this very public arena, this guy who used
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this public arena to inflict such harm in this nation?
Is they going to sit there and take the fifth?
And he can preface it every way he wants to.
I don't think they're about a handful of people in
this country will think he's taking the fifth for any
reason other than he is guilty. And I'm not a
guy who sits here and thinks that everybody who takes
the fifth and every context is guilty. Not at all.
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That would be a ludicrous statement. But doctor Fauci in
this context, yeah, I think it's because they've they've got
him cold. So then you get into these interesting questions,
and I'm sure we'll roll it out as we take
texts and calls and play more sound about that pardon.
You know, does that pardon hold? Because you're going to
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hear some sound from Josh Holly, who really does a
great job in this question, Josh Holly making the point
that wait a second, you've got a full pardon, you
can't take the fifth. We'll play that sound as well. Now,
obviously that will have to be litigated, and how far
will Congress go in litigating it. I hope they go
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very very far in litigating that here's a little bit
of Rand Paul to doctor Fauci. Regarding the lockdowns.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
You argue that you did not personally issue every lockdown, order,
close every school, or impose every mandate, but officials across
the country invoked your authority to justify these decisions, and
you presented your recommendations not as judgments open to debate,
but as dictates of science itself.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Your own words.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Demonstrate that you understood the influence you exercised. On March fourteenth,
twenty twenty, you wrote that the task force recommendations were
driven by me, yourself, deb and CDC. The next day,
you wrote that you had convinced Mayor Or Bill de
Blasio to close the New York City schools, so you
were involved. That same night, Governor Gavin Newsom's chief of
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staff told you that the governor had decided to close
California schools, bars and restaurants after watching you on television. Presidents, governors, mayors,
school boards, corporations, and congress all bear responsibility.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
For the decisions they made.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
The COVID lockdown, however, could never have been inflicted without
you aiding and abetting the crime.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
So very true, and the guy takes the fifth right,
and maybe maybe you'll say, well, that's punishment enough, right,
because he's been fully exposed now and the whole nation
can see what happened. And again, I'm not talking about
from a personal make Fauci feel pain standpoint now. I'm
talking about the lesson, the message, the deterrence that needs
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to be imposed nationwide. I don't think there's been enough
done here, and not even close yet, because let's face it,
it's the end of July, which I still can't believe.
We're almost in August, but it's the end of July.
Who's paying attention, right, I'm glad that you are. And
you've got this core of folks in this country very
dialed in, and they listen talk shows and they do
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this and that, and thank god we have that constituency
in this country. I think the founders were depending on
a constituency like that. But then we have a whole
lot of good people out there who are responsible people
and they do care. They're just not dialed in right
now that it's summer. So I think it'd be a
big mistake to think that that America broadly understands what
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has just been proven here. So where do you take
it from here three O three seven one three eight
two five five d an five seven seven through nine.
So we'll talk about that a bunch, and then I
do want to talk about Democrats at this point, citing
polls and claiming that they've got a real chance to
knock off both Lauren Bobert and Jeff Hurd. Do you
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believe that? Can you see that? And I mean I'm
not talking about hey R side versus their side cheerleader stuff,
but just realistically, in your heart of hearts, can you
see that unfolding in this cycle. I'd love your take
on that one or both getting knocked off, and either
would be just terrible for lots of reasons, including potential
control of the House. Three O three seven one three
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eight two five five d an five seven seven thirty nine.
And then Phil Wiser's response to the GOP nominee Victor
Marx statement that he will only debate once and it
will be with no moderator. You're on the Dan Capler Show.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Now back to the Dan Kapler Show podcast.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Until after the midterms.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
There's a report that Dancy terror Ken Martin was reported
to HR after he threw a phone in the direction
of a tenior staffer. Do you have confidence in Ken
Martin to lead your party as we are in such
a critical period for the midterm elections.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
The small teacher Ken Martin.
Speaker 7 (09:52):
Is going to be the leader of the DNC in
the very least through these elections. We are one hundred
days out in the high that we would change or have.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
A new election when we have elections.
Speaker 7 (10:03):
Coming up, would put far too much at risk. Yes,
the DNC is behind the rn C and fundraising, but
look at the DGA that I lead raising.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Money to win him. Yeah, I did dramatically behind the
RNC and fundraising, and the clip go on and we'll
play it to talk about that. So it's really interesting,
isn't it how all this shapes up. And I still
stand by my prediction that the GOP will lose the House,
and I really hope I'm wrong. And there's a much
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better chance today that I'm wrong about that than there
was two or three months ago. But boy, I really
hope I am wrong about that. And again, I know
it's hard to appreciate in the moment for any of us,
because all you know, the cycles so fast, But this
business of the Democratic Party just now openly embracing socialism.
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I've got to tell you, as a former Democrat, I
just think that is much much bigger than maybe Republicans
are given it credit for. And here's why, Because I
think if you were born a Republican, I was not.
I was born a Democrat. If you're born a Republican,
then you just, I mean, you just grow up knowing, Hey,
I think the Democrats are socialist. And that's just kind
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of there's just a lot of talk about that. It's
not a shock to the system if you grew up
a Democrat, but particularly the kind of Democrat I grew up,
which is I think how a lot of Democrats grew up,
which is a tremendous, patriotic, god fearing, great American family.
If you grew up in one of those Democrat families,
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of which there are many, then it's inconceivable to you
that the Democrat Party could be socialist. You know, all
your negative thoughts about a political party are about the GOP. Oh,
they care about a rich white people, and they don't
care about the weak and the powerless and this and that.
That's the view of Republicans for most Democrats, but you
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would never in a million years in a normal Democrat
family grow up thinking that the Democrats were socialists. So
that's the shock to the system that's going on now,
Not so much with Republicans who've always assumed. It's with
Democrats and unaffiliateds who lean toward Democrats. I'm just telling you,
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in the words of Joe Biden, this is a big
blanket deal. And and I think this kind of takes
all bets off the table for the midterms, this open
embrace of socialism, and as a subset of that, this
open embrace of anti Semitism, this hostility toward Israel, and
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this hostility implicitly toward our Jewish brothers and sisters. No,
that's not just normal political disagree and back and forth.
That kind of hate changes the equation. I can't look
in the eye and tell you three point five percent
or anything like that, but you know, it changes the equation.
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So I think I think the analysis of the mid
terms that existed, you know, two months ago, I think
that's off the table right now because of this socialism
slash anti semitism embraced by the Democratic Party. If you
think there's a flaw in that logic laid on me
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laid on me. But I think those bets are off
the table. Is it wishful thinking on my part? Maybe?
But I don't think so. I don't think so at all,
because logically, I mean, first you see what's unfolding, then
you see the cash discrepancy. I mean that that people
down on the mall right now, you know, playing the
flute are bringing in more money than the Democratic Party.
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You think that's a coincidence. I don't think that's a coincidence. Yes, so,
I think there is just not only in Colorado, a
nationally just great opportunity for the GOP. Okay, so why
do I sit here still believing the GOP is going
to lose the House. I think it's just because of
the normal flow right of the off year cycle, you know,
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combined with with this. I think it's if you're a
conservative like I am, if you voted for Trump like
I did, I think it's almost impossible for us to
understand the intensity, the depth, and breath of the hatred
for this president on the part of a lot of
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people who voted against him. My belief is is that
it's just illogical. I mean, I can understand some of
the personality objection stuff. But I say, I tried a
heartbeat for the policy stuff, but yeah, and it just
it runs so deep and it is so obse. I'm
not talking about your cooks like out in Portland. I'm
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talking about your otherwise normal people who are Democrats or
or who are Trump haters. That passion burns so brightly
that I just think that's going to carry Democrats to
It may be a narrow which would be better than
I thought it was going to be, you know, win
of the House in the fall. But that's what I
think because the passion on our side and by our side,
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I mean like kind of saying America, the passion on
our side is not as great when Trump's on the ballot.
You can see if there are so many Trump voters
who just aren't as motivated to show up. That's just
the proven reality. So I think we're running into that dynamic.
Doesn't mean we can't beat it again. This open embrace
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of socialism and anti Semitism by the Democratic Party that
has just recently exploded to the surface. Yeah, my hope
is that will change everything. This Fauci stuff. I hope
it does for some people. But again, coming in the
middle of summer. I don't see that. I don't see
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that changing the whole equation.
Speaker 8 (16:11):
The Democratic Party net favorability back in twenty eighteen. Back
in twenty eighteen, when Democrats were able to take control
the House, they were actually on the plus side the
elledger They were actually in positive territory at plus one point.
Look now in twenty twenty six, we're not just talking
down there underneath the Potomac. We're talking down there with
the Titanic. We're talking twenty four points underwater. And this
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is just the party overall. This isn't the congression leadership.
This is the party, the party. It's just a terrible, terrible,
terrible rent.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Harry Yet and I'm CNN right. So that proves my point,
doesn't it. That's where the hope comes from. Yeah, you
could take the best brand in the world. What do
you think the best brand in the world is zach
and I know it'll be different in different situations. What
do you think the best brand in the world is?
Speaker 9 (17:02):
Man like Nike, Coca Cola. Those immediately popped to mind,
fine associated with socialism. What do you think happens to
those companies who's wearing Nikes? You know, probably the entire
Democratic Party in Colorado. But who's wearing nikes?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
If all of a sudden, you know, you got the
hammer and sickle next to the swoosh, who's wearing nikes?
Like the famous Michael Jordan quote. What was that? Oh yeah, yeah,
Publicans too. But yeah, you can take the best brand
in the world and you associated with socialism, you will
kill it for the broader public. And Democrats weren't exactly
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the best brand in the world to start out with
Republicans that's sure not the best brand, but at least
Republicans aren't associated with socialism. So yeah, I think there's
something really really big happening here and and I think
things have changed for this Democratic Party. What's their way
out when we come back? Some red hot sound from
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the Founcy Hearing Today, where he continues to invoke the
fifth even when he's asked what color his tie is.
You're on the Dan Capitals Show.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
You're listening to the Dan Caplis Show podcast.
Speaker 10 (18:21):
Well, nothing says honesty like taking the fifth on doc.
Let's try something.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
What day of the week is it today?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
On the Divisive Council, I respectfully declined to and sab
based upon my rights under the Fifth.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Amendment to the Constitution.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
What color tie you wearing.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
On the advisive Council, I respectfully declined to and sub
based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.
Speaker 10 (18:47):
What color is the carpet in front of you.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
On the advisive council, I respectfully decline to and seb
based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Let's just get one thing straight.
Speaker 10 (18:58):
You don't have any rights under the Fifth Amendment because
you've been pardoned, as you very well know, as a
Supreme Court has been clear for a century and more,
Brown versus Walker eighteen ninety six. When he has been pardoned,
he may not stand upon his privilege. You know that
your lawyer as sitting behind you now shifting nervously on
their chairs.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
They know it.
Speaker 10 (19:17):
This isn't about the Constitution, This isn't about the law.
This is about contempt, contempt for this body, and contempt
for the American people.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Wow. That is really good. That is really really good.
So and it's great again, not from a personally vindictive standpoint, though,
like any honest person, you have to admit to some
anger toward doctor Fauci, But but just from the standpoint
of trying to send the message just won't be tolerated
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and deter others. But does it need to go further?
I think it does, because, let's face it, in middle
of summer, not a lot of people are paying attention
to this. Three or three seven, one, three eight two
five five d an five seven seven three nine. We have,
you know, the different media outlets on screen in the studio.
So at least CNN has a headline up. Fauci pleats
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the fifth one hundred plus times and hearing about COVID nineteen.
So the Senate, by the way, is going to vote
in a week about holding Fauci in contempt, and they
will vote to hold him in contempt, as they should,
and then we'll see where it continues to go in
the process. Now you know, Fauci is trying to say, oh,
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this is just all some weirdo obsession. Ran Paul has.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
During and after the COVID pandemic. I have appeared multiple
times for hearings in the Senate and the House, usually
under oaths, and sat for several days long transcribed sworn
interviews answering questions about.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
The very issues that are now the subject of this hearing.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
However, given Senator Poll's obvious obsession with calling for my prosecution,
his repeated slanderous comments about me, and recently his publicly
releasing my unredacted personal diary aimed at embarrassing and intimidating me,
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the only.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Conclusion I can reach is that the sole reason he
is calling me.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Before this committee is to get me to say something, anything,
that could vindicate his repeated public pledges that I end
up in his words quote behind bars unquote. Any reasonable
person who has followed his unkinged obsession with me would
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readily come to the same conclusion.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Do you think Fauci actually believes any of what he
just said? He might, right, he might, and it's obviously
utter nonsense. I mean, why does rand Paul have been
in front of the committee because they discovered blockbuster evidence
that proves Fauci to be a liar, that proves he
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gravely harmed this country when he knew that what he
was saying was untrue, that he lied repeatedly to the nation,
that's why he's in front of the hearing. And then
Fauci says, my private personal diary they found it on
a government server who keeps their private personal that well,
I guess Fauci does because he figures he's above everything, right. Wow.
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I just hope that there is a way to extend
this into the fall when America starts paying attention again,
and just make sure everybody, at least as close as
you can get to everybody, that everybody knows what happened
here and what the truth is and what's been exposed.
Cereal three someone three A two five five five seven
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seven thy nine. Let me work some text in here
and then I'll get back to this really fun sound, Dan,
you could see fraudshee Texter says, handshaking as he read
from his statement. Oh it's our friend, Alexi. Sadly, those
on the left in MSM refuse to recognize the massive
damage done by Fauci lying about quote science and seeking fame.
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What's encouraging to me and interesting is that CNN, you know,
and most of the so called mainstream media has been
burying this story, but really today they can't so CNN
doing an extended piece on it now, Dan, Why is
the dsa part of the Democratic Party? Aren't they really
their own organization? Senator Sanders isn't a registered Democrat. What
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a very wise text. They are recognized now as part
of the Democratic Party because the Democratic Party has embraced
them and has embraced their ideology, and so they are
more a part of the Democratic Party right now than
traditional Democrats like say that the vast majority of my
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extended family out of the state. They have taken over.
That's where the energy is, that's where everything's gravitating. Yeah.
So that's why the Democratic Party treats Democratic Socialists as
part of the Democratic Party, because they're large and in
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charge in lots of different places. Now, I mean, who
do you see in Colorado, Zach? Have I missed something?
Which of the prominent elected officials in Colorado, including their
candidate for governor, have distanced themselves from the Democrats Socialist Party?
Have I missed something? I haven't seen any of them
do it? I don't think I have yet to see it. Yeah. No,
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and we're not going to see it, because that is
the heart and soul of the Democratic Party in Colorado
right now. You think there's more enthusiasm for malat Kiros
and all her ugly anti Semitic stuff and all of
her raw toxic socialist stuff. Do you think there's more
enthusiasm for her in the Democratic Party or phil Wiser.
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She would have beat hicken Looper like a drum if
she had run against taking Looper, and she has probably
dislocated both of her legs kicking herself in the rear
for not taking on Nick and Looper. She would have
beat them like a drum. That's where they're at right now.
Texter to da n five seven seven three nine, Dan,
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I think the Democrats distancing themselves from Israel will help them.
Lots of dissatisfaction with how much money the US is
pouring into Israel's conflicts, and those dissatisfied constituents are looking
for candidates to push back. Respectfully disagree. I mean, first
of all, just look at the pole and we'll play
it again on the other side about favorability of Democrats.
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But no, here's why I disagree. Listen. I understand there
are plenty of good people both parties who have concerns
about the amount of damage that was done in Gaza
as Israel defended itself. I think the vast majority of informed,
reasonable people across party lines agree that Israel had to
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go into Gaza after October seven. But there are some
fair questions there in the minds of some people, I
believe Israel was acting in self defense, and after the
horrors of October seven, you know, the innocent blood that
was shed in Gaza is on the hands of Iran
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and has blind Ams in particular there so, But beyond that, no,
I think what you've got in America is first, I
think you have an awful lot of smart people who
understand the greatness of Israel. And no nation is going
to be perfect. But what Israel has been able to accomplish,
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survive and thrive with so many enemies that want to
destroy it, and all of the good it has done
for freedom in the world and for the US. I
think a lot of people see that. But the other
thing a lot of people on is you know, you've
still got a lot of Christians in this country. And yeah,
obviously we're Christians. We know Jesus Christ is Lord. But
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Israel Jews are big brothers in the faith, and I
think the vast majority of Christians do not want to
see the enemies of Israel succeed in wiping it off
the face of the earth as they promised to do.
So I think you've got this very loud minority which
has now taken over the Democratic Party with its jew
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hate and its Israel hate. And I don't think that's
mainstream at all, and I think it's really hurting Democrats
as it should. You're on the Dan Caplis Show.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
And now back to the Dan Happler's Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
It's his admissionsha. And here's the real thing.
Speaker 10 (28:04):
At the end of the day, it wasn't just about
the money, really wasn't It was really about a power trip.
I mean, through all of this, you want to be
the most famous scientists in the world. You were so
focused on getting every award and every drop of cash
that you could, all because you wanted to be on TV.
You wanted to be the sun God of science. You
wanted to be the guy who was in charge of
it all. You wanted to blam bass Trump. You wanted
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to make sure that nobody else stole your spotlight. You
wanted to be the guy you had time to sit
for in Style magazine.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Here's what you're doing with your time.
Speaker 10 (28:36):
You could sit for in Style magazine, but you can't
answer questions for the American people. You could sit for
in Style magazine, but you're here taking the fifth you
could sit for in Style magazine and get a million
bucks in cash awards. But now the cat's got your tongue.
I bet he does. I tell you what. Here's my
conclusion from all of this. This was really all about
(28:56):
you the whole time. Somewhere along the way you lost
your way. You have been a good public servant at
one time. I don't know, but I can tell you
from reading your emails now, from looking at what you did,
how you used your employees.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Somewhere along the line it became all about you.
Speaker 10 (29:10):
If you became a narcissist and a megalomaniac and a liar,
and you've lied to the American people, and you've lied
to this body, and you've disgraced your profession by doing it.
You called yourself the most famous scientist.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
In the world.
Speaker 10 (29:22):
You've done more to harm science than anybody in my lifetime.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
And I hope you'll go home and write that in
your diary. Boy, that is so well done by Josh Holly,
and would I would alter it a little bit. He
talks about how Foch you wanted to be the guy.
I think that felt you wanted to be a god.
I mean that I think that's really how he came
to see himself, not necessarily in the deity sense. So
I want to pull up during the break that bizarre
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comment he made, if I'm remembering correctly, about Catholicism, but
I think that's how he came to see himself. I mean,
and the pinnacle of it or the depths when somebody
he challenged him rightfully so and he said, you're challenging
science when you challenge me, you're challenging science, when the
whole time he knew it was a fraud. I mean,
that's what his diary is exposing. Yeah, but it's always
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been one of the most interesting things to me. And listen,
I start with myself. I start with understanding. I think
my own flaws and imperfections, and they are many. But
I look at these people, who I assume are otherwise
good people, who have made this deliberate decision to do
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things they know are very wrong and very harmful in
order to get power for themselves. And that's virtually every
elected official who supports abortion on demand. I can't believe
that there are one percent of these Democrats who really
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believe that abortion is anything other than the mass killing
of innocent human life. I can't believe that, but they're
willing to support it in exchange for power. Fauci was
willing to inflict all of that damage on tens of
millions of American school children, all for his own power
because the Left that the Left would glorify Fauci twenty
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four to seven and did as long as he was
helping them take down Trump. And he was willing to
trade the kids for his own power. And I love
the point Holly made about in Style magazine because I
made it at the same time it came out, which
is and I fell for the Fauci Act the first
two or three weeks, and then, you know, was quickly
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calling it for what it is, as most people were,
But I said it at the time when he's on
the front of InStyle magazine, Wait a second, there's something
really really wrong here doing that during COVID it just
told you what was really really motivating him. So wow,
I'm so glad what happened today happened. And that's a start.
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But we've just got to make sure every American hears
about it, and then hopefully it becomes an issue again
in the midterms and not predicting it will. I think
the dominant issue in the midterms are going to be
a few dominant dynamics. One is going to be this
big development with the Democrats now openly embracing socialism in
this anti Semitic garbage. All right, Dan, the magnitude of
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death and destruction calls for felt you to be punished
if possible, within the framework of the law that from
Steve in Littleton. We know there's going to be a
contempt of Congress coming up, and then you know the
reach of that immunity will be tested and mostly where
that goes. That's such a discrete area of law that
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I don't think any of us can sit here right
now and be sure that. I think Josh Holly was
correct that generally, when you've got an immunity deal, you
generally can't plead the Fifth. I think you'd get an
issue that arises as to whether Fout you would be
subject to some state prosecutions for things that he might
say in his testimony, and then maybe maybe he can
(33:08):
invoke the Fifth that way, Dan, Fout, you should rotten
Devil's paradise for what he did to us. All we
should have Nuremberg style trials for everyone involved in this farce.
You know, to play that idea out, and I'm not
saying we should, but to play that idea out. You know,
Polus has really skated on his horrible failures during COVID
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and the deception, the dishonesty, hiding. You know, there's been
so much tension as there should be, you know on
New York and Cromo and hiding what was happening in
nursing homes everything else. You go back and look at
what happened in Colorado. Polus was hiding really critical facts
from the people that we're jeopardizing people's house. Colorado was
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for a long long time. I talked about on air
every day. Colorado was in the very bottom bottom two,
three or four of states when it came to effective testing.
There were so many failures here. But again, you know,
the media just kind of covered for Polis. But I'm
not comparing him to Fauci, because Fauci is in not
a category of his own. We saw some really abusive
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public health officials, some good ones, but some really abusive ones,
but Fauci the most damaging by far. So we'll be
talking about all that. Let's see is there time to
squeeze in some more hollysound. It is so fair, he could.
There's so much great holly sound.
Speaker 10 (34:29):
Well, nothing says, honestly like taking the fifth I know.
Let's try something.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
What day of the week is it today?
Speaker 2 (34:38):
On the divisive Council, I, respectfully, the clients and SEB,
based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution.
Speaker 10 (34:45):
What color tie are you wearing?
Speaker 2 (34:48):
On the advisive Council, I, respectfully, the clients and SEB,
based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution?
Speaker 1 (34:55):
What color is the carpet in front of you?
Speaker 2 (34:58):
On the advisive Council, I respectfully decline to answer, based
upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Let's just get one things straight.
Speaker 10 (35:06):
You don't have any rights under the Fifth Amendment because
you've been pardoned, as you very well know, as the
Supreme Court has been clear for a century and more.
Brown versus Walker eighteen ninety six. When he has been pardoned,
he may not stand up.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
That's Josh holly.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
As somebody texting citing a Quinnipiac poll about US support
for Israel, they're offering that in support of their argument
that you know it's going to help Democrats to oppose Israel.
It's not. It's the opposite, and I'll prove it when
we come back here on the Den Caplish
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to
give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind,
and to subscribe, download, and listen to the show every
single day on your favorite podcast platform. I mean, this
is something, this is something so awful, so enormous. The
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consequence is so grave. We just can't let this become
what I think it's going to become, you know, which
is just another twenty four hour news cycle story. And
I'm really worried. One of the challenges we have right now,
just as people, as people together as a society, one
of the challenges we have is, you know, life is
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so fast in the news cycle, so fast that stuff
that really needs to stick and cannot be accepted as
the new normal just kind of goes away because we're
all so busy and attention spans are so short, and obviously,
when it comes to an issue like like doctor Fauci
was just corruption. I'm not saying necessarily criminally prosecutable corruption,
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but that was on a moral level, corruption that did
grave harm to this country what he did. It's just
so important to establish that cannot be the new normal.
Now the Democrats want to protect him for obvious reasons. Right,
he was a great ally in defeating President Trump because
only COVID could defeat Trump, and so Fauci, along with
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the Democrats, tried to make COVID as disruptive to this
nation as possible so Trump would be defeated. And then
Fauci had his other personal motivations. But this cannot just
be allowed to pass. And I don't mean it in
a vindictive kind of sense. You know, that's not how
I'm wired. I mean it in a justice kind of
sense for the good of the nation. I'm not sitting
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here saying no. Maybe you are, and if so, let's
have that conversation. I'm not being critical. Maybe you're sitting
there saying no, No, Fauci has to pay. Fauci has
to suffer just because of what he did. I'm not
so concerned with making him suffer individually, though what he
did was horrific, as I am with the deterrence and
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the message it sends to society, because you have an
awful lot of people, and let's start with public health roles,
and we saw some good ones, but we saw a
lot of power drunk awful ones during COVID, and the
message has to be sent first to that whole industry
that you cannot do what Fauci did without there being
enormously severe consequences. So where should that go? And let
(02:35):
me start with this broader question. Then we'll start to
drill down on it. But the broader question is what
do you think do you think that if there is
an applicable criminal statue and it carries jail time, is
it very important to the health of this nation and
to our future that he actually goes to jail. That's
(02:57):
a question. I'd love to get your take on it.
Zach will open up those phone lines so our wonderful
callers will flood us with calls. And hey, listen, we
all know that the new era of talk radio is
they just get a lot of people who text it
in instead. And that's okay. We'll take those two d
an five, seven, seventh through nine. I have to admit
I've become really fond of text as long as people
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keep them short, because it lets you cover a lot
of stuff in a hurry, and I think a lot
of people I just feel more free. Of course, you
get the keyboard cowards, right, who will never call and disagree,
and as long as they're anonymous on a keyboard, they'll
say this or that. Fine, what do I care? Take
your best shot, But you can text us d an
five seven seven three nine. So this paragon of virtue, right,
(03:43):
he is science. If you question him, you question science.
How did anybody ever take him seriously for a millisecond
after that? But yeah, I's taking the fifth.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Therefore, although it pains me to do so, respect I
have for.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
The legislative branch.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Of government and my decades long record of cooperating with Congress.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Under the advice of.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
My attorneys, I will invoke my right under the fifth
Amendment of the Constitution to refrain from answering your questions.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Thank you. We will now begin a round of questioning.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Uh, doctor Foster, your testimony today is compelled by a
lawful subpoena.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
As you know, it's a crime under yes, so upon
advice of his attorney, Why do you think here's attorneys
advising him to do that? Right? I mean, and listen,
I'm not talking about a in a courtroom, a criminal
court room where somebody can assert their fifth et cetera.
But in this very public arena, this guy who used
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this public arena to inflict such harm in this nation?
Is they going to sit there and take the fifth?
And he can preface it every way he wants to.
I don't think they're about a handful of people in
this country will think he's taking the fifth for any
reason other than he is guilty. And I'm not a
guy who sits here and thinks that everybody who takes
the fifth and every context is guilty. Not at all.
(05:16):
That would be a ludicrous statement. But doctor Fauci in
this context, yeah, I think it's because they've they've got
him cold. So then you get into these interesting questions,
and I'm sure we'll roll it out as we take
texts and calls and play more sound about that pardon.
You know, does that pardon hold? Because you're going to
(05:39):
hear some sound from Josh Holly, who really does a
great job in this question, Josh Holly making the point
that wait a second, you've got a full pardon, you
can't take the fifth. We'll play that sound as well. Now,
obviously that will have to be litigated, and how far
will Congress go in litigating it. I hope they go
(05:59):
very very far in litigating that here's a little bit
of Rand Paul to doctor Fauci. Regarding the lockdowns.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
You argue that you did not personally issue every lockdown, order,
close every school, or impose every mandate, but officials across
the country invoked your authority to justify these decisions, and
you presented your recommendations not as judgments open to debate,
but as dictates of science itself.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Your own words.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Demonstrate that you understood the influence you exercised. On March fourteenth,
twenty twenty, you wrote that the task force recommendations were
driven by me, yourself, deb and CDC. The next day,
you wrote that you had convinced Mayor Or Bill de
Blasio to close the New York City schools, so you
were involved. That same night, Governor Gavin Newsom's chief of
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staff told you that the governor had decided to close
California schools, bars and restaurants after watching you on television. Presidents, governors, mayors,
school boards, corporations, and congress all bear responsibility.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
For the decisions they made.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
The COVID lockdown, however, could never have been inflicted without
you aiding and abetting the crime.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
So very true, and the guy takes the fifth right,
and maybe maybe you'll say, well, that's punishment enough, right,
because he's been fully exposed now and the whole nation
can see what happened. And again, I'm not talking about
from a personal make Fauci feel pain standpoint now. I'm
talking about the lesson, the message, the deterrence that needs
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to be imposed nationwide. I don't think there's been enough
done here, and not even close yet, because let's face it,
it's the end of July, which I still can't believe.
We're almost in August, but it's the end of July.
Who's paying attention, right, I'm glad that you are. And
you've got this core of folks in this country very
dialed in, and they listen talk shows and they do
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this and that, and thank god we have that constituency
in this country. I think the founders were depending on
a constituency like that. But then we have a whole
lot of good people out there who are responsible people
and they do care. They're just not dialed in right
now that it's summer. So I think it'd be a
big mistake to think that that America broadly understands what
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has just been proven here. So where do you take
it from here three O three seven one three eight
two five five d an five seven seven through nine.
So we'll talk about that a bunch, and then I
do want to talk about Democrats at this point, citing
polls and claiming that they've got a real chance to
knock off both Lauren Bobert and Jeff Hurd. Do you
(08:47):
believe that? Can you see that? And I mean I'm
not talking about hey R side versus their side cheerleader stuff,
but just realistically, in your heart of hearts, can you
see that unfolding in this cycle. I'd love your take
on that one or both getting knocked off, and either
would be just terrible for lots of reasons, including potential
control of the House. Three O three seven one three
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eight two five five d an five seven seven thirty nine.
And then Phil Wiser's response to the GOP nominee Victor
Marx statement that he will only debate once and it
will be with no moderator. You're on the Dan Capler Show.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Now back to the Dan Kapler Show podcast.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Until after the midterms.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
There's a report that Dancy terror Ken Martin was reported
to HR after he threw a phone in the direction
of a tenior staffer. Do you have confidence in Ken
Martin to lead your party as we are in such
a critical period for the midterm elections.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
The small teacher Ken Martin.
Speaker 7 (09:52):
Is going to be the leader of the DNC in
the very least through these elections. We are one hundred
days out in the high that we would change or have.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
A new election when we have elections.
Speaker 7 (10:03):
Coming up, would put far too much at risk. Yes,
the DNC is behind the rn C and fundraising, but
look at the DGA that I lead raising.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Money to win him. Yeah, I did dramatically behind the
RNC and fundraising, and the clip go on and we'll
play it to talk about that. So it's really interesting,
isn't it how all this shapes up. And I still
stand by my prediction that the GOP will lose the House,
and I really hope I'm wrong. And there's a much
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better chance today that I'm wrong about that than there
was two or three months ago. But boy, I really
hope I am wrong about that. And again, I know
it's hard to appreciate in the moment for any of us,
because all you know, the cycles so fast, But this
business of the Democratic Party just now openly embracing socialism.
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I've got to tell you, as a former Democrat, I
just think that is much much bigger than maybe Republicans
are given it credit for. And here's why, Because I
think if you were born a Republican, I was not.
I was born a Democrat. If you're born a Republican,
then you just, I mean, you just grow up knowing, Hey,
I think the Democrats are socialist. And that's just kind
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of there's just a lot of talk about that. It's
not a shock to the system if you grew up
a Democrat, but particularly the kind of Democrat I grew up,
which is I think how a lot of Democrats grew up,
which is a tremendous, patriotic, god fearing, great American family.
If you grew up in one of those Democrat families,
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of which there are many, then it's inconceivable to you
that the Democrat Party could be socialist. You know, all
your negative thoughts about a political party are about the GOP. Oh,
they care about a rich white people, and they don't
care about the weak and the powerless and this and that.
That's the view of Republicans for most Democrats, but you
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would never in a million years in a normal Democrat
family grow up thinking that the Democrats were socialists. So
that's the shock to the system that's going on now,
Not so much with Republicans who've always assumed. It's with
Democrats and unaffiliateds who lean toward Democrats. I'm just telling you,
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in the words of Joe Biden, this is a big
blanket deal. And and I think this kind of takes
all bets off the table for the midterms, this open
embrace of socialism, and as a subset of that, this
open embrace of anti Semitism, this hostility toward Israel, and
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this hostility implicitly toward our Jewish brothers and sisters. No,
that's not just normal political disagree and back and forth.
That kind of hate changes the equation. I can't look
in the eye and tell you three point five percent
or anything like that, but you know, it changes the equation.
(13:10):
So I think I think the analysis of the mid
terms that existed, you know, two months ago, I think
that's off the table right now because of this socialism
slash anti semitism embraced by the Democratic Party. If you
think there's a flaw in that logic laid on me
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laid on me. But I think those bets are off
the table. Is it wishful thinking on my part? Maybe?
But I don't think so. I don't think so at all,
because logically, I mean, first you see what's unfolding, then
you see the cash discrepancy. I mean that that people
down on the mall right now, you know, playing the
flute are bringing in more money than the Democratic Party.
(13:54):
You think that's a coincidence. I don't think that's a coincidence. Yes, so,
I think there is just not only in Colorado, a
nationally just great opportunity for the GOP. Okay, so why
do I sit here still believing the GOP is going
to lose the House. I think it's just because of
the normal flow right of the off year cycle, you know,
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combined with with this. I think it's if you're a
conservative like I am, if you voted for Trump like
I did, I think it's almost impossible for us to
understand the intensity, the depth, and breath of the hatred
for this president on the part of a lot of
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people who voted against him. My belief is is that
it's just illogical. I mean, I can understand some of
the personality objection stuff. But I say, I tried a
heartbeat for the policy stuff, but yeah, and it just
it runs so deep and it is so obse. I'm
not talking about your cooks like out in Portland. I'm
(15:03):
talking about your otherwise normal people who are Democrats or
or who are Trump haters. That passion burns so brightly
that I just think that's going to carry Democrats to
It may be a narrow which would be better than
I thought it was going to be, you know, win
of the House in the fall. But that's what I
think because the passion on our side and by our side,
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I mean like kind of saying America, the passion on
our side is not as great when Trump's on the ballot.
You can see if there are so many Trump voters
who just aren't as motivated to show up. That's just
the proven reality. So I think we're running into that dynamic.
Doesn't mean we can't beat it again. This open embrace
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of socialism and anti Semitism by the Democratic Party that
has just recently exploded to the surface. Yeah, my hope
is that will change everything. This Fauci stuff. I hope
it does for some people. But again, coming in the
middle of summer. I don't see that. I don't see
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that changing the whole equation.
Speaker 8 (16:11):
The Democratic Party net favorability back in twenty eighteen. Back
in twenty eighteen, when Democrats were able to take control
the House, they were actually on the plus side the
elledger They were actually in positive territory at plus one point.
Look now in twenty twenty six, we're not just talking
down there underneath the Potomac. We're talking down there with
the Titanic. We're talking twenty four points underwater. And this
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is just the party overall. This isn't the congression leadership.
This is the party, the party. It's just a terrible, terrible,
terrible rent.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Harry Yet and I'm CNN right. So that proves my point,
doesn't it. That's where the hope comes from. Yeah, you
could take the best brand in the world. What do
you think the best brand in the world is zach
and I know it'll be different in different situations. What
do you think the best brand in the world is?
Speaker 9 (17:02):
Man like Nike, Coca Cola. Those immediately popped to mind,
fine associated with socialism. What do you think happens to
those companies who's wearing Nikes? You know, probably the entire
Democratic Party in Colorado. But who's wearing nikes?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
If all of a sudden, you know, you got the
hammer and sickle next to the swoosh, who's wearing nikes?
Like the famous Michael Jordan quote. What was that? Oh yeah, yeah,
Publicans too. But yeah, you can take the best brand
in the world and you associated with socialism, you will
kill it for the broader public. And Democrats weren't exactly
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the best brand in the world to start out with
Republicans that's sure not the best brand, but at least
Republicans aren't associated with socialism. So yeah, I think there's
something really really big happening here and and I think
things have changed for this Democratic Party. What's their way
out when we come back? Some red hot sound from
(18:03):
the Founcy Hearing Today, where he continues to invoke the
fifth even when he's asked what color his tie is.
You're on the Dan Capitals Show.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
You're listening to the Dan Caplis Show podcast.
Speaker 10 (18:21):
Well, nothing says honesty like taking the fifth on doc.
Let's try something.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
What day of the week is it today?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
On the Divisive Council, I respectfully declined to and sab
based upon my rights under the Fifth.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Amendment to the Constitution.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
What color tie you wearing.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
On the advisive Council, I respectfully declined to and sub
based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.
Speaker 10 (18:47):
What color is the carpet in front of you.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
On the advisive council, I respectfully decline to and seb
based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Let's just get one thing straight.
Speaker 10 (18:58):
You don't have any rights under the Fifth Amendment because
you've been pardoned, as you very well know, as a
Supreme Court has been clear for a century and more,
Brown versus Walker eighteen ninety six. When he has been pardoned,
he may not stand upon his privilege. You know that
your lawyer as sitting behind you now shifting nervously on
their chairs.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
They know it.
Speaker 10 (19:17):
This isn't about the Constitution, This isn't about the law.
This is about contempt, contempt for this body, and contempt
for the American people.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Wow. That is really good. That is really really good.
So and it's great again, not from a personally vindictive standpoint, though,
like any honest person, you have to admit to some
anger toward doctor Fauci, But but just from the standpoint
of trying to send the message just won't be tolerated
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and deter others. But does it need to go further?
I think it does, because, let's face it, in middle
of summer, not a lot of people are paying attention
to this. Three or three seven, one, three eight two
five five d an five seven seven three nine. We have,
you know, the different media outlets on screen in the studio.
So at least CNN has a headline up. Fauci pleats
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the fifth one hundred plus times and hearing about COVID nineteen.
So the Senate, by the way, is going to vote
in a week about holding Fauci in contempt, and they
will vote to hold him in contempt, as they should,
and then we'll see where it continues to go in
the process. Now you know, Fauci is trying to say, oh,
(20:26):
this is just all some weirdo obsession. Ran Paul has.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
During and after the COVID pandemic. I have appeared multiple
times for hearings in the Senate and the House, usually
under oaths, and sat for several days long transcribed sworn
interviews answering questions about.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
The very issues that are now the subject of this hearing.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
However, given Senator Poll's obvious obsession with calling for my prosecution,
his repeated slanderous comments about me, and recently his publicly
releasing my unredacted personal diary aimed at embarrassing and intimidating me,
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the only.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Conclusion I can reach is that the sole reason he
is calling me.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Before this committee is to get me to say something, anything,
that could vindicate his repeated public pledges that I end
up in his words quote behind bars unquote. Any reasonable
person who has followed his unkinged obsession with me would
(21:53):
readily come to the same conclusion.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Do you think Fauci actually believes any of what he
just said? He might, right, he might, and it's obviously
utter nonsense. I mean, why does rand Paul have been
in front of the committee because they discovered blockbuster evidence
that proves Fauci to be a liar, that proves he
(22:16):
gravely harmed this country when he knew that what he
was saying was untrue, that he lied repeatedly to the nation,
that's why he's in front of the hearing. And then
Fauci says, my private personal diary they found it on
a government server who keeps their private personal that well,
I guess Fauci does because he figures he's above everything, right. Wow.
(22:42):
I just hope that there is a way to extend
this into the fall when America starts paying attention again,
and just make sure everybody, at least as close as
you can get to everybody, that everybody knows what happened
here and what the truth is and what's been exposed.
Cereal three someone three A two five five five seven
(23:03):
seven thy nine. Let me work some text in here
and then I'll get back to this really fun sound, Dan,
you could see fraudshee Texter says, handshaking as he read
from his statement. Oh it's our friend, Alexi. Sadly, those
on the left in MSM refuse to recognize the massive
damage done by Fauci lying about quote science and seeking fame.
(23:23):
What's encouraging to me and interesting is that CNN, you know,
and most of the so called mainstream media has been
burying this story, but really today they can't so CNN
doing an extended piece on it now, Dan, Why is
the dsa part of the Democratic Party? Aren't they really
their own organization? Senator Sanders isn't a registered Democrat. What
(23:44):
a very wise text. They are recognized now as part
of the Democratic Party because the Democratic Party has embraced
them and has embraced their ideology, and so they are
more a part of the Democratic Party right now than
traditional Democrats like say that the vast majority of my
(24:05):
extended family out of the state. They have taken over.
That's where the energy is, that's where everything's gravitating. Yeah.
So that's why the Democratic Party treats Democratic Socialists as
part of the Democratic Party, because they're large and in
(24:25):
charge in lots of different places. Now, I mean, who
do you see in Colorado, Zach? Have I missed something?
Which of the prominent elected officials in Colorado, including their
candidate for governor, have distanced themselves from the Democrats Socialist Party?
Have I missed something? I haven't seen any of them
do it? I don't think I have yet to see it. Yeah. No,
(24:48):
and we're not going to see it, because that is
the heart and soul of the Democratic Party in Colorado
right now. You think there's more enthusiasm for malat Kiros
and all her ugly anti Semitic stuff and all of
her raw toxic socialist stuff. Do you think there's more
enthusiasm for her in the Democratic Party or phil Wiser.
(25:11):
She would have beat hicken Looper like a drum if
she had run against taking Looper, and she has probably
dislocated both of her legs kicking herself in the rear
for not taking on Nick and Looper. She would have
beat them like a drum. That's where they're at right now.
Texter to da n five seven seven three nine, Dan,
(25:34):
I think the Democrats distancing themselves from Israel will help them.
Lots of dissatisfaction with how much money the US is
pouring into Israel's conflicts, and those dissatisfied constituents are looking
for candidates to push back. Respectfully disagree. I mean, first
of all, just look at the pole and we'll play
it again on the other side about favorability of Democrats.
(25:54):
But no, here's why I disagree. Listen. I understand there
are plenty of good people both parties who have concerns
about the amount of damage that was done in Gaza
as Israel defended itself. I think the vast majority of informed,
reasonable people across party lines agree that Israel had to
(26:17):
go into Gaza after October seven. But there are some
fair questions there in the minds of some people, I
believe Israel was acting in self defense, and after the
horrors of October seven, you know, the innocent blood that
was shed in Gaza is on the hands of Iran
(26:37):
and has blind Ams in particular there so, But beyond that, no,
I think what you've got in America is first, I
think you have an awful lot of smart people who
understand the greatness of Israel. And no nation is going
to be perfect. But what Israel has been able to accomplish,
(26:59):
survive and thrive with so many enemies that want to
destroy it, and all of the good it has done
for freedom in the world and for the US. I
think a lot of people see that. But the other
thing a lot of people on is you know, you've
still got a lot of Christians in this country. And yeah,
obviously we're Christians. We know Jesus Christ is Lord. But
(27:23):
Israel Jews are big brothers in the faith, and I
think the vast majority of Christians do not want to
see the enemies of Israel succeed in wiping it off
the face of the earth as they promised to do.
So I think you've got this very loud minority which
has now taken over the Democratic Party with its jew
(27:45):
hate and its Israel hate. And I don't think that's
mainstream at all, and I think it's really hurting Democrats
as it should. You're on the Dan Caplis Show.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
And now back to the Dan Happler's Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
It's his admissionsha. And here's the real thing.
Speaker 10 (28:04):
At the end of the day, it wasn't just about
the money, really wasn't It was really about a power trip.
I mean, through all of this, you want to be
the most famous scientists in the world. You were so
focused on getting every award and every drop of cash
that you could, all because you wanted to be on TV.
You wanted to be the sun God of science. You
wanted to be the guy who was in charge of
it all. You wanted to blam bass Trump. You wanted
(28:27):
to make sure that nobody else stole your spotlight. You
wanted to be the guy you had time to sit
for in Style magazine.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Here's what you're doing with your time.
Speaker 10 (28:36):
You could sit for in Style magazine, but you can't
answer questions for the American people. You could sit for
in Style magazine, but you're here taking the fifth you
could sit for in Style magazine and get a million
bucks in cash awards. But now the cat's got your tongue.
I bet he does. I tell you what. Here's my
conclusion from all of this. This was really all about
(28:56):
you the whole time. Somewhere along the way you lost
your way. You have been a good public servant at
one time. I don't know, but I can tell you
from reading your emails now, from looking at what you did,
how you used your employees.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Somewhere along the line it became all about you.
Speaker 10 (29:10):
If you became a narcissist and a megalomaniac and a liar,
and you've lied to the American people, and you've lied
to this body, and you've disgraced your profession by doing it.
You called yourself the most famous scientist.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
In the world.
Speaker 10 (29:22):
You've done more to harm science than anybody in my lifetime.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
And I hope you'll go home and write that in
your diary. Boy, that is so well done by Josh Holly,
and would I would alter it a little bit. He
talks about how Foch you wanted to be the guy.
I think that felt you wanted to be a god.
I mean that I think that's really how he came
to see himself, not necessarily in the deity sense. So
I want to pull up during the break that bizarre
(29:48):
comment he made, if I'm remembering correctly, about Catholicism, but
I think that's how he came to see himself. I mean,
and the pinnacle of it or the depths when somebody
he challenged him rightfully so and he said, you're challenging
science when you challenge me, you're challenging science, when the
whole time he knew it was a fraud. I mean,
that's what his diary is exposing. Yeah, but it's always
(30:13):
been one of the most interesting things to me. And listen,
I start with myself. I start with understanding. I think
my own flaws and imperfections, and they are many. But
I look at these people, who I assume are otherwise
good people, who have made this deliberate decision to do
(30:33):
things they know are very wrong and very harmful in
order to get power for themselves. And that's virtually every
elected official who supports abortion on demand. I can't believe
that there are one percent of these Democrats who really
(30:54):
believe that abortion is anything other than the mass killing
of innocent human life. I can't believe that, but they're
willing to support it in exchange for power. Fauci was
willing to inflict all of that damage on tens of
millions of American school children, all for his own power
because the Left that the Left would glorify Fauci twenty
(31:18):
four to seven and did as long as he was
helping them take down Trump. And he was willing to
trade the kids for his own power. And I love
the point Holly made about in Style magazine because I
made it at the same time it came out, which
is and I fell for the Fauci Act the first
two or three weeks, and then, you know, was quickly
(31:39):
calling it for what it is, as most people were,
But I said it at the time when he's on
the front of InStyle magazine, Wait a second, there's something
really really wrong here doing that during COVID it just
told you what was really really motivating him. So wow,
I'm so glad what happened today happened. And that's a start.
(32:00):
But we've just got to make sure every American hears
about it, and then hopefully it becomes an issue again
in the midterms and not predicting it will. I think
the dominant issue in the midterms are going to be
a few dominant dynamics. One is going to be this
big development with the Democrats now openly embracing socialism in
this anti Semitic garbage. All right, Dan, the magnitude of
(32:24):
death and destruction calls for felt you to be punished
if possible, within the framework of the law that from
Steve in Littleton. We know there's going to be a
contempt of Congress coming up, and then you know the
reach of that immunity will be tested and mostly where
that goes. That's such a discrete area of law that
(32:47):
I don't think any of us can sit here right
now and be sure that. I think Josh Holly was
correct that generally, when you've got an immunity deal, you
generally can't plead the Fifth. I think you'd get an
issue that arises as to whether Fout you would be
subject to some state prosecutions for things that he might
say in his testimony, and then maybe maybe he can
(33:08):
invoke the Fifth that way, Dan, Fout, you should rotten
Devil's paradise for what he did to us. All we
should have Nuremberg style trials for everyone involved in this farce.
You know, to play that idea out, and I'm not
saying we should, but to play that idea out. You know,
Polus has really skated on his horrible failures during COVID
(33:30):
and the deception, the dishonesty, hiding. You know, there's been
so much tension as there should be, you know on
New York and Cromo and hiding what was happening in
nursing homes everything else. You go back and look at
what happened in Colorado. Polus was hiding really critical facts
from the people that we're jeopardizing people's house. Colorado was
(33:51):
for a long long time. I talked about on air
every day. Colorado was in the very bottom bottom two,
three or four of states when it came to effective testing.
There were so many failures here. But again, you know,
the media just kind of covered for Polis. But I'm
not comparing him to Fauci, because Fauci is in not
a category of his own. We saw some really abusive
(34:11):
public health officials, some good ones, but some really abusive ones,
but Fauci the most damaging by far. So we'll be
talking about all that. Let's see is there time to
squeeze in some more hollysound. It is so fair, he could.
There's so much great holly sound.
Speaker 10 (34:29):
Well, nothing says, honestly like taking the fifth I know.
Let's try something.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
What day of the week is it today?
Speaker 2 (34:38):
On the divisive Council, I, respectfully, the clients and SEB,
based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution.
Speaker 10 (34:45):
What color tie are you wearing?
Speaker 2 (34:48):
On the advisive Council, I, respectfully, the clients and SEB,
based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution?
Speaker 1 (34:55):
What color is the carpet in front of you?
Speaker 2 (34:58):
On the advisive Council, I respectfully decline to answer, based
upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Let's just get one things straight.
Speaker 10 (35:06):
You don't have any rights under the Fifth Amendment because
you've been pardoned, as you very well know, as the
Supreme Court has been clear for a century and more.
Brown versus Walker eighteen ninety six. When he has been pardoned,
he may not stand up.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
That's Josh holly.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
As somebody texting citing a Quinnipiac poll about US support
for Israel, they're offering that in support of their argument
that you know it's going to help Democrats to oppose Israel.
It's not. It's the opposite, and I'll prove it when
we come back here on the Den Caplish
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