May 30, 2025 • 35 mins
The Supreme Court of the United States overturns a lower court ruling on whether or not President Trump can deport foreign nationals from specific countries like Cuba or Venezuela based on their immigration status.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
I've been better than fighting on a Friday, right, Glad
you're here.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
What a beautiful weekend to have most of Colorado, certainly
across the front range, and Sunday might be the nicest
day of the earth. Think it's supposed to be about
what eighty five beautiful sunny, So no better place to
be three or three someone three A two five five
the number techs d an five seven, seven, three nine,
So fire at will really on anything and everything.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I really do want to follow.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Up though, on this thing we got off on yesterday,
which is that the top ten heroes in Colorado history.
We get some really interesting techs, some of the folks
I'd heard of, some I have, And obviously we talk
all the time on this show about the Kendrick Castillo.
He's got to be way up near the top, right,
Dave Sanders and start talking about top ten heroes in
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the history of the state. Obviously, everybody could be number one,
but we're just talking about the people who have engaged
in these different forms of heroic acts and also really
symbolize and represent the best of us. So I want
to keep that conversation going, and that of course inevitably
will lead to old math, you know, out at DiiA,
(01:24):
because when you stop and think about this beautiful prime location,
the single best location in the entire state of Colorado
for public art, and what do we use it to
honor a horse?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
On math?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
It makes no sense at all when you think about
all these true heroes in Colorado. They're Republicans, they're Democrats,
they're inn affiliated as politics doesn't matter. But we choose
to use that spot to honor Satan's steed.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
We got to change that one of these days.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
But let's talk about those top ten heroes and then
other ways we can honor them. Because one thing that's
always driven me a little bit crazy is why in
the world are we naming major roadways, major buildings, et
cetera after politicians, especially living politicians. Why would we do that?
Right now, I understand there are some figures in political
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history who you've got to name stuff after, right because
they were that large and had that much impact. But
come on, are and some of these have been really
good people, right others have been okay, some of them bad.
But for each and every one of these streets or
buildings named after a former government official, we must have
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fifty to one hundred Colorado heroes who should be on
the list before them, right three at three seven, three eight,
two five five the numbers. So I want to talk
about all that with you see who's on that top ten?
Who you would want to see? What named after?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
You know?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
What highway? What building?
Speaker 4 (02:51):
What? This?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Should we be taking any names off of roadways, off
of buildings? And I'm not real big on that necessarily,
but I think it's open for conversation. Three h three
someone three eight two five five takes d a n
five seven seven three nine. Joe Biden reappeared today. We'll
get to that in a second. I think the first
question there is is why. I mean, I really I
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wish him good health. Obviously, he's suffering from prostate cancer
and that's very sad, and my guess his has been
for a long time and they hid that from us too.
But I wish him nothing but peaceful and hopefully as
pain free as possible remaining days, but he insists on
being back on the public scenes, so we are obligated
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to cover it. But there has never been a funnier president, right,
I mean, it's not even close. And Ryan, even Woodrow
Wilson wasn't this funny, right, I mean, truly, there's never
been anybody close to Trump.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Here's the latest on Macrone.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
And if if you haven't seen the video of Macron
getting punched by his wife or how would you describe it,
slap tard, punched, shoved, Yeah, she pushed it his face,
all of the above, if you haven't seen that video.
But I've got to tell you Macrone handled it so
(04:09):
great because it happened just as the door to the
plane opens. If you haven't seen it, he's right there
on video and then he realizes, Okay, I've just been
shoved in the face by my wife on camera. And
he handled it great, just got a big smile on
his face. And you gotta gotta be impressed with that.
But funniest president ever, right. Trump chimed in on this,
(04:32):
President Trump.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
This week there was a video on board a plane
that showed the First Lady of France slapping her husband,
Emmanuel mccrumme, do you have any world leaders, world leader
marital advice?
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Make sure the door remains flowing. Good. I spoke to
him and he's fine to ye're fine. There are two
really good people. I know him very well, and I
don't know that was all about. But I know him
very well and they're fine.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Keep the door closed, right. I gotta tell you know,
maybe it's a French thing.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
If it is, it's bad.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I could not imagine Ryan in one hundred thousand years,
my wife or myself ever hitting the other in anger.
It's just inconceivable, unimaginable. It's yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Well, there's there's two parts to this too.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
There's that and even behind closed doors in your own
home you couldn't imagine it, but certainly not in public
where people could see it.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
And that's the other part.
Speaker 6 (05:39):
I'm sure there have been moments where Malania has been
frustrated by President Trump, but she's dignified and gracious, and
you've seen her from time to time she'll kind of
laugh or roll her eyes about something he says.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Now, maybe behind closed doors she gives him a little
bit of a stress punch.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
No, I don't think she resorts that I don't know,
but yeah, I would think she might have some more
choice words for him behind the scenes that they have
them moment.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Talking about the physical stuff, right because America, I mean
just and it's a great thing, right, but our culture
that is just strictly taboo. I mean, that's like incest.
You do not you do not hit a woman. And
I don't think many wives hit their husbands. Maybe there
are some relationships where that's just kind of common and
that's how they blow off steam. If that's the case,
(06:24):
I think they should talk to their criminal attorneys and
their marriage counselors maybe together. But yeah, that's just not
an American thing, and that is a good thing that
it's a French thing either though.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
It was very strange when you watch it happen in
real time, and I agree with you, Emmanuel macroan.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
He handled pretty well. He kind of this shocked look.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
On his face and smiled like, oh, I don't know
what that was about, but all right, yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
What do you think must happen to him the rest
of the time.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
She's willing to do that?
Speaker 6 (06:50):
Well, a full view of everybody else, then you can
only imagine the Nightmarre's dealing with behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, wow speak since.
Speaker 7 (07:01):
So.
Speaker 8 (07:03):
Uh, My parents went to France a long time ago
and they were at a restaurant and three couples, one
through their glass of wine at their husband. One got
up and slapped him exactly in the face.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Did this group know each other?
Speaker 8 (07:24):
It looked like they were couples, and so my parents
were kind of like shocked.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
That is this the culture?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Is this weird? I don't know.
Speaker 8 (07:33):
But the third couple, this was the best one. They
got into such a heated argument. They were actually dismissed
from the restaurant.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Wow, exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
The cultural thing, huh, I would justify anything physically really culture.
Speaker 8 (07:49):
But if you remember, Trump said in one of his
rallies talking about Millennia, when she gets mad at him,
she says, darling. If you're remember, because they call each
other darling, So she prefaces everything with darling, you know,
kind of that's her trigger thing of you're being it.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
Yeah, sure, yeah, you caught yourself there.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah no, that's wow. Yeah, No, it's here's Trump again
on this. This this is one of my instant favorites
President Trump.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
This week, there was a video on board a plane
that showed the first lady.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Oh, I wanted to play this thing. Her heart's that good.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Emmanuel McCrum, do you have any world leaders, world leader
marital in life?
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Make sure the door remains flower. That was not good.
And I spoke to him and he's he's fine too.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, it was that good. I wanted to play it twice. Truly,
often I'll play things twice by accident. I wanted to
hear that again. Honestly, I think it's one reason he
won both times, and it's another reason both terms are
being very successful. Is he's so funny. It's it's interesting,
isn't It's the way we were created. Hey, why do
you think the Almighty did it that way? And I'm
(09:06):
not trying to get religious or philosophical, just practical. Why
do you think we were wired that way?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
That?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
That humor is this big door opener? What do you
think the caveman jokes were?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I mean, who do you think that? But obviously right,
we were created this way.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Ryan, unless somebody's a psychopath, everybody responds well to humor,
and our humor may differ a little bit, but everybody
responds well to humor. Three or three someone three eight
two five five, which means we need some Rodney dangerfield
this afternoon right here on the Dankpla Show.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
And now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast.
Speaker 9 (09:42):
We have some breaking news just in from the Supreme Court.
This is a seven to two ruling involving justices now
allowing the Trump administration to revoke protected status for half
a million immigrants from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela while
the appeals process plays is out.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Gary Phillison three or three someone three eight two five
five takes d A and five seven seven three nine.
We'll talk about that in some more detail. Boy of
Friday lots to two and we're continuing the Hey Greatest Heroes,
Top ten Heroes in Colorado History. Also, what names do
you want to see taken off of roadways and buildings
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and replaced with whom?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Right?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Because it really it makes no sense at all, does
it that we're naming buildings and roadways after living politicians?
And if we're going to do that that, then where's
where's whatever named after Bill Owens?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Right?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
You want to talk about one of the most successful
governors in Colorado history. There should be something very large
named after Bill Owens if you're going to do that.
But yeah, I still have never understood where where do
you think that comes from? Ryan is naming streets, buildings,
public buildings paid for with public money after living politicians
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or former politicians.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
It's probably a pay to play type deal in exchange
for donations. I think there's something going on cooking behind
the scenes.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Perhaps.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
I mean, I remember driving through West Virginia and they
have a portion of the freeway there. It might be
I seventy seven, named after the former clan member Senator
Robert Byrd as I recall.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah, I've never suspected and honestly don't suspect any kind
of payoff or anything like that, I mean financially or
anything illegal or inappropriate.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Like that goal.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
I'm just saying, I don't know, ethic goal perhaps or
just kind of a you know, greasing the palms type that's.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
The thing, right, well, not greasing the palms with cash.
But it's the same old thing right where I thought
the whole idea was you go into public service, right,
I mean, that's why you go in, and that's why
you try to become governor, senator, mayor this or that.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
But then it's all these insiders taking care of the insiders, right.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yeah, so you get a building named after the former mayor,
you have one of the most major streets in the
area named after former mayor.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
How in the world can we.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Ever justify doing that as opposed to one of our
war heroes, right, or police and fire who've died in
the line or.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
This or that.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
How could anybody ever look you in the eye and
try to justify naming something after a politician versus one
of those one of those heroes who actually gave up
their life to serve.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
I think part of it is these are known quantities,
these mayors you talk about in Like in Chicago they
have two of their freeways named after Kennedy and Eisenhower. Yeah,
those are two of the major problem there, no problem.
And then the local politicians. These are recognizable names to everybody. So, oh,
I remember Wellington web or I remember Federico Panna or.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
How does that qualify it? And listen, I personally liked Pinya.
I mean our kids played on the same team at once.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I liked Pinya.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Not this isn't a personal thing. But to me, nobody
can even begin to build a case for naming that
major thoroughfare after a living former mayor. I yeah, yeah,
it's compared again the people who've laid down their life,
which goes to another point, Ryan, And you're raising an
important question.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
You know people they've heard of.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Well, I think it'd be even more important if if
you have some great Colorado hero, you know, like Ralph Carr.
I think it's great that you have a justice center
named after him. But if you have some great Colorado
hero nobody's ever heard of, maybe that's who you name
the street after, so people hear of her or hear
of him and then learn of the story. I mean,
these things we pay for, they should be named after
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people who who represent what we want our kids to be.
So the kid has well, it's that's who that's named after.
I mean that should that should be the case.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
I think my point is it's more about the individual's
celebrity status. And I mean that in the sense of
a recognizable name, could be a sports hero, somebody else
like that.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
I know, there's Pete rose Way in Cincinnati.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
You know, these are these are individual's iconic names that everybody, Oh,
I remember who that was. Whereas the people you're talking
about it's more about merit, what did they do, what
good did they contribute?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
And their names might not be as well known.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Listen, and I'd be much much more comfortable if we
talked about, say one of our major sports figures, as
long as he or she represented the values that we
want our kids to emulate.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
So I'll throw that out there for folks too.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I mean, who among sports figures would you want something
named after? And I'm not talking about a stadium, a street,
you know, highway this or that. Is there anybody? Because again,
it would have to transcend sports, right because and I'm
as much of a sports not as you are, Ryan,
But what a pitiful society we would be if all
of a sudden, we're naming streets and buildings after somebody
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because they threw more touchdowns, right that they would have
to represent. They would have to represent something much bigger
and more important than that. But the fact that it
played out on a field or the diamond or the
quart or wherever, which is something that pulls us all together, right,
because other than faith, there's nothing that pulls us together
as a society like pro.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Sports, not really a big time college sports.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
So if you've got a person who represents our highest
values and everybody has come to know through that bonding
kind of experience of the sport.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I'm fine with that. But who would that be?
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Peyton Manning? Yeah, I think he's the first name that
would come to mind. Yeah, he's the first name that
would come to mind. And I don't want to devolve
into sports. But one thing that really bugs me is
John Elway does not get enough credit as a quarterback.
I think he's truly one of the top three quarterbacks
to ever live. Now, you know, he made that enormous
(15:28):
mistake in running Tabaw out of town, but as a quarterback. Yeah,
But if we're just going to talk about who you
name a street or building after, is there any sports
figure who qualifies?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
And I'd love to hear from people on that. I
would agree with you.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
On Peyton Manning, Dan Caveman humor, what's the deal with
all these mammoths and why are they so wooly? Okay,
maybe that was funny back then.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I yeah, but we are just talking about it, and
I do think it's so telling.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Right, there's a text here that I agree with.
Speaker 6 (16:02):
Oh, and I was gonna not Woodrow Wilson, but Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah, was very funny.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
Yeah, great timing, Yeah, great personality, great delivery.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yes, yes, yeah in terms of though, you know, kind
of entertainer jokes, and he was great with that. Nobody's
ever been as good as Trump with the off the
cuff stuff, right like this.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
One, President Trump.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
This week there was a video on board a plane
that showed the First Lady of France slapping her husband
Emmanuel mccrump. Do you have any world leaders, world leader
marital ad life.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Make sure the door remains flowing.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I mean, he pulls that stuff all the time, and
sometimes he misses right, because nobody.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Can be truly funny.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
I mean, if you're doing live stuff, nobody can be
truly funny without missing every.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Now and then. I mean that that was.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Part of the beauty of Capitalist and Suman for those
seven years or whatever is is. Craig was fearless when
it came to humor, and he did you ever Did
you ever listen to him in the day you were here?
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Yet?
Speaker 3 (17:07):
No, I know Kelly did. Though.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
He was fearless when it came to humor, and he
had some of the greatest humor I've ever heard. Now,
occasionally he'd miss, and he'd miss by a mile. But
that's just the way humor is. If you're gonna be
bold and you're gonna be funny, you're gonna color outside
the lines sometime and say I wish I could get
a mulligan.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Well, I can tell you.
Speaker 8 (17:29):
When I was listening to you guys, you both had
really good one liners.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Thank you to each one.
Speaker 8 (17:35):
Yes, so, but you know, yeah, I don't think he's
gonna come.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, well maybe one of these days. But I am
much funnier than I let on.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
And I thought you're gonna say you're much funnier than Craig, and.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
No, no, Craig. Yeah, that is just a tremendous sense
of humor. Tremendous sense of humor. But but you know
what we should do sometime. I mean trial next week,
but let's just pick out a show and say we're
going to do the entire show umorusly Is that a word. Yeah,
(18:08):
But we're gonna do every topic, and we're not just
gonna sit here and tell chicken crossing the road jokes.
We're talking real topics. We're talking the serious news topics.
But everything is going to be done in a humorous way,
I for one full show, no exceptions.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
I have an idea for a guest, and it'll be
kind of coloring outside the lines. But Kelly and I
can discuss this during the break. How about Jimmy Fayla
coming on for Fox News. He's a funny guy.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Does a show on there? Sure?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Now, funny guys are supposed to be funny. The challenge
for us is I'm not saying you're not funny or
I'm not funny, but we have to do every serious
topic in a humorous way.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Oh that would be a good challenge.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
So top ten heroes in Colorado? Who should streets be
named after? What names should come down?
Speaker 3 (18:56):
You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Kelly, do me a favor. I just shot you Pete
Boyle's number. Would you give Pete to call and see
if he can join us. We've got a lot of
different stuff going, but one of the things we're talking
about has bugged me for a long time, and that
we have so many heroes in Colorado who were not
elected officials, and how many of our elected officials have
really been heroes? Some have, but we have so many
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more heroes from other aspects of life in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yet you get all.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
These big, expensive, hundreds of million dollar buildings, hundreds of
million dollar roads that are then named after elected officials.
Why so, who would you like to see what named after?
Whether it's a road, a building, whatever. Do you want
to see any of the current names come down, any
of these current political names come down? And I know
(19:46):
that Pete has has long wanted to name a certain
street after a certain person. So Kelly's going to give
Pete to call and see if he can join us
on that. So that's one of many different things we
have cooking this afternoon. Glad you're a fascinating day. US
Supreme Court seven to two in Trump's favor, letting him
resume deportations about half a million people in different categories,
(20:10):
including I think Cuban, Haitian, I think Venezuelan as well.
But an important victory for the president in the US
Supreme Court, And so obviously you know there are going
to be many, many, many cases heard by the court
and a lot of important decisions made there. I think
sooner than later, Dan, the best way to do a
(20:31):
show is to bring Brockler in for the entire two hours.
That man could do stand up comedy, DK and Broomfield.
That is so true because what we were talking about
before the break, and you'll want to know when we're
going to do this so you can skip that show,
is we're going to dedicate ourselves to doing an entire
show all serious topics in a humorous way. So we're
not just going to come in here and tell jokes, right,
(20:53):
but we're going to take on the same stuff we
normally would, but we're just going to do it all
in a humorous way, which is that's hard work, right,
That's going to be a real challenge. I think it'll
be a lot of fun. Texter Dan, that horrible Maripania
that might have been.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
His I'm not going there.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
That's a completely unsubstantiated, made up allegation because not any
think Paenya was a horrible mayrior and he's not a
horrible person.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Or politics are different. But that's why, Ryan, what a contrast.
You weren't here with Maripania.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
You look at it now, Okay, paynya different politics, Johnston,
different politics. Paynia a big timer, truly a big timer,
big time skills, conducted himself in a big time way.
He'd come on, he'd do interviews. He'd defend his position.
Mike Johnston, this is not meant to be pejorative. It's
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not a personal thing. But these Democrats now are all
small timers. I mean, we had an era here where
you had a lot of Democrats who were way wrong
on policy and did a lot of damage because of
bad policy. But they were big time profess right. I
mean Roy Romer disagree with him on a lot of policy.
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He was a big time professional. Tim Worth, he was
a big time professional. He'd been a congressman and a
US Senator Gary Hart before monkey business, big time professional.
But these Democrats now, and again it's not personal. I'd
be happy to go have a beer, lunch or anything
with any of them. But when it comes to to
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skill set and presence and courage and courage of their
convictions and everything else, do we have a single Democrat on.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
The scene right now who's a big timer. I'd love
your thoughts on that.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
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Speaker 2 (22:45):
Kelly, any luck with Pete Boyles. Oh, she's on with
them right now.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Okay, good ask and you shall receive. Oh, she's working on.
Kelly is a hard working human. Do you know anybody
harder working than Kelly?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Now? She works at all day every day here pretty much.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
It's remarkable this station would have to close down. Okay, okay, great,
Well let's go there to the VIP line and welcome
back to kind of a founding father of this very
studio we sit in. He held court day after day,
year after year. And it's what everybody talked about, is, Hey,
what's Pete talking about? Pete Boyle's back on the Dan
(23:21):
Kaplo show.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
How you doing? My friend?
Speaker 7 (23:23):
You know, Danissan, thank you? But number two they were
talking about what you were doing too, you.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Know, for a little while there. But with you it
was pretty much every day forever.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
But you and I and I'm going a bunch of
stuff you and I did together. So please, hey, Pete, do.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
You think we're ever going to see that again? Do
you think we're ever going to see that again?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
In Colorado where you have a radio host, because radio
is you need great TV. They just get the short hits,
no matter how good they are radio long form format,
do you think we're ever going to see that again?
Where some Gael or guy like you or whatever just
dominates and everybody's.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Talking about it.
Speaker 9 (24:00):
You know.
Speaker 7 (24:01):
I pondered that so much has happened to the business,
so many things have come along, podcasting, streaming. I think
AM radio was really lost its way. It was taken
over the days of doing shows and you did those
shows that they became so politicized and unless you were
(24:24):
the radio business it self became tribal, and it wasn't
before that. Here's your tribe you listened to at this
is your tribe you listened here, and it disciplinters everything
and it's a sad state of affairs. But I loved
your topic because I've been chomping that one.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yeah, yes, So what do you want to see named
after whom?
Speaker 7 (24:45):
Well, forty years ago Alan Berg talking about radio talk
show host who was murdered on Adams Street, right between
Colfax Avenue and fourteenth Street on the right side, whereas
his house and he was murdered there. Now we have
homar Jah, which we should have. We have Dick Connor,
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which we should have. We have Bruce Randolph, which we
should have. But I had worked for thirty five years
minimum to try and get something, along with Kevin Flynn,
Counsilman Flynn, who has been really great at this to
try and get something named after that man. Now, we
got him into the Press Club Hall of Fame because
of some great work. You know, some good people did
(25:26):
great work. And I think he belongs in the National
Press Club because about not so much for what he did,
but rather why he was killed. Yeah, he was killed
for what you and I do every day, or what
you now do every day.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
And he was not only killed for his speech, but
he was killed for saying true and important things.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
Well. He also and it's all back again, but he
also spoke and I like your opening when you say
truth to power. That's a great mind. He did that,
and he took these people on that we didn't know
were I mean, it's easy to say that they were
horrible people, but we didn't even know they were out there. Honestly,
(26:11):
we knew two or three of them, but we didn't
know that group was out there. And but his life
was taken. Yeah, it was a terrible, terrible time. And
you were talking about great judges, Richard H. Judge and
Richard H. Finally remember norm eally would not go for murder,
and no one ever stood trial for allen Berg's murder No. One,
(26:34):
and he was a Rico count and then he was
Richard H. Stood those guys up on the violation of
his civil rights and he found them guilty. And I
was a witness in both of those trials. And I
watched Richard H.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Danny you know, oh yeah, yeah, I had the privilege
of appearing before him.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (26:56):
And and there's a guy you know, and so I
don't know, but here's the He's going to get away.
I mean, I've said this so many times. I've just
got I wrote a big piece for the Post on
the fortieth anniversary. And the sadness is he's going to
get away, and he's going to slip into you know,
just one other guy and and you know, you and
(27:16):
I would be long gone at least, you know I
will be, and you'll you'll follow into what all of
this is. And and this man's murder and he was
he was he was absolutely as you say, he was
murdered for what he said.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
And that's yeah, and speaking truth to dangerous, dangerous criminal power. Hey, Pete,
can you stay through another segment, of course, because I'd
like to come back and get specific about what you
know and I know you want to get that stretch
of Adams named after him, but talk about what it
takes to make that happen. But then I wanted to
talk to you about maybe what other things should be
named after whomever, because you just mentioned Richard Mage and listen,
(27:54):
I want to see I don't want to see anything
named after politicians. I want to see it named after
great Coloradden's from All Walk's Life now that includes fire, police,
military teachers. But I think, and I'm not trying to
kiss up here, I'm just being honest, you should have
something named after one or two of the great judges here,
because there have been some great judges and they have
(28:15):
stood for a lot. And again, not trying to kiss up,
but the reality is these great judges pass on millions
and millions and millions of personal earnings, you know, to
serve on the court where nobody's getting rich. So we'll
come back with Pete Boyle's here on the Dankapla Show.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
And now back to the dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Fun important topic and just a tremendous guest. Pete Boyle's
the legend the icon with us as we talk about
naming of buildings and streets, et cetera and Colorado? And
what do we need to name who do we need
to name some stuff after? And do we need to
take any names down? Because it drives me crazy. You
get politicians, whether I like him or not, who's whose
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names go on these big, expensive government buildings and roadways
when we have so many true heroes from other walks
of life who don't get that.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
So what do you think Frederic has a boulevard? Yeah, okay, yeah,
that's not right. Well, I agree. How about what happened
to Ben Stapleton? Remember the Klan and then he broke
for the Klan? But he also did I got to
think he did red Rocks. He did well. I know,
(29:25):
he did a lot of work and went to park.
He was an interesting character, and but they took it
away from him. And even Donald Trump now gets bragged
back and bending back, and I thought that was the
right thing to do as well. So I'm surprised that
Evans will still be Evans because of.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I think that came down already, didn't I.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
Don't think I think Evans Boulevard is.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Still Sorry, I was thinking of yeah, okay, the mountain.
Speaker 7 (29:52):
But I think the people you're I mean what you know,
my my text to you was about Allen. But in
the meantime, I's think of the people. You know, Nick Connor,
that's a good Dick Connor was a yeah. I mean,
first Wheney came to sports, who was better in Dick
Connor and than the salad days of the Broncs.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
It was was Dick Connor and the quality of the guy, right,
because because you just you want people who reflect those
virtues you want your kids to grow up and follow.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
And so who else would you would you put on
a street a building.
Speaker 7 (30:28):
If if you think of all of those guys and
you know, and you think of well that like we
have the Web building, Wellington Web named it, you know,
and there's some things about Wellington Web that were tremendous.
But does he was there a building that should have
been named after Wellington Web? Nick Nichols was, remember.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
The big.
Speaker 7 (30:50):
Nicholas are in sure and he said he named it
after his brother.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
I see that makes it worse.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I just think, Pete, there's a horrible message to kids
everywhere when we're naming buildings after politicians, right, because it
just reinforces it's all about them. It's not about serving
the people. So here's what I would propose, whether I
like the politician or not, all the politicians' names come off.
And then we start naming this stuff after people, even
if nobody's ever heard the name, if their story, it
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just just symbolizes everything that we stand for.
Speaker 7 (31:23):
Well, you know, I was talking with some friends. We
want to take a motorcycle trip two years ago. Dear
friends took me to the to the Little Big Horn.
And I mean, if you've done some reading a Little
Big Horn, well that was that was named after George
Custer when you and I were boys and we saw
the Battle of the Little Big Horn, totally different than
we see today. Now they have renamed some things, and
(31:46):
I think rightfully so, so that used to be the
Custer battlefield, it's no longer. I think that's right. And
so I argue against myself or do we leave them
just like they are as a reminder of who we
are and what we did.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Well, Yeah, Pete, Personally, I don't think that the people
who did just purely evil, insidious things.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
I think those names come off.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
If you talk about the people who did phenomenally great
things for this nation but also made some mistakes. Those
names stay on that. That's the way I look at it.
Speaker 7 (32:23):
Well, yeah, they, I mean politically correct revisionist historians use
history as a weapon. And Henry Ford was not a
particularly you know, liberal man. He was an anti Semite.
He was he was doing business with Adolf Hitler. Adam
Philer called him Heidrich instead of Henry. But look at
(32:45):
what Henry Ford did. What do you do with Henry Ford.
That's a good question. I don't know. The Carnegies and Pittsburgh.
They broke strikes, they did terrible things, but he got libraries.
I don't know what to do with that.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Well, which is why you've been the icon for so long.
What I'd say is there are certain there's certain behavior
that would be a disqualifier, and no amount of good
behavior could outweigh that. I don't know the Henry Ford story,
but if Fernandolina, if Henry Ford was collaborating with Hitler,
to me, that would disqualify him from just having anything
(33:20):
named after him. If you've got somebody else who's doing
all this great stuff and then they've screwed up over here,
unless that the screw up is in that disqualifying category,
I think you still honor them.
Speaker 7 (33:31):
Well, well, that's what I'm saying about the Southern generals.
That all the Southern not all, but most of the
Southern Army installations were named after Confederate generals. Was all
taken away? Was that the right thing of the wrong
taking down taking down statues the right thing of the
wrong thing. I don't know. I mean, because I grew
(33:53):
up with a foot in each world as you did
as well.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Well to me, Listen to me, anybody, anybody who had
any real involvement in enslaving people, I don't think we
can honor them.
Speaker 7 (34:08):
If they were men of their times. And this is
the questions historian asked. Historians ask because we obviously had
these terrible presidents, we had people that enforced the slavery,
yet they're still in the history books, we still talk
about them. I don't know it's an argument for historians,
(34:30):
but it is there.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
He can I clarify a point because Ryan properly snapped
at me in my ear. Here's the point when I
say enslaving people, Listen, I understand some of the greatest
figures in history had slaves, and that's horrible, but they
still did so many great things that I think they
should be honored like a Washington and Jefferson. When I
was talking about enslaving people, I'm talking about people who
(34:57):
went out and actively worked to be able to keep
people enslaved. That's the category I'm talking about. I think
when you talk about people like Washington and Jefferson, they
put in place, you know, through the Declaration and the Constitution,
that the mechanism by which people could eventually be freed.
But people who went out and killed people so that
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they could keep people enslaved, I don't.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Know how we honor them.
Speaker 7 (35:22):
Would that be the entire Confederate Army?
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Yeah, yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 7 (35:27):
It's a tough I mean, I would not want to
be the one who makes the call.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Well I just finished this and Pete, you know the
music's playing. Do you want to come back for another segment?
Speaker 7 (35:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 7 (35:41):
Okay, people have call me back. I got a call
my son.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I will do that. He is a busy man.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
But there's nobody liked Pete Boyles, nobody in the history
he's had.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Here and join in.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
I've been better than fighting on a Friday, right, Glad
you're here.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
What a beautiful weekend to have most of Colorado, certainly
across the front range, and Sunday might be the nicest
day of the earth. Think it's supposed to be about
what eighty five beautiful sunny, So no better place to
be three or three someone three A two five five
the number techs d an five seven, seven, three nine,
So fire at will really on anything and everything.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I really do want to follow.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Up though, on this thing we got off on yesterday,
which is that the top ten heroes in Colorado history.
We get some really interesting techs, some of the folks
I'd heard of, some I have, And obviously we talk
all the time on this show about the Kendrick Castillo.
He's got to be way up near the top, right,
Dave Sanders and start talking about top ten heroes in
(01:03):
the history of the state. Obviously, everybody could be number one,
but we're just talking about the people who have engaged
in these different forms of heroic acts and also really
symbolize and represent the best of us. So I want
to keep that conversation going, and that of course inevitably
will lead to old math, you know, out at DiiA,
(01:24):
because when you stop and think about this beautiful prime location,
the single best location in the entire state of Colorado
for public art, and what do we use it to
honor a horse?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
On math?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
It makes no sense at all when you think about
all these true heroes in Colorado. They're Republicans, they're Democrats,
they're inn affiliated as politics doesn't matter. But we choose
to use that spot to honor Satan's steed.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
We got to change that one of these days.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
But let's talk about those top ten heroes and then
other ways we can honor them. Because one thing that's
always driven me a little bit crazy is why in
the world are we naming major roadways, major buildings, et
cetera after politicians, especially living politicians. Why would we do that?
Right now, I understand there are some figures in political
(02:14):
history who you've got to name stuff after, right because
they were that large and had that much impact. But
come on, are and some of these have been really
good people, right others have been okay, some of them bad.
But for each and every one of these streets or
buildings named after a former government official, we must have
(02:35):
fifty to one hundred Colorado heroes who should be on
the list before them, right three at three seven, three eight,
two five five the numbers. So I want to talk
about all that with you see who's on that top ten?
Who you would want to see? What named after?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
You know?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
What highway? What building?
Speaker 4 (02:51):
What? This?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Should we be taking any names off of roadways, off
of buildings? And I'm not real big on that necessarily,
but I think it's open for conversation. Three h three
someone three eight two five five takes d a n
five seven seven three nine. Joe Biden reappeared today. We'll
get to that in a second. I think the first
question there is is why. I mean, I really I
(03:15):
wish him good health. Obviously, he's suffering from prostate cancer
and that's very sad, and my guess his has been
for a long time and they hid that from us too.
But I wish him nothing but peaceful and hopefully as
pain free as possible remaining days, but he insists on
being back on the public scenes, so we are obligated
(03:35):
to cover it. But there has never been a funnier president, right,
I mean, it's not even close. And Ryan, even Woodrow
Wilson wasn't this funny, right, I mean, truly, there's never
been anybody close to Trump.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Here's the latest on Macrone.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
And if if you haven't seen the video of Macron
getting punched by his wife or how would you describe it,
slap tard, punched, shoved, Yeah, she pushed it his face,
all of the above, if you haven't seen that video.
But I've got to tell you Macrone handled it so
(04:09):
great because it happened just as the door to the
plane opens. If you haven't seen it, he's right there
on video and then he realizes, Okay, I've just been
shoved in the face by my wife on camera. And
he handled it great, just got a big smile on
his face. And you gotta gotta be impressed with that.
But funniest president ever, right. Trump chimed in on this,
(04:32):
President Trump.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
This week there was a video on board a plane
that showed the First Lady of France slapping her husband,
Emmanuel mccrumme, do you have any world leaders, world leader
marital advice?
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Make sure the door remains flowing. Good. I spoke to
him and he's fine to ye're fine. There are two
really good people. I know him very well, and I
don't know that was all about. But I know him
very well and they're fine.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Keep the door closed, right. I gotta tell you know,
maybe it's a French thing.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
If it is, it's bad.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I could not imagine Ryan in one hundred thousand years,
my wife or myself ever hitting the other in anger.
It's just inconceivable, unimaginable. It's yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Well, there's there's two parts to this too.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
There's that and even behind closed doors in your own
home you couldn't imagine it, but certainly not in public
where people could see it.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
And that's the other part.
Speaker 6 (05:39):
I'm sure there have been moments where Malania has been
frustrated by President Trump, but she's dignified and gracious, and
you've seen her from time to time she'll kind of
laugh or roll her eyes about something he says.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Now, maybe behind closed doors she gives him a little
bit of a stress punch.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
No, I don't think she resorts that I don't know,
but yeah, I would think she might have some more
choice words for him behind the scenes that they have
them moment.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Talking about the physical stuff, right because America, I mean
just and it's a great thing, right, but our culture
that is just strictly taboo. I mean, that's like incest.
You do not you do not hit a woman. And
I don't think many wives hit their husbands. Maybe there
are some relationships where that's just kind of common and
that's how they blow off steam. If that's the case,
(06:24):
I think they should talk to their criminal attorneys and
their marriage counselors maybe together. But yeah, that's just not
an American thing, and that is a good thing that
it's a French thing either though.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
It was very strange when you watch it happen in
real time, and I agree with you, Emmanuel macroan.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
He handled pretty well. He kind of this shocked look.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
On his face and smiled like, oh, I don't know
what that was about, but all right, yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
What do you think must happen to him the rest
of the time.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
She's willing to do that?
Speaker 6 (06:50):
Well, a full view of everybody else, then you can
only imagine the Nightmarre's dealing with behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, wow speak since.
Speaker 7 (07:01):
So.
Speaker 8 (07:03):
Uh, My parents went to France a long time ago
and they were at a restaurant and three couples, one
through their glass of wine at their husband. One got
up and slapped him exactly in the face.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Did this group know each other?
Speaker 8 (07:24):
It looked like they were couples, and so my parents
were kind of like shocked.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
That is this the culture?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Is this weird? I don't know.
Speaker 8 (07:33):
But the third couple, this was the best one. They
got into such a heated argument. They were actually dismissed
from the restaurant.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Wow, exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
The cultural thing, huh, I would justify anything physically really culture.
Speaker 8 (07:49):
But if you remember, Trump said in one of his
rallies talking about Millennia, when she gets mad at him,
she says, darling. If you're remember, because they call each
other darling, So she prefaces everything with darling, you know,
kind of that's her trigger thing of you're being it.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
Yeah, sure, yeah, you caught yourself there.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah no, that's wow. Yeah, No, it's here's Trump again
on this. This this is one of my instant favorites
President Trump.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
This week, there was a video on board a plane
that showed the first lady.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Oh, I wanted to play this thing. Her heart's that good.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Emmanuel McCrum, do you have any world leaders, world leader
marital in life?
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Make sure the door remains flower. That was not good.
And I spoke to him and he's he's fine too.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, it was that good. I wanted to play it twice. Truly,
often I'll play things twice by accident. I wanted to
hear that again. Honestly, I think it's one reason he
won both times, and it's another reason both terms are
being very successful. Is he's so funny. It's it's interesting,
isn't It's the way we were created. Hey, why do
you think the Almighty did it that way? And I'm
(09:06):
not trying to get religious or philosophical, just practical. Why
do you think we were wired that way?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
That?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
That humor is this big door opener? What do you
think the caveman jokes were?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I mean, who do you think that? But obviously right,
we were created this way.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Ryan, unless somebody's a psychopath, everybody responds well to humor,
and our humor may differ a little bit, but everybody
responds well to humor. Three or three someone three eight
two five five, which means we need some Rodney dangerfield
this afternoon right here on the Dankpla Show.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
And now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast.
Speaker 9 (09:42):
We have some breaking news just in from the Supreme Court.
This is a seven to two ruling involving justices now
allowing the Trump administration to revoke protected status for half
a million immigrants from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela while
the appeals process plays is out.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Gary Phillison three or three someone three eight two five
five takes d A and five seven seven three nine.
We'll talk about that in some more detail. Boy of
Friday lots to two and we're continuing the Hey Greatest Heroes,
Top ten Heroes in Colorado History. Also, what names do
you want to see taken off of roadways and buildings
(10:22):
and replaced with whom?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Right?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Because it really it makes no sense at all, does
it that we're naming buildings and roadways after living politicians?
And if we're going to do that that, then where's
where's whatever named after Bill Owens?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Right?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
You want to talk about one of the most successful
governors in Colorado history. There should be something very large
named after Bill Owens if you're going to do that.
But yeah, I still have never understood where where do
you think that comes from? Ryan is naming streets, buildings,
public buildings paid for with public money after living politicians
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or former politicians.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
It's probably a pay to play type deal in exchange
for donations. I think there's something going on cooking behind
the scenes.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Perhaps.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
I mean, I remember driving through West Virginia and they
have a portion of the freeway there. It might be
I seventy seven, named after the former clan member Senator
Robert Byrd as I recall.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah, I've never suspected and honestly don't suspect any kind
of payoff or anything like that, I mean financially or
anything illegal or inappropriate.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Like that goal.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
I'm just saying, I don't know, ethic goal perhaps or
just kind of a you know, greasing the palms type that's.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
The thing, right, well, not greasing the palms with cash.
But it's the same old thing right where I thought
the whole idea was you go into public service, right,
I mean, that's why you go in, and that's why
you try to become governor, senator, mayor this or that.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
But then it's all these insiders taking care of the insiders, right.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yeah, so you get a building named after the former mayor,
you have one of the most major streets in the
area named after former mayor.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
How in the world can we.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Ever justify doing that as opposed to one of our
war heroes, right, or police and fire who've died in
the line or.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
This or that.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
How could anybody ever look you in the eye and
try to justify naming something after a politician versus one
of those one of those heroes who actually gave up
their life to serve.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
I think part of it is these are known quantities,
these mayors you talk about in Like in Chicago they
have two of their freeways named after Kennedy and Eisenhower. Yeah,
those are two of the major problem there, no problem.
And then the local politicians. These are recognizable names to everybody. So, oh,
I remember Wellington web or I remember Federico Panna or.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
How does that qualify it? And listen, I personally liked Pinya.
I mean our kids played on the same team at once.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I liked Pinya.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Not this isn't a personal thing. But to me, nobody
can even begin to build a case for naming that
major thoroughfare after a living former mayor. I yeah, yeah,
it's compared again the people who've laid down their life,
which goes to another point, Ryan, And you're raising an
important question.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
You know people they've heard of.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Well, I think it'd be even more important if if
you have some great Colorado hero, you know, like Ralph Carr.
I think it's great that you have a justice center
named after him. But if you have some great Colorado
hero nobody's ever heard of, maybe that's who you name
the street after, so people hear of her or hear
of him and then learn of the story. I mean,
these things we pay for, they should be named after
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people who who represent what we want our kids to be.
So the kid has well, it's that's who that's named after.
I mean that should that should be the case.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
I think my point is it's more about the individual's
celebrity status. And I mean that in the sense of
a recognizable name, could be a sports hero, somebody else
like that.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
I know, there's Pete rose Way in Cincinnati.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
You know, these are these are individual's iconic names that everybody, Oh,
I remember who that was. Whereas the people you're talking
about it's more about merit, what did they do, what
good did they contribute?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
And their names might not be as well known.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Listen, and I'd be much much more comfortable if we
talked about, say one of our major sports figures, as
long as he or she represented the values that we
want our kids to emulate.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
So I'll throw that out there for folks too.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I mean, who among sports figures would you want something
named after? And I'm not talking about a stadium, a street,
you know, highway this or that. Is there anybody? Because again,
it would have to transcend sports, right because and I'm
as much of a sports not as you are, Ryan,
But what a pitiful society we would be if all
of a sudden, we're naming streets and buildings after somebody
(14:32):
because they threw more touchdowns, right that they would have
to represent. They would have to represent something much bigger
and more important than that. But the fact that it
played out on a field or the diamond or the
quart or wherever, which is something that pulls us all together, right,
because other than faith, there's nothing that pulls us together
as a society like pro.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Sports, not really a big time college sports.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
So if you've got a person who represents our highest
values and everybody has come to know through that bonding
kind of experience of the sport.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I'm fine with that. But who would that be?
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Peyton Manning? Yeah, I think he's the first name that
would come to mind. Yeah, he's the first name that
would come to mind. And I don't want to devolve
into sports. But one thing that really bugs me is
John Elway does not get enough credit as a quarterback.
I think he's truly one of the top three quarterbacks
to ever live. Now, you know, he made that enormous
(15:28):
mistake in running Tabaw out of town, but as a quarterback. Yeah,
But if we're just going to talk about who you
name a street or building after, is there any sports
figure who qualifies?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
And I'd love to hear from people on that. I
would agree with you.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
On Peyton Manning, Dan Caveman humor, what's the deal with
all these mammoths and why are they so wooly? Okay,
maybe that was funny back then.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I yeah, but we are just talking about it, and
I do think it's so telling.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Right, there's a text here that I agree with.
Speaker 6 (16:02):
Oh, and I was gonna not Woodrow Wilson, but Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah, was very funny.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
Yeah, great timing, Yeah, great personality, great delivery.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yes, yes, yeah in terms of though, you know, kind
of entertainer jokes, and he was great with that. Nobody's
ever been as good as Trump with the off the
cuff stuff, right like this.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
One, President Trump.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
This week there was a video on board a plane
that showed the First Lady of France slapping her husband
Emmanuel mccrump. Do you have any world leaders, world leader
marital ad life.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Make sure the door remains flowing.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I mean, he pulls that stuff all the time, and
sometimes he misses right, because nobody.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Can be truly funny.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
I mean, if you're doing live stuff, nobody can be
truly funny without missing every.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Now and then. I mean that that was.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Part of the beauty of Capitalist and Suman for those
seven years or whatever is is. Craig was fearless when
it came to humor, and he did you ever Did
you ever listen to him in the day you were here?
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Yet?
Speaker 3 (17:07):
No, I know Kelly did. Though.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
He was fearless when it came to humor, and he
had some of the greatest humor I've ever heard. Now,
occasionally he'd miss, and he'd miss by a mile. But
that's just the way humor is. If you're gonna be
bold and you're gonna be funny, you're gonna color outside
the lines sometime and say I wish I could get
a mulligan.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Well, I can tell you.
Speaker 8 (17:29):
When I was listening to you guys, you both had
really good one liners.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Thank you to each one.
Speaker 8 (17:35):
Yes, so, but you know, yeah, I don't think he's
gonna come.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, well maybe one of these days. But I am
much funnier than I let on.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
And I thought you're gonna say you're much funnier than Craig, and.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
No, no, Craig. Yeah, that is just a tremendous sense
of humor. Tremendous sense of humor. But but you know
what we should do sometime. I mean trial next week,
but let's just pick out a show and say we're
going to do the entire show umorusly Is that a word. Yeah,
(18:08):
But we're gonna do every topic, and we're not just
gonna sit here and tell chicken crossing the road jokes.
We're talking real topics. We're talking the serious news topics.
But everything is going to be done in a humorous way,
I for one full show, no exceptions.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
I have an idea for a guest, and it'll be
kind of coloring outside the lines. But Kelly and I
can discuss this during the break. How about Jimmy Fayla
coming on for Fox News. He's a funny guy.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Does a show on there? Sure?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Now, funny guys are supposed to be funny. The challenge
for us is I'm not saying you're not funny or
I'm not funny, but we have to do every serious
topic in a humorous way.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Oh that would be a good challenge.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
So top ten heroes in Colorado? Who should streets be
named after? What names should come down?
Speaker 3 (18:56):
You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Kelly, do me a favor. I just shot you Pete
Boyle's number. Would you give Pete to call and see
if he can join us. We've got a lot of
different stuff going, but one of the things we're talking
about has bugged me for a long time, and that
we have so many heroes in Colorado who were not
elected officials, and how many of our elected officials have
really been heroes? Some have, but we have so many
(19:20):
more heroes from other aspects of life in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yet you get all.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
These big, expensive, hundreds of million dollar buildings, hundreds of
million dollar roads that are then named after elected officials.
Why so, who would you like to see what named after?
Whether it's a road, a building, whatever. Do you want
to see any of the current names come down, any
of these current political names come down? And I know
(19:46):
that Pete has has long wanted to name a certain
street after a certain person. So Kelly's going to give
Pete to call and see if he can join us
on that. So that's one of many different things we
have cooking this afternoon. Glad you're a fascinating day. US
Supreme Court seven to two in Trump's favor, letting him
resume deportations about half a million people in different categories,
(20:10):
including I think Cuban, Haitian, I think Venezuelan as well.
But an important victory for the president in the US
Supreme Court, And so obviously you know there are going
to be many, many, many cases heard by the court
and a lot of important decisions made there. I think
sooner than later, Dan, the best way to do a
(20:31):
show is to bring Brockler in for the entire two hours.
That man could do stand up comedy, DK and Broomfield.
That is so true because what we were talking about
before the break, and you'll want to know when we're
going to do this so you can skip that show,
is we're going to dedicate ourselves to doing an entire
show all serious topics in a humorous way. So we're
not just going to come in here and tell jokes, right,
(20:53):
but we're going to take on the same stuff we
normally would, but we're just going to do it all
in a humorous way, which is that's hard work, right,
That's going to be a real challenge. I think it'll
be a lot of fun. Texter Dan, that horrible Maripania
that might have been.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
His I'm not going there.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
That's a completely unsubstantiated, made up allegation because not any
think Paenya was a horrible mayrior and he's not a
horrible person.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Or politics are different. But that's why, Ryan, what a contrast.
You weren't here with Maripania.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
You look at it now, Okay, paynya different politics, Johnston,
different politics. Paynia a big timer, truly a big timer,
big time skills, conducted himself in a big time way.
He'd come on, he'd do interviews. He'd defend his position.
Mike Johnston, this is not meant to be pejorative. It's
(21:44):
not a personal thing. But these Democrats now are all
small timers. I mean, we had an era here where
you had a lot of Democrats who were way wrong
on policy and did a lot of damage because of
bad policy. But they were big time profess right. I
mean Roy Romer disagree with him on a lot of policy.
(22:05):
He was a big time professional. Tim Worth, he was
a big time professional. He'd been a congressman and a
US Senator Gary Hart before monkey business, big time professional.
But these Democrats now, and again it's not personal. I'd
be happy to go have a beer, lunch or anything
with any of them. But when it comes to to
(22:27):
skill set and presence and courage and courage of their
convictions and everything else, do we have a single Democrat on.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
The scene right now who's a big timer. I'd love
your thoughts on that.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Three oh three he sev one three eight two five
five the number texts d an five seven seven three nine.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Kelly, any luck with Pete Boyles. Oh, she's on with
them right now.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Okay, good ask and you shall receive. Oh, she's working on.
Kelly is a hard working human. Do you know anybody
harder working than Kelly?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Now? She works at all day every day here pretty much.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
It's remarkable this station would have to close down. Okay, okay, great,
Well let's go there to the VIP line and welcome
back to kind of a founding father of this very
studio we sit in. He held court day after day,
year after year. And it's what everybody talked about, is, Hey,
what's Pete talking about? Pete Boyle's back on the Dan
(23:21):
Kaplo show.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
How you doing? My friend?
Speaker 7 (23:23):
You know, Danissan, thank you? But number two they were
talking about what you were doing too, you.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Know, for a little while there. But with you it
was pretty much every day forever.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
But you and I and I'm going a bunch of
stuff you and I did together. So please, hey, Pete, do.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
You think we're ever going to see that again? Do
you think we're ever going to see that again?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
In Colorado where you have a radio host, because radio
is you need great TV. They just get the short hits,
no matter how good they are radio long form format,
do you think we're ever going to see that again?
Where some Gael or guy like you or whatever just
dominates and everybody's.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Talking about it.
Speaker 9 (24:00):
You know.
Speaker 7 (24:01):
I pondered that so much has happened to the business,
so many things have come along, podcasting, streaming. I think
AM radio was really lost its way. It was taken
over the days of doing shows and you did those
shows that they became so politicized and unless you were
(24:24):
the radio business it self became tribal, and it wasn't
before that. Here's your tribe you listened to at this
is your tribe you listened here, and it disciplinters everything
and it's a sad state of affairs. But I loved
your topic because I've been chomping that one.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yeah, yes, So what do you want to see named
after whom?
Speaker 7 (24:45):
Well, forty years ago Alan Berg talking about radio talk
show host who was murdered on Adams Street, right between
Colfax Avenue and fourteenth Street on the right side, whereas
his house and he was murdered there. Now we have
homar Jah, which we should have. We have Dick Connor,
(25:06):
which we should have. We have Bruce Randolph, which we
should have. But I had worked for thirty five years
minimum to try and get something, along with Kevin Flynn,
Counsilman Flynn, who has been really great at this to
try and get something named after that man. Now, we
got him into the Press Club Hall of Fame because
of some great work. You know, some good people did
(25:26):
great work. And I think he belongs in the National
Press Club because about not so much for what he did,
but rather why he was killed. Yeah, he was killed
for what you and I do every day, or what
you now do every day.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
And he was not only killed for his speech, but
he was killed for saying true and important things.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
Well. He also and it's all back again, but he
also spoke and I like your opening when you say
truth to power. That's a great mind. He did that,
and he took these people on that we didn't know
were I mean, it's easy to say that they were
horrible people, but we didn't even know they were out there. Honestly,
(26:11):
we knew two or three of them, but we didn't
know that group was out there. And but his life
was taken. Yeah, it was a terrible, terrible time. And
you were talking about great judges, Richard H. Judge and
Richard H. Finally remember norm eally would not go for murder,
and no one ever stood trial for allen Berg's murder No. One,
(26:34):
and he was a Rico count and then he was
Richard H. Stood those guys up on the violation of
his civil rights and he found them guilty. And I
was a witness in both of those trials. And I
watched Richard H.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Danny you know, oh yeah, yeah, I had the privilege
of appearing before him.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (26:56):
And and there's a guy you know, and so I
don't know, but here's the He's going to get away.
I mean, I've said this so many times. I've just
got I wrote a big piece for the Post on
the fortieth anniversary. And the sadness is he's going to
get away, and he's going to slip into you know,
just one other guy and and you know, you and
(27:16):
I would be long gone at least, you know I
will be, and you'll you'll follow into what all of
this is. And and this man's murder and he was
he was he was absolutely as you say, he was
murdered for what he said.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
And that's yeah, and speaking truth to dangerous, dangerous criminal power. Hey, Pete,
can you stay through another segment, of course, because I'd
like to come back and get specific about what you
know and I know you want to get that stretch
of Adams named after him, but talk about what it
takes to make that happen. But then I wanted to
talk to you about maybe what other things should be
named after whomever, because you just mentioned Richard Mage and listen,
(27:54):
I want to see I don't want to see anything
named after politicians. I want to see it named after
great Coloradden's from All Walk's Life now that includes fire, police,
military teachers. But I think, and I'm not trying to
kiss up here, I'm just being honest, you should have
something named after one or two of the great judges here,
because there have been some great judges and they have
(28:15):
stood for a lot. And again, not trying to kiss up,
but the reality is these great judges pass on millions
and millions and millions of personal earnings, you know, to
serve on the court where nobody's getting rich. So we'll
come back with Pete Boyle's here on the Dankapla Show.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
And now back to the dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Fun important topic and just a tremendous guest. Pete Boyle's
the legend the icon with us as we talk about
naming of buildings and streets, et cetera and Colorado? And
what do we need to name who do we need
to name some stuff after? And do we need to
take any names down? Because it drives me crazy. You
get politicians, whether I like him or not, who's whose
(28:56):
names go on these big, expensive government buildings and roadways
when we have so many true heroes from other walks
of life who don't get that.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
So what do you think Frederic has a boulevard? Yeah, okay, yeah,
that's not right. Well, I agree. How about what happened
to Ben Stapleton? Remember the Klan and then he broke
for the Klan? But he also did I got to
think he did red Rocks. He did well. I know,
(29:25):
he did a lot of work and went to park.
He was an interesting character, and but they took it
away from him. And even Donald Trump now gets bragged
back and bending back, and I thought that was the
right thing to do as well. So I'm surprised that
Evans will still be Evans because of.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I think that came down already, didn't I.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
Don't think I think Evans Boulevard is.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Still Sorry, I was thinking of yeah, okay, the mountain.
Speaker 7 (29:52):
But I think the people you're I mean what you know,
my my text to you was about Allen. But in
the meantime, I's think of the people. You know, Nick Connor,
that's a good Dick Connor was a yeah. I mean,
first Wheney came to sports, who was better in Dick
Connor and than the salad days of the Broncs.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
It was was Dick Connor and the quality of the guy, right,
because because you just you want people who reflect those
virtues you want your kids to grow up and follow.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
And so who else would you would you put on
a street a building.
Speaker 7 (30:28):
If if you think of all of those guys and
you know, and you think of well that like we
have the Web building, Wellington Web named it, you know,
and there's some things about Wellington Web that were tremendous.
But does he was there a building that should have
been named after Wellington Web? Nick Nichols was, remember.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
The big.
Speaker 7 (30:50):
Nicholas are in sure and he said he named it
after his brother.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
I see that makes it worse.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I just think, Pete, there's a horrible message to kids
everywhere when we're naming buildings after politicians, right, because it
just reinforces it's all about them. It's not about serving
the people. So here's what I would propose, whether I
like the politician or not, all the politicians' names come off.
And then we start naming this stuff after people, even
if nobody's ever heard the name, if their story, it
(31:19):
just just symbolizes everything that we stand for.
Speaker 7 (31:23):
Well, you know, I was talking with some friends. We
want to take a motorcycle trip two years ago. Dear
friends took me to the to the Little Big Horn.
And I mean, if you've done some reading a Little
Big Horn, well that was that was named after George
Custer when you and I were boys and we saw
the Battle of the Little Big Horn, totally different than
we see today. Now they have renamed some things, and
(31:46):
I think rightfully so, so that used to be the
Custer battlefield, it's no longer. I think that's right. And
so I argue against myself or do we leave them
just like they are as a reminder of who we
are and what we did.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Well, Yeah, Pete, Personally, I don't think that the people
who did just purely evil, insidious things.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
I think those names come off.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
If you talk about the people who did phenomenally great
things for this nation but also made some mistakes. Those
names stay on that. That's the way I look at it.
Speaker 7 (32:23):
Well, yeah, they, I mean politically correct revisionist historians use
history as a weapon. And Henry Ford was not a
particularly you know, liberal man. He was an anti Semite.
He was he was doing business with Adolf Hitler. Adam
Philer called him Heidrich instead of Henry. But look at
(32:45):
what Henry Ford did. What do you do with Henry Ford.
That's a good question. I don't know. The Carnegies and Pittsburgh.
They broke strikes, they did terrible things, but he got libraries.
I don't know what to do with that.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Well, which is why you've been the icon for so long.
What I'd say is there are certain there's certain behavior
that would be a disqualifier, and no amount of good
behavior could outweigh that. I don't know the Henry Ford story,
but if Fernandolina, if Henry Ford was collaborating with Hitler,
to me, that would disqualify him from just having anything
(33:20):
named after him. If you've got somebody else who's doing
all this great stuff and then they've screwed up over here,
unless that the screw up is in that disqualifying category,
I think you still honor them.
Speaker 7 (33:31):
Well, well, that's what I'm saying about the Southern generals.
That all the Southern not all, but most of the
Southern Army installations were named after Confederate generals. Was all
taken away? Was that the right thing of the wrong
taking down taking down statues the right thing of the
wrong thing. I don't know. I mean, because I grew
(33:53):
up with a foot in each world as you did
as well.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Well to me, Listen to me, anybody, anybody who had
any real involvement in enslaving people, I don't think we
can honor them.
Speaker 7 (34:08):
If they were men of their times. And this is
the questions historian asked. Historians ask because we obviously had
these terrible presidents, we had people that enforced the slavery,
yet they're still in the history books, we still talk
about them. I don't know it's an argument for historians,
(34:30):
but it is there.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
He can I clarify a point because Ryan properly snapped
at me in my ear. Here's the point when I
say enslaving people, Listen, I understand some of the greatest
figures in history had slaves, and that's horrible, but they
still did so many great things that I think they
should be honored like a Washington and Jefferson. When I
was talking about enslaving people, I'm talking about people who
(34:57):
went out and actively worked to be able to keep
people enslaved. That's the category I'm talking about. I think
when you talk about people like Washington and Jefferson, they
put in place, you know, through the Declaration and the Constitution,
that the mechanism by which people could eventually be freed.
But people who went out and killed people so that
(35:17):
they could keep people enslaved, I don't.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Know how we honor them.
Speaker 7 (35:22):
Would that be the entire Confederate Army?
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Yeah, yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 7 (35:27):
It's a tough I mean, I would not want to
be the one who makes the call.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Well I just finished this and Pete, you know the
music's playing. Do you want to come back for another segment?
Speaker 7 (35:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 7 (35:41):
Okay, people have call me back. I got a call
my son.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I will do that. He is a busy man.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
But there's nobody liked Pete Boyles, nobody in the history
he's had.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Here and join in.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
We'll take calls. Text You're on the Dan Kaplis Show.
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