July 29, 2026 • 35 mins
This episode of the Dan Caplis Show is a must-listen for anyone following the latest developments in the world of politics and public health. The speaker dives into the explosive revelations surrounding Dr. Fauci's diary, which has been released to the public. The diary reveals a shocking picture of a scientist who was more concerned with his own power and prestige than with the well-being of the American people.
The speaker discusses the implications of Fauci's actions, including his role in promoting lockdowns and mask mandates, and the devastating effects these policies had on children and the economy. The conversation also touches on the topic of Fauci's ego and his desire for fame and recognition, which led him to make decisions that were not in the best interest of the country.
The speaker also addresses the question of whether Fauci can be held accountable for his actions, and the challenges of pursuing a case against him in a civil or criminal context. The conversation is a thought-provoking exploration of the intersection of politics, science, and power.
If you want to understand the full extent of the fallout from Fauci's diary and the implications for the country, tune in to this episode of the Dan Caplis Show. The speaker's analysis and insights are a must-hear for anyone interested in staying informed about the latest developments in politics and public health.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to
give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind,
and to subscribe, download, and listen to the show every
single day on your favorite podcast platform. That he was,
and the Left made him out to be literally a
god who could not be questioned. If you questioned him,
(00:23):
you were questioning science. Because of course, the left knew
the only way they could defeat Trump was COVID, So
they needed COVID to be as disruptive to everyday life
as possible, starting with the kids. And so they were willing,
and Fauci was a useful, willing idiot to go out
there and to harm the kids in this nation in
so many ways that had no basis in science and
(00:46):
was all about power politics and Fauci, you know, trying
to turn himself into a god. And now it's all
getting exposed. And the only reason it's getting exposed is
some really good smart work by the Trump administration, you know.
And we don't have the details now, My guess is
they use some forensic experts and they were able to
get in and pull Fauci's diaries off government computers, and
(01:10):
I assumed that he had deleted him. But obviously you
can get in with the right kind of systems and
get what's left. And that's what brought him down today.
Otherwise he'd still be up there telling the same lies.
So we're gonna play some of that sound. It really
is to be savored, and I hope extended because right
now most Americans aren't paying attention. Right it's the middle
of summer, and America needs to know what happened here.
(01:33):
So we're going to play a lot of that sound.
Some great texts coming in three oh three, seven, one,
three eight, two, five five if you prefer to call
which I love, I'm gonna throw back d An five
seven seven three nine two text so I'm sure you
know the headline paint out right. Fauchi took the fifth
over and over and over again, tried to blame Ran
(01:54):
Paul said he had some weird obsession with him. Which
do you think, Fauch he really believed these words as
he said them.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
During and after the COVID pandemic. I have appeared multiple
times for hearings in the Senate and the House, usually
under oaths, and sat for several days long transcribed sworn interviews,
answering questions about.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
The very issues that are now the subject of this hearing. Yeah,
but his bogus, false opinions and recommendations aren't subject to
a perjury charge. Those are opinions.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
However, given Senator Paul's obvious obsession with calling for my prosecution,
his repeated slanderous comments about.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Me, could you be a little more specific, doctor Fauci,
because I'm not aware of any and Rain Paul was
calling for prosecution because he believed you committed perjury in
testimony about gain of function research, and Ran Paul made
his case. I mean, with specific facts, whether you think
it rises to the level of fouls, you should be
(03:11):
prosecuted or not. But Ran Paul laid out his facts.
Where are yours, doctor Fauci.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
And recently is publicly releasing my unredacted personal diary.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Personal diary. It's on government computers. I mean, this isn't
some little pink book under the bed.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Aimed at embarrassing and intimidating me.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
He only he.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Cannot possibly believe that, right. No, it was aimed at
exposing you, exposing your lives, which is exactly what it did.
You are publicly stating that you never called for any
kids to be kept out of school, and the diaries
prove the opposite, prove the opposite.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Shameless conclusion I can reach is that the sole reason
he is calling me before this committee to get me
to say something, anything that could vindicate his repeated public
pledges that I end up in his words, quote behind bars.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Well, wait a second, do you really think, doctor Fauci,
do you doubt that Rand Paul wanted you in front
of the committee so that you would have to answer
for what's in your diary. That's not a perjury trap.
That's just proving you lied to the American people. So
why was Rand Why was Fauci taking the fifth today?
(04:35):
Is it because if he had testified truthfully, he would
have ended up with criminal liability. No, I don't think
that was the reason at all. I think he took
the fifth today to avoid answering these fair questions about
the lies he told the American people, because listen him,
as far as I know, maybe I'm missing something, I'm
(04:56):
sure somebody will point it out if I am. But
him standing up and lying to the American people about
COVID and making recommendations he knew, had to know, weren't
justified and would harm many many, starting with the children.
I don't think that's criminally prosecutable. It's immoral, it's horrific,
(05:18):
but not every immoral, horrific act is criminally prosecutable. And again,
maybe I'm missing something somewhere, but no, I think the
fifth today was all about avoiding a very cowardly avoidance
of being held accountable to the American people for his lives.
He loves being in the media, right, He loves being
(05:38):
the center of attention, being the star when everybody's kissing
as you know what. But when he's caught line, No,
he doesn't want to have to answer to the American people.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I just.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
My great frustration is that a lot of the American
people are not going to learn about what's happened here
because you know, obviously most of the media wants to
protect Fauci, to protect the Democrats.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
So I hope somehow this full story can be told
again in the fall, when most people are actually paying attention. Now,
Josh Holly, he was a star today, But let's before
we go back to that, a little bit of rand Paul,
who is ever lasting credit. He stayed on this, He
kept digging and brought it to today.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Regarding the lockdowns, you argue that you did not personally
issue every lockdown, order, close every school, or impose every mandate,
but officials across the country invoked your authority to justify
these decisions, and you presented your recommendations not as judgments
open to debate, but as dictates of science itself. Your
(06:41):
own words demonstrate that you understood the influence you exercised.
On March fourteenth, twenty twenty, you wrote that the task
Force recommendations were driven by me, yourself, deb and CDC.
The next day, you wrote that you had convinced Mayor
or Bill de Blasio to close the New York City schools,
so you were involved. That same night, Governor Gavin Newsom's
(07:05):
chief of staff told you that the governor had decided.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
To close California schools, bars and restaurants after watching you
on television. Presidents, governors, mayors, school boards, corporations, and congress
all bear responsibility for the decisions they made. The COVID lockdown, however,
could never have been inflicted without you aiding and abetting
the crime.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah, no, that's exactly right, exactly right, and then again
great work by Josh Holly today.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
Yeah, well, silence is admission.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
And here's the real thing.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
At the end of the day, it wasn't just about
the money, really wasn't It was really about a power trip.
I mean, through all of this, you want to be
the most famous scientists in the world. You were so
focused on getting every award and every drop of cash
that you could, all because you wanted to be on TV.
You wanted to be the son god of science. You
wanted to be the guy who was in charge of
it all. You wanted to blam bass Trump. You wanted
(07:59):
to make sure that nobody else stole your spotlight. You
wanted to be the guy you had time to sit
for in Style magazine. Here's what you were doing with
your time. You could sit for in Style magazine, but
you can't answer questions for the American people. You could
sit for in Style magazine, but you're here taking the
fifth You could sit for in Style magazine and get
a million bucks in cash awards. But now the cat's
(08:22):
got your tongue. I bet he does. I tell you what.
Here's my conclusion from all of this. This was really
all about you the whole time. Somewhere along the way
you lost your way. You may have been a good
public servant at one time. I don't know, but I
can tell you from reading your emails now, from looking
at what you did, how you used your employees. Somewhere
along the line it became all about you. You became
(08:44):
a narcissist and a megalomaniac and a liar. And you've
lied to the American people, and you've lied to this body,
and you've disgraced your profession by doing it. You called
yourself the most famous scientist in the world. You've done
more to harm science than anybody in my lifetime. And
I hope you'll go home and write that diary.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Holly, sounds like somebody there, and I think he did
great work, But it sounds like he's trying to sound
like somebody there. You know, who would know who? He
sounds like? Ryan. I've got to ask gran because I remember,
I've never met Zach anybody who could instantly draw up
cultural or musical references the way Ryot can't. You gotta
(09:25):
be able to make some money on a game show
with that. But yeah, who was that? He's like some
kind of actor in some kind of of role like
that somebody, somebody will be able to put it together
for us three O three seven one three eight two
five five d an five seven seven three nine And
(09:46):
then this one instant classic.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
Well, nothing says honesty like taking the fifth hun Doc,
Let's try something.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
That what day of the week is it today?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
On the devisive Council? I, respectfully the clients and sebased
upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Color tie you're wearing.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
On the advisive Council, I respectfully the client to and
sebbased upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
What colors the carpet in front of you? On the advice?
You get the idea so very very effective. Hey, when
we come back, a lot of different stuff we want
to cover. I'll continue with some of this really powerful
sound from this expos Afauci today, but I also want
to touch on some other things. You've got Phil Wiser,
(10:35):
the Democrat nominee for governor, firing back at Victor Marx
after Victor Mark said yesterday he will do one debate,
one only and with no moderator. I'll give you Wiser's response,
and then get your take on where you think it
goes from her, which ties into another issue. You got
Democrats claiming that they're tied in the polls against Jeff
(10:55):
crank Dog, a great congressman, Republican congressman from Colorado Springs.
Do you believe that poll? Do you see a scenario
in this race where Republicans could lose Colorado Springs and
or lose Laurence District. Democrats say, it's there. You're on
the Dan Capla show.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
And now back to the Dan Kapler Show podcast.
Speaker 8 (11:20):
Trump said to me, we will never close down America
again as what happened in which I couldn't understand how
that happens. So rapidly we put out guidelines to slow
the spread, and the next thing we know, everything is
closed down. Now I know that doctor Fauti was having
private conversations with these governors and mayors to tell them
to close the schools and to tell them while we
(11:41):
were trying to figure out how to contain the virus
without doing all of that. A long way of saying,
you know, you have to follow what your commander in
chief is saying to you. That doesn't mean that you
change the science. It doesn't mean you change the data,
but you figure out a way to execute the plan
that they want. So when President Trump, on I think
(12:04):
April fourth, said we'll never do this again to the country,
we pivoted to how do we bring testing so that
people are aware of their status. No one wants to
infect anybody else. But if you get tests, instead of
quarantining people who are exposed, you just only tell the
people who are infected to stay home. That is a
very different approach. It worked fabulously in universities, is why
(12:27):
we were able to keep them open, and Secretary Devas
was working on keeping K through twelve open. There were solutions,
but it became very political, and we own yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I became political. And as Deborah Burke said, Fauci is
is secretly going out there trying to close down schools.
I mean, and he got busted through his diary, So
what should happen to him? Three or three seven one
three eight two five five d An five seven seven
three nine Dan from libs of TikTok Fauci under oath,
(12:57):
I never deleted official records. Also faut she please delete
this email.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Are you ready to take on the people of Colorado
against Fauci for all damages in civil court. What a
great question. And no, And here's the situation when when
you have government actors acting in their government capacity, there
are these layers of what's called governmental immunity that allows
(13:27):
them to get away with so much. Now it's hey,
it doesn't mean that there aren't exceptions. There are some exceptions,
and I've pursued some of those successfully. I'm just saying
it's very, very very hard to pursue a government official
in a context like this. Now, Hey, if you're talking
about a government official, you know, the government entity, government
employee who you know drives the truck through a red
(13:50):
light and hurt somebody. Yeah, you can pursue them. There
are going to be limits on the damages, but you
can pursue them. There are exceptions to governmental immunity state
in federal. So I don't want anybody out there has
been hurt by a government entity or employee to think, oh, no,
I can't sue him. No, talk to a good lawyer,
find out what the exceptions are. But trying to get
a guy like Fauci in a situation like this civilly,
(14:11):
I don't see that happening. I think there's more likely
to be success on the criminal side, you know, but
again that's going to have its challenges with the federal pardon.
Now to another texture's question, there are a couple of
textures coming in on the same point. How about this one, Dan,
Could Fauci still be prosecuted by the states in which
(14:32):
cases preemptive part and could not protect him in which
case could be the reason for completing the fifth I
agree with that analysis, and I offered it earlier in
the show. I think that that he could be subject
to some state prosecution in theory, but then you have
to go state by state and see what criminal law
(14:54):
you'd be trying to employ there, and that, to me
is going to be a whole lot tougher than looking
at federal law, since he was a federal employee and
that was the jurisdiction. So I think the state thing
in theory, yes, practically were I can't imagine we're ever
going to see that. I mean, you may get some aggressive,
(15:16):
ambitious attorney general in a red state somewhere who, if
they have a particular statute they think applies, might go
for it. And I think most of America would be
cheering that, but I am not predicting that. All right,
he got some more coming in here, as we should.
This is the sort of thing we can't just let
(15:36):
it become the new normal. There has to be We've
got to find a way to make sure Americans know
what happened here. And my concern, as I've said, is
it's the middle of summer. And Fauci's biggest mistake was
not referencing the US Constitution. He kept saying constitution. I
personally don't think that was his biggest mistake. I think
(15:57):
his biggest mistake was deciding to hurt all those kids
when the science didn't support it. Hurt all those kids,
I personally believed to feather his own nest politically and
in terms. His currency, right was being worshiped. That was
his currency, and so he was willing to have all
these little kids punished, have the country punished, because he
(16:18):
knew he's a smart guy. He knew that the left's
adoration of him was only because he was helping them
defeat Trump. COVID was the only thing that had any
chance of defeating Trump. In twenty twenty, I remember going
to the big rally for Trump down in Colorado Springs,
(16:38):
and it happened just as COVID was starting to shut
things down. Had not obviously by that point. I think
it was a late February thing, wasn't it. And Trump
was on a roll. He was going to win in
a landslide, as he should have. The only thing that
could deralm was COVID. Now that leads to us question,
(17:00):
I'd love your take on sometime. Has the country ended
up better off getting Trump in this separated second term.
I think a very strong argument can be made that
it has, because Trump is so much better prepared for
this second term than if he had slid into a
second term on the heels of COVID. The only reason
(17:22):
I wouldn't say to you, hey, if I had the
magic wand I would have chosen to do it this
way is the enormous cost to America and the world
of not having those back to back terms, because this
horrific mass rape and murder of Ukraine by Putin does
not happen when Trump's in office, So it was not
(17:43):
going to happen in those four years if Trump had
back to back terms. Now does it happen after that?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Maybe the same thing with October seventh. I know that
horrific holocaust that is not launched by Iran against Israel.
If Trump's still in office, you can be sure of that.
Does it then get launched after Trump completes back to
back terms, But in any case, I'm glad we have
him now and we need him. By the way, he
(18:09):
just came out and said he's going to beat the
blank and blank out of Iran for launching that attack
on our troops. So keep you posting on that here
on the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Yeah, well, silence is admission. And here's the real thing.
At the end of the day, it wasn't just about
the money, really wasn't It was really about a power trip.
I mean, through all of this, you want to be
the most famous scientists in the world. You were so
focused on getting every award and every drop of cash
that you could, all because you wanted to be on TV.
You wanted to be the sun God of science. You
(18:49):
wanted to be the guy who was in charge of
it all. You wanted to blam bass Trump. You wanted
to make sure that nobody else stole your spotlight. You
wanted to be the guy you had time to sit
for InStyle magazine. Here's what you were doing with your time.
You could sit for in Style magazine, but you can't
answer questions for the American people. You could sit for
in Style magazine. But you're here taking the fifth You
(19:11):
could sit for in Style magazine and get a million
bucks in cash awards. But now the cat's got your tongue.
I bet he does. I tell you what. Here's my
conclusion from all of this. This was really all about
you the whole time. Somewhere along the way you lost
your way. You may have been a good public servant
at one time. I don't know, but I can tell
you from reading your emails now, from looking at what
(19:32):
you did, how you used your employees. Somewhere along the
line it became all about you. You became a narcissist
and a megalomaniac and a liar, and you've lied to
the American people, and you've lied to this body, and
you've disgraced your profession by doing it. You called yourself
the most famous scientist in the world. You've done more
to harm science than anybody in my lifetime. And I
(19:52):
hope you'll go home and write that in your diary.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Great job, Bi, Josh Holly, today's here. But I've been
racking my brain trying to figure out he sounds like
somebody there, and he's trying to sound like somebody there.
I'm not being critical. I think he did a great job.
But I figured it out, Zach. And as soon as
I say it, you're going to agree with me. Frank Drebin,
(20:16):
Remember Frank.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
Yeah, that's a good call.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Frank Dreban from Police Squad and Naked Gun. When he
would do those narratives inside the movie, he might have
been a good cop at one point, but we'll never know.
I mean that sort of thing that you must have
been sitting around watching Naked Gun and Police all that
(20:40):
because and it's good, it's it's cool. It gets your attention, Texter.
The Florida a G has launched an investigation into Fauci.
Let's hope he succeeds. The pardon does not cover state
level crimes. That from Alexa, and I agree with Alexa.
I think it is so important, not because I want
to see this old man go to jail and feel
pain and all of that. It's not on a personal
(21:02):
level like that at all, as angry as I am
with him for all the kids he heard and damage
he did. No, it's just it's so important for deterrence
in the future because we just learned during COVID right
how much power these public health officials have once a
quote emergency is declared, and there are some great public
(21:23):
health officials, but we saw some real bozos and clowns
and egomaniacs and destructive forces, and it's very important. I
think that the message be sent that you will be
held accountable. I don't think that message is clear just
from this. I mean, did you hear that garbage from
ABC at the bottom? I have no idea why we
have that ABC national newscast on the show. Now you
(21:44):
hear our local newsroom on this show, and they're awesome,
But that ABC stuff is just political propaganda trying to
cover for Fauci at the bottom. They don't play any
of the Holly sound or any that. It's just, yeah,
it is what you already know. It is three oh
three seven one three eight two five five d an
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five seven seven three nine. So what do you think?
Phil Wiser fires back Victor Marx R GEOP nominee who
said he's only going to do one debate and that
will be without a moderator. And then, predictably, as we
talked about yesterday, Wiser comes back and says no, and
says he's only going to respond to you know, serious
statements from serious campaigns or something like that. So how
(22:30):
do you think that's going to play, because clearly at
this point there aren't going to be any debates. What
effect do you think that's going to have in the
governor's race? Now there may be I should take that back, right,
because you may get debates between Greg Lopez, the independent
non affiliated candidate, and Wiser. You may get those debates,
and then what effect do you think that has on
(22:51):
the race? You're only going to get those debates if
Wiser agrees to those debates, obviously, Greg would I think traditionally,
you know, candidates who feel like they're the underdog, that
they want to get as many debates as they can,
and and Greg's certainly going to want to do that.
But would Wiser agree? What's your theory on that? Three
h three seOne three eight two five five d an
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five seven seven three nine. Wiser, who views himself as
you know, having a big lead, and he's probably right
about that at this stage. Do you think he will
do any of these debates just with Greg Lopez? I
would think that, you know that this smart political money
would say no, why take the chance. I mean, Greg's
(23:36):
a good guy, and he's a smart guy, and Greg
could land some punches in a debate. But I wouldn't
be at all surprised if Wiser does some of those.
That the reason being I think Wiser feels it's already
in the bag and that Wiser now is running for
the next thing. You know, every governor looks in the
mirror and sees a president, so Wiser is is problem.
(23:59):
Probably now has those grand ambitions, and so anything you
can do to boost his name id boost his profile.
You know, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he
did some of those. And then what do you think
the net effect is on the governor's race? Three oh
three seven, one three eight two five five d An
five seven seven three nine. So many fauci texts coming in.
(24:24):
Some of them are just too long, Dan. I remember
you and George Brockler promising to defend anyone who assaulted
a store clerk for asking them to wear a mask?
What you and George Brockler promised to defend anyone who
assaulted a store clerk for asking them to wear a mask.
I've seen a lot of untrue statements made in my life.
(24:49):
That one is as false as one could possibly imagine.
So I guess my question is, why would somebody actually
sit down at a keyboard and just type out something
they know to be so false and defamatory. I guess
that's just you know, and it is. It's a subject
(25:11):
for a whole other show, right, Just these keyboard cowards
who will never call a show and you know, deliver
their lies, but they're perfectly comfortable doing that on a keyboard.
Oh my goodness. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
No.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
In fact, I remember that conversation back then. I took
a lot of heat on air for saying that, you
know what, let's respect the people. Let's respect the people
who are more comfortable with the masks on and are
asking you to put masks on, because even though we
know these masks are nonsense and if anything, they're counterproductive,
(25:53):
and they're a very dangerous form of conditioning being you know,
executed by the left. Let's just, on a personal level,
show some respect for people who have drank the kool
aid and just believe that the mask is necessary. And
I took a lot of heat for saying that, but
I stand by it, and I think it was the
(26:14):
right approach because going through a time like that, I
think half the battle is just finding a way to
get along with each other and to navigate through that.
And there were a whole lot of people who just
bought it. They just believed that the mask was really important.
So my attitude was, hey, might as well humor him
(26:34):
to a point, not the point of keeping kids out
of school. That's just child abuse, as we called it
at the time. But I don't expect and you couldn't
under the criminal Code, you really couldn't see Fauci prosecuted
for child abuse or anything like that. Hey, congratulations to
the seven hundred people in Colorado today who are having
(26:56):
one of the best feelings a human can have when
they finished the bar exam. I still remember when I
finished mine a long time ago, just feeling so great.
We take it at the stockyards, like our son Joe
just took it along with everybody else. And you take
it at the stockyards and you just, you know, walk
out of that building no ac by the way, and
(27:17):
you just feel so great because there is a lot
of stress going into that. But congrats to all who
have finished, and I hope they all pass. And very
proud of our son for all the work he put
in to prepare, like everybody else did, I'm sure, but
just so great to have that done. Three all three seven,
one three eight two five five d an five seven
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seven three nine. Hey, when we come back, a lot
of ground to cover in this last segment, I want
to give you a preview of what we're going to
be talking about tomorrow because I'd appreciate it if you
think about it. In the meantime, a Denver Post publishes
a list of what they claimed to be the one
hundred and fifty most influential people in Colorado history. And
(27:58):
you look at this thing and it's like the people
they left off and then the people they included. So
I'll talk a little bit more about that on the
other side, but would love your thoughts on who you
think the most influential people in Colorado history, not just
right now, have been, and so I want to touch
on that, but also take a few calls and text
(28:18):
also on the state of the race. Right now the
state of the governor's race. This move by Victor saying
you'll only debate if it's a debate without a moderator.
I really like that concept, but we all knew Wiser
would say no. And where do you think that leaves
the race. You're on the Dan Caplis Show.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Let's go straight to the phone lines Gilpin County. Great
to get a call from Gilpin. Dick, you're on the
Dan Caplis Show.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Here, I am wonderful. Hey, you know, my two favorite
influential people are either going to be Bill Daniels or
Adolf Cours.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Yeah, great point. And what Dick's talking about is I
was just teasing tomorrow's show where we're going to do
the Denver Post list of the one hundred and fifty
most influential in Colorado history. And so there are a
lot of good names on that list. I'll double check
right now, but I'm sure Bill Daniels is. Nobody could
ever do a list without Bill Daniels.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Hey, Dan, One other thing, is there any speculation on
how many Democrats voted in the Republican bry Mary.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
I don't think there's much speculation about Dems. I think
unaffiliated's overwhelmingly voted in the Democrat primary and what.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Well, yeah, thinking that Victor Marx is definitely a weaker
candidate than Barbara kurt Meyer.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
You know what's interesting, Dick, is we did not see
the left, in my opinion, play in our primary this
time around, though they often do. I think there was
so much action in the DEM primary and so much
money there, they just stayed there. Now, I think, to
your good point, we saw hundreds of thousands fewer unaffiliateds
(30:18):
I think vote in the GOP primary than we normally see.
I think they went to where they perceived the action
to be in the DEM primary. So I don't think
our primary, Dick, and please make the opposing case here,
my friend, I don't think our primary was determined by
Democrats who preferred Victor. I think the Marks campaign.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
No, it's not that they preferred Victor, that they saw
him as a weaker planidate, and that they than Barb Kirkmeyer.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Got you and I are saying the same thing, my friend.
I personally don't see data that suggests that's how this
came down. Nobody can know for sure, right, I think
I personally think what happened is the Marx campaign scoped
it out correctly that there'd be very few independents voting
in the primary, and they focused on their core block
(31:14):
of loyal supporters, and that was enough to get them
across the line. I think the other thing that happened
is Barb, who I think would be a tremendous governor.
I think Barb just started her campaign way too late.
She prioritized serving in the legislature on the Joint Budget Committee,
and I respect that, and she's been great on JBC.
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But I think that campaign just started in full too late.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Oh well, well, here it comes Phil Wiser pee wee
herman boy.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
I'll tell you he is going to be so so
far left. And you know, we've also has always got
to be brutally honest. The greatest Republican candidates in history,
as long as they were running for their first term.
I mean, Colorado tends to re elect its governors. But say,
if you took you know, take our greatest hits, did
take up a Bill Owens, Take any of our great
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Republican candidates in the past, if they were running for
their first term in this current environment against Phil wiser
they would have a very hard time. So any GOP
nominee was going to have a very hard time. That's
just the reality. So then the question is, Okay, when
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you know you're up against that, what do you do?
What do you have to do? What extraordinary things do
you have to do to give yourself the best chance
to win? And I think it's pretty clear when you're
up against those really tough odds to begin with. I
just think got to be everywhere at once, got to
be on the attack, got to be really creative and
(32:56):
reach every single person in the state to the extent
you possibly can. I think that's the only way there's
a chance. Wow. Well, I don't know about you, Zach.
I'm looking forward to this conversation tomorrow about this post
list of one hundred and fifty most influential in Colorado history.
I don't know how anybody can do that list without
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putting Bill Owens on it. He's not. I don't know
how you can do that list without putting Dave Logan
on it. He's not. And there are some sports people,
but Dave kind of transcends sports. I mean, Colorado's never
had anybody like.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
Him, you know, for Colorado.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Mister Colorado, right, I mean, drafted in three sports, NFL player,
won so many state championships. But he's also been the
voice of the Broncos and he's done the radio show
for years and years. And I bet if you did
a name ID credibility poll in Colorado, you think there's
anybody who would beat Dave Logan in that few and
(34:01):
far between, well, who would. Let's think about it for
a second combination name I D and favorability, John Elway.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
If we're saying non professional athletes, Logan might beat everyone
save like the biggest most visible politicians.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Yeah, I think yeah, John Elway and and Lway you know,
would just say he's so underappreciated as a quarterback and
for what he did for Colorado sports. I mean I'm
still mad at him for what he did to Tebow,
which really deprived this city for a lot of years.
But he did so many great things. He deserves to
be there. But yeah, who else? And I'm talking about
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that combination of name I D plus favorability. Very few
people would top date. And I'm not just trying to
lobby for a friend and somebody who has a studio cross.
I'm just being realistic about those. But how do you
not have Bill Owens on it? And then how do
you have a couple of marijuana people on it? Because
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most influential is supposed to be in a positive sense,
how do you put two marijuana people on there who
just did so much to cause so much harm to
this state through legalization. Thanks Zach, great job catching them up.
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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single day on your favorite podcast platform. That he was,
and the Left made him out to be literally a
god who could not be questioned. If you questioned him,
(00:23):
you were questioning science. Because of course, the left knew
the only way they could defeat Trump was COVID, So
they needed COVID to be as disruptive to everyday life
as possible, starting with the kids. And so they were willing,
and Fauci was a useful, willing idiot to go out
there and to harm the kids in this nation in
so many ways that had no basis in science and
(00:46):
was all about power politics and Fauci, you know, trying
to turn himself into a god. And now it's all
getting exposed. And the only reason it's getting exposed is
some really good smart work by the Trump administration, you know.
And we don't have the details now, My guess is
they use some forensic experts and they were able to
get in and pull Fauci's diaries off government computers, and
(01:10):
I assumed that he had deleted him. But obviously you
can get in with the right kind of systems and
get what's left. And that's what brought him down today.
Otherwise he'd still be up there telling the same lies.
So we're gonna play some of that sound. It really
is to be savored, and I hope extended because right
now most Americans aren't paying attention. Right it's the middle
of summer, and America needs to know what happened here.
(01:33):
So we're going to play a lot of that sound.
Some great texts coming in three oh three, seven, one,
three eight, two, five five if you prefer to call
which I love, I'm gonna throw back d An five
seven seven three nine two text so I'm sure you
know the headline paint out right. Fauchi took the fifth
over and over and over again, tried to blame Ran
(01:54):
Paul said he had some weird obsession with him. Which
do you think, Fauch he really believed these words as
he said them.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
During and after the COVID pandemic. I have appeared multiple
times for hearings in the Senate and the House, usually
under oaths, and sat for several days long transcribed sworn interviews,
answering questions about.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
The very issues that are now the subject of this hearing. Yeah,
but his bogus, false opinions and recommendations aren't subject to
a perjury charge. Those are opinions.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
However, given Senator Paul's obvious obsession with calling for my prosecution,
his repeated slanderous comments about.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Me, could you be a little more specific, doctor Fauci,
because I'm not aware of any and Rain Paul was
calling for prosecution because he believed you committed perjury in
testimony about gain of function research, and Ran Paul made
his case. I mean, with specific facts, whether you think
it rises to the level of fouls, you should be
(03:11):
prosecuted or not. But Ran Paul laid out his facts.
Where are yours, doctor Fauci.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
And recently is publicly releasing my unredacted personal diary.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Personal diary. It's on government computers. I mean, this isn't
some little pink book under the bed.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Aimed at embarrassing and intimidating me.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
He only he.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Cannot possibly believe that, right. No, it was aimed at
exposing you, exposing your lives, which is exactly what it did.
You are publicly stating that you never called for any
kids to be kept out of school, and the diaries
prove the opposite, prove the opposite.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Shameless conclusion I can reach is that the sole reason
he is calling me before this committee to get me
to say something, anything that could vindicate his repeated public
pledges that I end up in his words, quote behind bars.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Well, wait a second, do you really think, doctor Fauci,
do you doubt that Rand Paul wanted you in front
of the committee so that you would have to answer
for what's in your diary. That's not a perjury trap.
That's just proving you lied to the American people. So
why was Rand Why was Fauci taking the fifth today?
(04:35):
Is it because if he had testified truthfully, he would
have ended up with criminal liability. No, I don't think
that was the reason at all. I think he took
the fifth today to avoid answering these fair questions about
the lies he told the American people, because listen him,
as far as I know, maybe I'm missing something, I'm
(04:56):
sure somebody will point it out if I am. But
him standing up and lying to the American people about
COVID and making recommendations he knew, had to know, weren't
justified and would harm many many, starting with the children.
I don't think that's criminally prosecutable. It's immoral, it's horrific,
(05:18):
but not every immoral, horrific act is criminally prosecutable. And again,
maybe I'm missing something somewhere, but no, I think the
fifth today was all about avoiding a very cowardly avoidance
of being held accountable to the American people for his lives.
He loves being in the media, right, He loves being
(05:38):
the center of attention, being the star when everybody's kissing
as you know what. But when he's caught line, No,
he doesn't want to have to answer to the American people.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I just.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
My great frustration is that a lot of the American
people are not going to learn about what's happened here
because you know, obviously most of the media wants to
protect Fauci, to protect the Democrats.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
So I hope somehow this full story can be told
again in the fall, when most people are actually paying attention. Now,
Josh Holly, he was a star today, But let's before
we go back to that, a little bit of rand Paul,
who is ever lasting credit. He stayed on this, He
kept digging and brought it to today.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Regarding the lockdowns, you argue that you did not personally
issue every lockdown, order, close every school, or impose every mandate,
but officials across the country invoked your authority to justify
these decisions, and you presented your recommendations not as judgments
open to debate, but as dictates of science itself. Your
(06:41):
own words demonstrate that you understood the influence you exercised.
On March fourteenth, twenty twenty, you wrote that the task
Force recommendations were driven by me, yourself, deb and CDC.
The next day, you wrote that you had convinced Mayor
or Bill de Blasio to close the New York City schools,
so you were involved. That same night, Governor Gavin Newsom's
(07:05):
chief of staff told you that the governor had decided.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
To close California schools, bars and restaurants after watching you
on television. Presidents, governors, mayors, school boards, corporations, and congress
all bear responsibility for the decisions they made. The COVID lockdown, however,
could never have been inflicted without you aiding and abetting
the crime.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah, no, that's exactly right, exactly right, and then again
great work by Josh Holly today.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
Yeah, well, silence is admission.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
And here's the real thing.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
At the end of the day, it wasn't just about
the money, really wasn't It was really about a power trip.
I mean, through all of this, you want to be
the most famous scientists in the world. You were so
focused on getting every award and every drop of cash
that you could, all because you wanted to be on TV.
You wanted to be the son god of science. You
wanted to be the guy who was in charge of
it all. You wanted to blam bass Trump. You wanted
(07:59):
to make sure that nobody else stole your spotlight. You
wanted to be the guy you had time to sit
for in Style magazine. Here's what you were doing with
your time. You could sit for in Style magazine, but
you can't answer questions for the American people. You could
sit for in Style magazine, but you're here taking the
fifth You could sit for in Style magazine and get
a million bucks in cash awards. But now the cat's
(08:22):
got your tongue. I bet he does. I tell you what.
Here's my conclusion from all of this. This was really
all about you the whole time. Somewhere along the way
you lost your way. You may have been a good
public servant at one time. I don't know, but I
can tell you from reading your emails now, from looking
at what you did, how you used your employees. Somewhere
along the line it became all about you. You became
(08:44):
a narcissist and a megalomaniac and a liar. And you've
lied to the American people, and you've lied to this body,
and you've disgraced your profession by doing it. You called
yourself the most famous scientist in the world. You've done
more to harm science than anybody in my lifetime. And
I hope you'll go home and write that diary.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Holly, sounds like somebody there, and I think he did
great work, But it sounds like he's trying to sound
like somebody there. You know, who would know who? He
sounds like? Ryan. I've got to ask gran because I remember,
I've never met Zach anybody who could instantly draw up
cultural or musical references the way Ryot can't. You gotta
(09:25):
be able to make some money on a game show
with that. But yeah, who was that? He's like some
kind of actor in some kind of of role like
that somebody, somebody will be able to put it together
for us three O three seven one three eight two
five five d an five seven seven three nine And
(09:46):
then this one instant classic.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
Well, nothing says honesty like taking the fifth hun Doc,
Let's try something.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
That what day of the week is it today?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
On the devisive Council? I, respectfully the clients and sebased
upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Color tie you're wearing.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
On the advisive Council, I respectfully the client to and
sebbased upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
What colors the carpet in front of you? On the advice?
You get the idea so very very effective. Hey, when
we come back, a lot of different stuff we want
to cover. I'll continue with some of this really powerful
sound from this expos Afauci today, but I also want
to touch on some other things. You've got Phil Wiser,
(10:35):
the Democrat nominee for governor, firing back at Victor Marx
after Victor Mark said yesterday he will do one debate,
one only and with no moderator. I'll give you Wiser's response,
and then get your take on where you think it
goes from her, which ties into another issue. You got
Democrats claiming that they're tied in the polls against Jeff
(10:55):
crank Dog, a great congressman, Republican congressman from Colorado Springs.
Do you believe that poll? Do you see a scenario
in this race where Republicans could lose Colorado Springs and
or lose Laurence District. Democrats say, it's there. You're on
the Dan Capla show.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
And now back to the Dan Kapler Show podcast.
Speaker 8 (11:20):
Trump said to me, we will never close down America
again as what happened in which I couldn't understand how
that happens. So rapidly we put out guidelines to slow
the spread, and the next thing we know, everything is
closed down. Now I know that doctor Fauti was having
private conversations with these governors and mayors to tell them
to close the schools and to tell them while we
(11:41):
were trying to figure out how to contain the virus
without doing all of that. A long way of saying,
you know, you have to follow what your commander in
chief is saying to you. That doesn't mean that you
change the science. It doesn't mean you change the data,
but you figure out a way to execute the plan
that they want. So when President Trump, on I think
(12:04):
April fourth, said we'll never do this again to the country,
we pivoted to how do we bring testing so that
people are aware of their status. No one wants to
infect anybody else. But if you get tests, instead of
quarantining people who are exposed, you just only tell the
people who are infected to stay home. That is a
very different approach. It worked fabulously in universities, is why
(12:27):
we were able to keep them open, and Secretary Devas
was working on keeping K through twelve open. There were solutions,
but it became very political, and we own yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I became political. And as Deborah Burke said, Fauci is
is secretly going out there trying to close down schools.
I mean, and he got busted through his diary, So
what should happen to him? Three or three seven one
three eight two five five d An five seven seven
three nine Dan from libs of TikTok Fauci under oath,
(12:57):
I never deleted official records. Also faut she please delete
this email.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Are you ready to take on the people of Colorado
against Fauci for all damages in civil court. What a
great question. And no, And here's the situation when when
you have government actors acting in their government capacity, there
are these layers of what's called governmental immunity that allows
(13:27):
them to get away with so much. Now it's hey,
it doesn't mean that there aren't exceptions. There are some exceptions,
and I've pursued some of those successfully. I'm just saying
it's very, very very hard to pursue a government official
in a context like this. Now, Hey, if you're talking
about a government official, you know, the government entity, government
employee who you know drives the truck through a red
(13:50):
light and hurt somebody. Yeah, you can pursue them. There
are going to be limits on the damages, but you
can pursue them. There are exceptions to governmental immunity state
in federal. So I don't want anybody out there has
been hurt by a government entity or employee to think, oh, no,
I can't sue him. No, talk to a good lawyer,
find out what the exceptions are. But trying to get
a guy like Fauci in a situation like this civilly,
(14:11):
I don't see that happening. I think there's more likely
to be success on the criminal side, you know, but
again that's going to have its challenges with the federal pardon.
Now to another texture's question, there are a couple of
textures coming in on the same point. How about this one, Dan,
Could Fauci still be prosecuted by the states in which
(14:32):
cases preemptive part and could not protect him in which
case could be the reason for completing the fifth I
agree with that analysis, and I offered it earlier in
the show. I think that that he could be subject
to some state prosecution in theory, but then you have
to go state by state and see what criminal law
(14:54):
you'd be trying to employ there, and that, to me
is going to be a whole lot tougher than looking
at federal law, since he was a federal employee and
that was the jurisdiction. So I think the state thing
in theory, yes, practically were I can't imagine we're ever
going to see that. I mean, you may get some aggressive,
(15:16):
ambitious attorney general in a red state somewhere who, if
they have a particular statute they think applies, might go
for it. And I think most of America would be
cheering that, but I am not predicting that. All right,
he got some more coming in here, as we should.
This is the sort of thing we can't just let
(15:36):
it become the new normal. There has to be We've
got to find a way to make sure Americans know
what happened here. And my concern, as I've said, is
it's the middle of summer. And Fauci's biggest mistake was
not referencing the US Constitution. He kept saying constitution. I
personally don't think that was his biggest mistake. I think
(15:57):
his biggest mistake was deciding to hurt all those kids
when the science didn't support it. Hurt all those kids,
I personally believed to feather his own nest politically and
in terms. His currency, right was being worshiped. That was
his currency, and so he was willing to have all
these little kids punished, have the country punished, because he
(16:18):
knew he's a smart guy. He knew that the left's
adoration of him was only because he was helping them
defeat Trump. COVID was the only thing that had any
chance of defeating Trump. In twenty twenty, I remember going
to the big rally for Trump down in Colorado Springs,
(16:38):
and it happened just as COVID was starting to shut
things down. Had not obviously by that point. I think
it was a late February thing, wasn't it. And Trump
was on a roll. He was going to win in
a landslide, as he should have. The only thing that
could deralm was COVID. Now that leads to us question,
(17:00):
I'd love your take on sometime. Has the country ended
up better off getting Trump in this separated second term.
I think a very strong argument can be made that
it has, because Trump is so much better prepared for
this second term than if he had slid into a
second term on the heels of COVID. The only reason
(17:22):
I wouldn't say to you, hey, if I had the
magic wand I would have chosen to do it this
way is the enormous cost to America and the world
of not having those back to back terms, because this
horrific mass rape and murder of Ukraine by Putin does
not happen when Trump's in office, So it was not
(17:43):
going to happen in those four years if Trump had
back to back terms. Now does it happen after that?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Maybe the same thing with October seventh. I know that
horrific holocaust that is not launched by Iran against Israel.
If Trump's still in office, you can be sure of that.
Does it then get launched after Trump completes back to
back terms, But in any case, I'm glad we have
him now and we need him. By the way, he
(18:09):
just came out and said he's going to beat the
blank and blank out of Iran for launching that attack
on our troops. So keep you posting on that here
on the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Yeah, well, silence is admission. And here's the real thing.
At the end of the day, it wasn't just about
the money, really wasn't It was really about a power trip.
I mean, through all of this, you want to be
the most famous scientists in the world. You were so
focused on getting every award and every drop of cash
that you could, all because you wanted to be on TV.
You wanted to be the sun God of science. You
(18:49):
wanted to be the guy who was in charge of
it all. You wanted to blam bass Trump. You wanted
to make sure that nobody else stole your spotlight. You
wanted to be the guy you had time to sit
for InStyle magazine. Here's what you were doing with your time.
You could sit for in Style magazine, but you can't
answer questions for the American people. You could sit for
in Style magazine. But you're here taking the fifth You
(19:11):
could sit for in Style magazine and get a million
bucks in cash awards. But now the cat's got your tongue.
I bet he does. I tell you what. Here's my
conclusion from all of this. This was really all about
you the whole time. Somewhere along the way you lost
your way. You may have been a good public servant
at one time. I don't know, but I can tell
you from reading your emails now, from looking at what
(19:32):
you did, how you used your employees. Somewhere along the
line it became all about you. You became a narcissist
and a megalomaniac and a liar, and you've lied to
the American people, and you've lied to this body, and
you've disgraced your profession by doing it. You called yourself
the most famous scientist in the world. You've done more
to harm science than anybody in my lifetime. And I
(19:52):
hope you'll go home and write that in your diary.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Great job, Bi, Josh Holly, today's here. But I've been
racking my brain trying to figure out he sounds like
somebody there, and he's trying to sound like somebody there.
I'm not being critical. I think he did a great job.
But I figured it out, Zach. And as soon as
I say it, you're going to agree with me. Frank Drebin,
(20:16):
Remember Frank.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
Yeah, that's a good call.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Frank Dreban from Police Squad and Naked Gun. When he
would do those narratives inside the movie, he might have
been a good cop at one point, but we'll never know.
I mean that sort of thing that you must have
been sitting around watching Naked Gun and Police all that
(20:40):
because and it's good, it's it's cool. It gets your attention, Texter.
The Florida a G has launched an investigation into Fauci.
Let's hope he succeeds. The pardon does not cover state
level crimes. That from Alexa, and I agree with Alexa.
I think it is so important, not because I want
to see this old man go to jail and feel
pain and all of that. It's not on a personal
(21:02):
level like that at all, as angry as I am
with him for all the kids he heard and damage
he did. No, it's just it's so important for deterrence
in the future because we just learned during COVID right
how much power these public health officials have once a
quote emergency is declared, and there are some great public
(21:23):
health officials, but we saw some real bozos and clowns
and egomaniacs and destructive forces, and it's very important. I
think that the message be sent that you will be
held accountable. I don't think that message is clear just
from this. I mean, did you hear that garbage from
ABC at the bottom? I have no idea why we
have that ABC national newscast on the show. Now you
(21:44):
hear our local newsroom on this show, and they're awesome,
But that ABC stuff is just political propaganda trying to
cover for Fauci at the bottom. They don't play any
of the Holly sound or any that. It's just, yeah,
it is what you already know. It is three oh
three seven one three eight two five five d an
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five seven seven three nine. So what do you think?
Phil Wiser fires back Victor Marx R GEOP nominee who
said he's only going to do one debate and that
will be without a moderator. And then, predictably, as we
talked about yesterday, Wiser comes back and says no, and
says he's only going to respond to you know, serious
statements from serious campaigns or something like that. So how
(22:30):
do you think that's going to play, because clearly at
this point there aren't going to be any debates. What
effect do you think that's going to have in the
governor's race? Now there may be I should take that back, right,
because you may get debates between Greg Lopez, the independent
non affiliated candidate, and Wiser. You may get those debates,
and then what effect do you think that has on
(22:51):
the race? You're only going to get those debates if
Wiser agrees to those debates, obviously, Greg would I think traditionally,
you know, candidates who feel like they're the underdog, that
they want to get as many debates as they can,
and and Greg's certainly going to want to do that.
But would Wiser agree? What's your theory on that? Three
h three seOne three eight two five five d an
(23:13):
five seven seven three nine. Wiser, who views himself as
you know, having a big lead, and he's probably right
about that at this stage. Do you think he will
do any of these debates just with Greg Lopez? I
would think that, you know that this smart political money
would say no, why take the chance. I mean, Greg's
(23:36):
a good guy, and he's a smart guy, and Greg
could land some punches in a debate. But I wouldn't
be at all surprised if Wiser does some of those.
That the reason being I think Wiser feels it's already
in the bag and that Wiser now is running for
the next thing. You know, every governor looks in the
mirror and sees a president, so Wiser is is problem.
(23:59):
Probably now has those grand ambitions, and so anything you
can do to boost his name id boost his profile.
You know, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he
did some of those. And then what do you think
the net effect is on the governor's race? Three oh
three seven, one three eight two five five d An
five seven seven three nine. So many fauci texts coming in.
(24:24):
Some of them are just too long, Dan. I remember
you and George Brockler promising to defend anyone who assaulted
a store clerk for asking them to wear a mask?
What you and George Brockler promised to defend anyone who
assaulted a store clerk for asking them to wear a mask.
I've seen a lot of untrue statements made in my life.
(24:49):
That one is as false as one could possibly imagine.
So I guess my question is, why would somebody actually
sit down at a keyboard and just type out something
they know to be so false and defamatory. I guess
that's just you know, and it is. It's a subject
(25:11):
for a whole other show, right, Just these keyboard cowards
who will never call a show and you know, deliver
their lies, but they're perfectly comfortable doing that on a keyboard.
Oh my goodness. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
No.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
In fact, I remember that conversation back then. I took
a lot of heat on air for saying that, you
know what, let's respect the people. Let's respect the people
who are more comfortable with the masks on and are
asking you to put masks on, because even though we
know these masks are nonsense and if anything, they're counterproductive,
(25:53):
and they're a very dangerous form of conditioning being you know,
executed by the left. Let's just, on a personal level,
show some respect for people who have drank the kool
aid and just believe that the mask is necessary. And
I took a lot of heat for saying that, but
I stand by it, and I think it was the
(26:14):
right approach because going through a time like that, I
think half the battle is just finding a way to
get along with each other and to navigate through that.
And there were a whole lot of people who just
bought it. They just believed that the mask was really important.
So my attitude was, hey, might as well humor him
(26:34):
to a point, not the point of keeping kids out
of school. That's just child abuse, as we called it
at the time. But I don't expect and you couldn't
under the criminal Code, you really couldn't see Fauci prosecuted
for child abuse or anything like that. Hey, congratulations to
the seven hundred people in Colorado today who are having
(26:56):
one of the best feelings a human can have when
they finished the bar exam. I still remember when I
finished mine a long time ago, just feeling so great.
We take it at the stockyards, like our son Joe
just took it along with everybody else. And you take
it at the stockyards and you just, you know, walk
out of that building no ac by the way, and
(27:17):
you just feel so great because there is a lot
of stress going into that. But congrats to all who
have finished, and I hope they all pass. And very
proud of our son for all the work he put
in to prepare, like everybody else did, I'm sure, but
just so great to have that done. Three all three seven,
one three eight two five five d an five seven
(27:38):
seven three nine. Hey, when we come back, a lot
of ground to cover in this last segment, I want
to give you a preview of what we're going to
be talking about tomorrow because I'd appreciate it if you
think about it. In the meantime, a Denver Post publishes
a list of what they claimed to be the one
hundred and fifty most influential people in Colorado history. And
(27:58):
you look at this thing and it's like the people
they left off and then the people they included. So
I'll talk a little bit more about that on the
other side, but would love your thoughts on who you
think the most influential people in Colorado history, not just
right now, have been, and so I want to touch
on that, but also take a few calls and text
(28:18):
also on the state of the race. Right now the
state of the governor's race. This move by Victor saying
you'll only debate if it's a debate without a moderator.
I really like that concept, but we all knew Wiser
would say no. And where do you think that leaves
the race. You're on the Dan Caplis Show.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Let's go straight to the phone lines Gilpin County. Great
to get a call from Gilpin. Dick, you're on the
Dan Caplis Show.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Here, I am wonderful. Hey, you know, my two favorite
influential people are either going to be Bill Daniels or
Adolf Cours.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Yeah, great point. And what Dick's talking about is I
was just teasing tomorrow's show where we're going to do
the Denver Post list of the one hundred and fifty
most influential in Colorado history. And so there are a
lot of good names on that list. I'll double check
right now, but I'm sure Bill Daniels is. Nobody could
ever do a list without Bill Daniels.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Hey, Dan, One other thing, is there any speculation on
how many Democrats voted in the Republican bry Mary.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
I don't think there's much speculation about Dems. I think
unaffiliated's overwhelmingly voted in the Democrat primary and what.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Well, yeah, thinking that Victor Marx is definitely a weaker
candidate than Barbara kurt Meyer.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
You know what's interesting, Dick, is we did not see
the left, in my opinion, play in our primary this
time around, though they often do. I think there was
so much action in the DEM primary and so much
money there, they just stayed there. Now, I think, to
your good point, we saw hundreds of thousands fewer unaffiliateds
(30:18):
I think vote in the GOP primary than we normally see.
I think they went to where they perceived the action
to be in the DEM primary. So I don't think
our primary, Dick, and please make the opposing case here,
my friend, I don't think our primary was determined by
Democrats who preferred Victor. I think the Marks campaign.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
No, it's not that they preferred Victor, that they saw
him as a weaker planidate, and that they than Barb Kirkmeyer.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Got you and I are saying the same thing, my friend.
I personally don't see data that suggests that's how this
came down. Nobody can know for sure, right, I think
I personally think what happened is the Marx campaign scoped
it out correctly that there'd be very few independents voting
in the primary, and they focused on their core block
(31:14):
of loyal supporters, and that was enough to get them
across the line. I think the other thing that happened
is Barb, who I think would be a tremendous governor.
I think Barb just started her campaign way too late.
She prioritized serving in the legislature on the Joint Budget Committee,
and I respect that, and she's been great on JBC.
(31:36):
But I think that campaign just started in full too late.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Oh well, well, here it comes Phil Wiser pee wee
herman boy.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
I'll tell you he is going to be so so
far left. And you know, we've also has always got
to be brutally honest. The greatest Republican candidates in history,
as long as they were running for their first term.
I mean, Colorado tends to re elect its governors. But say,
if you took you know, take our greatest hits, did
take up a Bill Owens, Take any of our great
(32:11):
Republican candidates in the past, if they were running for
their first term in this current environment against Phil wiser
they would have a very hard time. So any GOP
nominee was going to have a very hard time. That's
just the reality. So then the question is, Okay, when
(32:33):
you know you're up against that, what do you do?
What do you have to do? What extraordinary things do
you have to do to give yourself the best chance
to win? And I think it's pretty clear when you're
up against those really tough odds to begin with. I
just think got to be everywhere at once, got to
be on the attack, got to be really creative and
(32:56):
reach every single person in the state to the extent
you possibly can. I think that's the only way there's
a chance. Wow. Well, I don't know about you, Zach.
I'm looking forward to this conversation tomorrow about this post
list of one hundred and fifty most influential in Colorado history.
I don't know how anybody can do that list without
(33:18):
putting Bill Owens on it. He's not. I don't know
how you can do that list without putting Dave Logan
on it. He's not. And there are some sports people,
but Dave kind of transcends sports. I mean, Colorado's never
had anybody like.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
Him, you know, for Colorado.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Mister Colorado, right, I mean, drafted in three sports, NFL player,
won so many state championships. But he's also been the
voice of the Broncos and he's done the radio show
for years and years. And I bet if you did
a name ID credibility poll in Colorado, you think there's
anybody who would beat Dave Logan in that few and
(34:01):
far between, well, who would. Let's think about it for
a second combination name I D and favorability, John Elway.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
If we're saying non professional athletes, Logan might beat everyone
save like the biggest most visible politicians.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Yeah, I think yeah, John Elway and and Lway you know,
would just say he's so underappreciated as a quarterback and
for what he did for Colorado sports. I mean I'm
still mad at him for what he did to Tebow,
which really deprived this city for a lot of years.
But he did so many great things. He deserves to
be there. But yeah, who else? And I'm talking about
(34:40):
that combination of name I D plus favorability. Very few
people would top date. And I'm not just trying to
lobby for a friend and somebody who has a studio cross.
I'm just being realistic about those. But how do you
not have Bill Owens on it? And then how do
you have a couple of marijuana people on it? Because
(35:00):
most influential is supposed to be in a positive sense,
how do you put two marijuana people on there who
just did so much to cause so much harm to
this state through legalization. Thanks Zach, great job catching them up.
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