June 4, 2026 • 35 mins
The Colorado GOP primary is heating up, and this episode is a must-listen for anyone following the drama. The speaker dives into the latest developments, including the Daily Show's take on the debate and the intriguing story of Victor Marx, a candidate who's been making waves with his claims of heroism and bravery. But is he the real deal, or is he a con man? The speaker breaks down the facts and shares his own thoughts on the matter, leaving listeners to decide for themselves.
This episode is a deep dive into the world of Colorado politics, where the stakes are high and the players are getting more and more desperate. The speaker discusses the latest news and developments, including the Department of Education's investigation into Jefferson County's policies on bathrooms and locker rooms. He also talks to a special guest about the latest updates on this story and what it means for the community.
The speaker also tackles the question on everyone's mind: is Victor Marx a hero or a con man? He shares his own thoughts on the matter, based on the facts and evidence presented, and leaves listeners to draw their own conclusions. But what's clear is that this is a story that's not going away anytime soon, and the speaker is committed to getting to the bottom of it.
If you're interested in staying up-to-date on the latest news and developments in Colorado politics, this episode is a must-listen. The speaker shares his insights and analysis, and offers a unique perspective on the stories that matter most. So grab a cup of coffee, settle in, and get ready to dive into the world of Colorado politics.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Caples and welcome to today's online podcast
edition of The Dankplas Show. Please be sure to give
us a five star rating if you'd be so kind,
and to subscribe, download, and listen to the show every
single day on your favorite podcast platform. Donald who was
just given two hours in the butcher Shop and they
start right now three or three seven one three eight
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two five five d an five seven seven three nine.
I've been an era about thirty years. I can't remember
a more crazy interesting time than the one we're in
right now. And yeah, a lot of stuff around the
world in America, but this whole GOP primary in Colorado
and then the general behind it and the state of
both parties right now, it's just absolutely amazing.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
And it was funny.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Our daughter Caroline asked me last night, how was the debate?
And I said, I haven't had that much fun in
a very long time. I mean, she said, well, let's
go watch it again. It was just it was just
like a Saturday Night Live skit. I mean, now we're
long Saturday n Light Live skit. I did not want
(01:03):
it to end.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
And one of the enduring mysteries is the dog is
the dog?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
How did Reagan the dog and beautiful dog, incredibly well behaved,
really sweet. How did he get on the stage? I mean,
talk about a cushy thank you? How about a I
don't think that was reported in the broadcast. How did
you learn that, my friend? I have my sources, Yeah,
but you know, and hey, what a coup by Victor
Martz to get that dog on the stage.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
And I still would love to know how that happened.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
But anyway, we got all that to talk about. Ryan
and I have not done a show together for the longest.
It was the longest stretch I've ever been off air
while we were on just a phenomenal family trip and
culminating with our son graduating from law school. And I
think yesterday all these superstars he can't call him fill
in hosts. They're superstars and you know, life in their
(01:54):
own areas, who were kind enough to do shows while
I was gone. But we want to dive even deep
or into the debate. And there are some new developments
on the post debate front, including the Daily Show taking
on the debate, and so that's kind of fun. So
we'll do all that. I've got some insights. I don't
think you here anywhere else, whether you agree with them
(02:14):
or not. About the debate and where things stand and
what happens moving forward. There's some really interesting Michael Bennetts
sound that I want.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
To get to.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
In fact, I will ride out of the gates, so
I don't forget because it'll make you laugh and we
all need to laugh more.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
It will also, I think you make.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
You more encouraged about the future of the GOP in Colorado.
And I understand why you may have doubts about that
right now, because we just had a debate where two
of the three candidates said they won't support the purported
front runner if he's the nominee. So at that point
that guarantees defeat. Now everybody's assuming the GOP candidate will
lose the general anyway, but at that point, it just
(02:52):
guarantees defeat because just the math, I mean, the GOP candidate,
whoever she or he is, you can out win without
a fairly unite Republican party.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
So yeah, so much to talk about.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
There other things in the world we need to get to, certainly,
but let me open with this with this Michael benneclipp
because it ties into the political scene in Colorado obviously,
but this is Bennett on CNN and this is today,
I believe this is today or last night.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
And you'll listen to this answer, and it will just prove.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Why he is absolutely not qualified to be governor of
the state of Colorado. And it will show you confirm
why he was just a stunningly ineffective US senator. And
he's being asked by Friendly CNN. He's being asked about,
you know, their dogg and Trump for this or that,
(03:47):
and then he's asked about Graham Plattner. You know, this
Democrat sent a candidate in Maine who the Democrats have
rallied behind. They think they can knock off Susan Collins.
And I won't go through the laundry list. I'm sure
you know the story. But this guy, you know again,
it's like a Saturday night leafskin hate come up with
the come up with a candidate who is sure to
lose in Maine, and they find Graham Plattner, Nazi Tantu.
(04:11):
You know, he's got all of this sextem with women
while he's married. He has all sorts of issues. And
so Michael Bennett is asked about him on Friendly CNN,
and listen to the response, which I just think is disqualifying.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I mean, you obviously don't think the president meets that
high standard that you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Does Graham Plattner meet that high standard in your view?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Well, I definitely don't think the president meets that standard.
He's proven since the day that he was elected to
office that he I think grand I think that's a
fair question. That is what the election in Maine is
going to partly be about, and he's going to have
to withstand the scrutiny of the people of Maine. That's
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what our elections.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Are all about.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
What's your view, I'm busy running for governor of Colorado.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
When was the castration? Was it public?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Because these these senators they have to release medical records?
Right when was the castration?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
But the reason I played that to start the show
is we're talking a lot about the state of the
GOP right now, right, you know, and the Democrats are
going to win a bunch of stuff coming up here
that I think the GOP has a real shot at
the AG's race, and I would not write off the
governor's race depending on how things break.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
But here's the point.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
The Democrats have a whole lot of trouble themselves. And
that's a good starting point because that that truly is
is somebody who should not be in any elective office,
let alone a US Senator position, unwilling to take a
position one way or the other on that.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
And so that's some of the good news out there.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
And my quick point on that before we get on
to the rest of this, tying to the debate, is
that if you want Republicans to start winning statewide again,
if you want Republicans to start you gaining in these
local races, it's very important that if the next Democrat
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is Goot, the next governor of Colorado's going to be
a Democrat, very important that it be Michael Bennett, very
very important that it be Michael Bennett.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
The guy is a zero.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
He's a completely empty suit. And so if we have
to have I hope we don't, but if we have
to have a Democrat governor, you want it to be
Michael Bennett because at that point he's beatable in four years.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
At that point you know.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
That he's going to be, as he was in the
US Senate, completely ineffective, and he will be beatable in
four years.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Why is there any reason.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
To think that a guy who was so ineffective in
the US Senate and you just heard you know him
expose himself on CNN. What reason would there be to
think that's going to change when he's governor. He will
fail as governor. Unfortunately, that's bad for the state. I
don't want anything bad to happen in the state. I'm
just talking about reality. He will fail as governor and
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he will be beatable in four years. But in the meantime,
there will be great dissension within the Democratic Party because
you will have another unaccomplished, old white guy get a
top job, and you're going to have a lot of
resentment in the Democratic Party. You're going to have rebellion
over that. You're going to have Wiser and listen, Wiser
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would be far worse for the state as governor because
while he and Bennett are equally far left, Wiser would
be much more effective as governor, and so he would
do more damage as governor than Bennett.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
So you're going to have Wiser frozen out.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
With Bennett elected, You're going to have all sorts of
chaos in the Democratic Party in a chance, a real
chance to win that seat four years. So anyway, just
wanted to start with them Michael Bennett thing because right
now he is on track to be their nominee and
he is on track to be the next governor. Doesn't
mean we should quit or give up on the race
or anything like that, not at all. But again that
(08:14):
the name of this show should be brutal honesty. I mean,
that is what we pride ourselves on, just the relentless
search for the truth. Is there is a great text here,
Ryan and I want to tee it up and then
get to it after the break and then start our
conversation about the debate and get you know, calls and
text on that.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
It says, Dan, you have said.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Numerous times, numerous times that you are waiting to see
which and that just flipped off, waiting to see which
Republican candidates the liberal media decides to support to make
sure the weakest candidate wins the primary. Thus far, it
is not a peer that they have selected Victor Marx.
Is it too early to tell who they have selected?
(08:58):
It appears to me that they are doing all they
can and to criticize mister Marx as much as possible.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
What does this tell you?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
That is a brilliant text that is a profound question,
and I think the answer to it is critical.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
And when we come back, I add one thing to it.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I've been talking a lot on air about the fact
I expect the left, and of course that includes their
media arm but the left to come in with enormous
money as they always do, and play in the GOP primary,
to try to get the weakest candidate elected as our
nominee and then use it to win down ballot races.
Because they already believe they have the governor's race sewn up,
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they want to get the weakest candidate as our nominees
so they can win more down ballot races than they
normally would. That's their play. And so what a great
question is to Hey, the fact they haven't backed Victor
Marx at this point, does that indicate they're afraid them?
Great question.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Wow, what an amazing moment we live in. I mean,
you've got Victor Marx and I think many believe I
do that he's the front runner.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Right now, who is beloved.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
And admired by many, and many who have shown that
through their contributions because of this claim to have conducted
these missions all over the world to rescue women and children,
and anybody who would do that is heroic and deserves
tremendous public acclaim and support. And then you've got others
who say, total fraud, total fraud, it's untrue, it's a scam,
(10:38):
it's a con. So now we're sitting here in this
election cycle just weeks away, draw ballots drop in a
few days where people have to decide, you know, is
Victor Marx the most interesting man in the world, one
of the people most deserving of admiration and respect, or
is he what his opponents say that this is amazing.
(10:58):
I've never seen anything polarized like this in Colorado before
because there's no middle ground, right unless I'm missing something. Analytically,
there's no middle ground. It's one or the other. And
that is my obligation to you. That's what I'm working
very hard to do right now, is just be completely
factual and analytical and objective about this.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
And one of the many reasons I've driven to do.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
That is because this is against a backdrop of the
Democrats in Colorado at this point supporting truly evil things
not everything they support as evil, but truly evil things.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
And so it's so very.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Important that the GOP get it right and the GOP
be as united as possible. So that's why I bend
over backwards, not to further division in the GOP, but
to be as objective and fair as possible, because the
alternative is to elect people who will do a lot
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of evil things. Not everything do is evil, but a
lot of evil things. The alternative is that bad. So
that's the moment we're in right now, which is it's
it's either this swashbuckling, heroic, courageous figure who has done
these remarkable things to help the people most in need,
(12:19):
or it's what the opponents say, which is it. That's
what voters will have to decide. Three all three he
seven one three eight two five five d an five
seven seven three nine. Everybody understands. I'm sure Victor does.
He's a very smart man. Everybody understands that if he
is the nominee, the answer to that will be made
clear because the Democrats will be infinitely I'm talking about,
(12:41):
without any exaggeration, one million times more thorough and funded
and ruthless in the investigation of Victor Marx. I sit
back here right now, and it's remarkable to me that
no other Republican.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Who has been in this governor's race, you.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Know, has has executed the kind of investigation, the kind
of spots, the kind of attacks that you would expect
from them if Victor Marx is what his critics say.
And listen, I told Bob Kirkmeyer this yesterday. I thought,
you know, whether or not someone agrees with the substance
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of what she said, I thought that she was absolutely
brilliant and articulate and fearless in the way that she
called Victor Marx out on stage two his face. So
whether you believe what she was saying is accurate or not,
we have rarely seen an elected official in Colorado be
(13:44):
able to deliver face to face, no keyboard warrior, but
face to face that kind of attack on an opponent,
and do it in such an articulate kind of way.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
And I think she did.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Whether you agree with the substance or not, she deserves
credit for that fearlessness and the ability to stand up
there and do it. But then the question I have is,
and Barbara and I talked a little bit about this yesterday. Incidentally,
when we were talking about, you know, funding for a
campaign is is if what she is saying is true.
(14:18):
And there are a lot of really smart people who
I admire greatly who believe it is true. But then
why haven't the candidates carried that message to the public.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
So the airways, because guess what that debate the other night, which.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Was one of the most remarkable things any of us
have ever seen, and the Kyle Clark interview with Victor Marx.
You know, only a relative handful of people are going
to see that unless the campaigns have the money to
go out and cut that up and put it on TV.
And you can be sure the Democrats will. So that's
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the moment we live in. If he is the nominee,
the truth will be known by the end of the
general because the Democrats have unlimited resources and the motivation
and the ruthlessness. Will the GOP candidates for governor get
it out there? That's another remarkable thing, Ryan about this
whole scenario.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
You've got a lot of really prominent.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
People in talk radio who have hard earned credibility. You know,
whether you're talking about Mandy Connell, Michael Brown, you Sheriff Reems,
you know, you've got people who have earned tremendous credibility
out there, who are are you know, in full blast
(15:37):
mode on Victor Marx because they believe he's a con
and they're laying out their case. Where the hell are
the campaigns that? That's my point is is I've never
seen this kind of disconnect before where you've got these
prominent media people out there saying, hey, everybody, you got
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to pay attention, here's what you got with the candidate,
but then you don't have either of the campaigns on
air with it.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I've never seen that before.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
The witch campaigns, the GOP primary candidate, the opponents, the
opponents running ads. Yeah, I'm talking about running ads because
how many people are going to vote between Independence and Republicans.
You're probably I'm guessing you're gonna have what six hundred
and fifty thousand to a million vote in the GOP primary.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
You think that many will vote in the primary.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Maybe it's less, but what percentage of those will have
seen the debate or the Kyle Clark interview.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
So I'm not sitting here declaring Victor Marx to be
a fraud. That's not the point, you know, I'm trying
to be Switzerland done this and just get all the
facts out in a fair and balanced analysis and articulate
what both sides are arguing.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
But how do you have a scenario like this.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Where highly respected you know, folks in the media have
him on blast, and we don't have a single TV
spot from either campaign carrying that message to the broader electric.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
And further that point, Dan, we haven't seen I haven't
seen any TV spot from either of the candidates that
you mentioned.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Kurt Meyer Bottoms, I have seen.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I've been alerted to Victor Marx television spots on Fox News.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yes, so much I know about.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
So that's the remarkable thing to me. I've never seen
a moment like this. And again, and we'll break down
the debate itself in more detail, Dan says, a Texter,
do you hear yourself? What you're saying is so transparently
pro Marx? Why would you say that? Why would you
believe that? I've just laid out the wait. He's one
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of two things. He is either one of the most
interesting men in the world who deserves great admiration for
executing these hundred missions. I just played the sound that
he claimed to have executed to save people or is
it con right? Is there any middle ground? How is
that pro Marx? It doesn't sound pro Marx to me.
(18:04):
But happy to have that conversation with anybody. I'm just
wondering where are the campaigns on this and is that
going to change before election day?
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Remarkable, remarkable moment. Hey, we'll come back to the phone lines.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
More of these text.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
But listen, when it comes to this campaign, I haven't
endorsed anybody. I'm not going to endorse anybody. I want
to be the honest, objective analyt.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Thank you for that.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
And there are some Texters who agree with you, and
they are not pleased at all. Dan, Do you hear
yourself What you're saying is so transparently pro mark Stan
Are you relying on Marx's internal polling and calling him
the front runner? And then I'll get to the rest
of that text and some similar text there.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
No Listen, anybody.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Who's heard me on air over the past thirty thirty one,
twenty nine whatever it is years, knows that I'm fearless
and I have been every minute on air for all
of those years. And I can give you example after
example where I have taken on the biggest powers out there,
the most dangerous people out there, and I have been
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fearless about telling the truth about them on air, and
my family and I have paid an enormous price for
that in ways that very few people know outside of
law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Very few people know.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
And it goes light years beyond threats, light years beyond threats.
So I have prided myself on that, and I will
never give that up because I will die content knowing
that when I had the privilege of this microphone, I
was fearless, no matter what the consequence is. And so
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when it comes to Victor Marx, my approach is dictated
by this. We're talking about the GOP versus a Democratic
party that is engaged in an absolutely wicked behavior, evil behavior.
Not everything the Democrats do as wicked or evil, but
lots of it.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Is that's the.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Alternative right now between the Republican no matter how flawed
and wickedness and evil in some very important ways on
the other side, and for the Republican Party to have
a chance that there has to be some relative unity.
So I don't want to use this radio show to
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further division in the GOP. Listen, I understand there's already
division in the GOP. Bard made a great point of
that the other night. But me and my own way,
I don't want to unnecessarily further division. So my approach
to this primary, like almost every other I've had in
thirty years on air, approach to this primary is get
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the facts out there fearlessly, no matter where they fall,
offer smart beyond the obvious analysis, and then let the
voters decide. Now, part of that is the hope that
that will mean that all of the candidates will feel
comfortable coming on the show, and then people will have
the benefit of that, and I'll have the benefit of
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being able to ask them the questions that people have.
And I have a number of texts here saying, hey, Dan,
as Victor Marx agreed to come back on your show.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
No, in this.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Case, that approach that I've just described is not working.
When it comes to Victor Marx, He's not coming on.
He was on before, he was on twice. He could
not have been treated better by me, and I thoroughly
enjoyed my time with him, But he ain't coming back.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
That that's pretty clear.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Right when you invite him on following the debate and you.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Get a note back saying we're going to pass. Listen.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I've been in this business a long time. That means
they're not coming back. And that may be a very
smart move on their part.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Because.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
As respectful and nice as I am, I will ask
the important questions. And so if you have a candidate
or a campaign, be it a lefty or a conservative,
who doesn't want to answer those important questions, they're smart
not to come here if.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I may with one question to kind of thread the
needle here on everything you've spoken about here today. We
played a clip earlier in which Senator Michael Bennett refused
to condemn or criticize Graham plantn Or, a Democrat running
for Senate and Maine against Susan Collins. He's had a
lot of controversies come up. What would it take for
you as a talk show host? I can grant it's
a different position than Senator Bennett, who's unning for governor
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in Colorado as a Democrat. What would it take for
you to similarly criticize a Victor Marx the way that
maybe we are expecting Senator Bennett would criticize a Grand Plantner.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Well, I already am. I already am.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
That's the point is, just like with Trump, I will
speak the truth whatever it is. I mean, the reason
I get all these texts saying, hey, you know you're
so pro Victor Marx is I will say positive things
about him when they're true. But I've been talking for
(23:23):
a long time on air about the allegations against Victor Marx,
about how they come from very credible, researched people, how
they raise very fair questions, the response of the Marx
camp to those allegations. I mean, I just talked in
the last thirty seconds Ryan about the fact that they're
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ducking me.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Now I don't like that. I don't like that at all.
So no, my goal is to just speak the truth
about all of them.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
You ask a fair question about Okay, what about a conclusion,
right because they were asking Michael Bennett for a concludellusion
on this guy Platner. Does he meet the standard you
know when it comes to a Victor Marx. And this
key question that I set up earlier about which is
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he is he this heroic, courageous figure who has bravely
gone behind enemy lines to rescue women and children around
the world, or is he a con man? I don't
think from what I can see, there's any middle ground,
which is he believe me, Ryan, if I was sitting
here right now, able to reach the kind of conclusion,
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with the kind of certainty and evidence that will allow
me to stand before a jury and say this man
is the courageous, heroic figure who goes behind enemy lines
to rescue women and children, or stand in front of
a jury and say this man is a con He's
lied about all that to raise money from gullible people,
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well intentioned people. If I had the evidence necessary to
reach that conclusion and stand in front of a jury
and stated.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
I would do that, why wouldn't I? I would do that?
Speaker 1 (25:13):
But I'm not there. I understand the concerns. I don't
believe Victor Marx has met those concerns. I don't believe
he's answered the questions at this point. But part of
it also is part of it also is my day job.
(25:34):
I mean, when you're looking at profound questions like this, Ryan, right,
because we're not talking about policy differences here or anything else.
I mean, we got that whole separate category to address.
We're talking about whether an individual a real person who
stood on stage with the dog the other night, Victor Marx.
Whether that man is a hero or a con man,
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whether he's deserving of tremendous admiration and the governor's office,
or whether he's despicable. That's what we're talking about here,
and I personally do not feel comfortable reaching that conclusion
at this point with the evidence in front of me.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Now, does it.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Work against Victor that he won't even state at this
point how many people he's rescued, Sure it does, or killed?
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Sure it does.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
He won't say how many people he's killed as an adult.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Just all that work against him, Sure it does.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
But when we're talking about concluding that somebody is a despicable.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Con man who has built people of.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Faith out of millions across Colorado and America, I don't
have the evidence in front of me that would allow me,
in good conscience to reach that conclusion.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
And tell you again, part of it may be what
I do fifteen.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Hours a day most days, day in and day out,
which is I have subpoena power.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
In my cases.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
I can put people on or oath, I can subpoena documents,
and I can drill down to the truth and if
you give me subpoena power in this case, I will
drill down to the truth and then I can look
everybody in the eye and say, Okay, bottom line, there's
no doubt here.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
It is. But I don't have that power here.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
So anyway, that's just explaining why I don't feel comfortable
at this point looking.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
You in the eye and declaring this man to.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Be a despicable fraud who has conned people of faith
and goodwill all over America because that Am I missing something?
Or you tell me when we come back, and I'll
get to our fiery lines in our text, but you
tell me analytically, logically, and I'll start with Ryan when
we come back. If is there a middle ground? Because
(27:52):
I don't see one. I think it's one or the other.
He's either one of the most courageous, heroic, noble admiralb
people we've seen on the public stage, or he's a
despicable Cohn who has built you know, people of faith
out of their hard earned money. Is there a middle ground?
(28:14):
Am I missing something there? You're on the Dan Kapla.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
Show and now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast development.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Sarah, I want to go to the VIP line.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Well, welcome one of the most powerful forces in Colorado
right now. That's Lindsay Detco, who is with jeff Co
Kids First and has done amazing grassroots work and is
also a regular host on this show. Lindsey, can you
update us on the latest with DOJ and Jefferson County?
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Yeah, so last soon again, just quick recap, the Department
of Ed and announced an investigation into Jetco for their
overnight travel, their bathrooms, and their locker rooms and in
addition found up to sixty one mails potentially playing on
growth sports teams. The investigation was inspired by Alliance Defending
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Freedom and our reports which really worked together perfectly.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
This March, the Department.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
Of Ed concluded they were in violation not hard to
see of Title nine. They called it sweeping violations. And
then just recently yesterday jeff Co received a warning letter
and the Department of Ed told them that they would
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have to comply within ten days or they were going
to be seeking enforcement. So that was actually a really
good thing to see. Brings us a lot of relief
because sometimes we see these things fall through the crodics
and so we're really happy to see this warning letter.
This next step taken, and we're really hopeful that there's
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going to be enforcement.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Now, Lindsey, the article I read said Jeff Co is
denying that sixty males were playing in girls' sports. Do
you know anything about the basis for that denial?
Speaker 6 (30:08):
Yeah, they it's they definitely are denying that that's occurring
at that number, and it's because I think students are
able to self identify themselves, and so they're they're using
that kind of ambiguity.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Well, are you saying that jef Co's saying, well, wait
a second, there aren't males playing girls' sports because these
people with penises say they're a female.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Is that their argument?
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (30:37):
Basically, I mean, oh, miss, it's not surprising, I guess.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Oh man, Well, yeah, I hope they get that in
front of a jury, make quick work of that.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
But yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
But you know, Dan, honestly, they looked it up. Fifty
million dollars in federal funding last year and they're facing
a seventy million dollars. They are playing with some fire
here they cannot afford and a dollar.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
And the question would be why why is it so
important to them that males be able to go into girls'
bathrooms and showers. Why is it so important to them
that males be able to take.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Over girls' sports. It's almost too much for the human mind.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
To comprehend it, sure is, and they are not reading
the room and realizing this is a ninety ten issue.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Yeah, oh yeah, and who are the ten? But yeah, Lindsey,
how do people follow you? I know that you are
a wealth of information on your site in social media.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
Yeah, you can contact us for our website Jacko kids
First dot com. We've got Harmeat Dylan, the head of
the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice, coming
to our.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Gay line in August.
Speaker 6 (31:45):
We'd love to have you join us. Join our Facebook
group of ten thousands Jesso kidds first. It's intense, but
we unfold every detail every day.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Well, keep up the great work. Really appreciated. Thank you
so much, Dan, Thank you take care. He is a
force for good.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Let's go to Steve in Beautiful Centennial. Then we'll get
to our red hot text.
Speaker 7 (32:06):
Steve.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
What are you thinking?
Speaker 7 (32:09):
Well, you mean Pete.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Well, I'd happy to call you Pete. Yeah, sorry, my friend,
we got that wrong.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Sorry about that.
Speaker 7 (32:17):
Yeah, that's okay. Hey, Dan, you post the question, well
that you know we're looking at is he a con man?
Or is he this great hero? You only talked about
one side of the coin of what you're not able
to prove the other side of the coin, obviously, is
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what proof? What can you prove very reputably and unquestionably
that he has has done to earn these accolades that
he promotes before all of us people out here wanting
to believe in him. But everything that like Ryan in
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the Morning, everything that he's drilled down on it leaves it.
You know, the credibility of all of his stories are.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Fall into question.
Speaker 7 (33:18):
So can what can you present? What can he present
that is irrefutable, irrefutably true that elevates him to the
stature that he wants us all to accept him?
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yeah, you know, I love I would love for Victor
Mark's story to be true because if it's true, we
need more people like that.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
I would love for that to be true.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
And listen, if it is true, that does that mean
he's the best person to be governor? You know, that's
a separate question worth having. But I would love for
his story to be true. And where we're at right
now is some very credible. People have raised some very
very serious questions about the story. And then we get
to your question, which is what has Victor Marx done
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to prove that the story's true? And at this point,
I think probably in a general election, the vast majority
of voters would say, based on what Victor is offered
up so far, I think the vast majority of voters
would say, I'm not able to conclude that's true. Now,
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that doesn't mean it's false, and that doesn't mean he
won't offer more in the future. But I think that's
where the vast majority of voters would end up in
a general.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
I haven't had a chance to ask you this, Dan,
as a Catholic, though one minute to go here, how
do you feel about his claims that he can channel
the powers of Jesus, summon angels to cast out demons,
and do these retooling prayers.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
And you want me to do that in thirty five seconds?
Just in general? How do you feel about that?
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (34:57):
My goodness, how does that grab you?
Speaker 7 (35:01):
To me?
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Well, there, it's a good question that the first issue
is how does it grab you on the kind of
theological exactly? And then the second question is how does
it grab you in the context of a political campaign.
I'm stalling so I can get the break to think
about it. Do you think that's obvious enough?
Speaker 7 (35:23):
Fair?
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Okay, yeah, So I will stall a few more seconds,
get the break to think about Ryan's good question, and we'll.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Tackle that when we come back.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Three or three seven, three eight two five five five
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start right now three or three seven one three eight
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two five five d an five seven seven three nine.
I've been an era about thirty years. I can't remember
a more crazy interesting time than the one we're in
right now. And yeah, a lot of stuff around the
world in America, but this whole GOP primary in Colorado
and then the general behind it and the state of
both parties right now, it's just absolutely amazing.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
And it was funny.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Our daughter Caroline asked me last night, how was the debate?
And I said, I haven't had that much fun in
a very long time. I mean, she said, well, let's
go watch it again. It was just it was just
like a Saturday Night Live skit. I mean, now we're
long Saturday n Light Live skit. I did not want
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it to end.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
And one of the enduring mysteries is the dog is
the dog?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
How did Reagan the dog and beautiful dog, incredibly well behaved,
really sweet. How did he get on the stage? I mean,
talk about a cushy thank you? How about a I
don't think that was reported in the broadcast. How did
you learn that, my friend? I have my sources, Yeah,
but you know, and hey, what a coup by Victor
Martz to get that dog on the stage.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
And I still would love to know how that happened.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
But anyway, we got all that to talk about. Ryan
and I have not done a show together for the longest.
It was the longest stretch I've ever been off air
while we were on just a phenomenal family trip and
culminating with our son graduating from law school. And I
think yesterday all these superstars he can't call him fill
in hosts. They're superstars and you know, life in their
(01:54):
own areas, who were kind enough to do shows while
I was gone. But we want to dive even deep
or into the debate. And there are some new developments
on the post debate front, including the Daily Show taking
on the debate, and so that's kind of fun. So
we'll do all that. I've got some insights. I don't
think you here anywhere else, whether you agree with them
(02:14):
or not. About the debate and where things stand and
what happens moving forward. There's some really interesting Michael Bennetts
sound that I want.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
To get to.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
In fact, I will ride out of the gates, so
I don't forget because it'll make you laugh and we
all need to laugh more.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
It will also, I think you make.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
You more encouraged about the future of the GOP in Colorado.
And I understand why you may have doubts about that
right now, because we just had a debate where two
of the three candidates said they won't support the purported
front runner if he's the nominee. So at that point
that guarantees defeat. Now everybody's assuming the GOP candidate will
lose the general anyway, but at that point, it just
(02:52):
guarantees defeat because just the math, I mean, the GOP candidate,
whoever she or he is, you can out win without
a fairly unite Republican party.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
So yeah, so much to talk about.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
There other things in the world we need to get to, certainly,
but let me open with this with this Michael benneclipp
because it ties into the political scene in Colorado obviously,
but this is Bennett on CNN and this is today,
I believe this is today or last night.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
And you'll listen to this answer, and it will just prove.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Why he is absolutely not qualified to be governor of
the state of Colorado. And it will show you confirm
why he was just a stunningly ineffective US senator. And
he's being asked by Friendly CNN. He's being asked about,
you know, their dogg and Trump for this or that,
(03:47):
and then he's asked about Graham Plattner. You know, this
Democrat sent a candidate in Maine who the Democrats have
rallied behind. They think they can knock off Susan Collins.
And I won't go through the laundry list. I'm sure
you know the story. But this guy, you know again,
it's like a Saturday night leafskin hate come up with
the come up with a candidate who is sure to
lose in Maine, and they find Graham Plattner, Nazi Tantu.
(04:11):
You know, he's got all of this sextem with women
while he's married. He has all sorts of issues. And
so Michael Bennett is asked about him on Friendly CNN,
and listen to the response, which I just think is disqualifying.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I mean, you obviously don't think the president meets that
high standard that you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Does Graham Plattner meet that high standard in your view?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Well, I definitely don't think the president meets that standard.
He's proven since the day that he was elected to
office that he I think grand I think that's a
fair question. That is what the election in Maine is
going to partly be about, and he's going to have
to withstand the scrutiny of the people of Maine. That's
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what our elections.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Are all about.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
What's your view, I'm busy running for governor of Colorado.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
When was the castration? Was it public?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Because these these senators they have to release medical records?
Right when was the castration?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
But the reason I played that to start the show
is we're talking a lot about the state of the
GOP right now, right, you know, and the Democrats are
going to win a bunch of stuff coming up here
that I think the GOP has a real shot at
the AG's race, and I would not write off the
governor's race depending on how things break.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
But here's the point.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
The Democrats have a whole lot of trouble themselves. And
that's a good starting point because that that truly is
is somebody who should not be in any elective office,
let alone a US Senator position, unwilling to take a
position one way or the other on that.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
And so that's some of the good news out there.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
And my quick point on that before we get on
to the rest of this, tying to the debate, is
that if you want Republicans to start winning statewide again,
if you want Republicans to start you gaining in these
local races, it's very important that if the next Democrat
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is Goot, the next governor of Colorado's going to be
a Democrat, very important that it be Michael Bennett, very
very important that it be Michael Bennett.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
The guy is a zero.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
He's a completely empty suit. And so if we have
to have I hope we don't, but if we have
to have a Democrat governor, you want it to be
Michael Bennett because at that point he's beatable in four years.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
At that point you know.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
That he's going to be, as he was in the
US Senate, completely ineffective, and he will be beatable in
four years.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Why is there any reason.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
To think that a guy who was so ineffective in
the US Senate and you just heard you know him
expose himself on CNN. What reason would there be to
think that's going to change when he's governor. He will
fail as governor. Unfortunately, that's bad for the state. I
don't want anything bad to happen in the state. I'm
just talking about reality. He will fail as governor and
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he will be beatable in four years. But in the meantime,
there will be great dissension within the Democratic Party because
you will have another unaccomplished, old white guy get a
top job, and you're going to have a lot of
resentment in the Democratic Party. You're going to have rebellion
over that. You're going to have Wiser and listen, Wiser
(07:37):
would be far worse for the state as governor because
while he and Bennett are equally far left, Wiser would
be much more effective as governor, and so he would
do more damage as governor than Bennett.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
So you're going to have Wiser frozen out.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
With Bennett elected, You're going to have all sorts of
chaos in the Democratic Party in a chance, a real
chance to win that seat four years. So anyway, just
wanted to start with them Michael Bennett thing because right
now he is on track to be their nominee and
he is on track to be the next governor. Doesn't
mean we should quit or give up on the race
or anything like that, not at all. But again that
(08:14):
the name of this show should be brutal honesty. I mean,
that is what we pride ourselves on, just the relentless
search for the truth. Is there is a great text here,
Ryan and I want to tee it up and then
get to it after the break and then start our
conversation about the debate and get you know, calls and
text on that.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
It says, Dan, you have said.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Numerous times, numerous times that you are waiting to see
which and that just flipped off, waiting to see which
Republican candidates the liberal media decides to support to make
sure the weakest candidate wins the primary. Thus far, it
is not a peer that they have selected Victor Marx.
Is it too early to tell who they have selected?
(08:58):
It appears to me that they are doing all they
can and to criticize mister Marx as much as possible.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
What does this tell you?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
That is a brilliant text that is a profound question,
and I think the answer to it is critical.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
And when we come back, I add one thing to it.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I've been talking a lot on air about the fact
I expect the left, and of course that includes their
media arm but the left to come in with enormous
money as they always do, and play in the GOP primary,
to try to get the weakest candidate elected as our
nominee and then use it to win down ballot races.
Because they already believe they have the governor's race sewn up,
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they want to get the weakest candidate as our nominees
so they can win more down ballot races than they
normally would. That's their play. And so what a great
question is to Hey, the fact they haven't backed Victor
Marx at this point, does that indicate they're afraid them?
Great question.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Wow, what an amazing moment we live in. I mean,
you've got Victor Marx and I think many believe I
do that he's the front runner.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Right now, who is beloved.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
And admired by many, and many who have shown that
through their contributions because of this claim to have conducted
these missions all over the world to rescue women and children,
and anybody who would do that is heroic and deserves
tremendous public acclaim and support. And then you've got others
who say, total fraud, total fraud, it's untrue, it's a scam,
(10:38):
it's a con. So now we're sitting here in this
election cycle just weeks away, draw ballots drop in a
few days where people have to decide, you know, is
Victor Marx the most interesting man in the world, one
of the people most deserving of admiration and respect, or
is he what his opponents say that this is amazing.
(10:58):
I've never seen anything polarized like this in Colorado before
because there's no middle ground, right unless I'm missing something. Analytically,
there's no middle ground. It's one or the other. And
that is my obligation to you. That's what I'm working
very hard to do right now, is just be completely
factual and analytical and objective about this.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
And one of the many reasons I've driven to do.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
That is because this is against a backdrop of the
Democrats in Colorado at this point supporting truly evil things
not everything they support as evil, but truly evil things.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
And so it's so very.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Important that the GOP get it right and the GOP
be as united as possible. So that's why I bend
over backwards, not to further division in the GOP, but
to be as objective and fair as possible, because the
alternative is to elect people who will do a lot
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of evil things. Not everything do is evil, but a
lot of evil things. The alternative is that bad. So
that's the moment we're in right now, which is it's
it's either this swashbuckling, heroic, courageous figure who has done
these remarkable things to help the people most in need,
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or it's what the opponents say, which is it. That's
what voters will have to decide. Three all three he
seven one three eight two five five d an five
seven seven three nine. Everybody understands. I'm sure Victor does.
He's a very smart man. Everybody understands that if he
is the nominee, the answer to that will be made
clear because the Democrats will be infinitely I'm talking about,
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without any exaggeration, one million times more thorough and funded
and ruthless in the investigation of Victor Marx. I sit
back here right now, and it's remarkable to me that
no other Republican.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Who has been in this governor's race, you.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Know, has has executed the kind of investigation, the kind
of spots, the kind of attacks that you would expect
from them if Victor Marx is what his critics say.
And listen, I told Bob Kirkmeyer this yesterday. I thought,
you know, whether or not someone agrees with the substance
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of what she said, I thought that she was absolutely
brilliant and articulate and fearless in the way that she
called Victor Marx out on stage two his face. So
whether you believe what she was saying is accurate or not,
we have rarely seen an elected official in Colorado be
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able to deliver face to face, no keyboard warrior, but
face to face that kind of attack on an opponent,
and do it in such an articulate kind of way.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
And I think she did.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Whether you agree with the substance or not, she deserves
credit for that fearlessness and the ability to stand up
there and do it. But then the question I have is,
and Barbara and I talked a little bit about this yesterday. Incidentally,
when we were talking about, you know, funding for a
campaign is is if what she is saying is true.
(14:18):
And there are a lot of really smart people who
I admire greatly who believe it is true. But then
why haven't the candidates carried that message to the public.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
So the airways, because guess what that debate the other night, which.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Was one of the most remarkable things any of us
have ever seen, and the Kyle Clark interview with Victor Marx.
You know, only a relative handful of people are going
to see that unless the campaigns have the money to
go out and cut that up and put it on TV.
And you can be sure the Democrats will. So that's
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the moment we live in. If he is the nominee,
the truth will be known by the end of the
general because the Democrats have unlimited resources and the motivation
and the ruthlessness. Will the GOP candidates for governor get
it out there? That's another remarkable thing, Ryan about this
whole scenario.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
You've got a lot of really prominent.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
People in talk radio who have hard earned credibility. You know,
whether you're talking about Mandy Connell, Michael Brown, you Sheriff Reems,
you know, you've got people who have earned tremendous credibility
out there, who are are you know, in full blast
(15:37):
mode on Victor Marx because they believe he's a con
and they're laying out their case. Where the hell are
the campaigns that? That's my point is is I've never
seen this kind of disconnect before where you've got these
prominent media people out there saying, hey, everybody, you got
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to pay attention, here's what you got with the candidate,
but then you don't have either of the campaigns on
air with it.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I've never seen that before.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
The witch campaigns, the GOP primary candidate, the opponents, the
opponents running ads. Yeah, I'm talking about running ads because
how many people are going to vote between Independence and Republicans.
You're probably I'm guessing you're gonna have what six hundred
and fifty thousand to a million vote in the GOP primary.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
You think that many will vote in the primary.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Maybe it's less, but what percentage of those will have
seen the debate or the Kyle Clark interview.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
So I'm not sitting here declaring Victor Marx to be
a fraud. That's not the point, you know, I'm trying
to be Switzerland done this and just get all the
facts out in a fair and balanced analysis and articulate
what both sides are arguing.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
But how do you have a scenario like this.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Where highly respected you know, folks in the media have
him on blast, and we don't have a single TV
spot from either campaign carrying that message to the broader electric.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
And further that point, Dan, we haven't seen I haven't
seen any TV spot from either of the candidates that
you mentioned.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Kurt Meyer Bottoms, I have seen.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I've been alerted to Victor Marx television spots on Fox News.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yes, so much I know about.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
So that's the remarkable thing to me. I've never seen
a moment like this. And again, and we'll break down
the debate itself in more detail, Dan says, a Texter,
do you hear yourself? What you're saying is so transparently
pro Marx? Why would you say that? Why would you
believe that? I've just laid out the wait. He's one
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of two things. He is either one of the most
interesting men in the world who deserves great admiration for
executing these hundred missions. I just played the sound that
he claimed to have executed to save people or is
it con right? Is there any middle ground? How is
that pro Marx? It doesn't sound pro Marx to me.
(18:04):
But happy to have that conversation with anybody. I'm just
wondering where are the campaigns on this and is that
going to change before election day?
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Remarkable, remarkable moment. Hey, we'll come back to the phone lines.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
More of these text.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
But listen, when it comes to this campaign, I haven't
endorsed anybody. I'm not going to endorse anybody. I want
to be the honest, objective analyt.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Thank you for that.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
And there are some Texters who agree with you, and
they are not pleased at all. Dan, Do you hear
yourself What you're saying is so transparently pro mark Stan
Are you relying on Marx's internal polling and calling him
the front runner? And then I'll get to the rest
of that text and some similar text there.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
No Listen, anybody.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Who's heard me on air over the past thirty thirty one,
twenty nine whatever it is years, knows that I'm fearless
and I have been every minute on air for all
of those years. And I can give you example after
example where I have taken on the biggest powers out there,
the most dangerous people out there, and I have been
(19:23):
fearless about telling the truth about them on air, and
my family and I have paid an enormous price for
that in ways that very few people know outside of
law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Very few people know.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
And it goes light years beyond threats, light years beyond threats.
So I have prided myself on that, and I will
never give that up because I will die content knowing
that when I had the privilege of this microphone, I
was fearless, no matter what the consequence is. And so
(19:57):
when it comes to Victor Marx, my approach is dictated
by this. We're talking about the GOP versus a Democratic
party that is engaged in an absolutely wicked behavior, evil behavior.
Not everything the Democrats do as wicked or evil, but
lots of it.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Is that's the.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Alternative right now between the Republican no matter how flawed
and wickedness and evil in some very important ways on
the other side, and for the Republican Party to have
a chance that there has to be some relative unity.
So I don't want to use this radio show to
(20:39):
further division in the GOP. Listen, I understand there's already
division in the GOP. Bard made a great point of
that the other night. But me and my own way,
I don't want to unnecessarily further division. So my approach
to this primary, like almost every other I've had in
thirty years on air, approach to this primary is get
(21:03):
the facts out there fearlessly, no matter where they fall,
offer smart beyond the obvious analysis, and then let the
voters decide. Now, part of that is the hope that
that will mean that all of the candidates will feel
comfortable coming on the show, and then people will have
the benefit of that, and I'll have the benefit of
(21:25):
being able to ask them the questions that people have.
And I have a number of texts here saying, hey, Dan,
as Victor Marx agreed to come back on your show.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
No, in this.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Case, that approach that I've just described is not working.
When it comes to Victor Marx, He's not coming on.
He was on before, he was on twice. He could
not have been treated better by me, and I thoroughly
enjoyed my time with him, But he ain't coming back.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
That that's pretty clear.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Right when you invite him on following the debate and you.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Get a note back saying we're going to pass. Listen.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I've been in this business a long time. That means
they're not coming back. And that may be a very
smart move on their part.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Because.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
As respectful and nice as I am, I will ask
the important questions. And so if you have a candidate
or a campaign, be it a lefty or a conservative,
who doesn't want to answer those important questions, they're smart
not to come here if.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I may with one question to kind of thread the
needle here on everything you've spoken about here today. We
played a clip earlier in which Senator Michael Bennett refused
to condemn or criticize Graham plantn Or, a Democrat running
for Senate and Maine against Susan Collins. He's had a
lot of controversies come up. What would it take for
you as a talk show host? I can grant it's
a different position than Senator Bennett, who's unning for governor
(22:50):
in Colorado as a Democrat. What would it take for
you to similarly criticize a Victor Marx the way that
maybe we are expecting Senator Bennett would criticize a Grand Plantner.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Well, I already am. I already am.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
That's the point is, just like with Trump, I will
speak the truth whatever it is. I mean, the reason
I get all these texts saying, hey, you know you're
so pro Victor Marx is I will say positive things
about him when they're true. But I've been talking for
(23:23):
a long time on air about the allegations against Victor Marx,
about how they come from very credible, researched people, how
they raise very fair questions, the response of the Marx
camp to those allegations. I mean, I just talked in
the last thirty seconds Ryan about the fact that they're
(23:45):
ducking me.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Now I don't like that. I don't like that at all.
So no, my goal is to just speak the truth
about all of them.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
You ask a fair question about Okay, what about a conclusion,
right because they were asking Michael Bennett for a concludellusion
on this guy Platner. Does he meet the standard you
know when it comes to a Victor Marx. And this
key question that I set up earlier about which is
(24:12):
he is he this heroic, courageous figure who has bravely
gone behind enemy lines to rescue women and children around
the world, or is he a con man? I don't
think from what I can see, there's any middle ground,
which is he believe me, Ryan, if I was sitting
here right now, able to reach the kind of conclusion,
(24:36):
with the kind of certainty and evidence that will allow
me to stand before a jury and say this man
is the courageous, heroic figure who goes behind enemy lines
to rescue women and children, or stand in front of
a jury and say this man is a con He's
lied about all that to raise money from gullible people,
(24:58):
well intentioned people. If I had the evidence necessary to
reach that conclusion and stand in front of a jury
and stated.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
I would do that, why wouldn't I? I would do that?
Speaker 1 (25:13):
But I'm not there. I understand the concerns. I don't
believe Victor Marx has met those concerns. I don't believe
he's answered the questions at this point. But part of
it also is part of it also is my day job.
(25:34):
I mean, when you're looking at profound questions like this, Ryan, right,
because we're not talking about policy differences here or anything else.
I mean, we got that whole separate category to address.
We're talking about whether an individual a real person who
stood on stage with the dog the other night, Victor Marx.
Whether that man is a hero or a con man,
(25:56):
whether he's deserving of tremendous admiration and the governor's office,
or whether he's despicable. That's what we're talking about here,
and I personally do not feel comfortable reaching that conclusion
at this point with the evidence in front of me.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Now, does it.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Work against Victor that he won't even state at this
point how many people he's rescued, Sure it does, or killed?
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Sure it does.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
He won't say how many people he's killed as an adult.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Just all that work against him, Sure it does.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
But when we're talking about concluding that somebody is a despicable.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Con man who has built people of.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Faith out of millions across Colorado and America, I don't
have the evidence in front of me that would allow me,
in good conscience to reach that conclusion.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
And tell you again, part of it may be what
I do fifteen.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Hours a day most days, day in and day out,
which is I have subpoena power.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
In my cases.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
I can put people on or oath, I can subpoena documents,
and I can drill down to the truth and if
you give me subpoena power in this case, I will
drill down to the truth and then I can look
everybody in the eye and say, Okay, bottom line, there's
no doubt here.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
It is. But I don't have that power here.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
So anyway, that's just explaining why I don't feel comfortable
at this point looking.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
You in the eye and declaring this man to.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Be a despicable fraud who has conned people of faith
and goodwill all over America because that Am I missing something?
Or you tell me when we come back, and I'll
get to our fiery lines in our text, but you
tell me analytically, logically, and I'll start with Ryan when
we come back. If is there a middle ground? Because
(27:52):
I don't see one. I think it's one or the other.
He's either one of the most courageous, heroic, noble admiralb
people we've seen on the public stage, or he's a
despicable Cohn who has built you know, people of faith
out of their hard earned money. Is there a middle ground?
(28:14):
Am I missing something there? You're on the Dan Kapla.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
Show and now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast development.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Sarah, I want to go to the VIP line.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Well, welcome one of the most powerful forces in Colorado
right now. That's Lindsay Detco, who is with jeff Co
Kids First and has done amazing grassroots work and is
also a regular host on this show. Lindsey, can you
update us on the latest with DOJ and Jefferson County?
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Yeah, so last soon again, just quick recap, the Department
of Ed and announced an investigation into Jetco for their
overnight travel, their bathrooms, and their locker rooms and in
addition found up to sixty one mails potentially playing on
growth sports teams. The investigation was inspired by Alliance Defending
(29:06):
Freedom and our reports which really worked together perfectly.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
This March, the Department.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
Of Ed concluded they were in violation not hard to
see of Title nine. They called it sweeping violations. And
then just recently yesterday jeff Co received a warning letter
and the Department of Ed told them that they would
(29:33):
have to comply within ten days or they were going
to be seeking enforcement. So that was actually a really
good thing to see. Brings us a lot of relief
because sometimes we see these things fall through the crodics
and so we're really happy to see this warning letter.
This next step taken, and we're really hopeful that there's
(29:55):
going to be enforcement.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Now, Lindsey, the article I read said Jeff Co is
denying that sixty males were playing in girls' sports. Do
you know anything about the basis for that denial?
Speaker 6 (30:08):
Yeah, they it's they definitely are denying that that's occurring
at that number, and it's because I think students are
able to self identify themselves, and so they're they're using
that kind of ambiguity.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Well, are you saying that jef Co's saying, well, wait
a second, there aren't males playing girls' sports because these
people with penises say they're a female.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Is that their argument?
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (30:37):
Basically, I mean, oh, miss, it's not surprising, I guess.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Oh man, Well, yeah, I hope they get that in
front of a jury, make quick work of that.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
But yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
But you know, Dan, honestly, they looked it up. Fifty
million dollars in federal funding last year and they're facing
a seventy million dollars. They are playing with some fire
here they cannot afford and a dollar.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
And the question would be why why is it so
important to them that males be able to go into girls'
bathrooms and showers. Why is it so important to them
that males be able to take.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Over girls' sports. It's almost too much for the human mind.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
To comprehend it, sure is, and they are not reading
the room and realizing this is a ninety ten issue.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Yeah, oh yeah, and who are the ten? But yeah, Lindsey,
how do people follow you? I know that you are
a wealth of information on your site in social media.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
Yeah, you can contact us for our website Jacko kids
First dot com. We've got Harmeat Dylan, the head of
the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice, coming
to our.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Gay line in August.
Speaker 6 (31:45):
We'd love to have you join us. Join our Facebook
group of ten thousands Jesso kidds first. It's intense, but
we unfold every detail every day.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Well, keep up the great work. Really appreciated. Thank you
so much, Dan, Thank you take care. He is a
force for good.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Let's go to Steve in Beautiful Centennial. Then we'll get
to our red hot text.
Speaker 7 (32:06):
Steve.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
What are you thinking?
Speaker 7 (32:09):
Well, you mean Pete.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Well, I'd happy to call you Pete. Yeah, sorry, my friend,
we got that wrong.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Sorry about that.
Speaker 7 (32:17):
Yeah, that's okay. Hey, Dan, you post the question, well
that you know we're looking at is he a con man?
Or is he this great hero? You only talked about
one side of the coin of what you're not able
to prove the other side of the coin, obviously, is
(32:38):
what proof? What can you prove very reputably and unquestionably
that he has has done to earn these accolades that
he promotes before all of us people out here wanting
to believe in him. But everything that like Ryan in
(33:03):
the Morning, everything that he's drilled down on it leaves it.
You know, the credibility of all of his stories are.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Fall into question.
Speaker 7 (33:18):
So can what can you present? What can he present
that is irrefutable, irrefutably true that elevates him to the
stature that he wants us all to accept him?
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yeah, you know, I love I would love for Victor
Mark's story to be true because if it's true, we
need more people like that.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
I would love for that to be true.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
And listen, if it is true, that does that mean
he's the best person to be governor? You know, that's
a separate question worth having. But I would love for
his story to be true. And where we're at right
now is some very credible. People have raised some very
very serious questions about the story. And then we get
to your question, which is what has Victor Marx done
(34:11):
to prove that the story's true? And at this point,
I think probably in a general election, the vast majority
of voters would say, based on what Victor is offered
up so far, I think the vast majority of voters
would say, I'm not able to conclude that's true. Now,
(34:31):
that doesn't mean it's false, and that doesn't mean he
won't offer more in the future. But I think that's
where the vast majority of voters would end up in
a general.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
I haven't had a chance to ask you this, Dan,
as a Catholic, though one minute to go here, how
do you feel about his claims that he can channel
the powers of Jesus, summon angels to cast out demons,
and do these retooling prayers.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
And you want me to do that in thirty five seconds?
Just in general? How do you feel about that?
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (34:57):
My goodness, how does that grab you?
Speaker 7 (35:01):
To me?
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Well, there, it's a good question that the first issue
is how does it grab you on the kind of
theological exactly? And then the second question is how does
it grab you in the context of a political campaign.
I'm stalling so I can get the break to think
about it. Do you think that's obvious enough?
Speaker 7 (35:23):
Fair?
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Okay, yeah, So I will stall a few more seconds,
get the break to think about Ryan's good question, and we'll.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Tackle that when we come back.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Three or three seven, three eight two five five five
seven seven three nine in the Daily Show. Now getting
involved in the GOP primary. You're on the Dan Kaplish
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