September 2, 2026 • 34 mins
In a shocking display of lawlessness, a group of 500 teenagers took over a shopping center in Aurora, Colorado, vandalizing and looting businesses, including a King Soopers and a Burger King. This is just the latest example of the "new normal" in Colorado, where mob rule seems to be on the rise. But what's behind this trend, and what can be done to stop it?
This episode of the podcast explores the issue of mob takeovers and the lack of consequences for those involved. The speaker discusses the recent incident in Aurora, as well as a similar takeover in Denver, where a street was shut down for drag racing. The conversation also touches on the topic of lane splitting, which has been legalized in some states, including California, and the dangers it poses to drivers. The speaker argues that the left's commitment to mass killing before birth has made all human life less valuable in their eyes.
The speaker also critiques actress Anne Hathaway's recent statement on The View, where she said that abortion can be another word for mercy. The speaker breaks down Hathaway's arguments, pointing out the flaws in her reasoning and comparing it to the rationale for legalized slavery. The conversation also delves into the topic of postpartum depression and the importance of treating it, as well as the recent trial of a mother who killed her three young children.
As the speaker asks, "How do we make this change?" and "How do we stop this from becoming the new normal?" The answer lies in holding those in power accountable and making sure that the law is enforced. Join the conversation and listen to the full episode to hear more about the issues and solutions discussed.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Talking about the latest installment of it. I'll pull from
the Katie Lankford piece in the Denver Post. 500 teen
crowd vandalized, stole from Aurora Shopping Center, police said. Now,
you may have seen the video circulating on social, but
here's the gist of it. A group of 500 teenagers
became a, quote, public safety issue at an Aurora Shopping
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Center parking lot when some of the teens started vandalizing
and stealing things from nearby businesses on Sunday afternoon, police
officials said. The Aurora Police Department responded to the Hoffman
Heights Shopping Center near East 6th Avenue and North Peoria.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Street at 1.30 p.m.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
For a large group, mainly teens between 14 and 17
years old, gathering in the parking lot after an unpermitted
sporting event.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I wonder what that was.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
In any case, people started walking onto the street and
smaller groups went into nearby businesses, including a restaurant and
grocery store. and vandalized property and stole merchandise, the Aurora
Police Department said in a news release. Now, we know
from the video online it was a King Soopers, and
at least the video clips that you can find on X, etc.,
looked like, you know, there was plenty of looting going
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on there. And then Burger King, and you couldn't tell
at the Burger King if people were jumping back behind
the counter and grabbing burgers or what, but they were
definitely standing up on the counter and appeared to be
taking over the restaurant. Go back to the post piece.
Officers declared it an unlawful assembly and ordered the crowd
to disperse, which required more than 70 officers to respond.
(01:32):
Police officials said investigators are still reviewing video and other
evidence to identify people suspected of criminal activity. Quoting the
police chief, the overwhelming majority of young people in our
community make.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Good decisions every day.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Our police chief, Todd Chamberlain, said in a statement, But
a crowd can create a false sense of anonymity and
encourage individuals to make decisions they might.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Never make on their own. And the statement goes on
from there.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Post wraps it up with problems with teen takeovers, large
gatherings of young people in public spaces that devolve. into
sometimes criminal casts have popped up across Metro Denver in
recent years, and then they give the Crimestopper number.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Hey, more and more and more, we're seeing this, right?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I've got another Channel 7 story here talking about another
Denver street takeover at 10th and Broadway, and you've probably
experienced this out on the roads, or you've read or
heard about it, talked to somebody who had it happen
to them, and then the stuff going into stores. We
cannot let this be the new normal, and I understand
we've got lefties running a lot of places now, But
it doesn't matter. We can't let this be the new normal.
(02:38):
It's like broken windows. You know the broken window theory.
If all of a sudden you allow broken windows to
remain in a community, pretty soon the whole community goes
straight down the toilet. You've got to fix those broken
windows right away. So how do you do it? And
starting point, I think, in all fairness, is we don't
blame law enforcement. This is not law enforcement's fault. You know,
(03:01):
people go into law enforcement. My dad was a cop
for 30 years. People go into law enforcement. Go into
law enforcement to serve and protect and to enforce the
law for the benefit of the law-abiding people. People don't
go into law enforcement to say, hey, let's sit around
and watch another gang of roving teens take over and
trash King Soopers.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
No.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
It hurts their heart.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
It makes them want to throw up to watch that stuff.
So the question is, what are the people in charge,
the politicians, willing to do to stop it? What's your solution?
I understand we're talking about different categories here. We're talking
about the teen takeovers of stores like this King Soopers
and this Burger King. And then separately, we're talking about
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these rampant road closures and takeovers where people use social
media and they say meet here and there at such
and such a time. And then all of a sudden,
you've got a big crowd that just shuts down the
road and they shut it down for drag racing or
they shut it down for other stuff with cars or
just the thrill of shutting it down. So mechanically, concretely,
(04:03):
how do you push back here? And I understand some
new laws have been proposed, and I support that, but
we've got enough laws right now to enforce it. But
how do you pull that off? 303-713-8255, DAN-57739. I think
one fair starting point is whatever entity.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Is involved, in this case, whether it's Aurora, Denver. Denver
had its shutdown the other night.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I think that entity at the political level has to
devote all the resources necessary to identifying every single person
you can identify in that video and to prosecuting them
to the full extent of the law. I think you
have to start there. But then, OK, how do you
stop these things before they even get going?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
How do you do that? I've got some ideas. I'd
love yours.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
So.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
That's on our agenda today.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
303-713-8255.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
The number D-A-N-5-7-7-3-9. Here's the KMGH piece on the latest
Denver Street takeover.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
I'm Denver 7's Maggie Bryan here at Broadway and 10th Avenue.
The latest intersection to be taken over by racing cars
blocking the streets during the night. This latest one happened
on Sunday night. And now we're hearing from a state
legislator about the solution he believes could work to crack
down on this public safety issue.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Engines revving. Tires squealing.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
And frustrated drivers waiting for the intersection to clear. It's
a sight becoming more common in Denver as organized groups
take over streets while racing cars and doing donuts.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
It was about 10.30 when I think the noise just
became out of control.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Micaiah Lambright lives near 10th and Broadway and heard the
most recent takeover on Sunday night.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
A lot of engines backfiring, two very large explosives. It
feels like, you know, they're sort of taunting the city
because we hear it continue.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
You know, we hear stories about it from other neighborhoods.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Denver police say officers on the department's street racing team
responded Sunday night, but say the vehicles left the area
as police got there. DPD says officers did not arrest
or cite anyone involved.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
They're hard to track, hard to deal with.
Speaker 7 (06:18):
And heck, by the time you get cops out to
them to engage with them, they're typically gone or it's
broken up.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Representative Chad Clifford, an Arapahoe County Democrat, has been trying
to address.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
You know, we don't have a law on the books
today that just perfectly articulates what we're talking about with
the street takeover event.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
He sponsored a bill last legislative session to increase penalties
and enforcement for street takeovers. While working to define what
they are, the bill would have created escalating penalties for
stunt driving while making it a class six felony to
take part in a coordinated street.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Impoundment.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
However, the legislation died in committee over concerns that the
definitions were too broad and could end up targeting cultural groups.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
What a bunch of garbage. You know, that's what you get.
And I respect this Democrat for pushing the bill. But
that's what you run into is the Democrats in control.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
They don't want to protect you. They want to protect
the criminal.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
That's what that comes down to. And that's why, hey,
this show led the charge against it a few years ago. Remember,
Leslie Herod, it was one of Polis' top priorities to
do away with all crimes, all crimes for kids in
our public schools, all misdemeanors. But you're talking about some
really serious sex offenses, some really serious violent offenses, property offenses.
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They just didn't want any of the kids in public
schools to be subject to any of the criminal laws.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
That's the point here. That's the moment we're at.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
So what you have is you have the people in
power in most places, not all, who want these people
to be able to take over. It's the left's twisted
idea of justice. Let them take over. So what are
we going to do about that? We have to do
it within the bounds of the law, but what are
we going to do about it? Look, even when a
Democrat pushed a bill to shut it down, oh, no, no,
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that could end up being culturally biased in the application.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
What in the world does that even mean? You know,
have the people, the Democrats.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
In power ever heard of Dr. Martin Luther King? Have
they ever heard of him? Have they ever read or
listened to anything that he said?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Dr. King said it's not about color. It's about content
of character, but not for these lefties.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Oh, no, no, we can't make that a crime because
there might be some People of this color or that
color who commit the crime.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I mean, it's insane.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
But what are you going to do when the voters
of the state won't do anything about it? It's just
going to.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Keep getting worse. So that doesn't mean we can.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Just go into the fetal position on the couch and
give up. We weren't put on this rock to give up.
So what do you do about it? How do we
make this change? And assume that you actually had people
in power who were willing to protect the innocent instead
of the guilty, right?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
What does the mechanism look like? How do you make
that change? 303-713-8255, DAN, 57739. You're on the Dan Kaplan Show.
Speaker 8 (09:30):
Information.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
And it's also a tell that they care more about
illegal immigrants getting a commercial driver's license than they are
about the safety of their own citizens.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
It's so true.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
That's Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy. And I live this every day.
I mean, I've been doing this for over 40 years.
And in these cases I've handled here and around the country,
we're representing people, survivors and dying, survivors of people who
are killed in the most gruesome way by truck drivers.
in this country illegally, sometimes can't even read the signs,
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should never have been behind the wheel. and really shady
trucking companies that just are worried about killing people because
if they do, they'll just kind of fold up. Some
will go back to the other side of whatever border
they came over to begin with. It is a clear
and present danger to you and your family, and that
is the reality on the roadway. So thank God this
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administration is taking it seriously, and Duffy's taking it seriously,
and they're making some real progress on this. Because I
can tell you right here in Colorado, I can show
you multiple cases where people killed or maimed in the
most horrific ways by people.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Who never should have been behind the wheel. People not
even legally in this country. And so it really is
a tale of two industries within the trucking industry, in
my experience.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Again, there's a lot of decades of doing these cases
where you've got, let's say, roughly half the trucking companies Really,
really good companies.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
They take safety seriously. They work at it.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Hey, and when they're reckless, when they end up killing
somebody or whatever, they have to be held accountable. But
they day in and day out operate in a credible way.
And then you have what I'd say is the other
half of the industry, which is just all out reckless,
no regard.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
For human life.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
It's all about squeezing not just the buck, but every
single penny, no matter how much more danger they create
for you. In my constitutionally protected opinion. So you've really
got this split personality in the industry. And all I'm
saying is in terms of the threats to you and
your kids, your family day in and day out, this
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would have to be near the very top of the
list in Colorado. And Polis didn't make it any better
for you. He made it worse for you when he
sent the message to the whole industry nationwide. Ah, Colorado,
come here. You can know your truck's not safe. You
can know the brakes aren't working. You can drive down
I-70 anyway. You can decide when you see all these
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cars stopped in front of you, you can decide, no,
I'm not going to go into the ditch because I
might hurt myself. So I'm going to go 80 miles
an hour in my semi right into the back of
all that stop traffic, and I'm going to burn a
lot of people to death.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Because I know in Colorado, I'll do maybe five years.
Remember that? Remember that case?
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, where the jury, you know, and a Democrat prosecutor
in Jeffco, you know, to her credit, she took that
to trial. She got the homicide convictions. This guy's facing
100 years. But no, Kim Kardashian whispers sweet nothings in
Polis's ear. And then all of a sudden, Polis takes
it away from the judge. And the guy's going to
be out after about five years. Like maybe one for
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every person he burned to death? Yeah, so Polis did
not make it any safer for you and your family
when he pulled that stunt.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah, dangerous, dangerous, dangerous stuff. And I know we talk
about it all the time on this show.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
You just get your typical driver now that the left
has undermined and underfunded law enforcement and there isn't much
enforcement on the roadway.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You get all of.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
These yahoos in cars going, Amy and I were talking
about it the other night. We had come back from
that wedding in Boulder I told you about. And maybe
two or three times on the way.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Back, we had some, you know, killer, because that's what
they are. They're killers.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
They don't care about your life. The only issue is
whether they're going to kill on this trip or some
other trip. And you know the type I'm talking about,
weaving in and out of traffic well over 100.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Miles an hour.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
And we probably saw, to be fair, two on the
way home. But it's probably pretty common for you now
to see at least one. And that's just the reality
of our roadways. And this ties into the topic we
opened the show with, which is the big mob takeovers
we're seeing in different places in Colorado now.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Aurora, where we saw one over the.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Weekend, took over a King Soopers, took over the whole
shopping center area, took over a Burger King, and then
the 10th and Broadway, you know, shut down the takeover
of the streets there for drag racing.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
So we're kind of an existential moment here.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Is it going to be mob rule? You know, what
are we going to do about it? How would you
do this mechanically? On the trucking side, there is a
way to do it. The mechanism's in place. If there's
a political will to enforce it, and thank goodness with
this administration, there is.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
303-713-8255, text DAN57739.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Dan, there are little to no consequences. Maybe parents should
be held accountable. Would love your thoughts on all of that.
I'm sure you're wondering about the Lindsay Clancy murder trial. This,
of course, the case where the mother killed her three
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young children. Defense says it was postpartum depression. Jury has
now been out. It's three full days, and that's pretty rare.
Speaker 9 (14:59):
I've got your question, and the question is, after many
hours of deliberation, we are unable to come to a
unanimous decision. I brought you back out because... I know
that this was a long trial.
Speaker 8 (15:16):
All right.
Speaker 9 (15:17):
I know there were over 80 witnesses. There were over
300 exhibits. And but because of that, I'm going to
ask you to go back. keeping in mind all the
instructions that I gave you to go out and to
continue your deliberations at this time.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
All right.
Speaker 9 (15:37):
And so with that, I'm going to ask you to
go back out. Like I said, keep in mind the
instructions I gave you, reviewing the evidence, and I'd ask
you to resume your deliberations.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
At this time.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (15:50):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, it'd be interesting to see if that jury works
it out. And that's, you know, what judges typically do.
in these situations. So we'll see.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Where that goes.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
And a lot of people around the country have been
watching that trial stream, very strong feelings on both sides.
As you might imagine, these three beautiful kids strangled to
death and then all the evidence that they, Hey, this
is a normal mom until she developed this postpartum depression
that then allegedly wasn't properly treated, et cetera. So yeah,
what will the jury do with that in the end?
(16:21):
And this is all I can tell you as a
guy who has the privilege of trying a lot of cases,
you know, I was just in trial a week or
two ago. I'll be in trial again a week from Monday.
And and a guy who's covered a lot of cases,
you know, I've covered a lot of cases for the networks.
Everything else is just just never second guess a jury
from a distance, because unless you are literally in that
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courtroom for the whole trial, it's I don't think it's
possible to fairly second guess them. You know, a case
like OJ, maybe everybody's listening every day and I would
pop out to the courtroom and then come back here.
Or Rodney King, I was in the courtroom for the
entire federal trial, moved to L.A.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
To cover that.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah, then I think you can fairly comment or criticize
if you feel the jury got it wrong. But other
than that, and even then I would hesitate because then
you've got the dynamic in the jury room.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
But from a distance, listen, whatever that jury does, I
would not be critical of them because I wasn't in
the courtroom for a single minute. But when we come back,
I want to talk to you about a few things.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
And, you know, you've got this overarched the show today,
the value of human life. We're going to come.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Back in a very successful actress, Anne Hathaway, coming out
on national TV today and saying abortion can be another
word for mercy. I want to take that head on,
and that will not be hard.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
You're on the Dan Kapler Show.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Right here inside this room is the only time you
guys care. I've never received anything from anybody over here
at all regarding my daughter or my family or anything.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Hey, Mr.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Coleman, you guys is Delilah Long. I want to help
you revise it so that we were interested inside of it. Nothing.
You guys have no pathway to anything. You guys want
to sit there and talk about the pathway to citizenship.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
There is a pathway.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
It's not jump the fence and apply.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
That's not the way it goes. Powerful.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Marcus Coleman, father of a girl who was brutally disabled
by an illegal immigrant truck driver, just speaking truth to
the Democrats on that House Judiciary Subcommittee. 303-713-8255, the number D-A-N-57739.
If you just joined us, we're talking about the new
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normal in much of Colorado now, certainly the metro area,
where particularly those jurisdictions with lefties in power, you have
mob rule.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
And don't fall law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Law enforcement will enforce the law if those in political power.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Allow it to. But out in Aurora, you had a.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Mob take over a shopping center area, ransack a King Soopers,
or at least take over the King Soopers, do some looting.
Same thing in a Burger King. And then you have
the big street shutdown in Denver. And those happen all
the time.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
You know, by mobs.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
And again, law enforcement would love to do its job.
But the political powers, yeah. They're not so keen on that.
So how do we fix it? Have some text on
that before I get to this very revealing Anne Hathaway
interview on The View. So Dan says, Alexa, the Clancy
trial will set back women just like Me Too did.
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That's Alexa's provocative take on that. And as you know,
there's a lot of conversation surrounding this Clancy trial where
the three beautiful young kids were strangled to death by
their mom. who said she wasn't properly treated for postpartum depression.
The jury's been out three days now. And there are
many who feel that an acquittal there would just reinforce
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this message that you get from some, some on the
left that, oh, children are some kind of burden. So
there's a concern about a bigger message there I don't
know the particulars of the case, so I'm not going
to second guess this.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Jury no matter what they do.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
We all know postpartum depression can be profoundly real and
affect people gravely. Never an excuse to kill or to abuse, obviously.
And not to mention that it's against the law, but
motorcycles are constantly riding between cars and splitting lanes even
while traffic is moving. And listen, we have been on
the lead edge of this issue since Polis and the
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left imposed this greatest danger on Colorado drivers all under
their green ideology, right? Oh, get more people out of
cars and onto motorcycles. And they say, oh, no, but
what we legalized was lane filtering. That's not lane splitting.
Lane filtering, all the cars have to be stopped.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I get a light.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
And then the motorcycles can come up between cars and
come to the front so they don't get rear-ended. So
that's how the left justified what they knew would green light,
pure lane filtering, lane splitting, which is exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
What we have in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
You experience it all the time on the roadways now
like I do, where you just have traffic going full
speed and then motorcycles going even faster right between the cars.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
What could possibly go wrong? Obviously, everything. And it is.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
But what's striking to me, and it ties into this
Anne Hathaway sound I'm about to play for you, is
the common denominator here from the left, which is this mind-blowing,
total disregard for the value of innocent human life. Or
for guilty human life, unless it's somebody who's ex-murdered 10 people.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
And then they don't want them executed.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
But Just this disregard for human life. Where does that
come from.
Speaker 10 (21:56):
On the left?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Because when you do what the left did and you
essentially green light this lane splitting.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
You know, there are going to be a lot of
dead bodies. And all of those dead bodies.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Now, I understand the motorcyclist is often doing something wrong
when they're killed lane splitting, but they're still somebody's son.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
They're somebody's daughter.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
They may be somebody's father or somebody's mother.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And it's like the left never even thinks of the
dead bodies.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Is it because of, if you want to go really deep,
is it just because of their big state, little individual
view of the world that unless it's their own human
life or their cronies, they just don't value human life?
Does this spring from the fact that in this kind
of Bizarre, obscene way the Democratic Party has become completely
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beholden to those who who want to kill mass numbers
of people before birth.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Up to the moment of delivery.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
So has that now distorted the entire view of the
left on all policy issues to where human life is
just throw away? It seems like that because it would
also explain how they take the approach to education they take.
which is to oppose to the death true school choice
and keep all these kids, disproportionately kids of color, all
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these kids locked up in underperforming schools, robbing them of
their equal opportunity in life. Yeah, it's like human life
just doesn't matter to them. And then listen to Anne Hathaway.
And she's being celebrated on The View for this. And
some of the most disturbing things and perverse words ever
(23:43):
spoken in public. Abortion can be another word for mercy.
Speaker 11 (23:48):
When you are a young woman starting out your career,
your reproductive destiny matters a great deal. My own personal
experience with abortion, and I don't think we talk about
this enough, abortion can be another word for mercy.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
We don't know. We don't know.
Speaker 11 (24:01):
It's not a world in which... We know that no
two pregnancies are alike and it follows that no two
lives are alike. That follows that no two conceptions are alike.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
So how can we have a law?
Speaker 11 (24:12):
How can we have a point of view on this
that says we must treat everything the same? And where
I come at it from is when you allow for choice,
you allow for flexibility, which is what we need in
order to be human.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Wait a second. And you have to laugh, right? Because.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
it's so lethal, it's so homicidal, but it's so stupid.
And she is not a stupid person. She's advocating something evil,
but she's not a stupid person. Intellectually, she's an intelligent person.
So what's really going on here, and I know as
you're driving in the car right now, you're probably just
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banging the steering wheel with a killer rebuttal point to
each and every one, each and every one, of these
declarations of hers, and I'll take them one by one,
but first I want to give you my premise that
what you're listening to there, my belief, and I don't
know whether, I think she reportedly has talked about her
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own abortion, but whether she has or not, what I
see there is somebody who has probably had one or
more abortions and is in a lot of pain with
a lot of regret and is trying.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
To rationalize it.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
That's what I see there, because how else do you
get somebody who is otherwise a highly intelligent person saying
things that are obviously so provably false and so easily disproven?
And I also think that there are a lot of very,
very good people in this country who have had abortions
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and deeply, deeply regret it.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
And then who do what we all do when we
do something we regret.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
We try to rationalize it just so it's easier to
live with ourselves. The difference is you have so many
people in this country who've had abortions, and they had
those abortions under pressure. Maybe it's pressure from the guy
who used her for sex. Maybe it's pressure from family.
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Maybe it's financial pressures. But you've had a lot of people,
I think, who have abortions under pressure, and then they
come to deeply regret it.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
So they try to rationalize it.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
That's my guess with what we have with Anne Hathaway.
Where I kind of lose my sympathy for is she
decides to take this to the nation to try to
justify and encourage more abortions.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
You know, they.
So that's why I'm so critical of her.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
You know, the people who are just living with the
pain and regret of having had an abortion, I have
never in 30 years on air judged or criticized them
at all. It doesn't change the reality of the underlying act,
which was an innocent human life was taken.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
That's not philosophical or religious. It's just medical. It's just scientific.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
So that's why I've never criticized or judged a woman
who's just had an abortion. And is suffering with it privately.
But when someone like Anne Hathaway goes on a campaign
to encourage more taking of innocent human life, then you've
got to call it out. So let's break this down
piece by piece. I can't do them all right now.
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And I know you've already formed these arguments in your
head because it's so easy to defeat what she's saying.
But let's take it from the top.
Speaker 11 (27:44):
When you are a young woman starting out your career,
your reproductive destiny matters a great deal. So what she's
saying is when you're just starting out your.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Career, It's very important that you be able to kill
that baby so it doesn't interfere with your career.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
And that's the same.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
As people saying back in the days of slavery, hey,
you know, when you're just starting that plantation, slavery is really,
really important because otherwise you wouldn't be able to have
a successful business. It is the exact same kind of
rationale that we heard for that profound evil of slavery.
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And you can see that comparison, the rationale for legalized
abortion compared to the rationale for legalized slavery. You can
see that throughout these issues.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
So I'll come back. I'll break down the rest of that.
Get your thoughts.
Speaker 9 (28:39):
303-713-8255. D-A-N-57739.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
You're on the Dan Kaplan Show.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
The metro area in pockets, the latest example out in Aurora,
taking over a King Soopers and a Burger King.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
And I think the day.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
After that, central Denver taking over a roadway for drag racing.
Don't blame law enforcement. They want to enforce the law.
The political will isn't there. So how do we do it?
And how do we do it mechanically? Because we cannot
let this become the new normal. Then we're talking about
Anne Hathaway, who goes on The View to say abortion
can be another word for mercy. And we're just breaking
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down these fatally flawed arguments she makes in favor of abortion.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Let's go to the phone lines. Don, you're on The
Dan Kaplan Show.
Speaker 8 (29:26):
Welcome. Hey, Dan. Hey, just a quick little anecdotal story.
Back in 1977, I was cruising down towards San Diego.
And all of a sudden, a couple of motorcycles go
riding right between me and the car next to me.
And so it's been going on over there for a
long time. I don't know if it's a.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Good idea or bad, but.
Speaker 8 (29:47):
You know, I mean, I can see the inherent danger.
If somebody opens their car door, whatever.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Or a car changing lanes.
Speaker 8 (29:56):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
There was a video the other day out of Colorado,
a car just doing a normal lane change, and this
cyclist ends up getting blown up.
Speaker 8 (30:04):
Exactly. I mean, I can test, too, from my own
personal experience. I mean, I'm 72 years old and I've
been riding motorcycles since I was a young man. But, yeah,
you know, the motorcycle, when it's riding alone, it doesn't
occupy much lane space. And so for the automobile to
see that person is somewhat difficult. Sometimes when you get
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two motorcycles riding side by side. then they're occupying the
same lane space as a car, and they're more likely
to be seen. But those louder exhaust pipes, as long
as they're not extreme, that does alert a driver that
there's a motorcycle in the vicinity.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Yeah, Don, hey, appreciate the call on that. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
California defined and authorized lane splitting January 1 of 2017,
and as we sit here right now, I think, Motorcycle
deaths are up about 20% in California since then. And
then you get the constant and additional stress on drivers,
on other drivers, of having these motorcycles weave in and out.
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I don't think other drivers should be subjected to that
unnecessary stress.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Alexa, is this our Alexa? You're on the Dan Kaplan Show.
It is. Wonderful.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Talking about these various women, including Anne Hathaway, do you remember,
and I won't make These women can't wait to listen
to Michelle Obama talk and went to her listen. Did
you hear her interview with Jon Stewart a few days ago?
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Oh, I sure did, Jan. We played all that sound
where she said she doesn't miss her kids.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
Yeah. Yeah, she doesn't miss her kids. I mean, I
think that this is just the entire left thinking for women.
And what do you think is behind it? I can't imagine.
I think it starts with abortion, Dan. When you're okay,
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you don't. Aborting a baby with, you know, no qualms,
I don't think you value life as much. And you
don't value those special moments.
Speaker 10 (32:12):
I got to imagine Amy cried when Joe and Caroline
went to their first day of school or to college
or anything else. And when they come home, I bet
you two are like white on rice all over them
and can't wait to see them.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
We both cried like, We cry when we think of
the first day they started school at whatever point.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
You know, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
And that's the common experience, I think, for for people
across the party line. So, Alexa, I'd extend your point.
I do think that that the Democrat Party just commitment
to this mass killing before birth, you know, has has
made all human life less valuable in the eyes of
the Democratic Party and political activists. Maybe it's a way
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they live with themselves. But I take it back a
step further. I think when you saw the Democratic Party,
and I'm talking about the leaders, the people in power,
not your everydays, when they made that shift to being
a secular party, to not believing in God, I think
you saw a lot of this start. Because if you
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don't believe in God, like as a party, because as
a party right now, the people in power look down
on people who believe in God.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
And so when you get to that point.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
That then I think that all of a sudden children
are just kind of a nuisance.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
And if you don't believe in God, I.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Think that and I'm not including everybody who doesn't believe
in God. I'm talking in political terms here.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
You know, I think at.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
That point, it's a much more selfish. I'm the center
of the universe. me oriented type of philosophy and existence.
And I don't know if Michelle Obama believes in God
or not. I'm not judging her. I'm just saying the
secular left Democratic Party generally, it's just so me oriented.
They're trying to get the fulfillment from themselves and more
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time to themselves and more stuff instead of the only
way they really can get fulfillment.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
You know this.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I know everybody knows this. The only way you ever
are going to get fulfillment isn't through that. You know,
it's through putting others first and God first and all that.
Alexa will come back on the other side along with others.
And I'll play this Anne Hathaway sound. It's really stunning.
She's being celebrated on the left. It's so easy to
tear her arguments apart. But how does a person ever
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get to the point Anne Hathaway has?
Talking about the latest installment of it. I'll pull from
the Katie Lankford piece in the Denver Post. 500 teen
crowd vandalized, stole from Aurora Shopping Center, police said. Now,
you may have seen the video circulating on social, but
here's the gist of it. A group of 500 teenagers
became a, quote, public safety issue at an Aurora Shopping
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Center parking lot when some of the teens started vandalizing
and stealing things from nearby businesses on Sunday afternoon, police
officials said. The Aurora Police Department responded to the Hoffman
Heights Shopping Center near East 6th Avenue and North Peoria.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Street at 1.30 p.m.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
For a large group, mainly teens between 14 and 17
years old, gathering in the parking lot after an unpermitted
sporting event.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I wonder what that was.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
In any case, people started walking onto the street and
smaller groups went into nearby businesses, including a restaurant and
grocery store. and vandalized property and stole merchandise, the Aurora
Police Department said in a news release. Now, we know
from the video online it was a King Soopers, and
at least the video clips that you can find on X, etc.,
looked like, you know, there was plenty of looting going
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on there. And then Burger King, and you couldn't tell
at the Burger King if people were jumping back behind
the counter and grabbing burgers or what, but they were
definitely standing up on the counter and appeared to be
taking over the restaurant. Go back to the post piece.
Officers declared it an unlawful assembly and ordered the crowd
to disperse, which required more than 70 officers to respond.
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Police officials said investigators are still reviewing video and other
evidence to identify people suspected of criminal activity. Quoting the
police chief, the overwhelming majority of young people in our
community make.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Good decisions every day.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Our police chief, Todd Chamberlain, said in a statement, But
a crowd can create a false sense of anonymity and
encourage individuals to make decisions they might.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Never make on their own. And the statement goes on
from there.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Post wraps it up with problems with teen takeovers, large
gatherings of young people in public spaces that devolve. into
sometimes criminal casts have popped up across Metro Denver in
recent years, and then they give the Crimestopper number.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Hey, more and more and more, we're seeing this, right?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I've got another Channel 7 story here talking about another
Denver street takeover at 10th and Broadway, and you've probably
experienced this out on the roads, or you've read or
heard about it, talked to somebody who had it happen
to them, and then the stuff going into stores. We
cannot let this be the new normal, and I understand
we've got lefties running a lot of places now, But
it doesn't matter. We can't let this be the new normal.
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It's like broken windows. You know the broken window theory.
If all of a sudden you allow broken windows to
remain in a community, pretty soon the whole community goes
straight down the toilet. You've got to fix those broken
windows right away. So how do you do it? And
starting point, I think, in all fairness, is we don't
blame law enforcement. This is not law enforcement's fault. You know,
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people go into law enforcement. My dad was a cop
for 30 years. People go into law enforcement. Go into
law enforcement to serve and protect and to enforce the
law for the benefit of the law-abiding people. People don't
go into law enforcement to say, hey, let's sit around
and watch another gang of roving teens take over and
trash King Soopers.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
No.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
It hurts their heart.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
It makes them want to throw up to watch that stuff.
So the question is, what are the people in charge,
the politicians, willing to do to stop it? What's your solution?
I understand we're talking about different categories here. We're talking
about the teen takeovers of stores like this King Soopers
and this Burger King. And then separately, we're talking about
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these rampant road closures and takeovers where people use social
media and they say meet here and there at such
and such a time. And then all of a sudden,
you've got a big crowd that just shuts down the
road and they shut it down for drag racing or
they shut it down for other stuff with cars or
just the thrill of shutting it down. So mechanically, concretely,
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how do you push back here? And I understand some
new laws have been proposed, and I support that, but
we've got enough laws right now to enforce it. But
how do you pull that off? 303-713-8255, DAN-57739. I think
one fair starting point is whatever entity.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Is involved, in this case, whether it's Aurora, Denver. Denver
had its shutdown the other night.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I think that entity at the political level has to
devote all the resources necessary to identifying every single person
you can identify in that video and to prosecuting them
to the full extent of the law. I think you
have to start there. But then, OK, how do you
stop these things before they even get going?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
How do you do that? I've got some ideas. I'd
love yours.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
So.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
That's on our agenda today.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
303-713-8255.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
The number D-A-N-5-7-7-3-9. Here's the KMGH piece on the latest
Denver Street takeover.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
I'm Denver 7's Maggie Bryan here at Broadway and 10th Avenue.
The latest intersection to be taken over by racing cars
blocking the streets during the night. This latest one happened
on Sunday night. And now we're hearing from a state
legislator about the solution he believes could work to crack
down on this public safety issue.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Engines revving. Tires squealing.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
And frustrated drivers waiting for the intersection to clear. It's
a sight becoming more common in Denver as organized groups
take over streets while racing cars and doing donuts.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
It was about 10.30 when I think the noise just
became out of control.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Micaiah Lambright lives near 10th and Broadway and heard the
most recent takeover on Sunday night.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
A lot of engines backfiring, two very large explosives. It
feels like, you know, they're sort of taunting the city
because we hear it continue.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
You know, we hear stories about it from other neighborhoods.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Denver police say officers on the department's street racing team
responded Sunday night, but say the vehicles left the area
as police got there. DPD says officers did not arrest
or cite anyone involved.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
They're hard to track, hard to deal with.
Speaker 7 (06:18):
And heck, by the time you get cops out to
them to engage with them, they're typically gone or it's
broken up.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Representative Chad Clifford, an Arapahoe County Democrat, has been trying
to address.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
You know, we don't have a law on the books
today that just perfectly articulates what we're talking about with
the street takeover event.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
He sponsored a bill last legislative session to increase penalties
and enforcement for street takeovers. While working to define what
they are, the bill would have created escalating penalties for
stunt driving while making it a class six felony to
take part in a coordinated street.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Impoundment.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
However, the legislation died in committee over concerns that the
definitions were too broad and could end up targeting cultural groups.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
What a bunch of garbage. You know, that's what you get.
And I respect this Democrat for pushing the bill. But
that's what you run into is the Democrats in control.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
They don't want to protect you. They want to protect
the criminal.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
That's what that comes down to. And that's why, hey,
this show led the charge against it a few years ago. Remember,
Leslie Herod, it was one of Polis' top priorities to
do away with all crimes, all crimes for kids in
our public schools, all misdemeanors. But you're talking about some
really serious sex offenses, some really serious violent offenses, property offenses.
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They just didn't want any of the kids in public
schools to be subject to any of the criminal laws.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
That's the point here. That's the moment we're at.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
So what you have is you have the people in
power in most places, not all, who want these people
to be able to take over. It's the left's twisted
idea of justice. Let them take over. So what are
we going to do about that? We have to do
it within the bounds of the law, but what are
we going to do about it? Look, even when a
Democrat pushed a bill to shut it down, oh, no, no,
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that could end up being culturally biased in the application.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
What in the world does that even mean? You know,
have the people, the Democrats.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
In power ever heard of Dr. Martin Luther King? Have
they ever heard of him? Have they ever read or
listened to anything that he said?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Dr. King said it's not about color. It's about content
of character, but not for these lefties.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Oh, no, no, we can't make that a crime because
there might be some People of this color or that
color who commit the crime.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I mean, it's insane.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
But what are you going to do when the voters
of the state won't do anything about it? It's just
going to.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Keep getting worse. So that doesn't mean we can.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Just go into the fetal position on the couch and
give up. We weren't put on this rock to give up.
So what do you do about it? How do we
make this change? And assume that you actually had people
in power who were willing to protect the innocent instead
of the guilty, right?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
What does the mechanism look like? How do you make
that change? 303-713-8255, DAN, 57739. You're on the Dan Kaplan Show.
Speaker 8 (09:30):
Information.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
And it's also a tell that they care more about
illegal immigrants getting a commercial driver's license than they are
about the safety of their own citizens.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
It's so true.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
That's Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy. And I live this every day.
I mean, I've been doing this for over 40 years.
And in these cases I've handled here and around the country,
we're representing people, survivors and dying, survivors of people who
are killed in the most gruesome way by truck drivers.
in this country illegally, sometimes can't even read the signs,
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should never have been behind the wheel. and really shady
trucking companies that just are worried about killing people because
if they do, they'll just kind of fold up. Some
will go back to the other side of whatever border
they came over to begin with. It is a clear
and present danger to you and your family, and that
is the reality on the roadway. So thank God this
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administration is taking it seriously, and Duffy's taking it seriously,
and they're making some real progress on this. Because I
can tell you right here in Colorado, I can show
you multiple cases where people killed or maimed in the
most horrific ways by people.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Who never should have been behind the wheel. People not
even legally in this country. And so it really is
a tale of two industries within the trucking industry, in
my experience.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Again, there's a lot of decades of doing these cases
where you've got, let's say, roughly half the trucking companies Really,
really good companies.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
They take safety seriously. They work at it.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Hey, and when they're reckless, when they end up killing
somebody or whatever, they have to be held accountable. But
they day in and day out operate in a credible way.
And then you have what I'd say is the other
half of the industry, which is just all out reckless,
no regard.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
For human life.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
It's all about squeezing not just the buck, but every
single penny, no matter how much more danger they create
for you. In my constitutionally protected opinion. So you've really
got this split personality in the industry. And all I'm
saying is in terms of the threats to you and
your kids, your family day in and day out, this
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would have to be near the very top of the
list in Colorado. And Polis didn't make it any better
for you. He made it worse for you when he
sent the message to the whole industry nationwide. Ah, Colorado,
come here. You can know your truck's not safe. You
can know the brakes aren't working. You can drive down
I-70 anyway. You can decide when you see all these
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cars stopped in front of you, you can decide, no,
I'm not going to go into the ditch because I
might hurt myself. So I'm going to go 80 miles
an hour in my semi right into the back of
all that stop traffic, and I'm going to burn a
lot of people to death.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Because I know in Colorado, I'll do maybe five years.
Remember that? Remember that case?
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, where the jury, you know, and a Democrat prosecutor
in Jeffco, you know, to her credit, she took that
to trial. She got the homicide convictions. This guy's facing
100 years. But no, Kim Kardashian whispers sweet nothings in
Polis's ear. And then all of a sudden, Polis takes
it away from the judge. And the guy's going to
be out after about five years. Like maybe one for
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every person he burned to death? Yeah, so Polis did
not make it any safer for you and your family
when he pulled that stunt.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah, dangerous, dangerous, dangerous stuff. And I know we talk
about it all the time on this show.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
You just get your typical driver now that the left
has undermined and underfunded law enforcement and there isn't much
enforcement on the roadway.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You get all of.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
These yahoos in cars going, Amy and I were talking
about it the other night. We had come back from
that wedding in Boulder I told you about. And maybe
two or three times on the way.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Back, we had some, you know, killer, because that's what
they are. They're killers.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
They don't care about your life. The only issue is
whether they're going to kill on this trip or some
other trip. And you know the type I'm talking about,
weaving in and out of traffic well over 100.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Miles an hour.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
And we probably saw, to be fair, two on the
way home. But it's probably pretty common for you now
to see at least one. And that's just the reality
of our roadways. And this ties into the topic we
opened the show with, which is the big mob takeovers
we're seeing in different places in Colorado now.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Aurora, where we saw one over the.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Weekend, took over a King Soopers, took over the whole
shopping center area, took over a Burger King, and then
the 10th and Broadway, you know, shut down the takeover
of the streets there for drag racing.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
So we're kind of an existential moment here.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Is it going to be mob rule? You know, what
are we going to do about it? How would you
do this mechanically? On the trucking side, there is a
way to do it. The mechanism's in place. If there's
a political will to enforce it, and thank goodness with
this administration, there is.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
303-713-8255, text DAN57739.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Dan, there are little to no consequences. Maybe parents should
be held accountable. Would love your thoughts on all of that.
I'm sure you're wondering about the Lindsay Clancy murder trial. This,
of course, the case where the mother killed her three
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young children. Defense says it was postpartum depression. Jury has
now been out. It's three full days, and that's pretty rare.
Speaker 9 (14:59):
I've got your question, and the question is, after many
hours of deliberation, we are unable to come to a
unanimous decision. I brought you back out because... I know
that this was a long trial.
Speaker 8 (15:16):
All right.
Speaker 9 (15:17):
I know there were over 80 witnesses. There were over
300 exhibits. And but because of that, I'm going to
ask you to go back. keeping in mind all the
instructions that I gave you to go out and to
continue your deliberations at this time.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
All right.
Speaker 9 (15:37):
And so with that, I'm going to ask you to
go back out. Like I said, keep in mind the
instructions I gave you, reviewing the evidence, and I'd ask
you to resume your deliberations.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
At this time.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (15:50):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, it'd be interesting to see if that jury works
it out. And that's, you know, what judges typically do.
in these situations. So we'll see.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Where that goes.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
And a lot of people around the country have been
watching that trial stream, very strong feelings on both sides.
As you might imagine, these three beautiful kids strangled to
death and then all the evidence that they, Hey, this
is a normal mom until she developed this postpartum depression
that then allegedly wasn't properly treated, et cetera. So yeah,
what will the jury do with that in the end?
(16:21):
And this is all I can tell you as a
guy who has the privilege of trying a lot of cases,
you know, I was just in trial a week or
two ago. I'll be in trial again a week from Monday.
And and a guy who's covered a lot of cases,
you know, I've covered a lot of cases for the networks.
Everything else is just just never second guess a jury
from a distance, because unless you are literally in that
(16:45):
courtroom for the whole trial, it's I don't think it's
possible to fairly second guess them. You know, a case
like OJ, maybe everybody's listening every day and I would
pop out to the courtroom and then come back here.
Or Rodney King, I was in the courtroom for the
entire federal trial, moved to L.A.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
To cover that.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah, then I think you can fairly comment or criticize
if you feel the jury got it wrong. But other
than that, and even then I would hesitate because then
you've got the dynamic in the jury room.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
But from a distance, listen, whatever that jury does, I
would not be critical of them because I wasn't in
the courtroom for a single minute. But when we come back,
I want to talk to you about a few things.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
And, you know, you've got this overarched the show today,
the value of human life. We're going to come.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Back in a very successful actress, Anne Hathaway, coming out
on national TV today and saying abortion can be another
word for mercy. I want to take that head on,
and that will not be hard.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
You're on the Dan Kapler Show.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Right here inside this room is the only time you
guys care. I've never received anything from anybody over here
at all regarding my daughter or my family or anything.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Hey, Mr.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Coleman, you guys is Delilah Long. I want to help
you revise it so that we were interested inside of it. Nothing.
You guys have no pathway to anything. You guys want
to sit there and talk about the pathway to citizenship.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
There is a pathway.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
It's not jump the fence and apply.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
That's not the way it goes. Powerful.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Marcus Coleman, father of a girl who was brutally disabled
by an illegal immigrant truck driver, just speaking truth to
the Democrats on that House Judiciary Subcommittee. 303-713-8255, the number D-A-N-57739.
If you just joined us, we're talking about the new
(18:43):
normal in much of Colorado now, certainly the metro area,
where particularly those jurisdictions with lefties in power, you have
mob rule.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
And don't fall law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Law enforcement will enforce the law if those in political power.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Allow it to. But out in Aurora, you had a.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Mob take over a shopping center area, ransack a King Soopers,
or at least take over the King Soopers, do some looting.
Same thing in a Burger King. And then you have
the big street shutdown in Denver. And those happen all
the time.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
You know, by mobs.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
And again, law enforcement would love to do its job.
But the political powers, yeah. They're not so keen on that.
So how do we fix it? Have some text on
that before I get to this very revealing Anne Hathaway
interview on The View. So Dan says, Alexa, the Clancy
trial will set back women just like Me Too did.
(19:35):
That's Alexa's provocative take on that. And as you know,
there's a lot of conversation surrounding this Clancy trial where
the three beautiful young kids were strangled to death by
their mom. who said she wasn't properly treated for postpartum depression.
The jury's been out three days now. And there are
many who feel that an acquittal there would just reinforce
(19:59):
this message that you get from some, some on the
left that, oh, children are some kind of burden. So
there's a concern about a bigger message there I don't
know the particulars of the case, so I'm not going
to second guess this.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Jury no matter what they do.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
We all know postpartum depression can be profoundly real and
affect people gravely. Never an excuse to kill or to abuse, obviously.
And not to mention that it's against the law, but
motorcycles are constantly riding between cars and splitting lanes even
while traffic is moving. And listen, we have been on
the lead edge of this issue since Polis and the
(20:36):
left imposed this greatest danger on Colorado drivers all under
their green ideology, right? Oh, get more people out of
cars and onto motorcycles. And they say, oh, no, but
what we legalized was lane filtering. That's not lane splitting.
Lane filtering, all the cars have to be stopped.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I get a light.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
And then the motorcycles can come up between cars and
come to the front so they don't get rear-ended. So
that's how the left justified what they knew would green light,
pure lane filtering, lane splitting, which is exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
What we have in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
You experience it all the time on the roadways now
like I do, where you just have traffic going full
speed and then motorcycles going even faster right between the cars.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
What could possibly go wrong? Obviously, everything. And it is.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
But what's striking to me, and it ties into this
Anne Hathaway sound I'm about to play for you, is
the common denominator here from the left, which is this mind-blowing,
total disregard for the value of innocent human life. Or
for guilty human life, unless it's somebody who's ex-murdered 10 people.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
And then they don't want them executed.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
But Just this disregard for human life. Where does that
come from.
Speaker 10 (21:56):
On the left?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Because when you do what the left did and you
essentially green light this lane splitting.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
You know, there are going to be a lot of
dead bodies. And all of those dead bodies.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Now, I understand the motorcyclist is often doing something wrong
when they're killed lane splitting, but they're still somebody's son.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
They're somebody's daughter.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
They may be somebody's father or somebody's mother.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And it's like the left never even thinks of the
dead bodies.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Is it because of, if you want to go really deep,
is it just because of their big state, little individual
view of the world that unless it's their own human
life or their cronies, they just don't value human life?
Does this spring from the fact that in this kind
of Bizarre, obscene way the Democratic Party has become completely
(22:50):
beholden to those who who want to kill mass numbers
of people before birth.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Up to the moment of delivery.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
So has that now distorted the entire view of the
left on all policy issues to where human life is
just throw away? It seems like that because it would
also explain how they take the approach to education they take.
which is to oppose to the death true school choice
and keep all these kids, disproportionately kids of color, all
(23:20):
these kids locked up in underperforming schools, robbing them of
their equal opportunity in life. Yeah, it's like human life
just doesn't matter to them. And then listen to Anne Hathaway.
And she's being celebrated on The View for this. And
some of the most disturbing things and perverse words ever
(23:43):
spoken in public. Abortion can be another word for mercy.
Speaker 11 (23:48):
When you are a young woman starting out your career,
your reproductive destiny matters a great deal. My own personal
experience with abortion, and I don't think we talk about
this enough, abortion can be another word for mercy.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
We don't know. We don't know.
Speaker 11 (24:01):
It's not a world in which... We know that no
two pregnancies are alike and it follows that no two
lives are alike. That follows that no two conceptions are alike.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
So how can we have a law?
Speaker 11 (24:12):
How can we have a point of view on this
that says we must treat everything the same? And where
I come at it from is when you allow for choice,
you allow for flexibility, which is what we need in
order to be human.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Wait a second. And you have to laugh, right? Because.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
it's so lethal, it's so homicidal, but it's so stupid.
And she is not a stupid person. She's advocating something evil,
but she's not a stupid person. Intellectually, she's an intelligent person.
So what's really going on here, and I know as
you're driving in the car right now, you're probably just
(24:51):
banging the steering wheel with a killer rebuttal point to
each and every one, each and every one, of these
declarations of hers, and I'll take them one by one,
but first I want to give you my premise that
what you're listening to there, my belief, and I don't
know whether, I think she reportedly has talked about her
(25:12):
own abortion, but whether she has or not, what I
see there is somebody who has probably had one or
more abortions and is in a lot of pain with
a lot of regret and is trying.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
To rationalize it.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
That's what I see there, because how else do you
get somebody who is otherwise a highly intelligent person saying
things that are obviously so provably false and so easily disproven?
And I also think that there are a lot of very,
very good people in this country who have had abortions
(25:54):
and deeply, deeply regret it.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
And then who do what we all do when we
do something we regret.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
We try to rationalize it just so it's easier to
live with ourselves. The difference is you have so many
people in this country who've had abortions, and they had
those abortions under pressure. Maybe it's pressure from the guy
who used her for sex. Maybe it's pressure from family.
(26:23):
Maybe it's financial pressures. But you've had a lot of people,
I think, who have abortions under pressure, and then they
come to deeply regret it.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
So they try to rationalize it.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
That's my guess with what we have with Anne Hathaway.
Where I kind of lose my sympathy for is she
decides to take this to the nation to try to
justify and encourage more abortions.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
You know, they.
So that's why I'm so critical of her.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
You know, the people who are just living with the
pain and regret of having had an abortion, I have
never in 30 years on air judged or criticized them
at all. It doesn't change the reality of the underlying act,
which was an innocent human life was taken.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
That's not philosophical or religious. It's just medical. It's just scientific.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
So that's why I've never criticized or judged a woman
who's just had an abortion. And is suffering with it privately.
But when someone like Anne Hathaway goes on a campaign
to encourage more taking of innocent human life, then you've
got to call it out. So let's break this down
piece by piece. I can't do them all right now.
(27:36):
And I know you've already formed these arguments in your
head because it's so easy to defeat what she's saying.
But let's take it from the top.
Speaker 11 (27:44):
When you are a young woman starting out your career,
your reproductive destiny matters a great deal. So what she's
saying is when you're just starting out your.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Career, It's very important that you be able to kill
that baby so it doesn't interfere with your career.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
And that's the same.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
As people saying back in the days of slavery, hey,
you know, when you're just starting that plantation, slavery is really,
really important because otherwise you wouldn't be able to have
a successful business. It is the exact same kind of
rationale that we heard for that profound evil of slavery.
(28:27):
And you can see that comparison, the rationale for legalized
abortion compared to the rationale for legalized slavery. You can
see that throughout these issues.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
So I'll come back. I'll break down the rest of that.
Get your thoughts.
Speaker 9 (28:39):
303-713-8255. D-A-N-57739.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
You're on the Dan Kaplan Show.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
The metro area in pockets, the latest example out in Aurora,
taking over a King Soopers and a Burger King.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
And I think the day.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
After that, central Denver taking over a roadway for drag racing.
Don't blame law enforcement. They want to enforce the law.
The political will isn't there. So how do we do it?
And how do we do it mechanically? Because we cannot
let this become the new normal. Then we're talking about
Anne Hathaway, who goes on The View to say abortion
can be another word for mercy. And we're just breaking
(29:18):
down these fatally flawed arguments she makes in favor of abortion.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Let's go to the phone lines. Don, you're on The
Dan Kaplan Show.
Speaker 8 (29:26):
Welcome. Hey, Dan. Hey, just a quick little anecdotal story.
Back in 1977, I was cruising down towards San Diego.
And all of a sudden, a couple of motorcycles go
riding right between me and the car next to me.
And so it's been going on over there for a
long time. I don't know if it's a.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Good idea or bad, but.
Speaker 8 (29:47):
You know, I mean, I can see the inherent danger.
If somebody opens their car door, whatever.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Or a car changing lanes.
Speaker 8 (29:56):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
There was a video the other day out of Colorado,
a car just doing a normal lane change, and this
cyclist ends up getting blown up.
Speaker 8 (30:04):
Exactly. I mean, I can test, too, from my own
personal experience. I mean, I'm 72 years old and I've
been riding motorcycles since I was a young man. But, yeah,
you know, the motorcycle, when it's riding alone, it doesn't
occupy much lane space. And so for the automobile to
see that person is somewhat difficult. Sometimes when you get
(30:25):
two motorcycles riding side by side. then they're occupying the
same lane space as a car, and they're more likely
to be seen. But those louder exhaust pipes, as long
as they're not extreme, that does alert a driver that
there's a motorcycle in the vicinity.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Yeah, Don, hey, appreciate the call on that. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
California defined and authorized lane splitting January 1 of 2017,
and as we sit here right now, I think, Motorcycle
deaths are up about 20% in California since then. And
then you get the constant and additional stress on drivers,
on other drivers, of having these motorcycles weave in and out.
(31:02):
I don't think other drivers should be subjected to that
unnecessary stress.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Alexa, is this our Alexa? You're on the Dan Kaplan Show.
It is. Wonderful.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Talking about these various women, including Anne Hathaway, do you remember,
and I won't make These women can't wait to listen
to Michelle Obama talk and went to her listen. Did
you hear her interview with Jon Stewart a few days ago?
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Oh, I sure did, Jan. We played all that sound
where she said she doesn't miss her kids.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
Yeah. Yeah, she doesn't miss her kids. I mean, I
think that this is just the entire left thinking for women.
And what do you think is behind it? I can't imagine.
I think it starts with abortion, Dan. When you're okay,
(31:59):
you don't. Aborting a baby with, you know, no qualms,
I don't think you value life as much. And you
don't value those special moments.
Speaker 10 (32:12):
I got to imagine Amy cried when Joe and Caroline
went to their first day of school or to college
or anything else. And when they come home, I bet
you two are like white on rice all over them
and can't wait to see them.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
We both cried like, We cry when we think of
the first day they started school at whatever point.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
You know, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
And that's the common experience, I think, for for people
across the party line. So, Alexa, I'd extend your point.
I do think that that the Democrat Party just commitment
to this mass killing before birth, you know, has has
made all human life less valuable in the eyes of
the Democratic Party and political activists. Maybe it's a way
(32:58):
they live with themselves. But I take it back a
step further. I think when you saw the Democratic Party,
and I'm talking about the leaders, the people in power,
not your everydays, when they made that shift to being
a secular party, to not believing in God, I think
you saw a lot of this start. Because if you
(33:20):
don't believe in God, like as a party, because as
a party right now, the people in power look down
on people who believe in God.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
And so when you get to that point.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
That then I think that all of a sudden children
are just kind of a nuisance.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
And if you don't believe in God, I.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Think that and I'm not including everybody who doesn't believe
in God. I'm talking in political terms here.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
You know, I think at.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
That point, it's a much more selfish. I'm the center
of the universe. me oriented type of philosophy and existence.
And I don't know if Michelle Obama believes in God
or not. I'm not judging her. I'm just saying the
secular left Democratic Party generally, it's just so me oriented.
They're trying to get the fulfillment from themselves and more
(34:09):
time to themselves and more stuff instead of the only
way they really can get fulfillment.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
You know this.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I know everybody knows this. The only way you ever
are going to get fulfillment isn't through that. You know,
it's through putting others first and God first and all that.
Alexa will come back on the other side along with others.
And I'll play this Anne Hathaway sound. It's really stunning.
She's being celebrated on the left. It's so easy to
tear her arguments apart. But how does a person ever
(34:37):
get to the point Anne Hathaway has?
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