September 2, 2026 • 34 mins
As the school year gets underway, a statewide protest is brewing in Colorado's middle and high schools. Over 100 schools are planning to participate in a walkout on September 4, demanding that ICE agents stay away. But what should the consequences be for these schools and their students? Should they be allowed to walk out without any repercussions, or should there be consequences for the kids and the teachers who encourage them?
This episode delves into the complexities of the issue, discussing the potential safety risks and the moral implications of allowing students to walk out of school. The speaker shares a list of schools that are planning to participate in the protest, and raises questions about the responsibility of schools in this situation. They also discuss the potential consequences for teachers who encourage students to walk out, and whether or not schools should cancel classes on the day of the protest.
The conversation touches on the importance of education and the potential risks of allowing students to walk out, including the danger of traffic accidents and the impact on students who want to attend school. The speaker also shares some surprising statistics on the safest cars on the road, and discusses the potential consequences for schools that don't take steps to prevent students from walking out.
If you're interested in hearing more about this issue and the potential consequences for schools and students, tune in to this episode to hear the speaker's thoughts on the matter.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
For all these kids across the state who apparently at
over 100 high schools and middle schools across Colorado plan
to walk out of class on Friday, September 4, as
part of a protest demanding that ICE agents stay away.
So an anti-ICE protest. Over 100 schools. I'm about to
give you many, not all on the list. And so
(00:21):
this is apparently being sponsored by the Colorado Youth Coalition,
whatever that is. as well as the Brown Berets of Tepetlan, T-E-P-E-T-L-A-N,
the Denver People's March, 50501 Colorado, Pulse Colorado, No Concentration
Camps in Colorado, and General Strike U.S. So according to Westward,
(00:46):
those are the sponsoring groups. And so let me give
you a partial list of the schools where students are
planning to participate in the walkout. Now, this list is
according to Colorado Youth Coalition, which says more are expected
to join. So I'll just give you a flavor, and
(01:07):
we're blessed with an audience from throughout the state and beyond.
So we'll not limit it to the front range area.
Alamosa High School, Arvada West, and there are others beyond
what I'm about to give you here. Aurora Science and
Tech High School. So I guess they've learned all they
need to about science and tech. Cherokee Trail, Eagle Crest, Grandview, Hinkley, Overland, Rangeview,
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Smoky Hill, among others. Boulder High, Fairview High, New Vista
High School, Broomfield High, Holy Family High School. Now, that's
interesting to me. It'd be interesting to see because that's
just a tremendous high school. Very interesting to me to
see how many kids walk out from there. Beautiful Carbondale.
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And if you have not been in the Roaring Fork Valley,
Roaring Fork High School, according to the Colorado Youth Coalition,
Castle View High School, Douglas County High School, Renaissance Secondary School,
Arapahoe High School is on the list. Now, again, this
is just the list provided by this group. You know,
(02:15):
who knows what schools are, what schools aren't. But I'm
passing along the information here. We do have a whole
bunch of high schools in beautiful Colorado Springs, including Cheyenne Mountain-Doherty,
Palmer Ridge, and others. And then I want to bring
you up to Commerce City. Yeah, Adams City High School
is on this list. Now, Denver, you get into Denver.
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Abraham Lincoln High School, DeAvalyn, Denver School of the Arts, Dr.
Martin Luther King Jr., early college. I mean, the Denver
list is so long. It's, you know, East High School
is on this list. John F. Kennedy. And then it
says Mullen High School as well. That'll be interesting to see.
(03:01):
And then the list goes on and on and on
from there, listing many schools from around the state, Poudre
High School up in Fort Collins. And yeah, and we'll
add others as we go through the show. We could
spend the whole show naming all 100 again with the
asterisk that But again, this is what the group putting
the march on, the kids leaving school on September 4
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on is claiming. So what do you think? What kind
of consequences should there be for these schools? I know
on another list I saw somewhere it included Cherry Creek
High School. And I don't know whether that's accurate or not.
But what should a responsible school do here? Obviously, a
school can't physically force a student to stay in the school.
(03:46):
But what should the consequence be? If the school is
being run responsibly, what should the consequence be for the
kids who walk out of school to protest ICE? 303-713-8255.
Would love your thoughts on that. D-A-N-5-7-7-3-9. So that'll be
our lead and our overarch today. Much more that we
(04:07):
need to talk about as well. I do want to
talk with you about, because we talk about AI and
the coming impact of AI, because I really think we're
in a 9-10 mentality when it comes to what the
impact on Colorado from AI is going to be, you know,
on jobs and income, et cetera, societal disruption. But I
want to go through a list of degrees safest from AI.
(04:30):
Got another list today that I really want you to hear.
Cars you are least likely to die in. So all
of that is going to be on the list today
as well, which brings me to this constant reminder that
I often on the show often offer on the show.
And that is, please remember, I mean, because the left
has undermined law enforcement in Colorado to the point where
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there just isn't that much enforcement on the roadways. Right.
So it's like Thunderdome and you have the killers out
there kind of ruling the roadways. No fault of law enforcement.
But my point is this. You can no longer go
when the light turns green. If you're the lead car,
you've got to look both ways when the light turns
green because so many people are running red lights. And
(05:14):
that advice has saved lives. I know it saved our
daughter's life. I've seen the video. Got the video of
this trucker, you know, running a red light at probably 70,
80 miles an hour in a 35 as our daughter
was sitting at the green and about to leave. But
I constantly preach at dinner. So you can imagine how
exciting our dinner tables are. Do not go when the
(05:35):
light turns green. So yeah, Colorado has become that whack
on the roadway. So we've got all of that ahead
today and much, much more. So yeah, what should the
consequence be for those kids who walk out of school
for this big ICE protest on September 4th? Or maybe
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you're in that camp that says, hey, they're kids, let
them go. You know, it's their time in life, right
or wrong, to just sort of, you know, spread their
wings and and their voice, et cetera. And I'd also
ask schools to think about, I'm not suggesting, I've never
seen a case that suggests there are any legal liability
for schools here, but if you're just going to let kids,
and it may be age dependent, just kind of wander
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off campus without any effort to really restrain them or
convince them not to, I'm not saying you can lock
them in or chain them to their chairs, though that
did happen to me. That did happen to me in
fifth grade. Okay. When Sister Aunt Felice, who is a saint, gosh,
what a wonderful, wonderful nun, and I owe her so
very much. But she did at one point, if I
(06:38):
remember right, I think I was tied to that chair
for the day. But who could blame her, right? 303-713-8255, D-A-N-57739. Well,
we'll touch on it today, and we'll be talking about
it a lot as we get closer to Election Day.
But we do have to talk about it. this income
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tax ballot measure that's been put on. Voters are going
to vote on it. It obviously comes from the left,
and it would dramatically increase, you know, income tax rates
in Colorado for higher earners. And, you know, you really do,
and I don't ask this facetiously, you sit back and
you have to ask, are they trying to just take
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that next step and destroy the state economically? Because I've
talked about this a lot, and you know what's true.
This state, with all the natural advantages we've been given,
we should be leading the world or at least in
the top five cities in the world, states in the world,
you know, when it comes to everything good. Instead, we're
(07:43):
fighting for scraps here and we're doing about as poorly
as a state that's blessed with as much as we
are could possibly be doing right. You look at every
category of bad and it just keeps going up and
most categories of good keep going down. You have to
work at it to make that happen with a place
like this. You know, we're not in the middle of Arkansas.
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God love Arkansas and I'm sure he does. You know,
we're not Des Moines, Iowa and they're doing great things
in Des Moines, Iowa. But we've got all these advantages
and the left seems to be intent on just screwing
it up. But if you just sat down and you
mapped out a plan, okay, how do we really hurt
the working people in this state? How do we really,
(08:26):
really hurt the working people in this state? You could
not come up with a more effective approach to that
than the one the left is taking now, which starts
by screw their kids, okay? Here's the way we undermine
working people. We screw their kids, and we make sure
they don't get true school choice, they don't get fair
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opportunity in education so that they can't fulfill their full
economic potential. So first thing we do to screw the
working people is we screw their kids. And the left
is doing that, unfortunately, very effectively. If you're the left
and you want to screw working people, the second thing
we do is let's take money away from their employers.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
That's how the left's perverted worldview. That's how we screw
the working people. That's how we keep people down. Let's
take money away from their employers. How's that going to
work out for working people? Yeah, no, let's raise the
taxes dramatically on their employers so their employers have less money.
(09:33):
And the left's thinking, yeah, we can fool people into thinking, oh,
that just means that they're not going to be able
to buy a fancy car or they're not going to
be able to buy a boat. But what the left
knows is those employers, they're going to buy their fancy car.
They're going to buy their boat. They're going to buy
their bigger house and they shouldn't be begrudged at. What
they're going to do is they're going to cut back
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on their employees. They're going to have fewer and they're
going to pay them less and they're going to give
them fewer benefits. And that's what the left is doing
to the working people in this state by raising taxes
on their employers. So why do you think the left
wants to do that? You tell me. I'll tell you
what I think. 303-713-8255. D-A-N-5-7-7-3-9. You're on the Dan Kaplan Show.
(10:23):
I know there were over 80 witnesses. There were over
300 exhibits.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
But because of that, I'm going to ask you to
go back out, keeping in mind all the instructions that
I gave you, to go out and to continue your
deliberations at this time.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
And so with.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
That, I'm going to ask you to go back out.
Like I said, keep in mind the instructions I gave you,
reviewing the evidence, and I'd ask you to resume your
deliberations at this time.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Okay. Jack sounds like a cool guy. He instructed the
jury again after that. And can you imagine what it's
like in the Lindsay Clancy deliberations? I mean, you're into what,
day five at this point? I mean, there's not much
new to talk about. So you've got the one group
saying she strangled her three children. And you've got the
(11:14):
other person or group saying, yeah, but she was out
of her mind. I mean... what are they talking about
in there other than that? You know, maybe they're going
back and reviewing particular pieces of evidence, but I think
it's pretty clear at this point, they are deeply, deeply deadlocked.
So I'll let you know if something changes on that today, 303-713-8255,
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the number D A N 5 7 7 3 9.
So lots to go over here. I do want to
get you this list of the 10 cars you're least
likely to die in. So, I've told you before on
this show, I really like statistics from the Insurance Institute
(11:56):
for Highway Safety. And maybe when you're getting a car,
you know, you go online and you look for crash
test results. And you could look at the government results,
and that's okay. That's useful information. But I like the
Insurance Institute results because they got skin in the game.
I mean, from a dollar standpoint, the insurance industry wants
you in the safest cars. And I think that's awesome.
(12:18):
So I like to look at their statistics. So they're
now saying that the smaller vehicles, the high-horsepower sports cars,
remain disproportionately dangerous. Obviously, right. But then they are now
publishing a list of the safest vehicles on the road,
those with the lowest death rates. Now, it's not going
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to be any surprise to you that out of the 25,
that they list 18 are SUVs. Makes sense, right? Just
the size, weight advantage. You know, a lot of these
SUVs have the advanced structural engineering, you know, larger platforms,
superior real world crash outcomes. And that's what I look at, right?
(13:01):
Because I've been That's been my real job for the
past 43 years now is representing victims in these really
horrific crash cases. So I get a firsthand look at
how vehicles hold up in these crashes. And it's always
so stunning and heartbreaking, et cetera, to me that the
type of vehicle you're in is going to make such
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a dramatic difference to the outcome. And, you know, listen,
the person who ran the red light or was driving
drunk or the trucker did something crazy, yet they're the
cause of the crash. But to the extent, I always
tell people this, humanly possible, and I know we all
got to pay bills and everything else, but humanly possible,
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just do everything you can to get in one of
the safest cars possible. It makes such a dramatic difference
in the outcome. And that can be used cars, too,
because we're in a nice spot now where Big safety
improvements started roughly about 10 years ago. And so you
can get some pretty good and low-priced used cars that
have tremendous crash worthiness. And we can get into the
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engineering minutiae if you want. But I like this list.
It's a good starting point for the conversation. So we'll
just start with the top 10 now in the interest
of time. And I've got some other topics we're doing.
And I'll be taking texts and calls soon on our
overarch topic today, which is, You know, what should a
responsible school tell the students who are planning to participate
(14:30):
in this walkout to protest ICE that's going on in
Colorado middle and high schools on September 4th? What kind
of consequence should there be from the school if the
students do walk out? So 303-713-8255 for calls on that text. D-A-N-5-7-7-3-9. Interesting.
Volkswagen Atlas... is 10th safest car. Now, I'm not familiar
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with this particular car. It's a midsize SUV. Toyota RAV4,
the four-wheel drive prime version, is tied for ninth safest.
The BMW X5 four-wheel drive at number eight. The Porsche
Macan at number seven, and that's Porsche's I call midsize,
(15:23):
it's kind of small to midsize SUV, the Porsche Macan.
The Toyota Tundra Crewmax four-wheel drive comes in at sixth safest.
Mercedes-Benz GLE class two-wheel drive, that comes in tied for fifth.
But here's one thing that confuses me in their methodology,
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driver death rate zero. So if your driver death rate
is zero, how are you tied for fifth? In any case,
that's what they list in. And one thing I'd say
about Mercedes just from all these decades of handling catastrophic
injury and death crashes for victims, what I'd say is
just seeing it real world, I don't know how anybody
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tops a Mercedes in terms of crash worthiness. I'm not
saying there aren't other cars just as safe, but my goodness,
we've seen in so many different big crashes. It can
be an older Mercedes, this or that. You want to
check the model. But Mercedes overall, I think, You know, very, very,
very safe. And I know all of our first thought is, yeah,
but very, very, very, very expensive. And I think what
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we find when we go and look at Kelly and
other sources is that, yeah, very expensive right off the lot.
But like a lot of luxury cars, pretty big depreciation early,
pretty big depreciation over time. But, you know, what's not
depreciating is the structural integrity of that vehicle. So if
you go out and let's say you're going to buy
a 10-year-old Mercedes for all those safety features, yeah, you're
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not getting the benefit of some of the electronic improvements
in the last few years, such as lane change warning
and control and stuff like that. But you're still getting,
depending on the model, some really good structural integrity. I
was glad to see number three and a little surprised
by it. Now, I've driven Tahos for a lot of years.
I don't have one at the moment, but I've driven
a lot of Tahos over a lot of years. And
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Tahoe came in at number three. Obviously, you know, the
big heavy body on frame, the mass, all that's going
to help. But they also have some good safety stuff
in the Tahoe. Number two, BMW X7. So a little
bit larger, obviously, than the X5. And number one, the
Audi Q7. And again, that's a... mid to larger size SUV. So, listen,
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that's not to the exclusion of some other safe cars
out there. But if you have any other thoughts on that,
please do let me know. 303-713-8255, D-A-N-57739. When we come back,
the call to text. What should schools do to the
kids walking out in Colorado to protest ICE? This is
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being organized statewide. I went through some of the groups
behind it in the first segment. I'll revisit that in
a minute. But, yeah, so it's interesting, right? It's the
Friday before the start of the Labor Day weekend. But
if a school is a good, responsible school, what consequence
will they have? Can't change kids to the desk, but
what consequence would they have? 303-713-8255, DAN-57739, texters.com. Dan, Holy
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Family wrote parents yesterday saying they do not know why
they are on the list and they as a school
do not condone walkouts. So it makes me question the
entire list. Yes, I think you should question the list.
As I talked about earlier, the list is being provided
by the organizing groups. So it may be a wish list. Now,
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we know the kind of tradition in Denver, I mean,
you know, because it's lefty controlled and everything else, and
the kids are encouraged to just stream out over any issue,
no consequence, except for innocent people on the street. I mean,
remember what happened to John Adsit, courageous Denver police officer,
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you know, who was run down just trying to protect
the kids who had flooded out of East High School
to protest something, and he's run over. and horrifically injured,
and he's courageously battled those injuries. I mean, so there
are consequences for others out there. And, you know, full disclosure, friend,
John Edson is, and I've had the privilege of representing him.
But it's, yeah, so there are a lot of consequences
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for a lot of people when schools just let kids
flood outside, and obviously danger created for the students themselves.
So should the schools try to stop them? If so,
how would you do that? Is there a difference? between
the middle school kids? Because a lot of middle schools
are on this list. But again, a lot of this
list may be just wishful thinking by the organizers on
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the left. 303-713-8255, DAN 57739. I think there have to
be consequences. If nothing else, I mean, first there should be.
But if nothing else, that's part of the education here. That, okay, listen,
if your principles are so strong that these people who
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are protecting you and your community, which ICE is doing,
that somehow you should be out there protesting them instead
of protesting these lefties, you know, who are jeopardizing your
health and safety and the community and getting people here
raped and murdered. by just encouraging all people in the
world to come to Colorado illegally? You know, if you
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really want to walk out and protest the good guys,
then you know what? You need to pay a price
for breaking the rules to stand on principle. If schools don't,
no matter how wrong the principle may be, if schools
don't make kids pay a price for that, they're once
again failing the kids. I think they're failing the kids by,
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not doing everything they can to discourage them leaving, but
they're really failing the kids if there isn't a really
significant consequence. And, yes, I can say really more than
twice in the same sentence. So what should that consequence be? Dan,
if school walkouts are approved by the education departments, there
is initially nothing that can be done. Kids like to
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support their teachers and schools, Bob and Arvada. And that's
one of the questions we don't have answered at this point.
Are these walkouts being actually endorsed and approved by certain schools,
by certain teachers? What should the consequence be for a
teacher if a teacher is encouraging kids to walk out? 303-713-8255,
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the number. Dan, there won't be any consequences for these
budding revolutionaries. 90% of their teachers and administrators are woke communists.
This is the birth. of the American Cultural Revolution. I
don't think so. I don't think that's what's going on
here at all. I think one thing we've seen traditionally
is that kids like to walk out, that they like
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to walk out for, quote, cool causes, for causes that
their classmates believe in. Even if they don't believe in
the cause, they like the idea of walking out of school.
They like the idea of not being ostracized because they're
not part of the group walking out of school. We've
seen this phenomena for a long, long time. So I
don't read too much into it. I think that one
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of the really encouraging things, one of the reasons I'm
so optimistic about the future, and you're seeing it show
up in the polls in lots of other ways, is
so many kids get it at a younger age than
they used to. And I know that social media has
its downsides, and this digital age has its downsides, but
it also has upsides in terms of access to information.
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And I think there are many more kids than you
would think who understand that most of the people coming
into the country legally are not people who've committed other
serious crimes. But with the open borders, there are a
dangerous number of people who've come into the country legally
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who are rapists, who are murderers, who are dangerous, and
that ICE is protecting us. By keeping them out and
rounding up those who are here who have committed other crimes.
I think there are more kids than we would realize
who get that. And who get that the left is
wrong on so many other things. So, no, I don't
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think this signals any big revolution. My guess is, and
I can't prove it. I don't have subpoena power. I
haven't done that investigation. But my guess is you have
the usual gang of suspect groups on the left funded
by the usual people who are behind this. or largely
behind it. I wouldn't be surprised if there are just
some well-intentioned, and I put that in quotes, you know,
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organic type student groups that have risen up to also
endorse this. But one way or the other, there have
to be consequences. What should that consequence be? And somebody
tell me, right, because our kids now have been out
of high school for a little bit. Do they still
do detentions? If they don't, maybe it's a good time
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to restart them. But I think if a kid walks
out of school, the kid should have to have a
consequence at least equal to an additional day in school.
I don't know what form that would take depending on
the school, but I think it should be at least that.
You know, what other consequences would you imagine here? And
what consequence for a teacher who encourages kids to leave
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the schools? We've talked about this before on the show,
and we played some of the tape of teacher's plotting
to shut down schools in order to make their own
political points, actually trying to freeze kids out of school,
deprive kids of their education so the teachers could make
some political points. It seems to me there have to
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be some pretty significant consequences within the educational system, some
kind of something for these teachers. I mean, they... something
in their file, something within the process for these teachers.
If they are going to actively interfere with these kids
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getting educated, my own suggestion of the consequence would be
at least a note in their file. So the next
school that's thinking about hiring them knows they're hiring somebody
who is willing to interfere with the kid's education in
order to make a political point. And Kyle in Fort Collins,
I think the administration should cancel school on the walkout day.
(25:50):
Don't give them the satisfaction. I love that creativity. And
it is the Friday before Labor Day, but obviously we
don't want to deprive all the other kiddos of their
education on that day. And I just think that, you know,
it's so easy for all of us. I fall into
it sometimes. It's so easy to just sort of lump
things together. I don't think any of us now can
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look at say, middle school kids or high school kids
or college kids. There's no such thing. Just like people
say the jury, that there's no such thing that there are,
you know, because I am so grateful to be a
trial lawyer and been a trial lawyer for 43 years. And,
you know, you hear people talk or write books about
the jury, this, the jury, that. No, you've got, say,
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in a civil case, you've got six different individuals who
comprise that jury. And if you're not very attuned to that,
you're not going to be able to to do your job. Well,
same thing with schools. You know, there's so many kids,
so many kids who are so different and so much
more conservatism in so many of these schools. Now, many
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of them may not be willing to come out and
say it, you know, because they don't want to be ostracized.
And congratulations, Colorado natives over 50. You let the left
capture the youth. And we'll cut the final thread when
you keep voting for Lopez in protest, losers. Listen, Greg
Lopez is not going to determine the outcome of this
(27:19):
election for governor in Colorado. It's just not going to happen.
And I like Greg, as I've talked about often. I've
had him on air often. I had him on air
when he was a GOP candidate pulling a lot of votes.
He didn't win the nomination, but he pulled a lot
of votes. And I just... I just don't get this
one because Greg can only, in my view, hurt the
(27:41):
GOP candidate. But Greg isn't going to decide the outcome
of this election. We all know for any statewide candidate
in Colorado, any GOP statewide candidate in Colorado, the key
is going to be whether that candidate catches fire to
the point where they can then attract the money and
get the momentum back. in order to be able to
(28:05):
win statewide in a blue state. That's what it's going
to take. So whether we're talking about governor, senator, attorney general, treasurer,
it's going to take that particular Republican candidate catching fire.
That's what's going to have to happen. And, you know,
we've talked a lot about the potential for that in
the attorney general's race because of the fact Jenna Griswold
(28:27):
on the other side is so deeply flawed and unqualified.
And the GOP has a very qualified nominee. So the
potential is there in that race for that candidate to
catch fire. But that's what it's going to take in
every race. And we'll find out together if it's going
to happen. You're on The Dan Kaplan Show. Are they
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hoping that if they put that word out, it will
become a self-fulfilling prophecy? Or is it another one of
these deals where you get all these well-funded lefty groups
that come together and they use social media to just
cause a lot of trouble? And so big questions for you.
What should the consequence be for kids who walk out? Well,
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if you're running the school that these kids walk out of,
what is the consequence? Do you try to stop them, like,
physically from walking out? I think that's fraught with peril.
But what should that consequence be? Or let's say some
teachers get behind it and encourage kids to walk out
of their own school. What do you think should happen there?
Let me get to some text on this, DAN57739. Dan,
(29:32):
regarding a consequence for students walking out to protest ICE,
I would require an assignment regarding... The legality and purpose
of ISIS. and immigration for anyone walks. And it would
be based on grade level for difficulty and would be
completed at school with mandatory presentation. Could probably sell the
cable rights to that presentation. Don't you think that would
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be something to see Dan? Um, I always mention the
officer who got run over near East High School and
the hands up, don't shoot farce. You know, I did
mention earlier that these walkouts have grave safety dangers. And
we saw it play out in real time when a
tremendous Denver police officer, John Adsit, who was just out
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there as part of the bike patrol. He's out there
trying to protect these kids and he gets run over
by a car. And almost killed. It's truly miraculous that
he lived. It's hard to find a more courageous person.
Everything he has fought through just to live and to
try to recover and his beautiful family and everything that
they've been through together. And he's now a friend. And
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I've had the privilege of representing him, which is how
I know so much about his story. But even before
I met him, you know, I, like lots of other Coloradans,
went and stood outside his hospital room in the park
outside Denver Health saying prayers for him. before I met him,
you know, because there is grave danger in these walkouts.
And John Adsett paid the price for that. Dan, from
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a public safety standpoint, canceling school is preferred. Now, that's
a serious comment worth real consideration. If this is real
on the kind of scale the organizers are claiming, and
not just blown smoke, then should you just cancel school
to avoid the safety issue of all these kids flooding
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the streets? I don't like that precedent myself, but I
do err on the side of safety when it comes
to kids. Like, you'll never hear me on air griping
about school closures for snow and ice because there is
a real safety danger to those kids, you know, when
they're out there on these slippery, icy, snowy-type days, it's
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not that they can't handle the cold or anything like that.
It's just the danger tied to motor vehicles. And so
that's why I never gripe about that. So what do
you think? Do you think the schools should just be
canceled if this is going to be a large-scale series
of walkouts? I would come down against that for a
lot of different reasons, including the obligation– to the kids
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who want their education and take it seriously and want
to be in school that day. I think I'd send
a very bad message to just cancel school. I appreciate
the good intentions of the text. Dan, schedule a test
equal to 75% of the total grade. That period with
no makeup tests. I love this. One of the things
I love most about talk radio is, you know, you
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get so many great ideas like I never would have
thought of. That's a tremendous idea. Okay, 75% of the grade.
I know it's just the Friday before Labor Day, but yeah,
we're going to do 75% of the grade on Friday. Dan,
there must be a parental permission slip to walk out. Interesting.
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Or is this third-degree child abuse? See, there is that
safety issue. Again, from a safety standpoint, and I'm not
analyzing this from a literal liability standpoint, but... Is there
potential liability for schools that don't at least try to
keep the kids in school? I'm not suggesting there is
because certainly for these public schools, and I cannot imagine
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any private schools are participating, but for the public schools,
you've got governmental immunity and you've got those layers of protection.
So I'm not suggesting any literal legal liability. There might
be in some scenario, but is there something schools need
to be doing there, even if they don't care about
the safety of the kids, just to try to protect themselves. Dan,
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encouraging school walkout is third degree child abuse. Second text
we've received on this. I'll pull up that statute during
the break. I don't do criminal work. I do all
catastrophic injury and death cases. So I'll look at that
statute again during the break. I've always felt that on
a moral level, it is child abuse for teachers to
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lock kids out of school for their own political reasons
or encourage kids to leave school for the teacher's own
political ideology or I've always felt that was child abuse morally.
I've always felt it was dereliction of duty, abandonment of
the children, abandonment of duty. But it's a tactic we've
seen the left use over and over again.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Yeah. Dan, I think they would see it as their
free speech, right? And we'd be better off teaching them
a full perspective of the civics in this matter rather
than trying to convince them. By telling them that everybody
that's being deported is a criminal when it may be
a relative they know is not a criminal. I appreciate
that serious, thoughtful text. I disagree with parts of it.
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We'll come back and we'll pick it up there. So
if this is real, underline if, and not just blowing
smoke by organizers and 160 schools are going to have
big walkouts, what should the consequence be? You're on the
Dan Kaplan Show.
For all these kids across the state who apparently at
over 100 high schools and middle schools across Colorado plan
to walk out of class on Friday, September 4, as
part of a protest demanding that ICE agents stay away.
So an anti-ICE protest. Over 100 schools. I'm about to
give you many, not all on the list. And so
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this is apparently being sponsored by the Colorado Youth Coalition,
whatever that is. as well as the Brown Berets of Tepetlan, T-E-P-E-T-L-A-N,
the Denver People's March, 50501 Colorado, Pulse Colorado, No Concentration
Camps in Colorado, and General Strike U.S. So according to Westward,
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those are the sponsoring groups. And so let me give
you a partial list of the schools where students are
planning to participate in the walkout. Now, this list is
according to Colorado Youth Coalition, which says more are expected
to join. So I'll just give you a flavor, and
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we're blessed with an audience from throughout the state and beyond.
So we'll not limit it to the front range area.
Alamosa High School, Arvada West, and there are others beyond
what I'm about to give you here. Aurora Science and
Tech High School. So I guess they've learned all they
need to about science and tech. Cherokee Trail, Eagle Crest, Grandview, Hinkley, Overland, Rangeview,
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Smoky Hill, among others. Boulder High, Fairview High, New Vista
High School, Broomfield High, Holy Family High School. Now, that's
interesting to me. It'd be interesting to see because that's
just a tremendous high school. Very interesting to me to
see how many kids walk out from there. Beautiful Carbondale.
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And if you have not been in the Roaring Fork Valley,
Roaring Fork High School, according to the Colorado Youth Coalition,
Castle View High School, Douglas County High School, Renaissance Secondary School,
Arapahoe High School is on the list. Now, again, this
is just the list provided by this group. You know,
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who knows what schools are, what schools aren't. But I'm
passing along the information here. We do have a whole
bunch of high schools in beautiful Colorado Springs, including Cheyenne Mountain-Doherty,
Palmer Ridge, and others. And then I want to bring
you up to Commerce City. Yeah, Adams City High School
is on this list. Now, Denver, you get into Denver.
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Abraham Lincoln High School, DeAvalyn, Denver School of the Arts, Dr.
Martin Luther King Jr., early college. I mean, the Denver
list is so long. It's, you know, East High School
is on this list. John F. Kennedy. And then it
says Mullen High School as well. That'll be interesting to see.
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And then the list goes on and on and on
from there, listing many schools from around the state, Poudre
High School up in Fort Collins. And yeah, and we'll
add others as we go through the show. We could
spend the whole show naming all 100 again with the
asterisk that But again, this is what the group putting
the march on, the kids leaving school on September 4
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on is claiming. So what do you think? What kind
of consequences should there be for these schools? I know
on another list I saw somewhere it included Cherry Creek
High School. And I don't know whether that's accurate or not.
But what should a responsible school do here? Obviously, a
school can't physically force a student to stay in the school.
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But what should the consequence be? If the school is
being run responsibly, what should the consequence be for the
kids who walk out of school to protest ICE? 303-713-8255.
Would love your thoughts on that. D-A-N-5-7-7-3-9. So that'll be
our lead and our overarch today. Much more that we
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need to talk about as well. I do want to
talk with you about, because we talk about AI and
the coming impact of AI, because I really think we're
in a 9-10 mentality when it comes to what the
impact on Colorado from AI is going to be, you know,
on jobs and income, et cetera, societal disruption. But I
want to go through a list of degrees safest from AI.
(04:30):
Got another list today that I really want you to hear.
Cars you are least likely to die in. So all
of that is going to be on the list today
as well, which brings me to this constant reminder that
I often on the show often offer on the show.
And that is, please remember, I mean, because the left
has undermined law enforcement in Colorado to the point where
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there just isn't that much enforcement on the roadways. Right.
So it's like Thunderdome and you have the killers out
there kind of ruling the roadways. No fault of law enforcement.
But my point is this. You can no longer go
when the light turns green. If you're the lead car,
you've got to look both ways when the light turns
green because so many people are running red lights. And
(05:14):
that advice has saved lives. I know it saved our
daughter's life. I've seen the video. Got the video of
this trucker, you know, running a red light at probably 70,
80 miles an hour in a 35 as our daughter
was sitting at the green and about to leave. But
I constantly preach at dinner. So you can imagine how
exciting our dinner tables are. Do not go when the
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light turns green. So yeah, Colorado has become that whack
on the roadway. So we've got all of that ahead
today and much, much more. So yeah, what should the
consequence be for those kids who walk out of school
for this big ICE protest on September 4th? Or maybe
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you're in that camp that says, hey, they're kids, let
them go. You know, it's their time in life, right
or wrong, to just sort of, you know, spread their
wings and and their voice, et cetera. And I'd also
ask schools to think about, I'm not suggesting, I've never
seen a case that suggests there are any legal liability
for schools here, but if you're just going to let kids,
and it may be age dependent, just kind of wander
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off campus without any effort to really restrain them or
convince them not to, I'm not saying you can lock
them in or chain them to their chairs, though that
did happen to me. That did happen to me in
fifth grade. Okay. When Sister Aunt Felice, who is a saint, gosh,
what a wonderful, wonderful nun, and I owe her so
very much. But she did at one point, if I
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remember right, I think I was tied to that chair
for the day. But who could blame her, right? 303-713-8255, D-A-N-57739. Well,
we'll touch on it today, and we'll be talking about
it a lot as we get closer to Election Day.
But we do have to talk about it. this income
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tax ballot measure that's been put on. Voters are going
to vote on it. It obviously comes from the left,
and it would dramatically increase, you know, income tax rates
in Colorado for higher earners. And, you know, you really do,
and I don't ask this facetiously, you sit back and
you have to ask, are they trying to just take
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that next step and destroy the state economically? Because I've
talked about this a lot, and you know what's true.
This state, with all the natural advantages we've been given,
we should be leading the world or at least in
the top five cities in the world, states in the world,
you know, when it comes to everything good. Instead, we're
(07:43):
fighting for scraps here and we're doing about as poorly
as a state that's blessed with as much as we
are could possibly be doing right. You look at every
category of bad and it just keeps going up and
most categories of good keep going down. You have to
work at it to make that happen with a place
like this. You know, we're not in the middle of Arkansas.
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God love Arkansas and I'm sure he does. You know,
we're not Des Moines, Iowa and they're doing great things
in Des Moines, Iowa. But we've got all these advantages
and the left seems to be intent on just screwing
it up. But if you just sat down and you
mapped out a plan, okay, how do we really hurt
the working people in this state? How do we really,
(08:26):
really hurt the working people in this state? You could
not come up with a more effective approach to that
than the one the left is taking now, which starts
by screw their kids, okay? Here's the way we undermine
working people. We screw their kids, and we make sure
they don't get true school choice, they don't get fair
(08:48):
opportunity in education so that they can't fulfill their full
economic potential. So first thing we do to screw the
working people is we screw their kids. And the left
is doing that, unfortunately, very effectively. If you're the left
and you want to screw working people, the second thing
we do is let's take money away from their employers.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
That's how the left's perverted worldview. That's how we screw
the working people. That's how we keep people down. Let's
take money away from their employers. How's that going to
work out for working people? Yeah, no, let's raise the
taxes dramatically on their employers so their employers have less money.
(09:33):
And the left's thinking, yeah, we can fool people into thinking, oh,
that just means that they're not going to be able
to buy a fancy car or they're not going to
be able to buy a boat. But what the left
knows is those employers, they're going to buy their fancy car.
They're going to buy their boat. They're going to buy
their bigger house and they shouldn't be begrudged at. What
they're going to do is they're going to cut back
(09:53):
on their employees. They're going to have fewer and they're
going to pay them less and they're going to give
them fewer benefits. And that's what the left is doing
to the working people in this state by raising taxes
on their employers. So why do you think the left
wants to do that? You tell me. I'll tell you
what I think. 303-713-8255. D-A-N-5-7-7-3-9. You're on the Dan Kaplan Show.
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I know there were over 80 witnesses. There were over
300 exhibits.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
But because of that, I'm going to ask you to
go back out, keeping in mind all the instructions that
I gave you, to go out and to continue your
deliberations at this time.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
And so with.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
That, I'm going to ask you to go back out.
Like I said, keep in mind the instructions I gave you,
reviewing the evidence, and I'd ask you to resume your
deliberations at this time.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Okay. Jack sounds like a cool guy. He instructed the
jury again after that. And can you imagine what it's
like in the Lindsay Clancy deliberations? I mean, you're into what,
day five at this point? I mean, there's not much
new to talk about. So you've got the one group
saying she strangled her three children. And you've got the
(11:14):
other person or group saying, yeah, but she was out
of her mind. I mean... what are they talking about
in there other than that? You know, maybe they're going
back and reviewing particular pieces of evidence, but I think
it's pretty clear at this point, they are deeply, deeply deadlocked.
So I'll let you know if something changes on that today, 303-713-8255,
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the number D A N 5 7 7 3 9.
So lots to go over here. I do want to
get you this list of the 10 cars you're least
likely to die in. So, I've told you before on
this show, I really like statistics from the Insurance Institute
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for Highway Safety. And maybe when you're getting a car,
you know, you go online and you look for crash
test results. And you could look at the government results,
and that's okay. That's useful information. But I like the
Insurance Institute results because they got skin in the game.
I mean, from a dollar standpoint, the insurance industry wants
you in the safest cars. And I think that's awesome.
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So I like to look at their statistics. So they're
now saying that the smaller vehicles, the high-horsepower sports cars,
remain disproportionately dangerous. Obviously, right. But then they are now
publishing a list of the safest vehicles on the road,
those with the lowest death rates. Now, it's not going
(12:38):
to be any surprise to you that out of the 25,
that they list 18 are SUVs. Makes sense, right? Just
the size, weight advantage. You know, a lot of these
SUVs have the advanced structural engineering, you know, larger platforms,
superior real world crash outcomes. And that's what I look at, right?
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Because I've been That's been my real job for the
past 43 years now is representing victims in these really
horrific crash cases. So I get a firsthand look at
how vehicles hold up in these crashes. And it's always
so stunning and heartbreaking, et cetera, to me that the
type of vehicle you're in is going to make such
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a dramatic difference to the outcome. And, you know, listen,
the person who ran the red light or was driving
drunk or the trucker did something crazy, yet they're the
cause of the crash. But to the extent, I always
tell people this, humanly possible, and I know we all
got to pay bills and everything else, but humanly possible,
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just do everything you can to get in one of
the safest cars possible. It makes such a dramatic difference
in the outcome. And that can be used cars, too,
because we're in a nice spot now where Big safety
improvements started roughly about 10 years ago. And so you
can get some pretty good and low-priced used cars that
have tremendous crash worthiness. And we can get into the
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engineering minutiae if you want. But I like this list.
It's a good starting point for the conversation. So we'll
just start with the top 10 now in the interest
of time. And I've got some other topics we're doing.
And I'll be taking texts and calls soon on our
overarch topic today, which is, You know, what should a
responsible school tell the students who are planning to participate
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in this walkout to protest ICE that's going on in
Colorado middle and high schools on September 4th? What kind
of consequence should there be from the school if the
students do walk out? So 303-713-8255 for calls on that text. D-A-N-5-7-7-3-9. Interesting.
Volkswagen Atlas... is 10th safest car. Now, I'm not familiar
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with this particular car. It's a midsize SUV. Toyota RAV4,
the four-wheel drive prime version, is tied for ninth safest.
The BMW X5 four-wheel drive at number eight. The Porsche
Macan at number seven, and that's Porsche's I call midsize,
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it's kind of small to midsize SUV, the Porsche Macan.
The Toyota Tundra Crewmax four-wheel drive comes in at sixth safest.
Mercedes-Benz GLE class two-wheel drive, that comes in tied for fifth.
But here's one thing that confuses me in their methodology,
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driver death rate zero. So if your driver death rate
is zero, how are you tied for fifth? In any case,
that's what they list in. And one thing I'd say
about Mercedes just from all these decades of handling catastrophic
injury and death crashes for victims, what I'd say is
just seeing it real world, I don't know how anybody
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tops a Mercedes in terms of crash worthiness. I'm not
saying there aren't other cars just as safe, but my goodness,
we've seen in so many different big crashes. It can
be an older Mercedes, this or that. You want to
check the model. But Mercedes overall, I think, You know, very, very,
very safe. And I know all of our first thought is, yeah,
but very, very, very, very expensive. And I think what
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we find when we go and look at Kelly and
other sources is that, yeah, very expensive right off the lot.
But like a lot of luxury cars, pretty big depreciation early,
pretty big depreciation over time. But, you know, what's not
depreciating is the structural integrity of that vehicle. So if
you go out and let's say you're going to buy
a 10-year-old Mercedes for all those safety features, yeah, you're
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not getting the benefit of some of the electronic improvements
in the last few years, such as lane change warning
and control and stuff like that. But you're still getting,
depending on the model, some really good structural integrity. I
was glad to see number three and a little surprised
by it. Now, I've driven Tahos for a lot of years.
I don't have one at the moment, but I've driven
a lot of Tahos over a lot of years. And
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Tahoe came in at number three. Obviously, you know, the
big heavy body on frame, the mass, all that's going
to help. But they also have some good safety stuff
in the Tahoe. Number two, BMW X7. So a little
bit larger, obviously, than the X5. And number one, the
Audi Q7. And again, that's a... mid to larger size SUV. So, listen,
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that's not to the exclusion of some other safe cars
out there. But if you have any other thoughts on that,
please do let me know. 303-713-8255, D-A-N-57739. When we come back,
the call to text. What should schools do to the
kids walking out in Colorado to protest ICE? This is
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being organized statewide. I went through some of the groups
behind it in the first segment. I'll revisit that in
a minute. But, yeah, so it's interesting, right? It's the
Friday before the start of the Labor Day weekend. But
if a school is a good, responsible school, what consequence
will they have? Can't change kids to the desk, but
what consequence would they have? 303-713-8255, DAN-57739, texters.com. Dan, Holy
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Family wrote parents yesterday saying they do not know why
they are on the list and they as a school
do not condone walkouts. So it makes me question the
entire list. Yes, I think you should question the list.
As I talked about earlier, the list is being provided
by the organizing groups. So it may be a wish list. Now,
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we know the kind of tradition in Denver, I mean,
you know, because it's lefty controlled and everything else, and
the kids are encouraged to just stream out over any issue,
no consequence, except for innocent people on the street. I mean,
remember what happened to John Adsit, courageous Denver police officer,
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you know, who was run down just trying to protect
the kids who had flooded out of East High School
to protest something, and he's run over. and horrifically injured,
and he's courageously battled those injuries. I mean, so there
are consequences for others out there. And, you know, full disclosure, friend,
John Edson is, and I've had the privilege of representing him.
But it's, yeah, so there are a lot of consequences
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for a lot of people when schools just let kids
flood outside, and obviously danger created for the students themselves.
So should the schools try to stop them? If so,
how would you do that? Is there a difference? between
the middle school kids? Because a lot of middle schools
are on this list. But again, a lot of this
list may be just wishful thinking by the organizers on
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the left. 303-713-8255, DAN 57739. I think there have to
be consequences. If nothing else, I mean, first there should be.
But if nothing else, that's part of the education here. That, okay, listen,
if your principles are so strong that these people who
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are protecting you and your community, which ICE is doing,
that somehow you should be out there protesting them instead
of protesting these lefties, you know, who are jeopardizing your
health and safety and the community and getting people here
raped and murdered. by just encouraging all people in the
world to come to Colorado illegally? You know, if you
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really want to walk out and protest the good guys,
then you know what? You need to pay a price
for breaking the rules to stand on principle. If schools don't,
no matter how wrong the principle may be, if schools
don't make kids pay a price for that, they're once
again failing the kids. I think they're failing the kids by,
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not doing everything they can to discourage them leaving, but
they're really failing the kids if there isn't a really
significant consequence. And, yes, I can say really more than
twice in the same sentence. So what should that consequence be? Dan,
if school walkouts are approved by the education departments, there
is initially nothing that can be done. Kids like to
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support their teachers and schools, Bob and Arvada. And that's
one of the questions we don't have answered at this point.
Are these walkouts being actually endorsed and approved by certain schools,
by certain teachers? What should the consequence be for a
teacher if a teacher is encouraging kids to walk out? 303-713-8255,
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the number. Dan, there won't be any consequences for these
budding revolutionaries. 90% of their teachers and administrators are woke communists.
This is the birth. of the American Cultural Revolution. I
don't think so. I don't think that's what's going on
here at all. I think one thing we've seen traditionally
is that kids like to walk out, that they like
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to walk out for, quote, cool causes, for causes that
their classmates believe in. Even if they don't believe in
the cause, they like the idea of walking out of school.
They like the idea of not being ostracized because they're
not part of the group walking out of school. We've
seen this phenomena for a long, long time. So I
don't read too much into it. I think that one
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of the really encouraging things, one of the reasons I'm
so optimistic about the future, and you're seeing it show
up in the polls in lots of other ways, is
so many kids get it at a younger age than
they used to. And I know that social media has
its downsides, and this digital age has its downsides, but
it also has upsides in terms of access to information.
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And I think there are many more kids than you
would think who understand that most of the people coming
into the country legally are not people who've committed other
serious crimes. But with the open borders, there are a
dangerous number of people who've come into the country legally
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who are rapists, who are murderers, who are dangerous, and
that ICE is protecting us. By keeping them out and
rounding up those who are here who have committed other crimes.
I think there are more kids than we would realize
who get that. And who get that the left is
wrong on so many other things. So, no, I don't
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think this signals any big revolution. My guess is, and
I can't prove it. I don't have subpoena power. I
haven't done that investigation. But my guess is you have
the usual gang of suspect groups on the left funded
by the usual people who are behind this. or largely
behind it. I wouldn't be surprised if there are just
some well-intentioned, and I put that in quotes, you know,
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organic type student groups that have risen up to also
endorse this. But one way or the other, there have
to be consequences. What should that consequence be? And somebody
tell me, right, because our kids now have been out
of high school for a little bit. Do they still
do detentions? If they don't, maybe it's a good time
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to restart them. But I think if a kid walks
out of school, the kid should have to have a
consequence at least equal to an additional day in school.
I don't know what form that would take depending on
the school, but I think it should be at least that.
You know, what other consequences would you imagine here? And
what consequence for a teacher who encourages kids to leave
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the schools? We've talked about this before on the show,
and we played some of the tape of teacher's plotting
to shut down schools in order to make their own
political points, actually trying to freeze kids out of school,
deprive kids of their education so the teachers could make
some political points. It seems to me there have to
(25:03):
be some pretty significant consequences within the educational system, some
kind of something for these teachers. I mean, they... something
in their file, something within the process for these teachers.
If they are going to actively interfere with these kids
(25:28):
getting educated, my own suggestion of the consequence would be
at least a note in their file. So the next
school that's thinking about hiring them knows they're hiring somebody
who is willing to interfere with the kid's education in
order to make a political point. And Kyle in Fort Collins,
I think the administration should cancel school on the walkout day.
(25:50):
Don't give them the satisfaction. I love that creativity. And
it is the Friday before Labor Day, but obviously we
don't want to deprive all the other kiddos of their
education on that day. And I just think that, you know,
it's so easy for all of us. I fall into
it sometimes. It's so easy to just sort of lump
things together. I don't think any of us now can
(26:11):
look at say, middle school kids or high school kids
or college kids. There's no such thing. Just like people
say the jury, that there's no such thing that there are,
you know, because I am so grateful to be a
trial lawyer and been a trial lawyer for 43 years. And,
you know, you hear people talk or write books about
the jury, this, the jury, that. No, you've got, say,
(26:34):
in a civil case, you've got six different individuals who
comprise that jury. And if you're not very attuned to that,
you're not going to be able to to do your job. Well,
same thing with schools. You know, there's so many kids,
so many kids who are so different and so much
more conservatism in so many of these schools. Now, many
(26:56):
of them may not be willing to come out and
say it, you know, because they don't want to be ostracized.
And congratulations, Colorado natives over 50. You let the left
capture the youth. And we'll cut the final thread when
you keep voting for Lopez in protest, losers. Listen, Greg
Lopez is not going to determine the outcome of this
(27:19):
election for governor in Colorado. It's just not going to happen.
And I like Greg, as I've talked about often. I've
had him on air often. I had him on air
when he was a GOP candidate pulling a lot of votes.
He didn't win the nomination, but he pulled a lot
of votes. And I just... I just don't get this
one because Greg can only, in my view, hurt the
(27:41):
GOP candidate. But Greg isn't going to decide the outcome
of this election. We all know for any statewide candidate
in Colorado, any GOP statewide candidate in Colorado, the key
is going to be whether that candidate catches fire to
the point where they can then attract the money and
get the momentum back. in order to be able to
(28:05):
win statewide in a blue state. That's what it's going
to take. So whether we're talking about governor, senator, attorney general, treasurer,
it's going to take that particular Republican candidate catching fire.
That's what's going to have to happen. And, you know,
we've talked a lot about the potential for that in
the attorney general's race because of the fact Jenna Griswold
(28:27):
on the other side is so deeply flawed and unqualified.
And the GOP has a very qualified nominee. So the
potential is there in that race for that candidate to
catch fire. But that's what it's going to take in
every race. And we'll find out together if it's going
to happen. You're on The Dan Kaplan Show. Are they
(28:48):
hoping that if they put that word out, it will
become a self-fulfilling prophecy? Or is it another one of
these deals where you get all these well-funded lefty groups
that come together and they use social media to just
cause a lot of trouble? And so big questions for you.
What should the consequence be for kids who walk out? Well,
(29:09):
if you're running the school that these kids walk out of,
what is the consequence? Do you try to stop them, like,
physically from walking out? I think that's fraught with peril.
But what should that consequence be? Or let's say some
teachers get behind it and encourage kids to walk out
of their own school. What do you think should happen there?
Let me get to some text on this, DAN57739. Dan,
(29:32):
regarding a consequence for students walking out to protest ICE,
I would require an assignment regarding... The legality and purpose
of ISIS. and immigration for anyone walks. And it would
be based on grade level for difficulty and would be
completed at school with mandatory presentation. Could probably sell the
cable rights to that presentation. Don't you think that would
(29:53):
be something to see Dan? Um, I always mention the
officer who got run over near East High School and
the hands up, don't shoot farce. You know, I did
mention earlier that these walkouts have grave safety dangers. And
we saw it play out in real time when a
tremendous Denver police officer, John Adsit, who was just out
(30:17):
there as part of the bike patrol. He's out there
trying to protect these kids and he gets run over
by a car. And almost killed. It's truly miraculous that
he lived. It's hard to find a more courageous person.
Everything he has fought through just to live and to
try to recover and his beautiful family and everything that
they've been through together. And he's now a friend. And
(30:40):
I've had the privilege of representing him, which is how
I know so much about his story. But even before
I met him, you know, I, like lots of other Coloradans,
went and stood outside his hospital room in the park
outside Denver Health saying prayers for him. before I met him,
you know, because there is grave danger in these walkouts.
And John Adsett paid the price for that. Dan, from
(31:03):
a public safety standpoint, canceling school is preferred. Now, that's
a serious comment worth real consideration. If this is real
on the kind of scale the organizers are claiming, and
not just blown smoke, then should you just cancel school
to avoid the safety issue of all these kids flooding
(31:24):
the streets? I don't like that precedent myself, but I
do err on the side of safety when it comes
to kids. Like, you'll never hear me on air griping
about school closures for snow and ice because there is
a real safety danger to those kids, you know, when
they're out there on these slippery, icy, snowy-type days, it's
(31:47):
not that they can't handle the cold or anything like that.
It's just the danger tied to motor vehicles. And so
that's why I never gripe about that. So what do
you think? Do you think the schools should just be
canceled if this is going to be a large-scale series
of walkouts? I would come down against that for a
lot of different reasons, including the obligation– to the kids
(32:11):
who want their education and take it seriously and want
to be in school that day. I think I'd send
a very bad message to just cancel school. I appreciate
the good intentions of the text. Dan, schedule a test
equal to 75% of the total grade. That period with
no makeup tests. I love this. One of the things
I love most about talk radio is, you know, you
(32:34):
get so many great ideas like I never would have
thought of. That's a tremendous idea. Okay, 75% of the grade.
I know it's just the Friday before Labor Day, but yeah,
we're going to do 75% of the grade on Friday. Dan,
there must be a parental permission slip to walk out. Interesting.
(32:54):
Or is this third-degree child abuse? See, there is that
safety issue. Again, from a safety standpoint, and I'm not
analyzing this from a literal liability standpoint, but... Is there
potential liability for schools that don't at least try to
keep the kids in school? I'm not suggesting there is
because certainly for these public schools, and I cannot imagine
(33:17):
any private schools are participating, but for the public schools,
you've got governmental immunity and you've got those layers of protection.
So I'm not suggesting any literal legal liability. There might
be in some scenario, but is there something schools need
to be doing there, even if they don't care about
the safety of the kids, just to try to protect themselves. Dan,
(33:39):
encouraging school walkout is third degree child abuse. Second text
we've received on this. I'll pull up that statute during
the break. I don't do criminal work. I do all
catastrophic injury and death cases. So I'll look at that
statute again during the break. I've always felt that on
a moral level, it is child abuse for teachers to
(33:59):
lock kids out of school for their own political reasons
or encourage kids to leave school for the teacher's own
political ideology or I've always felt that was child abuse morally.
I've always felt it was dereliction of duty, abandonment of
the children, abandonment of duty. But it's a tactic we've
seen the left use over and over again.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Yeah. Dan, I think they would see it as their
free speech, right? And we'd be better off teaching them
a full perspective of the civics in this matter rather
than trying to convince them. By telling them that everybody
that's being deported is a criminal when it may be
a relative they know is not a criminal. I appreciate
that serious, thoughtful text. I disagree with parts of it.
(34:44):
We'll come back and we'll pick it up there. So
if this is real, underline if, and not just blowing
smoke by organizers and 160 schools are going to have
big walkouts, what should the consequence be? You're on the
Dan Kaplan Show.
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