September 2, 2026 • 34 mins
The streets of Colorado are becoming increasingly lawless, with recent incidents of mob rule and vandalism leaving many wondering what's behind the lack of action from authorities. This episode, the speaker delves into the complexities of the issue, discussing the role of political will and the need for accountability. A former police officer shares his insights on the matter, highlighting the importance of respecting the law and the consequences of not doing so.
The conversation also touches on the topic of abortion, as a prominent actress makes a case for its glorification on national TV. The speaker breaks down the arguments presented, drawing parallels to the pro-slavery movement and highlighting the illogical and flawed reasoning behind them. This discussion sparks a broader conversation about the values and priorities of the modern Democratic Party, with some arguing that a toxic focus on individualism and self-interest has led to a disregard for human life and dignity.
The episode also features a caller who makes a poignant point about the hypocrisy of the left, comparing their treatment of animals to their stance on abortion. This conversation raises questions about the morality and ethics of the abortion debate and the need for a more nuanced discussion.
If you're interested in exploring these complex issues and hearing more about the speaker's thoughts on the matter, tune in to this episode to hear the full discussion and insights from a former police officer and a caller who challenges the status quo.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Complex area, storm through a King Soopers, a lot of looting.
You know, Burger King took over Burger King as well.
Don't blame law enforcement. Law enforcement, you know, they would
love to enforce the law. It's about political will. And
then in Denver, Sunday night, another shutdown. This at 10th
and Broadway, you know, where, again, big gang of largely teens,
(00:21):
but other people just shut down the roadways. you know,
just so they could drag race and do other stuff
on the roadways that they wanted to do. It's like
broken windows, right? That's why it's called the broken window theory.
You cannot allow a broken window to go unfixed or
else the whole neighborhood falls apart. So how do you mechanically,
how do you stop this? I know you need the
(00:43):
political will first, but mechanically, how do you stop this?
And we're also talking about Anne Hathaway today. Yeah, very successful,
as you know, popular Hollywood, actress who was on The
View and pronouncing abortion to be such a great and
glorious thing. And again, the parallels to slavery are unavoidable
(01:06):
and screamingly obvious because people were doing the same thing
as they advocated for slavery and supported slavery and endorsed
slavery and even fought for slavery. They were making the
exact same kind of arguments. So we'll break down This
stuff from Anne Hathaway again in a second. And then
I do want to quiz you on household gun ownership
(01:28):
across the USA. You know, which states do you think
have the highest and lowest rates? Where do you think
Colorado falls? I've got the list in front of me.
Let's start with Chris. You're on the Dan Kaplan Show. Welcome, Chris. Yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
How are you doing?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
I'm living the dream. How about you?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Same here. I retired after 34 years on the department.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I rode the motorcycles for 21 years. I escorted every
president from 2000 to 2021, including every vice president. It
was a hell of a time. I had the best
time of my life.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Was this Denver?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I'm sorry?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
DPD or a different department? Denver Police Department? Yeah, yeah,
I thought so. Yeah, with all those presidential barricades.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
It was amazing. And the first thing you learn is
we had to go through a two-week course. First week,
we had to do patterns and all kinds of stuff.
And then the second week, escort. And you learn to
respect that bike. Because I'll tell you, the first second
you don't, you're done. And guys don't have respect for
their bikes. They don't have respect for people. It's insane,
(02:40):
and you're right about the political powers. If they wanted to,
they could shut it down, but they don't want to.
I don't understand why not.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah, I think we got a taste of that in
that Channel 7 story I'll play again where it was
a Democrat who proposed a law to crack down on
all this. And then other Democrats said, no, it might
be culturally prejudicial in its application. So just– I think
that the powers that be in the Democratic Party, and
this is not a reflection on everyday Democrats, but I
(03:12):
think they just truly want to protect criminals. They feel
that enforcement of the criminal laws has disproportionately hurt people
of color, so they don't want criminal laws enforced.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I agree. Yeah. Well, thanks for your service, man. Hey,
what's your favorite story from a presidential escort?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Oh, it's amazing. We escorted Trump, Biden, everybody.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Obama. Yeah. That's got to be a rush.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
They all shook hands with us.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
That's got to be fun. That's got to be a rush. Well, hey, man,
really appreciate it. Thanks for your service, Chris.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
No, thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
You take care. Appreciate you calling the show. And as
long as I live, feel free to turn the radio
off for this. Maybe forever if you've heard this story before,
but I can't stop telling it. We were... Dave, did
I ever tell you the story about Amy and Bill
Clinton and the presidential motorcade? So it's a summer day.
(04:16):
Can't remember the year. It had to be, you know,
early 90s. Well, no, we were married. We got married
in 94. And so... We hear that Clinton is going
to be coming out south here. So we go out
onto Bellevue to wait for the motorcade. Warm summer days,
so Amy's in short shorts. Appropriate, but short shorts and
a beautiful woman. And then we have our dog out
(04:38):
there with us. And we're the only people on Bellevue
because it's middle of the afternoon. But we're patriotic. We
want to see the president. So the motorcade comes by.
And then here's Clinton. And he's just staring at her.
As the motorcade comes by, which is fine, to be expected,
it's flattering. But then as it goes by, he turns
(05:00):
in his seat and continues to stare at Amy. And
I couldn't even get mad about it, right? That's a
real compliment. The leader of the free world, you know,
just turning around in his seat like a teenager to
ogle your wife. Yeah. What'd she think? What did I think?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
She.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Oh, she, um... I like how you qualify the short
shorts being appropriate. Oh, they were. Yeah. She's not. Yeah.
And that was, that was, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
No, very appropriate, but she's not very attractive. Of course.
I would think nothing less. And I would think nothing
less for you to have an attractive wife. How did
she feel about that? You know, she was not offended. Yeah.
I mean, I, I'm sure there are so many women listening.
She's certainly one of them with, they're just used to
guys kind of ogling them. And, and, you know, it
was the president. So it's hard to get to.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Now, if she walked into the studio right now, she
would deny it, you know, just because she she's so
modest and she just doesn't want to talk about herself
that way. But it happened. Oh, it happened. Look at you, Dan.
I'm not surprised a bit.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yes. Anyway, any excuse to tell that story? So how
do we do it? How do we stop this mob rule?
And then I'll get to this Anne Hathaway craziness. Dan,
those are Anne Hathaway comments. I'll get to those after
I play the tape. Yeah, then we've got some more
(06:35):
just unanimous against this whole lane-splitting nonsense that the left
has pushed in Colorado and all the dangers that come
from it. So let me get to this Anne Hathaway sound.
This is on The View. And this is Anne Hathaway
advocating abortion, glorifying abortion, promoting abortion. Now, my premise, as
you listen to this, and I'll play it all the
(06:56):
way through, and then I'll come back and break it
down one by one, because her arguments are so easily destroyed,
flipped on her, and compared almost word for word to
the arguments made in favor of slavery back during that
horrific era. But first, my belief is you're hearing... I
believe a woman in pain, I think you're hearing someone
(07:18):
who likely had one or more abortions and now deeply
regrets it. And she's trying to rationalize it, that that's
what I think we're listening to, because she is objectively,
she's an intelligent woman. And I can't imagine any other
scenario where she'd be making such arguments that are obviously illogical,
fatally flawed logically and medically so easily defeated unless she
(07:42):
was trying to do what I think all of us
do at some times, and that is try to rationalize
something we've done wrong. When you are a.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Young woman starting out your career, your reproductive destiny matters
a great deal. My own personal experience with abortion, and
I don't think we talk about this enough, abortion can
be another word for mercy.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
We don't know. We don't know.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
It's not a world in which we know that no
two pregnancies are alike and it follows that no two
lives are like that follows that no two conceptions are alike.
So how can we have a law? How can we
have a point of view on this that says we
must treat everything the same?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Because what is the same is that's always an innocent
human life being killed, no matter what. the rationale is
that led to it. That's what's always the same, Anne,
in each and every case. And again, it's the argument
that was made in favor of slavery. Well, you know,
(08:38):
no two situations are the same. No two plantations are
the same. You know, some people can afford to make
it without slavery. Some people can't. And we're really just,
and I'm talking about the twisted arguments that were made
in favor of slavery back in the day. And it's
really an act of mercy to the slave because, said
the slaveholders, the slaves could never exist on their own.
(08:58):
These are all the same arguments that were made to
advance slavery. And, you know, that's what you have now.
Just trying to rationalize doing something wrong by trying to
get others to do the same thing.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Where I come at it from is when you allow
for choice, you allow for flexibility, which is what we
need in order to be human.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Wow. Let's break that down. It won't take long. Again,
same arguments made for for slavery. Hey, North, you don't
want slavery. Don't have slaves, right? And the North was saying, well, no,
wait a second. This is fundamental morality. You can't be imprisoning.
You can't be putting humans in chains to serve you.
(09:45):
And so that's the same argument being made here by, oh, no,
we need flexibility. We need the flexibility to kill other
lives if we don't want those other lives to exist.
That's what she's saying. And again, she's such a high
intelligent person. It must be an effort to rationalize what
she's done that that's just blinding her to how fatally
(10:09):
flawed all these arguments are. You're on the Dan Kaplan show.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
I reject your guys' sympathy, to be honest with you.
There's no way you guys are sorry. Not one of
you guys have ever called me. Not one of you
guys have ever reached out to me. Not one of
you guys have ever sat there and seen me in
the hallways and said, hey, sorry about your daughter. You
guys do it right here while you guys are grandstanding
on top of your soapbox. This is when you guys care.
Right here inside this room is the only time you
guys care. I've never received anything from anybody over here
(10:40):
at all regarding my daughter or my family or anything.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Hey, Mr.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
Coleman, you guys is Delilah Long. I want to help
you revise this so that we were interested inside of it.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Nothing.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
You guys have no pathway to anything. You guys want
to sit there and talk about the pathway to citizenship.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
There is a pathway. It's not jump the fence and apply.
That's not the way it goes. Powerful. Powerful. 303-713-8255, D-A-N-57739.
I just never heard that phrase before. I reject your sympathy.
Really powerful. Hey, we're talking about mob rule in Colorado
in these lefty control areas. We're seeing more and more
(11:17):
of it, including the latest in Aurora, takeover of a
King Soopers, etc. Don't blame law enforcement. They're doing the
best they can with it. It's about political will. And
in Denver, another big street takeover. We played that Channel
7 story. We will again. And then we're breaking down
Anne Hathaway going on national TV today on The View
to glorify and promote abortion. And her arguments in favor
(11:41):
of it are so easily exposed and defeated that it's
actually useful to have her do this because everybody is making,
I'm sure in their own head, is dissecting her arguments themselves.
But it's good to do it together as well. So
I'll go through. We'll take it point by point. In
the meantime... We'll go to the phones. Oswaldo, you're on
(12:03):
the Dan Kaplis show.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Welcome. How are you, Senor Kaplis?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I am great, my friend. How are you?
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Long time listener. I really admire your career and your show.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Thank you. You keep it for so long.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Thank you. That's very kind.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
I just want to make a comment. Look, every being means,
including animals, has the right to born and flourish, regardless
of the conditions, right? I'm just thinking as a humanitarian.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Well, certainly human beings. I do think that God gave
us animals, humanely, you know, to be able to subsist
and to eat, etc. But certainly, humane treatment of animals.
But go ahead, my friend.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Well, I just want to kind of round out my
point of view. That's my point of view. Human beings
exist under different conditions, regardless of the origin of the
country or whatever they come from.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
But we have to respect a limit.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
And I'm not talking about religion. I'm not talking about
even science. Because when a conception happens, again, don't get
me wrong, it's not religious, but I think we all
deserve to be born and be happy and express and evolve.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
So when the laws apply to.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
People or even the human society that protects animals, they say, well,
this animal has to be euthanized.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I mean, it's.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Got to be law.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
And rules and, of course, subject to interpretation.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
You make such an.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Important point, Oswaldo, because by bringing animals into the conversation,
there's no question many, many, many on the left would
object and take to the streets and want to have
laws passed if you had– A million animals a year,
you know, being slaughtered the way that they advocate, you know,
(14:20):
people should be able to legally kill children each year.
I mean, you're absolutely, I don't know if that's the
point you're trying to make, but it is a very
legitimate point. The left would object to treating animals the
way it wants children treated.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Exactly because of course animals are not the same as
humans but I can mention the what's the name of
this lady that was in charge of the DHS or
whatever the lady from South Dakota why you shoot an
animal for pleasure or that doesn't make sense and when
(15:03):
somebody dares to to pull a trigger or put an
injection on a human being in this case. And they
say the side, the side basically.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Oswaldo, what a great point you make. And I'm sorry
I have to bail for this break, but what a
great point you make about Kristi Noem, that she had
a promising career going and then cricket buried her. I mean,
when she wrote in her book about, You know, shooting
the dog cricket because it created a lot of mischief.
That buried her career, at least at a certain level.
(15:40):
That and a few other things. No, interesting point. Let
me get you that Anne Hathaway sound. There won't be
time to break it down here, so I'll get it
to you all the way through so you can understand
the full context. And we'll come back on the other
side and break down the parallels to the arguments that
were made in support of slavery and just how easily
each of her points is defeated.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
When you are a young woman starting out your career,
your reproductive destiny matters a great deal. My own personal
experience with abortion, and I don't think we talk about
this enough, abortion can be another word for mercy.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
We don't know. We don't know.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
It's not a world in which— we know that no two
pregnancies are alike, and it follows that no two lives
are alike. That follows that no two conceptions are alike.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
How can we have a law? How can we have
a point of view on this that says we must
treat everything the same? And where I come at it
from is when you allow for choice, you allow for flexibility,
which is what we need in order to be human.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
She can't be that stupid. She's not a dumb person.
She's a smart person. So she must be trying to rationalize.
her own abortions, because every circumstance that leads to an
abortion may be different. But what's the same is it's
always an innocent human life being taken. That's not religion.
That's not philosophy. That's medical fact. She she must realize that.
(17:02):
And when she talks early about how. reproductive flexibility so
important early in a career. But, you know, what she's
talking about is that you should be able to take
that other life, particularly earlier in your career, because you
may need that to advance all the same arguments made
in favor of slavery. You know, the parallels are striking.
(17:24):
And another reason why we need to end this.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Streets during the night. This latest one happened on Sunday night.
And now we're hearing from a state legislator about the
solution he believes could work to crack down on this
public safety issue. Engines revving, tires squealing, and frustrated drivers
waiting for the intersection to clear. It's a site becoming
more common in Denver as organized groups take over streets
(17:55):
while racing cars.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
And doing donuts. Yeah, and there's a lack of political
will to stop it. Just like look at this Denver
Post story, Katie Lankford piece about Aurora over the weekend.
And don't blame law enforcement, be it in Denver or Aurora.
They want to enforce law. We're talking political level here. Headline,
500 teen crowd vandalized stole from Aurora Shopping Center, police
say now. This comes back to, you probably see it
(18:19):
on social media, all this video of teens rampaging through
the King Soopers, a King Soopers in Aurora, taking a
bunch of stuff and then doing the same thing in
a Burger King. And the piece starts, a group of
500 teenagers became a, quote, public safety issue at an
Aurora shopping center parking lot. Excuse me. When some of
(18:39):
the teams started vandalizing and stealing things from nearby businesses
on Sunday afternoon, police officials said, the story goes on
to say, Hey, Aurora PD, and I called Aurora PD
yesterday to get more details on this. They ended up
deploying 70 officers out there. So they took it very seriously.
But there's got to be the political will now to
follow up and to get every bit of imagery you
(19:02):
can get off all these videos, not just the ones
on social media, but you can bet. These King Soopers,
they got a lot of video cameras inside and out.
Get every face you can. Track down every person you can.
There's got to be the will to do that. Same
thing in Denver. Same thing in Denver. You know, all
the imaging you can get of faces, license plates, et cetera.
(19:23):
But then, listen, you got to have the political will
to stop this stuff, right? Because if you do, then
law enforcement gets the tools to do its job. And
that includes monitoring social media so you have a heads
up on where these things are going to happen. And
then you infiltrate and then you get out there and
then you either stop them before they happen or you're
able to arrest without causing a riot. you know, some
(19:46):
of the people on scene. But right now, hey, don't
you think it's just effectively a green light, pun intended,
to these mobs? Because they just keep getting away with it.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
So it's at the political level, but obviously it's just
going to keep happening and expanding until You know, these
lefty politicians decide to crack down. 303-713-8255, D-A-N-57739. I do
want to get back to this Anne Hathaway sound, and
I want to take it point by point as she goes,
(20:21):
you know, on the view today to try to advocate
for glorify, justify abortion. And I understand. Before I even
make a single point, you've already picked her argument apart yourself.
But but I think it's worth doing together and I'll
work some text in as well. And I really do
think that this overarching point, it needs to be made
(20:44):
more often that virtually all the arguments you hear in
favor of abortion directly parallel the arguments that were made
in favor of legalized slavery. I mean, because you can
see the common denominator, right, which is treating innocent human
life like somebody's property. But but it was the same
kind of rationale and it was the same thing. You
(21:05):
had often otherwise intelligent people making really dumb, illogical, easily
defeated arguments because they're trying to rationalize doing something evil
for their own benefit. Because a lot of good people
do that, right? At some point, virtually all of us
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have done something wrong because it was good for us
And then we find a way to rationalize it. And
as you listen to Anne Hathaway, that is what she
is doing. Let's take it in my opinion. And she
talks openly about her abortions. And I think she's trying
to rationalize and justify them. And she obviously can't. So
(21:47):
let's take it point by point. When you are a.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Young woman starting out your career, your reproductive destiny matters
a great deal. When you are a young woman starting
out your career, your reproductive destiny matters.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
A great deal. Okay, let's break that down. First of all,
she's not willing to say, when you are a young
woman starting out your career, it's really important that you
have access to abortion. Why isn't she willing to say that?
Because now everybody understands abortion is the taking of an
innocent human life. You know, the big lie of the
(22:18):
left and the abortion movement, that it's a blob of tissue,
has been disproven by ultrasounds and other technology. So now
they just don't use the word. It has to be
reproductive destiny as if somebody is forcing Anne Hathaway to
become pregnant.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Right.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
So it's got to be reproductive destiny. But what she's
saying underneath it clearly is, hey, when you're just starting
out your career, you really have to have the right
to to take this other life so that it doesn't
get in the way of your career. Again, same argument
in favor of slavery, which was, oh, yeah, slaveholder argument.
(22:57):
You know, listen, I've got this small farm. I've got
this plantation. We're just starting out. I've got to be
able to have slaves or we're going to go broke. See,
it's the same. It's the same evil rationale.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
My own personal experience with abortion, and I don't think
we talk about this enough. Abortion can be another word
for mercy.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
OK, at that point, she's just nuts.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
And I don't mean that in a derogatory way at all.
I might. And you won't believe this, but my heart
breaks for it because there's no way an intelligent person
could say that unless they're in deep, deep pain from
the decision they made. And I think there are so
many good people, so many great people, so many women
in pain all over this country because somebody pressured them
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into an abortion or they felt pressured by circumstances into
an abortion and they now regret it. And this is
just her way of dealing with the pain, convincing herself
that that no, it was a merciful act on her
part to take that child's life. It never is. How
could it be? Yeah. But the fact that, that she
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would try to make that argument publicly, I just, I
think reflects what pain she must be in. We don't know.
We don't know.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
It's not a world in which we know that no
two pregnancies are alike.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
And before she goes off on that riff, this last
point about, uh, this preposterous claim that it's an act
of mercy to kill a person, to take another's human life,
the only chance they will ever have to be on
this planet, that's an act of mercy. That's the same
argument again you heard in favor of slavery, the same
(24:39):
twisted argument. No, it's an act of mercy to have
these people as our slaves. That way they get fed.
And they have a roof over their head. It's an
act of mercy. You heard the same argument for slavery.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
It follows that no two lives are alike. That follows
that no two conceptions are alike. So how can we
have a law? How can we have a point of
view on this that says we must treat everything the same?
Speaker 1 (25:04):
How could those words come out of her mouth? Because
she is. She's shown in other parts of her life.
She's an intelligent person. How could she even let those
words come out of her mouth? Because If she put
any time at all into thinking about her own question,
it would become obvious to her. Well, the one thing
that is the same in every abortion is that is
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someone else's life being taken. Again, not philosophy or religion.
That's just medical fact. That's the thing's the same. But again,
I think because she's in this state of trying to
rationalize and justify what she did, she won't allow that
good mind of hers to process. And to actually think through,
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you know, this reality, because it's it must be because
it's too painful for. But then to go out and
decide to to publicly try to persuade other women around
the nation to take other children's lives. To me, that's
that that is what is what's so narcissistic and so selfish.
(26:10):
So she can feel better. She's going to try to
convince more people to do what she did.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
Where I come at it from is when you allow
for choice, you allow for flexibility, which is what we
need in order to be human.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
In order to be human. Wow. So in order to
be human, we need the flexibility to kill other humans.
In order to be human, we need the flexibility to
kill other innocent, defenseless humans. Again, how do those words
even come out of the mouth, out of the brain
(26:48):
of an otherwise intelligent person when they're trying to justify
the unjustifiable, defend the indefensible, rationalize that which cannot be rationalized?
So I just come back to my point that she
must be in such deep pain that she was willing
to go on national TV and try to convince others
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of this. Do you think she has any idea? just
how foolish her arguments are and how foolish she looked
trying to make those arguments. Despite the, you know, nodding
bobbleheads sitting next to her. Oh, yeah, no, that's right.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Every circumstance is different. Right. Yeah, man. In the end,
I think a great irony here is I think this
really helps the pro-life movement. because these arguments are so
obviously fatally flawed. And I do hope more and more
people start making the point that almost all of these
pro-abortion arguments are the same arguments that were made in
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favor of slavery. You're on the Dan Kaplan Show. They
just know we're heading into probably the greatest six weeks
of the year weather-wise. It's just unbelievably beautiful. And then,
you know, we could get a big snowstorm in the
middle somewhere. But it's so bizarre to think that, yeah,
(28:10):
four or five, six weeks from now easily could have snow.
Enjoy it while we have it.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
303-713-8255, DAN 57739.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Let me get to some of those texts. If you're
just joining us. And you can pick it off of
the podcast or social media. Anne Hathaway goes on national
TV today to try to make the case for abortion
and I think does exactly the opposite. And we've been,
you know, just dissecting it throughout the afternoon. Some texters, Dan,
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at least the liberals who think children are an inconvenience
won't be having any and will die out like the shakers. Dan,
like that caller who was talking about animals, I believe
that is a good point. Hunting funds conservation and feeds families.
Lefty groups demonize hunters but will kill a child out
of convenience. Not only that, but celebrate it. Glorify it.
(29:00):
I mean, that's what she went on TV to do
was to glorify it. You see the left lighting up
buildings to celebrate the fact that they can now legally
take a child's life at full nine months, a moment
before delivery. I mean, yeah, it's... And we've talked before
about the psychology of that, but the threat, no matter
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what the psychology is, the threat is just as real
and just as severe. But I think it does come
back to trying to rationalize the evil they know that
they're doing. I mean, my own personal belief is that
at least 90% of all of the people in power,
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I'm talking about the people in power now, out there
pushing these radical abortion agendas know it's wrong. They know
it's wrong as a matter of science that that's taken in.
They know it's all wrong, but they do it, you know,
to get and to keep power. And some do it
for the money that's connected to it. Yeah, but they
know it's wrong. Dan, every time I hear that abortion
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should be between a woman and her doctor, my response is, sure,
and slavery should be between the buyer and the seller,
nobody else's business. And I'm glad that Texter made that
point because it's something I hammer on all the time
is just look at the arguments in favor of legalized abortion.
They directly parallel the arguments in favor of slavery directly
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because it's the same thing, right? You want to treat
Innocent human life, somebody else's life is property. It's the
same thing. Damn, they're not allowing the unborn child any
flexibility or a choice or the ability to make its
own choices in the future. Of course not. And this
comes back to the whole terminology thing that the left now,
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the last thing they want to do is have the
word abortion in any of their arguments. So you hear
Anne Hathaway on The View today. talk about reproductive destiny,
and you have what's called the biggest pro-abortion group in Colorado, Cobalt,
they changed their name so there was no reference to
abortion in their name. Cobalt, that's like, if you put
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into AI right now, what's the most generic name I
could come up with for anything? But the person would
have no idea what that group did. It'd be Cobalt.
So the group that claims abortion is this wonderful thing
that others need to fund, and we need to import
people to Colorado to end these lives before birth, they
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won't even have abortion in their name.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Dan, when Barack and Michelle Obama were interviewed a few
months ago, when asked what the next chapter looks like,
Barack said, fun, and Michelle said, me. Michelle is very self-centered.
That's from our friend Alexa. And there's been a lot
of conversation we've had on this show. I'm sure you've
seen it by now. The Michelle Obama thing. interview with
Jon Stewart and others where Stewart and others are talking
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about how much they miss their kids now that they've
left the NASD and Michelle saying, not me. And that
brought us into a deeper conversation, my own personal belief.
And I'm not talking about your typical Democrat. I'm talking
about the power elite in the party who are largely secular.
And I don't know what Michelle Obama's views on God
are or not. So I'm not judging her. But more broadly,
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the party since it became secular at this point, so
many bad things flow from that, including, you know, this
incredibly narcissistic, selfish focus on just me. And in Michelle
Obama's case, I think what you can see on display is,
does she look like a happy person? Do you know?
Because none of us are truly happy when we're just
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focused on ourselves. The happiness comes from focusing on others.
But that is not the mentality of the modern Democratic Party.
This secular disregard for the inherent dignity and value of
human life, the sole focus on me, yeah, it's a
very toxic kind of mentality right now that controls that party.
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The good news is, and I know this because I
think like every single relative of mine outside of this
state is a Democrat. I know there are so many
great people who are still registered Democrats because they could never,
ever imagine being a Republican because of all those stereotypes.
But they are faithful people. They are patriotic people. They
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are people who value human life and get their fulfillment
from serving others. There are so many Democrats like that.
That is why I truly believe there's an even bigger
tipping point coming than what we've seen already. And I
think we're seeing a tipping point in progress across America. Colorado,
tougher nut to crack. It's going to take longer here,
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but it will crack. It will crack. Because good will
eventually triumph over evil. We know who wins in the end. 303-713-8255.
Write it down. Call us tomorrow. Dave Tepper, the boss,
helping out on the show today. We're so grateful for that.
Have a safe, wonderful evening. God and management willing, we're
back tomorrow at 4 on the Dan Kaplan Show.
Complex area, storm through a King Soopers, a lot of looting.
You know, Burger King took over Burger King as well.
Don't blame law enforcement. Law enforcement, you know, they would
love to enforce the law. It's about political will. And
then in Denver, Sunday night, another shutdown. This at 10th
and Broadway, you know, where, again, big gang of largely teens,
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but other people just shut down the roadways. you know,
just so they could drag race and do other stuff
on the roadways that they wanted to do. It's like
broken windows, right? That's why it's called the broken window theory.
You cannot allow a broken window to go unfixed or
else the whole neighborhood falls apart. So how do you mechanically,
how do you stop this? I know you need the
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political will first, but mechanically, how do you stop this?
And we're also talking about Anne Hathaway today. Yeah, very successful,
as you know, popular Hollywood, actress who was on The
View and pronouncing abortion to be such a great and
glorious thing. And again, the parallels to slavery are unavoidable
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and screamingly obvious because people were doing the same thing
as they advocated for slavery and supported slavery and endorsed
slavery and even fought for slavery. They were making the
exact same kind of arguments. So we'll break down This
stuff from Anne Hathaway again in a second. And then
I do want to quiz you on household gun ownership
(01:28):
across the USA. You know, which states do you think
have the highest and lowest rates? Where do you think
Colorado falls? I've got the list in front of me.
Let's start with Chris. You're on the Dan Kaplan Show. Welcome, Chris. Yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
How are you doing?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
I'm living the dream. How about you?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Same here. I retired after 34 years on the department.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I rode the motorcycles for 21 years. I escorted every
president from 2000 to 2021, including every vice president. It
was a hell of a time. I had the best
time of my life.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Was this Denver?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I'm sorry?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
DPD or a different department? Denver Police Department? Yeah, yeah,
I thought so. Yeah, with all those presidential barricades.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
It was amazing. And the first thing you learn is
we had to go through a two-week course. First week,
we had to do patterns and all kinds of stuff.
And then the second week, escort. And you learn to
respect that bike. Because I'll tell you, the first second
you don't, you're done. And guys don't have respect for
their bikes. They don't have respect for people. It's insane,
(02:40):
and you're right about the political powers. If they wanted to,
they could shut it down, but they don't want to.
I don't understand why not.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah, I think we got a taste of that in
that Channel 7 story I'll play again where it was
a Democrat who proposed a law to crack down on
all this. And then other Democrats said, no, it might
be culturally prejudicial in its application. So just– I think
that the powers that be in the Democratic Party, and
this is not a reflection on everyday Democrats, but I
(03:12):
think they just truly want to protect criminals. They feel
that enforcement of the criminal laws has disproportionately hurt people
of color, so they don't want criminal laws enforced.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I agree. Yeah. Well, thanks for your service, man. Hey,
what's your favorite story from a presidential escort?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Oh, it's amazing. We escorted Trump, Biden, everybody.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Obama. Yeah. That's got to be a rush.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
They all shook hands with us.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
That's got to be fun. That's got to be a rush. Well, hey, man,
really appreciate it. Thanks for your service, Chris.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
No, thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
You take care. Appreciate you calling the show. And as
long as I live, feel free to turn the radio
off for this. Maybe forever if you've heard this story before,
but I can't stop telling it. We were... Dave, did
I ever tell you the story about Amy and Bill
Clinton and the presidential motorcade? So it's a summer day.
(04:16):
Can't remember the year. It had to be, you know,
early 90s. Well, no, we were married. We got married
in 94. And so... We hear that Clinton is going
to be coming out south here. So we go out
onto Bellevue to wait for the motorcade. Warm summer days,
so Amy's in short shorts. Appropriate, but short shorts and
a beautiful woman. And then we have our dog out
(04:38):
there with us. And we're the only people on Bellevue
because it's middle of the afternoon. But we're patriotic. We
want to see the president. So the motorcade comes by.
And then here's Clinton. And he's just staring at her.
As the motorcade comes by, which is fine, to be expected,
it's flattering. But then as it goes by, he turns
(05:00):
in his seat and continues to stare at Amy. And
I couldn't even get mad about it, right? That's a
real compliment. The leader of the free world, you know,
just turning around in his seat like a teenager to
ogle your wife. Yeah. What'd she think? What did I think?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
She.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Oh, she, um... I like how you qualify the short
shorts being appropriate. Oh, they were. Yeah. She's not. Yeah.
And that was, that was, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
No, very appropriate, but she's not very attractive. Of course.
I would think nothing less. And I would think nothing
less for you to have an attractive wife. How did
she feel about that? You know, she was not offended. Yeah.
I mean, I, I'm sure there are so many women listening.
She's certainly one of them with, they're just used to
guys kind of ogling them. And, and, you know, it
was the president. So it's hard to get to.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Now, if she walked into the studio right now, she
would deny it, you know, just because she she's so
modest and she just doesn't want to talk about herself
that way. But it happened. Oh, it happened. Look at you, Dan.
I'm not surprised a bit.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yes. Anyway, any excuse to tell that story? So how
do we do it? How do we stop this mob rule?
And then I'll get to this Anne Hathaway craziness. Dan,
those are Anne Hathaway comments. I'll get to those after
I play the tape. Yeah, then we've got some more
(06:35):
just unanimous against this whole lane-splitting nonsense that the left
has pushed in Colorado and all the dangers that come
from it. So let me get to this Anne Hathaway sound.
This is on The View. And this is Anne Hathaway
advocating abortion, glorifying abortion, promoting abortion. Now, my premise, as
you listen to this, and I'll play it all the
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way through, and then I'll come back and break it
down one by one, because her arguments are so easily destroyed,
flipped on her, and compared almost word for word to
the arguments made in favor of slavery back during that
horrific era. But first, my belief is you're hearing... I
believe a woman in pain, I think you're hearing someone
(07:18):
who likely had one or more abortions and now deeply
regrets it. And she's trying to rationalize it, that that's
what I think we're listening to, because she is objectively,
she's an intelligent woman. And I can't imagine any other
scenario where she'd be making such arguments that are obviously illogical,
fatally flawed logically and medically so easily defeated unless she
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was trying to do what I think all of us
do at some times, and that is try to rationalize
something we've done wrong. When you are a.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Young woman starting out your career, your reproductive destiny matters
a great deal. My own personal experience with abortion, and
I don't think we talk about this enough, abortion can
be another word for mercy.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
We don't know. We don't know.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
It's not a world in which we know that no
two pregnancies are alike and it follows that no two
lives are like that follows that no two conceptions are alike.
So how can we have a law? How can we
have a point of view on this that says we
must treat everything the same?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Because what is the same is that's always an innocent
human life being killed, no matter what. the rationale is
that led to it. That's what's always the same, Anne,
in each and every case. And again, it's the argument
that was made in favor of slavery. Well, you know,
(08:38):
no two situations are the same. No two plantations are
the same. You know, some people can afford to make
it without slavery. Some people can't. And we're really just,
and I'm talking about the twisted arguments that were made
in favor of slavery back in the day. And it's
really an act of mercy to the slave because, said
the slaveholders, the slaves could never exist on their own.
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These are all the same arguments that were made to
advance slavery. And, you know, that's what you have now.
Just trying to rationalize doing something wrong by trying to
get others to do the same thing.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Where I come at it from is when you allow
for choice, you allow for flexibility, which is what we
need in order to be human.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Wow. Let's break that down. It won't take long. Again,
same arguments made for for slavery. Hey, North, you don't
want slavery. Don't have slaves, right? And the North was saying, well, no,
wait a second. This is fundamental morality. You can't be imprisoning.
You can't be putting humans in chains to serve you.
(09:45):
And so that's the same argument being made here by, oh, no,
we need flexibility. We need the flexibility to kill other
lives if we don't want those other lives to exist.
That's what she's saying. And again, she's such a high
intelligent person. It must be an effort to rationalize what
she's done that that's just blinding her to how fatally
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flawed all these arguments are. You're on the Dan Kaplan show.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
I reject your guys' sympathy, to be honest with you.
There's no way you guys are sorry. Not one of
you guys have ever called me. Not one of you
guys have ever reached out to me. Not one of
you guys have ever sat there and seen me in
the hallways and said, hey, sorry about your daughter. You
guys do it right here while you guys are grandstanding
on top of your soapbox. This is when you guys care.
Right here inside this room is the only time you
guys care. I've never received anything from anybody over here
(10:40):
at all regarding my daughter or my family or anything.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Hey, Mr.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
Coleman, you guys is Delilah Long. I want to help
you revise this so that we were interested inside of it.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Nothing.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
You guys have no pathway to anything. You guys want
to sit there and talk about the pathway to citizenship.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
There is a pathway. It's not jump the fence and apply.
That's not the way it goes. Powerful. Powerful. 303-713-8255, D-A-N-57739.
I just never heard that phrase before. I reject your sympathy.
Really powerful. Hey, we're talking about mob rule in Colorado
in these lefty control areas. We're seeing more and more
(11:17):
of it, including the latest in Aurora, takeover of a
King Soopers, etc. Don't blame law enforcement. They're doing the
best they can with it. It's about political will. And
in Denver, another big street takeover. We played that Channel
7 story. We will again. And then we're breaking down
Anne Hathaway going on national TV today on The View
to glorify and promote abortion. And her arguments in favor
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of it are so easily exposed and defeated that it's
actually useful to have her do this because everybody is making,
I'm sure in their own head, is dissecting her arguments themselves.
But it's good to do it together as well. So
I'll go through. We'll take it point by point. In
the meantime... We'll go to the phones. Oswaldo, you're on
(12:03):
the Dan Kaplis show.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Welcome. How are you, Senor Kaplis?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I am great, my friend. How are you?
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Long time listener. I really admire your career and your show.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Thank you. You keep it for so long.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Thank you. That's very kind.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
I just want to make a comment. Look, every being means,
including animals, has the right to born and flourish, regardless
of the conditions, right? I'm just thinking as a humanitarian.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Well, certainly human beings. I do think that God gave
us animals, humanely, you know, to be able to subsist
and to eat, etc. But certainly, humane treatment of animals.
But go ahead, my friend.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Well, I just want to kind of round out my
point of view. That's my point of view. Human beings
exist under different conditions, regardless of the origin of the
country or whatever they come from.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
But we have to respect a limit.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
And I'm not talking about religion. I'm not talking about
even science. Because when a conception happens, again, don't get
me wrong, it's not religious, but I think we all
deserve to be born and be happy and express and evolve.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
So when the laws apply to.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
People or even the human society that protects animals, they say, well,
this animal has to be euthanized.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I mean, it's.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Got to be law.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
And rules and, of course, subject to interpretation.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
You make such an.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Important point, Oswaldo, because by bringing animals into the conversation,
there's no question many, many, many on the left would
object and take to the streets and want to have
laws passed if you had– A million animals a year,
you know, being slaughtered the way that they advocate, you know,
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people should be able to legally kill children each year.
I mean, you're absolutely, I don't know if that's the
point you're trying to make, but it is a very
legitimate point. The left would object to treating animals the
way it wants children treated.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Exactly because of course animals are not the same as
humans but I can mention the what's the name of
this lady that was in charge of the DHS or
whatever the lady from South Dakota why you shoot an
animal for pleasure or that doesn't make sense and when
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somebody dares to to pull a trigger or put an
injection on a human being in this case. And they
say the side, the side basically.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Oswaldo, what a great point you make. And I'm sorry
I have to bail for this break, but what a
great point you make about Kristi Noem, that she had
a promising career going and then cricket buried her. I mean,
when she wrote in her book about, You know, shooting
the dog cricket because it created a lot of mischief.
That buried her career, at least at a certain level.
(15:40):
That and a few other things. No, interesting point. Let
me get you that Anne Hathaway sound. There won't be
time to break it down here, so I'll get it
to you all the way through so you can understand
the full context. And we'll come back on the other
side and break down the parallels to the arguments that
were made in support of slavery and just how easily
each of her points is defeated.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
When you are a young woman starting out your career,
your reproductive destiny matters a great deal. My own personal
experience with abortion, and I don't think we talk about
this enough, abortion can be another word for mercy.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
We don't know. We don't know.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
It's not a world in which— we know that no two
pregnancies are alike, and it follows that no two lives
are alike. That follows that no two conceptions are alike.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
How can we have a law? How can we have
a point of view on this that says we must
treat everything the same? And where I come at it
from is when you allow for choice, you allow for flexibility,
which is what we need in order to be human.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
She can't be that stupid. She's not a dumb person.
She's a smart person. So she must be trying to rationalize.
her own abortions, because every circumstance that leads to an
abortion may be different. But what's the same is it's
always an innocent human life being taken. That's not religion.
That's not philosophy. That's medical fact. She she must realize that.
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And when she talks early about how. reproductive flexibility so
important early in a career. But, you know, what she's
talking about is that you should be able to take
that other life, particularly earlier in your career, because you
may need that to advance all the same arguments made
in favor of slavery. You know, the parallels are striking.
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And another reason why we need to end this.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Streets during the night. This latest one happened on Sunday night.
And now we're hearing from a state legislator about the
solution he believes could work to crack down on this
public safety issue. Engines revving, tires squealing, and frustrated drivers
waiting for the intersection to clear. It's a site becoming
more common in Denver as organized groups take over streets
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while racing cars.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
And doing donuts. Yeah, and there's a lack of political
will to stop it. Just like look at this Denver
Post story, Katie Lankford piece about Aurora over the weekend.
And don't blame law enforcement, be it in Denver or Aurora.
They want to enforce law. We're talking political level here. Headline,
500 teen crowd vandalized stole from Aurora Shopping Center, police
say now. This comes back to, you probably see it
(18:19):
on social media, all this video of teens rampaging through
the King Soopers, a King Soopers in Aurora, taking a
bunch of stuff and then doing the same thing in
a Burger King. And the piece starts, a group of
500 teenagers became a, quote, public safety issue at an
Aurora shopping center parking lot. Excuse me. When some of
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the teams started vandalizing and stealing things from nearby businesses
on Sunday afternoon, police officials said, the story goes on
to say, Hey, Aurora PD, and I called Aurora PD
yesterday to get more details on this. They ended up
deploying 70 officers out there. So they took it very seriously.
But there's got to be the political will now to
follow up and to get every bit of imagery you
(19:02):
can get off all these videos, not just the ones
on social media, but you can bet. These King Soopers,
they got a lot of video cameras inside and out.
Get every face you can. Track down every person you can.
There's got to be the will to do that. Same
thing in Denver. Same thing in Denver. You know, all
the imaging you can get of faces, license plates, et cetera.
(19:23):
But then, listen, you got to have the political will
to stop this stuff, right? Because if you do, then
law enforcement gets the tools to do its job. And
that includes monitoring social media so you have a heads
up on where these things are going to happen. And
then you infiltrate and then you get out there and
then you either stop them before they happen or you're
able to arrest without causing a riot. you know, some
(19:46):
of the people on scene. But right now, hey, don't
you think it's just effectively a green light, pun intended,
to these mobs? Because they just keep getting away with it.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
So it's at the political level, but obviously it's just
going to keep happening and expanding until You know, these
lefty politicians decide to crack down. 303-713-8255, D-A-N-57739. I do
want to get back to this Anne Hathaway sound, and
I want to take it point by point as she goes,
(20:21):
you know, on the view today to try to advocate
for glorify, justify abortion. And I understand. Before I even
make a single point, you've already picked her argument apart yourself.
But but I think it's worth doing together and I'll
work some text in as well. And I really do
think that this overarching point, it needs to be made
(20:44):
more often that virtually all the arguments you hear in
favor of abortion directly parallel the arguments that were made
in favor of legalized slavery. I mean, because you can
see the common denominator, right, which is treating innocent human
life like somebody's property. But but it was the same
kind of rationale and it was the same thing. You
(21:05):
had often otherwise intelligent people making really dumb, illogical, easily
defeated arguments because they're trying to rationalize doing something evil
for their own benefit. Because a lot of good people
do that, right? At some point, virtually all of us
(21:25):
have done something wrong because it was good for us
And then we find a way to rationalize it. And
as you listen to Anne Hathaway, that is what she
is doing. Let's take it in my opinion. And she
talks openly about her abortions. And I think she's trying
to rationalize and justify them. And she obviously can't. So
(21:47):
let's take it point by point. When you are a.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Young woman starting out your career, your reproductive destiny matters
a great deal. When you are a young woman starting
out your career, your reproductive destiny matters.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
A great deal. Okay, let's break that down. First of all,
she's not willing to say, when you are a young
woman starting out your career, it's really important that you
have access to abortion. Why isn't she willing to say that?
Because now everybody understands abortion is the taking of an
innocent human life. You know, the big lie of the
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left and the abortion movement, that it's a blob of tissue,
has been disproven by ultrasounds and other technology. So now
they just don't use the word. It has to be
reproductive destiny as if somebody is forcing Anne Hathaway to
become pregnant.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Right.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
So it's got to be reproductive destiny. But what she's
saying underneath it clearly is, hey, when you're just starting
out your career, you really have to have the right
to to take this other life so that it doesn't
get in the way of your career. Again, same argument
in favor of slavery, which was, oh, yeah, slaveholder argument.
(22:57):
You know, listen, I've got this small farm. I've got
this plantation. We're just starting out. I've got to be
able to have slaves or we're going to go broke. See,
it's the same. It's the same evil rationale.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
My own personal experience with abortion, and I don't think
we talk about this enough. Abortion can be another word
for mercy.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
OK, at that point, she's just nuts.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
And I don't mean that in a derogatory way at all.
I might. And you won't believe this, but my heart
breaks for it because there's no way an intelligent person
could say that unless they're in deep, deep pain from
the decision they made. And I think there are so
many good people, so many great people, so many women
in pain all over this country because somebody pressured them
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into an abortion or they felt pressured by circumstances into
an abortion and they now regret it. And this is
just her way of dealing with the pain, convincing herself
that that no, it was a merciful act on her
part to take that child's life. It never is. How
could it be? Yeah. But the fact that, that she
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would try to make that argument publicly, I just, I
think reflects what pain she must be in. We don't know.
We don't know.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
It's not a world in which we know that no
two pregnancies are alike.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
And before she goes off on that riff, this last
point about, uh, this preposterous claim that it's an act
of mercy to kill a person, to take another's human life,
the only chance they will ever have to be on
this planet, that's an act of mercy. That's the same
argument again you heard in favor of slavery, the same
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twisted argument. No, it's an act of mercy to have
these people as our slaves. That way they get fed.
And they have a roof over their head. It's an
act of mercy. You heard the same argument for slavery.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
It follows that no two lives are alike. That follows
that no two conceptions are alike. So how can we
have a law? How can we have a point of
view on this that says we must treat everything the same?
Speaker 1 (25:04):
How could those words come out of her mouth? Because
she is. She's shown in other parts of her life.
She's an intelligent person. How could she even let those
words come out of her mouth? Because If she put
any time at all into thinking about her own question,
it would become obvious to her. Well, the one thing
that is the same in every abortion is that is
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someone else's life being taken. Again, not philosophy or religion.
That's just medical fact. That's the thing's the same. But again,
I think because she's in this state of trying to
rationalize and justify what she did, she won't allow that
good mind of hers to process. And to actually think through,
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you know, this reality, because it's it must be because
it's too painful for. But then to go out and
decide to to publicly try to persuade other women around
the nation to take other children's lives. To me, that's
that that is what is what's so narcissistic and so selfish.
(26:10):
So she can feel better. She's going to try to
convince more people to do what she did.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
Where I come at it from is when you allow
for choice, you allow for flexibility, which is what we
need in order to be human.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
In order to be human. Wow. So in order to
be human, we need the flexibility to kill other humans.
In order to be human, we need the flexibility to
kill other innocent, defenseless humans. Again, how do those words
even come out of the mouth, out of the brain
(26:48):
of an otherwise intelligent person when they're trying to justify
the unjustifiable, defend the indefensible, rationalize that which cannot be rationalized?
So I just come back to my point that she
must be in such deep pain that she was willing
to go on national TV and try to convince others
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of this. Do you think she has any idea? just
how foolish her arguments are and how foolish she looked
trying to make those arguments. Despite the, you know, nodding
bobbleheads sitting next to her. Oh, yeah, no, that's right.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Every circumstance is different. Right. Yeah, man. In the end,
I think a great irony here is I think this
really helps the pro-life movement. because these arguments are so
obviously fatally flawed. And I do hope more and more
people start making the point that almost all of these
pro-abortion arguments are the same arguments that were made in
(27:50):
favor of slavery. You're on the Dan Kaplan Show. They
just know we're heading into probably the greatest six weeks
of the year weather-wise. It's just unbelievably beautiful. And then,
you know, we could get a big snowstorm in the
middle somewhere. But it's so bizarre to think that, yeah,
(28:10):
four or five, six weeks from now easily could have snow.
Enjoy it while we have it.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
303-713-8255, DAN 57739.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Let me get to some of those texts. If you're
just joining us. And you can pick it off of
the podcast or social media. Anne Hathaway goes on national
TV today to try to make the case for abortion
and I think does exactly the opposite. And we've been,
you know, just dissecting it throughout the afternoon. Some texters, Dan,
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at least the liberals who think children are an inconvenience
won't be having any and will die out like the shakers. Dan,
like that caller who was talking about animals, I believe
that is a good point. Hunting funds conservation and feeds families.
Lefty groups demonize hunters but will kill a child out
of convenience. Not only that, but celebrate it. Glorify it.
(29:00):
I mean, that's what she went on TV to do
was to glorify it. You see the left lighting up
buildings to celebrate the fact that they can now legally
take a child's life at full nine months, a moment
before delivery. I mean, yeah, it's... And we've talked before
about the psychology of that, but the threat, no matter
(29:21):
what the psychology is, the threat is just as real
and just as severe. But I think it does come
back to trying to rationalize the evil they know that
they're doing. I mean, my own personal belief is that
at least 90% of all of the people in power,
(29:41):
I'm talking about the people in power now, out there
pushing these radical abortion agendas know it's wrong. They know
it's wrong as a matter of science that that's taken in.
They know it's all wrong, but they do it, you know,
to get and to keep power. And some do it
for the money that's connected to it. Yeah, but they
know it's wrong. Dan, every time I hear that abortion
(30:01):
should be between a woman and her doctor, my response is, sure,
and slavery should be between the buyer and the seller,
nobody else's business. And I'm glad that Texter made that
point because it's something I hammer on all the time
is just look at the arguments in favor of legalized abortion.
They directly parallel the arguments in favor of slavery directly
(30:23):
because it's the same thing, right? You want to treat
Innocent human life, somebody else's life is property. It's the
same thing. Damn, they're not allowing the unborn child any
flexibility or a choice or the ability to make its
own choices in the future. Of course not. And this
comes back to the whole terminology thing that the left now,
(30:44):
the last thing they want to do is have the
word abortion in any of their arguments. So you hear
Anne Hathaway on The View today. talk about reproductive destiny,
and you have what's called the biggest pro-abortion group in Colorado, Cobalt,
they changed their name so there was no reference to
abortion in their name. Cobalt, that's like, if you put
(31:05):
into AI right now, what's the most generic name I
could come up with for anything? But the person would
have no idea what that group did. It'd be Cobalt.
So the group that claims abortion is this wonderful thing
that others need to fund, and we need to import
people to Colorado to end these lives before birth, they
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won't even have abortion in their name.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Dan, when Barack and Michelle Obama were interviewed a few
months ago, when asked what the next chapter looks like,
Barack said, fun, and Michelle said, me. Michelle is very self-centered.
That's from our friend Alexa. And there's been a lot
of conversation we've had on this show. I'm sure you've
seen it by now. The Michelle Obama thing. interview with
Jon Stewart and others where Stewart and others are talking
(31:52):
about how much they miss their kids now that they've
left the NASD and Michelle saying, not me. And that
brought us into a deeper conversation, my own personal belief.
And I'm not talking about your typical Democrat. I'm talking
about the power elite in the party who are largely secular.
And I don't know what Michelle Obama's views on God
are or not. So I'm not judging her. But more broadly,
(32:14):
the party since it became secular at this point, so
many bad things flow from that, including, you know, this
incredibly narcissistic, selfish focus on just me. And in Michelle
Obama's case, I think what you can see on display is,
does she look like a happy person? Do you know?
Because none of us are truly happy when we're just
(32:37):
focused on ourselves. The happiness comes from focusing on others.
But that is not the mentality of the modern Democratic Party.
This secular disregard for the inherent dignity and value of
human life, the sole focus on me, yeah, it's a
very toxic kind of mentality right now that controls that party.
(33:00):
The good news is, and I know this because I
think like every single relative of mine outside of this
state is a Democrat. I know there are so many
great people who are still registered Democrats because they could never,
ever imagine being a Republican because of all those stereotypes.
But they are faithful people. They are patriotic people. They
(33:21):
are people who value human life and get their fulfillment
from serving others. There are so many Democrats like that.
That is why I truly believe there's an even bigger
tipping point coming than what we've seen already. And I
think we're seeing a tipping point in progress across America. Colorado,
tougher nut to crack. It's going to take longer here,
(33:42):
but it will crack. It will crack. Because good will
eventually triumph over evil. We know who wins in the end. 303-713-8255.
Write it down. Call us tomorrow. Dave Tepper, the boss,
helping out on the show today. We're so grateful for that.
Have a safe, wonderful evening. God and management willing, we're
back tomorrow at 4 on the Dan Kaplan Show.
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