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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Very very lucky.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Three or three seven one three eight two five five
d A N five seven seven three nine.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Where to start? So much going on locally nationally. We'll
always start locally when it's hot enough, and I think
it is because remember, hey, ballots are dropping right in
the GOP and the dem primary, and both are fascinating
in their own ways, very important in their own ways.
And again this show, it's known as brutal honesty, and
the brutal truth is that whoever wins the Democrat primary.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Is likely, not certain, but likely to be.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Our next governor in a big, big difference for this
state and for the GOP going forward, depending on whether
that's Wiser or Bennett. So we're going to talk about
that a little bit, particularly sent Sean Boyd. He really
is one of the great political reporters I think of
this generation, because she's certainly one of the most independent.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
You have so many not all. But you have so many.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Of these local media types, very talented, but they will
protect elected officials in order to keep access to those
elected officials. And you can't get a more blatant example
of protection than we saw in the moderators of the
KUSA debate when they served as human shields for Wiser
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and Bennett in very concrete ways that we've talked about
before and we'll again.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
But the point is.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Sean Boyd isn't one of those, and she has been
fearless and she'll go out and just report the fact.
So she has a piece on Phil Wiser that I
think is going to be important in this race. I'm
not saying it's going to be determinative, but it's going
to be important.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
So I'll get that to you in this segment.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Then at the same time, you've got a GOP primary
like no other, right sorry, masters, but truly like no
other where the haities.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Is that going?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Well, if you know, please tell me, because I have
zero feel whatsoever for.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Where that GOP primary is going.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
And you know, at this point, I think it's highly
likely to be either Barb Kirkmeyer or Victor Marx, but
nobody knows for sure. Where it's going, because we haven't
seen anything like this. None of these campaigns are on
TV heavily. None of these campaigns, you know, have a
so called independent expenditure Committee that's on TV heavily. The
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left has not at least openly played in the GOP
primary yet, which they usually do, and maybe they're saving it,
or maybe the DEM primary is so contested and so
important in lefty eyes that they're just going to keep
all their money there and figure because again they're so
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incredibly arrogant, and the GOP has been struggling, but figure
the GOP is to bury itself anyway. So lots to
talk about there. I'll start with that Wiser piece. You know,
We're not gonna talk much about Iran until there's something conclusive,
because again I get the point. I've heard it from
several listeners. I don't think texting is a scientific poll
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or anything, but I've seen enough and heard enough from Collas.
You know, I think Americans at this point are just
burned out on Iran, that they're frustrated. They know the
regime is evil and it has to go and it's
a danger to America. They know Trump's gone further than
others have gone. But at this point, the iatolas are
the regime just mocking the US and mocking Trump, and
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so I think it's just frustrating for most Americans to
the point where they've just kind of tuned out.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I get that now.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I do think we are probably very close to a
pivot point here one way or the other. You know,
the President announcing today that he has stopped the bombing
for tonight. He was talking about taking carg Island, stop
the bombing for tonight based on requests from Iran and
their commitment that they have a deal approved by the
Supreme Demons. So yeah, that's at this point what the
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President is saying.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Bottom line for me is I trust Trump.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I trust Trump on this based on past performance, and
he knows a whole lot of things we don't know,
So I trust him. We'll see where it goes. If
you're listening to six pointy Kids in Denver, we're.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Doing the show from there today.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
They had in the newscast at the top two things
that I thought were cool.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
One is in a news.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Report they were referring to Kendrick Castile Way as where
something happened, and how cool it is that this state
is honoring what it should be honoring in the naming
of something, in the naming of that major parkway out
in the Denver South Denver Highlands or Antario.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
That is cool.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
We should be naming things after people who display the
qualities we all admire, and of course we all know
whether people are Christian where we would all agree that
ultimate love is to lay down your life for your
fellow man and woman, as Kendrick Castillo did to save
his entire classroom and the teachers, who, by the way,
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the killers had planned.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I know this, I handled the civil case.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I got to see a lot of stuff and depose
a lot of people. The killers had planned to lock
the doors and methodically execute each and every student and
teacher one by one in one of the most terrific
mentally and physically torturing events in American history.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
And Kendric Castio.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Laid down his life to stop that, and then some
other brave kids rallied as well.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
So you should be naming a.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Major thoroughfare and so much more after Kendrick Castio. So
very very cool to hear that. And what else do
you think should be named after whom love? Your take
on that so often our most important stuff is named
after people it should not.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Be named after.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I don't think anything should be named after elected officials
unless it's an extraordinary circums. There are some exceptions. It's
like obscenity, but reverse you know what when you see it,
I mean you talk about a John F.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Kennedy.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yes, something should be named after a John F. Kennedy
or Ronald Reagan or a Theodore Roosevelt. But in terms
of local politicians, I think that would have to be
really extraordinary. Like I personally liked federic Opania. We would
disagree on policy. I liked him as a person.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I think he was a big timer, a multi talented guy.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Got to know him a little bit in youth baseball,
liked him. But I don't think one of the most major,
prominent pronounced boulevards in all of Colorado should be named
after a retired politician. You know, I think we should
be naming this stuff after real regular people who have
displayed the greatest virtues that we all universally admire. So
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what would you name what after?
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Three?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Or three? Who would you name what after? Right?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Three?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Or three? Seven?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Three eight two five five d an five seven seven
three nine. I have some thoughts on that, which I
think might shock you.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
The other cool thing in the local newscasting Denver today
was they were talking about Sean Payton resigning, which obviously
is very good from a football standpoint.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
But within that piece, you know the Peyton was.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Talking about how you know he's not even going to
think about retirement while he still enjoys it and he's
sixty two. I think one of the biggest mistakes humanity
makes is paying any attention to that number at all
on your driver's license. If unless the issue is whether
you can get into a bar, it is the most
irrelevant data imaginable. You have to control so many people's lives.
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It's a prison people built for themselves. I can't tell you.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I was telling Zach on the way in, because Zach
was saying, how's your day?
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I said, man, it's wild and getting ready for three
trials in the middle of this big one, and we're
talking about how that's great. And I was telling Zach,
I think most, probably ninety eight percent of my law
school classes all now retired. And when I run into
him like zombies and they're.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Looking for something to do. Not all of them.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
But I just think it's such a big mistake for
people to just reach a number and say I'm done
at work or whatever, and then so many folks just
kind of fade after that.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Age is much more a mentality, I think, than a number.
You know, some people get old really fast, some people,
and that goes on the end of the spectrum. In
the start of the spectrum, I think there's some twenty
year olds who are very mature, thoughtful people. There are
some who are really thoughtless and immature.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
No, and you're a great example of somebody your age who's.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Way beyond your age now now as you start to
get older, as people start to get older, that's the
thing that baffles me, because I can look you in
the eye and tell you that I feel right now
younger than I did when I was twenty five, and
in a lot of ways I'm better than I was
when I was twenty five. Not every way, but some ways.
It would probably surprise you. And I think, listen, a
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part of that, I think is just health. You know,
if you're blessed with health and you get lucky on health,
that sure, but so much of it I think it's
just mentality and Zach, people you can't relate to this
yet because you know, you still haven't got past thirty
or whatever. But you get so many people that get
to thirty or thirty five or forty, and then they
start to become a self fulfilling bad prophecy just because
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the number is getting bigger, Like, so what And with
all the advancements happening, clearly with AI and AI multiplying
ineffectiveness the way it is, are going to be cures.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
For so many things soon. I bet, I bet, Zach,
how old are you? Twenty six?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I would bet most people your age, healthy people your age,
are going to have the option of living to one
hundred and twenty.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
That's crazy to think about it, maybe more.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Because what's killing people? I mean, what's killing people? Heart disease?
Speaker 6 (09:51):
Cancer?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Answer, heart disease, cancer, heart crashes. And then honestly, cars
is probably huge, huge, yeah, huge.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
N AI and related advancements I think are going to
revolutionize all of that, all of that. So you see
an awful lot of smart people out there and kind
of the intersected worlds of medicine, AI, et cetera, saying hey,
unless you're on your deathbed, right now or really decrepit
or aging fast.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Just hold on, just hold time, because.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
There are a lot of big breakthroughs coming and then
the big hope is we'll find out together.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
But the big hope is that that because of AI.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Now AI is going to cause a lot of problems too,
right it already is, But because of AI, that these
breakthroughs are going to be within the reach of normal people.
So yeah, So I just don't understand people who say, oh,
I have reached a number, whether it's fifty, sixty, seventy
so undone. To me, that's just a form of stupid suicide.
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Three L three is all suicide. Stupid THREELL three someone
three eight two five five, d an five seven, seven
through nine. When we come back, I'll have that story
on Phil Wiser. Is there not illegal corruption? But is
there something questionable there ethically? And the latest from the
Croatola Jason Crowe unbelievable stuff. How does a guy who
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was served so heroically in our armed forces then as
a politician become so anti to the point he's praising
Iran and now known as the Crowatola.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
And now back to the Dan kapla show podcast.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
When we're in a situation where we have to tune
into what the Iranians say to get the real information
on the status of the negotiations. That's a huge problem,
right because the information coming out of the administration is
inconsistent at best in misleading at work.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
The Crowatola jumps the shark.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Now, I submit, the Crowatola jumped the shark a long
time ago. We're obviously talking about Jason Crowe from the
six c D in Colorado. I submit, he jumped the
shark when he came out along with other Democrats and
very cutely. And I say that because they protected themselves
legally but delivered the message they wanted to, which was
to defy Trump's orders, and grand jury decided not to indict.
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I never thought it was criminal, and I said at
the time, I didn't think it was criminal. I thought
it was immoral, destabilizing, meant to destabilize, and blatantly un American.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
And I asked a question, how do you go from
there to hear like I didn't serve?
Speaker 1 (12:29):
How do you go from being a guy like Jason
Crow who puts his life on the line, really takes
on dangerous, high level stuff in the US military and
combat zones, risks his life for this country. How do
you go from that to the crow Atola to coming
back trying to destabilize undermine the military, and then coming
out and saying this evil regime in Iran is.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
More reliable than ours. I mean, that is way, way,
way jump in the shark.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
I think I know why he's doing that, and it
doesn't justify it makes it worse.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Same thing with Mark Kelly.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Serve this country so bravely and noblely in the military,
and now in order to find his place in politics
in advance, he goes the exact opposite direction, trying to
destabilize our military. All this other junkies pon to me,
that's absolutely mind blowing. I mean, these crazy lefties you
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know who are rooting against the US in this war
and rooting for Iran.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I know they exist. It's despicable.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
But the men and women who serve this country so
nobly and then become a crazy lefty.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Rooting for Iran, I just don't get that.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Three out three someone three eight two five five d
A N five seven seventh.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Three And now we'll get to that wiser story I
mentioned earlier in a bit.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
But in the meantime, Dennis in Denver, you're on the
Dane Kaplis show. Welcome a lot of d's.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Hi, Dan, I called about your naming of streets and
things for fallen heroes. Yes, and we've had this discussion
before about the City of Denver naming buildings after politicians.
I was sick. I admire one thing the Denver Police
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Department does, and that's put a speed limit size sign
in the neighborhoods where Denver police officers have fallen in
the line of duty. You know, they seem to recognize
the sacrifice very easily. The fire department, on the other hand,
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hasn't done anything. And to your point, a lot of
people don't know that over one hundred years ago, four
Denver firefighters died in the Moffat Tunnel trying to extinguish
a tunnel fire after a coal fired train had come
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through there and caught the timbers on fire.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Right, And so let me ask my friend if I'm ay,
and I very much appreciate your broader point, but is
there anybody in particular you think something should be named after?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
And if so, what.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Well? And that's the struggle I have because naming a
street or a building after a fallen hero, to me,
simply is not enough.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
What would you do?
Speaker 3 (15:24):
And you know, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah, that's just.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
There's any reward, just large of us to sacrifice.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Now that that is a great point, my friend.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
What what I would say is, let's not let the
perfect be the enemy of the good, and that those
are the type of people we should be honoring by
naming streets and buildings, not politicians.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
You know, those people who have lived.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
And exemplify our greatest virtues and those who have made
the ultimate sacrifice are major sacrifices in the process. I
think should be at the top of the list. Let
me play this Wiser Channel four story Sewn Boyd's story
I mentioned earlier, and it ties back into some really.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Interesting things going on in these campaigns.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Are tens of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions to
Phil Wiser.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Actually a conflict of interest.
Speaker 8 (16:17):
The attorney general is running against Senator Michael Bennett in
the Democratic primary for governor. As Vint sounds the alarm
on that money, your investigator Sean Boyd finds it actually
came from attorneys whose law firms were engaged in litigation
or settlement talks with the Attorney General's office.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
In May of twenty twenty five, four months after Attorney
General Phil Wiser launched his campaign for governor, his office
announced his settlement with cannabis company MC Global Holdings. The
company agreed to pay a fifty thousand dollars fine for
misrepresenting the health benefits of its hemp products. In the
month leading up to the settlement and the month following
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the settlement, ten attorneys at the law firm representing the
company donated more than six thousand dollars to Wiser's campaign.
The donations are legal, it's the timing of them that
raises questions, and there are more. According to campaign finance
reports reviewed by CBS Colorado, since he announced his campaign
for governor, Wiser has received seventy five thousand dollars from
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sixty eight attorneys at twelve law firms the AG's office
was engaged in litigation with or had just settled with.
We compared the dates attorneys made donations with the dates
their law firms reached settlements with the AG's office on
behalf of their clients, sixty six percent of the donations
were made within four months of the settlements. They averaged
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about thirteen hundred each. It's not the first time Wiser
has faced scrutiny over campaign contributions. Four years ago, he
was running for re election as AG when the Denver
Gazette ran a story about forty thousand dollars in donations
from people tied to Dish Network, even as the AG's
office probed whether the company had over charge customers. DirecTV
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and Comcasts were under investigation for the same alleged mimus conduct.
All three companies settled with the AG's office. According to
the TV and Comcasts had to refund customers or allow
them to keep the same service for less money. Dish
only had to agree to stop over charging subscribers.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Wiser's you get the gist, good job by Sean Boyd there.
So if you have any thoughts on the story, fine,
we'll talk about that. But I just wanted that to
trigger a talk about that campaign in general. And if
you are a conservative, if you want the best for
this date, by the GOP returning to power, who do
you want to see when Wiser or Bennett. I have
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a very strong feeling it's much more important analysis on that.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
Next you're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast, he.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Would return the money and said, quote, we cannot underscore
it enough. Bill Weiser refuses and returns any contributions from
anyone tied to a pending investigation.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
We were talking about that just before the break this
Sean Boyd piece on the Wiser campaign. As I understood
the piece, accepting some contributions from attorneys involved in engineering
a settlement with the state's sort of thing, and the
typical good reporting from Sewn Boyd. I think the broader
point of this is the question I threw at you
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before the break, and that is all right, if it's
a hunger shot kind of deal and it's going to
be either Wiser or Bennett as our next governor and
odds are right now it is doesn't mean that has
to happen, but odds are great.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
It will be.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Then who do you want it to be? Wiser or Bennett?
Or a more precise question, if you want this state
to come back from the brink, if you want this
ship to get turned around, if you want high level
conservative con servative governance in Colorado, then what's best is it?
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Is it electing Wiser or Bennett. What is the best
opportunity for the GOP to come back a Wiser governorship
or a Bennett governorship. I would love your take on that.
I've thought about it a lot. I have very concrete thoughts,
but would love yours. Three H three seven one three
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seven seventh three nine and we can walk in cho gum.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
At the same time, we're mixing.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
In the topic of you know, what would you name
after home here and so a Texter and I think
I hope we can all agree that we just shouldn't
be naming things after former politicians. And if you disagree
with the premise, I understand there are plenty of people
who do.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
But it's like, wait a second.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
These people ran for office for a reason, and there
have been some really good, noble people in office who
you know, sacrificed greatly.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
To benefit this state.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I think of Bill Owes, for example, and there have
been others, including some Democrats, because we used to have
a whole different type of Democrats, still wrong on the issues,
but really big time people before we ran into this
weird crew of kind of far left, small people Democrats,
which is what we largely have now. Interesting how that
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fits together in the same sentence. But yeah, still I
don't think we should be naming the stuff after him
because none of those people have died for this state,
in this country. And I don't think that has to
be the absolute criteria, please, But I think it has
to rank very high up there right the last full
measure of devotion. But I don't think that's an absolute criteria.
I just think then that among those who have not
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offered that last full measure of devotion, you have plenty
who have shown more physical courage, sacrificed more. And the
other thing is, wait a second. Every single person who's
run for office that I've ever seen on the face
of this earth, you know, has at best to mix motives.
And you get some noble people who they really to
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drew deeply care about the causes, and they want to
serve and they want to make society better, but they've
still got some personal motivation, and anybody gets elected governor
excuse me, or senator, etc. There is a lot in
that for them, whereas so many people who exemplify our
best virtues that there's very little in it for them.
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It's kind of much more pure service. So who would
you want to see big things named after? I'll throw
it one before I get to this text. Dave Sanders
teach your a Columbine laid down his life for his students.
If you're new to the area, the ten second version
is Columbine's under a tech. You've got straight out of
Hell demons shooting up the school, and there are many
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brave law enforcement officers who want to fight and go in,
but command won't let them. So the students are at
the mercy of the killers. And all that's left to
protect this classroom full of kids is an unarmed teacher
named Dave Sanders, and he laid down his life for
his students, died a long, fainful death in the classroom.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Laid down his life for his students.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Seems to me we should have something very very big
named after Dave Sanders, Right, yeah, thought threeout three someone
three eight two five five d An five seven seven
three nine, Dan says a Texter worst naming was your
Eppo County Detention Center named after former Sheriff Pat Sullivan.
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Being terested and sitting in the jail named after him
was a sad occurrence since he used to be a
decent person. That from Alexa, and I don't don't take
this as fact because I don't remember clearly.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I don't study Pat Sullivan.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Do you remember, Zach was that a meth situation where
he got into math got into drugs. I'm sure Alexa
will remember and tell us, But if it was, my
only point would be that is not by way of
excuse whatsoever. Anybody uses the dangerous drugs. Make the decision
to use the dangerous drugs. All I'm saying is whether
we're talking about, you know, marijuana, which is really krackle
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one of these days, which is exactly what the left
and the drug dealers, whether they're quote legal or not
wanted right, they want to hook them young, hook them forever.
The higher the potency, the easier it is to hook them.
And so I've seen people with the strongest wills imaginable
get hooked on drugs, including marijuana, and they just can't
beat it. Now, some people do, but an awful lot
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of really strong people don't. So if I remember correctly,
I think the Pat Sullivan thing might have been a
meth thing. I'll double check that again. No excuse built
in there, Dan my grandson went to STEM.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Kendrick was a true hero.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
I'm disappointed freeway sign says k Castio, not Kendrickstio. I
think that was just a length issue because of the
signage there.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Yeah, I think that was just a link issue.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
But I think it's really really cool that such a
major parkway was named after him with that big sign
on C. Four seventy, Because then what's going to happen, right,
you know, kids drive by during the car Oh, Kendrick.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Guess you know what's that debt?
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Or at least think about it, and then people learn these
are who our heroes are, which is why the last
thing we should have on the face of the earth
are these signs along the roadway.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
You know that they sell for.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Five grand apiece because people pay to support highway cleanup
in the names of drug dealers, these stores that are
selling marijuana, and this whole idea of glorifying you know,
high potency THCHC or any marijuana on license plates. Yeah see,
that's that's the opposite of what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Zach. Did you know that story? Probably not because it
isn't interesting.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
But I think I've spent seven or eight hundred bucks
in an auction police had to buy the license plate
dabbing dabb i NG, which is a horrifically dangerous form
of ingestion of high potency THC that lots of kids do.
And they do it because they can from parents and
teachers easier than you can hide leaf and the left nosis.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Right, they love that.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
They love it to the point they glorified it on
a flipping license plate that they were auctioning off. It's
horrific kids driving down the road are the state of
Colorado endorses dabbing. I bought the plate just to take
it out of circulation. I'd never put it on a car.
I just didn't want it in circulation. But so we
got the two ends of the extremes. Let's start naming
things after the people we should be naming things after.
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And let's stop, you know, taking down signs that glorify
drug use in addiction, and let's stop printing license plates
that glorify drug use and addiction. Three h three seven
to win three eight two five five the number. All right,
I'll answer my own question in this this Democrat governor's race.
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I think that if underline, if not given up, we
shouldn't give up the fact that it's an incredibly hard
battle should be more reason to stay in the battle
and fight harder.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
For no other reason.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
If we can't win the governor's race this time, then
just strengthen the party to the point where it will
be easier next time.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Because one of these two is going to be in
office if.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
A Democrat wins, Wiser Bennett, and they're not going to
do well because these lefty policies don't work and the
state's going to continue to go downhill. So you don't
want to see the GOP take a big step back
right now by flopping in this governor's race. You want
to see the GOP, if it can't win, be competitive,
be impressive, be impressive, start to change the perception of
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the GOP. So if we can't get victory next time
and it's closer, you want it to be closer, more
in reach when we get four years down the road.
So anyway, I think it's a no blank and brainer
that if you are a conservative who wants the GOP
to return to power, it is very very important that
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if it's a Democrat it be And I'll tell you
after the break, no, don't go there, Zach. I just
wanted to say that because as a listener, I hate
it when a host does that. I'll tell you right now,
it's very important that it be Michael Bennett rather than
Wiser if we have to have a Democrat, very very
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very important. The best chance, if the GOP doesn't win
it this time, and it's not looking great right now,
the best chance we're gonna have in four years is
if it's Michael Bennett instead of Phil Wiser. And I
will explain that in detail after the break.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Loving that four fifty.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
You remember seeing them up at folsome Field, you know,
really miss those kind of big stadium shows with ax
whose names you would actually recognize? Three all three someone
three eight, two five, five, five, seven seven three nine. Hey,
got a few things going on here, would love to
get your thoughts on. And one is, Hey, what big
stuff around Colorado should we be naming after people?
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Do you agree with me?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
We should not be naming anything after politicians. And if
we're going to name something after politicians, that then something
very very big should be named after Bill Owens, you know,
the only Republican governor in Colorado two term governor, but
the only Republican governor, thinking, what is it Jack?
Speaker 2 (29:22):
The last sixty years? Maybe?
Speaker 1 (29:24):
So, yeah, yeah, there should be something very big named
after Bill Owens if we're going to do that. But
I think we should be naming after others. And that
conversation was triggered by praising the naming of Kendrick Kesti
away that major thoroughfare just south of Denver.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
So love your thoughts. Who would you like to.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Name something after and who would that person be? And
are there any out there now that you want to
have taken down? That's another interesting conversation because the left
is big on that, and I think sometimes they're right
about that, but very very very often the left is wrong.
Let me get back to this business with Okay, if
it's going to be a hunger shot, if it's going
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to be Wiser or Bennett, and that's an if, right,
But as a conservative who wants the Republican Party to
return to power, which would you want? The reason before
the break, I said, I think it's a no brainer.
Conservatives want Republicans to return to power, would want Michael
Bennett to beat Phil Wiser. And here's why. Here's why.
First of all, they're both they're carbon copies far left,
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you know, and they just have different versions of the
con But Bennett is going to be far less effective
in achieving lefty goals. And it's not personal, it's just fact.
Bennett has been the least effective US senator maybe in
one hundred years, you know anybody. Can you imagine being
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in office for a generation and having so little to
show for it. No, he's completely ineffective. So he is
going to be less harmful to the state republic and
still be better, but he's going to be less harmful
to the state than Wiser. Wiser is is uh, not
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only younger, but he's he's younger acting, he's higher energy,
he's quicker. I'm not saying that that either of them
are unintelligent, not at all. They're both very intelligent people
that just have a lot of bad ideas and policies.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
But Wiser is.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Younger, uh, younger in terms of actions as well energy levels.
He's he's quicker, and he's unfortunately going to be much
more able to enact far left policies in office. He
has these political ambitions beyond the governorship, you know, whereas
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Bennett's just looking for a place to run out the clock.
And he's and he's tired of DC. You know, Wiser
has these bigger ambitions. So there's going to be a
lot more damage done by Wiser than Bennett. You know,
still rather of a Republican than either. But but that's the reality.
The other thing is, and this is a reason Wiser
may win this primary. The other is that the Democrats
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are facing a world of hurt if Michael Bennett is
their nominee for governor, because what happens on the Democrats
side then and listen, they're heading for some trouble anyway,
But what happens on the Democrats side, then what you've
got then is you've got King Michael.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Let's say he is elected governor.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
You've got King Michael appointing his successor, which is going
to infuriate everybody who is not his successor, right or
are the.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Supporter of his successor.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
So you're gonna have that civil war within the Democratic Party.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
As soon as King Michael.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Remember the Democrats, they're the Party of Democracy. Don't let
Donald Trump on the ballot, says the Party of Democracy.
Let Michael Bennett pick the next US Senator.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Says the Party of Democracy.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Well, the other is you got all these young people
within the Democratic Party. They're the energy of the Democratic Party,
they're the boots on the ground, they're.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Very far left, many of them are socialist.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
And then you've got these boring old guys who don't
accomplish anything anyway, taking all the big jobs while preaching
about DEI. They're an awful lot of Democrats sick of that.
So the ultimate expression of that is going to be
King Michael choosing his successor in the US Senate, and
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that's going to cause a lot of tension within the
Democratic Party, more than if they just had an open primary.
So the Democrats are going to be facing that problem.
The other problem they're going to have is, listen, the
guy is a far lefty as a result, bad for
this state. But the Democrats don't have a lot of talent,
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and they've got a whole lot of open socialist you know, who.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Are lining up to take over the big jobs.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Wiser is not an open socialist, and so Wiser is one.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Of the best prospects the Democrats have. So what happens here.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
If Bennett wins, then Wiser's out to pasture. Now he'll
circulate back at some point. But you've got a lot
of these Democrat powers that be thinking, you know, oh
my goodness, you know if Bennett what would just stay
in the Senate and we avoid that chaos of Bennett
leaving the Senate and appointing his successor, and we keep
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Wiser in place. So that's how they're looking at it
from a lefty standpoint. So from a conservative point of view,
who wants Republicans to return to power? Yeah, if we
have to have one of them, you'd want it to
be Michael Bennett. Love your thoughts on that, whether you
agree or diss. Three h three seven one three eight
two five five the number d an five seven seven
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three nine. But that's one of things that drives me
a little bit crazy about this unusual nature of the
GOP primary is we've got some opportunity coming because the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Have a new generation will generate.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Let me put it this way, to be precise, the
Democrats have a generation of wackos coming up.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Now, these are really smart.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
People, really articulate people, really motivated people, in most cases
far more skilled, far more skilled than the current crop
of Democrats who hold high office or are an immediate
succession for it, but they are uber far left in
most cases open socialist, and the Democrat Party is facing
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that civil war. The other thing is and listen, I'm
very grateful that Donald Trump won these two terms, saved
American democracy in sixteen and has done a world of
good for the United States and the world in this
second term, but he's not beloved by independence and conservative
Democrats in Colorado, and so the Democrats now are facing
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the problem of after this term, Donald Trump being off.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
The table politically, so so critical.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
The GOP fight its best fight now, but doesn't appear
poised to do that.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Let's hope that changes.