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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, and welcome to Ross on the News with
Gina and with producer Dragon as well. I'm going to
jump right into just not keep my guest waiting around
any longer. Tim Manilla is a senior Constitutionalism Fellow at
the Goldwater Institute, which is a great organization and has
been for many, many years Goldwaterinstitute dot org. And let
(00:21):
me just set this up by saying, we are going
to talk about a problem at a very specific organization.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
But I want to have.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
This conversation because to me, this is representative of a
much bigger problem across so much of academia and other
parts of our society that impact us.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
So while on the surface this looks like a story
about a.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Particular journal that most of you will never read, it's actually,
I think a much bigger story than that. It is
about something called the American Political.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Science Review, and Tim and the.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Folks over at the Goldwater Institute put out a remarkable
report a couple of days ago entitled radical Activists hijacked
a top political science journal with far reaching consequences, And
the far reaching consequences are the main thing I want.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
To talk about.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
So Tim, welcome to Kowa and thanks for making time
for us.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I appreciate it. Ross, It's great to be here. Thanks
for having me. Okay, so we.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Got about six minutes, so give me some concise.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Answers and we'll get as much as we can.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
In first big picture, why is this particular journal so important?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
The American Political Science Review is one of the top
journals in the discipline of political science. If you get
your article as a political scientist published in this journal,
you're well on your way to getting grants, to getting tenure.
This is a very elite journal that you that most
political science want want to get their article into, and
(01:57):
so it operates as a kind of de facto gatekey
or of academic research. If your articles published here, the
thing goes well. This is legitimate, high level, cutting edge
research that you should be rewarded for as an academic.
What we found in this report is that this top
level journal so called was taken over by a group
(02:18):
of radical activists that called themselves the Feminists Collective. That's
their term for themselves, not mine, and they instituted a
radical overhaul of the journal in which they promised to
racially discriminate against people of certain races who are submitting
to the journal. They also favored research in progressive issues,
(02:43):
progressive natiche issues, race, gender, sexual orientation. And it shows
that the reason why it is important, like you just said,
is that even if you never read this journal, this
is the standard by which academics are judge and how
they advanced in their discipline. And if this process is
corrupt of doing the quality control for academic research, then
(03:07):
we need to question the whole system in how we
advance faculty, how we hire faculty in higher ed in particular.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
So for listeners.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
And there's this amazing example in Tim's report for the
Goldwater Institute, there was an article published entitled Wages for Earthwork,
And I'll actually quote from a National Review article about
Tim's study.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
In one example, Wages.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
For Earthwork, the studies author proposes wages or reparations to
indigenous peoples for debt ode to them for their devalued
climate work. I contend the author says that revaluing earthwork
must also be central to projects aimed at decolonializing climate
justice and wider structural transformation of colonial capitalism. Now to me, Tim,
(04:00):
what that sounds like is one of these people who
tries to play a prank on a publication by sending
them an article that is such complete nonsense gobbledegook filled
with all the latest buzzwords that means absolutely nothing. But
apparently they actually meant this as a serious article.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Oh absolutely.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
And what I find striking about that article, Like you said,
it kind of sounds like a prank. But the article
is about advocating for a very radical policy of reparations
to indigenous groups. And it's not about objective analysis of
the policy or the issues of environmental policy. It's I
(04:46):
advocate for reparations. That's not just the only example. We
found another article advocates for the quote unquote socialization of housework.
This is the kind of so called cutting edge politically
science research that is in a so called scholarly publication.
This isn't Slate, this isn't The Atlantic, this isn't The
(05:08):
New York Times. Even this is supposed to be an
academic journal, And this is what is getting through.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
We're talking with Tim Minella from the Goldwater Institute the
website Goldwaterinstitute dot org.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Their new report is called.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Radical Activists Hijacked a top political science journal with far
reaching consequences. I've got about a minute left here, and
what I want to talk about briefly now. One of
my favorite political economist types is Frederick Bastiatt, and he
always talks about that which.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Is seen and that which is not seen. So in
this case, that which.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Is seen as a bunch of stupid articles that never
should have been published anywhere except for somebody's personal blog.
But how about what is not seen, like what didn't
get published because this junk did.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
It's a great point.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
We found that there were a grand total of three
three articles out of over five hundred over five years
that they published that directly addressed the constitution of the
United States or the constitutions of the fifty States. So
think about that three out of over five hundred. That
(06:15):
compares to over one hundred articles that address race, gender,
sexual orientation, et cetera. This is the kind of research
that is just simply not being done by the elite
ranks of political scientists. Core principles of our system of
government are simply being ignored. That's something we need to
(06:36):
reincentivize in academia, and our policy that we've developed starts
the process towards doing that.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And I will also note that one of the side
effects of this gang of radicals running this magazine is
or this journal, is that if you were a straight
white guy, you had almost no chance of getting published,
almost regardless of what you were writing about.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Very very quick.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Is this changing? Are these people still in charge? What's
the story?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
So they only had a four year term as editors,
But I think despite the fact that they are no
longer the official editors because their term wound up, it's
still very frightening that they were given free reign over
this journal for four years. And like you said, one
of their promises was, we're going to automatically advance articles
(07:27):
by people of a certain race and by women, and
we're not going to automatically advance papers by white males.
That's the kind of disturbing thing they promised to do,
and they still were given control of this journal. So
it shows how far gone some parts of academia are.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Well.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Tim Manila with the Goldwater Institute Goldwaterinstitute dot org. If
you forget any of this, it's all up on my
blog at Roskimiski dot com.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Tim, thanks for your time, appreciate it. Thank you.
Good morning, and welcome to Ross on the News with
Gina and with producer Dragon as well. I'm going to
jump right into just not keep my guest waiting around
any longer. Tim Manilla is a senior Constitutionalism Fellow at
the Goldwater Institute, which is a great organization and has
been for many, many years Goldwaterinstitute dot org. And let
(00:21):
me just set this up by saying, we are going
to talk about a problem at a very specific organization.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
But I want to have.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
This conversation because to me, this is representative of a
much bigger problem across so much of academia and other
parts of our society that impact us.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
So while on the surface this looks like a story
about a.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Particular journal that most of you will never read, it's actually,
I think a much bigger story than that. It is
about something called the American Political.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Science Review, and Tim and the.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Folks over at the Goldwater Institute put out a remarkable
report a couple of days ago entitled radical Activists hijacked
a top political science journal with far reaching consequences, And
the far reaching consequences are the main thing I want.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
To talk about.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
So Tim, welcome to Kowa and thanks for making time
for us.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I appreciate it. Ross, It's great to be here. Thanks
for having me. Okay, so we.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Got about six minutes, so give me some concise.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Answers and we'll get as much as we can.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
In first big picture, why is this particular journal so important?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
The American Political Science Review is one of the top
journals in the discipline of political science. If you get
your article as a political scientist published in this journal,
you're well on your way to getting grants, to getting tenure.
This is a very elite journal that you that most
political science want want to get their article into, and
(01:57):
so it operates as a kind of de facto gatekey
or of academic research. If your articles published here, the
thing goes well. This is legitimate, high level, cutting edge
research that you should be rewarded for as an academic.
What we found in this report is that this top
level journal so called was taken over by a group
(02:18):
of radical activists that called themselves the Feminists Collective. That's
their term for themselves, not mine, and they instituted a
radical overhaul of the journal in which they promised to
racially discriminate against people of certain races who are submitting
to the journal. They also favored research in progressive issues,
(02:43):
progressive natiche issues, race, gender, sexual orientation. And it shows
that the reason why it is important, like you just said,
is that even if you never read this journal, this
is the standard by which academics are judge and how
they advanced in their discipline. And if this process is
corrupt of doing the quality control for academic research, then
(03:07):
we need to question the whole system in how we
advance faculty, how we hire faculty in higher ed in particular.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
So for listeners.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
And there's this amazing example in Tim's report for the
Goldwater Institute, there was an article published entitled Wages for Earthwork,
And I'll actually quote from a National Review article about
Tim's study.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
In one example, Wages.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
For Earthwork, the studies author proposes wages or reparations to
indigenous peoples for debt ode to them for their devalued
climate work. I contend the author says that revaluing earthwork
must also be central to projects aimed at decolonializing climate
justice and wider structural transformation of colonial capitalism. Now to me, Tim,
(04:00):
what that sounds like is one of these people who
tries to play a prank on a publication by sending
them an article that is such complete nonsense gobbledegook filled
with all the latest buzzwords that means absolutely nothing. But
apparently they actually meant this as a serious article.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Oh absolutely.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
And what I find striking about that article, Like you said,
it kind of sounds like a prank. But the article
is about advocating for a very radical policy of reparations
to indigenous groups. And it's not about objective analysis of
the policy or the issues of environmental policy. It's I
(04:46):
advocate for reparations. That's not just the only example. We
found another article advocates for the quote unquote socialization of housework.
This is the kind of so called cutting edge politically
science research that is in a so called scholarly publication.
This isn't Slate, this isn't The Atlantic, this isn't The
(05:08):
New York Times. Even this is supposed to be an
academic journal, And this is what is getting through.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
We're talking with Tim Minella from the Goldwater Institute the
website Goldwaterinstitute dot org.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Their new report is called.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Radical Activists Hijacked a top political science journal with far
reaching consequences. I've got about a minute left here, and
what I want to talk about briefly now. One of
my favorite political economist types is Frederick Bastiatt, and he
always talks about that which.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Is seen and that which is not seen. So in
this case, that which.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Is seen as a bunch of stupid articles that never
should have been published anywhere except for somebody's personal blog.
But how about what is not seen, like what didn't
get published because this junk did.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
It's a great point.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
We found that there were a grand total of three
three articles out of over five hundred over five years
that they published that directly addressed the constitution of the
United States or the constitutions of the fifty States. So
think about that three out of over five hundred. That
(06:15):
compares to over one hundred articles that address race, gender,
sexual orientation, et cetera. This is the kind of research
that is just simply not being done by the elite
ranks of political scientists. Core principles of our system of
government are simply being ignored. That's something we need to
(06:36):
reincentivize in academia, and our policy that we've developed starts
the process towards doing that.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And I will also note that one of the side
effects of this gang of radicals running this magazine is
or this journal, is that if you were a straight
white guy, you had almost no chance of getting published,
almost regardless of what you were writing about.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Very very quick.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Is this changing? Are these people still in charge? What's
the story?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
So they only had a four year term as editors,
But I think despite the fact that they are no
longer the official editors because their term wound up, it's
still very frightening that they were given free reign over
this journal for four years. And like you said, one
of their promises was, we're going to automatically advance articles
(07:27):
by people of a certain race and by women, and
we're not going to automatically advance papers by white males.
That's the kind of disturbing thing they promised to do,
and they still were given control of this journal. So
it shows how far gone some parts of academia are.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Well.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Tim Manila with the Goldwater Institute Goldwaterinstitute dot org. If
you forget any of this, it's all up on my
blog at Roskimiski dot com.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Tim, thanks for your time, appreciate it. Thank you.
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