The Troubleshooter 3-13-25

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, ripped up.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
News, need advice?

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Who you don't have? Come run in just as fast
as we can.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Shooter's gonna help Come.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Dix is the Troubleshooter Show.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
No Tom Martine, Hello, Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show.
This is, as I say every day, the only show
that it's kind of anywhere in the universe.

Speaker 5 (00:31):
We invented it.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
It's been the longest running radio show in history with well,
not in history, I'm sorry, the longest running radio show
with the same hosts currently on the air. Not in history.
There have been shows running longer. And by the way, welcome.
We love having you. We want you to call with
problems that tick you off and things that make you
tick everyday life. I'm bringing in the studio now for
those streaming you'll see a bunch of ugly faces.

Speaker 6 (00:54):
There.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
We have our co host Mark and I don't really
like the word code it denotes well, I want to
say sub co host subcome subco and then sub sub
and then and then sub subco would be John Fuller.
Oh no god, I don't want to And then we
have our guest who elevates, who gets elevated to the top,

(01:17):
and that is Brook and she is with red rocks,
roof and solar.

Speaker 7 (01:21):
So we have a full house there, you staff, everyone, Doc,
you skipped over Sus. You skipped over Kelly, you skipped over.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
Sh I don't see Sus.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
I don't see Sus in the studio, but I see
I see Deputy Doc, and hey Sus and hey Kelly.

Speaker 5 (01:36):
And then we have on the board is it dragon?

Speaker 4 (01:38):
Because I didn't hear I haven't heard Shannon's loud mouth,
So what do you say? We uh, we go to
the phones and see what's on your mind, and go
to the news and see what's on everybody's mind. And
they're there. There's a lot to talk about today, Okay,
now people my gosh, and Mark of course says, I
always read too much one side not the other.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
I'm looking all over there are there is an uproar.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
There's an uproar over the EPA saying massive deregulations of stuff,
and we are going to unleash the power of America
and we're not going to worry about climate change. Basically,
if it burns, burn it, if it smells, smell it,
and if it emits smoke, smoke it.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
I'm just kidding.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
They're saying that the regulations for too long have stifled
the environment. Not the environment, but stifled economic growth. Then
there are those on the other side decrying this, saying,
oh my god, oh my god, everything that President Biden
has done to protect our environment is being torn down.

Speaker 5 (02:43):
We are surely on our way to destruction.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
And I bring up this movie because David Sirota was
once a talk show hosts here. He didn't last long.
He had a liberal bend, and he was He's quite intelligent.
He wrote that that play that I think he was
nominated for an Academy Award. Don't look up about this
meteor heading toward Earth, And the whole idea was it
was all about climate change. In other words, if you

(03:09):
ignore it, it's still coming and there's nothing you can
do about it. I don't know if you've noticed this either,
but especially Al Roker on the Today Show never gives
a forecast ever without some dire message.

Speaker 5 (03:21):
If it's really.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
Extra warm global warming, if it's extra cold climate change,
it's if there fires climate change, if there's floods climate change,
Everything everything is climate change. I've said this before. You
can really sum up everything. If you want to blame everything,
you can blame everything on three things.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
What are they? Climate change? What's the other one? Come on?
The R word?

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Trump?

Speaker 5 (03:47):
Racism and Trump. Those are the three.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
So if you want somebody to blame for anything or
something to blame, it's it's first, climate, it's become. Well,
they're all the same. There's not one second to third
or fourth? All right, or excuse me, first, second, and
third we have Trump, climate change, and racism, so any
one of those can be blamed for anything. Now, on
a serious note, I'm getting some questions about Tom.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
Does this mean the.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
Shift to EV's will be lightened up or do you
think the move toward EV's is still going to be
a deadline.

Speaker 5 (04:25):
What do you guys think about that?

Speaker 7 (04:26):
Well, EV push, I take climate out of it. I
don't care about anything.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
They're quiet, right, They're faster.

Speaker 7 (04:34):
Than anything else. The battery powers better, and they drive themselves.
So that's what I love. I love them. Now, Mark,
they don't all drive themselves. Well, that's true, the Tesla testless.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
No, really, it's the only one that truly drives itself.
And what do you think, John, are you ready for
an EV No, sir, no, we just can't tell me
why seriously, Well.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
They don't work for my needs. And you know what
does that mean? Well, what does that mean? You don't
try that much? Well, we do. We actually drive across
country a couple of times a year, and so they're
and you know, they're just not appropriate for that kind
of an application. I mean, I you know, it just

(05:22):
doesn't work. And in the in the environment okay that
I keep those vehicles, they're not you know, it's not
a very good environment. So it just doesn't work for us.
We do have a hybrid, but it's not a plug
in hybrid. It's it just kind of does its own thing. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:38):
Yeah, I don't like hybrids. Then you have two systems
to worry about.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
But anyway, when are they going to come out with
the big motor homes and over the road trucks electric?

Speaker 5 (05:49):
I mean really, I.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
Mean market are you seen on the motor home front?
Are there any EV motor homes?

Speaker 7 (05:55):
I can't imagine what the weight would come in. That
would be just that'd be unbelievable. You take something like
a prevay well hold one.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
You could do away with a series.

Speaker 7 (06:06):
Yeah, well, I mean come on, you're still gonna have
fifty thousand pounds plus whatever that battery is. I mean
you could be I mean you could be eighty ninety
one hundred thousand pounds. I don't even know if you
could go over some bridges.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
But they do have some electric semis out now. But
I mean, I don't think the range is super high.
And the deal with an RV is you know you
you're looking for that range and you're not. I don't know,
I don't see that technology being embraced, but you can't.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
Here's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
For everything else, you're seeing electric come along, like boat
motors and everything else. So it also depends on what.

Speaker 8 (06:44):
You know, like say, ranges, range is the main fact.

Speaker 7 (06:47):
Now, I mean you're not coming through doc.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
Yeah no, he yeah, that's a good thing. By the way,
Hold on a second. I was just kidding. Here's what
I see. These are the road trucks.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
If you if you picture these big, these big.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
Cabs, and then you have the trailer, you have the tractor,
you have the trailer on the tractor. I would like
to I envision under the hood or behind the sleeper, there.

Speaker 5 (07:16):
Is a pod that can be exchanged.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
In other words, they're universal battery pods that you disconnect
one connect another, so there's no downtime. Although a lot
of truckers that they want downtime, you know, and they're
eating and stuff.

Speaker 5 (07:30):
They can do that.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
But wouldn't that be good for cars too, if there
was ever a way to have pods that are interchanged
as opposed to being built in, like like.

Speaker 7 (07:40):
If I don't know, see, those superchargers are going to
be quicker than pulling in somewhere and swapping.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
A battery, right, really really yeah?

Speaker 7 (07:50):
I mean I can get taken two hundred miles in
about seven minutes. I mean that's pretty impressive. No, that
really is impressive. That really really is impressive. And then
I hear there's going to be highways eventually with induction.
So when you're driving your charging or solar, Why why

(08:11):
doesn't Tesla have roof solar? I got it would take,
it would take That's a good question for Brook though,
But I mean, really, how long would it take to
how long is it take to charge a phone with
a little solar.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
I'm not talking I'm not.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
Talking about a supercharger, but if it was constantly Brook,
if a nice roofline was and the hoodline, let's just
say Bill, it had some kind of some kind of
photo will take covering the whole thing. If it's always outside,
wouldn't it it would always be charging, right.

Speaker 9 (08:47):
Yeah, I mean I think that there's some really cool
ways that you can pop solar into this conversation. There
is actually somebody that patented a way to put solar
panels on the roads.

Speaker 10 (08:59):
Instead of you asphalt roads, we would use solar panel.

Speaker 9 (09:02):
Roads and they would connect into it, and then that
would help charge the cars as they went through and
then also different charging stations a lot more frequently. So
there's some really interesting ideas out there right now for
how to put solar into charging cross country travels.

Speaker 7 (09:18):
Right now, if you took a solar panel, a big
one or multiple ones, and strapped it to the top
of a car, I bet it would take five days
to even come close to charging a car.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
No, no, yeah, but Mark, but if you once you're charged, though,
I'm talking about keeping it, like you know, not necessarily
topped off, but extending range.

Speaker 5 (09:38):
For sure, it has to. It would have to.

Speaker 9 (09:40):
They're solar panels right now that you can put on
your car that are foldable and they like flex to
the top of your vehicle.

Speaker 10 (09:46):
If you would want to.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
Now, you know, and we're not talking about ugging things up,
but some you know, someday, and I predict.

Speaker 5 (09:54):
This, and obviously it's not a big prediction.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
We're going to look around and we're not gonna believe
that we've had all of this free solar energy bombarding
the earth for thousands and thousands of years and never
took advantage of it.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
We every single day.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
Do you know how much free energy is just falling
upon us from the sun? I mean, think about it,
if just harnessing it, you know, I mean, we have
more than enough sunlight for almost anything we need to do,
and when you throw storage into it, we really have
the technology now to do it.

Speaker 5 (10:32):
It's just very expensive, you know.

Speaker 7 (10:34):
Anyway, on that note, just real quick, I looked it
up and basically, let's not forget. I mean, Tesla owns
an entire you know, solar division, So if anybody's going
to throw it on their car, you would assume it's
going to be Tesla because they own both companies, or
it's all the same company. But it says they don't
do it because the surface area of the car is
way insufficient to generate any meaningful amount of energy to

(10:58):
power the vehicle and the cost complexity of integrating such
a system are simply not justified.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
All right, So Mark, going into this break, give me
an update on your Denver Regen dot com.

Speaker 7 (11:11):
Well, an update on it. I mean it's great. I'm
almost over thirty pounds in less than well what we're
coming up on twelve weeks. I think I took my
eleventh shot on Wednesday and I'm a little under two
hundred for the first time in a long time. I
started right around to twenty eight, a little blow two thirty,
So it's incredible. The biggest part of it, Tom, is

(11:32):
I simply, and I mean this, I simply don't think
of food. I don't have that food noise, which is crazy.
And with Denver Regens, you know it's under three hundred
dollars a month. You can go to Denverregen dot com. Here,
I'll turn it into a commercial because I'm so happy
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(11:53):
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(12:36):
Martinez here three oh three seven to one three talks
seven one three A two five five. For those streaming,
I apologize for the right side of the screen screen left.
We got pretty screen right, we have ugly. We just
split it right and Mark's right in the middle, so
you got to figure out what he is anyway we
have we let me give a full shot there of

(12:57):
the studio. There, there you go, There you go, John
full I'm glad you got dressed up for us today.

Speaker 5 (13:03):
And then uh Brooks got her classic blue.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
Uh that's the Red Rocks RS color. And then Sues
of course always the fashion plate.

Speaker 5 (13:14):
So let's deputy doc.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
I won't even comments at least uh you're there and
we love That's why I'm out of the Uh.

Speaker 5 (13:23):
No, you're not.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
You're kind of in it, but I can I can
change that anyway. Three oh three seven one three eight
two five five. On a serious note, though, truly, if
you have a problem, question or plant, give us a call.
I do have some texts I'm going to get to
on problems on three O three seven one three eight
two five five. In fact one happens to be on
personal jury John Fuller. They want to know if dash

(13:44):
cams actually can hold up for court and how can
people know that? You know, how do you make them
valid or can you actually introduce them as evidence?

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Absolutely? Yep. They are a you know, a four K
live color video that can be self authenticated by the
people that are in the video as to what's going
on and where and when it took place. And they
are absolutely admissible. The coolest thing about them is when
you have them, you almost never need to admit them

(14:15):
because liability becomes a non issue.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
Okay, So the bottom line is, you got you got evidence.

Speaker 5 (14:25):
Now that evidence could be damning.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
As well, obviously, right, I mean, you know it's not
always not your fault, but have people been putting other
kinds of cams? Somebody asked they were sideswiped one time,
and they said that their cam wouldn't have shown anything.
Are there such things? I don't even know? I mean, like,
I know your Tesla Mark probably Mark. Your tesla probably

(14:47):
has like all kinds of h Yeah, it's got side
cams and like, if you're in an accident, Mark, you
don't need to buy separate cameras.

Speaker 5 (14:56):
Your car would have everything recorded.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Is that right back?

Speaker 7 (14:59):
It'll go back ten seconds from the incident, So if
somebody hit me, it would go back ten seconds before
they hit me.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
And can you download that? Yeah? You can? Okay? Yeah, Also,
so would.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
You have to though, would you have to save that
since it's overwritten every ten seconds?

Speaker 7 (15:15):
No, it's overwritten every thirty days. The ones that are
saved an event an event is saved for thirty days.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah, And most dash cams tom they detect a crash
and they they already saved that footage. They like they
put a protective code on it or something, and it
won't delete that footage when it happens. To answer your question, though,
there's three types of cameras that you can get in
a dash cam forward looking, rear looking, and inside the

(15:44):
passenger compartment looking, and not many people really want that,
but I can tell you in a side impact crash
or you know, something along those lines, seeing what happened
to the occupants can be very valuable in explaining the
type of injuries they got and what really happened to
them as a result of the accident.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
You know, I was driving behind someone the other day
and they were swerving so much I thought they were drunk.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
Honest to god, I got afraid.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Now.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
I don't know if I should drop back or just
try to get ahead of them and around them. So
I decided to pull up alongside and just go in
front so I could get away from them because they
were lagging. And as I looked over, it was simply
some young woman texting. Yep, and she was driving like
a drunk person. I mean, I'm serious when I say this.

(16:32):
I have stopped doing that nonsense and all that crap,
But I can't believe there are people that text while
they're driving, and they do it no matter what they say,
no matter what you tell them, they do it. And
there's got to be there should be some kind of
technology available to prevent texting. It should literally, absolutely positively,
your phone should lock down, So when you're driving you

(16:54):
can't text. You can call maybe, but don't you agree?

Speaker 5 (16:58):
I mean this it seems to me.

Speaker 7 (17:00):
Yeah, But why not outlaw putting makeup on them? I mean,
why not outlaw?

Speaker 5 (17:05):
Well?

Speaker 4 (17:05):
Why?

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Well?

Speaker 7 (17:06):
Okay, I mean, of course, seriously, why a nanny state
like that? I think that's ridiculous. I have stopped putting
makeup on in the car. I can tell by looking
at you, you know so.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
But seriously, Mark, I'm talking about technology with a car.
I'm not talking I'm talking about phones, like for example,
when they myke car.

Speaker 7 (17:25):
Knows if I am holding my phone knows and it'll
turn off auto pilot if I'm holding my phone or
not paying attention, So my car does it.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
Honestly, it's I would like a phone. I would like
phones where you cannot text. You absolutely cannot text when
in motion. It's that simple. People get killed and and John,
is there a way when you when one of your
clients is hit like this person is bound to hit
someone from from behind, I'm sure because she was slamming

(17:56):
on her brakes every five seconds whenever somebody ahead of
her slowed down because she that lag time. Is there
a way can you as evidence. Can you literally ask,
like like about texting? Can you go into a phone
as part of your evidentiary search?

Speaker 2 (18:12):
Yeah, you can, and we get subpoena that you know.
But but here's the thing, like, really, what are you
going to get in those phone records? You're going to
get the precise second that a text was sent. That
doesn't mean that the person didn't spend the previous you know,
two minutes reading a text and then deciding what they
were going to say and then fumbling through typing it
and misspelling something.

Speaker 12 (18:33):
Now that they're texting, Yeah, but what if you can
show they're texting while they're I'm just talking about in general,
you can show the habit of texting right up to
the moment of impact.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, you can show that. I mean it doesn't All
that I'm trying to say is that it doesn't make it.

Speaker 7 (18:53):
How does that make it the fact they were texting
the fault of the accident? I don't understand that.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
That's the That's the difficult leap to make. No, Tom,
nobody disputes it. It's distracting and it's not a good thing.
Nobody's disputing that. But how do you take the instance
that a text was received at four forty three, and
make that the cause of the accident. You know, you
don't know that the person picked up their phone, looked
at it, read it. Somebody in the passenger compartment.

Speaker 7 (19:21):
That I mean, answer is my text when I'm driving.
I'm kidding.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
So it's very difficult to take that momentary comment about
it could have been somebody.

Speaker 5 (19:32):
It could have been somebody in the car if there
was someone.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
But I just think that, you know, I know of
a case very personally. Okay, Now, this woman, two little kids,
her husband's out jogging, he come, he never comes home.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
He's dead.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
He was hit by and they established that the person
was texting, okay, and vehicular manslaughter.

Speaker 5 (19:56):
They were prosecuted.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Good.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
But she went on a campaign on a campaign, and
I don't know what happened to that campaign about texting
and driving, And it's just it's so needless. And I
don't care what anyone says. You cannot pay attention. You cannot.
I used to do. I used to try to look
down and text a word or two. I swear I did.

(20:18):
And I can't tell you how many times I regretted
it because I came so close and I decided a
long time ago I would never text while driving.

Speaker 5 (20:27):
Never.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
Now, if I really have to get messages out and
stuff and I don't want to call, I'll pull over.
But when you see people you don't know if they're
drunk or they're texting. That's how bad it is. And
I want to know from people. I want them to
admit if they do it, and why they do it.
There's nothing that important, and why how about GPS data?

Speaker 7 (20:47):
So like so John, So we understand the video and
we understand what we're talking about now the text. But
let's say someone hits you and you think they're drunk
and you want to bring that is part of it,
you know, for court. Can you actually get data from say,
you know, like Hondi's got blue lay Can, Chevy has

(21:09):
whatever Chevy calls it, and they know the manufacturer knows
everywhere that car went. My god, Tesla knows every single
place I've ever been. Can you get that data to
show hey, he was out bar hopping right before this
or no?

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah, I mean you can. You can get all those downloads.
I mean, they're not easy and you need experts and
it's very expensive. So it's going to take a particular
case to justify that expense. You wouldn't do it on
just the average little rear end accident or something. But
you can technically do that. You know, there are apps
out there that we've used, Like there are parental control

(21:46):
apps that parents can can put on that give you
great data. We mean those great data. Yeah. Speed how
you know how many times they exceeded the speed quick
where they went quick breaking, quick acceleration, I mean all
that kind of stuff, And that is tremendously valuable when
you can put your hands on that.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
Okay, guys, I got to take a break.

Speaker 5 (22:08):
I have some texts for Brook.

Speaker 4 (22:10):
One is specifically about commercial solar systems. What is considered
a commercial operation. They're interested in what's called a reap
grand And again I want to clarify when can the
government help pay for commercial systems? What is the commercial system?
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(23:37):
Brooke is with us From red Rocks RS, Red Rocks
roof and Solar. We talk a lot about these regrants
and getting commercial operations paid for one hundred percent, where
there are actually examples of people when they put the
they put the system in, they get paid for it,
so they didn't pay for that. Then they charge their
tenants a reasonable electric fee and they make money there

(23:58):
and they sell back to the grid and make money there.
And brook A White they are actually making a profit.

Speaker 5 (24:06):
On a pro solar system, Yes they are. So my question,
how do you get in on this, on this graft?

Speaker 7 (24:16):
Yeah, I mean, after all these I'm just kidding too,
after all the cuts, these are these grants still available
as of now.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
And I was just kidding around. I was just kidding around.
It's totally legit. Tell me about the REAP grant and
what it does.

Speaker 9 (24:28):
Yeah, so the REAP grant last application is actually this month,
so it's too late to get in on it now.

Speaker 10 (24:34):
But the state of Colorado has its own grid.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
They're doing aspiring completely. Is REAP expiring completely.

Speaker 9 (24:40):
They're not sure if they're going to bring it back
or not. As Mark said, with a lot of stuff
that's going on right now, things are up in the air.

Speaker 10 (24:47):
But this application deadline is still safe.

Speaker 5 (24:52):
Okay, So when's the deadline.

Speaker 9 (24:55):
It's March thirty first, So if I haven't been working
with you already, it's too late to start the process.
But the difference between like commercial versus non commercial or
any of those things, we can go through, or we
can talk about the micro grid grant that the state
of Colorado has.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
Well, let's talk about what the GREEP grant did. Do
the REP grant tell me, tell me what it did
for people.

Speaker 9 (25:17):
Yeah, So what is considered commercial is if the uh
there was a business in LLC something that had an
ei N that was on the contract for the project,
and that the project itself was either built on a
business or built on a detached structure of a home
or a farm. And so with those, those are the

(25:39):
qualifications in order to do it.

Speaker 10 (25:40):
And then the REAP grant would.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
So Brooke, Brooke, not not to interrupt, but like my
house here, I use for business and I have this
whole studio and I have an LLC and and could
I literally do it at a residential house that has
commercial activity?

Speaker 10 (25:57):
Yeah, you definitely could. The only issue is is that
you would.

Speaker 9 (26:00):
Need a detached garage to put the panels on, because
they cannot go on a house.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
I see, Yep, that's interesting, Okay, so keep going.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
What happens then when you qualify like a farmer, an
egg farmer, or maybe a greenhouse, somebody who has plants
or they're you know, they have a commercial operation, they
what do they do?

Speaker 5 (26:18):
They get it? Actually, the system paid for.

Speaker 9 (26:21):
Yeah, So between the tax credits and depreciation and the
reimbursement from the REP grant, it's one hundred and eight
percent of the project. So if the project was one
hundred thousand, they get paid eight grant to do the project.
Plus they get either they're electric bill paid for or
they are charging their tenants, so they're making income off
of it. So yep, one of the way, they're either

(26:42):
saving money or they're making money, depending on their specific
scenario and also their tax library.

Speaker 5 (26:47):
I wonder of that. I wonder if they'll ever bring
it back.

Speaker 10 (26:49):
What do you think I would guess that.

Speaker 9 (26:53):
I mean, the repe grant's been around forever, it's been
around for thirty years. It's just got a lot more
funding that happens during the an administration. So my guess is,
whoever the next administrator is may put funds back into it,
or the Trump administration may do so. In twenty twenty six,
twenty twenty seven. You know, it's definitely not a dead
program since it's been along been around so long. I

(27:15):
just think that there's so many changes going on right
now that it's not the major folks.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
Okay, there was another program you mentioned now and yeah,
well Colorado one with Colorado.

Speaker 9 (27:26):
Yeah, so the state of Colorado has a grant for
microgrids and it's actually a little bit cooler than the
repe grant and the fact that it doesn't have a
million dollar cap.

Speaker 10 (27:35):
Its cap is two point five million.

Speaker 9 (27:38):
So there's some different requirements that go into it, but essentially,
as long as you're showing that you're putting together a
micro grid in an area of need, you're eligible to
get funded for this project.

Speaker 10 (27:50):
And it's really cool.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
Okay, explain what a micro grid would be like? Would
a developer do that in a subdivision or would it
can an individual do it?

Speaker 5 (27:58):
What is a micro grid?

Speaker 9 (28:00):
Yeah, so it's a pretty loose definition from the State
of Colorado. So a microgrid even was one of their
projects that they funded was just powering a library. So
the library had a solar system and had a battery
so that if power went down, the community could go
there as.

Speaker 10 (28:16):
Like a safe haven, if you will.

Speaker 9 (28:20):
And so it could be as small as just one
building to as big as powering a town.

Speaker 10 (28:26):
You know.

Speaker 9 (28:26):
Going up to two and a half million as a
match means that you could do a five million.

Speaker 10 (28:30):
Dollar project on this.

Speaker 9 (28:31):
That's a pretty big project, you know, but you could
go as small as, like I said, just powering a
building too.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
And does it pay a part of it or does
it pay for all of it?

Speaker 10 (28:42):
It matches what you do.

Speaker 9 (28:44):
So if you have a project, okay, if you have
a project that produces four bago hours of power annually,
they will do one hundred percent match, which means it's
fifty percent of the project. If you have something less
than that, then they do a thirty percent match, which
ends being about twenty five percent of the products.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
Okay, gotcha. Okay, that makes sense. So that's available only
to commercial operations that have a community benefit.

Speaker 9 (29:11):
Yes, you would have to tie into a community benefit, absolutely.

Speaker 5 (29:17):
Okay, So schools could do that, well.

Speaker 10 (29:21):
Anybody could. I mean schools can do that, a farm
can do that, anybody.

Speaker 9 (29:25):
They can just say that these are the things that
we're able to power. Because if you build a community
and a farm and you and three other farmers have
access to this power, then you're building a community that's
going to have access to things if the grid goes
down and keep things operating at a higher level. So
your basis of community is a little bit laxed on
this project.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
Well, I don't want to ask this, and I don't
mean this as a joke. I mean this sincerely. A
neighborhood tavern says, Hey, a lot of people gather here
and i'd like to have if power goes down, this
solar backup. Would that be? Could that be considered a
community project? And I mean that a restaurant or tavern.

Speaker 9 (30:03):
Yeah, I mean I think as long as the restaurant
or tavern can say, you know, once a month we
hold you know, an educational thing, or once a month
we do something for political purposes or educational they have trivia. Yeah,
I mean you can't just say, hey, we're a bar
and we want to hang out and make sure that
we can watch the Broncos game. Right, There's got to
be you know, some sort of I got the benefit to.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
It, No, I get what you're saying. Yeah, And I'm
not always looking for the for the for the game
in it. I'm just wondering, you know, how far they
go because I you know, let's face that a lot
of these programs are taken advantage of.

Speaker 5 (30:34):
But Brooke, I got to take a break.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
But real quick, do you find people knowing about these
benefits and using them or is this something you have
to educate people about.

Speaker 10 (30:43):
Oh, I always have to educate folks on how.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
Do you get the word out about it? I mean
really about like, hey, did you know you?

Speaker 5 (30:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (30:51):
There might be people out there right now that want
us a system but didn't know they could do it
this way. So I mean, what does the state do
to promote this kind of stuff?

Speaker 9 (31:00):
Honestly, the state doesn't have a whole lot of ways
to promote these kind of items. You can just look
on Google or look on different websites, or be added
to their email list to see if there's any updates.
But really it's the developers or the solar installers that
are always looking for this because that's how.

Speaker 10 (31:17):
We make our money.

Speaker 13 (31:18):
Right.

Speaker 10 (31:18):
If we can make it a cheaper product for you
to buy, it's easier for us to sell it.

Speaker 5 (31:24):
Thank you, Brooke.

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three talks everyone three A two five five. We've been
talking a number of things. Let's go to the phones
right now and we have Robbie. Hey, Robbie, what do
you need to know about?

Speaker 13 (32:52):
Hey?

Speaker 14 (32:53):
I was calling about collecting on a judgment from a
former employer.

Speaker 5 (32:59):
Okay, did you get an actual judgment?

Speaker 14 (33:03):
Yes, Yeah, we went filed a claim to the labor Department.

Speaker 15 (33:07):
They did all their.

Speaker 14 (33:08):
Yes stuff, and then they filed the judgment with the
Denver District Court in January.

Speaker 5 (33:15):
And how much is the judgment for?

Speaker 14 (33:18):
Twelve eight and forty eight dollars?

Speaker 5 (33:21):
Is it in an what is what does it stem from?

Speaker 13 (33:25):
What's that? What is it?

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (33:28):
Two questions? Mark, mark yours first? Go ahead? Yeah.

Speaker 7 (33:31):
Is it in the individual's name, the owner's name or
is it in the company name.

Speaker 14 (33:36):
It's got both, it's got the company name and the
end of it the owner.

Speaker 5 (33:40):
Actually, what what does this step?

Speaker 14 (33:45):
What's what does it stem from?

Speaker 5 (33:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (33:48):
How'd you get a judgment non payment of wages or what? Yes?

Speaker 14 (33:52):
Yes, he closed the business and he didn't pay us
the for like a month's worth of payment for page.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
Did anyone did anyone else get judgments?

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yes, there's a I know of.

Speaker 14 (34:05):
Two other two other employees that are in the same
process that I'm in.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
They have judgments and they're going after them.

Speaker 14 (34:14):
Yes, yes, we're trying. Okay, we're just sure what to do.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
The reason I ask is because if you have a
sizeable judgment like you do, and especially multiple ones, you
guys could go in as a joinder. You could go
into one one collection attorney and he could do it
as a group. That's one, and it's better for that
because then they can get a bigger commission at the end,
collecting three sizeable judgments. That's one way to do it. However,

(34:43):
John Fuller as an attorney. I'm just talking to John here.
He knows a lot about the law.

Speaker 5 (34:48):
John.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
I mean, if people don't have money, I mean, now
you you can't. I believe this is one of the
kinds of judgments you can't bankrupt out of because it's wages.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
John, do you does that ring true to you?

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Yeah? I think I think it might be in that category.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
Right, because if somebody owes you wages and taxes, and
there's certain other things fraud you can't bankrupt out of.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
I mean you say, yeah, I mean there are avenues
that this caller can go down to try to collect
and stuff. But I mean, you can't get blood out
of a turnip, and so maybe you're going to be
looking at trying to you know, follow security interest in
Garnish tax return money and stuff like that. I mean,
it's very difficult.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
But here's what I'd like to do, Robbie, hang on,
We're gonna try to get one of our collections attorneys on.
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Three oh three seven one three talk. Now. You see
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(37:15):
it's three oh three Martino. That can be called twenty
four to seven three oh three six two seven, eight
four sixty six. So Robbie called and said I was
working somewhere and didn't get paid.

Speaker 5 (37:24):
Now, Robbie, did this place go out of business?

Speaker 4 (37:27):
Yes, it did, Okay, so they he went out of
business and had owed you money at the time he
went out of business.

Speaker 14 (37:35):
Yes, yeh. He hadn't paid us for like the month
of January and then he closed.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
And okay now, and so you in about two you
and two other employees.

Speaker 14 (37:45):
Two that I know of, yes, okay, Well, and.

Speaker 5 (37:49):
You know and you know that they have judgments as
well as you.

Speaker 14 (37:51):
Right, yes they do.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
And and so the judgments are about twelve grand each.

Speaker 14 (37:59):
Theirs are quite a bit more. I think theirs are
closer to thirty thousand, So.

Speaker 4 (38:04):
You could be looking at almost one hundred grand in judgments.

Speaker 14 (38:07):
Right, possibly, yeah, yeah, probably somewhere about eighty between eighty
and one hundred.

Speaker 5 (38:14):
Okay, Now what kind of business was this, Robbie.

Speaker 14 (38:19):
It was a custom furniture design company.

Speaker 5 (38:25):
And when did it go out of business?

Speaker 14 (38:28):
It went out of business in February twenty twenty four.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
Oh okay, now, yeah, so it is the judgment? How
is the judgment issued? On the line? Does it say
the store and so and so proprietor or how is
it written this judgment?

Speaker 14 (38:48):
Yes, this is two. It has the name of the
company and then below that it has the name of
the owner.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
But does it is it the name of the owner
as the owner or as an individual?

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Do you know?

Speaker 14 (39:00):
I think an individual?

Speaker 4 (39:04):
Well, in any case, I'm Frank Ball. Frank Ball is
a collection attorney extraordinary and he does a lot of
big corporate collections. He knows what he's doing, he's fair,
he's honest. He's also very aggressive and knows what he's doing.
We love talking to him about all things collection and
Frank serves as an expert. Now to be to be Frank,

(39:25):
he doesn't take a lot of to be Frank, that's
no pun Intendo. But he doesn't take a lot of
individual he doesn't take a lot of individual consumer cases.
But he certainly can help us get a direction. So Frank,
first of all, I want to I want to ask
Frank something, Frank that expression, even though some judgments can't
be bankrupted out of you can't take blood from a

(39:47):
turn up, I mean, or blood from a stone.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
So if money.

Speaker 4 (39:51):
Isn't there, they don't put a guy in jail. What
happens if money just isn't there.

Speaker 13 (39:59):
Well, it's not there, can't collect it. It really depends
given her situation. If she has sounds like she has
a judgment against the company. Okay, in terms of the
judgment against the company, if they if it's Joe's custom
furniture design and then a year later they open up

(40:19):
Sally's Custom furniture design and it's the same or similar outfit,
you can sue Sally's and say you really used to
be Joe's and I want money from you. So you
have to go in and you'd have to pierce the
corporate veil. That's that's well, what.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
If what if she says, his name is on the judgment.

Speaker 5 (40:41):
Frank, She says, his name is on the judgment.

Speaker 13 (40:44):
Well, great, minds think alike. That's what I was going
to talk about next. If he is really individually liable,
then you can go after him individually. I mean, as
long as he lives in the state of Colorado. You
can find out where he works, you can garnish his
pay you can and find out his information, you can
levy his bank you can do all sorts of things.

Speaker 5 (41:07):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
So the only way to know if it's if it's
issued to both him personally and the corp. See, it
could just be the name of the corporation, Comma so
and so owner. You see what I'm saying. So I
don't know if it isn't his name individually, you're saying
it is Robbie. Why do you think it is? Did
the judge say that?

Speaker 13 (41:27):
Well, just the.

Speaker 14 (41:28):
Questions that the labor Department was asking, like was he
financially making all the financial decisions?

Speaker 10 (41:34):
Was he paying?

Speaker 14 (41:35):
Like he would sign the paychecks, he would tell.

Speaker 13 (41:39):
Us when we get a paid, let me jump in,
and I would have both people's names. It would have
Joe's custom furniture design and it would have Joe Smith. Yes,
we both then typically it would be both. I would
guess in that scenario.

Speaker 7 (41:58):
Okay, so Frank Frank, what would be what should be
her first stip hold? On real quick though, on just
a total side note, why wouldn't he have argued? Maybe
he never showed up to court or never participated in
any of this labor stuff, But why wouldn't you have
argued the company the corporation went out? Why am I
held personally liable for this? I guess I'm missing that part.

(42:23):
So if you did get the judgment and someone did file,
you know, a Form twenty nine and actually was going
after a bank account or something, he would have that
period of time to actually argue, wouldn't he that that's
the corporation? I don't personally own this.

Speaker 13 (42:38):
I think the answer to that question it depends is
it depends on the basis of the money owed. If
it was way just sometimes they will hold both the
individual and the business liable. If it was something else,
maybe they won't. But maybe in this particular case they
held both responsible.

Speaker 5 (42:55):
Okay, So what is her first step?

Speaker 13 (43:02):
Well, you have to find out where his accets are,
where he is do you know anything about him since
you're waiting.

Speaker 14 (43:11):
I know he I know he was living here in Denver.
I don't know if he still is. I heard he
sold his house, so I don't know. I don't really
know where.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
Well, one of the quickest way to find out is
tell me his name. It's public record. It's you're not
doing anything, Uh slanderous?

Speaker 5 (43:27):
What what is his name?

Speaker 14 (43:29):
His name is James Hickson. Hickson, Hickson, h I X
s O n okay James.

Speaker 5 (43:40):
And then go ahead.

Speaker 14 (43:42):
The company it's called black Towne Design Company.

Speaker 13 (43:49):
Oh, we know who the black colt was?

Speaker 2 (43:51):
What is it?

Speaker 7 (43:51):
Black town?

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Yeah, black like a dog.

Speaker 13 (43:56):
We know who that black cone is?

Speaker 5 (43:59):
Yeah, we do.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
Now it's Hickson. So Hickson. Now, now I want to
ask you something. This is what was Hickson just trying
to make it and he couldn't or do you think
there was something more dastardly going on?

Speaker 1 (44:15):
No?

Speaker 14 (44:16):
I think he probably just things were falling apart and
he couldn't make it. But you know he didn't. He
didn't tell us a lot us keep coming into work,
I think knowing he was going to be closing.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
And so, yeah.

Speaker 14 (44:30):
I know there's some other things like I'm not sure
he was collecting taxes. I don't know if he paid
our taxes. I'm not really sure what was happening.

Speaker 5 (44:40):
What do you mean collecting taxes? What do you mean
collecting taxes?

Speaker 14 (44:44):
He took it out of our p checks, but we
I don't know what if he paid it. We never
got a W two.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
By the way, Robbie, I will tell you this. I
would tell you this. Mark and I handled cases like this,
and we we were responsible for getting a guy sent
to prison for that.

Speaker 5 (45:03):
They don't, they don't not. They do not screw around
with that.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
When those when those funds are taken, it's called in trust.

Speaker 5 (45:10):
They're taken from.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
An employee and and their intrust and should be sent
in their name to the I R S.

Speaker 5 (45:16):
And when they are not that I R S. Mark,
do they come down on them or what?

Speaker 7 (45:22):
Yeah, they come down on him big time, But they're
not going to come down on her from that.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Here's what's curios on her hold on guys.

Speaker 7 (45:31):
This guy filed bankruptcy in five to four of twenty one,
and that's that that black hound. I just don't know
how he's going to be I just don't understand how
he marked judgment Martin Pay, I just don't.

Speaker 4 (45:48):
First of all, First of all, they got the judgment
in twenty four post bankruptcy.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Yeah, I get it. So I want to.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
Ask Frank Ball, Frank, there are certain kinds of debts
you can't bankrupt on. One is fraud. What about employee wages?
Is that something you can bankrupt out of if? I
don't even think he's eligible for bankruptcy. Again, maybe he is,
but can you bankrupt out of it?

Speaker 13 (46:12):
Okay, Well, let me just talk to the first thing
you said, fraud. I actually try a fraud case. It's
very hard to prove fraud in a bankruptcy case because
you have to prove intent, and it's very hard to
prove intent in a bankruptcy case. So and all the
bankruptcy judges they just want to get rid of it,
and so they don't necessarily want to add it to

(46:35):
the burden of the people who are trying to get
out of their depths. So that's the first thing. In
terms of other issues that you can not Well, there's restitution,
and there's child support, there's maintenance. All those things you
can't discharge in a bankruptcy.

Speaker 5 (46:56):
What about employees? But what about wages.

Speaker 13 (47:03):
I don't know the answer to that, because you'd have
to you'd have to do file the bankruptcy in the
in the business name. And given what you just said,
I would be very surprised since they're holding an in
trust that they can file a bankruptcy out from the
wages themselves or the same way, in the same way

(47:28):
it would be for the taxes. That'd be like saying,
you don't have to pay your payroll taxes, We're going
to just bankrupt them out. I don't think the government
would allow you to do that.

Speaker 10 (47:37):
I'm unsure about them.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
No, they send they send you to prison. That is
one thing. Do you know what they actually do. They
actually do not ding the employees. They do not they
go after the employer, which is a good thing because
but now, of course the I r S is down
a few men and women. But you might want to
put in a complaint with the I R S as well.

(47:59):
Or you can actually search your payroll account. Did you
know that you you actually, Robbie can gain access to
your work history and your withholdings online.

Speaker 5 (48:10):
So you ought to do that and.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
See if there were taxes held for you.

Speaker 5 (48:15):
You never got a w two how did you file taxes.

Speaker 14 (48:19):
I had to calculate it all myself and kind of
estimate what I think he took out, and then I
filled out the form that the IRS as you fill
out when you don't get a W two, Because like,
if my check was one thousand and he paid me,
you know, eight hundred, I knew he kept two hundred.
So I estimated what went to state what went to

(48:40):
federal based on.

Speaker 4 (48:42):
You never got a a you never got a wage statement,
you just got a check.

Speaker 14 (48:49):
Yeah, he hand wrote us checks a lot of times.
They bounced. We never got paced us. We didn't. We
didn't get W two for half a year. Yeah, it
was a mess.

Speaker 5 (49:01):
Frank.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
If they came to you with these sizeable judgments, is
this something you take a look at for collection or not.

Speaker 13 (49:10):
If a dentist came to me with one hundred cases
that were five thousand dollars each, I'd take it. But
in terms of individual case, I don't have an ability
to do that. But there's lots of others in town
that would take that because of the high dollar amount.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
I'm more okay, no, I know that, Frank, Yeah, I know.

Speaker 7 (49:32):
Really why guy is so I don't think anybody's going
to touch it unless if you know, you know at
least where the guy's at and possibly some assets.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Right now, they're just working.

Speaker 7 (49:44):
To find a ghost.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
Just find out where he is, and then you could
start with some interrogatories and some asset finding tools, and
there are tricks you can do to get him to
get his ass in trouble if he doesn't answer him.
So one thing at a time, Robbie, We're gonna mark
this pending, but we can't go hunting for you, So why.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Don't you do this?

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James Hickson?

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James anybody knows James pick goingle.

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Okay, James Hickson.

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Speaker 10 (51:37):
Here comes.

Speaker 4 (51:41):
Hi, Tom Martine here at three oh three seven one
three talk seven one three eight two five five problems, questions, complaints, Well, okay,
let's move on, and we have a text about solar here.
What's better? They want to know they're in the country.
Is it better to have a generator or battery backup?

(52:03):
You know, is it either or or or? How do
you handle those? Brooke and Brook is with is with
red rocks, roof and solar?

Speaker 9 (52:12):
Go ahead, Broke, Yeah, So there's benefits to batteries and
generators or even doing a combination of the two. It's
really about what they're looking to have backup, backed up.
The biggest benefit.

Speaker 10 (52:22):
Of a battery over a generator is just the tax
credits that you get back.

Speaker 9 (52:26):
So right now, the state of Colorado does a ten
percent plus the federal government of thirty. So if the
generator the battery costs the same amount, let's say ten grand,
to make it easy, the battery actually only costs you
six instead of the full ten.

Speaker 10 (52:39):
So that's the biggest benefit.

Speaker 4 (52:41):
Okay, So sure you won't get why don't they give
a credit on a generator.

Speaker 10 (52:45):
They'll do a.

Speaker 9 (52:45):
Credit on a generator if you do it as part
of a solar project.

Speaker 10 (52:49):
That's your caveat.

Speaker 5 (52:51):
Okay, is it?

Speaker 4 (52:53):
And so you get a normal tax credit to the
total right.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Yep?

Speaker 9 (52:58):
Yeah, So if like if you added the generator to
a solar project, you would still get the thirty percent.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
Right right of the total project exactly. Okay, So if
you had your own place and it wasn't a matter
of tax credits or cost, what do you like better?

Speaker 5 (53:16):
Generator or battery?

Speaker 9 (53:18):
Well, I like a battery more because you're not having
to pay for your fuel source.

Speaker 10 (53:25):
You're always gonna have to pay for your fuel source.
But the generator.

Speaker 4 (53:29):
Okay, but are either? But couldn't a generator last longer?

Speaker 9 (53:33):
Technically it just kind of depends on again, what you're
looking for and what you're backing up, because if the
sun rises every day, then your battery backup can continue
to run and definitely so in that instance, the battery
would outpower the generator depending.

Speaker 5 (53:57):
Okay, all right?

Speaker 4 (53:58):
Three h three seven one three top three oh three
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John Fuller. John, how important is it to take photos
with your uh or take pics with your phone? Your smartphone?
If you have any questions? I mean that they did
not do it, and they could have done it, would

(54:20):
it doesn't make a big difference.

Speaker 5 (54:22):
How does it help? What do you suggest?

Speaker 4 (54:23):
I suggest they take a list of picture of the car,
the damage and the license plates.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
Right, so Tom, the you know these are the type
of questions that are that can only be answered by saying, well,
how honest is the person that ran into you? Are
they going to call their insurance company and say it
was one hundred percent my fault, I screwed up. Whatever
is wrong with this person. I want you to pay
for it because I did a bad thing and I'm

(54:50):
completely negligent in the operation of my vehicle. If you
get hit by that guy, you don't need to bother
taking pictures. But if you're not that guy, or if
you're not not sure that it's that guy, then the
photographs are going to be the only thing that really
can substantiate what happened and where the cars were, and
what the intersection looked like, and what the condition of

(55:11):
the roadway was, and who the other driver was, because
all of those things have become an issue in my cases,
even the identity of the driver. When a person says,
you know, to their insurance company, I was not driving
that day, and we know darn well that they were,
it would really be lovely to say, well, you know what,
we happen to have a photograph of the driver in boom.
That issue is completely resolved at that moment and we

(55:34):
move on. With with bigger you know better things.

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a solar Brooks, somebody said that they like having both
batteries and a small generator.

Speaker 5 (57:40):
What do you think about that?

Speaker 9 (57:41):
Yeah, I love a battery generator combination. I actually promote those,
and yes's usually what I work with folks that are
really looking for extended grid offline needs. Absolutely, Franklin is
the best battery for a battery generator combination.

Speaker 5 (58:01):
Why is that?

Speaker 10 (58:02):
Because they are set.

Speaker 9 (58:03):
Up automatically to have a battery connect directly into the generator.

Speaker 10 (58:08):
Instead of having to go through a subpanel to connect it.

Speaker 9 (58:11):
Plus they also have an ability for you to go
into the battery itself and see which loads are using
how much power, and to reduce it. So it's a really,
really great battery.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
Someone is considering relocating, they're selling their house.

Speaker 5 (58:29):
They want to know.

Speaker 4 (58:31):
Is it better to take the system with them it's
a five year old system or just buy a new one.

Speaker 9 (58:38):
No, definitely buy a new one because the equity that
you can gain with the system for the sale is
part one why and then part two why is because
you still get your tax credits and benefits if you
add sold to the second one if you just move.

Speaker 4 (58:52):
Wait, so if you buy, if you buy a new system,
let's say every other year, you can get a tax
credit every other year for it every time time you
buy one.

Speaker 5 (59:01):
Or is there a limit.

Speaker 9 (59:02):
You could install one hundred solar systems in the same
year and get all the tax credits.

Speaker 10 (59:09):
There's no limit to it as long as it's like show.

Speaker 4 (59:11):
So if you move one though, but when they move one,
they don't get a tax credit. So you're right, you
sell it with the house and then you get a
new one and new new tax credit yep, plus you
have the latest equipment.

Speaker 9 (59:25):
Yeah, and then there's websites or certifications to go through
to add the equity for the solar system to verify it.

Speaker 10 (59:32):
So make sure that they do.

Speaker 9 (59:33):
That with their real charts to make sure that they're
getting the equity value for the system that they're selling.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
John Fuller, this is an odd one somebody I even
hate saying because I love horses. Somebody hit a horse,
they were injured in their car. They want to know
if the horse owner has responsible Does the horse owner
have responsibility to them? Can they sue the horse owner
because the horse got out?

Speaker 2 (59:58):
Or were you driving around in the horse pasture or
did the horse get out?

Speaker 5 (01:00:03):
No, the horse got out. Apparently they said it was
on the road.

Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
They if they came around a curve they hit the horse,
They went into a ditch and rolled, they got hurt.

Speaker 5 (01:00:12):
You know, is this the.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Generally speaking Tom? In Colorado it's a fence out state,
which means you're not going to be able to maintain
a claim against the horse owner. However, if the horse owner,
you know, was responsible for the condition that let the
horse out, you know, there can be some negligence there.

(01:00:36):
I've seen successful actions, but they really require some egregious
conduct on the part of the owner that caused that
horse to be out in the in the roadway. So
so whereas Colorado would you know generally say no, there's
not a claim. If you let your horse out on
the roadway because the grass looked nice and green and
it seemed like a neat place to feed your horse

(01:00:58):
for free, then you know, under that circumstance you probably
could be held liable.

Speaker 5 (01:01:05):
So I remember speaking of that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:07):
And by the way, John Fuller, personal injury attorney, our
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(01:01:27):
So it's five nine seven forty five hundred. Now speaking
of this, somebody this happened to me.

Speaker 5 (01:01:33):
So my pool cover.

Speaker 4 (01:01:34):
I was out in Franktown area back in the day
and we had a pool and a cow got into
the pool cover and destroyed it and we helped the
cow out. But now we have a destroyed pool cover
and I want to so I want I was pissed, right,
and they actually told me. The owner said, well, we're

(01:01:56):
really sorry about that. And he said, what do you
mean you're sorry? You know you owe me a cover.
He said, no, you should have had a fence up.
And I said, what do you mean I should have
a fence up? I mean, you know I had like
a normal fence like this. This these ugly not ugly,
but these white ones everybody what do they call them.

Speaker 5 (01:02:12):
The the PVC. He's just slats.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
They won't keep anything out of anywhere, but they're just
pretty right. So he says, this is the first time
I heard this. He says, it's a fence out. Say,
if you want to keep a livestock out, you got
to fence him out. I don't have to put a
fence up to keep him in. And that was true,
right John, that's correct.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
I mean it really is. It's crazy, but it's true.
So when we.

Speaker 8 (01:02:37):
Had a pool, Tom, we had to put up a
six foot iron fence with a gate that.

Speaker 7 (01:02:43):
Could be locked.

Speaker 4 (01:02:45):
Yeah, but you don't have to do that in a
country where I was on a forty acre lot.

Speaker 5 (01:02:48):
They don't make you do that. I mean, but I understand.

Speaker 4 (01:02:51):
Maybe they do now, Maybe they do now.

Speaker 7 (01:02:55):
But speaking of that, John, though, I thought there were
and laws in Colorado that protected equine and equine owners
from that. In other words, even if a horse got
out that you couldn't go after the owner.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Is that not correct? Or is that you?

Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
You know, what you're talking about equine liability. And what
you're talking about is when when you have equine activities, mark,
you can't hold people responsible for being injured.

Speaker 5 (01:03:22):
Now that doesn't mean that means.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
It doesn't when you can't mean help me out here
means trail ride or anything and stuff like that. Dude, ranch, Yeah,
dude ranch. And it really only covers simple neglige and
so it doesn't cover gross right there is there is
it's right there.

Speaker 4 (01:03:39):
Yeah, And and equine activities too, it's it's not a
non equine activity. If your horse gets out into a
picnic and kicks the hell out of somebody, that's not
considered an equine activity.

Speaker 5 (01:03:52):
And and you know, but.

Speaker 7 (01:03:54):
Well if it was a rodeo and the horse got
up into the stands and really hurt some people, right.

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
That's right, that would be they would be a hard
time collecting on anything equine activity related. That's horse shows, rodeos,
that's even pony rides, dude ranches, and it includes even when.

Speaker 5 (01:04:12):
Horses are there for decoration.

Speaker 4 (01:04:14):
If you had an old Western town and a horse
went on a rampage, I mean, it really is anything
to do with equine. And the reason is is that
at one time this state's economy, a lot of it
was based on you know, the wild West and and horses,
and they couldn't afford to have people being sued over
their horse stuff, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:04:34):
And that's in the operation of a horse too.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
So if you're using a pack horse, or you're moving
cattle and your car gets hurt or something, you know,
that's an equine activity, even though you're not participating in it.
There's a lot of immunity for or there used to be.
I don't know how it is now. John would have
to tell you, John.

Speaker 8 (01:04:54):
But there is there defined a difference between simple and
growth segloge or is it subjective?

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
No, it's not very subjective at all. You know, simple
negligence is just good old negligence. Newer should have known
made a mistake, you know, failure to act in a
way that a reasonably prudent person would have acted. That's
simple negligence. Gross negligence generally crosses over the line into
intentionality and reckless conduct, and conduct that's almost certain to

(01:05:27):
you know, to result in a certain outcome. That's that's bad.
So in the case of you know, equine cases or stuff,
you know, we we would get into the knowledge of
the proclivity of a certain horse if you had one
that always, you know, think about a trail riding operation.
If you had a horse that every single time you
took the stupid horse out it was barn sour and

(01:05:50):
it would run fifty miles an hour back to the
back to the barn when they would turn around. You
wouldn't put a brand new, you know, first time horseback
rider on that horse. That would that would conote a
degree of intentionality and stuff that that would probably give
rise to liability. You know, it's it's culpable knowledge. So now.

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(01:07:45):
Let's go to James on the phone. James, go ahead,
what's going on?

Speaker 10 (01:07:48):
James?

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:07:50):
How you doing?

Speaker 17 (01:07:50):
Tom?

Speaker 5 (01:07:52):
What's happening man? Yes?

Speaker 17 (01:07:54):
I was going to get your opinion on a company
called Furnished find set out with the Marketplace. I was
wanting to see if you had anybody call in about
their reviews, basically their operating.

Speaker 4 (01:08:11):
Now are you talking about did they find they find
what furnished apartments and stuff?

Speaker 5 (01:08:17):
Or what are we talking about? Furnished rentals?

Speaker 17 (01:08:21):
They really play like traveling nurses and professionals.

Speaker 7 (01:08:25):
Yes, yes, from Nathan Why yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:08:29):
It's used a lot for people who travel and are
only staying in a place a short time, and they
don't move in and out of an apartment. And it's
called furnished Finders. Now there's more than one. Now, Furnished
Finder is a brand name, but there are other companies
that do it. So are you asking me are they reputable?

(01:08:51):
The answer is in general.

Speaker 18 (01:08:52):
Yes, okay, oh, yes, and okay, And now.

Speaker 5 (01:08:57):
As always no, no, we've never had a complaint.

Speaker 4 (01:09:01):
But as always I want to tell you something about
this with any kind of a rental service, you must
be sure that they have the authority to rent and
they're not just inserting themselves in a transaction, and that
they have authority to collect money, and that that money
is going to the right place. I mean, this is
very complicated, but you have to do some due diligence

(01:09:23):
because there are a plethora of people who are collecting
deposits on apartments. They don't even have the authority to rent,
and they just find a listing and they insert themselves
in it. So make sure you're dealing directly with the
people that you want to like let's say country club,

(01:09:43):
tower and gardens. They rent out furnished places. When you're
dealing directly with them, there's no problem now, But furnished
rentals that you're calling about furnished Finder, that you have
to make sure that you're really dealing with furnished Finder,
not someone who says they're with furnished Finder, and that

(01:10:04):
they really do have authority to rent. That's and and
right now it's too difficult to tell you how to
do due diligence, but it's easy enough to get phone
numbers and contact and emails and URLs and verify that
you're dealing with the real people. I mean, that's very
That's the biggest danger in using a third party for
rentals is that you're paying someone or you're signing something

(01:10:28):
with someone who has no authority.

Speaker 5 (01:10:30):
Now, Mark will.

Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
Tell you we've had several cases like that over the
years where an entire family moved into a furnished home,
paid ten grand with security deposit first month's rent. Remember Mark,
that one family and she comes to find out the
owners didn't even though they rented out their house. Yep, okay,
I mean it's a sad commentary of the home.

Speaker 17 (01:10:50):
Yes, I'm the owner of that, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
D yeah, okay, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:10:55):
If you're going to be renting it out to traveling
nurses and all that, that is a good place to start.
They're good people, they're not bad, no complaints ever. I'm
Tom Martino. We have another two hours ago on the
Troubleshooter Show three O three seven one three talk seven
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with us.

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Make your life a little bit better. Maybe you've been
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Maybe you need help collecting a judgment. Maybe you need
help going after someone that ran into you in their car.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
Well, luckily, John Fuller's with me today.

Speaker 7 (01:12:42):
John, glad you could join us today and by the way,
we also have another gas Brooke White Red Rocks RS.
I say this about you all the time, Brooke. The
amount of money you can find for people building commercial
solar systems is remarkable. We've had callers where you have
literally recoupo one hundred and twenty percent of the cost

(01:13:02):
of the solar system. That is absolutely amazing. I mean,
you're basically talking a free system through grant money and
through tax credits. But any questions you have on solar,
any questions you have, period, we have three lines open
right now. I'll always tell you when a line's open.
We'd love to hear from you. By the way, a
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(01:13:26):
have a ceasefire deal not in place yet, but everybody's
somewhat agreeing to the structure of it right now with
Ukraine and Russia. That would be really cool. And some
of the details, in fact, a lot of them have
been discussed. I guess Ukraine giving up X amount of territory.
But think about that, Boy, wouldn't that be great. They

(01:13:49):
paint that war over there is like Vietnam, Like you know,
as soon as these troops get out, there's no hills nothing. Basically,
it's just a bloodbath. Hopefully all these young men on
both side quit dying. That would be awesome if that
actually goes through. But three oh three seven, one, three, eight,
two five five. Let's jump over to Kim real quick.

(01:14:10):
Hey Kim, what's going on with you? It says you
got some kind of issue.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
Kimberly, how are you?

Speaker 10 (01:14:20):
This is a gentleman mom.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
Oh hey Kim, what's going on? How can we help you? Kim?

Speaker 7 (01:14:30):
I can tell you Mark well, I mean, if he's
not there, why are we talking to him?

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
Is he there?

Speaker 10 (01:14:34):
I'm not sure I've been. I meant to follow up
with him, but it's been a crazy week.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
Okay.

Speaker 10 (01:14:39):
Basically, he was married thirty five forty years. He and
his wife get divorced.

Speaker 15 (01:14:44):
He's living in the barn, if you will, the apartment.

Speaker 10 (01:14:48):
Barn, literally living in the house.

Speaker 15 (01:14:51):
They come up with an agreement to divorce, she sells
the house.

Speaker 10 (01:14:55):
He was supposed to get half. He never did. But
I think this all happened a long time ago.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
Happened Kim? This is uh?

Speaker 18 (01:15:03):
I mean the house just sold less than a year ago.
But it's been in the whole divorce thing has been
a couple of.

Speaker 7 (01:15:09):
Years now, so two years ago you get the force.
So the judgment or the decree said, what explain it?

Speaker 18 (01:15:18):
He said that we could live in separate quarters, which
she would live in the house and I live in
the in in my shop. So we started to do that.
Of course that didn't work right, long story stort. She
ended up selling the house underneath my feet. It kept

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getting kicked off the property by police and I just so.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
She sold the house. You weren't there. She sold the house.
How much of the house?

Speaker 7 (01:15:47):
Back to the decree real quick though, how much were
you supposed to get from the sale of the house.

Speaker 18 (01:15:53):
Let's get the heavange.

Speaker 7 (01:15:56):
Okay, So when she when she sold it, did she
give you fifty percent?

Speaker 18 (01:16:01):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 7 (01:16:02):
Have you gone back to court and told the judge
they won't talk to me.

Speaker 18 (01:16:08):
The judge won't talk to you, you know, they won't.
They won't have to me any questions, and they keep
telling me to fill out emotion.

Speaker 7 (01:16:17):
Well that's what you have to do, of course, John, explain,
just explain in layman's terms what that means. You can't
just knock on the court door and go up and
talk to the judge. Under most cases, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
I mean, you guys have a case that's that's you know,
at least been ongoing, and you just can't walk in
and throw a new issue on the judge. There are
procedures that have to be followed, and one of them
is that you're gonna file emotion and put forth what
you know your issue is, and then if the court
wants to set a hearing, then they'll drag your wife
in there to attend and answer to the court, and

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she'll have an opportunity to put her side of the
story down as well. So I'm guessing you guys did
not have attorneys involved on this.

Speaker 18 (01:16:58):
Well, she did because I didn't have any money.

Speaker 7 (01:17:02):
Yeah, oh, you did everything wrong. I mean, the marital
assets should have got you in an attorney. But it's
too late. It's too late for that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
Where is this? Where is this ex wife for yours?

Speaker 18 (01:17:14):
I don't know. I think she's in Florida.

Speaker 7 (01:17:17):
Well, that complicates the hell out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
What state did all this go down in?

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
Here?

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
In Colorado?

Speaker 7 (01:17:23):
Yes, and she asconded with all the money.

Speaker 18 (01:17:28):
I don't know what she did with the money, but
she's not still here. I looked into it. I looked
into it. By myself a little bit. And I found
out that the people that bought the home paid cash
for it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
Cash, But that doesn't really matter. It doesn't matter how
they paid for the cash. I mean how they paid
for the home. They could have taken out a loan,
could have paid cash, could have brought a wheelbarrow of quarters.
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 7 (01:17:52):
Does it work though? If he did file the motion
John and I mean we're talking divorce court, I mean
family law. But what I'm saying in general, you know,
a decrease basically a judgment, and if it literally says
he gets half of the house and she sold it
and she takes off and he gets nothing at this point,
regardless if it's a judgment for something else or this,

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how if she if he doesn't know where the hell
she is, I mean, how does he possibly even get
her to come back here? Or does he have to
go find her in Florida?

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
He might he might have to. It depends on whether
and this is something I just don't know because I
don't practice this kind of law, but I suspect that
the court maintained some jurisdiction over the adjudication of that decree.
So you know, she has violated the decree in taking
all the money if it says what he says it says,
and so basically you're seeking to haul her back into

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court to answer for her violation or contempt of that decree.

Speaker 7 (01:18:50):
I get that, But not knowing where she's at is
problem number one.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
That is problem number one. If she still has an
attorney on the case, that attorney, you know, might be
able to service and compel her attendance because he is
the attorney of record. Now he's withdrawn from the case,
which is why a lot of attorneys withdraw at the
end of a case so they can't be held to
him responsible forget the person back in. But I mean,

(01:19:15):
there are interesting there are people that can locate people.
I mean, even Florida, it's still not you know, it's
it's a real place. You can find people. They have
bank accounts and jobs and properties and all that stuff
down there as well. So go ahead, Mark, I know
that Kim.

Speaker 10 (01:19:32):
I talked to Kim at the house a.

Speaker 7 (01:19:33):
Few tres we ever have him talked to Bonnie.

Speaker 10 (01:19:35):
That's what I was going to tell you.

Speaker 15 (01:19:36):
So Kim was on with I think Tom a few
weeks ago. Kim, I think is on an Obama phone,
if you will, and so by the time Bonnie came
on with her advice, he had lost connection. I do
have a response from Bonnie in writing about his case.

Speaker 7 (01:19:53):
If you want me to read it, well, I don't
want you to read it verbatim. But let's get to
the points of it. Let's take the break. We'll come
back and see with the attorney had to say, You're
gonna have to hang tight, Kim. We got two lines
open three oh three seven one three eight two five five.
My god, you couldn't have done anything worse. You couldn't
have done anything Wronger, Yeah, I'll say it Wronger, it's horrible.

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Speaker 7 (01:20:51):
All right three oh three seven one three eight two
five five two lines open. You can ripped off. Take
an advantage of We want to hear from you. Kim
called in and apparently he had a divorce. His ex
wife basically scammed them out of the money when she.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
Sold the house she moved to Florida.

Speaker 7 (01:21:09):
He never got his half of the money and apparently
according to the divorce decree he was supposed to get half.
He has no idea where she lives. We got Bonnie
Shields involved in Bonnie. Suzanne gave us some information and
emailed go ahead and read it. Let's see with Bonnie.

Speaker 10 (01:21:25):
So, Kim, this this is Anne.

Speaker 15 (01:21:26):
You and I talked on the phone a few days ago,
and I meant to get back to you. This is
what Bonnie said about your call. She remembered your call.
If there was an order for her to give him
money and she didn't, he can file emotion for contempt.
He asked to be able to find her through and
in another state is tricky.

Speaker 10 (01:21:43):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 15 (01:21:43):
Able to find her though and in another state is tricky.
If she is still in Colorado, it's a lot easier.
He could also get a judgment for the amount and
maybe lean property if she has bought any. It's not
really easy questions. I think I came in late to
the talk, and I really would have a lot of
questions before I'd feel good about my answers.

Speaker 10 (01:22:03):
Please tell him he can call me if he wants.

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
You should call her.

Speaker 7 (01:22:06):
She'll talk to you off air, Kim.

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
But the one question I have is how long ago
was this.

Speaker 18 (01:22:14):
That I got divorced? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
When was the decree? Like literally.

Speaker 18 (01:22:19):
I sent and I sent in an emotion, but apparently
I got denied because I did something wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
When was the final When was the final divorce decree
issued by the court? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:22:29):
How long ago? Pre COVID, during COVID, after COVID, Let's
start there.

Speaker 18 (01:22:35):
It was that motion for this is motion for financial distance.

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
Okay?

Speaker 10 (01:22:41):
Did she sell the house?

Speaker 18 (01:22:43):
That was July twenty twenty four?

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
Okay? So, and and how long had you guys been
divorced before she sold the house? Six months.

Speaker 18 (01:22:53):
At least? Yes? Well, yea almost a year.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
But almost a year okay, okay, so late twenty three ish.

Speaker 7 (01:23:03):
So basically you need to hire an attorney, Kim. I
mean you can call up and talk to Bonnie.

Speaker 18 (01:23:09):
Tom, Tom, I don't have the money.

Speaker 7 (01:23:12):
I understand, Kim, listen, maybe after you talk to Bonnie. Maybe,
And I trust me, I'm not promising you anything because
you know, most family law attorneys don't operate this way.
At the beginning, she might have. In other words, she
would have never have let this happen if you had
an attorney. Quite frankly, you let this woman basically kick.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
You in the face.

Speaker 7 (01:23:34):
So I'll put it like that. You let your ex
wife kick you in the face. She kicked you out
of your house. You slept in the barn, then she
sold the house, and a year later you're calling us.
And the only reason I'm yelling at you is I'm
frustrated with you. How come you didn't do anything for
yourself all this time?

Speaker 18 (01:23:52):
I couldn't. I had no money to get an attorney.
I just had a stroke. Tom.

Speaker 7 (01:23:56):
Okay, well there's something I can appreciate at least, right.

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
I want you to call.

Speaker 7 (01:24:01):
Up and talk to Bonnie, okay, and then follow up
with us. Follow up with us. The biggest problem is
gonna be number one. And Bonnie said that in the email.
She said it's gonna be tough to find her. Now,
if she went out with that money and bought some
property somewhere, that's gonna make it a little easier. But

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if she's running a place somewhere, especially using her maiden
name or something different, now, I mean, this could be
a nightmare for you with no assets trying to find her.

Speaker 10 (01:24:32):
Or she might have spent it already it's been a
year mark, or she could.

Speaker 7 (01:24:36):
Have spent it, or I mean gave it to her kids.
I mean, my god, we have no idea what happened here.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
We just have no idea.

Speaker 7 (01:24:43):
So we're gonna give you Bonnie's number, Okay, Kelly's gonna
give it to you off air hold tight.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
I hate getting mad. I feel bad. The guy had
a stroke too, But that woman just.

Speaker 7 (01:24:51):
God, I mean, she just totally took advantage of them,
get an attorney, walking into a divorce with one having
an attorney and the other having nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
Yeah, it's insanity. It's a recipe for disaster.

Speaker 10 (01:25:07):
I'm surprised that's even legal.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
It's legal. And and I guarantee you that he you know,
when they went to their final hearing and stuff to
judge and you know, inquired about whether he understood and
agreed to everything, and he was like, yep, yep, yep,
And you know so, I mean now he's saying no,
but then no, not only that.

Speaker 7 (01:25:29):
To it there there's no doubt. There is no doubt
he could have paid for the attorney with the marriage
lassets such as the house.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
Yeah, of course he could have.

Speaker 7 (01:25:38):
So the fact he didn't have one. And I said it,
you know, not really jokingly.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
I bet she was. Remember he was out in the
barn dominium.

Speaker 7 (01:25:45):
She's in the house. I bet she's like, Hey, if
you don't get an attorney, I'll come busy on Saturday
nights or something. Somehow she got him not to get
an attorney. She truly took advantage of them. And it's
in it's crap, Kurt, what's going on with you?

Speaker 18 (01:26:03):
Hello?

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
Aker?

Speaker 7 (01:26:04):
What's going on?

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
So?

Speaker 6 (01:26:07):
I am a project manager for City of Denver and
we are building a new recreation center in the Westwood
Westwood area southeast southwest Denver, and we have a problem
with Comcast and Loomen and I'm hoping you can help
out with We had about half a dozen old power
poles on the site that we're demoing, and Excel came

(01:26:28):
right out and removed the poles, no problem. But there's
one pole that has all the Internet lines from Loomen
and Comcast, and we cannot get hold of anyone that
will come out and remove them. That we have tried
and tried, me and the general contractor, and we're trying
to do them a favor. We don't want to just
demo the poll and lose internet for all the neighbors

(01:26:52):
in the area. We're trying to be good citizens.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
So it's kind of odd.

Speaker 7 (01:26:56):
Well, I guess it's not really odd that you have
basically Century Lank who's now Luhmen, and then Exfinity on
the same or Comcast on the same Susanne. I would
like to know whose poll it is, because it's going
to come down to that, I wonder. And it's definitely
on an easement right along with everything else.

Speaker 6 (01:27:15):
It's it's it's it's actually in the city. It's a
kind of a combination of properties that we're put together
to get the site that it's a it's an Excel
pole that Excel removed the high voltage lines on and
but the remaining lines are the Internet, so they are Do.

Speaker 7 (01:27:31):
You think those remaining lines are actually feeding homes or
businesses though.

Speaker 6 (01:27:36):
Oh yeah, definitely, they're feeding homes in the general area.

Speaker 7 (01:27:39):
Yes, jeez, that is a crazy one. How long you've
been trying to do it. We do have an angel
at Century Lenk right or Lumen.

Speaker 11 (01:27:46):
Definitely, Luman.

Speaker 15 (01:27:47):
I'm not sure about Comcasts, but luhman, I have a
contact for Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:27:51):
I didn't even realize funny enough to Comcast had stuff
in the sky. Keep going, I'm sorry, man.

Speaker 6 (01:27:56):
Yeah, no, it's hard. It's hard to get hold of
anybody that I've at least been on the phone for
five or six hours with their customer service. And we
do have one name of the field person that we
got a cell phone number of and email, but they
just goes to us and same thing, Looman. We had
someone who seemed very responsive, sound like he was going

(01:28:17):
to come out and do the work that anticipated.

Speaker 7 (01:28:20):
Yeah, so listen, we actually have Suzanne. This would be
perfect for our Comcast guy too. This is something he
could truly get involved in because he's a field guy.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
You know, I'm talking about Snow.

Speaker 7 (01:28:32):
Yeah, so email Snow and also email Loomen our angel
over there. But hold on a second, man, we got
to at least get your contact information. The address or
you know, whatever the plot or whatever it is where
you're dealing with Kelly, make sure we get all the
information there. Yeah, that's crazy. You sure don't want to

(01:28:52):
just take it down. And all these businesses have no Internet.
In fact, there could actually be some liability there if
they did do that. I couldn't there. I mean I
realized he works for Denver and you have governmental immunity.
But John, just as a thought, I mean, if you
were trying to demo an area and there was something
like this, I mean, how long do you got to
play ball? I mean it's kind of crazy, right, I

(01:29:14):
mean to think of it in those terms. You might
have to play ball till someone does something. Yeah, it's tricky.

Speaker 2 (01:29:20):
Yeah, you kind of wonder you know where that line is?
You know, when is enough due diligence to make somebody
remove that?

Speaker 5 (01:29:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:29:29):
One is enough time? Enough time?

Speaker 4 (01:29:31):
Right?

Speaker 7 (01:29:31):
I mean where where's the end of the row?

Speaker 19 (01:29:33):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
Three oh three seven one three A two five five.
Got to take a break.

Speaker 7 (01:29:36):
We want to hear from you A couple lines open
three zero three Martino.

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Speaker 7 (01:30:39):
All right, three oh three seven one three eight two
five five. You know they finally charged that runner in Virginia,
the high school runner charged with assault after the baton strike.
It was one of those relay races and they add
the baton and this woman just clocks the other one
in the head. It happened about a week ago, but
finally they pressed charges. She's like, it's an accident. Anybody

(01:31:03):
that watched it, there is no way that was an accident.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
She's up there saying I lost my balance. She knocked
her on back. Oh man, the whole thing is like
taking a bat and hitting somebody. Brady winding up for
a throw. You know, well, you.

Speaker 7 (01:31:16):
Got to be so mad in the middle of a
relay race where you actually start swinging at the other people.
There had to be something going on besides the race,
maybe like a boyfriend was involved or something. I mean,
you just don't start whacking people in a race with you.
I've never seen anything like it.

Speaker 10 (01:31:35):
Well, it looks like they were from the same school.
The jerseys were the same.

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
God.

Speaker 7 (01:31:39):
Yeah, okay, you know what, then that even proves my point.
More something was going on. I bet it boy was
involved from different schools.

Speaker 10 (01:31:47):
Mark, I can't relate to this. But she's she claims
it was just an accident.

Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
Yeah, she's up against salt charges.

Speaker 18 (01:31:54):
Yeah she is.

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
Yeah, she can say that all she wants. But unfortunately
it's on video and you can all see that there
was nothing. Actually she didn't. She didn't lose her balance
one little bit. I mean it was clearly she reared
back and whacked the girl.

Speaker 7 (01:32:10):
You know, God, there had to be so much more
to it. I bet you there was some kind of
a boyfriend involved, or a girlfriend or whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (01:32:19):
I mean she was close, like really close to her.
They were all bunched up or something, and it just
brushed her. But I mean she tried to drop her. Yeah,
she's taking a swing and she did drop her. She
did veered off and collapsed over there and says she
had a concussion.

Speaker 9 (01:32:35):
So beeing somebody that ran track in college, Oh you did.
I've never ever seen somebody get hit with a baton.
Sometimes you get spiked.

Speaker 10 (01:32:46):
Stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
Sometimes you hit somebody maybe like you know, like on
a farm.

Speaker 1 (01:32:54):
Though.

Speaker 2 (01:32:55):
Did you grow up in Iowa?

Speaker 7 (01:32:56):
Well yes, yeah, I was like, this is like New
York City stuff.

Speaker 15 (01:33:01):
Okay, you wouldn't understand this stuff that's normally New York racing.

Speaker 2 (01:33:05):
In Denver that happens every day.

Speaker 7 (01:33:08):
We did that all the time back in the city.

Speaker 18 (01:33:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:33:10):
When I ran track and field, I remember.

Speaker 7 (01:33:12):
Getting mugged a few times coming around in Jersey.

Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
I remember my daughter played volleyball growing up in high
school and stuff. And one of their first trips they
took into a inner city Denver, Oh yeah, you know,
volleyball program and and it was something they had never
experienced before in their lives. I mean, these girls were

(01:33:35):
calling them names, and brandisically threatening them and stuff, and
it was crazy, crazy and all these little girls are like,
what the hell is going on here? You know? It
was bad.

Speaker 7 (01:33:47):
How did they end up doing?

Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
Did they win got smoked. They got smoked. So it worked.
If my daughter's going to kill me for this one,
but I'm going to tell it.

Speaker 7 (01:33:54):
So you know Adeline very well. She's done some work
for you. And he's up in law school in fact,
her last year right now, she'll be taking the bar
this year. But when she was probably seventeen, she was
in taekwondo. She had a third degree, right, And when
you're sparring in Douglas County inside your own school and
other schools around, she was pretty good. So I mean

(01:34:17):
she decided that she wanted to start sparring, meaning.

Speaker 2 (01:34:21):
Like real competition, right.

Speaker 7 (01:34:23):
So we're like, okay, whatever, So we go out, we
buy whatever equipment. Don't get me going on that part.
So we go to the first one. We drive down.
It's somewhere like in Colfax in Denver. We're in Hoodlum territory, man,
and I am not kidding, and it is packed. It's
like the scene in the original Karate Kid. There's like
a million people there. There's like different rings going on everything.

(01:34:47):
Her first sparring was with this person at a pueblo.
And when I say mean name calling, just like like
Addie had never witnessed coming from Franktown and Castle Rock area,
had never witnessed anything like this before ever. Hell Susanna

(01:35:10):
and I were terrified for her life.

Speaker 2 (01:35:11):
Yeah, I mean this girl was mean, I mean really mean.
They got in there. She beat the living she got
but handed to her dog, brought her boyfriend along.

Speaker 7 (01:35:25):
The boyfriend was there to witness the beating, and uh,
let me tell you, that was the last time she
sparred outside of Douglas County.

Speaker 2 (01:35:37):
So I feel for your dog. Exactly the same kind
of outcome. It was. It was brutal. These kids were shocked.
They were like, what in the heck have we been
dropped into here?

Speaker 8 (01:35:48):
And that was before transgender people were allowed to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
They didn't even it didn't really matter. I mean, these
girls were they were bigger, they were tougher, tougher, they
were aggressive, they were mean, they were calling him names.
It was it was bad.

Speaker 7 (01:36:05):
Hey man, I'll tell you we had Troy back in
my middle school, eighth grade. I'll tell you there wasn't
anybody in the world that would fight Troy. He was
just the meanest SLB. It just didn't matter. You would
be insane to fight Troy. Troy wanted to fight this
one kid after school, and the kid tried to run away,
and he was so terrified he pulled a knife out

(01:36:26):
on Troy, and Troy ended up stabbing the kid.

Speaker 2 (01:36:29):
And he's not even the one that got in trouble
because the other kid brought the knife.

Speaker 7 (01:36:33):
But we all knew those kids where you'd be insane
to fight them. I mean they'll kill.

Speaker 2 (01:36:38):
You, literally, they'll kill you, right, all right?

Speaker 7 (01:36:41):
Hey Bernard, what is your comment on the Kurt issue
with the telephone polls and what's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:36:47):
Man?

Speaker 19 (01:36:49):
Well, there's two fighting. The City of Denver could write
excelent letter and ask him to know.

Speaker 7 (01:36:56):
Yeah, of course, yeah this guy, this guy wants to
get on with the demo and knock it out like
you know tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:37:02):
Though.

Speaker 7 (01:37:03):
I get you're right though the city of Denver could
get involved.

Speaker 19 (01:37:06):
Yeah, but he's been screwing Ruthers for fun a while, right.

Speaker 7 (01:37:10):
I don't think so, honestly, But it doesn't matter. I
agree with you one hundred percent. If anybody could get
their attention, it's going to be I was going to
say the mayor, but honestly, I don't think he could
get anybody's attention.

Speaker 2 (01:37:22):
Keep going.

Speaker 1 (01:37:22):
Well.

Speaker 19 (01:37:22):
The other thing is that each one of those companies
that have a stell from the poll write them a
letter and say you've been trying to get you know, yeah,
talking to your local people. They've been giving the run round,
and that they've got, you know, ten days in the ring.

Speaker 7 (01:37:37):
Rich Hey, but why do you why are you even
going there? Meaning have you had to deal with this before?

Speaker 19 (01:37:45):
Why I'm going to construction engine there for years?

Speaker 1 (01:37:47):
Got it? Well?

Speaker 7 (01:37:49):
See, we know, we literally know two people we call
them angels, one at each and one of them is
a guy that literally does exactly this. He either builds out
or take down for century Link or Loomis or whatever
they're called now. And so I have a feeling this
will get handled in the next couple of days just

(01:38:09):
through our angels. But I appreciate it under NORGL circumstances.
You're absolutely right. I mean, basically you got to just
go contact them and at some point maybe just drive
down to a local office.

Speaker 19 (01:38:22):
Right. But if you send in the letter and nothing happened,
at least you got something going.

Speaker 2 (01:38:27):
Yeah, you definitely do.

Speaker 7 (01:38:28):
I agree with that one hundred percent, Ben art Hey,
I appreciate the call man three oh three seven one
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right after this? Got two lines open, three zero three Martino,
we want to hear from you.

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Speaker 7 (01:39:08):
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Speaker 7 (01:39:20):
All Right, three oh three seven one three a two
five five two lines open. Hey, Kelly, is that that
same guy? Don different guy? Update that because mine says
don on here? But anyhow, Artists, what's going on with you? Artists?

Speaker 20 (01:39:33):
Okay?

Speaker 6 (01:39:36):
I need a referral to a car from Colorado to Mississippi.

Speaker 2 (01:39:41):
Okay, don't want to get ripped off again like my
son did two years ago? Got it?

Speaker 18 (01:39:47):
What this virtue dies?

Speaker 2 (01:39:49):
So here's what I do?

Speaker 19 (01:39:50):
Can you recommend the company.

Speaker 7 (01:39:51):
Yeah, it's not a company, it's a person. We know
Rod with Jfarcars. Here's what Rod's gonna do. He's gonna
mark it up a little so, I mean he might
charge fifty hundred bucks whatever it is, but he's going
to go on to a site that they use all
the time. JFR Cars ships cars all over the country
and they're part of a group of people that can

(01:40:11):
go on and they know when a certain company they
trust has a truck in the area, and basically they
grab that truck, they get the best price and get
it done. And I mean it's going to be ensured.
Nothing's going to happen. It's going to be the best
way to go. But that's ah. I want you to
call Rid up and then he'll get it for you.
And he'll also find you the best price because he's

(01:40:32):
going to be looking at all the different pricing as well.

Speaker 18 (01:40:35):
He's like a broker.

Speaker 7 (01:40:36):
Then, yeah, he's like a broker, but he ships cars
personally all over the country.

Speaker 2 (01:40:42):
He knows all the shippers.

Speaker 7 (01:40:45):
Okay, yeah, he deals directly with the shippers.

Speaker 2 (01:40:48):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (01:40:49):
He doesn't own his own shipping company, but he deals
with all the good ones. So he's going to tell
you which one to use.

Speaker 20 (01:40:56):
What's JFR cars.

Speaker 7 (01:40:58):
Three h three asks for Rod three oh three five
two zero six eight three nine. You can also find
JFR on our referral list at referral list dot com.

Speaker 17 (01:41:10):
I was looking for that.

Speaker 18 (01:41:11):
I couldn't find the referral list.

Speaker 7 (01:41:13):
Oh, just referral list dot com and under search just
at JFR.

Speaker 5 (01:41:18):
Oh okay, got that all right?

Speaker 7 (01:41:20):
Artist appreciated.

Speaker 5 (01:41:21):
I don't I don't trust just anybody.

Speaker 7 (01:41:24):
This is you said your son got ripped off? Just
out of curiosity? What happened? How do you get ripped off?
The car never showed up, showed up, damage, charged them more.

Speaker 18 (01:41:33):
She shipped his merchandise from Colorado to Mississippi end that
we went two months late.

Speaker 5 (01:41:39):
Parva got there and the other part dune.

Speaker 18 (01:41:41):
Yeah it was dammaged.

Speaker 19 (01:41:42):
Yeah, it was pure Hall.

Speaker 7 (01:41:43):
So yeah, and a lot of people that was his car.
A lot of people don't realize too when you're shipping
most things, especially interstate, I mean you're looking at sixty
to seventy cents a pound if they break some can
you imagine that? Think about like a brand new one
thousand dollars eighty five inch TV John and the thing

(01:42:04):
weighs let's say thirty five pounds, and they're going to
give you twenty bucks for it because it's by the pound.

Speaker 2 (01:42:10):
Ye. People don't get it. People just don't get it.

Speaker 7 (01:42:12):
In fact, just as a side note, I don't think
when we move, I don't think we're moving. I don't
think I'm going to I'm gonna either sell all the
furniture or just get rid of it. I mean, I'm
to the point now where I don't even I don't
think it makes sense to move furniture across the country.
I mean, unless you have something that's like really crazy.

(01:42:33):
But I just think it would be cheaper to buy
new stuff or at least hassle factor a lot better.

Speaker 2 (01:42:40):
Plus the stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:42:41):
We have now in what we you know, our country estate,
if you will, out in the woods would look pretty
strange in a modern condo somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:42:49):
The challenge that you have is that if you buy
new stuff, a lot of times it takes four to
six weeks to get it, sometimes even ten or twelve
to get it. Yeah, and so it's really hard to
kind of stagger, you know, leaving and getting rid of
all the other stuff and showing up with nothing and
then figuring out what to do for a couple of months.

Speaker 7 (01:43:08):
A lot of condos, like if you have like you know,
if you have a place in Keystone, for example, they're Breckenridge,
a lot of those kind of ski and condos and stuff,
they're always sold with the furniture. Yeah, And then is
that true in general with like I don't know, like
something over at Landmark. I mean, if you buy something

(01:43:28):
in Landmark, I bet a lot of times. I think
when Tom sold his Unity sold it furnished. I think
it's really expensive to move out of the top floor.

Speaker 2 (01:43:36):
I think it's if it's you know, I think it
really comes down to whether the sellers, you know, it
was their primary residence or not. If it's a second home,
you're more likely that they're going to leave it because, yeah,
what are they going to do with it?

Speaker 7 (01:43:49):
Yeah, they have no place to put it an one.

Speaker 2 (01:43:51):
But for somebody that actually lives there it's their stuff,
you're much less likely that they're going to leave it.

Speaker 7 (01:43:56):
So we've got one I want to talk about coming
up and don I'll get you in a second. We
can free up artists there three oh three seven one
three A two five five. We'd love to hear from
you any questions you have loved to go after a
contractor anything. We love sinking our teeth into that stuff
or just giving advice. Three zero three seven one three
A two five five. One more hour coming up. But John,

(01:44:18):
I'm going to talk to you about something we discussed
on air. Actually I wasn't here, but I heard you
talking about it. The guy that got hit. Oh, I
send it to you. I do remember this. I know
why I remember it with you. I sent you over
that caller we had that were the gate on I
seventy opened up one of the snow gates or wind
gates or basically closed the road down and it hit

(01:44:40):
their car, did about ten fifteen thousand dollars worth of damage.
And then what happened was they turned it into State
of Colorado where Sea died. They got denied and do
you remember why it got denied? With the denial letter
said roughly do you remember?

Speaker 2 (01:44:55):
Yeah? What did it say? We didn't have knowledge of
it before the incident.

Speaker 7 (01:44:59):
I have an update for you after this break that's
gonna blow your mind about that exact same gate. Everybody
hold on perfect tease.

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Speaker 3 (01:46:15):
Ripped off, mad News? Need advice? Who you don't have?

Speaker 1 (01:46:21):
Come running just as fast as we can.

Speaker 3 (01:46:26):
Shooter's gonna help. Come man, This is.

Speaker 16 (01:46:31):
The Troubleshooter Show Now, Tom Martinez, Welcome, Welcome to the
Only Show.

Speaker 7 (01:46:39):
If it's kind. We're here to solve problems, answer questions,
take complaints, make your life just a little bit better.
In fact, to the tune of over three hundred million
in cash, merchandise exchanges, refund services directly due to this show.
If you've been ripped off, or maybe you want to
prevent being ripped off, and you have a question, we
want to hear from you. Three zero three seven one

(01:47:01):
three eight two five five. Attorney John Fuller joins me
to my left, my beautiful wife, Suzanne Brooke White with
Redrocksars dot Com, Redrocks Roof and Solar in Deputy Doc.

Speaker 2 (01:47:14):
We've got Dragon and we've got Kelly on the other
side of the glass.

Speaker 7 (01:47:18):
If anybody has any questions wants to talk to us,
we'd love to hear from you. Three zero three seven
one three eight two five five. Great time to get
through now, John, I want to talk to you about this.
I kind of teased it. It's crazy. We had a
caller reach out to us at help at trebleshooter dot
com and they sent me a video and I sent
the video to you. They're driving down I seventy and

(01:47:39):
these gates where they close the highway down generally due
to weather, swung open and hit their car and it's
the video is literally a dashcm and you can see it.
It's like the gate was fine, yep, no problem. Next
thing you know, it opens up and it happens to
hit their car. I think it was ten grand in damage, yep.
And they did.

Speaker 2 (01:47:58):
Everything they were supposed to.

Speaker 7 (01:48:00):
They called the police, they made an accident report, they
reached out to Sea Dot. They went through the online
portal to try to get reimbursed hip for the body shop,
and they got denied because.

Speaker 2 (01:48:14):
We didn't have knowledge of the dangerous condition before this accident.

Speaker 7 (01:48:17):
So listen to this. After that aired on here, Okay,
listen to this. This other one came out and this
happened about a week ago. That same exact gate, the
exact same exact gate in twenty twenty three hit a

(01:48:39):
truck and did twenty three thousand dollars worth of damage
to the truck, the exact same one.

Speaker 2 (01:48:46):
Are you telling me they had the police report lied
about the gate.

Speaker 7 (01:48:50):
I'm saying Sea Dot said they didn't know about it.
But how wouldn't they have known about it if it
happened back in twenty twenty three.

Speaker 2 (01:49:00):
You can't be serious.

Speaker 7 (01:49:01):
They out in front of me when I was going
to pass somebody else. Harvey said, there was nowhere else
I could go. I couldn't hit the brakes, and I
hit it head on. Cost twenty grand of damage to
my truck.

Speaker 2 (01:49:15):
And they paid for it. And no, they didn't pay
for it. They invoked the same thing I said.

Speaker 7 (01:49:19):
I contacted my insurance company, who contacted Sea Dot. Sea
dot said, it's a road hazard in Colorado, and that's
something you're supposed to look out for.

Speaker 2 (01:49:32):
So here's the deal. Just let me kind of set
the legal, you know, framework for why this went down
the way it went down. Okay times so you know,
simple negligence is new or should have known. I mean,
the gate wasn't ladged. Maybe you could foresee that the
thing could swing open and a windo or something on
a windy day sometimes blows in eastern Colorado. Crazy but true,

(01:49:56):
and and we would just be dealing with foreseeability. But
when it's a government actor, for seability alone doesn't carry
the day because we have the governmental immunity standards which
we have to have, which we have to have, makes
total sense, But the effect of the governmental Immunity statute
is to raise up the required level of knowledge above

(01:50:18):
just simple foreseeability and newer to gross No, you have
to have actual knowledge, which is kind of the same
as gross negligence, but you have to actually show knowledge
of the dangerous convention.

Speaker 7 (01:50:30):
So, for example, if someone was working on that gate
the day before and realize the latch was broken.

Speaker 2 (01:50:38):
Good, and they were waiting a day to get the
new latch, and even if somebody emailed them a year
before and said, hey, that gate looks a little close
to the road, that would be enough. The challenge is,
I mean, here's really what it comes down to. How
the heck do you get somebody to give you the
information that you need to be able to prove that
they had knowledge of something. Let's get out of the

(01:51:00):
government immunity.

Speaker 1 (01:51:01):
Yep.

Speaker 7 (01:51:02):
So let's say it's a I'm trying to think of
a good example. Let's say a slip and fall on
government property. No, let's a slip and fall at Walmart,
or a slipping fall at Sears, or a slipping fall anywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:51:14):
Okay, So if you don't.

Speaker 7 (01:51:17):
Know there's a piece of ice outside wherever, let's say
it's society of your building, it's not in the main walkway,
and someone slips and falls pushing a grocery cart out
to their car the first time it happens, how would
Walmart have ever known it was there?

Speaker 2 (01:51:32):
It doesn't matter, because the standard for a private landowner
is a new or should have known standard. Okay, So
either we can say you did know about it, or
if you didn't, you should have. You operate a big
parking lot it gets snow, you're in charge of cleaning it.
You hire companies. You're unnoticed that we could potentially have ice. Okay,

(01:51:55):
so new or should have known. But the government, in
their infinite ways, put a little provision in there. The
humility says, when we're dealing with the governmental immunity situation,
simple new or should have known doesn't carry the day.
That component of the analysis is ramped up to the
next level, which requires actual knowledge.

Speaker 7 (01:52:15):
But most of the slipping falls you hear about in
a parking lot, there's generally never a payout on there,
are there? I mean, if it just snows, like how long?
What's reasonable? So you know a halstorm comes through or
a snowstorm comes through, Well when does a retail shop?
When are they expected to know there's ice? Get rid

(01:52:36):
of the ice? Well, actually sign me up.

Speaker 2 (01:52:39):
We do have successful cases under those circumstances, and a
lot of times it comes down to you know, they'll
you've got a reason. You've got a contract that says
you're supposed to come plow and as salt a parking lot.
Whenever you have an accumulation of two inches, yeah, can
get we get six? And they didn't show.

Speaker 7 (01:52:56):
Yeah, like Denver makes all retailers shovel the sidewalks within
X amount of time.

Speaker 2 (01:53:02):
Yeah, so we have a standard. We may have a
contract that sets forth a duty on some particular defendant
to come out and plow and shovel and salt and
sand and all that, and they don't do it, or
you know, or you have I've had cases where you know,
there's a manager that has to give the final go
ahead because they don't want the snowplow to show up
in charge of money. Every time there's a flake of snow,

(01:53:24):
they're like, well it was two inches in wherever. So
some manager has to give the go ahead and they're like,
well not yet, not yet, not yet, And then they
don't do it when clearly it goes over that threshold.
Then they're going to be held responsible because they knew
or they should have known.

Speaker 7 (01:53:40):
Have you ever had a case where a car accident.

Speaker 2 (01:53:46):
Yep.

Speaker 7 (01:53:46):
But let's say it's a maybe it was a stolen
car or someone that wasn't supposed to be driving the car, yep.
And the insurance simply won't pay because they weren't supposed
to be driving the car. And there's nothing the other
party can do at that point right, In other words,
your client if they're not if they're not going to

(01:54:07):
cover it, I mean that is a true out or
or I also heard this and tell me if I'm right,
then I want to see if you ever had a
case like this where if I'm in my own car
and I have insurance, I have liability insurance. Let's they
have a lot of it. But I decide I'm going
to like rob a bank or rob a seven to
eleven in my car and I'm driving away and I'm

(01:54:29):
trying to get away quick and I run into somebody.
Could my insurance not pay because I was in the
middle of a crime even though it's me driving my car.

Speaker 2 (01:54:38):
Okay, so you just threw out three different scenarios there.
Let me enough in turn the simplest one. If your
car gets stolen and you had no culpability in it
getting stolen, like you didn't leave it outside warming up
with the keys in it, or something that we could
point to you as being you know, negligent in getting stolen,
or something that your insurance is almost certainly never gonna

(01:55:00):
pay for those damages. Okay. Scenario number two would be,
let me give you a scenario Let's say you and
your you know girlfriend break up. Okay, but but prior
to that, she drove your car all the time. Okay,
so she at one point was a permissive driver. The

(01:55:21):
law in Colorado says, if you ever were a permissive driver,
you always are a permissive.

Speaker 7 (01:55:26):
So even if you broke up, if she stole your
car the next week to get.

Speaker 2 (01:55:30):
Back at you, yes, she's still going to be a
permissive driver. Your insurance coverage would apply and would provide
for you know, a victim of an action, even if
you told her don't ever touch my car again. I
had a case where a guy showed up, i mean,
beat the ever living you know what out of his ex,
kidnapped her, stuffed her in the car, got in her car,

(01:55:51):
and drove off, and we still got coverage for the
accident that happened about two blocks away.

Speaker 7 (01:55:56):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:55:57):
So yes, now your third.

Speaker 7 (01:55:59):
Scenario remissive driver, always driver, Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:56:04):
And that's crazy. Yep. In the eyes of the law,
that's exactly it. And so your third scenario again was well.

Speaker 7 (01:56:12):
If you're oh yeah, yeah, if you're if you're committed,
you're a crime.

Speaker 2 (01:56:15):
You're robbing a bank as you tend to do seven
eleven stuff or seven elevens whatever, and you drive away
and you run over somebody. Okay, there are in almost
every insurance contract provisions that say we will not pay
for damages incurred during the commission of a.

Speaker 7 (01:56:32):
Crime, even if it's you driving, even if it's you driving.
Have you ever ran up against that in all your
time where the insurance company not not your client, because
you're usually on the other side, but you're fighting to
get paid and they're saying, nope, we're not going to
cover it because of this clause.

Speaker 2 (01:56:49):
Yeah, they've tried to. I haven't had one that was
successful in in truly denying it, you know. And and
and the guy that was driving it certainly wants there
to be insurance coverage because that person is on the line.
If the insurance doesn't pay, they're in a real pickle there.
So they've always been super cooperative with us in sating

(01:57:11):
it was a complete accident. I was totally you know,
and we've been successful. You know that dealy has happened. Yeah,
for sure. That's the reason why d ULI accidents are covered.

Speaker 7 (01:57:21):
Okay, wait, because wait, I got to take this break,
because that's where I was going to go next, Yep,
if it's in, if it's during the commission of a
crime and someone's out getting drunk, or let's even go,
let's even go a step further. They're cruising down I
twenty five shoving Jack Daniels down their throat by the bottle.
To me, that's a big time crime. They're in the

(01:57:43):
commission of a crime right there. They're drinking and driving,
So I assume and we'll talk about it after this.
They wouldn't have any coverage, but they always seem to.

Speaker 11 (01:57:52):
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Speaker 7 (01:58:28):
All right, three oh three seven one three eight two
five five. You've been ripped off taking advantage of just
need some help. We want to hear from you. We
got lines open three zero three Martino. I want to
go back to John Fuller. Then I got a text
for Brook with redrocksr AS dot com. John. So we
were talking about during a commission of a crime, and
we were talking about if I robbed to seven eleven

(01:58:51):
in my car, that I have liability insurance and I
run into somebody or run over somebody, my insurance company
could deny the claim because I was I was using
the car during the commission of a crime.

Speaker 2 (01:59:04):
Pretty much straight up yep.

Speaker 7 (01:59:05):
But I said, then how come people with DUIs all
the time, and I mean like bad ones, how come
their insurance pay So you're driving down the highway and
someone sucking down Jack Daniels like pez candy or something,
and then they run into another car and create a
big injury or death or something like that. Why isn't

(01:59:27):
that a crime as well? Why does insurance always pay out? Yeah,
it's a it's a great question.

Speaker 2 (01:59:34):
But the reality is the driving is distinct from the drunkenness. Okay,
so it's not the drunkenness that causes the accident, it's
the negligent driving that causes the accident. Got it. So
it's driving off the road, it's whatever. I mean, that's truly.
The difference is that you can't you can't conflate the

(01:59:54):
two acts. They're distinctly and and and legally set it acts.
You know. The negligence that caused the accident is they
didn't intend the accident. It was still an accident that
was not you know, on purpose that they ran into it.
That would be an intentional act that wouldn't be covered.
This is an accident and they just happened to be

(02:00:16):
in violation of They could have been in violation of
a seat belt law. Let's just let's use that as
texting now. Or texting, you wouldn't say that the the
violation of the seat belt law should invalidate insurance coverage. Yeah, gotcha.

Speaker 7 (02:00:30):
So it's the same kind of concept. It's kind of
funny thinking about it that way. If I was an
insurance company, I would love to be able to say, Okay,
if you're intoxicated, you don't have coverage.

Speaker 2 (02:00:41):
Yeah, and some try to do that. Actually, be very hard.

Speaker 7 (02:00:45):
Can there be so many people that aren't covered.

Speaker 8 (02:00:47):
In the scenario that Mark originally mentioned what's the difference
if he robbed a bank and on the way out
hit somebody. How is that different?

Speaker 7 (02:00:55):
Do you want it's still not Well, the robbing the
bank was intentional, it was so it was drinking.

Speaker 8 (02:01:01):
But yeah, you're doc, You're right, So why I'm just
cherious why it would be different.

Speaker 2 (02:01:07):
It just is. I mean, it's it's one of those
things where and and and listen, the commission of a crime,
exclusion is is really more predicated on the intentionality of
the driving. So if you're driving fast, trying to escape
from the scene, it's that is an intentional act. You're

(02:01:28):
you're breaking that. It's your speed and inability to control
the vehicle that is the cause of the accent.

Speaker 7 (02:01:35):
Or trying to run from the cops.

Speaker 2 (02:01:36):
Yeah, or running from the cops. I mean, that is
the crime that you're doing. That's the intentional deal. The
drunk guy is not intending to break the law. He's
trying to drive good. He's just happens to be drunk.
That makes I think that's really where the it's the
intentional part.

Speaker 7 (02:01:52):
Yes, So if I if someone took their car and
intentionally they're really pissed at their neighbor, whatever, it's a
neighbor thing that just blew out of control, and they
grabbed their car and run over their mailbox and run
over their shed in their truck. There's probably no coverage
because they did it on purpose, correct, simple as that.

(02:02:14):
Absolutely it does homeowners work the exact same way for
the most part.

Speaker 2 (02:02:18):
I think. So. Yeah, it's hard to say I accidentally
ran through the guy's fence and over his tough shed.
And I mean, who was the what was the politician
that I thought they were going to talk about Tiger Woods?
Tiger of course, but the who was it that the
neighbor went and assaulted him when he was cutting his

(02:02:41):
grass or something? It was no, No, it was the guy,
the Texas guy.

Speaker 7 (02:02:47):
No, wasn't it. No, it definitely wasn't Ross Brow No, no, no,
got it. Can't believe. I can't think of his name.
I can picture him perfectly.

Speaker 10 (02:02:55):
I thought it was one of the Pauls.

Speaker 2 (02:02:57):
I don't think it was Ron Paul.

Speaker 7 (02:02:59):
Yeah, so the neighbor over ran rad All and just
beat the hell out of him.

Speaker 8 (02:03:05):
But that's in Kentucky, not Texas.

Speaker 7 (02:03:07):
And what did he say, though I didn't know, did
he say it was an accident?

Speaker 2 (02:03:10):
I accidentally punched him. In essence, yeah, he tried to
and and I mean that case was that was just dumb,
you know all the way around. It wasn't really an
insurance deal. But but it was your example about running
through the neighbor spence because you get so mad at
him for whatever.

Speaker 7 (02:03:27):
You know, I bet there's been husbands or wives they
got really mad and they take one car and run
into the other. Now, what happens if someone did run
into your own car on accident? Once again, let's take out.
Let's take out. It wasn't intentional, it's an accident.

Speaker 2 (02:03:42):
It's covered, so they cover it.

Speaker 7 (02:03:43):
I back out and I don't realize Suzanne parked right
behind me and I run into all the.

Speaker 2 (02:03:48):
Time and it's covered.

Speaker 7 (02:03:49):
Yeah, well that's good to know.

Speaker 2 (02:03:52):
That's really good care for where you parked. Susan.

Speaker 7 (02:03:55):
What you say out of all your clientele, and I
don't mean your clientele, I'm going to take that back.
I'm talking the other side, the people you go after,
like the people that hit us. Ironically, the ones that
hit us. She was a woman and the one that
rear and daddy was a woman, So just ironic. But
I'm asking you and you know, feel free if you

(02:04:18):
don't want to go there. But then I'll know what
the answer is. Do people that cause accidents tend to
be women?

Speaker 2 (02:04:27):
Nice? Nice? Try? I don't. I truly don't know. It's
not something that I track in my firm, got it,
I I would, I truly wouldn't know. I mean, I
would tell you if I if I had a sense
of it.

Speaker 7 (02:04:43):
But I lit teenagers.

Speaker 2 (02:04:45):
I can't say. I can't say that it's decidedly, you know,
a female roster of defendants in my firm. I don't.
I don't know that it is. I think it's probably,
you know, equal to the demographic makeup in the in
the community. I mean, really it makes sense. Maybe I would,
I would have to guess that, you know, maybe younger

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drivers are more prevalent than than older drivers, and you
know kids more than you know. You could probably look
deep into it and come up with all these crazy conclusions.
But but it's not something that I track, And I
truly don't have the sense to say that it's a rule,
that's the mark rule.

Speaker 7 (02:05:22):
I know this for a fact.

Speaker 2 (02:05:24):
Young boys costs more to ensure than young girls. I
guarantee of the insurance companies know exactly who's more likely
to get in an accident, Yeah, and charge accordingly.

Speaker 7 (02:05:35):
And then how about how about someone I've heard I've
heard maybe it was you. I've heard someone say that
if it truly is a health issue. In other words,
you legitimately have a stroke and you pass out, Thank
God you live, but you cause a big accident that
you can actually but be denied because well it's not intentional.

(02:05:57):
You didn't intentionally have a stroke. So but it was
kind of like an act of God.

Speaker 2 (02:06:01):
Yeah, and I think that still is there to a degree.
We had this thing called a sudden emergency doctrine in
Colorado for a long time that that would apply in
that circumstance directly towards.

Speaker 7 (02:06:14):
The insurance company. In other words, it wasn't out.

Speaker 2 (02:06:16):
Right they would say, we're not covering it to sudden emergency.
They weren't negligent, there's no you know, there's no insurable
act there, you know. But then the defense bar started
pushing the envelope and they pushed it a little bit
too far, and they did it for a lady that
lost control over cars.

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Speaker 7 (02:07:09):
All right, three oh three seven one three eight two
five five three zero three Martino, We've been picking John
Fuller's brain left and right today. It's been kind of crazy.
I love thinking about just law in general. John, you
did some criminal defense. By the way, we have lines
open three oh three seven one three eight two five five,

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and I've got some questions for Brookie Redrocks. But you
did criminal law for a little bit, right, I did.
What side of the arena? Were you on the DA
side or both sides.

Speaker 2 (02:07:40):
Are on the defense side? On the defense side, were
you ever a public defender? Negative ghost rider?

Speaker 7 (02:07:47):
That's got to be a hard one.

Speaker 2 (02:07:49):
Well, you know it's the same job, but the complicating
you know what makes it difficult is they.

Speaker 7 (02:07:55):
Just get you're not getting paid.

Speaker 2 (02:07:57):
Well, being ombwhelmed with a million cases. You know, there's
you know, if those guys are like, look, I can
get a great deal, or do you want to go
to trial, and they're like, I want to go to trial,
you know, and so they end up trying.

Speaker 7 (02:08:10):
Because they're not paying for an attorney.

Speaker 2 (02:08:12):
Yeah, exactly, and and they figure just roll the dice.
I mean, what's the worst that can happen? I lose.
That's the same thing as a as a plea. So
if those guys get i mean just the worst cases,
some of the worst clients, and they get you know,
overwhelmed with cases, I mean, it's a bad deal. I
feel sorry for him. A lot of times. They are
phenomenal attorneys, you know, they get they get the worst

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facts and they play cases. It's kind of like putting
in your does though right in the d well. It's
not in the DA's office at all.

Speaker 7 (02:08:41):
But I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (02:08:43):
The DA and the PD are not connected in any way.
They're but they're both paid for by the city right
well by the state. Normally, you know, it's a the
DA's or state agencies and the public defenders as well,
but they're completely separate. There's no there's no connection.

Speaker 1 (02:08:58):
What's up.

Speaker 7 (02:08:59):
So Adeline worked in the public Defender's office over I
think last summer in Wyoming, YEP. And most of them
coming through that she dealt with drove her crazy because
they're almost all the same. It was child neglect, child molestation,
and we're talking generally by someone in the family, right,

(02:09:19):
And she said she just could.

Speaker 2 (02:09:21):
Never do it.

Speaker 7 (02:09:21):
She said, it's so hard to get up there. And
you know, she was there interning, so it's not like
I mean, she's working under somebody's my point, and she goes,
I just don't even know how they do it. I mean,
it's just outright disgusting some of these people. And you
got to get up there and defend them. Yeah, it's
gotta be tough as hell.

Speaker 2 (02:09:40):
There are bad facts and bad people and bad cases
out there every time, you know, and those people are
entitled to a defense. In large god largely, the defense
that they get provided doesn't require that we endorse what
they did or didn't do. I mean, we're we're not.
I mean, we're we're providing a legal defense that's different

(02:10:02):
than you know, than saying I'm advocating that their behavior was.

Speaker 7 (02:10:08):
If you hire a criminal defense attorney, and let's say
I walk in and I come in and say, hey,
I need an attorney. I got arrested for domestic violence
last night. And I looked and I go, yep, and
she really pissed me off, and I punched her in
the face and I threw her down the stairs, and

(02:10:28):
I literally come out to the attorney of what I did.
They can still defend me, right, They don't have to.
They don't have to tell anybody.

Speaker 2 (02:10:37):
Criminal defense is mostly about ensuring that the process that's
in place was applied correctly and worked. So it's about
the quality of the evidence, the quality of the probable cause,
the propriety of the actions that were taken by the police,
and building the case. You know, all of those factors.

Speaker 7 (02:10:57):
That if you know your client well is guilty of.

Speaker 2 (02:11:02):
Such, put him on that that doesn't really matter. That's
that's not the issue unless you're going to trial and
you're going to put the guy on the stand and
and and ask him the question, so did you do it?
He answers, No, that's suborning perjury. You couldn't. You couldn't
do that, okay, But but generally speaking, nothing. But I'm
just saying the general process of criminal defense is not

(02:11:26):
focused on that issue. It's it's not It's.

Speaker 7 (02:11:30):
Focused on if everything was done properly.

Speaker 2 (02:11:32):
Yeah, you did what you did. I'll do what I do,
And what I do is focused on the case and
the evidence and the rules and the law and the
court and the process and all of those things that
go into a competent legal defense.

Speaker 7 (02:11:43):
And ever since I've known you, you've been personal injury.
So why did you move? And it's been a long time.
I mean, you must have been in the criminal realm
years ago. That sounds weird, the criminal realm, criminal defense realm.
So what what what made you move?

Speaker 2 (02:11:58):
We know, it just got to where my practice required
one hundred percent of my efforts on one side or
the other. And and you know, I my commitment to
my clients that are my injury clients and stuff. I mean,
you know, I'm I'm on those cases for sometimes two
and three years easily, and so you know, that's a

(02:12:20):
much bigger commitment than three or four court appearances on
a criminal case and stuff. So it just got to
a point where professionally I needed to kind of pick
between the two, got it, and I totally picked the
people that I've got my long term commitments with and
that I've you.

Speaker 7 (02:12:35):
Know, and you're always on the good side of it. Honestly,
you're helping people, seriously, you're helping people get back on
their feet, get back to their life, and getting their damages.
Hey John, what is your question for red Rocks?

Speaker 20 (02:12:47):
Hey Mark, So I have four panels on my ropes
that got installed about seven years ago, and about six
months ago they just stopped.

Speaker 7 (02:13:01):
All right, hold on, John, let me take this and
I'm gonna have Brook answer that second we come back,
so we can give her a few minutes. Hold tight.

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Speaker 7 (02:13:41):
All right, three oh three seven one three eight two
five five, don't forget three oh three Martino works on
and off the air. Help at troubleshooter dot com. John
called in, Hey, John, So you've got an old solar
system on your house for the panels are not working.
Now that's where we left finish your question.

Speaker 20 (02:13:59):
Okay, So I was just curious of from what I
could tell, there's no inverter that's installed like on the
wall outside my house. I'm assuming there's just an inverter
underneath each channel or one for all four underneath there
is there a fuse in there that could go bad

(02:14:19):
or what primarily would cause these things to the not produce.

Speaker 2 (02:14:23):
How old is it?

Speaker 7 (02:14:24):
Real quick? Then brick jump in.

Speaker 20 (02:14:27):
They're around seven.

Speaker 10 (02:14:29):
Is this an off grid or an on grade system?

Speaker 20 (02:14:34):
So it's producing to a smart meter, That's all I
could tell you.

Speaker 18 (02:14:39):
I guess.

Speaker 9 (02:14:41):
Yeah, So then there's got to be an inverter of
some sort if it's like sending the power and you're
still connected to the grid, so your inverter probably went bad,
is what my guess is. If you only have four panels,
then it's definitely an in Phase system because there's no
other system that would support that.

Speaker 10 (02:15:00):
So you just need to.

Speaker 9 (02:15:01):
Find that en Phase box and then have somebody come
out and do you a warranty claim because n Phase
warranties their systems for twenty five years, so you're well
within that twenty five year mark.

Speaker 2 (02:15:12):
So but they don't pay for the service part, right,
just the part.

Speaker 10 (02:15:16):
Yeah, they'll pay for the parts. You have to find
somebody that's going to.

Speaker 2 (02:15:18):
Come out and I mean do you guys do that?

Speaker 10 (02:15:21):
Yeah, we absolutely do.

Speaker 7 (02:15:21):
So you would go out there and if it's what
you're thinking, you would get it warranted and then basically
the part would be free and he'd just pay you
guys labor just an idea, broke. How much is that labor?
Just an idea?

Speaker 10 (02:15:32):
It's like two or three hours worth of work for
it and that's it. That's it. Yeah, it's pretty quick.

Speaker 7 (02:15:36):
Oh that sounds really straightforward, John, it does. So do
they give you any and you know it's that particular
one with the twenty five year warranty because that's the
only company that made an inverter for four panels.

Speaker 9 (02:15:51):
Yeah, so anything that's eight panels or less has got
to be en phase because everything else is DC and
it cannot operate.

Speaker 7 (02:15:58):
Wow, that's a real small system though, John, how much
when everything was working, if you even own the house
at the time, I mean, how much would that offset
your energy?

Speaker 20 (02:16:09):
Oh not buy a whole bunch.

Speaker 18 (02:16:10):
Uh.

Speaker 20 (02:16:11):
I couldn't even tell you to kill a watch, but
it was pretty insignificant. We got it more for the Well,
we got an upgrade on our use panel and we
got insulation put in our attics.

Speaker 2 (02:16:24):
Oh, I got you.

Speaker 7 (02:16:25):
You got you took advantage of like an Excel rebate
or something along those terms.

Speaker 20 (02:16:31):
Yeah, yeah, okay, Well that's good.

Speaker 2 (02:16:35):
Yeah, Well, I mean call them up.

Speaker 7 (02:16:36):
Just go to redrocksars dot com and all the people
that come out and work on it and swap that
out and help you. They all work directly for a brook.
I mean that's it. It's pretty simple like that, John Fuller.
And by the way, redrocksars dot com once again commercial systems.
They do all kinds of repairs, residential, commercial, you name it.
Everybody's in house Redrocksars dot com. John Fuller, good seeing

(02:17:00):
you as always, and everybody else, have a great day.
Tomorrow is car day right here on the Troubleshooter Show,