December 10, 2025 • 10 mins
Congressman Mike Carey continues to battle in Washington and has done some great work this year! Mike discusses Healthcare and the No Boss Act
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Saw a list of the top ten most annoying Christmas songs,
and number one on the list, this is kind of funny.
All I Want for Christmas is You by Mariah Carey,
no kidding, which is ironic because it's also a very
popular Christmas song.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
In fact, I heard it was the most popular.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I think it is. Yeah, it is also, according to
this list, the most annoying. We love it and turn
it off. Well, it might be just the frequency in
which it's played the song itself, and that's I think
a lot of these songs on this list. It's not
necessarily the song, it's the frequency in which it's jammed
down your throat. Holly Jolly Christmas by Burl Lives anything
(00:35):
anything from Brenda Lee, like rocking around the Christmas Tree
or jambell Rock and it gets a little long in
the tooth. And I thought this was funny. Two former Beatles,
John Lennon's Happy Christmas. That one gets played a lot.
So this is Christmas what you do. Look, I understand
the British kind of get things backwards. It's Merry Christmas, John,
(00:55):
It's Merry Christmas. Well he was singing it for him,
I guess, and his people a Time and then Paul
McCartney's Wonderful Christmas Time.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
See, but I could hear that one of what because
it's such a one of the goodsiness. You're just kind
of bopping around, I know, but you don't sit there
in your car and go, oh my god, if I
have to a Wonderful Christmas Time again. Yeah, but it's ironic.
The two former Beatles have two songs on the list
of most Annoying Christmas Songs. And I'm a Beatles fan,
I am too. Yeah, that's funny. Two of the four.
It's like, you guys are great.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Now shut up?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, come hat Ringo, put out a Christmas song and
make it good. Please come on. Parl Lives though j
Yeah again, I like Burl Lives. But guess what's happening tomorrow? No,
I just like a little gun in your face, please know?
All right? I bet Congressman might carry on the Legacy
Retirement Group dot com phone line. Congressman is probably Michael
(01:45):
Bublay Christmas song guy, or maybe a traditional Andy Williams guy.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I'm I'm just gonna bet hey listen. Like you guys,
I'm a huge Beatle fan, but I still the one
that I always come back to, and I actually like
it is the version with David Bowie and Bing Crosby.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Oh that is good.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
That is a really well done piece. And the fact
that David Bowie wrote his piece, I think just a
few minutes before they did that duet, I think is incredible.
And as far as Burl lives, I mean, I think
all of us on you know that are on the
phone right now, the three of us, I think we
remember when he was dressed as the Nurelko razor going
down the hill. I just never been able to get
(02:23):
that out of my mind since I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Doesn't exactly scream Christmas, does it?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
But you just picture it, doesn't.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
It's so funny. Speaking with Congressman Mike Caerry, Ohio's fifteenth district,
probably our last discussion before the holidays, So we appreciate
you jumping on board of this and a lot of
things I want to get to. I want to cover
the No Boss Act, and I want to talk about
the year in review. And there's a lot of negative
things you can point to in Washington, DC, a lot
of criticism and a lot of it's justified. But Congressman,
(02:52):
there's a lot of good Man. A year ago, you know,
voters really had two issues in mind when they went
to the polls. The economy number one, border security number two,
and both of those things have been addressed.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Talk about that from it, well, I mean, I think
if you look at border security, I mean, this is
something that this year. I mean, we passed the Lincoln
Riley Act, signed that into law, protecting American communities to
make sure that they know that violent criminals are in
We passed the Halt Fentanyl Act. The other thing was
as part of the Reconciliation package, we put over one
(03:26):
hundred and seventy five billion dollars into the border security measures,
whether it's the wall, whether it's the agents. And I
think something that a lot of folks don't realize is
that just just a month ago, DHS literally marked six
months without the release of a single illegal immigrant into
the United States. So again, no matter what the press
(03:49):
is saying, I think when you start looking at it,
you realize where we were just a year ago. And
I think that's pretty good. And as far as you
know some of the issues as it relates to taxes,
I know that there are a lot of concerns you know,
we made sure that we did. We prevented the largest
middle tax tax increase that our nation would have ever seen.
That's about fifteen hundred dollars of family in the fifteenth
(04:13):
congressional district. We did a six thousand dollars tax credit
for seniors, tied the tax credit for the child tax
credit to inflation, something that had never been done. And obviously,
if you look at gas prices again, they're below three
dollars a gallon nationally for the first time in four years.
So I mean, I think if you look at those things,
there are certainly things that we have to do. The
(04:34):
shutdown did not help, and you know, we've got to
get that done this week and next week before we
go into the holidays.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
It comes down to Republicans delivering on promises in really
less than twelve months. It's pretty remarkable.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Well, I mean, listen when I believe that it is.
And I think again, if you looked at the Reconciliation Package,
there were so many facets within the Reconciliation Package that
were bipartisan. But it was just the extent of the TCJA,
which was President Trump's signature tax plan, that made it
a little more partisan. But again, we've got the Reconciliation
(05:08):
package done. We're operating in that CR We did pass
three appropriations. You and i've talked about some of the
dollars that we've gotten in. I think this week, the
end of this week, we're going to have to focus
on the NDAA, which is of course the you know,
putting the money into our America's national defense. These are
things that you're seeing, payment for troops and all the
(05:31):
things the increase that we've got to get done this
week and we'll see where we land on them.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Speaking with Congressman Mikeerry Ohios fifteenth district, the other thing
that's being discussed a lot and getting a lot of
attention in the media is the Obamacare subsidies, the extensions
there and the discussions. I kind of like, I don't
know a lot of details, and maybe you could shed
some light on this, Congressman. The president's idea is to
send money to Obamacare patients, not the insurance companies, to
(05:59):
help offset some of the costs there. I don't know
how that happens or what that looks like, if it's
sort of an HSA type of thing, but talk about
what you guys are working on now to extend the
Affordable Care Act subsidies.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Well, I mean, I think there's there's a couple of
things we've got to look at. Obamacare is going to
remain Obamacare. I mean that that that doesn't change. The
ACA subsidies were created under Biden. And listen, they had
they had a sunset that the Democrats put in at
the end of this year. It's roughly will effect roughly
about three point five million people. And I think what
(06:33):
my colleagues on the other side, they tied the Obamacare subsidies,
which that's not going away, but it's the enhanced COVID
related subsidies, Okay, that that are set to expire at
the end of the year. And I think what the
President said. I know, we talked about giving the dollars back,
and you've seen several proposals. I know that Senator John
Houstad has a proposal that he I believe, or at
(06:55):
least yesterday, which is an extension with capping the you know,
to four hundred percent I believe of the poverty level,
so you can still get that. But I think what
you're going to see, You're going to see a lot
of people in a bipartisan way talk about an extension
of the ACA. Again, Obamacare is going to remain, that
you know, and then you know, employer healthcare will remain.
(07:18):
It's the three point five you know, million people on
this ACA. And then the other thing to think about
as it relates to this, if you extend the ACA,
it's roughly about thirty billion dollars a year. So when
you're looking at extending it one year, it's roughly thirty billion.
I think from the numbers that I saw in their
(07:38):
Congressional Budget Office numbers and there was a think tank
that put it out from the White House plan, I
think it's a roughly thirty billion dollars a year to
extend those ACA coverages. I think the White House plan
looked at about fifty billion, so it's just less than
five billion than extending the current subsidies. So these are
things that listen, we've got to get this done here
(07:59):
this week or next I'm sure we'll be talking about them.
I think the President had his plan, but you've got
Bill Cassidy out of Louisiana has his plan. Senator Marino
has worked with Collins, He's got a plan. There's a
number of plans over in the House, So we'll see
what happens here in the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Is there Do Democrats really want a solution to this?
You mentioned bipartisan efforts here, because I mean, this is
it's it's this is real for a lot of people.
But it's also going to get political very quickly. You know,
people vote their wallet and midterms are right around the corner, Congressman,
and you know, I know people have cost concerns, but
you know, do Democrats really want a solution or do
(08:37):
they want to use this to leverage them coming into
November of next year.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Well, Mike, I certainly hope that they are as committed
as we are to making sure that price is you know,
the affordability. That is the key. And I think everything
that we are trying to do right now in Congress
and I think the White House, but we're truly focused
on affordability. And listen, I don't want to get political
in terms of healthcare because I don't think that's the
right thing to do. I think if you looked at
(09:04):
you know, shutting down the government, that should never be
a political football the way it was. And my hope
is that you know, serious people that are determined to
make sure we do what is right in the American public. Listen,
there are a lot of people on my side of
the aisle that simply they're going to have a difference
of opinion of me or some of the other members.
(09:25):
But I think where we have to do right now. Obviously,
price transparracy policies very important, Expanding health savings accounts are
very important. But I think as we go into this
next year, I think we have to look at the
ACA and we have to have a really strong discussion
because if we do nothing, and if something were to
happen and we and the other side plays politics, real
(09:49):
Americans could be hurt. And nobody wants to see that,
at least of all me.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Congressman Mike Carrie, what is the something you're working on
is the No Boss Act? What is that?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Well?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
This is?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
This is I think one of the one of the
bills that Representative Landsman, who's based out of Cincinnati, he
and I worked on this. What this bill does it
helps people take advantage of the Self Employment Assistance or
the C program, which essentially removes red tape and makes
it hard for states and the federal government to coordinate,
so it would with this bill would actually improve that.
(10:23):
But when people are starting their own businesses, they are
often sometimes they're considered unemployed, and so this bill just
really seeks to make starting a business easier at streamslined
the process by changing language and current law to help
people who are technically unemployed but get relief while they're
starting up their business. And we know that small business
(10:45):
really is the engine of this country. It's something that
Greg and I have worked on in the past, and
you know, hopefully we have a Reconciliation two point zero
and this could be something that we could put on
that
Saw a list of the top ten most annoying Christmas songs,
and number one on the list, this is kind of funny.
All I Want for Christmas is You by Mariah Carey,
no kidding, which is ironic because it's also a very
popular Christmas song.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
In fact, I heard it was the most popular.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I think it is. Yeah, it is also, according to
this list, the most annoying. We love it and turn
it off. Well, it might be just the frequency in
which it's played the song itself, and that's I think
a lot of these songs on this list. It's not
necessarily the song, it's the frequency in which it's jammed
down your throat. Holly Jolly Christmas by Burl Lives anything
(00:35):
anything from Brenda Lee, like rocking around the Christmas Tree
or jambell Rock and it gets a little long in
the tooth. And I thought this was funny. Two former Beatles,
John Lennon's Happy Christmas. That one gets played a lot.
So this is Christmas what you do. Look, I understand
the British kind of get things backwards. It's Merry Christmas, John,
(00:55):
It's Merry Christmas. Well he was singing it for him,
I guess, and his people a Time and then Paul
McCartney's Wonderful Christmas Time.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
See, but I could hear that one of what because
it's such a one of the goodsiness. You're just kind
of bopping around, I know, but you don't sit there
in your car and go, oh my god, if I
have to a Wonderful Christmas Time again. Yeah, but it's ironic.
The two former Beatles have two songs on the list
of most Annoying Christmas Songs. And I'm a Beatles fan,
I am too. Yeah, that's funny. Two of the four.
It's like, you guys are great.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Now shut up?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, come hat Ringo, put out a Christmas song and
make it good. Please come on. Parl Lives though j
Yeah again, I like Burl Lives. But guess what's happening tomorrow? No,
I just like a little gun in your face, please know?
All right? I bet Congressman might carry on the Legacy
Retirement Group dot com phone line. Congressman is probably Michael
(01:45):
Bublay Christmas song guy, or maybe a traditional Andy Williams guy.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I'm I'm just gonna bet hey listen. Like you guys,
I'm a huge Beatle fan, but I still the one
that I always come back to, and I actually like
it is the version with David Bowie and Bing Crosby.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Oh that is good.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
That is a really well done piece. And the fact
that David Bowie wrote his piece, I think just a
few minutes before they did that duet, I think is incredible.
And as far as Burl lives, I mean, I think
all of us on you know that are on the
phone right now, the three of us, I think we
remember when he was dressed as the Nurelko razor going
down the hill. I just never been able to get
(02:23):
that out of my mind since I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Doesn't exactly scream Christmas, does it?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
But you just picture it, doesn't.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
It's so funny. Speaking with Congressman Mike Caerry, Ohio's fifteenth district,
probably our last discussion before the holidays, So we appreciate
you jumping on board of this and a lot of
things I want to get to. I want to cover
the No Boss Act, and I want to talk about
the year in review. And there's a lot of negative
things you can point to in Washington, DC, a lot
of criticism and a lot of it's justified. But Congressman,
(02:52):
there's a lot of good Man. A year ago, you know,
voters really had two issues in mind when they went
to the polls. The economy number one, border security number two,
and both of those things have been addressed.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Talk about that from it, well, I mean, I think
if you look at border security, I mean, this is
something that this year. I mean, we passed the Lincoln
Riley Act, signed that into law, protecting American communities to
make sure that they know that violent criminals are in
We passed the Halt Fentanyl Act. The other thing was
as part of the Reconciliation package, we put over one
(03:26):
hundred and seventy five billion dollars into the border security measures,
whether it's the wall, whether it's the agents. And I
think something that a lot of folks don't realize is
that just just a month ago, DHS literally marked six
months without the release of a single illegal immigrant into
the United States. So again, no matter what the press
(03:49):
is saying, I think when you start looking at it,
you realize where we were just a year ago. And
I think that's pretty good. And as far as you
know some of the issues as it relates to taxes,
I know that there are a lot of concerns you know,
we made sure that we did. We prevented the largest
middle tax tax increase that our nation would have ever seen.
That's about fifteen hundred dollars of family in the fifteenth
(04:13):
congressional district. We did a six thousand dollars tax credit
for seniors, tied the tax credit for the child tax
credit to inflation, something that had never been done. And obviously,
if you look at gas prices again, they're below three
dollars a gallon nationally for the first time in four years.
So I mean, I think if you look at those things,
there are certainly things that we have to do. The
(04:34):
shutdown did not help, and you know, we've got to
get that done this week and next week before we
go into the holidays.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
It comes down to Republicans delivering on promises in really
less than twelve months. It's pretty remarkable.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Well, I mean, listen when I believe that it is.
And I think again, if you looked at the Reconciliation Package,
there were so many facets within the Reconciliation Package that
were bipartisan. But it was just the extent of the TCJA,
which was President Trump's signature tax plan, that made it
a little more partisan. But again, we've got the Reconciliation
(05:08):
package done. We're operating in that CR We did pass
three appropriations. You and i've talked about some of the
dollars that we've gotten in. I think this week, the
end of this week, we're going to have to focus
on the NDAA, which is of course the you know,
putting the money into our America's national defense. These are
things that you're seeing, payment for troops and all the
(05:31):
things the increase that we've got to get done this
week and we'll see where we land on them.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Speaking with Congressman Mikeerry Ohios fifteenth district, the other thing
that's being discussed a lot and getting a lot of
attention in the media is the Obamacare subsidies, the extensions
there and the discussions. I kind of like, I don't
know a lot of details, and maybe you could shed
some light on this, Congressman. The president's idea is to
send money to Obamacare patients, not the insurance companies, to
(05:59):
help offset some of the costs there. I don't know
how that happens or what that looks like, if it's
sort of an HSA type of thing, but talk about
what you guys are working on now to extend the
Affordable Care Act subsidies.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Well, I mean, I think there's there's a couple of
things we've got to look at. Obamacare is going to
remain Obamacare. I mean that that that doesn't change. The
ACA subsidies were created under Biden. And listen, they had
they had a sunset that the Democrats put in at
the end of this year. It's roughly will effect roughly
about three point five million people. And I think what
(06:33):
my colleagues on the other side, they tied the Obamacare subsidies,
which that's not going away, but it's the enhanced COVID
related subsidies, Okay, that that are set to expire at
the end of the year. And I think what the
President said. I know, we talked about giving the dollars back,
and you've seen several proposals. I know that Senator John
Houstad has a proposal that he I believe, or at
(06:55):
least yesterday, which is an extension with capping the you know,
to four hundred percent I believe of the poverty level,
so you can still get that. But I think what
you're going to see, You're going to see a lot
of people in a bipartisan way talk about an extension
of the ACA. Again, Obamacare is going to remain, that
you know, and then you know, employer healthcare will remain.
(07:18):
It's the three point five you know, million people on
this ACA. And then the other thing to think about
as it relates to this, if you extend the ACA,
it's roughly about thirty billion dollars a year. So when
you're looking at extending it one year, it's roughly thirty billion.
I think from the numbers that I saw in their
(07:38):
Congressional Budget Office numbers and there was a think tank
that put it out from the White House plan, I
think it's a roughly thirty billion dollars a year to
extend those ACA coverages. I think the White House plan
looked at about fifty billion, so it's just less than
five billion than extending the current subsidies. So these are
things that listen, we've got to get this done here
(07:59):
this week or next I'm sure we'll be talking about them.
I think the President had his plan, but you've got
Bill Cassidy out of Louisiana has his plan. Senator Marino
has worked with Collins, He's got a plan. There's a
number of plans over in the House, So we'll see
what happens here in the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Is there Do Democrats really want a solution to this?
You mentioned bipartisan efforts here, because I mean, this is
it's it's this is real for a lot of people.
But it's also going to get political very quickly. You know,
people vote their wallet and midterms are right around the corner, Congressman,
and you know, I know people have cost concerns, but
you know, do Democrats really want a solution or do
(08:37):
they want to use this to leverage them coming into
November of next year.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Well, Mike, I certainly hope that they are as committed
as we are to making sure that price is you know,
the affordability. That is the key. And I think everything
that we are trying to do right now in Congress
and I think the White House, but we're truly focused
on affordability. And listen, I don't want to get political
in terms of healthcare because I don't think that's the
right thing to do. I think if you looked at
(09:04):
you know, shutting down the government, that should never be
a political football the way it was. And my hope
is that you know, serious people that are determined to
make sure we do what is right in the American public. Listen,
there are a lot of people on my side of
the aisle that simply they're going to have a difference
of opinion of me or some of the other members.
(09:25):
But I think where we have to do right now. Obviously,
price transparracy policies very important, Expanding health savings accounts are
very important. But I think as we go into this
next year, I think we have to look at the
ACA and we have to have a really strong discussion
because if we do nothing, and if something were to
happen and we and the other side plays politics, real
(09:49):
Americans could be hurt. And nobody wants to see that,
at least of all me.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Congressman Mike Carrie, what is the something you're working on
is the No Boss Act? What is that?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Well?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
This is?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
This is I think one of the one of the
bills that Representative Landsman, who's based out of Cincinnati, he
and I worked on this. What this bill does it
helps people take advantage of the Self Employment Assistance or
the C program, which essentially removes red tape and makes
it hard for states and the federal government to coordinate,
so it would with this bill would actually improve that.
(10:23):
But when people are starting their own businesses, they are
often sometimes they're considered unemployed, and so this bill just
really seeks to make starting a business easier at streamslined
the process by changing language and current law to help
people who are technically unemployed but get relief while they're
starting up their business. And we know that small business
(10:45):
really is the engine of this country. It's something that
Greg and I have worked on in the past, and
you know, hopefully we have a Reconciliation two point zero
and this could be something that we could put on
that
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