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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On the Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone line.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Let's check in live from Southern Command, our GOP strategist,
Bob Clegg. We're sitting at twenty nine degrees this morning, Robert,
what's your thermometer say?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
We're about forty degrees warmer Mike, We're at sixty nine
right now here.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
So what are you gonna have?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Like a little flounder sandwich tonight, Maybe a little bloody
mary for lunch.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
And some fried shrimp. That sounds pretty good.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Hey, Mike, we just had an election. I always take
off right after an election because they have to work
so hard.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Well, good, and I do want to talk about election
day in just a second two both locally and naturally,
and get your thoughts.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
We have not had a chance to connect since then.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
But the big story the Senate took its first step
last night towards ending the government shutdown, which is now
forty forty first day. A group of those moderate Democrats
and some independence agreed to move forward. The big part
here is they're moving forward without the reason that we're
here in the first place, and that's a guaranteed extension
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of Obamacare.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Talk about that for a second.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah, I mean First off, you know, we've been talking
about this since the government shut down, what forty one
days ago, and basically, you know, I said at some
point the Democrats were going to cave, and.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
They did, right.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
But the problem with this is they could have caved
on this very deal forty days ago, you know, and
they didn't. I mean, it was all about I think,
all about the politics of it, including the politics of
the elections last Tuesday. And this tells you everything you
want to know about the Democrats, which is they cared
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more about their politics than they cared about the American people.
I mean say, as well, Trump should be giving them
the money. Well, no, when you shut the government down,
that means there's no money, and you know, there was
nothing you know, that you could do other than go
to court and try to force the president to do it.
The other thing about this, Mike, that I find very
interesting is we're fighting over subsidies for Obamacare.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Now.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
If I remember correctly, I thought the whole point of
Obamacare was to pass a plan that made health care
affordable to all Americans. But now they're saying, well, it's
not affordable, so we have to now give subsidies to everybody.
So that they can afford Obamacare.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I think we need to.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Make I think we need to make red hats that say,
you know, make affordable healthcare affordable again. Because that's a
great point, Bob Clig. It's a great point, because this
was they were using a short term spending bill to
push long term policy changes that just didn't belong there,
to extend those temporary, temporary COVID era spending that would
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artificially lower the Obamacare costs. And so you're right, it's
if it was supposed to be the Affordable Care Act,
why is it not so affordable anymore?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Well, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Mean that just shows the whole game they played, even
on Obamacare. It was all a game. The one thing
about the Democrats, they always want to project or portray themselves.
It's caring about the average worker and you know, we
got to do these things to help the working people
and middle class. And well, no, they're just doing it
for the optics. They're just doing it for the politics.
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They don't really care what they end up passing. That
isn't going to do what they say it's going to do.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
So, as you said, they caved.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
So it looks like we're going to end the shutdown
with the Again, it's the promise, but not a guarantee
of a December vote about extending some of those tax
credits for Obamacare. So now do the Republicans have to
come around and say, Okay, you did what we wanted
and that's open the government, and now we'll sit down
and have a discussion with you about how about healthcare?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
What does that look like?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Well, I mean John Thune was smart on this. I
mean from the beginning he always said, hey, I'm not
going to guarantee that if we do a subsidy of
Obamacare subsidy vote that it's going to pass. All I'm
guaranteeing is that there will be a vote. So, I mean,
that's all he's got to do is bring it up
for a vote. And the Democrats really have to do
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the job of trying to convince enough Republicans to go
along with this to keep this subsidy going. Now, the
question is if what is for what time period are
they going to extend these subsidies because I don't see
this being a you know, permanent subsidy that you know,
like a lot of things in government, a temporary becomes permanent.
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But I don't see that happening with this. And also
I think that the House is going to be a tough,
tough saying to get this subsidy bill passed. I think
Republicans in the House are much more you know, we're
holding firm on this. This was a temporary subsidy, and
we just can't keep going on indefinitely with a subsidy
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for a program that they passed, that the Democrats pass
that are is mostly so affordable.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
So what could could we see something like a one year,
like a twelve month temporary extension and you know, maybe
let the economy turn around a little bit and get
some things kind of short up, and then it expires,
say at the end of twenty six.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, I would see this as being something that Republicans
would like to have off the table, you know, pat
and send it past the twenty twenty six midterms. Oh
so I think whatever, I think, whatever time period it is,
it'll take it past the midterm.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Bob Clegg, our guest GOP strategists, Bob, we haven't had
a chance to talk since election day locally in the
state of Ohio. Anything you know kind of catch your eye.
I mean here in central Ohio. There were a lot
of bonds and levees on the ballot, most of which passed.
Which is funny because you know, people are outraged in
the state of Ohio about their high cost of property tax,
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yet they the voters voted themselves a property tax increase
in a lot of cases.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Oh yeah, I mean, I'll lot more paths than I
thought they would. But then when you think about it,
you know, this was an off off year election, so
the voter bait that comes out is very very small.
So in a lot of these communities, Uh, the people
that wanted these levees paths did a very good job.
And I live up inn Olin Kanji School district. They
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you know, did a very good job of getting you know,
uh information mailed, and they did meetings around the district,
and they pushed in only Tangi with a bond issue,
so they pushed the whole you know, no new tax thing,
and and and that obviously worked for them because the passed. Uh.
But but but yeah, the electorate is so small that
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it really doesn't give you the total picture. And I
think a lot of these entities were smart to do
it in this kind of an off.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Off year nationally. Bob had the last the New York
City mayor's race. Mom, Donnie, I read that. I read
that at his victory party that he had a cash bar,
which I.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Thought that this guy was about free food.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I have a feeling that free food, free buses aren't
coming if he can't get a free beer from this
guy after he wins the mayor's race, No.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
And that tells you where he is really coming from.
And does they have free alcohol enough? I mean, this
guy is going to be He's going to be the
downfall of the Democrat Party and you're gonna see more
and more Democrats as once this guy takes office and
starts governing in New York City, you're gonna see more
and more Democrats trying to distance themselves away from him.
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And one of the things that happened which the media
didn't talk about on election night was in Long Island,
the Republicans did great again. They kept all their you
know offices, they kept all their county legislators. And that's
because they use Mamdani in New York City as as like,
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hey be careful, this is what's right next door to
And Republicans were in Long Island, we were able to take
advantage of that