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September 28, 2024 • 43 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Have you ever thought about suppressing your firearm? With wait
times now reduced to as little as forty eight hours.
You heard that right, processing times as little as forty
eight hours, it might be time to consider that suppressor.
Let's just say, if you believe in your right to
bear arms, the presidential election is super easy this year.
One candidate wants to protect your rights. In the other well,

(00:24):
she says it her words, not mine. She'll come into
your house even if you own that gun legally. All this,
much much more up next on on Target.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Okay, guys, welcome back.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
I'm going back to the middle of the intersection. It
was safer and controlled. Chuck, thanks for thanks for taking
the rains old last week. Oh yep, I didn't even
it has been such a crazy week.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
I hope I wasn't too funny.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
I Chuck got a complaint this week. I said he's
too funny. On the hand, maybe you should lighten up.
Funny looking guys, you know, really, thanks for taking over.
I didn't even get to just listen.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
To show back.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
That's how pathetic it was.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Everyone said it was good.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Yeah, got a guy. It says you're just as good
as Bob Connors.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Really right there, give me I will say, chuck. It
kind of makes me uneasy though, when when I'm not
here and they're like that was just a great show,
I'm like, Okay, maybe I know. I know you own
the joints, so I mean, yeah, it doesn't mean nothing. Guys,
welcome down target. We're broadcasting live. We're in the studio

(01:36):
of LPD Firearms Range and Training Facility that's at nine
to nine Bethel Road. We got a full house here today.
I got JC, we got big Little Chuck, we got
cool hand the we got the crowd here, all good
stuff and uh we got all have to get to today.
We are the owners of l EPD Farms and Range
and are active in law enforcement. But for one hour

(01:58):
on Saturdays, we put together a group of firemen experts
to discuss new products in the market, trainings, and oftentimes
political topics surrounding the Second Amendment. Our commitment though is
always and to bring you facts about history.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Help.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
There's in customers, safe, responsible ownership of firearms. Guys, time
is flying by. Had a great show last week. This
election is right around the corner.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
We we're thirty nine days.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
We're pretty.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Seven days, I think is that what we're telling me.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
I don't think it's that much.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Whatever it is, vote yes, right.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
And I mean we're preempted a couple of weeks because
of football coming up, so I feel like our time
is running out to get some of these messages out. Today, though,
we're going to take a little bit of a step
back and talk about something I've been wanting to talk
about for a long time. At twelve thirty, our range
manager is going to jump up here with us and
talk about suppressors. And mainly because guys, a year ago

(02:57):
at this time, if I were to tell you to
go out and purchase a suppressor, I would also say
that the wait time for getting that suppressor back was
close to a year. A year, unbelievably, and it kind
of is. It's kind of suspect to say the least,
the wait times now twenty four to forty eight hours.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
That's a little bit better.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
It's a little bit better.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
It makes you wonder what the heck was going on
or what the heck is happening, but I'll take it.
But what it's done for the suppressor market and some
of the A market, it has totally opened it up
because not only can you and buy it today. The
year people were you know, they say that they had
their suppressor in jail, but here I mean literally within

(03:43):
the week. Sometimes people are coming to get them back.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
You know, it would be helpful if you would go
out on the range and put a suppressor on any
what pick were, and fire it and do a video,
put it up on your page, because you know, I
think ninety nine percent of the people out there probably
think a suppressor sounds like a television show solidwood time. Yeah, right,
and that's not the case. Right, there's more noise than that.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Now.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
It suppresses, it doesn't silence, and TV is what it is.
And we're going to talk about that today. We're going
to talk about it actually in decibel levels and so forth.
And it's not what you think. Definitely some advantages and
definitely some some reason to consider one, but it's not
Hollywood silent like many on the left would much to think.
And that's why they don't. They don't like them.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Oh, it's you know, there's crime is going to be
committed with these and you don't know where the rounds
coming from.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Total bs.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
But isn't that basically what they're based.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
On, crimes committed with guns are using suppressors, aren't they right? Right?

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yes, yeah, I tell you before that though JC has
some good news we're gonna get to and we actually
have we have two guns. I want to talk about
finding a gun of the week. I know you guys
touched upon one last week, but I want to just
throw my two cents in because it is really that neat.
And then we also have one that came in that
is used, if you can, if you consider it used,

(05:02):
having had five round shot down it say very very
very unique one, not necessarily high price, but just a
unique one that I wanted to mention stuff. So that's
going to be coming up here soon. And that is
sponsored by a good friends over at US Law Shield,
who I just saw walk by the studio desk on
the way up there to the concil.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Carry class today.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Also I should mention too, US Laws Shield, good partner
of ours. They have an upcoming event October twenty third.
Right here self defense, what happens next? It gets you
thinking about if you're ever in a self defense scenario,
not necessarily just with the firearm, it could be in
any self defense scenario. What are the steps you should
be thinking about and planning long before that would ever happen.

(05:44):
That's going to be here October twenty third, and you
can stop by to find out how to register and
so forth. I think that's free as well. So how
can you be that? Okay, what else do we have here?
All other sponsors Black Wing Shooting Centers are good friends
up North Rivers. That's Culer you see, that's Engraving, an
LPD training facility, all who make the show possible each week.

(06:05):
I want to jump to I told you who's here,
got little Chuck big ed JC.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
I want to jump too.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
CPD stats because these are it's just.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
We're talking about Chicago or Columbus.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Columbus it is it continues to be much of the same,
and I just can't believe the disparity in some of me.
So check this out, Chuck, and see this is as
of last week. So these are even probably a little
bit higher right now. But as of last week, seventy
nine percent of the homicide victims seventy nine percent black

(06:39):
or Hispanic. That's horrible for those for that segment of
the population.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Horrible.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
And it's all those white people out there shooting at him,
is what it is.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Well, you would think that, Chuck, because that's what the
media says. That's what the media says. But no, actually
that the stats don't say that. The stats don't say that.
As of last week, ninety four percent, four percent of
the suspects black or Hispanic.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Chuck Gow what well they were white blacks or white Hispanics? No,
come on, man, seeing in says soo.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
That's incredible.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
That is an incredible different than Chicago.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
And I know, and these stats play out on the
Flonius assaults as well, very similar. And here this is
even more disturbing. Thirty percent of the homicide victims and
Columbus this year. Thirty percent. It's a pretty big number,
under twenty one.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
I actually would expect it to be bigger.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, I thought so too.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
I'm kind of surprised by only thirty percent.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Really, yeah, I am.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Forty percent of the suspects under twenty one. Forty percent.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
That does not surprise me. What do we do?

Speaker 1 (07:45):
I mean, we've identified the problem, there are are solutions,
and what do we do we keep given the failed
leaders the cities the key to the city. I don't
I mean, who is believing them anymore? When they stand
up there and feed the line of bs. It's incredible.
I mean that number is just that's staggering. That is

(08:06):
pathetic for a city like ours.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
Maybe they should focus their gun by program on under twenty.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah, right right exactly.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
For the one under twenty, we'll take your gun buy
that's interesting.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Now, under twenty one, you cannot possess a handgun legally.
What if a fourteen year old kid shows up at
the next gun buy back with a couple of nine
millimeters pistols? What are they going to do? Jail?

Speaker 1 (08:29):
They're actually chuck And this is a whole nother thing.
We should probably get one of the attorneys on who
know this inside and out. But legally, and I think
this to be a true statement. Legally, if you are
under twenty one, any age under twenty one, you can
turn a gun in and you are carrying open carry,
you can walk down the street. The law goes to

(08:52):
it doesn't go to the possession, It goes to how
it was acquired. So you can't buy it, you can't
give it to them. But if they have it walking
down the street and they're.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
Fifteen and they stole it, it's your.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Kids carry your open carry nine millimeters That just stole
from Uncle Fred's dresser drawer out here. That's crazy, absolutely great.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
You talk about hitting yourself in the head with the
hammer and wondering why it hurts.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Now, wait a minute, you want to tell me about
responsible common sense gun laws. Wouldn't it be responsible in
common since not to let a fourteen year old open carry?

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Now, like I said, I need to. I mean, that
would be worth talking to one of these guys who
are you know that a little bit better. But I
believe that to be the case, which is just a
little bit pathetic. Well, I mean if you think about
it out in the country, out of the farms and stuff,
I mean, that's where you could say, okay, I you know,
I see that the fourteen year old around the farm
or in the smaller towns and stuff might have it

(09:44):
used to it stuff.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
But that also.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Unfortunately plays out in London, you know, So something definitely
to check out. That's right. Speaking of numbers, JC, so
there was a stat that came out this week that
crime is down. Chuck, don't, don't look out the window, don't.
It doesn't matter what you're seeing. Crime is downing, crime down,
Gas is cheap and bread.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
They're like giving bread away.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Were you raising the middle class family?

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah, so was I Yes, did you have a nice
cut on? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (10:15):
Her middle class family had two PhDs, her mother and father.
They owned two homes, and she went to some of
the most expensive elementary schools, just like the typical middle
class family.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Middle class, and she has no problem coming into your
house to make sure you're housing your guns responsibly.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
But she's taking a holistic report.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Now, holistic in anybody comes through my door.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
With her cell of her opportunity economy.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
So this the uniform crime report came out and we
haven't had a chance to go through it in detail,
but I am happy to report that it looks to
be consistent with the past fifteen years that we've reported on.
I'm happy to report that the ars or let me
back up.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
Rights all rifles, yes.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
And not just they are not just the mean ones.
Any rifle.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Okay, if you look at how many homicides were were
done with rifles, yes, more people still died by hands
fisting feet last year.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
We need to we gotta do something about that shot. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah,
so here in the nobody will die.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
With hands, common sense foot legislation.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
That's I could get that on a banner for us
So uh and and and John, how many defensive handgun
uses do they read?

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Just you know, and this is so important.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
So many studies have been done trying to disprove this.
But between four thousand and five thousand times every single
day a citizen has used not necessarily fired, I mean,
but a citizen has has employed a firearm to defend
their life someone else's life. In some states you can
do it in property. You can't do that in Ohio.

(11:56):
And but that many times a day. So many in
the city had these published as defensive gun usages until
five senators Democratic senators said hey, he petitioned under administration
saying you know.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Hey, you can't put this out there.

Speaker 5 (12:12):
How are we going to get a gun legislation passed
when people realized that five thousand times a day people
are using firearms to defend their life from criminals.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah, so they took it down. So they took it down.

Speaker 5 (12:23):
You will not find defensive gun usage anymore. This studies
have been going on since the Clinton era. Clinton was
was shocked to find how many times, millions of times
a year citizens are using firearms to depend GC.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
This wasn't just some report that was funded by the
NRA and you're like, okay, come on, this was that
dependent independent And actually, if I remember correctly, the CDC
even did their own.

Speaker 5 (12:49):
Well they did after the first one came out, and
the guy was an anti guy who was just a
professor at a university. He really thought that this was
you know, we weren't going to find this. So they
even had someone from Oxford, England, and head of their
interviews and their surveys looked at and said, well, I
don't like what the findings say, but I can't fault
the methods and what the results were. So they said,

(13:11):
what do we do? And the recent one was that
English We were hoping to get him on there. Who
did another one? There've been five or six story some
have gone for years, like Clinton, he did it for
three years and he said, oh man, I don't like
what this says.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
So they did not publish the results.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
That's how and that was wasn't that a CDC one?

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Or yeah?

Speaker 4 (13:28):
Right?

Speaker 5 (13:28):
He had CDC investigator and they said, here's what the
results are, and we can't tell people that and that
is exactly what it is.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
So the truth is out there, as they say and
they don't want you to know. JC.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
As we go into break and stuff, I mean we should,
we should expect to start hearing the truth more and
more over the airwaves because I think during break you
said Soros just bought two hundred and fifty more stations.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
To over two hundred.

Speaker 5 (13:51):
George Sorows just found out that there's a company called,
I think an Audacity like aud with the anyway they
owned two hundred and team stations or something. Well, they
they final chapter eleven and for four hundred and fifteen
million dollars, he can buy out what they owe and
what they're in debt, and that will give him control
over over two one hundred and some radio stations real quickly. People,

(14:16):
They said they serve a twenty four percent of people
get their news through the TV, thirty one percent of
Americans get their news through audio. So that's what he's
going to do. Let's go do it now before they're
trying to rush it through special provision to try to
get the FCC to rush it through his.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Little sell MoMA. iHeart write the check.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Right, guys, listen to a quick Break when we get
back where you're going to talk about a little bit
of news, Get to a gun in the week, and
much so much more on Tiger Broadcasting Live from the
studios of LPD Finals Arrange. We'll be back right up
to the break.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Tell me, is this what they play when Kamala comes out?

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Now her lies aren't sweet?

Speaker 1 (14:58):
That is valid, that's.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
That's of.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Christine McVeigh. Didn't get nearly enough credit. No, everybody was
all over all over stevicks. Christine McVey did not get
nearly enough credit.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Awesome concert though, welcome back to on Target. I'm your
hysteric joined today in the LAPD studios. I got big ed,
I got a little check, I got JC JC. We're
going to go right to some news to round out
the bottom of thefouer.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
What that song just says it all? Okay.

Speaker 5 (15:24):
The one thing about Kamala where she has been consistent
on she says, my values have not changed. Whenever she
flipped up, my values have not changed. Let's go back
and look at some of her values. When she was
the district attorney for San Francisco, she sponsored not just support,
she sponsored a major that band San Francisco residents from buying, selling,

(15:49):
or possessing handguns, possessing no resident.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
It passed.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
It passed fifty eight percent voted for that citizens no
one could own a handgun. So of course immediately NRA
and the California Rifle and Pistol Association put it up.
It was so bad that even Gavin Newsom, who happened
to be in the mayor of Sampsis at that time,
did not even comment on it. And Feinstein said, this

(16:15):
can't fly. The courts have already ruled on it. But
she put it out there anyway, And the attorney represented
the Deanna Ray, just said, Kamala Harris has never met
a gun control law she didn't like. All right, that's
the first one. The second one is what we've already
talked about. We have the video. I think we're gonna
post advice she had. But yep, anyway, when she was

(16:37):
again the attorney general, I'm my primary, not Attorney general,
she was the district attorney.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Excuse me.

Speaker 5 (16:44):
That's when she had the audacity to come out and
this is the quote, this was actual quote.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
I haven't burbage here.

Speaker 5 (16:52):
Just because you legally possess a gun and the sanctity
of your locked home doesn't mean that we're not gonna
walk into the at home and check to see if
you're responsible in the safe way you conduct your affairs.
This was undercn SID, so that was there.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
That was after the band got shut down.

Speaker 5 (17:11):
And then the Heller case, which is one of the
best cases Heller and Bruin.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
When that came up, she actually filed a.

Speaker 5 (17:19):
Writ of of the amici grief to the Supreme Court,
where she argued that Washington, DC's total gun band did
not violate the Second Amendment. My values have not changed,
she screams, So this is what you can expect. So
guess what the election's coming. I was like, oh jeez, oh,
you know, there's like five hundred million, over five hundred

(17:41):
and ten million firearms out there. There's you know, millions
of owners. One third of the population of the United
States own ars, about one hundred and twenty million, according
to Dave Yost and his amicus brief the on the
Rhode Island case that's coming up. But no, you know,
she said, well, I'm not going to go for the
buyback that goes mandatory buyback is what she argued when

(18:02):
she was running for president. Uh, you know, a few
years ago, mandatory, but they said she softened it now
it's just gonna be a band.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
But think about we're not gonna pay you, the left winger,
We're gonna be not for me mentality. Think about this
now sponsored a bill to eliminate gun ownership in San
Francisco running for president. And what she say, I own
a gun. No, she doesn't, and if she does, she

(18:31):
doesn't know where it is. And if she did get
it in the first place, it was because her job
as a proscitor required it. And this is this is,
this is how they all think. This is the scary part.
Forget about your locked door.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
I mean that burbage.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
I'll take Fourth Amendment for five hundred Alex. Forget about
your locked door. We're coming into your house.

Speaker 5 (18:53):
If you're in the sanctity of your locked home, doesn't
mean that we're not gonna walk into that.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
Support this. You are insane And please don't ever talk
to me on the street.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
I mean, it's just it's unfathomable. Even if you're not
a gun onner, even if you're you don't like guns,
you have to look at this and say, Okay, this
is way overstepping of government bounds. This is this is
you can't go down that hat.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Look look at her, Look at her comrade Hillary this
past week. You know, Kamala wants to kill the fourth
Hillary wants to kill the first. She's in favor of
jail time if you say things that aren't government approved.
Now she thinks we should be looking at prosecuting people
who say things or post things on social media that
don't conform to the government's frame of mind.

Speaker 5 (19:34):
Take them off the air. Do this what we're seeing
right now.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
So when they say these are communists, when they say
these are and you say they're not communists, think about it. People,
your Bill of rights and they are just telling you
straight to your face, we don't give a damn.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
And these people are not caring. I mean, they don't
hide any longer their views and times they can say
it right.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
Out loud.

Speaker 5 (19:59):
The next they need her lies. Our border is secure,
why the persons have to do with guns? Well, they
just released and no one can believe that the that
the United States Immigration of Customs Enforcement Service ICE released
this yesterday. But now they have confirmed that the Biden
our borders are with a secure border has allowed more

(20:22):
than well actually more than here's the exact number. They have,
four hundred and twenty five thousand, four hundred and thirty
one convicted criminals that they have allowed in the United States,
and they have they have a protocol.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Where no one will be deported. Now, so now, who
are these criminals? These are criminals. What do you say convicted?

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Well, these are verified. There are over.

Speaker 5 (20:47):
Thirteen thousand, actually thirteen thousand and ninety nine are convicted murderers.
One guy from Peru's in prison. He'd killed twenty three people.
They're emptying their prisons. Who would want to keep these people?
Now in the United States, Roman around three free, with
another over thirteen thousand convicted, and another eighteen hundred have

(21:08):
appending homicide charges. And there's over fifteen thousand, eight hundred
convicted rapists and sexual assaulters have been released into the
United States, with another four thy two hundred and fifty
additional ones pending charges. They're in they have these they
knew about these, and.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
And they're walking around and they don't know where they are.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
You're rapist, and they are crazy feo about that. Donald
Trump was a racist for saying it. Donald Trump was
telling you what the FBI just reiterated in black and
white yesterday.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
And then there's two.

Speaker 5 (21:42):
Million that they said, yeah, we know that they crossed over,
but we never had a chance to talk to them.
They're just out there another two million, so we don't
know who they are, what they're doing. This is into
our country and there is no obligation that they are
not deporting any of these people. As a matter of fact,
they said, we want to take the legal agreement and
make them make them citizens.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
So guys, let's jump to the bottom of hour break
and we get back. We're gonna talk a little bit
more about news. We've got a gun to talk about.
And also, if you're in the area, stop I. We
have a table set up today for helping hands of
Central Ohio Food Pantry. They're doing a gun raffle. How
could you how could you not want that? They're right
here on the range. We're all talk about bacasting Lab
from the studios of LAPD Firearms Arrange. We'll be back

(22:21):
right after the break.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
There we go.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Ella always makes it work on target. We're Badcasting Lab
from the studios of LAPD Firearms Range and Training Facility
that's located at nine nine nine Triple nine Beth Road.
Down here is Derek. We got a full house day.
I got big ed, I got a little Chuck. I
got JC, our sales manager, Jake, just walked up. Before
we go any further, though, JC, I gotta give. I
know you guys talked about it last week, but I

(22:45):
just love this thing. I got to give another shot. Chuck,
get it out of your pocket.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Chuck, it's not in my pocket. I'm being open and honest.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
The Smith and Wesson bodyguard.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Jac, that is a real deal. I haven't talked to
you since you shot it last week.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
It was it was great.

Speaker 5 (23:00):
I went in and I thank jud Jake provided me
with about fifteen rounds and I went back and I
tried it both left handed.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
And right handed. Tried it my right handed one. But
I went to the eye doctor right.

Speaker 5 (23:09):
After that yesterday, and he said you should be using
your left eye from no one.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
So, but it shot wonderfully. The recoil was amazing.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
I was expecting a lot more because a gun is
very light unloaded without the magazine, it weighs nine weighs
eight point nine ounces with a magazine eleven point one ounce.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
That's and it's so small.

Speaker 5 (23:27):
It literally put it into palms your hands when people
out there can see, I mean literally it's just want
to be small.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Is it smaller than like a glock forty two.

Speaker 5 (23:35):
The beauty of it is it's redesigned. So it comes
with a ten round and a twelve round magazine, so
you have twelve plus yeah, thirteen rounds in something that's
absolutely tiny. And I thought being smaller it'd move around
a lot. They made the rear sight bigger. It's just
for close up obviously work, but it really worked well.
I really appreciated the textures that are on there. You

(23:58):
can actually hold it a lot more securely than some
of my other firearms and uh frontrations and it's just fits.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
It has a good rat and you know what I mean.
And it took me a second to pick up on it.
But the way they have that cut, the undercut is
undercut way up. It lets you put almost your full
hand on it.

Speaker 5 (24:17):
Right, which hands aren't small. You have the twelve rounder
in there, you're getting full.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Yeah. So there you go. Check them out.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
We do have them now, and we have them on
the range. Come up and try it one on the range,
one on Chuck's pocket. Uh. The other thing, guys, is it.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Feels really good. I mean, I know, I've got huge
monster hands. Okay, this feels really good, very comfortable, and
like you said, the grip is it's beautiful. I don't
feel like that's gonna slide nothing. I mean, it's very
I really like this.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
I really really that a little but a lot of
breach is not a blowback like a lot of those.
So it does cut down to some of the recoil there.
So that's why I put it in front of your
dem every.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Time, sweetheart. I'm sorry, I really like this.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Okay, I focused on you.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
There's chuckas she told her yeap.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
When you first met her, yea every day since. So guys.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
The other thing too, this we talk about some neat
guns that come in. Jake, No, I'm gonna keep your
mic off because you're gonna see something negative.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
Bag.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
But I know you don't like this next one. But
North American Arms has been around a long time. They
were kind of at the forefront of these small pocket
three eighty, the Guardians, the thirty two's. I mean, they
were what you carried back then because there really wasn't
much else and a little bit heavier you definitely know
you're carrying, you know, a chunk of a gun. They

(25:36):
came out there with the cartridge that was very unique,
and I think it came out in No. Four is
so five is somewhere around there. And they came out
with two different ones that were very unique. One was
called a thirty two North American Arms. One was called
twenty five North American Arms. And what we have here,
and this is a used gun nowt here at the store,
used with only five rounds to it, is a twenty five.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
North American Arms.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
And what that is it is a thirty two cartridge
neck down to a twenty five. You have one of
the cartridges and JC it moves.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
It moves, and the beauty and neck down cartridges, bottle
neck cartridges, you know, like the three fifty seven SAG
is a forty neck down to a three to fifty seven.
They took this thirty two and it's a bottleneck. But
because of it, they can put the more more power
in there.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
And with the weight of the bullet, it comes.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
Out of around twelve hundred feet per second out of
these small guns. But the beauty of it is it's
got twenty percent more energy than a thirty two, and
it's got much greater penetration, which is what you want
in a small caliber gun.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
So as far as the caliber gun, it really.

Speaker 5 (26:45):
I mean it smokes out there, twelvered fet per second
out of that with a twenty percent more energy. So
it's like you get you shoot four times and get
one free. So I mean, right now there is.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
A draw back, just a little bit of a step
down there that that increases the compression to the point
it's got that much velocity. That's amazing.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Yeah, it's I mean the one the one negative obviously
when you talk about some of these boutique guns is
the ammunition is a little bit tough. This comes to
a couple of boxes, one defensive box and one one
for the range. But they're not overly easy to find.
They're on the secondary market, but they're out there. So
I thought I just give a shout out kind of
a neat.

Speaker 5 (27:22):
A lot of people have defensive guns that, you know,
once you break them in a lot of people, hopefully
the rest of their life they still have the original
bock left and they have it right shot it for
defensive amo, so you know, but they make it and
you can get it, and it's really.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Really ironically JC the thirty two North American Arms three
eighty neck down to a thirty two. We don't have
the gun. We have the AMMO. There's still some amos
sitting back there from a while.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
And once again, it's more powerful than the three eighty
and has more penetration because of the smaller diameter and
faster velocity.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
So there you go.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Check everything you wanted to know.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Guys, we're gonna jump to a quick break because we
come back on either side. We're going to talk about
suppressors and why it might be time to con consider
purchasing that suppressor. Our sales manager, Jake has stumbled over
to the table, stumbled over.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
I shouldn't say that. I maybe maybe did.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yeah, I we wanna talk about little bit of suppressor
or range manager, salesman. Have you seen him on the range?

Speaker 4 (28:14):
You said, range manager?

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Well, I messed up, Dward.

Speaker 6 (28:17):
Just pointing that out.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Eric.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
All right, guys, we're gonna jump to a break. On
the other side, we'll talk about suppresors. Wrong talk it
broadcasting live from the studios of LAPD Farms.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Arrange will be back right after the break.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
This is a storm Joe Karaoke Day and LAPD.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
That's the vote of Chuck Douglass of the Power Hour, Chuck, Ye,
I tell you what, and I know I say this
every time. I don't just say this because you're sitting here.
I enjoy listening to it. I do when I when
I can, I enjoy listening to it. I know I
can call you in the time get the same old stuff.
But I enjoy listening.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
To it's I do. That's the horror of knowing me.
I'm like that all seriously, there's.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
No off button. I'll tell you. Let me tell you that. Guys, suppressors.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
We haven't talked about suppressors or silencers since twenty twenty one,
and partly because in twenty twenty one when you went
to go purchase one, it was almost a year waiting
for that to get out of suppressor jail or get
your paperwork back from the ATF and NFA. That has
all changed, and for some reason, miraculously earlier this year,

(29:17):
the wait times have now been cut. Sometimes and I
hate to set the expectation too high. We're seeing him
in twenty four hours, which is incredible, which means you
no longer have to purchase it, sit it in the
safe here for a year, forget that you bought it
and forget your body. You can oftentimes pick it up
the same week, considering if everything goes good with the

(29:39):
background check. But I mean, it's just it's really has
changed the whole industry.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
So I brought Jake.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
He is the sales manager here at LPD, does a
lot about suppressors, knows a lot more about them than myself,
and so we thought we'd bring you up here, Jake
and talking a little about suppressors like you do all
day long. Oh yeah, yes, So guys, when you talk
about pressers or silencers, ironically, when you think of a silencer,
you think of Hollywood silence. Do you think of something

(30:06):
that is there's no sound to it. It's like in
the movies, And they're probably better to better described as
a suppressor suppressing some of the sound. But yet the
ATF still references them as silencers.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
Because the first one that was ever made, Hiram Maximum
came over, you know, eighteen hundreds, and he just happened
to call it the silencer, and that's how it went
into the books way back then, and they ever changed.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
They had him in the eighteen hundreds.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Late eighteen hundred. Really, yeah, I think he's going.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
To put a chicken on the end of the barrel
or something.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
It's a muffler. That's how it started.

Speaker 6 (30:38):
Just the same as a muffler.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Yeah, same as a muffler.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
So and when you start to look, just to give
you a frame of reference of what it actually does,
it's not Hollywood silence here, just to give you a
frame of reference. A normal a twenty two long rifle
without a suppressor on is about one hundred and twenty decibels.
With a suppressor, you get it down to about one hundred,
and you might say, well, what's one hundred decibels? We

(31:02):
just a hundred decibels is a power saw. So we're
not talking something that's that's quilent quiet. One hundred decibels
is a may a rock concert, a car horn, It
is a baby crying. So you're not talking about something
that is totally silent. And when you start to look
at that, when you get into the rifles and some

(31:23):
of the handguns, some of it is right on the
edge of still need being hearing protection. So you might say, then,
why the heck do I even want one to be
exactly So, Jake, we went through We talk about it
every day and stuff. Knowing this. Knowing this isn't a

(31:43):
Hollywood super silent, you're never going to hear it around.
Talk about some of the reasons why would someone want
to buy a suppressor other than being cool with us, Well.

Speaker 7 (31:53):
Yeah, being cool is definitely one of the major concerns
with that. But I mean the biggest thing is that
it does suppress this. It does reduce the sound. So
even if it's not even if it's not quite hearing safe,
you are still protecting your hearing using it. If you
had to use it for like home defense or something
like that, and you didn't have the opportunity to put

(32:15):
on hearing protection.

Speaker 6 (32:17):
You would not do permanent damage to your hearing.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
And that's a valid point.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
And JC you talk about having hearing protection beside your
bed for years.

Speaker 5 (32:25):
Oh yeah, I really strongly advise people if they have
an electronic ear musk keeping beside your bed not can
you hear everything that's going on. We get our cat
walk across our kitchen from forty five feet away, but
it protects it in case you do have to shoot.
So I strongly recommend keeping a pair you know, next
to your bed for especially electronic one side.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
So that's a good reason behind it that it can
reduce the concussion of it.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
On some of the art.

Speaker 7 (32:51):
Yeah, so your signature or the other side of that
is your signature reduction, especially if you're like indoors. The
flash and concussion that is coming out of especially a
long gun being indoors is it'll knock your block off
if you if you've never shot without ear pro indoors,

(33:11):
you don't really know what I'm talking about, but it is.

Speaker 6 (33:13):
It is bad.

Speaker 7 (33:14):
And even even a small silencer can mitigate that significantly
and make it to where you still know what's going
on around you when you're doing your thing.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
So in Congress where there's an act trying to make
these so you don't have to go through as an
NFA item, I mean it's literally a piece of you know,
metal with baffles in it that that threads onto the gun.
And it's called the Hearing Protection Act and it was
just simply to protect hearing because that's what it does.
But it's the old movies from the fifties and jams bond.

Speaker 6 (33:44):
Unfortunately, not much prospect of that going.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Through, but especially in this environmental so two recoil mitigation,
I mean it does it can also reduce the recoil
a little bit.

Speaker 7 (33:56):
Yeah, Typically you're always going to find some recoil mitigation
when you put can on there. I mean, there's a
couple of reasons for that. Obviously, the function of the
can is to slow down the gases as they exit
the muzzle, so you're getting a less violent expulsion of the.

Speaker 6 (34:12):
Gases out of there.

Speaker 7 (34:13):
And then also mechanically you're adding weight to the end
of the gun, which is going to reduce the recoil
as well.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
So that's a great point though with the weight at
the end of the gun. A lot of these suppressors
are different weights, So why why would I want to
pick one up or why would I consider one this
heavier versus lighter? What am I gaining?

Speaker 7 (34:36):
So typically a heavy, heavier can is going to be
more durable, generally speaking, and that comes down to the
materials that they're using. Typically, with your like super lightweight cans,
they're going to be nowadays, they're gonna be titanium. With
some of the rim fire cans, you'll even get aluminum cans,
whereas more of your heavier weight ones standard weight. I

(34:59):
guess you'd say, like the surefire that he's got over there,
it is incannel, which is probably the best material for
making suppressors, but it is heavy, so it does add
quite a bit of weight on the end of your gun.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
And something that I was surprised is that regardless as
you start looking at these the different weights, the different manufacturers,
it really doesn't influence the decibel reduction. It's not like, Hey,
I'm going to spend the money and buy one for
nine hundred dollars because it's really going to reduce the sound.
They're all in the same ballpark. And when I asked
you about that, which you said was kind of ironic,

(35:33):
you said, I don't even look at that. That's not
why I'm not buying this to try to get to
a point where I'm not wearing hearing protecting your buying
for the signature and some of the other things. But
really there's no difference in the or very little.

Speaker 5 (35:45):
And the other thing that I was surprised, but I
had noticed that a lot of the military ones are
shooting longer distance. They actually said that it actually makes
the gun more accurate because a lot of the gases
that disturb it right as it leaves the barrel or
mitigated before it goes out, so they said, because I
was kind of surprised, going, look, I was a press
round there and they're shooting at this long range, and
they said, well, it makes it more accurate.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Are they all basically the same by law? I mean,
can they be altered to be more effective in quieting
a gun or well.

Speaker 7 (36:15):
There's not many that can be altered being an NFA item,
it's unless you are a manufacturer.

Speaker 6 (36:21):
It's pretty hard to alter a can.

Speaker 4 (36:24):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (36:24):
There are some cans that are modular cans that you
could actually if you bought two of them, you could
kind of stack them together. But really, in terms of
like sound, it's all about the volume, the internal volume
of the can.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
So so chucked kind of to that.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
I mean, in theory, if you really jake quickly if
I'm wrong, if you really wanted to make this super quiet,
it would have to be extremely.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Large and long.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
I mean, if if you're really trying to Is that
a fair statement.

Speaker 6 (36:55):
Depends on what you mean by extremely quiet.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (36:57):
The more volume that you have, the more room you
have for those gases.

Speaker 7 (37:01):
To expand and cool and slow before they exit the muzzle,
which is how the suppressor suppresses.

Speaker 6 (37:07):
So if you increase that you increase your decimal reduction.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
So as we got to watch time a little bit here,
But you're buying your suppressor, step A couple of the
things you look for user service ability, being able to
clean it.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
What do I want to look for in that?

Speaker 7 (37:24):
So rifle can like true, like rifle rated cans, you're
not gonna really worry about that.

Speaker 6 (37:29):
There's no real reason to ever clean them.

Speaker 7 (37:31):
Some of them, you can, most are not user serviceable
in terms of being able to remove baffles or anything
like that because of their high pressure, so it's kind
of blowing all the crud out of it. On your
pistol cans, and especially on rim fire cans, they are
very dirty and you're definitely going to want to clean

(37:53):
those every once in a while. Again, you know it's
not like super often or anything like that, but every
once in a while you are going to want to
do that.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
And there's some out there now for correct me if
I'm wrong, pistol calibers that are modular. So if you obviously,
the longer, the more volume in there is going to
help with the suppression and the signature. But some of
these you might be in a position where you don't
want it that long all the time, and so these
modular ones allow you to to really shrink it down
to something depending on yours.

Speaker 7 (38:24):
You've got that new dead Air Mohave nine there, and
that's a modular can. So if you take the end
cap off of that and the removable section, you can
place the end cap onto the base of the suppressor.

Speaker 6 (38:37):
And reasons you might want to do that.

Speaker 7 (38:39):
If you have a pistol, you might not want all
the weight hanging out on the end because you're not
quite as concerned about the sound.

Speaker 6 (38:45):
You just want to suppress it.

Speaker 7 (38:47):
Or if you had like a small pistol caliber carbing
or something like that and you want it for a
bag gun, you could shorten that can down.

Speaker 6 (38:54):
You might be able to fit it in the bag
with the can attached.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
But the shorter the lesser, the good, more noise noise,
but you are still affecting that signature. And and to
that point, Knight's Armament just came out with one, and
it is it's next to nothing, and it's really meant
for the signature, not much on the sounds of pressure.

Speaker 7 (39:16):
It's been around for a little while, but it's it
is a super tiny I don't have it back here
right now. But it is a super tiny, uh five
five six dedicated can. This particular one is five five
six dedicated can, and it is meant just for flashing
concussion reduction. It's meant for like CQB uh if you
had like had on like a duty rifle or something

(39:37):
like that.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
So attaching these they all have a little bit different
type of attachment, but they're starting to move towards something
that's a little bit more universal.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
Uh yeah.

Speaker 7 (39:48):
So there's a there's a growing kind of trend in
the industry towards what they call hub compatibility, which is
a standard base threading on the end of the can
to allow you to attach different hubub mounts, hubcompatible mounts,
to utilize different companies quick detached methods.

Speaker 6 (40:07):
So I'd say I had a.

Speaker 7 (40:09):
Not this particular Hucksworks can, but one of their new
Ventum cans is hub hub compatible. But all my guns
were set up for Surefire. I could get a B
and T makes a Surefire compatible hub. I could get that,
put that on the end of the Ventum, and then
I would be able to attach that onto my existing
rifles without having to change out all my muzzle devices,

(40:31):
which are about one hundred and fifty bucks apiece, so
not have to change those every time you get a
new can is pretty big.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
And that's a little bit of a game changer because
you prior to this you almost had to commit Okay,
I'm gonna stick with Surefire, and oh Hucksworth came out
with one. Well I'm kind of a Surefire guy here
because of the muzzle breaks.

Speaker 7 (40:48):
So this kind of kind of horses you into you know,
what we'd referred to as like an ecosystem for your can.
So you know, if you have one Surefire, it would
behoove you to get more Surefire stuff because it's all compatible.
Just like say you have an iPhone, you want to
get an Apple Watch, you know, because they're compatible, they

(41:08):
already work together.

Speaker 4 (41:10):
So what's the cost done? These range from so, I.

Speaker 6 (41:15):
Mean there's a huge range.

Speaker 7 (41:17):
Basically, figure anything that you would spend on a gun,
you can spend on a can, some of your your
room fire stuff, some of the like twenty two long
rifle dedicated stuff. Obviously it's going to be your cheapest,
you know, down to around two hundred dollars, but we've
got stuff here up to seventeen hundred dollars, right, just
depending on the functionality of its a little bit. You

(41:40):
pay a little bit for the name brand sometimes, but
just there's a whole lot of.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Back in the durability.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
I mean, it goes back to whether you're carrying this
for duty carrier or something that's gonna to really, you know,
be put through the paces and Jake, when you when
you're looking at this, when you have it on and everything,
ammunition at that point is a consideration. You can still
shoot regular ammunition to it. You're going to get the
most the most significant decrease and decibels and everything if

(42:06):
you go with subsonic ammunition.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (42:08):
Yeah, So if you're going for being hearing safe, you're
definitely gonna want to shoot subsonics. Some calibers just by
their nature are not capable of that. So like five
five six for instance, is it's an inherently supersonic cartridge,
and then it needs to be to do what it's
supposed to do. So anything that is supersonic, as it

(42:30):
breaks that sonic barrier, it's no longer hear and save
even no matter what can you have on it.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
Anything like that last thing Jake was, we're down to
about the last minute. The process for doing it has
become really easy. We have a kios here from Silencer Shop.
You can do the fingerprints, you can do the photos here,
all the people need to do. Go up there and
make a profile on silencer Shop.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Right.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Come in here, ask for any of any of your
guys at the desk and they can walk You can
welcome through the process.

Speaker 7 (42:57):
Yeah, we made a one stop shop and if you're
thinking about it, you come by. I've got a little
cheat sheet that I've made up. You can grab one
of those and get yourself started on the process, even
if you're just thinking about it.

Speaker 4 (43:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
Do we allow anyone to shoot these on our range? Absolutely?
So if I wanted to get one, could I come
in and say, Hey, I don't know what they're like?
Do we have anything that we don't have any I
don't have one.

Speaker 6 (43:18):
We have one blackout. We have a suppressed h mc
X Rattler LT.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
With on the range range hearing protection.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
God damn, thanks for spending the last hour with us. Jake,
thanks too much. Definitely come in asked for Jake or
any of the boys. They can certainly help you with that. Suppressor.
Choices checked out. It's always good to see it, good
to see a big D. Thanks JC. Next week we
are off because of O highest state where we will
be bactually there after stop by and see us.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Let's be careful.
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