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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, let's bring in Alex Stone from ABC News,
and Alex, first of all, Happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Well happy day. You know it's not Thanksgiving today, right.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I do, but but today I'm going to be off
the rest of the week. So yeah, I was just don't.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Get we don't get to talk tomorrow. It's be so sad.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Well, Chuck talk to me.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Better talk tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Chuck may book you tomorrow. There is there is that
Chuck is.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Chuck likes you, so I think, yeah, I mean that
could be something that happened. I did want to remind
everybody too, since we're going all the way into the
week through the end of the week, that Friday is
not just Black Friday. It's Brown Friday. Did you know this?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
It is the most toilet clogged of the year. I
Am not kidding you. It's a real thing.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
It's called Brown Friday, and after Thanksgiving the number one
day in America for clogged plumbing. And think about it,
all of the meals that are consumed, all of the
food and the calorie and that does make sense. It
is the most clogged plumbing day of the year. That's
why it is nicknamed Brown Friday. And here are the
(01:09):
most clogged Brown Friday cities.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Please don't let Columbus be on there. Please don't let
Columbus Guess what's that number one? Alex Just take a guess.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Los Angeles is at number one on.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
This list based on like per capita, just overall numbers.
It's overall numbers, you would say, Okay, New York and
LA being the two by far, the two biggest cities
in the country, that they're gonna have the most.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Well, I'm I'm not exactly sure as far as per capita.
I just think it's you know, most people in Los
Angeles they're just nasty.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I mean they're just full of you.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Know what, I thought, they just ate tofu and bean sprous.
I'm trying to figure out how they clogged California.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Oh no, not where Alex is from. No no, no,
not his Los Angeles, not my area.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
No.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Miami is next on this list. These, again, are the
most clogged Brown Friday A city. Nashville is then next,
then another all Sacramento is on this this list as well.
Then there's Baltimore, There's Las Vegas, Minneapolis, Providence, Rhode Island.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Are you kidding?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Me.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Really, that one's kind of out of nowhere.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Then San Francisco and San Diego are both on this list. Mysteriously,
there's no New York City, New York or Chicago.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
How is that even possible.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
If you were just going based on numbers, it seems
like it could be.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Doesn't make it.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
They say the most are in New York, and then
in LA and then in Chicago, and then like Dallas
and then San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
They are suspiciously absent, don't.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
They clog the sidewalks in San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
So there's nothing newche my friend, for sure.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
So there it is brown Friday. That's for something for
you to think about.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Wow, thank you for that.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Hopefully not while you're having Thanksgiving dinner. Don't think about that.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
But you don't want to use that a Thanksgiving dinner table. Hey,
did you guys know?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
That'll be great?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah, especially when your wife goes, who did you hear
that from? You're like, no, this guy in Columbus friend mine.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
She's like no, she knows who you are.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
She's like you can't talk to him anymore.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
That's just not stop it. He's a nasty, nasty man, Alex,
Please no more.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Of that.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
So tell me about what's up with the air traffic
controllers at a major hub.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
What kind of shenanigans is going on.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Yeah, so overall travel is looking pretty good today. Only
about seventy flights have been canceled today, which is not
good if you're on one of those seventy, but compared
to a lot of the big getaway days where we're like, okay,
fifteen hundred flights two thousand and three thousand. But there's
an interesting issue that has popped up at the big
United hub of Newark, New Jersey, which is kind of
that is their New York area hub that they have
(03:42):
made in Newark. They fly a little LaGuardia as well,
but not JFK, and they do everything out of Newark.
So a few weeks ago, to reduce the workload because
the airspace was so congested over New York and Newark
but the whole region, did they move the air traffic
controller for rivals and departures in at Newark to Philadelphia
(04:04):
and that they are going to work out of Philadelphia,
which is about a two hour drive away from Newark,
New Jersey. And the controllers don't like this, you know,
it'd be like saying, hey, guess what your job is
now in Chicago, but you're going to do the exact
same job, but now you don't live in the city
that you're not working in the city that you live in.
So they have made it clear that they don't like this.
(04:26):
A few weeks ago, computers inside the air traffic Control
center in Philly went down for forty seven seconds, and
now the controllers are claiming that they were traumatized by that,
and they're activating part of their contract that if they
have been traumatized, they can be off work until they
see a doctor and that they are no longer traumatized.
So sort of seems like a roundabout sick out that
(04:48):
they don't like their new job situation, but claiming trauma
from the computer outage.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
So that means almost.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Every day the FAA has had to significantly reduce traffic
into Newark because they don't have enough controllers who can
work because they're.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
All out on trauma leave. And the head of the
FAA saying, we will use traffic flow management initiatives to
deal with any staffing shortages on that particular day in
this airspace, and we expect to have some of those shortages.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
And they say that they're still working to staff up
in Philadelphia. Can take four years to fully higher and
train air traffic controllers, so it takes time. We just
got something from United saying that from November one through
twenty fifth, over three hundred and forty three thousand United
customers have been disrupted by this in Newark, more than
twenty eight thousand every day because of flight cancelations and delays.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
So they're working on it. But if you're flying.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Through Newark, if you're on United, there's a good chance
here you're going to go through Newark. You may want
to go through another hub like Chicago or Denver or Houston.
Then if you're going to New York, you may want
to avoid Newark and go into LaGuardia or JFK. United
doesn't fly to JFK, but they used to. They don't
any longer, but on a different airline to JFK did
not have to deal with this. But the controllers they're
(05:58):
out on trauma leave right now because that can outage.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Hey, is this a legitimate like could it be really
a legitimate thing when we're talking about forty seven seconds?
Because I know kind of the gist of this story
is like what like a sick out kind of the
type of thing. But is you know, you're talking about
forty seven seconds where you're blind right for all intents
and purposes, for forty that would be incredibly stressful, especially
(06:21):
when you know seconds count in those situations, especially when
we're talking about the type of traffic where these people are,
you know, air driving controlers.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
A busy area and anything else. Yeah, it may be
it's being described as more of a sick out over anger,
at least internally and among those who were involved in this.
But yeah, I'm sure that there are those who were
intimately involved in it that were pretty traumatized by that moment.
But and it's been staffing issues in general even before this.
(06:52):
But now you've got a bulk of controllers who are
saying that did that traumatize them? That that Yeah, I
mean there may be some personal beliefs that they were traumatized.
It is now creating this situation, and then the FAA
is saying they got to deal with it by limiting
traffic into Newark.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Very interesting.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Alex Stone, ABC News out of Los Angeles, and Alex
thank you very much once again, Happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Happy Thanksgiving, Happy Brown, what is it? Friday? Thursday?
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Brown Friday, Brown Friday, thanks man, see.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
You see you. That's a real thing, I guess. I'm
sure it is. I don't want that real thing in
my house. You remember my grandson's. It's pretty much every
day Brown Monday, Brown Tuesday. Yeah. Yeah,
All right, let's bring in Alex Stone from ABC News,
and Alex, first of all, Happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Well happy day. You know it's not Thanksgiving today, right.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I do, but but today I'm going to be off
the rest of the week. So yeah, I was just don't.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Get we don't get to talk tomorrow. It's be so sad.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Well, Chuck talk to me.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Better talk tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Chuck may book you tomorrow. There is there is that
Chuck is.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Chuck likes you, so I think, yeah, I mean that
could be something that happened. I did want to remind
everybody too, since we're going all the way into the
week through the end of the week, that Friday is
not just Black Friday. It's Brown Friday. Did you know this?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
It is the most toilet clogged of the year. I
Am not kidding you. It's a real thing.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
It's called Brown Friday, and after Thanksgiving the number one
day in America for clogged plumbing. And think about it,
all of the meals that are consumed, all of the
food and the calorie and that does make sense. It
is the most clogged plumbing day of the year. That's
why it is nicknamed Brown Friday. And here are the
(01:09):
most clogged Brown Friday cities.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Please don't let Columbus be on there. Please don't let
Columbus Guess what's that number one? Alex Just take a guess.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Los Angeles is at number one on.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
This list based on like per capita, just overall numbers.
It's overall numbers, you would say, Okay, New York and
LA being the two by far, the two biggest cities
in the country, that they're gonna have the most.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Well, I'm I'm not exactly sure as far as per capita.
I just think it's you know, most people in Los
Angeles they're just nasty.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I mean they're just full of you.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Know what, I thought, they just ate tofu and bean sprous.
I'm trying to figure out how they clogged California.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Oh no, not where Alex is from. No no, no,
not his Los Angeles, not my area.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
No.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Miami is next on this list. These, again, are the
most clogged Brown Friday A city. Nashville is then next,
then another all Sacramento is on this this list as well.
Then there's Baltimore, There's Las Vegas, Minneapolis, Providence, Rhode Island.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Are you kidding?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Me.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Really, that one's kind of out of nowhere.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Then San Francisco and San Diego are both on this list. Mysteriously,
there's no New York City, New York or Chicago.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
How is that even possible.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
If you were just going based on numbers, it seems
like it could be.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Doesn't make it.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
They say the most are in New York, and then
in LA and then in Chicago, and then like Dallas
and then San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
They are suspiciously absent, don't.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
They clog the sidewalks in San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
So there's nothing newche my friend, for sure.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
So there it is brown Friday. That's for something for
you to think about.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Wow, thank you for that.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Hopefully not while you're having Thanksgiving dinner. Don't think about that.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
But you don't want to use that a Thanksgiving dinner table. Hey,
did you guys know?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
That'll be great?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah, especially when your wife goes, who did you hear
that from? You're like, no, this guy in Columbus friend mine.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
She's like no, she knows who you are.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
She's like you can't talk to him anymore.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
That's just not stop it. He's a nasty, nasty man, Alex,
Please no more.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Of that.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
So tell me about what's up with the air traffic
controllers at a major hub.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
What kind of shenanigans is going on.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Yeah, so overall travel is looking pretty good today. Only
about seventy flights have been canceled today, which is not
good if you're on one of those seventy, but compared
to a lot of the big getaway days where we're like, okay,
fifteen hundred flights two thousand and three thousand. But there's
an interesting issue that has popped up at the big
United hub of Newark, New Jersey, which is kind of
that is their New York area hub that they have
(03:42):
made in Newark. They fly a little LaGuardia as well,
but not JFK, and they do everything out of Newark.
So a few weeks ago, to reduce the workload because
the airspace was so congested over New York and Newark
but the whole region, did they move the air traffic
controller for rivals and departures in at Newark to Philadelphia
(04:04):
and that they are going to work out of Philadelphia,
which is about a two hour drive away from Newark,
New Jersey. And the controllers don't like this, you know,
it'd be like saying, hey, guess what your job is
now in Chicago, but you're going to do the exact
same job, but now you don't live in the city
that you're not working in the city that you live in.
So they have made it clear that they don't like this.
(04:26):
A few weeks ago, computers inside the air traffic Control
center in Philly went down for forty seven seconds, and
now the controllers are claiming that they were traumatized by that,
and they're activating part of their contract that if they
have been traumatized, they can be off work until they
see a doctor and that they are no longer traumatized.
So sort of seems like a roundabout sick out that
(04:48):
they don't like their new job situation, but claiming trauma
from the computer outage.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
So that means almost.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Every day the FAA has had to significantly reduce traffic
into Newark because they don't have enough controllers who can
work because they're.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
All out on trauma leave. And the head of the
FAA saying, we will use traffic flow management initiatives to
deal with any staffing shortages on that particular day in
this airspace, and we expect to have some of those shortages.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
And they say that they're still working to staff up
in Philadelphia. Can take four years to fully higher and
train air traffic controllers, so it takes time. We just
got something from United saying that from November one through
twenty fifth, over three hundred and forty three thousand United
customers have been disrupted by this in Newark, more than
twenty eight thousand every day because of flight cancelations and delays.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
So they're working on it. But if you're flying.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Through Newark, if you're on United, there's a good chance
here you're going to go through Newark. You may want
to go through another hub like Chicago or Denver or Houston.
Then if you're going to New York, you may want
to avoid Newark and go into LaGuardia or JFK. United
doesn't fly to JFK, but they used to. They don't
any longer, but on a different airline to JFK did
not have to deal with this. But the controllers they're
(05:58):
out on trauma leave right now because that can outage.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Hey, is this a legitimate like could it be really
a legitimate thing when we're talking about forty seven seconds?
Because I know kind of the gist of this story
is like what like a sick out kind of the
type of thing. But is you know, you're talking about
forty seven seconds where you're blind right for all intents
and purposes, for forty that would be incredibly stressful, especially
(06:21):
when you know seconds count in those situations, especially when
we're talking about the type of traffic where these people are,
you know, air driving controlers.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
A busy area and anything else. Yeah, it may be
it's being described as more of a sick out over anger,
at least internally and among those who were involved in this.
But yeah, I'm sure that there are those who were
intimately involved in it that were pretty traumatized by that moment.
But and it's been staffing issues in general even before this.
(06:52):
But now you've got a bulk of controllers who are
saying that did that traumatize them? That that Yeah, I
mean there may be some personal beliefs that they were traumatized.
It is now creating this situation, and then the FAA
is saying they got to deal with it by limiting
traffic into Newark.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Very interesting.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Alex Stone, ABC News out of Los Angeles, and Alex
thank you very much once again, Happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Happy Thanksgiving, Happy Brown, what is it? Friday? Thursday?
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Brown Friday, Brown Friday, thanks man, see.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
You see you. That's a real thing, I guess. I'm
sure it is. I don't want that real thing in
my house. You remember my grandson's. It's pretty much every
day Brown Monday, Brown Tuesday. Yeah. Yeah,
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