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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I know that you are a well I think you
were once upon a time. Little House on the Prairie.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Yeah, I enjoyed it back in the day, not so
much these days.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Alex Stone, ABC News is joining us now. I know
that was one of your favorite shows too, of course, Yes, Halfpint.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Was my little prairie outfit and watch it.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
Sure I gotta know what a prairie outfit is.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yeah, no, you don't need to know. Just imagine.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Do you like to do you like to go frolicking
through the field flowers? Now and then, Alex, I do?
Speaker 4 (00:31):
I do?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Already did it once today?
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Doesn't affect your allergies or nothing?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Huh, as I'm wearing my.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Prairie You remember that episode of The Family Guy where
they had Quagmire doing that running through the field. That
was hilarious.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Did you have a shirt off? By Chase?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I can't remember if you had a shirt off or not.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Because I think Alex did?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I do? Right now?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Giggity giggity Peter, netflixopping a Little House on the Prairie teaser.
The second teaser for the Little House on the Prairie
reboot they dropped and it introduces us to the town
of Independence, and I know, see this is the reboot.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
That Chuck's just shaking his head, Alex, He's like, no,
not so much.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Laura Ingles Wilder knew what she was doing. She wrote
about it. It's over. Please come up with something new.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
That's just it.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Most for whatever reason, there is not a creative bone
in anybody's bodies. It seems like that is behind the stuff.
Alice Halsey, that's who's playing Laura Ingles in this. I
say that with a question mark.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I don't know who that is.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I never heard of either.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
They should have had Sidney Sweeney do.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
It or Okay, see I would watch that. I would
watch you.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Was in it running with her prairie outfit on whatever
she wants running. Yeah, yeah, absolutely did you see Housemaid
with her?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
And yes, I watched it on the airplane that.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
You know, I did too, Like my last flight to
Vegas coming back, I watched it on.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
The entertainment system on board and I was like, I've
never heard of this. And then when I got home
I told my wife and she's.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Like, yeah, that's been It's like a popular movie. Well, oh,
I thought I only I found it.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Well, I will tell you this, Alex we you, and
I watched the airplane version of that and the one
that's on uh what is that whatever the streaming service
or whatever that is showing it the unedited. Do yourself
a favor and find that version and rewatch it.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Because the airplane one, I was kind of like, there
were some scenes you know, when you don't want the
people around you, you don't want them to think that
you're watching porn that you're like, so this is one.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Where the scenes on the costume were a little stressed.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
I to say the LEAs.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
There were some pretty graphic scenes that didn't make the cut.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
That's on the.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Plane version, the airplane version. So do yourself a favor
because Sidney Sweeney and Amanda Seifert is you know, she's
uh the one that you know played.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
The other girl that time, the crazy one in the movie.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah, which turns out I don't want to give too
much away, but yeah, anyway, Uh, do yourself a favor
and hunt down Yeah, just the regular because I had
to finish watching it at home because I had to well,
I just said, oh, I got to know how this ends.
And my wife's like, oh, you got to see it,
And I said, God, love you honey.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
After I watch it, I was like, man, I can't believe.
My wife was like, you got to see that.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I didn't know Cindy Sweeney did movies like that.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Yeah, yeah, this is one. I mean, it actually works
in the movie.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
It doesn't feel like they wedged it in, like hey,
let's have a scene where she's scantily clad and it
goes with the story. It's not like it just feels
like the story's going in longer than all of a
sudden what why.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Was this in there? But I'm not mad, but why
you know, kind of a thing.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
But yeah, you know Amanda Seifer. I worked at a
rock stay and she she was on with us. She
called in because our producer, then his wife's sister worked
with her and Mama Mia, and he goes, do you
want a man? Because Amanda's like one of my Oh
I love Amanda Seipher. She's from Pennsylvania. I know all
this stuffy restraining order stuff and.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
So she seems very sweet.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Oh she's very girl next door or whatever. But man,
she tows my maido man, and so I I uh.
She Our producer was like, do you want me to
get I'm like, shut your mouth and he's like, I.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Can she called in or like was on the show
with us. She was so nice, man, she was so sweet.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I just it really just kind of it really just emboldened,
just you know the.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Way you okay back there, Yeah, I'm fine.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I love her. Chuck, Yeah, Chuck's just choking thinking about it.
I know.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I'm telling you that you know that yellow Paul and
you said it was on your car. It's making me miserable.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Man, it's really infiltrating you too. Yeah, it's bad.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I don't know how bum bees do it really.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Bad right now, I was saying, Alex, you know, last
night on the way home, I ran through Mumo car
wash and uh then today I come out this morning
it was like there was a covering of dust, only
it's pollen.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
That's all over what you call the car washers.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
That actually what's called That's what it's called.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Momo in mumou a piece of clothing too, like a movement, right,
different spells pronounce you say mom, you don't say you.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Don't say mama.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
You don't say foe either. Apparently it's fun yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
P h O foe. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
So we were talking about this last hour, Alex with
the regard to this, uh, this guy who walked out
in front of the Frontier Airlines jet a suicide. And
I was even kind of saying on the arm, like,
I don't I saw the report and this is the
first I'm seeing that they're ruling it a suicide, but
that people were injured on the plane on the flight,
(06:01):
and I was like, how is it that a human
did to where people? But then a guy called in
who used to be a pilot, and he said to us,
He's like, well, there are some people who even on
takeoff don't have their seat belt or what and so
as a result they, you know, they're this departing flight,
they're trying to get stopped where anybody who was not
belded in or the like ends up getting possibly injured
(06:25):
from that or that could have been what happened here.
I don't know if you know anything about that part
of it, but I know you've got like the report
of it.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Yeah, And I don't know if where the injuries came from,
but a lot of times they come from the evacuation
of going down the slide.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
People typically break.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Things going down those slides, you know, though they'll break
an arm or an ankle or something like that. So
a lot of times the injuries are there. That's why
a captain a lot of times will hesitate a bit,
you know, to make sure they don't have to use
the I mean, unless it's very clear to use the
emergency slides, because it can be more dangerous using the
emergency slides.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
If it's kind of on the line, you know somewhere
you're thinking, well, we probably don't need evacuate, but if
you do, people are gonna get hurt.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
I mean, think about grammons going down those slides and
babies and and everybody else, and you really shoot down
those some people end up getting hurt. So, yeah, you've
you've probably seen the surveillance video of the night vision
of the figure walking across kind of glowing in the
night vision to over the perimeter fence at the Denver Airport,
then walks onto the runway and then is hit by
that that frontier A three twenty neo. And this is
(07:26):
and I've worked I worked quite a while in Denver,
and so I know that the airport layout pretty well.
Runway seventeen left is extremely remote. It's about two miles
away from the main terminal. It is near farmland. It's
away from any populated areas, and so the where this
went down was surprising. This was a call from the
pilots after they hit the man from ATC.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Dot com, Oh Prutre forty three forty five, we're stopping
on the runway there.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
We just hit somebody.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
We have an edgifire.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
I mean, you can imagine what those pilots thought when
all of a sudden they saw somebody on the runway
out there in the middle of nowhere at eleven o'clock
at night, but with the engine on fire passengers and
went down the emergentegency slides.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
But today the Chief.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Medical Examiner in Denver announced that they've identified the man
who scaled the fence and walked onto the runway as
forty one year old Michael Mott. It has been ruled
a suicide, and Denver's police chief says they're trying to
figure out now more of what had been going on
in Mott's life, why why did he do this?
Speaker 6 (08:17):
As we speak, investigators are out continuing to contact family
and others who knew him to see if there are
additional information that we can learn about his motivations.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
But they did not find a car.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
There was no bike anywhere nearby, and this is not
an area one can easily get to. It is way
out in the middle of nowhere, miles from anything, and
it all happened very quickly. We got a rundown of
it today and the CEO of Denver Airport saying Phil Washington,
saying that the guy scaled the fence in seconds. He
went up and over it.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
It took approximately fifteen seconds for this person to jump
over the eight foot fence top with bob wire.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
And they did get an intrusion alarm, but he says
that they couldn't see Mott in that moment. They looked
at the where the intronsion alarm was going off and
they saw deer.
Speaker 7 (09:03):
Dens operator on duty reviewed the alarm and identified a
herd of deer just outside of the perimeter fence, very
near to where the incident occurred. They did not initially
see the trust passer.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
So they didn't know what was going on until it
he was actually on the runway and he says they're
going to look at their security protocols. They've got thirty
six miles a perimeter fence to the Denver Airport. The
Denver Airport is size wise, perimeter wise, gigantic, the biggest
in the US, second largest in the world behind one
in Saudi Arabia, And from time to time they do
get jumpers, and all airports do. And he says that
(09:41):
people can scale and get over even with the barbed
wire and how tall the fences are, they feel like
they're secure. In Denver, they've got multiple layers of security.
And he says, look, people are now saying, why aren't
we electrifying these fences or adding razor wire, and he says,
they don't want to.
Speaker 7 (09:54):
We don't want our fence to be deadly. And even
if the fence was tall, we believe it motivated individual
could find a way to penetrate it.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
But he says they're looking at what they might need
to do. Airports around the country are looking as well,
of you know, is this a problem everywhere? And can
people now get over eight foot fences with barbed wire
on top? It appears that they can, so do we
need to do more? But it appears that he was
motivated and in the end of his.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Suicide, how did they know?
Speaker 1 (10:21):
How are they ruling it a suicide if they don't
have node or anything like that.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Yeah, they say they're looking for a node, but they're
talking to family and based on what they're hearing from
them and based on the actions of what he did.
You know, he wasn't carrying a weapon, he didn't have
explosives on him anything like that, and he just walked
right in front of the airplane and then it was.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Over that way. Has there been a screening, drug screen
anything like that. Are we waiting on those results or
do they have they don't have.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
I don't know. Necessarily, there's enough left to figure that out.
They had to use DNA and fingerprints to figure out
who he was. He went into the engine and so
they had a little bit of trouble figuring out who
he was. And at this point I don't see anything
indicating that They don't think that he was drunk or high,
just based on how easily and how much ability he
(11:06):
had to get over the fence in fifteen seconds.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
That's what I'm wondering though, why that he didn't care
about the raze or why he didn't care about it.
You know, it didn't stop him, it didn't slow him down.
That's why I'm thinking was he on something? Because most stopped.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Yeah, I mean it was described to me that he
was very physically fit to be able to do that.
There is some indication there may be a not really
an encampment, but a homeless area nearby, even though it's
in the middle of nowhere. There's a creek right there
with some trees, and maybe some people have been living there,
may have come out of there. That would answer why
no car and no bike in the area. But they
don't know, They say they're still trying to figure all
(11:40):
that out.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
You know.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
The one spokesperson that you played there, Alex saying, you know,
as far as electricity, and you know, we don't want
to hurt anybody. I'm just thinking to myself, but you'd
rather risk a whole plane full of people versus you know,
one person's.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Yeah, and you're that's going to be the debate, right
of like what if somebody had more ill intent coming
over that sense and wanted to do more harm?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
The problem is, especially in place like Denver, you if
you electrify the fence, you're then electrifying animals, and you know,
they've got a lot of wildlife that tries to go
under the fence and around the fence. So I don't
know if there's a system where you don't electrocute the
animals that touch it, but the humans, or if it's
electrocute electrified higher up where a human would then hit
it if they went up. I don't know how any
of that would work, but it seems like they got
(12:25):
to look at it.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
How about we go pentagon and do different layer you know,
the fencing spread out, A couple of different layers would
would make sense, and then the final electric.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Side of those, then you would know it's a human
and not a deer that was able to get over.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
The first layer.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah, something something seems like it would be relatively simple
in this day and.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Age with all the technology, but thirty six miles everything's
gonna cost a lot of money.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
So yeah, well, I guess that's.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
As crazy as it sounds too. I'm running about the
disposition of the airplane. I mean, I I'd have trouble
flying on that airplane. Honestly, if I knew that that
was the plane where this happened, I don't think I'd
want to.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
In the future. To do it.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
They gotta do a lot of work to that airplane.
Has a pass destroyed the engine and damage the wing
and everything. So play sure one day it will be
put back into service once they fix it, but it's
not going to be for a while.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Should they have to be like a grim Reaper emblem
on the side or something before you get there.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
I don't think Frontier wants you to know what plane
that wants.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Probably not. They're gonna want to keep that secret.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, yeah, anyway, I like Stone.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
ABC News. Thanks for the latest on this. Appreciate it,
you got it.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Thanks to see you.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Man.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
That's like Chuck.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
If if somebody you're selling a house or somebody off themselves,
you don't want any of that to get out.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I know you don't, but if I'm ask I have
to tell you. Right, it's assumed, especially in older houses,
people have died, But if it's a murder or a
suicide and you are asked about that, you have to
disclose it if you know it, so
Speaker 4 (13:56):
You don't have to divulge unless you're asked about it.
I know that you are a well I think you
were once upon a time. Little House on the Prairie.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Yeah, I enjoyed it back in the day, not so
much these days.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Alex Stone, ABC News is joining us now. I know
that was one of your favorite shows too, of course, Yes, Halfpint.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Was my little prairie outfit and watch it.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
Sure I gotta know what a prairie outfit is.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yeah, no, you don't need to know. Just imagine.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Do you like to do you like to go frolicking
through the field flowers? Now and then, Alex, I do?
Speaker 4 (00:31):
I do?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Already did it once today?
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Doesn't affect your allergies or nothing?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Huh, as I'm wearing my.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Prairie You remember that episode of The Family Guy where
they had Quagmire doing that running through the field. That
was hilarious.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Did you have a shirt off? By Chase?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I can't remember if you had a shirt off or not.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Because I think Alex did?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I do? Right now?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Giggity giggity Peter, netflixopping a Little House on the Prairie teaser.
The second teaser for the Little House on the Prairie
reboot they dropped and it introduces us to the town
of Independence, and I know, see this is the reboot.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
That Chuck's just shaking his head, Alex, He's like, no,
not so much.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Laura Ingles Wilder knew what she was doing. She wrote
about it. It's over. Please come up with something new.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
That's just it.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Most for whatever reason, there is not a creative bone
in anybody's bodies. It seems like that is behind the stuff.
Alice Halsey, that's who's playing Laura Ingles in this. I
say that with a question mark.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I don't know who that is.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I never heard of either.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
They should have had Sidney Sweeney do.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
It or Okay, see I would watch that. I would
watch you.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Was in it running with her prairie outfit on whatever
she wants running. Yeah, yeah, absolutely did you see Housemaid
with her?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
And yes, I watched it on the airplane that.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
You know, I did too, Like my last flight to
Vegas coming back, I watched it on.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
The entertainment system on board and I was like, I've
never heard of this. And then when I got home
I told my wife and she's.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Like, yeah, that's been It's like a popular movie. Well, oh,
I thought I only I found it.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Well, I will tell you this, Alex we you, and
I watched the airplane version of that and the one
that's on uh what is that whatever the streaming service
or whatever that is showing it the unedited. Do yourself
a favor and find that version and rewatch it.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Because the airplane one, I was kind of like, there
were some scenes you know, when you don't want the
people around you, you don't want them to think that
you're watching porn that you're like, so this is one.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Where the scenes on the costume were a little stressed.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
I to say the LEAs.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
There were some pretty graphic scenes that didn't make the cut.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
That's on the.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Plane version, the airplane version. So do yourself a favor
because Sidney Sweeney and Amanda Seifert is you know, she's
uh the one that you know played.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
The other girl that time, the crazy one in the movie.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah, which turns out I don't want to give too
much away, but yeah, anyway, Uh, do yourself a favor
and hunt down Yeah, just the regular because I had
to finish watching it at home because I had to well,
I just said, oh, I got to know how this ends.
And my wife's like, oh, you got to see it,
And I said, God, love you honey.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
After I watch it, I was like, man, I can't believe.
My wife was like, you got to see that.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I didn't know Cindy Sweeney did movies like that.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Yeah, yeah, this is one. I mean, it actually works
in the movie.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
It doesn't feel like they wedged it in, like hey,
let's have a scene where she's scantily clad and it
goes with the story. It's not like it just feels
like the story's going in longer than all of a
sudden what why.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Was this in there? But I'm not mad, but why
you know, kind of a thing.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
But yeah, you know Amanda Seifer. I worked at a
rock stay and she she was on with us. She
called in because our producer, then his wife's sister worked
with her and Mama Mia, and he goes, do you
want a man? Because Amanda's like one of my Oh
I love Amanda Seipher. She's from Pennsylvania. I know all
this stuffy restraining order stuff and.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
So she seems very sweet.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Oh she's very girl next door or whatever. But man,
she tows my maido man, and so I I uh.
She Our producer was like, do you want me to
get I'm like, shut your mouth and he's like, I.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Can she called in or like was on the show
with us. She was so nice, man, she was so sweet.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I just it really just kind of it really just emboldened,
just you know the.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Way you okay back there, Yeah, I'm fine.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I love her. Chuck, Yeah, Chuck's just choking thinking about it.
I know.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I'm telling you that you know that yellow Paul and
you said it was on your car. It's making me miserable.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Man, it's really infiltrating you too. Yeah, it's bad.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I don't know how bum bees do it really.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Bad right now, I was saying, Alex, you know, last
night on the way home, I ran through Mumo car
wash and uh then today I come out this morning
it was like there was a covering of dust, only
it's pollen.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
That's all over what you call the car washers.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
That actually what's called That's what it's called.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Momo in mumou a piece of clothing too, like a movement, right,
different spells pronounce you say mom, you don't say you.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Don't say mama.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
You don't say foe either. Apparently it's fun yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
P h O foe. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
So we were talking about this last hour, Alex with
the regard to this, uh, this guy who walked out
in front of the Frontier Airlines jet a suicide. And
I was even kind of saying on the arm, like,
I don't I saw the report and this is the
first I'm seeing that they're ruling it a suicide, but
that people were injured on the plane on the flight,
(06:01):
and I was like, how is it that a human
did to where people? But then a guy called in
who used to be a pilot, and he said to us,
He's like, well, there are some people who even on
takeoff don't have their seat belt or what and so
as a result they, you know, they're this departing flight,
they're trying to get stopped where anybody who was not
belded in or the like ends up getting possibly injured
(06:25):
from that or that could have been what happened here.
I don't know if you know anything about that part
of it, but I know you've got like the report
of it.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Yeah, And I don't know if where the injuries came from,
but a lot of times they come from the evacuation
of going down the slide.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
People typically break.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Things going down those slides, you know, though they'll break
an arm or an ankle or something like that. So
a lot of times the injuries are there. That's why
a captain a lot of times will hesitate a bit,
you know, to make sure they don't have to use
the I mean, unless it's very clear to use the
emergency slides, because it can be more dangerous using the
emergency slides.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
If it's kind of on the line, you know somewhere
you're thinking, well, we probably don't need evacuate, but if
you do, people are gonna get hurt.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
I mean, think about grammons going down those slides and
babies and and everybody else, and you really shoot down
those some people end up getting hurt. So, yeah, you've
you've probably seen the surveillance video of the night vision
of the figure walking across kind of glowing in the
night vision to over the perimeter fence at the Denver Airport,
then walks onto the runway and then is hit by
that that frontier A three twenty neo. And this is
(07:26):
and I've worked I worked quite a while in Denver,
and so I know that the airport layout pretty well.
Runway seventeen left is extremely remote. It's about two miles
away from the main terminal. It is near farmland. It's
away from any populated areas, and so the where this
went down was surprising. This was a call from the
pilots after they hit the man from ATC.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Dot com, Oh Prutre forty three forty five, we're stopping
on the runway there.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
We just hit somebody.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
We have an edgifire.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
I mean, you can imagine what those pilots thought when
all of a sudden they saw somebody on the runway
out there in the middle of nowhere at eleven o'clock
at night, but with the engine on fire passengers and
went down the emergentegency slides.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
But today the Chief.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Medical Examiner in Denver announced that they've identified the man
who scaled the fence and walked onto the runway as
forty one year old Michael Mott. It has been ruled
a suicide, and Denver's police chief says they're trying to
figure out now more of what had been going on
in Mott's life, why why did he do this?
Speaker 6 (08:17):
As we speak, investigators are out continuing to contact family
and others who knew him to see if there are
additional information that we can learn about his motivations.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
But they did not find a car.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
There was no bike anywhere nearby, and this is not
an area one can easily get to. It is way
out in the middle of nowhere, miles from anything, and
it all happened very quickly. We got a rundown of
it today and the CEO of Denver Airport saying Phil Washington,
saying that the guy scaled the fence in seconds. He
went up and over it.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
It took approximately fifteen seconds for this person to jump
over the eight foot fence top with bob wire.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
And they did get an intrusion alarm, but he says
that they couldn't see Mott in that moment. They looked
at the where the intronsion alarm was going off and
they saw deer.
Speaker 7 (09:03):
Dens operator on duty reviewed the alarm and identified a
herd of deer just outside of the perimeter fence, very
near to where the incident occurred. They did not initially
see the trust passer.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
So they didn't know what was going on until it
he was actually on the runway and he says they're
going to look at their security protocols. They've got thirty
six miles a perimeter fence to the Denver Airport. The
Denver Airport is size wise, perimeter wise, gigantic, the biggest
in the US, second largest in the world behind one
in Saudi Arabia, And from time to time they do
get jumpers, and all airports do. And he says that
(09:41):
people can scale and get over even with the barbed
wire and how tall the fences are, they feel like
they're secure. In Denver, they've got multiple layers of security.
And he says, look, people are now saying, why aren't
we electrifying these fences or adding razor wire, and he says,
they don't want to.
Speaker 7 (09:54):
We don't want our fence to be deadly. And even
if the fence was tall, we believe it motivated individual
could find a way to penetrate it.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
But he says they're looking at what they might need
to do. Airports around the country are looking as well,
of you know, is this a problem everywhere? And can
people now get over eight foot fences with barbed wire
on top? It appears that they can, so do we
need to do more? But it appears that he was
motivated and in the end of his.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Suicide, how did they know?
Speaker 1 (10:21):
How are they ruling it a suicide if they don't
have node or anything like that.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Yeah, they say they're looking for a node, but they're
talking to family and based on what they're hearing from
them and based on the actions of what he did.
You know, he wasn't carrying a weapon, he didn't have
explosives on him anything like that, and he just walked
right in front of the airplane and then it was.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Over that way. Has there been a screening, drug screen
anything like that. Are we waiting on those results or
do they have they don't have.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
I don't know. Necessarily, there's enough left to figure that out.
They had to use DNA and fingerprints to figure out
who he was. He went into the engine and so
they had a little bit of trouble figuring out who
he was. And at this point I don't see anything
indicating that They don't think that he was drunk or high,
just based on how easily and how much ability he
(11:06):
had to get over the fence in fifteen seconds.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
That's what I'm wondering though, why that he didn't care
about the raze or why he didn't care about it.
You know, it didn't stop him, it didn't slow him down.
That's why I'm thinking was he on something? Because most stopped.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Yeah, I mean it was described to me that he
was very physically fit to be able to do that.
There is some indication there may be a not really
an encampment, but a homeless area nearby, even though it's
in the middle of nowhere. There's a creek right there
with some trees, and maybe some people have been living there,
may have come out of there. That would answer why
no car and no bike in the area. But they
don't know, They say they're still trying to figure all
(11:40):
that out.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
You know.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
The one spokesperson that you played there, Alex saying, you know,
as far as electricity, and you know, we don't want
to hurt anybody. I'm just thinking to myself, but you'd
rather risk a whole plane full of people versus you know,
one person's.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Yeah, and you're that's going to be the debate, right
of like what if somebody had more ill intent coming
over that sense and wanted to do more harm?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
The problem is, especially in place like Denver, you if
you electrify the fence, you're then electrifying animals, and you know,
they've got a lot of wildlife that tries to go
under the fence and around the fence. So I don't
know if there's a system where you don't electrocute the
animals that touch it, but the humans, or if it's
electrocute electrified higher up where a human would then hit
it if they went up. I don't know how any
of that would work, but it seems like they got
(12:25):
to look at it.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
How about we go pentagon and do different layer you know,
the fencing spread out, A couple of different layers would
would make sense, and then the final electric.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Side of those, then you would know it's a human
and not a deer that was able to get over.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
The first layer.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah, something something seems like it would be relatively simple
in this day and.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Age with all the technology, but thirty six miles everything's
gonna cost a lot of money.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
So yeah, well, I guess that's.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
As crazy as it sounds too. I'm running about the
disposition of the airplane. I mean, I I'd have trouble
flying on that airplane. Honestly, if I knew that that
was the plane where this happened, I don't think I'd
want to.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
In the future. To do it.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
They gotta do a lot of work to that airplane.
Has a pass destroyed the engine and damage the wing
and everything. So play sure one day it will be
put back into service once they fix it, but it's
not going to be for a while.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Should they have to be like a grim Reaper emblem
on the side or something before you get there.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
I don't think Frontier wants you to know what plane
that wants.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Probably not. They're gonna want to keep that secret.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, yeah, anyway, I like Stone.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
ABC News. Thanks for the latest on this. Appreciate it,
you got it.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Thanks to see you.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Man.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
That's like Chuck.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
If if somebody you're selling a house or somebody off themselves,
you don't want any of that to get out.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I know you don't, but if I'm ask I have
to tell you. Right, it's assumed, especially in older houses,
people have died, But if it's a murder or a
suicide and you are asked about that, you have to
disclose it if you know it, so
Speaker 4 (13:56):
You don't have to divulge unless you're asked about it.
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