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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now this is a competition, then I think I might
do good at uh oh, it was a power napping competition.
I'm listening in South Korea and Alex Stone ABC News
is joining us now, and Alex, I don't know if
there's something you think you you know, you see these
goofball competitions that go on around the world. I saw
(00:20):
this and thought, yeah, I might have a chance.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I used to be better at power napping when I
was younger. Can you still power nap?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I can nap? I don't is it power? Like?
Speaker 4 (00:30):
What's no? I sleep right, I don't nap anymore. If
I go to sleep, if there's not at least an
hour involved, never mind, I'll just keep rolling.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Okay, So okay, power napping or like think on a
Saturday afternoon you're like, I'm just gonna.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Lay down here. You kind of lay there and you go, eh,
I can't do it. Yeah, yeah, Well, and I'm not
like it when I was twenty and you could just
lay down and be like boom out right.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Well, if you think if you lay down and you
say to yourself, I can't do it, I don't get
that far in the conversation. If I lay down and
it's going to happen. It happens whether I don't talk
myself out of it or I can't do it.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
When I was like sixteen years old, got my job
working in customer service over the Columbus Dispatch. We used
to get up and we were in there at five
am answering phones, and it was really cool because all
the employees took care of each other. You go down
to the basement to the break room and we'd sit
in the chairs and take literally like nine minute naps,
allowing time to get back down back upstairs from our
fifteen minute break, and the next group will come down
(01:28):
and make sure you woke up and got back up.
It was so cool, but it really refreshed you those
nine minutes at sixteen years old at work. Baby.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Well, around one hundred and seventy people participated in this one.
They measured how well people could sleep through distractions. They
got some shut eye in a public park. They were
interrupted with tickling and mosquito sounds.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
The winner was an eighty year old man, and I.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Gotta wake up when you're getting tickled.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I don't understand it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
The winner was eighty years old and thirty seven year
old office worker came in second, and so yeah, they
say South Korea is the most overworked and sleep deprived nation.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
So Mosquitos sounds I'm intrigued by that. Yeah, that little yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Get like the shivers just hearing that.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, So yeah, Alex reporting on. We all know the
gas prices are. It's ridiculous here in Ohio and I
can't imagine in California what you guys are.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I filled up at Costco today for about six bucks
a gallon and that's at Costco, so it's like seven
seven thirty for regular unleaded in other places. But yeah,
you guys have seen the biggest jump in the last
week too, that the problems are going up. There's no
indication they're going to be coming down anytime soon. The
longer the straight of her moves is impacted and not
fully opened, and know that it's going to be opened
(02:47):
for a while. The average price has gone up thirty
eight cents in the past week. Today it's at four
forty two a gallon the overall average nationwide, but Ohio, Michigan, Indiana,
and Illinois the biggest jumps in the past week, and
it comes there are beginning to be worries about supply now,
and then the last tanker to arrive from the Gulf
to refineries on the West coast it pulled in over
(03:07):
the weekend and there's none more coming. And those two
hundred barrels of oil are relied upon for coming in
and expected to be coming in, and now they're not
going to Patrick dehan over gas buddy centers.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
If the straight of horn Moose continues to be blocked
or significantly impeded, we could see the national average pushing
closer to four seventy five or even that five dollars
gallon Mark Bi Memorial Day.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Now, the President and the Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, they've said, well,
gas prices will plumb it once the strait is figured out,
and economists say, well, they will go down, but it's
going to be a while before they go down.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Quite a bit.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
That oil may plummet, but gas prices don't go down
that quickly. That they're likely going to be elevated for
weeks to months to get to pre war levels. Even
if the strait completely opened up today, it would be
in the next year before they would get back down
to those levels. Dan Swunk over KPMG Chief Economists.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Well, what we usually see is when oil prices go
up and gas prices at the pump go up, they
go up like a rocket and they fall like a feather.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
And the inventory issue is now in Europe and beginning
here in the US, of having enough that to just
domestically be able to make it and get it from
other areas. West Coast is also going to get it
now from South Korea and elsewhere without that last ship
came in from a rock, but no more can come
through the straight as of yet. Karen Young at Columbia
University Center on Global Energy Policy, she says that's going
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to be the big concern.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Now we're dipping into inventories and so there's a realization
that there are you know, there are shortages, particularly of
refined products.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, so it looks like it's going to be a while.
People are definitely feeling it. You know, we're back to
one hundred dollars of fillip for regular car in some
areas of the country. And then jet fuel prices, you know,
they're skyrocketing as well. Spirit blame those they had a
lot of problems, but the ultimate demise that the nail
and the coffin being the high field prices, and an
airline say that gone are going to be the times
(04:53):
of cheap air travel, that they're going to have to
charge more and it's going to get more expensive, so
you never feel it, you know what.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
Too.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
The thing that's really most troubling for me about all
of this is well the obvious things that you kind
of reported on there, but with regard to the airlines,
you know, if if everything starts plummeting again, guess what
won't go back down?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
You know what I mean? Like as far as the
cost of a take, they're there.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
You know, they try to talk about well, but then
they're not even saying right now the word transitory. But
that's the evil word that a lot of people go, yeah,
shove that.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
What they'll do is what they'll do is those those
sweet thirty nine dollars airfare things. They'll keep the regular
prices high, but then they'll increase those thirty nine dollars
offers to get butts in seats again and make people
travel because it's so blasted cheap. It's for you.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I hope you're right, but yeah, man, we'll see you
know after spirit is there going to be another one,
and that's where United CEO weeks ago said that those
that that came into this not doing very well. Without
a lot of reserves, they can't make up for the
billions more they're going to spend on fuel. So there
could be others as well that the ultralocs carry your
model of Spirit Frontier allegiant. You know that there are
(06:05):
a few of them out there that did that. They
don't They don't have a lot of wiggle room and
a lot of cash reserves to be able to make
up when when all of a sudden the oil prices
go really high.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
So so we got to see.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah, I guess we could get a it's too late now,
but they should have started a GoFundMe for Spirit.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Can you imagine people, Yeah, please donate money to keep
them flying. Well, everybody, I would want to be on
that airline if it was being funded by GoFundMe.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, probably not you probably. That's a good point, yeah,
the U and I.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
The other thing, when you have the seatback in front
of you, that's like just literally few at six eight
inches twelve from your face when you're on there. I'm sorry, man,
that's a recipe because I flew once on Spirit.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
And I was like, oh, my lord, didn't they say
they were pre reclined where they they wouldn't recline, but
they pre reclined?
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Was bad translation, this is all you get.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
It was really bad.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I had no leg room and I'm only five seven,
so I'm like, I am not tall by any stretch
of the imagination.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I was like, jeez, man, this is I.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Was like, oh, get me back on Southwest Alex Stone,
ABC News, Alex, thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
You see you man, we're talking. We're talking about Spirit.
And as you're doing that, I swear the computers listen.
I get a pop up here. Did you see this Newark,
New Jersey plane. It's coming in for a landing. Newark
has had all kinds of problems lately with traffic controining
it hit.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
ALU saw that.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Oh my gosh, I saw that. That's terrifying.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
So here's the other part of this.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Remember we had everybody calling in last week trying to
tell us, well, the problem with the guns man Indiana
went offline. Yeah, well guess what is Indiana still offline?
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I don't know if the refinery's offline. The state probably
is right, man.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
But my point, My point is you you have everybody
who tries to tell you exactly it has nothing to
do with the Strait, but yet it's being reported that
it is having to do with the Strait, and then
everyone's going, that's not affecting It's only affecting a few states,
us being one of them.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Alex did point out that we are one of the.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
States that has spiked farther than anyone else, but he
just gave you a lot. It does Indiana affect California
because it does not, and so as a result, he
just reported it was six bucks he just paid.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
We haven't built any new refineries in how long you know,
I've been singing this song for a decade. It's been
about forty five years. There should be refineries, you know.
I said this back when we were worried before Trump
got in office. People are illegal immigrants in this contriga.
You want to get illegal image back to their own
com Build refineries in the golf on the Mexican side
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of the golf. Create good jobs down there, refinery jobs.
They people will go back home. They don't have to
come here in order to pursue a better life. They
can be in Mexico and pursue a better life because
the refineries are right there. There's no EPA to consider.
You can get the oil out of the ground, and
we wouldn't have to worry about this stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
That's interesting. Wow, that's actually really good.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Plus, we know we've got like three hundred years plus
of natural gas in the Gulf that they just can't
get to, but they've already found it, so you know
that's where the energy is. Let's go do something with
it instead of getting held hostage and paying five bucks
a gallon.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, I don't. I just there's a lot of math
that ain't mathing for me.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
And look, I'm not just gonna fall in line and
be like, yep, it's completely fine that we're doing.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I hate this. This sucks. There's no question that it sucks.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
As far as the high gas price is right now,
I told you on the way here, I saw four
eighty eight and I was hopeful. I'm like, oh, okay,
is it gonna start going back down now? But then
there were so many other stations I passed that We're
still at four ninety nine right now, so we're higher
than the average price, which is did you see that
it's four dollars and forty three cents. That's the national average.
(10:08):
Ours may be up.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Everything I saw today was four ninety nine.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, I was going to say there, we may be
up because of that refinery. I guess still that people
were sighting in Indiana. But that's the thing. It's that's
not affecting the entire United States. So what gives with
the rest of the United States.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
At this point? I I I don't know, is it is.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
It bad or is it really really selfish to say
I wish the day would just get on with it.
What it feels like he's and he, being the president
is kind of kicking the can or just stalling here.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
And I, I don't know. I'm once I'm one of
those people.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
It's like, uh, he's got a lot more information than
I did, so I've got to try to I got
to try to temper this.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
But at the same time, is it it's like like.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I hate to think of myself as somebody's like, hurry
up and get the gas prices down, bomb those people.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
I think he is trying that. I think he's trying
to keep everybody's spirits up that he can and keep
being hopeful we're talking with him there they we seem
to be on our way to something. They seem to
want to deal blah blah blah. Just to keep the
negatives as low as he possibly can. Plus, he's walking
the line here. Could we just go in and flatten
that country? Yes, and then you got the Germans going.
(11:29):
America's getting embarrassed by the Iranians. No, you German. I
mean maybe your folks are used to wiping out everything
in their path. We're trying not to do that. So
sit down, shut up, and have some strudel. Donald Trump
is trying to get this done, get the oil situation
worked out, get rid of the worries about terrorism and
nuclear armaments in the hands of crazed people, and kill
(11:53):
as few people as possible is what it comes down to.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
It's called diplomacy.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Yeah, we could mow down the country, but then he'd
be the hateful president and he'd be the worst thing
ever and all that. Just my gosh, you're not in it.
Just please, let's trust the people that are to do
it right.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah, And it's that you're right. It's the people on
the sidelines that are goading it. I mean, they're like
like making fun because that's what they would really like
to see happen. I believe that we would do something
like that, And I don't know, man, there's.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
A lot of them out there that we love for
nothing more than to see us fall on our face
or for you know, Iraq to join in or something
and see us turn this into a big deal that
it shouldn't be, just so they can say, see, that's
what Trump does. That's more important to them than the
health and safety of this country and the people of
this country.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Well, the surrounding Middle East ought to be real thankful
to us right about now in this situation, because they're
a lot closer to Iran than we are.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Don't forget they fired missiles into Saudi Arabia, u A, Syria.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
And they're all sitting on their hands.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Yeah, yeah, you're doing nothing, the British, you're doing nothing.
I don't know why King Charles even came over here.
Just you didn't understand that either. Yeah, you're buying oil
from the blasted Russians, so they've got money to destroy Ukraine.
When's the last time you heard about Ukraine? You didn't
because we're too busy graping about Iran right.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Now, Hey, Ed, welcome to the show.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
The reason why they're not building new refineries it takes
fifteen to twenty years to do so and they won't
don't know who's going to be president for the entire
time of the building of it.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah, you're right with that many And that's a good
point too, thanks, Ed. With it taking that long, they
start doing something like that because you got a president
who is pro refinery and then you get one so
all of a sudden, the fifteen to twenty year project
at best, all of a sudden turns into it's the
never ending project.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Maybe that could be the case.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
I don't know, but no, yes, I don't know. I like,
I say, build him in Mexico. Go down there and
throw a few million at the Mexican government. They'll say,
whatever you want to do it
Now this is a competition, then I think I might
do good at uh oh, it was a power napping competition.
I'm listening in South Korea and Alex Stone ABC News
is joining us now, and Alex, I don't know if
there's something you think you you know, you see these
goofball competitions that go on around the world. I saw
(00:20):
this and thought, yeah, I might have a chance.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I used to be better at power napping when I
was younger. Can you still power nap?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I can nap? I don't is it power? Like?
Speaker 4 (00:30):
What's no? I sleep right, I don't nap anymore. If
I go to sleep, if there's not at least an
hour involved, never mind, I'll just keep rolling.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Okay, So okay, power napping or like think on a
Saturday afternoon you're like, I'm just gonna.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Lay down here. You kind of lay there and you go, eh,
I can't do it. Yeah, yeah, Well, and I'm not
like it when I was twenty and you could just
lay down and be like boom out right.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Well, if you think if you lay down and you
say to yourself, I can't do it, I don't get
that far in the conversation. If I lay down and
it's going to happen. It happens whether I don't talk
myself out of it or I can't do it.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
When I was like sixteen years old, got my job
working in customer service over the Columbus Dispatch. We used
to get up and we were in there at five
am answering phones, and it was really cool because all
the employees took care of each other. You go down
to the basement to the break room and we'd sit
in the chairs and take literally like nine minute naps,
allowing time to get back down back upstairs from our
fifteen minute break, and the next group will come down
(01:28):
and make sure you woke up and got back up.
It was so cool, but it really refreshed you those
nine minutes at sixteen years old at work. Baby.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Well, around one hundred and seventy people participated in this one.
They measured how well people could sleep through distractions. They
got some shut eye in a public park. They were
interrupted with tickling and mosquito sounds.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
The winner was an eighty year old man, and I.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Gotta wake up when you're getting tickled.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I don't understand it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
The winner was eighty years old and thirty seven year
old office worker came in second, and so yeah, they
say South Korea is the most overworked and sleep deprived nation.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
So Mosquitos sounds I'm intrigued by that. Yeah, that little yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Get like the shivers just hearing that.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, So yeah, Alex reporting on. We all know the
gas prices are. It's ridiculous here in Ohio and I
can't imagine in California what you guys are.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I filled up at Costco today for about six bucks
a gallon and that's at Costco, so it's like seven
seven thirty for regular unleaded in other places. But yeah,
you guys have seen the biggest jump in the last
week too, that the problems are going up. There's no
indication they're going to be coming down anytime soon. The
longer the straight of her moves is impacted and not
fully opened, and know that it's going to be opened
(02:47):
for a while. The average price has gone up thirty
eight cents in the past week. Today it's at four
forty two a gallon the overall average nationwide, but Ohio, Michigan, Indiana,
and Illinois the biggest jumps in the past week, and
it comes there are beginning to be worries about supply now,
and then the last tanker to arrive from the Gulf
to refineries on the West coast it pulled in over
(03:07):
the weekend and there's none more coming. And those two
hundred barrels of oil are relied upon for coming in
and expected to be coming in, and now they're not
going to Patrick dehan over gas buddy centers.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
If the straight of horn Moose continues to be blocked
or significantly impeded, we could see the national average pushing
closer to four seventy five or even that five dollars
gallon Mark Bi Memorial Day.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Now, the President and the Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, they've said, well,
gas prices will plumb it once the strait is figured out,
and economists say, well, they will go down, but it's
going to be a while before they go down.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Quite a bit.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
That oil may plummet, but gas prices don't go down
that quickly. That they're likely going to be elevated for
weeks to months to get to pre war levels. Even
if the strait completely opened up today, it would be
in the next year before they would get back down
to those levels. Dan Swunk over KPMG Chief Economists.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Well, what we usually see is when oil prices go
up and gas prices at the pump go up, they
go up like a rocket and they fall like a feather.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
And the inventory issue is now in Europe and beginning
here in the US, of having enough that to just
domestically be able to make it and get it from
other areas. West Coast is also going to get it
now from South Korea and elsewhere without that last ship
came in from a rock, but no more can come
through the straight as of yet. Karen Young at Columbia
University Center on Global Energy Policy, she says that's going
(04:25):
to be the big concern.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Now we're dipping into inventories and so there's a realization
that there are you know, there are shortages, particularly of
refined products.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, so it looks like it's going to be a while.
People are definitely feeling it. You know, we're back to
one hundred dollars of fillip for regular car in some
areas of the country. And then jet fuel prices, you know,
they're skyrocketing as well. Spirit blame those they had a
lot of problems, but the ultimate demise that the nail
and the coffin being the high field prices, and an
airline say that gone are going to be the times
(04:53):
of cheap air travel, that they're going to have to
charge more and it's going to get more expensive, so
you never feel it, you know what.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
Too.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
The thing that's really most troubling for me about all
of this is well the obvious things that you kind
of reported on there, but with regard to the airlines,
you know, if if everything starts plummeting again, guess what
won't go back down?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
You know what I mean? Like as far as the
cost of a take, they're there.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
You know, they try to talk about well, but then
they're not even saying right now the word transitory. But
that's the evil word that a lot of people go, yeah,
shove that.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
What they'll do is what they'll do is those those
sweet thirty nine dollars airfare things. They'll keep the regular
prices high, but then they'll increase those thirty nine dollars
offers to get butts in seats again and make people
travel because it's so blasted cheap. It's for you.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I hope you're right, but yeah, man, we'll see you
know after spirit is there going to be another one,
and that's where United CEO weeks ago said that those
that that came into this not doing very well. Without
a lot of reserves, they can't make up for the
billions more they're going to spend on fuel. So there
could be others as well that the ultralocs carry your
model of Spirit Frontier allegiant. You know that there are
(06:05):
a few of them out there that did that. They
don't They don't have a lot of wiggle room and
a lot of cash reserves to be able to make
up when when all of a sudden the oil prices
go really high.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
So so we got to see.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah, I guess we could get a it's too late now,
but they should have started a GoFundMe for Spirit.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Can you imagine people, Yeah, please donate money to keep
them flying. Well, everybody, I would want to be on
that airline if it was being funded by GoFundMe.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, probably not you probably. That's a good point, yeah,
the U and I.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
The other thing, when you have the seatback in front
of you, that's like just literally few at six eight
inches twelve from your face when you're on there. I'm sorry, man,
that's a recipe because I flew once on Spirit.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
And I was like, oh, my lord, didn't they say
they were pre reclined where they they wouldn't recline, but
they pre reclined?
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Was bad translation, this is all you get.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
It was really bad.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I had no leg room and I'm only five seven,
so I'm like, I am not tall by any stretch
of the imagination.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I was like, jeez, man, this is I.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Was like, oh, get me back on Southwest Alex Stone,
ABC News, Alex, thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
You see you man, we're talking. We're talking about Spirit.
And as you're doing that, I swear the computers listen.
I get a pop up here. Did you see this Newark,
New Jersey plane. It's coming in for a landing. Newark
has had all kinds of problems lately with traffic controining
it hit.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
ALU saw that.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Oh my gosh, I saw that. That's terrifying.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
So here's the other part of this.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Remember we had everybody calling in last week trying to
tell us, well, the problem with the guns man Indiana
went offline. Yeah, well guess what is Indiana still offline?
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I don't know if the refinery's offline. The state probably
is right, man.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
But my point, My point is you you have everybody
who tries to tell you exactly it has nothing to
do with the Strait, but yet it's being reported that
it is having to do with the Strait, and then
everyone's going, that's not affecting It's only affecting a few states,
us being one of them.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Alex did point out that we are one of the.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
States that has spiked farther than anyone else, but he
just gave you a lot. It does Indiana affect California
because it does not, and so as a result, he
just reported it was six bucks he just paid.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
We haven't built any new refineries in how long you know,
I've been singing this song for a decade. It's been
about forty five years. There should be refineries, you know.
I said this back when we were worried before Trump
got in office. People are illegal immigrants in this contriga.
You want to get illegal image back to their own
com Build refineries in the golf on the Mexican side
(08:50):
of the golf. Create good jobs down there, refinery jobs.
They people will go back home. They don't have to
come here in order to pursue a better life. They
can be in Mexico and pursue a better life because
the refineries are right there. There's no EPA to consider.
You can get the oil out of the ground, and
we wouldn't have to worry about this stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
That's interesting. Wow, that's actually really good.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Plus, we know we've got like three hundred years plus
of natural gas in the Gulf that they just can't
get to, but they've already found it, so you know
that's where the energy is. Let's go do something with
it instead of getting held hostage and paying five bucks
a gallon.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, I don't. I just there's a lot of math
that ain't mathing for me.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
And look, I'm not just gonna fall in line and
be like, yep, it's completely fine that we're doing.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I hate this. This sucks. There's no question that it sucks.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
As far as the high gas price is right now,
I told you on the way here, I saw four
eighty eight and I was hopeful. I'm like, oh, okay,
is it gonna start going back down now? But then
there were so many other stations I passed that We're
still at four ninety nine right now, so we're higher
than the average price, which is did you see that
it's four dollars and forty three cents. That's the national average.
(10:08):
Ours may be up.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Everything I saw today was four ninety nine.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, I was going to say there, we may be
up because of that refinery. I guess still that people
were sighting in Indiana. But that's the thing. It's that's
not affecting the entire United States. So what gives with
the rest of the United States.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
At this point? I I I don't know, is it is.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
It bad or is it really really selfish to say
I wish the day would just get on with it.
What it feels like he's and he, being the president
is kind of kicking the can or just stalling here.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
And I, I don't know. I'm once I'm one of
those people.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
It's like, uh, he's got a lot more information than
I did, so I've got to try to I got
to try to temper this.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
But at the same time, is it it's like like.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I hate to think of myself as somebody's like, hurry
up and get the gas prices down, bomb those people.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
I think he is trying that. I think he's trying
to keep everybody's spirits up that he can and keep
being hopeful we're talking with him there they we seem
to be on our way to something. They seem to
want to deal blah blah blah. Just to keep the
negatives as low as he possibly can. Plus, he's walking
the line here. Could we just go in and flatten
that country? Yes, and then you got the Germans going.
(11:29):
America's getting embarrassed by the Iranians. No, you German. I
mean maybe your folks are used to wiping out everything
in their path. We're trying not to do that. So
sit down, shut up, and have some strudel. Donald Trump
is trying to get this done, get the oil situation
worked out, get rid of the worries about terrorism and
nuclear armaments in the hands of crazed people, and kill
(11:53):
as few people as possible is what it comes down to.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
It's called diplomacy.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Yeah, we could mow down the country, but then he'd
be the hateful president and he'd be the worst thing
ever and all that. Just my gosh, you're not in it.
Just please, let's trust the people that are to do
it right.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah, And it's that you're right. It's the people on
the sidelines that are goading it. I mean, they're like
like making fun because that's what they would really like
to see happen. I believe that we would do something
like that, And I don't know, man, there's.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
A lot of them out there that we love for
nothing more than to see us fall on our face
or for you know, Iraq to join in or something
and see us turn this into a big deal that
it shouldn't be, just so they can say, see, that's
what Trump does. That's more important to them than the
health and safety of this country and the people of
this country.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Well, the surrounding Middle East ought to be real thankful
to us right about now in this situation, because they're
a lot closer to Iran than we are.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Don't forget they fired missiles into Saudi Arabia, u A, Syria.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
And they're all sitting on their hands.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Yeah, yeah, you're doing nothing, the British, you're doing nothing.
I don't know why King Charles even came over here.
Just you didn't understand that either. Yeah, you're buying oil
from the blasted Russians, so they've got money to destroy Ukraine.
When's the last time you heard about Ukraine? You didn't
because we're too busy graping about Iran right.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Now, Hey, Ed, welcome to the show.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
The reason why they're not building new refineries it takes
fifteen to twenty years to do so and they won't
don't know who's going to be president for the entire
time of the building of it.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah, you're right with that many And that's a good
point too, thanks, Ed. With it taking that long, they
start doing something like that because you got a president
who is pro refinery and then you get one so
all of a sudden, the fifteen to twenty year project
at best, all of a sudden turns into it's the
never ending project.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Maybe that could be the case.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
I don't know, but no, yes, I don't know. I like,
I say, build him in Mexico. Go down there and
throw a few million at the Mexican government. They'll say,
whatever you want to do it
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