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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know, I didn't realize the science behind winning rock
paper scissors most of the time. But there is a
science to this. Believe it or not. Do you play
rock papers? Look at your face.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I'm just wondering how somebody like you, who is like
mister DraftKings and knows all the stuff in Vegas and so,
how you do not realize that odds come into play
when it comes to rock paper scisms.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Well, certainly, but this is I guess they're saying they're
science involved with this. The researchers with the xing Jiang University,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Oh, everybody goes there. It's all the rage j Jijing,
j Beijing a major in plastic surgery for Korean women.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Uh, to the tune of four hundred plus of those,
is that what you're Oh? Yeah yeah. Xexiang University they
use seventy two people in twelve teams, and they're trying
to get to the mental aspect of paper rock scissors,
rock paper scissors. So each of the group's played three rounds.
Rewards were given to winners to stimulate stakes. The study
(01:10):
found each throw appeared about one third of the time,
but a clear pattern showed us up Winners would repeat
their previous throw. Losers would move to the next in
the predictable sequence rock paper scissors, rock, paper scissors. Researchers
called this a conditional response that's hardwired into the human brain.
(01:34):
Get this. Men were more likely to start the game
with rock, while women most frequently started with scissors.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I what if you get two hardheads to just keep
going rock rock, rock, rock, rock over and over again.
It never ends.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, I guess you would stand there and do that
till somebody decided to change, or you just call it
quits and go all right, we're gonna end in a tie.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
No, keep hitting the rocks together. Eventually he calls a
spark whatever you catches on fire, and it's well.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, okay, I guess you should know that route. I
usually use the RSP methods rock, sis or paper.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Seventy percentage overall for me, that's.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
A lifetime of plan.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Congressman Jordan is joining us now, And how about that
for science, Congressman.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, like I said, there's always something new I do.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
The Mark Blazers show here in the afternoon. The Yeah,
the only part that made sense to me was the
rock part. Yeah, that's like it's just like you rockhead
guys are gonna pick rock for that. That makes sense
to me. But other other than that, I didn't really
follow it. It seems like, I guess what were you saying, Like,
you pick rocks and the next thing, you're gonna pick
his paper. You're gonna follow the terms, yeah you.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
So they're calling that the predictable sequence. So it's called
that whole thing is called rock paper scissors, right, because
that's what I haven't heard anybody go, uh, all right,
let's do scissors rock paper for it to see who wins.
Usually people go rock paper scissors for the wind. Yeah, yeah,
you know who's paying for this? Who's saying for this
(03:00):
round of drinks? Rock paper scissors. Let's see you don't
have anybody going paper scissors rock, you know, let's see
who pays for the So they're saying because of that's
predictable as far as the sequence goes, that's what people
tend to do as well. Just kind of subliminally, I say.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Now that we know all this, could we get Mike
Johnson to make this policy on the floor and we
could solve a lot of problems this way.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
All right, Chuck, there it is Chuck, here we go
rock paper scissors to get the government open again. Let's go,
you goon.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Well, no, except with the Democrats. You know what they
would choose, what a bunch of grapes.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
A bunch of grapes.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
It's not an option, so that's what they'd want.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I thought you meant as in sour rock.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Paper scissors makes about as much sense as the reason
they're shutting down the government. I mean, they won't they
won't spend, they won't vote for what they voted for before.
And it's the level of spending they agree to, you know,
six months ago, So it makes about as much sense
as that. So maybe maybe there's something there.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yeah. Yeah, And we were talking about this earlier when
we started the show too, Congressman, with regards to this shutdown.
I mean, we're on day twenty right now, and there's prediction. Now.
I saw as late as after Thanksgiving and I was like, wow,
that's that's crazy. I mean it's everywhere. It's all over
the place, clearly as far as where you know the
(04:16):
shutdown could end or whatever. And certainly I know you
don't have a crystal ball, and we sometimes ask you
to look into one and go, hey, what are your
but I know you have thoughts with regard to well,
this whole shutdown.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yeah, and to the we're getting almost to the point
now where we're you know, we're getting close to November
twenty first, which is what this this continuing Resolution to
build it's on the table that the Senate Democrats had
voted down now ten times. I believe we're getting close
where that's almost We're almost there. I mean, we're we're
getting about halfway there. We're three weeks of the seven
weeks there, so it won't be much longer. We'll be
(04:50):
like closer to the end than we were we started.
And then you start thinking, on, these are these Democrats
going to keep the government clothes all the way till
you know, the Friday four Thanksgiving. I don't know, you
never know because their position just doesn't seem to make
much sense to me.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yeah, they're not. It seems like they're not budging at
all with regard to this, and everybody's calling it Schumer's
shut down, and I you know, you you look all
over the place. We know from the facts that, like
you pointed out, they already voted up on the Continuing Resolution.
They it was a clean cr they voted that everything's fine.
(05:28):
It was just an extension of that. And now they're going, no, no,
that's not and it has to do with Obamacare. Is
really what they're trying to get like worked in here, correct.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yeah, well youre right. They want they want people who
are not citizens who are here, they want taxpayer fundance
health care for them, and they want they want this
this expanded to extend. They already expanded Obamacare. And I
always point out, remember everything they told us about Obamacare
when they passed it, from ten twelve years ago whenever
that was. Everything they told us turn out to be false.
(06:00):
Remember they said, you like your plan, you can keep
your plan. You like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. Yeah,
they told us premiums that will go down. President Obama
told us premiums will go down on average fifteen hundred dollars.
Well how that worked out? I mean, none of those
things proved accurate. And so then they said, well, we're
going to expand the program that we lie to you about.
They expanded it. They extended that expansion during COVID, and
(06:22):
now they want to extend it again so much so
that they won't vote keep the government open at the
levels they already agreed to six months before. So that's
their position. And oh, by the way, they do want
non citizens to be able to get tax payer finance
healthcare as well, So I mean that's sort of like, yeah,
I don't know that that's a good good play, but
that's what they're sticking to. And we'll just have to
(06:42):
see how this how this kicks out.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Is there any kind of polling going on to indicate
whether or not the American people, as a general rule,
get that. That's that's my biggest worry, the ignorance of
the American voter. It's that they listen to whatever comes on,
you know MSNBC tonight. They don't get that. That is
the sticking point, whether they want to hear it or not.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, I do think in the end, the voters tend
to get it. Right now, they're here and you know,
your healthcare are going to go your premiums are going
to go up, and Democrats. But so they hear that
part of it, and then they hear from us, Yeah,
they voted for this before. Why this is so they
sort of agreed with both sides, and I think that
could be part of the problem. Is is I think
the Democrats think, oh, we're getting our message out to
(07:21):
you know, their voters, so to speak. And of course
I think our voters are like, you know this, this
makes no sense. So that's sort of the dilimma we're in.
Hopefully we'll get some kind of resolution to this. I
think the President is actually I think meeting with the
Republican senators here sometime here soon. Maybe that'll be helpful
as well, and we'll just have to see.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah. And also the thing too, the misleading from the
left regarding all of this, talking about how we have
the majority in the you know, all three in both
houses and of course sixteen hundred, but which that's they
it's partial truth, like that is the case. Yes, but
(08:03):
then they stop short of saying how we need some
Democrats to vote up as far as in the Senate
in order to get this through, and they stopped there.
And though see it's the Republican's fault. They've got they
have control of everything, and they still want to keep
the government shut down. It is so irritating. I can't
even imagine what you guys have to go through. Congressman.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yeah, yeah, great point, Mark, I was I was at
a town hall with Rocanna and Chris Cuoman some others
last week, and Rocanna, the Democrat from California, was making
that point, and I'm like, okay, so I said, newsflash,
Rocana's for getting rid of the filibuster because he knows
that everyone up here knows that in order to pass
something in the Senate, you need sixty votes. So if
(08:46):
he's now advocating to get rid of the filibuster while
Republicans have a majority of the Senate, then you should
say that what you shouldn't do is that parcel truth
like you said, oh, we do, we do control the
all three branches of the government, but you still need
sixty votes in the Senate.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
The passing thing, yeah yeah, the no kings thing. That
what a waste of time over the weekend and we're
hearing reports of seven million people and then you know,
showing up in twenty six hundred different I don't know
cities or areas or however you want to quantify that.
I don't even And look, this is you know, NBC
(09:23):
reporting this, and you know you're always skeptical as a conservative,
especially these are the same outlets that told you, you know,
you get the you get the you get the jab
and you're gonna be fine. You can't get caught. I mean,
it's everything that they've backed over and over. Congressman. I
just it's just it's matt with skepticism every single time
(09:43):
we see it. It's also a bunch of old white
people that we were seeing as far as that that's
seems to be the face of what was happening over
the weekend. And you know, you just see all these
different people. Nobody was giving definitive answers as to why
they were out there protesting. It's it is just it
just continues to just be a dumpster fire with the
(10:06):
left and and it's just I don't even know. You
just hope that they continue this silliness all the way
to twenty eight because it feels like they're going to
get smoked again.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah, And the irony is President Trump is planning, you know,
our two hundred fiftieth anniversary of the Declaration, one of
the biggest celebrations to to commemorate and celebrate the fact
that we declared independence and fought a war to get
rid of the king and now oh got a king
in the water, Like, what are they talking about? No
(10:38):
common sense American buy that. It is just more the
left going after President Trump, which they have done now
for more than a decade.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah. I don't know how many different ways our president
could say I'm certainly not a king. And one of
them was right there while he was flying. It was
to the press corps talking about I work my ass off,
I am, I'm far from a king. And then the
most common sense thing, a king wouldn't let you protest.
It went off with your head.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
You know, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yes, his social media response has been beautiful though. They
really have the crown and scepter, and oh yeah, he's
having fun with it like he has fun with all
the other silliness.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Very true, very true.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah, good stuff, all right, Congressman Jim Jordan, thanks for
jumping on with me.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
You bet, guys always going to do with you.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Take care. Yeah, thanks man, you too. All right.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
It's hard to believe, honestly that it's the twenty one days,
three weeks tomorrow, because again, you know, I don't work
for the federal government. My mail is still arriving, that
fiker guy still keeps reaching in my pocket. I it's
hard for me to notice, and I just I you know,
until people start hurting outside of federal government employees, it's
(11:46):
probably going to stay that way.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yep, yep,
You know, I didn't realize the science behind winning rock
paper scissors most of the time. But there is a
science to this. Believe it or not. Do you play
rock papers? Look at your face.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I'm just wondering how somebody like you, who is like
mister DraftKings and knows all the stuff in Vegas and so,
how you do not realize that odds come into play
when it comes to rock paper scisms.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Well, certainly, but this is I guess they're saying they're
science involved with this. The researchers with the xing Jiang University,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Oh, everybody goes there. It's all the rage j Jijing,
j Beijing a major in plastic surgery for Korean women.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Uh, to the tune of four hundred plus of those,
is that what you're Oh? Yeah yeah. Xexiang University they
use seventy two people in twelve teams, and they're trying
to get to the mental aspect of paper rock scissors,
rock paper scissors. So each of the group's played three rounds.
Rewards were given to winners to stimulate stakes. The study
(01:10):
found each throw appeared about one third of the time,
but a clear pattern showed us up Winners would repeat
their previous throw. Losers would move to the next in
the predictable sequence rock paper scissors, rock, paper scissors. Researchers
called this a conditional response that's hardwired into the human brain.
(01:34):
Get this. Men were more likely to start the game
with rock, while women most frequently started with scissors.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I what if you get two hardheads to just keep
going rock rock, rock, rock, rock over and over again.
It never ends.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, I guess you would stand there and do that
till somebody decided to change, or you just call it
quits and go all right, we're gonna end in a tie.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
No, keep hitting the rocks together. Eventually he calls a
spark whatever you catches on fire, and it's well.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, okay, I guess you should know that route. I
usually use the RSP methods rock, sis or paper.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Seventy percentage overall for me, that's.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
A lifetime of plan.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Congressman Jordan is joining us now, And how about that
for science, Congressman.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, like I said, there's always something new I do.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
The Mark Blazers show here in the afternoon. The Yeah,
the only part that made sense to me was the
rock part. Yeah, that's like it's just like you rockhead
guys are gonna pick rock for that. That makes sense
to me. But other other than that, I didn't really
follow it. It seems like, I guess what were you saying, Like,
you pick rocks and the next thing, you're gonna pick
his paper. You're gonna follow the terms, yeah you.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
So they're calling that the predictable sequence. So it's called
that whole thing is called rock paper scissors, right, because
that's what I haven't heard anybody go, uh, all right,
let's do scissors rock paper for it to see who wins.
Usually people go rock paper scissors for the wind. Yeah, yeah,
you know who's paying for this? Who's saying for this
(03:00):
round of drinks? Rock paper scissors. Let's see you don't
have anybody going paper scissors rock, you know, let's see
who pays for the So they're saying because of that's
predictable as far as the sequence goes, that's what people
tend to do as well. Just kind of subliminally, I say.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Now that we know all this, could we get Mike
Johnson to make this policy on the floor and we
could solve a lot of problems this way.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
All right, Chuck, there it is Chuck, here we go
rock paper scissors to get the government open again. Let's go,
you goon.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Well, no, except with the Democrats. You know what they
would choose, what a bunch of grapes.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
A bunch of grapes.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
It's not an option, so that's what they'd want.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I thought you meant as in sour rock.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Paper scissors makes about as much sense as the reason
they're shutting down the government. I mean, they won't they
won't spend, they won't vote for what they voted for before.
And it's the level of spending they agree to, you know,
six months ago, So it makes about as much sense
as that. So maybe maybe there's something there.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yeah. Yeah, And we were talking about this earlier when
we started the show too, Congressman, with regards to this shutdown.
I mean, we're on day twenty right now, and there's prediction. Now.
I saw as late as after Thanksgiving and I was like, wow,
that's that's crazy. I mean it's everywhere. It's all over
the place, clearly as far as where you know the
(04:16):
shutdown could end or whatever. And certainly I know you
don't have a crystal ball, and we sometimes ask you
to look into one and go, hey, what are your
but I know you have thoughts with regard to well,
this whole shutdown.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yeah, and to the we're getting almost to the point
now where we're you know, we're getting close to November
twenty first, which is what this this continuing Resolution to
build it's on the table that the Senate Democrats had
voted down now ten times. I believe we're getting close
where that's almost We're almost there. I mean, we're we're
getting about halfway there. We're three weeks of the seven
weeks there, so it won't be much longer. We'll be
(04:50):
like closer to the end than we were we started.
And then you start thinking, on, these are these Democrats
going to keep the government clothes all the way till
you know, the Friday four Thanksgiving. I don't know, you
never know because their position just doesn't seem to make
much sense to me.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yeah, they're not. It seems like they're not budging at
all with regard to this, and everybody's calling it Schumer's
shut down, and I you know, you you look all
over the place. We know from the facts that, like
you pointed out, they already voted up on the Continuing Resolution.
They it was a clean cr they voted that everything's fine.
(05:28):
It was just an extension of that. And now they're going, no, no,
that's not and it has to do with Obamacare. Is
really what they're trying to get like worked in here, correct.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yeah, well youre right. They want they want people who
are not citizens who are here, they want taxpayer fundance
health care for them, and they want they want this
this expanded to extend. They already expanded Obamacare. And I
always point out, remember everything they told us about Obamacare
when they passed it, from ten twelve years ago whenever
that was. Everything they told us turn out to be false.
(06:00):
Remember they said, you like your plan, you can keep
your plan. You like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. Yeah,
they told us premiums that will go down. President Obama
told us premiums will go down on average fifteen hundred dollars.
Well how that worked out? I mean, none of those
things proved accurate. And so then they said, well, we're
going to expand the program that we lie to you about.
They expanded it. They extended that expansion during COVID, and
(06:22):
now they want to extend it again so much so
that they won't vote keep the government open at the
levels they already agreed to six months before. So that's
their position. And oh, by the way, they do want
non citizens to be able to get tax payer finance
healthcare as well, So I mean that's sort of like, yeah,
I don't know that that's a good good play, but
that's what they're sticking to. And we'll just have to
(06:42):
see how this how this kicks out.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Is there any kind of polling going on to indicate
whether or not the American people, as a general rule,
get that. That's that's my biggest worry, the ignorance of
the American voter. It's that they listen to whatever comes on,
you know MSNBC tonight. They don't get that. That is
the sticking point, whether they want to hear it or not.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, I do think in the end, the voters tend
to get it. Right now, they're here and you know,
your healthcare are going to go your premiums are going
to go up, and Democrats. But so they hear that
part of it, and then they hear from us, Yeah,
they voted for this before. Why this is so they
sort of agreed with both sides, and I think that
could be part of the problem. Is is I think
the Democrats think, oh, we're getting our message out to
(07:21):
you know, their voters, so to speak. And of course
I think our voters are like, you know this, this
makes no sense. So that's sort of the dilimma we're in.
Hopefully we'll get some kind of resolution to this. I
think the President is actually I think meeting with the
Republican senators here sometime here soon. Maybe that'll be helpful
as well, and we'll just have to see.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah. And also the thing too, the misleading from the
left regarding all of this, talking about how we have
the majority in the you know, all three in both
houses and of course sixteen hundred, but which that's they
it's partial truth, like that is the case. Yes, but
(08:03):
then they stop short of saying how we need some
Democrats to vote up as far as in the Senate
in order to get this through, and they stopped there.
And though see it's the Republican's fault. They've got they
have control of everything, and they still want to keep
the government shut down. It is so irritating. I can't
even imagine what you guys have to go through. Congressman.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yeah, yeah, great point, Mark, I was I was at
a town hall with Rocanna and Chris Cuoman some others
last week, and Rocanna, the Democrat from California, was making
that point, and I'm like, okay, so I said, newsflash,
Rocana's for getting rid of the filibuster because he knows
that everyone up here knows that in order to pass
something in the Senate, you need sixty votes. So if
(08:46):
he's now advocating to get rid of the filibuster while
Republicans have a majority of the Senate, then you should
say that what you shouldn't do is that parcel truth
like you said, oh, we do, we do control the
all three branches of the government, but you still need
sixty votes in the Senate.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
The passing thing, yeah yeah, the no kings thing. That
what a waste of time over the weekend and we're
hearing reports of seven million people and then you know,
showing up in twenty six hundred different I don't know
cities or areas or however you want to quantify that.
I don't even And look, this is you know, NBC
(09:23):
reporting this, and you know you're always skeptical as a conservative,
especially these are the same outlets that told you, you know,
you get the you get the you get the jab
and you're gonna be fine. You can't get caught. I mean,
it's everything that they've backed over and over. Congressman. I
just it's just it's matt with skepticism every single time
(09:43):
we see it. It's also a bunch of old white
people that we were seeing as far as that that's
seems to be the face of what was happening over
the weekend. And you know, you just see all these
different people. Nobody was giving definitive answers as to why
they were out there protesting. It's it is just it
just continues to just be a dumpster fire with the
(10:06):
left and and it's just I don't even know. You
just hope that they continue this silliness all the way
to twenty eight because it feels like they're going to
get smoked again.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah, And the irony is President Trump is planning, you know,
our two hundred fiftieth anniversary of the Declaration, one of
the biggest celebrations to to commemorate and celebrate the fact
that we declared independence and fought a war to get
rid of the king and now oh got a king
in the water, Like, what are they talking about? No
(10:38):
common sense American buy that. It is just more the
left going after President Trump, which they have done now
for more than a decade.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah. I don't know how many different ways our president
could say I'm certainly not a king. And one of
them was right there while he was flying. It was
to the press corps talking about I work my ass off,
I am, I'm far from a king. And then the
most common sense thing, a king wouldn't let you protest.
It went off with your head.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
You know, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yes, his social media response has been beautiful though. They
really have the crown and scepter, and oh yeah, he's
having fun with it like he has fun with all
the other silliness.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Very true, very true.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah, good stuff, all right, Congressman Jim Jordan, thanks for
jumping on with me.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
You bet, guys always going to do with you.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Take care. Yeah, thanks man, you too. All right.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
It's hard to believe, honestly that it's the twenty one days,
three weeks tomorrow, because again, you know, I don't work
for the federal government. My mail is still arriving, that
fiker guy still keeps reaching in my pocket. I it's
hard for me to notice, and I just I you know,
until people start hurting outside of federal government employees, it's
(11:46):
probably going to stay that way.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yep, yep,
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