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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So the House is going to vote here in a
little bit and hopefully we'll get the government reopened. And
Congressman Jim Jordan taking a few minutes to jump on
with us. Now, Hey, Congressman, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'm fine, Mark, How you doing doing?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Okay? Busy day for you guys today, And you had
to were you were you already on the hill, like,
were you already in town or did you have to
go back or what was this?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Well, I've been I've been coming back every week. We've
been doing our oversight. You know, we got oversight responsibility
that we're supposed to do under our great constitution. So
we've been back every week doing that. But I was
actually flew in last night for uh for today's vote,
and then I got to head outtown tomorrow. And I'm
traveling a little bit tomorrow and helping some colleagues and
doing some different things. But yeah, I got back in
(00:41):
town last night.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
So speaking of flying, I know Monday, when you were
supposed to you know, you typically and and it moves
around sometimes, but you were on the tarmac and so
on last night. Was it was it smooth getting in
last night or what were the airlines.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Like the only the only time I had any delay
was the flight that prevented me from jumping on our
normal time A little leafter five on on Monday, so
but mostly mostly smooth. Actually I flew, I flew too.
I was in Florida for just the day. Flew down
on a I guess that flew down Monday night and
then uh back Tuesday night to d C. So yeah,
(01:17):
it was U but there was an I had layover
in Atlanta. There was a delay there, and that's what
from getting on to you, So I didn't see that
the real weights in the in the in the cancelation
that we've been hearing about and seeing. Some people have
obviously had to experience that, but we haven't. And hopefully
now we get the government open today that that that
that'll all start to calm down and get back to
get back to some some level of normal.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I was reading on something I was reading here that
you guys have approximately seven to seven thirty is when
you're going to vote on this.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah we got yeah, yeah, we got the vote. There's
tip I think there are just two votes to vote
on the rule, which lays out the perimeters for the
debate on the actual bill. Uh, and and so the
rule vote will be here, uh pretty soon, I think
within the next fifteen to twenty minutes, and then we'll
have the vote on the final package. What is probably
around seven seven thirty long in there.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
What is the Senate amendment to fifty three to seventy one?
What is that?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
The only thing the Senate added. They had a few
things in there, this idea that you can't risk employees
total government employees between now in January thirtieth, But it's
largely what we passed, which was this clean cr funding
at the levels that the Democrats all voted for six
months ago, and now eight of them and all the
Republicans in the House voted for that again are in
the Senate, and now we're going to get a chance
(02:30):
to look at just a few changes that the Senate made.
They did add in there this provision about if you
follow these senators who had their phone records seized by
Jack Smith and a judge put a gag order on
the carriers eighteen TEA and Verisons that they couldn't tell
the senators that the government went and got their their
phone logs, who they talked to, what times, and what
(02:52):
dates they talked to them. So there's a provision there
that's going to make that more difficult in the future
to happen. And that's about all that was added in.
So it was pretty much a forty some day shut
down the government and the Democrats got the same bill
that could have voted on forty some days early.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
And that's just it. What are you hearing from your
colleagues with regard to that, because hey, listen, Congressman Jim
Jordan is joining us now, and obviously they're going to
be voting here in a few minutes. But I you know,
you look around late night TV and so on, and
all the Lib hosts are trashing the DEM's going, you
guys waited all this time, you got squat, you got nothing.
(03:33):
And I know that, you know, it's not supposed to
be a kind of a thing if you're you know
of a Republican or you're conservative, and you're going, what
did you guys hold out for? And then I'm also
seeing that, you know, I saw there was a report
today that Schumer was supposedly secretly, you know, rallying against
the government reopening. We see what dollar store Obama's doing.
(03:55):
Hakeem Jefferies. He's he doesn't want any of this stuff
because it looks like there we like they gave in,
and it's just like, I mean, where do you come down?
Speaker 3 (04:04):
What are you hearing with that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, I think you've got to go back to what
this was really about. From for the Democrats, you know,
they try to say it was about healthcare, but this
is Obamacare. And if Obamacare was so great, why do
you have to keep you know, subsidizing, expanding it and
extending it the subsidy and all these things. So in
the end, this was really about just going after President Trump.
The only thing that brings Democrats together, the only thing
(04:28):
that got is let's go after President Trump. And we've
talked time and time again about how how this Trump
derangement syndrome is a real thing. It is a truly
real thing, and so many Democrats have it. That's the
only thing this was really ultimately about. And as a result,
there were a handful of Democrats in the Senate said,
this is ridiculous, this is the level of spending we
(04:49):
all agree to. Let's open up the government and forget
about this craziness. And thank goodness, eight of them actually
did that. But for most Democrats, this wasn't really about healthcare.
In my judgment, this is just about going.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
After President Congress if we have the problem tonight that
I'm worried we're going to have. I know you're hoping
for a vote to be called between seven and seven
and thirty, But the last hurrah, the last grasp of
any sort of dignity some of these people may have,
would be some grand standing and trying to I don't
want this to drag on past midnight tonight because people
have to get up and go on their diet tribes
(05:22):
and try to save face in some way. Do we
have enough horsepower to call the question, shut them up,
and take the vote before this day is open?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah? We do. And remember the rule that we passed
put the put the time limit on debate so many,
so many minutes per side, So there there will be
I anticipate a vote around seven and you know, maybe
you know in that in that in that range, I
do think we will get the vast, vast majority of
Republicans to support this. Maybe one or two don't, but
(05:49):
I think the vast majority will. And then I think
we get a handful of Democrats. I think there are
some people who are just like you know, I think
we got one Democrat the last time when we voted,
you know, six seven weeks ago the House. I think
we get more, so we could have we can have
a handful of Democrats and we'll be just fine. And
then of course the President will sign it right away
and the government will be open, and then we'll get
back to, you know, dealing with the other things we've
(06:10):
gotta deal.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
With then, and then we'll do it all again at
the end of January one.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
More time, right, well, January thirties. You're right, And who
knows the Democrats do the same thing, you know, who knows.
The good news too, is that this sets a date
after Christmas. Because I've been around here time and time
again and in various years where it's all December nineteenth.
This the that we've got to fund the government or
we have a cr to that date if we don't,
(06:36):
and it's and it's like, you know, everyone wanting to
get home to their families at Christmas, and it's like
how they put pressure on people to vote, thinks. So
that's that's another nice thing about this bill going into
next year.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I saw a senator soon also was saying, uh, yeah,
like somebody one of the one of the uh you know,
the media ask him about will you guys then do
what you're saying, which is, you know, you guys will
will take a vote or you you will sit down
and negotiate, or he'll take and he goes, I don't Yeah,
(07:08):
I'm not voting for that at all. I'll just tell
you right now. It was basically yeah, I'm kind of
you know, I'm paraphrasing, but I saw that and just
started laughing, going, yeah, you're going to get that, but
it's not going to probably be the result they're looking for.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Right Well, yeah, senators soon promised to vote. He didn't
promise that he was going to go with members to
actually support it, like, I'll be voting against this, this
this expanded extension of Obamacare. So I wouldn't vote for
that either, And you know, well, what I'll what I
will support is when we actually perform healthcare and empower
(07:43):
families and power markets and do the right association health plans,
health savings accounts pre tax dollars to put away that
you can then use, or making more plans available that
are for like high deductible catastrophic care plans for for families,
which is what what families want. They're much more affordable.
I mean, those are the kind of things I think
we should be supporting, not just extending Obamacare, which, by
(08:04):
the way, everything they told has turned out to be false.
Like you're playing, keep your playing, like your doctor, keep
your doctor. Cremius will go down to Obama. President Obama
said they'll go down on average fifteen hundred dollars. Well, Paul,
that was true. Why do you have to keep subsidizing
because it doesn't work? So what we need is things
that actually work. In a power family.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
We'll be watching tonight. Everybody, the whole country obviously watching
for sure. Congressman Jim Jordan, thanks for jumping on with us. Man, great,
have a great night.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Thanks you two guys.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Think we'll see you man, Yeah, I'm sure this is
It sounds like they're on a mission. They're going to
get this. This is going to get handled tonight, and
I like how you put it. We have enough horsepower
to get this done during this day.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
You know, we're going to have a lot of chin
music trying to save face and make it look like
you were not battered about the hid and shoulders and
I just don't want that to take forever. It's done.
Let's get it done and move on.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Yeah, you all tried, you shoved all in, we called
you're two nine off. You had nothing and we had
four aces. It's that simple, and you lose. That's really
that's the way to quantify this whole thing.
So the House is going to vote here in a
little bit and hopefully we'll get the government reopened. And
Congressman Jim Jordan taking a few minutes to jump on
with us. Now, Hey, Congressman, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'm fine, Mark, How you doing doing?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Okay? Busy day for you guys today, And you had
to were you were you already on the hill, like,
were you already in town or did you have to
go back or what was this?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Well, I've been I've been coming back every week. We've
been doing our oversight. You know, we got oversight responsibility
that we're supposed to do under our great constitution. So
we've been back every week doing that. But I was
actually flew in last night for uh for today's vote,
and then I got to head outtown tomorrow. And I'm
traveling a little bit tomorrow and helping some colleagues and
doing some different things. But yeah, I got back in
(00:41):
town last night.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
So speaking of flying, I know Monday, when you were
supposed to you know, you typically and and it moves
around sometimes, but you were on the tarmac and so
on last night. Was it was it smooth getting in
last night or what were the airlines.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Like the only the only time I had any delay
was the flight that prevented me from jumping on our
normal time A little leafter five on on Monday, so
but mostly mostly smooth. Actually I flew, I flew too.
I was in Florida for just the day. Flew down
on a I guess that flew down Monday night and
then uh back Tuesday night to d C. So yeah,
(01:17):
it was U but there was an I had layover
in Atlanta. There was a delay there, and that's what
from getting on to you, So I didn't see that
the real weights in the in the in the cancelation
that we've been hearing about and seeing. Some people have
obviously had to experience that, but we haven't. And hopefully
now we get the government open today that that that
that'll all start to calm down and get back to
get back to some some level of normal.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I was reading on something I was reading here that
you guys have approximately seven to seven thirty is when
you're going to vote on this.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah we got yeah, yeah, we got the vote. There's
tip I think there are just two votes to vote
on the rule, which lays out the perimeters for the
debate on the actual bill. Uh, and and so the
rule vote will be here, uh pretty soon, I think
within the next fifteen to twenty minutes, and then we'll
have the vote on the final package. What is probably
around seven seven thirty long in there.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
What is the Senate amendment to fifty three to seventy one?
What is that?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
The only thing the Senate added. They had a few
things in there, this idea that you can't risk employees
total government employees between now in January thirtieth, But it's
largely what we passed, which was this clean cr funding
at the levels that the Democrats all voted for six
months ago, and now eight of them and all the
Republicans in the House voted for that again are in
the Senate, and now we're going to get a chance
(02:30):
to look at just a few changes that the Senate made.
They did add in there this provision about if you
follow these senators who had their phone records seized by
Jack Smith and a judge put a gag order on
the carriers eighteen TEA and Verisons that they couldn't tell
the senators that the government went and got their their
phone logs, who they talked to, what times, and what
(02:52):
dates they talked to them. So there's a provision there
that's going to make that more difficult in the future
to happen. And that's about all that was added in.
So it was pretty much a forty some day shut
down the government and the Democrats got the same bill
that could have voted on forty some days early.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
And that's just it. What are you hearing from your
colleagues with regard to that, because hey, listen, Congressman Jim
Jordan is joining us now, and obviously they're going to
be voting here in a few minutes. But I you know,
you look around late night TV and so on, and
all the Lib hosts are trashing the DEM's going, you
guys waited all this time, you got squat, you got nothing.
(03:33):
And I know that, you know, it's not supposed to
be a kind of a thing if you're you know
of a Republican or you're conservative, and you're going, what
did you guys hold out for? And then I'm also
seeing that, you know, I saw there was a report
today that Schumer was supposedly secretly, you know, rallying against
the government reopening. We see what dollar store Obama's doing.
(03:55):
Hakeem Jefferies. He's he doesn't want any of this stuff
because it looks like there we like they gave in,
and it's just like, I mean, where do you come down?
Speaker 3 (04:04):
What are you hearing with that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, I think you've got to go back to what
this was really about. From for the Democrats, you know,
they try to say it was about healthcare, but this
is Obamacare. And if Obamacare was so great, why do
you have to keep you know, subsidizing, expanding it and
extending it the subsidy and all these things. So in
the end, this was really about just going after President Trump.
The only thing that brings Democrats together, the only thing
(04:28):
that got is let's go after President Trump. And we've
talked time and time again about how how this Trump
derangement syndrome is a real thing. It is a truly
real thing, and so many Democrats have it. That's the
only thing this was really ultimately about. And as a result,
there were a handful of Democrats in the Senate said,
this is ridiculous, this is the level of spending we
(04:49):
all agree to. Let's open up the government and forget
about this craziness. And thank goodness, eight of them actually
did that. But for most Democrats, this wasn't really about healthcare.
In my judgment, this is just about going.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
After President Congress if we have the problem tonight that
I'm worried we're going to have. I know you're hoping
for a vote to be called between seven and seven
and thirty, But the last hurrah, the last grasp of
any sort of dignity some of these people may have,
would be some grand standing and trying to I don't
want this to drag on past midnight tonight because people
have to get up and go on their diet tribes
(05:22):
and try to save face in some way. Do we
have enough horsepower to call the question, shut them up,
and take the vote before this day is open?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah? We do. And remember the rule that we passed
put the put the time limit on debate so many,
so many minutes per side, So there there will be
I anticipate a vote around seven and you know, maybe
you know in that in that in that range, I
do think we will get the vast, vast majority of
Republicans to support this. Maybe one or two don't, but
(05:49):
I think the vast majority will. And then I think
we get a handful of Democrats. I think there are
some people who are just like you know, I think
we got one Democrat the last time when we voted,
you know, six seven weeks ago the House. I think
we get more, so we could have we can have
a handful of Democrats and we'll be just fine. And
then of course the President will sign it right away
and the government will be open, and then we'll get
back to, you know, dealing with the other things we've
(06:10):
gotta deal.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
With then, and then we'll do it all again at
the end of January one.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
More time, right, well, January thirties. You're right, And who
knows the Democrats do the same thing, you know, who knows.
The good news too, is that this sets a date
after Christmas. Because I've been around here time and time
again and in various years where it's all December nineteenth.
This the that we've got to fund the government or
we have a cr to that date if we don't,
(06:36):
and it's and it's like, you know, everyone wanting to
get home to their families at Christmas, and it's like
how they put pressure on people to vote, thinks. So
that's that's another nice thing about this bill going into
next year.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I saw a senator soon also was saying, uh, yeah,
like somebody one of the one of the uh you know,
the media ask him about will you guys then do
what you're saying, which is, you know, you guys will
will take a vote or you you will sit down
and negotiate, or he'll take and he goes, I don't Yeah,
(07:08):
I'm not voting for that at all. I'll just tell
you right now. It was basically yeah, I'm kind of
you know, I'm paraphrasing, but I saw that and just
started laughing, going, yeah, you're going to get that, but
it's not going to probably be the result they're looking for.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Right Well, yeah, senators soon promised to vote. He didn't
promise that he was going to go with members to
actually support it, like, I'll be voting against this, this
this expanded extension of Obamacare. So I wouldn't vote for
that either, And you know, well, what I'll what I
will support is when we actually perform healthcare and empower
(07:43):
families and power markets and do the right association health plans,
health savings accounts pre tax dollars to put away that
you can then use, or making more plans available that
are for like high deductible catastrophic care plans for for families,
which is what what families want. They're much more affordable.
I mean, those are the kind of things I think
we should be supporting, not just extending Obamacare, which, by
(08:04):
the way, everything they told has turned out to be false.
Like you're playing, keep your playing, like your doctor, keep
your doctor. Cremius will go down to Obama. President Obama
said they'll go down on average fifteen hundred dollars. Well, Paul,
that was true. Why do you have to keep subsidizing
because it doesn't work? So what we need is things
that actually work. In a power family.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
We'll be watching tonight. Everybody, the whole country obviously watching
for sure. Congressman Jim Jordan, thanks for jumping on with us. Man, great,
have a great night.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Thanks you two guys.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Think we'll see you man, Yeah, I'm sure this is
It sounds like they're on a mission. They're going to
get this. This is going to get handled tonight, and
I like how you put it. We have enough horsepower
to get this done during this day.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
You know, we're going to have a lot of chin
music trying to save face and make it look like
you were not battered about the hid and shoulders and
I just don't want that to take forever. It's done.
Let's get it done and move on.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Yeah, you all tried, you shoved all in, we called
you're two nine off. You had nothing and we had
four aces. It's that simple, and you lose. That's really
that's the way to quantify this whole thing.
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