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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I've been talking about the incident at the Hilton them
on DC and and the shooting and the confusion, and
my wondering about it was Don Mahalik. It was wonderful
of him to uh to join us for a while
and at least answer some of those questions I had
about the Secret Service. Hang on a second, I'm still
tasting doctor pepper tik TACs after it's been two hours.
I'm still to thank you for giving me this poison.
(00:21):
They're not leaving my mouth. So anyway, welcome they're making
do you still are you still tasting them? I just
have to wonder, you know, how stone do they get
a tic tac to go? Let's make something that tastes
like soda pop. That just that's weird. So anyway, it's
this is a big event, this is a everybody is
(00:43):
talking about it. That's what it comes down too. Uh.
You know, we used to have that phrase all the time,
because it used to be a lot of time people
would everybody would be talking about something. Now there is
so much information out there and the Internet and and
kitten videos and all that crap that that that everybody
thing doesn't really necessarily apply anymore. Accepting cases like this,
(01:04):
and everybody is talking about it, including this guy, Congressman
Jim Jordan, joining us right now on the Legacy Retirement
Groove dot Com phone line. Tell oser, how are you?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I'm doing fine? How are you all doing?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
All right? You get stuck with me and Zach and
Dr Pepper tick taxt today because Mark is off.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
You say, the doctor Pepper tick taxt. I've never heard
of such a thing.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
But yeah, they look they're the color of the Doctor
Pepper can. They're like a dark berg. See they sound
like tictac.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, right there. I know that sound anywhere. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Remember we used to keep him in the pocket, and
everybody in the world had that sound walking. And when
somebody didn't have that sound, you knew they had stinky breath.
It was just a thing. So I have to imagine,
you know, everybody's a buzz today and what's the feeling?
What's the word down there? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I mean I think a couple of thoughts. Uh. You know, First,
I think everyone's is you know that that's just glad
no one got really hurt. I mean, this agent, it
sounds like he's going to recover. And you know, I
think God bless the Secret Service, who, as a president said,
handled this thing so well. And then you know, I
was struck, I said. I did an interview on with
(02:10):
with Maria I said that, But I was also strug
with just the poise and composure of of of the president.
I mean, he's like, I mean, this is you know,
obviously that's not the first time, and and yet it's
just an amazing, amazing ability to handle some of the
you know what what would be like just you know,
the worst situation, toughest situations. But his composure is just
(02:33):
that's why why I'm so glad he's our president. But yeah,
I was. I was impressed by all of that, and uh,
you know what, he's persevered through three assassination attempts and
of course, not to mention all the weaponization and government
against him. He's an amazing human being. And again, I'm
glad he's our president.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I you know, and jd Vance United States Marine Vice
President JD. Vance. I don't think he was scared. He
was definitely caught off guard that hit. The expression on
his face was very surprised. Donald Trump, on the other hand,
said there and he looked like he was filming a
new sopranos. He's like, we're got to have a problem again.
You know, he was just so completely cool. I get
(03:14):
maybe it comes with age. I don't know Conressman, but
that he did he didn't he didn't even blink. And
I don't think people are giving him credit for that.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, I think it's uh, you know, you've President Trump
is just a winner. And you know, if you watch sports,
you know there's certain athletes who are just like, when
it really counts, when the pressure's on, they don't get rattled.
They can they can compete and handle things, handle difficult situations.
And President Trump definitely has that that quality, that character quality,
(03:48):
which again I think serves serves him well, of course,
but it serves our country well. And you know, you
see just certain I relate the athletes, but I'm certain
business and everywhere else. But he President Trump has it
and he's able to just cope under pressure, and he's
very good at it. And I think I think the
whole country sees that. Even the people who you know,
(04:10):
even the left, the crazies on the left who got
trumped Arrangement Center, I think deep down he really pressed them.
They would they would they would say that and see
that as well.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah, I mean, even you know, people I didn't expect
it from today did say some decent things on social media,
Springsteen being one of them. I was glad to see that.
I was a little critical of former President Obama and
his he took the Twitter immediately to h he was
very thankful that our democracy and the Secret Service and
blah blah blah. I would think a former president, the
(04:40):
first thing you'd want to express is I'm glad the
current president is okay, but he didn't do that. You're
you're kind of I don't know. I think people are
are kind of showing their stripes, maybe more than they
they have in the past, and maybe even more than
they want to because they reacted so quickly to something
like that, And I don't maybe over all that benefits
us to see people are really thinking.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
You know, I said this sessualy as well, but I
don't think this should be lost on anyone that it's
interesting the week that we have the third assassination attempt
on President Trump's life is also the week we learned
that this this entity, the Southern Probably Law Center, that
put themselves out there as the standard on evaluating hate
and hate groups in our country was actually out there
(05:24):
supporting hate, promoting hate, the very in supporting these groups
that they were supposed to be fighting against. They were
paying upwards of like three million dollars to these quote
informants who were in these these crazy groups out there
saying all kinds and doing all kinds of just ridiculous
wrong things. So I think, you know, the Southern probably
(05:45):
Law Center is they set themselves up as the standard
for evaluating who was who was a hate group, and
who was an extremist group, and who wasn't. And they
said Moms for Liberty was a hate group, the Family
Research Council was an extremist group. And yet we find
out they were running some scam and actually promoting the
very hate that they were supposed to be fighting against.
And that we learned that and they get indicted the
(06:06):
same week that we see this crazy and terrible thing happened.
I think it just underscores this division that's out there,
and there are certain groups that were promoting dividing our
country and making money off of it for goodness sake,
all while while portraying themselves as you know, this fighting
the good fight. So I think I think that's an
important thing for us to understand, and.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I think them as a source, honestly, is one of
the things that, especially with young minds, that gets them
to go to that radical liberalism. It's the Southern Poverty
Law Center, for God's sake. Although I disagreed with Jesse
Jackson on a great deal his affiliation, Andrew Young same thing.
Even Jimmy Carter, I believe did some work with them.
And then we find out the indictments there, we find
(06:48):
out that they have paid for these things up to
and including the racist bs in Charlottesville that got people
call on Donald Trump a racist to begin with, because
everybody loved him.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah, they used that all the time. That was the
key element of the Democrats campaign for good to take
and it was garbage.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I'm I'm sad that they have tarnished the name of
that organization and what it could have been and should
have been and probably started out to be in the
name of in the name of just crooked political bias actions.
That's that's a sad, sad thing.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
And the the the other thing I point out is
if you remember the now somewhat famous memorandum from the
Richmond FBI Field Office where they said if you're a
pro life Catholic, you know, they labeled you an extremist.
They cite the Southern Poverty Law Center in that memo,
that ridiculous memo cites this organization that we now know
(07:39):
was running a scam and was promoting hate while they
said they were, you know, fighting against it. It's like that,
that is how bad they were. In the Biden administration
used the Southern Poverty Law Center. They were using them
to help train some of their prosecutors in their Justice department.
Like you got, you can't make this stuff up. So yeah,
this is this is a serious stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
You know, we were talking too about the people immediately
went to the ballroom, the White House ballroom, and this
is the reason why we need a White House ballroom.
So we've got to secure And I got to think,
and you know, Secret Service, I don't even know how
it happened that the Secret Service was tasked with protecting
the president. They were created for for Treasury issues. And
(08:21):
is it is it out of the question Congressman that
we uh, maybe we we put this on the table
and start discussing a elite unit that is there specifically
to do absolutely nothing but to protect president Vice President
of the United States.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Well, you know, I don't know. Maybe I actually think
the Secret Service, base on what the President said, did
did an amazing job because you know, like I said,
no one was really hurt except the one agent, and
he's gonna expect to make a pull recovery. They had
this guy tackled him down within you know, just a
really short period of time. I got a quick briefing
(08:59):
from ahead of the Secret Service. He briefed the ranking member,
mister Raskin, and then he also briefed us, and you know,
he talked about what they had done that they had
this three different uh three different levels to the to
the with the mag magnetometer's checkpoint, and then you had
to go downstairs and stuff before the ballroom. So they
it was like seventy yards. I guess it was a
(09:22):
pretty uh pretty you know, good distance between where the
magnetometer checkpoint was and where the president was sitting and
so some of the things that they do, and he
kind of walked us through some of that. So yeah,
I think I think the Sean Current, who's head of
the Secret Service, I think they did a nice job.
But there's you know, maybe there's should be talking either
three in the last year and a half for goodness sake,
(09:45):
maybe maybe you do need something additional as well. And
I think we're open to whatever is going to protect
the commander in chief, protect the president.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I don't think they did a terrible job, but I
was just you know, the protocols and the orders, and
as Don Mahlick was telling me earlier, it's not an
umbrella agency. JD. Vans has his own team that makes
their own strategy, the president has his own and so forth.
I don't know that that was especially helpful because, frankly,
it bothered me to see the vice president hauled off
stage while President Trump still sat there. That just president
(10:15):
the president should be the priority party affiliation, notwithstanding whoever
is president, that should be the top priority. In my mind.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, that's that's that's the guy we liked, this president.
That's going to make commander chief. And I think you're right, give.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Me something good before we have to say goodbye. Have
you had a Have you had a good week aside
from this nonsense?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
This weekend in DC, yeah, I was helping some some candidates,
trying to make you know, trying to do everything we
canidate help us when the midterms, I was helping some
candidates actually out of out of state. I was in
Florida and Texas, but back in DC. And it'll be
all spent some time in Ohio and Indiana this coming weekend.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
So looking forward to that, all right, Well, he picked
a bad weekend to come up. The weather is just
not cooperating, just so you know, Yeah, it's been beautiful
so many eighty degree days and then suddenly we're back
to uh highs in the fifties and sixties and rain
and storms and blah blah blah. So yeah, see Ohio
from inside your house, just look out the wind God
Jim Jordan, Sir, having a wonderful afternoon. Thanks very much
(11:13):
for your time this afternoon.
I've been talking about the incident at the Hilton them
on DC and and the shooting and the confusion, and
my wondering about it was Don Mahalik. It was wonderful
of him to uh to join us for a while
and at least answer some of those questions I had
about the Secret Service. Hang on a second, I'm still
tasting doctor pepper tik TACs after it's been two hours.
I'm still to thank you for giving me this poison.
(00:21):
They're not leaving my mouth. So anyway, welcome they're making
do you still are you still tasting them? I just
have to wonder, you know, how stone do they get
a tic tac to go? Let's make something that tastes
like soda pop. That just that's weird. So anyway, it's
this is a big event, this is a everybody is
(00:43):
talking about it. That's what it comes down too. Uh.
You know, we used to have that phrase all the time,
because it used to be a lot of time people
would everybody would be talking about something. Now there is
so much information out there and the Internet and and
kitten videos and all that crap that that that everybody
thing doesn't really necessarily apply anymore. Accepting cases like this,
(01:04):
and everybody is talking about it, including this guy, Congressman
Jim Jordan, joining us right now on the Legacy Retirement
Groove dot Com phone line. Tell oser, how are you?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I'm doing fine? How are you all doing?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
All right? You get stuck with me and Zach and
Dr Pepper tick taxt today because Mark is off.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
You say, the doctor Pepper tick taxt. I've never heard
of such a thing.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
But yeah, they look they're the color of the Doctor
Pepper can. They're like a dark berg. See they sound
like tictac.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, right there. I know that sound anywhere. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Remember we used to keep him in the pocket, and
everybody in the world had that sound walking. And when
somebody didn't have that sound, you knew they had stinky breath.
It was just a thing. So I have to imagine,
you know, everybody's a buzz today and what's the feeling?
What's the word down there? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I mean I think a couple of thoughts. Uh. You know, First,
I think everyone's is you know that that's just glad
no one got really hurt. I mean, this agent, it
sounds like he's going to recover. And you know, I
think God bless the Secret Service, who, as a president said,
handled this thing so well. And then you know, I
was struck, I said. I did an interview on with
(02:10):
with Maria I said that, But I was also strug
with just the poise and composure of of of the president.
I mean, he's like, I mean, this is you know,
obviously that's not the first time, and and yet it's
just an amazing, amazing ability to handle some of the
you know what what would be like just you know,
the worst situation, toughest situations. But his composure is just
(02:33):
that's why why I'm so glad he's our president. But yeah,
I was. I was impressed by all of that, and uh,
you know what, he's persevered through three assassination attempts and
of course, not to mention all the weaponization and government
against him. He's an amazing human being. And again, I'm
glad he's our president.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I you know, and jd Vance United States Marine Vice
President JD. Vance. I don't think he was scared. He
was definitely caught off guard that hit. The expression on
his face was very surprised. Donald Trump, on the other hand,
said there and he looked like he was filming a
new sopranos. He's like, we're got to have a problem again.
You know, he was just so completely cool. I get
(03:14):
maybe it comes with age. I don't know Conressman, but
that he did he didn't he didn't even blink. And
I don't think people are giving him credit for that.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, I think it's uh, you know, you've President Trump
is just a winner. And you know, if you watch sports,
you know there's certain athletes who are just like, when
it really counts, when the pressure's on, they don't get rattled.
They can they can compete and handle things, handle difficult situations.
And President Trump definitely has that that quality, that character quality,
(03:48):
which again I think serves serves him well, of course,
but it serves our country well. And you know, you
see just certain I relate the athletes, but I'm certain
business and everywhere else. But he President Trump has it
and he's able to just cope under pressure, and he's
very good at it. And I think I think the
whole country sees that. Even the people who you know,
(04:10):
even the left, the crazies on the left who got
trumped Arrangement Center, I think deep down he really pressed them.
They would they would they would say that and see
that as well.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah, I mean, even you know, people I didn't expect
it from today did say some decent things on social media,
Springsteen being one of them. I was glad to see that.
I was a little critical of former President Obama and
his he took the Twitter immediately to h he was
very thankful that our democracy and the Secret Service and
blah blah blah. I would think a former president, the
(04:40):
first thing you'd want to express is I'm glad the
current president is okay, but he didn't do that. You're
you're kind of I don't know. I think people are
are kind of showing their stripes, maybe more than they
they have in the past, and maybe even more than
they want to because they reacted so quickly to something
like that, And I don't maybe over all that benefits
us to see people are really thinking.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
You know, I said this sessualy as well, but I
don't think this should be lost on anyone that it's
interesting the week that we have the third assassination attempt
on President Trump's life is also the week we learned
that this this entity, the Southern Probably Law Center, that
put themselves out there as the standard on evaluating hate
and hate groups in our country was actually out there
(05:24):
supporting hate, promoting hate, the very in supporting these groups
that they were supposed to be fighting against. They were
paying upwards of like three million dollars to these quote
informants who were in these these crazy groups out there
saying all kinds and doing all kinds of just ridiculous
wrong things. So I think, you know, the Southern probably
(05:45):
Law Center is they set themselves up as the standard
for evaluating who was who was a hate group, and
who was an extremist group, and who wasn't. And they
said Moms for Liberty was a hate group, the Family
Research Council was an extremist group. And yet we find
out they were running some scam and actually promoting the
very hate that they were supposed to be fighting against.
And that we learned that and they get indicted the
(06:06):
same week that we see this crazy and terrible thing happened.
I think it just underscores this division that's out there,
and there are certain groups that were promoting dividing our
country and making money off of it for goodness sake,
all while while portraying themselves as you know, this fighting
the good fight. So I think I think that's an
important thing for us to understand, and.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I think them as a source, honestly, is one of
the things that, especially with young minds, that gets them
to go to that radical liberalism. It's the Southern Poverty
Law Center, for God's sake. Although I disagreed with Jesse
Jackson on a great deal his affiliation, Andrew Young same thing.
Even Jimmy Carter, I believe did some work with them.
And then we find out the indictments there, we find
(06:48):
out that they have paid for these things up to
and including the racist bs in Charlottesville that got people
call on Donald Trump a racist to begin with, because
everybody loved him.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah, they used that all the time. That was the
key element of the Democrats campaign for good to take
and it was garbage.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I'm I'm sad that they have tarnished the name of
that organization and what it could have been and should
have been and probably started out to be in the
name of in the name of just crooked political bias actions.
That's that's a sad, sad thing.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
And the the the other thing I point out is
if you remember the now somewhat famous memorandum from the
Richmond FBI Field Office where they said if you're a
pro life Catholic, you know, they labeled you an extremist.
They cite the Southern Poverty Law Center in that memo,
that ridiculous memo cites this organization that we now know
(07:39):
was running a scam and was promoting hate while they
said they were, you know, fighting against it. It's like that,
that is how bad they were. In the Biden administration
used the Southern Poverty Law Center. They were using them
to help train some of their prosecutors in their Justice department.
Like you got, you can't make this stuff up. So yeah,
this is this is a serious stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
You know, we were talking too about the people immediately
went to the ballroom, the White House ballroom, and this
is the reason why we need a White House ballroom.
So we've got to secure And I got to think,
and you know, Secret Service, I don't even know how
it happened that the Secret Service was tasked with protecting
the president. They were created for for Treasury issues. And
(08:21):
is it is it out of the question Congressman that
we uh, maybe we we put this on the table
and start discussing a elite unit that is there specifically
to do absolutely nothing but to protect president Vice President
of the United States.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Well, you know, I don't know. Maybe I actually think
the Secret Service, base on what the President said, did
did an amazing job because you know, like I said,
no one was really hurt except the one agent, and
he's gonna expect to make a pull recovery. They had
this guy tackled him down within you know, just a
really short period of time. I got a quick briefing
(08:59):
from ahead of the Secret Service. He briefed the ranking member,
mister Raskin, and then he also briefed us, and you know,
he talked about what they had done that they had
this three different uh three different levels to the to
the with the mag magnetometer's checkpoint, and then you had
to go downstairs and stuff before the ballroom. So they
it was like seventy yards. I guess it was a
(09:22):
pretty uh pretty you know, good distance between where the
magnetometer checkpoint was and where the president was sitting and
so some of the things that they do, and he
kind of walked us through some of that. So yeah,
I think I think the Sean Current, who's head of
the Secret Service, I think they did a nice job.
But there's you know, maybe there's should be talking either
three in the last year and a half for goodness sake,
(09:45):
maybe maybe you do need something additional as well. And
I think we're open to whatever is going to protect
the commander in chief, protect the president.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I don't think they did a terrible job, but I
was just you know, the protocols and the orders, and
as Don Mahlick was telling me earlier, it's not an
umbrella agency. JD. Vans has his own team that makes
their own strategy, the president has his own and so forth.
I don't know that that was especially helpful because, frankly,
it bothered me to see the vice president hauled off
stage while President Trump still sat there. That just president
(10:15):
the president should be the priority party affiliation, notwithstanding whoever
is president, that should be the top priority. In my mind.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, that's that's that's the guy we liked, this president.
That's going to make commander chief. And I think you're right, give.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Me something good before we have to say goodbye. Have
you had a Have you had a good week aside
from this nonsense?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
This weekend in DC, yeah, I was helping some some candidates,
trying to make you know, trying to do everything we
canidate help us when the midterms, I was helping some
candidates actually out of out of state. I was in
Florida and Texas, but back in DC. And it'll be
all spent some time in Ohio and Indiana this coming weekend.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
So looking forward to that, all right, Well, he picked
a bad weekend to come up. The weather is just
not cooperating, just so you know, Yeah, it's been beautiful
so many eighty degree days and then suddenly we're back
to uh highs in the fifties and sixties and rain
and storms and blah blah blah. So yeah, see Ohio
from inside your house, just look out the wind God
Jim Jordan, Sir, having a wonderful afternoon. Thanks very much
(11:13):
for your time this afternoon.
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