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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So last night Columbus police officers wounded and the suspect
is deceased. There was an attempted traffic stop in the
Linden area and that turned into gunfire.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
And he's joining us now.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Brian Steele, FOP President, Brian, thanks very much for jumping
on with us today.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
And I know it's been like kind of just business.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
The last couple of times that we've spoken to you,
and this one is a well, it's a sad situation,
no question about that. But one of our own gets shot.
And I saw the fact that there were some other
officers that they'd be thanks to their quick action.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
This saved this officer last night more than likely.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Correct.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
Yeah, that's one hundred percent, guys. And let's be clear,
last night proves exactly what I've been saying this whole time.
Policing is a dangerous job and officers have become targets.
Now it's not lost to me that I'm discussing this
at the same time one of our members is on
trial for murder for virtually the same scenario, which is
confronting an armed suspect.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
So last night, take us through what you know how
this went down, so on and so forth, because we
know just from you know, being connected and backing the
blue and having a lot of friends who are in
law enforcement. Same with Chuck, that traffic stops and what
the domestic those are the two that are. It's like

(01:25):
a heightened sense of awareness, not that officers are ever
having a lower sense of awareness, but the traffic stop,
you just never they can go from zero to one
hundred miles an hour in less than a second. And
that's clearly what happened here. But take us through this
situation and this stop last night.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Yeah, so the gist of it was two officers on
routine patrol. They saw an individual. They had a hunge,
They had a read a little suspicion that hey, maybe
we should stop this car. Something kind of appears to
be a little off in the individual's behavior. Maybe it's
how he looked at him, maybe it's how he looked away,
not a but these are all hunters' reasonal suspicions. The
officer said, Okay, we're gonna we're gonna stop this car

(02:05):
for this mino violation. We just have a hunch through
something and inkling something off. The individual failed to stop,
ignored their commands. We call it dipped to the curb,
got out and took off. Very similar to the deputy
Meat trial. Very similar scenario that individual. The officer lost
sight of them, Another officer found them aired Hey, we

(02:26):
have them. Officers walked up to them. They're not walked
up with guns guns blazing, because they really have a
minor clim at this point they stop. You know, hey,
hold up a second. In a split second, he fires
multiple shots, hitting our officer twice before we return fire.

Speaker 5 (02:43):
Were there multiple trigger pulls involved there, Brian? Or do
you have a glock switch on the weapon?

Speaker 4 (02:48):
I don't know what he had. I don't know anything
of that time. I just know he was able to
fire multiple, multiple rounds. And listen. The only difference between
this case and the meadcase is in the Mead case,
he faced an armed individual and he got to drop
on him and he was able to shoot and kill him.
On this case, unfortunately, the suspect got to drop on
one of the officers and it was able to hit him.

(03:10):
You have a fraction of a second to make a decision.
Every officer out there, they know their one runaway from
being indicted for murder in this town. They know their
one runaway from having their thigh and they're growing cracked
open in oar, almost dying. The officer's hitting the femoral artery.
That officer would have been dead. He would have bled
out in one to two minutes had it not been

(03:31):
for the quick reaction of stopping the threat, providing rendering
aid tourniquet, and scooping him, rushing them straight to the
angels at Grant, and we'd be burying an officer.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
Did somebody have him? By the way I criticize often,
let me commend Elam Bryant, Chief Bryant for sounding like
a cops cop last night. I truly appreciate the way
she took this on. But there seemed to be people
that had a problem with police transporting this officer as
opposed to waiting on an ambulance. Did did somebody actually
give them some gen music? And is so? Who do
I tell to shut up?

Speaker 4 (04:03):
So listen? The officers have to make a second, a
second second. We have amazing paramedics. Are paramedics, they are
true heroes, they are true angels. The officers recognize that
this is so bad, he's losing so much blood every
second count. They made the decision to throw him in
that cruiser, and officer literally took his knee and stuck
it in his groin and put the weight on top

(04:25):
of him to try to shut off that artery, and
they rush there. Now, listen, there was some bad communication.
Bad communication maybe on our side. It looks like at
the end of the day, CFD was not aware that
we took our officer to the hospital and then they're
both laying next to each other in emergency room. That
should not happen. It was a mistake. Nobody's mad at anybody.

(04:47):
These things happened. We'll just learn from it.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
You're talking about the officer and the suspect laying next
to each other in the emergency room.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
Correct, that's right.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Generally doesn't happen. We have multiple trauma hospitals all equal distance.
It's no less care when you go one to one
hospital the other to the other. That's generally how we
do things.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
So we're talking to FFP President Brian Steele, and so
in a situation like last night, because other officer, it
was an officer that transported him, that could have been
the situation why they ended up at the same one.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
It sounds like to me.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Possibly that's right, That's exactly what it is. It was
just confusing, chaotic. So just remember when an officer uses,
when officer stops a threat, oftentimes people rush to judgment
and they criticis we criticize, we pushed this narrative, this
false narrative racism. When an officer gets shot, some suddenly
everybody understands, all elected officials, everybody supports your cup. It's

(05:42):
almost like, what do we have to get shot first?
That's not how this works. Again, this case is no
different than the meadcase. We confronted somebody with a gun,
we fired and stopped a threat.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
The bottom line here is with regard to both of them,
because I saw on the news too, Brian, that you know,
and I saw you this morning the clip, and that's
actually when you had reached out.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
I was getting ready literally to text you because I
saw this whole thing, and I was traveling last night,
I got back late and from out of town, and
so when I saw this whole thing kind of you know,
explode last night and then into today, I thought, man,
I got a I wanted to get you on so
you could talk about it. But anyway back to that,
this actual situation they they kind of spot I don't

(06:25):
know if spotlight is the word, but they they did
mention that they were both at the same hospital, and
that's not typically something that happens. And clearly, the way
this is being explained now, the fact that you know,
it's not you know, CFD, it's not a paramedic, it's
not a squad that's taking the officer who was shot
into the hospital. In a situation like that, they probably

(06:48):
would be avoiding each other. But the bottom line is
the fact that if people are going to get whatever
about an officer took him, this was about seconds matter.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Like you kind of pointed out.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
I saw your one quote that's saying the massive blood loss,
every second counts, and the fact that they did this
it ended up saving his life, and that kind of
that supersedes every other type of you know, chain of
command or protocol or whatever I would think that they
would have to follow here, It's about saving the officer's
life at that point.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
Yeah, And I can tell you there's times we did
this for citizens. It's the same thing. I could tell
you a time in my career where someone was shot.
A citizen was shot two blocks away from OSU East
now again, we have a choice to make. Do we
wait for the ambulance, so we wait for the medics,
which are super fast response time, or when every second matters.
We've hat officers throw individuals that have been shot, suspects

(07:42):
sup and shot, they've thrown in the car and took
them straight to the hospital. We want to get them
to the hospital as fast as we can.

Speaker 5 (07:49):
Bright here's the uncomfortable question. I still have not seen
the identity of this this person that was involved in
the shooting. Why are we not seeing that?

Speaker 4 (07:58):
Yeah, because you know what, it doesn't fit the narrative.
It was a black mail. It was white officers and
a blackmail. And again, had those officers not got shot,
are are are our bottom feeding civil rights attorneys in
town or activists would be screaming racism because our officer
got shot. Apparently that we take that false narrative out.
Here's the reality, Chuck, It's never racism. Every one of
these situations, the common denominator is a suspect had a gun.

(08:21):
A suspect either refused to abate commands, a suspect pointed
a gun, or a suspect fired a gun. And as
Mayor Coleman said, you point a gun at our officers,
we will shoot you.

Speaker 5 (08:33):
What do you say after that. I'm glad you just
said it's straight out. That's why I like you so.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Much, one hundred percent. I love that You're just look,
it's no, it's no frills, man, it is.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
What it is.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
And and you just called you call balls and strikes, Brian,
And that's what it's about.

Speaker 5 (08:50):
You point a gun at somebody. Man, I don't care
if you look like my mother. You point a gun
at me, I'm shooting you. Yeah, And that's all. It
doesn't matter what you look like. That The threat is
the threat, period.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
So the officer sounds like it's going to be okay.
Most likely, Brian.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
He was. Luckily they were able to stop the blood
loss and they were able to go there repair the artery.
I went to the hospital. I put my hand on
the officer's cheek. I said, brother, we got you right.
Given them hope. He was so cold and so pale,
and we thought, man, this is not good. But let
me tell you about the character of our police officers
are members. I'm given credit for rendering aid to the officer.

(09:29):
The officers immediately rendered aid to the suspect, the suspect
that tried to kill them. They didn't ask questions. They
didn't care he was white, they didn't care he was black.
They didn't carry tried to murder our officer. They rendered
aid and did the best they could for him, and
unfortunately he lost his life. At the end of the day,
we want these bad guys standing in front of a
judge and getting locked up.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
And then as far as former Deputy Mead, the trial
is continuing today, do you have is there anything to
report on that other than like we've said a couple
of different times, it's going to be the same information
because no new information has become available, So it's going
to be just hearing everything that we kind of already

(10:12):
heard in this in this trial, it's.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
The same cloud show. It's the same clown show. You
got individuals getting upstand some of these individuals drinking the
Columbus kool aid, as I like to call it. They're
just they're they're they're testifying that they saw nothing. We're
bringing up thirty five people who saw nothing. There was
two people on that incident, mister Goodson and Deputy Meat. Unfortunately,
mister Goodson is not here to tell his side of
the story. He's not here because he poured a gun

(10:37):
out a cop and he got shot and that's tragic.
But the onus is on him, not the officer who
did his job and went home.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
A live I can't believe.

Speaker 5 (10:45):
Did you see they remove some idiot woman from that
She was doing selfies in the court.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Where Jason's Yes, No, I didn't know that.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
Yes, taking selfies. Look where I am like, Wow, you
people's is You're not grasping the gravity of what's going
on in this room right now.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
That was just shame.

Speaker 5 (11:00):
It just tells you how people are these days.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
They're still grasping. This is crazy.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
And we want a fair trial. We want a fair
trial for mister Goodson's family. We want a fair trial
for Deputy Meed. We want a fair trial. We want
facts of the case, no prosecutorial misconduct like we had
in the in the Tooy case, and we just want
the cards to fall where they falled.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Also, one quick question to go back to the what
happened last night at the traffic stop? Was that vehicle stolen,
the one that the suspect bailed from.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
I have no I have no evidence or no knowledge
of the stolen I have no evidence for knowledge. If
he was allowed to have a gun, If he was
a fella, I don't know anything about it. If I
was a betting man, I was going to say he
was not on his way to you know, a PCR
church school most likely.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
No, Yeah, you're probably right.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
FLP President Brian Steele, Brian, keep fighting the good fight.
Thank you for all that you do and we appreciate
you coming on with us today.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
Man, thank you for giving me a platform to advocate
for these guys. I appreciate you both absolutely.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Man, thanks appreciate it. Yeah, I know it's.

Speaker 5 (12:01):
Crazy to serve and protect even those that try to
kill you. That's that paints a picture in your mind.
Those officers responded to this. They've got one of their
own is severely wounded, and yet they tried to give
aid to the person that wounded him. That tells you
a lot.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
I gotta tell you, before you put a badge on
your human first and in a situation like that, I
gotta I gotta tell you it takes a special human
being to try to administer aid to somebody who just tried.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
To kill one of your own.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, it really does, but to hear that they did, uh,
that's incredible, it really is. But man, oh man, so
happy to hear this officer is going to be okay.
And the guy that opened fire, well, I guess that's
what happens when you when you shoot at cops.

Speaker 5 (12:50):
It's yeah. I mean, you know, I'm sorry anybody's dead.
I'm sorry that your life led you to make decisions
that ended up in your death. But the fact of
the matter is, like they say, you place to games,
you win stupid prizes.
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