Chicago Insight June 7th 2026

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
With the stray love, letting a lot of crying and
coming home on a Friday, I mugged my haste.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
I never knew a love love love, a love like this,
flut your contour, make you blush like this the friends
on when you hug like this, never on your heads,
touch your bud like this. We adjust like this. If
God's a girl, then if God we trust like this
to be honest love love too. I got so well
my like I'm young, thug too, dumb lungs on, U

(00:32):
spun the hair bun, loose, righting wrongs till they come
with royal teasing public too. Where you at at the
house waited? Watch you're seeing us on the couch with
my favorite saying, uh, I was about to but you
convinced us. Should I decorate the walls or log off
the pin? Trust? Never do late to a meditated on emotion.
No attachments. Even if I push up from my distraction, swimm.

(00:54):
It's in your body, loving on your body, kissing on
your body, crushing on your body. Remember me Iceberg jeans
or the Julie's dunk Worth. You know streets my mother,
goofy what you must got a planing the record in
the I.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Gotta pland of black in the car.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Been missing your body, loving on your body, kissing on
your body, crushing on your body.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
You used to call my phone on a Friday, ain't
n He's been over twice.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
It's been over.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
We've been over. You always called my phone on a Friday,
ain't night. It's been over twice.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
It's been over.

Speaker 5 (01:35):
We've been over. Shout down, stand up, man, and Welcome
to the Chicago Inside your host, Gerald and Ard. This

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show is all about informing you about the institutions as
well as the individuals who are doing extraordinary things in
our cities and communities. Next weekend his Father's Day. This morning,
we'll hear from authors of a new book and praise
of black fathers called My Dad the Man, and we'll
learn about how AI can be used ethically in creating

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the animated short film Roar but first up stories and
praise of black fathers. As a father of both a
daughter and son, I am truly blessed, but there is
a unique relationship fathers have with their daughters. Those relationships
are chronicled in a new book edited by doctor Carold
Adams called My Dad the Man. Black daughters and praise

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of their fathers. And joining us this morning are Doctor Adams,
as well as several of the daughters who pen tributes
to their father's Charmaine Rickett Or is the daughter of
Gus Rickett, who turns one hundred in August. We also
have joining us Yvonne Or, whose father was Delbert or Africa,
who was a move member, as well as Deborah Farmer,

(03:04):
who writes about her father Conrad Brown. Pleasure to have
all of you join us this morning, Doctor Adams. What
was the inspiration for you penning this book?

Speaker 6 (03:14):
The impetus for this book was, of course my relationship
with my own dad that was very pivotal for me
and for the things that I thought that I could
do and become. Further, I did a study sometime ago
on a black women politicians and one of the unexpected
things that came out constantly was this theme of their

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dads and how inspired they were by them and what
they did to make them feel that they could be
and do anything. My title comes from a song from
my father Harra Silver and sung by Leon Thomas, and
it gave me just inspiration the all the time I

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was working on this and the opening standa is if
there was a man who was generous, gracious and good,
it was my dad the man.

Speaker 5 (04:06):
And that, of course is one of my favorite albums.
I could see the picture of his dad from Cape
Verd sitting on a rock there just the album is
just chock full of jazz standards. What have become jazz standards?
I want to commend you on penning this because so
many times fathers, particularly black fathers, are always described in

(04:32):
the negative fashion or missing in action. In many cases
they are missing.

Speaker 6 (04:37):
But I guess what, nothing is further from the truth
because the data shows that black dad spend more time
with their children than any other demographic.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
So you have to.

Speaker 6 (04:48):
Wonder why constantly this anti this negative theme is what
is repeated over and over. One of the first things
I wrote before I ever thought about putting TOG together
this anthology was a piece for my dad that was
called Papa was not a rolling stone, no rolling stone, He.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Was a rock.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
And speaking about rocks, let's start with you, Deborah, in
terms of what did you say in your essay, in
your chapter about your father that you want the world
to know.

Speaker 7 (05:22):
I think when you look at the context of my
dad's story being an immigrant from Barbados, just the resilience
that he had to withstand all the you know challenges
of where he you know, resided, which was you know,
at that point he moved to New York and then
to Chicago. I just want people to know that, you know,

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the strength of the man to be able to move
from a move into a foreign land and be able
to you know, build wealth, build a family, build a
legacy is attainable. You know, with my dad, all things
were possible. There was nothing that you know, he would
tell me that I could not do. And so just

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in the sense of being able to beat the odds,
you know, one thing that he would oftentimes say, and
we quote this from Chryluchisholm, is you know, don't sit
on the sidelines and complain, you know, be.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
A part of the solution. What can you do to
make a difference.

Speaker 7 (06:18):
I just was so excited when doctor Carrol reached out
about this opportunity to be able to talk about my
dad in this way and then gratefully my dad's still
living and to be able to provide him his roses
while he's still alive.

Speaker 5 (06:31):
What do you think is unique to the Barbadian experience
that you received from your father.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
One thing was really clear was education.

Speaker 7 (06:41):
You know, Barbados has a free education system, probably one
of the highest literacy rates in the world, and for him,
it was making certain that you got a good education.
Another thing that I think that really was that stood
out was business. You know, being in a position to

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work for yourself, as he would say, you know, don't
work for mister Charlie, right, And.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
So that really stands out for me for my dad.

Speaker 7 (07:10):
My dad came again from Barbados with you know, not
much and you know, started working and then you know,
built a business. And so when I went to college,
you know, I had a radio and television background.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
My dad was not happy about that.

Speaker 7 (07:24):
He wanted me to get an accountant degree, you know,
and so he would oftentimes say, you know, a fast
penny can outrun a slow dollar any day. And so
being in a position to make your own money and
not be reliant on mister Charlie was something that echoed
through all of our conversations.

Speaker 6 (07:41):
Relying on mister Charlie was something that I heard often
as well, that you should always have your own business.
That my father had a quote regular job and it
was a good one. But he always had businesses because
he said, you cannot put yourself where you are totally
relaud on demand to get He.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
Was a teskege.

Speaker 6 (08:03):
Yeah, that was part of their mischief. You better have
your own. I have never just had a job. I've
always had a.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
Business some side.

Speaker 5 (08:12):
Well, one person who's an author in the book knows
something about business because it was her father as well
as her mother that created one of the best places
to go for fried chicken. And I'm talking about Uncle
Remus fried chicken is Charmaine. Charmaine talked to me about

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what did you learn not only from a business aspect,
but other worldly ideas and traditions from your father.

Speaker 6 (08:41):
You know.

Speaker 8 (08:41):
I want to first go back to something doctor Adams
said about the myth that fathers are absent. Most people
will look and see my dad was not present, you know,
a lot physically in my life, you know, because he
was out working and providing. You know, by the time
I was born, it was twelve of us, so I
was the last of twelve. So my dad, you know,
did not really have time to you know, take me

(09:03):
to school or if I was in a sport or
you know, whatever activities I did, but I never felt
you know, I never grew up feeling like, oh, my
dad is not there, or my dad.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
You know, didn't love me.

Speaker 8 (09:15):
So you know, I did grow up. I had the
greatest privilege of growing up watching my dad be an entrepreneur,
watching my dad, you know, develop a work ethic that
is in me, and you know, watching my dad, you know,
just extend to the community and you know be that
you know that that that go to for everyone. So

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you know, I I he too, you know, grew up working.
You know, when he first came to Chicago, you know,
homeless a couple of times, but finally, you know, he
had a week, as we call, quote unquote a good job.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
You know, he worked for the city.

Speaker 8 (09:47):
Imagine you know, in the forties and the fifties working
for the city at Chicago as a janitor. So that
was a good job. However, he also you know, remembered
the struggles here my mom, you know, back in you know, Mississippi,
of not having and you know that that need for him.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
To be a.

Speaker 8 (10:07):
Change in the community. That's what led him, you know,
during the unrest and during the movement, and he said,
I was just watching TV and whoever the president was.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
Lendon Johnson said, if you want.

Speaker 8 (10:18):
To create a job, you know, be a job, be
an entrepreneur. He didn't know it was start for that.
He was just like, Oh, I can help my other
you know, fellow people that came from Mississippi get you know,
I become an entrepreneur. So he became an entrepreneur, knowing
nothing about it except that it's what I need to
do to provide to have more so I would not
have to depend on mister Charlie.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
We talked about passing on in terms of a business legacy,
but there's also political legacy here and a von He
talked about the passing on of a business tradition or legacy,
but there's also the passing on in terms of a
political commitment, and that is indicative of Yvonne or, whose father,

(11:02):
Delbert or Africa, was a member of the move movement
in Philadelphia. Yvonne, what would you say you learned most
from your father?

Speaker 9 (11:11):
What I learned most from my dad is resiliency. Through
forty two years of being a political prisoner, my dad
still figured out a way to parents to champion me,
to raise me, and to support me. And as a
member of the move organization first and foremost social justice.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
And it is.

Speaker 9 (11:32):
Ironic hearing from the other authors about mister Charlie because
my dad was also honorably discharged from the Air Force,
so he had firsthand knowledge of mister Jolly and came
out letting us know that you have to have your
own So I actually come from five generations of entrepreneurship
and that resiliency stay true to the end of his

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days after he gained his freedom in twenty twenty.

Speaker 5 (11:59):
But the reality is is that he gained his freedom
in twenty twenty, but he only ended up living a
really short time after that.

Speaker 9 (12:07):
So a lot of how we live in our family
is to thrive. We're beyond surviving. We like to thrive.
And so though he had a short six months of freedom,
he died from prostate cancer that had spread, unfortunately to
other parts of his body. Never have I ever seen
a more vibrant, thriving, seventy four year old man taking

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on so much of the newness of the world versus
when he became incarcerated in nineteen seventy nine, mastering the
iPhone and the apps like no other and constantly facetiming
me doing interviews across the globe until he was just
too ill to travel, and so those six months were

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they were golden too us.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
Carol, what do you hope readers get from this? And
all of the stories are exceptional, but some of the
others that you want to highlight, I.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Think there's messaging for different segments.

Speaker 6 (13:06):
I think I want the world to know about the
magic of black fathers, what they had to endure and
still did so and protected us, okay, And I think
the protective factor is so significant here because it's rarely discussed.
I want young fathers to be to see examples and

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to see what it means. I want us to recognize
and honor all the things that they had to overcome
to be the kind of dads they were. The fact
that people need these lessons even now, and really part
of the back of my mind as a teacher, I
want to do a curriculum and say, listen, these are
things you should be aware of, these are things you

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should do. Here are some things that will make your
daughter feel a certain way. And I'm very encouraged because
I've been studying lyrics and because I put together a
Black Dad's playlist. It's very positive that we're going to
be giving out and mentioned at the back of the book.
But some of the newer artists, the young rappers and everything,
have done songs about their daughters and about how daughters

(14:13):
change their lives made them think differently about who they
should be and how they should act, and how they
should treat women in general once.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
They have their own daughter. You know, it's very interesting.
They say it right out louds and lives.

Speaker 6 (14:28):
Look, don't go out with guys that I like I
used to be because I'm different now because of you.

Speaker 5 (14:34):
Well, we know that when it comes to mothers, in
praise of black mothers, there are so many songs that
instantly come to mind, but exactly when it comes to
black fathers. Of course, we have the jazz standard, and
most people know the instrumental version of song for my Father.

Speaker 6 (14:54):
They don't hear the beautiful And I want to hasten
to say, Daryl, that we all great moms. But people
brag about the moms all the time. You hear about
the moms all the time. The dads are unsung, and
we want to make sure that the voices I heard
and appreciated and that they hear us appreciate them.

Speaker 5 (15:15):
On the other song I could think of that comes
immediately to mind as patches. In terms of patches, I'm
depending on you, son. I tried to do my bestess
up to you to do the rest. Go to Deborah first,
and then we're gonna hear from Charmain and then Yvaughn.
What do you feel should be the major takeaway from

(15:36):
the unique story of your father, Deborah?

Speaker 7 (15:39):
I think kaind of back what Charmain said. I think
most men are in a position to serve, protect, provide,
and you assume that they're doing those things absent of
being present. And my dad did all those things, but
he was still very present, you know. I say my
heels are as high as my stand because of my dad,

(16:02):
you know. And so when any move that I make,
you know, relation wise or with the you know, business
or work, I think of my dad and to the
end of him providing and being you know, present. He
wasn't oftentimes in the home, actually wasn't for the majority
of the time, but it still did not make me
believe that he was absent. He was very present because

(16:23):
he was providing. And I think, you know, to the
end of being in a position to just share that
we need to, as doctor Carroll is mentioning, reverse the narrative.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
You know, I'm currently in the South. I'm in Georgia,
and I will tell you, you.

Speaker 7 (16:39):
Know, the majority of these guys out here, they have
full custody of their kids. I don't know what's happening
with the moms you know these days, but these.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
Brothers are totally stepping up.

Speaker 7 (16:50):
And so I think we, you know, we find ourselves
in a great position here to change the narrative. And
I'm excited to be a part of this. I think
it's fantastic. I think we need to continue to for
those fathers that I think one thing that stands out
the doctor just mentioned is putting together a handbook or
tool kit, because I remember my mom would say, you know,
I didn't get a handbook, you know, when we would

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have our issues.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
You know, I didn't get, you know, someone to sit
down and talk to me.

Speaker 7 (17:16):
And so to be able to provide those that are
even interested in learning how they can be better and
do better, this is magnificent.

Speaker 6 (17:22):
I'm excited communication with some of these projects where they
are working with young fathers about this and about making
books available to them and so forth.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
So you're right, We're right on track there.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
Charmaine, What do you hope is the big takeaway from
your section?

Speaker 8 (17:40):
The big takeaway for me from my section was for
those who you know, have the time you know, with
their their fathers who maybe didn't you know, when they
were younger, and your father is still here. I think
what it was so important, you know when I wrote
that part about my father not being phasically present, but

(18:01):
the impact that he has made, the spiritual impact, the
economic impact, uh, just the supportive impact he has made
from him building is not something that I take lightly
and I am forever grateful because I am sensitive to
some people are scarred you know, oh my dad wasn't around.

(18:22):
Oh my dad didn't you know, take me to lunch
or anything like that. However, if if they're leaving and
building a legacy, that's so much more powerful, that lasts
so much longer in me than the moment of you know,
you know, my dad wasn't a guy. You know, he
didn't remember my birthday. You know, it wasn't like he's

(18:42):
like I don't remember, you know, he didn't you know,
I didn't have birthday parties. You know, I didn't have
what I think people value and they think that it's
the impact of them growing up. And I don't take
that away, you know, if that's what it takes for you,
I just appreciate my father showing me from Afar what

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it is like to have a spirit of excellence, what
is like to be resilient, what is like to fall
down and get up and keep trying again. So my
biggest takeaway is, if your father was not there physically,
don't beat him up. Take the impact of the spiritual
what he left and the impact of the my father

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loved me from Afar, and now I get to give
it all back to him, you know.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
And he's still good.

Speaker 8 (19:31):
You know, he's still doing his push ups, you know,
but at one hundred. You know, sometimes he works our
nerves more than we work his nerves.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
Yvonne, if your father was.

Speaker 9 (19:39):
Here for me, for me, it is the importance of
the commitment of holding on to your beliefs and having values.
It's resilience, and you know, it's also the human cost
of what happens when you're having political conflict and state power.
A lot of times we see social as from a

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different lens. Since the murder of George Floyd. But it
puts it front and center what the consequences of systemic
conflict are to the Black family as an institution, and
most importantly, it is the human dignity under pressure. You know,
he persevered through extraordinary pressure. And when I say I'm strong,

(20:26):
I'm strong because of that. And so I am hopeful
that people, as they read the story, they can see
that my dad was still able to be a dad
despite our circumstances with that political conflict, that I still
felt protected and safe and also disciplined. You know, you've

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got to be a real creative to discipline a child
from behind bars. And when I tell you I was
a little rambunctious, I mean it in the most diplomatic sense.
And so if I was in trouble, because my father
and my mother didn't communicate during those years, I think
there was a part of her that was just simply
so heartbroken, and her being a high ranking political I

(21:12):
mean officer of the Black Panther Party, you know, if
they just had two different dichotomies, if you will. And
so my father would stop writing me if I got
in trouble. And I don't know how he did it,
but he had a ways and a means.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
Because I was homeschool for the.

Speaker 9 (21:29):
First part of my life until he was incarcerated, so
I didn't even start school until I was ten years old.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
I didn't have a sense of what.

Speaker 9 (21:39):
That was like to stand in line, I ask people
to go to the bathroom. So if I got in trouble,
you know, weeks and weeks later would go by and
I wouldn't receive a letter, and then I'd be like,
what's going on? And then finally he would right and
asked me if I learned my lesson, you know, And
he felt that from solitude the difference he could make
in the world through standing by his conviction.

Speaker 5 (22:00):
If you want to hear great stories in terms of
daughter's reflections on their father, please pick up the book
My Dad, the Man, Black Daughters and Praise of their Fathers,
available where all books are sold. I want to thank
doctor Carol Adams, as well as Charmain Rickett and the
vaughn Or and Deborah Farmer for joining us this morning.

Speaker 6 (22:21):
Thank you for having us, Thank you so much for
the opportunity to talk about these marvelous stories.

Speaker 5 (22:26):
Given the light speed impact of technology in our lives,
it can cause some to want to isolate in a
quiet place, so go to a public place and let
out a roar. Rara is the title of a short
animated film premiering at the Tribeca Film Festival. And joining
me to talk about the film and what it says
about culture, neurodivergence, art and Ai is the film's director, writer, editor,

(22:50):
and cinematographer Jesse Wiglan Jesse, pleasure to have you joined
us this morning.

Speaker 10 (22:54):
How are you doing doing well? Thank you for having me.

Speaker 5 (22:57):
First of all, congratulations on this delight full short film.
It's just over three minutes and it represents a plothora
of today's big issues from as I mentioned, diversity and
neuro divergency, as well as your studios role in terms
of AI. What is your hope? That is the major
takeaway for viewers of this film.

Speaker 10 (23:18):
It was really a kind of a test to see
what can be possible to create nowadays using new technology,
but using the legacy of everything that I learned while
that picks our for almost sixteen years. I wanted to
create a new kind of studio that kind of harkened
back to everything that we learned, but utilizing some of
the newer technologies that allowed us to be a lot

(23:39):
more efficient. So for the film, it was a personal
story that resonated with my family. My wife is from Japan,
she moved for the United States when she was young,
and we have a lot of members in our family
who are on the spectrum. So this is a very
personal story about what does it mean to become uprooted,
to move to someplace new, and to have no voice,

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to have so much to say and to have very
little ways of actually communicating that.

Speaker 5 (24:07):
As you mentioned, it is personal for you. It focuses
on the life of Tora. She's a neurodivergent girl from Tokyo.
But yet in telling her story, we also see this
convergence of technology in a sense because we come to
identify with head that is attached to headphones and trying

(24:28):
to understand what is her personal reality that she's absorbing.

Speaker 10 (24:34):
Yeah, so Tora, she's nonverbal, she has selective mutism, amongst
other things, and she can't speak. In order to communicate,
she's listening to a soundtrack. And what we would come
to realize during this film is that what you're hearing
is kind of her internal monologue, is how she's processing
the world and everything that she's seeing. She's hearing it

(24:54):
in this soundtrack, which is kind of a K pop
jpop inspired song that we wrote. So what we're seeing
is this little girl processing this new world. Everything is
brand new, and it's hyper saturated with colors, and it
represents a stark contrast from what she's familiar with, and
so we're hearing through her headphones what she's thinking and

(25:16):
what she hopes to be able to communicate with the world.

Speaker 5 (25:19):
You have a storied career as a lead and senior
technical director of lighting and Creative Services and Marketing at Pixar.
What made you branch out and create Illuminati Studios and
how do you use AI?

Speaker 10 (25:35):
I was very, very fortunate too to have a long
tenure at Pixar where I worked on every film from up.

Speaker 5 (25:43):
To That is one of my favorite films.

Speaker 10 (25:46):
Man me too, Yeah, it is my favorite. Actually, I was.

Speaker 5 (25:49):
Voised out and See Love and it's just kudos to you.

Speaker 10 (25:54):
Thank you, thank you. You know, it's a team effort.
There's hundreds of artists that work on these films and
to be a part of you know, my small role
was just a dream come true. In twenty twenty four,
I was part of the mass layoff that affected almost
three hundred people at Pixar. And I found myself in
this unique position where I have all this experience and

(26:15):
so many news stories to tell, wanted to continue telling stories.
I'm a passionate artist. I love film, I love animation.
It's been my whole life. And how do I continue
telling this story in a industry that is becoming decimated?
Every week we seem to hear more and more people
being let go from different various studios and companies. And

(26:36):
as an independent is someone that doesn't have two hundred
million dollars to finance and the distribution network that you know,
we that we enjoyed at Pixar. How do I continue
to tell stories? So the most natural thing was to
explore new technology that would allow someone like myself that
has a background in animation and film to continue to

(26:59):
tell these authentic stories and ways that are creatively liberating.
And I found that with my background in traditional animation
two D and three D and lighting, how do I
incorporate the newest technology off the shelf and my own
proprietary things that allow us to move forward in an
efficient way? And AI was the logical first step and

(27:23):
it is by no means a perfect system. There's a
lot of flaws with AI, but I found like it
was very very liberating is how fast I could adapt
new ideas into something that was workable. However, it is
a very hybrid system where I still hand draw things.

(27:43):
I create something in Photoshop and I'll charcoal on paper first,
and then I will actually prototype it in three D
using Maya, and I will use the AI as a
kind of a between frame animator, which is a role
kind of a junior animator would would take you typically
and help go from one keyframe to another keyframe to

(28:05):
animate it. And initially it was very clunky, it was
not a great way of working, and it took about
a year really kind of of pushing on it and
seeing different different strengths and weaknesses to understand which AI
platform could handle different things. But my role as a
lead technol director was to identify new technologies even at Pixar,

(28:28):
and to kind of to keep pushing the boundaries of
what is possible and raise the bar. So I continue
to do that with my own studio.

Speaker 5 (28:36):
Speak about the paradox that AI represents, because this is
the conundrum, especially for creatives oh.

Speaker 10 (28:44):
Yeah, yeah. I think the fear is that AI will
will replace artists, and that is that's a huge fear
for everyone in the industry right now, myself included. And
what I wanted to do initially, right from the get go,
was to create something that I would consider to be
ethical AI. And that's something that not a lot of
people are talking about, whereas it is still.

Speaker 5 (29:05):
Well it needs to be discussed at the congressional level,
but there is a reticence to do so.

Speaker 10 (29:11):
Yes, I'm a one hundred percent in agreements. So I
think what I wanted to do was to make sure
that everything that we create is artists driven, a human
in the loop, hand on papers with the initial steps,
everything that we learned at Pixar in Disney has to
be integrated into this new system and yet using AI

(29:33):
to do some of the laborious heavy lifting as needed,
but without letting go of that. There's always a cost
to using the AI. It is inherently in human. It's
inherently not really capable of understanding the complexity of human emotion,
so asking it to do drama is very difficult. Asking
it to capture the emotion of humans and understanding the

(29:56):
beats of how we process feelings. The is not really
good at that at all, so you're asking it to
do things that it's inherently uncomfortable doing. And also, I've
taken steps to only allow the AI to know what
I'm giving it, so that it has no understanding of
the outside world other than the library that I feed
it based on my own work.

Speaker 5 (30:18):
There is an ethical mandate here that we have to
abide by. And finally, we know that the film is
featured at the Tribeca Film Festival, but when can listeners
have an opportunity to view this beautiful tribute to tra
and your family.

Speaker 10 (30:35):
Thank you. I'm hoping that after the film festival circuit
ends that we'll have it on our website, alumnistudios dot com,
and we'll probably have it on YouTube and different social platforms.
So yeah, I think I would love audiences around the
world to become familiar with this, and as the film
festivals kind of wrap up in different premieres, you know

(30:55):
the and their restrictions, I would love for everyone to
be able to watch this. We're currently working on a
feature length film based on this story to allow us
to go beyond the three minutes and really tell this
beautiful story in its rightful kind of long format and.

Speaker 5 (31:11):
At the same time keep harmony at home by paying tribute.

Speaker 10 (31:14):
To your wife. Absolutely. Yeah, it's all about family. This
whole everything that we created was initially just for our kids.
We wanted them to have stories that they could resonate with,
because a lot of times, you know, everyone loves the
Disney and picks our films, but there's a lot of
individuals out there that fall outside of the norms, and

(31:34):
being able to communicate a story for those audience members
is really what we resonate with.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
Jesse, We thank you so much for joining us this morning.

Speaker 10 (31:42):
Thank you so much. I really really enjoyed it as well.

Speaker 5 (31:44):
Well. That wraps up this edition of Chicago Inside and closing.
Please take advantage of the useful information presented today. I'm
Darryl Dinard. Always remembered to use informed inside and everything
that you do, and be sure to take care of
you this September