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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing. I'm Amy and
I'm Kat And today's quote is from Lily Collins. Do
you know who that is?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I do, because you just told me about the show
she's on, Emily in Paris. Is she famous from anything else?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I'm sure she's in other things, but I'm obsessed with
her from Emily in Paris. I love that show on Netflix,
and it blows my mind that you have never watched it. No,
it's so good like it, but you're going to Italy.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
But that is in Paris.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
It's in Europe.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I know.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I feel like if someone is taking a trip to
Italy or France or anywhere.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Over that I should watch it.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Then it's just one of those things, like she's living
the life that would have been so cool for me
to live in another life in my twenties. Maybe she's
in her thirties, but she's single and her career takes
her to Paris and she just gets to live her
best life over there.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Her dad is Phil Collins.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Oh, I like that seeing I'll Call in song? Can you?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Isn't that the Tarzan song? Yes? What are the words?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I'm trying to think of it? Hold on not that
one no Phil Collins song. I'm googling as that's as
I can in the air tonight. Uh, you'll be in
in my heart, You'll be hot and then it's in
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the air.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
That's what?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
What is it? What is in the night? Did you
ever think you could sing? Because I did?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
And I used to record myself on my phone like
on trips to and from college, just like prove that
I could sing.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Was like six hours. I never shared anybody.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Okay, as you told that story, it came to me.
I can feel it coming in the to night.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Hold on not. What I tell myself is that I
can't sing because I gets to sing in front of people.
But if I'm alone, I can sing. Okay, I'm really
good at the national anthem.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I have sang the national anthem in front of a
baseball team and Wichital like I opened the baseball game.
I flew to Wichita, Kansas. I think they were the
Wichital wing Nuts, a minor league baseball team, and they
invited me. Of course, the Bobby Bone shows on air there,
and the guys convinced me to take vocal lessons and
(02:27):
go and perform it. And my husband been at the time,
was deployed in Afghanistan, so I took it very seriously.
I did take the vocal lessons. I went and I
did my best. It wasn't great, but I wasn't disrespecting
it or making fun of it, even though I know
I'm not a singer. I just thought, well, how many
people actually get invited to go sing the national anthem
at a sporting event?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
So we have a recording.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I'm sure it was somewhere on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
That would be like singing it out of a sounds
game in Nashville, right yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
But it didn't feel that scary to me at the time.
But right now I would not do that. But this
was in my twenties. I fell a little more wild
and free.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Why did they invite you to sing? Did they think
you could sing?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I'm sure it came up on the show that I
thought I could sing, and of course I wish that
I could sing, and I probably said I'd like to
take lessons or maybe I could, who knows. I can't
remember exactly how it came about, but they reached out
and of course it became a whole thing. And weeks
leading up to it, I was taking my lessons and
I went and I did the best that I could
(03:25):
and I dedicated it to my husband at the time
that was in Afghanistan. So it's really cool. Yeah. So
I too think that I could sing, even though I
know that I can't. I just wish that I could.
Like if you could be an amazing singer or an
amazing dancer, like the best of the best, Which one
are you gonna choose?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Singer?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, but I also want to be able to play
the piano and sing.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Okay, I want both.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
You can do that, okay, but no dancing.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I mean, dancing would be cool, but if I would
much rather be able to sing. I think that would
be more useful in my life.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I agree singing would be I can do neither of
those well. So fun fact, I did not know that
that was her dad. That is really cool. Wow, I
had no idea she knew something. Back to Emily in Paris,
I like it, you should watch it. And I saw
this quote pop up on Instagram. I guess she had
done an interview with maybe Harper's Bizarre or something. Let
(04:19):
me just clarify that real quick, Bizarre UK, which would
make sense because Emily in Paris. I just wanted to
give credit where credit is due for that. But this
is where the audio is from, and it's actually Lily
saying it, So I guess they asked her a question
and this is her response, and this is our quote
for today.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
The older I've gotten, the more I've understood how truly
important it is to have not necessarily a big group,
but a group that makes you feel big. And I
have even met some of those amazing women and also
men that have made me feel like the biggest version
(04:58):
of myself in the life last five years. And I
always thought that you had to have friends for decades
in order to understand you and to stand up for you.
And I've really learned that when it is that you
know who you are as a person and who I
am as a woman, to be able to see that
in other people and encourage other people to be the
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best versions of themselves and the strongest versions of themselves,
they in turn help me do the same.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I appreciate her sharing that so much because I think
sometimes we can surround ourselves with people that make us
feel small, and we need to remember to surround ourselves
with people that help us feel big. But also in turn,
we need to make sure we're helping our friends and
people in our life feel big too.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I think you do a good job of that.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Oh well, thanks, I think that you do too. And
I think of our friendship being fairly new. And she
even expressed that you know new in terms of I
don't like you when you were seven, exactly because my bff, Andrea,
I met her when I was thirteen and my sister
is my best friend or one of them, and she's
been in my life for a really long time. But
(06:09):
I think that we got pretty close pretty quickly. And
I think sometimes we feel like you're supposed to know
someone for this long amount of time in order to
have this connection with them.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Well, and it have to be the case well, and
if you've had a friend for a long time, you
have to maintain that friendship. That's been very hard for
me is realizing that just because somebody has known you
since you were thirteen, it doesn't mean that friendship is
still serving you good point.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
It's tough, yeah, which our episode loaded up on your
podcast yesterday where we talk about my dating into marriage
and then marriage and to divorce and what dating looks
like on the other side of that.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
So dating in my.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Twenties versus dating in my forties. And something you said
in that episode, which my sister has said to me
before too, is things can have an expiration date. And
so it's not like this wasn't supposed to happen or
it should have never been. It's like, oh, well, it
was great when it was and now it has expired.
And that can be true of a lot of things,
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including friendships. But I just liked this Lily Collins quote,
and now every time I look at her when I'm
watching Emily in Paris, I'm gonna be I can feel
it coming in.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Then, okay, I can see how you might be able
to sing.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Stop I do. You don't have to.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Make me feel big, but right now, okay, but I
watched Did you watch Pop Star Academy? No?
Speaker 3 (07:34):
What I watch in Paris?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I watched Pop Star Academy. It's a show on the
making of the K pop band cats Eye never heard anyway.
It's it's kind of like a making the band thing.
But they took this group of young girls and they
either could like dance or they could sing. A lot
of them couldn't do both, and they taught a lot
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of these girls how to sing they took vocal lessons
and you could watch them actually learn how to carry
a tune and have pitch and all that. So that
gave me hope that it's not over.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Dough dough ray dough dough, ray me ray dough do
ray me faw me ray do do ray me fa.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
So lat huge that you're doing.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
No, But it was something we learned in choire where
I was like, do.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I thought that was your voice losson.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
No, But that's just a little choir thing that popped
in my head just now.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Your voice could be soothed into the ears. It's soft.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Okay, well, thank you, I'll accept that compliment or whatever
it is. But yeah, okay, Lily and Phil, good throwback there,
which I've never seen Tarzan, So I don't know how
like the cartoon, I know that that song goes with it,
but I haven't seen the movie the cartoon, the cartoon movie,
you've never seen it. I guess you're telling me right now.
(08:52):
That's why I'm looking at confusing the cartoon. So the
movie was a cartoon. I thought it was in real
life actors.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
There's both, but like the original is a movie.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Tarzan, Yeah, I didn't see that wait, am.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I thinking of like George of the Jungle or something?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
You think of a lion King because that's a cartoon,
but they did do a live actually ready.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Phil Collins from Tarzan or Georgia or Lion King?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
No, he's from Tarzan. Hold on right, Okay, Well while
you look that up, I will say one of the
things that I love about Emily in Paris, beyond just
her freedom to go do whatever she wants, I also
love my life where I don't have that freedom at all.
I like my life here with my kids and dating
and my job. So these are two things that are
(09:33):
true true, But it would have been really fun at
one point in my life to maybe just go live
somewhere where nobody knows anything about you and you get
to just start this life. And she's got this amazing, crazy,
awesome fashion in the show. I don't know that I
could ever pull it off, nor do I want to,
but I am entertained by it and I think it's
(09:54):
really cool and her outfits are fun and I want
to be more fun with my outfits. But I'm also
trying to just maintain trends.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Question, would you choose Paris that was where you would
choose if you could move to a different country.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I've never been. I know, we like to talk about
geography a lot here, but Paris, France would be the
country in Paris.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
So I've just.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Never been to Paris, but it's on my bucket list
of places to go, So sure, why not Paris Space?
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Probably because when I'm watching the show, that's where she is, So.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
We'll just pick that. Okay, So what is her style
like in the movie. Is it like extravagant or is
it just she looks effortless or is it like selling
Sunset how they were like basically costumes.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
It's over the top. Okay, she's a little more over
the top than Devil Wears Prada, But it's sort of
Anne Hathaway in that movie when she makes the transformation
of sort of her vibe to them when she's working
there and she just gets really sharp and chic and
all that.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
I want to like sharp and chic, Yeah I can't.
It's a lot.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
But Emily in Paris is the colors and the patterns
and the mix matching, which maybe that's what's in right now.
I don't know, the unexpected shoes with the outfit. It's
just really fun, like she's taking risks.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
My brain doesn't work that way. I don't know. I'm
trying to figure out how skinny jeans are now back
in style, like that's as simple as I go. And
then I'm like, wait, I thought skinny jeans were out,
but I see multiple places news flash in case y'all
are just now learning this as you listen to us,
Skinny jeans are trending for fall. Skinny jeans are trending
(11:44):
for fall. And I think I got rid of some
of my skinny jeens, And I'm like, why do I
get rid of anything? If trends are just going to
go in and out this.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Quickly, they've only been out for Like, seriously, I can
never wear these again.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
This is embarrassing. Get them out of my house.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
I took it very seriously because it took a while
to transition to whatever the heck kind of jeans we've
been wearing for the while. I know how to describe them,
but I like the looser. I still I'm not used
to it. Which I want to preface any part of
this conversation that we get into when it comes to fashion,
because that's where we're going at the moment where whatever
you want, who cares? But also I like to try
(12:25):
to figure out what's going on, but within reason with
my age, Like I don't need to be ridiculous about
fashion trends. Although I might get almond nails for the
first time.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
That would make sense because almond almond nails are actually
millennial nails. Now all of the kids are getting square.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Nails, coffin coffin coffin nails thicker and then get skinnier
and then square at the top. I'm sorry, what if
you google what a coffin looks like? It looks like
the top of a coffin.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
It's giving a coffin a coffin.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
That Dracula would be in. Think that kind of coffin
coffin nails something not like a normal rectangle coffin.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
So oh, those are kind of cute.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Ew I don't like them at all, but that means
in a year I'll probably love them.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Wait, I don't hate it. I like almond better. But
I think a lot of people are getting the short, square,
stubby nails.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Mine are short, square and stubby right now.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yours are round? They are? Yes, that's a round?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Okay, Well, feel kind of square ish. But I am
going to Vegas for work. iHeart Festival this weekend, and
I think I might add a little almond tip. I
said almond earlier, joking. If you know, you know, you.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Should do one hand almond, one hand coffin.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
I don't know that would be representative of how confused
I feel on a daily basis with fashion. But I'm
worried about typing.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I used to have almond nails.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
You just don't get them too long, okay, because eventually
you don't wear contacts.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
But eventually I would be able to take my content heck.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Out because my nails were so long. I had like
use like my palm of my hand.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Okay, Well, I'll keep you posted on my almond nails.
But my skinny jene situation needs help because I'm gonna
have to go get a pair, and I have to.
I don't really have to, but I want to because
they say, well, they say too. You told me about
this Instagram account to check out gives all these styling tips,
(14:24):
and after I had seen a few other places that
skinny jeans were trending, I went to one of their
posts and read all about how to style skinny jeans
be styled CO Underscore is the account.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Do you see how I was confused when I was
reading it?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:39):
At first Kat was telling me it's best styled CO Underscore,
and I kept searching for it back when she was
telling me to go look at their stuff, and I
was like, I can't find it. I can't find it,
and I kept thinking I'm spelling it wrong or something's
wrong with me. And then she's like, oh, just kidding,
it's be styled CO. But I do see how you
read it that way. Be Styled CO Underscore has a
lot of really amazing tips. This is what they had
(15:00):
to say about skinny jeans. This is a caption how
do you feel about skinny jeans being back in style?
Here are our tips regarding skinny jeans and boots to
stay more current, and they had what to avoid. So
avoid an overly distressed skinny jane. Avoid the low rise
skinny jean from yours before you no problem. Avoid a
(15:23):
low shaft boot and cuffing your jeans. This cuts your
body and makes you appear shorter. I have to look
up what the shaft of the boot is.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
That would be an ankle booty.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Okay, it says here, the shaft of the boot is
the part that is covering the ankle or the calf,
the part of the boot that goes up. So if
it's an ankle booty, it'd be that little part. Yeah,
and if it's a knee high booty, it'd be that
whole part from the ankle to the calf. That's the shaft.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
But I have never heard that, Like, have you heard
shaft in other.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Areas I've given or they got the shaft.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I've never heard the shaft as a noun. And other
is that a noun?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Is it a person?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Place?
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Or thing? Is a noun?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Okay, so they're giving you the shaft, that's a noun.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
No, that would be it's a thing.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
They're giving you a thing.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Oh, I thought it would be an action. So it's
a oh adjective. But gave was that she givesn't This
is not.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
My strong point anyway, were.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Not an English podcast, But I will say I think
that we're now making shaft our word of the week. Yeah, okay,
I just looked up shaft. Here's an example sentence. It's
harsher unfair treatment. Her boss really gave her the shaft
when he promoted someone less experienced instead of her. Ooh,
that's sort of like the Toby Keith song like boot
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in your boot ass a boot in your butt. So
like it's the shaft, like they really gave them the shaft,
and it's like they really kicked them on the booty
with that part of the bag.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
It's like in The Devil ros Prada where what's the
woman's name, Meyl Streep gives Anne Hathaway the shaft when
she wears a low shaft booty with her skinny jeans.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Huh does that really happen?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
No?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Oh no, I'm thinking Actually in that movie, she had
that other assistant girl and Anne Hathaway kind of swooped in,
so that girl resented to give her the shaft Anne Hathaway.
So it's like Meryl Streep's character gave that girl the shaft. Yeah, mmmm,
that's it. Didn't your mom see someone from Defoul wears
Prada like a lunch allegedly?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
So my mom is in Italy, My parents are in Italy.
They were eating lunch. I had a cafe. My mom
texted me and my sister and said, I think Stanley
Tucci is eating lunch at the same cafe we are at,
and I was like, that's so cool because my mom
loves his show that his like Italian food show. We're
going to Italy in October and so, and she told
me to watch it. She said she's watched every episode.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
So her seeing him in Italy is so cool.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
And I guess my dad asked the waiter waitress if
that was him, and the waiter, I guess said something
to allegedly Stanley Tucci and he said, no, I'm a
composer from London. But I think he lied because my
mom said, I'm ninety nine percent sure that that was him,
and he lives in London now, so he probably just
made that up because he didn't want people to bother him,
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which is kind of funny.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
He's a very distinct look.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yes, so no, I'm a composer from London. Also, if
somebody asked you if you were Amy Brown and you
didn't want them to know it was you, what would
you say you were like? Would you call yourself? Would
you say no, I'm a singer from Wichita.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
I guess I would just say no, not me. I
wouldn't make up something else another thing we do only
one time I've done that normally, Why why would I
not say who I am? But I was at the
grocery store and looked a mess. I'm in the checkout line,
and at some point I'm just trying to get the
(18:46):
heck out of there. Like I realized, I went to
the store with Mario Boduscu on my face? What's pimple cream?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Like it's pretty normal, unlike your breakout, I know.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
But it was very obvious. So I don't know why
I didn't like check And I think that maybe when
I was in the checkout line, she must have said
something like, you have stuff on your face, and then
there's the refrigerator things right there, and like I could
look and see and I was like, oh my gosh,
I have Mario Boduscu on my face or whatever pimple
cream I was into at that moment. But I'm sure,
(19:20):
pretty sure it was Mario Boduscuo, which is a good one.
It's a drying lotion, I think is what it's called.
And it's pink, so it looks like the stuff you
would put on your body if you got poison ivy.
What's that stuff called?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I've never gotten I don't know I've ever gotten poison ivy.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Oh never mind.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Wait, so then she asked if you Then.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
She pointed that out and then she said, oh, are
you Amy from the Bobby Bone Show. And I was like, Nope,
not me. I don't care anymore. When I was younger then,
and I think it'd be like, yep, that is me, Hi,
this is me and all my glory with my pimple
cream all over my face. Back to the skinny jeans
(19:57):
we derailed. I know people are eager waiting to know
how to wear their genes, and this is what we
need to opt for. Okay, so don't forget avoid a
low shaft, a low shaft boot that is with your
skinny gene. What you need to opt for a higher
rise skinny gene or straight denim. So skinny or straight
(20:17):
seems to be an option, and I like the high rise.
Opt for a knee high boot that lands right.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
At the knee, not over the knee.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
What does that mean? Class? That means the shaft will
come up to the knee, okay, Or opt for a
higher shaft boot or sock booty that goes into the denim.
If they're not super skinny, I need a visual.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
I have no idea a sock booty that goes into
the denim.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I'm gonna need to google soccer booty my fashion vocabulary.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Only I can have a lower shaft. If the don't know, we're.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Gonna have to google. Yeah, alry you guys, fashion podcast
failing you in the fashion department. And then the other
thing they said is try other denim styles. You would
be shocked at the amount of clients that have been
skinny jean loyalists until we get them in other options
and then they never look back.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Oh good.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
So they're giving us permission to wear whatever we want,
to wear whatever we want, which I love.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Also, I saw on that same account she was giving
tips of how to modernize your skinny jeans and she
said wear layers and bigger oversized tops. So don't wear
like a super tight tucked and shirt with the skinny jeans.
If you're wearing that throwblazer overtop or a shacket of
sorts or a button up unbuttoned, or just wear a
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bag of your shirt.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Oh okay, I like that.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
I'm a style icon.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Now do you know what you're wearing to Italy yet?
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Like?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Are you packed?
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I'm not packed because I'm not going for like six
more weeks, but.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
We're going for ten days.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
So I'm just gonna bring and we're not I'm not
checking a bag, so this is gonna be really hard
for me. But I just am bringing about six dresses.
I'll wear some of them more than once, and then
one or two lounge slash hiking outfits because we're going
to go on a hike and then I'm gonna have
to repeat outfits.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
And then a jacket.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Because it's gonna be col because we're going in that
end of October.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Smart you need to go on their account and scroll through,
like they have one cardigan, six ways to wear it
so that when you pack, yeah, you pack one thing and.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
I wear it the whole trip. Do you want to
watch that.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Different ways to wear something. I have seen multiple places
that belts are essential for the falls, to make sure
that you've got a good belt, a brown one and
a black one.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Okay, well I told you I just bought a new
brown belt and it doesn't fit in my belt loops.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
I'm looking at it right now. It's a little thick,
so clearance, I think that it needs to be a
little thinner than that. That's not fitting through any hoops,
Like that's the kind.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
You wear over like on a dress.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yeah, like a skirt or shirt. Oh yeah, but don't
quote me on that because I don't know. Oh you
know what they also have here is a whole post
on affordable knee high boots, which knee high boots can
get pretty pricey, but I like that they have some
wallet friendly options. So y'all check out be Styled co
Underscore for these tips. I also like next Door Life
(23:26):
for tips. And I'm trying to think of other people
on Instagram that might have some things, you know what
us fashion fashion fashion Kat. Where can people find you
on Instagram?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
At e Therapy podcast and at cat Vamburen.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Velvet's Edge is good for fashion stuff too, but I
don't know that she posts that much anymore in that
space as some other people. But she has beauty tips
too and Gail Style. I like her stuff. She's very classy.
She's up in New York.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I love a classy look.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I'm not a classy dresser, but I love I think, yeah, yeah,
it's the thing. Okay, And I'm at Radio Amy and
we hope y'all are having the day that you need
to have.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Bye.