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November 9, 2023 54 mins

Have you watched the David Beckham documentary? Amy has never been into soccer, but she is now!!! The doc about Becks is so good. It even motivated Amy to go to her first ever professional soccer game. Her friend Jeremiah Carter (a soccer maven) joins her this episode to chat all things Beckham & so much more! #pimpinjoy

HOST: Amy Brown // // @RadioAmy

GUEST: Jeremiah Carter // @jmiahcarter // @streetkings_fc //

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Speaker 1 (00:13):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Oh it's pretty, but hey, it's pretty beautiful thing beautiful
that for a little more, facing said, he your kicking
with four with Amy Brown.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Happy Thursday, Four Things Amy here, and my guest today
is a David Beckham expert.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
I'm not Jeremiah Carter.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
I have been obsessed with the David Beckham documentary. Now.
I think I only got interested in it because of
Victoria Beckham. Because I and three of my girlfriends in
high school dressed up as the Spice Girls for Halloween.
So clearly a fan. And I okay, I can get
into David Beckham because I saw that Victoria was a

part of the documentary and it's something that a lot
of people have been talking about. I don't remember David
so much as a soccer player, and I have never
been into soccer. I didn't play soccer. I've been to
one Nashville MLS soccer game right with you and two
of our other friends.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
It was electric.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
It was quite the experience, and Lunchbox was there. Lunchbox
goes to every game, season tickets. He loves soccer. He
plays rex soccer.

Speaker 2 (01:30):

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah, football, But here in America we say soccer because
football would be confusing. Which we are going to talk
about Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift because I was watching
this thing on YouTube where they were comparing Travis and
Taylor as like David and Victoria with the ogs of this,

and I was like, huh, that's interesting because I honestly,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
I don't know the difference.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
I know that Sunday Night football, if Taylor shows up
to a game now is like insane. My sister's HGTV
show was airing on Sunday nights and they literally moved
it to Tuesday nights because of Taylor Swift.

Speaker 2 (02:11):

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, HGTV did not my sister, but it was an
executive call where the night my episode aired because I
was on her show. The Sunday night that my episode
air was the night that Taylor Swift showed up at
the Chiefs game for the first time.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
And Okay, it's totally fine.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
But I mean apparently like twenty something million people tuned
in to watch Taylor and apparently has she does?

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Taylor does? She said, yes, well, so what's that story?

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Well, she was going into the concert.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
I just happened to be where she was riding the
golf cart into the I don't know what they called
it back then, the Titan Stadium, I said, Taylor.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
And the carts in Nashville.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah. I wasn't even end the venue. I don't know what.
I guess.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
I was near over on the backside where they do
the the tour buses. I just thought, well, if the
cart stopped, I got to ask something different. I can't
just be like Taylor Hi. So I just said, well,
will you dance with me? And her mom is on
the cart and she starts dying, laughing, and Taylor says, well,
I gotta go play a show. And I was like, oh, yeah, yeah.

After then she's like, all right, all right, we'll see after.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
That's a yes. Right.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Well, you know Travis met her in a unique way
where he had made a friendship bracelet.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
No, I don't know this story.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
You don't know hit me with it. I haven't paid
attention to them. Okay, well on a micro level, but.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Well, I mean we're here to talk about David Beckham
and it's soccer.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
It's related.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
So Travis made a friendship bracelet for Taylor, like with
his phone number on it or whatever.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Oh and I don't know that he ended.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Up being able to give it to her, But then
he talked about it on his podcast, and maybe he
did give it her I don't know.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
But then it was months later.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
I mean, that's like it months.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Later that they ended up getting together, so you.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
Could say they started as friends. I mean, like he
jumped into the friend zone with a friendship bracelet. That's
kind of weird, is it.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
I don't know how she received it her if she thought, oh,
that's kind of cute and clever.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
What's up with this guy?

Speaker 1 (04:11):
He definitely doesn't fit the mold of the typical tailor swift.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
I think he'll tell her no, which I think she'll.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Like he'll tell her no, Yeah, I do. I think
that there's she's dated guys that will tell you think
she's a person that expects a yes all the time.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
I think she walks over her guys too easily. I
really do. What about I'm not completely guessing.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
You have no idea, I'll have no idea, but I
think that she probably would do well with a man
who will look at her sometimes be like no, I'm
not doing that, or I'm not going there. No, I
don't want to go out tonight, and I think other
guys would probably be like, whatever you want, I'll do
whatever you need whatever, And I think that's probably unattracted
to her.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
I would imagine, is there going.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
To be an interesting place to be be at a
level or status or to be whatever that looks like
in someone's I assume if you have the celebrity status,
the success, the whatever, that you probably encounter that a lot.
But I'm sure that's even on the you know, the
normal everyday level, depending on the dynamic. Yeah, but people

are maybe eager to please you.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Yeah, yeah, I think he's exactly right. But I think
it's to your point of them being called the og
David Beckham and Victoria like Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swift
or the new version, But I think that it's a
whole different level.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
In my opinion, I think.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
They were way bigger, way bigger. Posh Speiceye and David Beckham.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Were weir global global.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
I mean, Taylor Swift is a massive, right, She's massive
and she's all over the world.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
So Travis Kelcey, I'm sure he's successful, but honestly, I
don't know anything about him other than I remembered, oh yeah,
he played his brother in the Super Bowl. Yeah, and
that was the first time that had ever happened. But
I wouldn't have remembered their names. But I'm obviously not
a Kansas City Chiefs fan, or a football fan for
that matter. Yeah, American football. I am now a football

a soccer fan, ever since I watched David Beckham.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Documentary, which is such a weird thing.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Okay, yes, so we went to the Nashville soccer game
and Zimmerman the player walk Yeah, Walker Zimmerman. He hit
the ball with his head a lot, and I even
with like kids doing that. But I mean, is there
a concern with the ball hitting the head like that
so much?

Speaker 4 (06:30):
Yeah, yeah, there is. There have been helmets that have
been created for soccer. Some kids will a lot of times,
like a traumatic where they've had a clear concussion doesn't
happen from the ball, and people kind of have that misconception.
But you do have repeated blows like they talk about
in American football.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Just repeat.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
It's not even necessarily the big hits are the problem.
It's the repeated pounding of constantly just connecting with the
head something with the head, and a lot of times
in soccer it's kids of like had a collision with
somebody or you know, had a fall something like that,
bang their head and that leads them to getting a
diagnosis of hey, you need to now have a helmet,

and they'll wear protection after a certain amount of time,
once they passed these what do they call them, the
impact tests. I didn't even they didn't have those when
I was younger. I had a number of.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Concussions from soccer or football.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
First when I was young on the playground, so not
even in organized sport. I just got a need of
the head and I was out and I started throwing
up that whole thing.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
You know, it was a concussion. Couldn't see for a while.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
And then in sports after that, I think I was
just more susceptible to it.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
But they didn't know. They didn't know much stuff back then.
I had to do cat scans and MRIs and constantly
all that jazz.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
So was David Beckham aheader?

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Is David Beckham aheader? Oh? Is that part of his game?

Speaker 3 (07:50):

Speaker 4 (07:51):
I see what you're saying. No, that's not part of
his game. He's not considered somebody who's one of the
most explosive players. I would say he's athletic. I mean
he's he puts in a lot of miles or kilometers
as they say over there. He covers a lot of
ground in a game. But he's not one of the
biggest knocks on his game when it wasn't the most
it wasn't the fastest, it wasn't the quickest or fastest guy.

And yeah, he wasn't going to go up and win
you a header in the box like Christiano Ronaldo, which
for those who don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
He's everybody knows who Ronaldo is.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Good. Yeah, he's again to the point.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
The most followed person on Instagram. I I know nothing
about soccer, but I know, well now I know Zimmerman. Yeah,
and now I know.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
What shot so og means shots on goal.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Ye, I know a red flag.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
I know pH I love it.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
I know.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Did you watch any games this weekend?

Speaker 3 (08:42):
I did not.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
Did you watch any today? Champions League was today on TV?
It was on TV.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
I did not.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
You probably have to have the channel. It is difficult
to watch in America sometimes.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
So the World Cup is going to come to North America,
North America in twenty twenty six, So I am brushing
up on my soccer for that.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
Yeah, yeah, it's very important that you do. I think
everybody will.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
So that means it's going to be in Mexico, America,
United States, and Canada.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
As far as I understand it. Yeah, okay, it's gonna
be great.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
So we have everybody listening. If you're like me, you're
just not starting out with soccer.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
We have two years twenty twenty six.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
To figure this soccer thing out.

Speaker 2 (09:23):

Speaker 1 (09:24):
So one question I have from the documentary, in addition
to David's hair.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Should we get back to the relationship at some point
We'll get back to that. Yeah, we didn't really compare.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
I think you said it's not comparable.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
Yeah, it's not comparable. But the World Cup relates as
to why it's not comparable. I guess keep going with
your question.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, because nothing like that exists for football, American football.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
Nothing Travis to speak, He's not David Beckham. David Beckham
would probably eclipse Rinaldo's Instagram followers if Instagram was a
thing back then, I would imagine, Yeah, it's a great
way to say.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Who's better, who's better, who's better at playing soccer?

Speaker 4 (10:02):
Oh, Ronaldo would yeah, most people would say he's yeah,
he plays a position that's more valued. He's had transfer
fees that were way higher he's was it transfer fee
when you change teams?

Speaker 1 (10:13):
To put it simply, yeah, is it higher because of
inflation or oh?

Speaker 4 (10:18):
For sure, money changes over time, but part of it's
because he's in a different position, a goal scoring position
or as a striker or a winger, where those guys
are generally valued at a higher level.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, okay, Well, two things that stood out to me
in the documentary. Well, I just love David and Victoria
and how normal they are. That's like a bonus thing
that stood out to me.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Super cool.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Second, well, that's the bonus so first thing.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
The last time I hung out with him, they were great.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
They're lovely people, totally normal.

Speaker 2 (10:48):

Speaker 1 (10:49):
David's hair is well, it seemed to change. And then
you and I were talking about it and you said
that a lot of European soccer players, maybe rumor has it,
get hair transplants in Turkey.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yes, I have no doubt they go to Turkey.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Okay, you know this for sure.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
Yeah, I'm I'm gonna be a full, full unbeliever in this.
But Turkey is said to be the place from the
guys I know, especially the guys I know in Europe
who are interested in that kind of treatment.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Like you have soccer player friends.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
Yeah, play the game or have played the game, so
generally a little bit older, but some guys are still playing. Yeah,
Turkey is the place, and they'll like, we looked at
the list. They'll go down the names. They won't even
look it up. They know the names. They're like, so
and so went too Turkey and when he came back
it was it was completely different guy.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
And so when Jeremiah saying, list, if you all you
have to do is google soccer players hair transplant Turkey
and then yeah, a list of like twenty guys are
gonna show up, and there's before and after pictures. Which
is crazy to me because you know, so many people
here in America do all different kinds of things to
get their hair to grow. Maybe they've even gone to Turkey,

but I assume it's just because of regulations. Whatever process
they're using in Turkey is not allowed here. Yeah, which
is weird that we would have such strict things like
I don't know what it's I don't know what they're doing,
I don't know what the risk could be.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
But yet we allow opioids.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
No problem. H It's a great point.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
There are a lot of probably really good things to
dig into there that would be interesting to look at.
I think what's fascinating is a lot of what I
know about sports and sports injuries is that in Europe
there are less regulations. So I know that there have
been professionals in the NBA. I think even Kobe maybe

when he was playing, they will go to Germany and
get some treatment that isn't here yet. And part of
the reason isn't here yet is from my understanding, certain regulations.
It has to go through certain stages to be approved, moved,
to be allowed. And these doctors over there, in certain
countries I think, have more freedom to try something innovative

and they can use certain things.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
That we just don't.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Oh, when my mom had cancer, well, she was getting
treatment and at one point they were like, Okay, what
we have is no longer working, and we've got a
clinical trial, but we don't have anything for you further.
And so we found this place in Mexico really and
we were going wow, Like I had already talked to

Bobby and I was going to take six weeks off
from the show. Wow, And move to Mexico with my mom,
and they were going to be doing all of this
treatment that wouldn't or this care.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
I don't know. Yeah, you'd call it treatment, but it
was more holistic.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
I think that we were desperate. Yeah, so I think that, yeah,
with fear comes some open mindedness to just try anything
of like okay, well maybe we go to Mexico and
eat this soup that they serve every day, and drink
this juice and do coffee in emas all the time.
Like it was just there was a protocol and they

believed in it, and you were reading stories of people
that went and then came back saying they were healed.

Speaker 2 (14:17):

Speaker 4 (14:17):
So it's like the whole day like ground then you
get outside and put your feet in the grass or
the sand and you look at.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
The sun all that kind of I mean, yes, they
just do all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
And I mean there was other I don't know what
you would call them procedures. Yeah, there was other parts
in the day, like yes, it was very very very strict,
but you would go and you would live there for
however many weeks. We were going to maybe give it
six and then I can't remember what changed.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
I mean, I guess.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Honestly, my mom just kept getting weaker and weaker, and
then we decided to try the clinical trial. Even long
story short, short story long, we'd ended up going and
I can't honestly remember if we were in a clinical
trial when my mom started to just deteriorate and then
she passed away. But what they were doing in Mexico

was not legal. Here is my point, Like, we could
not have gotten that care here legally.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah yeah, so it.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Is interesting what other countries allow. So I am fascinated
by that, but that's not really why we're here. David
Beckham possible hair transplant in Turkey. And then also another
thing that was fascinating to me in the documentary was
when there was a particular play I believe in the
World Cup. Oh yeah, when he was playing for Manchester United.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
No, no, no, World Cup is England. So he's playing for
his country at that point.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
But you're good, but that's the team he was on.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
He was on his club team, Manchester United. Yeah, and
then he was playing for England as his country the
country represented.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah right yeah, but if he was in regular season,
he would be Manchester play. So I want to make
sure I understand this because then after that, because England
ended up hating him and treating him horribly and basically
spitting on him and yelling at him, I felt so
bad for him. Yeah, I had no idea, I have
no recollection of this happening, but I felt so bad

for Victoria, for David, their family, like how they were treated.
It's very interesting to me how passionate people are about
sports to where they're completely going to go after somebody
and treat them with such disrespect and stomp on them
because of a red card, which you learn in the

documentary shouldn't have even been a red card because the
guy that he quote unquote fouled or whatever you want
to call it. Yeah, in the documentary saying yeah, it
wasn't really as bad as it seemed.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
I played it up.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
To the correctly unapologetic about it, isn't he He just
is like, yeah, it shouldn't have been a foul and
I played it up, and he just he has no problem.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
It ruined that season of David Beckham's life. I mean,
you could always ask the question of what does this
make possible? Ensure it put David on a potential different
trajectory and try to find the good in everything. But
I'm like you, this little punk, what. I couldn't believe

that that happened. And I wonder if anybody from Europe
that was clearly angry at David Beckham at that time
has watched this documentary and now seen that this guy's
on camera admitting that David actually didn't kick him or whatever.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
It was kind of you know, it.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Was almost like a poor sportsmanship because he made it
seem as though David overreacted with this like flailing about
and kicked him or something inappropriately.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Am I saying that correctly?

Speaker 1 (17:54):

Speaker 4 (17:54):
Yeah, he was trying to get under Beckham's skin. He
was trying to get him to react, and they were
the better team. Yeah, England was the better team. And
he was basically making a conscious choice, which happens, and
we can get into that number of referees, huge field,
all that stuff. He's making a conscious choice if I'm
gonna play a little bit of a game outside the
game here, you know what I mean. He was kind

of saying, like, you know, they're gonna beat us at
football today, at soccer today, but I got to do
something to kind of get them distracted, get them off
their game, give us an upper.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Hand, and he.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
Took advantage of Yeah, I mean he he found him
hard and got David to retaliate. And I think, as
you said, there's if you want to make the connections
to life, there are a lot of them there. And
I think Beckham as he spoke about it as well,
like he talked about how it was such a brutal
time in his life. He talked about how important it

was to be on the team he was on and
be insulated in a sense at some level by that
team and by the coach he had, and to have
Victoria in his camp, you know, on his team in
that sense. I think the timeline's right. I'm trying to
remember if they were married at that point.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah, like that.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
I believe so, because wasn't she didn't she just tell
them she was pregnant.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
Yeah, that's right, right before the game or the yeah yeah,
the day of r Yeah yeah, yeah, that's wild. That
is wild. That'd be so tough to play a game.
And like, I mean, I get it. Maybe if you're
like your fourth kid or fifth kid.

Speaker 5 (19:22):
That's one they're on number one.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Oh so question something that's come up.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
We've talked about this on the Bobby Bone Show before
of you know, say, pro athletes, you're in the super Bowl, okay,
and your wife is in labor. You're Tom Brady, You're
the quarterback. Yeah, your wife is giving birth.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
What do you do? I asked her, and she says,
I would have to have a conversation. It have to
be honest, clear communication where if I would hope she
would know me well enough to be like, hey, you know,
I didn't support you all these years for you getting
to the super Bowl and to not play, I hope
she would support me in that. But if for whatever

reason she was like, look, I can't even explain it.
I feel x y Z I need you there, I'd
probably have to tell the team sorry, yeah, because I'll
be with my wife hopefully for the rest of my life.
But that team, you're just like, you could get signed
next year to a different team. And his business which.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Is like you know David was with England at the time,
and then he went to Spain, yeah, ye, and then
he left Spain and went to La Galaxy.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
I never thought of asual A Zimmer. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
I was just very intrigued with that storyline of that
guy just completely ruining his life and being okay with it,
and then how fans reacted, and so I just am
not that passionate about sport to where I'm going to
react that.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
Way toward I guess I'm not. I mean I have
road rage.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
You do have? No, I don't, Are you sure?

Speaker 4 (21:09):
I'm yeah, I could see you as like a closet
road rage.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
No, okay, none. I have grace and compassion because I
have been mistreated on the road. It feels like you
don't get to.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
Be mistreated on the on the football pitch, on the
soccer pitch, or any sport. Have you You ever been
in a game where it's like heated and you want
to win?

Speaker 1 (21:32):
And I'm not that I like games, but I don't
have to win.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yeah, yeah, that's healthy.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
And when it comes to if I'm watching a sport
and I'm partial, I always am because I don't have
a true Like I even went to Texas A and
M and it's like, okay, yeah, whoever has the ball?
If that's not them, it is them, Maggie's whoever.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Has the ball.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
I'm sort of like, Okay, that's beautiful.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
I think that that's a way to approach to life.
I think it's good to see beauty and acknowledge it.
For beauty, whether it's yours, to behold yours that you
created or not, or to have someone I don't know.
I think the analogy I like from a book I
read once was the Olympics, like even being a viewer,
or even let's say you're competing and you get third

or fourth place, but someone wins the gold medal by
doing some crazy thing that's never been done in gymnastics,
and you not feeling anything taken away from you, are
just ecstatic that you were there to even be able
to see it. You just rejoice in something beautiful being done.
That's pretty healthy way to compete, but it's not common.
It's not common.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Pretty healthy competitor. When it comes to Farkle or spinner,
Have you played fark or spinner?

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Nothing? No, I know nothing about them.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Okay, Farkle's a dice game, so your farkal name would
be Pharahmiah.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
You take an f and put it.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
You're serious right now, and I'm famie.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yes, Okay, yeah, are we playing right now?

Speaker 1 (23:06):

Speaker 3 (23:06):
Because it's a dice game.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
We could get some dice and I know, but I'm
just saying around a farkle. If you've got your friends
sitting on the table, everybody has their farkal name, okay,
which is just take the f okay set in there. Okay,
So I could be playing that. I'm not going to
be super competitive. But we did a blank slate tournament
at work a couple of weeks ago, and Lunchbox was

my partner, and he lost his mind.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
Yeah, it's like playing Monopoly with friends. Eventually a board
gets flipped.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Right, but no, I'm not going to be flipping it.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
But he was.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
He got so angry, and I love Lunchbox and he
was my teammate, and then I had to spend time
calming him down.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Was he angry at you?

Speaker 1 (23:48):

Speaker 2 (23:49):
What was he angry at?

Speaker 1 (23:50):
I guess the the way other the other teams were
playing with the rules.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Did he feel like you weren't compared.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Fel No, No, we did, okay.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
It was yea.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
He felt like he was getting cheated.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
Yes, he felt like he was getting David Beckham, They're
like simeon it.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
He was getting yeah, something like that.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Yeah, and he got so angry and I just was like, okay,
And I mean, you know some similar to that if
Bobby's a big Arkansas fan, they've not been winning a lot.
I think they won recently, but they were losing a lot,
and Bobby gets in such a bad mood. And Eddie's
a Cowboys fan, and when they lose, it's such a
bad mood and I don't understand it ruining. So that

being said, I am a soccer fan. Now, yeah, well,
and but I don't like when we went to the
Nashville Soccer Club game, they lost, and I didn't. It
didn't affect me. Did it affect you?

Speaker 2 (24:43):
No, it did not affect me.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
I wonder what the psychology with that is, Like, what
is it? Is it because you grow up with I
mean no, it's it can't even just be that you
grow up with a team, because it's really it's about
sports and teams and things you're passionate about. But then
when you take it to a board game, it's not
like you grew up and you're connected to that board game.

Speaker 2 (25:02):

Speaker 4 (25:02):
I think, well, I think you know when you're I
think they're related in the sense that if you grow
up watching competition and competing yourself, when you enter into competition,
you naturally have an inclination to want to do well,
to want to win you.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
So have you seen my trophies in my garage?

Speaker 2 (25:19):
I see him right here?

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Oh not those, Yeah, those are work things. But I
have my in my garage. You'll have to look. Yeah,
you'll see my tennis and maybe softball. Okay, but I
mean I wasn't I just wasn't competitive. So anyway, David Beckham,
back to the documentary because if you haven't watched it,
I would highly recommend it, and if there's other soccer

things that you would recommend for people to watch. Since
we're preparing for the World Cup, we've got two years, yes,
I mean we'll continue to talk about soccer back. Yeah,
we got to dig in.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
The beautiful thing about soccer is, and we probably should
have led with this, is that it touches every part
of life, every part of life for most cultures, I
should say. So when you go to Europe, there's involved
Soccer is involved in your day to day fashion sense,
what you choose to eat, where you choose to go.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Why would it be what you choose to.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
Eat, Because there are certain cities and certain teams from
those cities that have certain traditional cuisines. You know, they
just have celebratory cuisines, things that maybe you take, maybe
you get just at the stadium, et cetera.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Okay, yeah, just curious.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
Yeah, yeah, it's like anything. Well it's not like anything
when you go. Europe is the mecca, so let's just
speak about that in a sense. But globally, if you
go to a game, it is true the world shuts
down for soccer, and you can see it in a city.
The city will shut down for the game. If anything
is going on, it is for the game. That the
businesses are gearing up for the game. People eating, getting scarves,

getting things to go and enjoy the game. That's oftentimes
what it's like. And it's just amazing to be able
to hear the music, smell the smells, listen to the languages,
and you feel the weather, and then you hear the
chance and it's so loud and it's it's it's vibrating you. Yeah,
you you literally feel it, you don't just hear it.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Yeah, I will say after watching the documentary and then
hearing you describe it, like I would like to go
to a game in Europe.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
I tried to tell Amy earlier that Nashville was her
third favorite team, and she said why, I said, well,
because we got to find at least two European teams
that you pick ahead of which.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
I have at least terrible.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
The only two that I know are Manchester United yeah
and Real Madrid.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yeah. Excellent teams to pick well.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Because those are the traditions David played for exactly your
wonderful it's wonderful for humans Galaxy. Yeah, I think it's
great and those teams like I think.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
So back to your point about competition and it ruling
people's emotions, I think at a base level, people love
to be a part of something bigger than themselves, right.
They love that and they want to be a part
of something that's going to last, and it's going to
last beyond them. It probably was there before they were there.
And I think that's part of why American soccer really struggles,

because you've got big money owners being able to buy
a franchise, paying this commissioner the money to have a team,
building these stadiums, and all of a sudden you have
a team where in Europe and the rest of the world,
they've taken decades, I mean centuries in a sense to
build or over a century to build these teams up

and so you have generations of people experiencing the growth,
experiencing like we talked about the smells, that taste, the sounds,
and that's in your blood at some point, and it's
just harder here for us. It's like, oh, do I
want to go to a concert? Do I want to
get a burger at this place with these friends today?
Do I want to go to that birthday party? Or
will I go to a soccer game? In Europe, they

would all be about the soccer game. We're going to
go to the birthday party and then go to the
soccer game. We're going to go get a burgering and
then go to the soccer games or watch it or
watch it?

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Why would we get a bird? Do you know what
I mean?

Speaker 3 (29:03):
It's oh, yeah, I watched Ted Lasso.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
I know everyone who's gathered at the bar watch it.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
H yeah, it's it's that's their that's their town. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
Did you like Ted Losso?

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Some of it? Some of it I really didn't enjoy
very much.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
Why Well, I thought that they did a great job
at the start, and by that I mean I thought
that they did a great job with character development. I
thought they had fun with showing the difference between the
two footballs and American football and European football soccer. And
then I think what they did was they tried to
probably bring too many riders on and try to bring

all these main characters into their own storylines, and so
then all the main characters stopped interacting with each other. Well,
what's the point of that. We wanted to watch them
go through life together? It's like taking friends, and by
season two all the friends are on their own little storyline.
They don't even interact anymore. But why would I watch that?
You know what I mean? Like any we didn't even
I mean, the team was going forward in a sense,

but yeah, no, I got you.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
I didn't even finish the final season, which, of course
season one and season two I was all in, really
and then the what final season was?

Speaker 2 (30:12):

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Season three? I give up?

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
I don't know what I mean. And it was all
the rage is like, I was so excited about it
coming back, But would you enjoy it? Yeah? But I
guess I couldn't have answered why, But I see what
you're saying about it. Which did you did you watch Friends?
Did you like Friends?

Speaker 2 (30:32):
I did?

Speaker 4 (30:33):
I watched I don't think I've seen Friends all the
way through, to be honest, I know, but I liked
Seinfeld more.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
I thought Seinfeld was more clever. Oh yeah, to put.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
It more simply, And I like clever. I like when
someone's joking on someone else, even if it's a best
friend and they don't get it. I think that's great.
I think it's hilarious. And Friends everything was really on
the nose, and I just kind of.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Was like, Eh, well, so when did your love of
soccer begin?

Speaker 2 (31:00):
How lot the turns you take we went from.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
I mean we could have dove into the all these
different places to get different treatments, and yeah, I want
to hear more about your mom. I've been thinking about
that since she spoke about it, because how did she do?
By the way, how did Mexico go?

Speaker 1 (31:16):
We didn't go.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
You didn't go at all. Oh you didn't even say it. Yeah,
so you don't know.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Well, yeah, we don't know. What would have happened. We
ended up not going. I mean she just she got
to traveling there would have been too risky. Yeah, she
was at such a place that she was too frail.
I mean we went to South Padre, yeah, which is
a beach in South Texas, like for a three day vacation,
and it was miserable because she was just That's when
we realized, like, oh, we can't even go to South

Padre to sit by the My sisters in laws have
a beach house there. So we thought, okay, well we'll
hop on from Austin to South Padre is a thirty
minute southwest flight and the thirty minute flight to the
airport to the car to the beach house. I mean,

my mom sat on the patio. I have a picture
in my room, like I have it framed in my
room and it's and I've wear a locket which has
my mom in it, and it's that picture of her
sitting outside on the patio with her sun hat, but
she had her pajamas on, sun hat. She never left
that that patio, and she was sick the whole time.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
And then she's pretty miserable.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
And so then my sister and I were looking each other,
We're like, why why did we And we forced it.
We were like we should go to the beach and
just relax and enjoy each other. And my mom's bucket
list item was to go on an Alaskan cruise. And
I think this was our alternative to that because a

doctor said, I don't want you to be on a
boat in Alaska for nine days because it's just not
looking good. And you know, the thing is, a year
before that, when my mom was healthier, she still had cancer,
but she was healthier and she went into remission a
few times, but it didn't last long. She said, I
want to go on Alaskan cruise. We said, okay, we

should book it, and she said, well, let's wait and
go next year. And so I guess my encouragement with
that is, I mean, you don't want to assume life
is going to take certain turns such as you know,
terminal cancer, and I don't want to put that type
of energy out there.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
However, if there's something that you.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Want to do, and you can do it, because we
could have done it at that time, but for whatever
reason we put it off. Like, don't put it off
because you know you'll end up in South Padre for
three days and it'll be pretty miserable and you could
have been on an Alaskan cruise year before. So now
my sister and I have that on our bucket list
to do for her. But it's nine years later, we

still haven't done it.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
So I want to know if you've forced anything else
in your life since then? Are you someone who forces things?

Speaker 1 (34:10):
What do you mean?

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Like you said you forced that trip, you and your
sister for.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Yeah, because I think we were we were clinging to
like just we need to do something, we need to
go make a memory. We were desperate sort of like
we were desperate to go to Mexico. But then maybe
if South Padre would have gone better, we would have
gone to Mexico. Or we were we realized, Okay, we couldn't.

If we can't make it to South Texas, we can't
make it to Mexico. So that's that's where we decided
it is. And and there are memorable things that happened
on that trip. You know, I think I gave you
like the o G Pimp and Joy hat, which on

that trip, I was emailing with JD who is the
designer of the Pimp and Joy logo, and you know
the font and the spacing and all the and so
I have very vivid memories of being at the beach house,
exchanging emails and downloading documents and going to my sister

and going to my mom, like Hey, what do you
all think of this? What do you all think of that?
Do you like this? We were all coming up with together.
It was for Pimp and Joy. It was my mom's
That's where it was birth legacy. It was birthed at M. D.
Anderson Hospital in Houston, which is where I encountered a
lot of road rage.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Houston has a lot of traffic.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
The real estates and they don't have zoning there. Do
you know that?

Speaker 1 (35:43):

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Yeah, you can put commercial or residential anywhere you want.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
No idea fun fact.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Tough flow, tough flow down there.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yeah. Well, uh, they would like for you to know
where you're going, what you're doing at all times on
the highway. And I was a visitor. My mom was
at Dana and we lived there for six weeks. We
got her an apartment wow. And I was working for
the Bobby Bone Show, but from a studio in Houston,
like an iHeart an iHeart studio. I would just show

up and work remotely, right next door to Steve Harvey
and his crew. So I met all his people and
that was super fun. Everybody was very nice and welcoming,
and they came over and they're like, hey, you know
we heard you're here, like, anything you need, let us know.
And then I would leave work and I'd have to
get back on the highway and I get flipped off.

A few times. I'd be like and then I was
so emotional, and then I would just cry and I
go to the hospital, like why are people so mean?
And that's why I don't I don't have I don't
have road rage. I didn't before that, but I just have.
You just never know what someone is going through. So
I like to assume if someone you know, has cut
me off accidentally or done something where while they're driving,

like idiot, you know you might think that, but then
you can back up and say, oh, you know what,
I have no idea what their day is like, I
have no idea what they're dealing with. I have no
idea what if they don't even live here, Yeah, and
they're here because of some family emergency and they're stressed
out and they don't know what's going on. And so
I have compassion for that. And it was in the

waiting room that my mom. She had an iPad and
Twitter was a thing, Instagram not so much, but Twitter
listeners wanted to stay up to date with her. Her
journey because I've been talking about it on air, and
so I said, Mom, you need to Twitter. Listeners are
asking about you. You can send updates one hundred and

forty characters or less.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
And so we were trying her.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Joy was her theme, so joyful Judy was taken, Judy
loves joy, Joy, Judy for joy, all the things taken,
take and taken. So jokingly I type in Judy weepimp
and joy. That's right, like the camp been representing. And
so that's how that happened. And then Bobby was like, okay,
this is her Twitter handle. Hashtags were becoming a thing,

so he's like, what about hashtag pimp and joy, which
you'll notice on the black hat it's a hashtag.

Speaker 2 (38:06):

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Yeah, So that is what we were working on at
the beach house. Was the logo. I will forever remember
that part of the trip. I actually remember that more
than I remember like her vomiting and like wanting to
go home.

Speaker 2 (38:19):

Speaker 1 (38:20):
So it's a memory, you know. And I have the
most beautiful picture of her. That picture of her, the
sun is kind of hitting her and she's got the
sun hat on, and yeah, she has her cute little
pjs on. But it's it's my favorite picture now. So
and I wouldn't have that picture if we hadn't gone.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
Yeah, so or the memory did she say that she
had certain memories from that time.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
I don't know that we talked about it. Yeah, it
just went. It honestly just went downhill from there. Gosh,
I know you met my cousin Amanda, and you know
we were talking about her wedding. So the beach trip
was probably like August. And then Amanda got married twenty fourteen,
and Amanda got married in October, and the my mom

died in October. Her wedding was literally one of the
last things my mom did. And my mom is determined
to go. She loved Amanda and she sat on the
front row. But my sister and I we have a
picture of my mom at that wedding and she's we're
sitting next to her.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
And I love that photo too.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Take pictures people, which now you don't so much say
take pictures because we have cell phones. We have cameras
with us. We document things a lot, probably too much,
too much to where shops. We miss out on things.
But I love that picture. But my mom looks very frail.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
She's hurting. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
Yeah, she was very, very, very sick.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
You know. I think it's interesting too what we can
do towards the end of life and what we're we
muster up the strength to do if we're waiting to
do something, and then once we do it, your body
knows to just shut down.

Speaker 2 (39:53):

Speaker 1 (39:54):
I think that's what happened. Dang, But we were talking
about David Becko. That's okay when you're in your love
of soccer. I asked you when and then you pivoted.
Oh I pivoted, and yeah, that's good. It's my show, so.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
It is your show.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
Have you ever tried with road rage just pressing, like
to pivot again, like you fully press in you.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
Just chow road rage?

Speaker 2 (40:17):

Speaker 4 (40:18):
No, no, no, no, no, I mean like in the sense of
I've always had great success and take it if you want.
But if someone's doing flipping you off or really angry,
you just give them like the biggest smile and you
give them a thumbs up and you're like and they
they kind of are like, oh they know they made
a mistake, or they will leave you alone. You ever
tried that?

Speaker 3 (40:38):
No, I mean I think I smile. I don't do
it in a.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Like, I don't exaggerate it or go above them beyond
to make them feel bad.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
I just sort of am like, well, not to make
them feel bad, No.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
You are if you're doing that to be like hey, yeah,
you're like no, well, I've.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Definitely done that.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
I don't mean to say that I haven't done that,
but I do mean it in the sense of just
like you just you press in. You just own it,
like whatever they think you did, You're like, yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
Oh yeah, I own it.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
I will be like if you didn't.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Do that, though, you're just like yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
I think that road rage is interesting because these days
you have to be careful, like someone could pull out
a gun and shoot you.

Speaker 2 (41:15):

Speaker 1 (41:15):
We have those stories on the show from time to time,
and it's such a reminder of you, again, you never
know what someone is really dealing with or going through,
and you may get into an altercation with the wrong
person and then you end up getting shot, And to me,
that's not worth it.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
So I'm just gonna like carry on.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
I'm going to carry on with myself and keep driving
and do my thing, because to me, road rage isn't
the real issue. Their anger and anger is the secondary emotion,
so they have other things they need to deal with.

Speaker 4 (41:48):
But okay, this relates to sports. I think that people
all right. First of all, road rage I think can
be heightened. Whatever someone's dealing with, it can heighten, turn
up the volume on things because you are dealing with danger.
You're dealing with a car moving down the road at speed,
and the financial cost even if you bump into someone

in a parking lot is high. You know, it's it
can be something that people really like. Have you ever
watched Formula one stuff or any of the Drive to
Survive on Netflix. That's another one that's really popular right now. Well,
there's a story there Michael Schumacher. He's not on Drive
to Survive, but a famous Formula one racer German guy

way back in the day. It's too much to explain
with how the points work, but basically he was on
the outside of a turn and a guy came in
on the inside of him and he just fully dive
bombing into the side of the guy and he wrecked
them both. They both got knocked out of the race, right,
so race is over for them. Both the point standings
were going to stay where they were. Neither of them

get points for the day and he gets out of
his car, fuming mad, fuming mad, storms across the track,
across the infield. People are trying to talk to him,
calm him down, and he won't have any of it.
He's super angry at this other guy. I can't believe
he hit me. I can't believe he hit me. That's
basically just what he's saying in Germany. He's just upsetted

this other guy. And they got to that. He got
to his garage and his team manager and he was like,
this guy needs to be penalized. I can't believe he
did this. He knew what he was doing. And they
were like, Michael, you need to look at the tape.
You need to see that you hit that guy. And
he was like no, no, no, no, and they sat him
down and they said he sat in there in silence
for like five ten minutes, couldn't believe he was the

one that hit the guy. Because I mean, again, it's
Formula one, the speeds are way high. But I think
that that can happen in a in a setting like
a car, and I went way off on attention there,
but in sports, I think that because you feel this
intensity was something in a sense. It's not speed where
you're in a car and you're racing down the road,
but there is a speed to there's a clock right.

The thing is coming to an end, and what happens
at the end means something about who you are, and
you've attached yourself to that, so that the volume on
emotions just get turned up. And what happens there is
that I think you have to realize as a human,
to realize things you need to work on and where
you have health and where you have maybe not so
much health, is when the emotions don't fit the circumstance.

You have to learn that those emotions are from somewhere
else to your point, that's a good thing to learn,
and sports, I think can reveal that.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
You know. It's sort of like saying, like people can
say sports are bad, you didn't say sports are bad.
You just didn't understand it. You don't understand it, but
like people, I.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Loved going to the soccer game. I love going to
a Titans game. I love playing sports.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Do you really what do you like to play? It's tennis,
ping pong, ping pong, Yes, I'll play with my right.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
Hand, pickleball.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
I played softball, volleyball, basketball, tennis. Those are all the
sports I played when I was a kid. Was I amazing? No,
but I and then I did dance, I did cheerleading,
like I liked just doing things like I liked being
a part of a team. You know, I'm good at
free throws, no way my specialty.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Okay, shout out. You're very good at gift giving. I
think you're a great at gift giving.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
It's not a sport, but I think if it was,
you have like a you have a jersey with a
good number on it.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Oh, which, speaking up, we should talk about David's jersey
twenty three. What's the significance to twenty three? And then
let's wrap with also the significance of seven?

Speaker 4 (45:31):
Oh dang, interesting thing to wrap with. Well, twenty three.
Most people in America would equate to Michael Jordan. Yes,
he is the greatest of all time, greatest basketball player ever,
had one of the biggest impacts on the game, and
in some ways, like Beckham, he was a first of
his kind. You know, as the money was getting bigger

for all the reasons, TV ride sponsorship deals, all that
kind of stuff, and winning Championships. Beckham when he started
at Manchester United. Fact checkers get me if I'm wrong,
but I think he was number ten. And in football soccer,
you give a position a number, and it's not always
that that position wears that number, but sometimes it's that way,

and a ten is sort of an attacking midfielder. He
played on the right side. He was a winger. Yeah,
there's ways you can say that, but number seven was
already taken.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
I fact checked it.

Speaker 1 (46:23):

Speaker 4 (46:23):
Yeah, yeah, So he was ten first and that was
largely because well, I don't know if he wanted seven,
but it was largely because at Manchester United seven was
this I think it was Eric Kenson on this Frenchman.
He's attacking player, famous daring. He was the guy that
Beckham even looked up to. When he leaves, Beckham gets
seven and seven is kind of a number that people

would say is like your artist in a lot of sense.
He's out on the edge. He's a playmaker, he's going
to create things, He's going to do beautiful things. Beckham,
he how would you say that? He made that number
even more special And there have been a lot of
players that made it special. But then you got to
think about. People think he's an all world and he was,
and he was an icon. So Real Madrid tripled their

revenue by signing him. But when he came there, they
already had a number seven in Raoul who had won
three Champions Leagues with Real Madrid before Beckham even gets there.
So it's sort of like, yeah, you're a big dog, David,
but you can't just come in the team and take
this guy's number. I mean, he's this guy's a legend too.
In some sense, he's worth more money than you. He's
just not a beautiful englishman that's dealt with an international

press and married an international superstar.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
Wife, very beautiful.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Yeah, yeah, so you pick twenty three, I guess.

Speaker 1 (47:39):

Speaker 2 (47:39):
I'm sure he speaks more about that. You can google
it with the Turkish here transplant.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
I mean, I am curious, which we don't have time
to get into it, but maybe what your thoughts are on.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
Did you talk about we talk about seven?

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Yeah? Yeah we did. We talked about seven. This is
googling most interesting podcas this is great like something, and I.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Was like, okay, I'll let him talk about the numbers
real quick.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
I talked to the wall.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
But the uh no, no, no, no no, because I was well,
first of all, I had to google if he was ten,
and then that that got me looking at something else.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
You got me looking at something else.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
And you don't go to your phone with a purpose,
it's going to own you.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
Yeah, And did you got got?

Speaker 3 (48:22):
I got Got by David Beckham.

Speaker 2 (48:23):

Speaker 3 (48:25):
I keep reading about other things.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
I'm just very fascinated too with how normal he seems
with Victoria and their life now. And you would just
think they would be a little more obnoxious and they're not.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Yeah. Yeah, I think that's a great point.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
But but that wasn't where I was going.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
I had to explain my distraction by my phone, while
you explained the numbers.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
They do that consciously, by the way, it'll come back
to you.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
What do you mean?

Speaker 4 (48:49):
Well, he says it straight up in the documentary of
like we want to try and give our children the
most normal upbringing that we can.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Well he even said he was surprised that they're not little.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
Yeah, they could be little, say yeah, so I think
we can watch that and think, oh, that makes sense
for them to make a conscious effort to give them
a normal upbringing. I think that that's something that we
can all choose to do.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
Right now.

Speaker 4 (49:12):
I have kids, but like the idea of with a family,
and like, it does take effort. You have to be
conscious about how you're raising your kids. And obviously they're
both very high achievers and they have to realize looking
for us to join here be a team together husband,
wife and raise kids, how are we going to do that?
And then they try to walk in it. That's that's great.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Yeah, that's great. Well, I don't remember my thought a
second ago. It's fine next time. Yeah, it was an
additional soccer thought I think of, like continuing this conversation.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Yeah, we didn't do a whole lot of soccer. We
did a little bit of soccer.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
But well, I mean this will be clearly going to
be an ongoing thing till twenty twenty six, until the
World Cup comes four things, because I feel like, no.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
Oh, Ronaldo, Ronaldo.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
No, no, no, no, it was based on something you
were saying, but I didn't know if you hit on
seven the numbers?

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, seven, Eric Kentona, Oh the transfer fees.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Nope, I don't think we'll get there, so we should
just well, hey, this.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Is your podcast, I can talk football soccer.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Well, you never answered when you first fell in love
with soccer?

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Do you want me to know? Yes.

Speaker 4 (50:26):
I grew up with brothers and a sister and an
athletic household. We played all sorts of sports when I
got to and all of them were great to me.
When I was in middle school and I had my
first concussion, I then went into football, tackle football with
helmets and all that pads and all that jazz, and

had another concussion. And the doctors again not knowing everything
that they know now, and they were basically getting to
a point of saying, look, we might have to pull
you out of all sports for a year and just
tell you to not do anything, because you know, your
nauge is here, your nause is there, your body's off,
you're doing this brains game. And I just said, look,

I can give up American football. I just want to play.
I want to be a kid. And so at that
point I started to gravitate towards more I mean soccer,
still contact, but more non contact sports. And then I
didn't fall in love with I had a great coach,
great high school experience, didn't that money, We didn't play travel.
I played all the other sports still and then to

just finish the story, I went to the University of
Alabama my freshman year and the only time I would
go to the library was to watch Manchester United play
and number seven at the time, Christiano Ronaldo. They had
a TV there that you could writ headphones for and
they had two channels that were fuzzy, and one of them,
for whatever reason, was Manchester United playing and showing Christiano

Ronaldo games. And he was taking off at that point.
I mean, he was eighteen, nineteen twenty and I had
never seen anything like it. I've never been able to
watch on TV. And I was like, you don't just
play the game, you emulate the best. And then I
spent every class in college after that just watching YouTube
videos of that guy.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
Yeah, every class in college.

Speaker 4 (52:10):
Yeah, I didn't. I didn't pay attention at all. You
just do the clicker and boom. And I didn't buy
books for college.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
I think.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
I mean, I'm sorry, Alabama, saorry, University of Tennessee. I
think they because you were both. Yeah, it's a joke.
University is a joke for me, I thought, and maybe
I'm I know it can be difficult, but I thought
I would just teach myself.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
The stuff you just didn't pay attention. You had to
attend the class.

Speaker 4 (52:31):
Okay, attend the class, study the stuff you need to
and then you just yeah, get your quizzes and test
done and graduate. Just get out of there. I didn't
want to be there. I wish I had left. I
wish I had gone to Europe instead of going.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
To college to play soccer.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
Yeah, I wasn't.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
I got much better as a player after during college
and after college because I was an athlete, but I
didn't understand the game. I didn't know what was what. Yeah,
there's much I want to say that. You got me
pumped up. Now, thanks for let me tell my mom
why I love the game.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Love your mom. I love you mom.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
Hey, okay, all right.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Normally I'm like, okay, so because guests that I have
on them, like, so where can people find you?

Speaker 3 (53:12):
But you're not like super active social.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
I'm trying to get like edge sheer and I'm not
going to even have a phone or anything. Yeah, one day,
what we'll do? Yeah, street kings start stops most.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Yes, I think that that's probably our next conversation is
how you feel, you know, because I think the soccer
conversations are important again two years till the World Cup.
I'm going to be like a bandwagon soccer fan, but
you have a heart for soccer and soccer changing lives

and impacting community, and there is a story behind that,
similar to Pimp and Joy and in other ways just
I think that would be an encouragement to anybody that's
just looking to make a difference and maybe when they
hear about it, it's not going to be through soccer,
but it's just encouraging it to be with what could

this look like for you and in your community. So yeah,
Street Kings will be an interesting upcoming conversation.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
I hope you all are having the day that you
need to have and.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
I'll see you on Saturday for Outweigh, next Tuesday for
Fifth Thing, and then four Things will be back next Thursday.

Speaker 3 (54:25):

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