#573 - Bailey Zimmerman: Country Rockstar Life, Mom's New House & Car Obsession

Bailey Zimmerman is back to break down the real “country rockstar” life—from his coffee 'replacement habit' to his car obsession and why he refuses to sell anything. Then it turns serious as he shares the full story behind the viral videos with his mom, her health scare, and buying and rebuilding her a house. Plus, Bailey and Bobby talk arena pressure, the fear of losing it all, and what he’s building for his biggest tour yet.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
You are the second episode Crazy only behind Kenny.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'm very honored, honestly, very honored.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Yeah, when you asked me to do this, I was like,
this is actually really cool, Like you could have asked
anybody to do this, and I wanted to be on
this couch.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Well, I did ask a lot of people to do it,
and still you're the only person that you're behind, is Kenny.
Do you take offence that you're behind Kenny?

Speaker 3 (00:26):
No? I don't, of course, Okay, I don't take a
fence to anything, dude.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
I'm blessed.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
So here we are.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
You're extremely jittery. I want to say this. We've known
each other for a long time, so I feel comfortable
just going right to it. You're extremely jittery.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Oh yeah, coffee.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Just so people know, we're recording this at three pm
and Bailey comes in. He's drinking coffee and he's like,
coffee in the morning. It's three pm. Yeah, so it's
coffee new to you.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Kind of like have used it as just like a
thing to help me quit a bunch of like, you know,
things I wanted to quit in life, and it's really worked.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
So you're replacing something else with not such a bad thing.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
You know, I'm like, dude, I'd rather be like drinking
too much coffee than drinking too much tequila, you know,
trying drink like like certain vices that I wanted to
like get rid of. I was just like, Okay, how
could I do that and kind of replace it with
just something like a slightly lesser vice. Yeah, so coffee
is really good for me.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, you're already a pretty energetic guy. Oh yeah, does
it jack you up even more? It's kind of.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Interesting some like a lot of the times, no, because
it's allegedly allegedly I'm not like speaking fact here, but
allegedly people with ADHD like caffeine and things that usually
hype up everybody else kind of like adderall to like
everybody else would hype them up.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
It brings us down.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
So a lot of the times it doesn't bring me up,
but sometimes it does give me these like where I'm
just like jittery. So I'm not like it doesn't give
me more energy. I just like am jittery.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
I guess caffeine doesn't really affect me. It doesn't matter
when I drink it. Maybe for a similar reason.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Probably honestly, Yeah, that would make sense.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, my doctor has told me that it's either I
have a dash of OCD or super ADHD.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
It's probably both. A lot of the times I feel
like I.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Have all of it.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
I'm like, dude, I have all of.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
This, dude, Yeah, what did you drive up here today?
I drove my Cadillac. I just bought an Escalade Vay.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
I know nothing about cars, So tell me what a
Cadillac escalate V is because I can picture a black
catallac escalate like an suv.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
But what's the difference? So I mine's white and the like,
So what's cool about it? Escalate V? So like there's
an escalade But then my escalate V is a super
charge six to two, So like the motor.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Is like faster. Is there a time you would ever
need a fast escalade suv?

Speaker 3 (03:06):
There? And honestly, is just the sound. I just love
the sound of it. That's also why I bought my
Lamborghini as well. So I just wanted the sound to
hear it. Lamborghini car, Yeah, bought it.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Bought one of the cars with the V ten in it.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
So those things are really low. Yeah, he's great. I
don't know yet I bought it out in La and
no yet, it's not here.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
It's not here.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
I sent it to New Jersey because I was doing
some work. I can't leave nothing alone, dude, my grandpa.
So so I don't know you probably know this about me,
but my family. Oh real quick. My mom said that
she loves you, and she told me to tell you
that this morning. And I'm a man of my word.
My mom loves you, and I want.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
To talk about her in just a second because I
love your mom.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yes, so, but not that way.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
No, right right, Bailey, you're my son.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
No daddy, Bobby, daddy bone.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
This is a weird time to tell me now on Netflix, will,
I had to break it to you here.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
My mom comes through the door. She's like intervention. Everybody
grabs a chair, so she starts like playing with my hair, Bailey,
that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Okay, you say you say your card?

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Anyways, Yeah, so you know, my family owned dealership growing up.
I worked there.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
We you know, built race cars and built everything. And
my grandpa couldn't leave nothing alone vehicle wise, my dad,
my brother, and my whole family. So I kind of
like have that really like like that hobby. I guess
and so yeah, I sent it to New Jersey and
varn Built. It's like this dude, his name's Varner, and

(04:40):
he's gonna like make it sick. And then there's also
this dude named Switch one name, it's just Varner Built.
It's just what he calls the shop.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Feels like those are guys you'd meet in prison. Well,
he doesn't look like he gave me in prison. I
don't know. Notice saying those one name guys feel like
the those are guys you meet up with rikers, you know, Yeah, yeah,
like how'd you get that nickname? So what are they doing?

Speaker 2 (05:05):
I think his name is his last name's Varner.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
But what are they doing to your car? Are they?
What are they doing to make it all right?

Speaker 3 (05:11):
So I'm gonna do like a bunch of like body panels.
So I'm gonna do a new rear bumper and a
new real like wing, and then I'm gonna do side
skirt diffusers. I'm gonna do a front new bumper with
a diffuser and it'll just make it look like badass.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
The only thing I know about a difuser is I
have one of those I do my hair with, okay
and has a clause.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Actually, you know what a diffuser on a car is
almost the same thing kind of not the same thing
as your hair, but like it does have these like
big things that set it lower to the ground, and
it looks like it.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
If you looked at one right now, you'd be like, okay, similarity.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
So how much to ship your car to New Jersey
and then get it here? Hmm, Like that's got to
be another fifteen thousand dollars right?

Speaker 3 (05:58):
No?

Speaker 2 (05:58):
No, actually it was like I got a deal.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Also, like my grandpa, I love a deal like Facebook marketplace, bro,
love a good deal.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
You shipped a Lamborghini on Facebook Marketplace. No, No, I
don't know much, but that does.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Not sound I'm just saying Facebook Marketplace. You know how
you just find deals on there and you can just
haggle and get a better price. And you know, just
Facebook Marketplace, man, the culture of Facebook Marketplace, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
No, but dude, you got to honest. Anyways, I'm a haggler.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
I'm a haggler, and dude, I think I shipped it
out there for like twenty five hundred bucks from La
who took it one eyed Willie.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
No, a real company they had real insurance. Yeah, it
was a real thing.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
All good, yep, and how long? Because I think if
I bought something like that, i'd want it.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Oh it kills me.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
I'm like, I like when I walk outside, I just
try to imagine what it's going to look like like
in my driveway.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
I'm like, I cannot wait to see this thing. I'm
so excited.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
It's it's honestly like like cars are, and trucks and
just anything with a motor or anything you can cuss
a miser. I'm just like addicted, like like real addiction.
Like I don't do it for like the clout or
the what. I do it like, I love it so much,
like when you turn that car over quickly though this

(07:14):
I keep everything. And the reason I keep all my
cars is because I remember when my dad growing up
and my grandpa growing up, they'd be like, man, I
wish after everything was said and done, I really didn't
need to sell that car. I would, you know, figured
out how to keep it and this and that. I
wish I had kept that car in this car, And
I don't want to be that guy when I'm older.

(07:35):
I want to have like cars for my grandkids and things,
and so as long as I don't need to sell them,
I'm not going to.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
But then if I need to, I will.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Do you have a warehouse?

Speaker 2 (07:43):
No, I'm running out of room. It's getting it's becoming
a problem.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah. Yeah, you don't have a girlfriend yet.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
No.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
No, see, I think that's when it changes a bit.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
I'm really hoping that she loves it too, and then
it becomes even more of a problem.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
And I just you want her to love cars and
ship him off for diffusers with one. I willie up
to New Jersey.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
How cool if she was like she came to me,
my girlfriend's like, hey, look at this Facebook marketplace car
I just found. We could totally put this motor in
this car and make this this cool car. I'd be like,
oh my gosh, marry me, bro, please God, would you
be open.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
To marrying a broll?

Speaker 3 (08:26):
You know? Honestly, you know, listen, he loved cars enough. Honestly,
I would say that my best friend. I am married
to my best friend. His name's Josh. He runs a
company called Maxed Diesel, and he like he helps me.
His company not only does it for everybody else, but
he like helps me. Like I'll be like Hey, I
want this, and then he'll go to the company and
get a deal, get it shipped to the shop, have

(08:46):
it done, and then it's good.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
So he kind of takes care of it.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
He's a uh they call him a build manager, so
he like manages a truck build or a car build
or whatever. Right, so we are basically like married. I'm
on the phone with him probably four hours out of day,
five hours out of the day, just talking about cars and.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
What we're doing and this and that and whatever.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
That's your number one passion other than other than music
and work and sometimes probably they probably dance.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah, No, music is the most important thing in my life.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Not important, not important. But do you spend the most
time thinking about music?

Speaker 5 (09:19):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Yeah, I mean that's like, oh gosh, yeah, ninety eight
percent of my life is music, tour, future, like writing,
trying to like have plans and yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Can you guess what mine is? Hm, you're right, your
mom my mom?

Speaker 2 (09:37):
That's awful. Is this like a roast mean session or
something about my mom?

Speaker 4 (09:41):
Now?

Speaker 1 (09:42):
I love your mom, I love the videos and.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
My mom loves you. On the phone. Brought I actually
brought this up. It was my fault. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yes, and that's, you know, just a message to all
the you know girls out there. I am a guy
that will say I messed up. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
That was my fault.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
I brought that up.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
I shouldn't even have said it, but I had to
because I'm not. Also because you're on my word. And
she told me, will you tell it? And I said, yes, Mom,
I'll tell him that you love him.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
So the last time I saw your mom was on
your on your TikTok videos. Yes, and oh gosh, did
you did you think they would go that viral?

Speaker 2 (10:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
I I honestly was like kind of frantically trying to
make a video about it because I hadn't really focused
on like or like planned how I was going to
video it. I was really just focused on like making
it like because we oh my gosh, dude, that took
like six months to redo the whole house inside because
it was really old and needed just like updating.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
So when you okay, let me let me just talk
to you, just so people know. So Bailey around Christmas
had posted a TikTok and he surprised his mom in
the new house. Yes, and then you ended up surprising
her with an SUV.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
It was it a Cadillac V just a catialag. It
was white though it was white. I thought it was
so good and so yeah, I wondered how long was
the process to it? Was that a house that she
had seen before that she liked? Was it a neighborhood
you wanted to live in? How did you know where?
What to do?

Speaker 3 (11:07):
It's like, it's like the craziest, coolest story. So like, Okay,
I'm gonna, I'm gonna get into this.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeh, it's really cool.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yea.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
It means stretch out up time. There you go.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
It's so cool and it means so much to everybody,
Like the kids these days would say, the lore behind
all of this is crazy. So starting off January of
last year, after ken Kun crash my Plia, we get
home from crash my Plia and my mom gets really

(11:40):
sick and she like is in the hospital like on
a ventilator, like might die sick. Like she's like she
was one day away from dying. Basically she had went
through Man, it was it was twenty twenty two days
on a vent or twenty three days.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, it was. It was really crazy.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
It was I was going to the hospital between tour
and between everything, and like you know, staying at the
hospital on my bus and then going to see her,
and we all honestly thought she was like not gonna
make it. And then one day she just woke up
and like was good and like you know, the event
came out and everything was good and now she's alive.

(12:20):
But at that moment when she was just like really sick,
she was like down kind of like rock bottom, you know,
like she all that time in the in the hospital
made her quit smoking cigarettes. So where my brain was like, man,
she's really had a hard time. She's gonna come out
of the hospital. I really need to try to get
her a house, because she didn't have a house at

(12:40):
the time. She had been written this one, but I
don't know, it was a mess. So that's what gave
me the idea, like, man, I really need to make
my mom comfortable because you know, she's now off cigarettes
and off of everything. She could kind of come out
of this and be really healthy and like kind of
get her life back, you know. And like so and
before this, she had been on it oxygen tank because

(13:00):
she smoked so much and it was just a bad deal.
So I was like, Okay, I want to get her
a house and make sure she's set up so she
feels like she can like go work out and get
her life back and you know, not have to worry
about anything else.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
So that's where it started.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
And then so the lore behind the house was I
when I started looking, there was this one house in
town that my mom's best friend, her name was Jonie,
and it caddy cornered my grandma's house. And my mom
had grew up on that land riding dirt bikes where
that house was built. And Joni was my mom's best friend.

(13:36):
So Jonie built the house and she ended up dying
in two thousand and nine and it was a really
really bad time for my mom, and that house had
just always been a lot to her. And then it
got sold to other people and I ended up buying
that house. Like that house is Jonie's house she built,
so it's my mom's best friend that isn't with us anymore.

(13:59):
She built that house and it caddy corners my grandma,
So now my mom can go right over to my
grandma's help, her grandma can come to her house. It's
like a god given like blessing man, like, so just
like it being my mom's best friend that's not with
us anymore, her house.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
It's right next to my grandma. How did you find
it was available? Were they just selling it at the time?

Speaker 2 (14:18):
It wasn't even on the market.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
They had heard through somewhere that I was looking for land,
and they got ahold of somebody, and I was like, yeah,
I'll buy this. This is I didn't know you guys
were wanting to sell it because somebody had told me
they weren't. But then they heard that I had asked somebody,
so they hit me up and I ended up buying it.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
So then do you start renovating it?

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (14:36):
So and then when I got in there, I was like,
oh gosh, I just bought the house. Why would I
give her this house that needs a lot of work done? Like,
I don't know, I'll always like my mom had, like
has always tried to give me like the best of
the best whenever she didn't have it. And I'm like,
I'm at a point in my life where I've been
very very blessed in like you know, the success and everything.
And I was like, I'm gonna give her a fully

(14:58):
new house and this is I'm just gonna do it,
and I know I won't regret it, you know, in
the future, you know, I'll just have to let's you know,
keep working hard, you know. But so we went in
like yeah, made it all new and black and white,
and I gave.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Her like a chill area and chain and rebuild the
house like the revisions.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Right around like probably four months or so.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Was it hard to stay quiet about it as it
was happening, So she had I had went with her
to the house because she thought I was looking for
a house, so.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
I had took her and she was like, oh, yeah,
Jinie's house. I'm like, yeah, I don't know, did it?
And then from then on she didn't really know much.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
And I think she had this suspicion because there were
so many people there and there's not anybody in town
that would buy that. So and I hadn't said anything,
but she didn't say anything about it. So we just
didn't say anything.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
I thought my grandma was.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Going to ruin it, dude, Oh, your grandma knew.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
My grandma knew a little bit because she overheard some stuff.
And then I was like, you better just chill out.
And when you want to say something, chill out, don't
say nothing. Did your grandma not to say anything? I did,
because we had the little hey Like I was like, Yo,
we're just gonna chill out right, Yeah no, So yeah

(16:17):
it was.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
It was so fun.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
And my brother, my brother John, shout out my brother John.
He really helped me like do it all and kind
of contracted the thing and helped make sure everything was right.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Oh man, he was back home while I was like
doing all this stuff.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
So were you trying to be Christmas?

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (16:33):
That was like our thing. I really wanted to get
it in by Christmas. And oh man, there's this guy
named Mike Owen. Shout out Mic oh and shout out
John Logan zinc. Oh my gosh. These guys pulled through
on like Saturday like that, you know, the weekend before
sighted the whole thing, painted the door, painted the thing
they were painting on Christmas Eve like they were painting
the door and stuff like my my town like came together.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Dude. It was unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
When you drove her by, When you drove her too, well,
why were you driving by? Were you going to your
grandma's house finger quotes or what?

Speaker 3 (17:05):
I was just like driving around and I was just like, yeah,
let's just go drive around. And then is that something
you would do?

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Just go drive around?

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (17:12):
She was like why and I was like I don't know.
She's like okay, oh, I told her we were making
a video.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
God, oh I needed to make it.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
There had to be a better Floyd than just driving around.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Okay, lets you drive around. Oh, I need to make
a video.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
And then yeah, and so when you drive by, that's
her reaction, her genuine reaction.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
It was really like when I was like I So
it was really cool because I was like sitting there
editing the video as everybody's over at the house and
everybody's like we knew about it and like all the things.
And I remember I showed my mom's best friend Bridget
the video. I'm like, hey, do you think this like
looks good?

Speaker 2 (17:47):
And like do you like this?

Speaker 3 (17:48):
And like the three seconds and she's like already crying
and I'm like okay, yeah, post like okay, so good.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
So I saw that video. But then it was like
there's more. It was like one of those nineties commercials
that come on us, there's more. It plays it chops,
there's more, and then you back the truck the suv
out of the garage. Yes, what she suspecting that at all?

Speaker 3 (18:10):
No, like again, and like there was a lot of
people like she kind of seemed more overwhelmed about the
car than she did the house. And I'm like, and
she was telling me because she reads all the she
was like, She's like, I can't keep reading comments, all
these comments, anyone negative. I just want to I just
want to DM and I just want to tell him off.
And I'm like, mom, just it's okay, like just chill out.

(18:32):
But she was going to reading the comments. She was like,
everybody thinks I was more excited about the car than
the house, but really the car was just too much
and it really just sent me over the edge because
you know, like you would to take take too much
care of me, and so it was like it was
really cool and like, but yeah, she was really surprised
when when everybody was in the garage because I did

(18:52):
the same thing for my grandma. There's another video of
me giving my grandma car and I just used the
same like for the video and how to like surprise
her with it. I just used the same like kind
of idea and yeah, oh man, I can't remember when
I when I did that. It was my grandma's It
was my grandma's birthday. Yeah, it was like everybody hides

(19:14):
in the garage. And then because I didn't know, I
was like, Okay, I can't be in the garage cause
she's gonna be like, what's going on. So I was like, hey,
I need to I said the same thing because we
always make videos when I'm back home, So I was like, hey,
I need to make another video. I didn't one earlier,
didn't do I don't know, I need to redo it.

(19:34):
And she was like okay, and then I just started
video and I was like it did.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
It was so funny because she was like, you did this,
like you did this to grandma and now it's like
flipped on me.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
So yeah, it was. Man, it's like what you.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Dream of, like literally as a kid, and you watch
it in the movies, you know the rock star like
you know takes care of his family, and you like,
it's just everything I was taught growing up too. Just
like when you get the chance to help people that
helped you, Like, man, my mom, we've talked about this,
the fifteen hundred dollars that my mom gave me to
record my first song. I quit my job and needed
fifteen hundred dollars to become a country singer. Like how

(20:09):
does how crazy does that sound? And she was just like, yeah,
perfect didn't have fifteen hundred dollars.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
It gave you to me.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
So it's like, man, I still got more to do,
you know, like she still deserves more because I would
not be here without that fifteen hundred Where would I
be now? You know?

Speaker 5 (20:25):
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Speaker 1 (20:42):
It's funny because whenever I started to have success, what
I bought my mom was somewhere to live in some land.
There were two things that I have a joke that
I was doing in my stand up. It was like
when I first started, and you're gonna see where this
is going. It was when I first started to make money.
I bought the two tea's. I bought my mom a
trailer and I bought me tea nice Okay, because I
had bad teeth growing up my whole life. I didn't

(21:03):
get to go to the dentist until I was in
my twenties. Yeah, I feel, dude, I feel, and so
I don't know. I think that's why, Like I like,
I really like you, and like I've told you before
you get in trouble, you call me, I'll come get you,
no matter where it is. And yeah, like because we
come from a very similar background. Yeah, and then I
just watch you and I message you about your teeth
when you got new teeth. I was like, dude, everything

(21:24):
you're doing now, like that's what I did. Like that's
some country people coming up and actually like having some success.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
It's it's like I remember the first time that we
got on your podcast, was that at your old house.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
It was and that was the first interview you had
ever done.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Yeah, I never Oh, dude, I was so scared. Dude,
I walked in. I was like, dude, I'm so scared.
I think I told you that. I was like, Dude,
I am kind of really scared right now because I
have no idea what's going on. And everybody's saying that
like dude, you're like this, like I don't even know
what's going on, and like I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
I don't know what Bobby Bones is.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
I'm just starting music, Like I just came from this
trailer park, and that first time, that's what like really
kind of kicked us off, was like, oh, we're like
almost the same.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Yeah, how often do you get home? Now?

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Now?

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Did I have a house, my mom's house somewhere to
like go that. Now it's like, I really try to
be back home a bunch because I feel I now,
I like when I go home, now, I feel like
I don't want to leave, Like I love laying on
the couch and chilling my mom, just like hanging out.
So I'm going to get back home a lot more.

(22:28):
But before that, it was like living in my I
was living in my bus there, and which I love
my tour bus, you know, and it's like awesome, but
it's like you're cooped up on it ten months out
of the year. You don't really want to go back
home and be cooed. Don't ont a tour bus, I guess.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
So also, would people know for sure that you were
there now since your big old tour bus apart, Yeah
it could.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
You know. It's sometimes got a little weird, but it's like,
you know, but and honestly I love it too, Like
I just remember, like, dude, how cool would it be
just to be like, dude, this a tour bus. Like
you've never seen a tour bus. So I'm usually like
really cool and I love like showing people the tour bus.
I get so much like enjoyment out of that. But

(23:09):
it is nice to now have a house.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Yeah you have a pool?

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Oh? Was that that's gonna be the hot spot this summer?

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Was that I must have when you were buying your
first house?

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Well, my first house.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Yeah, you just bought a house. Well my mom, so
my mom's house back home. But you have a pool
too your house, yes, yes, And now if you just
bought a house for you, you're buying it. You're buying
houses and cars, and but you bought your own house here. Yeah, yes,
you have a nice pool.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Oh it's awesome. Did you have to have a pool?

Speaker 2 (23:35):
I really wanted a pool.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
And for the same reason that I thought, man, I
went to my my people that you know, manage all
my money because I am smart and well I wouldn't
say I'm smart.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
I graduated high school.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
But I want to be smart with my money and
I want to I don't want to be the kid
that you threw it all the way. So I've got
a lot of people that watch that, and I was like, hey,
can I can I afford a house with a pool
comfortab like even if things just went downhill, you know,
can I still just have that like maybe for a
little bit and then if I need to have sell
it or.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Whatever, you know? And they were like yeah, like yeah,
you're good.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
And I was like okay, And it's like that thing
where I they're dude, I never had a pool grown up, Like,
oh my gosh, that's like.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
One kid in our neighborhood to have a pool. One
kid and it wasn't even that good of a pool,
but he had a pool, so he was rich.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
No right, yeah, And that's like we had a friend
Clayton Simms. We had to beg him because he knew
he was like in control of the pool. Yeah, and
he sometimes he'd be like sometimes literally be like, man, no,
I don't know about today guys like get kept the pool. Yeah,
so yeah, like it's just a big deal. I was like,
I really want a pool to go jump in in

(24:47):
the summer and have pool parties.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
And I guess I I.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Woke up one morning and all of a sudden, I
was like this song was viral that I'd just written
and it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Even a full song yet.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Dude, you're talking way back, way back in the day.
Ride a flashback, but you didn't give us the shaky
screen jay flashback.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Okay, go flashback.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
I'm in my bed, my mom trailer right, and I
wake up and my song, a part of a song
that wasn't fully written yet.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Just went violent TikTok.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
And I'm just like, I'm gonna quit my job and
I'm not like, dude, I'm gonna do country me with
the rest of my life because this one little thing,
like I had so much believe in myself and then
all of a sudden, like I'm kind of in these
moments where I just keep thinking like I've seen this
in the movies, So I kind of just started making
decisions like like I saw in the movies, Like in

(25:37):
the movies, the rich famous guy buys's mama house and
takes care of the people that took care of him,
and then you know, like he has the crazy.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Pool parties in the summer. I kind of referenced Nickelback
a lot. I'de mat like, I just.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
I'd like to say, you know, just pool parties and
having fun and making sure you're enjoying the fruits of
your labor, but also you know, like taking care of
everybody else. And I think I just like, yeah, dude, like,
so imagine you just wake up and you're just in
this rock star movie and dude, like, I guess I'm
just that's it.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah, It's just like, is it weird movie you to have?

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Because it was weird for me to hire somebody to
handle my money because I never had money, and then
I'm paying somebody five percent. That was weird too, to
give to pay somebody money to take care of my
money because I didn't want people in my money. That
was the most part to.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
Understand it all, because I think that's what made me
so nervous when I first gave up the freedom was
I didn't understand it.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
So me not understanding it, they could.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
Say and do whatever they want because I have no
idea what they're talking about.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
So but oh yeah, I would have.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
I still have the same conversations where I call my
business manager. Yeah, I didn't even know what that was.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
Yeah, like I don't know what a businessman knows what
a businessman for sure, Yeah, but I'll call because I'm
very close to her because now she's been like my
person for ten years. Yeah, very close, And I'll go
can I get this car now?

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Every time?

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Are you scared before you call? Still?

Speaker 1 (27:00):
I just I'm still. I need to have such a
gap between if I buy the car and being poor.
I need her to go to you're fine, like you
are so good your life, your quality life will not change. Yes,
if you buy whatever it is you're asking, and that's
the only time that I'll buy it.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
That's I'm the same way. It's like, am I so
so good?

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Like if if I ask them, so I'm scared to
ask them because I really want to invest in my
future and I know they're going to say, well, you
could invest this in your future and you don't have
to buy this car.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
But I'm so scared to ask them for that reason.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
But then if I go, hey, can I buy this
car and it's not like yep, first, I'm like, no,
you hesitated.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
I don't want to ever go back to where I was, Like,
I want to not be the kid that you know
throws it all away. And I just keep thinking that
every single time, dude. But I'm still like, if.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
They say yes to I still have it yeah, every time.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah, and it's it's honestly the poor kid.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
I was on a podcast day and they were like,
what what keeps you just you know, grinding like you
do and like, you know, working as hard as you do.
And I'm just like the poor kid in the trailer
that didn't have anything and had one pair of jeans
to wear a school all year and one pair of
shoes for a year and a half until the souls
were flopping off, like that kid that didn't eat sometimes

(28:19):
the kid, you know what I'm saying Like that, that is,
like I think, is why we'll probably always like just
be like that, cause I don't think that'll ever go away.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
You know, you can't forget that you know a lot
older than you. But I've been in a very similar
situation where all this is new and crazy and you
just think it can be pulled out from under you
at any time.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
But yeah, oh yeah, this being scared to lose it
all is that's what keeps you up at night.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
My business manager at a point had to say, hey,
you need to stop overpaying your bills and give us
full control now, because I would overpay them thinking if
I was ever fired, I needed a buffer.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Okay, Okay, I get it.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Oh yeah, but that's what I was doing, and I
was doing really well, but I was still like paying.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Because that is the way we were raised. If you
can get ahead on bills.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
When something bad does happen, you're you're okay, they won't
shut off your power.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
It's so funny. Like and anybody listeners right now understands
if you've lived.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
That, like, you get it.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
She was like, you have to stop overpaying your bills, yeah,
because they just keep sending us checks back. And I'm like,
but I want to be good in case I'm ever
not good, right.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
It was a big commitment for me to do autobill
pay JOm they're automatically going to take what if I
don't have it? That was my fear, Like what if
they come forward in my auto pay and.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
I don't have it? Yeah, it's so true.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
And I've been good now, like it just it's exposure therapy.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
I still get nervous sometimes and I have trouble, Like
sometimes I'll work myself to death and my wife will
will see it. And it's great having a wife now
that can understand that about me.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Be nice.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah, and She'll go, who's working hard right now? You
are twelve year old, are you?

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (29:59):
And there's a difference in the two because twelve year
old me is just trying to survive.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Yeah. It's like, dude, doggy dog like doggy dog world,
Like I get it.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yoh yeah, you're playing arenas Dude, that's crazy and it's crazy.
I say that in a way of like salidatory crazy.
Oh yeah, you're doing it. It's crazy. You're doing an
arena tour, dude, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
The kid the trailers doing that's so wild. This is
my biggest dream, like this, this is like everything.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
I put my all into this, like ever since I started,
and I played the first you know, three or four
or five shows and got that taste and then I
saw what can be done, and like I was just
like I want that bad, like I wanted it.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Nervous about tickets, like since it's a it's a growth, right, Yeah,
we were nervous about tickets selling.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Oh yeah, of course. I've been nervous about every single
tour though.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
I don't think that will ever go away because I
always want to like really deliver for my fans.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
And I also that thing where I'm like, am I
delivering enough? Am I doing enough? Am I?

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Like?

Speaker 2 (31:03):
You know, is the show big enough?

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Is there enough? Pyro?

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Is there enough?

Speaker 3 (31:06):
This?

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Is there enough?

Speaker 3 (31:07):
You know?

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Like can I do more?

Speaker 3 (31:10):
You know? Like, oh man, my team's about to kill
me this year. My budgets, bro, because you want to
make the show so good. I just want to make it.
I want them to go home going. That is the
sickest show I've ever seen, Oh my gosh. And so yeah, dude,
it's been like everything I've dreamed of. So I've been
like overboard this year, like oh yeah. And I was

(31:31):
so nervous about the tickets selling because I was just
like I don't know, you know, I don't know, but
you're trying sounding bigger so and you have a lot
of tickets you don't Yeah, you don't have anything to
compare it to because it's a new world for you.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Yeah, how to go. I think it went amazing.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
I think it was like seventy percent day of tickets. Oh,
we sold out a bunch of like good but it
seems like everything's like gonna be sold out. And even
even if I don't like sell it out, I think
that can be like this like mark that artists like feel, oh,
if I didn't sell it out, it's a failure. I

(32:06):
don't care, dude, if I sell it seventy eighty nine, Dude,
eighty percent sold out on my first rentotour. That's my
first time. I'll go try it again and write more
music and do more things. And you know, it's all
like such an evolution. I think that's that took me
a long time to figure out too, Like, hey, not
everything's gonna be so up and up and sold out,

(32:27):
like some.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Things are gonna grow, some things are gonna whatever.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
And I think it's actually made it more fun because
when it did almost sell out on the day of,
I was like, dude, like you just I just like,
holy crap, Like I'm like selling out Arenas Bro, Like
we're gonna do this thing like bud Stage. One of
my favorite places I remember playing with Morgan was Bud
Stage in Toronto. I don't think it's called bud Stage anymore,

(32:51):
but anyways, Uh, dude sold out on on pre sale
and then we added I think we had another night.
Maybe maybe not, I don't know, but yeah, dude, crazy.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Like that's so mature because I still struggle with if
it's not. If I'm doing a theater, I'm telling jokes,
it's not sold out, I'm like, I've lost it. People
don't care as much of it.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Yeah, I get it, dude, I get it.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
And I will go when tickets going sell and I'll
look at every seat because theaters have seats, and I'll
go two together that aren't sold. Yep, somebody didn't want
to get People don't want to come and see me anymore.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Did I get it?

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Your way ahead? You're advanced.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
I just had to get over that because it was
taken over my life. Like it was like, ah, I'm
not in the trailer anymore, and.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
I'm taking advice record right now.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
No, it's and honestly is I think like where I've
come down to. The one thing I always go to
is I'm putting energy into the art that I'm putting
out into the world, and what happens to that art
after I put out in the world is not in
my control. Whether they like it, don't like it, listen,
don't listen. I am putting out what I love and
I am proud of every single day. And this show

(34:00):
that I go do this year in the arenas, it's
gonna be a show that I'm very proud of. Whether
I make a dollar or two dollars, whatever it is,
I'm gonna be so proud of the show and go.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
I gave that my all, and if that wasn't.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Enough, then I gave it everything I got when I
when I go home, you know what I'm saying. And
that's what's made me be able to just be like
I'm proud. So we're good, it'll be good.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Have you rehearsed?

Speaker 2 (34:23):
It's not yet.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
We're still working pretty hard on it, trying to get everything,
but it's it's so close, like i'd say, like eighty percent.
So we're gonna go into rehearsals in like three weeks
or so.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
I think, can you talk me through what a rehearsal is,
because I think a lot of people would just go rehearse.
Don't you already know the songs?

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (34:41):
So it's like, it's kind of funny what it takes
to get the show to feel so awesome and big
and like professional, right, Like it takes this sound coming
out of the speakers when this thing hits, and then
these lights hitting on the same beat to make sure
everything feels big at the same.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
It takes. That takes like light by light by.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
I mean, these people are bilography hundreds of hours into
just before the show. Let's talk about like pre prep, right,
like prep for pre rehearsal. We're doing all the videos
that's going on on the screen. Where I redid my
whole staging, so I redid everything my my I redid
my cat walk up top, I added things to my stage.

(35:28):
I added more linked to my thrust. I made my
thrust figger. I did different lights because I didn't like
how those were hitting last year. Like I mean, I
detailed every single thing with this whole team I've got,
and all that pre pro like pre production will go
into rehearsals, and then when we get into rehearsals, we'll
have an idea of how it's going to go. But
then we'll build out like the big moments and make

(35:51):
sure everything hits right on beat.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
And when when this pyto is.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Going up, the boys, you know my boys, Chris Jarcos,
Brendan Orchard plays bass, plays guitar. They they'll jump up
off the stage at the same time the pyle hits,
and then when they come down, they'll both hit at
the same time. That's what makes it look sick, and
that takes a lot of work and a lot of time,
and that's what rehearsals for us to make sure. Well,
I'll just go through and more so choreography, making sure

(36:21):
like all moments to breathe, What am I doing? What
are the boys doing?

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Stop moments breath? That's like moments to catch your breath.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
It really is, because if not, you'll hurt your voice
and then you'll be out of breath. Then it'll sound awful,
and then it won't sound good.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
So yeah, like all the moves.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
And running around and stuff, it's just like trying to yeap,
figure out where to breathe.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Singing the songs, doing it. And then it's also just like.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
You know, I played baseball growing up, and my dad
would always be like, make sure you put the weight
on the bat on deck, cause if you go take
those swings with that weight, it's gonna feel real light
when you get to actually go, you know, swinging in
the box.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
Kind of the same thing with rehearsal is like we
just do it over and over and over, and then
I'll sit back and let the boys do it. After
I figured it all out, I'll sit back on the
couch in the middle of this warehouse where we do it,
and I'll watch the stage and be like, I don't
like that.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
That's not good.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
And then I'll just fine tune it to where when
we get to dress rehearsal the day of the first
arena tour in Florida, it'll be like.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Minty dialed, how do you know you're having a good show?

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Oh, you just feel it? I think I think you know,
you know, like you feel it. You're like, I'm kind
of on a roll here, like I'm feeling pretty good.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yeah. But I think the difference is for me, I
can tell because I'm hearing laughter. I'm not wearing ears.
When you're wearing ears, it's a whole different monster because
even if the crowd's micd up, there's a slight delay
with yeah, So it's different for somebody that's wearing ears.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
My opinion is I turn my ears up and I
play my best show. That's one thing I had to
get through my head too. Not every show is gonna
be awesome, And now everybody's gonna have that energy that
the middle of Ohio and a small town had, right,
you know that just stupid energy flames. Oh my gosh,
they aren't freaking out. Some people sit there and just
watch the show and listen, and some people aren't going

(38:10):
to be raging. So I'm just in my ears. I'm
gonna sing the best show that I'm proud, Like, i
just want to be proud of what I do, So
I'm like, focus on the show, not the crowd.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
A big piece of advice that I got man early early, was.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Early early.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
I've only been in a five years, right, but but
was focus on the people that are there, not the
empty chairs. Don't focus on the empty chairs, because what
are you focusing on that?

Speaker 2 (38:38):
For?

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Bro, you just came from a trailer and you're getting
paid to sing these songs that you wrote with your
buddies in a house in Nashville. Like, let's be grateful,
let's be awesome, and let's try to play the best
show as we can out there and rock as hard
as we can and if we're sweating and we and
every night we go kind of back through and we go, hey,
you know, this wasn't good. I'm gonna I'm gonna work

(38:59):
on that in in you know, uh sound check tomorrow.
I'm gonna so it's like always an evolutioning thing, but
not worrying about those empty chairs and focusing on the
people that are there to support you and your songs
and like what you're doing, you know, and they are
rage and they are having fun.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
So let's go.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
You're right because you talked about cars in a way
you can tell you love cars. You're talking about music
in a way the Dwarfs. How you're talking about cars instead.
I it's, ah, it's just so weird. It's so weird
how you got here?

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Weird, dude, unorthodox, very unorthodox.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
I think everybody feels it too, even my mom, Like
I've had to be like, this is weird, hauns. She's like,
this is so weird. Like you're you're like you're like
country rock. Yeah, not wrong, so weird. No, it's just weird.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
It's weird. It's it's weird how I got here. It's
kind of weird how everybody gets here.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
We said my bass player Christiarcos, when we're playing golf,
and you know how you'll hit that weird but good
shot where it's it's well, that was weird, but it worked.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
It didn't look like maybe the best one would look.
But it's there. Yeah, that's so true.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Yep, weird but good.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Here we are. Hang tight.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
The Bobby Cast will be right back. Welcome back to
the Bobby Cast.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
I want to do this. Give me the three questions
that people ask you in every single interview. I should
have done this at the beginning because I never wanted
to do that. When you sit down for an interview, Okay,
what's the one question you know they're gonna ask every time? Hm?

Speaker 3 (40:36):
Hm?

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Oh so how's the search for a wife?

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Okay? And then what do you I just want to
quick answer, what do you say to that?

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Not the greatest? I mean, still there?

Speaker 1 (40:56):
All right? Give me number two. Every interview you get asked.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Hmm.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
And probably now you're gonna get a lot about your
mom and that those videos.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
It's usually I would say maybe the second most thing
is like Marley and Pie. That you know Marley and
Pie because I post about them a bunch of my
golden retrievers. Marley and Pie are my two golden retrievers.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
I liked you look at the camera and talk yes,
and you do it in the fourth then you do
It's okay, I did it earlier too. Yeah, you do
a karate shop. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, so we
got the dogs and give me one more. Hmm.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
I think.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
The same thing, like, how weird is it that you're
like a country artist now and you're like selling like
lots of tickets and you're like doing the big thing,
and I'm like really freaking weird, and like how is it?

Speaker 2 (41:51):
And I always are.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
Saying, imagine, like yourself right now and close your eyes,
you know, close your eyes with me.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Bobby.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
You're in your bed and your eyes are closed, and
you posted this video last night. But you're just like
some random kid in some small town of like eight
hundred people in your mom's trailer, and you wake up
and your like phone, now, open your eyes, right, we're awake,
and your phone is like blowing up off and it's
like almost buzzing off the table, and you grab it
and your TikTok says eight hundred and something thousand notifications

(42:21):
and your song's like gone viral.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
You're part of your song that you wrote, super weird
but good.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
So then all of a sudden you're just like you
quit your job, day up, go figure out how to
record the song.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Fast forward.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
You keep doing videos, you keep doing that you're like,
you ask your mom for fifty hundred bucks, You go
to the studio, you record the song, you put the
song out, and it streams like millions, like first five days,
ten days, whatever, and then all of a sudden, you're
in Nashville and you're living and you just signed a
record deal. Then all of a sudden, Morgan Wallin calls
you and he's like, hey, did you want to go
on a stadium tour for two years?

Speaker 2 (42:53):
And I'm like yeah, and then I go do that,
and then I go do.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
My own tours that sell out and I put out
songs and then like my first album, you know, religiously,
the album breaks records. Imagine all that happening that's happened
to me, to you, And that's exactly how it feels.
And it is crazy, bro, Like I'd wake up every
day and I'm like, dude, like, pinch me, this is crazy,
like really really cool.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
One of my favorite parts of your story, because I
totally related it was you coming down here and really
not knowing the difference as an agent and a manager,
and because who knows that stuff until you're like taught it.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
Yeah, I thought I couldn't have. I remember telling you this.
I thought you couldn't have a manager and a label
at the same time.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
But who knows the difference, Like again, unless somebody takes
you by the hand and says, here's what a record
label does, here's why you need a manager. Here's the
difference in a manager and an agent. Who knows what
those people do. I would just hear people do award
show speeches and roll my eyes. They'd be like, I
want to think of my agent. I'm a lawyer, and
I'm just like, why are you thinking these Are they
not the same person? What do they even do? That says,

(43:57):
But then once you kind of get in it, you're like, oh,
all these people are like vital oh dude, and they're
DoD they do different jobs.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
Oh yeah, and the and the manager, lawyer. They all
sound like big words, Like wow, big word.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
That is you a little ward speech? You think you're
so good you have a lawyer, you have an agent.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
No, it's so true, though, Like nobody knows until you're
like in it and you're like, oh, dang, like I
have to have all these people or my business I
won't run Like.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
It's always crazy to learn about having to pay percentages
because yeah, you get a manager. I get a manager
and they're like, yep, we want to represent you. We're
going to be sure to get you these deals. We're
going to every day, day to day. We're working with
you Macro micro that'll be fifteen percent of everything.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
Yeah what Yeah, And at the time you're kind of
just like I didn't even know. I was like, Okay,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
I was like, am I going to make it?

Speaker 3 (44:50):
I was given twenty percent at the start of my
career yep, But hey, I honestly, I'm so blessed, dude.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
I've had like my team in my corner.

Speaker 5 (44:58):
Now.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
We had gone through some bumps at the beginning with
I had had two managers. Really like nobody knows this
about me, but I had two managers at when I
first started, and then I had like kind of parted
ways with one of them. And my team now kind
of really helped me with that and got me through
it and taught me, like showed me and like okay,
this is how and they they kind of like and

(45:19):
now they're my team now, dude, love them to death,
Like wouldn't be able to run without them, but like
they were the ones that kind of took my hand.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
We're like, yeah, we didn't love that deal and that thing,
but we didn't want to.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
You know, you don't know us and trust us yet,
so we don't want to try to tell you what
to do because we want to let you do it.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
And I was like okay.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
So it's like the learning lessons were there, but I
got very blessed with a small learning lesson.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
It wasn't like this.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
It didn't destroy it, you know because some people man
that can like, yeah, it's very important. And anybody that
asked me, like, what's one piece of advice you know
when you when you're being an artist or whatever?

Speaker 1 (45:52):
That could have been an answer to what do people
ask you?

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Nobody asked me that very often, but when I when.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
They do, Okay, what's one piece of advice you'd give
to people come into town?

Speaker 3 (46:01):
I would say, like knowing what's going on and like
understanding the business of what what's happening like.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
But how would they learn that? Because you get swept
It's all right, so here you got swept here?

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Yeah, of course, yeah, how do you learn that? Well?

Speaker 3 (46:16):
You choose the right people to teach you, of course,
which is hard. But you got to go by your gut.
You got it, you know, Like I have faith. I
have my faith that I lean on, so I have
prayer and I have you know, that's what I have
to lean on. So I was like, I think this
is the right thing. But also I read this book
and it's called Everything you Need to Know About the

(46:37):
Music Industry.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
See that's some real practical advice right there.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Yes, so like I have certain things that I choose
to have, but something that anybody can go get ay
Amazon and Everything you Need to Know about the Music
Industry unbelievable teaches you just the basics of like okay,
understanding what everything is and just like the basic gunners.
But the more important thing is knowing who you're getting

(47:06):
into like a partnership with and understanding that like, hey,
this is years of your career and they are going
to have control of this and they are going to
have like percentage of this, and like you got to
make sure that they're going to want to work as
hard as you and believe in you as much as
you believe in you.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
And there's all these things.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
But I think a lot of people sometimes come to
town on this like fairy tale dream that everybody's just
gonna be nice. And then like me, I got introduced
kind of to the real world of how some cats
can be and the like the world, and like it
was kind of just like small learning lesson. But yeah,
I would say, just be careful who you give percentage
of your art to and what you're doing, because that's

(47:45):
like you sign that contract. That's a contract, and that's
a real thing.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
So we have people to bring by music that means
a lot to them. So that record for any we
hold that up and I'm so excited and walk us
through why you pick this and what it is. I'm
so excited show what they can and you've been making
love to.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
There it is.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
Hello, this album is called pawn Shop, and you want
me to explain why it's important to me? Because so
they told me. They told me, I'm I'm giving you
an album. That's what they said, Bobby. They were an album.
And I say this, you can say whatever you want.
Am I allowed, like, is there secrets that I should
be keeping?

Speaker 1 (48:23):
Okay, okay, but I will charge you a percentage.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
So they were like, hey, were you're supposed to get
your one of your favorite records vinyls and they're going
to give it to Bobby for the podcast, and dude,
this is like and it's crazy. I just want to say, Okay,
so what do you want me to do? Tell them
why Brothers Osborne Pawnshop? Why does that record mean a
lot to you? This record means a bunch to me

(48:50):
because I remember hearing it for the first time because
it was twenty sixteen, twenty sixteen, I got my license
that year. Pawnshop was just cranked and the first time
I kind of fell in love with this girl from
a town over. Our song was twenty one summer off
this record, and every time I hear that song, it

(49:11):
just takes me right back, man, and I'm just like
from chills right now, just like thinking about like how
much this like impacted my life, and like just the song.
Every song just goes through and man, they put the
outros on there and they put the it's just.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Oh dude, you know those guys.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
Yeah, oh man, I've got to see them live so
many times. I just got chills thinking about watching them
just shred live. I've gotten to see them live, stood backstage,
partied with him. Oh yeah, they're the boys, dude. Oh yeah,
that's so that's exactly what you're supposed to do.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
Oh yeah, yeah he laid down.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
So yeah, favorite record, great record, and it's funny. So
another thing which is crazy. The other day, three weeks ago, okay,
three weeks ago, I'm in my car and I don't
listen to music a lot. I usually kind to take
car rides to just focus and kind of think and
let my brain just like wonder, this's like figure stuff out.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
I don't know, just think.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
And I just got on my phone and just click
Pawnshop and just let the whole record go. I don't
listen to records all the way through very often. I
don't listen to music option, but for some reason I
just threw that on. And then the other day I
see that the tenth Anniversary is coming out. How weird
that just like all of a sudden, I'm just like

(50:28):
randomly listening to music and I don't listen to and
it's this record and they're about to put the tenth
Anniversary and it's.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
Like a deluxe version they're putting out of that record.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
Well, allegedly, I looked at it on Spotify and it's
got the demo of Pawnshop, which is going to be
pretty cool, so I could. I always love when artists
do that, like put out demos and how it worked
and how it because I don't think a lot of
people know that, like how a song gets written.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
I think that would be a cool thing for you
to teach everybody. So walk us through that. So you go,
you have a right today you write? What's it? So
let's just start there. You write a song. Let's let's
say the song is called I Love People. That's gonna
be the name of the song. You write the song,
then what happens.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
Well I would have came in and sat down just
like this, and I'd grab the guitar and I'd been like, hmm,
I had this the other day, this guitar riff, and
then we would have oh I love that well, and
then I'd have been like what about this melody?

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Oh I love that?

Speaker 3 (51:20):
And then we would have wrote the words and then
ended up just writing a song and keep bouncing off
each other.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
And then after a song gets is it written? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Written? Yeah, for the song's written.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
After a song's written, I would say like, if you're
loving it and you're like, yo, I got it, cause
you'll feel it. You'll be like, dude, I gotta get
this cart I got to show people this, and usually
it's not good enough to show people yet because you
hear it in your head, you know how Like you know,
do you ever like.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Show people something and you'd be like, well, I'm gonna
change this.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
It's not all the way done yet.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
If it's not just got picture it if we did it,
Like just imagine if there was like this one bell
like like hitting right here and like so so I'm
like so you'll feel that right and you'll be like, Okay,
I gotta get this done. So so go to the
studio cut it, and honestly, for me, it's like every
day after that is just like musicians getting the musicians

(52:08):
into the studio cutting it the way.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
A lot of people don't know how hard it is
to cut a guitar.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
You don't.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
When you write a song.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
You'll write it, but then when you go to produce
it and make it real, sometimes that guitar rift doesn't
stay and you'll have to like keep trying new things,
so you'll just like on that chord, you'll try to
find some pick thing or like it takes sometimes hours
or days or months, like on some of my songs
it's taken. Like we would be like, man, something's not

(52:39):
right about this song, and then it would end up
being this one acoustic little thing that just threw it
off or made it too slow or too whatever. But
like it takes time to find like the guitar, the
drum groove. Does it have drums?

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Is it not drums?

Speaker 3 (52:54):
You know? So like you kind of go through that
whole process of just making the song. So you've written
it and now you're in the studio and then you're
just like I just spend every day after that just
like with the musicians, and we'll call the guitar back
in if it's not you know whatever, and then cutting
the vocal. I think I take like like one hundred
and usually like one hundred takes of this one hundred
and twenty takes of the song over and over and

(53:16):
over and verses and verses and verses, and then choruses
and choruses and choruses and over and over and try
to get really comfortable. And then usually about one hundred
and twenty one, I'll really just hone one in that's
like all right, like perfect, And then once you've got
everything where you like it, it's done, and you can
start the marketing management that old thing. You know.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Do you ever feel like you get so inside of
a song though you can't tell if it's good anymore
because you're so inside of it.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
Well, it's like I feel like I've been there sometimes,
but then it ended up I was actually not wrong.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
I was like, no, there was something wrong with it,
and that's why my gut kept telling me. So you
just trust your guy.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
I do.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
And I'm like, if it's not perfect, I'm like, I
don't want to put it out. I don't. I don't
feel like I'm proud of this yet.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
It's just there's something off, like, and it's really hard
to because people will be around you and they'll be like, oh,
like this is it, dude, No, it's good, it's good,
and it's like they're not making this.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Do not listen to them. I'm making this.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
It's not good enough yet your names on it.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
There's gonna be a reason, and then they're gonna be.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
And every single time you go back and show them
after you fixed whatever you've wanted to fix, they go, oh,
you're right, that does make it hot matter, and I'm
like thanks, yeah, so yes, dude, follow your gut. Man,
Just if you don't like it, then you don't like it. Right,
it's your art, you know, you got to put it
out how you like it.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Follow your gut. You very much followed your gut to
get here, and you made a lot of difficult decisions,
risky decisions to get here, meaning you quit your job,
you moved, you got money from your mom, you just
packed up. Like what are you people watching there? So
listen to it right now and they're God, I don't
know if I should, Like what is your advice there
to people chasing it?

Speaker 2 (55:00):
I mean, really, it's what gets you so riled up?

Speaker 3 (55:03):
Like you know, kind of like you were saying earlier,
like how you know how amped I am about cars
and music?

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Like are you amped like that about what you're doing?

Speaker 1 (55:12):
And are you I was?

Speaker 3 (55:14):
I was when I when I that video went viral
and I saw the opportunity. My dad like growing up,
always was like if you got opportunity, that's not going
to come around very often, and when you get it,
you better take a hold of that and you better
run with it as fast as you can, like and
as hard as you can, I mean, just like take it.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
You know, and.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
So when I had that opportunity, I was just like
when I had discovered songwriting for me, it just felt
like man like freeing and I could like and when
I wrote that song that was the first song I
ever tried to like really write.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
It was called Never Coming Home.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
And when I first tried to write that song, just
writing a song and nothing is wrong, there's no wrong
way to do anything, and that's what I just loved.
I'm like, there's nobody's telling me there's no wrong way
to do this. I'm just right in a song that
like resonates with me. And then I remember listening to
it on the way home that night after I wrote
it and just listening to like my like my voice too,

(56:09):
the speakers, and it made me so just amped and
just like this is making me electric and I haven't
felt this ever in my life, just so amped about
something and hyped up and caring about something so much.
I would say, like that feeling, man, when you have
that like, don't let that go and don't be scared
and let that scared, Like well, what if it doesn't work?

Speaker 1 (56:31):
But what if it does?

Speaker 3 (56:33):
And you got this passion and fire in your stomach
and you can feel it and you're like, man, I
love this, Like don't let that go. Like That's what
I did when I felt that. That's what my dad
always like taught like, if you love what you do,
you'll never work a day in your life. And I
was so scared of working for the rest of my
life on something that I didn't love and something that

(56:53):
I hated. That's where I was at in my life
at the time, was like I hate what I'm doing
and I don't want to spend the rest of my
life like this. And man, when I, like I said,
when I got into music, writing is just like this
thing that just took a hold of me.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
And I was just like, man, I love this, bro.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
And the feeling of writing a hit when you write it,
and the feeling of like, you know, playing that awesome
show or you know, whatever it may be when you're
doing it, don't.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
Lose that and just chase it.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
Yeah, chase that dream that you feel, because yeah, you
never know when that's gonna go away. And that's ah, man,
that's what like I wish everybody could feel like we feel,
you know, that fire when you wake up. I love
waking up. I love waking up. I love getting out
of my bed. I'm like, thank god, I'm alive. I'm
gonna go write my songs. Oh dude, yeah, I'm like,

(57:39):
good morning, girls, I got my golden golden retriever girls.
I'm like, love you girls. Let's go work, let's go grind.
It's time to write songs. It's time to keep going.
Like I just love it, man, and like so to
anybody out there that feels that fire and like whatever, dude,
chase that. Let's go like one life. And we all
got the same twenty four hours the day.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
So let's go.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
We're about to wrap this up. But Stephen Wilson was
talking to Stephen Wilson and he was talking about he,
you know, was working as a scientist and he had
done music obviously, and that he had the urge to
do music, but he hadn't. You're talking about Stephen Wilson Jr.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
It's crazy you're saying this. I was just saying this
the other day, and how wild.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
He started to feel like if he didn't get called
to go do music, that's when he was a failure.
And he wanted to chase it while he's before it
went away on him because he felt like if he
ever went to work and didn't have the dream anymore,
that he failed. And so it was really hard. He
had to leave his job and start over and wait
at tables for years, and but he was like, I
was scared that I wouldn't have that calling at me anymore,

(58:48):
because I knew when it wasn't calling me anymore that
dream was dead.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
That guy. That guy makes music. That guy makes music
I like, personally love.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
And honestly, he made music that makes you question if
you're a real artist or not, because when I listened
to it, like I came to town twenty twenty one
and was listening to nineteen ninety four You're to Be Young,
nineteen ninety four Stephen Wilson Junior, just dude, And I
got to tell him this backstage of the CMA Awards,

(59:19):
and I was just like, dude, like this really resonated
and you could tell he was like so appreciative of me,
saying like wow, this real like just got me through,
Like I feel this, dude, like and yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
Dude was a scientist.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Yeah what like, dude were scientists?

Speaker 3 (59:40):
Oh and he's legend, Like you talked to him you're
just like, holy crap, dude, like your songs are just
I told him.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
I didn't even know how to tell him how much
because this town, everybody says they love everything, of course, yeah, right, right, right,
But there are only a couple of things that I
personally consume and love. There's a a lot of things
that I like and respect and understand it's awesome, of course,
but there's only a couple or a few things that
I consume that really touches me in a place where

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everybody's trying to be touched well, because we're humans, yeah,
and we're in the middle of it all, you know.
And I was like it may have been kind of
weird to him, and I was like, dude, I love
what you do, like, I actually like your stuff. Yeah,
it was just a weird compliment. It is that I
actually like your stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
I've said that before too, because you're like, hey, I
don't like a lot. Yeah, And I don't know if
that means anything to you, but no, that's me. It's
something for me, like, and I feel like that dude
really takes that to the soul. Because I was having
trouble too, because I was like, dude, like I didn't
know how to compliment, like legend bro, like you're in

(01:00:44):
like I don't know. I keep saying like like like
because I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
What to say.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
That's how it was with him, that that conversation comes
up in about a week or so on this it'll
be on and it was it was really like that
guy has one been through it, yeah, crazy and is
able to express it through music that makes you not
only understand what he went through, but makes you understand
what you're going through now. It's like you're you know,

(01:01:08):
we hear music and a sign our own stories to it,
and he's able to one give you his story and
have you feel your story inside of that. And it's
a rare. It's a rare.

Speaker 5 (01:01:15):
Yeah, let's take a quick pause for a message from
our sponsor, and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Different night, same Rodeo tour kicks off in February. It's
gonna roll all the way through June. Who's out with you?

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Hudson Westbrook and that dude.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
I love Hudson Westbrook. Always do his music because I
like that acoustic guitar emotion, like that's another person. And
also he's way younger than I am. So I didn't
want to be like I love you because I don't
want to, but like his stuff real.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Yeah no.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
When I first heard it on TikTok, I was like, yep,
there it is. Yeah, heard it and then I've been
a fan from that day on. And then I didn't
thank you. It was gonna say yes to go on
toward me and uh he heading back, He's like, dude,
i'd love to and I'm like really and he's like yeah,
and I'm like, all right, sick, let's go, dude, Yeah,
let's go. I'm so excited, Like my kid, I'm twenty five,

(01:02:12):
he's the same age as.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Me, but you know, give him.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Yeah, Morgan got to call you more. How cool is
it now you get to call people and do that
for them. It's crazy, dude. I'm so happy for you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
Dude, I'm happy for you. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
Like I feel the same towards you as well, Like
I'm like, dude, this is like and I feel really
like like honored to be a friend because remember when
we first got.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
I agree, and we don't. This town keeps people from
talking a lot because we're not in talent. It's it's
a run, run, run, go away world, but I reach out.
I don't reach out to many folks, but I try
to hitch up every couple of months. If we don't
talk and just be like thinking about you. Yeah, I
know you don't need me, but if you ever do,
I'm right here.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
No, dude, I I it's nice to have friends that
like don't.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
Don't need anything from him.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Yeah, yeah I don't, but if I do, I will
call you. And if you do, like Chad from Nickelback,
I I'll call him, really I will.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
He said the same thing. Hey, I know you don't
need me, but if you need anything, let me know.
I'm like, I will because.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
I feel like I would call you. I feel like
I would call you if I needed something to because
I wanted. Yeah, because I would feel like you wouldn't
be thinking I was trying to get something from like
it wouldn't be for any mode of other than just
like yeah, like a relationship friend. Yeah yeah, yeah, of course.
Well I'm happy for you. And you brought the mom
stuff up, so that was all funny. But we brought
the mom stuff up and my mom said she does

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love you, And Mom, thank you, you raised a good one.
There you go. Thank you Yeah, good to see you, man,
good to see you. They're great and dude, the karate chopping,
the cameras, I say, but do. They're great. Biley's everman, everybody,
I Love you by. This has been a Bobby cast production.