Comedian & actress Heather McMahan joins Bobby to talk about building a comedy career by trusting her instincts, finding material in real life, and why her husband has become one of her best sources of inspiration. She shares the story of sending a DVD to Jeff Foxworthy, what it was like meeting her hero Joan Rivers, and how those early comedy moments helped shape the performer she is now. Heather also opens up about the chaos of doing IVF wrong twice, talking about fertility on stage, life on tour, comedy cruises, and learning when to finally take a break.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
I had a nurse Dammy. She said that in her
clinic they have a problem with older men. They will
come in and instead of giving their proper sample in
a cup, they will spit in the cup instead.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
All right, Today's guest is Heather McMahon, comedian actress, the
host of the podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
She blew up on Instagram after moving back home and Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
We talked about this in just a second. You're gonna
hear the whole story.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
A very tough time in her life and that turned
into a lot of what she is now.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
And she is massive.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
When I told my friends she was coming up to
do this podcast, all of them wanted to come and
sit in. And you know what they all did, turn
the camera. Okay, we can't turn the camera, but they're
all here. Heather McMahon's here. Go see her tour. It's
the Bamboozle Tour right now, and she has a cruise
coming which we talk about tickets Heather ontour dot com.
She is the reason that everybody's in the studio right now.
(01:03):
They're very funny, Heather. Ic man, Heather, They're great to
meet you.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Hey, lovely to meet you.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
My wife sent me with information yeah, I've listened to
your podcast a lot through my wife.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, which is probably how a lot of dudes hear you, right.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah, They're laying in bed at night and they're like
trying to get some love and attention from their wives,
and they just hear my voice.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Over and over again.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
So they you either have like a love hate relationship
with me, and then they'll like come to a show
and they'll act like they don't want to come, and
then they're there and they have a blast, and then
they're the ones hanging out afterwards at the meet and
greet being like, hey, can I just get some solo
photos and you're like, yeah, yeah, Rick, I knew you
liked me. Yeah, but I love that. That is the
gentle entrance for a lot of men into my comedy
is you know, through their spouses, and that's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Well, my wife says, tell her that my wife and
I went to Italy for the first time a few
years ago. We've been a couple of times since, and
she didn't say it was you at first. She says, Hey,
we got a recommendation to go to this restaurant, okay,
and I was like great, So it's some place called
Paron or.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Yeah, yeah, that's what it is, treachery. Perione shout out.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
We got in there and.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I was like, who told you to come to this?
And she said, Heather and I said and then she
said it was you and I said, oh, you heard
it on the podcast. So now we've been twice though,
and she said it's so good though, right, yeah, it's great.
And I'd never been to Italy except I've gone now
twice with her.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
That's all.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
It's a really cool place.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
It's a great place, and you know it's funny. I
am not a creature of habit in any aspect of
my life except when I travel. I mean I go
to new places all the time. But when I have
my little I love, especially with Italy, it feels like
my second home. So when I go to Florence there,
which I spent a lot of time there, I have
my restaurants, I've got my I've got my espresso guy,
I've got my cheese guy. And Perione, I am so
(02:39):
obsessed with the entire weight staff there. They came to
my after party at my wedding because I got married
a little outside of Florence and Tuscany, and the guy
showed up and we're like, you know, we were just
like ripping shots.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
And having a good time. So they are. They hold
a very special place in my heart.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
How long have you been married.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I've been married. We had a COVID court wedding in
twenty twenty, but i've you know, we had the big
Italy wedding a couple of years ago, so five total.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
So we got married around the same time.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
We got married during COVID and we had that brief
window where you could not wear masks, so yeah, super
mask then because we were massed up, and then it
was you could stop wearing masks.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
We timed it right.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
We had a wedding on our property and then it
was COVID again everybody had to wear masks again. So
we've been together about I mean, when did you guys,
how long did you have date before you married?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
I mean we have been together almost fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Oh, you've been together a long time, A long time. Yeah.
We met in New York in our early twenties and
then I moved to LA and we would have gotten
married our third date, but he wanted to finish his
grad program and I was moving to LA and that's
why I know him with the right person, because my
husband at no point, even when I was like I'm
going to leave New York and go to LA and
like follow the dream, he was like, I got to
let you do this because I never he said, I
(03:46):
know we're in this for the long run, and I
don't ever want you to resent me for holding you back.
And that's when you know you have a good man.
So yeah, we're together a long time.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I was asking about your husband because another one of
my friends who's on my show, she had said this morning,
she said, you were going through your master's outfit.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, And she didn't know if there was a brand
called Dong by God.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah no, So she literally.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I was like, I don't think that's it. I think
that was a joke.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, that's a joke. So Jeff just has been doing
this thing. My husband is secretly one of the funniest
people in my life. He is just ridiculous and he's
so dry. But yeah, when he does his outfit outfit
of the day, he just started saying dong by God.
I don't know why, and people run with it. I
don't know where it came from, and I'm so mortified.
By it, but I say keep it going.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
You know, does he do anything in entertainment.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
No, absolutely not. I think my husband missed his real
calling to be like a sports analyst or to be
a football coach.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
And I know that every straight.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Male and their like mid thirties thinks that they were
at one point could have been a coach. But he
really has an analytic brain in a way that's just wild.
And I tell him, I'm like, you need to do something.
You need to go be the new like offensive lineman
coach for ole miss or something. And that's no hate,
no shade, whoever's doing the job right now. But you know,
I'm just like he is, so that's his He's really
(05:00):
really smart at that. But no, I would never date
anybody in entertainment.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
My wife is so funny and she just despises thinking
of her doing entertainment. We feel like it's such she
has such a skill. She's so funny, so sharp, so dry,
so cutting if she wants to be yeah, and has
no interest in using it at all.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
And I'm like, you're not using it, she goes, I
am with us.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Yeah. Well, and also I get all my best material
from my husband because he's just such an idiot in
the best way, like, in the most loving way. I
just live life. And that's a thing in comedy. You know,
you can go and just pound the pavement all the
time and work your craft, which we all do, but
if you don't actually just go out and live life,
like I take the summers off. And that's why I
go to Italy. I'm like, I know in two weeks abroad,
(05:40):
I will get more material from my husband acting like
an absolute insane person while we're abroad.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Then I will just you know, hitting clubs every night.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Like you got to go and live life to have
a shared experience.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
So then what was you, guys? A story?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
If you guys, you didn't split, but you split off
for a bit, right if?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I mean we were we were wheeling and dealing, you know,
we say together and he was in New York finishing,
you know, starting his business, and I was out in
LA And then I moved back to Atlanta very abruptly
after my dad passed, and he's like, well, at least
you're back on the East coast. I mean, we had
two pennies to rub together. We would fly back and
forth to see each other. I mean it was unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
We were you know, you stay together the whole time.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's my boo. Yeah wow, uh
huh so. And then I moved back to Atlanta, and
right before my dad died very abruptly, but my husband
flew down to MD Anderson where my dad was uh
getting treatment, and you know, immediately asked for my dad's
hand in marriage for me, and uh, of course my
dad gave him my blessing.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Uh, gave him his blessing, and then the rest is history.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
How important was that too? Did he get down and
do that with your dad before he passed?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
You know, my my late father and my husband had
such a beautiful relationship. I'm sure he had asked him
a million times before, but it was I was so
touched by it, you know. And then when my dad passed,
I'll never forget. We're in Houston and I couldn't find
my husband. I like woke up and I was just like,
you know, trying to process everything, and I look for
my husband and I just see him in a park
(07:06):
outside of our hotel and he's smoking a cigar, sitting
on a bench and tears are rolling down his face.
And I was like I have the best man. Like
it was one of those where I knew he needed
that moment to grieve my dad. And I feel so
blessed that I had two wonderful men in my life.
And I don't know, it's just I feel so richly
blessed that my dad really loved him.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
How does he do with your profession?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
He loves it, I mean, Jeff, that's the bit best thing. Like, yes,
I you know, do a lot of jokes at my
husband's expense on stage, but we are each other's biggest cheerleaders.
My husband loves it, you know, and also, like I
make the joke, he gets to play a lot of golf,
you know, because there's perks to the job.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Everywhere we go.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Wherever I'm on tour, there's about sixteen different husbands that
will DM me and be like can I take Jeff
to play golf today?
Speaker 4 (07:51):
I'm like, yes, get him out of my hair please.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
So he's been traveling the world getting to play every
exclusive golf course on the planet, which is very cool.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
But he loves it.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I mean, he's my bigges cheerleader and he you know,
it's funny because my last special breadwinner was all about
you know, me stepping into like my power, making more money,
like our crazy wedding. And every time I would get
asked a question from reporters I was doing press for it,
you know, what does your husband think about you making
fun of him on stage? And I'm like, no one
asked male comedians what their wives think, right, Like, you
(08:21):
just know that's a part of the gig. And it
was so interesting how all of a sudden it was
like we have to feel bad for Jeff because I'm
making jokes like fuck that, you know, like I'm sorry.
He's doing fine, and he loves it. And I can
always see him, like when he's on the side stage
and I can see him out of the corner of
my eye and he's just like he's loving it. So
he's got a great since of humor. You have to
(08:41):
have a great sense of humor to be married to
a comic.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yeah, or does he watch every show?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Not every show? No, And he doesn't come to all
the shows with me.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Okay, I didn't know that was the case. So he doesn't.
He doesn't travel with you everywhere.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
No, he comes to the fun cities. But you know, like, no,
ain't no shade to the smaller markets. But there are
days where Jeff's like, I'm good, you know, and at
the end of thea I'm still married. So I will
get off stage and then he's like, so what are
we doing for dinner?
Speaker 4 (09:05):
I'm like, you figured it out. I just worked for
ninety minutes.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Like you, you make an order, Jeff, Like, there's still
the same marital roles even when you walk.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Off stage, so you won't make it any money and
you started to have success, did you feel like you
had become less relatable once you started to make money.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
No, I didn't think I became less relatable because at
the end of the day, I have people around me
who will not let me get away with shit. Okay,
I still live with my mother like my husband, and I,
even eight years into my career, just bought like our
first home that we're going to live solo in. Like finally,
I said, I need to be able to come off
the road and not have my mom yell at me
about my laundry basket like it's time. But I don't know.
(09:44):
I mean maybe some other people will say differently, but
I really I keep a tight knit group around me
of people that I've known for since I was a child,
So I feel blessed that we have a good group
around us.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I've listened to the episodes with your mom. Yeah, those
are so good.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, she's I mean, I I get my late father
was so so funny, but my mom is just unreal.
She's unhinged, and I feel again the material rights itself,
like when you were around Robin McMahon. She's insane. It's
just amazing.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Does she ever feel the love gratulation towards her? I mean,
is she ever out and people come up to her?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
She is worshiped, She is a goddess. She is an icon.
And the best thing is if you run into my
mom at our local Trader Joe's, she will give you
my personal phone number. And I've had this same phone
number since I was like fifteen, and first got a phone,
and then I got a burner phone. My manager was like,
too many people have your number. You need a different phone.
So then I got the new burner phone and then
no one calls that number, and it made me so sad.
(10:40):
So I just will answer random phone calls and they're like,
I met your mom at Trader Joe's.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
She gave me your number.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I'm going through a hard time and I'm like, all right, Carol,
tell me what's going on. I just love it.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
What did they think you wanted to be when you
were a kid?
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I said, I think we have somewhere on home video
like what I was four. I'm like, well, I'm going
to be a funny girl. It's just what I called it.
I either wanted to do that or be a lifeguard
because I thought that that was a full time gig.
And I just thought, you know, you'd sit in a
lifeguard stand in a c bathing suit and he chicken
tenders all summer, and I thought that would be awesome.
But uh, and then I took my essats and we
saw those results, and I was like, I'm gonna have
(11:13):
to go into comedy because I'm definitely not going to
be a doctor. But no, I always wanted to do comedy.
And I was a theater kid growing up, did musical theater,
one act plays like competition plays, and then I got
a BFA for acting an ole miss. So this was
always kind of the trajectory. Now, whether or not it
was going to happen was the scary thing. And my dad,
who was very successful in his business would always say like, well,
(11:35):
what if it doesn't happen.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
I'm like, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I don't know how to explain to people that there
was never there was a little voice in the back
of my head that said, just keep going. Be fearless
about it, because I was like, what do I have
to lose.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Was there ever a time you did almost quit?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yeah, like every like yesterday, you know, when I'm exhausted
and running around and like what's happening? Uh, for sure,
But I just kind of kept going. I always had
this feeling, this gut instinct that this is what I
wanted to do, and it didn't come from a vain place.
It's like I genuinely love to get up every day
and giggle, and I knew that other people would relate
(12:10):
to that as well, So I mean, yeah, of course,
like it's great to see your name in lights and
do all this, and there's such a high about getting
on stage and having people admire you.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
For your work.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
But I truly was like, I just want to get
up there and giggle, and the fact that I can
make money at this is insanc.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Did you move to La already having done some comedy
like in college.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, so I actually did stand up. The first time
I ever did stand up, I was sixteen and I roasted.
I was at the junior senior prom and I roasted
the senior class. So I had like a thirty minute
set from that. I sent that old DVD to Jeff
Foxworthy because he lived a couple neighborhoods down for me
in Atlanta, and I dropped it off at his house
and I see Jeff a lot, and Jeff said that
(12:52):
he couldn't believe that I had the balls to do it.
And he was like, you know, you sat in my
living room and I gave you advice, and you know,
you never know what's going to happen. He's like, in
damn it if you didn't do it. So, after I
graduated high school, they were shooting Blue Collar Comedy Tour.
They were shooting their sketch comedy show at the Alliance
Theater in Atlanta. He gave me a writing assistant job
that summer, and I learned so much. I went to
(13:13):
ole Miss. I was doing comedy. I was in like
an improv troupe. I left ole Miss moved directly to
New York because I always wanted to do SNL, and
I obviously like had a background and stand up, but
I also love characters and sketch. So I started training
at UCB, which is upright Citizen's Brigade, which is kind
of like the filter system into SNL. And I had
an agent at New York that said, you're super commercial,
(13:34):
You've got a great look. You need to go to LA,
like you'll SNL will happen, but you've got to go
to LA. So I moved to LA, and I always
joke like, you have to leave. As soon as you
leave LA, that's when it calls you back. As soon
as I picked up my life and I had good
success in LA, but I was really grinding and like
figuring out who I was as an artist. And then
once I left LA, now they always call you. And
(13:55):
that's why I don't live in La. I live in Atlanta.
As soon as you move out of LA, that's when
they need you. It's like the old saying as an actor,
you never have an audition and then you finally take
a vacation and now they need like sixty five self
tapes and a producer's call back, and you're like, I'm
in Barbados for the first time in three years. Fuck off.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
You know, I spending a little bit of time there
just randomly because I was in Texas forever. Then I
moved here.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah, and then I would never live there, but I
would go there for a month at a time, or
like on Idol, we'd go out there for a couple
weeks at a time, or whatever, whatever the case was.
It just felt so insincere all the time because I
didn't have a core group though, Like I didn't have
a core group of friends out there, so I was
only out there working and it was only working people.
That just felt so instance like all the time. It
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felt like everybody was fake, and that.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Is very much so the case. But I feel like
I was there at a great time. I'm in my like,
you know, early mid twenties, I was hustling, grinding, working
every job you can imagine, and so.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
I real jobs, real job got it.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Oh yeah, Like I worked the front desk at this
boogie gym in West Hollywood called Soul Psychic.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Then you had real people around.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
You around me. Yeah, But I was always smart because
I always put myself and even though I was making
twelve dollars and twenty five cents an hour at Soul Cycle.
I knew that every important producer, other comedians, all these
people would come in. Whitney Cummings would come in and
take class, and I would like get her off the
wait list, like Anna GASTI are all my favorite comedians.
And I would drop a business card into Whitney Cummings
(15:22):
bag every weekend. She never saw them. We're friends. Now
I've done her podcast. I was like, Whitney, you probably
have in the bottom of some old Soul Cycle bags
like fifty of my business cards begging you for a job.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I just was smart in how I positioned myself. And
the wild thing was in New York, I worked like
these incredible restaurant jobs make great money, and then I
would do comedy on my night's off. And then I
moved to LA and because it wasn't a porn star,
I could not get a job at a bar. They
were like, unless you were a model, there's no way
you could get a job. So then I was like,
all right, I really got to hustle and really figure
this out.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Then what was the point when you're in LA where
you're like I got to get out of here, Like
what was going on.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Well, the only thing is, honestly, my dad passed ruptly
and suddenly, so I didn't want to leave Ballet my mom.
My dad died very quickly, in like seven days, and
so it was kind of like this whole shock, and
I had such a great relationship with my dad and
my family, so I thought I was just going to
move back to Atlanta, very temporarily, maybe for a couple months,
helped my family figure out the new normal. It's like,
grieve and put the pieces back together. And then I
(16:19):
got back and I felt kind of trapped, and you know,
and then I was like, this is this grieving process
is going to take a lot longer than I expected.
But it was a beautiful blessing in the sense that
I don't want to say, like, oh, you know, a
full circle, look at this. I've had this success because
I went through this tragic thing. I don't want to
say that, but I do think I had a richer
perspective on life and I was grieving. I mean, it's
(16:43):
kind of unhinge. I would take like a x Anex
and drink glass of white WI then like, let me
talk on Instagram stories, and that's what I did. I
use Instagram stories when they first came out as my
fifteen second moment to like pop out one liners and
jokes and it took off. So that's where I really
like honed, right, and then I just lived my life
and honestly, my audience grieved with me in this wild way,
(17:07):
and I think my comedy just became so much richer
because I had such a more pointed point of view
and i'd like really been through something raw, and it
exposed me and my comedy in a totally different way,
if that made any sense.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, you think that experience is I hate use the
word launch. You think that launched you though, to a
lot of people in their understanding or appreciation of you.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Yeah, for sure. And it just made you know, it
humanizings in a way. And I think so many people
reach out to me and they're like, I'm going through loss,
I'm going through this, and oh for sure, it definitely
opened me up. But also using social media as that,
using that specific tool, I really honed that honed that
skill of that little fifteen second Instagram story. It's like
(17:48):
all these kids that are blown up on TikTok. I
was the and then I did put all my characters
on Instagram and that's how it just like took off.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I'm friends with Dena Hayes.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I love Dnay.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
She's the best, the best, right, the best because she's fearless.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah, and I often look back at how naive I
was a lot of times, and I'm very lucky I
was that naive because if you actually knew what was
about to happen, maybe you wouldn't pursue it.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Right, Yeah, that's terrifying.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
So but I love Tonay and to watch her do
a version of that, I think a lot inspired by
you as well. I think she she'd often say that too,
but you know, she just kind of lays all of
her characters.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah, every all of her jokes.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah, do you find there are there's like a different
I hate say generation because you're similar ages. But yeah,
but they just did a little after you that that
saw you do that, and it kind of motivated them
to do that same thing.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I mean, listen today, is one of my favorite people
on the planet, and if she gives me any credit,
I'm so honored that she does so. But these they're
knocking it out of the park. But for sure, I
think and I miss that, like the wild thing is
when you start having success, like I always started in
stand up, right, So for me, it's tough because the
characters bring me so much joy and it's so freeing
and I love being that insane and ridiculous and goofy
(19:00):
and silly. But then it's like I did the characters
to get the stand up portion, and now I want
to go back to the characters. So you know, when
I have a new audience, they know me from stand up,
but the ogs know me that that's how I started, right,
So I mean, I'm going to do this show for
Netflix as a joke, and I was like, I can
either do my hour that I'm going to shoot two
weeks after this comedy festival, or I'm going to go
(19:21):
back and do a character show and put on a
ball cap and get weird and do what I want
to do. Like I'm ready to tap into that avant
garde performance art because that's what brings me a lot
of joy. You know, anybody can go see my stand up.
Come on tour Heather atour dot com.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
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Speaker 3 (19:49):
After you record your hour. Yeah, when you start over,
completely start over.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
And I always record my hour at the end of
my tour. Some people like to do in the middle,
but I it is such weird feeling because you shoot
the hour and then you walk off stage and you're like, oh,
that was so much fun with a relief, and then
you're like, oh shit, I got to start from scratch again.
It is the weirdest mental game with yourself.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Will you do smaller shows and practice material or we
just launch another tour and just no.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I will definitely do go and club it out and
I will go live my life this summer. I will
have a full blown experience and then I'll work the
clubs you know, in the fall, and then do another tour.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Do you ever pop in and never not tell people
you're coming?
Speaker 1 (20:33):
No? Not really, I mean no, I'll let them know.
But yeah, I'll pop in and do shows here and
there and just kind of feel it out. But I
also too the way my story runs because I'm an
old theater kid and I probably said this on too
many podcasts, but I like to have an idea of
a full show. I will lock myself in my basement
in my office for two weeks and just beautiful. Mind
(20:56):
it out, you know what I mean? It will look
like the scene from Homeland with Kirie Mathison and all
the things connecting. I like to have a full story.
And then obviously I write on the road and figure
things out. But I am going out with an hour.
I will figure that out. I will work out chunks
and clothes, but I am when you were coming to that.
I really like to have it all. It's a feeling.
I want you to feel a bunch of different emotions
(21:17):
at my shows from the moment that you walk in.
That playlist is going to set the exact tone and
mood the video, like every element, it's a full production.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
You did a cruise last year, you're do any of
this year. I've never been on my cruise before. We
did one too.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
It's pretty wild.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
You're contained, You're contained, and you're you're just vulnerable.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, vulnerable is the best way to describe it.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
And that's not a negative thing. It's both.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
It's both, but you're it's contained and vulnerable. And what
did you think about that experience?
Speaker 4 (21:45):
I had the best four days of my life.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
It was four days.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
It was four days or four nights, five days, right, okay.
It was unreal and I was in a sorority, so
I knew. I felt like this was going to be
one giant chapter meeting. I was pumped. Well, first of all,
it's surreal because I'm on I'm in this like insane
suite that overlooks the lido deck. People cannot see in,
but I can see out. So every morning at six am,
the entire production staff would stand out on the deck.
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They would raise flags on the side of the ship
that have my face on it. And I was standing
in the window with my hands behind my back, and
my husband walks by and goes, okay, Kim Jong Un,
I doubt like, you look insane. I was like, here,
I am looking over my hermit kingdom. It was wild.
But then the experience on the ship was so much fun.
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I basically say, it's like adult spring break meets a
chapter meeting meets girls gone Wild and the best way,
it was just the best four days of wholesome, non
judgmental We are all have the same mind, same likeness,
and we just want to have a good time. It was.
It was thrilling. I loved it, and that's why when
it was such a success and They're like, do you
(22:52):
want to do another one? I was like, let's go.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
How did you feel?
Speaker 3 (22:56):
I get really see sick in motion sick. I scroll
on my phone, I get sick if I'm walking. It's
it's terrible.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Are you like constantly on a drip of dramma meetings
over it?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
It doesn't work, really doesn't work. And I had a
really bad experience at a Sean nat Gio for a
while and yeah, we spent time on the water and
I threw it the whole time and so I had
to get up in between throw ups to shoot and
so my all, my it was just miserable trauma from it,
big time. And so I was like, I don't know
if this is gonna work. But they really wanted to
do it, and I agreed. But I said, hey, I'm
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gonna come on. I'm gonna do three nights of the
seven Sweet seven night cruise.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Oh wow, I know.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah, But also but I have such insecuritybout people even coming,
So I thought, this is an expensive ticket.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Yeah, we would we all do, right?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
So I was I think mostly I was really worried
about that, and I used the motion sickness as an
excuse for so long because I'm like, I'm seasick, right,
I'm really I just to think people would buy tickets
to come on a cruise right with me and no
us And so I got a little emotion sick. I'm
in a musical comedy do We played a couple of
shows that night and it was good.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
But my wife was nine months pregnant at the time.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
And our doctor was like, you really should not go
on the cruise, right, But it was these people. I
paid three thousand.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Dollars to be going on the cruise.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Listen, this is showbiz baby.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Okay, she can be crowning, but you know what you're doing, lights,
camera action, we're doing the bits off the cruise.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
So went on the cruise for the first part of
the cruise.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Had to leave a little early because my wife and
the doctor was like, hey, if you're going to go,
you can't be trapped at sea at any time.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Like, if you're gonna be able.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
To get to a port each day, you're all good. Right,
So did that didn't get that sick. I liked that
everybody kind of got to know each other. Yeah, there's
that initial like what's I'd never buen on a boat
that big either.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
That to me was wild to see a boat with elevators.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
See I grew up cruising. Let me tell you something
right now, your girl thrives.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Oh shit, I never mind.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
We were like the kids at the Captain's table. I
had the Shirley Temple curls. I'm drinking a Shirley Temple.
I'm in like my my debutante dress, and I, you know,
hanging out.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
With Mickey and Minnie. I thrived.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Do you know mean Disney cruises I did as a kid.
I mean, I just I love every aspect of it
and i' love that you're trapped. People who know me
know that I like to trap people. Like at my wedding,
the biggest compliment was not about the flowers, the food.
The biggest compliment was bringing people from all aspects timelines
of my life. And they were like, I loved your
friends from LA I loved your old miss friends, and
(25:15):
now everyone's still friends. I get a sick high off
of like we're all having fun together? Is everyone having fun?
Like I could be miserable, but I'm like, are you
having so much fun? It's the sickness. I don't know
what it is. Somebody diagnosed me online please, But I
love bringing a sense of community.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
I was afraid to commit to a second one. As
soon as it's sold out. There were like, let's do
a second one, but I haven't been on the first
one yet. Yeah, and so I was like, I can't
do it. I can't commit to a second one. I
don't know how I'm gonna feel. And then two, I
don't know if I'm gonna like it. And it was great,
So we committed to a second one for next year
as well.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Great you should.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
I'd never been, but i'd never seen a boat with
an elevator. All I saw was.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Fot bottoms, five bottoms and trollo motors where I grew up.
So that was that was wild to actually get on,
like if it's a freaking airport, it's like a massive
airport to get on the boat.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
And then you're on the boat and you're like, Okay.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
When it leaves doct you're like, well we're doing this,
we're in international waters, we're out here.
Speaker 6 (26:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
It was pretty. It was much cooler than I thought
it was going to be.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
I didn't get a sick as I thought I was
going to, and I liked the experience because I thought
it would be weird around our being trapped.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
I don't like being trapped. I'm a bit control guy.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Okay, and I see that, and I like that, but
I respect that because I am not a control gal.
I need more control of my life. I have no boundaries.
I'm like, what is your name? Okay, Carl, come on over.
I'm gonna make you a grilled cheese. Tell me your
family drama, and then we'll end up exchanging social Security numbers.
Like I need to have boundaries in my life.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
So I love that you're a control person.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
I will say it was so funny, I now after
I mean, we learned so much on the first cruise.
But when I say, like, it was actually so much fun,
if I feel this anxiety of how do we top
the next one? And Dene's coming on the next cruise
and we have such a fun lineup and we're going
to continue to add more talent, but I literally am like,
that was so much fun. And I got off the
ship and I did not even know what an adrenaline.
(26:57):
I mean just crash though afterwards, because and I also
learned how to maintain my energy. But every night I
would be dancing into club with everybody shout out to
DJ John Stamps. I literally told our DJ said, I
want you to play to early two thousands rap and
we are going to beat from the windows to the walls.
I want to be grabbing my ankles, busting down, thought Tiana.
(27:18):
And when I just saw the unbridled joy on everyone's face,
just letting their hair down at three am in open waters,
just having a blast, that was the highlight of the ship.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
But then every night I would sit.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
I never got to any of the restaurants because you know,
you're working, you're running around. I didn't sleep for five
days and I would sit. And my manager found me
one night in my room in between shows and I'm
just eating a tea bone steak by myself, and she's like,
are you okay. I was just in silence in the
dark eating steak. I was like, I just have to
recalibrate for a minute. And so I only lived off
steak on the ship because I would have like a
(27:53):
twenty minute window to like scarf something down.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
I'm like pure protein. I just see protein.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
So my butler in this ship was like, she's had
a lot of stakes, like we're worried about her.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
She hasn't shit in four days.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Did you ever watch the show on Netflix about the
woman that was on the cruise?
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Did I the one who went missing?
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
So actually I said the next cruise, we should just
go to that port and cure us how and we
will find them. If I have two thousand women on
a ship, you don't think we could find her in
thirty five minutes.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
You just release all at once, release the hound, Yeah, truly.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Release the hounds are all running around, and like Lily Pulitzer,
they would find her. I was furious by that documentary me.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Too, And when I was on the cruise, I had
perfectly time to watch it. I don't know, two weeks
before and one of the cruise, like I'm more on Yeah, yeah,
I shouldn't have watched it. It's like, yeah, you know,
watching airplane crash news before you get on the flight,
right And I watched her right before, and then I
found myself like looking to see someone I couldn't have
fallen over my boat, like there was nowhere to fall
into because there were like life boats around the side.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
What do you think happened to her?
Speaker 4 (28:57):
I think she was trafficked.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
I think she got off the island, whether she was
drugged or she was kind of had a wild night
and ended up leaving with that guy. And I think
she's still alive. I think she's somewhere out there. Okay,
the part of the documentary, and I haven't seen it in
a minute, so correct me if I'm wrong. The part
of the documentary were somebody flags that like the dad
found a essentially, you know, an ad for her online. Yeah,
(29:21):
and nobody tried to order her. She was like down
in Venezuela.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
I would have been like, hello, order, yes, how much
money one hundred thousand dollars send her my way? Can't
wait to be a pervert. And then you're like, she's ohned.
We got I mean what yeah, yeah, say I was here.
Look I got goosebumps. Right now. I'm so angry about
that documentary.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
I just don't trust that documentaries are really giving me
the three sixty of the reality of what they found.
That they're giving us what they found, but they're adding
or taking a little away for the sake of the
entertainment of us, right taking in the story. Because there
was also the part during the Christmas when whomever it
would always come to her website Christmas and Thanksgiving. Yes,
And it was like, can you not track back, like
(29:59):
we have the abilit to track everything.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
They're listening to this to our phone right now.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
They're monitoring, you know, whatever governorate. They're making sure you
and I are saying straight stuff right now. Yeah, we
can't figure out who where that's coming from, who's logging
onto that site?
Speaker 1 (30:13):
First of all, And I would have never left the
island if that was my kid. My ass would be
in curious. How I would be a resident. I would
run for president, I'd be the mayor. I would run
the whole damn country after that. And I thought about
that when I saw that, I was like, my dad
would have never left that island. It wouldn't have happened.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Now.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
I know you you know, we don't know all the details,
but I was just like, and I'm not a parent,
but I could only imagine if my kid was missing,
and I know she was what twenty one, No, I
wouldn't be I'd be there.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
I'd be running the damn country.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
It's a great point though, by just ordering the kid.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Yeah, why didn't you order it? Order the damn kid?
Speaker 1 (30:49):
And at that point she was like thirty it looked
like her, and then they had like that FBI forensic
gal who was like, yeah, the tattoos match up. You know, shit,
the tattoos match up.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Yeah, And it's not a like they did that kind
of evaluation of it as well, like there's been no
heavy manipulation.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Of the picture. Yeah, that's a crazy one. So you
don't have kids, don't have kids.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I was asking my wife some questions because I had
listened sporadically to the podcast.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
That's where I've consumed most of you. It's a weird
thing to say, but I've consumed most of it.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
I like that, honestly, kind of sexy.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Okay, I'll take it.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
She said that you were talking about and I may
mess this up, so always forgive me. You were talking
about possibly IVF, but you were talking about how how
you were doing it and you were doing it wrong,
and someone messaged you and said, hey, you're not doing
this correctly.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah. So I did IVF wrong twice in a row.
During the pandemic. I was home off tour and I said, okay,
I'm going to get proactive about my fertility. I went
in thought it was going to be a quick in
and out. I'm going to get a couple embryos, easy,
breezy and really, you know, I have control of my life.
I get in there and my doctor's like, uh, you
should have done this ten years ago. So I had
(31:55):
to get really aggressive with trying to get some eggs.
I did two rounds of it. You're doing what two
weeks of shots, you know, five shots a day. The
first round we couldn't get any eggs, right, Like, I
had nothing developed enough to retrieve an egg. And then
I'm talking about it on the podcast because that's also
like my weekly therapy is just trauma dumping on the podcast.
(32:15):
And then I went for another round and they were like,
you're completely mixing the medicine wrong.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
So I would prey to just nurses on the internet.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah, dms who are like, hey, you're not doing this right,
cause I would pre batch it. So you have to
mix all these you know, medicines together. First of all,
I'm not a chemist. It's insane to me that they
send home me, a civilian of the world, just to
go home and mix all these drugs and then inject myself. Unreal.
Now I know that there's like concierge nurse services where
they can come over and like make sure you do
it right. I went to Ole Miss like okay, And
(32:47):
so I was pre batching the medicine and then putting
it in the biles and putting it on a tray
in my uh, in my fridge in the garage, like oh,
it's fine. They're like, no, you have to mix the medicine.
In that moment, you know, I just I threw thousands
of dollars to the drink because I didn't read the
directions right. So kids read the directions thoroughly, but no,
it was very complicated. And also my body was just
(33:09):
like you know what, howther we decide we're going to
give you some more material, so we're just gonna have
you struggle a bit. And then I finally did a
Hail Mary third round and we got one embryo and
it's wild now with the technology. So I know, I
have a daughter on ice.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Like that's why they know the gender.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
They know the gender. Uh huh, I have a daughter
on ice. So I'll probably do another round this fall
to try and get some more. But it's a gnarly
and of course I wanted to share that experience. I
get asked a lot like what made you share this?
I'm like, cause I know that my audience, that's eighty
percent women. How many of them are also going through
this experience? How many of them were like what in
(33:44):
the hell am I doing right now? And no one
talks about it. And then you go to the fertility clinic.
You're sitting on couches, you know, four couches this size.
Everyone's in there doing the same blood draw confused, bloated,
pissed off, angry, unwell. And then the men will always
come in and like drop off their like semen sample,
and they kind of come in sheepishly and they're like, hey,
(34:05):
you know, it's like walk away. We don't care, Bruce,
get out of here, just leave us. We're all pissed
off because we're on hormones. You know, it was a
semen sample.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Things embarrassing though, So.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Inside I had to do that.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
You had to do that, well, I am not twenty five.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Yeah, and so before my wife and I were like, hey,
we're going to have a baby, I was like I
need to get tested, yeah, and so I proactively went up.
That's a weird thing to do because everybody knows what
you're doing.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Everybody knows what's like.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
They know what the cooler we know, baby, well, no,
they even know once you go in there, like what's like.
They know behind that door there's no X ray vision,
but they know what's happening behind you.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
They know you're sitting on that awkward leather couch with
your just your magazines. If you will, you know, it's
crazy and this is not bringing a hip of violation
because we don't know who did this. I had a
nurse DM me. She said that in her clinic they
have a problem with older men. They will come in
and they instead of giving a semen sample. It's like
(34:59):
an older guid and he's on his third marriage to
a younger woman and instead of giving their proper sample
in a cup, they will spit in the cup instead,
because you know, they want to pregnant. They don't want
her to get pregnant. They don't want to have kids.
They don't have the balls to be like, hey, Trish,
don't want to have another kid with you. So they
say they see this a lot that these old and
then they just have to say, oh, it's an inconclusive
(35:20):
you know specimen. We can't we can't read it. And
they'll just do it over and over again. And then
they've been like, have the balls to tell your wife
you don't have kids?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
And they probably all know what's going on, and they
all look at each other.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Like, yeah, inconclusive.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Inconclusive, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
That's crazy. So if you're a young gal out there
and you're married to an old man and you're getting inconclusive,
sit him down, take him for all of his money
and he's not giving you a kid.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Yeah, well I got I didn't get inclusive. I got
Lebron on mine. Yeah it's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Hell yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
They came out and they were like, which one of you?
Speaker 4 (35:52):
Yep, that's right.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
I thought for sure it was going to be I
could blame my husband for this, but he also was
a Lebron. But now now he's addicted to zens. He's
fully addicted to zens, and if we're gonna do another round,
I keep getting these ads like, you know, get off
nicotine for a while. And my husband, you know, listens
to like a biohacking thing where it's like, oh, you
can have forty five zens in your upper lip a day,
but because it's pure nicotine, you're gonna be fine. And
(36:15):
I'm like, oh, are you zened out right? Now?
Speaker 4 (36:17):
You get reroll zippy around the house. So I'm gonna have.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
To deal with that monster this summer, being like get
off the zen's.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
There are people like even Tucker Carlson. His clips will
come up talking about nicotine. Yeah, and he's going, Nicotine's great,
it's got a bad rap. Yes, yeah, Big Pharma is
trying to cancel nicotine.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
I'm I don't know who to believe about what now.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
I don't either, And the fact is that I see
some Tucker Carlson clips now and I'm like, he has
a point. I'm so confused.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
I think we're all very.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Confusedly comes up and I'm like, I agree, what the crap?
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Let me tell you something. My girlfriend said me a
clip of hers the other day, and I was like,
I'm gonna have to dial into this twelve part series
of what's happening? I mean, really, truly, we are living
the up down, up is down, left is right. I
don't know what's happening, but yes, And then I've also
heard of some women that will do the nicotine patches
and it's supposed to be great for your hormones. So
I'm willing to be a guinea pig and try anything
(37:13):
for the greater good. But my husband seems to say
that the yeah, the zen pouches are really elevating his health,
and I'm like, I don't think that's the case.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
How do you feel about bringing the kid into the world.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
That's a great question.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
I just had a baby, and I struggle not with
having a baby, but with like, what is happening. But
then I think to myself, Okay, prohibition happens. Yeah, And
these parents are like, we can't believe kid, our kids
are going to be around on alcohols here because they
went through prohibition right and with us now and they're
(37:47):
like twelve year olds who won't think weed's weird when
they get older because it's legal in a lot of places.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
But and this is a weird thought.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
But I'm like, well, my daughter, who was just born
weeks ago, think that aliens are normal?
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Will they be real?
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Yeah? Her buddies, well yeah, because it kind of hopes
like that's happening now, Like what will she have the internet?
Speaker 2 (38:05):
For example, when we were young, like we got to
see no internet and internet, you know, if you're born
in like the eight I was born in the eighties. Eighties, Yeah,
we got to not have internet and have internet, so
we got that. We're and so kids now don't know
not having the internet. Yeah, but that also brought a
lot of bad I just I just struggle with like
what she's going to.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Struggle with it all the time, and you know, I
really do. I'm like, do I need to bring another
person into this world?
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Now?
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Does the world need another person?
Speaker 6 (38:31):
Then?
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (38:32):
But then I think, like I'm fun so yes, like
maybe I maybe my offspring is the one who can
change the world. Probably not. Yeah, it is a gnarly feeling.
And I agree that we did grow up in the
best time because I mean, there was nothing better than
dial up internet, right that cord went into the back
of the phone jack and then went into the back
of the computer, and then the phone line was tied up,
(38:53):
so like if God forbid there was a family emergency,
no one knew Grandma died because you were like in
chat room, just tinkering away. Those were the golden years.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Okay, chat rooms were awesome.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Chatrooms were the best. Chat rooms were the absolute best.
So I agree, and I mean I'm even trying to
like understand AI and do all this and really stay up,
and even my brain feels rattled. I think I am
getting dumber, I will say, like the brain is completely fried.
So I'm trying to figure out how to have a
sense of like I don't want computers to run my life,
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but like how do I not use Google? Like how
do I actually have my syneps fire enough so that
I can make decisions on my own without asking my phone.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
I feel like my brain rot comes from slowly replacing
reading with TikTok, Like, yes, just slowly, slowly, And I'm
trying to, you know, be purposeful with reading books because
it's so easy not to because there's so much content everywhere,
and I find myself doing the same going. I'm probably
day by day slowly just on TikTok more, which is
not good. Obviously it's not good for our brains.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Oh the rot. I mean, I get to the point
where it's like the little like night owl pops up
and it's like you've been scrolling for three and a
half hours.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
You're gonna die soon? Please?
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Are you okay? Are you okay?
Speaker 4 (40:05):
I say, your Bible, bitch, like figure it.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Out, like when China's asking you through TikTok if you're okay, Yeah,
something is wrong because I do the same thing.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
That message comes on.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
It's like a young woman, Hey, yeah, maybe she'd get
off TikTok.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Maybe she get off TikTok.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
Maybe you should like let your brain simmer for a
little bit.
Speaker 6 (40:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
And isn't it in China that they don't allow.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
You can't get on it.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
You can't get on it. It's only learning to take education
until like twelve years old. Smart, but they give it
to us. That's full McDonald's.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
I thought about downloading one of the apps, and I
don't know if they're kind of bs, but it will like
teach you history lessons instead, so you still get the
addiction of like scrolling, but you're learning about, like I
don't know, you know, a.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Couple of world wars. That's what I need to do.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
I don't know if that addiction would feel the same.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
But then I see like this, there's a guy right
now who ordered eggs off Facebook marketplace and he and
he's in a fight with this woman, and I'm like,
I need to know about the eggs from Facebook marketplace.
Like I am dialed in to random people's drama and
I it brings me so much joy in my life.
And then I'll sit down at dinner with people who
are not on TikTok and they have no idea what
I'm talking about.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
I'm like, you guys are losers. Get with the program.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
There was a double edged.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Sword the story of the Charlie Sheen documentary where he
was maybe hardcore on crack and whatever the drug was,
and they started slowly weakening it.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
That's what I need to happen.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
I made like some of the fifteen second tiktoks to
be history lessons, like out of my control. I just
need to see this is Thomas Jefferson, even if I
just need people to replace it slowly, because I get
the same thing.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
I need to know what the Alex Cooper Alex Earl
drama is, and then I also need to know about
what was Thomas Jefferson about.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
I respect that.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
And then you can hit me with Brianna Chicken Fry,
but I need Thomas Jefferson in the middle of.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
I need to know about the Egyptian Times.
Speaker 6 (41:48):
Same The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is
the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Do you ever pull videos? Do you ever put one
on and then go like that? Either didn't work or
I don't like what I said and take it down.
Speaker 4 (42:10):
No, I definitely think they're listen.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
I have a team now that helps me like figure
out the algorithm, and even then I haven't figured it out.
Speaker 4 (42:16):
I do think there are days where I'm like, what
is happening?
Speaker 1 (42:19):
But no, I don't really pull I am so I
know that I can't compete with these kids who have
TikTok down to a fucking science.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
So I'm just like, let it rip.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Just let it rip.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
And the videos that are not produced that.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Is it's literally me picking up my phone and be like,
this is what I feel in this exact moment are
always the ones that go viral. So I hate getting
these like hype reels about like look at how glamorous
tourists look, at how crazy it is. We do it
because we sell tickets, but in the reality people want
to hear me bitch about whatever you know, feud I'm
having at that exact moment with my husband.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Do you still get nervous about ticket sales?
Speaker 1 (42:52):
I mean, for sure, everybody, right, I mean, I've been
very blessed that it's been successful, but yeah, there are
days and I'm I'm still even going into newer markets
where I mean, I feel like I've hit every market,
but there's still days where I'm like, hey, i've never
played Juno, let's go, you know, and you don't know
what's going to happen. But it's also so competitive. I'm
so honored that people come to my shows and have
(43:14):
a good time, that I have repeat customers. I'm like,
that's what it's about. And yes, if new people come along, fantastic,
but I'm doing it for the people who've been there
since the beginning.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Are there any comedians now that you look at and
have like a professional healthy jealousy of because they're so good?
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Oh? Yeah, well, you know, I think it's just incredible
to see like what Leanne's done, and you know, I
have like eight shows and development and then they never
get picked up. So I would like to Being on
the road is the most magical thing, and stand up
is my one true love, but I would love to
be acting more so. Anybody who's been able to have
their own show or to translate that to television, that's.
Speaker 4 (43:49):
Really my first love. So I would love to have that.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
Yeah, like that's why Whitney's cool. Yeah, Well she's also
she's very funny.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
She's very funny.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
She also writes for other people very funny, and she'll
rites for herself very funny. Like she kind of nails
all of those. When you say you have all these
shows in development, are you the center of all them?
Speaker 1 (44:07):
I am the center of all them. But this show
that I have at Hulu right now is my real
joy because I'm finally playing somebody other than myself. And
again it taps, and this is the one. Please, dear God,
let this go, let this go to get picked up.
This is the one where I'm like, it's tapping into
the like how I started, where yes, stand up will
always be about me, but playing a gnarly role where
(44:29):
I'm telling somebody else's story that I've of course written
and created is really what I want to do. You know,
I got into comedy because I grew up on Joan
Rivers and if I could emulate her career, I mean,
I'm obsessed with her. I got to meet her. She
gave me your blessing in comedy. I feel very grateful
for that. But like, my dream is to eventually be
on QVC one day, hawking pajminas and talking to women
(44:51):
in the middle of the night while I'm smoking cigarette
and drinking white wine, being like, honey, tell me you
problems you need for forty nine ninety nine. You can
have two calf t hands that'll make can you feel fantastic?
Like that's the goal, right to just have a product,
sell it, and then I'll live in the Dirks and
Caicos or in Tuscany and you'll never have to hear
my annoying voice ever again.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
The fact that she would save and organize all of
her jokes, Yeah, it was pretty amazing, pretty amazing, how
attention to detail she was. Yeah, Like, and then you
know Jean Smart and Hacks is loosely roughly based on
that situation.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
And you said you get to meet her.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
I got to meet her, So I would go.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
I worked at a restaurant on forty third between eighth
and ninth, and there was a club right across from it,
and when i'd get off my shift, I'd go see
Joan and she would have these giant note cards on stage.
I mean, she was in her eighties, had these giant
note cards on stage and she's ripping through jokes. And
I would always like hang outside the back door and
she would come out and I'm beg Miss Rivers, I
(45:48):
love you.
Speaker 4 (45:48):
I have a lot of photos with her.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
And she was so kind. So I moved to La.
I'm in. I'm sitting in out at this bar by
myself that my buddy was bargaining at and I hear her.
I hear her walk in the door. She and she
was the one who told me. She said you need
go to LA. You've got a commercial look. So she
sits in a booth and I'm like, oh my god,
Miss Rivers is here. So I go up to the
booth and her assistant in me is like, do you
want a photo. I was like, no, no, no, I've got
a photo with Joan. I said, John, I want you
(46:11):
to know I followed your lead. You told me to
come to LA. I'm here and thank you so much
for giving me that advice. And I'm I'm three days in,
but I hopefully if this works out. She's so kind.
I go and sit back at the bar. She wraps
up her dinner. She comes up and she's like, I
have a good feeling about you. She said, you have hutzpah.
You followed your gut. You're gonna make it, don't worry
you got this. So when she passed away, I was
(46:34):
working at Soul Cycle and was Hollywood. I came out.
I had taken a class, so I'd come out of
the spin glass. The entire staff looks like like ill,
They're white as a ghost, and I'm like, what's going on.
I thought they were about to tell me my entire
family had died. They were like, you need to sit down.
Jones passed, I mean, and I was inconsolable. And I
knew her very very loosely right, just as a fan,
(46:56):
and I mean, people sent flowers to my apartment as
if she died.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
When she died, I was devastated.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
And so years later, after she had passed, they had
a big auction at Christie's and I didn't have any
money this one. I was like first starting out, and
all I wanted were these giant Tiffany silver dog bowls
with her dog's name on him. I was like, this
is so cool. Didn't have any money, didn't get them,
And then they just did another auction last year for
(47:23):
her stuff. And I'm on a flight on my way
to my show in Tampa and my I'm like, honey,
you got to get in there. Like, I can't do
this on the plane. And my husband won for me
one of her tour jackets.
Speaker 5 (47:33):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
And it's the first thing going in my new house.
It's gorgeous. It's like champagne color with feathers, and I'm
going to put it in a giant acrylic box. And
I want you to walk in my home and be like,
this is the house that Joan built.
Speaker 4 (47:44):
And I'm friends with Melissa.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
Now her daughter, and she brings me on her podcast
and it is so full circle. Like when I started
doing the e red Carpets, it was because you know,
Joan did it. It's just I love her so much
and she was really my idol in comedy.
Speaker 3 (47:59):
Who else you know?
Speaker 1 (48:02):
I go back. I loved a Richard Pryor. I love
a Carlin. I liked anybody who said the thing, who
did not hold back and who said it. And I
think if Carlin was around right now, my god, you
go back and watch this stuff. It is so poignant.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
I watched I literally watched George Colin, I do Advertiser
Allla by last Ar.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Everything that he's saying back then twenty thirty years ago
is happening right now.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Yeah, And the story of his special that he recorded
right before nine to eleven.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
Yeah, crazy, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
I was a massive George Carland fan. I never got
to see him and do a live show, and I
bought tickets to see a show and he was coming
to Austin. I lived in Austin at the time, and
he was playing in the Paramount, which is like my
favorite theater, and he died like a week before I
got to go watch him. But I was a massive
fan then, and to watch his stuff now it resonates
so hard right now, I don't think I fully got it,
or maybe times weren't.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
Is crazy for me.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
Then I had a theater teacher at a very religious
school that I went to in Atlanta, and he would
always tell me, He's like, Heather, you loved Carlin, and
he like wasn't supposed to be pushing Carlin on me,
and was like, trust me, trust me, you'll like the
Doobie Brothers and you'll love George Carland. And so I
was like forty and listening to Carland like he just
I adored him.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
When I did my honors thesis in college at Present,
it was seventy pages and it was in front of
the faculty wow, And I did it on his the
seven words you can't say on TV radio, right, but
I did.
Speaker 3 (49:22):
I use that.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
But how the industry and the FC is changing, and
you can say some of these words now, but I
used his like I was such a I was so
inspired by George Carlin.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
I used that entire Well it's more than a joke,
but that monologue with which is one of the best.
Speaker 4 (49:38):
Yeah, and I love that.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
And you know, I hate now when people are like,
are you a clean comic or like, you know, don't
you love clean comics? That's great, that's their thing. But
my whole, my whole shtick is it's not even a stick.
I'm saying the things on stage that all of my
girlfriends are saying while they're playing majong, while they're in
their mommy and me group, while they're figuring it out.
So why would I filter myself on stage? If that's
(50:01):
if these are the real conversations that are people that
people are having.
Speaker 3 (50:04):
Do you feel that it hurts you in privates at all?
Or do you just clean up it when you.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
Do a private uh wait, we'll say that again, like
a private gig gig? Oh no, I mean I listen
I can clean up for corporate all day long. I mean,
those corporate gigs are fantastic. Send me to a convention
center somewhere in Boise and I will what are we
selling wind decks? I will do windex jokes all day.
I'm trying to buy a boat, you know. But no, no,
it doesn't hurt me. But it's it's funny too. Especially
(50:28):
being a female comedian, people will say, like, so you're
not a clean comic. I'm like no, And just because
I'm a woman, if that's always a question, I'm going
to say the things that all women are saying on stage,
like why would I Now, I can't say that Ford,
what are we doing here? We're adults. We're adults here,
you know.
Speaker 5 (50:47):
Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor,
and we're back on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
How do you know the show didn't go well?
Speaker 1 (51:04):
Yeah, you can feel it? Can I tell you? When
you know the show crushed? You could be out there.
Of course, your fans are gonna love your shit. When
I walk off stage.
Speaker 4 (51:12):
And a security guard it's like, damn, girl, let me
get your number.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
They're like, really love the shit. When I walk off
stage and I've either made one of the union guys
in a theater laugh really hard or a security guard.
I'm like, I crushed.
Speaker 3 (51:26):
I've seen every show and as also, they're doing a job.
Speaker 1 (51:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:29):
Yeah, they didn't come for that, they just come to
do their hours.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
Yeah. I was just in Red Bank, New Jersey, and
I love that theater. And these guys afterwards are like
I'm telling you right now, we filmed so many specials here.
That was the funniest night. I had so much fun.
Oh my god. You know, have you thought about doing TV?
You know, they think they've discovered you. I'm like, I
played this theater four times, like you really should think
about doing this full time. And I'm like, I had
a sold out show, serve two thousand people, but yes,
(51:54):
I will consider doing this full time. I had a
really good time and I'm like, thanks, mo, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (52:00):
What are you taking a break again?
Speaker 1 (52:01):
Uh this summer because I'm gonna shot my special at
the end of May in Knoxville and then you won't
see me for two months. You know. Of course I
have my podcast and were running around, but I travel
in the summer and I just I unplug. Why Knoxville
you know it's funny. I love shooting my specials in
the South. My first one was in Kentucky. My last
one was at the Fox Seat in Atlanta. And after
(52:22):
this whole Lane Kiffin debacle at ole Miss, I had
so many people reach out to me from Tennessee and
they were like, Heather, we went through the same thing
as you. We know your heartbroken by Lane Kiffin going
to LSU. Please come shoot your special here. And I
adore Knoxville. It's a great comedy crowd. And I said,
you know what, We're all in this together. We're all
(52:43):
creepy together. I'm to shoot it in Knoxville.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
Have you met Pete Golden yet, the new coach?
Speaker 1 (52:47):
So I'm his wife is my sority sister, and she's
a oh way, yeah, yeah, so you're in. I'm in.
But I haven't met him yet, but you're in. I'm in.
Speaker 3 (52:57):
So if you know the wife.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
I'm in, shout out. I tell my Delta gave his sisters. Yeah,
so I'm in. And I really truly adore ole Miss
And I ended up there on a total whim. That's
not where I wanted to go to school. And it
ended up being the best four years of my life.
I now own a home there that I've went out
for football games and Oxford is such a magical place
and it truly changed my life. And so I'm just
(53:21):
the biggest old miss fan.
Speaker 3 (53:22):
Do you hate cow Bells?
Speaker 1 (53:23):
I hate him? Gets obnoxious.
Speaker 3 (53:25):
Yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 1 (53:26):
The only time each every year cow Bell is in
the Will Ferrell SNL sketch. Okay, other than that, you're
out of your minds. And I even dated a guy
that went to who lived in Starkville and I never
once visited him.
Speaker 4 (53:36):
I said, if you want this relationship to work, you're
gonna have to come to Oxford. I'm not going down there.
Speaker 1 (53:41):
And I have plenty of friends that went to Mississippi State,
but I'm like, no, I'm not going there. Yeah, absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (53:46):
I really appreciate coming by. This has been awesome.
Speaker 1 (53:48):
Hey, I'm such a fan of yours and I really
appreciate it, and and I just you know, it's it's
such a refreshing, honest conversation. And congratulations on everything you're doing. Truly.
Speaker 3 (53:57):
Oh thanks, Yeah, I had a baby, that's all we're doing.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
Listen, that's huge.
Speaker 3 (54:01):
That's I mean, I'm saying that's all like, that's what it's.
It's a lot.
Speaker 1 (54:05):
It's a lot. It's a lot, and you know a.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
Great way, And I want to make sure that nobody's
confusing what I'm saying. Yeah, it's awesome, but it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (54:14):
It's a lot, and you're obviously a good dad and
a good partner, so you want to you're all all
hands on deck.
Speaker 4 (54:20):
And I think it's a lot. It doesn't matter who
it's happening to.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
It's a lot.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
I feel like I don't think I'm a good dad
or good partner, and hopefully that makes me a good partner.
Speaker 1 (54:28):
Oh wow, why do you think that you're not a
good dad or partner? Because and it does make you
a good partner because you actually care.
Speaker 3 (54:34):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
I'm so concerned about it, yea, that I don't know
if there's actual actually the ability to be a good
dad or good partner, because whatever it is, I don't
feel like I meet whatever standard that is. But then
I can go, well, maybe that's what makes me a
good partner because I continue to try to achieve a
higher standard.
Speaker 1 (54:49):
Yeah, yeah, I got goals and expectations for yourself.
Speaker 3 (54:52):
Spend a lot of time in therapy. I got two therapists.
Speaker 4 (54:54):
Listen, I've got a therapist.
Speaker 1 (54:55):
And she told me the other day, she was like, so,
when are you gonna start feeling your feet? I said, huh,
I said, Claire, what do you mean? She goes, when
are you gonna start getting like emotional and like crying?
I said, do you want me to cry? Because I
don't have time to cry. I literally told her that.
She's like, I can tell you're an impath and you
feel other people's feelings very deeply, Like I can read
a room. I can spot at the back of a
(55:15):
bar that's some some gals upset. I can feel it,
but I don't know how to feel mine because I'm like,
I don't have time to be upset. We got to
keep working. We got shit to do. Like, I'll get there,
I'll move on.
Speaker 3 (55:25):
Do you go to therapy regularly now, can you? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (55:28):
I mean it's all over you schedule. Yeah, I'm not
doing in person. You know my girls in Birmingham shout
out to Claire.
Speaker 2 (55:33):
Do not feel like somebody's gonna be like I won't
do therapy on zoom. I feel like people are watching me.
Speaker 1 (55:38):
You don't think they could have a hidden camera in
the little vase. They got that nice orchid on their desk.
Please there we Gordon, I'll trust no one. Here's my
thing though, too. I share so much of my life.
There's nothing that would come out in therapy that somebody
would be like, wow, bombshell.
Speaker 2 (55:54):
Like I probably already said it on my own podcast.
All right, we talked about it before you came in.
But Heather on right, Heather on tour dot com website.
And then the cruise absolutely not yet naps.
Speaker 4 (56:06):
Not cruise. It's Heather at sea dot com.
Speaker 1 (56:08):
And if you've never been on a cruise, I'm telling
you this is the perfect entry level to your cruise experience.
You'll have the time of your life. And honestly, I
just feel so insanely blessed and honored that people will
trust me, uh with their vacation experience and it is
It is just the most fun you'll ever have.
Speaker 2 (56:26):
I think any flags on my face on it, so
I need to put that into They never.
Speaker 1 (56:29):
Let them know. You want a full wrap of the
ship with your face and that is the most out
of body experience you walk on and you're like, who
the hell did one I didn't ask for it okay,
so I want everybody to know I'm not that vain,
but also too, it is really wild when you see
your face on a ship and you're like, what is happening?
Like people, I mean, I still get I'm still in
awe that people that this is my life and people
(56:50):
tune in, and I'm so grateful for that, but it
is crazy. I'm like, do you guys know that you
came to see me? Like I live with my mom,
Like everybody, calm down, you know. Heather, thank you, Hey,
thank you. This has been great.
Speaker 3 (57:02):
Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production
I had a nurse Dammy. She said that in her
clinic they have a problem with older men. They will
come in and instead of giving their proper sample in
a cup, they will spit in the cup instead.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
All right, Today's guest is Heather McMahon, comedian actress, the
host of the podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
She blew up on Instagram after moving back home and Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
We talked about this in just a second. You're gonna
hear the whole story.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
A very tough time in her life and that turned
into a lot of what she is now.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
And she is massive.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
When I told my friends she was coming up to
do this podcast, all of them wanted to come and
sit in. And you know what they all did, turn
the camera. Okay, we can't turn the camera, but they're
all here. Heather McMahon's here. Go see her tour. It's
the Bamboozle Tour right now, and she has a cruise
coming which we talk about tickets Heather ontour dot com.
She is the reason that everybody's in the studio right now.
(01:03):
They're very funny, Heather. Ic man, Heather, They're great to
meet you.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Hey, lovely to meet you.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
My wife sent me with information yeah, I've listened to
your podcast a lot through my wife.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, which is probably how a lot of dudes hear you, right.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah, They're laying in bed at night and they're like
trying to get some love and attention from their wives,
and they just hear my voice.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Over and over again.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
So they you either have like a love hate relationship
with me, and then they'll like come to a show
and they'll act like they don't want to come, and
then they're there and they have a blast, and then
they're the ones hanging out afterwards at the meet and
greet being like, hey, can I just get some solo
photos and you're like, yeah, yeah, Rick, I knew you
liked me. Yeah, but I love that. That is the
gentle entrance for a lot of men into my comedy
is you know, through their spouses, and that's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Well, my wife says, tell her that my wife and
I went to Italy for the first time a few
years ago. We've been a couple of times since, and
she didn't say it was you at first. She says, Hey,
we got a recommendation to go to this restaurant, okay,
and I was like great, So it's some place called
Paron or.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Yeah, yeah, that's what it is, treachery. Perione shout out.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
We got in there and.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I was like, who told you to come to this?
And she said, Heather and I said and then she
said it was you and I said, oh, you heard
it on the podcast. So now we've been twice though,
and she said it's so good though, right, yeah, it's great.
And I'd never been to Italy except I've gone now
twice with her.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
That's all.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
It's a really cool place.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
It's a great place, and you know it's funny. I
am not a creature of habit in any aspect of
my life except when I travel. I mean I go
to new places all the time. But when I have
my little I love, especially with Italy, it feels like
my second home. So when I go to Florence there,
which I spent a lot of time there, I have
my restaurants, I've got my I've got my espresso guy,
I've got my cheese guy. And Perione, I am so
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obsessed with the entire weight staff there. They came to
my after party at my wedding because I got married
a little outside of Florence and Tuscany, and the guy
showed up and we're like, you know, we were just
like ripping shots.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
And having a good time. So they are. They hold
a very special place in my heart.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
How long have you been married.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I've been married. We had a COVID court wedding in
twenty twenty, but i've you know, we had the big
Italy wedding a couple of years ago, so five total.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
So we got married around the same time.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
We got married during COVID and we had that brief
window where you could not wear masks, so yeah, super
mask then because we were massed up, and then it
was you could stop wearing masks.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
We timed it right.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
We had a wedding on our property and then it
was COVID again everybody had to wear masks again. So
we've been together about I mean, when did you guys,
how long did you have date before you married?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
I mean we have been together almost fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Oh, you've been together a long time, A long time. Yeah.
We met in New York in our early twenties and
then I moved to LA and we would have gotten
married our third date, but he wanted to finish his
grad program and I was moving to LA and that's
why I know him with the right person, because my
husband at no point, even when I was like I'm
going to leave New York and go to LA and
like follow the dream, he was like, I got to
let you do this because I never he said, I
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know we're in this for the long run, and I
don't ever want you to resent me for holding you back.
And that's when you know you have a good man.
So yeah, we're together a long time.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I was asking about your husband because another one of
my friends who's on my show, she had said this morning,
she said, you were going through your master's outfit.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, And she didn't know if there was a brand
called Dong by God.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah no, So she literally.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I was like, I don't think that's it. I think
that was a joke.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, that's a joke. So Jeff just has been doing
this thing. My husband is secretly one of the funniest
people in my life. He is just ridiculous and he's
so dry. But yeah, when he does his outfit outfit
of the day, he just started saying dong by God.
I don't know why, and people run with it. I
don't know where it came from, and I'm so mortified.
By it, but I say keep it going.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
You know, does he do anything in entertainment.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
No, absolutely not. I think my husband missed his real
calling to be like a sports analyst or to be
a football coach.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
And I know that every straight.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Male and their like mid thirties thinks that they were
at one point could have been a coach. But he
really has an analytic brain in a way that's just wild.
And I tell him, I'm like, you need to do something.
You need to go be the new like offensive lineman
coach for ole miss or something. And that's no hate,
no shade, whoever's doing the job right now. But you know,
I'm just like he is, so that's his He's really
(05:00):
really smart at that. But no, I would never date
anybody in entertainment.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
My wife is so funny and she just despises thinking
of her doing entertainment. We feel like it's such she
has such a skill. She's so funny, so sharp, so dry,
so cutting if she wants to be yeah, and has
no interest in using it at all.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
And I'm like, you're not using it, she goes, I
am with us.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Yeah. Well, and also I get all my best material
from my husband because he's just such an idiot in
the best way, like, in the most loving way. I
just live life. And that's a thing in comedy. You know,
you can go and just pound the pavement all the
time and work your craft, which we all do, but
if you don't actually just go out and live life,
like I take the summers off. And that's why I
go to Italy. I'm like, I know in two weeks abroad,
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I will get more material from my husband acting like
an absolute insane person while we're abroad.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Then I will just you know, hitting clubs every night.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Like you got to go and live life to have
a shared experience.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
So then what was you, guys? A story?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
If you guys, you didn't split, but you split off
for a bit, right if?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I mean we were we were wheeling and dealing, you know,
we say together and he was in New York finishing,
you know, starting his business, and I was out in
LA And then I moved back to Atlanta very abruptly
after my dad passed, and he's like, well, at least
you're back on the East coast. I mean, we had
two pennies to rub together. We would fly back and
forth to see each other. I mean it was unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
We were you know, you stay together the whole time.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's my boo. Yeah wow, uh
huh so. And then I moved back to Atlanta, and
right before my dad died very abruptly, but my husband
flew down to MD Anderson where my dad was uh
getting treatment, and you know, immediately asked for my dad's
hand in marriage for me, and uh, of course my
dad gave him my blessing.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Uh, gave him his blessing, and then the rest is history.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
How important was that too? Did he get down and
do that with your dad before he passed?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
You know, my my late father and my husband had
such a beautiful relationship. I'm sure he had asked him
a million times before, but it was I was so
touched by it, you know. And then when my dad passed,
I'll never forget. We're in Houston and I couldn't find
my husband. I like woke up and I was just like,
you know, trying to process everything, and I look for
my husband and I just see him in a park
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outside of our hotel and he's smoking a cigar, sitting
on a bench and tears are rolling down his face.
And I was like I have the best man. Like
it was one of those where I knew he needed
that moment to grieve my dad. And I feel so
blessed that I had two wonderful men in my life.
And I don't know, it's just I feel so richly
blessed that my dad really loved him.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
How does he do with your profession?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
He loves it, I mean, Jeff, that's the bit best thing. Like, yes,
I you know, do a lot of jokes at my
husband's expense on stage, but we are each other's biggest cheerleaders.
My husband loves it, you know, and also, like I
make the joke, he gets to play a lot of golf,
you know, because there's perks to the job.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Everywhere we go.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Wherever I'm on tour, there's about sixteen different husbands that
will DM me and be like can I take Jeff
to play golf today?
Speaker 4 (07:51):
I'm like, yes, get him out of my hair please.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
So he's been traveling the world getting to play every
exclusive golf course on the planet, which is very cool.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
But he loves it.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I mean, he's my bigges cheerleader and he you know,
it's funny because my last special breadwinner was all about
you know, me stepping into like my power, making more money,
like our crazy wedding. And every time I would get
asked a question from reporters I was doing press for it,
you know, what does your husband think about you making
fun of him on stage? And I'm like, no one
asked male comedians what their wives think, right, Like, you
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just know that's a part of the gig. And it
was so interesting how all of a sudden it was
like we have to feel bad for Jeff because I'm
making jokes like fuck that, you know, like I'm sorry.
He's doing fine, and he loves it. And I can
always see him, like when he's on the side stage
and I can see him out of the corner of
my eye and he's just like he's loving it. So
he's got a great since of humor. You have to
(08:41):
have a great sense of humor to be married to
a comic.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yeah, or does he watch every show?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Not every show? No, And he doesn't come to all
the shows with me.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Okay, I didn't know that was the case. So he doesn't.
He doesn't travel with you everywhere.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
No, he comes to the fun cities. But you know, like, no,
ain't no shade to the smaller markets. But there are
days where Jeff's like, I'm good, you know, and at
the end of thea I'm still married. So I will
get off stage and then he's like, so what are
we doing for dinner?
Speaker 4 (09:05):
I'm like, you figured it out. I just worked for
ninety minutes.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Like you, you make an order, Jeff, Like, there's still
the same marital roles even when you walk.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Off stage, so you won't make it any money and
you started to have success, did you feel like you
had become less relatable once you started to make money.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
No, I didn't think I became less relatable because at
the end of the day, I have people around me
who will not let me get away with shit. Okay,
I still live with my mother like my husband, and I,
even eight years into my career, just bought like our
first home that we're going to live solo in. Like finally,
I said, I need to be able to come off
the road and not have my mom yell at me
about my laundry basket like it's time. But I don't know.
(09:44):
I mean maybe some other people will say differently, but
I really I keep a tight knit group around me
of people that I've known for since I was a child,
So I feel blessed that we have a good group
around us.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I've listened to the episodes with your mom. Yeah, those
are so good.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, she's I mean, I I get my late father
was so so funny, but my mom is just unreal.
She's unhinged, and I feel again the material rights itself,
like when you were around Robin McMahon. She's insane. It's
just amazing.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Does she ever feel the love gratulation towards her? I mean,
is she ever out and people come up to her?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
She is worshiped, She is a goddess. She is an icon.
And the best thing is if you run into my
mom at our local Trader Joe's, she will give you
my personal phone number. And I've had this same phone
number since I was like fifteen, and first got a phone,
and then I got a burner phone. My manager was like,
too many people have your number. You need a different phone.
So then I got the new burner phone and then
no one calls that number, and it made me so sad.
(10:40):
So I just will answer random phone calls and they're like,
I met your mom at Trader Joe's.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
She gave me your number.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I'm going through a hard time and I'm like, all right, Carol,
tell me what's going on. I just love it.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
What did they think you wanted to be when you
were a kid?
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I said, I think we have somewhere on home video
like what I was four. I'm like, well, I'm going
to be a funny girl. It's just what I called it.
I either wanted to do that or be a lifeguard
because I thought that that was a full time gig.
And I just thought, you know, you'd sit in a
lifeguard stand in a c bathing suit and he chicken
tenders all summer, and I thought that would be awesome.
But uh, and then I took my essats and we
saw those results, and I was like, I'm gonna have
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to go into comedy because I'm definitely not going to
be a doctor. But no, I always wanted to do comedy.
And I was a theater kid growing up, did musical theater,
one act plays like competition plays, and then I got
a BFA for acting an ole miss. So this was
always kind of the trajectory. Now, whether or not it
was going to happen was the scary thing. And my dad,
who was very successful in his business would always say like, well,
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what if it doesn't happen.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
I'm like, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I don't know how to explain to people that there
was never there was a little voice in the back
of my head that said, just keep going. Be fearless
about it, because I was like, what do I have
to lose.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Was there ever a time you did almost quit?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yeah, like every like yesterday, you know, when I'm exhausted
and running around and like what's happening? Uh, for sure,
But I just kind of kept going. I always had
this feeling, this gut instinct that this is what I
wanted to do, and it didn't come from a vain place.
It's like I genuinely love to get up every day
and giggle, and I knew that other people would relate
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to that as well, So I mean, yeah, of course,
like it's great to see your name in lights and
do all this, and there's such a high about getting
on stage and having people admire you.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
For your work.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
But I truly was like, I just want to get
up there and giggle, and the fact that I can
make money at this is insanc.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Did you move to La already having done some comedy
like in college.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, so I actually did stand up. The first time
I ever did stand up, I was sixteen and I roasted.
I was at the junior senior prom and I roasted
the senior class. So I had like a thirty minute
set from that. I sent that old DVD to Jeff
Foxworthy because he lived a couple neighborhoods down for me
in Atlanta, and I dropped it off at his house
and I see Jeff a lot, and Jeff said that
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he couldn't believe that I had the balls to do it.
And he was like, you know, you sat in my
living room and I gave you advice, and you know,
you never know what's going to happen. He's like, in
damn it if you didn't do it. So, after I
graduated high school, they were shooting Blue Collar Comedy Tour.
They were shooting their sketch comedy show at the Alliance
Theater in Atlanta. He gave me a writing assistant job
that summer, and I learned so much. I went to
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ole Miss. I was doing comedy. I was in like
an improv troupe. I left ole Miss moved directly to
New York because I always wanted to do SNL, and
I obviously like had a background and stand up, but
I also love characters and sketch. So I started training
at UCB, which is upright Citizen's Brigade, which is kind
of like the filter system into SNL. And I had
an agent at New York that said, you're super commercial,
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You've got a great look. You need to go to LA,
like you'll SNL will happen, but you've got to go
to LA. So I moved to LA, and I always
joke like, you have to leave. As soon as you
leave LA, that's when it calls you back. As soon
as I picked up my life and I had good
success in LA, but I was really grinding and like
figuring out who I was as an artist. And then
once I left LA, now they always call you. And
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that's why I don't live in La. I live in Atlanta.
As soon as you move out of LA, that's when
they need you. It's like the old saying as an actor,
you never have an audition and then you finally take
a vacation and now they need like sixty five self
tapes and a producer's call back, and you're like, I'm
in Barbados for the first time in three years. Fuck off.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
You know, I spending a little bit of time there
just randomly because I was in Texas forever. Then I
moved here.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah, and then I would never live there, but I
would go there for a month at a time, or
like on Idol, we'd go out there for a couple
weeks at a time, or whatever, whatever the case was.
It just felt so insincere all the time because I
didn't have a core group though, Like I didn't have
a core group of friends out there, so I was
only out there working and it was only working people.
That just felt so instance like all the time. It
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felt like everybody was fake, and that.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Is very much so the case. But I feel like
I was there at a great time. I'm in my like,
you know, early mid twenties, I was hustling, grinding, working
every job you can imagine, and so.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
I real jobs, real job got it.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Oh yeah, Like I worked the front desk at this
boogie gym in West Hollywood called Soul Psychic.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Then you had real people around.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
You around me. Yeah, But I was always smart because
I always put myself and even though I was making
twelve dollars and twenty five cents an hour at Soul Cycle.
I knew that every important producer, other comedians, all these
people would come in. Whitney Cummings would come in and
take class, and I would like get her off the
wait list, like Anna GASTI are all my favorite comedians.
And I would drop a business card into Whitney Cummings
(15:22):
bag every weekend. She never saw them. We're friends. Now
I've done her podcast. I was like, Whitney, you probably
have in the bottom of some old Soul Cycle bags
like fifty of my business cards begging you for a job.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I just was smart in how I positioned myself. And
the wild thing was in New York, I worked like
these incredible restaurant jobs make great money, and then I
would do comedy on my night's off. And then I
moved to LA and because it wasn't a porn star,
I could not get a job at a bar. They
were like, unless you were a model, there's no way
you could get a job. So then I was like,
all right, I really got to hustle and really figure
this out.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Then what was the point when you're in LA where
you're like I got to get out of here, Like
what was going on.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Well, the only thing is, honestly, my dad passed ruptly
and suddenly, so I didn't want to leave Ballet my mom.
My dad died very quickly, in like seven days, and
so it was kind of like this whole shock, and
I had such a great relationship with my dad and
my family, so I thought I was just going to
move back to Atlanta, very temporarily, maybe for a couple months,
helped my family figure out the new normal. It's like,
grieve and put the pieces back together. And then I
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got back and I felt kind of trapped, and you know,
and then I was like, this is this grieving process
is going to take a lot longer than I expected.
But it was a beautiful blessing in the sense that
I don't want to say, like, oh, you know, a
full circle, look at this. I've had this success because
I went through this tragic thing. I don't want to
say that, but I do think I had a richer
perspective on life and I was grieving. I mean, it's
(16:43):
kind of unhinge. I would take like a x Anex
and drink glass of white WI then like, let me
talk on Instagram stories, and that's what I did. I
use Instagram stories when they first came out as my
fifteen second moment to like pop out one liners and
jokes and it took off. So that's where I really
like honed, right, and then I just lived my life
and honestly, my audience grieved with me in this wild way,
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and I think my comedy just became so much richer
because I had such a more pointed point of view
and i'd like really been through something raw, and it
exposed me and my comedy in a totally different way,
if that made any sense.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, you think that experience is I hate use the
word launch. You think that launched you though, to a
lot of people in their understanding or appreciation of you.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Yeah, for sure. And it just made you know, it
humanizings in a way. And I think so many people
reach out to me and they're like, I'm going through loss,
I'm going through this, and oh for sure, it definitely
opened me up. But also using social media as that,
using that specific tool, I really honed that honed that
skill of that little fifteen second Instagram story. It's like
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all these kids that are blown up on TikTok. I
was the and then I did put all my characters
on Instagram and that's how it just like took off.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I'm friends with Dena Hayes.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I love Dnay.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
She's the best, the best, right, the best because she's fearless.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah, and I often look back at how naive I
was a lot of times, and I'm very lucky I
was that naive because if you actually knew what was
about to happen, maybe you wouldn't pursue it.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Right, Yeah, that's terrifying.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
So but I love Tonay and to watch her do
a version of that, I think a lot inspired by
you as well. I think she she'd often say that too,
but you know, she just kind of lays all of
her characters.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah, every all of her jokes.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah, do you find there are there's like a different
I hate say generation because you're similar ages. But yeah,
but they just did a little after you that that
saw you do that, and it kind of motivated them
to do that same thing.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I mean, listen today, is one of my favorite people
on the planet, and if she gives me any credit,
I'm so honored that she does so. But these they're
knocking it out of the park. But for sure, I
think and I miss that, like the wild thing is
when you start having success, like I always started in
stand up, right, So for me, it's tough because the
characters bring me so much joy and it's so freeing
and I love being that insane and ridiculous and goofy
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and silly. But then it's like I did the characters
to get the stand up portion, and now I want
to go back to the characters. So you know, when
I have a new audience, they know me from stand up,
but the ogs know me that that's how I started, right,
So I mean, I'm going to do this show for
Netflix as a joke, and I was like, I can
either do my hour that I'm going to shoot two
weeks after this comedy festival, or I'm going to go
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back and do a character show and put on a
ball cap and get weird and do what I want
to do. Like I'm ready to tap into that avant
garde performance art because that's what brings me a lot
of joy. You know, anybody can go see my stand up.
Come on tour Heather atour dot com.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
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Speaker 3 (19:49):
After you record your hour. Yeah, when you start over,
completely start over.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
And I always record my hour at the end of
my tour. Some people like to do in the middle,
but I it is such weird feeling because you shoot
the hour and then you walk off stage and you're like, oh,
that was so much fun with a relief, and then
you're like, oh shit, I got to start from scratch again.
It is the weirdest mental game with yourself.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Will you do smaller shows and practice material or we
just launch another tour and just no.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I will definitely do go and club it out and
I will go live my life this summer. I will
have a full blown experience and then I'll work the
clubs you know, in the fall, and then do another tour.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Do you ever pop in and never not tell people
you're coming?
Speaker 1 (20:33):
No? Not really, I mean no, I'll let them know.
But yeah, I'll pop in and do shows here and
there and just kind of feel it out. But I
also too the way my story runs because I'm an
old theater kid and I probably said this on too
many podcasts, but I like to have an idea of
a full show. I will lock myself in my basement
in my office for two weeks and just beautiful. Mind
(20:56):
it out, you know what I mean? It will look
like the scene from Homeland with Kirie Mathison and all
the things connecting. I like to have a full story.
And then obviously I write on the road and figure
things out. But I am going out with an hour.
I will figure that out. I will work out chunks
and clothes, but I am when you were coming to that.
I really like to have it all. It's a feeling.
I want you to feel a bunch of different emotions
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at my shows from the moment that you walk in.
That playlist is going to set the exact tone and
mood the video, like every element, it's a full production.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
You did a cruise last year, you're do any of
this year. I've never been on my cruise before. We
did one too.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
It's pretty wild.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
You're contained, You're contained, and you're you're just vulnerable.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, vulnerable is the best way to describe it.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
And that's not a negative thing. It's both.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
It's both, but you're it's contained and vulnerable. And what
did you think about that experience?
Speaker 4 (21:45):
I had the best four days of my life.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
It was four days.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
It was four days or four nights, five days, right, okay.
It was unreal and I was in a sorority, so
I knew. I felt like this was going to be
one giant chapter meeting. I was pumped. Well, first of all,
it's surreal because I'm on I'm in this like insane
suite that overlooks the lido deck. People cannot see in,
but I can see out. So every morning at six am,
the entire production staff would stand out on the deck.
(22:10):
They would raise flags on the side of the ship
that have my face on it. And I was standing
in the window with my hands behind my back, and
my husband walks by and goes, okay, Kim Jong Un,
I doubt like, you look insane. I was like, here,
I am looking over my hermit kingdom. It was wild.
But then the experience on the ship was so much fun.
(22:32):
I basically say, it's like adult spring break meets a
chapter meeting meets girls gone Wild and the best way,
it was just the best four days of wholesome, non
judgmental We are all have the same mind, same likeness,
and we just want to have a good time. It was.
It was thrilling. I loved it, and that's why when
it was such a success and They're like, do you
(22:52):
want to do another one? I was like, let's go.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
How did you feel?
Speaker 3 (22:56):
I get really see sick in motion sick. I scroll
on my phone, I get sick if I'm walking. It's
it's terrible.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Are you like constantly on a drip of dramma meetings
over it?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
It doesn't work, really doesn't work. And I had a
really bad experience at a Sean nat Gio for a
while and yeah, we spent time on the water and
I threw it the whole time and so I had
to get up in between throw ups to shoot and
so my all, my it was just miserable trauma from it,
big time. And so I was like, I don't know
if this is gonna work. But they really wanted to
do it, and I agreed. But I said, hey, I'm
(23:28):
gonna come on. I'm gonna do three nights of the
seven Sweet seven night cruise.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Oh wow, I know.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah, But also but I have such insecuritybout people even coming,
So I thought, this is an expensive ticket.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Yeah, we would we all do, right?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
So I was I think mostly I was really worried
about that, and I used the motion sickness as an
excuse for so long because I'm like, I'm seasick, right,
I'm really I just to think people would buy tickets
to come on a cruise right with me and no
us And so I got a little emotion sick. I'm
in a musical comedy do We played a couple of
shows that night and it was good.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
But my wife was nine months pregnant at the time.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
And our doctor was like, you really should not go
on the cruise, right, But it was these people. I
paid three thousand.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Dollars to be going on the cruise.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Listen, this is showbiz baby.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Okay, she can be crowning, but you know what you're doing, lights,
camera action, we're doing the bits off the cruise.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
So went on the cruise for the first part of
the cruise.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Had to leave a little early because my wife and
the doctor was like, hey, if you're going to go,
you can't be trapped at sea at any time.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Like, if you're gonna be able.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
To get to a port each day, you're all good. Right,
So did that didn't get that sick. I liked that
everybody kind of got to know each other. Yeah, there's
that initial like what's I'd never buen on a boat
that big either.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
That to me was wild to see a boat with elevators.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
See I grew up cruising. Let me tell you something
right now, your girl thrives.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Oh shit, I never mind.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
We were like the kids at the Captain's table. I
had the Shirley Temple curls. I'm drinking a Shirley Temple.
I'm in like my my debutante dress, and I, you know,
hanging out.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
With Mickey and Minnie. I thrived.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Do you know mean Disney cruises I did as a kid.
I mean, I just I love every aspect of it
and i' love that you're trapped. People who know me
know that I like to trap people. Like at my wedding,
the biggest compliment was not about the flowers, the food.
The biggest compliment was bringing people from all aspects timelines
of my life. And they were like, I loved your
friends from LA I loved your old miss friends, and
(25:15):
now everyone's still friends. I get a sick high off
of like we're all having fun together? Is everyone having fun?
Like I could be miserable, but I'm like, are you
having so much fun? It's the sickness. I don't know
what it is. Somebody diagnosed me online please, But I
love bringing a sense of community.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
I was afraid to commit to a second one. As
soon as it's sold out. There were like, let's do
a second one, but I haven't been on the first
one yet. Yeah, and so I was like, I can't
do it. I can't commit to a second one. I
don't know how I'm gonna feel. And then two, I
don't know if I'm gonna like it. And it was great,
So we committed to a second one for next year
as well.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Great you should.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
I'd never been, but i'd never seen a boat with
an elevator. All I saw was.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Fot bottoms, five bottoms and trollo motors where I grew up.
So that was that was wild to actually get on,
like if it's a freaking airport, it's like a massive
airport to get on the boat.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
And then you're on the boat and you're like, Okay.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
When it leaves doct you're like, well we're doing this,
we're in international waters, we're out here.
Speaker 6 (26:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
It was pretty. It was much cooler than I thought
it was going to be.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
I didn't get a sick as I thought I was
going to, and I liked the experience because I thought
it would be weird around our being trapped.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
I don't like being trapped. I'm a bit control guy.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Okay, and I see that, and I like that, but
I respect that because I am not a control gal.
I need more control of my life. I have no boundaries.
I'm like, what is your name? Okay, Carl, come on over.
I'm gonna make you a grilled cheese. Tell me your
family drama, and then we'll end up exchanging social Security numbers.
Like I need to have boundaries in my life.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
So I love that you're a control person.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
I will say it was so funny, I now after
I mean, we learned so much on the first cruise.
But when I say, like, it was actually so much fun,
if I feel this anxiety of how do we top
the next one? And Dene's coming on the next cruise
and we have such a fun lineup and we're going
to continue to add more talent, but I literally am like,
that was so much fun. And I got off the
ship and I did not even know what an adrenaline.
(26:57):
I mean just crash though afterwards, because and I also
learned how to maintain my energy. But every night I
would be dancing into club with everybody shout out to
DJ John Stamps. I literally told our DJ said, I
want you to play to early two thousands rap and
we are going to beat from the windows to the walls.
I want to be grabbing my ankles, busting down, thought Tiana.
(27:18):
And when I just saw the unbridled joy on everyone's face,
just letting their hair down at three am in open waters,
just having a blast, that was the highlight of the ship.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
But then every night I would sit.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
I never got to any of the restaurants because you know,
you're working, you're running around. I didn't sleep for five
days and I would sit. And my manager found me
one night in my room in between shows and I'm
just eating a tea bone steak by myself, and she's like,
are you okay. I was just in silence in the
dark eating steak. I was like, I just have to
recalibrate for a minute. And so I only lived off
steak on the ship because I would have like a
(27:53):
twenty minute window to like scarf something down.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
I'm like pure protein. I just see protein.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
So my butler in this ship was like, she's had
a lot of stakes, like we're worried about her.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
She hasn't shit in four days.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Did you ever watch the show on Netflix about the
woman that was on the cruise?
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Did I the one who went missing?
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
So actually I said the next cruise, we should just
go to that port and cure us how and we
will find them. If I have two thousand women on
a ship, you don't think we could find her in
thirty five minutes.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
You just release all at once, release the hound, Yeah, truly.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Release the hounds are all running around, and like Lily Pulitzer,
they would find her. I was furious by that documentary me.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Too, And when I was on the cruise, I had
perfectly time to watch it. I don't know, two weeks
before and one of the cruise, like I'm more on Yeah, yeah,
I shouldn't have watched it. It's like, yeah, you know,
watching airplane crash news before you get on the flight,
right And I watched her right before, and then I
found myself like looking to see someone I couldn't have
fallen over my boat, like there was nowhere to fall
into because there were like life boats around the side.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
What do you think happened to her?
Speaker 4 (28:57):
I think she was trafficked.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
I think she got off the island, whether she was
drugged or she was kind of had a wild night
and ended up leaving with that guy. And I think
she's still alive. I think she's somewhere out there. Okay,
the part of the documentary, and I haven't seen it in
a minute, so correct me if I'm wrong. The part
of the documentary were somebody flags that like the dad
found a essentially, you know, an ad for her online. Yeah,
(29:21):
and nobody tried to order her. She was like down
in Venezuela.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
I would have been like, hello, order, yes, how much
money one hundred thousand dollars send her my way? Can't
wait to be a pervert. And then you're like, she's ohned.
We got I mean what yeah, yeah, say I was here.
Look I got goosebumps. Right now. I'm so angry about
that documentary.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
I just don't trust that documentaries are really giving me
the three sixty of the reality of what they found.
That they're giving us what they found, but they're adding
or taking a little away for the sake of the
entertainment of us, right taking in the story. Because there
was also the part during the Christmas when whomever it
would always come to her website Christmas and Thanksgiving. Yes,
And it was like, can you not track back, like
(29:59):
we have the abilit to track everything.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
They're listening to this to our phone right now.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
They're monitoring, you know, whatever governorate. They're making sure you
and I are saying straight stuff right now. Yeah, we
can't figure out who where that's coming from, who's logging
onto that site?
Speaker 1 (30:13):
First of all, And I would have never left the
island if that was my kid. My ass would be
in curious. How I would be a resident. I would
run for president, I'd be the mayor. I would run
the whole damn country after that. And I thought about
that when I saw that, I was like, my dad
would have never left that island. It wouldn't have happened.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Now.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
I know you you know, we don't know all the details,
but I was just like, and I'm not a parent,
but I could only imagine if my kid was missing,
and I know she was what twenty one, No, I
wouldn't be I'd be there.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
I'd be running the damn country.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
It's a great point though, by just ordering the kid.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Yeah, why didn't you order it? Order the damn kid?
Speaker 1 (30:49):
And at that point she was like thirty it looked
like her, and then they had like that FBI forensic
gal who was like, yeah, the tattoos match up. You know, shit,
the tattoos match up.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Yeah, And it's not a like they did that kind
of evaluation of it as well, like there's been no
heavy manipulation.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Of the picture. Yeah, that's a crazy one. So you
don't have kids, don't have kids.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I was asking my wife some questions because I had
listened sporadically to the podcast.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
That's where I've consumed most of you. It's a weird
thing to say, but I've consumed most of it.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
I like that, honestly, kind of sexy.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Okay, I'll take it.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
She said that you were talking about and I may
mess this up, so always forgive me. You were talking
about possibly IVF, but you were talking about how how
you were doing it and you were doing it wrong,
and someone messaged you and said, hey, you're not doing
this correctly.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah. So I did IVF wrong twice in a row.
During the pandemic. I was home off tour and I said, okay,
I'm going to get proactive about my fertility. I went
in thought it was going to be a quick in
and out. I'm going to get a couple embryos, easy,
breezy and really, you know, I have control of my life.
I get in there and my doctor's like, uh, you
should have done this ten years ago. So I had
(31:55):
to get really aggressive with trying to get some eggs.
I did two rounds of it. You're doing what two
weeks of shots, you know, five shots a day. The
first round we couldn't get any eggs, right, Like, I
had nothing developed enough to retrieve an egg. And then
I'm talking about it on the podcast because that's also
like my weekly therapy is just trauma dumping on the podcast.
(32:15):
And then I went for another round and they were like,
you're completely mixing the medicine wrong.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
So I would prey to just nurses on the internet.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah, dms who are like, hey, you're not doing this right,
cause I would pre batch it. So you have to
mix all these you know, medicines together. First of all,
I'm not a chemist. It's insane to me that they
send home me, a civilian of the world, just to
go home and mix all these drugs and then inject myself. Unreal.
Now I know that there's like concierge nurse services where
they can come over and like make sure you do
it right. I went to Ole Miss like okay, And
(32:47):
so I was pre batching the medicine and then putting
it in the biles and putting it on a tray
in my uh, in my fridge in the garage, like oh,
it's fine. They're like, no, you have to mix the medicine.
In that moment, you know, I just I threw thousands
of dollars to the drink because I didn't read the
directions right. So kids read the directions thoroughly, but no,
it was very complicated. And also my body was just
(33:09):
like you know what, howther we decide we're going to
give you some more material, so we're just gonna have
you struggle a bit. And then I finally did a
Hail Mary third round and we got one embryo and
it's wild now with the technology. So I know, I
have a daughter on ice.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Like that's why they know the gender.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
They know the gender. Uh huh, I have a daughter
on ice. So I'll probably do another round this fall
to try and get some more. But it's a gnarly
and of course I wanted to share that experience. I
get asked a lot like what made you share this?
I'm like, cause I know that my audience, that's eighty
percent women. How many of them are also going through
this experience? How many of them were like what in
(33:44):
the hell am I doing right now? And no one
talks about it. And then you go to the fertility clinic.
You're sitting on couches, you know, four couches this size.
Everyone's in there doing the same blood draw confused, bloated,
pissed off, angry, unwell. And then the men will always
come in and like drop off their like semen sample,
and they kind of come in sheepishly and they're like, hey,
(34:05):
you know, it's like walk away. We don't care, Bruce,
get out of here, just leave us. We're all pissed
off because we're on hormones. You know, it was a
semen sample.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Things embarrassing though, So.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Inside I had to do that.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
You had to do that, well, I am not twenty five.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Yeah, and so before my wife and I were like, hey,
we're going to have a baby, I was like I
need to get tested, yeah, and so I proactively went up.
That's a weird thing to do because everybody knows what
you're doing.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Everybody knows what's like.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
They know what the cooler we know, baby, well, no,
they even know once you go in there, like what's like.
They know behind that door there's no X ray vision,
but they know what's happening behind you.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
They know you're sitting on that awkward leather couch with
your just your magazines. If you will, you know, it's
crazy and this is not bringing a hip of violation
because we don't know who did this. I had a
nurse DM me. She said that in her clinic they
have a problem with older men. They will come in
and they instead of giving a semen sample. It's like
(34:59):
an older guid and he's on his third marriage to
a younger woman and instead of giving their proper sample
in a cup, they will spit in the cup instead,
because you know, they want to pregnant. They don't want
her to get pregnant. They don't want to have kids.
They don't have the balls to be like, hey, Trish,
don't want to have another kid with you. So they
say they see this a lot that these old and
then they just have to say, oh, it's an inconclusive
(35:20):
you know specimen. We can't we can't read it. And
they'll just do it over and over again. And then
they've been like, have the balls to tell your wife
you don't have kids?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
And they probably all know what's going on, and they
all look at each other.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Like, yeah, inconclusive.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Inconclusive, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
That's crazy. So if you're a young gal out there
and you're married to an old man and you're getting inconclusive,
sit him down, take him for all of his money
and he's not giving you a kid.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Yeah, well I got I didn't get inclusive. I got
Lebron on mine. Yeah it's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Hell yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
They came out and they were like, which one of you?
Speaker 4 (35:52):
Yep, that's right.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
I thought for sure it was going to be I
could blame my husband for this, but he also was
a Lebron. But now now he's addicted to zens. He's
fully addicted to zens, and if we're gonna do another round,
I keep getting these ads like, you know, get off
nicotine for a while. And my husband, you know, listens
to like a biohacking thing where it's like, oh, you
can have forty five zens in your upper lip a day,
but because it's pure nicotine, you're gonna be fine. And
(36:15):
I'm like, oh, are you zened out right? Now?
Speaker 4 (36:17):
You get reroll zippy around the house. So I'm gonna have.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
To deal with that monster this summer, being like get
off the zen's.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
There are people like even Tucker Carlson. His clips will
come up talking about nicotine. Yeah, and he's going, Nicotine's great,
it's got a bad rap. Yes, yeah, Big Pharma is
trying to cancel nicotine.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
I'm I don't know who to believe about what now.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
I don't either, And the fact is that I see
some Tucker Carlson clips now and I'm like, he has
a point. I'm so confused.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
I think we're all very.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Confusedly comes up and I'm like, I agree, what the crap?
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Let me tell you something. My girlfriend said me a
clip of hers the other day, and I was like,
I'm gonna have to dial into this twelve part series
of what's happening? I mean, really, truly, we are living
the up down, up is down, left is right. I
don't know what's happening, but yes, And then I've also
heard of some women that will do the nicotine patches
and it's supposed to be great for your hormones. So
I'm willing to be a guinea pig and try anything
(37:13):
for the greater good. But my husband seems to say
that the yeah, the zen pouches are really elevating his health,
and I'm like, I don't think that's the case.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
How do you feel about bringing the kid into the world.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
That's a great question.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
I just had a baby, and I struggle not with
having a baby, but with like, what is happening. But
then I think to myself, Okay, prohibition happens. Yeah, And
these parents are like, we can't believe kid, our kids
are going to be around on alcohols here because they
went through prohibition right and with us now and they're
(37:47):
like twelve year olds who won't think weed's weird when
they get older because it's legal in a lot of places.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
But and this is a weird thought.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
But I'm like, well, my daughter, who was just born
weeks ago, think that aliens are normal?
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Will they be real?
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Yeah? Her buddies, well yeah, because it kind of hopes
like that's happening now, Like what will she have the internet?
Speaker 2 (38:05):
For example, when we were young, like we got to
see no internet and internet, you know, if you're born
in like the eight I was born in the eighties. Eighties, Yeah,
we got to not have internet and have internet, so
we got that. We're and so kids now don't know
not having the internet. Yeah, but that also brought a
lot of bad I just I just struggle with like
what she's going to.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Struggle with it all the time, and you know, I
really do. I'm like, do I need to bring another
person into this world?
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Now?
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Does the world need another person?
Speaker 6 (38:31):
Then?
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (38:32):
But then I think, like I'm fun so yes, like
maybe I maybe my offspring is the one who can
change the world. Probably not. Yeah, it is a gnarly feeling.
And I agree that we did grow up in the
best time because I mean, there was nothing better than
dial up internet, right that cord went into the back
of the phone jack and then went into the back
of the computer, and then the phone line was tied up,
(38:53):
so like if God forbid there was a family emergency,
no one knew Grandma died because you were like in
chat room, just tinkering away. Those were the golden years.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Okay, chat rooms were awesome.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Chatrooms were the best. Chat rooms were the absolute best.
So I agree, and I mean I'm even trying to
like understand AI and do all this and really stay up,
and even my brain feels rattled. I think I am
getting dumber, I will say, like the brain is completely fried.
So I'm trying to figure out how to have a
sense of like I don't want computers to run my life,
(39:24):
but like how do I not use Google? Like how
do I actually have my syneps fire enough so that
I can make decisions on my own without asking my phone.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
I feel like my brain rot comes from slowly replacing
reading with TikTok, Like, yes, just slowly, slowly, And I'm
trying to, you know, be purposeful with reading books because
it's so easy not to because there's so much content everywhere,
and I find myself doing the same going. I'm probably
day by day slowly just on TikTok more, which is
not good. Obviously it's not good for our brains.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Oh the rot. I mean, I get to the point
where it's like the little like night owl pops up
and it's like you've been scrolling for three and a
half hours.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
You're gonna die soon? Please?
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Are you okay? Are you okay?
Speaker 4 (40:05):
I say, your Bible, bitch, like figure it.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Out, like when China's asking you through TikTok if you're okay, Yeah,
something is wrong because I do the same thing.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
That message comes on.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
It's like a young woman, Hey, yeah, maybe she'd get
off TikTok.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Maybe she get off TikTok.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
Maybe you should like let your brain simmer for a
little bit.
Speaker 6 (40:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
And isn't it in China that they don't allow.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
You can't get on it.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
You can't get on it. It's only learning to take education
until like twelve years old. Smart, but they give it
to us. That's full McDonald's.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
I thought about downloading one of the apps, and I
don't know if they're kind of bs, but it will like
teach you history lessons instead, so you still get the
addiction of like scrolling, but you're learning about, like I
don't know, you know, a.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Couple of world wars. That's what I need to do.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
I don't know if that addiction would feel the same.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
But then I see like this, there's a guy right
now who ordered eggs off Facebook marketplace and he and
he's in a fight with this woman, and I'm like,
I need to know about the eggs from Facebook marketplace.
Like I am dialed in to random people's drama and
I it brings me so much joy in my life.
And then I'll sit down at dinner with people who
are not on TikTok and they have no idea what
I'm talking about.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
I'm like, you guys are losers. Get with the program.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
There was a double edged.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Sword the story of the Charlie Sheen documentary where he
was maybe hardcore on crack and whatever the drug was,
and they started slowly weakening it.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
That's what I need to happen.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
I made like some of the fifteen second tiktoks to
be history lessons, like out of my control. I just
need to see this is Thomas Jefferson, even if I
just need people to replace it slowly, because I get
the same thing.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
I need to know what the Alex Cooper Alex Earl
drama is, and then I also need to know about
what was Thomas Jefferson about.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
I respect that.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
And then you can hit me with Brianna Chicken Fry,
but I need Thomas Jefferson in the middle of.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
I need to know about the Egyptian Times.
Speaker 6 (41:48):
Same The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is
the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Do you ever pull videos? Do you ever put one
on and then go like that? Either didn't work or
I don't like what I said and take it down.
Speaker 4 (42:10):
No, I definitely think they're listen.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
I have a team now that helps me like figure
out the algorithm, and even then I haven't figured it out.
Speaker 4 (42:16):
I do think there are days where I'm like, what
is happening?
Speaker 1 (42:19):
But no, I don't really pull I am so I
know that I can't compete with these kids who have
TikTok down to a fucking science.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
So I'm just like, let it rip.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Just let it rip.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
And the videos that are not produced that.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Is it's literally me picking up my phone and be like,
this is what I feel in this exact moment are
always the ones that go viral. So I hate getting
these like hype reels about like look at how glamorous
tourists look, at how crazy it is. We do it
because we sell tickets, but in the reality people want
to hear me bitch about whatever you know, feud I'm
having at that exact moment with my husband.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Do you still get nervous about ticket sales?
Speaker 1 (42:52):
I mean, for sure, everybody, right, I mean, I've been
very blessed that it's been successful, but yeah, there are
days and I'm I'm still even going into newer markets
where I mean, I feel like I've hit every market,
but there's still days where I'm like, hey, i've never
played Juno, let's go, you know, and you don't know
what's going to happen. But it's also so competitive. I'm
so honored that people come to my shows and have
(43:14):
a good time, that I have repeat customers. I'm like,
that's what it's about. And yes, if new people come along, fantastic,
but I'm doing it for the people who've been there
since the beginning.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Are there any comedians now that you look at and
have like a professional healthy jealousy of because they're so good?
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Oh? Yeah, well, you know, I think it's just incredible
to see like what Leanne's done, and you know, I
have like eight shows and development and then they never
get picked up. So I would like to Being on
the road is the most magical thing, and stand up
is my one true love, but I would love to
be acting more so. Anybody who's been able to have
their own show or to translate that to television, that's.
Speaker 4 (43:49):
Really my first love. So I would love to have that.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
Yeah, like that's why Whitney's cool. Yeah, Well she's also
she's very funny.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
She's very funny.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
She also writes for other people very funny, and she'll
rites for herself very funny. Like she kind of nails
all of those. When you say you have all these
shows in development, are you the center of all them?
Speaker 1 (44:07):
I am the center of all them. But this show
that I have at Hulu right now is my real
joy because I'm finally playing somebody other than myself. And
again it taps, and this is the one. Please, dear God,
let this go, let this go to get picked up.
This is the one where I'm like, it's tapping into
the like how I started, where yes, stand up will
always be about me, but playing a gnarly role where
(44:29):
I'm telling somebody else's story that I've of course written
and created is really what I want to do. You know,
I got into comedy because I grew up on Joan
Rivers and if I could emulate her career, I mean,
I'm obsessed with her. I got to meet her. She
gave me your blessing in comedy. I feel very grateful
for that. But like, my dream is to eventually be
on QVC one day, hawking pajminas and talking to women
(44:51):
in the middle of the night while I'm smoking cigarette
and drinking white wine, being like, honey, tell me you
problems you need for forty nine ninety nine. You can
have two calf t hands that'll make can you feel fantastic?
Like that's the goal, right to just have a product,
sell it, and then I'll live in the Dirks and
Caicos or in Tuscany and you'll never have to hear
my annoying voice ever again.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
The fact that she would save and organize all of
her jokes, Yeah, it was pretty amazing, pretty amazing, how
attention to detail she was. Yeah, Like, and then you
know Jean Smart and Hacks is loosely roughly based on
that situation.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
And you said you get to meet her.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
I got to meet her, So I would go.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
I worked at a restaurant on forty third between eighth
and ninth, and there was a club right across from it,
and when i'd get off my shift, I'd go see
Joan and she would have these giant note cards on stage.
I mean, she was in her eighties, had these giant
note cards on stage and she's ripping through jokes. And
I would always like hang outside the back door and
she would come out and I'm beg Miss Rivers, I
(45:48):
love you.
Speaker 4 (45:48):
I have a lot of photos with her.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
And she was so kind. So I moved to La.
I'm in. I'm sitting in out at this bar by
myself that my buddy was bargaining at and I hear her.
I hear her walk in the door. She and she
was the one who told me. She said you need
go to LA. You've got a commercial look. So she
sits in a booth and I'm like, oh my god,
Miss Rivers is here. So I go up to the
booth and her assistant in me is like, do you
want a photo. I was like, no, no, no, I've got
a photo with Joan. I said, John, I want you
(46:11):
to know I followed your lead. You told me to
come to LA. I'm here and thank you so much
for giving me that advice. And I'm I'm three days in,
but I hopefully if this works out. She's so kind.
I go and sit back at the bar. She wraps
up her dinner. She comes up and she's like, I
have a good feeling about you. She said, you have hutzpah.
You followed your gut. You're gonna make it, don't worry
you got this. So when she passed away, I was
(46:34):
working at Soul Cycle and was Hollywood. I came out.
I had taken a class, so I'd come out of
the spin glass. The entire staff looks like like ill,
They're white as a ghost, and I'm like, what's going on.
I thought they were about to tell me my entire
family had died. They were like, you need to sit down.
Jones passed, I mean, and I was inconsolable. And I
knew her very very loosely right, just as a fan,
(46:56):
and I mean, people sent flowers to my apartment as
if she died.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
When she died, I was devastated.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
And so years later, after she had passed, they had
a big auction at Christie's and I didn't have any
money this one. I was like first starting out, and
all I wanted were these giant Tiffany silver dog bowls
with her dog's name on him. I was like, this
is so cool. Didn't have any money, didn't get them,
And then they just did another auction last year for
(47:23):
her stuff. And I'm on a flight on my way
to my show in Tampa and my I'm like, honey,
you got to get in there. Like, I can't do
this on the plane. And my husband won for me
one of her tour jackets.
Speaker 5 (47:33):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
And it's the first thing going in my new house.
It's gorgeous. It's like champagne color with feathers, and I'm
going to put it in a giant acrylic box. And
I want you to walk in my home and be like,
this is the house that Joan built.
Speaker 4 (47:44):
And I'm friends with Melissa.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
Now her daughter, and she brings me on her podcast
and it is so full circle. Like when I started
doing the e red Carpets, it was because you know,
Joan did it. It's just I love her so much
and she was really my idol in comedy.
Speaker 3 (47:59):
Who else you know?
Speaker 1 (48:02):
I go back. I loved a Richard Pryor. I love
a Carlin. I liked anybody who said the thing, who
did not hold back and who said it. And I
think if Carlin was around right now, my god, you
go back and watch this stuff. It is so poignant.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
I watched I literally watched George Colin, I do Advertiser
Allla by last Ar.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Everything that he's saying back then twenty thirty years ago
is happening right now.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Yeah, And the story of his special that he recorded
right before nine to eleven.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
Yeah, crazy, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
I was a massive George Carland fan. I never got
to see him and do a live show, and I
bought tickets to see a show and he was coming
to Austin. I lived in Austin at the time, and
he was playing in the Paramount, which is like my
favorite theater, and he died like a week before I
got to go watch him. But I was a massive
fan then, and to watch his stuff now it resonates
so hard right now, I don't think I fully got it,
or maybe times weren't.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
Is crazy for me.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
Then I had a theater teacher at a very religious
school that I went to in Atlanta, and he would
always tell me, He's like, Heather, you loved Carlin, and
he like wasn't supposed to be pushing Carlin on me,
and was like, trust me, trust me, you'll like the
Doobie Brothers and you'll love George Carland. And so I
was like forty and listening to Carland like he just
I adored him.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
When I did my honors thesis in college at Present,
it was seventy pages and it was in front of
the faculty wow, And I did it on his the
seven words you can't say on TV radio, right, but
I did.
Speaker 3 (49:22):
I use that.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
But how the industry and the FC is changing, and
you can say some of these words now, but I
used his like I was such a I was so
inspired by George Carlin.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
I used that entire Well it's more than a joke,
but that monologue with which is one of the best.
Speaker 4 (49:38):
Yeah, and I love that.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
And you know, I hate now when people are like,
are you a clean comic or like, you know, don't
you love clean comics? That's great, that's their thing. But
my whole, my whole shtick is it's not even a stick.
I'm saying the things on stage that all of my
girlfriends are saying while they're playing majong, while they're in
their mommy and me group, while they're figuring it out.
So why would I filter myself on stage? If that's
(50:01):
if these are the real conversations that are people that
people are having.
Speaker 3 (50:04):
Do you feel that it hurts you in privates at all?
Or do you just clean up it when you.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
Do a private uh wait, we'll say that again, like
a private gig gig? Oh no, I mean I listen
I can clean up for corporate all day long. I mean,
those corporate gigs are fantastic. Send me to a convention
center somewhere in Boise and I will what are we
selling wind decks? I will do windex jokes all day.
I'm trying to buy a boat, you know. But no, no,
it doesn't hurt me. But it's it's funny too. Especially
(50:28):
being a female comedian, people will say, like, so you're
not a clean comic. I'm like no, And just because
I'm a woman, if that's always a question, I'm going
to say the things that all women are saying on stage,
like why would I Now, I can't say that Ford,
what are we doing here? We're adults. We're adults here,
you know.
Speaker 5 (50:47):
Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor,
and we're back on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
How do you know the show didn't go well?
Speaker 1 (51:04):
Yeah, you can feel it? Can I tell you? When
you know the show crushed? You could be out there.
Of course, your fans are gonna love your shit. When
I walk off stage.
Speaker 4 (51:12):
And a security guard it's like, damn, girl, let me
get your number.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
They're like, really love the shit. When I walk off
stage and I've either made one of the union guys
in a theater laugh really hard or a security guard.
I'm like, I crushed.
Speaker 3 (51:26):
I've seen every show and as also, they're doing a job.
Speaker 1 (51:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:29):
Yeah, they didn't come for that, they just come to
do their hours.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
Yeah. I was just in Red Bank, New Jersey, and
I love that theater. And these guys afterwards are like
I'm telling you right now, we filmed so many specials here.
That was the funniest night. I had so much fun.
Oh my god. You know, have you thought about doing TV?
You know, they think they've discovered you. I'm like, I
played this theater four times, like you really should think
about doing this full time. And I'm like, I had
a sold out show, serve two thousand people, but yes,
(51:54):
I will consider doing this full time. I had a
really good time and I'm like, thanks, mo, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (52:00):
What are you taking a break again?
Speaker 1 (52:01):
Uh this summer because I'm gonna shot my special at
the end of May in Knoxville and then you won't
see me for two months. You know. Of course I
have my podcast and were running around, but I travel
in the summer and I just I unplug. Why Knoxville
you know it's funny. I love shooting my specials in
the South. My first one was in Kentucky. My last
one was at the Fox Seat in Atlanta. And after
(52:22):
this whole Lane Kiffin debacle at ole Miss, I had
so many people reach out to me from Tennessee and
they were like, Heather, we went through the same thing
as you. We know your heartbroken by Lane Kiffin going
to LSU. Please come shoot your special here. And I
adore Knoxville. It's a great comedy crowd. And I said,
you know what, We're all in this together. We're all
(52:43):
creepy together. I'm to shoot it in Knoxville.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
Have you met Pete Golden yet, the new coach?
Speaker 1 (52:47):
So I'm his wife is my sority sister, and she's
a oh way, yeah, yeah, so you're in. I'm in.
But I haven't met him yet, but you're in. I'm in.
Speaker 3 (52:57):
So if you know the wife.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
I'm in, shout out. I tell my Delta gave his sisters. Yeah,
so I'm in. And I really truly adore ole Miss
And I ended up there on a total whim. That's
not where I wanted to go to school. And it
ended up being the best four years of my life.
I now own a home there that I've went out
for football games and Oxford is such a magical place
and it truly changed my life. And so I'm just
(53:21):
the biggest old miss fan.
Speaker 3 (53:22):
Do you hate cow Bells?
Speaker 1 (53:23):
I hate him? Gets obnoxious.
Speaker 3 (53:25):
Yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 1 (53:26):
The only time each every year cow Bell is in
the Will Ferrell SNL sketch. Okay, other than that, you're
out of your minds. And I even dated a guy
that went to who lived in Starkville and I never
once visited him.
Speaker 4 (53:36):
I said, if you want this relationship to work, you're
gonna have to come to Oxford. I'm not going down there.
Speaker 1 (53:41):
And I have plenty of friends that went to Mississippi State,
but I'm like, no, I'm not going there. Yeah, absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (53:46):
I really appreciate coming by. This has been awesome.
Speaker 1 (53:48):
Hey, I'm such a fan of yours and I really
appreciate it, and and I just you know, it's it's
such a refreshing, honest conversation. And congratulations on everything you're doing. Truly.
Speaker 3 (53:57):
Oh thanks, Yeah, I had a baby, that's all we're doing.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
Listen, that's huge.
Speaker 3 (54:01):
That's I mean, I'm saying that's all like, that's what it's.
It's a lot.
Speaker 1 (54:05):
It's a lot. It's a lot, and you know a.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
Great way, And I want to make sure that nobody's
confusing what I'm saying. Yeah, it's awesome, but it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (54:14):
It's a lot, and you're obviously a good dad and
a good partner, so you want to you're all all
hands on deck.
Speaker 4 (54:20):
And I think it's a lot. It doesn't matter who
it's happening to.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
It's a lot.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
I feel like I don't think I'm a good dad
or good partner, and hopefully that makes me a good partner.
Speaker 1 (54:28):
Oh wow, why do you think that you're not a
good dad or partner? Because and it does make you
a good partner because you actually care.
Speaker 3 (54:34):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
I'm so concerned about it, yea, that I don't know
if there's actual actually the ability to be a good
dad or good partner, because whatever it is, I don't
feel like I meet whatever standard that is. But then
I can go, well, maybe that's what makes me a
good partner because I continue to try to achieve a
higher standard.
Speaker 1 (54:49):
Yeah, yeah, I got goals and expectations for yourself.
Speaker 3 (54:52):
Spend a lot of time in therapy. I got two therapists.
Speaker 4 (54:54):
Listen, I've got a therapist.
Speaker 1 (54:55):
And she told me the other day, she was like, so,
when are you gonna start feeling your feet? I said, huh,
I said, Claire, what do you mean? She goes, when
are you gonna start getting like emotional and like crying?
I said, do you want me to cry? Because I
don't have time to cry. I literally told her that.
She's like, I can tell you're an impath and you
feel other people's feelings very deeply, Like I can read
a room. I can spot at the back of a
(55:15):
bar that's some some gals upset. I can feel it,
but I don't know how to feel mine because I'm like,
I don't have time to be upset. We got to
keep working. We got shit to do. Like, I'll get there,
I'll move on.
Speaker 3 (55:25):
Do you go to therapy regularly now, can you? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (55:28):
I mean it's all over you schedule. Yeah, I'm not
doing in person. You know my girls in Birmingham shout
out to Claire.
Speaker 2 (55:33):
Do not feel like somebody's gonna be like I won't
do therapy on zoom. I feel like people are watching me.
Speaker 1 (55:38):
You don't think they could have a hidden camera in
the little vase. They got that nice orchid on their desk.
Please there we Gordon, I'll trust no one. Here's my
thing though, too. I share so much of my life.
There's nothing that would come out in therapy that somebody
would be like, wow, bombshell.
Speaker 2 (55:54):
Like I probably already said it on my own podcast.
All right, we talked about it before you came in.
But Heather on right, Heather on tour dot com website.
And then the cruise absolutely not yet naps.
Speaker 4 (56:06):
Not cruise. It's Heather at sea dot com.
Speaker 1 (56:08):
And if you've never been on a cruise, I'm telling
you this is the perfect entry level to your cruise experience.
You'll have the time of your life. And honestly, I
just feel so insanely blessed and honored that people will
trust me, uh with their vacation experience and it is
It is just the most fun you'll ever have.
Speaker 2 (56:26):
I think any flags on my face on it, so
I need to put that into They never.
Speaker 1 (56:29):
Let them know. You want a full wrap of the
ship with your face and that is the most out
of body experience you walk on and you're like, who
the hell did one I didn't ask for it okay,
so I want everybody to know I'm not that vain,
but also too, it is really wild when you see
your face on a ship and you're like, what is happening?
Like people, I mean, I still get I'm still in
awe that people that this is my life and people
(56:50):
tune in, and I'm so grateful for that, but it
is crazy. I'm like, do you guys know that you
came to see me? Like I live with my mom,
Like everybody, calm down, you know. Heather, thank you, Hey,
thank you. This has been great.
Speaker 3 (57:02):
Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production
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