#607 - We’re Talking About Current Stuff! Ft. Hosts of God's Country

This week, Bobby is joined by songwriters and brothers Dan and Reid Isbell who host the God's Country Podcast. They are here to talk about Current Stuff! They dive into the current state of country music touring, the “Blue Dot” fever causing artists to cancel shows, and why management decisions often leave artists looking bad. They also talk about Instagram bots, a wild situation involving Luke Combs, a scary tornado scare on the road, and the biggest paydays they’ve had as songwriters.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Hey, guys, welcome to the episode. And before we get
into the current stuff, I want to bring in Dan
and Rita Isbelt, who have the God's Country Podcast, which
I'm a fan of. I'm mostly a fan of the
episode that you guys did with me. My favorite episode
the one you guys. I watch it every week.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
It was our least performing matter. All the views are
from me, so perfect before the hasn't here.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Uh so you guys check out the God's Country Podcast.
These guys here are very talented songwriters.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Did you guys ever try to do.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
The im hoping? I'm not insulting you guys, but but
almost I don't care, right because I like, I know
you guys. Did you guys try hard to the artist thing?

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Wait, this is a kind of funny story.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Take a second. So there was a plan. There was
a plan.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
So I had been in town and my buddy Jonathan Singleton,
we had this scheme.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
We were like, dude, my brother fured it out.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
We really great singer. We'll write all the songs, produce
all this stuff, and he can go do the road
stuff that we don't.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Want to do. He's miserable, he don't know who he is.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
His idea will just burn him out right, and.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
So he doesn't have an identity. Ye.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Similar We wrote a bunch of songs and I started
working with Scooter Caruso and really like building this and
built a five or six song EP that was like
kind of bulletproof, right. So we start mixing and mastering.
In the meantime, we booked some shows. We start playing
some shows. He's like, we be in the band. I'm like, ah,
I don't really want to do that, but maybe for
a few times, you know. So we go do this run,

(01:34):
we come back and then he calls and he's like, hey,
we got I got a couple of acoustic shows next week.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
You got to go. And I was like, dude, I'm
going to deer Camp with dad. Like where you talking about?
We kicked you off?

Speaker 3 (01:46):
You're started like. He was like, dude, what y'all cooking ribbies?
I was like, yeah, it's a week. It's the bow
open there, like we're going. I was like, I think
I just want to be a songwriter. He was like,
I'm canceling shows. If y'all think y'all going to Deer
Company without me, It's never happened.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
It end. That was the end of the artist's career. Yeah,
I mean like deer camping in red bys Man and dude,
I always was like I was. I was on the
fence of like being a being an artist, being a
songwriter and I and I and I moved to town
obviously with the plan to be an artist, but fell
in love with writing songs, especially when I was writing
with Jonathan and him at the Gate.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
And so when you came here, though, you thought it
was going to be artists, because that's probably what you knew.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, I mean all I knew how to do was sing. Oh.
He used to get those church ladies worked. I'd be
saying the same song two and three times. He always
the voice. I can only sing that, you know, I
get yeah, necessary kick us off. I can't only a

(02:46):
I probably shut that down to yeah, yeah, they're gonna
catch the met.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, you can speak it out.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah I can't el We'll see.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
We have we have full creative control on our podcast,
so we can do whatever we want.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
You still can't sing songs because you get sued.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Songs all the time. But no, it's kind of worse. Yeah,
like every episode of so.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Loud, we used to do that too. They shut us down.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Okay, maybe we just cut that part.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah, no, no, good for you guys. If you want
to hear songs sang illegally.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
God's Country podcast, it's covers. Does that matter even worse?

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Actually?

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, yeah, isn't there some blanket lessons out there that
covers that lead? Can we just get out of here?
Can we just start over?

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Well, what's funny about that story is that's kind of
what Brian Wilson did with the Beach Boys. He stayed
back and wrote and got everything ready and set the
band out, and so the Beach Boys will be traveling
all over touring. Way back in the day, Brian Wilson's like,
I don't want to go tour. I'll let them go
to concert. I'll take my cut, and then when they
come back, I'll hop in. But I've got everything ready
to go.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Kind of the gig, kind of the best gig truthfully.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
And then but there were no stakes involved in that story.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Well, yeah, there's probably songs are probably not great steaks
someone we're talking stuff.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
I love the idea, though, of creating something that can
go out and make money not having to do it
like musical to me too, like five or six years ago.
I probably told you guys a story, but uh me,
Nicole Gallian, who's a massive writer, and Ross Kopperman I
went and I said, hey, I have this idea for
a hologram artist that opens for like five five tours

(04:22):
at once. And I said, let's write songs. And so
we created this group called Neon People, and we went
and we wrote every day and recorded all these songs masterdom.
Nicole was singing it. We were manipulating the voice a
little bit. No idea was we can have somebody be
the baby opener on like three or four tours. And
there were great songs and very cheap.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
It was split everything that comes out, and so all.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
The streams, we all the money of the touring revenue.
And then Nicole ended up being a president of record
label and she had to like quit. She's like I
can't because I was.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Like integrity kind against it.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
What the heck it's up? It's up on.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
People was read as well, jumping off the fence to
be a songwriter artist. It was you guys, grow where
west right where Alabama, Missippi and Tennessee meet the county
above that's Harden County.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Where was town then Memphis, Savannah, Georgia, Tennessee.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Oh, but Florence is where we took our dates. You
know what I'm saying, and shout out red Law or
Cartt thirty minutes away.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
So then where would concerts come that was closest.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Well, it's interesting because we're kind of from a melting
pot of like a lot of different influences right there.
You had rockabillity from Jackson, Tennessee, blues from Memphis you
had to be swaggy type stuff from it came out
of Memphis, and also North miss South Mississippi, Delta blues
from South Misissippi. And then you had country music from Nashville.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
And then you had the swampers and the funk stuff
from Florence. So all of that kind of blended. And
our dad's a Baptist preacher that in the obviously Bible belt, there's.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
A ton of you know, Christian music going on there.
Ham's going on too, So you got that influence.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Could you guys have secular music?

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Though?

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Growing up we could watch TA in you'd have to
go you have to go upstairs and turn it down
if you watch t r L.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, you have to do. Until you didn't get to
go to real like big pop culture.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
I mean my first concert was Billy Joe Elton John and.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
It was awesome.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
How old were you.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
He too, dude, Our parents weren't like like I hear
stories now, especially talking to people like that's all they
did when they were little, is like their parents took
them on the road to go see Alabama or go
see you know, Grateful Dead or whoever it is. And
like our parents were never no, they liked music, they
liked music, but they just we just work. It's a
lot of working as expensive to take a bunch of
kids to go see shows. So like we had. We

(06:39):
saw a ton of like quartets come through the church though. Man,
like all those all those like traveling bands that we
come through and doing doing like the church stuff.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
We went to all those because they would all come
through our churchet. Yeah, like harmony, gospel quartets.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah, and you end up in music.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
I think our mom would.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
Have loved if we had been a gospel we'll singing yeah, yeah,
you know, like doing the thing.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
But it just for me.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
I loved the storytelling aspect of country music. And my
dad's a killer storyteller too. I've seen him hold court
at deer camps and churches and pavilions and parking lots
with random p McDonald's lines, just captivating these people with stories.
And I think that's what I always wanted to be that,
and so I kind of wrote poems and things like that,

(07:30):
and then I didn't want anybody to know because that
was seen as effeminate in my small town stuff.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
And so then I.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Realized, if I get girls, if I put those.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Words and stuff to music.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
So I learned how to play guitar, and from there
we already knew how to harmonize because of the church,
in the in the singing groups we were in, and
it just kind of I went ban ban Ban band,
had a big band in Mississippi state, started getting some
looks in Nashville. Didn't know it, but we were getting
the run up here and just ended up falling in
love with being a song right. I also hated the road.
I'm just not a road guy at all.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
In your hometown, you have pizza hut, hell, yeah, absolutely,
We were talking about it recently, how I don't see
any standalone pizza hights like we talked about in the build,
the building, the shape building.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah, yeah, like the pizza hut building.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
And you know the shape of pizza hut building you
see one because sometimes you see a dentist office and
a pizza hut building that used to be a pizza hut.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yeah, you can dress it up however you want to.
There were personal pants cooked in that, dude.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
What a great? What a great? Uh? What a great
marketing schemes to make your building one of a con.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, except what you want to sell.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
If your pizza hut though, I mean, did you guys
do book itt ever?

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yes, dude, no, he said he didn't do it.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
We did accelerated Reader, which.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Is kind of the same thing I remember it swapping
with when I was in book It.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
That's probably cause Pizza hu didn't want to pay the
give away the free pizzas anymore.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Then. I promise you if there was, if there was
a program where you got personal pants for free, I
would have been in that chain.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Bro, I'm still wearing those personal pants. I read like
a something No me too?

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Like in May one, it launched back at Pizza Hut
this year where they're doing book it again.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
And for me, can anybody do it? Can I do it?
If there was I'd I'd be reading Johnny Cash The
Life in the lyrics right now to get forty points
for two personal pants.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
It was such a big deal in my school, like socioeconomically,
we were a very poor school right in areas that
didn't have money. You could read and actually provide dinner.
It was a It was a culture changer for us.
And I love to read, but I could read two
books a week for sure, and that was not only

(09:38):
dinner for my sister and I. It was you can
tell me.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
You provided for your family by reading. I'm saying that
I'm not going to laugh at that.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
I know it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
I think I want to laugh, but a good, good way,
but also awesome.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
When I saw it was coming back, I was like, dang,
I don't think people understand for kids that didn't have anything.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
No, I wouldn't have never understood that.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
It's because I would. You could read a book and
a quiz on it back in the day, and then
you get your personal pan. That that what the cost
was though gas going into town because we didn't have
a pizza hut, so we had to go into Hot Springs. Yeah,
so you're driving, but two personal pan pizzas would be
because it was four pieces, three pieces for dinner, one
for breakfast the next day that that that.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Was two meals for each of us. Absolutely, dude, that's awesome.
I love never considered that. We've never our town never
like I've never We've never been in that position, you know,
with our with our family or anything like that. And honestly,
I really never saw that in our town in that way.
But that thinking about it that way is Man, that's awesome.
I don't remember you specifically talking about That's one. I mean,

(10:38):
that's the part of your foundation, is your your very
food driven if you don't have food.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
My favorite episode of the God's Country podcast, Yeah, one
of the worst episodes, but worst performing the most meaning most.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
That's what matters, right, especially in our industry.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Do you when you guys book guess? Something that I
deal with is like I can get a really good guess,
but if they're doing like nine things at once, it
doesn't do that well because what have.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
You made non things that one.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Let's say, I'll just pick an artist off my wall,
so I'm not picking anybody specifically, So I'm gonna say
John Mayer because John Mayer is on my favorite arts
of all time. If I have him in and we
do a great hour together, but he's also doing nine
other podcasts around the same time, like a media tour. Oh,
it's so watered down that even a great guest is

(11:23):
not gonna get the numbers that the great guests should get.
If the great guest is doing so many shows at.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Once, you mean like ours and yours, Well they're.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
On the same level. But I'm just saying, like, if they.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Was in which direction, which charts are we talking about?

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Ding? Do you guys ever see that, Like you have
somebody that you're like, man, this is gonna be awesome,
and the interview is fantastic, But they're doing so many
things at once that it possibly doesn't reflect in the numbers.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
We kind of have to say from the jump, hey man,
we're not really like your media training guys, like you
can be here as free in here as you want be.
I feel like that does that helps open something?

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yeah? But you can still see see some well see
some of them still they don't know how to. They don't.
It's just so ingrained in them and trained in them
that they go straight forward like it's the it's the
first thing they do is go toward media training. And
I get that because like you see that, you see
the clips and the stories or the videos or whatever

(12:22):
that that we clip and put on. Mostly honestly, like
the ones that hit and pop off are like the
kind of the sporadic, like the thing that wasn't planned,
the story that wasn't planned, or just like the authentic
realness you know of of storytelling. Those usually do the
best for us. But I can I think I think
that we're probably fall on the same boat. Is like,

(12:43):
because most of the days when you catch those artists there,
it's media day, it's podcasting. Yeah, so they're doing four
after yours.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
And if it's a fan of theirs who you'd like
to come to your podcast, they're possibly going to go
listen to their person do any of the four sure,
And so it just tends to be water itself down.
If I have somebody and that's doing a bunch of
interviews in a bunch of places because they have a
TV show coming out or something, I really got to
do that for like my own people, because they're everywhere, and.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
You got to find a way to do it different, right,
Like like do you have a you're like, man, I
need a certain I need a specific game. I need
to play with this this, this artist or this guest
to make it interesting or spur it along or anything
like that. Like do you go into it preparing anything
like that?

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Way to do them in Spanish? If that's the case, dope,
hit them with them.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
I feel.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
That's a that's a good question. No, I talk a
lot in mind. I think sometimes people will be like, hey,
why do you talk so much when you're interviewing people.
It's like, this is my show too, dude, amen, like
and honestly, and you're an interesting cat. I can bring

(13:57):
on the biggest guests, and this is something that we've
seen with with so much data, I can bring on
the greatest A list guest. And that's still the episodes
that performed the best for me to when I have
no guests at all. That's the weirdest part is it
will get so pumped because we have somebody come in.
Let's say it John Mayra, and John Mayra comes in
and crushes it, and then I'm like, hey, I'm gonna
be a solo episode the next time, and it's only
going to be you know, fun stuff. The booet I'm

(14:18):
talking about BOOKT and it's and that will perform so
much higher. Yeah, and that's a weird thing. So I
am like, well, I'm just gonna talk with them.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Then, Yeah, we get popped a lot with Do you
guys sing with every guest that comes on your singers?

Speaker 1 (14:31):
That's the thing? Have they not heard about the band?
You try to start with your brother?

Speaker 2 (14:34):
That's the whole entire point of this.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah, And it's like me too, Like I'm not an interviewer.
I'm somebody who likes to talk with people. You guys
are real life successful songwriters and singers, so of course
you're going to be singing with people.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
I mean, and that's kind of archtick too, is like
we don't it doesn't really feel like an interview to
us ever, Like, and that's what I think sometimes. I Mean,
there's a there's a certain couple that come to mind,
But I'm saying, like it's still people ask me, like, man,
do you enjoy the podcast? And I'm still genuinely saying, yeah,

(15:07):
I really do, because it feels like I'm having a
conversation with somebody for the first time, and it really does,
Like it doesn't feel like work when it, And I
know that's a cliche or whatever, but sitting down and
having a conversation and getting to know about somebody is
it doesn't feel like work to me. Still there are
times and days that it does, but ours are not interviews.
It doesn't feel like it feels like it's more of
a conversation.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
The two times it feels like work to me is
if I'm exhausted, and that sucks and I feel bad
for the person who's coming in. Yeah, I end up
doing a better job because I'm aware that I'm exhausted.
It's kind of funny how that works, because I'm like,
I do not feel good. I'm so tired, and it
kind of focuses me the level. Yeah, so that sucks
if I'm not feeling good. And two, man, if people

(15:49):
come in so media trained and there are artists in
town who I like as people, but they are so
trained and big artists, so I can think of it.
I'm not going to say their names. I'm friends with
them that like, they have their stories down to beats
and it's not good for an hour long yeah, no
conversation podcast.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Let me ask you, this is what actually happens in
media training, Like we obviously are not famous enough for
anybody to care about training.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
I've never done media training. Okay, so I've led sports
athletes and media training because they get interviewed and they
have no background talking to a microphone. Sure, So I've
gone to universities and walked people through media training, meaning
if you don't know what to say, here's where you go.
And you're trying to teach some people, athletes, especially the

(16:36):
most cliche things to say that mean nothing.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Athletes is trying to grate. Here, you say nothing, you
get off my teammate.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
They will meet prepared.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
That's when you hear the same things over now. Yeah. Yeah,
and those guys know how to ball, dude like, and
they don't. They don't know how to talk and they
don't have to because they're so freaking good at their
job and their giants. Well yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
It's like a jockey and they're not giants, but.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
There's gonna be a microphone in their face and they've
got to say something. They gotta say something.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
I've worked with some new business like new artists in
town secretly not I mean, I'm not hiding from it,
but I'll get a call from a friend who's like
a manager being like, hey, you just teach this person
how to be trained but not sound trained, and that's
just not getting yourself in trouble, Like that's all media
training is now.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Well, there's some that just can't help it.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Yeah, but I think some of the people getting in
trouble are trained to get in trouble like it's it's
purposeful obvious.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Oh for for like clickbait kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
For sure, and they're smart about it.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Go viral moments. Yeah, that's a good. Yeah, I just
thought they were dumb.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Some are that.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Well it's that way too. Yeah, I too.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
But the hour long interviews are almost impossible with people
that come in with an absolute agenda.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, it's pretty easy to pick up too.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
It's pretty easy to pick up. And we've had a
few lately that.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
I'm like, oh, yeah, okay, have it, have the floor.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
It's not really go through go through your bullet points,
that's it.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Do it and get it over with. Yeah, And if
I feel that in one of ours, we're about to
we're going to exhaust what you want.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
It almost be like me talking about God's Country that
airs every Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
On Uh was it anywhere anywhere you get podcast? But
that happens like this Tuesday when Averyanna is coming on.
She was great.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
She was as good anyway back to your thing.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah, we had like two months ago.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
It was great.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
People can scroll up and see that.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah, she's grown a lot and done a lot of
cool things.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
It's probably a lot of new stuff.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
She actually took a hiatus from podcast because she hated
your so much ours because ours and numbers were so big,
says she had to come.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
When she was sitting in here, she was like, this
is the last one I want to do, because if
I have to do freaking God's Country, that means I
have fallen off.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
That's so I know.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
I know that's really got Maybe songwriters go to die
there to hang tight.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
The Bobby Cast will be right back and we're back
on the Bobby Cast.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Did followers from the Big Purge?

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Oh? Did we we read about that? Did we lose
anything on that?

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Do we lose any?

Speaker 2 (19:08):
No bots for us, But it's authentic over there. Bro.
We could try to.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
I lost like twelve thousand. Yeah, And these bots have
to exist, they have to follow a bunch of people.
And I was looking at some of the.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Folks, so you don't. So it's not like people are
going and paying for these bots and then when the
bots get gone, they're gone.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
These bots are actually just just fake accounts that are
following people both.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Okay, so there are ways to buy. The reason I
would never buy is because you're gonna spend money and
they're gonna wipe it away at.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Some eventually, some point. That's right. I feel sad too,
to buy followers. It feels real sad, was.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Telling him, do you remember when they did this? They
had the big thing on TikTok where people were losing
their stuff and there were some people literally committing suicide.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
That's their job living followers. That was crazy to me, man,
that was crazy.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Is that real?

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah? Man, when they had the big TikTok.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
I remember they were going to cancel TikTok, the big TikTok thing.
When you say the big TikTok thing, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
I'm not very versed in this. Yes, please telling you.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
I remember seeing a video of a dude crime Sam.
I had X amount of followers, and now I have this.
Because of this, I've lost all my sponsorships. I don't
know how I'm a feed my family. I'm not saying
that guy did it, but I'm just saying there there
are some people that have built legit businesses gosh out
of those media terrifying.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
And then you lose them you can buy. I would
never because that's just throwing away money. It's temper that's
a temporary investment. Hopefully people see you have these followers,
get your clout, you get to be on other things.
But there are bots that just follow big accounts as well,
because they have to prove they're a real person. And
you can find a bot real easy if their fault.
If they have they're not following anybody and they're just

(20:53):
posting like crazy. So there are strategies to create bots
as well where you don't have to buy them, and
the biggest accounts get the most bought follows, not even purchased.
Oh so that's why like Taylor lost five.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Million, five million, I mean she have three hundred million million.
Uh is that more people than they're in the world.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
I just pulled the one.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
That's how you know they're ten billion. They're fifty billion
people following.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Kendall Jenner lost three point seven millions. Landa Gomez lost
six million, Beyonce lost five million, Baber lost four million.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Yeah, man, water weight, right, if I can't, we said
I dropped eighteen past, you'd be like, hell, yeah, man, congratulations.
But if I said, well, it's I actually just took
this hydroxy cut sponsor us and uh and and because
of that, it's just a bunch of water weight, you'd
be like, well.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
That these bots are waterweight. Uh So yeah, I didn't
know if you guys lost any with your wildly successible podcast.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
I mean, honestly, bro, if we did, I wouldn't even know.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
We're barely treading water here, buddy, you know, I mean
like in life general, not just a podcast. It's doing
we have this zero time. I was like, wait, it
is to check up on the follows.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
But yeah, we did research it just so we would
kind of go what you're talking about?

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Yeah, I lost between ten and fifteen thousand.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
But do you do?

Speaker 3 (22:13):
Right?

Speaker 2 (22:14):
City here? Is that gonna affect you? Now? Do you care?

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Do I care?

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Do you care?

Speaker 1 (22:19):
I expect those bought. I expect that to happen. Those flushes,
cause about every.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Year, oh a year, they have them once a year, yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
About every year. They're one of those that happens. This
one wasn't that bad for me. So and I have
like on my personal account, I was getting real close
to one point three million. I was at one point
two and I was like, oh, I'm about to at
one point three. They flushed me right before one point three,
So that was a little frustrating, but I don't social
media is not social as much anymore, meaning it's not

(22:46):
who you follow as much as it's more of what
you're interested in. So algorithms feed us the stuff all
the time, more so what we're interested in, what we're
looking at, more than who we follow. It used to
be back in the day, you follow bunch people. You're
just gonna see what all your friends are doing. Now
you can, you can follow everybody, and that's fine, but
if your friends aren't posting things that you would generally
be interested in, you're going to see it very little,
and your algorithm is going to feed you things that

(23:07):
you like that you don't even follow.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Very true.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
So it's more like a follower media than a social
media Yeah, yeah, that was I hurt. No, was that
a little frustrated? Yeah, yeah, yeah, something about buying them back.
That's how I buy them, I buy them back to
get even I got I.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Got you bots? Yeah, is it the box you're getting?
There's it's I don't know who it is.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
There are these services, and I don't know if they're
true that they say they can get you organic followers.
That just feels like bots though.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
I mean you can buy streams. I mean people know that. Like,
there's this guy.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
I don't know how to do that. I could show
you how to buy bots.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Well, let's just say I know a guy that knows
a guy and and it is literally I can't tell
you the exact number, but from the judging by the video,
I was shown thousands of phones plugged into and they
and he goes to a computer doo dooo, doo boop,
and all of those things just playing the same playing

(24:04):
the same song, and they run that joker for so
you can pay.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
You can pay this guy X amount of money to run.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Two thousand dollars, I can guarantee you one hundred thousand
streams or whatever, a million, whatever the exponential you know
factor is. But yeah, ultimately you just send a check
and they whatever you pay.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Is what is that going on with pds anymore? Still?

Speaker 1 (24:26):
I have no idea. I don't do music. I have
nothing to do with music, and I would say no
like a payo.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
The thing is that still radio they.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Want now they watch that stuff and I'm not involved
to do nothing with music and radio except if I
want to have somebody up and play or if I
want to like. But my career is not based off
of music anymore. It's just the content that I'm creating
for the most part.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
So you're not doing the radios in the morning show.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah, but I just talked about me like I was
talking about earlier. I just talked about me the whole time,
or bringing artists to guests, and sure, let them talk
about it. I don't play music. Music's played. I don't
pick it. If I want to, like play a song,
I can.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
But if I was the KICKI like tan K, would
you play?

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Oh god no, it would be worth it a hundred No, literally,
I can play this game.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
How much can I make on a catalog souse? I love?
How much? How much game? Like? What would it take
you to do?

Speaker 1 (25:12):
They are they cracked down on that stuff so hard.
But I saw the SEC was investigating the streaming services
because of all of the manipulation of streams. The difference
is though the streaming services aren't public, broadcast is public.
They got to crack down on that because they own that.
That's the government. But you're right, you can buy so

(25:33):
many streams YouTube's, you can buy looks. But what they
do is they feed it in there for you. So
it's not really they're not forcing anybody to watch it streams.
They can fake streams, but it works because if there's
an artist and somebody's pitching them for, you know, to
open or they're like, yeah, they've got they had four
million streams last month, You're like what the crew really.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Does not matter if they were real or not. Absolutely,
So it's an game.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
It's an investment to buy streams. And I'm not saying
you should do this. It's an investment to buy streams.
Then you get streams, then you get work, and hopefully
that work that you're getting pays off the investment that
you just did to get.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
The streams and and and picks up the streams.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Which then picks up the streams.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
You don't have to have fake streams anymore.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
And in the end, if you believe the artist is
good enough to actually get streams, if you run the
process you invest in that if you don't have integrity,
I'd like to say that at the end. Yeah, yeah,
because like I get the game for sure. I get
the game.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Is the game right that's that is, that's the bottom
of the seventh, your down one the game right there.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
The inside ball of all these things is what kind
of blows my mind. Like we had a best We
have a best buddy that pitched in the majors for
a long time, and for a long time I thought,
based just say pitch you want to young, Okay, great guy,
he plays music too.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Yeah. But he when when we really.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
Became buddies with him and he explained us what's really
going on in baseball. It isn't even what you think baseball.

Speaker 5 (27:07):
It's not what you're watching like I assumed, and I
was a player. I played my entire like you know,
high school, middle school, whatever. Literallygue the game to me
was seeing the ball come out of the hand, deciding
on what that pitch was, and doing my best to
hit the ball. That is not the game in the
major leagues. The ball's moving.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
So fast that these cats are choosing how they're going
to swing before he ever even winds.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Up it's tons of information sitting on pitches based on
I have to count inning habits down up absolutely last pitch,
ye base runners, how many outs are in It's it's yeah,
absolutely man.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
There's always I feel like the older I get, the
more I realized there's like inside ball on everything.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
And the more knowledge there is about everything, the more
inside ball is created. It's happening with music now, but
it has been happening at every level and every generation.
There's a group of guys like us or women sitting
around going can you believe how crazy it is now?
Like that dude that has that that has never stopped.
Absolutely man, And there's no to be people in twenty
years doing the same thing with little holograms, a little

(28:19):
hologram podcast.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
People.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
It was so good back in twenty twenty six. It
was so easy. All you have to do is by streams,
and now it's like, well you got to call your
psychic and so it's an odd It's odd because you
would just think artists is good. Yes, artist plays and
gets discovered because they are good people. Then follow come
there are great artists now that were discovered because of

(28:45):
people running the schemes.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
There were great artists.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Now, there are great there are There are great artists
that only have been broken because of people doing what
we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
You know, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
And that doesn't mean they're any less. That was just
a financial stress.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
That was their road. Yep.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah and so And if it were me, I'll do
it for me. Like if I were an artist and
I had the money, I'd buy streams.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
If you were an artist and you could pump your
stuff up to get to another level, you.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Would, yeah, because it was really that good, I would oh.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yeah, And that's your lifelong dream. Now, if it's really
your passion and really you believe you can really do it,
absolutely you're going to go to all costs to make
it work. And if that's a viable option, then that's
a vible option.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Most of the time, it's not an option though, right,
Like most of the guys come in here are not
Like I can go drop two hundred and fifty grand
to get my song in the Is it that much?

Speaker 1 (29:31):
I don't know, Yeah, I don't know. You're the one
that has wait the data factory, running the phone.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
You're the one running the scheme.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
It is very much a game inside of game, though,
and A and R is a whole different world. And
you know they're like, put out a song seventy two times,
only play a clip of it and if one of
them catches, that's good. But now you can hire these companies.
I think Goose the band was that they were just
in a story. And I can look this up where
people are like, oh, their industry plants because they had
paid all this money to this company to clip feed them.

(30:04):
And that's not industry plant. That's them just choosing a strategy.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
That's that's paid somebody to clip clip our stuff.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Different. There's there's there's something that would be you're paying
one person to do the editing and the clipping. I'm
going to give you an example of something Tuesday. There
is a service, there's money account there following different companies
that you can hire. And let's say, if I wanted.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
To do it, are we doing something for sure?

Speaker 1 (30:39):
That's why I don't feel like the Goose Industry Plant
story is fair to them. They just chose a strategy.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
I heard that as the Goose industry Comma plant and
I was like you too much?

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah, remove sorry, get out of the woods.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Come back to music.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Industry Plant Goose is a rock band, got it? Uh,
great name.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
There are companies brother, you can pay ten grand a
month to They will take your stuff and in that
ten grand a month, not only will they send it
to be uh to these influencer accounts to put on
and organically talk about it. They they create all of
these basically body accounts and they start loading up all

(31:18):
your clips all over the place. Now, because it's not
social media, it's interest media, you start to catch all
these body accounts that are playing. You're seeing it because
if you ever see like something to co on, you're like,
the account's for twenty two sixty eight three Red Red Room.
You're like, oh, that's not a real account, but it
does have nineties wrestling. I love nineties wrestling.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
Yeah, I've seen that. So that mine's always cockcams following
a cop cam cockcam cop pa pa.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
You know where a cop goes into a yeah, pup
chicken husband. What's funny about cop cops cop PU with
a p copcam pa pa?

Speaker 3 (31:54):
How other cops just keep talking away? So when Tennessee
VIDs three four three four four three says send me
this in the DM, it's not.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
A real person, not a real person. Isn't that weird
when they're like, can I share this? Because that's just
a bot just doing that at the very bottom. The
other interesting thing.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Is I don't even mess with any of that.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Oh yeah, this is me and Jumps carry the weight
of what you don't do.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Thank you, because this sounds terrible. It is.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
You don't do it.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
He'll no, he don't do nothing. Yeah right, I don't
do social media like I hate I hate it and
it stresses me out. And she'll fill me in if
I need to be filled in. But I don't do it.
You don't do it. You do it because you're addicted
to it.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
I do it because if I don't do it, then
Jumps has to post all our stuff by ourself.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
How much you post the bro I mean once a year?

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Slow?

Speaker 2 (32:47):
But the captions I.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Have, those are so there are people that you can
hire because the captions are so important, the captions and
the hooks of the video that are so important that
that is their specific job. And I will say there
is absolute value to it. Sure, just captioning videos and
making sure the first three seconds has a hook to
it and if it can be the greatest video ever

(33:08):
and if there's not something that creates engagement that makes
people want to comment on it. It won't be seen
because the Instagram's tiktoks of the world. They are basing
what they're sharing on the engagement, the comments, the shares
to share to other people. So that's an art. It's
an absolute art for people to do captions and.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
Yes, clips, I also think it's an art to maintain
the integrity and sound like the voice of whoever is
featured in the clips. Like that's the thing that men
jumps from between each other so much, because yes, she's
doing all that right, But like, if it doesn't sound
like a post from us our voice, sure it doesn't

(33:51):
do as well.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
What about a post that doesn't sound like your voice
that does great or a post that sounds like your
voice that does terrible, which would rather have the great one? Yeah,
but it's a it's a tough thing to yeah, for sure,
for sure is tough. But yeah, I realize that sometimes
it doesn't need to sound like it's from my voice
depending on who I'm talking to, Like the like I

(34:12):
had a labor and delivery nurse on my wife's had
a baby and I'm so like, I'm so interested in
that world now.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
And congrats, by the ways, it was a big guest.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Why thank you?

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Yeah, no, the baby, I got it? Yeah, wait what
just happened? Anyway?

Speaker 1 (34:29):
But I have to trust my people.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Yeah, you have to. You have to. We there was
a rocky.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
Road there for a little bit of the man and
then you hone it in, you know, and now it's
we completely trust our people.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
The Bobby Cast will be right back. Welcome back to
the Bobby Cast.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
What about the it's called blue dot fever. Have you
guys been seeing this? Where so? Blue dot fever is
if you go to the map, let's say, if it's
Ticketmaster or wherever it is, all the blue dots are
seats that haven't been sold. Do you ever go to that?
You ever see? I'm familiar familiar because like when I
would when I was doing a lot of stand up,

(35:10):
I would look at the freaking.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Dots on your show.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Interesting.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
As soon as tickets went on sale and I'm online
watching going, I wonder if today's day that nobody likes
me anymore? Like I was putting so much of my worth.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Into that kind of reading the comments A little bit.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yeah, a little bit, except these people are choosing not
to spend money. A lot of these shows are getting canceled.
Pusscat Dolls get canceled, their toy get canceled, Megan Trainer's
tour canceled. We saw some early postmone Jelly Roll stadium
shows get canceled. And they're calling a blue Dot fever

(35:48):
because you go and look at the map and there's
so many blue dots that you're like, oh, this is
not going to sell enough for them to make their
money back.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
They can't bro not not in today's day.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Why do you think it's weird? Because the Wall and
the combs is are still doing freaking stadiums.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
And I And that's where that's where I think I'm
at with it, is like I think stadiums could still,
Like I think stadiums are still if you're an act
that can fill up a stadium.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
But there's not there's not many. I think people don't
think they are that act exactly.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
Well, look, man, we've got to be honest about the
factors that determine that, right, like availability of I mean, look, man,
my best, our best buddy is Luke Combs. Everybody in
the world knows that by now he played in Knoxville
last weekend.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
My wife was like, we should go. I'm like, yeah,
let's check out the prices, and everybody gets cool. It
wasn't the ticket, it's the Airbnbs and the hotels and
rut of my.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Jet my story here so again.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
So I was talking to uh, she goes, oh, yes,
this hotel room is eleven hundred dollars.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
I was like, forget that.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
We'll see Combs at is Barn making play a few
songs for our kids and go to the house like
it's it's cheaper to do that than to pay three
nights for that, so we can completely wrote it off,
which in turn had me had a conversation. My best
friend in life is Luke Comb's guitar player, and he
said that even some of the so they get the
dates right, they get the dates like a year in advance.

(37:13):
Some of the band's family was booking Airbnbs in Knoxville
because they knew that was that the show was coming,
and then Airbnb or whatever the thing was was canceling
their stuff and rebooking, putting it available for four times
as much. And his argument was everybody's whining about Ticketmaster

(37:34):
and how they gaped price gouges. He said, they ought
to check some of these hotels and Airbnb's doing that
same thing, because everybody in those towns are doing that,
and I think that contributes to lack of it's so
fortunate to go to these.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Shows and to plane ticket gas. If you're driving the
ticket to the concerts going up, I mean, and the
problem is, yeah, lodging. Some of these acts can't it's
not just five to do some of the venues that
they're doing, and I don't know that. I don't know
that most of them will go down and venue size
to make it work.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
I think too, it's a bit of you. My grandma
would always say your eyes are bigger than your belly is.
And I think that's with management and agents more than
it is the artist, where you have managers and agents
going we're going to try to do a stadium, We're
gonna try to do arena.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
It's a million percent, we're going to risk it.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
We think it's closed, but we think you can do it.
And then when it doesn't, it doesn't look bad on
the manager or the agent. No, it's kind of embarrassing
for the artist, and the artist just.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Wants to do shows. I think what it does get
I think it gives an opportunity to be creative and
figure out a way to do it a new way
and more intimate and like really connect with fans instead
of just going up there and staying on the stage
and playing in front of forty thousand people and never
engaging with them. I think it's got to I think
there's a real, real opportunity for somebody to engage in
a way that they can do to make money as

(38:55):
well as in a different community.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
There's what you're saying, right, tickets are so expensive due yeah,
they eat the ticket, dude, it's it's it's but I'm
telling the trick.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
It's the weekend.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
It's also the ticket. I agree with you fully, and
but like dynamic ticket pricing, I get. I get a
grocery stores are doing that now too, a little bit
where it's like, well yeah, some of them are starting
to do that, where it's like the less that there
are because it's higher in demand, we're gonna make it
more expensive.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Right, Perfect bars leave them so much to Adiom piece.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
I just looked their eleven dollars now piece because they're
out dynamic ticket pricing on Perfect bars.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
When I see my kids eating half of them things
and throwing them down the mud, I just want to.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
I just pick it up and eat it. Hug my kid.
I'm a I'm a trash can dude at my house.
Nothing go if I pay for it is getting eaten.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
By Let's just say this the world, dude, in the world.
If you're not balling out, now, how do.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
You afford anything?

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Dude?

Speaker 3 (39:48):
I mean, it is the craziest thing to me that
that that people are paying what they're paying to I
mean even to the comb shows. I love him to death,
and I'm like, man, these guys are spending five to
eight g's to be here, and they're going to four shows.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
A year, like just to get really high tickets. You're
going to spend you and if you and your wife
or you, you're gonna spend five six hundred bucks to
get the worst to get the worst height.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
Yeah, which is if you take a family of four
to a show, you're out two g's just.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
On tickets and bro a T shirt's eighty nine dollars,
the hats sixty bucks.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Everything's getting more expensive and people aren't making the money right, No, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
They are not making the money, But it's also becoming easier,
and it's also becoming easier to view it in different
mediums as well. And I think that's what people are
doing it too. I think people are, oh, bro, you
don't have to pay for a ticket to go see
them anymore.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
To sit on my couch and watch the Titans lose them.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
That's what I'm saying in used to you could used
to is the only way to do it is to
pay a ticket that you go see who you love?
Now you can see them on YouTube, you see them
on Instagram and seem on. It's not the same. I
get it, I know, I get it. But it's easier.
It's a it's a something to think of. Go oh man,
well I can just sit back on this one. What
do you think you headed in on your first concert?
You ever went to?

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Church? Paid for it? I went to Diamond Rio. Church
paid for that. One church paid for domand Magic Springs
theme park. It was also the Cold Church. Yeah, the
first concert bought tickets too. Oh you can't sing on
the show. Sorry, Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
You got a guitar sitting there. You can't even sing
on the show.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
But people will play it and go like, let me
show how I did, uh wrote this part of this song?
They can do that. Like the lead singer of switch
Foot was in and I was like, hey, stars kind
of sounding. He's like, yeah, this is how it went
from the bridge here. That's all fine, you're gonna pay
for that. First ticket ever bought at a concert was
probably John Fogerty and that was like, but but also

(41:41):
you're talking like twenty five years ago. I was like
eighteen bucks.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Yeah, that's yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
It used to be just a concert fee would be
like three bucks, but now the fees are almost double
the ticket price.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
I just think in life people are getting coming to
the edge, dude, people are coming.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
I think the bubbles about. I think the bubbles about
to pop.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
There's a tension we're not doing it anymore, like we're
just not going to pay for it anymore.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
But there are a few artists that can do stadiums,
and those artists that are right below them are being
encouraged to do and then it's not working out, and
it's kind of embarrassing for them because then the news
runs with it.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Love it absolutely.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
The stadium acts now Wallin Comb's, Zach Bryan, those three
because they do them currently Kenny and country music Garth
for sure.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
I think Eric could do it.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
I think he could strategically do it.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
I don't know that he wants to do it.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
I don't either, And I don't think he invests enough
in keeping him like he does his own thing. He's
not trying to stay extremely relevant to a massive press
tour and getting new people to fall in love with him.
I think those five I think if you were to
team some people up, you could do it. But even
that's hard. Like George Straight with Stapleton does it. George

(42:55):
Straight doing three shows a year can do it. But
to do like Wallin and Comb and every weekend just
go pop around, do freaking stadium.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
He's doing two shows a lambo yeah, man, he's doing
Wimbley Yeah, three nights.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
But to see that encourage you to go, man, maybe
I can do that. If he can do that. And
that is a hard jump from an arena.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
To a stack. Oh it's huge, man, big jump.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
That is a hard That's a jump from a big
stadium twenty two thousand to eighty or ninety thousand. You're
like four xing it.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
And I let me just let me just say this
for my boy too.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
Man, what does he got forty it's a forty seven.
It's like forty seven.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
But here's the here's the other sneaky, he's got forty
seven trucks.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
It's dude, it might be one hundred and forty seven.
I mean there are Let's just say.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
The stadium shows are different when you're blocking off an
end zone and doing a stadium show.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Yeah sixty, there is nothing.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
Blocked off, dude, that is a complete three sixty. Every
seat you can sit in is open.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Yeah. I mean, what do you do at Knoxville ninety two?
He did ninety seven in Ohio, Bro, and I'm talking
about it looks like it feels like we wait. It
feels like Elon Musk is about to send a space
action ship off the It's intense, man, It's intense. It's
the wildest wild.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
This is my coolest stadium story. It's a minor flex
that I've told it before. It was April fools Day
a few years ago and I got a call from
a finger quote Garth Brooks on April Fol's Day and
Garth Brooks was like, hey, it's Garth. I didn't recognize
the number, and I know Garth a little bit. I
have Garth's number on my phone. It was from a
number that wasn't sound like yeah a little bit. I
had my wife come over and I was like, I

(44:27):
put it on mute. I was like, this guy says
he's Garth. Listen, and so she comes over and I
put it back on speaker and he's like, hey, man,
it's Garth. I'm gonna play Raised back Stadium about to
announce it, and Arkansas would love for you to be
the main support for me and Tricia. And I'm like, okay, yeah,
I'm in. Hey, I mean I'll come play the stadium Garth.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Yeah April Fools.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Aprilful's Day, right, And I was like, yeah, count me in,
and so he's like cool, uh man hangs up and
he hung up so quickly. I was like, was that
actually Garth? And my wife goes, I don't It's April
Foll's Day, Like why would you believe anything on April
Fol's Day? And I'm like okay. Next day, Guard's manager
call and said, hey, you're going to open You're going

(45:07):
to be main support for Garth and raizorback Stadium. I
was like, was that real?

Speaker 2 (45:12):
And he was like he was like, yes, So it
was Garth.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
I played for one hundred and two thousand people, biggest.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
That's amazing, biggest show.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Ever in Arkansas history. It was a Garth headline show
in the round, full stadium around and before the show
because he had an opener and Mitch yeah, yeah, yeah
and so and he was great and Garth was like, hey,
I don't want you to go on till it's dark.
He came before I went on, and I was like,
that's so cool, Like who would even think of that?

(45:41):
He said, because I want you to like experience this
with the lights.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
Pretty sick, dude, it's pretty sick.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
And then he said then Guard said, I also, if
you want to go over your time, because he gave
us forty minutes, he said, if you want to go
over your time, don't go over the Tricia was right
next to him, and she goes, don't go over and
I was like, don't worry.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
I ain't going.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Part of me was even thinking I'm thirty ninety yes please.
And then what was cool though, He's like, hey, this
is around like you're talking about. It's exhausting to play
that because you have to pay attention to everybody. He said,
I want you to use the whole stage because people
will feel like that you're not giving it to them
because they're all around.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
You got to keep it moving.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
And nobody was No one was there to see me.
They were there to see Garth. But to see that,
like how much energy has to be done all the
way around there are people. It's sea, like shining sea
in the stadium. Yeah, and for comes to do that
constantly and to not be forty years old, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
It's crazy. It's crazy, man, it's crazy. It's crazy experience.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
I mean as far as like what all goes into it,
it's just the logistics are insane.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
They don't make sense. The night we're there, we're on
the bus.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
I mean I kind of bust and combs out on this.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
But he's like, y'allall we're standing. They all stand with bus,
meaning we're like all right. So we we hang out.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
We eat, we warm up some pizza in the micro world.
We eat that, go to bed, and all of a
sudden we hear like thirteen alarms go off.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
This is in South mand From his room, it's like,
please take shelter, Please take shelter. He come, you were
in the direct line of the tornado. There's a tornado
coming right for us. Everybody get gets out stadium right now.
We're like, hey, man, maybe we could just chill and
see if it like comes.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
He's like, no, off the bus.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
And harp his best his best lifetime buddy. It's like,
I don't want to do this arms, this false alarm.
He's like, he's like going, So it's we're running. We
run through a torrential downpoint. We had my contacts then
into the stadium. I don't even know. I had a
shirt on into the stadium in the locker room when
we were.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
Trying to get in and we were like two o'clock
in the morning.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
There's nobody in the stadium.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Did the tornado hit anywhere close?

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Yeah? Yeah, Oh he did. Yeah. He came right through there.
It came right up just like south I think, just
south of South maund.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
So he was kind of right then.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
I mean the bus didn't get picked up and thrown them, dude,
I mean he was.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
There's a guy on YouTube that we all watch now
that I kind of put everybody on and the weather
guy and he's like Ryan Hall is saying to get
into cover. So right put a helmet on.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
It was, Yeah, did you guys have tornadoes growing up?

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (48:17):
Yeah, I feel like it's more now though, Yeah, I
feel like it is too more.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
I do feel like though, And I tell people this,
and I hope my I hope. I've got a little
I got a little boy. I got a little girl too.
But like when I was little and there's a tornado
coming through, This is how much I trusted my dad. Dude,
I would I would go to him and I go, hey, Dad.
I was like, are we gonna be all right? And
he'd be like, yeah, man, we're gonna be fine, And dude,
I would have gone out there and played basketball in it,
just because the way I try. Like I didn't know,

(48:42):
but like I remember being going to uh our neighbors
over there that we used to go to the morrises
and going downstairs and base yeah, and just playing video
games but not being scared because Dad said to not
be scared when it could have been. We could have
been absolutely direct hitting.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
When Luke Combs says, be scared, do you be are scared?

Speaker 2 (49:01):
I was not scared.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
You're not scared. I was completely fine. I was with
I was team Hart. We were going to stay on
the bus, but like he was going to.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Drag nobody staying on that bus. He was just going
to drag.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Us out by all right, to get in that if
we had to.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
We don't have basements here, which is odd because we have,
like you said, a lot of tornadoes living in Nashville,
and half I was reading our nocturnal tornadoes, which means
we got a freaking be butt puckered all night long.
One of us has to stay awake and watch because
they hit at night here in national life.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Why is that? It's very true. It does feel like
you called him nocturnal.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
I didn't. I read about it.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
It's kind of cool name.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Yeah, half of the tornadoes to hit where we live
are nocturnal tornado like Natos.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
Tornados.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
We had a bunch growing up. We had a bunch
of Arkansas. Yeah, because Arkansas is not quite Oklahoma and Kansas,
but it's close, so we would not have the worst
version of it. But we had a bunch And for
like significant parts of my life at different times, I
lived in different trailer parks, and well, what I remember
most is when tornadoes would come. Everybody this is it

(50:04):
sounds you know, counterintuitive, to what you do. Everybody gets
out and they go to a ditch. You're outside and
you go to a ditch and you cover yourself because
if you're in the tornado and not even if the
tornado hits, if the heavy winds hit. Yeah, the trailer
Like one of the memories that's like embedded into my
mind is when tornadoes were coming, everybody would be coming
out of the trailers, walking down to the ditch, yep,

(50:26):
and just getting down crazy.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
That's pretty nute, you hear, you do hear those stories
of like like that's like it hit the trailer park
and then there was one guy holding on to the toilet,
you know.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Cause it was like like the house was gone, but
he was sitting there, you know, strapped in.

Speaker 4 (50:39):
Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor.
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Speaker 1 (50:47):
Who have you had on your show recently that you
did not expect to really like? Not that you didn't
think you disliked them, but maybe you didn't know. But
they came in and they left, and you're like, legit.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Zach top for me, I didn't know and we didn't
know it. From Adam. I loved his stuff. I loved
the two records he did, and obviously he's a monster,
you know, playing the guitar musician and he could sing
you know, phone Book, but like really, you know, not
knowing anything about him, what he's like, what he likes,
his interest that that aversation or that conversation and interview

(51:21):
was I left going. Man, I'm a I'm an even
bigger fan of that top than I was. Originally I
thought he was Morgan's great I've known Morgan for a while.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Same, he's the greatest.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
He's just a great dude. He's a great dude, like
man's man.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Like just like I would. I feel like I could
call him if somebody's gonna beat me up, I could
call him. If I needed some money, I could call
He would just be there and like we have that relationship.
Though I know you guys had some viral stuff with
I mean I had some like crazy stuff.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
Well because we piggybacked off that a little bit.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Oh great, I just the Garth Morgan Evan stuff for
you guys. Yeah, that's right that we talking about.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
But we talked about, Yeah, we're talking the guy that
we really went nuts on. The guy, Yeah, the girl
guy that called him a girl oh yeah, Yeah, you
know the guy that wears v Nex with those shirts
under them.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
That's got blonde strips in his hair.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
I tell you what, if I could pull it off,
I would, though, that's the thing, you would, I think,
so I can't for that though, I'm not I'm too old. Yes, cool,
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
I'm not. Well, you're cool, guy, I can see you
going streaks.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Yeah, I wear cardigans every day in my life. I
think I'm cool because I don't chase it anymore. I
chased it for a while.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
You did that cars kind of screaming chasy my car?
Yeah it's his car.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
I'm guessing it's the probably the blue porch that's sitting
right here.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
No, it's a Lamborghini. Chasy.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Nothing says I want to blend like al get to
get it right. I'm not a car guys, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
I'm not a car guy either. I know nothing, no
know nothing about cars. My dream my whole life was
to have a Bentley. And when I your whole life, well,
as soon as I saw like rich people on TV,
I want to Yeah, I was like, I want.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
To be the be Is that that's the bee with
the wings?

Speaker 1 (53:11):
You know what it also was a bee. That makes
sense because also my name is by twice. I just
connected well and I'm a real name.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
How sick would be to have a Bentley that had
the B B on it?

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Dude, that's I told traded in for that. Yeah, but
I didn't. I got it and it was cool, and
I was like, man, this, but I was so low
to the ground and it was like I should have
been drive, I should have been chiffe in somebody.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
It felt like, so, if you really got a Bentley,
you're riding in the back of it.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Yeah, it's a good point too. I didn't have a driver,
and it was a cool car, but I don't see
very well, and I kept hitting potholes because this town
sucks for potholes. And my watch is like, you have
to have an SUV. This is God's honest story truth,
And I said, okay, So I finally had my dream car,
to which my When I first moved to town, I
got a business manager, which was weird to me to
pay somebody money to watch money. But then I was

(53:59):
having like pay percentages and I felt like I was
going to go to jail for paying for doing wrong.
So I was like, I got to have a business manager.
And I said that broke board mindset though very much.
I had sure, absolutely very much, and I said I
want to I really wanted to get to the point
where I may make enough money to get a Bentley.
And so for Christmas that next year, she gave me
a remote control Bentley. She was like, this will do

(54:21):
for now. I still have that remote control Bee from
when I first moved to town, but I bought that card.
It was a big deal for me. And I kept
having flat tires and those rims are not cheap. So
my wife said, you got to get a suv. So
I was like, let's go practical and about the Lamborghinia shub.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
Well, if it makes you feel any better, there's a
screw in my tire right now, letting the air out
in your parking lot.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
And I have a big.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
Truck, so regardless of what you have, there's screws all
over this town.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Not a screwish.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Why when did that happen?

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Well, we hopped in the truck today to pick Red
up and he goes, hey, man, I was like, you're
lift your back lift tires flat. Just sensed it.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
You're like the Princess and the pee just getting a
truck and knowing a tires left.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
It was pancake, didn't I drive?

Speaker 1 (55:01):
He sits in, It's like left, no, right rear tire flat.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
It's a I'm a dude, I know what a flat
tire looks like. He goes, you're back tires flat. I
was like, no, dude, everybody.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
He's like, get in, we're late. Come on.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
I was like, we gotta go now, all right, I
whip it out. I'm like, let me just check. It's
like thirty one, thirty one, thirty one thirteen.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
I was like, oh my god, what's happening right now?
We're rolling. We're already rolling down the road and I'm
like he's like, oh, you weren't lying my tires flat.
He's like, I know what a flat tire looks? Like,
what don't you tell me? He's like, I did we.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
Rip it around that story in my life. He's like,
I can plug it real quick. I was like, no, dude,
we're gonna be like, just guess that thing up. We'll
fill it up at a BP.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Be flat. It's flat flat. We're gonna have to stop
at the BP and I'll do the whole tire. So well,
how you are.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
That sucks.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
No, it's fine.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Back in the day you fill out with fix a flat.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
Back in the day, I'd be really concerned about it.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Today. I haven't thought about it until.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Right now because you got songwriting rich. You can't call
me out having a Lamborghini and not emit your sign.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Me up.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
What song have you written that you made the most
money from? Read kind of Love We May Luke Combs,
kind of Love We Make. I'm not asking you how much.
I would never do that to you call me out
for a porch and not even a Porsche Dan, not
a car guy, Guy, What song have you written that
you made the most money from?

Speaker 3 (56:20):
Oh Man, he is kind of love to probably better together.
But it was a five week number one. It was
in the heat heat of the Combs.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
He got four. He's got a four week right now.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
I'm not saying he's not still all the rockets yet.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
I'm just saying this was the incline of the I
think I had like one of the well I had
the first big piano ballad, you know, and it just
happened to to really do good.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
Do you guys get paper checks in the mail or
do they just go to your bank.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
We did for a long time being mine would just
send us you get a check by annually, I think.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
But now it's direct to pause, and there's still some
like there's still some publishing checks you can get in
the mill if you don't have it set up to
go direct deposit.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
It just makes sense get direct DEPOSITI though, didn't get lost.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
And yeah, it convinced me. I'm familiar with how the
direct deposit works. I just wondered if it actually just
mailed it to you.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
I'll tell you this though, my wife knew what they was.
She'd be waiting, but she'd be standing by that. Oh yeah,
they know, they know when that thing was coming.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
Baby.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
I have nothing to say about that. I'm not I'm
not jumping in that. They know in case everybody's bro,
that's just them.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
He knows.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
They know I'm looking at your camera, so he knows,
we know I'm looking at your camera for you and
saying they know, Okay.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
Look, God's Country podcast. You guys do a great job.
Is over already, We've done over an hour and your
tires flat now guilty flat out there, because that's all
I could think about if I were in here in
your position and had a flat tire. All I will
be thinking about is, oh my god, I'm gonna walk
out and I'm gonna be just on a nub bro.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
We literally filled it up with air and we got like.
I was like, all right, it's good, and it was.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Like, I was like, let's get it. I was like, well,
I couldn't be late because last I'm almost late. We started,
we did the whole half of interview.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
We got there.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Yeah, No, it wasn't. It wasn't. I wasn't that late.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
You just can't ever tell national traffic man, I would
be fixing potholes at two o'clock.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
On Nashville traffic. Are you talking about the last name?
You're still apologizing for that one? Yeah, that was the
latest anybody has ever been in the history though, honest
to God, in the history of me doing that's the
latest anybody's ever been.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Ten minutes.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Yeah, because because once they hit about seven, I cancel it.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Mmm, you didn't cancel there? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that.
I understand that.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Actually, unless it.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Was out of my control, but I get it. Yeah,
it's all good.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Yeah, yeah, all rights to everybody. Check out the God's
Country Podcast. I'm a fan of it.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Come back on.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
We just did the thing. I'm happy to come back on.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
I'd love to do this thing.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Oh yeah, it's like, what am I going to talk about?

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Uh, unless we're talking talk about fish, go fishing. Unless
let's scope, let's do it, let's go fishing podcasts.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
Yeah, I would do that with you guys. I would
do that. That would be fun.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
Still over Well, I'm just going through my calendar. I'm
a little busy that day, like every day for Yeah, yeah,
I wanted you heard me, want to do it?

Speaker 3 (59:18):
Actually, just going fishing without the podcast would be way
more fun.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
I think I just watched Anxiety win. I just that's
exactly right. You kind of beat that devil down. I
know you gotta go. Man, that sounds fun right now,
and it'll be fun today I do it.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
How are you guys juggling your time though to make
sure you do a quality show whenever? You guys writing
songs all the time.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
Hm hmm. We just going before we just go like
we like there's honestly like like Jordan gives us a
little prep sheet before the show and the night before
and we kind of research it. But like I know,
without a shadow of a doubt that when we walk

(01:00:04):
into a room, it doesn't matter who we're with, whatever
show it is, it's gonna be a good show. Like
I just I've got complete on hundred percent confidence in us.
Throw on bomb at least. Yeah, nothing's gonna nothing's gonna fail.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
If we do bomb, it'll at least be funny.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Yeah, that's awesome. I feel the opposite. It's gonna suck.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
We Oh. I feel that every time driving into town.
But then I also know at the end of it,
like get that anxiety double off.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
You gotta love it. But it's also my superpower, honest
to God, like me being so it pushes you very much.
So I have the super focused.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Is that exhaustion thing we're talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
Dial it in very much. So I wasn't worry about
with you guys, like I like talking with you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Did you wonder if we're gonna be on time?

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
No, No, not at all. I didn't remember that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
We were real close to being late. Yeah, but it
was legiti.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
This time, we're gonna be late to whatever we gotta
go to next because we gotta fix that tire.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
What's next?

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
I don't even know you're writing.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
No, Friday, Friday birthday, one of my kids birthday parties
tomorrow and then the next day we're hosting like mother
mother's days.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Why what a lot coming down the shoot?

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Is it like a worked thing or just like eight mothers?
Like family friends, there's plenty.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Of work involved, but it's a marriage thing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Yeah, got it. They know we don't need to go there, dude,
they don't.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
You guys speak so negatively, like the tone is just
always so negative. They know we don't got to go there.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
I mean always twice, it's just so negative twice.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
It's a long way from always. All right, well this
is a long way from it. Yeah, twice from always.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
Now, as that song that had been published, we just
got published because we co wrote it. That's that's not
how it works. It's not publishers because you sing it.
That's like I declared bankruptcy and then going we.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Got to turn it aroun Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
We just we just yeah, yeah, we just trademarked it
by singing it recorded.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
So that's not how that works. I thought that's how
that worked. Gotta be a brand, we don't. We should
do some legal I'll get you a legal zoom. We're good,
all right, all right, God's Country Podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
I think I'd rather go to jail actually that week.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
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they write country music. They bring on the greatest artist
and country music to come on, and you guys do
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long time. So yeah, you guys. Check out God's Country
Podcast and we will see you guys later on this week.
All right, bye everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
This has been a Bobby Cast production.