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June 11, 2026 42 mins

Actor and comedian Kenan Thompson joins Bobby to talk about life behind the scenes at Saturday Night Live, from the weekly pitch process and late-night writing sessions to the hosts, musical guests and sketches he still remembers most. Kenan shares what it’s like getting recognized in public, being mistaken for Tracy Morgan and Kel, and the unspoken rules around celebrity run-ins. He also opens up about being a girl dad, the advice he has for Bobby as a new father, and why family has changed the way he looks at everything from work to showing up for his kids.

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Here we go again with Saturday Night Live not being funny,
Like we get that all the time, so we're always
kind of like battling against that. So it's never like
I did the best I could, and that's that.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Today's guest is Keenan Thompson. He's been making people laugh
for decades from The Mighty Ducks, all that Keenan and
kel Good Burger, and of course SNL where he's become
the longest tenured cast member in the show's history, Emmy
Award winner, Comedy Icon, and now he's got a kid's
book called Unfunny Bundy. I went up to New York

(00:45):
to talk to Keenan, so we got a lot to cover.
Let's get into it with Keenan Thompson. I think I
just saw Dwight Howard outside the building.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Okay, that happens. It's New York, yeah right right.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
I don't live here, so I don't know skyscraper tall. Well,
he was sitting down, and I didn't want to do
the Dwight Howard experience. I didn't want to do the
thing where I took a picture of him. Yeah, so
I took one from behind and then we compare the
tattoos to like pictures of other pictures of him. That's worse,
but he wasn't there to.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
See you just ask him.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Do you see a lot of random people in New
York just walking around?

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, if you're paying attention, But.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Do people see you walking around?

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah? I just got a big poppy shout out down
the street, so yeah, it happens.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
What's a big poppy shout out?

Speaker 1 (01:31):
I played David Ortiz on Update years ago, and it's
very popular amongst the Dominican people.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
So there's yelled big Bobby.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah. Most most Spanish people are just like yo, big
poppy man. I love it whether they're Puerto Rican or Dominican.
I mean, it's kind of like similar worlds, I guess,
so they all, you know, reference that basically as a
source of pride as far as my appearances on SNL's concerned,
it hits home for them.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Can you often tell by who's approaching you what they're
going to know you for?

Speaker 1 (02:05):
I try not to be that, like, I don't know,
I don't try not to jump the gun because you
never really never really know, you know what I mean.
Like if it's like an older, like you know, Caucasian person,
what's what's the PC turney? It was called white White Person.
You know, I don't want to just assume that it's
just asking l They might know Nickelodeon maybe because of

(02:27):
their kids or something like that, so it's it's tough
to tell. But it's just nice, I guess, for people
to recognize at all, you know what I mean, because
they could easily not care at all.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
You know, what character do you get recognized for?

Speaker 1 (02:39):
The most? I can say, it's it's all over the place.
Like I get a lot of good Burger I get
a lot of I get people that call me kill
I get a lot of Tracy Morgan, I get a
lot of like all kinds of it's all over the place,
like I definitely get you know, some ascing out things.
But you know, it's such a variety show, and I've
been doing it for so long, so lots of different

(03:00):
people have their different favorites. I guess, but you know
what's up with that gets a lot of shout outs,
and yeah, Big Poppy gets a lot of shout outs.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
I just watched Project Hell Mary. That movie felt very
inclusive to ages to where everybody can enjoy and nobody
would be offended and it's so rare to walk both
those roads. Yeah, could you watch did you see the movie?
By any chance?

Speaker 1 (03:21):
I haven't seen it yet, but I hear awesome things
and Ryan's so awesome and like that. That's been his energy,
I think since he started having kids. You know. It's
just one of those things like you want your kids
to watch your work and enjoy it, you know. It's
kind of like it just feels better when your kids
are like that, that was awesome. It's like, thank God,

(03:41):
thank you. I think I'm gonna cry.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
I forget. You know, these people, like what's Ryan Gossling
like as a performer, because he looks really funny on
the show.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
He's amazing. He's one of the nicest guys in the world.
But he's also a really strong performer, you know what
I mean. Like he's constantly trying to find like the
acting beats and stuff like that, or trying to find
his character and like make it work. It's never like
surface level approaches. Kind of like myself, like I go
towards like, you know, a face or you know, an

(04:13):
accent or a voice kind of thing, and I don't
necessarily go deep diving with like motivation necessarily if I
didn't write.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
It, you know, so can you though, because you're doing
so much I can.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
I just don't enjoy that necessarily, you know what I mean,
Like if it's too tedious, it feels like work work,
and then it's not fun. Yeah, I need it to
be fun because we spend so much time doing it,
you know, Like we spend so much time inside thirty Rock.
So if I wasn't able to like dress comfortably or

(04:43):
anything like that, I think it would be I don't
think my tenure would be as long necessarily, right.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Can you indulge me and walk me through what a
week is like on that show from Sunday up until
the show.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
I mean, su I guess before the season starts, just
like everybody's kind of like waiting on that Monday. Like
the writers come in a couple of weeks before that,
and like I think cast is welcome to do so,
but they're still kind of auditioning people, so everything is
kind of crunching down to that last moment.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
It's like voluntary workouts in NFL, Like even if you're
on you can't come in, but you don't have to,
but it looks better if you do.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Looks way better if you do, especially if you like
go out week one and you're not as prepared as
you know, someone who might be more like naturally gifted
or whatever kind of stuff. Like you just you have
to be able to show up and show why you've
been hired and why they're spending money in your direction.
So that makes sense. But it's a very tense Sunday,

(05:41):
and like the rest of the Sundays are just like rest, rest, rest,
because you've been stressing for six days kind of stuff.
But Monday starts, we have a little pitch meeting and
it's just, you know, everybody gathers in Lauren's office kind
of and goes around and pitches an idea or two
to the hosts, more.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Of the whole, the whole, all the writers.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Writers and cast people sitting on the floor. You know.
It's like the size of this room basically like a
little smaller and everybody's just cramped in and it's like
very old school kind of thing, you know. It's like
a very old school like it feels like how the
East Coast built the country and everything moved west and
got a little more spread out, So like the whole
East coast. Everybody was on top of everything at the

(06:21):
same time, like all right, we're going to build a railroad, Like, well,
I need a job. I need a job. I need
a job, you know what I mean, Like, oh, we're
building Broadway. It's like, well, I can dance, I can sing,
I can do you know what I mean. It's like
everybody's like inside the area of opportunity. So if you're
in the room, you're feeling like very lucky, but you
still have to perform and try to get a laugh
out of a room full of genius comedic minds and

(06:44):
performers and stuff like that. So it's stressful. The stress
kind of starts right away and you're pitching to somebody
hyper famous, and that's hyper having a like hyper famous
moment as well. So yeah, it's crazy, but it's only
like thirty minutes kind of thing, and then you can
start right or you can go home. And Tuesday night
is the real writing night because the deadline is Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Morning deadline for what like fully fleshed out.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
The deadline for the table read, So yeah, it has
to be fleshed out, typed up, turned in and all
of that before like ten am eleven am or something
because the table read is at like four pm or
something that day on Wednesday, So that's where like people
spend the night looking for ideas and stuff because there's
no real timeline. You don't have to do that. Like

(07:30):
Chris Rock used to come in at like noon and
be out by like nine or ten kind of things.
So it's basically up to the individual. But that was
like the legacy of the show is like, oh, the
late night craziness, you know what I mean, and the
late night craziness. But these days it's like, you know,
it all depends on the person. So like once I

(07:51):
got married and started having kids and stuff, like I
used to start leaving like earlier because you know, I
just wanted to have more less of a scrambled brain.
I guess mornings kind of thing because you know, all
the single people, they can sleep all day till two
thirty if they want to kind of thing. But people responsibility.
You gotta get up in the morning. So yeah, Tuesday
can be a long day. Wednesday's long table read. You

(08:13):
know we read like forty five is you know, forty
forty five. It used to be like fifty kind of sketches.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Fifty sketches.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yeah, they only pick eight to kind of mess with,
and now nowadays some of those will turn into pretape,
so it's like down to like four or five live
sketches in the show now, So like the competition is
pretty stiff, kind of always kind.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
That's the question about the sketches. So when you're doing that,
I have read studies about you want to go if
you're in front of a judge, you want to be
in the morning. You don't want to be near lunch,
don't want to be near the end of the day.
You also want to be earlier in the week. Like
when I hear sketches there's forty five, fifty, I don't
want to be number thirty nine.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, man, placement is you know, they try to make
it like you know placement. You know, don't really look
too far into it because if the sketch is strong,
it'll be strong if it's number two or number forty
like kind of thing, And they try to tell us like,
don't read too far into it. That being said, by

(09:17):
the time you're reading like thirty seven, you're kind of
ready to stop reading these catches and you're not as participatory.
But the truth is in the lapse. So if like,
if it's something clever enough and it just lights up
the room, it is what it is. Kind of thing
most musical numbers, like in the halves, we do it
in two halves, so a lot of time they'll do
like a musical number to end the first half on

(09:38):
high energy, and then they'll in the read probably with
a musical number and hopefully it goes well kind of stuff,
and then everything in between is kind of like, man,
bring bring it bro Like you're also like, we're not
just like doing like community theater, like this is Saturday
Night Live, you know, so like everything, everybody's supposed to
be writing, it should be the most hilarious thing you've

(09:58):
ever attempted in theory, you know. But at the same time,
sometimes you write something that's just funny to you and
you don't realize that until you read it out loud.
In kind of a more of a like nondescript group
setting kind of thing, like this person's from that place,
this person's that age, you know what I mean, it's
just more random and you see what happens in random

(10:19):
environments with your what you think is funny ten pages
kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Would there ever be a competition element where people don't
want to laugh because it shines a light on somebody
else and they're fighting for their own.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
I don't know if anyone is not necessarily participating for
the sake of just participating for themselves. I think everybody
is under the gun together, and I think that energy
allows us to cheer for each other because we all
know it's just very stressful, and it's also it's very emotional,

(10:53):
you know what I mean, Like you're just opening yourself
up to like ridicule just for the sake of like
I had this kind of funny idea I thought, and
it's like, instead of it not being celebrated, it's like, oh,
you missed the market kind of here's why. And you're
in an environment where people can kind of help you
reach the target you want to reach because you're just
surrounded by brilliant writers and they can tell you like, oh,

(11:16):
this is kind of where it went left for me,
or I didn't get this reference or blah blah blah,
and you can like learn how to like, yeah, hit
the target.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Can you repair a sketch that didn't go well and
bring it back weeks later?

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yeah? People do resentments and kind of all the time,
I would say that the ratio of recments working is
pretty low unless the idea was strong and it just
got cut for time or whatever kind of reasons it
was wrong host or something. Sometimes different hosts fit things better.
But yeah, it's rare that once someone's heard something once

(11:52):
that they have a sharper response when they hear it
the second time. So you have to switch it up
in some sort of way to make it, you know,
a little bit better. But some people try things three
and four times, you know, they just they keep chipping
at it because they feel like there was something there
in the beginning that was making them laugh so hard
that they just don't want to give up on it.

(12:12):
And there's so many different factors of why things make
the show and why they might get cut kind of stuff,
so it's hard to predict what exactly happened each time
until you get to like the third time and it's like,
all right, well, maybe this isn't really for this kind
of thing, Like maybe it's not for this show, or
maybe it's not for this kind of like East Coast

(12:35):
minded audience or whatever kind of shit.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Do you remember the first sketch that you ever pitched
that got picked up, got used.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
No, I wish I did, but because.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
I feel like they'd be like losing your virginity.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah, I remember kind of like the first idea that
I had that actually made it onto the show, which
was Scared Straight And shout out to Colin Jokes, who
was my office made at the time. We wrote that
one together. But that was a coming together of you know,
someone who had like a silly idea and an actual

(13:18):
writer who can make it like into a sketch for
television kind of thing for that show even kind of stuff.
So yeah, it was that was like in my fifth
year though, you know what I mean. I had done
you know, other kind of sketches where I was a lead,
but they were written by you know, other people. So yeah,
that was a definitely like oh okay, I feel like

(13:39):
I can relax and I actually can participate here, like
I think I'm smart enough, I just have to do
it kind of like that, and it unlocked a lot
of like creative writing skills that I didn't take those
classes for, you know kind of things like I didn't
go to college for creative writing, so those skills like
to learn on the fly was nice.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Do you keep a list in your phone of ideas
if you get them randomly?

Speaker 1 (14:04):
M just like a note app, Yeah, because they come
and go, you know, like, and if you don't write
them down, you won't remember. It's just especially for sketches,
like the reference material is in so many different directions.
You'll never get back to that thought process that brought
you to that idea necessarily unless you really really retrace

(14:26):
your steps really like not too long after you've had
the idea and forgot about it. It's like, oh snap,
I just like, what was that idea I had this morning?
It's like, okay, what is this? And I was thinking
about that which led me to this, which led me
to that. You know, it's like a long fucking blockchain.
So if you don't write it down right away, it's
just like going to the ether. And that's tough because

(14:47):
it's like, I feel like a lot of these, you know,
ideas are kind of God's end, you know what I mean.
You don't want to like just drop your gifts on
the floor kind of stuff. So yeah, writing it downhilps.
So Friday then is Thursday and Friday when thursdays when
rehearsal starts. Thursday's kind of a more chill day because
this is New York. So we store our sets, our

(15:07):
larger sets in Brooklyn, you know, so they have to
like load them out of Brooklyn and get them into
the city with this permit and all of this and
blah blah blah. It takes a full day. So we
usually just do sketches like this if somebody's just like
having a chat or like a you know, a sports desk,
you know, anything kind of like that doesn't need a
full set yet, and then usually out of there about

(15:31):
like eight ish and started around one or two, so
it's like a six hour day as opposed to Friday,
which can be man if you're booking it, like if
you're in the early pre taping in the Cold Open,
that's a seven am picked up and a midnight dismissal
or after the Cold Opening kind of thing. So Friday
can be pretty gruesome sometimes if you're you know, catching that,

(15:55):
like you know, some people used to catch it to
where they were like like Bobby Morning and I used
to talk about, well we were talking like recently because
we're in a celebrity autobiography on Broadway now and we
did Open the Night together, and we were reminiscent about
how sometimes he wouldn't even get a chance to come
into the studio on Fridays because he would be in
all three pretapes, so he'd just be in pre tape world.

(16:19):
And like when they were doing three pre tapes back then,
that night pretape could go till six in the morning
or something on Saturday, so it's like a twenty four
hour day. I think he did like a twenty four
hour day and then like never went home. He just
came back to thirty Rock or something for Saturday because
we're in by like noon or something like that. Like, yeah,

(16:39):
it can be pretty gnarly as the week goes on,
and then Saturday is a super long day like noon
to one thirty, and it just it is what it is.
You try to find your little naps when you can
or not if you're just young and I hate you,
But yeah, it's fantastic because is for some reason, the

(17:01):
job always gets done and the adrenaline kicks in and
it's just like, man, the the dump of energy at
the end of the night is just so wild and crazy.
You know that calm down even if you had a
bad night it's like, man made it through the week
and you only got one day to turn it around,
and you're back on Monday a new idea and starting fresh,

(17:23):
you know, so there's not a lot of time to
celebrate or you know kind of like wallowing misery. You know.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Have you ever been really sick, Yeah, and had to
just fight through it because you had a pivotal role.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Sick, broken arms, Like yeah, just kind of like get
it done. Like I got married on a Friday and
had to do the show on a Saturday and then
went back home. Like I got married in Atlanta on
Friday and came back, did the show on Saturday, and
then went back and saw everybody off on Sunday kind
of stuff. So all that kind of like life compromise.

(17:56):
You know when you're when you're working.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
There, you still enjoyed every week.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, I mean it's up and down depending on you know,
as the week goes by, but the overall experience, it's
a special place. It's a one of a kind job
as well kind of thing. And I like kind of
doing it once and letting it go, you know, like
we did an episode of the Studio. I don't know
if I'm supposed to spoil it. But it was interesting

(18:22):
to watch the difference between doing a million takes and
doing one take, you know what I'm saying. And I
feel like I like them both, but it's definitely much
more cumbersome to do a lot of takes, like because
you want to take the time and find it and
get it right and not necessarily rush it because sometimes

(18:44):
an idea come to you after take seventeen, you know,
and it's like, man's it's worth phishing for that every
single time. And there's something kind of like relieving about
it was live and we did the best we could
and blah blah blah blah blah, you know what I mean.
But at the same time, weeks and weeks and weeks

(19:05):
of that, like the critics are going to be on
your neck, like, yeah, I know it's live, but y'all,
motherfucker's been wasting five days with mediocre writing, like y'all
could have done you know, all these other kind of
like touch ups along the way or what's going on
or you know, here we go again with Saturday Night
Live not being funny, and like we get that all
the time, so we're always kind of like battling against that.

(19:26):
So it's never like, oh, I just I did the
best I could and that's that. But that element of like,
hey man, it was live and that's in the past.
Like I kind of like that like lightness about it.
You just gotta let it go.

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Speaker 2 (20:01):
Do people do good Burger that to you?

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah? Yeah, it was an interesting conversation. I was at
like a trampoline place with my kids over the weekend
and it was just like, do the good Burger line.
I was like, it's not my line? Yeah it is.
I'm like, am I really going back and forth with
this person about I should have just said it and
it would have been over kind of thing. But you know,

(20:25):
sometimes I'm a stickler for the facts.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
So you didn't do the kel line. You just integrity.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
I think the conversation just fizzled and I didn't have
to do it, basically, like I think the person turned
around and walked away. Basically It's funny, but yeah, most
of the time I just do it. But that time,
I was like, because they were pressing me, like do
your line from the movie you know the welcome. I'm like, well,
that's not my line, you know what I mean? Sue me.

(20:52):
I guess for being a stickler for the facts. I guess.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Will you jump at the trampoline park?

Speaker 1 (20:57):
If you go, No, I'm beyond those you. I'm behind
those kneecapped spinal cord years. Anybody like to play the games?

Speaker 2 (21:06):
What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Like the arcade games? I got stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Any of my adult friends to go and they jump,
it's only one time. They never jump again because something
either gets torn.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Or Yeah, you gotta like be used to jumping. You know,
kids are used to jumping and stuff like that, so
I think they're like more fortified. Like if you haven't
been on a trampoline or been jumping up and down
in four years, you know what I mean. You can't
just get out there like that, Like it's very dangerous.
You saw Rick Ross on the diving board, you know
what I mean? Like, it's real.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
How many kids? You have?

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Two girls?

Speaker 2 (21:38):
I just had a girl, baby girl, ten weeks ago. Congratulations,
first first kid ever. Yes, so you haven't slept in
ten weeks? Yeah, well longer than that, I would say, Yeah,
that last.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Month is hard.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Yeah, so what what congratulations?

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Man?

Speaker 2 (21:55):
What do I that's her name and it's Billy been
named after her grandpa. My wife's fantastic.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Yeah, good dude, fair Yeah yeah, we can edit all
of these things to make it seem nice. That's funny.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
What's it been like with girls? Like, give me, give
me some tips here.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
I mean, you know, kids is the best thing you'll
ever do, especially like for dudes. I think having a
girl straighten you up a little quicker kind of thing.
Like boys, you want them to be a little more like, yeah,
just fall down, you know, kind of bump your head
and you know, get stronger. I guess, like don't bump
your head, but you know a couple of little like

(22:33):
scrapes and stuff, like you want your kid to toughen
up kind of thing. With girls, I think you just
kick into high gear protection mode and like, you know,
just want to make sure you're taking care of everything, like,
you know, do we have enough money for dinner kind
of stuff? You know, just like bare minimum kind of
you know things. But yeah, that that protective and kind

(22:56):
of like provider energy, you know, kicks in pretty strong.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
I feel like it's softened to me a bit. And
again it's only been ten weeks right now, but I
do feel like even I never even held a baby
until this baby. Maybe one for a second, like a
nephew hold this type thing, but I never like held
a baby. Yeah yeah, and so but I just feel
like if it were a boy, I think I'd be
a little more rigid. Like this boy with a girl.

(23:22):
I think I just there's something.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
It's still a baby, but you know, like, yeah, you
get it. It's very tender, it's very precious. All those
words start coming in, you know, precious, tender, cute, sweet,
you know what I mean. Like, you know what I
see them.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
I see like women now and I'm like, that's somebody's daughter.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
I never thought.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
About that, Yeah until like tiny little baby daughter at
some point.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, and it's like that's somebody's daughter.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Like show a little respect.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Yes, that's exactly what it is. I like to think
I'm respectful.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Anyway, you're going to start hating male energy pretty soon.
You're going to start hating anybody like that's just like yo,
she was, It's like, I hate you.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
That's somebody's daughter.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Yeah, somebody showed some respect.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, I'm having that.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Cora's man that's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Thank you. My wife text me, she's like, you can
be home tonight. It's like I am, and so I
would love to be. Yes, I will. I cannot wait
to be home. I'm trying to get home by bath time. Yeah, man,
which is eight pm.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
You're in it. If you can make that your life,
I think that's that's the sweet life, because when they
get older, they remember those times, they remember you being
there constantly, and they want to be there for you
in your old, older selling days. There they're coming. Stay
away from the trampolines.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Look quicker if you're the trampoline part. I'm saying, So
you did a kid's book. It's great, by the way,
un funny bunny.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Thank you, Yeah, thank you very much. Why why you know?
I want to do something, you know, for my girls
while they're still young, that they can you know, be
happy and you know, pass around or you know, have
the experience that you know, their friends come up to
them at school is like, oh, my dad wrote that book,
so like cool points for dad kind of thing, but
also like I love the kids face. You know, I

(25:07):
grew up doing kids stuff. And a lot of my
colleagues have written kids books, So it seemed like a
natural next step after a memoir kind of thing. So
I did my memoir and then it was just like,
you know, what other books would I like to write?
Like I'm not you know, a super duper you know author,
Like I don't want to do like fiction necessarily and.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Write no novel.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
You know, I don't have a lion, the witch and
the itch kind of itch. But you know, I do enjoy,
you know, the possibilities in the in the kid realm,
because you know, a book can turn into a cartoon,
it can turn into toothbrush and toothpastes and like you know,
live shows and stuff like that. It's just so much

(25:50):
like possibilities in that realm without you know, the stakes
being too high, you know, or just not fun you know.
So it seems like whatever insure as we go down
with the unfunny bunny, it'll be just fun in the making,
you know, and it won't really matter as far as
like how successful it might become or not kind of thing.

(26:11):
It'll be fun along the way, and I think that'll
be my victories.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Whenever you were picking the illustrator you're working with, did
you see different versions of the drawings and like pick
whatever felt like the yst to like your mind of
what you picture to look like.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
I think so. And like I saw some really great ones,
like you know, kind of abstract kind of people that
like draw more abstract kind of drawings, and those were
really really cool, but it wasn't the tone of this.
I think the tone of this was just more like,
you know, sorry, like broad and like you know, colorful
and like round faces and you know, kind of like
the the Pixar approach where everybody's kind of like, you know,

(26:50):
rosy cheeked a little bit.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Your kids like it.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
They love it. Yeah, they thought it was like really,
my big girl said it was really sweet, which is
nice because you know, she in middle school. Now shit's
getting treacherous. So for her to use the word suite,
that was a big That was a big win.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
What's middle school like for a dad? Like, what's happening? Now?

Speaker 1 (27:11):
You're just on call? Man? There's nothing you can really do,
you know what I mean, except for just be the
support system and call the meeting, like if there needs
to be a meeting with you know, another parent or
you know, a counselor or a principal, kind of thing.
But as far as like intervening, like those days are
kind of done. You can't just like put hands on
people anymore, you know what. You really have to like

(27:32):
just be the responsible adult and kind of always have
that mindset of like boundaries are important, you know what
I mean, and like know that you have a support
system and you're not just alone. So if anybody's being
bullied or you know, parrassed or anything, you don't just
have to take it, you know what I mean. You
can speak up and be like, this isn't making me comfortable,

(27:55):
and it's up to us adults in the village to
kind of squash whatever negativity. You kind of can or
you know, change the scenario if you have to basically
like pull them out of that school if that needs
to happen kind of thing, if things get too drastic
or whatever. But you're basically just on call and choufeuring.
You know.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Is it odd to be a celebrity parent?

Speaker 1 (28:19):
I guess because I don't know. People just don't allow
you to be a person at first kind of thing,
which is not their fault, you know what I mean.
They're processing a lot. It's like, Okay, I've seen you
somewhere and now I'm seeing you in person all the time.
And however they you know, adjust to that varies kind

(28:40):
of thing. Some people see it as an opportunity for fundraising,
some people see it as a new friend.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Some people see, I bet you get hit up for
that stuff or it at least did, right, Like I bet.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yeah. I mean, schools need funds, especially in this administration.
They're cutting you know, all kind of programs and stuff
like that, so fundraisers have been you know, a real
kind of like lifeline for a lot of like public schools.
But yeah, it's fine. I mean, it's the same thing.
If you go to a new church, you know, like
it's a celebrity, they'll be like, oh, you want to
come to our church, Well, we want to build a

(29:13):
new wing and we're trying to raise money for that.
So it'd be nice if you were just aware and
just want to contribute whatever it is. So whenever I
go to the new church, it's like a one time thing,
so it doesn't get too you know, fundraising and distracting
from the healing of why you go to church, you
know what I mean. You go to church with fellowship
and to reset your week or your intentions or whatever,

(29:37):
and yeah, put a little sum in the pot for
the people. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
I feel like when they're passing the plate, everybody's looking
at you to see if you put one hundred dollars.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Yeah, yeah, a little bit, but you know, I like
to oblige, like I understand, you know what I mean.
Like I grew up, you know, very humble beginnings, especially
my parents. You know, small town Virginia and you know,
small churches, and it was all about the community coming
together and everybody even what they can to keep the
church going. You know, yes, it's it's tax free, but

(30:04):
you know, pastor got to eat, pastor gotta have gas
to get back and forth back and forth to church
every day and stuff like that. And that's you know, well,
we take a collection so we can keep the lights on.
I get it. And then as you grow up you
start to see that that's a kind of a constant,
you know, like each church has its bills and that's

(30:25):
just what it is. So did you enjoy the music,
did you enjoy the fellowship? Well, you know, leave a
little something. It would be appreciating and it would help
us out a lot, I guess, going towards the rent's
probably too damn high, you know what I mean. That's
still the same and that got called that man. He
called that back in six seven.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
People still say, what, I grew up in a real
town in Arkansas, and so it was, well there was.
I grew up in a town that had a railroad track.
White people, white people. Yeah, white church, black church, and
so I go to white church three weeks, I go

(31:06):
to black church one week. And what I liked about
white church is we started at ten and we got
out of noon.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
What was hard about Black church was we started six.
We started whenever everybody kind of got there, and then
we didn't stop.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
We started with the roosters, yes, and then we having dinner.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
It went till the spirit was tired.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
What I liked about Black church was food. Yeah, like
great every every time, Like you stayed longer, but you
ate a lot better. We didn't really have that at
White Church.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Interesting, that's funny, Like I think in the South in general, though,
they made it a thing where you just like go
to church and you go eat kind of thing like
Black church, like everybody cooks because the money is probably
scarce in the origins of that culture, you know. But yeah,
that's why I like the gym Stones. You know, there's
so many moments where they're pulling up to the restaurant

(32:00):
and that's just like their weekly thing, and I relate
to that.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Yeah, they would bring and have like a pot like
every week because again not White church. Yeah, white church,
you don't have any food unless it's like a but you.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Go get it, yeah, because they're able to go get it.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Yeah, and Black Church is awesome. It took like four
hours to get to it, but the food was was awesome.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Yeah, and God bless those ladies or those do whoever
putting their hands on it and made it happen. Like,
you know, they took pride in that. You know, they
took pride and watching somebody eat their potato salad. You know,
they're just smiling in the corner like you know, somebody's
somebody's carrot salad isn't being isn't being eaten, and that's
going to be you know, fodder for humor for the

(32:41):
rest of the week kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
There is a pressure always can't cook she made that
carrot salad. There's a pressure to make sure everybody's stuff
is touched because You don't want anybody's dish to sit
there and look fresh. When everybody else's dishes.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Are not, something's wrong.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
So even if it doesn't look that good, you take
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
You gotta be well, that's for the kids. The adults
are just like, now, I'm not going to do that,
but yeah, man, God bless like communities. Man. Like, That's
why I do so much, like Back to the Kids book, Like,
I do a lot of like family friendly things because
I want those like everybody gather around moments, because that's

(33:21):
just how I grew up, you know, like a lot
of us cousins, you know, whenever we went back to
you know, my parents kind of stopping grounds, you know,
all of a sudden there was ten twelve, fifteen cousins
deep kind of stuff and everything we did for the
whole summer, and I just I love those times. So
you had to watch kind of kid appropriate programming or

(33:43):
kid appropriate songs and stuff like that, and it was
just great to spend time with, you know, your great
grands if they were around on their like last times,
and they just give you a little tidbit of a
story of something that you know might give you a
little more insight on who you are, where you come from,
whatever kind of stuff, And I like to continue those moments.

(34:07):
Like it feels like these days everything's so much more
splintered because everything can be catered to the individual, you
know what I mean. So it's not you know, there's
not that much kind of like just family friendly, like
everybody come watch it. It's kind of rare. So like
when me and kel start doing stuff, we're going to

(34:29):
be aiming towards that kind of like you know, engagement basically,
like we want grandma and granddad to come as well
and also feel entertained, not just feel like they're chaperoning basically,
you know, like Nickelodeon was kind of good at like
you know, pushing that envelope a little bit to where
everybody could like feel titillated in some sort of way.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
The Bobby Cast will be right back. Welcome back to
the Bobby Cast. I just watched the Martin short documentary Lovely.

(35:09):
He seems like the loveliest guy.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
I never met him.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
He's the greatest.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, what's he like?

Speaker 1 (35:13):
For real? Fantastic, insanely funny, always down to like he's
one of those people that likes to do the like
joke discovery always like looking for some funny He's an improver,
so like he's looking for you to say something that
he can rebut or he's just gonna like say something
funny regardless, and he would love for the exchange to

(35:36):
be humorous kind of thing, Like he doesn't want to
just say something funny and then we get back to
the news kind of shit, Like he would like to
have a good time. And I understand that there's a
lot of you know, comics that are like that that
would much more prefer to talk in funny for him
as opposed to just natural conversation. And Martin's definitely one

(35:58):
of those guys. He's just yes, he could talk normal,
but he's more so of the like approach of like
why just talk normal, Why not like have an incredible
time or laugh or be around brilliant people that will
inspire you to think towards funny things. And that's great.
He's one of the greatest.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
I watched it, and I could tell that the people
talking about him genuinely loved him.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Absolutely without question, because he's not an asshole, you know
what I mean. Like he's one of the kindest like
people in the world on top of being super duper funny.
You know, he's very welcoming and you know he's very
like I think, you know, he thinks he's very handsome
as well, you know what I mean, Like he's very

(36:45):
I see him like checking himself out in the mirror,
and like if you watch him like walk down the
hallway by himself, he has like a little swag to him.
I'm like, okay, Like Mark Short thinks he's the shit
and he's not wrong. But it's interesting to always catch
people and like real moments and you see their real self.
Was like, oh yeah, Martin thinks he's a stud and

(37:06):
you know, look at him. He's got fucking Meryl Streep
out here.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
I had three final questions for you who came in
to host, and you were kind of blown away at
just how versatile they were and you weren't expecting it.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
I mean, there's a there's a lot, there's a like
Lizzo comes to mind because she was just on Eddie
Murphy's back. Like Adie Murphy was so tickled by Lizzo
when we were doing the promos and then she came
and hosted. Then she did a great job. So like
that was a nice surprising one Forrest Whitaker did a

(37:42):
great job. He did an incredible job, and I thought
he was going to be a little more sinister because
my experience with him was very sinister. But yeah, who else,
Like just so many people.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
There are the athletes that came in and you're like,
oh man, they actually Peyton is the one.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
May not think he's the one that showed everybody. It's like,
oh shit, athletes can be really funny. I think he's
everybody's favorite. And then there's always a surprising other side
of the coin where like somebody comes in and they
just like completely don't enjoy their time there. Kind of
thing Like I think like Michael Phelps had like a
tough week or something. He just seemed like he wasn't
into it kind of thing or whatever and would much

(38:21):
rather just kind of like be behind the scenes and
just chill. But you know, he was having such an
explosive time. People wanted him to be like, you know,
a mega like TV star, commercial guy or whatever, and
I think he just wasn't into it like that nice guy,
and I think he was nice to everybody. I just
don't think he had fun performing necessarily so those dynamics

(38:43):
are very interesting. You know, Charles Barkley's one of the
best kind of things just because he don't want to work,
that's it. You just want to have a good time
and like you don't give you like two hours before
he starts to get distracted basically, So he's great.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Any musical acts have come in that you were geeked
out about seeing a meeting.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yeah, we had outcasts my first year. That was incredible
because those guys went to my high school and I've
been a lifelong fan of those guys for sure, So
for them to come in in like my first season,
I think it was like the third episode or something
like that, and they were having such a crazy moment
as well, with like hey, y'all, you know what I mean,
it was like their biggest record ever and like it
was as big as they've ever been. Yeah, that was

(39:24):
an amazing week.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Do you go tell them like, NOA, NOA. I knew
you guys that like stink on you, like I've been
with you forever.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
I'm always cornering them like I courted them at their
studio and be like y'all don't understand man the greatest
and they don't that shit. They've heard it a million times, like,
but I got to tell you me personally. I got
to tell you what you mean to me. They were great.
And you know, anytime like a Paul McCartney comes around,
it's always kind of crazy. It's like, bro, that dude
is like number one legendary but number two upwards in

(39:55):
years and he's still out here like doing it big.
Like he played like three songs after the show went
off kind of thing and then partied into the night.
You know what I mean. It's just sitting there with
Steven Spielberg and like all these people like that, and
that was crazy, bro, It's literally crazy.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Are there rules on pictures or autographs? Are there what
like rule unspoken rules like could you take Paul McCartney
a guitar and say, hey, would you sign this for me?

Speaker 1 (40:18):
I don't think so. I think there's kind of like
an air of if you want that, there's certain people
that you give that too, to ask for those permissions.
I think, especially with like those kinds of levels of people,
you know, it's usually the musical guess is someone that's
like really really really famous, like actors are chill, you

(40:39):
know what I mean, like we're there and like we
have so much time with them that if you want
to like get something signed by them, you probably would
build a relationship through the week to where you would
feel comfortable asking that. But the musical guess is and
someone that's like in a hyper famous mode and they
always have security and you know what I mean, it's
just a bigger thing. So you always feel you naturally

(41:01):
feel like you should ask the handlers. Would it be
okay if I got an audition, or can I bring
my kids to watch the rehearsal or whatever, as opposed
to like asking them directly kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Final question, what do you want your kids to like
remember you for?

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Remember me for being awesome? You know in all the ways.
Like it's kind of like where why I wear sunglasses
all the time. I just want to be remembered as
as being cool, you know, but yeah, no, like awesome.
You know underneath that umbrella is cool, responsible, loving, you know,

(41:36):
just a good natured person, giving kind of thing, Like
everything that you would put in that awesome.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Box basically congratulations on the book.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Thank you man. It's a good time, and I think
it stands out because there's you know, jokes in the
back and you know they're they're good dad jokes, which
are good bad jokes, and like it's a good time.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
It felt a little shreky in a good way. Like
there are jokes that I don't think you would get
it if you're six, that you get if you're an adult,
and it's you know, there's some I have a hundred
kids books at the house now and a lot of
them are just right for the kids, and you're like,
oh my god, I can't do another.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
One, And this one is like something that you can
read and enjoy as an adult because reading with your.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Child that I really appreciate the time.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Thanks you, my pleasure man, Thank you.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
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