Country star Russell Dickerson sits down with Bobby to talk about the point in his career when he honestly thought it might all be over, and how things turned from doubt into momentum. He shares the story behind his collaboration with Fetty Wap, what it was like gambling with the Jonas Brothers, and how his life on the road looks a lot different now that his family is out there with him. Russell also talks about going to school with members of Florida Georgia Line, the secret behind his famously jacked arms, and how his perspective on success, touring, and family has changed over the years. It’s a fun conversation with stories from every era of his journey, plus a look at how he balances career, confidence, and family life now.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Right before Happened to Me end of twenty four, I
was like, I might be done.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Today's guest is one of the most positive people I know,
Russell Dickerson. He's had number one songs like Yours and
Blue Tacoma, Love You like I used to God Gave
Me a Girl, and then Happens to Me, which was massive.
Recently he's racked up nearly four billion streams. Big energy,
(00:35):
big heart, a whole lot of fun, like one of
my favorite people. He's back now with new music, including
the song Boots with Fettiwop, which we talk about, and
he's got a new EP and he's going out on
the Russell Mania tour. Here he is Russell Dickerson, Russell,
good to see you, buddy, Hey baby, your arms like huge,
thank you's I saw you come in. It's like, dang,
(00:57):
what do you do?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Dang I do?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
It's like my there's a podcast called mind Pump and
they got programs, all kinds of programs, and I just
picked one.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
It's called Aesthetic.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I was like, yeah, like I'm on stage, I would
like to look jacked. And it's just three days a week,
probably forty five minutes.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
It's a podcast. Yeah, so you listen to it what
they tell you.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
No, no, no. They have programs like PDFs, so you
just like buy the PDF. And I'm just I've just
been doing that for like three years.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Just slow and steady.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Was that a conscious effort to get yourself in better shait?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Why?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Just to be in better shape, just to be thicker.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I feel like I look back and like three years ago,
I thought I was like fairly pretty jacked. I was like, no,
I was, I was. I was scrawny, and I just
have always had that frame.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I had a kid recently, and so when we had
the baby, I don't work out forever. I understand how
people get dad bods, because it's just like you work
all day, then you get home and you complain about
working all day. But then also you gotta constantly watch
a baby. And so I've just now got back into it.
But like having a baby, like, I have new respect
(02:17):
for all the people that weren't working out that I
was like, come on, you got it, there's no time, right, Yeah,
there's things are constant, have you you know those those things?
Babies got two of them, they're constant.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Yeah, and you get you got to beat them you
got to beat them. To the Punch in the morning.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I'm glad you said to the Punch in the morning,
there's a weird, weird pause after you gotta beat them.
I didn't know where you have to beat them? Yeah,
to the Punch in the morning. Yes, you have to
beat them. I saw a fun video that said I
think your wife had posted it where it was when
(02:52):
you know your kid is like a tour kid. You
see your oldest Does he go on the road with
you a lot?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
They both probably.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
When like when the bus picks us up at the
house and drops us off at the house, we'll bring
them out. But if we got to like fly, you
know and everything, we'll just leave them.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
How do they do on the bus?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
So good? They love it.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
They got their little bunks, zip them in, we got
we got the bounce house under the bus. We got
their little bikes, you know, so they just do you.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Have a family bus now that's just you guys when
you go off man.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, we had one for a couple of years and
then it expanded into we need more people, but can't
afford another bus yet, you know. So it was like
there was a year where we didn't have that and
now it's finally back to we got another one, No One.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
You're making good money though now too, right, I mean
I mean as I know what, I know what. You're
selling a lot of tickets. Yeah that's cool. Yeah, like
you're making good money now right, I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
That's what's good. What is good money. It's all going
into our house, I'll tell you that. So it's it's
just it's as soon as it's it's gone, that's what
it feels like.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
But you're making good money, meaning after you pay for
all the overhead, they're still a comfortable amount left. Yeah,
that's the best place to be.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
We're making comfortable.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I saw your show, the one you did, I think
it was in Michigan.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Grand Rapids thing was huge, huge.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
He said it was the biggest show you'd ever sold.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yeah, yeah, that was crazy.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
How many tickets?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
About eleven thousand?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
That's wild, Yeah, in an awesome way. I don't mean
that as an insult, like that's that's really why that's
really awesome it is, but.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Also it is it's awesome and it is wild, like
it feels.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Like it's not me. I'm like, are you sure you
got the right concert? Because like, for fifteen years, it's
been just twenty five people, fifty people, one hundred, one thousand,
you know. And the one of the posts we did
was like, hey, we kept coming back to the same
venue for five years, you know what I mean, the
(05:08):
same venue twenty Monroe came back the next year, came
back two.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Years later, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
It's always that venue. And then for some reason, boom
eleven thousand.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
What if there were like three thousand people that thought
they were coming to WrestleMania and they're.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Like, where's Cody Rhodes? Is an empty block? The heck,
where's the ring?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, it's really cool to see. I've told you this
privately too, but it's rare to see people do it
at their trajectory. You're doing it because my version of
your career is, here's a guy he did what people
didn't think. He got a song and it popped, Great job,
(05:59):
got a second song. Okay, well that's pretty much that's
where it's gonna last. He's right, there's like then you
hit a new level and then usually you're like, okay,
everybody just kind of classifies you as that mid mid
kind of artist, and you're doing your own shows. For sure,
and you're headlining, and but rarely does it pop to
that next level after that long because like you said,
(06:20):
you've been grinding for fifteen years. It's like there is
a new new version of you that's even bigger that
usually you don't see people grow out of after your
five or six When I say that, is that the
version in your mind?
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Totally.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I mean up right before happened to me end of
twenty four, I was like, you know, without getting overly spiritual,
I was just like, God, I think I'm I might
be done. Like what am I doing? I feel like
I'm just like spinning. I feel like I'm on a
treadmill and I'm like sprinting, but like I'm not co
(07:00):
one anywhere. I'm working so hard, nothing like Where's because
I feel like he gave me this dream of kind
of where it is now?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Like when is it enough?
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Like that is eleven thousand packed into an amphitheater. I'll
be happy for the rest of my career. That's great,
But you know what I mean, Like I was where
I was like, where is this? I feel like I'm
stuck same thing, same club, same venues, over and over
year after year.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
What it like you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Well, it's not just you. I've just seen that plateau
happen at a By the way, if it happened to
me never happens to you, that's funny. But if it
never happens to you, you had a freaking awesome career. Yeah,
like one that ninety nine point eight percent of every
artist would dream of having. And I've just seen so
many times when people get to that great spot and
(07:50):
they've got a few number ones, they can torn at
the rest of their life be comfortable and that's it,
that's their plateau. Yeah, but something's happened to you that
I haven't seen happen here in my fifteen years in
ten on where it's like boom stealing popped you again yea,
and again I've told you. I'm not just telling you
that here. I've told you that even privately. But it's
been really cool to see. And I think now you
(08:12):
should be in consideration for that mailed Artist of the Year,
even the Entertainer of the Year type conversation. And those
are the conversations people have to talk about you in
before you actually get in them. True, but it's so
hard to have people recognize you for that whenever they
know you. It's kind of intern syndrome, meaning if you
intern into business and you raise up to the ranks,
(08:33):
even if you're freaking second in command, the CEO still
knows you as an intern.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
That's so on the button, dude, because I mean I
grew up here and like I feel like Nashville's little brother.
That's exactly what it feels, you know. It's like, oh, yeah,
little Russell. I remember when he brought me his first song.
You know, I remember he was like he was hopping
around town, you.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Know, trying to get a deal, trying to do this,
trying to do that.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
It's like little Russell, little Russell syndrome.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Little Russell who paid five bucks first starts video that
went big? How crazy good for him? Yeah, he really
made it. Yeah, and yeah, that's a hard, hard thing
to shake. I mean I've had that issue with just
like the radio guy. Dude. I've had like four TV
shows I got to Netflix day. It's like, but then
the people that knew me when I just came to town,
they're like, Oh, there's the trouble maker radio guy. He
(09:24):
just it's really cool to see and I hope people
start to recognize like your body of work, because it's
hard to rerecognize somebody like again when you know him
for Little Russell. Yeah, it's hard to see, like dude
selling out nine ten, eleven thousand seat venues like Happened
to Me was massive, But I was already feeling like
(09:44):
it was doing a little bit of that before that song,
Like I was really feeling like yeah, and again I'm
not just saying this in front of you here, but
like I've always believed in your kid. Yeah that song?
What was the deal with the song?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Was that?
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Dude? Why'd you cut it? Did you know that it
was gonna be? Was it all viral? That launched? Like
for people to see it because you did some really
funny videos?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah, I mean happened to me honestly?
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Was we sat on it for We wrote it in
twenty twenty three and it didn't come out till twenty five.
Did you not think it was special? I thought it
was a No, Honestly, I thought it was like a
fun song. We'll do it live definitely going on. The
album could be a single maybe you know, one single,
(10:33):
two or something, but uh, it honestly just so happened
to be like, okay, we all kind of agreed that
that was going to be the first instant grat track
off the album. How they do target exclusive back in
the day. Yeah, and so I was like, all right, cool,
and then we're gonna do the freaking come up with
(10:53):
something to post TikTok, do the teasers. And I was like,
it was honestly like poking fun at the dance culture,
like the you gotta have a dance to have a
hit song type thing. And I was like, Okay, I'm
just gonna do every stupid dance that I can think of,
and my guy's going to cut it all together.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
The first one was in a hotel.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Gym and just you know, Napoleon dynamite and whatever, and
my guy cut it all together. We put it out
and that was just like boom, like a million, two million,
I don't know whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
First video popped Yeah yeah wow, I.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Mean popped in a in like not crazy but like
like triple whatever I had had before.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, anything seven figures is popping.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
So that was like we're like, oh, snap more instantly Yeah,
it was instantly like okay, cool, we found something that's
that's like catching with the algorithm or whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
And then we.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Just like doubled down and kept which is great being
a dad. I'm like, I don't have the energy capacity,
time brain space to you know, set up a whole
shoot and do this perfect like whatever, and just like
set up the camera, be stupid, send it to my
(12:14):
guy to cut it together and just ship it.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Was there a point where you had done so many
that you're thinking, man, we've done too many. It's played out,
but in reality that's not that world. Let's do as
many as you possibly can. Yeah, did you start to
feel like, okay, guys, we've done six of these, we
were probably done.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I mean I feel like we could keep going. Okay,
you know, it's like why not. It's more so like
people asking to do them with me, and it's like
we were like on the streets of Ireland or something,
and they were like, because they were obviously coming to
the show, we were doing whatever, and it was like
can we do can we do the dance? And then
it's like everybody it's but you know what it was
(12:54):
a it was a moment in time. It was a
cultural moment in time.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Would you see whenever the videos were streaming high TikToker,
Instagram whatever. Would you see a direct correlation with this
song streaming?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, I mean that it was all in I guess
like the middle of twenty twenty five, last year of
when it was just like, I don't know, however many
millions a week and it was all just like swirling,
and then it started going to pop radio, you know,
and it's just it was.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
All just swirling at the same time.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
At what point did you get the Jonas brothers on.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
They When they asked me to be the special guest
for their tour one night in Detroit, we were like,
maybe this is our moment to shoot the shot of
getting the feature because it's like, do we get who
is it? Is it a female artist that we get
on it? Because the girls just want to have fun whatever.
(13:58):
And we tried a few things and did nothing landed,
And so my creative director Daniella, who is overseeing of
all the visual everything, grew up with the bros. So
I was like, you're flying with us. You're gonna be
our my wing gal. We're gonna fly. We're gonna go
to Detroit just to I mean, honestly, just to hang
(14:21):
and catch up and do it. But if there is
a moment where we, you know, I feel like this
is the right thing to do, I think we should
just like shoot our shot. And so we're just pre
I think it was pre show. We were shooting the
Dead Dance with the with the Jonas brothers and everything.
They were like, should we like, you guys should hop
on this. It's like, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
It just came to me right now, do you guys
want to get on?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Yeah? I mean it was already at pop Radio and
it's like why and easy lay.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Up for them.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
They were headed in the studio anyway. They're like, yeah,
we're head in the studio next week.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Whoa crazy dude?
Speaker 3 (14:59):
And so there was that's cool.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah, yeah, that's cool how that all happened like that.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor,
and we're back on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I was backstage at the iHeart Country Festival last time
you and I spoke, and i'd left my dressing room
and there's like a holding room for everybody before they
go on, just a general room, and I walk in
to that room. I didn't know anybody in that room,
and I'd sit down for a second because people were
(15:40):
talking and it's a lady here, dude here, and the
lady says, hey, how are And we just were just
having a small talk and I'd mentioned something about my
wife being sick and she says, do you care if
I like pray for you? And I'm like, care, that'd
be awesome, Like I don't even know you. Pray away like,
so she says a prayer and we stop. The prayer ended,
(16:03):
and we just continue to talk and ray Lynn walks
in the artist ray Lan and it was her grandma
And I didn't know Raylan's grandma because she was there
and that's she was doing the prayer. So Raylan sits
down and she's like ah, and so you know Raylan's
big personality. And so we're all talking about something musically,
(16:24):
and there's the guy Cross is like, yeah, my son's
are in a band and I'm like, oh, I wonder
who they played guitar for, Like they're one of the
bands that are at the festival. And I'm like, oh,
your son's they they they play and goes yeah, and
he said do you have been playing a long time?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
And I love that he didn't say it there.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
You knew who it is. Yeah, and so eventually I'm
just curious. He wasn't trying to flex it at all.
I went back to it. I said, who's yours? Who
are your son's playing with? And he goes, oh, they're
not here. Uh, they're the Jonas brothers. And his name
was his name was Kevin Jonas. It was the dad
of the Jonas brothers. He never flexed the Jonas brothers.
(17:02):
One time we literally were just talking about music, and
his thing was, yeah, my son's also playing a band.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
So dude, you're so freaking Jonah's brothers like lead with that.
But I mean, I don't know, but I love that
he didn't never that's so good and never even set
it up for me to ask. It wasn't like my
son's playing a band. You'll never guess what band. It
was never anything like that. And so they're quintuple platinum vie.
You maybe heard a lot of them. Here's my name
(17:31):
tag and so the oh their dad was cool. Yeah,
So I don't know those guys. If they seem like
they're nice guys.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
They're so great. We were in Vegas for I played.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
I had a show at.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Playing at Hollywood and then they were there the next
night and then at like nine am, Nick texts me,
He's like, hey, I think you're in Vegas? Are you?
He's like, you want to come out tonight? And sing
I was like, no, I'm good, thank you though, but yeah,
I was just like, did their podcast hung out you
(18:06):
know after played Roulette till one in the morning, Just
just homies.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
With those guys. Yeah, people bother.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Them, No that, I mean they have their own got
him section of the hotel, you know, not just a room.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Like a whole piano hall. No, I mean, it was
just it was just their squad.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
On the casino floor though.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Oh no, yeah, private room.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah really, Yeah, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Blackjack, Roulette, maybe something.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Else, craps. What were they bett in the hand? Dude?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Okay, I put five hundred down just for Roulette dig total,
not a bet, not every single bet.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Were you betting five hundred every time they spun the wheel?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
No?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
No, okay, two two fifty.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
But yeah no, Nick came down and put I mean
three drop put three grand, not per hand, but just
in and then it was like it wasn't crazy money,
so it's not like Dana White Taylor one million one. Yeah,
like it's nothing like that. It was conservative, conservative gambling.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
It could really go viral if they were doing fifty
bucks a hand fifty thousand either way, tough time for
the Joe bro, and they wouldn't tip. They refuse to tip.
You go super viral with that time, bro. The fettiwap
thing's been interesting with the first time that you did
that just was it just to be funny?
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (19:34):
That was it? Correct, Like you can do a pretty
good fetty wap impression, so you're just going to do it.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I've been a fetti wop stand since the beginning since
Trap Queen, you know, just I used to sing it
at my shows, cover it during my set.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I didn't know that. Yeah, And so you did it
on TikTok did it bop?
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yeah? That's the most viral thing I've ever had ever really.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
So what was the video exactly?
Speaker 3 (20:02):
It was Kaylee filming.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
We're just in in the kitchen and she's like started filming.
She was like, Yo, did you hear who just got out?
Like fetti wap just got out? And I was just like, yeah,
bab just singing like fetty wap And that was just
and it's all on her account too, by the way,
(20:24):
it's not even all my account.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah, I didn't know that OUTI the fact, that's funny. Yeah,
when you're doing it, are you like behind.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
A big like like island.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah, yeah, I can picture now, I get pictures that video. Yeah,
And that went so viral that it was weird to
see the next day one of those where you wake
up and you're like, oh my god, oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
And it's just like the whole day every year just
like refresh it and it's like another four hundred thousand,
you know, just like swipe and like. And the cool
thing is is like all the comments were positive and
it was like a multi cultural audience that it reached.
So I'm invited to the cookout. Nice I am. I'm
(21:04):
proud to say.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
How long until you heard from his camp at all? We?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I mean probably a month or so because you let
us sit in and like it was like, okay, what
are we just going to let this be a thing?
Are we going to act upon it? And I had
the song Boots for a long time, wrote it with
Dylan Marlowe by the way, fun fact, and we have
the song and I try, you know, throw it to
(21:34):
Tea Paine Pass, throw it to Shaboozi Pass, you know.
And I was like, okay, whatever, it's somebody will somebody
will land on it. And I'm so glad it did
because I am such a massive fetti wa fan and
have been since the beginning. And our teams start talking,
(21:55):
I think they're like, who is this, who's this white
boy that you know whatever is taking immretating our guy.
And then it like it kept going and kept building
and kept going, and I think we sent him a song.
Then like got to the point like, okay, we'll listen
to the song. Send them the song. And then they
(22:16):
was like, hey, send them a song, send him an
open verse to where he can like fetti wop over
all over the place. And fetti wop he did all
over that thing.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
When you got it back the next day the next.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Morning, Hey, I mean my man was like, hey, I'm
about to send it.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
I think he nailed it.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Like we need some ad libs, we need some more
fetti wop ness, but like, yeah, the verse nothing changed
from the verse of his. And then we're just like, yo,
give us like some some give me some yeah babies
and some ooh.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
And they did, and it was I mean, it was
super easy.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
There was like two back and forth, which sometimes I
feel like you can get in the weeds, and.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Yeah, I just.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
The and then so then there's the reaction video of
hearing fetti for the first time. I'd heard the verse,
but I hadn't heard that like intro part which is
like so signature fetti wop yeah baby and all that,
and it just was it just happened to be back
in the same it's our beach house, be back in
(23:31):
the same setting as the video, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
That's crazy that all happened because of a video of
you in the kitchen that your wife shot.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
That's where I can get behind social media, you know
of that type that type stuff. But like I don't know,
with all the over overthought and overproduced and everything.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
What I like about social media now is there are
just so many fewer gatekeepers. I think that is amazing. Yeah,
but just like every other iteration of media now, social
media kind of knows that and they're creating their own
rules now. They're almost like a gatekeeper as well. And
(24:14):
so you're always predicting algorithms and certain people are given
the information of the algorithm. They're kind of the new
gatekeepers because they actually know how to beat it. Or
you have to pay the clip. You know, you're paying
ten grand a month to get people to clip, to
do your clips and feed them everywhere, so you have
to have them. I love that you don't that there
aren't near as many gatekeepers. I think that is tremendous
(24:34):
for art itself, because anybody that's good anywhere, if you're
good enough consistently, because sometimes you can be awesome twice
and it won't hit. Sometimes you gotta be awesome seventeen
times in a row the same day for one of
them to hit. Yeah, But if you just keep on
and you're good, like I really think you can make it.
(24:54):
I didn't think that seven years ago. I think I
thought if you were good and you got to have
and you had the right person support you with their resources. Yeah,
and those resources get to the right people at radio,
satellite stream up uh playlisting on the stream like it
all had to be people. Now you can bully the
(25:17):
people with data. Yeah, if you just have enough data,
you can bully all those people into having to play you.
You see it all the time, and so I like
that about social media now. But you're right, A lot
of it feels so contrived that I don't go into
it thinking anything is real until I learned to trust it.
(25:37):
M m yeah, because every I feel like everything is fake.
If you can fake it so well that it makes
me feel like it's real, you win, You win, You
got me. It's like AI, if you can do AI.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
But like, for example, though, that did you hear about
the new movie that just came out, the horror movie
that's like a YouTuber director.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
And it's the number one seven thousand bucks or whatever. Make yeah, right, Mike,
that's the one obsession.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah, yeah, like eighty one million in the first week
or weekend or something. It's like, that's awesome, And I
think that's out there. For one, it's hard to get
seven hundred thousand dollars. I'm not going to say that
anybody can make a movie.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
But you can crowdfund a wonderful idea now, and if
it's good consistently, like I think you you can win.
I think you can win now by being good, better,
better than you ever could in the history of art.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
And so I like that. Yeah, I think this recent
version of your success probably doesn't happen if all the
gatekeepers are like little Russell. Honestly, yeah, like you had
you had to bully people with your success totally to go, oh, well,
we can't really hold him down because then we look
like fools because he's crushing it on all these platforms. Yeah,
(26:54):
I do like that about it.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
That was even the case in the very beginning too.
It was still a little rough syndrome of like I
had yours every little thing in Blue Tacoma on my
like very first EP that we took around town, two labels,
Yours was already going on XM, going on you know whatever,
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and still like I still couldn't get a deal, went.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
To everybody, all the big dogs, and.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
It was just still they were like, eh, yours kind
of sounds like a worship song, Like it's too CCM,
it's to this, it's too whatever.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
I'm like, okay, cool.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
So, like, literally my first little EP with three number
one songs, multi platinum age want them, you know.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
So what was it then? That was that you bullied
them with data?
Speaker 3 (27:50):
What was it?
Speaker 2 (27:50):
How did you get sid it?
Speaker 1 (27:53):
By the time I had gone around and gone around
and gone around, thankfully, there was a new label being.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Created called Triple Tigers.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
That's my label now, and I was I was the
first artist on there, and like, don't I don't know
if they had their eye. It wasn't like, hey, we
want to build a label for Russell. It was just like,
I think, just the right timing of it. But that
was the only offer I ever had for a record deal.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah, that's crazy. What do you think about those guys
at Triple Tigers. Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
They let me do whatever I want. It's awesome.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
You know why they let you do whatever you want.
But I know why they let you.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Do whatever crew. I don't screw it up that much.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Because you don't make them look bad. You make the money.
They As long as you are successful at what you do,
no one is going to stop you from doing what
you do. And you have consistently been successful. I know. George,
Yeah really well, Yeah, it's like one of the only
guys in this whole town that's like an executive that
I'm like, that's my right. He texted me the other
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day and like, I don't I don't like to be
friends with people because I don't want to feel like
I can't I don't want to say criticized, but critique
there's a difference. But George is like from Austin. We
were there for like a decade at the same time,
so that's like I love that dude. Yeah you like him?
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
We like twice.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
If you're lying, we're cool, dude, I swear he uh no,
it's it's we just but we don't. We don't like
hang out that much. I don't hang out with my
catch up.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah, what did he see in you? I didn't see
anything in you.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
I think it was Norbert Nick's first it's awesome too. Yeah,
was the one who was so passed like he I
mean to this day if he was sitting right here,
like I knew it when I saw the video for
yours his wife shot it. There was nothing. There was
no butt, you know, he'd just go on and on
and but that was that was like the magical thing
that kicked started my career. But yeah, Norbert was is
(30:03):
like as soon as he saw the video, he was like, yeah,
but this is our guy.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the
Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
How many breaking points did you almost have? Meaning you're
hustling you're just trying to get a deal. You're like,
I don't know if I can do this. You got
something you mentioned another one whenever you're not breaking but
you're going, Lord, is this it? Like my plateau? Like
there's two. How many of those do you think you've had?
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Probably probably five, maybe three to five, three to five
major like what is what do I do from here?
The first one I think would be when I got
(31:02):
me and Kaylee just got married, and like within a month,
I got dropped from my publishing deal.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
After two years, and so I was like.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Uh, fresh freshly married income completely stopped. I mean I
was making thirty four grand a year, but that was
cheddar back in the day.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
It's also consistent income in regard, especially in an inconsistent
world like this.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Yeah, so like.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
As a new provider for my wife and just it was.
It was a weird spot to be of because it's
like do I go get a job, do I drive uber?
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Do I?
Speaker 1 (31:54):
You know?
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Do I?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
And Kaylee she was like no, she was like you
focus on this, keep writing, keep going, like she was babysitting,
she was doing photography on the side, you know, like
she was the one. She was my sugar mama for
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Did you land another publishing deal? How long that had
to be?
Speaker 3 (32:19):
It probably was over a year? Really, yeah, it was
probably a year.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
When you lose a publishing deal, Is it hard to
get rights or is it all relationship based anyway?
Speaker 1 (32:31):
I mean kind of back in the day I was.
I was about to say, as an artist, no, but like,
who was I in twenty thirteen, you know? So yeah,
I mean I was just kind of call up buddies
and see And now I was like, but that's when
I really like dove into producing and dove into like
(32:53):
all the technical side of it and learning how to
record with logic and what an interface was, what a
compressor is, what a vocal chain is, and uh I
look back on that and I'm like, I'm actually really
glad that I had that time to hone that aspect
of it so I can walk into a studio now like, yo, dude,
(33:15):
the eleven seventy six is off, bro, you need you
need to hit the ratio.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
I don't know that forced education paid off for you
big time later, big time. It was like for me,
like when I first started just in radio in general,
I had to learn how to do everything. It was miserable,
all production tower, all this crap tower you to tower, what
is exactly? It was like old school. You had to
go and.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Read there to climb the tower.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
No, not climb it, but I did go to it before,
and so I had to do all that. But then
once I started to like have a crew, and then
they got bigger and bigger, like I knew all the
jobs and it was so valuable that I had done
all the jobs. Yeah, because then I knew if they
were doing the job for real or not that's a word. Yeah, yeah,
(34:01):
So I was pretty grateful for that, but I can
see where it would be in the moment, scary, frustrating.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Do you have you writ any songs with other people
for other people? Do you have any other songs? Not
a lot, like any like cuts I.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Whiskey on my breath. I'd remember you. I remember you
played that love and theft.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Oh that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Whiskey on my breath because I remember him calling me Steven.
He was like, dude, Bobby's about to play whiskey on
my breath, dude, And at the time I was like,
holy schnikes, let's go.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
That's a good song.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Were you always writing for yourself?
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Yeah? I think that's why.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
I think that's why I asked the question, like, were
you ever just out even after you're going I'm an artist?
Were you ever just writing to write and see if
songs just landed places?
Speaker 3 (34:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
I feel like I'm always just like that's what I'm
here for, you know, when I show up to a
writing room as the artist, especially now that pressure grows
more more as an artist, so like, I'm thankful you
guys are here. I want us to walk out of
here with a hit. But that's just Yeah, There's always
been even even back in the day when I was
(35:12):
writing with FGL, like they they were writing songs to
write songs as songwriters, and I was like, I'm the
artist who is going to sing these songs?
Speaker 3 (35:25):
You know?
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Did they ever write any songs that you cut?
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yeah? On my my little I had I recorded an EP.
Like when I was at Belmont there was like all
of them, like six songs. Were you guys in class together?
They had like just graduated. We overlapped for a year.
We hadn't met yet, so like they had graduated and
I had like another year year and a half and
(35:50):
they came to one of my twelfth Importer shows and
a friend of a friend was like, Hey, you got
to meet these two dudes. They're, you know, writing a
bunch of songs. You can get a little whatever going. And
were they they yet?
Speaker 2 (36:03):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I don't think they were Florida George Line yet. So
I was like, dude, yeah, hung out with them. I
was like, let's write, let's do whatever. So went over
to their apartment, little house, two level thing. It was
they they lived on the top, Chase Rice lived in
the basement, and so it was like Me, Tyler and
(36:25):
Bka writing all the time.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Like that was like after class.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
I was like, I couldn't wait to get back to
the funhouse to write terrible country songs.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Was it weird or was there any jealousy whenever they
blew up? But they were your boys before any of
you blew up and you're you're hustling, but you're not
hitting like they are. Any jealousy there? Maybe I have
learned that I can have positive professional jealousy. I have
a very close friend that is killing it and has
(36:58):
been for the last five years. I look at him
and I'm like, I'm so jealous, but I'm also like
so so bright, and I didn't know those two things
could exist at the same time. Yeah, because jealous had
always been such a negative thing to me. Yeah, but
like I have a friend who's killing it, and like
I am so happy for him, but I'm also jealous. Right.
(37:18):
Is that what that felt like at all?
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (37:20):
I think so, because, like like I said, it was like,
we're writing these songs and like I'm gonna I'm gonna
cut them. I'm I want to go I want to
go tour. I want to be in a van, I
want to be on a bus and do the stage
and the perform and the guitar solos and the lights
and everything. And then and then yeah, I was just
(37:41):
like boom cruise. I remember when they played it for me.
I was like, dang, do you know it was good? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Oh bro, yeah dude.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
And like I mean, I was at my publisher when
they came because we were writing and like, dude, listen
to this song we just got and I was just like, oh.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Yeah, you watch the rocket ship from very close.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Then, very very very close man, and yeah it is
It's like I was like, oh, dang, I was going
to be I was going to be the artist that
blows up and does the whole thing, but it is
it's like they're like brothers and so to see see
your boys just crushing it so fast, so big, so quick.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
It was wild. It was wild to watch, and like
the cool thing.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Is is I was just I was still zero and
they were, you know, fgl in twenty thirteen, fourteen, and
like they're like, bring me out on the road to
like experience it and see everything. Like I would like
be their shadow when they were doing phoners and like
(38:49):
listen to how they, you know, interact with radio and
how they how they entertain people and how they you know,
just they like it was just like a super cool
see into just kind of be their little tag along,
their little tag along buddy.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Did they ever put you on shows with them, like
as an opener?
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Yeah, and it's funny.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
I forget what it was twenty sixteen maybe, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
That's pretty cool, especially if you don't have like negative
feelings about it. It's cool. I experienced that. I just
always thought if you're jealous of someone, it has to
be from an unhappy place, because I think all my
jealousy before with whom Iver had been from an unhappy place,
and maybe it's just because I've been to a lot
of therapy. I don't know. But it's like the first
time in my life I've ever been like, dude, that
(39:37):
is awesome. I'm so happy for you. A text, a
legitimate text. Yeah, you are killing it, And I like, man,
I wish that would yeah, wish I was doing that crap.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
It's more so, Yeah, I feel like when it's like
awesome music and like you know what I mean, when
it's just there and it's undeniable. But when something like
so crazy random, I'm like, Okay, I don't understand that.
That's frustrating.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
It's funny the first time you heard cruise, you're like, oh,
that's it.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
There's only been a few songs in my entire tenure
in this town where I've heard it and immediately went undeniable. Yeah.
One of them was I remember I was in my
car and I was flipping through and meant to Be
came on and there's like seven words in that song
and it was the greatest catch you a thing I've
(40:24):
ever heard in my life. It was if it's meant
to be, It's meant to be. Baby, and I'm like,
oh my god, that song is going to kick holes
in every wallpot.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
I remember where I was when I heard that song, going,
that's the catchest thing I've ever heard. Yeah, I guess
they just have the ability to write those.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
We were on tour with them when they came out
with that song. I remember that because Bbe came out
to a show and they like recorded the video for it.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
I remember that.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
But that's another example of what you were talking about
with me. But like on such a massive scale. I
think cruise round here, you know, all the early Fgo
hits and then meant to be?
Speaker 3 (41:09):
You know, would you.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Agree, Yeah, no, I do. I just there's just a
few of those moments where I have heard a song
and remember where I was going to. Yeah, like they
can print money now, like just put the machine in
their house, because that's a money the Fort Knox. What
is a bit frustrating for me about what you guys
do as songwriters is when a song and I think
(41:33):
meant to Be is a great example when people will go,
anybody can write that. I heard that about body like
a background. Anybody can write that, Okay, then do it.
If anybody can write it. Yeah, freaking write it. Let
me hear you. Who's talking about how easy it is
to write a hit song? Yeah, it's so simple. Okay, well,
here's a patent paper. I would love to see you
(41:55):
write a song as a songwriter. That has got to
be frustrating. Yeah, because there's art is in simplicity and melody,
but they're not even considering the melody part of it
when people say stupid stuff like that, Yeah, like baby
shark nine words bop, that's all melody. That's all melody.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
One of the biggest streamed YouTube of like ever in history.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Is that frustrating to you when you nail a song
and if you're like looking in comments like oh yeah,
come on blue to call me. He said it seventy
four times. Anybody could do that. No, No, just.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Because I've been saying, well, I'm like, dude, okay, if
you can write a better one, let's do it please.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
And you're also probably like pushing your money machine to
the side to get to the computer to write that
message too.
Speaker 4 (42:40):
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Speaker 2 (42:55):
And we're back on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Let's see you a week And this was a it
will have already happened. Uh so Fetty's gonna come out
at the stadium.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
So in the past, Fetty came out.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
Yeah, Fetty came out.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
We won't release this until after it happened, so we
won't leak it.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
So see him a week a few weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Yeah, what happened.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Fetty Wop came out on stage. People went crazy.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Dude that could have believe went crazy?
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Wild. People thought at first when he was like so
that they thought that was just like it. So you
were playing a sound yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Then it was actually him.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Then he came out, it was actually him on the way.
Have you met him in person?
Speaker 1 (43:33):
No, kind of geeking a little bit, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Yeah, It's like you guys have been chatting online a
long time and now you're on your first date. Like
you like he was in Germany. He's the girl you
met in Germany. Here this dude, you've been talking online
for like two years, and now you're flying together to
have your first date.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
Like there's a lot it's a.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Lot of pressure sentenced so much money. Yeah, you know,
I hope he's real. I've seen a lot of catfish.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Oh my god, that was even real what if Betty
Fop show and it was all just a big prank man.
That's funny. Do you collect anything?
Speaker 3 (44:06):
Uh not really, you don't.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Collect cards or anything in anyway. Sports cards, No, that's
next for you. Do you collect watches?
Speaker 1 (44:12):
It all kind of I'm new to the game.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
They've been. They've been like tour gifts, you know.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
People have given you watches. Who gave you a watch?
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Darius and Lady A in twenty eighteen?
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Did they go in to give you a watch?
Speaker 3 (44:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Was it Rolex? That's awesome?
Speaker 3 (44:31):
Is that that?
Speaker 5 (44:31):
No?
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Mil Goths, the male goss which is discontinued. Everybody like
they were like, so, what kind of what kind of
watches you like?
Speaker 3 (44:39):
What do you want?
Speaker 1 (44:39):
I was like, gold, I want some diamonds, like I
will not not diamonds, but maybe one at the top.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
And they're like, no, we got you. And I'm so glad.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
That's awesome they did. Did they engrave it? M hm?
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Summer plays on tour twenty twenty twenty eighteen, and then
Tim McGraw at the end of a twenty twenty two
tour sat down outside my bus and just slapped me
up twenty bands, just a crispy twenty geez no way, Yeah,
(45:12):
just like stood up, took it out of his back pockets.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
Like, there you go, buddy, what a great tour.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
He gave you twenty thousand dollars in cash.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Cash, cold hard cash. Yeah, so I sat. I sat
on it for a while, just trying to find the
right the right one, and then I, oh.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
You bought a watch with them.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
He gave settle on this guy.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
That's awesome. When he walked in, you have a big
lump in his pants and you're like, oh, yeah, he
lumped up. Yeah, bro, And then if it turns out,
I was.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
Like, it does work out a lot.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Have you seen the picture of him with his brothers? Okay,
I have to show this to you. Yeah, where's my phone? Dude,
you're gonna crap your pants. Tim mcgrawl does work out
a lot. Hold on, let's see Tim. The girl you
especially will love this. How hard do you work? But
(46:06):
Tim mcgrawl posted a picture of him and his brothers.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
Dang, dude, that's jeans.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Well, I don't insult the guy that's working out hard
to Yeah, they're all but look at look at it.
He's like eleven abs isn't that wild.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
Yeah, that's a that's an extra shoulders, boulder shoulders.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Man, that is a dude. That's a dude that goes hard.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
That's how he's looked for since he stopped all the Shenanigans.
I guess I don't know what you did, Tim, but
you did something right.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
Shanigan's is a good word for it. Yeah, yeah, dude,
that's crazy. Yeah, I mean that's he's so vascular.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Zero.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
Do you think he takes something for that?
Speaker 2 (46:58):
Oh? I don't know. I mean, I'm sure everybody's doing
some sort of peptide at this point.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
You doing anything? No creatine, man, I has of creatine, and.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
I feel too puffy, correctly because it's water, right, like
it's water, it's water on your muscles.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
Do you think it's directly linked to creatine? Though?
Speaker 2 (47:18):
Uh? I took creating when I was in high school
playing football, and then I took it again like three
years ago.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Hard.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
I just didn't like how made me feel.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
Okay, but maybe I should stop.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
No, it has nothing to do with you.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
I'm just saying I've been feeling awfully.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
No, no, no, I just felt like I like to
be thin, Okay, I like my clothes to hang off
of me. And I like to be in shape. I
like to be thin in shape. Creating made me feel
like a little too bulky.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
I feel like I can look at pictures and I'm like,
I can see I'm like, oh yeah, definitely, like I
was drinking a little bit.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
You know, mine's always in my face. I can tell
what I was just by my face because that's kind
of where that in the front. Like I get the
I got fat at all?
Speaker 1 (48:03):
It's right, yeah, okay, I gotta try a cut then
a creatine cut.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
No, it has nothing.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
I want to try, though. I want to.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
I wonder you do you do an a D at all?
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Do you do injections or do you do ivs?
Speaker 3 (48:16):
I do mouth? What is that oral? What? That's how
I take it?
Speaker 1 (48:25):
I do oral?
Speaker 3 (48:28):
Please post that?
Speaker 2 (48:29):
So it is it like a pill.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
It's just no, it's just like a liquid. I forget
what the brand is roe r h O.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Not familiar.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
I saw some jack CrossFit to doing it and I
was like, yep, I take this now.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
Well I saw football players doing it, so I did
it with the ivs. Yeah, and oh.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
Is that that? You have to like do it slow?
Speaker 1 (48:53):
Right?
Speaker 2 (48:54):
You feel so bad while you do it.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Yeah, I remember that I have done that.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
It would take an hour and forty five minutes. Then
I would do like one hundred milligrams. I think that's
what they give you.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
The did you ever did you do it yourself?
Speaker 2 (49:05):
No?
Speaker 1 (49:06):
Oh yeah, the dude like they came to our house
and did it, and here you can like you can
kind of control it. So it's like, oh yeah, I
controlled it, like oh no, no, no, no, no, you control
like the flow Bobo do yours?
Speaker 2 (49:20):
No, because before Bobo blew up with his own business,
he would come around he was like, God, are do
an ad? All the football players are doing it, and
so I'd be like, yeah, I'm like a football player.
I'll do it, and dude, it would make me feel
so sick only while doing it, and then I'd have
to slow it down.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
But your insides are boiling.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Because what I learned is that it's all You feel
worse the more inflammation you have.
Speaker 3 (49:44):
Mm hm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
So I was crazily inflamed. Obviously we are probably so
many ways, and but as soon as you pull it out,
you don't feel bad anymore. But yeah, I felt terrible.
Now do injections.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
What do you think you're inflamed from life?
Speaker 2 (50:00):
Bro diet Mountain Pine Arkansas, Bro True grew up on
mountain dewing blowney sandwiches, and that inflammation has never leave
made is permanently inside of me, is wherever? Yeah, all right, man, Yeah,
congratulations on everything.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
Thank you, Bro, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
No, it's just cool because again I think there's something
to this. You've just broken through a couple ceilings and
it's really cool, and I hope that people start to
give you. It's not so much the credit. You don't
need the credit. We're in such a fractured world of
you can be massive one place and somebody doesn't know
(50:39):
who you are next door, right, But like in this industry,
I think you need it needs to be known when
it comes to these award shows, because those make you
feel good, I mean right, I mean sure they're trivial,
but they're still cool. Like you deserve to get those
looks as like mal artists as I think they should.
(51:01):
People people did listen to this or watch this now
on Netflix. It's like, I think you should be in
those talks when it comes to who are we going
to nominate for you? Know male artists Entertainer of the Year, Like,
I think that's hopefully you get in those conversations. That's
what I hope anyway I think it is. I know
you do. I think you deserve it. I didn't always
think you deserved it, but now I do now I
think now you love it.
Speaker 1 (51:22):
You do.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
Yeah, so uh yeah, good to see it. Tell Kayley
said hello. And we don't get to see each other often,
but when we do, I always try to to tell
you how much like I respect, how hard you've worked,
and how much people like you even when you're not around.
That's a cool thing is nobody says anything bad about
(51:43):
Russell and Russell's not around people like Russell, and that's
that's nice. Yeah, I'll leave a trail.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
That's sweet.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
It's like as soon as I know. Yeah, it's like
a snail moment.
Speaker 3 (51:55):
Yeah like that, dude, So.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
Congratulations, due, thank you, thank you for always being you
don't have to be nice to anybody.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
I'm gonna lea, I'm gonna let your god because this
is I get uncomfortable, but thank you. Just receive thank you. Well,
now you're done. I receive it and then you stop.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
Yeah, I forgot where I'm going. But I have a
learning visibility and I'm lost to my own brain.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
I go to the russell Mania tour. You're not getting
sued for that? Oh I got two quid, You're not
getting sued for that one. Not.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
I'm not going to say it's awes and why the russell.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
Mania thing is amazing. I love wrestling though, but russell
Mania is perfect. I just kept waiting for that lawsuit. Dude,
they're not going to at this point, they're not going
to sue you.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
I hope, I hope not, I don't.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
I mean, it's it's amazing branding. Even if people don't
know wrestling, it's amazing. So that's number one. That's that
and then number two, Oh I had another had something good.
I was going to say, I forgot.
Speaker 1 (52:57):
Why you think about it that. It's kind of like
the Nickelback video of like look at this grave right
like they Chad did an interview, is like we could
legally ask them to take it down, but it's like
it's promo for the band. It's a promo for what
we do. Like I'm just promoting wrestling culture, you know.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
And you have to be jacked if you're going to
be it's gonna be Russell Mania tour. Like you have
to be jacked.
Speaker 1 (53:23):
That's one of the motivations to be in shape.
Speaker 2 (53:27):
There's a picture I commented on a view of the
Flying V. I have a flying V myself. It's one
of the It's one of the coolest pictures I've ever
seen of you. And I look at all your pictures.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
You do.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
Yeah, yeah, it's my things. Every night sleep I kind
of wind down with a little Russell looxie. My wife's like,
you're coming to bed, not yet. Oh you're Russell Looxie. Yeah,
And I just go through, go through all your pictures.
Speaker 1 (53:49):
I'm already maxing right now.
Speaker 2 (53:52):
Congratulations, buddy, Thank you. Bro. There he is. Go go
watch a show. If he comes nearer you go to
Russell shows. Uh, Russell Dixon dot com.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
All that stuff.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
All right there he has Russell Dickerson.
Speaker 3 (54:03):
Thank you, Bobby Bones boom.
Speaker 2 (54:06):
Great job. I didn't know that. I didn't see if
didn't bring you didn't have it with you, so I
was I didn't know keep it keeping.
Speaker 3 (54:12):
I hit it behind the couch.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
We ever did we ever stop? Okay, We'll just let
it keep. People bring in an album that they love.
You had no album with you, so I didn't go
to it.
Speaker 3 (54:24):
Now I put it behind the couch to be a surprise.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
Okay, so we have people they bring an album that
means a lot to them. I never went to you
because I didn't see it, So that's on kind of
on you. But oh yeah, that's that's a great one.
So tell us the album it hold it up and
show the camera. But then also forget listening.
Speaker 1 (54:44):
Well, I just found out that I was supposed to
bring the physical album in. But it is John Mayer Live.
And if you haven't seen where the light is, you
need to see where the light is because it's.
Speaker 3 (54:58):
That's it, dude.
Speaker 1 (54:59):
I mean, it's just like three facets of musicality that
I remember watching it. I think I was. I think
I was a guitar tecking for Chris Tomlin and we
were watching it on the bus.
Speaker 2 (55:12):
Yeah, oh wait, free Falling's on that right.
Speaker 3 (55:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (55:15):
The first time you John Mayer do free Falling and
you're like, nobody should try to do forever. Okay, John
Mayer should do free Falling because it's just him acoustic.
Speaker 1 (55:22):
Yeah, and now especially nobody should ever cover free Falling again.
Speaker 2 (55:26):
You love John Mayr?
Speaker 3 (55:27):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (55:29):
Do you love John Mary? Do you love love John Mayr?
Speaker 3 (55:32):
I love John Mayer?
Speaker 2 (55:33):
I love love John Mayer. Yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (55:37):
Kaylee love loves John Mayer.
Speaker 1 (55:40):
Uh yeah, I mean the the.
Speaker 2 (55:44):
Love loves.
Speaker 1 (55:47):
In your Atmosphere probably one of my favorite songs on
guitar to play.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
You ever played it live?
Speaker 1 (55:57):
No, it's like it's like like weird tuning and stuff.
I don't think that's the russell Mania vibe either.
Speaker 2 (56:06):
Well, thanks for bringing the album. Man, you didn't have
to bring it. You didn't have to buy a new one.
Speaker 3 (56:10):
That's though they said. I had to you. Literally, that's
why I was late.
Speaker 2 (56:15):
It suggested no, no, you were late eight minutes. I
literally was like, hey, we usually cut these if somebody's
ten minutes late.
Speaker 1 (56:23):
I know Bobby hates being late.
Speaker 2 (56:25):
Better luck next time when people are late.
Speaker 3 (56:27):
That's why I text you.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
Okay, I get a text from you.
Speaker 3 (56:32):
So you change your number. You didn't even let me know.
Speaker 2 (56:34):
I literally don't have a text from you. You probably
text my old number.
Speaker 3 (56:44):
It still has your picture.
Speaker 2 (56:46):
Okay, but that is you've sent one text and ever.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
I got it. Just got a new phone.
Speaker 2 (56:52):
Okay, I guess see the picture. Yeah, that's not how
I know that's not my number anymore.
Speaker 3 (56:57):
Okay, Well some body knows that.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
I still have that phone. It's just at my house
on a charger because sometimes I don't know the code
to log into stuff, and it still sends me a
code to that old number. So when I go to
get the next time I need to log into my
you know, bank account, I'm going to see a bank
code and a text from Russell going hey, I'll be
there in five minutes.
Speaker 1 (57:20):
I'm grabbing a record because they said I had to,
so I'm gonna be late.
Speaker 2 (57:25):
One you didn't have to, but two you could have
taken the film off of it.
Speaker 3 (57:29):
Yeah, well that's that was I wanted to be part
of the story.
Speaker 2 (57:32):
Yeah, what's the story.
Speaker 1 (57:33):
I had to go buy a record to bring here?
Speaker 2 (57:36):
Got it? Okay?
Speaker 1 (57:37):
I wanted you to know that, all right, which is
why I was late, Because what if I just brought it,
brought in an old Ratty one.
Speaker 2 (57:44):
No, No, that's what like shoy Crow brought in like
an old record Fleetwood Mac And.
Speaker 3 (57:49):
She was like rumors, yes, right out there.
Speaker 2 (57:50):
She was like this Mormon.
Speaker 1 (57:52):
She's probably original too. It's probably from like the first
print first press.
Speaker 2 (57:57):
It's probably from Stevie Nicks first press that she pressed
it herself and gave it to Sheryl, And then you
went to I don't know. I went to TV, went
to Sam's and got the John.
Speaker 1 (58:10):
No, I did at least go to Grimey's. Okay, I
did at least go to Grimey's. Uh, but we're we're
not even in our house, so I literally I don't
know where anything is.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
Well, very nice of you to do that.
Speaker 1 (58:23):
I would have also gone, Michael Jackson. Does greatest hits count? No, no, no,
I didn't think so. You're a purest so.
Speaker 2 (58:30):
You can't count greatest hits as like favorite records of
all time. Even if I keep all my favorite records
around me, even on the walls behind me and behind you,
you won't see a single greatest hits.
Speaker 3 (58:39):
Yeah that's fair.
Speaker 2 (58:41):
I respect greatest hits, but can't count that's like five records.
It's like the all star team from five records. Yeah, okay, there. Well,
for the second time, Russell, this.
Speaker 1 (58:52):
Is kind of the greatest hits though, dang it now
that I think about it.
Speaker 2 (58:55):
Not really though, because it's not a song from another
record that was put onto this record. He records a
live show, so it's a live record, so it's kind
of half cheating, but I appreciate you. Yeah, that's a wrap.
The great Russell Dickerson. Thanks for listening to a Bobby
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Cast production.
Right before Happened to Me end of twenty four, I
was like, I might be done.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Today's guest is one of the most positive people I know,
Russell Dickerson. He's had number one songs like Yours and
Blue Tacoma, Love You like I used to God Gave
Me a Girl, and then Happens to Me, which was massive.
Recently he's racked up nearly four billion streams. Big energy,
(00:35):
big heart, a whole lot of fun, like one of
my favorite people. He's back now with new music, including
the song Boots with Fettiwop, which we talk about, and
he's got a new EP and he's going out on
the Russell Mania tour. Here he is Russell Dickerson, Russell,
good to see you, buddy, Hey baby, your arms like huge,
thank you's I saw you come in. It's like, dang,
(00:57):
what do you do?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Dang I do?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
It's like my there's a podcast called mind Pump and
they got programs, all kinds of programs, and I just
picked one.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
It's called Aesthetic.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I was like, yeah, like I'm on stage, I would
like to look jacked. And it's just three days a week,
probably forty five minutes.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
It's a podcast. Yeah, so you listen to it what
they tell you.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
No, no, no. They have programs like PDFs, so you
just like buy the PDF. And I'm just I've just
been doing that for like three years.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Just slow and steady.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Was that a conscious effort to get yourself in better shait?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Why?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Just to be in better shape, just to be thicker.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I feel like I look back and like three years ago,
I thought I was like fairly pretty jacked. I was like, no,
I was, I was. I was scrawny, and I just
have always had that frame.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I had a kid recently, and so when we had
the baby, I don't work out forever. I understand how
people get dad bods, because it's just like you work
all day, then you get home and you complain about
working all day. But then also you gotta constantly watch
a baby. And so I've just now got back into it.
But like having a baby, like, I have new respect
(02:17):
for all the people that weren't working out that I
was like, come on, you got it, there's no time, right, Yeah,
there's things are constant, have you you know those those things?
Babies got two of them, they're constant.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Yeah, and you get you got to beat them you
got to beat them. To the Punch in the morning.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I'm glad you said to the Punch in the morning,
there's a weird, weird pause after you gotta beat them.
I didn't know where you have to beat them? Yeah,
to the Punch in the morning. Yes, you have to
beat them. I saw a fun video that said I
think your wife had posted it where it was when
(02:52):
you know your kid is like a tour kid. You
see your oldest Does he go on the road with
you a lot?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
They both probably.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
When like when the bus picks us up at the
house and drops us off at the house, we'll bring
them out. But if we got to like fly, you
know and everything, we'll just leave them.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
How do they do on the bus?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
So good? They love it.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
They got their little bunks, zip them in, we got
we got the bounce house under the bus. We got
their little bikes, you know, so they just do you.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Have a family bus now that's just you guys when
you go off man.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, we had one for a couple of years and
then it expanded into we need more people, but can't
afford another bus yet, you know. So it was like
there was a year where we didn't have that and
now it's finally back to we got another one, No One.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
You're making good money though now too, right, I mean
I mean as I know what, I know what. You're
selling a lot of tickets. Yeah that's cool. Yeah, like
you're making good money now right, I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
That's what's good. What is good money. It's all going
into our house, I'll tell you that. So it's it's
just it's as soon as it's it's gone, that's what
it feels like.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
But you're making good money, meaning after you pay for
all the overhead, they're still a comfortable amount left. Yeah,
that's the best place to be.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
We're making comfortable.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I saw your show, the one you did, I think
it was in Michigan.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Grand Rapids thing was huge, huge.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
He said it was the biggest show you'd ever sold.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yeah, yeah, that was crazy.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
How many tickets?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
About eleven thousand?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
That's wild, Yeah, in an awesome way. I don't mean
that as an insult, like that's that's really why that's
really awesome it is, but.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Also it is it's awesome and it is wild, like
it feels.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Like it's not me. I'm like, are you sure you
got the right concert? Because like, for fifteen years, it's
been just twenty five people, fifty people, one hundred, one thousand,
you know. And the one of the posts we did
was like, hey, we kept coming back to the same
venue for five years, you know what I mean, the
(05:08):
same venue twenty Monroe came back the next year, came
back two.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Years later, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
It's always that venue. And then for some reason, boom
eleven thousand.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
What if there were like three thousand people that thought
they were coming to WrestleMania and they're.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Like, where's Cody Rhodes? Is an empty block? The heck,
where's the ring?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, it's really cool to see. I've told you this
privately too, but it's rare to see people do it
at their trajectory. You're doing it because my version of
your career is, here's a guy he did what people
didn't think. He got a song and it popped, Great job,
(05:59):
got a second song. Okay, well that's pretty much that's
where it's gonna last. He's right, there's like then you
hit a new level and then usually you're like, okay,
everybody just kind of classifies you as that mid mid
kind of artist, and you're doing your own shows. For sure,
and you're headlining, and but rarely does it pop to
that next level after that long because like you said,
(06:20):
you've been grinding for fifteen years. It's like there is
a new new version of you that's even bigger that
usually you don't see people grow out of after your
five or six When I say that, is that the
version in your mind?
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Totally.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I mean up right before happened to me end of
twenty four, I was like, you know, without getting overly spiritual,
I was just like, God, I think I'm I might
be done. Like what am I doing? I feel like
I'm just like spinning. I feel like I'm on a
treadmill and I'm like sprinting, but like I'm not co
(07:00):
one anywhere. I'm working so hard, nothing like Where's because
I feel like he gave me this dream of kind
of where it is now?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Like when is it enough?
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Like that is eleven thousand packed into an amphitheater. I'll
be happy for the rest of my career. That's great,
But you know what I mean, Like I was where
I was like, where is this? I feel like I'm
stuck same thing, same club, same venues, over and over
year after year.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
What it like you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Well, it's not just you. I've just seen that plateau
happen at a By the way, if it happened to
me never happens to you, that's funny. But if it
never happens to you, you had a freaking awesome career. Yeah,
like one that ninety nine point eight percent of every
artist would dream of having. And I've just seen so
many times when people get to that great spot and
(07:50):
they've got a few number ones, they can torn at
the rest of their life be comfortable and that's it,
that's their plateau. Yeah, but something's happened to you that
I haven't seen happen here in my fifteen years in
ten on where it's like boom stealing popped you again yea,
and again I've told you. I'm not just telling you
that here. I've told you that even privately. But it's
been really cool to see. And I think now you
(08:12):
should be in consideration for that mailed Artist of the Year,
even the Entertainer of the Year type conversation. And those
are the conversations people have to talk about you in
before you actually get in them. True, but it's so
hard to have people recognize you for that whenever they
know you. It's kind of intern syndrome, meaning if you
intern into business and you raise up to the ranks,
(08:33):
even if you're freaking second in command, the CEO still
knows you as an intern.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
That's so on the button, dude, because I mean I
grew up here and like I feel like Nashville's little brother.
That's exactly what it feels, you know. It's like, oh, yeah,
little Russell. I remember when he brought me his first song.
You know, I remember he was like he was hopping
around town, you.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Know, trying to get a deal, trying to do this,
trying to do that.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
It's like little Russell, little Russell syndrome.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Little Russell who paid five bucks first starts video that
went big? How crazy good for him? Yeah, he really
made it. Yeah, and yeah, that's a hard, hard thing
to shake. I mean I've had that issue with just
like the radio guy. Dude. I've had like four TV
shows I got to Netflix day. It's like, but then
the people that knew me when I just came to town,
they're like, Oh, there's the trouble maker radio guy. He
(09:24):
just it's really cool to see and I hope people
start to recognize like your body of work, because it's
hard to rerecognize somebody like again when you know him
for Little Russell. Yeah, it's hard to see, like dude
selling out nine ten, eleven thousand seat venues like Happened
to Me was massive, But I was already feeling like
(09:44):
it was doing a little bit of that before that song,
Like I was really feeling like yeah, and again I'm
not just saying this in front of you here, but
like I've always believed in your kid. Yeah that song?
What was the deal with the song?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Was that?
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Dude? Why'd you cut it? Did you know that it
was gonna be? Was it all viral? That launched? Like
for people to see it because you did some really
funny videos?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah, I mean happened to me honestly?
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Was we sat on it for We wrote it in
twenty twenty three and it didn't come out till twenty five.
Did you not think it was special? I thought it
was a No, Honestly, I thought it was like a
fun song. We'll do it live definitely going on. The
album could be a single maybe you know, one single,
(10:33):
two or something, but uh, it honestly just so happened
to be like, okay, we all kind of agreed that
that was going to be the first instant grat track
off the album. How they do target exclusive back in
the day. Yeah, and so I was like, all right, cool,
and then we're gonna do the freaking come up with
(10:53):
something to post TikTok, do the teasers. And I was like,
it was honestly like poking fun at the dance culture,
like the you gotta have a dance to have a
hit song type thing. And I was like, Okay, I'm
just gonna do every stupid dance that I can think of,
and my guy's going to cut it all together.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
The first one was in a hotel.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Gym and just you know, Napoleon dynamite and whatever, and
my guy cut it all together. We put it out
and that was just like boom, like a million, two million,
I don't know whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
First video popped Yeah yeah wow, I.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Mean popped in a in like not crazy but like
like triple whatever I had had before.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, anything seven figures is popping.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
So that was like we're like, oh, snap more instantly Yeah,
it was instantly like okay, cool, we found something that's
that's like catching with the algorithm or whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
And then we.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Just like doubled down and kept which is great being
a dad. I'm like, I don't have the energy capacity,
time brain space to you know, set up a whole
shoot and do this perfect like whatever, and just like
set up the camera, be stupid, send it to my
(12:14):
guy to cut it together and just ship it.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Was there a point where you had done so many
that you're thinking, man, we've done too many. It's played out,
but in reality that's not that world. Let's do as
many as you possibly can. Yeah, did you start to
feel like, okay, guys, we've done six of these, we
were probably done.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I mean I feel like we could keep going. Okay,
you know, it's like why not. It's more so like
people asking to do them with me, and it's like
we were like on the streets of Ireland or something,
and they were like, because they were obviously coming to
the show, we were doing whatever, and it was like
can we do can we do the dance? And then
it's like everybody it's but you know what it was
(12:54):
a it was a moment in time. It was a
cultural moment in time.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Would you see whenever the videos were streaming high TikToker,
Instagram whatever. Would you see a direct correlation with this
song streaming?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, I mean that it was all in I guess
like the middle of twenty twenty five, last year of
when it was just like, I don't know, however many
millions a week and it was all just like swirling,
and then it started going to pop radio, you know,
and it's just it was.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
All just swirling at the same time.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
At what point did you get the Jonas brothers on.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
They When they asked me to be the special guest
for their tour one night in Detroit, we were like,
maybe this is our moment to shoot the shot of
getting the feature because it's like, do we get who
is it? Is it a female artist that we get
on it? Because the girls just want to have fun whatever.
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And we tried a few things and did nothing landed,
And so my creative director Daniella, who is overseeing of
all the visual everything, grew up with the bros. So
I was like, you're flying with us. You're gonna be
our my wing gal. We're gonna fly. We're gonna go
to Detroit just to I mean, honestly, just to hang
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and catch up and do it. But if there is
a moment where we, you know, I feel like this
is the right thing to do, I think we should
just like shoot our shot. And so we're just pre
I think it was pre show. We were shooting the
Dead Dance with the with the Jonas brothers and everything.
They were like, should we like, you guys should hop
on this. It's like, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
It just came to me right now, do you guys
want to get on?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Yeah? I mean it was already at pop Radio and
it's like why and easy lay.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Up for them.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
They were headed in the studio anyway. They're like, yeah,
we're head in the studio next week.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Whoa crazy dude?
Speaker 3 (14:59):
And so there was that's cool.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah, yeah, that's cool how that all happened like that.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor,
and we're back on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I was backstage at the iHeart Country Festival last time
you and I spoke, and i'd left my dressing room
and there's like a holding room for everybody before they
go on, just a general room, and I walk in
to that room. I didn't know anybody in that room,
and I'd sit down for a second because people were
(15:40):
talking and it's a lady here, dude here, and the
lady says, hey, how are And we just were just
having a small talk and I'd mentioned something about my
wife being sick and she says, do you care if
I like pray for you? And I'm like, care, that'd
be awesome, Like I don't even know you. Pray away like,
so she says a prayer and we stop. The prayer ended,
(16:03):
and we just continue to talk and ray Lynn walks
in the artist ray Lan and it was her grandma
And I didn't know Raylan's grandma because she was there
and that's she was doing the prayer. So Raylan sits
down and she's like ah, and so you know Raylan's
big personality. And so we're all talking about something musically,
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and there's the guy Cross is like, yeah, my son's
are in a band and I'm like, oh, I wonder
who they played guitar for, Like they're one of the
bands that are at the festival. And I'm like, oh,
your son's they they they play and goes yeah, and
he said do you have been playing a long time?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
And I love that he didn't say it there.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
You knew who it is. Yeah, and so eventually I'm
just curious. He wasn't trying to flex it at all.
I went back to it. I said, who's yours? Who
are your son's playing with? And he goes, oh, they're
not here. Uh, they're the Jonas brothers. And his name
was his name was Kevin Jonas. It was the dad
of the Jonas brothers. He never flexed the Jonas brothers.
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One time we literally were just talking about music, and
his thing was, yeah, my son's also playing a band.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
So dude, you're so freaking Jonah's brothers like lead with that.
But I mean, I don't know, but I love that
he didn't never that's so good and never even set
it up for me to ask. It wasn't like my
son's playing a band. You'll never guess what band. It
was never anything like that. And so they're quintuple platinum vie.
You maybe heard a lot of them. Here's my name
(17:31):
tag and so the oh their dad was cool. Yeah,
So I don't know those guys. If they seem like
they're nice guys.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
They're so great. We were in Vegas for I played.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
I had a show at.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Playing at Hollywood and then they were there the next
night and then at like nine am, Nick texts me,
He's like, hey, I think you're in Vegas? Are you?
He's like, you want to come out tonight? And sing
I was like, no, I'm good, thank you though, but yeah,
I was just like, did their podcast hung out you
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know after played Roulette till one in the morning, Just
just homies.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
With those guys. Yeah, people bother.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Them, No that, I mean they have their own got
him section of the hotel, you know, not just a room.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Like a whole piano hall. No, I mean, it was
just it was just their squad.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
On the casino floor though.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Oh no, yeah, private room.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah really, Yeah, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Blackjack, Roulette, maybe something.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Else, craps. What were they bett in the hand? Dude?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Okay, I put five hundred down just for Roulette dig total,
not a bet, not every single bet.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Were you betting five hundred every time they spun the wheel?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
No?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
No, okay, two two fifty.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
But yeah no, Nick came down and put I mean
three drop put three grand, not per hand, but just
in and then it was like it wasn't crazy money,
so it's not like Dana White Taylor one million one. Yeah,
like it's nothing like that. It was conservative, conservative gambling.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
It could really go viral if they were doing fifty
bucks a hand fifty thousand either way, tough time for
the Joe bro, and they wouldn't tip. They refuse to tip.
You go super viral with that time, bro. The fettiwap
thing's been interesting with the first time that you did
that just was it just to be funny?
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (19:34):
That was it? Correct, Like you can do a pretty
good fetty wap impression, so you're just going to do it.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I've been a fetti wop stand since the beginning since
Trap Queen, you know, just I used to sing it
at my shows, cover it during my set.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I didn't know that. Yeah, And so you did it
on TikTok did it bop?
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yeah? That's the most viral thing I've ever had ever really.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
So what was the video exactly?
Speaker 3 (20:02):
It was Kaylee filming.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
We're just in in the kitchen and she's like started filming.
She was like, Yo, did you hear who just got out?
Like fetti wap just got out? And I was just like, yeah,
bab just singing like fetty wap And that was just
and it's all on her account too, by the way,
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it's not even all my account.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah, I didn't know that OUTI the fact, that's funny. Yeah,
when you're doing it, are you like behind.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
A big like like island.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah, yeah, I can picture now, I get pictures that video. Yeah,
And that went so viral that it was weird to
see the next day one of those where you wake
up and you're like, oh my god, oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
And it's just like the whole day every year just
like refresh it and it's like another four hundred thousand,
you know, just like swipe and like. And the cool
thing is is like all the comments were positive and
it was like a multi cultural audience that it reached.
So I'm invited to the cookout. Nice I am. I'm
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proud to say.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
How long until you heard from his camp at all? We?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I mean probably a month or so because you let
us sit in and like it was like, okay, what
are we just going to let this be a thing?
Are we going to act upon it? And I had
the song Boots for a long time, wrote it with
Dylan Marlowe by the way, fun fact, and we have
the song and I try, you know, throw it to
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Tea Paine Pass, throw it to Shaboozi Pass, you know.
And I was like, okay, whatever, it's somebody will somebody
will land on it. And I'm so glad it did
because I am such a massive fetti wa fan and
have been since the beginning. And our teams start talking,
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I think they're like, who is this, who's this white
boy that you know whatever is taking immretating our guy.
And then it like it kept going and kept building
and kept going, and I think we sent him a song.
Then like got to the point like, okay, we'll listen
to the song. Send them the song. And then they
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was like, hey, send them a song, send him an
open verse to where he can like fetti wop over
all over the place. And fetti wop he did all
over that thing.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
When you got it back the next day the next.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Morning, Hey, I mean my man was like, hey, I'm
about to send it.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
I think he nailed it.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Like we need some ad libs, we need some more
fetti wop ness, but like, yeah, the verse nothing changed
from the verse of his. And then we're just like, yo,
give us like some some give me some yeah babies
and some ooh.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
And they did, and it was I mean, it was
super easy.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
There was like two back and forth, which sometimes I
feel like you can get in the weeds, and.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Yeah, I just.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
The and then so then there's the reaction video of
hearing fetti for the first time. I'd heard the verse,
but I hadn't heard that like intro part which is
like so signature fetti wop yeah baby and all that,
and it just was it just happened to be back
in the same it's our beach house, be back in
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the same setting as the video, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
That's crazy that all happened because of a video of
you in the kitchen that your wife shot.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
That's where I can get behind social media, you know
of that type that type stuff. But like I don't know,
with all the over overthought and overproduced and everything.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
What I like about social media now is there are
just so many fewer gatekeepers. I think that is amazing. Yeah,
but just like every other iteration of media now, social
media kind of knows that and they're creating their own
rules now. They're almost like a gatekeeper as well. And
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so you're always predicting algorithms and certain people are given
the information of the algorithm. They're kind of the new
gatekeepers because they actually know how to beat it. Or
you have to pay the clip. You know, you're paying
ten grand a month to get people to clip, to
do your clips and feed them everywhere, so you have
to have them. I love that you don't that there
aren't near as many gatekeepers. I think that is tremendous
(24:34):
for art itself, because anybody that's good anywhere, if you're
good enough consistently, because sometimes you can be awesome twice
and it won't hit. Sometimes you gotta be awesome seventeen
times in a row the same day for one of
them to hit. Yeah, But if you just keep on
and you're good, like I really think you can make it.
(24:54):
I didn't think that seven years ago. I think I
thought if you were good and you got to have
and you had the right person support you with their resources. Yeah,
and those resources get to the right people at radio,
satellite stream up uh playlisting on the stream like it
all had to be people. Now you can bully the
(25:17):
people with data. Yeah, if you just have enough data,
you can bully all those people into having to play you.
You see it all the time, and so I like
that about social media now. But you're right, A lot
of it feels so contrived that I don't go into
it thinking anything is real until I learned to trust it.
(25:37):
M m yeah, because every I feel like everything is fake.
If you can fake it so well that it makes
me feel like it's real, you win, You win, You
got me. It's like AI, if you can do AI.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
But like, for example, though, that did you hear about
the new movie that just came out, the horror movie
that's like a YouTuber director.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
And it's the number one seven thousand bucks or whatever. Make yeah, right, Mike,
that's the one obsession.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah, yeah, like eighty one million in the first week
or weekend or something. It's like, that's awesome, And I
think that's out there. For one, it's hard to get
seven hundred thousand dollars. I'm not going to say that
anybody can make a movie.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
But you can crowdfund a wonderful idea now, and if
it's good consistently, like I think you you can win.
I think you can win now by being good, better,
better than you ever could in the history of art.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
And so I like that. Yeah, I think this recent
version of your success probably doesn't happen if all the
gatekeepers are like little Russell. Honestly, yeah, like you had
you had to bully people with your success totally to go, oh, well,
we can't really hold him down because then we look
like fools because he's crushing it on all these platforms. Yeah,
(26:54):
I do like that about it.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
That was even the case in the very beginning too.
It was still a little rough syndrome of like I
had yours every little thing in Blue Tacoma on my
like very first EP that we took around town, two labels,
Yours was already going on XM, going on you know whatever,
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and still like I still couldn't get a deal, went.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
To everybody, all the big dogs, and.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
It was just still they were like, eh, yours kind
of sounds like a worship song, Like it's too CCM,
it's to this, it's too whatever.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
I'm like, okay, cool.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
So, like, literally my first little EP with three number
one songs, multi platinum age want them, you know.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
So what was it then? That was that you bullied
them with data?
Speaker 3 (27:50):
What was it?
Speaker 2 (27:50):
How did you get sid it?
Speaker 1 (27:53):
By the time I had gone around and gone around
and gone around, thankfully, there was a new label being.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Created called Triple Tigers.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
That's my label now, and I was I was the
first artist on there, and like, don't I don't know
if they had their eye. It wasn't like, hey, we
want to build a label for Russell. It was just like,
I think, just the right timing of it. But that
was the only offer I ever had for a record deal.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah, that's crazy. What do you think about those guys
at Triple Tigers. Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
They let me do whatever I want. It's awesome.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
You know why they let you do whatever you want.
But I know why they let you.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Do whatever crew. I don't screw it up that much.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Because you don't make them look bad. You make the money.
They As long as you are successful at what you do,
no one is going to stop you from doing what
you do. And you have consistently been successful. I know. George,
Yeah really well, Yeah, it's like one of the only
guys in this whole town that's like an executive that
I'm like, that's my right. He texted me the other
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day and like, I don't I don't like to be
friends with people because I don't want to feel like
I can't I don't want to say criticized, but critique
there's a difference. But George is like from Austin. We
were there for like a decade at the same time,
so that's like I love that dude. Yeah you like him?
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
We like twice.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
If you're lying, we're cool, dude, I swear he uh no,
it's it's we just but we don't. We don't like
hang out that much. I don't hang out with my
catch up.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah, what did he see in you? I didn't see
anything in you.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
I think it was Norbert Nick's first it's awesome too. Yeah,
was the one who was so passed like he I
mean to this day if he was sitting right here,
like I knew it when I saw the video for
yours his wife shot it. There was nothing. There was
no butt, you know, he'd just go on and on
and but that was that was like the magical thing
that kicked started my career. But yeah, Norbert was is
(30:03):
like as soon as he saw the video, he was like, yeah,
but this is our guy.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the
Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
How many breaking points did you almost have? Meaning you're
hustling you're just trying to get a deal. You're like,
I don't know if I can do this. You got
something you mentioned another one whenever you're not breaking but
you're going, Lord, is this it? Like my plateau? Like
there's two. How many of those do you think you've had?
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Probably probably five, maybe three to five, three to five
major like what is what do I do from here?
The first one I think would be when I got
(31:02):
me and Kaylee just got married, and like within a month,
I got dropped from my publishing deal.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
After two years, and so I was like.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Uh, fresh freshly married income completely stopped. I mean I
was making thirty four grand a year, but that was
cheddar back in the day.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
It's also consistent income in regard, especially in an inconsistent
world like this.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Yeah, so like.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
As a new provider for my wife and just it was.
It was a weird spot to be of because it's
like do I go get a job, do I drive uber?
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Do I?
Speaker 1 (31:54):
You know?
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Do I?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
And Kaylee she was like no, she was like you
focus on this, keep writing, keep going, like she was babysitting,
she was doing photography on the side, you know, like
she was the one. She was my sugar mama for
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Did you land another publishing deal? How long that had
to be?
Speaker 3 (32:19):
It probably was over a year? Really, yeah, it was
probably a year.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
When you lose a publishing deal, Is it hard to
get rights or is it all relationship based anyway?
Speaker 1 (32:31):
I mean kind of back in the day I was.
I was about to say, as an artist, no, but like,
who was I in twenty thirteen, you know? So yeah,
I mean I was just kind of call up buddies
and see And now I was like, but that's when
I really like dove into producing and dove into like
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all the technical side of it and learning how to
record with logic and what an interface was, what a
compressor is, what a vocal chain is, and uh I
look back on that and I'm like, I'm actually really
glad that I had that time to hone that aspect
of it so I can walk into a studio now like, yo, dude,
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the eleven seventy six is off, bro, you need you
need to hit the ratio.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
I don't know that forced education paid off for you
big time later, big time. It was like for me,
like when I first started just in radio in general,
I had to learn how to do everything. It was miserable,
all production tower, all this crap tower you to tower, what
is exactly? It was like old school. You had to
go and.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Read there to climb the tower.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
No, not climb it, but I did go to it before,
and so I had to do all that. But then
once I started to like have a crew, and then
they got bigger and bigger, like I knew all the
jobs and it was so valuable that I had done
all the jobs. Yeah, because then I knew if they
were doing the job for real or not that's a word. Yeah, yeah,
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So I was pretty grateful for that, but I can
see where it would be in the moment, scary, frustrating.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Do you have you writ any songs with other people
for other people? Do you have any other songs? Not
a lot, like any like cuts I.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Whiskey on my breath. I'd remember you. I remember you
played that love and theft.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Oh that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Whiskey on my breath because I remember him calling me Steven.
He was like, dude, Bobby's about to play whiskey on
my breath, dude, And at the time I was like,
holy schnikes, let's go.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
That's a good song.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Were you always writing for yourself?
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Yeah? I think that's why.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
I think that's why I asked the question, like, were
you ever just out even after you're going I'm an artist?
Were you ever just writing to write and see if
songs just landed places?
Speaker 3 (34:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
I feel like I'm always just like that's what I'm
here for, you know, when I show up to a
writing room as the artist, especially now that pressure grows
more more as an artist, so like, I'm thankful you
guys are here. I want us to walk out of
here with a hit. But that's just Yeah, There's always
been even even back in the day when I was
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writing with FGL, like they they were writing songs to
write songs as songwriters, and I was like, I'm the
artist who is going to sing these songs?
Speaker 3 (35:25):
You know?
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Did they ever write any songs that you cut?
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yeah? On my my little I had I recorded an EP.
Like when I was at Belmont there was like all
of them, like six songs. Were you guys in class together?
They had like just graduated. We overlapped for a year.
We hadn't met yet, so like they had graduated and
I had like another year year and a half and
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they came to one of my twelfth Importer shows and
a friend of a friend was like, Hey, you got
to meet these two dudes. They're, you know, writing a
bunch of songs. You can get a little whatever going. And
were they they yet?
Speaker 2 (36:03):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I don't think they were Florida George Line yet. So
I was like, dude, yeah, hung out with them. I
was like, let's write, let's do whatever. So went over
to their apartment, little house, two level thing. It was
they they lived on the top, Chase Rice lived in
the basement, and so it was like Me, Tyler and
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Bka writing all the time.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Like that was like after class.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
I was like, I couldn't wait to get back to
the funhouse to write terrible country songs.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Was it weird or was there any jealousy whenever they
blew up? But they were your boys before any of
you blew up and you're you're hustling, but you're not
hitting like they are. Any jealousy there? Maybe I have
learned that I can have positive professional jealousy. I have
a very close friend that is killing it and has
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been for the last five years. I look at him
and I'm like, I'm so jealous, but I'm also like
so so bright, and I didn't know those two things
could exist at the same time. Yeah, because jealous had
always been such a negative thing to me. Yeah, but
like I have a friend who's killing it, and like
I am so happy for him, but I'm also jealous. Right.
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Is that what that felt like at all?
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (37:20):
I think so, because, like like I said, it was like,
we're writing these songs and like I'm gonna I'm gonna
cut them. I'm I want to go I want to
go tour. I want to be in a van, I
want to be on a bus and do the stage
and the perform and the guitar solos and the lights
and everything. And then and then yeah, I was just
(37:41):
like boom cruise. I remember when they played it for me.
I was like, dang, do you know it was good? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Oh bro, yeah dude.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
And like I mean, I was at my publisher when
they came because we were writing and like, dude, listen
to this song we just got and I was just like, oh.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Yeah, you watch the rocket ship from very close.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Then, very very very close man, and yeah it is
It's like I was like, oh, dang, I was going
to be I was going to be the artist that
blows up and does the whole thing, but it is
it's like they're like brothers and so to see see
your boys just crushing it so fast, so big, so quick.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
It was wild. It was wild to watch, and like
the cool thing.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Is is I was just I was still zero and
they were, you know, fgl in twenty thirteen, fourteen, and
like they're like, bring me out on the road to
like experience it and see everything. Like I would like
be their shadow when they were doing phoners and like
(38:49):
listen to how they, you know, interact with radio and
how they how they entertain people and how they you know,
just they like it was just like a super cool
see into just kind of be their little tag along,
their little tag along buddy.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Did they ever put you on shows with them, like
as an opener?
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Yeah, and it's funny.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
I forget what it was twenty sixteen maybe, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
That's pretty cool, especially if you don't have like negative
feelings about it. It's cool. I experienced that. I just
always thought if you're jealous of someone, it has to
be from an unhappy place, because I think all my
jealousy before with whom Iver had been from an unhappy place,
and maybe it's just because I've been to a lot
of therapy. I don't know. But it's like the first
time in my life I've ever been like, dude, that
(39:37):
is awesome. I'm so happy for you. A text, a
legitimate text. Yeah, you are killing it, And I like, man,
I wish that would yeah, wish I was doing that crap.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
It's more so, Yeah, I feel like when it's like
awesome music and like you know what I mean, when
it's just there and it's undeniable. But when something like
so crazy random, I'm like, Okay, I don't understand that.
That's frustrating.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
It's funny the first time you heard cruise, you're like, oh,
that's it.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
There's only been a few songs in my entire tenure
in this town where I've heard it and immediately went undeniable. Yeah.
One of them was I remember I was in my
car and I was flipping through and meant to Be
came on and there's like seven words in that song
and it was the greatest catch you a thing I've
(40:24):
ever heard in my life. It was if it's meant
to be, It's meant to be. Baby, and I'm like,
oh my god, that song is going to kick holes
in every wallpot.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
I remember where I was when I heard that song, going,
that's the catchest thing I've ever heard. Yeah, I guess
they just have the ability to write those.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
We were on tour with them when they came out
with that song. I remember that because Bbe came out
to a show and they like recorded the video for it.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
I remember that.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
But that's another example of what you were talking about
with me. But like on such a massive scale. I
think cruise round here, you know, all the early Fgo
hits and then meant to be?
Speaker 3 (41:09):
You know, would you.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Agree, Yeah, no, I do. I just there's just a
few of those moments where I have heard a song
and remember where I was going to. Yeah, like they
can print money now, like just put the machine in
their house, because that's a money the Fort Knox. What
is a bit frustrating for me about what you guys
do as songwriters is when a song and I think
(41:33):
meant to Be is a great example when people will go,
anybody can write that. I heard that about body like
a background. Anybody can write that, Okay, then do it.
If anybody can write it. Yeah, freaking write it. Let
me hear you. Who's talking about how easy it is
to write a hit song? Yeah, it's so simple. Okay, well,
here's a patent paper. I would love to see you
(41:55):
write a song as a songwriter. That has got to
be frustrating. Yeah, because there's art is in simplicity and melody,
but they're not even considering the melody part of it
when people say stupid stuff like that, Yeah, like baby
shark nine words bop, that's all melody. That's all melody.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
One of the biggest streamed YouTube of like ever in history.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Is that frustrating to you when you nail a song
and if you're like looking in comments like oh yeah,
come on blue to call me. He said it seventy
four times. Anybody could do that. No, No, just.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Because I've been saying, well, I'm like, dude, okay, if
you can write a better one, let's do it please.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
And you're also probably like pushing your money machine to
the side to get to the computer to write that
message too.
Speaker 4 (42:40):
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Speaker 2 (42:55):
And we're back on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Let's see you a week And this was a it
will have already happened. Uh so Fetty's gonna come out
at the stadium.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
So in the past, Fetty came out.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
Yeah, Fetty came out.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
We won't release this until after it happened, so we
won't leak it.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
So see him a week a few weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Yeah, what happened.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Fetty Wop came out on stage. People went crazy.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Dude that could have believe went crazy?
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Wild. People thought at first when he was like so
that they thought that was just like it. So you
were playing a sound yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Then it was actually him.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Then he came out, it was actually him on the way.
Have you met him in person?
Speaker 1 (43:33):
No, kind of geeking a little bit, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Yeah, It's like you guys have been chatting online a
long time and now you're on your first date. Like
you like he was in Germany. He's the girl you
met in Germany. Here this dude, you've been talking online
for like two years, and now you're flying together to
have your first date.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
Like there's a lot it's a.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Lot of pressure sentenced so much money. Yeah, you know,
I hope he's real. I've seen a lot of catfish.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Oh my god, that was even real what if Betty
Fop show and it was all just a big prank man.
That's funny. Do you collect anything?
Speaker 3 (44:06):
Uh not really, you don't.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Collect cards or anything in anyway. Sports cards, No, that's
next for you. Do you collect watches?
Speaker 1 (44:12):
It all kind of I'm new to the game.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
They've been. They've been like tour gifts, you know.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
People have given you watches. Who gave you a watch?
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Darius and Lady A in twenty eighteen?
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Did they go in to give you a watch?
Speaker 3 (44:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Was it Rolex? That's awesome?
Speaker 3 (44:31):
Is that that?
Speaker 5 (44:31):
No?
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Mil Goths, the male goss which is discontinued. Everybody like
they were like, so, what kind of what kind of
watches you like?
Speaker 3 (44:39):
What do you want?
Speaker 1 (44:39):
I was like, gold, I want some diamonds, like I
will not not diamonds, but maybe one at the top.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
And they're like, no, we got you. And I'm so glad.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
That's awesome they did. Did they engrave it? M hm?
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Summer plays on tour twenty twenty twenty eighteen, and then
Tim McGraw at the end of a twenty twenty two
tour sat down outside my bus and just slapped me
up twenty bands, just a crispy twenty geez no way, Yeah,
(45:12):
just like stood up, took it out of his back pockets.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
Like, there you go, buddy, what a great tour.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
He gave you twenty thousand dollars in cash.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Cash, cold hard cash. Yeah, so I sat. I sat
on it for a while, just trying to find the
right the right one, and then I, oh.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
You bought a watch with them.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
He gave settle on this guy.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
That's awesome. When he walked in, you have a big
lump in his pants and you're like, oh, yeah, he
lumped up. Yeah, bro, And then if it turns out,
I was.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
Like, it does work out a lot.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Have you seen the picture of him with his brothers? Okay,
I have to show this to you. Yeah, where's my phone? Dude,
you're gonna crap your pants. Tim mcgrawl does work out
a lot. Hold on, let's see Tim. The girl you
especially will love this. How hard do you work? But
(46:06):
Tim mcgrawl posted a picture of him and his brothers.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
Dang, dude, that's jeans.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Well, I don't insult the guy that's working out hard
to Yeah, they're all but look at look at it.
He's like eleven abs isn't that wild.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
Yeah, that's a that's an extra shoulders, boulder shoulders.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Man, that is a dude. That's a dude that goes hard.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
That's how he's looked for since he stopped all the Shenanigans.
I guess I don't know what you did, Tim, but
you did something right.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
Shanigan's is a good word for it. Yeah, yeah, dude,
that's crazy. Yeah, I mean that's he's so vascular.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Zero.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
Do you think he takes something for that?
Speaker 2 (46:58):
Oh? I don't know. I mean, I'm sure everybody's doing
some sort of peptide at this point.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
You doing anything? No creatine, man, I has of creatine, and.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
I feel too puffy, correctly because it's water, right, like
it's water, it's water on your muscles.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
Do you think it's directly linked to creatine? Though?
Speaker 2 (47:18):
Uh? I took creating when I was in high school
playing football, and then I took it again like three
years ago.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Hard.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
I just didn't like how made me feel.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
Okay, but maybe I should stop.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
No, it has nothing to do with you.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
I'm just saying I've been feeling awfully.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
No, no, no, I just felt like I like to
be thin, Okay, I like my clothes to hang off
of me. And I like to be in shape. I
like to be thin in shape. Creating made me feel
like a little too bulky.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
I feel like I can look at pictures and I'm like,
I can see I'm like, oh yeah, definitely, like I
was drinking a little bit.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
You know, mine's always in my face. I can tell
what I was just by my face because that's kind
of where that in the front. Like I get the
I got fat at all?
Speaker 1 (48:03):
It's right, yeah, okay, I gotta try a cut then
a creatine cut.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
No, it has nothing.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
I want to try, though. I want to.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
I wonder you do you do an a D at all?
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Do you do injections or do you do ivs?
Speaker 3 (48:16):
I do mouth? What is that oral? What? That's how
I take it?
Speaker 1 (48:25):
I do oral?
Speaker 3 (48:28):
Please post that?
Speaker 2 (48:29):
So it is it like a pill.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
It's just no, it's just like a liquid. I forget
what the brand is roe r h O.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Not familiar.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
I saw some jack CrossFit to doing it and I
was like, yep, I take this now.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
Well I saw football players doing it, so I did
it with the ivs. Yeah, and oh.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
Is that that? You have to like do it slow?
Speaker 1 (48:53):
Right?
Speaker 2 (48:54):
You feel so bad while you do it.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Yeah, I remember that I have done that.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
It would take an hour and forty five minutes. Then
I would do like one hundred milligrams. I think that's
what they give you.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
The did you ever did you do it yourself?
Speaker 2 (49:05):
No?
Speaker 1 (49:06):
Oh yeah, the dude like they came to our house
and did it, and here you can like you can
kind of control it. So it's like, oh yeah, I
controlled it, like oh no, no, no, no, no, you control
like the flow Bobo do yours?
Speaker 2 (49:20):
No, because before Bobo blew up with his own business,
he would come around he was like, God, are do
an ad? All the football players are doing it, and
so I'd be like, yeah, I'm like a football player.
I'll do it, and dude, it would make me feel
so sick only while doing it, and then I'd have
to slow it down.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
But your insides are boiling.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Because what I learned is that it's all You feel
worse the more inflammation you have.
Speaker 3 (49:44):
Mm hm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
So I was crazily inflamed. Obviously we are probably so
many ways, and but as soon as you pull it out,
you don't feel bad anymore. But yeah, I felt terrible.
Now do injections.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
What do you think you're inflamed from life?
Speaker 2 (50:00):
Bro diet Mountain Pine Arkansas, Bro True grew up on
mountain dewing blowney sandwiches, and that inflammation has never leave
made is permanently inside of me, is wherever? Yeah, all right, man, Yeah,
congratulations on everything.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
Thank you, Bro, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
No, it's just cool because again I think there's something
to this. You've just broken through a couple ceilings and
it's really cool, and I hope that people start to
give you. It's not so much the credit. You don't
need the credit. We're in such a fractured world of
you can be massive one place and somebody doesn't know
(50:39):
who you are next door, right, But like in this industry,
I think you need it needs to be known when
it comes to these award shows, because those make you
feel good, I mean right, I mean sure they're trivial,
but they're still cool. Like you deserve to get those
looks as like mal artists as I think they should.
(51:01):
People people did listen to this or watch this now
on Netflix. It's like, I think you should be in
those talks when it comes to who are we going
to nominate for you? Know male artists Entertainer of the Year, Like,
I think that's hopefully you get in those conversations. That's
what I hope anyway I think it is. I know
you do. I think you deserve it. I didn't always
think you deserved it, but now I do now I
think now you love it.
Speaker 1 (51:22):
You do.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
Yeah, so uh yeah, good to see it. Tell Kayley
said hello. And we don't get to see each other often,
but when we do, I always try to to tell
you how much like I respect, how hard you've worked,
and how much people like you even when you're not around.
That's a cool thing is nobody says anything bad about
(51:43):
Russell and Russell's not around people like Russell, and that's
that's nice. Yeah, I'll leave a trail.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
That's sweet.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
It's like as soon as I know. Yeah, it's like
a snail moment.
Speaker 3 (51:55):
Yeah like that, dude, So.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
Congratulations, due, thank you, thank you for always being you
don't have to be nice to anybody.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
I'm gonna lea, I'm gonna let your god because this
is I get uncomfortable, but thank you. Just receive thank you. Well,
now you're done. I receive it and then you stop.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
Yeah, I forgot where I'm going. But I have a
learning visibility and I'm lost to my own brain.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
I go to the russell Mania tour. You're not getting
sued for that? Oh I got two quid, You're not
getting sued for that one. Not.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
I'm not going to say it's awes and why the russell.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
Mania thing is amazing. I love wrestling though, but russell
Mania is perfect. I just kept waiting for that lawsuit. Dude,
they're not going to at this point, they're not going
to sue you.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
I hope, I hope not, I don't.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
I mean, it's it's amazing branding. Even if people don't
know wrestling, it's amazing. So that's number one. That's that
and then number two, Oh I had another had something good.
I was going to say, I forgot.
Speaker 1 (52:57):
Why you think about it that. It's kind of like
the Nickelback video of like look at this grave right
like they Chad did an interview, is like we could
legally ask them to take it down, but it's like
it's promo for the band. It's a promo for what
we do. Like I'm just promoting wrestling culture, you know.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
And you have to be jacked if you're going to
be it's gonna be Russell Mania tour. Like you have
to be jacked.
Speaker 1 (53:23):
That's one of the motivations to be in shape.
Speaker 2 (53:27):
There's a picture I commented on a view of the
Flying V. I have a flying V myself. It's one
of the It's one of the coolest pictures I've ever
seen of you. And I look at all your pictures.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
You do.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
Yeah, yeah, it's my things. Every night sleep I kind
of wind down with a little Russell looxie. My wife's like,
you're coming to bed, not yet. Oh you're Russell Looxie. Yeah,
And I just go through, go through all your pictures.
Speaker 1 (53:49):
I'm already maxing right now.
Speaker 2 (53:52):
Congratulations, buddy, Thank you. Bro. There he is. Go go
watch a show. If he comes nearer you go to
Russell shows. Uh, Russell Dixon dot com.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
All that stuff.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
All right there he has Russell Dickerson.
Speaker 3 (54:03):
Thank you, Bobby Bones boom.
Speaker 2 (54:06):
Great job. I didn't know that. I didn't see if
didn't bring you didn't have it with you, so I
was I didn't know keep it keeping.
Speaker 3 (54:12):
I hit it behind the couch.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
We ever did we ever stop? Okay, We'll just let
it keep. People bring in an album that they love.
You had no album with you, so I didn't go
to it.
Speaker 3 (54:24):
Now I put it behind the couch to be a surprise.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
Okay, so we have people they bring an album that
means a lot to them. I never went to you
because I didn't see it, So that's on kind of
on you. But oh yeah, that's that's a great one.
So tell us the album it hold it up and
show the camera. But then also forget listening.
Speaker 1 (54:44):
Well, I just found out that I was supposed to
bring the physical album in. But it is John Mayer Live.
And if you haven't seen where the light is, you
need to see where the light is because it's.
Speaker 3 (54:58):
That's it, dude.
Speaker 1 (54:59):
I mean, it's just like three facets of musicality that
I remember watching it. I think I was. I think
I was a guitar tecking for Chris Tomlin and we
were watching it on the bus.
Speaker 2 (55:12):
Yeah, oh wait, free Falling's on that right.
Speaker 3 (55:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (55:15):
The first time you John Mayer do free Falling and
you're like, nobody should try to do forever. Okay, John
Mayer should do free Falling because it's just him acoustic.
Speaker 1 (55:22):
Yeah, and now especially nobody should ever cover free Falling again.
Speaker 2 (55:26):
You love John Mayr?
Speaker 3 (55:27):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (55:29):
Do you love John Mary? Do you love love John Mayr?
Speaker 3 (55:32):
I love John Mayer?
Speaker 2 (55:33):
I love love John Mayer. Yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (55:37):
Kaylee love loves John Mayer.
Speaker 1 (55:40):
Uh yeah, I mean the the.
Speaker 2 (55:44):
Love loves.
Speaker 1 (55:47):
In your Atmosphere probably one of my favorite songs on
guitar to play.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
You ever played it live?
Speaker 1 (55:57):
No, it's like it's like like weird tuning and stuff.
I don't think that's the russell Mania vibe either.
Speaker 2 (56:06):
Well, thanks for bringing the album. Man, you didn't have
to bring it. You didn't have to buy a new one.
Speaker 3 (56:10):
That's though they said. I had to you. Literally, that's
why I was late.
Speaker 2 (56:15):
It suggested no, no, you were late eight minutes. I
literally was like, hey, we usually cut these if somebody's
ten minutes late.
Speaker 1 (56:23):
I know Bobby hates being late.
Speaker 2 (56:25):
Better luck next time when people are late.
Speaker 3 (56:27):
That's why I text you.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
Okay, I get a text from you.
Speaker 3 (56:32):
So you change your number. You didn't even let me know.
Speaker 2 (56:34):
I literally don't have a text from you. You probably
text my old number.
Speaker 3 (56:44):
It still has your picture.
Speaker 2 (56:46):
Okay, but that is you've sent one text and ever.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
I got it. Just got a new phone.
Speaker 2 (56:52):
Okay, I guess see the picture. Yeah, that's not how
I know that's not my number anymore.
Speaker 3 (56:57):
Okay, Well some body knows that.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
I still have that phone. It's just at my house
on a charger because sometimes I don't know the code
to log into stuff, and it still sends me a
code to that old number. So when I go to
get the next time I need to log into my
you know, bank account, I'm going to see a bank
code and a text from Russell going hey, I'll be
there in five minutes.
Speaker 1 (57:20):
I'm grabbing a record because they said I had to,
so I'm gonna be late.
Speaker 2 (57:25):
One you didn't have to, but two you could have
taken the film off of it.
Speaker 3 (57:29):
Yeah, well that's that was I wanted to be part
of the story.
Speaker 2 (57:32):
Yeah, what's the story.
Speaker 1 (57:33):
I had to go buy a record to bring here?
Speaker 2 (57:36):
Got it? Okay?
Speaker 1 (57:37):
I wanted you to know that, all right, which is
why I was late, Because what if I just brought it,
brought in an old Ratty one.
Speaker 2 (57:44):
No, No, that's what like shoy Crow brought in like
an old record Fleetwood Mac And.
Speaker 3 (57:49):
She was like rumors, yes, right out there.
Speaker 2 (57:50):
She was like this Mormon.
Speaker 1 (57:52):
She's probably original too. It's probably from like the first
print first press.
Speaker 2 (57:57):
It's probably from Stevie Nicks first press that she pressed
it herself and gave it to Sheryl, And then you
went to I don't know. I went to TV, went
to Sam's and got the John.
Speaker 1 (58:10):
No, I did at least go to Grimey's. Okay, I
did at least go to Grimey's. Uh, but we're we're
not even in our house, so I literally I don't
know where anything is.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
Well, very nice of you to do that.
Speaker 1 (58:23):
I would have also gone, Michael Jackson. Does greatest hits count? No, no, no,
I didn't think so. You're a purest so.
Speaker 2 (58:30):
You can't count greatest hits as like favorite records of
all time. Even if I keep all my favorite records
around me, even on the walls behind me and behind you,
you won't see a single greatest hits.
Speaker 3 (58:39):
Yeah that's fair.
Speaker 2 (58:41):
I respect greatest hits, but can't count that's like five records.
It's like the all star team from five records. Yeah, okay, there. Well,
for the second time, Russell, this.
Speaker 1 (58:52):
Is kind of the greatest hits though, dang it now
that I think about it.
Speaker 2 (58:55):
Not really though, because it's not a song from another
record that was put onto this record. He records a
live show, so it's a live record, so it's kind
of half cheating, but I appreciate you. Yeah, that's a wrap.
The great Russell Dickerson. Thanks for listening to a Bobby
(59:16):
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by Audiochuck Media Company.
Betrayal Weekly
Betrayal Weekly is back for a new season. Every Thursday, Betrayal Weekly shares first-hand accounts of broken trust, shocking deceptions, and the trail of destruction they leave behind. Hosted by Andrea Gunning, this weekly ongoing series digs into real-life stories of betrayal and the aftermath. From stories of double lives to dark discoveries, these are cautionary tales and accounts of resilience against all odds. From the producers of the critically acclaimed Betrayal series, Betrayal Weekly drops new episodes every Thursday. If you would like to share your story, you can reach out to the Betrayal Team by emailing them at betrayalpod@gmail.com and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Please join our Substack for additional exclusive content, curated book recommendations, and community discussions. Sign up FREE by clicking this link Beyond Betrayal Substack. Join our community dedicated to truth, resilience, and healing. Your voice matters! Be a part of our Betrayal journey on Substack.