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July 17, 2026 45 mins

Bobby clears up the John Stamos headlines and explains how a joking Dancing with the Stars conversation turned into a story that spread across the internet. He also opens up about an artist who falsely blamed him for their lack of success, why he prepared to take legal action and how his role in breaking new music has changed over the years. Plus, Bobby reveals the biggest-performing BobbyCast episodes, shares the story behind an angry text from Kelsea Ballerini and explains how Amy, Lunchbox, Eddie, Mike, Ray and Scuba all became part of the show.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome to End the Weeds, and I want to start
by saying, we gotta leave John Stamos alone. I don't
know what happened here where we can't have a fun
conversation and people not take things the wrong way. But
I also feel bad about what's happened over the past
four or five days because it was never the intent

(00:28):
to get clickbait headlines from an interview.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
It actually never is with me.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
The one thing that I don't do is chase the
clickbait because I know if I'm clickbaiting people, that's only
gonna last so long before people don't come on my show.
So that happens, especially with artists in Nashville. I never
clickbait folks. I might build a good teas on top
of a video and then you watch the video and

(00:54):
you go, dang, okay, cool, But I'm never even gonna
chase like anything salacious for the sake of it. If
you don't know what I'm talking about, let's rewind at
John Stamos on The Bobby Cast last week. It was
last Tuesday's episode, and if you want to listen to it,
go search the Bobbycast on the podcast. You might be
listening to it because this goes up on that feed

(01:14):
podcast wise, or we can go to Netflix and watch him.
But I thought it was pretty cool because I love
John Stamos, because I love and loved Full House. So
originally I was going to go to Los Angeles to
interview him in person. That was not able to work out,
and as I've talked about before, I don't really like
doing remote interviews. I'll do a few if I feel
like the person is like so interesting for me that

(01:37):
we can get through that little communication barrier.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
So I didn't know how it's going to go.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
And we get John Stamos on and he comes on
and immediately we're kind of feeling each other out, and
we're both pretty like dry, a bit sarcastic sense of humors,
but we really hit our stride about halfway through the interview.
He's trying to figure out where he knows me from,
and the answer is nowhere until we're talking about Dancing

(02:03):
with the Stars because from Fuller House. He had brought
up Fuller House and how he was a producer on
the show, and he had brought up how he was
also on that show that was the Netflix version of
full House, like the sequel or just an older version
of them, And I said, oh, speaking of that on
my season of Dancing with the Stars was womp, Pablo,

(02:24):
and he's like, that's where I know you from, and
it's pretty funny. He sorted, calling me a jackass, and
again it was all in fun. We might have talked
about Dancing with the Stars for four minutes total because
he's never done the show. I like talking about the
show if it's someone who's done it, but he's never
done the show. And I asked him, Hey, would you

(02:47):
ever do it? And he had a funny remark. He
was like, no, because people did do that show. People
like to watch him fall down, not be good at it,
get hurt. He was obviously kidding, because the whole interview
was us just kind of busting each other's balls. But
on top of that, he wasn't completely wrong either, Like.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Why do you think people watch that show.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
It's not to watch really good dancers that are already
famous dance with a pro dancer. You do have some
of those, but people like to watch the bad dancers.
People like to watch the dancers that maybe aren't as
good get better. That's a part of that show. So
on two parts, like justice for John Stamos. One he
was making a joke and when I saw page six

(03:32):
pick it up, and I saw E News pick it up,
and I saw.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
I think that's all the channels.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
I think I saw a couple other channels too, these
influencer Instagram accounts to talk about reality shows podcasts. We're
just going hard on John Stamos, saying, oh, you think
you're so good for Dancing with the Stars. They didn't
watch the show, so they're formulating these opinions off of
basically one headline. The headline maker didn't watch the show,

(04:03):
and everybody who's reading that just read the article from
the person who didn't watch the show, and they didn't
watch the show, and now they're going hard on John Stamos.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
And I felt guilty.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Because all the guy did was agreed to come on
my show and be a great interview guest. It was
a wonderful interview, especially considering we weren't in the same room.
And I don't like doing remote interviews because a lot
of those don't go well. They're not bad, but they're
very mid a lot of times because of that communication barrier.

(04:35):
So I did I felt guilty and he texted me
and he said, hey, is the way After the fact,
he was like, boy, we got a little press in
that Dancing with the Stars clip, huh, And I said, yeah, I'm.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Sorry about that.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
And what's frustrating is that nobody watched it and everybody
had a comment on it, and that all the comments
were negative. Honestly, if the comments would have been positive
and not everyone would have watched it, that'd been great, but.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
You know how that goes.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Positive comments don't create engagement. Only negative ones do. And
I even was irritated at people from the Dancing with
the Stars cast for going after John Stamos because they
didn't watch it. You don't have to watch it, but
if you're not gonna watch it, don't comment on it.
Like I wrote on my Instagram, it's like watching the

(05:24):
trailer for a movie and then given a movie review you.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Didn't even watch it. And I saw.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Sharna and I don't think it was coming from any
place other than she was just defending the show. But
you could tell she didn't watch it because she was
going hard on John Stamos, saying I'm not gonna let
you insult, and she was saying nice things about me
but she didn't watch it, and so I'm in this
weird place where I think this Sharna was a little
bit out of turn with what she was saying because

(05:53):
he was kidding. And then Alfonso Robero comments on something
it's like, if you don't want to be on our show,
we don't want them. So it really turned into something
that it shouldn't have that I felt guilty about, and
I just wanted to say, leave John Stamos alone. And
for the most part, I think hopefully we're beyond that now.

(06:16):
It would be funny now if he did Dancing with
the Stars. It would even be funnier if all this
was just publicity to get him on Dancing with the Stars,
Like I'm not so dumb to not have planned all
of this. Like what a great thing to have him
say something like that. We send it to a PR team,
get somebody to print it, everybody starts running with it.

(06:37):
Next thing you know, boom, John Stamios is on and
it's this huge press.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
But it wasn't that, or was it.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Am I just saying that now to Calender, No, if
he does the show, that'll just be because he was
so overwhelmed by the negative press so John Stamos Uncle
Jesse was treated unfairly leave him alone, And I had
a little guilt about that because he came out on
my show. And it also keeps guests from being like
free in interviews, because the worst is when you get

(07:06):
someone and they have to constantly second guess everything they're
saying because they know that any little part of it
might be a headline. Go watch it, go listen to it.
You'll see for yourself. It was a fantastic, fantastic episode.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
I was asked by a couple listeners.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
If there were things that I don't or refuse to
say when it comes to the show or commercials. And
I was thinking about this morning because this was in
a commercial that I was supposed to read and I
didn't say it, but I was doing a commercial and
one of the lines was, Hey, trust me, you can

(07:43):
trust da da da da da da. One thing that
I will not say in a commercial at any point ever,
is trust me, because nothing sounds more like a used
car salesman. Then go and trust me. I want you
to trust me because you literally do, because we've spent
enough time together, you listening to a podcast show, watching
these videos, consuming whatever, content that you trust me based

(08:05):
on I've said things that turned out to be accurate,
or I've said things that I truly believed accurate or not,
but you know I actually believed them. So one of
them is trust me. I will not say that in
a commercial. Number two is tell them Bobby sent you.
It's the worst. And this is such a nineteen eighties

(08:28):
commercial technique. And I don't always think it's the business's fault.
Sometimes I think it's the copyright writer's fault or the
sales team's fault, because I will they're called spots, we
call them spots. I'll get these spots in and it's
for a brand that I'm very comfortable with that either
I use or someone close to me uses, because I

(08:51):
won't really take them otherwise. And it'll say da da
da da, and tell them Bobby sent you.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
I almost say it now.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
I used to say it, but what it is now
is basically a promo code. Because you know, if you
get something on Instagram or if you hear a podcast,
I say promo code, Bobby. What that's going to do
is it's going to track to see if people heard
you say it. Use the promo code. It's not even
that you're really going to get a deal. You might

(09:24):
sometimes sometimes there are literal deals, sometimes not. It's just
a tracker to see what podcasts are sending the most
people to this place.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
And this is the early version of that.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
But I've never been to a single business where I've
told the person at the business so and so sent me,
unless it's like my cousin working there or something. So
I realized a long time ago that if I said, Hey,
go to McDonald's, but tell him Bobby sent you, you might
go to McDonald's because I gave a pretty compelling argument
as to why McDonald's is really good. But even if

(09:57):
you go because I told you, it's gonna feel stupid
if you go, hey, Bobby sent me, because they're gonna go, huh,
who's Bobby Why? Okay, So I don't say that anymore,
but I think that was in the eighties a way
to track who was successfully doing a good enough job

(10:17):
at commercials to send people places.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
But they still write them.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Today, and it blows my mind, and I will remove them,
and then I will get no going. Hey, you forgot
to say hey, telling Bobby sent you, And then I
will say I did not forget to say tell them
Bobby sent you.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
I will not say telling Bobby sent you.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Because even if they did go because I'm a recommendation,
they're not going to say that. And when they don't
say that, people are going to hold that against me
because there aren't people coming in going tell them Bobby
sent you. So those are really the only two things
that I don't say during commercials as a general rule.
I was looking at the guests for the Bobby Cast
over January up until this point, and as I record this,

(10:58):
we're in the middle of July, and people are always
interested in like, who are the biggest guests. And I
did make a comment a few weeks ago that I
don't necessarily need guests. I like to have great guests
because I think we both benefit from each other. Guests
will come in with something to promote, some great stories
to tell, maybe they get a few Instagram followers because

(11:19):
of it. And I also am able to have a
great guest on and give you, guys my audience really
compelling content.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
But I don't need guests.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
There was a time in the radio show where I
was asked, Hey, why are you not putting anybody on?

Speaker 2 (11:34):
And my answer was.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
I think if we're just doing our show, people are
more entertained by that than they are with specific guests
that we're trying to come on the show.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
But that's not always the case.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
But I do have the top ten guests on the Bobbycast.
And the reason I bring this up is that the
number one and number two best performing podcasts of the
entire year on the bobbycastre it's it's me and my
wife just talking.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
It's me and my wife talking about.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Before she got no I guess she was pregnant, but
before she had our baby, and then the one after
the baby, and they by far dwarf any of the
celebrity episodes. Now, there's some great celebrity episodes that I'm
gonna share with you here, and I don't want to
take anything away from them, but three of the next
top seven are just me talking about myself. Now, I'm

(12:27):
not gonna put those in this top ten list because
I'm gonna do celebrities. But when people were busting my
balls saying now you need guests, I.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Don't need guests. I like to have really great guests
because they're fun.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
If they're awesome, it's super fun because then I just
don't have to talk all the time.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
But here we go. Top ten.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Number one this year has been Kane Brown, he got
the gold medal A plus episode. All these are up
if you want to go check them out. Number two
was Ashley mcbrie one where she was so open and
honest about her sobriety and her journey to it. And
I really like Ashley as a person, and I thought

(13:10):
that episode really did well, and that one has continued
to do well, like consistently over time.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
What happens a lot of times, too.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Is these episodes on a podcast feed, they get so
far up the feed that people don't really see them
anymore because we're not going to go searching, you know,
pull the old search bar back, they'll toggle bar. But
people keep finding the Ashley McBride episode. It's really great.
Number three is Tom bergeron speaking of Dancing with the
Stars from earlier. That was fun because it was the
first time that Tom and I had talked since we

(13:40):
had our little immature spat where I was equally at
fault as he was, and it was the first time
that we had spoken since that, and I wanted that
to be on camera. I didn't want us to prepare anything,
and you know, talk with each other before. Like the
first time that we saw each other after our little
I had to say fight because this is all wrestling

(14:02):
to me, like none of this really matters.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Was whenever the cameras came on.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
I love that guy, Luke Combs at four at number five,
Morgan Evans, he came in, talked about his past relationship,
his life, a lot of that with him kind of
pouring it all out there. Something that's very interesting is
that I keep two phones, not because I'm cool and

(14:31):
need them both, but because my old number is a
number that I still have connected to certain accounts that
sometimes they have to send me that four digit code,
and so I don't want to get rid of the number.
And I'm sure there's an easier way than just keeping
a second phone line. So sometimes it's like you, we're
going to send you this verification code and I'm like,
oh man, it's my old number, so go back to it,
and I find that I type it in And after

(14:55):
that Morgan Evans interview, probably about a month after, I
got a text message from you know who that was
not very happy with that Morgan have his interview. It
wasn't a month after. I think it was like the
day after it came out, but I don't see it
because it was a month afterward.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
I don't ever check that phone unless I have a
reason too.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
But it was a pretty long one, and it started with, Hey,
I know you're gonna screenshot this and post it.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
But what am I gonna screenshot and post a text message? Crap?

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Also, I didn't do anything wrong, he didn't do anything wrong.
Like we get to tell and by we all of
us get to tell our versions of our stories if
someone asks us. So Yeah, fun fact, I got a
full one of those really long ones where you see
it and you go, oh my god, I gotta read
all this and I did from you know who. And

(15:47):
to also think I was gonna screenshot a text message,
I don't do that.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
I've never done that.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
I've never screenshoted a DM someone sent me that was
supposed to be private. I never greenshot a text message.
This is that is not my style in any way.
Am I really great at getting pressed when I need it?
Absolutely a plus. But it's never at the cost of
anyone else, of anyone else's privacy. If anyone else says, hey,
please don't share this. But I think I never responded

(16:21):
because I didn't see it for a month or so later,
And that wasn't on purpose, because had it been to
my phone that day, I probably would have responded and said, oh, man,
I'm sorry you felt that way. But I do feel
like he gets to tell his part of the story
and he's also a friend, Like both of those things
matter to me.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
So yeah, that's kind of a crazy one.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Top five though of the year Morgan Evans, Marianna van Zeller,
who had a ton of great stories about the cartel
spending time with the cartel hackers, black Market, Kenny Chesney
at seven, Heather McMahon, the comedian at eight, Megan Maroney
at nine, Doctor Unger the plastic surgeon in the top ten,

(17:03):
which was really cool. So country is still the king
here as far as guests, six out of the top
ten or country artists Tom bergeron huge numbers considering he's
a non musician. Marianna just also proves that compelling storytellers
and journalists they're good. If they're good at talking about it, man,

(17:25):
people are gonna love their stories. And you know, the
episodes with Caitlin or even the end. The Weeds episodes
do tremendously well, and it's just me here, yap and away.
Sometimes I finish and I'm not even sure what I
was saying the whole time. So that's the ranking of

(17:46):
the biggest guests. I get a lot of questions about
either me getting sued or me suing anyone, and I
can answer both of those. And you guys can put
your comments and your questions down in the comments section,
and if there are questions, I try to look through

(18:07):
them and go back and answer as many as I can.
It's where I get a lot of information for this
because I want to answer the questions that you guys
want to know. And so yeah, I get a decent
amount of questions asking about either me suing or getting sued.
I've only ever been sued once, and I can tell
you that story. This is probably twenty five or so

(18:27):
years ago, and I got on the air. I was
in Austin, and I said, Hey, I'm going to do
this April Fools bit, and just so you guys know
what's listening, I'm gonna do the bit. You're gonna be
in on the joke and we'll see what happens. And
so I play a song and I come back and
I say, hey, it looks like we've got Justin Timberlake's

(18:48):
like choreographer here. And so I had a listener on
and the listener like, yeah, we're working for Justin Timberlake.
I'm looking for some dancers, any background dncers that want
to come have them come up to your studio.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
I didn't know they were going to say that part,
but whatever, and I'm like okay.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
So then people just started lining up at the studio
and so they're up there and I'm talking to them
on the air. I'm like, you guys want to be
in the Justin timber later yeah, and I'm like, April
fools whatever, stupid bit long time ago. And so somebody
sued me for that, me and my program director at
the time, named Jay, except what happened was we got

(19:24):
served as Bobby Bones and Jay Shannon, and that's neither
of our real names. So that was an issue. Secondly,
there it was thrown out almost immediately. We quote settled
for concert tickets that we had in the station. So

(19:45):
we gave them concert tickets and they were like, okay,
we're all good. That's really been the only time I
don't want to jinx it. But have I been threatened?

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (19:53):
About once every three months somebody threatens to sue. I
think a lot of times when someone is threatened they're
going to be sued, they start acting differently because they
don't want to have that financial burden of it.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Even if they're right. They don't want to go through
the process.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
If I'm right and I get sued, I'm going to
get so much press out of it because I'm fine,
I have enough money to go to Let's have a lawsuit,
and you're gonna end up paying all my legal fees
back once I win, and I'm going to milk it
so hard that utter will be shooting out blood by

(20:32):
the time it's over. So that's it on that part.
That's the only time that I've ever been sued, and
it was I guess I have never been sued. Bobby Bones,
the personality, was attempted to be sued, and in the
end we went to the prize closet and said, here's
some mid concert tickets and that was it. Have ever

(20:56):
sued anybody? No, I'm not religious person at all. I
prepared to sue someone in the past six to nine
months or so. So what happened was I get a
call from a friend says, hey, there's this artist and

(21:20):
I won't say I don't want to give too many details,
like specific details. So say, there's this artist on a
certain program saying these things about you, and I don't
think they're true, but I'm just asking because it's happening
right now live, and it was happening live, but it
was being recorded for a different time. And I was like, no,
that's not true at all, and the person said, okay,

(21:43):
just so you should know though this is all being said.
I was like, you serious, So finished my show. Call
the person back, say tell me again what was said,
And what was said was this artist knew ish artist
was claiming that they weren't successful in the music industry

(22:05):
because I wouldn't play their music and I wouldn't meet
them into a music meeting with them, and that my
position would meet with new artists, do music meetings and
then pick the music that would be played, and because
of that, they weren't allowed to have a successful career

(22:29):
because I had been shutting them out. Now there's a
little more to that, but any more details are gonna
probably shine a light on who it is. Now, why
that is just wholly inaccurate? Is I am in no
way music director. I've never had a single meeting with
an artist to talk about adding songs. You know why,

(22:51):
because I don't add songs. I do nothing with music.
In my contract, I have one hour a weekend that
I have dedicated to play female artists on a national show.
Now in that I don't even program that whole show,
and so in that I picked two songs a week

(23:16):
because the rest is programmed by Research and are head
of the format. So the only thing musically that I've
ever done is negotiate a one hour nationally. Other than that,
I don't meet with artists. I've never rejected an artist
to have a meeting about new music because I don't
meet about new music. So I universally don't even get

(23:38):
asked because I would never agree to that. So I
think they we're just looking for like the biggest name
to yell at that they could go, look, I'm being
victimized by this.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Name, which was crazy.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
So call my people, I said, if this hits and
it plays at all publicly, I'm much do the crap
out of them, because that is it's wildly false. In
no way is at my job. In no way is
it something I have ever done. There was all talk about, Yeah,

(24:16):
you take barbecue up to the station, he sits with
you and listens to your music.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
And never once has anything like that happened.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Does it happen with radio music directors around the country,
I'm sure it does. I have never It's never been
about music for me. Do I enjoy country music, yes?
Do I program it? In no way whatsoever? Can I
take a song and just play it because I like
it occasionally? Yeah, But I never wanted to be in
chart of the music because I never wanted to play
that game. There was a time in my early days
where I'd find songs I liked and go, this song's awesome,

(24:46):
and then it would pop, and then I would leave
it alone. And I had some real success stories with
songs that blew up because way early on it said
this one song. But I don't have the ability to
add songs to anything ever other than my show, and
I don't want people always coming to me to play music.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
So I left a lot of details out.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
But that's the closest I've ever been to suing someone
because what I felt was happening was they just needed
a bad guy, and I was unlucky enough to be
the person they picked that day, and they went on
this national platform and we're like, Boby Bones wouldn't meet
with me about my new music. I've never met with

(25:26):
a single person about music ever, nor will. I'm not
a music director, don't want to be in the music game.
I do content, that's it. But had it hit, had
it aired, I would assued just to set the precedent
of you can't go and just lie and also pissed
me off. So I've been both. You can't just go

(25:49):
and lie about stuff openly. So that's the closest I've
ever been for suing anyone. I'm want to read some questions.
This is from DZ.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
I don't know. I think this.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Maybe it's a body account, but they're asking specific things.
But their name is d zbd ZB sixteen. Yeah, why
would you even have that name? But I don't know.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
I'm curious.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
While Bobby hires the women he does for the show,
he definitely seems to have a type in regards to work.
While they each are amazing, strong women, he seems to
prefer they are airheaded and wishy, washy. Kaylin seems to
be very smart, a witty person, so it's not a
general life preference. Does he design it this way so
we can not challenge himself? I think the show would
be much better if he hired very intelligent, quick witted women.

(26:39):
What I would imagine here is this person thinks they're
a very intelligent, quick witted woman and they are not.
That's what I would imagine here. This is someone who's
upset that they're not able to do something. Amy's very smart.
I don't know what you want from me. No. I
hire people that I think are interesting, compelling, funny, and
don't tell me that Amy's not all that. So what

(27:01):
I think is this is not even a shot at
the women on the show.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
I think this is you upset at your life.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
I saw Caitlin Bristow doing something kind of funny on
her Instagram the other day.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
I think she had posted a video of her in a.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Swimsuit, and then she came back and she said, hey,
here are some comments from people that made posts about
me when I posted this video on a swimsuit, and
it's people posting really mean things about her. And then
she went and tracked down their faces and put it
up next to the comment, and it was all the
same type of person.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
They were all women, probably like.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
DZBDZB sixteen, because I'm assuming this person here that sent
me this is someone that thinks they're far more intelligent
and witty than they actually are, so they send comments
like this.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
So yeah, there you go. Hek ty.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
The Bobby Cast will be right back, and we're back
on the Bobby Cast.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
From Cheryl Kaiser seventeen thirty three. I like to know
how all the cast of the radio show came together.
I'll watch you all and I think, what a fun group.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
But how do they all meet?

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Okay, I'll start with Amy. And I wrote about this
in my book called Bare Bones. If you want to
hear the or read, listen to the audiobook, or you
can read the book the longer version of it. I
met Amy at a culvers in Austin, in North Austin.

(28:47):
I was getting my tires rotated and I walked over
to a culvers and Amy was there with her friend Andrea,
who I still know, and I met her there. And
then I was looking for a co host and I
did this open casting at the mall and Amy was
at the mall and I'd already met her at Culver's
and so I was like, Hey, why don't you do this?

(29:08):
And she jumped in and she was great. That's how
I met Amy was at a Culver's lunchbox. I met
him at a bar in Austin, and for the first
couple of years, lunchbox didn't have a microphone, and he
wasn't really in the studio that much. He was only

(29:29):
out on the phone calling in doing certain segments. And
not only that, I think at the very beginning he
was only in three days a week, like a Monday, Wednesday,
Friday type thing, because I think he was still working
at Jason's Deli in San Antonio and would drive up
because it was a part time job. We didn't have
any money as a show. But I met him at

(29:51):
a bar. I remember the segment where I thought, Okay,
there's something odd but really attractive about this guy as
far as being on the air, as we had a
women's I think he's a rugby team up in studio
and he arm wrestled one of the women and lost

(30:11):
terribly and still talked so much garbage, and I thought
that guy's funny, like he has no idea, but that's
what makes it funny. So that's those two. Eddie was
my television producer in Austin. So Eddie did not start
by doing anything in radio. He was a television producer
at Emmy Television, which was a music channel that we did.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
It was television. It was kind of a regional in.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
The central Texas area and played a lot of music videos.
And so I got a job there and Eddie was
the producer of that music television show that played videos
and we talked about songs, and so it was just
a random Okay, this is your producer, Eddie, and here's
the guy hosting the show, Bobby. And we did that
show together and then we did kind of a late

(30:57):
night show.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
I might have shared this here. I think I have.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
One of the segments that kind of got our late
night show canceled was you know, they have Chris Hansen
to catch a Predator. We were doing costumes from the
costume store and they were addressed as like characters like
the Lucky Charms guy, the I think Tigger Captain Crunch
and they would show up to the door and I

(31:24):
had like a camera above the door and they were
like dum Tom dum and we'd act like that character
was coming in and then Chris Hanson would come out
and be.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Like, oh, Captain Crunch, what are you doing here? Oh?

Speaker 1 (31:34):
So it was to catch a predator spoof but with
big So this show was canceled. But we did that
for years and he would not be on the radio
show in Austin, but we hung out all the time.
He became my best friend in Austin, and when I
was moving here, I said, hey, you should come to
Nashville with us. Because he was a television producer. He

(31:55):
worked at News eight. He worked at that television station.
That's what he did was TV producer, cameraman and all that.
And I saw a photographer, what you did? I don't
want to talk down and he said, well, my job.
He said, you can run all the cameras for us,
right because we're investing heavily in the digital space.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
We're gonna put cameras on every wall.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
And I knew he wouldn't take the job because he
had not taken the job the multitude of times I
asked him to come and do that job in Austin.
And he also lived in Austin at the time, So
there's no way, he's going to move to Nashville. And
he's like, all right, I'm in wait what And so
the first job Eddie ever had with me in this
world radio podcasting was him moving to Nashville. So that's

(32:40):
how Eddie and I met. Mike d was an interned
for me in Austin. He just messaged me on social
media and said, Hey, how do I get a job
doing something like that? I said, well, well, why don't
you intern? Come on up here? And so he did
and he came up and he enterned forever, and from

(33:00):
that he turned into a board op. When we moved
from Austin to Nashville, he stayed back because he had
a job running maybe different maybe a morning show. He
was doing like weekend boardopping. And I said, once we
get over there and get settled, I will bring you.
And about a year later I said, hey, dude, it's
time to move. And so he did, packed up his crap,

(33:22):
moved Beverly, and I think he moved in with me
for a while because it was hey, I know right now,
you don't have anywhere to stay before you rent a place,
why don't you come to Nashville for a year or
so do the job. You can find a place while
you live here, because it's so much easier to find
a part of town you like when you get to
live there for a bit.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
But yeah, Mike d did that. Ray Mundo was.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
An intern for the Austin Show and we met because
I was filling in on AM thirteen hundred zone the
sports station and I didn't have a producer. He was
actually interning at the sports station and they said, Ray,
is it gonna be your producer the sports show? And

(34:01):
I said that's great, and so we worked together there
and I said, hey, why don't you come actually be
an intern on my show because I think you can
actually do more And he said great, and so he
was that, and he was an intern the whole time.
When we left, he was back, and I remember I
had a meeting with him when we were leaving Texas
to move to Tennessee and I said, hey, man, I

(34:23):
think I have your first job, like paying job.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
He was like really. I said, yeah, are you willing
to move for this job though?

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Because in this business a lot of times you just
have to move and he said, yeah, it doesn't matter
where it is.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
He had no idea.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
It was me or that we were leaving yet, and
I said it's in It's in Tennessee, Like, does that
seem too far? And he was like, nope, I want
to do this business, so whatever the job is, let
me know and I'll go. I said, okay, it's in
Nashville and he said, okay, what other details can you
give me. I said, we're moving to Nashville. I want
you to come and be one of the main producers.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
And he's like, no way.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
So that was Ray Mundo moving with us and doing
that job. So yeah, sure, I'm forgetting people, but that's
mostly how we all came together in that way. I'm
sure there are other stories there. Scooba Steve was just
he used to work for Ryan Seacrest and that was

(35:19):
the time when I had way too much on my plate.
I was traveling a lot.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
I was.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Not just traveling and touring, but I had I was
doing a lot of television in California, and I needed
somebody to delegate to because that was the hardest part
of my job, was actually delegating.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
And trusting people.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
And so Scooba Steve came over and took that job
as executive producer.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Has been here forever and it has been awesome at it.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
So but that was a complete setup, meaning, well, I
guess we interviewed people, but he was the guy, and
you just would not think Scuba Steve would be as
nice or as warm as he is, just because he
kind of looks like a devil worshper, meaning he's got
a bald head and he wears shirts with like, I
don't know, pointy things on it, and he's got a
big beard, and so you're thinking, man, this guy must

(36:02):
like stabcats or something. Really the loveliest guy, great leader.
So that's that from Nora Dune seventy twelve. When you
decide to write a book or pursue another avenue, how
do you rebalance your plate or what can you comfortably
step back from for a moment to put more efforts

(36:23):
somewhere else. Mostly I just have to recalibrate myself about
every six months and decide what is the most important.
I only have so much energy, especially now that I
have a baby, So there are certain things that I
do as hard and as much as I possibly can,

(36:43):
Like I don't travel as much to do as many
one off television shows as I used to, Like I
was mercenary for hire for a long time, and I
get calls and I go, do this show, Go do
that show, one show at a time, two episodes of this.
I don't do that as much because it really breaks
up what we're doing here, especially when the Netflix still
was signed, especially with you know, the Bobby cast. The
bibone show is still by far the most important thing

(37:04):
I've written a book in a long time, because I
don't have capacity for it, and I feel like if
I don't have capacity for it, and I don't feel
good about the effort and energy I'm putting into it,
it's not going to be good. And I don't want
to put something out that's not good. You know something
else that I really haven't shared is that so with
twenty five Whistles, our sports show like that was never
supposed to be a show. I didn't really have interest

(37:24):
in doing a sports show at all. And DraftKings came
along and said, hey, we want you to come and
do a show for us, five days a week, and
they offer me a lot of money, seven figures, and
I said, I don't have the capacity to do that
because it will not be good and I don't want

(37:45):
to do it. And you guys be disappointed and me
not being able to give you the numbers that you're
paying for. So I said no to it, and they
said all right, And I didn't hear from them for
about a month or so, and they came back and
they said, what can you do? And I said, I
can do an episode a week, one episode a week podcast,
And obviously the money was gonna be well less if

(38:08):
it was just one episode a week, and so we
ended up settling on two episodes a week, and DraftKings
is a major part of that show for about eight
months out of the year because during the summer, like now,
like what are you betting on? There's really nothing because
football is not happening, College basketball is not happening.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
You're not really beat on baseball.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
So for those eight months or so, they're a massive
sponsor for the other four months or not so during
this four months, and who knows if they come back
on it, because they've been a great partner for the
past few years. But for this four month span, I've
been doing one episode and then I do the first
fifteen or twenty minutes of that second episode, and I

(38:50):
let Eddie and Kevin and Mike do it without me,
so they can develop their skills at doing a show
without me having to host the whole thing. Also because
I know I am extremely pressed right now for time,
and not even in a bragging way and not in
a whining way. It's just I keep everything on a schedule,
and that second show was really biting me in the butt.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
But I wanted to set them up for success.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
And give them an avenue to get better at what
they're doing, and also for people to hear the first
fifteen minutes and not turn it off because it wasn't
me hosting it. So there are times where I do
have to reprioritize. I've mentioned before that has offered a
pretty big book deal recently, and I just did not
take it because I did not feel that I had
it in me to create something that I felt passionate

(39:34):
about and that I could do a good job with.
So if I do decide to write another book, I'll
have to remove something at this point because all my
hours are eaten up and I don't want to do
bad work.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
I'd rather do no work than bad work.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
So it's never comfortable, though, Because your question was, how
do you comfortably step back It's never comfortable because I
also feel like I'm letting people down when I do
step back from certain things. Meaning if I just pulled
off of a full episode of twenty five whistles, let's
say we just didn't do that episode, Well, that's money
that the guys aren't getting paid. So if I go, hey,

(40:12):
we're just doing Want a week, that's fifty percent of
what we're not doing. We're not getting paid for anymore
because there's no commercial, so there's no pay for anybody.
So those are difficult decisions whenever what I'm doing and
not doing happens to affect other.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
People, Hank tight the Bobby Cast will be right back,
and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
I got two more here. I love these, definitely there
to the end. This is from Cindy Trout sixty six
four to one. What's Eddie's title or job? I didn't
hear you mentioned him in the producer segment you did
on a past episode. Would also be interested to know
how you guys met in how long? I guess we
did that part already so I can tell you. Eddie's

(41:06):
job is he is had a video so it's actually
quite a skill. He has a switcher in his hand
because he's also a co host on the show, and
that just kind of happened organically because he was always
there with a microphone. But Amy had to leave for

(41:26):
a month here, a couple months there because her dad died,
her mom was sick, had some personal things. And the
number one rule of our show is if you ain't
good for you, you ain't gonna be good for me.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
So you go take care of yourself. So there will be.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Times where I would say, Amy, you just got to
go away for a couple months, and you're good.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
I promise it, you're good.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
You'll come back and you just fall back into your
spot and we just keep rolling. And so I could
trust Eddie when talking to really just set me up
and be funny with me, because he has a very
quick wit.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Eddie's I'm not going to be a guy that is
so outrageous.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
He makes you laugh, but I don't think there's anybody
on that show that's funnier than Eddie.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
But he's not looking for the attention. So he made
me better.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
And that's why we're in a comedy group together too, though, honestly,
because he's that funny and also our styles together allow
me to be funnier. So, but his job is he's
head video producer, runs all the cameras in the studio,
and as we're talking and everybody's talking, he's pushing little
buttons to go to every single camera while he's also
talking as well.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
So final one from a Carter eighty one thirty one.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
Can you explain the evolution of playing live music on
the podcast or any music at all? Some of my
favorite performances were when used to be allowed to air
live music or any music at all. I miss those
days and don't understand why and what happened for it
to change. Thank you love all your content. So a
few years ago we were told you can't put anything

(42:57):
on the podcast that would possibly be on demand for
the artists that would cost them money for being on
your podcast. That terrible way to say that. But we
would play games with music, name that tune games. We
play a bunch of music game. I love music, so
we play a lot of music games. We had to

(43:18):
pull all those from the podcast because if we played
any part of any song, anybody could go to that
song and listen to it for free when to hear
it anywhere else?

Speaker 2 (43:24):
They had to pay for it.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
We were giving them a free avenue to hear that
artist's music, which it's not cool. It's not cool to
give everybody something free that you have to pay for
it to get from the artist.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
The artist is creating it. So same thing with live music.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
So we had to cut all live music, any licensed
anything music wise, we have to cut. So if you
have to find a Weezer the Sweater song, let's say
they played it on our show and you really wanted
to hear it, well, you either have to have a
streaming service or buy it or go to YouTube to
listen to it. And that's either you paying money or

(43:59):
you get time and like watching a commercial on YouTube
to hear that song, or you can just go to
our podcast and get it for free.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Just you can't do that.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
We were giving people for free what they had to
pay for everywhere else, and that wasn't fair to the artist.
Now that was a it's very difficult for us because
we had to change how we did everything. But yeah,
we can't put any music on the podcast anymore. So
we can put it on YouTube, and we do. If
someone performs in studio, that's where it goes. YouTube because
they have a different licensing agreement. And also if we

(44:28):
put it on our YouTube channel, the artist gets to
monetize that music for themselves on our page. So ashtonmy
Bride comes on and she plays the song, We're not
going to get the money for her playing that song
on our YouTube. She's going to get to monetize that
on our page. We might get followers from it. People

(44:48):
that are subscribers might be fulfilled by watching that on
our Bobby Bone Show YouTube page, but we can't put
anything up that you'd have to pay for to get
in another way, could have explained that terribly. Might have
done a better job if I had have practiced ahead
of time, but I don't practice ahead of time. So
that's what's up. Thank you guys for listening, Thank you

(45:10):
for watching. I encourage everybody to do two things. One
be nice to John Stamos, he did not deserve that,
and two stay weedy. Okay, until next time, everybody.

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