July 23, 2026 • 55 mins
Entrepreneur and social media expert Gary Vaynerchuk sits down with Bobby to break down what it actually takes to become a successful creator in today’s crowded online world. He explains why quantity, persistence and a willingness to be judged can matter just as much as talent. Gary also shares his outlook on the future of AI, how everyday people can begin using it to their advantage and why resisting new technology could leave them behind. Plus, they discuss America’s political division, the public’s growing exhaustion with constant outrage, the importance of personal accountability and why Gary remains optimistic that respect and civility are beginning to return.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Had it not been a vehicle for my business hopes
and dreams, I don't even know if I would be
a person that had social media. I'm one of the
most prolific content creators of the last twenty years. I
share nothing personal. I'm actually wildly inherently private.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hey, everybody, Bobby here. On this episode, we have Gary
Vaynerchuk or Gary Vee, and I consume a lot of
this guy's content. It just pops up in my feed
as somebody who enjoys sports cards. He's there. He's an entrepreneur,
he's an investor. I mean, he's a content machine. And
sometimes he just gets up on like curses in front
of people and they're like, yeah, we support you. I
(00:45):
don't even know, but like I'm a fan. And so
I was in New York and I was like, Hey,
do you want to come on the podcast? And he
says yeah, And so we talk about all kinds of stuff,
first how someone could be an influencer. Then it turned
into a whole talk on AI and they're really for me.
Was no agenda going into this other than to see
what Gary Vee had to say about stuff. He's built, businesses,
(01:06):
he's invested in companies like Uber and Twitter before most
people knew what they were. He's launched one of the
biggest marketing agencies in the world. Massive New York Jets
fan and a Knicks fan, and whenever we were doing this,
I think he's were on a Knick shirt. Because we
did this couple a few weeks ago. It was before
the Knicks had won it all. So I bet you
he's been very happy since this. So here he is
(01:27):
a guy that I've consumed a lot of his content
for many reasons. They're great, Gary Vee, Gary, good to
see you, Great to see you. I have a lot
of people that like follow on social media and I
don't have the answers, but they're like, how do I
become an influencer? And mostly what I've been able to
say is I'm gonna talk to Gary v real soon
because you don't want you don't want my advice, but
I consume so much of what you put out that's
(01:49):
very kind. So if someone had that basic question of
how do I start and be an influencer, what would
you tell them?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
The two things that always stand out for me are
passion and knowledge. So let's name it the PK framework,
right like, I think there's only two ways to become
someone that people follow. You're so passionate or talented, I
think we can add a tea in there, like you're
just so inherently funny and so talented. I think the
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reason I always go to passion is there's a lot
of people that are talented. But if you don't have
the passion to get there, the drive, the energy, it's
too hard. It's actually too hard. You know. Right now, currently,
as you probably know, four billion people are trying to
become famous. I think we can both agree that four
billion people have not achieved it. It's actually shockingly easy
(02:42):
and shockingly hard to make it. Right now, what's the
easy part? The easy part is distribution has been commoditized.
There's no gatekeeper. You know, when our grandpapies were growing up,
if they wanted to be known, they had to go
to Hollywood or New York and someone had to discover them.
Say yes, so many people gate kept distribution. The Internet
(03:04):
is now distribution. And if you're Sally Pants McGee in
Peru right now and you have a smartphone an Internet connection,
you have the ability to start making content that for
some whatever reason, people give a crap about, and that
is a level of meritocracy that I think is intoxicating.
So that's changed dramatically.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I feel the same thing with the music because I
live in Nashville, and so a lot of new artists
or artists that maybe aren't new but haven't hit yet,
they're talking about, Hey, how do I make it? And
it's like, you have every opportunity because even ten years ago, correct,
it was you had to be signed to a record
label because you had to have distribution. But now it's
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universal distribution.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yes, and the previews were there a long time ago.
I don't know what just happened, but it triggered me
to a story. Mike Boyd, who is a very senior
executive in my marketing company in the music division, met
my brother the first day of college back in ninety
two thousand and you know, nine or two excuse me,
two thousand and five, and my brother calls me and says,
(04:09):
this kid knows everything about music. I said, challenge him,
tell him to tell you a musician right now that
eventually will get famous. He told him. Three years later,
we're driving to a Jets preseason game listening to Hot
ninety seven and my brother freaks out and I don't
know why, and he's like, oh my god, Gary, do
you remember my freshman year when you said thank you
so much to ask Mike Boyd, who's gonna pop? It's
(04:34):
this person. That person was Soldier Boy and Mike boy
found him on MySpace. Really really, so even back in
five six, you know, I think back to young Jock
Rick Ross all gold everything, how that song for Trinidad
James blew up. You started to see some cracks. But
now to your point, like TikTok is real discovery. Every
(04:56):
A and R is living on there. They want to
see it work before they take the risk. It's not
going to a bar at two in the morning and
being like Moley Cruz gonna make it. And so yeah,
I mean I tell artists all the time, and I
have a lot of fun receipts on the internet gonna
dough chy sweetie, people that were so early in their
careers where I'm like, you have a shot, But this
is what you need to do. And it's the answer
(05:17):
to your opening question, which is and this is going
to hurt a lot of people's feelings. Quantity is a
secret part of the equation that everybody who has pride
does not want to admit is true. There's this inherent
conflict between quality and quantity that so many artists and
(05:37):
ideological individuals want to uphold. But the truth is, quantity
is an incredible ingredient in breaking through. It is really
at bats at making the piece of content that changes
your life. And I'm a very big believer in it.
(05:58):
Now people will make ten thousand pieces of shit and
never make it. Quality has to be a part of
the equation. But you'll appreciate this quality is subjective, what
is handsome, what is attractive, what is front right. Quantity
is not. And while we have this era of social
media where you can post something with nine followers and
(06:20):
get four million views, I hope everyone understands that is
out of control. That is a mitzvah. That is a
wild phenomenon. And I think many will regret when they
look back at their lives realize they were born during
a time of opportunity and merit that was never pre available.
And I actually predict there'll be an era where the
(06:41):
glasses or some other medium will come along and change
our world, and that the cell phone with the internet,
with social media was an incredible gold rush of opportunity
for people that had passion, knowledge or talent, hopefully the
mix of the three, and that's how you become the
Lebrons and the Beyonces. And I think that's where we're
(07:01):
at right now.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Brother.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I think when you say quality, some people will be
intimidated by the word going I don't know if I
have quality or if it's good enough to me. What
I would often say is change the word quality for compelling.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah, right, it's fair.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
It doesn't have to be that you're the greatest guitar
player or you're the greatest speaker. I don't feel like
I am a technically a wonderful speaker. But I can
sell out theaters. I can do a national I do
a national radio show, I do the show on Netflix. Netflix.
I'm not a great speaker, but I can say things
that people find compelling, or I can tell my story
that I find compelling. I think that's what quality is.
(07:36):
Two folks, how are you compe How does it resonate
whether you use.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
The semantics of changing the word quality to compelling. It
comes down to self esteem versus insecurity.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
What do you mean I'm wildly insecure?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Which is often one of the ways to get to
the top. I think about this all the time. It's
wild to see extreme and then even high levels of
insecurity or confidence get you to a place. I would
say that if you tell someone who's like scared when
Gary said quality, that if they're insecure and you're telling
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them compelling, they're still like, well, I'm not compelling and
they just changed the word. You know. My question, very
simply to start off this podcast immediately, is when are
you all willing to get the fuck out of high school?
When are you ready to not live your life based
on some random person's comment or your neighbor thinking it's
silly that you're talking about skateboarding even though you're a
(08:33):
forty eight year old dude, Like, when are you ready
to just jump into the pool, kiss the girl, ride
the bike without training wheels? Like when are you ready
to be grown and see through something that's in your belly?
You feel like you want to be out there? By
the way, on the record, I don't think everyone should
be out there. I'll tell you something interesting about me.
(08:56):
Had it not been a vehicle for my business hopes
and dreams, I don't even know if I would be
a person that had social media. I don't know if
you know this. I'm one of the most prolific content
creators in the last twenty years. I share nothing personal.
I'm actually wildly inherently private. You know. I was born
in the Soviet Union. I grew up in a household
that privacy was high valued. Had this not been about
(09:18):
using notoriety and awareness to create opportunity for me professionally
and for business purposes, I actually understand why so many
people would never attempt to be known. I would have
been one of those people. In fact, I never thought
I would ever be known. I thought I'd be a
business person. The calculus of the world changed. The Internet, YouTube,
(09:39):
Twitter kind of really allowed me to see it. I
was in the right place mentally and strategically at the
right time. But yeah, I mean, I think this is
a self esteem insecurity game. To your point, if you
have enough insecurity, you use it.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
It's a weapon.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
It's a weapon you want to prove everyone wrong if
you have enough, if you got lucky like me, your
circumstances of dnaight where you grew up, and ultimately the
parents you had, and specifically for me my mom, Mine's
like the other side of that pillow, there's like a cell.
There's such an extreme level of contentness and curiosity, and
I just feel good and at some level I feel guilty.
(10:17):
I feel like my mom did so right by me
that I kind of use Gary Ve to do right
by the world. It's almost my homage to my mom.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Now, you talked about what was easy, no gatekeepers, But
what's the hard because you said it can be easy
and hard at the same time.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Oh, it's hard because you're competing with the entire fucking world.
There's someone prettier posting right now. There's someone smarter, There's
someone more compelling with their words. There's someone with more tenacity,
there's some more grit, there's someone with more opportunity, circumstance, serendipity.
This is pure merit.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
What do you find about people that succeed in art
and that can be music, It could be any kind
of influencer. What do you think the through line? Is there.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Something out of whack?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, that's what I say.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
It's that's right. Now, here's where it gets. I think,
you know, I feel like revibing. I think you're gonna
really resonate what I'm about to say, if those screws
are loose in the right way, then you have sustained success.
If the screws are too extremely insecure, like they're just levels,
(11:25):
if you're like blisteringly insecure. Oftentimes, when you get that
validation financially, you get the guy, you get the girl,
you get the house, you get the fame, it all
fucking That's why we've seen so many people burn there.
They had the wrong screw loose and so but yeah,
I think something enigma, something out of you know. I
(11:45):
know I can speak for myself. I got fortunate that
I was going through the school system in the eighties
where they couldn't have diagnosed all the things they feed
pills to kids. For now, I was completely out of control.
I didn't pay attention for shit. I was too passionate
about my sports cards and my lemonade stand and being
social and being friends, and I didn't give a fuck
(12:06):
about Saturn or the periodic table.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
But that worked out for you and for me. It's
in a bit of an outlier type way. Like I
was that kid who got to have napster and having
and I grew up in the South where until Napster
you got what was at the stores correct, and what
was at the stores was mostly a little bit of
(12:29):
hip hop, a little bit of rock, but mostly country.
And I grew up on country music, but I had
Napster now and so now now I got everything. And
then even with podcasting, I was twenty one or twenty two,
and I was one of the youngest to do like
a morning show on a major market, and people were like,
this kid's so ahead of his time because he's podcasting
in two thousand and eight. But it was no. I
was just my twenties.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
You just knew it.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
I was just doing it naturally because I'm my age,
by the way, same way.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
You know what's funny, I am one of those weird
ones where I act down like just because I'm a consumerist,
meaning I also was podcasting. Back then, I didn't have
the serendipity of age. I had the obsession of being
consumer centric. I demonized nothing. Do you know many people
have become their grandma. You made fun of your grandma
(13:17):
back in the day for not having a cell phone
or using Aol instant messenger, and now you're doing the
same thing with AI because you're grown. You're demonizing the
new shit motherfuckers. You became your grandma like you literally
made fun of her twenty years ago for not knowing
how to use the new shit, and now you're like,
fuck AI. It's like it's it's it's not right.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
And I've made the comparison to when streaming was happening
people were screaming at it because no, this is where discworld,
when downloading was happening. AI is now that And now.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
To be fair to everyone who's demonizing AI, this one's big.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Didn't they say that about when Napster or LimeWire or
we can Go.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
That was a small that was an industry that was
upset about losing its money. This is more like electricity
and the internet itself. This is a This is a
technology that's going to affect literally every single person, Like
right now is we're filming this, there's six of us
in the room. Every one of us, what we do
for a living is going to be affected by AI
(14:23):
over the next decade. Now I'm the person that believes
if the six of us are good enough, we adjust,
We adjust. You know, where was everybody when the search
engine was invented? In one hundred thousand yellow pages, salesman
got blown out. Where was everybody when Amazon was ravaging
through local bookstores? The reason everyone's on tilt right now.
(14:47):
I don't know if you saw all the commencement speeches
right they booed, they boot every every I was so
glad I had one two years ago. I would have
been dead. Now I'm good because I'm improv I would
adjusted to be like, yeah, you're right, fuck AI. But
these people still to their script and we're getting murdered.
People are scared, and I'm empathetic to that. It is
never exciting to be like, can I lose my job?
(15:07):
How do I pay for my kids, my rent, my debt?
I just ask everyone, if you've stumbled on this podcast
and you just have, you know, you could have been anywhere.
You're with us right now, walking the dog in the gym,
in the car. Use AI. Don't fear it because if
you put your head in the ground, somebody using it
is going to take your job, not it, And so
(15:28):
I just implore everyone to play with it because it's
an inevitable like technology laughs at human opinion.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
It always has.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
It, always has it laughs like do you know stupid
Metallica looks historically like do you know bad that receipt
for Bill Gates has got his own headaches, but like
the receipt on him on Letterman, like everybody who tries
to fight technologies and advancements because they're worried about their
money always looks silly. So for me, it's kind of like,
(15:59):
if you love the game, you gotta love the game,
not what it does for you. I like feel like
I bring this up a lot of trains of Big
Star Wars nerds, so I think he knows where I'm
going because I use this analogy a lot. When Obi
Wan's like willing to die to Darth Vader for the
better cause of the Jedi game. That's how I feel
as an entrepreneur. If AI was the technology that was
going to come along and fuck me up right now
(16:22):
and destroy all my businesses, I'm ready. I'm ready to
go back to a studio apartment in Queens and rebuild
because I can't love the game. I can't love capitalism
and entrepreneurship and merit and truth and the game only
when it benefits me. I have to love it purely,
and so I've been really enjoying all these entrepreneurs and
(16:43):
capitalists and free market people be exposed for bitches. I
love it. I love all these people like it should
be merit, it should be merit. But now that AI
might come and get them, they're like, wait a minute,
where's Yeah, when you're getting fucked, you're like, where's the regulation? Well,
it's like the whole the thing. It's why I put
the fuck the police thing was never gonna work. It's like, oh,
(17:03):
police police. But then when you're getting fucked, you're like, well, yo,
what nine one one? Motherfucker?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, it's like no taxes, my house on fire, I
need the fire department.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
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and we're back on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Do you think people that are creating AI have humanity
in mind at all? Like the Sam all ish.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Ish, I think. I think it's really fun to create villains.
I think people need like I think just how humans
are we want to villainize people? I think a couple
things News Alert. Do I think people have self interest? Yes?
I do. But do I think like people are inherently
direct pieces of shit and want death from everyone? I
(17:53):
do not. Of course, there's some tough people that have
come along in history. But I don't think Sam's sitting
there and be like, Oh, this is awesome to get
all the money and everyone's gonna be fucked. First of all,
I think the technology is so bad. If you really
know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I don't know what that means I really know, because
I feel like I kind of know. I don't know
if I really know.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Well, if you really know what's going I appreciate that.
If you really know what's going on, I will tell you.
Because I'm fortunate to run in some pretty interesting tech circles.
They're all scared of how big it really is. It's
kind of a little Frankenstein. It's like this monster is
pretty and if you look, it's not hard to look
this up. A lot of the leaders of all these
companies do talk about like, hey, we're trying to figure
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it out, like this is big, big, and so look,
I'll be honest with you, I'm much more concerned about
governments than I am about entrepreneurs. Like everyone's like, oh,
Sam Altman, and then when we have like police dogs
with missiles on their backpack, AI dogs running around like
let there be no confusion. Everyone like Anthropic and Open
(18:53):
AI and all these companies. They're very powerful. You know
what's more powerful America and China and Russia. I think,
I think what we're fearing the governments. The thing I'm
most interested in is what does full scaled surveillance and
police state look like in society.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Like planners kind of what it sounds like to me now,
Like how the governments choose it. That's a I mean,
that's just in they're in.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
There, and it's just like I just think people forget
that government. For example, on the jobs thing, let me
bounce around a little bit less daunting. If we have
thirty percent unemployment, let me give you the news alert,
and what's going to happen. The government's gonna print cash
and people are gonna work three days a week. And
by the way, news alert, ninety percent of people are
gonna love it. Let me say it again. Remember how
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much everyone loved COVID. You sat at home playing video
games and drinking fucking champagne and the government's sending you
money in the mail. People loved it. I didn't love it.
I fucking hated it. But again, you and I are
sitting here for whatever reason, like I think, and by
the way, what if extreme capitalism led to a form
of socialism, like, let's call it space of speed. How
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many people on Earth? Let's just use America. How many
of the three hundred and thirty million people would love
to work three days a week and make the same
amount of money because the government's subsidizing it, because they're
taxing the ten companies that made all the money. I
have a funny feeling a lot, and I have no
judgment on that. I wouldn't like that. I want to create,
I want to build. It's in my blood. But I
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don't know. There's some really interesting, untold stories that are
going to play out here in the next twenty years,
and I'm curious, but honestly, real talk, I'm optimistic. I
know the last five minutes a lot of people got
spooked or worried. I just would not underestimate the human being.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
What you're saying now reminds me of the conversation that
Elon Musk was having, and I've seen him have it
in a couple different places, where he talks about how
in years there will be a living wage. It will
be just that AI will do the jobs. People will
be able to stay at home. There's no reason to say,
for retirement, and he's acting like this is happening in
ten or twenty years. But it is wild to think
(20:59):
that we'll call super capitalism because my brain will just
think could result you like that?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Right, I've been playing with that line of social it's
what if extreme capitalism?
Speaker 2 (21:09):
It literally that triggered.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
A form of socialism of like, that's a brain fuck up.
They're all one hundred years of debating this. That was
the outcome. Yeah, I mean I never saw that ten
years ago. It looks very definitely you know the plink
go board, Like what path are we going to take?
It's definitely one of the paths, especially if you understood
how money is made. You know, if you if you
really go very highbrow and very thoughtful. The world is
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predicated on weaponry, which then allows a country like us
to print money in perpetuity based on nothing.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Because we have more weapons, bigger weapons.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
You got it?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Right, Like it just goes back to third grade the
kid that grew Did you have a friend that like
was fully his full size by fifth grade? Yeah? Big
shout out to Garrett van Fleet. Garrett van Fleet, known
in our parts of Western Jersey as First Touch Net
Last to touch backboard. Was a monster in sixth grade?
Has not grown since? Were that monster in sixth grade? Like,
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and so is China right now? And you know that
kind of keeps the world at bay because everyone's scared.
And who would have ever thought that atomic bombs were
actually going to lead to peace? That's the most countertake
ever if we're sitting and doing this podcast in nineteen
forty nine. And that's why I actually think this whole
AI demonization reminds me a lot of the atomic bomb.
(22:29):
It is one of my hypothesis. I don't know if
I'm right or not, but I don't think a lot
of people in nineteen fifty thought the atomic bomb was
going to be the anchor to unprecedented peace.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
It's the ultimate checks and balances there you go, So.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
What if AI became the ultimate balance to work life balance?
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (22:49):
So would AI within countries? In your mind? Could that?
Is it a race within countries to have the ultimate
AI because then you have the biggest atomic bomb.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yeah, but I think they could come outized. You know,
you hit a certain level much like atomic bombs where
it's like maybe like I'm not educated enough, Maybe our
atomic bombs slightly better than China's or vice versa, but
the punchline is to both the fucking atomic bomb. I
think AI is gonna, you know, everyone's like which model.
I think it's like big data in my marketing world.
Eventually you realize that the IRS and Visa, MasterCard and Walmart,
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like everyone had enough data that it kind of got commoditized.
I have a funny and you see it now right.
It's not like I have to predict on this, Like
most of this shit is like, oh today, Nano did
this and tomorrow open Like it all feels like there's
thirteen that are all Higgs Field versus you know, Runway,
Like it feels like all of them are kind of
like one upping each other every fucking week and they're
all just like gonna be fucking epic and like what
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a brain fuck. Like, for example, I think I'm gonna
launch a music album because of AI. I have a
lot of things I want to say, and i'd be
a great rapper, big issue. I have no musical talent,
but the words I say are very much in that
vein which I think has led to my popularity. And
I love hip hop and I want to make it
for myself. And then I just might leak it and
(24:04):
sell forty million elbows?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Do you feel okay with the booing at the commencement speech?
That will happen to you if you make an AI
album of music.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yes, which is why I wouldn't do it until I
felt the world felt that that was okay. Like I
want to do it now, but I have a very
good feeling. Not only would I get booed, I might
even get stabbed, and I prefer not to get stabbed.
And very honestly, I'm too empathetic because I love the
music genre and I love all of those artists, so
many friends and so many people I admire. I know
(24:38):
it's not the right timing now, and I want to
understand what the culture, what humanity feels about it. But
the technology is there, and I know it's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
It's already happened if we go less existential.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
And I got a lot of people from the states
that I live in, Tennessee, Arkansas, Iowa, Alabama that are
watching this.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Well.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
AI doesn't really affect me, but I would love to
know how it could affect me positively. How can somebody
that has a normal joby going in grind in a way,
how could they use AI to benefit their lives?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
I mean a lot of ways. I mean I think,
you know, first of all, it's just opportunity. You know again,
it's Internet, it's social media, it's pure opportunity. So I
think first you just got to spend five hours using
AI to educate yourself about AI.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
It's very meta, so just getting on like yeah, just
a claude.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yeah. And by the way, like you know, listen, I
have offices in Chattanooga, Tennessee. I do a lot of
stuff in Minnesota. Like I've been very middle of America
out even though I'm a Jersey boy my whole life.
I don't think this is a Middle America versus coastal
versus first world country versus third world country. I think
this is just mindset. There's unlimited people in Middle America
that are ready deep into claude and open AI, and
(25:50):
there's unlimited people on the coasts that are demonizing it.
This is just a human binary thing of are you
an optimist or you a pessimist? Right, And I think
if you're an optimist or if you're in the middle,
if you're purple, not red or blue on this right now.
I hope this is the podcast that just gets you
to download it at least taste it. You know, I'm
not even going to get into harnesses and personal computers
(26:11):
and open claw and like all the shit I'm already
doing and others that are very off the charts doing.
I think, just using it for information. But like when
we get into agentic, agent's like eventually, just so everyone knows,
in fifteen years, your AI is going to be shopping
for you, reordering stuff for you. I think the biggest
pro for AI. Let me just curve all this because
(26:33):
I want everyone to hear this. This is often the
singular thing that gets people to look at this technology
slightly differently. The biggest pro is what it's doing in medicine.
Here's a trade. Let me ask you this very simple question.
If I told you that this is how life would
have worked out if AI was not invented like it
(26:54):
just seven years ago, you won't lose your job. You
won't I like it. But your daughter's going to be
diagnosed with a deadly disease that was unable to be
found without AI and will pass away at thirteen years old.
I don't like it, correct I just have a funny
feeling everyone's going to trade the job part for the
health and well being and the extra decade with their
(27:15):
mom and the extra sixty years with their daughter. And
I'm incredibly a static about AI medicine because people's lives
are about to be saved at an unprecedented level. So
I'm very bullish on that. And as far as the
job part, where does accountability come in? Right now, you're
listening to this podcast, you were being told information that
(27:36):
you should put in the work of fifty to one
hundred hours to know how to use AI and that
will help you either create a side hustle or get
another job. Now the question is are you going to
do it or are you tired, lazy, non motivated, indifferent
and you're not going to put in that hours? And
this is your strategy. And if you're listening at home,
I've just crossed my fingers and I'm about to do
(27:57):
the whole I just blew to air in my mouth,
big cheeks. Is this your strategy? Because that is not
a strategy when there's a big technology, and people should
know that. If you're grown, if you're over forty, you
watch what the internet did you watch what social media did?
You watch what the iPhone did? You should not be
delusional to how big of an opportunity and how much
of a risk is in play with this new technology.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
The Bobby cast will be right back. This is the
Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
It scares a lot of people because I think that's
what gets the most. It's going to strain the most.
I'm those videos are being fed the most because most
more people are commenting on them. The videos of AI
doing good do not hit as hard because again, they're
not getting the same amount.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
As someone who's been putting out content that is good
for the last twenty years. I'm very aware that people
peddling negativity and hate do better than me that are
pedaling love and optimism. I just don't care.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I guess my point is a lot of people are
just seeing all the negatives with AI because those videos
do better and they're served more.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
And I'm asking people to be fucking adults, yes, and
do three sixty work and be accountable. They're listening to
us right now. I'm telling all of you right now, verbinum,
that ais likely the best thing that's ever happened to you.
Now what now you get to decide if you believe
me or if you believe someone else. I would just
tell you that. Let me tell you my twenty years
(29:29):
of receipts. I've made content for twenty years, giving you
all the angles of opportunity for yourself. And I've told
you the whole time that I cannot help you. You
can help yourself. Now, let me tell you who's peddling
all this stuff that's scaring you. You're not capable. I'm
gonna scare you and vote for me or give me
your money, and I'll help you. You decide who you
want to listen to. That's some real fucking talk.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, I agree with you because I've been able to
see the advantages of it. I also understand the fears
of it because that's what people are being fed the most,
because that's what's getting the most reacts.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yes, but at one point is there accountability?
Speaker 2 (30:06):
There's not.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Well, listen, I understand we're in the greatest era of
pointing fingers and we don't like to point thumbs. I
have a problem. You're grown, and you will pay the
consequences of your actions if you literally are not willing
to be accountable, if you do not want to put
in the work to take advantage of these opportunities. Maybe
there's an argument that you should.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Lose, so survival of the fittest a bit.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Listen, I'm a big fan of balance. I am as
purple as it back to like middle versus coast, Like,
you will not find a more purple fucker than me.
I am Grimace, like.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
In my head, I had really, Yeah, in my head.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
I know that some youngsters might think Barney were a
little how old are you forty six? Man? You look
he looks you guys are pissed, right, he looks too good? No, really,
you look alone. I didn't realize. So we are Grimace
under thirty five year olds, probably not Barney. Yeah, but
I'm very purple, So I'm not one of these like
fuck it, Like I believe in you know, some levels
(31:05):
of you know, government and some levels of but I
think we I think both sides are so off the
reservation right now, everyone's furlescent, blue, radical red for.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
The same reason.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Right, That's that's what I get shown to us. The
things bad news. Everyone, I'm about to say something that's
gonna hurt your feelings. You're all the same, you know that, right, Yeah,
you're literally actually the same person. You're just on the
other side of the coin. But you are on full
tilt that you believe someone's gonna save you. How about
that shit, you believe someone's gonna save you. They've both
(31:38):
tricked you. That these this is what's bad and I
can help you, and let me break that down to
what that makes you a los her. Sorry, if you
think fucking a president or a governor or a mayor
is gonna save your life, you're in big trouble. And
I feel bad. I'm sad. That's what I put out
(32:00):
so much content. I'm desperate for you to understand you're
in control and you're capable.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
I found that sensibility is not the most shared, like
it's the enemy of being entertaining. Therefore, it is not
the most shared because it doesn't keep people on social media.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yeah, I mean again, I think that's accountability time. Like
this whole idea that what you're saying right now, I
so understand. But just to remind you, pre Internet, pre
social media, people chose to turn on CNN or Fox.
People chose to read the New York Times or the
New York Post. People have made these choices for a
long time.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
They weren't as polar than well.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
By the way, again, I got f's in school, but
I got a's and b's in history. Like the nineteen
sixties were super.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Polariz I wasn't. I don't know about the sixties.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
No, No, you didn't live the sixties. But you're a
smart dude. Why, like, what do you like confused right now?
Speaker 2 (32:46):
You known't know. I'm not help me here.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
You're confused about the sixties. You don't know anything. I
do know about the sixties.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
And I have talked to people that are older than
me and said, hey, what's more divisive Vietnam the sixties
or today?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Do you know how humans work? When you're older, you
think it's more extreme. It's also recency bias, bro. Everyone
was getting shot in the sixties.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Yeah, I mean, we haven't had a can't state for sure.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Not only that, it's all of them, it's MLK RFK JFK.
People forget that Gerald Ford had multiple assassination attempts on him.
Reagan bleeding into the early eighties, like Lenin, like you know,
like it was, I mean, you can't even comprehend the
racial tenison, like we still feel it, like think about
(33:34):
where we're now with racism and racial tensions today, you
understand the insanity that was the sixties. I think, and
here's what happened the seventies and eighties is called fatigue.
I'm actually really pumped. I'm gonna put it on wax
right now because I'm gonna clip this shit in fifteen years.
We're starting the earliest process of fatigue right now.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
But fatigue to be seen as a positive.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
I see it as a positive. Okay, it's a reset.
I don't think it's like putting our issues under the rug.
I think we've battled it out, you know, fighting. I
don't know, like you know where you grew up, But
like me and my in the eighties and Jersey at
Martin Luther King Elementary School, I learned it early, which
is like you hate someone, you fight, and then weirdly
(34:23):
you're like boys like boys. Yeah, and I feel like
in the Macro we've been fighting here for a minute now,
and like I'm actually again, I'm an optimist on this.
I believe in human beings. I think we will have
a seventies and eighties to this sixties. I think people
will be fascinated by the twenty thirties and twenty forties,
and I'm looking forward to seeing it.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Yeah. My question has always been is this super cyclical?
Like are we just doing exactly again? And which is
why I would ask about the late sixties, early seventies
in that time period and compare it to now, because
it just seems like it's then now, except with better technology.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Yeah, listen, it'd be nice of me to just say
it's exactly same. There'll be different nuances. Anything can happen.
One person can change the course of history, right, one president,
one dictator, one you know, kud Ata. Like, I'm not
gonna sit here and say it's exactly the same, but
humans do repeat the same things over and over if
you go deep enough in history, and like, yeah, I'm optimistic, man,
(35:21):
I don't know. I'll ask you a direct question, and
then I'm just looking for the body language of the
four behind the camera. I've noticed people that were red
hot on politics completely calm down in the last two
three years. Just people get tired of yelling into the wind.
You can only tweet so much anger, Like eventually you're
just gonna be lonely. And so I don't know, I'm
(35:43):
really hopeful, and I think I think there's a lot more.
I think there's a lot more understanding. For example, when
I opened my Chattanooga, Tennessee office for my agency in
two thousand and fourteen and was looking at Des Moines,
Iowa Louisville, a lot of my employees and my clients
were like, why are you doing that. I'm like, well,
(36:04):
because you know, I want to be in the trenches,
because you know, America's pretty different in the middle than
the coast. And they were like, it is. I was
so stunned by the naivete that there was like some
real cultural divides between like just genuinely literally clients, like
executives are big companies being like, it's not that different.
I'm like, it's a little more different than you think.
(36:26):
I like that we kind of know that it's a
little bit different, and I like that I can see
people starting to blend. I just see it. Listen. What
I do for a living is watch people at scale
on the internet, look at data, look at behaviors, read
qualitative data, read the four chance and the reddits and
the Twitter. I just watch. This is what I like
to do. It's how I think about business and how
I think about life. I'm telling all of you there's
(36:48):
a crack in the anger. And I think it's beautiful
and I'm excited and I hope it gets super momentum.
Anything can change it. But there is a crack in
the anger people are of you know, here you are
six years later and you're like, man, I had a
best friend for twenty two years. We haven't talked in
six years. For what? Because we saw the world differently?
(37:11):
As if you know what blows me away? Having the
audacity to think every human on earth should see life
exactly the way you see it, As if when I
first came out on the scene public speaking, I cursed
a lot. I've already been cursing here a little bit
when I went to the South. I went to Burningham, Alabama,
(37:32):
and I started doing my Gary Vee thing, and boy
oh boy, and I remember like the host was a
little bit like was trying to be mean to the crowd,
and I stopped him. I said, no, No, this is
a crowd that if you got raised by your grandma,
and we're told like cursing is the devil? Who am
I just because I grew up in the streets of
Jersey where cursing was every Third world word. I didn't
(37:55):
have the audacity, especially to go into someone else's home.
I was in Birmingham, they weren't in new And I
think that we've forgotten how to respect the home you
walk into. We've forgotten. And so if I have to
take my shoes off because that's your house rules, I
will take my damn shoes off, even if those aren't
my house rules. And so courtesy civility lost art that
(38:17):
I have a funny feeling is in the early stages
of bubbling up in a good way, and I'm seeing
that trend.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
This has been a very positive last half hour. So
I like to say thank you for that, because you
have a positive feeling about AI. You have a positive
feeling about where society is going. And I don't feel
like you're just saying it for the effect. I feel
like you believe it.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
Well.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
I have the luxury with you of you knowing my
content enough that this is not what I've been saying
about society for twelve years. You know, yeah, I do
see it. I'm incredibly hopeful that it's true. I'm incredibly
I'm a streat kid. I'm not naive that it can
turn in a dime. We saw the horrific assassination attempt
of Trump. Could you imagine if that bullet lands that
(39:00):
changes the power to anything can happen, that's life. But
I would say that I am optimistic and I will
say this to everyone. Here's a good one. I really hope.
By the way, if what I'm about to say changes
one person, then this is like the best use of
my time. And thank you for the opportunity. If you're
just listening for the last twenty minutes and you can
feel like you're tired of fighting, stop fighting. I just
(39:26):
think a lot. I think people are tired. Bro, Like,
how much hate can you deploy in one lifetime? Why
you got to ask yourself why I hate no one?
I mean, I'm not pumped about a murderer, like, but
my brain goes into like, damn, whatever happened to that childhood?
Really fucking sucks for that poor kid. Obviously, you can't
(39:47):
condemn taking another person's life, but I don't default, like
and then people are like wanting to like cancel and
fight because you see some policy issued there. And by
the way, we live in the United States. Move. Do
you know what epic the United States. Is this whole
Forefathers thing. They wrote it perfectly. Don't like Texas, go
to California, don't like New York, go to Florida, don't
(40:11):
like you know, don't like you know, Connecticut. Go to
New Hampshire. Don't like New Hampshire. Go to Tennis. And
the fact that we have options and don't need it's
not like Europe or like fuck you got it, you know,
like it's pretty cool, right, but stop hating people. What
the fuck.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
End on, dad gang? We're talking about a freaking yeah, yeah,
tell me more about that.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
This is a great American story, Like just three buddies
entrepreneurs built it. You know. I've had some success with
fashion brands Segum and Stables and other hat forward brand
is Max I just got involved with early on in
his career several years ago. And first of all, I
just think like fatherhood is the coolest. I think a
(40:55):
lot of people take a lot of pride in trying
to be a good dad. I think we have an
incredible rise of good fathering. In fact, I actually think
fathering is finding a purple. I don't know if all
of you were paying attention to this, but I love
that like, you could be nice, but you could also
be like cry when you lose and fuck eighth place
trophies and be a man and like, you know, I
(41:17):
talked to my son the other day. He's thirteen, and
I finished the sentence with like, I'm not your mom,
I'm here to be your dad, bro, and manned him up.
I bodied him a little bit and it was awesome.
And I just think fatherhood and being a dad is
in a nice era right now. I really actually think
it's one of the things that are getting to purple
the quickest. I think that's gonna beautiful for a generation
(41:38):
of children. So this brand and this entrepreneurial venture of
me getting involved in has been really fruitful because I
love anything that is selfish and selfless. I love like, oh,
this could be a good investment. I could make some
paper for me and my family while also supporting something
that if we make being a dad cool and being
a good dad cool, well that's just good for Society's
(41:59):
similar to friends. I don't know if you know what
I'm doing with that. That's my Pokemon Marble. Those are
two hundred and sixty characters, you know, you know, Fearless Fairy, ambitious, angel, empathy, elephant,
patient Panda where I get to like be a ninety
back to you being forty six. Do you remember our
cartoons where like he Man would be he Man and
at the end he'd be like and remember kids, you know,
(42:20):
remember boys, be nice to your sister. I go like,
rug and hug my sister because a man told me.
You know, our cartoons had a message. And that's what
I'm trying to do with v friends, And that's where
I am a little bit in my life. Now. I
get a lot of opportunities. But with this, I was
like seeing the pride. I've watched a lot of people
wear this hat. I've talked to some people long before
I even knew who was behind him, like hey, why
(42:41):
do you rock that hat? Literally? And because I'm Gary
Vee and I talk about this shit, people like crying
me like my dad was terrible. I want to be
a good dad to my one year old, Like really cool,
gnarly shit. So I'm really proud of those guys. I'm
excited to be involved rep up the marketing, build a business. Look,
I believe in the American dream more than anybody. I'm
a byproduct of it. It is still uncomfortably real, even
(43:03):
though people try to tell you it's not and they're
living it. Well.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
I appreciate the time. I'm also a Kaboom guy because
of you.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Really, yeah, dude, Can you guys have me back so
we could just talk an hour on collectibles. I believe
collectibles is on the pre dawn of joining music, sports
and fashion as a lifestyle genre. Everyone's collecting something handbags,
you know, lea boo boo's, like vintage clothes for the ladies, watches, sneakers.
(43:33):
I mean, but it's insane how big kaboom has gotten
if everybody doesn't know what the hell we' talking about.
We're talking about a insert in Panini sports cards called
Kaboom that have just gone completely ballistic. If you go
to eBay right now and type in Kaboom card, you'll
be blown away. I lost out on a Bruns and
Gold Kaboom last week, and I'm so angry at myself
(43:54):
because I have deep pockets and I shouldn't been a
puss and I should have been one more time. And
now I don't know if I'll forget one, and if
he wins a title here, which, please God, please, could
we end with back to Middle America. Middle of America.
I'm coming. The Knicks are playing the Spurs in San
Antonio or the Thunder in Oklahoma City. So I'm excited
to see all of you. If you listen to the pod,
when do you guys put this out soon? Good? If
(44:16):
you listen to this pod and you see me in
the arena, come and say hi, let's stap it up
because we're like minded people and got a lot of
love for you, and so thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
Yeah, I really appreciate a big fan.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
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Speaker 1 (45:23):
She's getting really not afraid to feel the tens and so.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
Just let it flow.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
No one can do WEEKD cary Line is sounding Caroline.
Speaker 5 (45:35):
I'm so excited to be hearing Raylyn.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
We're back. We're new studio, new vibes, new studio news,
same us. What are the same? I think we have
the same energy.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
What has changed since I talked to you last?
Speaker 3 (45:50):
It's been like what two years? Maybe?
Speaker 5 (45:52):
Oh my gosh, I mean year and a half at least,
because it's a winter time, so.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
My team has changed. My I put out some new
music since I've seen you. I went on I was
what tour did I do last time?
Speaker 5 (46:05):
Right?
Speaker 3 (46:05):
Did the Jason Eldane tour, which was so fun. He's
the best. I'm trying to think. Daisy's gotten older. My daughter,
Daisy's four, she'll be five end of end of this summer,
in September. It is crazy watching her, like literally you
blink and they're it's just like so it just makes
(46:29):
me very emotional. Mother's Day was yesterday. Mother's Day was yesterday.
I had a great Mother's Day. I just I mean,
we just kind of hung out, but stay by the pool,
went I had lunch. We went and got Lady Bird
Taco Daisy loves Keso, I love Keeso. And then we
got that for lunch and then uh, we just hung
out and then what was after that? And then we
(46:51):
ordered we have chanks for dinner, and then we the
spicy chicken with white rice. Definitely that was crazy. I'm
not a vegetarian, It's actually funny. I'm more like I'm
a low meditarian. I'm pretty low car because of my diabetes,
so like I am health conscious because I have to be.
(47:16):
And then and then we went to Dairy Queen and
got some ice cream.
Speaker 5 (47:18):
So it was a very like such a text you're
such are your texts?
Speaker 3 (47:23):
I like yes and no, I get the eminem blizzard.
They like know me there?
Speaker 2 (47:31):
Now you that often?
Speaker 3 (47:32):
Oh yeah, I at least go twice a week. We're even.
But I get like, there's a day queen by our house,
and what I know, I we go to this playground
right by. So we go to the playground, I mean
days ago getting ice cream, Like I just get like
a mini and because I know how to bullis for
it with my diabetes, Like I know exactly how much
(47:53):
insulin to take, and you know it's just our thing.
Speaker 5 (47:57):
So that's really good to get. Like you are you
kind of a creature of habit with food.
Speaker 3 (48:01):
Yes, I'm a creature with food, and especially like the
thing is what I figured out with with type one diabetes. Yes,
it is like I know the things that I can
eat that are good for my blood sugar, and I
know exactly how much to take insulin for and so
and then I have like a few indulges that I'm like, Okay,
I can have an eminem mini blizzard and I can
take two point sixty units for it and it's not
(48:23):
gonna hit me as much as like you know, but
I don't do it all the time. So it's like,
but I've gotten to the point where, like I now
am so stabilized in my blood sugar that I can
have those treats. Is that because you've regulated your feet?
Speaker 5 (48:35):
Yes? Did you have a moment where You're like, I
need change my life because oh yeah, I'm feeling awful
and not having control.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
Oh yeah, I mean especially being on tour you started
six Yeah, I mean I remember when I was out
on tour with like even Blake, like back in the
early days going out with like Marin, like that was
like those tours, like we're we're just I was always
trying to figure out the right pattern and the right
amount of insulind to take.
Speaker 5 (49:00):
But so you're starting touring and at the same time
you're having to navigate like a huge.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
Health I'm always navigating. But that's like people don't even
realize they see invisible disease. You know. It's like people
don't see it, but it's something that we we well
and was thinking of about it.
Speaker 5 (49:14):
You talk about it openly, but like we don't. You
talk about it and you're so bubbling ute and handling
it all, but like we don't think about like what
a day in and day out goes on to have
to like manage that.
Speaker 3 (49:23):
Well, you just always have. Like I now have my
new pump. It's like connected to my phone, so I
can see what my blood sugar is. Let's see what
it is right now, that's probably my blood sugar is.
I hope it's a good number because I'm really embarrassed.
One ninety it's not great, not one okay Oha. The
traffic has stressed me out, so it's having stress stop it.
(49:45):
Stress will spike your blood sugar, so.
Speaker 5 (49:47):
You just have to stay like eating well, perfectly pretty
centered in nervous system.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
How do you keep your nervous system called prayer and
Jesus and writing songs. It's so funny because I was
having a really stressful day and this just goes to
show the power of songwriting and being around really great people.
But my sugar was like two fifty when I got
to So, what's really high? I mean two fifties high?
I mean it's granted what you what you think is high?
(50:16):
I mean for me, like I would say that's high
because I don't sit in that spot. But right when
I got to the writing room and I started writing,
my my sugar like went down to a normal level
within an hour, and I was just like, this is
my happy place.
Speaker 5 (50:32):
You love writing songs.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
I love writing songs, and I love I love touring.
I love I love my life. God is good.
Speaker 5 (50:38):
Tell me what take Tell me what you love about
your life, breaking down what I rank it for me,
how it all fits in.
Speaker 3 (50:43):
You know, I always I always think about this, and
I think it's easy as an artist to you know
kind of I mean, I always want to I have
goals that I want to hit exactly, Like I like,
I want a number one song on country radio and
I want, but you've had a single, I've had number
one record, but never like God Made Girls didn't go
number one, No, it was top it was top fifteen.
(51:05):
But you had one else that got RNG but it
was but it was it went platinum because you know
songs or song. Yeah, it was huge and then re
Triangle did really well, but it didn't go number one.
But it's like, do you know the Black CROs have
never had a number one song. I'm pretty sure that's awesome.
Speaker 5 (51:19):
Those are Michael's cousins, mean if he pats really but yes,
but I think about that because he's grown up like
I idolizing them and loving music, and it's like, you
can be number one songs are great. Yes, that does
not determine the success of a song.
Speaker 3 (51:31):
But you know, I think it's still good to have
those goals and pray for those things. You just want
it to have it well and to like, I mean,
I'm just I would love to see if it happen.
But I always like think about the fact and I
tell this to my team all the time, the fact
that I've gotten to pursue country music since I was
(51:54):
eighteen years old and do it for a living and
make money to support my family. Until I to make
money doing what you love and to actually make money
doing it, we should never take that for granted. And
I think that's one thing anytime I'm feeling like a
little down or like a little what the hell's going on?
And I always remember, like we are. So I'm so
(52:14):
blessed the fact that I get to be a mom,
I get to do what I love, I get to
write songs, and people still care, you know, because it's
a very We all know this is a hard business,
but I know this is what God's created me to do.
And like the fans are amazing, and country music fans
are truly the best fans and they're always there and
they've grown with me since the voice and since I
(52:36):
had a big old flower on the side of my
head and more poofy dresses with cowgirl boots. I ever
decided to retire that I know, maybe I should bring
it back this summer.
Speaker 5 (52:43):
I was thinking to do it seriously and then gosh,
Daisy like it too.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
You know.
Speaker 3 (52:48):
I have a few of my old like Betsy Johnson dresses,
and I was like, how funny would that be if
I pulled one of those out for Luke Bryan to
her you should, Yeah, I'd have to get him probably
tailored and stuff.
Speaker 5 (52:58):
Which is kind of you do it like two puntovers
two point over, you know, because I love your style
right now and I'm like, what your what is it?
Speaker 3 (53:05):
What is your style?
Speaker 5 (53:05):
Because it's like those cute little minis and tops, but
it's like totally tailored and like created. It's like my creation.
So this girl boots and like, I just love her style.
It's so perfect silver lining apparel.
Speaker 3 (53:16):
She is amazing. She she reached out to me. She
she creates looks for Rodeo girls and so her she
like with the whole Beyonce trend. When Beyonce was getting
all these different girls to make, you know, her wardrobe
for Cowboy Carter Tour. She was like, wouldn't it be
so cool if I could dress an artists, And so
(53:36):
she reached out. I put her in contact out yes,
which is so so and I love how organic it
was because she's like, I'm just a fan, Like I
love to you know, chat, and I mean like I
could help create looks, but I was like, I would
rather her work with my stylist and like it'd be
tailored to me. And then you know, my stylists can
like find like boots and like jewelry and all things
(53:56):
to go with it, so wee that's amazing. So they
start working together and it's great because it's like I
had all these cute sets from last year and so
for this summer we're just revamping those sets and adding
more stones and more friend and like little things to
put over it. And it's just been really fun. But
she's great.
Speaker 5 (54:13):
Has it been a relief or like, has it taken
some pressure off to have this iconic look that you
have now and like to have sets since to not
have to like think about it?
Speaker 3 (54:24):
It really is And that's why I love Krista. Like
the way we do it for tour is we have like,
let's say, like last year we did ten looks and
now we added four new looks and then we're revamping
the other ten. It's great because I have all my
looks in my closet and she tells me what boots like.
We I have pictures of all my boots and she's like,
I think you should wear this with this, and then
(54:44):
it's great because all I have to do is grab
the boots, this and then the jewelry, and it just
makes it very and everything's tailored to me, and I
don't everything, yes, And it's like the only thing that
sucks about being an artist is like there's like my
everyday clothes. Then there's like my sweats because you know,
as girls, we have all of our lounge clothes, and
then I have my railing closet. So it's like my
(55:06):
closet looks insane, and it's like you can't wear a
freaking booty shorts to dinner, you know what I mean?
Like I mean, maybe I could.
Speaker 6 (55:14):
Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.
Had it not been a vehicle for my business hopes
and dreams, I don't even know if I would be
a person that had social media. I'm one of the
most prolific content creators of the last twenty years. I
share nothing personal. I'm actually wildly inherently private.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hey, everybody, Bobby here. On this episode, we have Gary
Vaynerchuk or Gary Vee, and I consume a lot of
this guy's content. It just pops up in my feed
as somebody who enjoys sports cards. He's there. He's an entrepreneur,
he's an investor. I mean, he's a content machine. And
sometimes he just gets up on like curses in front
of people and they're like, yeah, we support you. I
(00:45):
don't even know, but like I'm a fan. And so
I was in New York and I was like, Hey,
do you want to come on the podcast? And he
says yeah, And so we talk about all kinds of stuff,
first how someone could be an influencer. Then it turned
into a whole talk on AI and they're really for me.
Was no agenda going into this other than to see
what Gary Vee had to say about stuff. He's built, businesses,
(01:06):
he's invested in companies like Uber and Twitter before most
people knew what they were. He's launched one of the
biggest marketing agencies in the world. Massive New York Jets
fan and a Knicks fan, and whenever we were doing this,
I think he's were on a Knick shirt. Because we
did this couple a few weeks ago. It was before
the Knicks had won it all. So I bet you
he's been very happy since this. So here he is
(01:27):
a guy that I've consumed a lot of his content
for many reasons. They're great, Gary Vee, Gary, good to
see you, Great to see you. I have a lot
of people that like follow on social media and I
don't have the answers, but they're like, how do I
become an influencer? And mostly what I've been able to
say is I'm gonna talk to Gary v real soon
because you don't want you don't want my advice, but
I consume so much of what you put out that's
(01:49):
very kind. So if someone had that basic question of
how do I start and be an influencer, what would
you tell them?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
The two things that always stand out for me are
passion and knowledge. So let's name it the PK framework,
right like, I think there's only two ways to become
someone that people follow. You're so passionate or talented, I
think we can add a tea in there, like you're
just so inherently funny and so talented. I think the
(02:20):
reason I always go to passion is there's a lot
of people that are talented. But if you don't have
the passion to get there, the drive, the energy, it's
too hard. It's actually too hard. You know. Right now, currently,
as you probably know, four billion people are trying to
become famous. I think we can both agree that four
billion people have not achieved it. It's actually shockingly easy
(02:42):
and shockingly hard to make it. Right now, what's the
easy part? The easy part is distribution has been commoditized.
There's no gatekeeper. You know, when our grandpapies were growing up,
if they wanted to be known, they had to go
to Hollywood or New York and someone had to discover them.
Say yes, so many people gate kept distribution. The Internet
(03:04):
is now distribution. And if you're Sally Pants McGee in
Peru right now and you have a smartphone an Internet connection,
you have the ability to start making content that for
some whatever reason, people give a crap about, and that
is a level of meritocracy that I think is intoxicating.
So that's changed dramatically.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I feel the same thing with the music because I
live in Nashville, and so a lot of new artists
or artists that maybe aren't new but haven't hit yet,
they're talking about, Hey, how do I make it? And
it's like, you have every opportunity because even ten years ago, correct,
it was you had to be signed to a record
label because you had to have distribution. But now it's
(03:45):
universal distribution.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yes, and the previews were there a long time ago.
I don't know what just happened, but it triggered me
to a story. Mike Boyd, who is a very senior
executive in my marketing company in the music division, met
my brother the first day of college back in ninety
two thousand and you know, nine or two excuse me,
two thousand and five, and my brother calls me and says,
(04:09):
this kid knows everything about music. I said, challenge him,
tell him to tell you a musician right now that
eventually will get famous. He told him. Three years later,
we're driving to a Jets preseason game listening to Hot
ninety seven and my brother freaks out and I don't
know why, and he's like, oh my god, Gary, do
you remember my freshman year when you said thank you
so much to ask Mike Boyd, who's gonna pop? It's
(04:34):
this person. That person was Soldier Boy and Mike boy
found him on MySpace. Really really, so even back in
five six, you know, I think back to young Jock
Rick Ross all gold everything, how that song for Trinidad
James blew up. You started to see some cracks. But
now to your point, like TikTok is real discovery. Every
(04:56):
A and R is living on there. They want to
see it work before they take the risk. It's not
going to a bar at two in the morning and
being like Moley Cruz gonna make it. And so yeah,
I mean I tell artists all the time, and I
have a lot of fun receipts on the internet gonna
dough chy sweetie, people that were so early in their
careers where I'm like, you have a shot, But this
is what you need to do. And it's the answer
(05:17):
to your opening question, which is and this is going
to hurt a lot of people's feelings. Quantity is a
secret part of the equation that everybody who has pride
does not want to admit is true. There's this inherent
conflict between quality and quantity that so many artists and
(05:37):
ideological individuals want to uphold. But the truth is, quantity
is an incredible ingredient in breaking through. It is really
at bats at making the piece of content that changes
your life. And I'm a very big believer in it.
(05:58):
Now people will make ten thousand pieces of shit and
never make it. Quality has to be a part of
the equation. But you'll appreciate this quality is subjective, what
is handsome, what is attractive, what is front right. Quantity
is not. And while we have this era of social
media where you can post something with nine followers and
(06:20):
get four million views, I hope everyone understands that is
out of control. That is a mitzvah. That is a
wild phenomenon. And I think many will regret when they
look back at their lives realize they were born during
a time of opportunity and merit that was never pre available.
And I actually predict there'll be an era where the
(06:41):
glasses or some other medium will come along and change
our world, and that the cell phone with the internet,
with social media was an incredible gold rush of opportunity
for people that had passion, knowledge or talent, hopefully the
mix of the three, and that's how you become the
Lebrons and the Beyonces. And I think that's where we're
(07:01):
at right now.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Brother.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I think when you say quality, some people will be
intimidated by the word going I don't know if I
have quality or if it's good enough to me. What
I would often say is change the word quality for compelling.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah, right, it's fair.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
It doesn't have to be that you're the greatest guitar
player or you're the greatest speaker. I don't feel like
I am a technically a wonderful speaker. But I can
sell out theaters. I can do a national I do
a national radio show, I do the show on Netflix. Netflix.
I'm not a great speaker, but I can say things
that people find compelling, or I can tell my story
that I find compelling. I think that's what quality is.
(07:36):
Two folks, how are you compe How does it resonate
whether you use.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
The semantics of changing the word quality to compelling. It
comes down to self esteem versus insecurity.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
What do you mean I'm wildly insecure?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Which is often one of the ways to get to
the top. I think about this all the time. It's
wild to see extreme and then even high levels of
insecurity or confidence get you to a place. I would
say that if you tell someone who's like scared when
Gary said quality, that if they're insecure and you're telling
(08:12):
them compelling, they're still like, well, I'm not compelling and
they just changed the word. You know. My question, very
simply to start off this podcast immediately, is when are
you all willing to get the fuck out of high school?
When are you ready to not live your life based
on some random person's comment or your neighbor thinking it's
silly that you're talking about skateboarding even though you're a
(08:33):
forty eight year old dude, Like, when are you ready
to just jump into the pool, kiss the girl, ride
the bike without training wheels? Like when are you ready
to be grown and see through something that's in your belly?
You feel like you want to be out there? By
the way, on the record, I don't think everyone should
be out there. I'll tell you something interesting about me.
(08:56):
Had it not been a vehicle for my business hopes
and dreams, I don't even know if I would be
a person that had social media. I don't know if
you know this. I'm one of the most prolific content
creators in the last twenty years. I share nothing personal.
I'm actually wildly inherently private. You know. I was born
in the Soviet Union. I grew up in a household
that privacy was high valued. Had this not been about
(09:18):
using notoriety and awareness to create opportunity for me professionally
and for business purposes, I actually understand why so many
people would never attempt to be known. I would have
been one of those people. In fact, I never thought
I would ever be known. I thought I'd be a
business person. The calculus of the world changed. The Internet, YouTube,
(09:39):
Twitter kind of really allowed me to see it. I
was in the right place mentally and strategically at the
right time. But yeah, I mean, I think this is
a self esteem insecurity game. To your point, if you
have enough insecurity, you use it.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
It's a weapon.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
It's a weapon you want to prove everyone wrong if
you have enough, if you got lucky like me, your
circumstances of dnaight where you grew up, and ultimately the
parents you had, and specifically for me my mom, Mine's
like the other side of that pillow, there's like a cell.
There's such an extreme level of contentness and curiosity, and
I just feel good and at some level I feel guilty.
(10:17):
I feel like my mom did so right by me
that I kind of use Gary Ve to do right
by the world. It's almost my homage to my mom.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Now, you talked about what was easy, no gatekeepers, But
what's the hard because you said it can be easy
and hard at the same time.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Oh, it's hard because you're competing with the entire fucking world.
There's someone prettier posting right now. There's someone smarter, There's
someone more compelling with their words. There's someone with more tenacity,
there's some more grit, there's someone with more opportunity, circumstance, serendipity.
This is pure merit.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
What do you find about people that succeed in art
and that can be music, It could be any kind
of influencer. What do you think the through line? Is there.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Something out of whack?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, that's what I say.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
It's that's right. Now, here's where it gets. I think,
you know, I feel like revibing. I think you're gonna
really resonate what I'm about to say, if those screws
are loose in the right way, then you have sustained success.
If the screws are too extremely insecure, like they're just levels,
(11:25):
if you're like blisteringly insecure. Oftentimes, when you get that
validation financially, you get the guy, you get the girl,
you get the house, you get the fame, it all
fucking That's why we've seen so many people burn there.
They had the wrong screw loose and so but yeah,
I think something enigma, something out of you know. I
(11:45):
know I can speak for myself. I got fortunate that
I was going through the school system in the eighties
where they couldn't have diagnosed all the things they feed
pills to kids. For now, I was completely out of control.
I didn't pay attention for shit. I was too passionate
about my sports cards and my lemonade stand and being
social and being friends, and I didn't give a fuck
(12:06):
about Saturn or the periodic table.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
But that worked out for you and for me. It's
in a bit of an outlier type way. Like I
was that kid who got to have napster and having
and I grew up in the South where until Napster
you got what was at the stores correct, and what
was at the stores was mostly a little bit of
(12:29):
hip hop, a little bit of rock, but mostly country.
And I grew up on country music, but I had
Napster now and so now now I got everything. And
then even with podcasting, I was twenty one or twenty two,
and I was one of the youngest to do like
a morning show on a major market, and people were like,
this kid's so ahead of his time because he's podcasting
in two thousand and eight. But it was no. I
was just my twenties.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
You just knew it.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
I was just doing it naturally because I'm my age,
by the way, same way.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
You know what's funny, I am one of those weird
ones where I act down like just because I'm a consumerist,
meaning I also was podcasting. Back then, I didn't have
the serendipity of age. I had the obsession of being
consumer centric. I demonized nothing. Do you know many people
have become their grandma. You made fun of your grandma
(13:17):
back in the day for not having a cell phone
or using Aol instant messenger, and now you're doing the
same thing with AI because you're grown. You're demonizing the
new shit motherfuckers. You became your grandma like you literally
made fun of her twenty years ago for not knowing
how to use the new shit, and now you're like,
fuck AI. It's like it's it's it's not right.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
And I've made the comparison to when streaming was happening
people were screaming at it because no, this is where discworld,
when downloading was happening. AI is now that And now.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
To be fair to everyone who's demonizing AI, this one's big.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Didn't they say that about when Napster or LimeWire or
we can Go.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
That was a small that was an industry that was
upset about losing its money. This is more like electricity
and the internet itself. This is a This is a
technology that's going to affect literally every single person, Like
right now is we're filming this, there's six of us
in the room. Every one of us, what we do
for a living is going to be affected by AI
(14:23):
over the next decade. Now I'm the person that believes
if the six of us are good enough, we adjust,
We adjust. You know, where was everybody when the search
engine was invented? In one hundred thousand yellow pages, salesman
got blown out. Where was everybody when Amazon was ravaging
through local bookstores? The reason everyone's on tilt right now.
(14:47):
I don't know if you saw all the commencement speeches
right they booed, they boot every every I was so
glad I had one two years ago. I would have
been dead. Now I'm good because I'm improv I would
adjusted to be like, yeah, you're right, fuck AI. But
these people still to their script and we're getting murdered.
People are scared, and I'm empathetic to that. It is
never exciting to be like, can I lose my job?
(15:07):
How do I pay for my kids, my rent, my debt?
I just ask everyone, if you've stumbled on this podcast
and you just have, you know, you could have been anywhere.
You're with us right now, walking the dog in the gym,
in the car. Use AI. Don't fear it because if
you put your head in the ground, somebody using it
is going to take your job, not it, And so
(15:28):
I just implore everyone to play with it because it's
an inevitable like technology laughs at human opinion.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
It always has.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
It, always has it laughs like do you know stupid
Metallica looks historically like do you know bad that receipt
for Bill Gates has got his own headaches, but like
the receipt on him on Letterman, like everybody who tries
to fight technologies and advancements because they're worried about their
money always looks silly. So for me, it's kind of like,
(15:59):
if you love the game, you gotta love the game,
not what it does for you. I like feel like
I bring this up a lot of trains of Big
Star Wars nerds, so I think he knows where I'm
going because I use this analogy a lot. When Obi
Wan's like willing to die to Darth Vader for the
better cause of the Jedi game. That's how I feel
as an entrepreneur. If AI was the technology that was
going to come along and fuck me up right now
(16:22):
and destroy all my businesses, I'm ready. I'm ready to
go back to a studio apartment in Queens and rebuild
because I can't love the game. I can't love capitalism
and entrepreneurship and merit and truth and the game only
when it benefits me. I have to love it purely,
and so I've been really enjoying all these entrepreneurs and
(16:43):
capitalists and free market people be exposed for bitches. I
love it. I love all these people like it should
be merit, it should be merit. But now that AI
might come and get them, they're like, wait a minute,
where's Yeah, when you're getting fucked, you're like, where's the regulation? Well,
it's like the whole the thing. It's why I put
the fuck the police thing was never gonna work. It's like, oh,
(17:03):
police police. But then when you're getting fucked, you're like, well, yo,
what nine one one? Motherfucker?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, it's like no taxes, my house on fire, I
need the fire department.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
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and we're back on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Do you think people that are creating AI have humanity
in mind at all? Like the Sam all ish.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Ish, I think. I think it's really fun to create villains.
I think people need like I think just how humans
are we want to villainize people? I think a couple
things News Alert. Do I think people have self interest? Yes?
I do. But do I think like people are inherently
direct pieces of shit and want death from everyone? I
(17:53):
do not. Of course, there's some tough people that have
come along in history. But I don't think Sam's sitting
there and be like, Oh, this is awesome to get
all the money and everyone's gonna be fucked. First of all,
I think the technology is so bad. If you really
know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I don't know what that means I really know, because
I feel like I kind of know. I don't know
if I really know.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Well, if you really know what's going I appreciate that.
If you really know what's going on, I will tell you.
Because I'm fortunate to run in some pretty interesting tech circles.
They're all scared of how big it really is. It's
kind of a little Frankenstein. It's like this monster is
pretty and if you look, it's not hard to look
this up. A lot of the leaders of all these
companies do talk about like, hey, we're trying to figure
(18:32):
it out, like this is big, big, and so look,
I'll be honest with you, I'm much more concerned about
governments than I am about entrepreneurs. Like everyone's like, oh,
Sam Altman, and then when we have like police dogs
with missiles on their backpack, AI dogs running around like
let there be no confusion. Everyone like Anthropic and Open
(18:53):
AI and all these companies. They're very powerful. You know
what's more powerful America and China and Russia. I think,
I think what we're fearing the governments. The thing I'm
most interested in is what does full scaled surveillance and
police state look like in society.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Like planners kind of what it sounds like to me now,
Like how the governments choose it. That's a I mean,
that's just in they're in.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
There, and it's just like I just think people forget
that government. For example, on the jobs thing, let me
bounce around a little bit less daunting. If we have
thirty percent unemployment, let me give you the news alert,
and what's going to happen. The government's gonna print cash
and people are gonna work three days a week. And
by the way, news alert, ninety percent of people are
gonna love it. Let me say it again. Remember how
(19:40):
much everyone loved COVID. You sat at home playing video
games and drinking fucking champagne and the government's sending you
money in the mail. People loved it. I didn't love it.
I fucking hated it. But again, you and I are
sitting here for whatever reason, like I think, and by
the way, what if extreme capitalism led to a form
of socialism, like, let's call it space of speed. How
(20:02):
many people on Earth? Let's just use America. How many
of the three hundred and thirty million people would love
to work three days a week and make the same
amount of money because the government's subsidizing it, because they're
taxing the ten companies that made all the money. I
have a funny feeling a lot, and I have no
judgment on that. I wouldn't like that. I want to create,
I want to build. It's in my blood. But I
(20:24):
don't know. There's some really interesting, untold stories that are
going to play out here in the next twenty years,
and I'm curious, but honestly, real talk, I'm optimistic. I
know the last five minutes a lot of people got
spooked or worried. I just would not underestimate the human being.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
What you're saying now reminds me of the conversation that
Elon Musk was having, and I've seen him have it
in a couple different places, where he talks about how
in years there will be a living wage. It will
be just that AI will do the jobs. People will
be able to stay at home. There's no reason to say,
for retirement, and he's acting like this is happening in
ten or twenty years. But it is wild to think
(20:59):
that we'll call super capitalism because my brain will just
think could result you like that?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Right, I've been playing with that line of social it's
what if extreme capitalism?
Speaker 2 (21:09):
It literally that triggered.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
A form of socialism of like, that's a brain fuck up.
They're all one hundred years of debating this. That was
the outcome. Yeah, I mean I never saw that ten
years ago. It looks very definitely you know the plink
go board, Like what path are we going to take?
It's definitely one of the paths, especially if you understood
how money is made. You know, if you if you
really go very highbrow and very thoughtful. The world is
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predicated on weaponry, which then allows a country like us
to print money in perpetuity based on nothing.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Because we have more weapons, bigger weapons.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
You got it?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Right, Like it just goes back to third grade the
kid that grew Did you have a friend that like
was fully his full size by fifth grade? Yeah? Big
shout out to Garrett van Fleet. Garrett van Fleet, known
in our parts of Western Jersey as First Touch Net
Last to touch backboard. Was a monster in sixth grade?
Has not grown since? Were that monster in sixth grade? Like,
(22:08):
and so is China right now? And you know that
kind of keeps the world at bay because everyone's scared.
And who would have ever thought that atomic bombs were
actually going to lead to peace? That's the most countertake
ever if we're sitting and doing this podcast in nineteen
forty nine. And that's why I actually think this whole
AI demonization reminds me a lot of the atomic bomb.
(22:29):
It is one of my hypothesis. I don't know if
I'm right or not, but I don't think a lot
of people in nineteen fifty thought the atomic bomb was
going to be the anchor to unprecedented peace.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
It's the ultimate checks and balances there you go, So.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
What if AI became the ultimate balance to work life balance?
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (22:49):
So would AI within countries? In your mind? Could that?
Is it a race within countries to have the ultimate
AI because then you have the biggest atomic bomb.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yeah, but I think they could come outized. You know,
you hit a certain level much like atomic bombs where
it's like maybe like I'm not educated enough, Maybe our
atomic bombs slightly better than China's or vice versa, but
the punchline is to both the fucking atomic bomb. I
think AI is gonna, you know, everyone's like which model.
I think it's like big data in my marketing world.
Eventually you realize that the IRS and Visa, MasterCard and Walmart,
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like everyone had enough data that it kind of got commoditized.
I have a funny and you see it now right.
It's not like I have to predict on this, Like
most of this shit is like, oh today, Nano did
this and tomorrow open Like it all feels like there's
thirteen that are all Higgs Field versus you know, Runway,
Like it feels like all of them are kind of
like one upping each other every fucking week and they're
all just like gonna be fucking epic and like what
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a brain fuck. Like, for example, I think I'm gonna
launch a music album because of AI. I have a
lot of things I want to say, and i'd be
a great rapper, big issue. I have no musical talent,
but the words I say are very much in that
vein which I think has led to my popularity. And
I love hip hop and I want to make it
for myself. And then I just might leak it and
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sell forty million elbows?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Do you feel okay with the booing at the commencement speech?
That will happen to you if you make an AI
album of music.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yes, which is why I wouldn't do it until I
felt the world felt that that was okay. Like I
want to do it now, but I have a very
good feeling. Not only would I get booed, I might
even get stabbed, and I prefer not to get stabbed.
And very honestly, I'm too empathetic because I love the
music genre and I love all of those artists, so
many friends and so many people I admire. I know
(24:38):
it's not the right timing now, and I want to
understand what the culture, what humanity feels about it. But
the technology is there, and I know it's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
It's already happened if we go less existential.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
And I got a lot of people from the states
that I live in, Tennessee, Arkansas, Iowa, Alabama that are
watching this.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Well.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
AI doesn't really affect me, but I would love to
know how it could affect me positively. How can somebody
that has a normal joby going in grind in a way,
how could they use AI to benefit their lives?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
I mean a lot of ways. I mean I think,
you know, first of all, it's just opportunity. You know again,
it's Internet, it's social media, it's pure opportunity. So I
think first you just got to spend five hours using
AI to educate yourself about AI.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
It's very meta, so just getting on like yeah, just
a claude.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yeah. And by the way, like you know, listen, I
have offices in Chattanooga, Tennessee. I do a lot of
stuff in Minnesota. Like I've been very middle of America
out even though I'm a Jersey boy my whole life.
I don't think this is a Middle America versus coastal
versus first world country versus third world country. I think
this is just mindset. There's unlimited people in Middle America
that are ready deep into claude and open AI, and
(25:50):
there's unlimited people on the coasts that are demonizing it.
This is just a human binary thing of are you
an optimist or you a pessimist? Right, And I think
if you're an optimist or if you're in the middle,
if you're purple, not red or blue on this right now.
I hope this is the podcast that just gets you
to download it at least taste it. You know, I'm
not even going to get into harnesses and personal computers
(26:11):
and open claw and like all the shit I'm already
doing and others that are very off the charts doing.
I think, just using it for information. But like when
we get into agentic, agent's like eventually, just so everyone knows,
in fifteen years, your AI is going to be shopping
for you, reordering stuff for you. I think the biggest
pro for AI. Let me just curve all this because
(26:33):
I want everyone to hear this. This is often the
singular thing that gets people to look at this technology
slightly differently. The biggest pro is what it's doing in medicine.
Here's a trade. Let me ask you this very simple question.
If I told you that this is how life would
have worked out if AI was not invented like it
(26:54):
just seven years ago, you won't lose your job. You
won't I like it. But your daughter's going to be
diagnosed with a deadly disease that was unable to be
found without AI and will pass away at thirteen years old.
I don't like it, correct I just have a funny
feeling everyone's going to trade the job part for the
health and well being and the extra decade with their
(27:15):
mom and the extra sixty years with their daughter. And
I'm incredibly a static about AI medicine because people's lives
are about to be saved at an unprecedented level. So
I'm very bullish on that. And as far as the
job part, where does accountability come in? Right now, you're
listening to this podcast, you were being told information that
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you should put in the work of fifty to one
hundred hours to know how to use AI and that
will help you either create a side hustle or get
another job. Now the question is are you going to
do it or are you tired, lazy, non motivated, indifferent
and you're not going to put in that hours? And
this is your strategy. And if you're listening at home,
I've just crossed my fingers and I'm about to do
(27:57):
the whole I just blew to air in my mouth,
big cheeks. Is this your strategy? Because that is not
a strategy when there's a big technology, and people should
know that. If you're grown, if you're over forty, you
watch what the internet did you watch what social media did?
You watch what the iPhone did? You should not be
delusional to how big of an opportunity and how much
of a risk is in play with this new technology.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
The Bobby cast will be right back. This is the
Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
It scares a lot of people because I think that's
what gets the most. It's going to strain the most.
I'm those videos are being fed the most because most
more people are commenting on them. The videos of AI
doing good do not hit as hard because again, they're
not getting the same amount.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
As someone who's been putting out content that is good
for the last twenty years. I'm very aware that people
peddling negativity and hate do better than me that are
pedaling love and optimism. I just don't care.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I guess my point is a lot of people are
just seeing all the negatives with AI because those videos
do better and they're served more.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
And I'm asking people to be fucking adults, yes, and
do three sixty work and be accountable. They're listening to
us right now. I'm telling all of you right now, verbinum,
that ais likely the best thing that's ever happened to you.
Now what now you get to decide if you believe
me or if you believe someone else. I would just
tell you that. Let me tell you my twenty years
(29:29):
of receipts. I've made content for twenty years, giving you
all the angles of opportunity for yourself. And I've told
you the whole time that I cannot help you. You
can help yourself. Now, let me tell you who's peddling
all this stuff that's scaring you. You're not capable. I'm
gonna scare you and vote for me or give me
your money, and I'll help you. You decide who you
want to listen to. That's some real fucking talk.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, I agree with you because I've been able to
see the advantages of it. I also understand the fears
of it because that's what people are being fed the most,
because that's what's getting the most reacts.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yes, but at one point is there accountability?
Speaker 2 (30:06):
There's not.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Well, listen, I understand we're in the greatest era of
pointing fingers and we don't like to point thumbs. I
have a problem. You're grown, and you will pay the
consequences of your actions if you literally are not willing
to be accountable, if you do not want to put
in the work to take advantage of these opportunities. Maybe
there's an argument that you should.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Lose, so survival of the fittest a bit.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Listen, I'm a big fan of balance. I am as
purple as it back to like middle versus coast, Like,
you will not find a more purple fucker than me.
I am Grimace, like.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
In my head, I had really, Yeah, in my head.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
I know that some youngsters might think Barney were a
little how old are you forty six? Man? You look
he looks you guys are pissed, right, he looks too good? No, really,
you look alone. I didn't realize. So we are Grimace
under thirty five year olds, probably not Barney. Yeah, but
I'm very purple, So I'm not one of these like
fuck it, Like I believe in you know, some levels
(31:05):
of you know, government and some levels of but I
think we I think both sides are so off the
reservation right now, everyone's furlescent, blue, radical red for.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
The same reason.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Right, That's that's what I get shown to us. The
things bad news. Everyone, I'm about to say something that's
gonna hurt your feelings. You're all the same, you know that, right, Yeah,
you're literally actually the same person. You're just on the
other side of the coin. But you are on full
tilt that you believe someone's gonna save you. How about
that shit, you believe someone's gonna save you. They've both
(31:38):
tricked you. That these this is what's bad and I
can help you, and let me break that down to
what that makes you a los her. Sorry, if you
think fucking a president or a governor or a mayor
is gonna save your life, you're in big trouble. And
I feel bad. I'm sad. That's what I put out
(32:00):
so much content. I'm desperate for you to understand you're
in control and you're capable.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
I found that sensibility is not the most shared, like
it's the enemy of being entertaining. Therefore, it is not
the most shared because it doesn't keep people on social media.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yeah, I mean again, I think that's accountability time. Like
this whole idea that what you're saying right now, I
so understand. But just to remind you, pre Internet, pre
social media, people chose to turn on CNN or Fox.
People chose to read the New York Times or the
New York Post. People have made these choices for a
long time.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
They weren't as polar than well.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
By the way, again, I got f's in school, but
I got a's and b's in history. Like the nineteen
sixties were super.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Polariz I wasn't. I don't know about the sixties.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
No, No, you didn't live the sixties. But you're a
smart dude. Why, like, what do you like confused right now?
Speaker 2 (32:46):
You known't know. I'm not help me here.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
You're confused about the sixties. You don't know anything. I
do know about the sixties.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
And I have talked to people that are older than
me and said, hey, what's more divisive Vietnam the sixties
or today?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Do you know how humans work? When you're older, you
think it's more extreme. It's also recency bias, bro. Everyone
was getting shot in the sixties.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Yeah, I mean, we haven't had a can't state for sure.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Not only that, it's all of them, it's MLK RFK JFK.
People forget that Gerald Ford had multiple assassination attempts on him.
Reagan bleeding into the early eighties, like Lenin, like you know,
like it was, I mean, you can't even comprehend the
racial tenison, like we still feel it, like think about
(33:34):
where we're now with racism and racial tensions today, you
understand the insanity that was the sixties. I think, and
here's what happened the seventies and eighties is called fatigue.
I'm actually really pumped. I'm gonna put it on wax
right now because I'm gonna clip this shit in fifteen years.
We're starting the earliest process of fatigue right now.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
But fatigue to be seen as a positive.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
I see it as a positive. Okay, it's a reset.
I don't think it's like putting our issues under the rug.
I think we've battled it out, you know, fighting. I
don't know, like you know where you grew up, But
like me and my in the eighties and Jersey at
Martin Luther King Elementary School, I learned it early, which
is like you hate someone, you fight, and then weirdly
(34:23):
you're like boys like boys. Yeah, and I feel like
in the Macro we've been fighting here for a minute now,
and like I'm actually again, I'm an optimist on this.
I believe in human beings. I think we will have
a seventies and eighties to this sixties. I think people
will be fascinated by the twenty thirties and twenty forties,
and I'm looking forward to seeing it.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Yeah. My question has always been is this super cyclical?
Like are we just doing exactly again? And which is
why I would ask about the late sixties, early seventies
in that time period and compare it to now, because
it just seems like it's then now, except with better technology.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Yeah, listen, it'd be nice of me to just say
it's exactly same. There'll be different nuances. Anything can happen.
One person can change the course of history, right, one president,
one dictator, one you know, kud Ata. Like, I'm not
gonna sit here and say it's exactly the same, but
humans do repeat the same things over and over if
you go deep enough in history, and like, yeah, I'm optimistic, man,
(35:21):
I don't know. I'll ask you a direct question, and
then I'm just looking for the body language of the
four behind the camera. I've noticed people that were red
hot on politics completely calm down in the last two
three years. Just people get tired of yelling into the wind.
You can only tweet so much anger, Like eventually you're
just gonna be lonely. And so I don't know, I'm
(35:43):
really hopeful, and I think I think there's a lot more.
I think there's a lot more understanding. For example, when
I opened my Chattanooga, Tennessee office for my agency in
two thousand and fourteen and was looking at Des Moines,
Iowa Louisville, a lot of my employees and my clients
were like, why are you doing that. I'm like, well,
(36:04):
because you know, I want to be in the trenches,
because you know, America's pretty different in the middle than
the coast. And they were like, it is. I was
so stunned by the naivete that there was like some
real cultural divides between like just genuinely literally clients, like
executives are big companies being like, it's not that different.
I'm like, it's a little more different than you think.
(36:26):
I like that we kind of know that it's a
little bit different, and I like that I can see
people starting to blend. I just see it. Listen. What
I do for a living is watch people at scale
on the internet, look at data, look at behaviors, read
qualitative data, read the four chance and the reddits and
the Twitter. I just watch. This is what I like
to do. It's how I think about business and how
I think about life. I'm telling all of you there's
(36:48):
a crack in the anger. And I think it's beautiful
and I'm excited and I hope it gets super momentum.
Anything can change it. But there is a crack in
the anger people are of you know, here you are
six years later and you're like, man, I had a
best friend for twenty two years. We haven't talked in
six years. For what? Because we saw the world differently?
(37:11):
As if you know what blows me away? Having the
audacity to think every human on earth should see life
exactly the way you see it, As if when I
first came out on the scene public speaking, I cursed
a lot. I've already been cursing here a little bit
when I went to the South. I went to Burningham, Alabama,
(37:32):
and I started doing my Gary Vee thing, and boy
oh boy, and I remember like the host was a
little bit like was trying to be mean to the crowd,
and I stopped him. I said, no, No, this is
a crowd that if you got raised by your grandma,
and we're told like cursing is the devil? Who am
I just because I grew up in the streets of
Jersey where cursing was every Third world word. I didn't
(37:55):
have the audacity, especially to go into someone else's home.
I was in Birmingham, they weren't in new And I
think that we've forgotten how to respect the home you
walk into. We've forgotten. And so if I have to
take my shoes off because that's your house rules, I
will take my damn shoes off, even if those aren't
my house rules. And so courtesy civility lost art that
(38:17):
I have a funny feeling is in the early stages
of bubbling up in a good way, and I'm seeing
that trend.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
This has been a very positive last half hour. So
I like to say thank you for that, because you
have a positive feeling about AI. You have a positive
feeling about where society is going. And I don't feel
like you're just saying it for the effect. I feel
like you believe it.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
Well.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
I have the luxury with you of you knowing my
content enough that this is not what I've been saying
about society for twelve years. You know, yeah, I do
see it. I'm incredibly hopeful that it's true. I'm incredibly
I'm a streat kid. I'm not naive that it can
turn in a dime. We saw the horrific assassination attempt
of Trump. Could you imagine if that bullet lands that
(39:00):
changes the power to anything can happen, that's life. But
I would say that I am optimistic and I will
say this to everyone. Here's a good one. I really hope.
By the way, if what I'm about to say changes
one person, then this is like the best use of
my time. And thank you for the opportunity. If you're
just listening for the last twenty minutes and you can
feel like you're tired of fighting, stop fighting. I just
(39:26):
think a lot. I think people are tired. Bro, Like,
how much hate can you deploy in one lifetime? Why
you got to ask yourself why I hate no one?
I mean, I'm not pumped about a murderer, like, but
my brain goes into like, damn, whatever happened to that childhood?
Really fucking sucks for that poor kid. Obviously, you can't
(39:47):
condemn taking another person's life, but I don't default, like
and then people are like wanting to like cancel and
fight because you see some policy issued there. And by
the way, we live in the United States. Move. Do
you know what epic the United States. Is this whole
Forefathers thing. They wrote it perfectly. Don't like Texas, go
to California, don't like New York, go to Florida, don't
(40:11):
like you know, don't like you know, Connecticut. Go to
New Hampshire. Don't like New Hampshire. Go to Tennis. And
the fact that we have options and don't need it's
not like Europe or like fuck you got it, you know,
like it's pretty cool, right, but stop hating people. What
the fuck.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
End on, dad gang? We're talking about a freaking yeah, yeah,
tell me more about that.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
This is a great American story, Like just three buddies
entrepreneurs built it. You know. I've had some success with
fashion brands Segum and Stables and other hat forward brand
is Max I just got involved with early on in
his career several years ago. And first of all, I
just think like fatherhood is the coolest. I think a
(40:55):
lot of people take a lot of pride in trying
to be a good dad. I think we have an
incredible rise of good fathering. In fact, I actually think
fathering is finding a purple. I don't know if all
of you were paying attention to this, but I love
that like, you could be nice, but you could also
be like cry when you lose and fuck eighth place
trophies and be a man and like, you know, I
(41:17):
talked to my son the other day. He's thirteen, and
I finished the sentence with like, I'm not your mom,
I'm here to be your dad, bro, and manned him up.
I bodied him a little bit and it was awesome.
And I just think fatherhood and being a dad is
in a nice era right now. I really actually think
it's one of the things that are getting to purple
the quickest. I think that's gonna beautiful for a generation
(41:38):
of children. So this brand and this entrepreneurial venture of
me getting involved in has been really fruitful because I
love anything that is selfish and selfless. I love like, oh,
this could be a good investment. I could make some
paper for me and my family while also supporting something
that if we make being a dad cool and being
a good dad cool, well that's just good for Society's
(41:59):
similar to friends. I don't know if you know what
I'm doing with that. That's my Pokemon Marble. Those are
two hundred and sixty characters, you know, you know, Fearless Fairy, ambitious, angel, empathy, elephant,
patient Panda where I get to like be a ninety
back to you being forty six. Do you remember our
cartoons where like he Man would be he Man and
at the end he'd be like and remember kids, you know,
(42:20):
remember boys, be nice to your sister. I go like,
rug and hug my sister because a man told me.
You know, our cartoons had a message. And that's what
I'm trying to do with v friends, And that's where
I am a little bit in my life. Now. I
get a lot of opportunities. But with this, I was
like seeing the pride. I've watched a lot of people
wear this hat. I've talked to some people long before
I even knew who was behind him, like hey, why
(42:41):
do you rock that hat? Literally? And because I'm Gary
Vee and I talk about this shit, people like crying
me like my dad was terrible. I want to be
a good dad to my one year old, Like really cool,
gnarly shit. So I'm really proud of those guys. I'm
excited to be involved rep up the marketing, build a business. Look,
I believe in the American dream more than anybody. I'm
a byproduct of it. It is still uncomfortably real, even
(43:03):
though people try to tell you it's not and they're
living it. Well.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
I appreciate the time. I'm also a Kaboom guy because
of you.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Really, yeah, dude, Can you guys have me back so
we could just talk an hour on collectibles. I believe
collectibles is on the pre dawn of joining music, sports
and fashion as a lifestyle genre. Everyone's collecting something handbags,
you know, lea boo boo's, like vintage clothes for the ladies, watches, sneakers.
(43:33):
I mean, but it's insane how big kaboom has gotten
if everybody doesn't know what the hell we' talking about.
We're talking about a insert in Panini sports cards called
Kaboom that have just gone completely ballistic. If you go
to eBay right now and type in Kaboom card, you'll
be blown away. I lost out on a Bruns and
Gold Kaboom last week, and I'm so angry at myself
(43:54):
because I have deep pockets and I shouldn't been a
puss and I should have been one more time. And
now I don't know if I'll forget one, and if
he wins a title here, which, please God, please, could
we end with back to Middle America. Middle of America.
I'm coming. The Knicks are playing the Spurs in San
Antonio or the Thunder in Oklahoma City. So I'm excited
to see all of you. If you listen to the pod,
when do you guys put this out soon? Good? If
(44:16):
you listen to this pod and you see me in
the arena, come and say hi, let's stap it up
because we're like minded people and got a lot of
love for you, and so thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
Yeah, I really appreciate a big fan.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
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Speaker 1 (45:23):
She's getting really not afraid to feel the tens and so.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
Just let it flow.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
No one can do WEEKD cary Line is sounding Caroline.
Speaker 5 (45:35):
I'm so excited to be hearing Raylyn.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
We're back. We're new studio, new vibes, new studio news,
same us. What are the same? I think we have
the same energy.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
What has changed since I talked to you last?
Speaker 3 (45:50):
It's been like what two years? Maybe?
Speaker 5 (45:52):
Oh my gosh, I mean year and a half at least,
because it's a winter time, so.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
My team has changed. My I put out some new
music since I've seen you. I went on I was
what tour did I do last time?
Speaker 5 (46:05):
Right?
Speaker 3 (46:05):
Did the Jason Eldane tour, which was so fun. He's
the best. I'm trying to think. Daisy's gotten older. My daughter,
Daisy's four, she'll be five end of end of this summer,
in September. It is crazy watching her, like literally you
blink and they're it's just like so it just makes
(46:29):
me very emotional. Mother's Day was yesterday. Mother's Day was yesterday.
I had a great Mother's Day. I just I mean,
we just kind of hung out, but stay by the pool,
went I had lunch. We went and got Lady Bird
Taco Daisy loves Keso, I love Keeso. And then we
got that for lunch and then uh, we just hung
out and then what was after that? And then we
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ordered we have chanks for dinner, and then we the
spicy chicken with white rice. Definitely that was crazy. I'm
not a vegetarian, It's actually funny. I'm more like I'm
a low meditarian. I'm pretty low car because of my diabetes,
so like I am health conscious because I have to be.
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And then and then we went to Dairy Queen and
got some ice cream.
Speaker 5 (47:18):
So it was a very like such a text you're
such are your texts?
Speaker 3 (47:23):
I like yes and no, I get the eminem blizzard.
They like know me there?
Speaker 2 (47:31):
Now you that often?
Speaker 3 (47:32):
Oh yeah, I at least go twice a week. We're even.
But I get like, there's a day queen by our house,
and what I know, I we go to this playground
right by. So we go to the playground, I mean
days ago getting ice cream, Like I just get like
a mini and because I know how to bullis for
it with my diabetes, Like I know exactly how much
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insulin to take, and you know it's just our thing.
Speaker 5 (47:57):
So that's really good to get. Like you are you
kind of a creature of habit with food.
Speaker 3 (48:01):
Yes, I'm a creature with food, and especially like the
thing is what I figured out with with type one diabetes. Yes,
it is like I know the things that I can
eat that are good for my blood sugar, and I
know exactly how much to take insulin for and so
and then I have like a few indulges that I'm like, Okay,
I can have an eminem mini blizzard and I can
take two point sixty units for it and it's not
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gonna hit me as much as like you know, but
I don't do it all the time. So it's like,
but I've gotten to the point where, like I now
am so stabilized in my blood sugar that I can
have those treats. Is that because you've regulated your feet?
Speaker 5 (48:35):
Yes? Did you have a moment where You're like, I
need change my life because oh yeah, I'm feeling awful
and not having control.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
Oh yeah, I mean especially being on tour you started
six Yeah, I mean I remember when I was out
on tour with like even Blake, like back in the
early days going out with like Marin, like that was
like those tours, like we're we're just I was always
trying to figure out the right pattern and the right
amount of insulind to take.
Speaker 5 (49:00):
But so you're starting touring and at the same time
you're having to navigate like a huge.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
Health I'm always navigating. But that's like people don't even
realize they see invisible disease. You know. It's like people
don't see it, but it's something that we we well
and was thinking of about it.
Speaker 5 (49:14):
You talk about it openly, but like we don't. You
talk about it and you're so bubbling ute and handling
it all, but like we don't think about like what
a day in and day out goes on to have
to like manage that.
Speaker 3 (49:23):
Well, you just always have. Like I now have my
new pump. It's like connected to my phone, so I
can see what my blood sugar is. Let's see what
it is right now, that's probably my blood sugar is.
I hope it's a good number because I'm really embarrassed.
One ninety it's not great, not one okay Oha. The
traffic has stressed me out, so it's having stress stop it.
(49:45):
Stress will spike your blood sugar, so.
Speaker 5 (49:47):
You just have to stay like eating well, perfectly pretty
centered in nervous system.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
How do you keep your nervous system called prayer and
Jesus and writing songs. It's so funny because I was
having a really stressful day and this just goes to
show the power of songwriting and being around really great people.
But my sugar was like two fifty when I got
to So, what's really high? I mean two fifties high?
I mean it's granted what you what you think is high?
(50:16):
I mean for me, like I would say that's high
because I don't sit in that spot. But right when
I got to the writing room and I started writing,
my my sugar like went down to a normal level
within an hour, and I was just like, this is
my happy place.
Speaker 5 (50:32):
You love writing songs.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
I love writing songs, and I love I love touring.
I love I love my life. God is good.
Speaker 5 (50:38):
Tell me what take Tell me what you love about
your life, breaking down what I rank it for me,
how it all fits in.
Speaker 3 (50:43):
You know, I always I always think about this, and
I think it's easy as an artist to you know
kind of I mean, I always want to I have
goals that I want to hit exactly, Like I like,
I want a number one song on country radio and
I want, but you've had a single, I've had number
one record, but never like God Made Girls didn't go
number one, No, it was top it was top fifteen.
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But you had one else that got RNG but it
was but it was it went platinum because you know
songs or song. Yeah, it was huge and then re
Triangle did really well, but it didn't go number one.
But it's like, do you know the Black CROs have
never had a number one song. I'm pretty sure that's awesome.
Speaker 5 (51:19):
Those are Michael's cousins, mean if he pats really but yes,
but I think about that because he's grown up like
I idolizing them and loving music, and it's like, you
can be number one songs are great. Yes, that does
not determine the success of a song.
Speaker 3 (51:31):
But you know, I think it's still good to have
those goals and pray for those things. You just want
it to have it well and to like, I mean,
I'm just I would love to see if it happen.
But I always like think about the fact and I
tell this to my team all the time, the fact
that I've gotten to pursue country music since I was
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eighteen years old and do it for a living and
make money to support my family. Until I to make
money doing what you love and to actually make money
doing it, we should never take that for granted. And
I think that's one thing anytime I'm feeling like a
little down or like a little what the hell's going on?
And I always remember, like we are. So I'm so
(52:14):
blessed the fact that I get to be a mom,
I get to do what I love, I get to
write songs, and people still care, you know, because it's
a very We all know this is a hard business,
but I know this is what God's created me to do.
And like the fans are amazing, and country music fans
are truly the best fans and they're always there and
they've grown with me since the voice and since I
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had a big old flower on the side of my
head and more poofy dresses with cowgirl boots. I ever
decided to retire that I know, maybe I should bring
it back this summer.
Speaker 5 (52:43):
I was thinking to do it seriously and then gosh,
Daisy like it too.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
You know.
Speaker 3 (52:48):
I have a few of my old like Betsy Johnson dresses,
and I was like, how funny would that be if
I pulled one of those out for Luke Bryan to
her you should, Yeah, I'd have to get him probably
tailored and stuff.
Speaker 5 (52:58):
Which is kind of you do it like two puntovers
two point over, you know, because I love your style
right now and I'm like, what your what is it?
Speaker 3 (53:05):
What is your style?
Speaker 5 (53:05):
Because it's like those cute little minis and tops, but
it's like totally tailored and like created. It's like my creation.
So this girl boots and like, I just love her style.
It's so perfect silver lining apparel.
Speaker 3 (53:16):
She is amazing. She she reached out to me. She
she creates looks for Rodeo girls and so her she
like with the whole Beyonce trend. When Beyonce was getting
all these different girls to make, you know, her wardrobe
for Cowboy Carter Tour. She was like, wouldn't it be
so cool if I could dress an artists, And so
(53:36):
she reached out. I put her in contact out yes,
which is so so and I love how organic it
was because she's like, I'm just a fan, Like I
love to you know, chat, and I mean like I
could help create looks, but I was like, I would
rather her work with my stylist and like it'd be
tailored to me. And then you know, my stylists can
like find like boots and like jewelry and all things
(53:56):
to go with it, so wee that's amazing. So they
start working together and it's great because it's like I
had all these cute sets from last year and so
for this summer we're just revamping those sets and adding
more stones and more friend and like little things to
put over it. And it's just been really fun. But
she's great.
Speaker 5 (54:13):
Has it been a relief or like, has it taken
some pressure off to have this iconic look that you
have now and like to have sets since to not
have to like think about it?
Speaker 3 (54:24):
It really is And that's why I love Krista. Like
the way we do it for tour is we have like,
let's say, like last year we did ten looks and
now we added four new looks and then we're revamping
the other ten. It's great because I have all my
looks in my closet and she tells me what boots like.
We I have pictures of all my boots and she's like,
I think you should wear this with this, and then
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it's great because all I have to do is grab
the boots, this and then the jewelry, and it just
makes it very and everything's tailored to me, and I
don't everything, yes, And it's like the only thing that
sucks about being an artist is like there's like my
everyday clothes. Then there's like my sweats because you know,
as girls, we have all of our lounge clothes, and
then I have my railing closet. So it's like my
(55:06):
closet looks insane, and it's like you can't wear a
freaking booty shorts to dinner, you know what I mean?
Like I mean, maybe I could.
Speaker 6 (55:14):
Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.
Host
Bobby Bones
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