August 14, 2026 • 53 mins
On this episode of Current Stuff, Bobby Bones and Eddie are joined by Josh Pate talk about the best college towns, wild softball stories, tornado chasing, and Josh’s unconventional path into sports media. Josh shares his favorite college towns, why Athens, Georgia is high on his list, and why Lubbock is one of the most underrated college towns in the country. Josh also opens up about his background in weather and what it’s actually like to chase tornadoes, including one of the most intense storms he’s ever experienced. He talks about his career journey from dropping out of high school to local news, CBS, and eventually creating the sports show he always wanted to make. Plus, Bobby, Eddie and Josh debate Twisters and the underrated women of the ’90s!
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
All right, So on today's episode, we're going to talk
storm chasing, We're going to talk greatest college towns. We'll
talk a little college football. We have Josh pat here,
who is the college football guy. Unless you're Brandon Walker
watching this now, he's still the college guy. Yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah. So first I wanted to talk about the
best college towns in America without giving you the list.
(00:34):
And you've been I think practically to all the good ones.
What comes to my top college towns?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Athens, Georgia. I love State College, Pennsylvania. Now is this
a list like a ranking?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I'm trying to guess, or is it my I want
just yours because you've been a lot of places.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I have a list, but I don't want you to
see the list before I go. Here are yours, and
we give ours?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Okay. I love Athens. I think if I were to
have to take someone from another country who wants to
see a college town on a game day, I would
take them to Athens, Georgia. I think that's pretty quintessential. Now,
you may hate Georgia, like you're a Florida fan or something,
but I don't think if you could divorce yourself from
that you could deny just the vibe of Athens. Knoxville's
a bigger town, but I still think it is a really,
(01:18):
really good college town if you're in the right spots.
Tuscaloosa can be like that. I just mentioned State College,
so Penn State. I was just up there this week,
so kind of recency biased. Too cold, though not in
August fair enough, So make sure you go up there
with me early in the season. Have you been to Eugene,
have you been to Oregon? Yes, so I think it's
(01:41):
good for me, but I'm from the South. If I
take some of my Southern buddies up there, it's really
hit or miss, like they either kind of can get
with that or they can't get with that. So that's
kind of a conditional college town.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
So isolated. It is like I can find a reason
to say everything is bad except Fanville. So just know
that I'll find a reason to hate on everything. And
Eugene's awesome. It's just so hard to get to if
you're just going there for that.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah, you're either southwest probably two stops to Eugene, or
you're probably Portland and then an hour and a half
down the coast and you're not really driving on the coast,
so you don't get the scenery. I don't know. I
like Eugene, Okay. The one that I haven't been to enough.
I've only been to a game there once is Oxford.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Oh this hurts. It's great.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
You It feels like though, if you ever walk into
like a Louis Bitton store or one of these luxury
brand stores, how they look at you when you walk in,
they kind of want to make you feel less than
just to see if you're worthy. That's kind of what
it feels like when you go and you're the opposing team,
because you go out in the grove and everybody's fancy.
It's like they wear two collars on their shirts that type. Yeah, yeah,
(02:44):
not toy one collar, they're wearing two. Or they're wearing
the flip up you know how we used to do
back in the day. So it's great though. So Oxford
is fantastic because it's all built in. You did not
mention Feteville, So I'd like to hear. Have you been
to Fable, Arkansas?
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, I like it. Very underrated, very underrated airport. By
the way. Yeah, you gotta drive twenty minutes kind of
ou in the middle of nowhere. But I remember, I
remember X and A because we're right next to BNA.
That's just a place where if I were to circle
two of them, South Carolina and Arkansas is a place
where if I could just snap my fingers in like
a couple of places or better perennially at football, those
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would be the two, because I actually I would. Arkansas
is one of my favorite places to go. I got
to get storry about in a second, which I may
have told you just about losing my vision up there
because of the moonshine over not moonshine, something even more
dangerous cold brew consumed in large quantities. I wish they
were good. I know you're trying, like I know you're
doing everything in your power. I wish that I had
(03:44):
more reasons to go up to Arkansas. People will say
all the time, why don't you come up here enough?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Hey, you suck.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
We're going to the biggest games in the country every Saturday.
The last one I could go to is when you
guys played Cincinnati to open the season a few years ago.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah, yeah, it hurts. We bought a house right next
to the football stadium, but we bought it. You know,
the market goes Mark goes down. I feel like we
got a better deal in the house because we suck
right now, which.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
I guess is one ray of sunshine. That's one way
to look at it. As at least it moves the
needle in one direction.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
People park in your yard like game day.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Well, we haven't lived there during a game a season yet.
Well I know, dude, there's the money to be made,
but twenty bucks a car, But what do I care?
I don't want to be parking in my yarda ugh,
I would put And it doesn't really count because the
city is so great. It just happens to have a
college there, Austin Austin.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I wasn't going to go.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
It's got a million residents. I know, it doesn't I
hate the Longhorns, hate with every part of me, and
I live with Longhorns and have friends that coach Longhorns.
Growing up in Arkansas, we hate Texas. But Austin is
freaking awesome. But it's not a college town. It's a
city that has a college in it.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Do you have any familiarity with Texas Tech?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Meaning I know they head football coach.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
But do you know like, have you've been out there
in the lubb.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
It but I haven't really experienced their island of Texas
technis good.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Way to put it. You haven't been to the island
of Texas Technas.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
So I've played a show. I did stand up out
there at theater, but I didn't really get to experience
the Texas technis.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
That is one I would describe that, even more so
than maybe how we describe Eugene of like people think Texas.
If you're from Michigan and you've never been there, you think, oh,
Texas is Texas. Austin and Lubbock are like Jupiter and Mars.
They're like different planets. Culturally they could not be any
more different. So that's another one. Like Lubbock, I love
it because it reminds me a little bit of sort
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of the environment I grew up in rural Georgia. So
you go out there, everyone's sleeves are rolled up, just
literally and figuratively. It's kind of like an US against
the World mentality. You feel like you're on the moon.
It's six hours from the next biggest town, and if
you're about that, it's awesome. If you're not about that,
it's like, man, how soon can I get out of here?
Since I'm about it? I love it. I took Savannah
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and my wife out there, and she had never been
pretty much west of Dallas in the state of Texas before,
and we took her out there this past year. They
played Brigham Young game days there, like it's a huge day,
so we'll go see Joey. We'll go out there the
day before and I had her spend the forty eight hours.
She couldn't shut up about it. She still hasn't shut
up about it. We've gone out there again since then.
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And I think that's one that's a little off people's
radars where if you just popped, hey, what do you
think about Lubbock, Texas on them, it would kind of
catch them off guard. It's like a little fist to
the chin in the college town conversation that they don't
see coming. But you go out there, man, it's a
different world. You may not like it, but you may
also love it. I love it.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Could you just reveal bias that you are from Georgia
and you just picked Georgia as your number one team? Like,
I know where you're from. I was just gonna let
that slide but I can't address it and said you
didn't say it.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Well, you can say I'm from Georgia. What I'm more
interested in is Georgia being my number one team, because
I said Athens was my number one town.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, I'm saying college towns though. Yeah, they said there's
some bias there.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
There is. I don't know. Yes, you could say that,
and I can't convince you of a counterfactual. I think
I would say Athens if I were from you know,
like Wichita Falls. I think Athens. If I'm going to
list you the things I look for in college town,
I'll tell you one thing that's underrated. A little bit
of terrain being baked in, like if it's not just flat.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
We went to Provo Eddie and I did a shoot
with BYU. Yeah, what a freaking city.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
I've only flown over it.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
You're on the field, And when you say terrain, that's
what it triggered, YEP, is that it's surrounded by snowcap mountains.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
It's like a screensaver basically.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah, and whatever they had Mormon's name is, he's up
on the top of it doing this, and so you're
just like, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
That's great. So they played Notre Dame there this year, obviously,
and that's the one where I'm looking at the few
places I've never been. I've never seen a game at
Brigham Young. I've never been to Provo. Maybe that's my shot,
but I don't have it off the top of my head.
But that's that Saturday. There are really two of them
this year. They're just cram packed, and that's one of
those Saturdays where you've got half a dozen games that
(07:55):
may qualify as the biggest game on any given other Saturday.
So crossed we can get out there.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I don't know, I have guilt about our Provo trip
because we go and we're hanging out. Everybody's so nice
to us, you know, the coach is awesome, and we're
going to go and work out with some of the
players and they're like, what jerseys do you want? And Eddie,
what number did you get?
Speaker 4 (08:14):
I don't remember, like seventeen or something.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Now I remember remember where at b Yu. Huh what
number should I not ask for?
Speaker 5 (08:21):
Well?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I wouldn't ask for Jim at Mann's number.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Let's think you're twelve years old. Immature more than that, Like,
what's the most immature number you could possibly ask for
that you shouldn't ask for at a school that's.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Built on sounds like an offensive lineman number. Yeah, probably
in the upper sixties. Yeah, and everyone rolls their eyes
and you did.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
It like an idiot. And I regret it. And I
don't regret anything in my life. I've learned from many mistakes.
But once I started looking at pictures and the video
of it, I hated me because I wore the number
sixty nine at BYU. It was just bad. It is bad.
I don't like me for that, and so that's my regret.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I'm gonna give a pregnant pause to let it sizzle.
So you are what age right now?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Forty six?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
You are a forty six year old successful man. And
if you're speaking to a college class right now and
someone raises their hand, mister bones, excuse me, mister bones.
What is your biggest regret in life? You're gonna go, well, Chad.
I went to Provo one time and they asked me
what jersey I want and I went sixty.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Nine, Chad.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Other than that has been a pretty good life, brother.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
That's it. That's the answer. Yeah, it used to be
when I got fined a million bucks by the FCC.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
That's distant memory.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
That's too. Number one is picking number sixty nine at
a religious school because it was stupid. It was so stupid.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
They're so nice over there that I don't even think
they realized what he did.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Oh that's a good theory.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I think that's interesting.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Great number.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
You don't think they knew, They didn't know what that meant.
Hasn't got there? Yeah yeah, so I deeply regret.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Has it got there? As it got there? It has now.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I traveled through the top five from Business Insider, are
at number five, Tallahassee, Florida at Florida State.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
To do that, Wait, wait did they list the criteria
out of curious?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah they did, so these are the best college towns
where culture, lifestyle, local college economy, population, and they also
factor in how well known is the college. Right, So
at five was Florida State. Eddie and I played a
concert in Florida State in the in the football stadium
and before you go, wow, that's cool, they had the
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stage facing like only the end zone. Yes we really playing,
Yeah yeah, we played toward the We don't say that details.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
That's all it counts.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
It's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
And that same time I try to sneak into a
frat party that night.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Oh my god, you did, dude, this might be worse
than sixty nine.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
They did not let me in continue that, and you
know what, it was parents weekend, So I thought I
had a chance, Like okay, and this was what how
many years?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
We got another dad over here? Seven or eight years ago?
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Years ago? So I'm like you, me and another buddy,
We're like, all right, let's see we can get in
and they're like, no.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Getting in here?
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Like all right?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
At number four, Gainesville, Florida, No problem with that. It's
because they haven't been good though in a while, like
consistently good. That didn't it didn't factor into yours, all right?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Uh No, it's I just didn't do a comprehensive list. Gainesville.
I would have eventually gotten to Auburn, Alabama really good one.
Auburn's excellent. I actually Auburn would be way up there,
possibly top five. I like, going, is Auburn on there? No?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Not in the top ten to me, I don't.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Know how this is no shot at FSU. The way
I would list the criteria for great college town, I
have no idea how Tallahassee Florida is above like Auburn
or Athens. I grew up within close proximity to those.
You could say that's biased, that's fine, but like those
two places are pretty awesome to me.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
That frat party looked awesome.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Dude, from the door, it looks you know what the
best part about going to Auburn was there's a gas
station near the university where you take your stuff and
you just put it on the counter and automatically reads
the price. That was Tallahassee. No, that was Auburn. It
was Yeah, it was Auburn because that's where the Charles
Barkley statue is. OK, and of everything that we did,
because we went in played ball there and shot some stuff,
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and they had a gas station that that knew the
price of a banana by just me putting it on
the counter.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I don't even know about that place. And I'm from there.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Oh yeah, I'll give you. I'll give you a detail.
So Number three Charlottesville, Virginia, University of Virginia, never been
it's it's so clean.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, it sounds clean.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
It's so clean. Number two is Arizona State Tempa Arizona.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Love it, yeah, love it.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
We went to Arizona State.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
We went to Arizonazona.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, that's a different vibe. Yeah, the Arizona vibe is
different than Arizona State vibe.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Do you mean like maybe one's a little little dirtier, grittier,
and the other one's a little.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
More Arizona stream, more maserati. Yeah, Arizona straight Corolla.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
We were late. Yeah, fair enough, say no more.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Yeah, I had number one. I've never been here An Arbor,
Michigan University of Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, it's different in a sense that they are good.
They know they're good. They make no apologies about acknowledging
that they're good. But if that's okay with you, it's
a little more sweater vest crowd, then maybe I'm used
to growing up in the South. It is a quintessential
college town experience. Though, they are right about that. That's
a good one. I probably wouldn't have rattled that one
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off because I've gone for the Ohio State game, so
I've just been totally zoned in on the game when
I've been there. That is a good one.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Though, have you ever seen him at he hit US
soft ball?
Speaker 4 (13:38):
I would imagine he just smacks the crap out of it.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
It's crazy, like he's jackshit. He obviously works out and
takes care of his body, and like I respect that.
And still though it's different the physiology to hit a
softball than it is just a bench press a lot,
it's unreal. He does the thing where he walks up
and swings and walks back to the dugout. It's just
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a safe time. What do you mean of all the
content he does? And I'm a fan of Josh because
he created his own lane. Like to me, I'm a
massive do your own thing if you can, even if
you can't, like figure out how to patch it together
and make it work. Like to me, that's the Josh
paid story is like he did it himself. But the
second thing is he hits a softball a mile And
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when he posts content, that's my favorite thing.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah, and you do a lot of great but it's
when he posts on story he'll be like yeah, like
he'll put a ball with like a rocket on it.
He'll just walk up gone, he walks right back to
the dugout. So wow, how does that feel to just
be an athletic monster out on that field?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Okay, well, conditionally, now like we are talking about Smirnit
Tennessee on a Friday night.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
That ball goes out anywhere. The balls I see you hit,
they go out it in any park.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
It's fun. I love hitting, like hitting athletically, whether it's
baseball or softball. Outside of working out, That's always been
my favorite thing I play. I didn't play basketball, but
I've played most of the other sports growing up. I
played basketball growing up, but I just didn't like it.
But of all the things that you could do repetitively
in sports, hitting like when you hit good, it's a
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really really good feeling. Love it.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Will you be able to send us a video because
when we clip this, I want to make sure we
have a video of you launching a ball.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I think I can round one up.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Dude, you've seen athletic feats until you've seen Josh Payton
Smart of Tennessee on a Wednesday night six thirty game.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Hey whatever, now whatever, this.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Is the league you're in, that you're in a softball.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I love it. I do some absurd things that end
up costing a lot of money logistically of travel wise,
so I could play in that Friday night league. I
love playing softball.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Do you ever not hit a home run?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Oh yeah, plenty of times. Three home run limit per game.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Do you get all three though?
Speaker 3 (15:51):
On your team, I'd say most of the time, if
someone's gonna hit three, yeah, not all the time though,
Like I mean, I'm not the only one on the
team who could hit one out. Oh but you're by
the guy that hit the farthest right when you count,
the same goes in the crew one with a shot.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Okay, this is a philosophy. Yeah, one time, long time ago,
when I had stopped playing baseball and I started playing softball.
They're all kind of unwritten rules and float pitch softball.
Anyone who's played the game for any length of time
knows that if you're playing in a certain caliber of
that sport, like travel ball, it's all former minor league
baseball players, you can hit the ball up the middle.
You can do whatever you want to if it's a
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if it's a caliber below that, guys who are playing
for fun church league, they're doing it one night a week.
Like there are people well over fifty years old in
some cases on these fields don't be hitting the ball
up the middle. I didn't know that, so I hit
a guy in the net, like just next to his
throat one time. I knew him. He's like a friend
of mine. And he fell and it makes that like
a kind of a smack sound against his neck, and
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I was terrified. Fortunately he didn't get hurt bad. But
if it hit him in like the esophagus, I have
no idea what would have happened. I have not hit
the ball up the middle again since then. That was
in know, maybe twenty ten. That's at least fifteen sixteen
years ago, so I don't but I see it happen.
We had a guy, I kid you not, man, this
is a serious story. I played with a buddy in
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a tournament Manchester, Georgia, and we're playing outfield and it's
we're in like our fifth game of the day and
he is playing left field. So guy hits a ball
and he's my buddy is going to get under this ball.
He's camped and he knows, all right, I'm good, I
can cut off sprinting. He turns around and he's kind
of like coasting in a backpedal, catches the ball, trips
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over his foot a little bit, sling shots himself into
the fence. This field had like light poles built into
the fence, which is dangerous. His head just so happened
to hit one of those poles flush against the pole,
knocked unconscious. It had seizures right there on the field
in front of me. They had to land a life
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flight helicopter on the field in Manchester, Yeah, and airlift
him down to Columbus, which is like forty five minutes
south of Manchester. I mean, he was never quite the
same again, gos like, he's terrifying. I'd never seen anything
like that happen before.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Were you a basher when you played baseball in high school?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
In my junior and senior year, I got to where
I could hit like that, but I never touched weights
until my sophomore year. So, I mean I first worked
out in tenth grade, and they had a rule. I
went to Harris County High School in west central Georgia.
There's a rule in there, which is probably a good rule,
that you can't be working out in the general population
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until you can bench, power clean, and squat one hundred
pounds each, like that's the minimum threshold. So I could
not power clean or bench one hundred pounds. So I
had to work out with the girls for a little
while in a separate workout group when you used to
still have co ed weight training. And then I finally
graduated up. So I started from whatever the bottom is.
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I started below the bottom on strength raining. But then
I was like so underdeveloped that it was like leaps
and bounds. Once I finally learned to eat and lift
halfway properly, so like junior and senior year, Yeah, I could.
I just wish that I had been at a serious
place that made me work out, because unfortunately I was
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not then mentally like I am now. No one needs
to tell me to do it now. Back then you
had to drag me in the weight room and like
make me do it because I just didn't have the
mental discipline.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Edy, you'll be freaking out of your shoes when you
see him hit a ball. Wait to see you know,
I have all the things, and he's built his own empire.
It's hitting us off ball that I'm there.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
You go, hang tight.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
The Bobby Cast will be right back, and we're back
on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I do want to talk stormchasing for a second. Why
do you do that? Do you have a background in weather?
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah? My background is the year's nineteen ninety six twister
comes out the movie. Yes, I go to see the movie.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
I go to see it.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
That was awesome.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
And that's my background.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
See just what fascinated two things?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
All right? So Twister came out in ninety six. I
was a kid. I think that in Titanic and weirdly
a Denzel Washington movie called Deja Vu. Those are the
only movies I saw in theaters three times. So that's
how fascinated I was by Twister. Also, I only watched
Sports Center in the Weather Channel at my MEMM's house
growing up. That's how I learned my geography. That's how
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I learned my stats. That's how I learned everything that
I knew about the world was Sports Center and the
Weather Channel. And then when Twister came out, like I
was gobsmacked by it because I'm in that really really adventurous,
nothing's impossible sort of stage of childhood. And then I
found out I already have a fascination with atmospheric science
from watching Weather Channel all the time. There are people
who do this recreationally, like there are people who go
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out and do that. Maybe one day you can even
make money on it. Then you fast forward all these
years later and it's a whole industry. It's an industry
of content creation, but it's also an industry of You
could be out there for scientific reasons, you could be
working on government grant money. But there are people out
in the field now. And the best way I can
describe it for the ninety nine percent of people watching
(21:10):
this who smartly will never put themselves in close proximity
to a tornado is if you picture the adrenaline mixture
of like being at the very top of a roller
coaster as it starts to go down, and if you
mix that with sex, and if you mix that with
being in a haunted house right as someone jumps out
(21:32):
to scare you. If you mix those three feelings, that's
what stormchasing feels like. In the peak moments. That's what
it feels like. It's unbelievable. It's not for everyone. It's
for almost no one. But if you're like a little
twisted and it doesn't like that meter that's supposed to
go off inside of you that says don't do that
doesn't exist, and it doesn't exist in me, it's incredible.
(21:56):
There's nothing else like it. I do it every spring.
That's why I cover college football for a living.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
You had one turn on you and come back at you.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah. March third, twenty nineteen, we were done in Beauregard, Alabama.
Twenty three people ended up dying within a quarter mile
radius of where we were. And it's a big EF
four tornado. This is near Auburn. Actually it's between Auburn
and Columbus. We were having to do what is called
core punching, which is where you're not where you're supposed
to be, so you're having to attack the thing from
(22:23):
the north. Normally, when you're attacking tornadic supercell from the north,
you got to go through a hail core. In a
big rain core, you want to be south of it.
It's clear, normally you can see things from the south
of it, and so we thought we'd have time to
core punch it. But it's moving northeast about sixty miles
an hour. We're going south, you know, so it's coming
this way, and I realized we don't have time, but
I realized really late. So we you turn it right
(22:46):
as that thing crosses in front of where we would
have been, and then we were the first ones to
come in on the back side of it. Destruction like
I had never seen before. You had fatalities. First responders
aren't there yet. This is like the most most terrible
environment imaginable.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
How close were you to doing that instead of doing
college football?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I'm still close now to doing it.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
No, but now you've built you're a college football guy.
But to be in camp toward junior how close were
you to doing that?
Speaker 2 (23:15):
No, I'm still close. Now you're doing it. I'm dead serious.
I mean, you and I are. So just think about this, Okay,
if you and I were talking in nineteen ninety six, Yeah,
you pretty much have to exist in a lane, just
the way that's the way the media industry, the entertainment
industry worked twenty twenty six. You just don't have to
think like that. So, yes, college football will always be
(23:36):
the core of what I do. But if you start
to be successful there, and then your company starts to
scale and you got all kinds of different opportunities and
financially you're not nearly as strapped as you used to be,
there's room to pursue all kinds of different projects. That's
always been one that's been right there on the shelf.
I've had the concept. I've just been waiting to be
able to BANKRLL it because I don't really like borrowing
(23:57):
money from people, so I've been waiting until I can,
and we can do it now. I mean truthfully, I
tell you this because I know we're doing it, because
we've already been like six months down the road on it.
So it's not necessarily maybe something i'd be the face of,
like I'm built for college football, but I think there's
a huge, huge, untapped market still for what we're talking
about out there.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
What did you think of the sequel?
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Is that Twisters?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
It is good? Good title, too obvious, very good, very
good title. Yeah, I thought it was good for what
it was. I thought that it was such a missed
opportunity to not have more callback to the first Twister,
Like there's so many layups. The last scene in Twister,
the original spoiler alert spoiler very important spoiler alert. As
(24:47):
we as we come up on the thirtieth anniversary important
spoiler alert.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
It's Bill and just Helen Hunt and Bill Paxton. They
get back together.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
They're they're probably getting covered in rass sewage. Something's raining
down on them, some kind of pie his burst and
then credit troll and we don't know what happens after that.
It would have been so easy thirty years later to
just incorporate the concept that maybe they had kids, maybe
they ended up together. Because the unfortunate part was by
the time Twisters comes out, Bill Paxton has passed away,
(25:16):
Philip Seymour Hoffman has passed away. Like there were central
figures of the original movie. You can't incorporate anymore, but
you can instill. You can still incorporate themes from it,
and they didn't. So it was a good movie. I
just thought there was so much left on the table,
which so they're not related, they're not really.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
No, Like if you saw the Tornado though, was the
son of the Tornado from Twitter that you need me
to lead you there? If you just wipe through the credit,
you would have seen that you saw the old Tornado
talking to the young Tornado, like, yeah, you made me proud.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yes, maybe that's what we cover in Twisters is maybe
that's what they cover.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Hey, Loki, Helen Hunt, underrated babe of back in our Day.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Let's talk about it. I just watched What Women Want
the other night. I think there's a conversation to be had.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
I think that she doesn't get the credit she deserves.
Even I have to be reminded of it, but she
was for a teenage kid who like to be alone.
She was awesome, like even mad about you. Yeah yeah,
so I mean, Paul Riser Man, what, I don't have
anything in my eye.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
There's a conversation to be had, I think because this
as a kid, this is how I viewed Helen Hunt.
There I would watch if I watched National Lampoon's Vacation
and I see Christy Brinkley, that is not obtainable. Obviously
I'm a kid and she's a full grown adult. But
I think to myself, no, people like me don't grow
(26:44):
up to marry people like Christy Brinkley. Helen Hunt had
an obtainability about her.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
It's like she lives next door.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yes, possible, Gilligan's Island.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Maybe maybe it's like you could conceptualize it.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
At least it's it's the Gilligan's Island. It's why people
because there was marionn Yeah, skipper too, this conversation with
a skipper. You can have a skipper, but you know,
the girl next door was the one that most people
like related to. I just searched underrated babes in the nineties.
Come on, Parker Posey oh yeah, I think so.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Yeah, dayson confused come on?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
And also she was not nineties but white lotus as
an older lady. Yeah, still had the.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Yeah still hot. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Well I didn't say that what I wanted. I didn't
want to say that, but I still had.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
You know.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Also Robin Tunney.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
I don't know that is.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Remind me who that is?
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, no, same, let's google immager.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Not a good idea. Not a good day for Robin.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I know she's watching, Okay, I remember do you remember
Robin Tunny?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Oh yeah, I would have known the face a lot
of these I'll know the face of I may not.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
What was she on Robin Tunny? You would know her
from things such as Empire Records and Sino Man. I
think she was the main girl in in Sino Man. Yeah,
musically Fiona Apple Ah, she was the man talk about
strung out hot is what kind of that? And then
she was always too A lot going on? What was
(28:19):
going on in her head?
Speaker 2 (28:20):
A lot going on?
Speaker 1 (28:22):
And then another one was I don't know who this is.
Carrie wore her she's from Anaconda and Sliders. I gotta
look her up.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Ka r I she took a back seat if she
was in anaconda. W h why, I mean, that's the
snake nearly peaked j Lo. That's post Selena j Loo.
That's Jlo when she she's rolling at that point.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Ever, was a Jlo guy.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
I didn't say you couldn't hit mute. I didn't say
you had to consume the film a certain way. And granted,
the snake did a great job in the movie, but
I thought jo.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
The snake was an oscar that went to lead actor
would be the snake in your story. To me is
extremely inspiring because of kind of how it started. Let's
act like I don't know it. How did this Josh
Pate get to because you're just big and famous now,
but you weren't. You were just working local.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Right before media, I was just working in warehouses and
construction sites. Because I came out of high school. I
was like a tweener where you don't grow up broke,
but you're closer to broke than wealthy, because when we
couldn't even spell wealthy. But you're not growing up in
your back against the wall. You're not some impoverished kid
(29:39):
who knows I got to make it or my family
screwed it. Wasn't quite like that, so I didn't really
know what I wanted to do. When I graduated high
school in Georgia, they have the lottery thing, the Hope Scholarship.
If you have a B average, you get a couple
of semesters paid for. So I did that, ended up
dropping out of school because I had no direction. I
had no idea what I wanted to do. I was
failing classes, so I just got in construction heating, in
(30:03):
air installation. I was working in a fabric warehouse for
several years, and I was just listening to sports talk
radio every day. And I'm early twenties by that point,
approaching mid twenties, Like, still no idea what I want
to do, And I just remember so vividly. Nick Saban
got hired at Baman in O seven. He came to Columbus.
He spoke in Columbus, and I borrowed forty five dollars
(30:26):
so I didn't have any money to go. And he
spoke that night about some stuff that wasn't revolutionary. Like
clearly the message had been disseminated before Sabin said it
that night, but I had never had it click with me,
the idea of how to properly set goals, how to
put the goals to decide, how to engage in process
oriented thinking, how to inventory your time and convert time
(30:48):
spent into time invested. I'm just like mind blown. It's
just a higher level of thinking that I never knew existed.
So I knew, Man, you got to either make a decision.
It's the Tracy Chapman kind of lyrically like, we got
to make a decison or live and die this way. That's
kind of how it was. And so your mid twenties,
you realize you're not a kid anymore. You look around
and there's so many people if you grow up in
(31:09):
a small town anywhere in this country, there's so many
people who have never left. And there's not anything wrong
with that, but you can kind of sense like an
aura of what could have been, maybe even an aura
of regret. And you know you're about to become another
one of those. And so I got my act together,
and I know I've got talent to do something. And
(31:30):
I know I love sports talk radio, I love sports media.
I consume college football year round. I love it. I'm
immersed in it. Could I ever do this for a living?
So I'm just like beaten down the door of the
local radio affiliate, the ESPN radio affiliate in Columbus. It
was WIOL fifteen eighty the zone in Columbus. So the
program director just let me come in to observe, which
(31:52):
is all I wanted to do. Truthfully, I was not
begging to be put on air at all. I wanted
to come in and like, if I could sit in
the corner and here right now and observe pre deduction happening.
I'd never seen it before, so I went in there.
I did that for like a month or two. Maybe.
One morning it's during football season. His co host calls in,
can't make it in. It's like five minutes to airtime.
Last minute, I'm out, So he has no time for
(32:15):
a backup plan, and he just threw me on area said,
do you want to hop on air today?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
That's the fantasy. It's awesome. I didn't know how awesome
it was that day, but you were terrified of that.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
I really wasn't no time. If he would have given
me a day, I would have been terrified.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
He gave me five minutes.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
So I do the show. It's awesome, man. It's afternoon
drive caller based radio in the South during football season.
It's a layup. It's like it's easy, and it was
so natural. So after we got done with the show,
he because the program director was also the host of
the show, he asked, where have you worked before? So
I'd never worked before, But he thought I was lying
when I said I'd never worked anywhere before. Because if
(32:52):
you go back to the Sabans thing from a few
years earlier, Saban talked about defining your goals and then
converting some of the time you're spending aka waste during
your day to time invested, so repurpose that time to
align with your goal. My goal was I wanted to
do this for a living. I realized, I'm driving around
in my truck sixty to ninety minutes per day just
listening to music, which is fine, but I'm not getting
(33:13):
anything out of that. How do I invest that time?
The way I invested it was I just simulated sports
talk radio. I would turn on Mike and Mike or
Colin Cowherd or someone, let them begin a segment, and
then hit mute and I'd pick it up where they
left off. Did it for a year and a half
to two years, not knowing that it was going to
lead to one day me just being thrown on air
(33:34):
like that was my big break. I didn't know what
it was coming. The morning I woke up, the dude
thought I had done it for a living because I
had gotten hundreds of hours of reps just doing it
my truck. So I never get taken off air, and
I do radio for a couple of years, then local
TV calls and I do local sports and doing my
own local college football show. That becomes being their news
(33:55):
anchor for a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
That's crazy. Yeah, you were the news anchor from sitting
in and just being able to hop on the air
right even that if the story ends right there, what
a story that is?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
That's what I said at the time of story.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
That you Yeah, you're the news anchor. Yeah, but you're
doing Did you like doing news? No?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
No, I didn't like doing news because it's it's news.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Was it going to raise from sports to the anchor though?
Is that why you took the job?
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Yeah? I think I went from I went from twenty
seven thousand dollars a year twenty four thousand dollars a
year to thirty thousand dollars a year to anchor news,
which if you're not making any money, is a lot
of money. But that's that's about eleven or twelve years ago.
That's where we are on the timeline right now, and
that's when it all started to happen, because that's when
podcasting is really starting to become a thing. That's when
(34:43):
Facebook Live becomes a thing. That's when YouTube live becomes
a thing. So, as you well know, if you were
in our industry up to that point, if you were
ever gonna do any kind of national anything, you had
to have massive overhead and distribution. You had to have
someone with the keys to really really fancy production facilities,
(35:05):
and you had to have a syndication.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Deal, yeah, the gatekeepers.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
You had to be on network like that was it.
And in my world of sports media, if you're not
from Syracuse J School or Northwestern Missouri, chances are you're
not going to make it. So to that point in time,
it just looked like a dead end to me. And
all of a sudden, then all those barriers just break down,
like Berlin Wall's coming down, and you realize, if YouTube
live is going to be a thing, that means distribution's
(35:31):
the Internet, and that means overheads in your hand, because
theoretically you could just go live from anywhere. So I
started doing a college football show. I would literally go
in the control room because it looks fancy after the newscasts,
and I would set up my phone, I would go
live and I would just start doing it in the
last for two weeks and management at the TV station said,
you can't do that. That's a brieki.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
You wagged a finger in the face.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
So I had to wait a whole year until my
contract was up, and they wanted to renew me and
bump me to thirty five per year, and I said, no,
not if I can't do this, because like, my future
clearly is not being a news anchor. My future is
doing this, and they thought I was bluffing. So he
get to the last day of my contract and they
called me news director and GM called me into the
office and said, are you going to sign the contract
(36:17):
or not. I was like, I already told you know,
and they said, but what are you going to do?
They thought I was going to a rival station, That's
what they thought. And I said, no, I told you
what I'm going to do. I'm going to start a
YouTube channel. And their first words to me were, but
what are you going to do for money? Because this
is twenty fifteen. No one's monetizing YouTube At that point.
It was a foreign concept, but you could tell it
(36:38):
was coming. I thought it was coming like it was
easy to see where the industry was going to go.
So we arrived in an agreement where I would stay
on to be their news anchor, but work as an
independent contractor making far less. But the trade off, which
was gold, was they'll give me the studio for three
nights per week to produce anything I want to out
of it on my channels.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
So we started doing the college football show and it
took a few years for us to grow it, but
then it really blew up. In twenty nineteen, Joe Burrow
in LSU season, it really blows up. CBS sees it
and calls me and they offered me a job. I
moved to Nashville right before twenty twenty. I start a
new channel from scratch, but under their umbrella, COVID sets
(37:21):
in world of sports go dark. Everybody who has a
sports show starts talking about things they have no business
talking about. I stuck to college football a bunch of
alienated audiences came to our show because we just talked
about college football. Shows scaled immediately. Executives come back to
work eight months later and realized, Wow, this show is
already making money. Don't touch it, leave it alone. So ironically,
(37:44):
because of COVID, we got to do the show the
way we wanted to, instead of having a lot of
corporate hands in the kitchen. And we proved the concept
really quickly, and I got a new contract one year in.
I got a new contract another year in after that,
and really it came time to negotiate ownership of IP,
ownership of assets because I knew, I mean, the show
(38:05):
is blown up. By twenty twenty three, it had already
since blown up. And I knew, if I go one
more contract, I'll make a lot of money, but I
will never own this. And I went back and forth
with CBS, because CBS offered me an astronomical amount of
money to just sign a five year deal, and I
said no, and I countered with a number that was
far less but also included ownership of my channels and
(38:28):
my feeds and my IP. And we went back and
forth for six months and it was no, no, no,
no no, And then it was Yes, they just caved
and I signed for another year with them that ended
in twenty twenty four, and I went out on my
own and now it's my everything. I own the production company,
we produced the show. And now you live in a
world where you do your show, you own it, you
(38:50):
sell it, you do everything that there is to do
with it, and then you just like if ESPN calls
and says we want to sign you to a talent deal,
you just go do a talent deal with them. It's
like the best of all worlds. But it took a
long time to get there.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
That three years where you're building and there's not a
lot of movement probably was exciting. Were there's stagnant moments
where you wondered if that was the right decision.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yes, I got evicted. I had no money. I was
beyond broke. I had no money because I had lowered
down to making because I was making like twenty four
when I started as as a sports anchor. I ended
up making less than that on the upgraded news anchor
independent contract deal. So I wasn't making YouTube revenue yet,
(39:35):
and so I'm making less than twenty five thousand dollars
and I'm trying to do odd jobs to just like
make ends meet, and they're not really meeting. And that's
you know, you say that really quick. It takes me
forty five seconds to say that. But that's a solid
three year chunk of your life where you've jumped out
of the plane and you're pulling the cord and the
parachute's not immediately coming open. You still got a little ways.
(39:56):
You still hope it'll open, but you don't know. I
just believed in the concept so much like I'm not
someone who constantly has the light bulb go off above
his head, so when it does happen, I pay attention
to it. And that's one of the moments where it happened.
It was just so clear to me, you're driving through
thick fog right now, but if you'll keep your foot
(40:16):
on the gas, it will clear up. And it eventually
cleared up, and you know, very similar to how I
told you that day at the radio station, happened where
you wake up that morning you have no clue. It's
one of the biggest days of your life. The day
that Shannon Terry called me, who was running twenty four
to seven Sports at the time, which was owned by
CBS the day he called me and offered me that job.
(40:37):
I had no idea that call was coming on that day.
It's like two or three of the biggest breaks in
my professional career have come on days I would have
least suspected anything big to happen that day.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
The Bobby Cast will be right back. Welcome back to
the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
It's funny when people talk about luck or even breaks,
and I think that's how we have to refer to them.
But when you talk about you getting hey, we got
to go on in five minutes, you were ready for that,
I think about I was working in a much lesser
capacity on American Idol. I was on every episode, but
I wasn't the host. Yep and Secrets was sick and
he's never been sick ever. And it were ten minutes
before going on in your live and they go, hey,
(41:17):
you have to fill in. And it wasn't nervous because
I didn't have time to be right. And then not
only that I had done so many freaking hours getting
ready that I wasn't. I never got nervous, like I
was built to do that. Afterward, I was like, oh
my god, can you After it was over, I think back,
and I just think, I'm so glad they didn't give
me a day to think ahead of time and to
(41:43):
try to plan what I was going to do and
say because again I had done all the reps, that
it was so natural that the only reason I didn't
ruin it is because I was going off of instinct
and repetition.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
That's why every great coach will always try and drilling you.
Just trust your preparation. Trust your preparation. If you're not prepared,
you got a whole different set of issues. If you're prepared,
the only thing they can get in your way is
what your mind tries to do to you. That's why
what you're talking about, what I'm talking about the sweet
spot is have it come out of nowhere, because if
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you're prepared, it doesn't matter if it comes out of nowhere,
you'll handle it fine. And the same opportunity may be
presented to you a week earlier. You're still as prepared
in scenario B a scenario A, but in scenario B,
when you got a week to think about it, your
mind can mess you up, which is why the best
who are in the coaching capacity always tell you forget
about that just trust your preparation. Trust your preparation, because
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I agree with you. When we were doing local news,
I will tell you the one thing I loved about
local news, which is otherwise so monotonous and boring to
me because you're reading a teleprompter all day. I loved
breaking news because then we got to ad lib, and
that's the only thing that was fun to me. Now,
if it's a story about like a triple homicide or something,
the story's not fun. But that's the only time I
(42:55):
felt alive. Otherwise I'm doing morning shifts. You gotta wake
up a three thirty in the morning to go into
on air at five. You're trying to keep yourself awake
during breaks. That's when I first started drinking coffee. I'd
never consumed it before. I only started drinking coffee because
it was on air every morning at five o'clock, not
doing something I necessarily love to do.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
I don't feel like you were lucky that morning, and I
don't feel like I was lucky that evening. I feel
like eventually our opportunity was going to hit us, and
it was when that opportunity met all the work that
we had put into it. I do feel like, eventually
I was going to have an opportunity like that, regardless
if it was that night or another time. I feel
like eventually you were going to have an opportunity like that,
(43:33):
if it was that time or another time, but you
were ready for it. And I think because some people go, man,
how lucky was that? I mean, lucky would be if
I'd never done it yep, and never prepared for it
and then kind of killed it out of nowhere. But
it wasn't lucky that I had spent freaking ten years
doing every small, stupid red carpet job, every prompter job,
begging to be on dog network, and then it happened.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
I'll say that experience for me totally changed phrasing that
comes out of my mouth. I used to say things
like right place, right time. I used to say that
all the time. It just rolls off the tongue, sounds good.
It's kind of a catch all. I never say it anymore.
Right place, right times. If you win the lottery, right place,
right time, that's pure luck. If someone's achieving something professionally,
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the much greater likelihood is they put themselves in the
right place for an extended period of time and then
the right time finally found them. That's the plus side
of that equation. The downside, the flip side of the
coin is wrong place, wrong time works the exact same way.
If you traffic in bad habits for long enough, then
the wrong time will eventually find you. If you surround
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yourself with the wrong people frequently enough, the wrong time
will eventually find you. And I used to not think
like that. I used to think, oh, it's just a
perfect confluence of events. Sometimes, yes, far more.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Often no, Yeah, I've on this show, You've been had
people on and I will argue the concept of luck
and it's the most boring thing you've ever heard.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
In your life.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
And everyone starts to roll their eyes, and then I go, well,
you can't really define what luck is until someone dies,
because one thing can lead into another and by and
it's just terrible. It's like the worst content you could
ever imagine. But I like you treated differently, and it
was going to happen for me eventually anyway, because I
was ready for it, same with you. You were ready
for it. It just happened to be that morning. How crazy
of a story, though, that's an awesome story.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
I will say one thing about luck if I was
the person I am, but I was born in nineteen
seventy three, because of the difference in the media landscape
versus what it ended up being. To me, that's maybe
a little bit of luck, because that's not a controllable
of mine. That's if I were if any of us
were born in thirteen eighty two, you know, for example,
(45:45):
like you were very blessed to be born to who
you are, where you are when you are, or I
am at least because those things are out of my control.
Some of the other stuff that's in my control. You're right,
I don't want to really view that so much as luck.
If you catch a good break, like thankful for it,
but also understand it's not a coincidence when you look
around in your life and some people seem to catch
(46:05):
a lot of lucky breaks and other people seem to always,
quote unquote, be unlucky.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
You're talking like Bill Gates was just happened to be
around the computer that was within three hundred, right. So
with me, I started very young, and people would give
me the credit of being Wow, this guy's way. Hey.
I was podcasting in two thousand and five, and I
was dedicated to it. But it wasn't that I was
so much smarter. I was just living my life. I
was young, and so that's what we did. We listen
(46:32):
to podcasts. I was doing podcasts, and they'd be like,
this guy is doing things nobody else does. No, No,
I just happened to be born at the right time,
So I can give you that. But i'd a rock
in thirteen hundreds. I'm not gonna lie to you. Yeah. No, yeah,
for sure. And if there's an apocalypse, now find me.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
I think we'd be a pretty good team.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
You think, so.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
I'm gonna rule, but you can be my guy. You
take care of that.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
We'll figure that out.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
He's the muscle.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Is a lot more time for softball, not much else
to do.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
I do congratulations on the ESPN show. Thank you, I
appreciate it. That's so cool. So you're going to campuses?
Is that going to be game days or you go?
Guys going in.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
They gave us full selection, so we get to go
wherever we want. I would suppose sometimes that'll be where
game day is, other times will be where they aren't.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
Oh, I guess, I mean, is it going to be
actual just on game day? Or do you go in
the day before, gotcha?
Speaker 2 (47:29):
Yeah, all right, So what we'll do is we'll have
a show there on ESPN on Friday, and the show
will eminate live from whatever campus we're on Friday. From
that point, I'm always going to be at a game Saturday,
so I may stay at that campus where we are
if it's like a noon kickoff the next day, I'll
do this a lot, like I'll do the noon game
(47:50):
and then I'll go somewhere else for the primetime kickoff,
which is absolute dream scenario for someone who grew up
loving college football. So but yeah, we're going to be
at a game and the Friday show will be live
at campus of one of the big games in the country.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
Was there a debate on whose name got to go
first busting or pay because I'd have gone Payton bussing,
But that's that's me.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
I think names are overrated in this sense, and like,
so we didn't argue at all about it all. Here's
what was funny. We were on a meeting Will Taylor
myself or on a meeting with ESPN one morning and
news leaks about the show coming out. We have no
idea what the show is because we're on a meeting
trying to figure out the name of the show, and
(48:28):
so like we're looking at Front Off. I think it
was Front Office Sports or OutKick that leaked the story,
and Lwan like his his instinct is I'm gonna retweet
it and said, that's cool. What's the name of the show,
because we didn't know.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
And so we're starting to figure it out. That was
where a lot of suggestions came in. That funny so
it's busting and pay on campus. So so it's called
on campus with bus busting and paid on campus three times. Okay,
I'll get your sticker busting and pay on campus and
you're gonna be doing the show. I was on Friday,
and you're going to stay out on Saturdays. Let's see
(49:02):
your stuff. I have a story about each of those guys.
I don't know Taylor at all, Lawan, but I forgive me.
I was landing back at the private airport and I
gave the I was like, hey, I'm here to pick
up my car, and so they bring it to you,
and so I got in and I had a rental
because somebody had hit me in my car, and so
(49:24):
I got in and I drove. I don't know third
of the way home and I realized, same kind of car.
This ain't my car. There was just like something weird
in the middle. And then I realized the cup holders
weren't the same because the rental they gave me wasn't
the car that I'm used to. But I had it
for like a week and it was a I don't want,
Doc Taylor. It was a big black Suv YEP, and
(49:45):
so I turned around, I drive it back and said,
this is not mine. They're like, oh yeah, sorry about that,
and they go and they bring another one up. I
was driving the one's suv home.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
No.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
The first thing that stands out to me about this
is that's a former NFL left tackle. The proportions of
the seat configuration alone very long.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
Guy, what do you want? I just want to.
Speaker 4 (50:05):
One of the guy that drove it to Bobby was
probably normal.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
Probably so I like the first one.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
I went to the doctor and uh six foot one recently, boy, absolutely,
thank you, So.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
You will do okay in the thirteen hundreds.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
What I'm saying. The other one is I have met Will.
We were at the Super Bowl and I was playing
with one of the barstool teams in the trivia, you know,
they do trivia, And I was on Brandon Walker's team
and that's the only time I've met well. And he
was extremely nice. Who knew he was like the kindest guy.
He came up and we were talking about we just
had the bad weather here that we had to live
(50:41):
in this place. It was so bad storm, yes, and
we were talking about, you know how it just had
destroyed where we live. And he was really really nice.
So I stole Lawan's car, but Compton was extremely nice
to me. That's my two stories.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Actually a pretty deep catalog of stories right out of
the pocket. You can relate to this, all right. I've
done solo stuff pretty much my whole media career. I
prefer it that way. It just far less things can
go wrong out of your control if you do solo.
So like I always wondered, okay, what would that ensemble
dynamic be like? Though, here's the problem, all right, And
(51:16):
this is what local news taught me. Sometimes you have
great on air chemistry with people you don't really like
all that much, and you have terrible on air chemistry
with people you do like. And it makes no sense
to someone who's never done this for a living. Because
you would think, oh, your buddies, that's who you'd get
along with on air. And I had both of those
cases happen. So I thought to myself, Man, what a
(51:36):
shame if I ever tried it out and I found
people who I clicked with, but I didn't like them
all that much. So I start doing stuff with those
guys just last year is really when I started doing
stuff with them. In first fifteen minutes of first show
that you do, you realize I like them a lot,
and Wow, there's a lot of synergy here, Like it's
just flowing. You can't create that in a lab. You either
(51:57):
got it with someone or you don't. The first show,
like we realized we got to put a protective fence
around this, Like we got to make sure this concept
right here because we all feel it, We all like it.
You want to have synergy with the people you like,
and if you can ever find that, those are the
ones you want to build franchises out of. And we're
two years into doing a little bit of that now.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
And also reading between the lines, you told me that
Will and La want hate each other. That's what I
got for it.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
At least I'm there, Yes yes to keep it together.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
Thanks for coming in. I love to hear your story.
I like for you to share it every so often,
especially with people that are watching and listening to me,
because it is you knew what you wanted, you sacrificed
to get there. You didn't have it easy even while
you were getting there, you made difficult decisions and you
got there, and so I like the story that resonates
(52:45):
with me. I feel like a lot of people that
listen to me and watch this stuff like they feel
that too. So thanks for sharing that. That's why I
kind of wanted to talk to you before, because you're
the kid with a swimming pool that in the summer
everybody wants to be friends with the kid that has
from the pool.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
Man, I knew those kids.
Speaker 1 (53:02):
Yeah, and in college football time, you can't get you
because everybody everybody wants you. So it's before I when
I messaged you, I was like, let's go before you,
before this phone poll opens, Let's get Josh in. So
I really appreciate you coming in. I'm rooting for you
because of what you come from and what you stand for.
And yeah, I hope to show on the field with
(53:22):
Peter and Bussy. Who does really.
Speaker 2 (53:24):
Great verbatim that I appreciate it, but you're killing it.
I'm a whole set up here, love it. I appreciate
you having me over.
Speaker 1 (53:30):
Thanks.
Speaker 5 (53:31):
There is the great Josh pat Love this episode of
The Bobby Cast. Subscribe on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, or wherever
you listen to podcasts.
All right, So on today's episode, we're going to talk
storm chasing, We're going to talk greatest college towns. We'll
talk a little college football. We have Josh pat here,
who is the college football guy. Unless you're Brandon Walker
watching this now, he's still the college guy. Yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah. So first I wanted to talk about the
best college towns in America without giving you the list.
(00:34):
And you've been I think practically to all the good ones.
What comes to my top college towns?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Athens, Georgia. I love State College, Pennsylvania. Now is this
a list like a ranking?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I'm trying to guess, or is it my I want
just yours because you've been a lot of places.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I have a list, but I don't want you to
see the list before I go. Here are yours, and
we give ours?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Okay. I love Athens. I think if I were to
have to take someone from another country who wants to
see a college town on a game day, I would
take them to Athens, Georgia. I think that's pretty quintessential. Now,
you may hate Georgia, like you're a Florida fan or something,
but I don't think if you could divorce yourself from
that you could deny just the vibe of Athens. Knoxville's
a bigger town, but I still think it is a really,
(01:18):
really good college town if you're in the right spots.
Tuscaloosa can be like that. I just mentioned State College,
so Penn State. I was just up there this week,
so kind of recency biased. Too cold, though not in
August fair enough, So make sure you go up there
with me early in the season. Have you been to Eugene,
have you been to Oregon? Yes, so I think it's
(01:41):
good for me, but I'm from the South. If I
take some of my Southern buddies up there, it's really
hit or miss, like they either kind of can get
with that or they can't get with that. So that's
kind of a conditional college town.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
So isolated. It is like I can find a reason
to say everything is bad except Fanville. So just know
that I'll find a reason to hate on everything. And
Eugene's awesome. It's just so hard to get to if
you're just going there for that.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah, you're either southwest probably two stops to Eugene, or
you're probably Portland and then an hour and a half
down the coast and you're not really driving on the coast,
so you don't get the scenery. I don't know. I
like Eugene, Okay. The one that I haven't been to enough.
I've only been to a game there once is Oxford.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Oh this hurts. It's great.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
You It feels like though, if you ever walk into
like a Louis Bitton store or one of these luxury
brand stores, how they look at you when you walk in,
they kind of want to make you feel less than
just to see if you're worthy. That's kind of what
it feels like when you go and you're the opposing team,
because you go out in the grove and everybody's fancy.
It's like they wear two collars on their shirts that type. Yeah, yeah,
(02:44):
not toy one collar, they're wearing two. Or they're wearing
the flip up you know how we used to do
back in the day. So it's great though. So Oxford
is fantastic because it's all built in. You did not
mention Feteville, So I'd like to hear. Have you been
to Fable, Arkansas?
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, I like it. Very underrated, very underrated airport. By
the way. Yeah, you gotta drive twenty minutes kind of
ou in the middle of nowhere. But I remember, I
remember X and A because we're right next to BNA.
That's just a place where if I were to circle
two of them, South Carolina and Arkansas is a place
where if I could just snap my fingers in like
a couple of places or better perennially at football, those
(03:21):
would be the two, because I actually I would. Arkansas
is one of my favorite places to go. I got
to get storry about in a second, which I may
have told you just about losing my vision up there
because of the moonshine over not moonshine, something even more
dangerous cold brew consumed in large quantities. I wish they
were good. I know you're trying, like I know you're
doing everything in your power. I wish that I had
(03:44):
more reasons to go up to Arkansas. People will say
all the time, why don't you come up here enough?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Hey, you suck.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
We're going to the biggest games in the country every Saturday.
The last one I could go to is when you
guys played Cincinnati to open the season a few years ago.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah, yeah, it hurts. We bought a house right next
to the football stadium, but we bought it. You know,
the market goes Mark goes down. I feel like we
got a better deal in the house because we suck
right now, which.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
I guess is one ray of sunshine. That's one way
to look at it. As at least it moves the
needle in one direction.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
People park in your yard like game day.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Well, we haven't lived there during a game a season yet.
Well I know, dude, there's the money to be made,
but twenty bucks a car, But what do I care?
I don't want to be parking in my yarda ugh,
I would put And it doesn't really count because the
city is so great. It just happens to have a
college there, Austin Austin.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I wasn't going to go.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
It's got a million residents. I know, it doesn't I
hate the Longhorns, hate with every part of me, and
I live with Longhorns and have friends that coach Longhorns.
Growing up in Arkansas, we hate Texas. But Austin is
freaking awesome. But it's not a college town. It's a
city that has a college in it.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Do you have any familiarity with Texas Tech?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Meaning I know they head football coach.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
But do you know like, have you've been out there
in the lubb.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
It but I haven't really experienced their island of Texas
technis good.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Way to put it. You haven't been to the island
of Texas Technas.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
So I've played a show. I did stand up out
there at theater, but I didn't really get to experience
the Texas technis.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
That is one I would describe that, even more so
than maybe how we describe Eugene of like people think Texas.
If you're from Michigan and you've never been there, you think, oh,
Texas is Texas. Austin and Lubbock are like Jupiter and Mars.
They're like different planets. Culturally they could not be any
more different. So that's another one. Like Lubbock, I love
it because it reminds me a little bit of sort
(05:32):
of the environment I grew up in rural Georgia. So
you go out there, everyone's sleeves are rolled up, just
literally and figuratively. It's kind of like an US against
the World mentality. You feel like you're on the moon.
It's six hours from the next biggest town, and if
you're about that, it's awesome. If you're not about that,
it's like, man, how soon can I get out of here?
Since I'm about it? I love it. I took Savannah
(05:53):
and my wife out there, and she had never been
pretty much west of Dallas in the state of Texas before,
and we took her out there this past year. They
played Brigham Young game days there, like it's a huge day,
so we'll go see Joey. We'll go out there the
day before and I had her spend the forty eight hours.
She couldn't shut up about it. She still hasn't shut
up about it. We've gone out there again since then.
(06:15):
And I think that's one that's a little off people's
radars where if you just popped, hey, what do you
think about Lubbock, Texas on them, it would kind of
catch them off guard. It's like a little fist to
the chin in the college town conversation that they don't
see coming. But you go out there, man, it's a
different world. You may not like it, but you may
also love it. I love it.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Could you just reveal bias that you are from Georgia
and you just picked Georgia as your number one team? Like,
I know where you're from. I was just gonna let
that slide but I can't address it and said you
didn't say it.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Well, you can say I'm from Georgia. What I'm more
interested in is Georgia being my number one team, because
I said Athens was my number one town.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, I'm saying college towns though. Yeah, they said there's
some bias there.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
There is. I don't know. Yes, you could say that,
and I can't convince you of a counterfactual. I think
I would say Athens if I were from you know,
like Wichita Falls. I think Athens. If I'm going to
list you the things I look for in college town,
I'll tell you one thing that's underrated. A little bit
of terrain being baked in, like if it's not just flat.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
We went to Provo Eddie and I did a shoot
with BYU. Yeah, what a freaking city.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
I've only flown over it.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
You're on the field, And when you say terrain, that's
what it triggered, YEP, is that it's surrounded by snowcap mountains.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
It's like a screensaver basically.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah, and whatever they had Mormon's name is, he's up
on the top of it doing this, and so you're
just like, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
That's great. So they played Notre Dame there this year, obviously,
and that's the one where I'm looking at the few
places I've never been. I've never seen a game at
Brigham Young. I've never been to Provo. Maybe that's my shot,
but I don't have it off the top of my head.
But that's that Saturday. There are really two of them
this year. They're just cram packed, and that's one of
those Saturdays where you've got half a dozen games that
(07:55):
may qualify as the biggest game on any given other Saturday.
So crossed we can get out there.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I don't know, I have guilt about our Provo trip
because we go and we're hanging out. Everybody's so nice
to us, you know, the coach is awesome, and we're
going to go and work out with some of the
players and they're like, what jerseys do you want? And Eddie,
what number did you get?
Speaker 4 (08:14):
I don't remember, like seventeen or something.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Now I remember remember where at b Yu. Huh what
number should I not ask for?
Speaker 5 (08:21):
Well?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I wouldn't ask for Jim at Mann's number.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Let's think you're twelve years old. Immature more than that, Like,
what's the most immature number you could possibly ask for
that you shouldn't ask for at a school that's.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Built on sounds like an offensive lineman number. Yeah, probably
in the upper sixties. Yeah, and everyone rolls their eyes
and you did.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
It like an idiot. And I regret it. And I
don't regret anything in my life. I've learned from many mistakes.
But once I started looking at pictures and the video
of it, I hated me because I wore the number
sixty nine at BYU. It was just bad. It is bad.
I don't like me for that, and so that's my regret.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I'm gonna give a pregnant pause to let it sizzle.
So you are what age right now?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Forty six?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
You are a forty six year old successful man. And
if you're speaking to a college class right now and
someone raises their hand, mister bones, excuse me, mister bones.
What is your biggest regret in life? You're gonna go, well, Chad.
I went to Provo one time and they asked me
what jersey I want and I went sixty.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Nine, Chad.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Other than that has been a pretty good life, brother.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
That's it. That's the answer. Yeah, it used to be
when I got fined a million bucks by the FCC.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
That's distant memory.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
That's too. Number one is picking number sixty nine at
a religious school because it was stupid. It was so stupid.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
They're so nice over there that I don't even think
they realized what he did.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Oh that's a good theory.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I think that's interesting.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Great number.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
You don't think they knew, They didn't know what that meant.
Hasn't got there? Yeah yeah, so I deeply regret.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Has it got there? As it got there? It has now.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I traveled through the top five from Business Insider, are
at number five, Tallahassee, Florida at Florida State.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
To do that, Wait, wait did they list the criteria
out of curious?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah they did, so these are the best college towns
where culture, lifestyle, local college economy, population, and they also
factor in how well known is the college. Right, So
at five was Florida State. Eddie and I played a
concert in Florida State in the in the football stadium
and before you go, wow, that's cool, they had the
(10:32):
stage facing like only the end zone. Yes we really playing,
Yeah yeah, we played toward the We don't say that details.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
That's all it counts.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
It's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
And that same time I try to sneak into a
frat party that night.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Oh my god, you did, dude, this might be worse
than sixty nine.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
They did not let me in continue that, and you
know what, it was parents weekend, So I thought I
had a chance, Like okay, and this was what how
many years?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
We got another dad over here? Seven or eight years ago?
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Years ago? So I'm like you, me and another buddy,
We're like, all right, let's see we can get in
and they're like, no.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Getting in here?
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Like all right?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
At number four, Gainesville, Florida, No problem with that. It's
because they haven't been good though in a while, like
consistently good. That didn't it didn't factor into yours, all right?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Uh No, it's I just didn't do a comprehensive list. Gainesville.
I would have eventually gotten to Auburn, Alabama really good one.
Auburn's excellent. I actually Auburn would be way up there,
possibly top five. I like, going, is Auburn on there? No?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Not in the top ten to me, I don't.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Know how this is no shot at FSU. The way
I would list the criteria for great college town, I
have no idea how Tallahassee Florida is above like Auburn
or Athens. I grew up within close proximity to those.
You could say that's biased, that's fine, but like those
two places are pretty awesome to me.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
That frat party looked awesome.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Dude, from the door, it looks you know what the
best part about going to Auburn was there's a gas
station near the university where you take your stuff and
you just put it on the counter and automatically reads
the price. That was Tallahassee. No, that was Auburn. It
was Yeah, it was Auburn because that's where the Charles
Barkley statue is. OK, and of everything that we did,
because we went in played ball there and shot some stuff,
(12:16):
and they had a gas station that that knew the
price of a banana by just me putting it on
the counter.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I don't even know about that place. And I'm from there.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Oh yeah, I'll give you. I'll give you a detail.
So Number three Charlottesville, Virginia, University of Virginia, never been
it's it's so clean.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, it sounds clean.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
It's so clean. Number two is Arizona State Tempa Arizona.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Love it, yeah, love it.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
We went to Arizona State.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
We went to Arizonazona.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, that's a different vibe. Yeah, the Arizona vibe is
different than Arizona State vibe.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Do you mean like maybe one's a little little dirtier, grittier,
and the other one's a little.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
More Arizona stream, more maserati. Yeah, Arizona straight Corolla.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
We were late. Yeah, fair enough, say no more.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Yeah, I had number one. I've never been here An Arbor,
Michigan University of Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, it's different in a sense that they are good.
They know they're good. They make no apologies about acknowledging
that they're good. But if that's okay with you, it's
a little more sweater vest crowd, then maybe I'm used
to growing up in the South. It is a quintessential
college town experience. Though, they are right about that. That's
a good one. I probably wouldn't have rattled that one
(13:28):
off because I've gone for the Ohio State game, so
I've just been totally zoned in on the game when
I've been there. That is a good one.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Though, have you ever seen him at he hit US
soft ball?
Speaker 4 (13:38):
I would imagine he just smacks the crap out of it.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
It's crazy, like he's jackshit. He obviously works out and
takes care of his body, and like I respect that.
And still though it's different the physiology to hit a
softball than it is just a bench press a lot,
it's unreal. He does the thing where he walks up
and swings and walks back to the dugout. It's just
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a safe time. What do you mean of all the
content he does? And I'm a fan of Josh because
he created his own lane. Like to me, I'm a
massive do your own thing if you can, even if
you can't, like figure out how to patch it together
and make it work. Like to me, that's the Josh
paid story is like he did it himself. But the
second thing is he hits a softball a mile And
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when he posts content, that's my favorite thing.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah, and you do a lot of great but it's
when he posts on story he'll be like yeah, like
he'll put a ball with like a rocket on it.
He'll just walk up gone, he walks right back to
the dugout. So wow, how does that feel to just
be an athletic monster out on that field?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Okay, well, conditionally, now like we are talking about Smirnit
Tennessee on a Friday night.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
That ball goes out anywhere. The balls I see you hit,
they go out it in any park.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
It's fun. I love hitting, like hitting athletically, whether it's
baseball or softball. Outside of working out, That's always been
my favorite thing I play. I didn't play basketball, but
I've played most of the other sports growing up. I
played basketball growing up, but I just didn't like it.
But of all the things that you could do repetitively
in sports, hitting like when you hit good, it's a
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really really good feeling. Love it.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Will you be able to send us a video because
when we clip this, I want to make sure we
have a video of you launching a ball.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I think I can round one up.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Dude, you've seen athletic feats until you've seen Josh Payton
Smart of Tennessee on a Wednesday night six thirty game.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Hey whatever, now whatever, this.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Is the league you're in, that you're in a softball.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I love it. I do some absurd things that end
up costing a lot of money logistically of travel wise,
so I could play in that Friday night league. I
love playing softball.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Do you ever not hit a home run?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Oh yeah, plenty of times. Three home run limit per game.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Do you get all three though?
Speaker 3 (15:51):
On your team, I'd say most of the time, if
someone's gonna hit three, yeah, not all the time though,
Like I mean, I'm not the only one on the
team who could hit one out. Oh but you're by
the guy that hit the farthest right when you count,
the same goes in the crew one with a shot.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Okay, this is a philosophy. Yeah, one time, long time ago,
when I had stopped playing baseball and I started playing softball.
They're all kind of unwritten rules and float pitch softball.
Anyone who's played the game for any length of time
knows that if you're playing in a certain caliber of
that sport, like travel ball, it's all former minor league
baseball players, you can hit the ball up the middle.
You can do whatever you want to if it's a
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if it's a caliber below that, guys who are playing
for fun church league, they're doing it one night a week.
Like there are people well over fifty years old in
some cases on these fields don't be hitting the ball
up the middle. I didn't know that, so I hit
a guy in the net, like just next to his
throat one time. I knew him. He's like a friend
of mine. And he fell and it makes that like
a kind of a smack sound against his neck, and
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I was terrified. Fortunately he didn't get hurt bad. But
if it hit him in like the esophagus, I have
no idea what would have happened. I have not hit
the ball up the middle again since then. That was
in know, maybe twenty ten. That's at least fifteen sixteen
years ago, so I don't but I see it happen.
We had a guy, I kid you not, man, this
is a serious story. I played with a buddy in
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a tournament Manchester, Georgia, and we're playing outfield and it's
we're in like our fifth game of the day and
he is playing left field. So guy hits a ball
and he's my buddy is going to get under this ball.
He's camped and he knows, all right, I'm good, I
can cut off sprinting. He turns around and he's kind
of like coasting in a backpedal, catches the ball, trips
(17:35):
over his foot a little bit, sling shots himself into
the fence. This field had like light poles built into
the fence, which is dangerous. His head just so happened
to hit one of those poles flush against the pole,
knocked unconscious. It had seizures right there on the field
in front of me. They had to land a life
(17:57):
flight helicopter on the field in Manchester, Yeah, and airlift
him down to Columbus, which is like forty five minutes
south of Manchester. I mean, he was never quite the
same again, gos like, he's terrifying. I'd never seen anything
like that happen before.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Were you a basher when you played baseball in high school?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
In my junior and senior year, I got to where
I could hit like that, but I never touched weights
until my sophomore year. So, I mean I first worked
out in tenth grade, and they had a rule. I
went to Harris County High School in west central Georgia.
There's a rule in there, which is probably a good rule,
that you can't be working out in the general population
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until you can bench, power clean, and squat one hundred
pounds each, like that's the minimum threshold. So I could
not power clean or bench one hundred pounds. So I
had to work out with the girls for a little
while in a separate workout group when you used to
still have co ed weight training. And then I finally
graduated up. So I started from whatever the bottom is.
(18:57):
I started below the bottom on strength raining. But then
I was like so underdeveloped that it was like leaps
and bounds. Once I finally learned to eat and lift
halfway properly, so like junior and senior year, Yeah, I could.
I just wish that I had been at a serious
place that made me work out, because unfortunately I was
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not then mentally like I am now. No one needs
to tell me to do it now. Back then you
had to drag me in the weight room and like
make me do it because I just didn't have the
mental discipline.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Edy, you'll be freaking out of your shoes when you
see him hit a ball. Wait to see you know,
I have all the things, and he's built his own empire.
It's hitting us off ball that I'm there.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
You go, hang tight.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
The Bobby Cast will be right back, and we're back
on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I do want to talk stormchasing for a second. Why
do you do that? Do you have a background in weather?
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah? My background is the year's nineteen ninety six twister
comes out the movie. Yes, I go to see the movie.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
I go to see it.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
That was awesome.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
And that's my background.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
See just what fascinated two things?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
All right? So Twister came out in ninety six. I
was a kid. I think that in Titanic and weirdly
a Denzel Washington movie called Deja Vu. Those are the
only movies I saw in theaters three times. So that's
how fascinated I was by Twister. Also, I only watched
Sports Center in the Weather Channel at my MEMM's house
growing up. That's how I learned my geography. That's how
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I learned my stats. That's how I learned everything that
I knew about the world was Sports Center and the
Weather Channel. And then when Twister came out, like I
was gobsmacked by it because I'm in that really really adventurous,
nothing's impossible sort of stage of childhood. And then I
found out I already have a fascination with atmospheric science
from watching Weather Channel all the time. There are people
who do this recreationally, like there are people who go
(20:48):
out and do that. Maybe one day you can even
make money on it. Then you fast forward all these
years later and it's a whole industry. It's an industry
of content creation, but it's also an industry of You
could be out there for scientific reasons, you could be
working on government grant money. But there are people out
in the field now. And the best way I can
describe it for the ninety nine percent of people watching
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this who smartly will never put themselves in close proximity
to a tornado is if you picture the adrenaline mixture
of like being at the very top of a roller
coaster as it starts to go down, and if you
mix that with sex, and if you mix that with
being in a haunted house right as someone jumps out
(21:32):
to scare you. If you mix those three feelings, that's
what stormchasing feels like. In the peak moments. That's what
it feels like. It's unbelievable. It's not for everyone. It's
for almost no one. But if you're like a little
twisted and it doesn't like that meter that's supposed to
go off inside of you that says don't do that
doesn't exist, and it doesn't exist in me, it's incredible.
(21:56):
There's nothing else like it. I do it every spring.
That's why I cover college football for a living.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
You had one turn on you and come back at you.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah. March third, twenty nineteen, we were done in Beauregard, Alabama.
Twenty three people ended up dying within a quarter mile
radius of where we were. And it's a big EF
four tornado. This is near Auburn. Actually it's between Auburn
and Columbus. We were having to do what is called
core punching, which is where you're not where you're supposed
to be, so you're having to attack the thing from
(22:23):
the north. Normally, when you're attacking tornadic supercell from the north,
you got to go through a hail core. In a
big rain core, you want to be south of it.
It's clear, normally you can see things from the south
of it, and so we thought we'd have time to
core punch it. But it's moving northeast about sixty miles
an hour. We're going south, you know, so it's coming
this way, and I realized we don't have time, but
I realized really late. So we you turn it right
(22:46):
as that thing crosses in front of where we would
have been, and then we were the first ones to
come in on the back side of it. Destruction like
I had never seen before. You had fatalities. First responders
aren't there yet. This is like the most most terrible
environment imaginable.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
How close were you to doing that instead of doing
college football?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I'm still close now to doing it.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
No, but now you've built you're a college football guy.
But to be in camp toward junior how close were
you to doing that?
Speaker 2 (23:15):
No, I'm still close. Now you're doing it. I'm dead serious.
I mean, you and I are. So just think about this, Okay,
if you and I were talking in nineteen ninety six, Yeah,
you pretty much have to exist in a lane, just
the way that's the way the media industry, the entertainment
industry worked twenty twenty six. You just don't have to
think like that. So, yes, college football will always be
(23:36):
the core of what I do. But if you start
to be successful there, and then your company starts to
scale and you got all kinds of different opportunities and
financially you're not nearly as strapped as you used to be,
there's room to pursue all kinds of different projects. That's
always been one that's been right there on the shelf.
I've had the concept. I've just been waiting to be
able to BANKRLL it because I don't really like borrowing
(23:57):
money from people, so I've been waiting until I can,
and we can do it now. I mean truthfully, I
tell you this because I know we're doing it, because
we've already been like six months down the road on it.
So it's not necessarily maybe something i'd be the face of,
like I'm built for college football, but I think there's
a huge, huge, untapped market still for what we're talking
about out there.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
What did you think of the sequel?
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Is that Twisters?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
It is good? Good title, too obvious, very good, very
good title. Yeah, I thought it was good for what
it was. I thought that it was such a missed
opportunity to not have more callback to the first Twister,
Like there's so many layups. The last scene in Twister,
the original spoiler alert spoiler very important spoiler alert. As
(24:47):
we as we come up on the thirtieth anniversary important
spoiler alert.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
It's Bill and just Helen Hunt and Bill Paxton. They
get back together.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
They're they're probably getting covered in rass sewage. Something's raining
down on them, some kind of pie his burst and
then credit troll and we don't know what happens after that.
It would have been so easy thirty years later to
just incorporate the concept that maybe they had kids, maybe
they ended up together. Because the unfortunate part was by
the time Twisters comes out, Bill Paxton has passed away,
(25:16):
Philip Seymour Hoffman has passed away. Like there were central
figures of the original movie. You can't incorporate anymore, but
you can instill. You can still incorporate themes from it,
and they didn't. So it was a good movie. I
just thought there was so much left on the table,
which so they're not related, they're not really.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
No, Like if you saw the Tornado though, was the
son of the Tornado from Twitter that you need me
to lead you there? If you just wipe through the credit,
you would have seen that you saw the old Tornado
talking to the young Tornado, like, yeah, you made me proud.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yes, maybe that's what we cover in Twisters is maybe
that's what they cover.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Hey, Loki, Helen Hunt, underrated babe of back in our Day.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Let's talk about it. I just watched What Women Want
the other night. I think there's a conversation to be had.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
I think that she doesn't get the credit she deserves.
Even I have to be reminded of it, but she
was for a teenage kid who like to be alone.
She was awesome, like even mad about you. Yeah yeah,
so I mean, Paul Riser Man, what, I don't have
anything in my eye.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
There's a conversation to be had, I think because this
as a kid, this is how I viewed Helen Hunt.
There I would watch if I watched National Lampoon's Vacation
and I see Christy Brinkley, that is not obtainable. Obviously
I'm a kid and she's a full grown adult. But
I think to myself, no, people like me don't grow
(26:44):
up to marry people like Christy Brinkley. Helen Hunt had
an obtainability about her.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
It's like she lives next door.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yes, possible, Gilligan's Island.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Maybe maybe it's like you could conceptualize it.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
At least it's it's the Gilligan's Island. It's why people
because there was marionn Yeah, skipper too, this conversation with
a skipper. You can have a skipper, but you know,
the girl next door was the one that most people
like related to. I just searched underrated babes in the nineties.
Come on, Parker Posey oh yeah, I think so.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Yeah, dayson confused come on?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
And also she was not nineties but white lotus as
an older lady. Yeah, still had the.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Yeah still hot. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Well I didn't say that what I wanted. I didn't
want to say that, but I still had.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
You know.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Also Robin Tunney.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
I don't know that is.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Remind me who that is?
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, no, same, let's google immager.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Not a good idea. Not a good day for Robin.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I know she's watching, Okay, I remember do you remember
Robin Tunny?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Oh yeah, I would have known the face a lot
of these I'll know the face of I may not.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
What was she on Robin Tunny? You would know her
from things such as Empire Records and Sino Man. I
think she was the main girl in in Sino Man. Yeah,
musically Fiona Apple Ah, she was the man talk about
strung out hot is what kind of that? And then
she was always too A lot going on? What was
(28:19):
going on in her head?
Speaker 2 (28:20):
A lot going on?
Speaker 1 (28:22):
And then another one was I don't know who this is.
Carrie wore her she's from Anaconda and Sliders. I gotta
look her up.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Ka r I she took a back seat if she
was in anaconda. W h why, I mean, that's the
snake nearly peaked j Lo. That's post Selena j Loo.
That's Jlo when she she's rolling at that point.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Ever, was a Jlo guy.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
I didn't say you couldn't hit mute. I didn't say
you had to consume the film a certain way. And granted,
the snake did a great job in the movie, but
I thought jo.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
The snake was an oscar that went to lead actor
would be the snake in your story. To me is
extremely inspiring because of kind of how it started. Let's
act like I don't know it. How did this Josh
Pate get to because you're just big and famous now,
but you weren't. You were just working local.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Right before media, I was just working in warehouses and
construction sites. Because I came out of high school. I
was like a tweener where you don't grow up broke,
but you're closer to broke than wealthy, because when we
couldn't even spell wealthy. But you're not growing up in
your back against the wall. You're not some impoverished kid
(29:39):
who knows I got to make it or my family
screwed it. Wasn't quite like that, so I didn't really
know what I wanted to do. When I graduated high
school in Georgia, they have the lottery thing, the Hope Scholarship.
If you have a B average, you get a couple
of semesters paid for. So I did that, ended up
dropping out of school because I had no direction. I
had no idea what I wanted to do. I was
failing classes, so I just got in construction heating, in
(30:03):
air installation. I was working in a fabric warehouse for
several years, and I was just listening to sports talk
radio every day. And I'm early twenties by that point,
approaching mid twenties, Like, still no idea what I want
to do, And I just remember so vividly. Nick Saban
got hired at Baman in O seven. He came to Columbus.
He spoke in Columbus, and I borrowed forty five dollars
(30:26):
so I didn't have any money to go. And he
spoke that night about some stuff that wasn't revolutionary. Like
clearly the message had been disseminated before Sabin said it
that night, but I had never had it click with me,
the idea of how to properly set goals, how to
put the goals to decide, how to engage in process
oriented thinking, how to inventory your time and convert time
(30:48):
spent into time invested. I'm just like mind blown. It's
just a higher level of thinking that I never knew existed.
So I knew, Man, you got to either make a decision.
It's the Tracy Chapman kind of lyrically like, we got
to make a decison or live and die this way. That's
kind of how it was. And so your mid twenties,
you realize you're not a kid anymore. You look around
and there's so many people if you grow up in
(31:09):
a small town anywhere in this country, there's so many
people who have never left. And there's not anything wrong
with that, but you can kind of sense like an
aura of what could have been, maybe even an aura
of regret. And you know you're about to become another
one of those. And so I got my act together,
and I know I've got talent to do something. And
(31:30):
I know I love sports talk radio, I love sports media.
I consume college football year round. I love it. I'm
immersed in it. Could I ever do this for a living?
So I'm just like beaten down the door of the
local radio affiliate, the ESPN radio affiliate in Columbus. It
was WIOL fifteen eighty the zone in Columbus. So the
program director just let me come in to observe, which
(31:52):
is all I wanted to do. Truthfully, I was not
begging to be put on air at all. I wanted
to come in and like, if I could sit in
the corner and here right now and observe pre deduction happening.
I'd never seen it before, so I went in there.
I did that for like a month or two. Maybe.
One morning it's during football season. His co host calls in,
can't make it in. It's like five minutes to airtime.
Last minute, I'm out, So he has no time for
(32:15):
a backup plan, and he just threw me on area said,
do you want to hop on air today?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
That's the fantasy. It's awesome. I didn't know how awesome
it was that day, but you were terrified of that.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
I really wasn't no time. If he would have given
me a day, I would have been terrified.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
He gave me five minutes.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
So I do the show. It's awesome, man. It's afternoon
drive caller based radio in the South during football season.
It's a layup. It's like it's easy, and it was
so natural. So after we got done with the show,
he because the program director was also the host of
the show, he asked, where have you worked before? So
I'd never worked before, But he thought I was lying
when I said I'd never worked anywhere before. Because if
(32:52):
you go back to the Sabans thing from a few
years earlier, Saban talked about defining your goals and then
converting some of the time you're spending aka waste during
your day to time invested, so repurpose that time to
align with your goal. My goal was I wanted to
do this for a living. I realized, I'm driving around
in my truck sixty to ninety minutes per day just
listening to music, which is fine, but I'm not getting
(33:13):
anything out of that. How do I invest that time?
The way I invested it was I just simulated sports
talk radio. I would turn on Mike and Mike or
Colin Cowherd or someone, let them begin a segment, and
then hit mute and I'd pick it up where they
left off. Did it for a year and a half
to two years, not knowing that it was going to
lead to one day me just being thrown on air
(33:34):
like that was my big break. I didn't know what
it was coming. The morning I woke up, the dude
thought I had done it for a living because I
had gotten hundreds of hours of reps just doing it
my truck. So I never get taken off air, and
I do radio for a couple of years, then local
TV calls and I do local sports and doing my
own local college football show. That becomes being their news
(33:55):
anchor for a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
That's crazy. Yeah, you were the news anchor from sitting
in and just being able to hop on the air
right even that if the story ends right there, what
a story that is?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
That's what I said at the time of story.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
That you Yeah, you're the news anchor. Yeah, but you're
doing Did you like doing news? No?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
No, I didn't like doing news because it's it's news.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Was it going to raise from sports to the anchor though?
Is that why you took the job?
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Yeah? I think I went from I went from twenty
seven thousand dollars a year twenty four thousand dollars a
year to thirty thousand dollars a year to anchor news,
which if you're not making any money, is a lot
of money. But that's that's about eleven or twelve years ago.
That's where we are on the timeline right now, and
that's when it all started to happen, because that's when
podcasting is really starting to become a thing. That's when
(34:43):
Facebook Live becomes a thing. That's when YouTube live becomes
a thing. So, as you well know, if you were
in our industry up to that point, if you were
ever gonna do any kind of national anything, you had
to have massive overhead and distribution. You had to have
someone with the keys to really really fancy production facilities,
(35:05):
and you had to have a syndication.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Deal, yeah, the gatekeepers.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
You had to be on network like that was it.
And in my world of sports media, if you're not
from Syracuse J School or Northwestern Missouri, chances are you're
not going to make it. So to that point in time,
it just looked like a dead end to me. And
all of a sudden, then all those barriers just break down,
like Berlin Wall's coming down, and you realize, if YouTube
live is going to be a thing, that means distribution's
(35:31):
the Internet, and that means overheads in your hand, because
theoretically you could just go live from anywhere. So I
started doing a college football show. I would literally go
in the control room because it looks fancy after the newscasts,
and I would set up my phone, I would go
live and I would just start doing it in the
last for two weeks and management at the TV station said,
you can't do that. That's a brieki.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
You wagged a finger in the face.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
So I had to wait a whole year until my
contract was up, and they wanted to renew me and
bump me to thirty five per year, and I said, no,
not if I can't do this, because like, my future
clearly is not being a news anchor. My future is
doing this, and they thought I was bluffing. So he
get to the last day of my contract and they
called me news director and GM called me into the
office and said, are you going to sign the contract
(36:17):
or not. I was like, I already told you know,
and they said, but what are you going to do?
They thought I was going to a rival station, That's
what they thought. And I said, no, I told you
what I'm going to do. I'm going to start a
YouTube channel. And their first words to me were, but
what are you going to do for money? Because this
is twenty fifteen. No one's monetizing YouTube At that point.
It was a foreign concept, but you could tell it
(36:38):
was coming. I thought it was coming like it was
easy to see where the industry was going to go.
So we arrived in an agreement where I would stay
on to be their news anchor, but work as an
independent contractor making far less. But the trade off, which
was gold, was they'll give me the studio for three
nights per week to produce anything I want to out
of it on my channels.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
So we started doing the college football show and it
took a few years for us to grow it, but
then it really blew up. In twenty nineteen, Joe Burrow
in LSU season, it really blows up. CBS sees it
and calls me and they offered me a job. I
moved to Nashville right before twenty twenty. I start a
new channel from scratch, but under their umbrella, COVID sets
(37:21):
in world of sports go dark. Everybody who has a
sports show starts talking about things they have no business
talking about. I stuck to college football a bunch of
alienated audiences came to our show because we just talked
about college football. Shows scaled immediately. Executives come back to
work eight months later and realized, Wow, this show is
already making money. Don't touch it, leave it alone. So ironically,
(37:44):
because of COVID, we got to do the show the
way we wanted to, instead of having a lot of
corporate hands in the kitchen. And we proved the concept
really quickly, and I got a new contract one year in.
I got a new contract another year in after that,
and really it came time to negotiate ownership of IP,
ownership of assets because I knew, I mean, the show
(38:05):
is blown up. By twenty twenty three, it had already
since blown up. And I knew, if I go one
more contract, I'll make a lot of money, but I
will never own this. And I went back and forth
with CBS, because CBS offered me an astronomical amount of
money to just sign a five year deal, and I
said no, and I countered with a number that was
far less but also included ownership of my channels and
(38:28):
my feeds and my IP. And we went back and
forth for six months and it was no, no, no,
no no, And then it was Yes, they just caved
and I signed for another year with them that ended
in twenty twenty four, and I went out on my
own and now it's my everything. I own the production company,
we produced the show. And now you live in a
world where you do your show, you own it, you
(38:50):
sell it, you do everything that there is to do
with it, and then you just like if ESPN calls
and says we want to sign you to a talent deal,
you just go do a talent deal with them. It's
like the best of all worlds. But it took a
long time to get there.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
That three years where you're building and there's not a
lot of movement probably was exciting. Were there's stagnant moments
where you wondered if that was the right decision.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yes, I got evicted. I had no money. I was
beyond broke. I had no money because I had lowered
down to making because I was making like twenty four
when I started as as a sports anchor. I ended
up making less than that on the upgraded news anchor
independent contract deal. So I wasn't making YouTube revenue yet,
(39:35):
and so I'm making less than twenty five thousand dollars
and I'm trying to do odd jobs to just like
make ends meet, and they're not really meeting. And that's
you know, you say that really quick. It takes me
forty five seconds to say that. But that's a solid
three year chunk of your life where you've jumped out
of the plane and you're pulling the cord and the
parachute's not immediately coming open. You still got a little ways.
(39:56):
You still hope it'll open, but you don't know. I
just believed in the concept so much like I'm not
someone who constantly has the light bulb go off above
his head, so when it does happen, I pay attention
to it. And that's one of the moments where it happened.
It was just so clear to me, you're driving through
thick fog right now, but if you'll keep your foot
(40:16):
on the gas, it will clear up. And it eventually
cleared up, and you know, very similar to how I
told you that day at the radio station, happened where
you wake up that morning you have no clue. It's
one of the biggest days of your life. The day
that Shannon Terry called me, who was running twenty four
to seven Sports at the time, which was owned by
CBS the day he called me and offered me that job.
(40:37):
I had no idea that call was coming on that day.
It's like two or three of the biggest breaks in
my professional career have come on days I would have
least suspected anything big to happen that day.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
The Bobby Cast will be right back. Welcome back to
the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
It's funny when people talk about luck or even breaks,
and I think that's how we have to refer to them.
But when you talk about you getting hey, we got
to go on in five minutes, you were ready for that,
I think about I was working in a much lesser
capacity on American Idol. I was on every episode, but
I wasn't the host. Yep and Secrets was sick and
he's never been sick ever. And it were ten minutes
before going on in your live and they go, hey,
(41:17):
you have to fill in. And it wasn't nervous because
I didn't have time to be right. And then not
only that I had done so many freaking hours getting
ready that I wasn't. I never got nervous, like I
was built to do that. Afterward, I was like, oh
my god, can you After it was over, I think back,
and I just think, I'm so glad they didn't give
me a day to think ahead of time and to
(41:43):
try to plan what I was going to do and
say because again I had done all the reps, that
it was so natural that the only reason I didn't
ruin it is because I was going off of instinct
and repetition.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
That's why every great coach will always try and drilling you.
Just trust your preparation. Trust your preparation. If you're not prepared,
you got a whole different set of issues. If you're prepared,
the only thing they can get in your way is
what your mind tries to do to you. That's why
what you're talking about, what I'm talking about the sweet
spot is have it come out of nowhere, because if
(42:13):
you're prepared, it doesn't matter if it comes out of nowhere,
you'll handle it fine. And the same opportunity may be
presented to you a week earlier. You're still as prepared
in scenario B a scenario A, but in scenario B,
when you got a week to think about it, your
mind can mess you up, which is why the best
who are in the coaching capacity always tell you forget
about that just trust your preparation. Trust your preparation, because
(42:34):
I agree with you. When we were doing local news,
I will tell you the one thing I loved about
local news, which is otherwise so monotonous and boring to
me because you're reading a teleprompter all day. I loved
breaking news because then we got to ad lib, and
that's the only thing that was fun to me. Now,
if it's a story about like a triple homicide or something,
the story's not fun. But that's the only time I
(42:55):
felt alive. Otherwise I'm doing morning shifts. You gotta wake
up a three thirty in the morning to go into
on air at five. You're trying to keep yourself awake
during breaks. That's when I first started drinking coffee. I'd
never consumed it before. I only started drinking coffee because
it was on air every morning at five o'clock, not
doing something I necessarily love to do.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
I don't feel like you were lucky that morning, and I
don't feel like I was lucky that evening. I feel
like eventually our opportunity was going to hit us, and
it was when that opportunity met all the work that
we had put into it. I do feel like, eventually
I was going to have an opportunity like that, regardless
if it was that night or another time. I feel
like eventually you were going to have an opportunity like that,
(43:33):
if it was that time or another time, but you
were ready for it. And I think because some people go, man,
how lucky was that? I mean, lucky would be if
I'd never done it yep, and never prepared for it
and then kind of killed it out of nowhere. But
it wasn't lucky that I had spent freaking ten years
doing every small, stupid red carpet job, every prompter job,
begging to be on dog network, and then it happened.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
I'll say that experience for me totally changed phrasing that
comes out of my mouth. I used to say things
like right place, right time. I used to say that
all the time. It just rolls off the tongue, sounds good.
It's kind of a catch all. I never say it anymore.
Right place, right times. If you win the lottery, right place,
right time, that's pure luck. If someone's achieving something professionally,
(44:20):
the much greater likelihood is they put themselves in the
right place for an extended period of time and then
the right time finally found them. That's the plus side
of that equation. The downside, the flip side of the
coin is wrong place, wrong time works the exact same way.
If you traffic in bad habits for long enough, then
the wrong time will eventually find you. If you surround
(44:42):
yourself with the wrong people frequently enough, the wrong time
will eventually find you. And I used to not think
like that. I used to think, oh, it's just a
perfect confluence of events. Sometimes, yes, far more.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Often no, Yeah, I've on this show, You've been had
people on and I will argue the concept of luck
and it's the most boring thing you've ever heard.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
In your life.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
And everyone starts to roll their eyes, and then I go, well,
you can't really define what luck is until someone dies,
because one thing can lead into another and by and
it's just terrible. It's like the worst content you could
ever imagine. But I like you treated differently, and it
was going to happen for me eventually anyway, because I
was ready for it, same with you. You were ready
for it. It just happened to be that morning. How crazy
of a story, though, that's an awesome story.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
I will say one thing about luck if I was
the person I am, but I was born in nineteen
seventy three, because of the difference in the media landscape
versus what it ended up being. To me, that's maybe
a little bit of luck, because that's not a controllable
of mine. That's if I were if any of us
were born in thirteen eighty two, you know, for example,
(45:45):
like you were very blessed to be born to who
you are, where you are when you are, or I
am at least because those things are out of my control.
Some of the other stuff that's in my control. You're right,
I don't want to really view that so much as luck.
If you catch a good break, like thankful for it,
but also understand it's not a coincidence when you look
around in your life and some people seem to catch
(46:05):
a lot of lucky breaks and other people seem to always,
quote unquote, be unlucky.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
You're talking like Bill Gates was just happened to be
around the computer that was within three hundred, right. So
with me, I started very young, and people would give
me the credit of being Wow, this guy's way. Hey.
I was podcasting in two thousand and five, and I
was dedicated to it. But it wasn't that I was
so much smarter. I was just living my life. I
was young, and so that's what we did. We listen
(46:32):
to podcasts. I was doing podcasts, and they'd be like,
this guy is doing things nobody else does. No, No,
I just happened to be born at the right time,
So I can give you that. But i'd a rock
in thirteen hundreds. I'm not gonna lie to you. Yeah. No, yeah,
for sure. And if there's an apocalypse, now find me.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
I think we'd be a pretty good team.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
You think, so.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
I'm gonna rule, but you can be my guy. You
take care of that.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
We'll figure that out.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
He's the muscle.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Is a lot more time for softball, not much else
to do.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
I do congratulations on the ESPN show. Thank you, I
appreciate it. That's so cool. So you're going to campuses?
Is that going to be game days or you go?
Guys going in.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
They gave us full selection, so we get to go
wherever we want. I would suppose sometimes that'll be where
game day is, other times will be where they aren't.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
Oh, I guess, I mean, is it going to be
actual just on game day? Or do you go in
the day before, gotcha?
Speaker 2 (47:29):
Yeah, all right, So what we'll do is we'll have
a show there on ESPN on Friday, and the show
will eminate live from whatever campus we're on Friday. From
that point, I'm always going to be at a game Saturday,
so I may stay at that campus where we are
if it's like a noon kickoff the next day, I'll
do this a lot, like I'll do the noon game
(47:50):
and then I'll go somewhere else for the primetime kickoff,
which is absolute dream scenario for someone who grew up
loving college football. So but yeah, we're going to be
at a game and the Friday show will be live
at campus of one of the big games in the country.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
Was there a debate on whose name got to go
first busting or pay because I'd have gone Payton bussing,
But that's that's me.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
I think names are overrated in this sense, and like,
so we didn't argue at all about it all. Here's
what was funny. We were on a meeting Will Taylor
myself or on a meeting with ESPN one morning and
news leaks about the show coming out. We have no
idea what the show is because we're on a meeting
trying to figure out the name of the show, and
(48:28):
so like we're looking at Front Off. I think it
was Front Office Sports or OutKick that leaked the story,
and Lwan like his his instinct is I'm gonna retweet
it and said, that's cool. What's the name of the show,
because we didn't know.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
And so we're starting to figure it out. That was
where a lot of suggestions came in. That funny so
it's busting and pay on campus. So so it's called
on campus with bus busting and paid on campus three times. Okay,
I'll get your sticker busting and pay on campus and
you're gonna be doing the show. I was on Friday,
and you're going to stay out on Saturdays. Let's see
(49:02):
your stuff. I have a story about each of those guys.
I don't know Taylor at all, Lawan, but I forgive me.
I was landing back at the private airport and I
gave the I was like, hey, I'm here to pick
up my car, and so they bring it to you,
and so I got in and I had a rental
because somebody had hit me in my car, and so
(49:24):
I got in and I drove. I don't know third
of the way home and I realized, same kind of car.
This ain't my car. There was just like something weird
in the middle. And then I realized the cup holders
weren't the same because the rental they gave me wasn't
the car that I'm used to. But I had it
for like a week and it was a I don't want,
Doc Taylor. It was a big black Suv YEP, and
(49:45):
so I turned around, I drive it back and said,
this is not mine. They're like, oh yeah, sorry about that,
and they go and they bring another one up. I
was driving the one's suv home.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
No.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
The first thing that stands out to me about this
is that's a former NFL left tackle. The proportions of
the seat configuration alone very long.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
Guy, what do you want? I just want to.
Speaker 4 (50:05):
One of the guy that drove it to Bobby was
probably normal.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
Probably so I like the first one.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
I went to the doctor and uh six foot one recently, boy, absolutely,
thank you, So.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
You will do okay in the thirteen hundreds.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
What I'm saying. The other one is I have met Will.
We were at the Super Bowl and I was playing
with one of the barstool teams in the trivia, you know,
they do trivia, And I was on Brandon Walker's team
and that's the only time I've met well. And he
was extremely nice. Who knew he was like the kindest guy.
He came up and we were talking about we just
had the bad weather here that we had to live
(50:41):
in this place. It was so bad storm, yes, and
we were talking about, you know how it just had
destroyed where we live. And he was really really nice.
So I stole Lawan's car, but Compton was extremely nice
to me. That's my two stories.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Actually a pretty deep catalog of stories right out of
the pocket. You can relate to this, all right. I've
done solo stuff pretty much my whole media career. I
prefer it that way. It just far less things can
go wrong out of your control if you do solo.
So like I always wondered, okay, what would that ensemble
dynamic be like? Though, here's the problem, all right, And
(51:16):
this is what local news taught me. Sometimes you have
great on air chemistry with people you don't really like
all that much, and you have terrible on air chemistry
with people you do like. And it makes no sense
to someone who's never done this for a living. Because
you would think, oh, your buddies, that's who you'd get
along with on air. And I had both of those
cases happen. So I thought to myself, Man, what a
(51:36):
shame if I ever tried it out and I found
people who I clicked with, but I didn't like them
all that much. So I start doing stuff with those
guys just last year is really when I started doing
stuff with them. In first fifteen minutes of first show
that you do, you realize I like them a lot,
and Wow, there's a lot of synergy here, Like it's
just flowing. You can't create that in a lab. You either
(51:57):
got it with someone or you don't. The first show,
like we realized we got to put a protective fence
around this, Like we got to make sure this concept
right here because we all feel it, We all like it.
You want to have synergy with the people you like,
and if you can ever find that, those are the
ones you want to build franchises out of. And we're
two years into doing a little bit of that now.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
And also reading between the lines, you told me that
Will and La want hate each other. That's what I
got for it.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
At least I'm there, Yes yes to keep it together.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
Thanks for coming in. I love to hear your story.
I like for you to share it every so often,
especially with people that are watching and listening to me,
because it is you knew what you wanted, you sacrificed
to get there. You didn't have it easy even while
you were getting there, you made difficult decisions and you
got there, and so I like the story that resonates
(52:45):
with me. I feel like a lot of people that
listen to me and watch this stuff like they feel
that too. So thanks for sharing that. That's why I
kind of wanted to talk to you before, because you're
the kid with a swimming pool that in the summer
everybody wants to be friends with the kid that has
from the pool.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
Man, I knew those kids.
Speaker 1 (53:02):
Yeah, and in college football time, you can't get you
because everybody everybody wants you. So it's before I when
I messaged you, I was like, let's go before you,
before this phone poll opens, Let's get Josh in. So
I really appreciate you coming in. I'm rooting for you
because of what you come from and what you stand for.
And yeah, I hope to show on the field with
(53:22):
Peter and Bussy. Who does really.
Speaker 2 (53:24):
Great verbatim that I appreciate it, but you're killing it.
I'm a whole set up here, love it. I appreciate
you having me over.
Speaker 1 (53:30):
Thanks.
Speaker 5 (53:31):
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