Mumford & Sons sit down with Bobby to talk about the stretch when the band nearly came to an end, why stepping away became necessary, and how the hiatus ultimately helped them come back reenergized. Marcus Mumford and Ted Dwane open up about enjoying the band more than ever, dealing with internet trolls, and why they have no interest in avoiding the songs fans want to hear. They also get into the music that shaped them growing up, the story behind the Mumford & Sons name, and what it was like working with Chris Stapleton and Gracie Abrams as they entered a new era of the band.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Where's the name come from?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
It's temporary. I drove past the pub where we sat
up our old manager and we talked about the name,
and we were like, well, let's just roll with Muffin
and Sons for a bit because it's like, it's not
like we're going to sound any records, so like tour
internationally or anything like that, because we were a pub band.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Everybody today, big show, the wonderfully popular, amazing sounding Mumford
and Sons are here. Marcus Mumfort, the band's lead singer,
guitarist and drummer, Ben Lovett vocals and keys, and Ted
Dwayne bass guitar, vocals.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
They've had so many massive songs formed in London in
two thousand and seven, millions of records, multiple Grammys, Little Lionman, Jam,
I Will Wait, Jam the Cave Jam. They're back on
the road, they have new music and so here they
are the great Mumford and Sons. Give me thirty second
(01:02):
answers on these. Let's let's just do our history. How
did you guys meet? Well, school, you guys were together.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I met him in the pub.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Okay, what song did you guys record together? Even before
it was released? Where you thought, oh, this might be something,
we might be something that lasts.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
I think it was the Cave that was one that
I remember distinctly, remember white.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Black page demo in your house. Where's the name come from?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
It's temporary. I drove past the pub where we set
up our old manager and we talk about the name,
and we were like, well, let's just roll with Mutherlin
and Sons for a bit, because it's like, it's not
like we're going to sell any records or like tour
internationally or anything like that, because we were a pub band,
and we actually we grew to love it because.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
We're all session players that got fired from our day
jobs and then set.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Out the band No Way.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, And it started to be around the collection songs
that Marcus had and we were very used to like
backing up up a songwriter and Marcus had always been
a drummer and all of these session bands that we
were in, and so it was like a novelty that
Marcus was sort of stepping to the front of the
stage and singing and playing the guitar, and yeah, it
was that was that's why we don't have a drummer.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Did you guys do munch covers. Like when you first
started playing, were you playing You say pub band to me,
I think bar band here where they play covers, covers,
the spots.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
The spots we were playing were like it was more
like the sixties in New York, like the cafes where
you'd come if you had a song. I mean, those
guys played a lot of covers, to be fair, but
it was like if you had a song, you could
jump up and play it and if it was good,
you could play another one. So it's that kind of
atmosphere that we grew up in.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
And then there were a lot less people in the
audience than if we'd done like Sweet Home Alabama and all.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, but that was good.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, it started us. Yeah started small.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Do you think you've ever played Sweet Home Alabama as
a band?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Good question, No, No, we haven't.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
We played a lot of Twain, but we haven't played
We were kind of were talking music before you guys came. Man,
so uh County Crows. That's August and everything after that
album right there? Massive Okay, So Marcus to what you said,
that record, that's my favorite album I think ever of
all time.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
It's very formative record for me. That one why so
I think it was one of the first records that
felt like mine rather than my older brothers, and I
would just play it to death. Missus Potter's Lotaby right, Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
This the one with the fish bowl had Missus Potters lullaby.
Oh stitch up? Yeah, so that was yeah, just handed
over to him. That was round here. That was mister
Jones the radio songs. But it was also like Anna
begins change Me Yes, that one to me. That one
in like this John Mayer record back Here Room for Squares,
Like John Mayer was like the first artist I ever heard, right,
(03:48):
That spoke for me, because you know, you always heard songs, yeah,
but then finally when someone wrote something and you thought,
I feel that, like that's what John Mayer was had.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
That experience too. It was an age where I really
felt like I was finding my own music. Like you said,
you know, your brother obviously gave you a lot of music.
My sister gave me a lot of music. And then, Yeah,
it used to be a lot more fun because you
had to physically go and discover it in a record
store or whatever. You know, wasn't quite as algorithmic as
it is now.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
So you guys are doing what I do. I know,
I'm starting to be.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
That He's been that guy since he was eighteen years old.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
True, I was thinking about the old days. In the old.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Days, and I've hit him a couple of times, but
they just don't make music like that.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Like I'm that.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
So you had an older sister, Yes, sir, what kind
of music did she listen to?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
She The first cassette she ever gave me was Take
That and Party because she wanted it. But things got
better quite quickly. We used to listen to a lot
of Michael Jackson, which I loved, and then we started
going into a bit more of a grungy world and
we are shared lovers Nirvana a long time.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
You had an older brother, What did he have you
listened to?
Speaker 5 (05:04):
There's a lot of Radiohead, a lot of Radiohead. He
was six years older than me. But he introduced me
to Bob Dylan and that was that was big and
then I was obsessed. We were talking about this earlier today.
I was obsessed with Roger Miller from a very young
age because of the Disney version of robin Hood, which
might be my favorite movie of all time. I had
(05:24):
a robin Hood club when I was four and my
babysitter was mate Marian.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I also think I had She was probably my first crush.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
But weird.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
You had a robin hood robin hood club. What's that?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Well?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I was like in a robin hood club like I was.
You were a member of a robin hood club?
Speaker 6 (05:39):
How many people were in?
Speaker 5 (05:40):
There was two me and the babysity, but we had
a little notebook and everything, you know. But Roger Miller
really was like my favorite songwriter as a child that
I can remember feeling like connected to his songs.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Did you have older siblings?
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Have three of them?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
And so what kind of music did they have you
listened to before you found yours?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
My sixth birthday party mixtape cassette was fifty percent was
supposed to be a mixtape and fifty percent was rim.
So they were kind of getting me brainwashed on that,
and then I kind of started to veer away. With
three old disiblings, you've got more places to hide, you know,
(06:22):
you're not kind of their pet. I think these guys were.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
But you did.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Your bedroom in that house was like away from everyone else's.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Right the top floor.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
Yeah, I went on my own journey.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Did you ever go back and have an RAM phase
again as you got older.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Yeah, we actually did on the tour bus the other night.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
We went quite deep. It was it was amazing. We
were like, I think it started.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
With one and then we were kind of an hour
and a half later still of going deeper and what
blew our mind?
Speaker 6 (06:48):
But I think it was a mutual revelation.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
How many records they made before post?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Well yeah, yeah, I think there was, like there was
a lot of albums, there's a lot to go and
there's a great.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I did a whole show on Netflix about greatest alternative
Songs of all time, and I had like an r
M song in the top five, and people were confused.
I say, there's there was. There's no more alternative band
than r M. Like RIM was alternative before grunge. Like
you're getting the two a little bit mixed up. But
what RIM was doing in freaking Athens, Georgia, that was
as alternative as it got. And I've had a couple
(07:23):
of different times in my life where I've been in
r e M phases Because once I went and saw
him live and they didn't play any hits. Really, Yeah,
will you guys ever do that where you just give
up and play no hits. No we don't do that. God, no,
we don't do that.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
If I went to the show and we're no cool
enough to do that, am can do that?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
No young can do that. I don't know you think
it's main I felt. I felt I didn't need all
the hits. You want to leave Orange Crush out, that's fine,
that's fine. You want to leave losing my religion? Now, Okay,
I get it a little too big, maybe a little
too pop. Give me shiny high be.
Speaker 7 (08:00):
People can give me something version of even or take
one song and put three hits in it and play
a medley just so you can get them all out
of your systems.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, like do that for the fan. Yeah, bless them.
But there's alternate cool.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
They're too cool.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
They got it. What about when you started to pick
your own music? Mark and I'll start with you, like,
what was what's your first own music? What band?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
It was?
Speaker 5 (08:25):
The mis Education Lauren Hill and kind of Blue by
Miles Davis on the same day from the same CD
shop in wimbled And Broadway. When I had a drum
teacher at the time who was like, you're going you'll
play what you listened to? So I need You to
go and buy Kind of Blue by Miles Davis. So
I did that almost as education work, and then I
bought Miss Education Lauren Hill for myself and that was
(08:46):
that was the beginning of my record collecting journey.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I think were they CDs? Yeah, the juxtaposition of those
two is interesting. The first two CDs I ever bought
were a CDC and Mariah Carey. They go at the
same time, at the same time, Here's what you used
to do, And they had nothing to do with each other,
but it did show that you could kind of have
music taste that didn't quite hold hands. Where were you?
Speaker 6 (09:10):
You know?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
I was big in my teen years, went down a
pretty pop punk world and scar Love, no doubt, But
I actually feel like the first record that I kind
of lived and cherished with was an artist that Marks
put me onto, which was really a Montanne And I
remember listening to Ray's songwriting. We were probably eighteen nineteen.
(09:37):
Marks had been listening to him for a minute and
then it was like, you got to check this out,
and I remember being it was kind of a very
private experience of like really understanding someone's deeply personal truth
and feeling like you can relate to it entirely as
if it was your own. And that was like a
transformational thing because I kind of whether it was blinkin
(09:59):
eight or No Doubt or I'd had moments where I
touched it, but I didn't know what it felt like
to really be in that until rayde Montagne. He really
opened up a whole door of songwriting. I was like,
that was a life changing record.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
What about you? I was just kind of thinking about
it because it is quite scattergun really, I think obviously
my sister and her like the gift of Nirvana weirdly
sent me on like a deep Blues and also like
a led Zeppeliny kind of It was pretty cool. And
then over here in parallel, I had like a very
fearsome new metal obsession of corn and limp biscuit and
(10:40):
all of the stuff I guess my friends were listening to,
which is kind of cool in the late nineties at school,
Papa Roach, Yeah, a little bit, yeah, Oh, I mean
a bit of fear Factory. It was pretty fierce, a
lot of it, soulfly Sepultura, a bit of Pantera. My
first ever gig was oz Fest nineteen ninety eight. You
went to a played I went to. Yeah, I was
(11:01):
a kid, so big.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
For you guys in your version of English, the proper English,
the real English. Does gig mean concert you attend? Yes,
not something you do, because here, if I'm going to
go and.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Play a gig, I got it work, I got work
to do.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
No, gig is something you attend like a concert, yeah,
or show.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Interesting, I'm gonna remember that you're in trouble earlier for
you using the phrase slagging off, which no one understood.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Jacking off, No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
That's what I would have.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Slagging off is insulting behind someone's back. You slag someone off,
you're insulting them.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
That's good to know. Therefore, I don't think someone that's
slagging me off is doing something I yes. What about
if you take the piss from someone.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
It's also not jacking them off. That is, it's a
similar to slagging them off.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Well, so you don't take the piss from them, you
take the piss out of them.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Of them, yeah, or out of them.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, take the piss away from them. But it's pissed,
not urine. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
Yeah, but taking the piss is what is If someone's
taking the piss it means they are taking liberties, they're
going too far, they're taking the piss.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, why is piss involved? I don't quite know. But well,
you know, so you just experienced the World Cups? Did
you not kind of no? Did it sort of pass
you by a little bit. I'm a massive sports guy.
I work for the NFL, and I think after this
World Cup, you guys all big, It's more important than
(12:33):
anything else in my life. Okay, I now think and
I grew up I love baseball. I think soccer is
more entertaining than baseball. And I grew up diehard baseball fan.
Oh wow, Now here's why I think that. Thank you
for asking. Here's why I think that. If you didn't
grow up and every single thing about baseball that can
be so freaking boring. It's really confusing, quite long. And
I think people in the States that watch soccer and
(12:54):
we didn't grow up with it at all, we can
go they don't score a lot, but you know how
long it takes for a baseball Oh my god, I'd
stab my ear with a pair of scissors if I
didn't know what So I feel like I used critical
thinking skills. Well done, and said I think soccer is
more entertaining than baseball all things even, that's.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
A really big deal. Do you think a lot of
people have had that revelation.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
No, I think I'm smarter than see.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
The thing is, I don't think it has to innately
be like a competition between sports.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Just give me more sports all the time. But you
know how we are in the stage. Everything has to
be a list and it has to we have to
compare with them.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
The problem with soccer, as you would call it, is
that it's not a statistician's dream in the same way
that baseball is, because there aren't quite so many things
to put in a data spreadsheet and and build a
sort of data career off because a lot of its
feel and touch and stuff you can't really put into spreadsheets.
Like what Lionel Messi does off the ball, There's no
(13:51):
way you can put that in a spreadsheet, and that's
what makes it so magic.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
So it's quite anymore off the ball. He's older, so
he's always done stands around. Know, he's always walked off
the boy.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
I saw against Chelsea in twenty twelve at Stamford Bridge
and just watching him off the boy. He don't get
to set on TV because they don't follow him because
he's just walking around and then suddenly he'll run. And
that's the magic of what he can do off the ball,
which is I'm trying to explaense to my wife.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
She's not friends. I did watch more respectfully to you guys,
football than I ever have in my entire life of
this World Cup, probably because it was in the stage
of the time zones. It was a good World Cup too.
You know who I liked freaking Holland.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Yeah, he's very likable, that dude, big leg. Yeah. He
didn't do a lot of right.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
He also exited very well. Did you notice he was
a very good He didn't exited well. That means when
they got knocked out, he was a very magnanimous loser.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Oh yeah. He also before they got knocked out, he
was going, I don't know if we're going to win.
They're better than we are. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I thought that was hilarious.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
He's very funny class So that's him the West Pajamas
everywhere too, see him in silk wherever he goes.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Did you guys ever watch Home Improvement?
Speaker 6 (15:00):
Mm hmm, the movie?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
No, No, I didn't.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
What's he called Tim? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, wonderful.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Chase it Tim Adam Allan, Tim Allen, he.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
Was movie a movie.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
He's buzz light Year, isn't he. Okay, we're boy spreading
right now. Okay now no, no, but you're all right,
you're all right. So Tim Allen played Tim the Tolman
Taylor on Home Improvement. That was a television show. He
later was buzz light Year.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, I did not know it.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Really, that's the guy from Time Improvement. It's buzz light.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Literally, gonna take me weeks to process that situation.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yeah, anyway, where are we going with? He was also
the Santa Claus in that movie. You ever see that? Yeah, sure,
that's a good one. Anyway, on that show, well you
didn't know that either, Ted slipknot mate, that's sorry, stunny brain.
On that show, one of the suns has the Holland
haircut with his hair up like it's the only time
(16:00):
I've ever seen it until he brought it back and
I thought, dang, I wonder if I could pull that
off on my phone. Yeah, Like it's like long and
you shave underneath it.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
It's cool.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
It's quite Viking based. Yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, Ted, your hair is different than I thought it
was going to be.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
What would you change?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Nothing, It's just not what I expected when you walked in.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I'm doing the upside down head trick where you got
more hair down here than.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
But you don't have a You're not losing your hair.
Usually only guys that lose.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Their hair do that. That sounds like quite Is this
an aggressive look?
Speaker 1 (16:31):
No? I just I did that.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I didn't expect the short in the long It's something
I default to when my hair gets to a certain length,
I'll just literally go into the nearest place and be like,
can you buzz this away?
Speaker 6 (16:43):
We like it?
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yeah, a lot of support from I don't not I
don't not like it. I just said I didn't expect it.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
You just referred to it as that which I felt.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I thought it was going to be a little furrier.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yeah, I mean I can understand this.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, so when you walk did and I was because you're.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Worried about me, like I'm having like a bit of
a mid life I'm a fan. I would out I'm
in am I in trouble? I think I'm I think
I'm okay. My personal life is pretty together.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I was just talking about so not not your personal life,
but it was putting me on something. I was just
talking about, there's some tiktoks out there about me now
that say exposing Bobby Bones, and it's supposed to like
be secrets about me, and I've already shared it all,
so you can't really expose anything I've shared. Do you
guys see those videos about you? Ever? That's like the
things you about Munthfort and said you've never even known,
(17:36):
and you're like that everybody knows.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
That, well?
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Are they? Are they out there?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I quit?
Speaker 5 (17:42):
I quit all the social media stuff a while back,
but there was one tweet that I really loved, which
said I have it on good authority that all of
the boys in that band are complete cunts. And I
thought it was And then I ended my tweet career
on just really I saw that and I thought, that's
absolutely fantastic?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Was it?
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Teds?
Speaker 5 (18:03):
And then I've never looked I've never I've never looked
back at it.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Is there anything that can happen to you now that
you would still think is really cool?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (18:12):
We are made because you guys are are your monsters now?
Like you've done it all. I was just kind of
looking to see everyonere you've played and all like the
we finally checked this off the list, like I feel
like you've done it all.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
No, I completely disagree. I think the last year has
been more curious than the first ten years of the band.
It's I think we're more kind of aware of what's
going on now than we were at the beginning, which
makes everything that we're doing seem kind of more insane.
And when we go out on stage and we get
(18:46):
to do the things that we do, I think there's
like a level of I don't know whether it's like
sobriety or appreciation or you know.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
We were being largely drunk.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
Dad, or I don't know what it is.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
We're just like seeing it and I'm just like, you know,
Marcus said this thing, which I thought was really sweet,
and also I completely understand, which is like he's like
catching up to the fact that people like the band.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
I feel like I suddenly have something in common with
the audience, which is like, I really like this band
as well, but it's taken me a while.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
And yeah, we're more present to.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
It, I think than we were in the early days
and more grateful for I think we had quite a
long break as well, and then we'd come back at
it and felt re energized and just loving and just
really enjoying it, and more than ever so getting to
do it again at this scale because this year's bonkers,
particularly getting to play Fenway and Rigley and folsome Field
(19:41):
and getting to go deeper into this country and other
parts of the world than we ever have before, and
then most of our friends and bands ever get to.
I think we now see what a unique position we're in,
an opportunity that we have, and genuinely like feeling more
gratitude than we ever have to our audience.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
You know, when you find we're having a laugh. When
you took a break, did you ever feel like maybe
this break is permanent?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah? I think.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
I think we didn't know until we sat down together
to write more songs, and then the song started coming
thick and fast, and within the first few days I
was like, oh, yeah, we're going to keep doing this
for a very long time.
Speaker 8 (20:14):
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and we're back on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
How do you guys write songs?
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Just PLoP them out just like incubate them.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Do you know what you're doing right? Now you're taking
the piss from It's not fair.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
No, I mean they're all different. We were discussing our
approach that and you know, it's it's funny. Each record
is sort of unique, and I think, you know, it's
it's a bit of a product of like where we
are creatively, who we're working with as a producer. The
last record we made, Prize Fighter with Aaron Desner, was
just like so quick because he really would just come
(21:08):
out of working with some other producers who had got
us warmed up into like trusting our creative instincts more
and stuff like that. So when we landed in the
arms of Aaron, who has been in a longtime friend
and collaborator, we would just kind of like yeah, teed up,
just to trust our instincts and first idea, best idea,
and you know, be really open collaboratively. I think the
(21:31):
more open we are, the better the music is and
the quicker it happens. I think sometimes we can get
ring fenced and protective of ideas that we're really proud
of or whatever, when actually that's the least chance of
success that idea is going to have.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
You know what song I loved, I feel like we're
so well written. I'm biased, but the Stableton song, like,
I love Chris anyway personally, professionally, he's an absolute legend,
and so it could possibly affect it a little, but
I don't think it is.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
It does all the way.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
But I think that's such a well written song.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
That's my favorite song we've ever written. I think I
don't think I wouldn't go so far as say it's
the best because I'm not the judge. I can't be
the judge of that, but it's my favorite we've ever written.
I think it says lots of what I want to
just like in the particular moments, says what I wanted
to say. And it was an idea that came about
in my garage and Los Angeles when we were living there,
and we sat down together the first week writing.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Back together after COVID.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
Basically it was like what it was twenty three, It's
January twenty three, and I wrote the verse on this
sort of wobbly la quite cool guitar. Then we came
made a record here in Nashville. Dave Cobb didn't quite
work on that record, and then we took it to
Aaron Destin and he was like, you're overthinking this, like
here the cowboy chords, here's how it should go, and
he was so right, and suddenly it just came out.
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We wrote the bridge and I said, we've got ascended
to Chris Stapleton. We've never met Chris, and I called him.
I got his number and I called him and he
kindly took the call. We talked for like an hour
about everything else other than the song, and then and
then he said, yeah, I jump in and record it
next week. And it was just my dream since the
song had really come about, because I think he's the
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voice of a generation. I think he's a generational talent.
He's one of my favorite voices of all time. And
he had the kind of world weariness that suited that
verse so well that that then when he sang it,
I had to go back and redo my harmonies because
he was, yeah, yeah, he just raised the bar and
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that's what he does.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
And then he went back in.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
And it's interesting that that week, though, when Marcus brought
that song in and you asked before about whether you know,
we ever considered kind of laying our instruments down and
stopping the band. That week was kind of the question
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and that the answer was in the songs. And I
have a very distinct memory when Marcus played here that
it was like, oh, we have a lot of unfinished
business to do, and not only in the essence of
that song, but also the promise of what then became
two albums over the next two years. It was, you know,
we were like stealing away to little coffee spots and
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stuff and Mark's.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
Had a truck. We're driving around truck.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
It was a really beautiful kind of creative spurt, but
also like renew all of ows.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
Where we just were like this, this is what we
should be doing.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
And that's what that song was too. It was like
a drawing a line under the first era of the
band really and like ushering in the next one, which
we're in now. We made two records since then, you know,
we're doing more shows than we've ever done before and
absolutely loving it. But that song felt like a punctuation
mark on his everything that came before, and then like
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ushering us into a new thing. But then it came
on the second record, which so it was it jumped
around like the timing of the release of it.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
But that's what because you get recording it because he said,
you kept having.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Coming in.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
I'm a big fan of Gracy Abram as well. She's
on the record. How did that come together?
Speaker 5 (25:17):
She was upstairs Electric Lady the day we were still
finishing Rushmere, which we made with Dave Cobb here, and
Aaron and Gracie were upstairs writing and Aaron Texas said, oh,
hear here in the building, come say hi. So they
came down and we played them a couple of things
from what we were finishing up on Rushmere, but then
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Aaron was like, Gracie went, and then Aaron was like,
let me play a couple things.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
I've been working on.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
I was thinking about you guys, and he played It's
the beginning of the Badjo Song and Prize Fighter, which
were two songs that we finished and we're actually the
first two songs we started really for Prize Fighter. And
then Gracie was working on something upstairs asked me to
come up here it and I ended up singing on it,
which is what If It's Right, which is on her
new record, and then she came downstairs and heard us
writing the first lyrics on Prize Fighter, and then we
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just kind of stayed in contacts in each other bits
of music and lyrical ideas, and she became like a
kind of fairy godmother for this record. She's sort of
all sort of midwife for it because she watched the
whole process and was really encouraging all the way. You know,
we've known her for a long time and just love
us so much. She's wonderful.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Is it weird? People are just discovering you guys for
the first time. That's very exciting to me. That's cool.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
I think we all did it with other artists, and
you forget that, you know, you don't have to be
there at the beginning. There's a lot of musicians who
I found out about in their fourth, sixth, eighth album.
And then the best thing is that you get to
go backwards. You don't only have to be there at
the beginning for the bragging rights to your friends to
say I was you know, I think it has become
maybe more of that than ever is like the kind
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of discovery validation or kind of the cutos that comes
with that. But we see our shows a lot of
the time because people are getting younger and younger at
our shows and you're like standing there on stage, you're
looking out, you know, this person was probably not born
when we were starting the band, but that's really cool
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to us.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
I feel like for those that are watching that maybe
twelve sorry about the sea, bumb about that now, let
me cut that bat. They did Netflix Kids, so he
got automatically believed on that. Yea. When you talk about
artists that you kind of get into later, when you're
talking about that, I think for me it was Tom
Petty that like probably when I'm finding my own music,
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and that Wildflowers album came out and they're so much
great before and I'd known a couple of songs, but
just from the radio. Yeah, but I fell so in
love with that album just You Belong Long and everything
about them that I went and it was a deep dive.
I learned everything, I bought everything I possibly could, and
I was twenty years twenty five years late. I was
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like that.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
With Willie Nelson, Tiatro really got me into him, and
that was late because that record came out in like
ninety six and I didn't hear it till like properly
dive into it for twenty years after that, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
And with Willen I went backwards. It's like a songwriting, yeah,
because his voice are so distinct. Absolutely, but it's a
songwriting for me. They go like he was just ahead.
I feel like he was ahead of everyone. He kind
of set the rules for everyone else. What about you, guys,
who did you find later?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
I'm not racking my brain. I'm so up with contemporary sunce.
I'm late to every party. So it's all. It's all
very novelist.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Who's your favorite of all time right now?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Like band or just one am listen to?
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Who creates music that is your number one?
Speaker 2 (28:52):
I'm like a Bill Evans obsessive at the moment. If
I'm at home, I'm listening to music, it's almost certainly
Bill Evans.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna jazz. I was going
to be honest enough to go, I don't.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Know what that is.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yeah, you should check him out. He's really good at
the piano. But he's going to check him out. No, No,
I'm being Jimmy serious. But I almost confident that you
probably not.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
You don't going to check him out, no judging.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
We're very exlectic and excellent taste display checking out the elevens.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
I thought that was you remember his name is?
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, what's the place in Canada where you
go and you get to the donuts and stuff Bill.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Bill Ye, Bob Bob Evan, Bob Evans, alright, Yah, that's
his brother, got mixed up?
Speaker 1 (29:40):
I thought you Jim Horton's yeah, or Tim Horton, Tim
Holtons Horton, Jimmy's We're getting there, We're getting there, okay,
Tim Allen. Just the question is, the question is who
did you get into late?
Speaker 2 (29:59):
You want?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
You were so moved by it, you wanted to discover
everything about them.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
I think it was Stevie Wonder.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
I think Stevie Wonder, Stevie Wondering a couple of bands
when we were eleven years old. Totally, But you didn't
hated it, no, no, no, no, no, I was.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
I was then there was so much as such a
rich catalog to like actually just got better and better
over the next ten years.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
And I think.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Any really, anyone who's older than us, you could say
that you were getting into late in your music evolution.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Right.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
But the question of who do I think is the
best ever?
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Who is your favorite? That's a weird question. Best ever?
Who's your favorite ever?
Speaker 4 (30:41):
And I like how you qualified it as today, But
I think it's probably Bonnie Raite because we were talking
about Can't Make You Love Me? And yeah, just just
like there's like there's some people and maybe Carold King
as well as another one who did like a deep
dive on recently, who just are sow quality for such
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a long period of time. Doesn't feel like it was
like a moment that they just held onto for dear life.
It was just like quality songwriting consistently, you know, writing standards.
Those are like aspirational people.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
What about you favorite?
Speaker 5 (31:22):
Ever, it's still ready ahead, but Bruce Springston comes in
close second.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
See I never got the Bruce thing, did you not?
But the people that I respect do So I have
that respect because the people that I respect the most
as songwriters and as just musicians or creators, they love them.
So there's something that I'm not smart enough to get. Huh.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
I'm a bit like that with Rim like a lot
of my favorite musicians, favorite band, and I've never really
done the ram thing fully.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
What is it respect? What is it about Bruce?
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Do you?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Then?
Speaker 5 (31:55):
I mean just the sheer volume of bona fide amazing
songs that he's written and the fact that he continues
to push creatively I just really admire his career arc
over everyone else's.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I think because he's.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
Like weather the storms of being cool and then not
being cool, and then like appearing in an older kind
of legacy space and then coming up in the middle
of a protest movement and popping up and playing with
Tom Morello. And I just think he's I think he's Yeah,
I think he's one of the truer artists.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Ever watch The One Man Show on Netflix or went
saw it?
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
How it was incredible? It was incredible. Yeah, I saw
it when it was on Broadway.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Did you eversee Hamilton?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (32:47):
And I'm going again on Friday.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
In New York.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Why because my kids got it. When I saw it,
I went early. I didn't know they weren't going to talk.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
I find that challenging with musicals in general, and my
wife will fight me tooth and nail on this one.
But I'm like, when you're having to sing the story,
I think like it's compromised your story and the singing. Yeah,
I'll just take a little break, tell us what's going on,
and then have another sing.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
But we'll give Hamilton.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
They for Hamilton's amazing. No, Yes, but I didn't know
they were never going to talk. So I'm going and
I'm by myself. My agent's like, hey, you want to
go to Hamilton and get you if you went on
your own. Yeah, I was in New York for work
and major I was like, you should go, I get you.
We'll get a tick in our box or whatever. So
I go and I sit down and they start and
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it's cool, and it's like, Yo, we're Washington.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
D C. Here we are. Here's a dollar everybody.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
And I'm like all right, or I'm trying to keep up,
but they're going to talk soon and tell me what's
going on because I'm lost. And then they go to
the next song and they're like find and fore Father,
found of fend of fore bothers. And I'm like, oh
my god, okay, after they never stopped about halfway through ago,
they're never stopping.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
I have to focus, Yeah, you do, have to really
never stop, and then you go away. I think the
first time I saw it, I was just impressed by
the whole thing. I didn't really understand what was going
on a lot of the time, and my knowledge of
that part of American history what I think of as
a temporary tax rebellion is you know, is not deep?
And then I went away and listened to the soundtrack
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so much that I now am really excited to go
back and watch it again.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
See I know all the words. Now, yeah, exactly should
we go?
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I'm good? Yeah, okay, but.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
You need to spend time with the kids, so I'm
going to respect that. But I yeah, I didn't once
I understood it was better to me.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
What percentage of speaking would have made it make more
sense to you?
Speaker 1 (34:51):
I just needed like every three songs to give me
a brief overview of what was just rapped about it,
or if someone would have said before before you go in,
they're never going to talk as an expectation management thing. Yeah,
like when I saw Kinky Boots, they talked, they sang.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
I caught me up.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
It was awesome. It was so good, But I just
didn't understand. I was just I was stunned when I
went in because I was like, are they not? And
I gave up a little bit. I was like, I'm
just gonna wait for the songs over. Then the next
one started, okay, but it was you're right, do you
guys feel like you're our daddy? You won't England.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Do you guys feel like you're o a dad and
like we were.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Talking about the temporary text Redlan yea, yeah. You see,
I was fishing and I didn't get a vision and
I was like, that's boring coming back around the boat.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Do you kind of feel like, you know, you're a dad?
Speaker 5 (35:44):
No, I feel like an older cousin, but kind of
like you know, I mean the position of authoritsy sure.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
You know what I like? I like, you know, I
was born here, I do in California, Yes, sir, Yeah,
I was told that today due citizen A bit of both.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
What age did you leave? Six months only counter soccer here?
Came back every Well I could be I could run
for president, you can not for NFL. Came back every year.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Well, we have a player on our on our US team,
our team this year. Yeah, he was His mom was
he was born here by kind of by accident, but
he had to play on the team because he's a citizen.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
Hold On, hold On, born here by accident? Yeah, what
does that mean?
Speaker 1 (36:32):
It means she was pregnant and wasn't planning to have
the child here in the States. Had the child here
in the States, and then he's got.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
A very very London accent. I'll tell you that it's great.
I'm slightly annoyed that he's classified as an American for
soccer purposes as well as passport purposes.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Well, I could play for the US team.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
I could, as long as I hadn't played for the
English team beyond a certain level. I think it's like, yeah,
technically yet, but yeah, no, you're right, yeah I could.
I could complete in lots of different sports to represent
the United States of America all anyway.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
I just want to know if you guys always feel
like you're a dad. No, I don't think we feel
like that. We're a very very very small country. But
we took your language, you did, and you did certain
things with it that have been regrettable. But otherwise, you know,
I like in my five and in my six, that's cool.
There was so there was just a BBC article about
why the M I M I six is such a
(37:34):
like obsession around the world. It's why why did it say?
I didn't read it.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
I just saw the headline, but it was a picture
of Jane's bond in some iteration, and it's probably why. Yeah,
I like excellent marketing from them.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
I like it because it's easy. In my five domestic, yeah,
I six International, CIA, like we have FB, I, C A.
We got to describe what each.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
Of them means.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Sure, I like in my number systems, well yeah, like
elevate a bigger number more like yeah, yeah, yeah, we
need to add here we have different letters, you know
the difference in fantastic? Uh what do you guys have?
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Like? What?
Speaker 1 (38:17):
No, don't, I'm not. I'm being with you of the
UK at this point in time. Thank you for asking.
You're welcome. So here's what I thought was crazy. Yeah,
go on, you have buildings that are just chilling. Double
the age of our country. Yeah, until I went over
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the first time and only went over because the episode
of Friends where Joey goes over great episodes. A wedding,
I take the Rachel and Emily's up there. It's like,
oh my god, you guys seen that Friends episode.
Speaker 6 (38:55):
You went for a friend's wedding. You went over for
the TV.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Show Friends, and then you can't in London because you wanted. Yeah,
we're gonna rewind it perfect. So in the show Friends,
there's a wedding and they go to London for the wedding.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
Are you in the episode?
Speaker 2 (39:11):
No, but I loved it.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
She was saying it as if you were.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
I never went. I grew up so poor, I never
went anywhere, and so when I made money, I'm going
to where all the TV shows are. So I went
to Hawaii for Brady Bunch, I went to Japan for
Full House, Jesse and the Rippers. When I went to London,
I went to London for friends, not my real friends,
but for the TV show Friends, and then I take
the Rachel but it was Emily good.
Speaker 6 (39:40):
So where did we go for him? Improvement?
Speaker 1 (39:42):
So we don't different universes, but the buildings in the
Age of Things really put into perspective how young of
a country we are because you guys have and have
held on and have taken care of things for things
so much longer than we existed. That's my takeaway. When
I left it, That's what I thought about. There is
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some very old share around your house.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Quite old, isn't it, Well, it's my old's really house.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
Mothern Ted hanging in there doing great with the interviews
and that.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
I just thought it'd be furrier, and be honest, I
just thought it would be fair.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
You know I did. It's yeah, it's on the Yeah,
it's on the beach.
Speaker 9 (40:25):
Now the Bobby Cast will be right back. This is
the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
I got three final questions. What's a home show? What
where do you go? When it's a home show?
Speaker 2 (40:46):
London?
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Like park, You'll be in to California, probably New York City,
is it?
Speaker 4 (40:53):
I was explaining someone that I've lived in New York
longer than I lived in London.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Wow, you really true?
Speaker 6 (40:59):
Sorry?
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Yeah, that's mental, that's crazy.
Speaker 5 (41:02):
I mean, I think the band haven't been formed in London,
makes London a particularly homie type show.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
But there you go a bit of everything.
Speaker 5 (41:12):
When we go to Singapore, Ted often tells us how
he lived in Singapore right for seven years?
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Seven years quite a long time, he really did. Yeah, Yeah,
I don't know what you anymore. You can mess away
like I don't know if you. I don't know Bob Evans,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
He's great sex player.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Yeah, no, piano player. And you're lying there now, I
don't know. I'm looking up. I gotta know before in
this in a minute.
Speaker 6 (41:39):
But hold on, Bob, Bill Bill put it.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
I never imagined driving a stake of mistrust between us
Bill Oh.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Bob Evans in a restaurant Evansimi Jim Hortons piano player,
all right. He died in nineteen eighty. He was an
American jazz pianist and croposer who worked as the leader
of his trio.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
That's right. Also play on kind of bly he did,
indeed good knowledge.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
Legend question two of three before we wrap it up,
what song does the crowd sing that allowed us back
to you?
Speaker 6 (42:22):
It depends where we are.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
He doesn't believe you. He does not believe you.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
He's a real skeptic, true.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Skeptical.
Speaker 4 (42:32):
I feel like we've been around for a minute so
that the band has had different impact at different times
at different parts of the world.
Speaker 6 (42:39):
Yeah, that's truality.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
We kind of emerged like go to Australia, Little line
Man all day long.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
America is probably I will wait, partly because of the
Grammys moments. I don't know, but it does change. And
then sometimes we go to parts of Europe and our
third album was like the one that we made a
lot of sense to people. So it's kind of fun
for us because the set list emphasis changes. Well than
having that one song, we've never really had a hit,
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so we're kind of among well in that way, you
don't think I do.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Think you've had a hit based on today's definition of
a hit. Maybe on ten years AGO's definition, I could go,
I understand that, but today's definition, I would say you
you now, I have had many hits.
Speaker 6 (43:28):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
Oh no, you don't need me.
Speaker 6 (43:32):
Waiting for someone.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
I just because there's a difference in what is a
hit today, because a hit today is just getting enough
eyes and ears in any capacity whatsoever, to be compelled
to care. Yeah, like if you can reach a threshold
of people that care about a song.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
Which is effectively like cultural residence, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
That is a hit. And I don't think that was
considered a hit ten years ago because it was just
a chart Yeah.
Speaker 6 (43:58):
So we for sure never had a chart topping song.
Easy to make the weird.
Speaker 5 (44:02):
Charts, yeah, loads of the weird chart ones, loads them.
But it's so confusing that I don't know, I mean,
you know, I sometimes I mean, who's into the chart thing?
And I'd be like, yeah, like nineteen number ones, and
I'm like, what what do you mean? And then they
name some sort of niche category, sort of sports Christian rap.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
In that case, I've had a few hits myself. They
have a you've probably won a number of Grammys. No, whammys,
I've won. Yeah, they're close, bigger yeah. Me and Bob
Evans were the leaders. Ye, Jim Allen Yeah, Timton yeah
yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 6 (44:43):
No, it is Tim Morton?
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Is it Tim Morton store? Right?
Speaker 5 (44:49):
The restaurant, it's a It's a coffee shop, that's all
all Adport.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
I can't get out of my head. It's one of
the Canadian coffee shops. I know it from being in Canada. Yeah,
me too, but I can't remember what it's cool is.
I think it's Tim Horton. I think it's Tim So
that was right.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Can anyone explain to me Ruth's Chris Steaks? I can.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
I can explain it through it, man, Let me explain
it to you.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
It freaks me out. Oh my god. When I this
is me.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
When I was twenty two, I thought to myself, when
I have enough money, I'm going to Ruth Chris every
week because that is where people with ties would go.
And I always wanted to go eat where people with
ties went because they had steaks with like butter. They
didn't need steak sauce, So that is I mean, I was.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Really inquiring about the name itself, because yeah, yeah, Ruth's plural.
Let's look it up before we go. Created one more thing.
It doesn't make any sense. I need the entomology.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Okay, I'm just gonna say, who is Ruth Chris? Ruth's
it's Ruth. Who is Bill? It's a woman? Okay, here
we go.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Would you say Ruth's Chris?
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Okay, No, I think you said her real name. There's
no single person name Ruth Chris. Instead, the name comes
from Ruth Fertile, who bought a small New Orleans restaurant
named Chris Steakhouse, so it's Chris. When a fire forced
her to move locations in nineteen seventy six, her naming
contract prevented her from using the original name, so she
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called it Ruth's Chris Steakhouse.
Speaker 6 (46:26):
That's crazy, mate.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
We've been wondering that for years, and then now we
did it.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Okay, completion, I'm not resonating on a whole different level.
Speaker 6 (46:38):
Now we start over.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
We actually haven't started recording yet.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Yeah, we're good. That's good.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
Wait, what was your third question I was gonna I
was it was going to be like a like a
down the middle, like real music based one here and
this one this, But this record has been out for
a bit, Yeah, Nidy, that's it ready?
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Yeah? Well no, when did it come out?
Speaker 1 (47:01):
Eight months or so? I don't write, ye wait, March,
when they come out, when.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
They come out.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
February came out of February, March, April or May, June, July, August. Sure,
I said eight months. It was six. That's pretty close.
That's pretty good. Do these songs still feel fresh to
you or are you like you have other ones you've
written that you just can't wait to now.
Speaker 5 (47:20):
Know these are the ones we're on. I'm getting very
high on these songs at the moment. Every night we're
playing five shows a week. At the moment I were playing.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
In New York tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (47:28):
I cannot wait to play these songs. So I feel
this is my yeah, one of my favorite thing we've done.
I absolutely love it. And when we were making them,
I was like, these are gonna be the songs that
stay with us.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
You know.
Speaker 5 (47:39):
It's always nice to add to your arsenal of songs
that you can play and choose from a set list.
I remember watching some like Springsteen, I think at high
Part or something and just thinking like he's got so
many songs to choose from that must be amazing. We
hadline glastromy after two albums. I remember my first thought
coming off was like, I can't wait to have more
records to fill the set. Let's start more so It's
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undeniable all the way through, and I feel like this
is helping us get that place.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
It's really love it. Well, I'm a fan, been a
fan for a long time. Kid me, like you can
tell by the music that I like that. It makes
sense that I like you guys, So I'm not just
feeling you that's full of it. Like I just generally
and genuinely sonically love what you guys have always done.
So I'm a fan. It was super cool to have
you guys in. Thank you for having me, and I
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have some jazz to discover tonight. Tim Horton, Tim Horton,
he's a guy. How far back should I go on
the Horton records though.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
I'd say it's eighteen hundreds, Yeah, yeah, okay, it's six
hundred wax cylinders that are just amazing interesting.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
Final final question, what are your thoughts on Winston Churchill.
I mean he's he is one of the greatst isn't
he in terms of our promises?
Speaker 2 (48:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
Yeah, no, he is generally considered to be. I mean,
you know, he had some issues. I don't know any
of that. I just know he's considered great by you guys.
I know we had a cigar. That's so that I
need to know nothing else.
Speaker 5 (49:07):
Well, it was in charge of all efforts in the
second level, which is a big deal.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Do you have any American questions for me before we go?
Speaker 2 (49:17):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (49:19):
Great? Question?
Speaker 2 (49:22):
Going not great?
Speaker 1 (49:24):
Thank you for asking.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
Welcome.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
I would say the worst ever it's been thinking about yeah, yeah, yeah,
I would say the worst it's ever gone in the
history of time for us. Thank you for asking us
a shout? All right there they are great Mumps's Thank
you guys so much. This has been excellent.
Speaker 9 (49:37):
Thanks for listening to a Bobby cast production.
Where's the name come from?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
It's temporary. I drove past the pub where we sat
up our old manager and we talked about the name,
and we were like, well, let's just roll with Muffin
and Sons for a bit because it's like, it's not
like we're going to sound any records, so like tour
internationally or anything like that, because we were a pub band.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Everybody today, big show, the wonderfully popular, amazing sounding Mumford
and Sons are here. Marcus Mumfort, the band's lead singer,
guitarist and drummer, Ben Lovett vocals and keys, and Ted
Dwayne bass guitar, vocals.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
They've had so many massive songs formed in London in
two thousand and seven, millions of records, multiple Grammys, Little Lionman, Jam,
I Will Wait, Jam the Cave Jam. They're back on
the road, they have new music and so here they
are the great Mumford and Sons. Give me thirty second
(01:02):
answers on these. Let's let's just do our history. How
did you guys meet? Well, school, you guys were together.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I met him in the pub.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Okay, what song did you guys record together? Even before
it was released? Where you thought, oh, this might be something,
we might be something that lasts.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
I think it was the Cave that was one that
I remember distinctly, remember white.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Black page demo in your house. Where's the name come from?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
It's temporary. I drove past the pub where we set
up our old manager and we talk about the name,
and we were like, well, let's just roll with Mutherlin
and Sons for a bit, because it's like, it's not
like we're going to sell any records or like tour
internationally or anything like that, because we were a pub band,
and we actually we grew to love it because.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
We're all session players that got fired from our day
jobs and then set.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Out the band No Way.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, And it started to be around the collection songs
that Marcus had and we were very used to like
backing up up a songwriter and Marcus had always been
a drummer and all of these session bands that we
were in, and so it was like a novelty that
Marcus was sort of stepping to the front of the
stage and singing and playing the guitar, and yeah, it
was that was that's why we don't have a drummer.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Did you guys do munch covers. Like when you first
started playing, were you playing You say pub band to me,
I think bar band here where they play covers, covers,
the spots.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
The spots we were playing were like it was more
like the sixties in New York, like the cafes where
you'd come if you had a song. I mean, those
guys played a lot of covers, to be fair, but
it was like if you had a song, you could
jump up and play it and if it was good,
you could play another one. So it's that kind of
atmosphere that we grew up in.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
And then there were a lot less people in the
audience than if we'd done like Sweet Home Alabama and all.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, but that was good.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, it started us. Yeah started small.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Do you think you've ever played Sweet Home Alabama as
a band?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Good question, No, No, we haven't.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
We played a lot of Twain, but we haven't played
We were kind of were talking music before you guys came. Man,
so uh County Crows. That's August and everything after that
album right there? Massive Okay, So Marcus to what you said,
that record, that's my favorite album I think ever of
all time.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
It's very formative record for me. That one why so
I think it was one of the first records that
felt like mine rather than my older brothers, and I
would just play it to death. Missus Potter's Lotaby right, Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
This the one with the fish bowl had Missus Potters lullaby.
Oh stitch up? Yeah, so that was yeah, just handed
over to him. That was round here. That was mister
Jones the radio songs. But it was also like Anna
begins change Me Yes, that one to me. That one
in like this John Mayer record back Here Room for Squares,
Like John Mayer was like the first artist I ever heard, right,
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That spoke for me, because you know, you always heard songs, yeah,
but then finally when someone wrote something and you thought,
I feel that, like that's what John Mayer was had.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
That experience too. It was an age where I really
felt like I was finding my own music. Like you said,
you know, your brother obviously gave you a lot of music.
My sister gave me a lot of music. And then, Yeah,
it used to be a lot more fun because you
had to physically go and discover it in a record
store or whatever. You know, wasn't quite as algorithmic as
it is now.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
So you guys are doing what I do. I know,
I'm starting to be.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
That He's been that guy since he was eighteen years old.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
True, I was thinking about the old days. In the old.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Days, and I've hit him a couple of times, but
they just don't make music like that.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Like I'm that.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
So you had an older sister, Yes, sir, what kind
of music did she listen to?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
She The first cassette she ever gave me was Take
That and Party because she wanted it. But things got
better quite quickly. We used to listen to a lot
of Michael Jackson, which I loved, and then we started
going into a bit more of a grungy world and
we are shared lovers Nirvana a long time.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
You had an older brother, What did he have you
listened to?
Speaker 5 (05:04):
There's a lot of Radiohead, a lot of Radiohead. He
was six years older than me. But he introduced me
to Bob Dylan and that was that was big and
then I was obsessed. We were talking about this earlier today.
I was obsessed with Roger Miller from a very young
age because of the Disney version of robin Hood, which
might be my favorite movie of all time. I had
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a robin Hood club when I was four and my
babysitter was mate Marian.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I also think I had She was probably my first crush.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
But weird.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
You had a robin hood robin hood club. What's that?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Well?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I was like in a robin hood club like I was.
You were a member of a robin hood club?
Speaker 6 (05:39):
How many people were in?
Speaker 5 (05:40):
There was two me and the babysity, but we had
a little notebook and everything, you know. But Roger Miller
really was like my favorite songwriter as a child that
I can remember feeling like connected to his songs.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Did you have older siblings?
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Have three of them?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
And so what kind of music did they have you
listened to before you found yours?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
My sixth birthday party mixtape cassette was fifty percent was
supposed to be a mixtape and fifty percent was rim.
So they were kind of getting me brainwashed on that,
and then I kind of started to veer away. With
three old disiblings, you've got more places to hide, you know,
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you're not kind of their pet. I think these guys were.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
But you did.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Your bedroom in that house was like away from everyone else's.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Right the top floor.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
Yeah, I went on my own journey.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Did you ever go back and have an RAM phase
again as you got older.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Yeah, we actually did on the tour bus the other night.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
We went quite deep. It was it was amazing. We
were like, I think it started.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
With one and then we were kind of an hour
and a half later still of going deeper and what
blew our mind?
Speaker 6 (06:48):
But I think it was a mutual revelation.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
How many records they made before post?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Well yeah, yeah, I think there was, like there was
a lot of albums, there's a lot to go and
there's a great.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I did a whole show on Netflix about greatest alternative
Songs of all time, and I had like an r
M song in the top five, and people were confused.
I say, there's there was. There's no more alternative band
than r M. Like RIM was alternative before grunge. Like
you're getting the two a little bit mixed up. But
what RIM was doing in freaking Athens, Georgia, that was
as alternative as it got. And I've had a couple
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of different times in my life where I've been in
r e M phases Because once I went and saw
him live and they didn't play any hits. Really, Yeah,
will you guys ever do that where you just give
up and play no hits. No we don't do that. God, no,
we don't do that.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
If I went to the show and we're no cool
enough to do that, am can do that?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
No young can do that. I don't know you think
it's main I felt. I felt I didn't need all
the hits. You want to leave Orange Crush out, that's fine,
that's fine. You want to leave losing my religion? Now, Okay,
I get it a little too big, maybe a little
too pop. Give me shiny high be.
Speaker 7 (08:00):
People can give me something version of even or take
one song and put three hits in it and play
a medley just so you can get them all out
of your systems.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, like do that for the fan. Yeah, bless them.
But there's alternate cool.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
They're too cool.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
They got it. What about when you started to pick
your own music? Mark and I'll start with you, like,
what was what's your first own music? What band?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
It was?
Speaker 5 (08:25):
The mis Education Lauren Hill and kind of Blue by
Miles Davis on the same day from the same CD
shop in wimbled And Broadway. When I had a drum
teacher at the time who was like, you're going you'll
play what you listened to? So I need You to
go and buy Kind of Blue by Miles Davis. So
I did that almost as education work, and then I
bought Miss Education Lauren Hill for myself and that was
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that was the beginning of my record collecting journey.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I think were they CDs? Yeah, the juxtaposition of those
two is interesting. The first two CDs I ever bought
were a CDC and Mariah Carey. They go at the
same time, at the same time, Here's what you used
to do, And they had nothing to do with each other,
but it did show that you could kind of have
music taste that didn't quite hold hands. Where were you?
Speaker 6 (09:10):
You know?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
I was big in my teen years, went down a
pretty pop punk world and scar Love, no doubt, But
I actually feel like the first record that I kind
of lived and cherished with was an artist that Marks
put me onto, which was really a Montanne And I
remember listening to Ray's songwriting. We were probably eighteen nineteen.
(09:37):
Marks had been listening to him for a minute and
then it was like, you got to check this out,
and I remember being it was kind of a very
private experience of like really understanding someone's deeply personal truth
and feeling like you can relate to it entirely as
if it was your own. And that was like a
transformational thing because I kind of whether it was blinkin
(09:59):
eight or No Doubt or I'd had moments where I
touched it, but I didn't know what it felt like
to really be in that until rayde Montagne. He really
opened up a whole door of songwriting. I was like,
that was a life changing record.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
What about you? I was just kind of thinking about
it because it is quite scattergun really, I think obviously
my sister and her like the gift of Nirvana weirdly
sent me on like a deep Blues and also like
a led Zeppeliny kind of It was pretty cool. And
then over here in parallel, I had like a very
fearsome new metal obsession of corn and limp biscuit and
(10:40):
all of the stuff I guess my friends were listening to,
which is kind of cool in the late nineties at school,
Papa Roach, Yeah, a little bit, yeah, Oh, I mean
a bit of fear Factory. It was pretty fierce, a
lot of it, soulfly Sepultura, a bit of Pantera. My
first ever gig was oz Fest nineteen ninety eight. You
went to a played I went to. Yeah, I was
(11:01):
a kid, so big.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
For you guys in your version of English, the proper English,
the real English. Does gig mean concert you attend? Yes,
not something you do, because here, if I'm going to
go and.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Play a gig, I got it work, I got work
to do.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
No, gig is something you attend like a concert, yeah,
or show.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Interesting, I'm gonna remember that you're in trouble earlier for
you using the phrase slagging off, which no one understood.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Jacking off, No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
That's what I would have.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Slagging off is insulting behind someone's back. You slag someone off,
you're insulting them.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
That's good to know. Therefore, I don't think someone that's
slagging me off is doing something I yes. What about
if you take the piss from someone.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
It's also not jacking them off. That is, it's a
similar to slagging them off.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Well, so you don't take the piss from them, you
take the piss out of them.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Of them, yeah, or out of them.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, take the piss away from them. But it's pissed,
not urine. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
Yeah, but taking the piss is what is If someone's
taking the piss it means they are taking liberties, they're
going too far, they're taking the piss.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, why is piss involved? I don't quite know. But well,
you know, so you just experienced the World Cups? Did
you not kind of no? Did it sort of pass
you by a little bit. I'm a massive sports guy.
I work for the NFL, and I think after this
World Cup, you guys all big, It's more important than
(12:33):
anything else in my life. Okay, I now think and
I grew up I love baseball. I think soccer is
more entertaining than baseball. And I grew up diehard baseball fan.
Oh wow, Now here's why I think that. Thank you
for asking. Here's why I think that. If you didn't
grow up and every single thing about baseball that can
be so freaking boring. It's really confusing, quite long. And
I think people in the States that watch soccer and
(12:54):
we didn't grow up with it at all, we can
go they don't score a lot, but you know how
long it takes for a baseball Oh my god, I'd
stab my ear with a pair of scissors if I
didn't know what So I feel like I used critical
thinking skills. Well done, and said I think soccer is
more entertaining than baseball all things even, that's.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
A really big deal. Do you think a lot of
people have had that revelation.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
No, I think I'm smarter than see.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
The thing is, I don't think it has to innately
be like a competition between sports.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Just give me more sports all the time. But you
know how we are in the stage. Everything has to
be a list and it has to we have to
compare with them.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
The problem with soccer, as you would call it, is
that it's not a statistician's dream in the same way
that baseball is, because there aren't quite so many things
to put in a data spreadsheet and and build a
sort of data career off because a lot of its
feel and touch and stuff you can't really put into spreadsheets.
Like what Lionel Messi does off the ball, There's no
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way you can put that in a spreadsheet, and that's
what makes it so magic.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
So it's quite anymore off the ball. He's older, so
he's always done stands around. Know, he's always walked off
the boy.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
I saw against Chelsea in twenty twelve at Stamford Bridge
and just watching him off the boy. He don't get
to set on TV because they don't follow him because
he's just walking around and then suddenly he'll run. And
that's the magic of what he can do off the ball,
which is I'm trying to explaense to my wife.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
She's not friends. I did watch more respectfully to you guys,
football than I ever have in my entire life of
this World Cup, probably because it was in the stage
of the time zones. It was a good World Cup too.
You know who I liked freaking Holland.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Yeah, he's very likable, that dude, big leg. Yeah. He
didn't do a lot of right.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
He also exited very well. Did you notice he was
a very good He didn't exited well. That means when
they got knocked out, he was a very magnanimous loser.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Oh yeah. He also before they got knocked out, he
was going, I don't know if we're going to win.
They're better than we are. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I thought that was hilarious.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
He's very funny class So that's him the West Pajamas
everywhere too, see him in silk wherever he goes.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Did you guys ever watch Home Improvement?
Speaker 6 (15:00):
Mm hmm, the movie?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
No, No, I didn't.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
What's he called Tim? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, wonderful.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Chase it Tim Adam Allan, Tim Allen, he.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
Was movie a movie.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
He's buzz light Year, isn't he. Okay, we're boy spreading
right now. Okay now no, no, but you're all right,
you're all right. So Tim Allen played Tim the Tolman
Taylor on Home Improvement. That was a television show. He
later was buzz light Year.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, I did not know it.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Really, that's the guy from Time Improvement. It's buzz light.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Literally, gonna take me weeks to process that situation.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yeah, anyway, where are we going with? He was also
the Santa Claus in that movie. You ever see that? Yeah, sure,
that's a good one. Anyway, on that show, well you
didn't know that either, Ted slipknot mate, that's sorry, stunny brain.
On that show, one of the suns has the Holland
haircut with his hair up like it's the only time
(16:00):
I've ever seen it until he brought it back and
I thought, dang, I wonder if I could pull that
off on my phone. Yeah, Like it's like long and
you shave underneath it.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
It's cool.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
It's quite Viking based. Yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, Ted, your hair is different than I thought it
was going to be.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
What would you change?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Nothing, It's just not what I expected when you walked in.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I'm doing the upside down head trick where you got
more hair down here than.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
But you don't have a You're not losing your hair.
Usually only guys that lose.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Their hair do that. That sounds like quite Is this
an aggressive look?
Speaker 1 (16:31):
No? I just I did that.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I didn't expect the short in the long It's something
I default to when my hair gets to a certain length,
I'll just literally go into the nearest place and be like,
can you buzz this away?
Speaker 6 (16:43):
We like it?
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yeah, a lot of support from I don't not I
don't not like it. I just said I didn't expect it.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
You just referred to it as that which I felt.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I thought it was going to be a little furrier.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yeah, I mean I can understand this.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, so when you walk did and I was because you're.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Worried about me, like I'm having like a bit of
a mid life I'm a fan. I would out I'm
in am I in trouble? I think I'm I think
I'm okay. My personal life is pretty together.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I was just talking about so not not your personal life,
but it was putting me on something. I was just
talking about, there's some tiktoks out there about me now
that say exposing Bobby Bones, and it's supposed to like
be secrets about me, and I've already shared it all,
so you can't really expose anything I've shared. Do you
guys see those videos about you? Ever? That's like the
things you about Munthfort and said you've never even known,
(17:36):
and you're like that everybody knows.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
That, well?
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Are they? Are they out there?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I quit?
Speaker 5 (17:42):
I quit all the social media stuff a while back,
but there was one tweet that I really loved, which
said I have it on good authority that all of
the boys in that band are complete cunts. And I
thought it was And then I ended my tweet career
on just really I saw that and I thought, that's
absolutely fantastic?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Was it?
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Teds?
Speaker 5 (18:03):
And then I've never looked I've never I've never looked
back at it.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Is there anything that can happen to you now that
you would still think is really cool?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (18:12):
We are made because you guys are are your monsters now?
Like you've done it all. I was just kind of
looking to see everyonere you've played and all like the
we finally checked this off the list, like I feel
like you've done it all.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
No, I completely disagree. I think the last year has
been more curious than the first ten years of the band.
It's I think we're more kind of aware of what's
going on now than we were at the beginning, which
makes everything that we're doing seem kind of more insane.
And when we go out on stage and we get
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to do the things that we do, I think there's
like a level of I don't know whether it's like
sobriety or appreciation or you know.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
We were being largely drunk.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
Dad, or I don't know what it is.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
We're just like seeing it and I'm just like, you know,
Marcus said this thing, which I thought was really sweet,
and also I completely understand, which is like he's like
catching up to the fact that people like the band.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
I feel like I suddenly have something in common with
the audience, which is like, I really like this band
as well, but it's taken me a while.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
And yeah, we're more present to.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
It, I think than we were in the early days
and more grateful for I think we had quite a
long break as well, and then we'd come back at
it and felt re energized and just loving and just
really enjoying it, and more than ever so getting to
do it again at this scale because this year's bonkers,
particularly getting to play Fenway and Rigley and folsome Field
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and getting to go deeper into this country and other
parts of the world than we ever have before, and
then most of our friends and bands ever get to.
I think we now see what a unique position we're in,
an opportunity that we have, and genuinely like feeling more
gratitude than we ever have to our audience.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
You know, when you find we're having a laugh. When
you took a break, did you ever feel like maybe
this break is permanent?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah? I think.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
I think we didn't know until we sat down together
to write more songs, and then the song started coming
thick and fast, and within the first few days I
was like, oh, yeah, we're going to keep doing this
for a very long time.
Speaker 8 (20:14):
Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor,
and we're back on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
How do you guys write songs?
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Just PLoP them out just like incubate them.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Do you know what you're doing right? Now you're taking
the piss from It's not fair.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
No, I mean they're all different. We were discussing our
approach that and you know, it's it's funny. Each record
is sort of unique, and I think, you know, it's
it's a bit of a product of like where we
are creatively, who we're working with as a producer. The
last record we made, Prize Fighter with Aaron Desner, was
just like so quick because he really would just come
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out of working with some other producers who had got
us warmed up into like trusting our creative instincts more
and stuff like that. So when we landed in the
arms of Aaron, who has been in a longtime friend
and collaborator, we would just kind of like yeah, teed up,
just to trust our instincts and first idea, best idea,
and you know, be really open collaboratively. I think the
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more open we are, the better the music is and
the quicker it happens. I think sometimes we can get
ring fenced and protective of ideas that we're really proud
of or whatever, when actually that's the least chance of
success that idea is going to have.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
You know what song I loved, I feel like we're
so well written. I'm biased, but the Stableton song, like,
I love Chris anyway personally, professionally, he's an absolute legend,
and so it could possibly affect it a little, but
I don't think it is.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
It does all the way.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
But I think that's such a well written song.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
That's my favorite song we've ever written. I think I
don't think I wouldn't go so far as say it's
the best because I'm not the judge. I can't be
the judge of that, but it's my favorite we've ever written.
I think it says lots of what I want to
just like in the particular moments, says what I wanted
to say. And it was an idea that came about
in my garage and Los Angeles when we were living there,
and we sat down together the first week writing.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Back together after COVID.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
Basically it was like what it was twenty three, It's
January twenty three, and I wrote the verse on this
sort of wobbly la quite cool guitar. Then we came
made a record here in Nashville. Dave Cobb didn't quite
work on that record, and then we took it to
Aaron Destin and he was like, you're overthinking this, like
here the cowboy chords, here's how it should go, and
he was so right, and suddenly it just came out.
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We wrote the bridge and I said, we've got ascended
to Chris Stapleton. We've never met Chris, and I called him.
I got his number and I called him and he
kindly took the call. We talked for like an hour
about everything else other than the song, and then and
then he said, yeah, I jump in and record it
next week. And it was just my dream since the
song had really come about, because I think he's the
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voice of a generation. I think he's a generational talent.
He's one of my favorite voices of all time. And
he had the kind of world weariness that suited that
verse so well that that then when he sang it,
I had to go back and redo my harmonies because
he was, yeah, yeah, he just raised the bar and
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that's what he does.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
And then he went back in.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
And it's interesting that that week, though, when Marcus brought
that song in and you asked before about whether you know,
we ever considered kind of laying our instruments down and
stopping the band. That week was kind of the question
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and that the answer was in the songs. And I
have a very distinct memory when Marcus played here that
it was like, oh, we have a lot of unfinished
business to do, and not only in the essence of
that song, but also the promise of what then became
two albums over the next two years. It was, you know,
we were like stealing away to little coffee spots and
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stuff and Mark's.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
Had a truck. We're driving around truck.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
It was a really beautiful kind of creative spurt, but
also like renew all of ows.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
Where we just were like this, this is what we
should be doing.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
And that's what that song was too. It was like
a drawing a line under the first era of the
band really and like ushering in the next one, which
we're in now. We made two records since then, you know,
we're doing more shows than we've ever done before and
absolutely loving it. But that song felt like a punctuation
mark on his everything that came before, and then like
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ushering us into a new thing. But then it came
on the second record, which so it was it jumped
around like the timing of the release of it.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
But that's what because you get recording it because he said,
you kept having.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Coming in.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
I'm a big fan of Gracy Abram as well. She's
on the record. How did that come together?
Speaker 5 (25:17):
She was upstairs Electric Lady the day we were still
finishing Rushmere, which we made with Dave Cobb here, and
Aaron and Gracie were upstairs writing and Aaron Texas said, oh,
hear here in the building, come say hi. So they
came down and we played them a couple of things
from what we were finishing up on Rushmere, but then
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Aaron was like, Gracie went, and then Aaron was like,
let me play a couple things.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
I've been working on.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
I was thinking about you guys, and he played It's
the beginning of the Badjo Song and Prize Fighter, which
were two songs that we finished and we're actually the
first two songs we started really for Prize Fighter. And
then Gracie was working on something upstairs asked me to
come up here it and I ended up singing on it,
which is what If It's Right, which is on her
new record, and then she came downstairs and heard us
writing the first lyrics on Prize Fighter, and then we
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just kind of stayed in contacts in each other bits
of music and lyrical ideas, and she became like a
kind of fairy godmother for this record. She's sort of
all sort of midwife for it because she watched the
whole process and was really encouraging all the way. You know,
we've known her for a long time and just love
us so much. She's wonderful.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Is it weird? People are just discovering you guys for
the first time. That's very exciting to me. That's cool.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
I think we all did it with other artists, and
you forget that, you know, you don't have to be
there at the beginning. There's a lot of musicians who
I found out about in their fourth, sixth, eighth album.
And then the best thing is that you get to
go backwards. You don't only have to be there at
the beginning for the bragging rights to your friends to
say I was you know, I think it has become
maybe more of that than ever is like the kind
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of discovery validation or kind of the cutos that comes
with that. But we see our shows a lot of
the time because people are getting younger and younger at
our shows and you're like standing there on stage, you're
looking out, you know, this person was probably not born
when we were starting the band, but that's really cool
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to us.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
I feel like for those that are watching that maybe
twelve sorry about the sea, bumb about that now, let
me cut that bat. They did Netflix Kids, so he
got automatically believed on that. Yea. When you talk about
artists that you kind of get into later, when you're
talking about that, I think for me it was Tom
Petty that like probably when I'm finding my own music,
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and that Wildflowers album came out and they're so much
great before and I'd known a couple of songs, but
just from the radio. Yeah, but I fell so in
love with that album just You Belong Long and everything
about them that I went and it was a deep dive.
I learned everything, I bought everything I possibly could, and
I was twenty years twenty five years late. I was
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like that.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
With Willie Nelson, Tiatro really got me into him, and
that was late because that record came out in like
ninety six and I didn't hear it till like properly
dive into it for twenty years after that, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
And with Willen I went backwards. It's like a songwriting, yeah,
because his voice are so distinct. Absolutely, but it's a
songwriting for me. They go like he was just ahead.
I feel like he was ahead of everyone. He kind
of set the rules for everyone else. What about you, guys,
who did you find later?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
I'm not racking my brain. I'm so up with contemporary sunce.
I'm late to every party. So it's all. It's all
very novelist.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Who's your favorite of all time right now?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Like band or just one am listen to?
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Who creates music that is your number one?
Speaker 2 (28:52):
I'm like a Bill Evans obsessive at the moment. If
I'm at home, I'm listening to music, it's almost certainly
Bill Evans.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna jazz. I was going
to be honest enough to go, I don't.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Know what that is.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yeah, you should check him out. He's really good at
the piano. But he's going to check him out. No, No,
I'm being Jimmy serious. But I almost confident that you
probably not.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
You don't going to check him out, no judging.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
We're very exlectic and excellent taste display checking out the elevens.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
I thought that was you remember his name is?
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, what's the place in Canada where you
go and you get to the donuts and stuff Bill.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Bill Ye, Bob Bob Evan, Bob Evans, alright, Yah, that's
his brother, got mixed up?
Speaker 1 (29:40):
I thought you Jim Horton's yeah, or Tim Horton, Tim
Holtons Horton, Jimmy's We're getting there, We're getting there, okay,
Tim Allen. Just the question is, the question is who
did you get into late?
Speaker 2 (29:59):
You want?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
You were so moved by it, you wanted to discover
everything about them.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
I think it was Stevie Wonder.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
I think Stevie Wonder, Stevie Wondering a couple of bands
when we were eleven years old. Totally, But you didn't
hated it, no, no, no, no, no, I was.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
I was then there was so much as such a
rich catalog to like actually just got better and better
over the next ten years.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
And I think.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Any really, anyone who's older than us, you could say
that you were getting into late in your music evolution.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Right.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
But the question of who do I think is the
best ever?
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Who is your favorite? That's a weird question. Best ever?
Who's your favorite ever?
Speaker 4 (30:41):
And I like how you qualified it as today, But
I think it's probably Bonnie Raite because we were talking
about Can't Make You Love Me? And yeah, just just
like there's like there's some people and maybe Carold King
as well as another one who did like a deep
dive on recently, who just are sow quality for such
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a long period of time. Doesn't feel like it was
like a moment that they just held onto for dear life.
It was just like quality songwriting consistently, you know, writing standards.
Those are like aspirational people.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
What about you favorite?
Speaker 5 (31:22):
Ever, it's still ready ahead, but Bruce Springston comes in
close second.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
See I never got the Bruce thing, did you not?
But the people that I respect do So I have
that respect because the people that I respect the most
as songwriters and as just musicians or creators, they love them.
So there's something that I'm not smart enough to get. Huh.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
I'm a bit like that with Rim like a lot
of my favorite musicians, favorite band, and I've never really
done the ram thing fully.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
What is it respect? What is it about Bruce?
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Do you?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Then?
Speaker 5 (31:55):
I mean just the sheer volume of bona fide amazing
songs that he's written and the fact that he continues
to push creatively I just really admire his career arc
over everyone else's.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I think because he's.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
Like weather the storms of being cool and then not
being cool, and then like appearing in an older kind
of legacy space and then coming up in the middle
of a protest movement and popping up and playing with
Tom Morello. And I just think he's I think he's Yeah,
I think he's one of the truer artists.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Ever watch The One Man Show on Netflix or went
saw it?
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
How it was incredible? It was incredible. Yeah, I saw
it when it was on Broadway.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Did you eversee Hamilton?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (32:47):
And I'm going again on Friday.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
In New York.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Why because my kids got it. When I saw it,
I went early. I didn't know they weren't going to talk.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
I find that challenging with musicals in general, and my
wife will fight me tooth and nail on this one.
But I'm like, when you're having to sing the story,
I think like it's compromised your story and the singing. Yeah,
I'll just take a little break, tell us what's going on,
and then have another sing.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
But we'll give Hamilton.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
They for Hamilton's amazing. No, Yes, but I didn't know
they were never going to talk. So I'm going and
I'm by myself. My agent's like, hey, you want to
go to Hamilton and get you if you went on
your own. Yeah, I was in New York for work
and major I was like, you should go, I get you.
We'll get a tick in our box or whatever. So
I go and I sit down and they start and
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it's cool, and it's like, Yo, we're Washington.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
D C. Here we are. Here's a dollar everybody.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
And I'm like all right, or I'm trying to keep up,
but they're going to talk soon and tell me what's
going on because I'm lost. And then they go to
the next song and they're like find and fore Father,
found of fend of fore bothers. And I'm like, oh
my god, okay, after they never stopped about halfway through ago,
they're never stopping.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
I have to focus, Yeah, you do, have to really
never stop, and then you go away. I think the
first time I saw it, I was just impressed by
the whole thing. I didn't really understand what was going
on a lot of the time, and my knowledge of
that part of American history what I think of as
a temporary tax rebellion is you know, is not deep?
And then I went away and listened to the soundtrack
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so much that I now am really excited to go
back and watch it again.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
See I know all the words. Now, yeah, exactly should
we go?
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I'm good? Yeah, okay, but.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
You need to spend time with the kids, so I'm
going to respect that. But I yeah, I didn't once
I understood it was better to me.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
What percentage of speaking would have made it make more
sense to you?
Speaker 1 (34:51):
I just needed like every three songs to give me
a brief overview of what was just rapped about it,
or if someone would have said before before you go in,
they're never going to talk as an expectation management thing. Yeah,
like when I saw Kinky Boots, they talked, they sang.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
I caught me up.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
It was awesome. It was so good, But I just
didn't understand. I was just I was stunned when I
went in because I was like, are they not? And
I gave up a little bit. I was like, I'm
just gonna wait for the songs over. Then the next
one started, okay, but it was you're right, do you
guys feel like you're our daddy? You won't England.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Do you guys feel like you're o a dad and
like we were.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Talking about the temporary text Redlan yea, yeah. You see,
I was fishing and I didn't get a vision and
I was like, that's boring coming back around the boat.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Do you kind of feel like, you know, you're a dad?
Speaker 5 (35:44):
No, I feel like an older cousin, but kind of
like you know, I mean the position of authoritsy sure.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
You know what I like? I like, you know, I
was born here, I do in California, Yes, sir, Yeah,
I was told that today due citizen A bit of both.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
What age did you leave? Six months only counter soccer here?
Came back every Well I could be I could run
for president, you can not for NFL. Came back every year.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Well, we have a player on our on our US team,
our team this year. Yeah, he was His mom was
he was born here by kind of by accident, but
he had to play on the team because he's a citizen.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
Hold On, hold On, born here by accident? Yeah, what
does that mean?
Speaker 1 (36:32):
It means she was pregnant and wasn't planning to have
the child here in the States. Had the child here
in the States, and then he's got.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
A very very London accent. I'll tell you that it's great.
I'm slightly annoyed that he's classified as an American for
soccer purposes as well as passport purposes.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Well, I could play for the US team.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
I could, as long as I hadn't played for the
English team beyond a certain level. I think it's like, yeah,
technically yet, but yeah, no, you're right, yeah I could.
I could complete in lots of different sports to represent
the United States of America all anyway.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
I just want to know if you guys always feel
like you're a dad. No, I don't think we feel
like that. We're a very very very small country. But
we took your language, you did, and you did certain
things with it that have been regrettable. But otherwise, you know,
I like in my five and in my six, that's cool.
There was so there was just a BBC article about
why the M I M I six is such a
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like obsession around the world. It's why why did it say?
I didn't read it.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
I just saw the headline, but it was a picture
of Jane's bond in some iteration, and it's probably why. Yeah,
I like excellent marketing from them.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
I like it because it's easy. In my five domestic, yeah,
I six International, CIA, like we have FB, I, C A.
We got to describe what each.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
Of them means.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Sure, I like in my number systems, well yeah, like
elevate a bigger number more like yeah, yeah, yeah, we
need to add here we have different letters, you know
the difference in fantastic? Uh what do you guys have?
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Like? What?
Speaker 1 (38:17):
No, don't, I'm not. I'm being with you of the
UK at this point in time. Thank you for asking.
You're welcome. So here's what I thought was crazy. Yeah,
go on, you have buildings that are just chilling. Double
the age of our country. Yeah, until I went over
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the first time and only went over because the episode
of Friends where Joey goes over great episodes. A wedding,
I take the Rachel and Emily's up there. It's like,
oh my god, you guys seen that Friends episode.
Speaker 6 (38:55):
You went for a friend's wedding. You went over for
the TV.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Show Friends, and then you can't in London because you wanted. Yeah,
we're gonna rewind it perfect. So in the show Friends,
there's a wedding and they go to London for the wedding.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
Are you in the episode?
Speaker 2 (39:11):
No, but I loved it.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
She was saying it as if you were.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
I never went. I grew up so poor, I never
went anywhere, and so when I made money, I'm going
to where all the TV shows are. So I went
to Hawaii for Brady Bunch, I went to Japan for
Full House, Jesse and the Rippers. When I went to London,
I went to London for friends, not my real friends,
but for the TV show Friends, and then I take
the Rachel but it was Emily good.
Speaker 6 (39:40):
So where did we go for him? Improvement?
Speaker 1 (39:42):
So we don't different universes, but the buildings in the
Age of Things really put into perspective how young of
a country we are because you guys have and have
held on and have taken care of things for things
so much longer than we existed. That's my takeaway. When
I left it, That's what I thought about. There is
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some very old share around your house.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Quite old, isn't it, Well, it's my old's really house.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
Mothern Ted hanging in there doing great with the interviews
and that.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
I just thought it'd be furrier, and be honest, I
just thought it would be fair.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
You know I did. It's yeah, it's on the Yeah,
it's on the beach.
Speaker 9 (40:25):
Now the Bobby Cast will be right back. This is
the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
I got three final questions. What's a home show? What
where do you go? When it's a home show?
Speaker 2 (40:46):
London?
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Like park, You'll be in to California, probably New York City,
is it?
Speaker 4 (40:53):
I was explaining someone that I've lived in New York
longer than I lived in London.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Wow, you really true?
Speaker 6 (40:59):
Sorry?
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Yeah, that's mental, that's crazy.
Speaker 5 (41:02):
I mean, I think the band haven't been formed in London,
makes London a particularly homie type show.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
But there you go a bit of everything.
Speaker 5 (41:12):
When we go to Singapore, Ted often tells us how
he lived in Singapore right for seven years?
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Seven years quite a long time, he really did. Yeah, Yeah,
I don't know what you anymore. You can mess away
like I don't know if you. I don't know Bob Evans,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
He's great sex player.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Yeah, no, piano player. And you're lying there now, I
don't know. I'm looking up. I gotta know before in
this in a minute.
Speaker 6 (41:39):
But hold on, Bob, Bill Bill put it.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
I never imagined driving a stake of mistrust between us
Bill Oh.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Bob Evans in a restaurant Evansimi Jim Hortons piano player,
all right. He died in nineteen eighty. He was an
American jazz pianist and croposer who worked as the leader
of his trio.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
That's right. Also play on kind of bly he did,
indeed good knowledge.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
Legend question two of three before we wrap it up,
what song does the crowd sing that allowed us back
to you?
Speaker 6 (42:22):
It depends where we are.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
He doesn't believe you. He does not believe you.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
He's a real skeptic, true.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Skeptical.
Speaker 4 (42:32):
I feel like we've been around for a minute so
that the band has had different impact at different times
at different parts of the world.
Speaker 6 (42:39):
Yeah, that's truality.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
We kind of emerged like go to Australia, Little line
Man all day long.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
America is probably I will wait, partly because of the
Grammys moments. I don't know, but it does change. And
then sometimes we go to parts of Europe and our
third album was like the one that we made a
lot of sense to people. So it's kind of fun
for us because the set list emphasis changes. Well than
having that one song, we've never really had a hit,
(43:08):
so we're kind of among well in that way, you
don't think I do.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Think you've had a hit based on today's definition of
a hit. Maybe on ten years AGO's definition, I could go,
I understand that, but today's definition, I would say you
you now, I have had many hits.
Speaker 6 (43:28):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
Oh no, you don't need me.
Speaker 6 (43:32):
Waiting for someone.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
I just because there's a difference in what is a
hit today, because a hit today is just getting enough
eyes and ears in any capacity whatsoever, to be compelled
to care. Yeah, like if you can reach a threshold
of people that care about a song.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
Which is effectively like cultural residence, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
That is a hit. And I don't think that was
considered a hit ten years ago because it was just
a chart Yeah.
Speaker 6 (43:58):
So we for sure never had a chart topping song.
Easy to make the weird.
Speaker 5 (44:02):
Charts, yeah, loads of the weird chart ones, loads them.
But it's so confusing that I don't know, I mean,
you know, I sometimes I mean, who's into the chart thing?
And I'd be like, yeah, like nineteen number ones, and
I'm like, what what do you mean? And then they
name some sort of niche category, sort of sports Christian rap.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
In that case, I've had a few hits myself. They
have a you've probably won a number of Grammys. No, whammys,
I've won. Yeah, they're close, bigger yeah. Me and Bob
Evans were the leaders. Ye, Jim Allen Yeah, Timton yeah
yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 6 (44:43):
No, it is Tim Morton?
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Is it Tim Morton store? Right?
Speaker 5 (44:49):
The restaurant, it's a It's a coffee shop, that's all
all Adport.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
I can't get out of my head. It's one of
the Canadian coffee shops. I know it from being in Canada. Yeah,
me too, but I can't remember what it's cool is.
I think it's Tim Horton. I think it's Tim So
that was right.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Can anyone explain to me Ruth's Chris Steaks? I can.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
I can explain it through it, man, Let me explain
it to you.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
It freaks me out. Oh my god. When I this
is me.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
When I was twenty two, I thought to myself, when
I have enough money, I'm going to Ruth Chris every
week because that is where people with ties would go.
And I always wanted to go eat where people with
ties went because they had steaks with like butter. They
didn't need steak sauce, So that is I mean, I was.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Really inquiring about the name itself, because yeah, yeah, Ruth's plural.
Let's look it up before we go. Created one more thing.
It doesn't make any sense. I need the entomology.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Okay, I'm just gonna say, who is Ruth Chris? Ruth's
it's Ruth. Who is Bill? It's a woman? Okay, here
we go.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Would you say Ruth's Chris?
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Okay, No, I think you said her real name. There's
no single person name Ruth Chris. Instead, the name comes
from Ruth Fertile, who bought a small New Orleans restaurant
named Chris Steakhouse, so it's Chris. When a fire forced
her to move locations in nineteen seventy six, her naming
contract prevented her from using the original name, so she
(46:22):
called it Ruth's Chris Steakhouse.
Speaker 6 (46:26):
That's crazy, mate.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
We've been wondering that for years, and then now we
did it.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Okay, completion, I'm not resonating on a whole different level.
Speaker 6 (46:38):
Now we start over.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
We actually haven't started recording yet.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Yeah, we're good. That's good.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
Wait, what was your third question I was gonna I
was it was going to be like a like a
down the middle, like real music based one here and
this one this, But this record has been out for
a bit, Yeah, Nidy, that's it ready?
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Yeah? Well no, when did it come out?
Speaker 1 (47:01):
Eight months or so? I don't write, ye wait, March,
when they come out, when.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
They come out.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
February came out of February, March, April or May, June, July, August. Sure,
I said eight months. It was six. That's pretty close.
That's pretty good. Do these songs still feel fresh to
you or are you like you have other ones you've
written that you just can't wait to now.
Speaker 5 (47:20):
Know these are the ones we're on. I'm getting very
high on these songs at the moment. Every night we're
playing five shows a week. At the moment I were playing.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
In New York tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (47:28):
I cannot wait to play these songs. So I feel
this is my yeah, one of my favorite thing we've done.
I absolutely love it. And when we were making them,
I was like, these are gonna be the songs that
stay with us.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
You know.
Speaker 5 (47:39):
It's always nice to add to your arsenal of songs
that you can play and choose from a set list.
I remember watching some like Springsteen, I think at high
Part or something and just thinking like he's got so
many songs to choose from that must be amazing. We
hadline glastromy after two albums. I remember my first thought
coming off was like, I can't wait to have more
records to fill the set. Let's start more so It's
(48:01):
undeniable all the way through, and I feel like this
is helping us get that place.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
It's really love it. Well, I'm a fan, been a
fan for a long time. Kid me, like you can
tell by the music that I like that. It makes
sense that I like you guys, So I'm not just
feeling you that's full of it. Like I just generally
and genuinely sonically love what you guys have always done.
So I'm a fan. It was super cool to have
you guys in. Thank you for having me, and I
(48:26):
have some jazz to discover tonight. Tim Horton, Tim Horton,
he's a guy. How far back should I go on
the Horton records though.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
I'd say it's eighteen hundreds, Yeah, yeah, okay, it's six
hundred wax cylinders that are just amazing interesting.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
Final final question, what are your thoughts on Winston Churchill.
I mean he's he is one of the greatst isn't
he in terms of our promises?
Speaker 2 (48:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
Yeah, no, he is generally considered to be. I mean,
you know, he had some issues. I don't know any
of that. I just know he's considered great by you guys.
I know we had a cigar. That's so that I
need to know nothing else.
Speaker 5 (49:07):
Well, it was in charge of all efforts in the
second level, which is a big deal.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Do you have any American questions for me before we go?
Speaker 2 (49:17):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (49:19):
Great? Question?
Speaker 2 (49:22):
Going not great?
Speaker 1 (49:24):
Thank you for asking.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
Welcome.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
I would say the worst ever it's been thinking about yeah, yeah, yeah,
I would say the worst it's ever gone in the
history of time for us. Thank you for asking us
a shout? All right there they are great Mumps's Thank
you guys so much. This has been excellent.
Speaker 9 (49:37):
Thanks for listening to a Bobby cast production.
Host
Bobby Bones
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