Singer-songwriter and American Idol winner Chayce Beckham sits down with Bobby for a candid conversation about the road that changed his life. He opens up about the drunk-driving car wreck that happened shortly before American Idol, why he didn’t think he had much of a future at the time, and how getting the call for the show gave him a new direction. Chayce also shares the story of marrying his longtime girlfriend in Las Vegas with an Elvis impersonator, what he’s learned after a year of marriage, and why he decided to take time away from music. Plus, he looks back at the success of “23,” starting over in Nashville after winning Idol, and the next chapter of his career with his new project, Old Fashioned.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Should we go to the chapel and get married by Elvis?
And ever since then it just kind of stuck. We
thought it'd be fun. I remember, like we paid for
the package and they said how many songs do you
want Elvis to sing? And I was like, well, not
really any like I just wanted. I thought it was
like we walk in, do the deal, and walk out
and they're like, no, well it comes with songs, and
I said, well he could sing one song, so we
get there. He sanging like thirteen songs. No wait, yes,
(00:30):
it was crazy.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Hey, guys, Bobby here today. Chase Beckham. You can know
him for a lot of things. He had a number
one song called twenty three, which crushed. Maybe you know
him as the guy who won American Idol and he
was the first person ever to win with an original song.
He's got over a billion streams, great songwriter, a reputation
as a really wonderful singer, and he's got new music.
(00:57):
He's got a song called Dirt Floor, which we'll talk about,
and he's get ready to release his new EP, Old Fashioned.
He's out, he's touring, he's doing dates with Cody Johnson,
he's doing his own thing. I really like this guy.
And I know I say that about a lot of people,
but if I don't say it, that's who you.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Should look out for. But I do like this guy.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Here.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
He is Chase Beckham, Chase, good to see you.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Good to see you. How you been been good? Busy? Busy?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Busy?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Actually not work wise this year. I took a lot
of time off this year and kind of been settling
into a new house and hanging out with my wife
and you know, doing stuff at home. And then I'm
just now getting back out on the road.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
So okay, let's talk just home life. Then.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah, so you have a new house. Is it one
of these houses that you bought and you have to
fix everything?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Not necessarily, there was some things. We bought it as
is because we got it at a good price, but
there was a handful of things that we had to fix.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Like what do you know how to do? What do
you know how to do in a house to fix?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I used to know how to do all of it, well,
I know, And.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Your story is I definitely want to go back and
talk about, like because you worked on big machinery, that's what,
But like, what do you know how to do inside
the house if it's broken.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Basic stuff like handyman stuff like I can do drywall,
I can. I'm I'm not good at electrical stuff. That
that stuff I still kind of stay away from. But
you know, anything drywall, painting repairs. You know, I can
do stuff like that around.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
But you'll call an expert if what isn't working.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Oh, you usually have to call an expert because I'm
not you know, if I'm on tour or something your home.
But if I'm at home, I'll call someone for like
ac or plumbing. I can't do plumbing, none of that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I only know how to do things that have broken
on weekends and I couldn't get someone to fix it,
and I had the emergency to learn how to fix it. Yeah,
like that's the limit of things I know how to
do in a house. I at one point, something's wrong
my with my washer, and I go back behind the washer,
and you know, they have like the red and the
blue and the little turney handles probably not their real names,
(03:02):
they're actually called Turney handles. But I learned if you
don't shut the water off first, it floods the house.
Just if you just pull the hoses out it. It's
a tough way to learn, so I learned, so I know,
if it has anything to do with water, I'm calling
an expert electrical and water, I'm calling an expert.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I'll calling someone in for that kind of stuff. If
I can like look it up on YouTube and like
watch a video and if I'm like this seems within
my means, then I'll try it myself. But uh, we
got a guy who came over and did a bunch
of the stuff for me because I was still kind
of in and out doing a bunch of stuff. And uh,
we're between two houses. Whenever we first bought the house,
so uh, and we were doing a wedding, it was
(03:41):
like there's a million different things going on. So it
was just easier at that time just to have someone
else come and help me out. But yeah, it's been
good man, just kind of you know, working on everything
at home and getting settled in. You'd think like spending
some time, i'd have like my stuff more together. I
feel like my life is more chaotic now that I've
had time at home. So uh, it's just it's you know,
(04:02):
roll with the flow and just getting older. How long
you've been married now about a year now.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Okay, Yeah, what have you learned about yourself?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
About myself? Oh? Man, that I that I talk too
much sometimes I don't know when to just quit it?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Is that because she tells you sometimes that's just because
I know, you.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Know, I'm like, uh, there's little I think, the little
like marriage arguments that you get in sometimes and it's
just like to me, something makes perfect sense, and I can't,
you know, make that make sense to my wife. And
sometimes I'm just like, I don't know why I keep
on trying to die on this hill. So I've learned
it just kind of yes, honey, you got it. But
(04:41):
we've been together on and off for like the better
part of thirteen years, so we know each other extremely well.
And I think us getting married and uh, you know,
like the biggest part of that was buying a home
together and kind of just like opening up this next
chapter of our life.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
There's a difference though, yeah, for sure, and being together
for however long and on and off and actually getting married.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
And you know this now.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Because my wife and I lived together before we got married,
and a lot of that was COVID based, because everybody
just kind of moved in together and she was living
in California at the time, and COVID is only going
to last a week. So she moved here for a
week and ended up staying. And so we lived together
and we live very tight because COVID, we don't you
can leave the house or you're going to die.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
You breed that air, you die immediately.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
And so what I've only been married five years and
I have learned those lessons, but that's about year one
lessons for me too. But I think the lessons now
that I have through marriage is I really pick my
battles and I don't even need to pick battles that
I want to win. There are sometimes where I feel
(05:52):
like I'm really right, but it's just not worth it
for the fight, and that is not me. I'm such
a challenger. I'll challenge anybody about anything.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
And with my wife and.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I said, you know what, I'll underneath, I'll take the
loss and I don't even have to say and I
there's and also some stuff is just not worth fighting about.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, exactly, I think that. You know, it's it's definitely
like you feel a strength in the commitment for each other,
like after you do get married, it's not just like
you can pack your bags and go.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
It's hard run away.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
It's it's like, you know, we're in this together, and
this is we chose to do this. And but you know,
I have an amazing wife who just you know, is
loved by everybody around us. And you know, she's often
anytime I take her somewhere, she's the favorite, not me,
you know, so it's like, oh, yes, she's She's just
fantastic and I'm lucky to have her, you know, and
(06:43):
especially having someone that I knew. You know, we started
dating when I was seventeen, so it's like way before
any of this stuff, and you know, she knew me
through like every phase of my life, and for some reason,
we just, you know, kind of kept clinging to each other.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
What would you say is the best quality about you?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
She'd probably say, I would I would imagine she'd probably say,
like my calmness whenever stuff gets crazy.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
What would you say the best quality about her?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Her ability to put up with me when come.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
On, so patience is something. But what would you say
the best quality about her?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
She just has the biggest heart. She loves unconditionally, and
you know, she she does so much for other people, Uh,
hardly ever thinks about herself. So she's always doing things
trying to make other people, you know, make make their
birthday the best birthday. Or you know, if we have
nieces and nephews come over to the house, she buys them,
you know, toys and presents and stuff. So when they
(07:42):
open up the room, there's it's like Christmas in their form.
And she's you know, always running around doing a million
different things because oh, I got to get this ready
for so and so's bridal shower for the you know,
baby shower. And she's kind of just you know, very
selfless in that sense where she just really unconditionally and
uh yeah, I think that's probably my favorite thing about her.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Is it hard for you to be loved unconditionally?
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I don't know. That's a good question for me. It
was there's, like I think with me, she definitely has
some conditions, you know, but uh, like we've been through
it all. So there's so many things that we've experienced
as a couple that uh, you know that we have overcame,
you know what I mean, and decided to fight through
and decided to stick it out, and uh, you know,
(08:32):
but there's definitely there's definitely limits to that that kind
of thing. And I think with her, it's just, you know,
I'm grateful coming home and having someone that wants to
spend time with me and wants to hang out, watch
a TV show or watch a movie, or go swimming
in the pool or you know, go take the dogs
for a walk or whatever. Like just having a companion
(08:53):
somebody who you know, she'll tell me when I'm wrong,
you know what I mean. So it's not like there's
like it's just all sunshine and rainbows and everything thing,
but uh, definitely, definitely it was hard. I think, you know,
I tried to be single for a little bit and
it just it wasn't something that I wanted to do.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I didn't really I couldn't find anything that I you know,
wanted to to engage in really, you know, And so
we kind of just and I know that she did
the same thing too, whenever we split up, kind of
during like the American Idol time, and at one point
we just got on the phone and we're like, you
want to just try this out, you know, once you
come out to Nashville and we'll do it again. And
(09:29):
then we were like, yeah, it sounds good. To me.
So here we are.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Where did you guys get married?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
We got married in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Oh that's not what I thought. The answer we're going to.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Be We got married in Vegas by an Elvis impersonator.
No way, Yeah it was. That's so awesome. And then
we did a big reception out here in Old Hickory.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
So how do you plan the Vegas Elvis impersonator or
did it just happen while you were out there?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
It almost happened one time while we were out there,
and then we were like, no, let's plan it and
actually like just you know, make the to make it
cool so our family. You know, She's like, my grandma'll
be so mad if I get married and she's not there.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Her grandma came out to Vegas for the Elvis in
person Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Her grandma, step grandpa, our parents were there, my sister
and uh that's about it.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Okay, So when did it almost happen and why didn't
you go through with it?
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Was because you got closer. She's like, I want to
have the wedding with my family.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
She was, yeah, just saying like if I did this,
like you know, my grandma might not speak to me.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Were you talking about it that morning out of nowhere,
was like we should just get married.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
No. I think we were at dinner drinking and we
were like, hey, should we go you know, should we
go to the chapel and get married by Elvis? And
ever since then it just kind of stuck. We thought
it'd be fun. So I remember, like we paid for
the package and they said how many songs do you
want Elvis to sing? And I was like, well, not
really any Like I just wanted. I thought it was
like we walk in, do the deal, and walk out,
(10:51):
and they're like, no, well it comes with songs, and
I said, well he could sing one song, you know,
And so we get there he sanging like thirteen songs.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
No wait, yes it was.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
It was crazy. So I'm just standing up there like
waiting for her to come walking down the aisle and
he's just like up there singing to me, and I
was like, this is I didn't think that this is
how this is turned out. And I'm like keeping, you know,
my dad's in a suit and a cowboy hat, just
looking at me like all serious, and I'm just like
what did I get myself into? It was a very
(11:22):
awkward and funny whole thing. You know, but everybody was there.
It was cool. You know, it was really pretty. My
wife looked beautiful, of course, and uh she came out
and he's singing to her. She's coming out, And what did.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
He sing as she came down?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I Uh, I can't help but fall in love with you?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I think, yeah, why.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Why? It was good. But he was doing like karate
kicks in front of my face and everything, and I
was like, yeah, what's going on in here?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Man?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
This is crazy. It was like in a shopping mall too.
It was like a weird little chapel, but it was
really cool. We had. It was like memories that you know,
we'll have forever. And we rented a like a convert
bull sixty eighth chavl where, you know, after we got married,
driving down the strip and uh, it was just like,
you know, something that you'll remember for the rest of
your life.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
That's such a fun story.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, it was a cool, cool little wedding. And then
we did kind of a small reception out here in
old or Old Heckory and that was cool too, just
like all family and friends and close. It was super
tight knit. I think might have been about one hundred
one hundred and twenty people there. That was it?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
All right, let's go back. Let's go back to you.
Did you graduate high school barely?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
I graduated from continuation.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
School, Okay, tell me about that.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Uh well, I just they didn't They didn't like me
very much at the real high school, so they sent
me to the bad kids school. Why. I was just
you know, testy. I was a class clown. I like
to poke fun at my teachers and make everybody laugh.
And which is you know, how I am now and
how I was. It's like totally polar opposite, like I'm
not anywhere near you know, thank god. But I was
(12:58):
just super loud mouthed, talking to everybody, very social, you know.
And uh so I'd get kicked out of classes and
mouth off to a teacher, say something stupid, and then
you know, after I think probably like ten or fifteen
visits to the principal's office, they just said, hey, Chase,
you know, we're gonna send you to to the the
other school over there where you'll get more attention from
the teachers. Okay, cool.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
So what's continuation school like?
Speaker 1 (13:23):
So it's a classroom. You're basically in a in a
class you got I think we had like four or
five periods. Our day was shorter, and you're in a
classroom with like the same kids like all day long,
almost because there's only so many kids in there. And uh, yeah,
it was it was interesting, you know. I don't I
(13:45):
don't want to you know, I'm sure it's great for
some people you can actually learn there. I just didn't
want to learn, you know, and there was nothing that
any teacher could do to fix that. And I was
kind of on my own little little bad path. So, uh,
you know, you can get away with a lot at
a continuation school. You can say things in a classroom
that you probably would never you know, you'd get expelled
for saying that in another school. So like language wasn't
(14:08):
off limits. They wouldn't punish you for cursing or anything
like that, so you could talk kind of how you wanted.
And we had a class that we took like every
two weeks on Thursdays. It was called Smoking Cessation Class.
So for all the kids in the school who smoked cigarettes,
they would take us to the separate class and we
would learn about the Tobacco Settlement and all the things
(14:31):
that the big tobacco companies said about their consumers, and
they would teach us, you know, the dangers of smoking,
because everybody in the you know, in high school smoked.
So that was interesting. That was never at any other
school I ever went to.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Did it make you want to smoke glass?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
No, No, not at all.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I thought you were going to say, they'll let you
smoke in class, Like, No, not in class.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Not in It was a class that get us to
quit smoking because we would all walk off because at lunchtime,
if you had perfect attendance, you could walk down to
the Carls Junior on the corner and get lunch. You
had thirty minutes to go get lunch and come back.
And so everybody wanted, you know, to get perfect attendants
so they could walk off, go have a cigarette at
lunchtime and get a spicy chicken sandwich.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
So what was the plan for one school was finished?
For you?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I didn't know, you know, I didn't have a plan
that was very much. I thought something was going to
work out for me, you know, and that was kind
of always in the back of my head. I wanted
to be a musician of some sort, so I went
through several phases of that. When I was nineteen, I
started my first band. Right after I got out of
high school and started playing shows, and I was working
(15:42):
just like regular jobs. I worked at a like a
snowboard surf skate shop for maybe like a year or two.
I don't know how long. I did handyman stuff is California, Yeah, yeah,
roofed houses, all kinds of audend jobs just to get
by so I could. I didn't want to take on
a real job because if I did that, then I
(16:02):
wouldn't be able to go play on Friday and Saturday nights.
You know.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
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Speaker 3 (16:21):
So when did you first start to play music at all?
Were you doing that in high school? Any?
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah, Yeah, I started. I picked up a guitar. I
was a big kid. But when I was about three
three four years old is when I started becoming obsessed
with guitars. And I just I got one when I
was I think I was about three years old and
my grandmother got me the first one. And it was
a small, little, you know, small body nylon guitar, and
(16:47):
I took it, took it home and just never put
it down. I was just fascinated by it, you know,
And then as I got older, I would listen to
the radio and the songs would come back round on
the rotation. I would oh, I kind of learned a
piece of that one, and so I pick up my
guitar and try to figure out the rest of it
as the song will go on. Because you know, this
was before YouTube and you could watch a video on
(17:08):
how to play a g chord and stuff like that.
So I just kind of figured it out and taught
myself how to play guitar. And I'm still like I
got I got pretty good at one point, and then
I just I've never honestly got better. I'm still right
there at that one point. And but yeah, that thing
was like my best friend whenever I was as young
as I can remember.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Almost were you the kid that played music when you
were twelve years old? They know you for that.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I was just I was a good guitar player.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
People knew you played guitar, Like, oh, the kids in
school knew you play guitar.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, like I played at church and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Like, so was the goal then to play music for
the rest of your life. I'm not saying do what
you're doing now, but just somehow play music forever.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, I thought that that. You know, I was always
into Uh. I failed every class in high school. There
was another reason they kicked me out. But except for
English and history, those are the two classes that I
always excelled in. Really well. I would do bad, you
know with homework and stuff, but I would always pass
my essats by benchmarkside because I did pay attention. I
just didn't turn into work. And uh, yeah, it was
(18:10):
just something that you know, I knew I loved writing
and that I liked creating stuff and making stories up
and creating. You know, I love reading books and watching
movies and all that stuff fascinated me. So you know,
I wanted to be a movie star like Johnny Cash
or or like any of those guys who I really
looked up to. I was fascinated by all that stuff.
(18:31):
I knew that I wanted to do something like that.
I just didn't know what it was going to be.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Did you ever play any shows while you're in high school? No,
so that part of you didn't exist yet, where you're
out hustling a little bit.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
That that was just you know, I played, Uh, I
played with the church a little bit and I played
in my room.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
So you finished school and you start to play some
shows you're also working full time.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
What are the first gigs that you get?
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Bars and backyards, you know, like people would go play
someone's party for free, you know, and that stuff wouldn't
paid or nothing, but we would play. At the time,
my girlfriend worked at a bar called Callahan's in Irwindale
and it's kind of like it's a dive bar, just
like right off the highway, right off the two ten,
(19:17):
And we were able to get in there as you know,
not being twenty one, because my girlfriend worked there. So
we'd go play shows there and dude, we'd you know,
we'd get a bunch of people to come. And so
as soon as we started making some good money for
that bar, they'd call us back like every month and hey,
you guys want to come back and play again. So
we did that kind of stuff, played all over Orange County,
(19:41):
you know, and just you know, a lot of alleyways, backyards,
just random you know. But if I didn't even know
when I went to American Idol, I didn't even know
what any your monitors were, or that people played shows
with monitors facing back at them. We were playing speakers
bakers going out, and I couldn't hear myself sing, you know,
And so that's kind of where I cut my teeth,
(20:02):
was just singing as loud as I can and kind
of got that raspy voice from doing all that I
think and from drinking and smoking and partying. But it
was definitely trying to holler over these speakers every night,
I'd lose my voice. Wake up the next day I
couldn't talk. But you know, just some of the best
best times in my life.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Was there ever a point nineteen twenty twenty one to
twenty two whatever that you stopped playing music for a
while because you had the thought of I have to
do the mature thing and just focus on a job.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
No, And at the time too, like you know, that
was that was hard to like maintaining my relationship with
Ashley at the time, because I didn't want to commit to, like,
you know, going and working a real job and taking
p tests and doing all those kinds of things that
come along with it, and so I put it off
as long as I could, And you know, it was
(20:55):
really just focusing on going out and playing my music
for people and going to rehearsals and scraping up money
for you know, rehearsal spaces. That was always a big deal,
trying to find enough money so we could go play
somewhere in practice. But it never never really left my mind,
not at any point that I think it wasn't going
to happen or it wasn't going to work out. And
it happened in a way I didn't you know, expect
(21:16):
it to at all. But I think there was a
lot of points along that road where you know, people
around me were kind of like, all right, you know,
like go get a job.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Well, it's such a pipe dream.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Anything creative, anything in the arts at all, should actually
never happen for anybody. If you're just looking at the odds.
This is a numbers game, because everybody wants to do
it because it looks fine. Yeah, And it's not always
the most talented people that make it. It's people that
have the ability either very much learned or some innate talent.
But it's also people that just don't stop, right, Like
(21:48):
you have to have the screw loose inside of you
to not stop whenever this seventy third bad thing happens
to you, right whenever the one hundred and second rejection
happens to you.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
So a screw's got to be off.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Everybody I sit with and talk with and myself included,
something is off, just a little. But it's got to
be the right thing that's off, because all of it's
got to mix. There's got to be the right the desire, tenacity,
there's got to be a willingness to adjust and kind
of and also to to continue.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Learning and not think you know everything because I think
we've both been in the stage. We got to figure
it out.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Right, Yeah, like I got it? Yeah, Yeah, I gotta.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Figure it out. How am I not bigger than I am?
I gotta figure it out.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Were you guys trying to make it as a band
when you're in California?
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Did you ever feel like you were getting close?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah? I did at one point because we were at
that point we were kind of like a rock and
roll reggae band, you know, when I was playing like
like reggae music. We played this one big show with
a bunch of the guys from like like sky Opie
Ortiz who's from Long Beach dub All Stars, but he
was like the artist for Sublime. We opened up for them,
you know, and he's the dude who tattooed that big
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son on Bradley's back and album. Yeah, and he drew,
he drew all that, and so we opened up for them,
and like when we did that, I was like, man, like,
we must be getting you know, we're knocking on something.
And uh, the band kind of just self destructed, you know,
and then I had to like recreate, you know, with
new people, try to keep this thing alive, and then
it just never it never really worked out. And uh
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at that time, I had taken on a job at
a different company, at like a full time job, and
uh doing what the machinery stuff. That's when that all
that kind of.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Started off, Well was that job exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
So I worked for the United Rentals and uh so
we would supply construction sites with all kinds of machines
stuff that they need to build you know, uh, hospitals, apartments, houses, whatever. So, uh,
my first job there was running all the equipment on
and off of the trucks. So they have these big
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dovetail flatbed trucks and uh they got a ramp that
pops up off the back and so I'd be driving
you know, four like big old for cliffs, back skid steers, excavators,
all that stuff, and you know, running it, making sure
that it was good and everything worked on it, changing
out the attachments on them, you know, and then I'd
stick it on the truck, strap it down, and send
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the driver on his way. So I did that for
a while. And then at one point I was driving
around in a truck, a small not like a Class
A truck. When I was driving around like a small
flatbed truck delivering equipment to job sites and stuff. And
I worked behind the counter there. I was a counter
sales rep, so I kind of I did everything over
there at one point.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Did you ever get for clif certified?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Oh yeah, yeah, you have to be for cliff certified.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Respect for somebody who's forklift certified.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
That certification walks in because not everybody's certified, only a
few people getting the forklift.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Yeah. When I moved to Nashville, I was fur cliff certified,
aerial lifts certified, and uh CPR certified. Those were my
three certifications.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
My step dad, I drove a fork left for thirty years.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah, I mean I do miss driving them like that
part was fun.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah. He was one of the only few that was
certified at his job at the mill or in his department.
So I mean a lot of people could have probably
got in the forklift and forked the lift.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yeah, but you had to be certified. Yeah, and so
they kind of treated him got precious at times.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Oh yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
So to me, it's funny because I never get to
talk about a forklift certification, But when you're talking that,
I was like, Oh, I wonder to taste the fore
Cliffs certify that's what.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah. No, they're a big company. So yeah, everything is
very much so by the book there and safety courses
and all that, and if you're doing anything unsafe, like
you can get fired, you know what I mean. So
it was like you knew every day someone could be
watching you from the office, so everything that you did
you try to, you know, be really careful about how
you did it. But we had this old old forkliff
that was awesome. It was a deuce on and it
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had you know, you could move the forks apart up
and like tilt them to do everything. It was like
the most maneuverable forklift and like it was a piece
of crapty but like everybody loved it, so much that
we just kept it right. And then that was like
the one that I was on all the time. I
miss it.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I had to get my CDO once really, Yeah, I
knowed you'd be impressed.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yep, that's tough. Yeah, my dad's a truck driver.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yeah, it's It was the hardest thing, not only to
get it, not only to do the written part of
the test.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
That's hard.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Why did you? Why did you get your CDO?
Speaker 3 (26:20):
I'm just a dude that does dude stuff. Why else
would I look at me? Is there anything more dude
than a guy? And way too expensive tennis es in
a card?
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Again, there was like an opportunity arouse where you had
to have it.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah, there was. I had a show on that Geo.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
When I left Idol, I went to go do the
show on that GEO, same company, Disney.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
They said we got the show for you, and so.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I went over and I had to get a CDO
because I had an episode where I had to drive
an eighteen wheeler across the city and deliver. And it
was the most pre work I've ever done, because you
don't just.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Show up and get your CDO right.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah, No, that's a lot of I had to study
the book for weeks, and I'm good.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
I'm studious. I love it. I love studying. But I
didn't even know what some of that stuff meant. I'd
never even been in one. When I took the written test,
I'd never been to an atheine wheeler. And then you
have to take the actual test where you're driving crazy.
And then I had to drive. I had to drive
through Chattanooga one side to the other. It's insane.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I'm gonna tell you what I learned about that people
don't respect truckers as much as they should know.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yeah, for two reasons.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
One, our country doesn't run without goods being delivered, absolutely
from one side of the country to another. We just
go to Walmart and get our stuff and go home,
not knowing.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Just magically appears on the shelves, right.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
So that's number one.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Number Two, At any moment, if that truck veers into
you because you did something stupid or you hit it,
oh yeah, you know who gets hurt real bad? The
car and people are just won't cutting it. And so
I'm nervous because I'm driving this massive machine. But I'm
not the one that's gonna get hurt. These stupid cars
cutting me off. They're gonna lose, and I don't want
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them to lose.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yeah, it's like, no, just don't do it, dude.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
That'll like respect. The truck driver's a massive hue. My
butt's never been more puckered.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
And I've done some crazy stuff, but driving a semi
through a city in rush hour, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
That's nuts. I wouldn't even want to know. I'm good nuts.
I hate driving anything, to be honest, that's too big.
Like I don't even like driving my truck through a
drive through.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Ok.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I feel like I'm.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Gonna whenever check listen too. I get nervous in an SUV.
I'm like, oh, go on, my land's tight now. Yeah,
So imagine me and an eighteen wheeler.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yeah, that's insane.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
So you and I have a little bit of history
that I met you on American Idol. I was working
on the show when you came on the show, and
they give us a little brief before you meet the person.
But for me, I never wanted to spend time with
anybody until we were on camera.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Which is how I even I do the show. Heck,
it's how we did this.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I don't really like to do a lot of talk before,
because I feel like you get a lot of like
real stuff that gets own to the wayside whenever you're
just waiting.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, instead of being like, oh, I'm gonna save that.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Yeah yeah. And I don't want to have to be
like save exactly.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
And so we got into a pretty good rhythm on
that show, and I really enjoyed my time there. And
I remember when you were coming on and we were
like on a farmer, no man, not a We were
somewhere the first time we met where there was like
a pond and a fence and we're like.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Standing on the fence talking about one four clib.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Driver to one CDL driver to another, and but two
certified dudes just being men. But I remember them talking
about you and they said, man, this guy's real good.
And I said, okay, you told me that about every
single person. They said, no, but this is different because
he doesn't know he's as good as he is, and
also he doesn't know how to control it yet. Meaning
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how they had described you was you're so good, but
you've just kind of been wild out running doing your
own thing.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
And like you said, you didn't know you never used interior.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Monitors and that you had a great voice, but that
you were just one hundred percent yeah. And I remember
hearing you seen the first time, and I was like,
they're right in both ways, Like this dude's awesome and
always gonna kill himself if he keeps going this hard
all the time. Because when you're was doing shows and
you're hustling like you are, you have to go hard.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Yeah all the time.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Absolutely, And you came on that show and you kind
of took the wind out of a lot of folks
because you were also just so different.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
And that's that's all we talked about.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
The first time we talked was like, you had a
real job, and does your dad die right before there?
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Are you are? You know?
Speaker 1 (30:20):
I was in a car that you that was in
the car wreck?
Speaker 3 (30:23):
How close to the show were you in that car wreck?
Speaker 1 (30:27):
So from the time that I auditioned in OHI uh,
that was about two weeks before it was that recent. Yeah,
which is why I thought it was crazy for me
to go. You know, I told my parents because at
the time, your.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Dad's still alive. Yes, ca'se dad? Sorry about that? Got
it confused?
Speaker 1 (30:46):
No, Yeah, we're good, right, Okay, My grandpa died a
little bit before he was kind of also, you know,
like very much of a father figure to me. But
uh no, I had gotten that car wreck, and uh
it was you know, a big legality thing for me
because you know, I was drunk driving and so I
you know, got arrested and lost my license. I had
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to call you know, United Rentals and tell them, hey,
I can't come to work.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Were you already going to be on American Idol when
that wreck happened?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I think I did a I did a regular like
online audition right before it, and then they had called
me afterwards after the wreck and said, hey, we want
you to come and do an actual audition for the
real judges because I sang for the producers.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Did you have to tell them what had happened?
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yes, because after you get a golden ticket. So this
whole thing was crazy. I had gotten in the wreck,
went home, you know, because me and Nashley at the
time had just broke up. So I was going through it.
You know, we've been seven years strong. At that point.
We were living down in Huntington Beach and I was
back up at my mom's house and my stepdad's up
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in the desert in Apple Valley and living there again,
and uh, there's nothing more worse than going home, you know,
like tail between your legs, like it didn't work out
and I need, like I need a place to stay
kind of thing. And uh my parents were like, well,
as long as you're working, you know, you always you
always have a place here, and you could stay here.
And so, uh, my band was kind of not happening anymore,
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and I didn't know what was going on. I didn't
know what was going to happen for me.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I was waking up at four am to go to
work and you know, working until six o'clock in the
evening and getting home at seven point thirty. And just
I was pretty miserable at that point in my life
and uh, you know, being without Ashley and just kind
of going through it, you know and young and stupid,
and so uh I went out one night and did
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what I did, and you know, totaled my truck and
it was pretty brutal, but uh made it out alive.
And my parents when I got back, we got that
phone call, you know, and I'd spend a couple of
rooms or days just in my room, kind of just
like hiding away. I didn't want anybody to know, you know,
I didn't want my dad to know. I don't want
my friends to know. I was like, nobody can learn
(33:02):
about this. This is so embarrassing, you know. And and
they came in there one day and they're like, hey,
you know, we got call or email or whatever from
the people at American Idol and they want you to
go do the audition for Luke Carry and Lionel And
I was like no. I was like, I blew it.
Guys like, you know, this is MyD I was like,
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I don't. I'm just a bum. I don't know what
I'm going to do with my life, but that's not
what it's going to be. And my stepdad sat me
down and he was like, Chase, if you don't do this,
He's like, you're throwing away, like such a good opportunity
to put this behind you and just change your life,
you know, and go do something and make a name
for yourself. He's like, I believe that you can do it.
I was like, I'm not going to win that show, Terry,
you know, it's not possible. I was like, you hear
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I heard the other kids singing in the audition waiting rooms,
you know, on the zoom calls and stuff, and I
was like, I'm nowhere near these guys, Like, you know,
I can't sing that well, and he was like, no,
I think you can. Like you just need to trust us.
He's like, well, we'll rent a car and your mom
will drive you up there and just go do it,
you know, and just see what happens. And he's like
if it doesn't work out, he's like, we will figure
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all this other, you know, stuff out whenever you get back.
And so you go and sat there all day waiting
and I was just nervous as can be. And I
was like one of the last ten people to go
in that day. So you kind of sit in like
this grass field all day, just waiting to you know,
for them to call your name. And so it was
just nervousness building up all day. And I went in
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there and I got three yes's and a golden ticket.
And I remember in my head, to me, that was
like this tiny little crack in the door that I
had been trying to kick down my whole life. And
I finally saw like a little bit of light and
I was like, you know, I'm gonna wedge my foot
in here, and I'm going to get in and so
I called my step tout. I was like, can you
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believe this? Like, you know, I made it. I got
a gold ticket. And he's like, yeah, I told you
that you could do it, you know. And he's like,
this is what I've been trying to tell you, you know,
just have some confidence and stuff. So then they pull
me after that and they take me into into a
waiting room and they say you have to talk to
a psychologists and a lawyer basically, and they just kind
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of make sure that you're not crazy, you know, before
they put you on national TV. And so one of
the questions they asked is they say, have you ever
been arrested? You know? And I'm sitting there like there
goes my shot and I was like yes, and they're
like when when did you get arrested? And I was
like two weeks ago? And what did you get arrested for?
Do you I They're like oh wow, and okay. They
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finished asking the questions and then a producer came over
to me after that and said, hey, would you be
like willing to open up about that kind of stuff?
And so me, I'm, you know, just trying to save
that light, that little crack in the door. Yes, sure, absolutely,
I'll talk about it. And so I was surprised that
they let me keep going on, you know, because I
(35:57):
had all this other stuff going on in the background.
But yeah, that's kind of how that whole experience was
for me, is I was like, this is my chance
to finally get away from, you know, all these stupid
things that I've done and make something, you know, for
myself and and be proud of it. And so yeah,
I just every week prayed that I would make it
one more week, one more week, one more week, you know.
(36:18):
And then I got down to the end and it
was WILLI and Grace and I was like, yeah, I'm
not winning. So I was blown away. Whenever it kind
of all you know, played out the way that it did.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the
Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I really enjoyed the show at that time because it
was way less about, hey, this is American Idol.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
It was more about everyone knew that just being on
the show longer built a platform for themselves.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
And that's what I was trying to do.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Yeah, and I think everybody even knew that there was
an understanding of you just you stay on the show.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Not to be the next American Idol. Whatever that means.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
You're staying on the show because you have seven eight
million eyeballs watching, and every week that you last, it's
another week that you get people to see who you
are and see your music.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
So that's how I thought that it was going to go.
I said, if I could just make it to these
live shows where like I'm on the live tapings, I
get to play with the band live and stuff. I
was like, if I get to do like one or
two of those, like maybe somebody will see me and
I'll get a phone call like hey, we want to
sign you a record deal with this and that. And
so that was my goal, you know, And even though
that was a pretty childish thing to think was going
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to happen, but I just wanted to make it and
build a platform and get some people to see my music.
And that's why it was, you know, kind of important
for me to sing some of my own songs on
there and do stuff that I had written, because that's
what I felt like I was good at. I was like,
I'm not a great karaoke singer, so all the covers
that I had to do, I was kind of just
like how can I make this work for me? But
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they were kind of enough to let me sing a
couple of my own songs on there, which I feel
like really made the difference from me.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Oh yes, it's why you won the show.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Yeah, getting to connect with people with stuff that I
do well, you know, like twenty three started on idol
and why I've written it, you know, months before all that.
But uh, and I had no idea how big of
a hit song it was going to be. But whenever
they asked me, hey, have you written any of your
own music, and said, yeah, absolutely, here, I sent him
a file and they were like, man, some of these
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are great. This twenty three song is great. You should
save it, don't release it, you know, on socials or anything.
Until you make it to the top seven. You can
record this, you know, You're get to go and do
like a little recording session. That's how I met Ross
Kapperman was he was the producer out there.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
So, uh, that's crazy because Ross is one of my
dearest friends here. Yeah, like dearest dearest friends. Yeah, he
was out there.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
He was producing in Los Angeles. Yeah, yeah, it sounds city.
I think it was how all this.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Stuff ends up getting together is so weird.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
When you won the show, I was surprised, not because
of how good you were, because you were very unconventional,
that's all. That's usually not the most unconventional show. And
I can tell you some behind the scenes drama that
was happening is that you were singing originals. Because you
did a couple originals. I'm not sure how many you did.
I can think of too.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
I think I think it was two. If it were,
I think it was two.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Since you were doing it, everybody else wanted to do it,
and they wouldn't let everybody do it. Yeah, you kind
of had to have something about you, and they wanted
to hear their music first. And I just remember everybody
being upset, even asking me off camera, like how do
I get to sing an original? And I just kind
of wanted to say, well, do you sound like Chase?
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (39:38):
And they didn't.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
But that says something to even who you were as
an artist. And you had put in all those hours
playing all those backyards and bars.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, rehearsals, and I wrote all. I always
wrote my music. You know, we rarely if I played
a show back then. I didn't do covers, you know,
so I was singing because if I wrote something, I
was proud of it, and I wanted to play it
for people and be like, hey, what'd y'all think about
that one in the middle of the set, you know,
do you think that was a good song or you know,
and if nobody liked it, then I'd throw it out
and write a new one. And so I was like
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a writing machine back then because I was having to
come up with stuff for my band to play. And
you know, when my band kind of dissolved and me
and Ashley had split up and you know, my whole
life kind of went south, that's when I kind of
leaned into the more country, you know, red dirt stuff
is what I was listening to, Like early Zach Bryan
(40:29):
and Tyler Childers and Colton Moore and the clever few
Pikos in the Rooftops. Guys like that were all like
in rotation on my playlist, and so that's really what
inspired whenever I was sitting down I wrote twenty three
was all those guys that I was listening to then,
because I was like, you know what, why don't I've
been trying this thing and it's not working, Like and
(40:50):
I thought, how crazy would it be to go country
and do country music? And you know, I grew up
listening to country music. My mom's from a small town
in Oklahoma, and all of my whole side of the family,
you know, over there, that's it's all very much. You
get anything from trailer trash to high class redneck, but
there's a there's a lot of that was influenced on
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me when I was a kid. And the reason I
didn't think it was cool in California was because I
remember everybody used to one time of year get all
gussied up in their boots and go to stagecoach and
everybody was and I remember I just hated that for
some reason whenever I was younger, and it kind of
turned me off of country music. And because whenever I
was younger, everybody it was like, oh, country's not cool,
(41:33):
like put on rock and roll radio or whatever. But
I loved it, and that's what I grew up on.
So I found myself falling back in love with all
these old songs that I listened to when I was
a kid, hearing on the radio, like George Strait, you know,
Timma Grawl and Keith Whitley and stuff like that. And yeah,
I was like, you know what, I'm gonna try it
out and see what happens. I sang a Hank Williams
(41:56):
junior song from my mom, and she was like, you
have to do it. She's like, you absolutely have to
do it. She's like, I think you sound great doing it,
and uh, I was like really. So it was kind
of a wild thing for me to do. You know.
I still feel like on the show they wanted to
classify me more as like a rock kind of guy
or like alternative between. But what I wanted to sing was,
you know, mostly the country music and stuff and play
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with the steel guitar on stage and uh yeah, like
that was kind of my goal. The whole time I
was on there. I didn't know how it was all
going to shake out. Who does who does?
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Literally I don't know how it's going to shake out
next week?
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
So when did you move to Nashville.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Weeks after winning?
Speaker 2 (42:35):
What was So it's kind of a you're at the high,
you just win this show.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Everybody's congratuate back paths for everybody. Yeah, you get here
and nobody cares yeah, and not just you.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Yeah, Well you get on the road and you get
humbled real fast, show up play for fifty people in
a five hundred cap room, and you're like, you're starting over.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Yeah, you're starting over.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
The good thing about you is that you you're not
You weren't starting over from doing a television show. You'd
notn't even doing it. Yeah, like you had all those
years of that. To me, the television show isn't the
biggest part of your story. To me, the biggest part
of your story is you learn how to do it
doing it, and then you just waited for an opportunity
to take advantage of, to get more people to see
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what you could already do. Like, that's what I think
about when I think about you. I definitely don't think
you're a product of a TV show. Even though you
won the freaking show, which is crazy cool, I don't
think you're a product of the show. I think the
show just gave you a lane to show what you've
been working towards for so long. Yeah, you get to Nashville,
what's that like?
Speaker 1 (43:38):
It was crazy man, meeting a lot of people who
seem like they wanted to meet me, you know what
I mean. So it was, you know, going to meetings
and stuff and you know, bumping into people and just
getting introduced to this exec and that exec and this
guy does this and this guy does that. I didn't
know what any of these jobs were, you know, before I, like,
(43:59):
you know, I was driving forkliffs and I didn't know
the structure of a of a record label or how
all that stuff works, or how publishing works.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Yeah, or the manager or how they're different, or a
business manager like all that is exactly baptized into this
place and you're expected to act like you know, until
you figure it out.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Yeah, And so it was it was a little you know, overwhelming.
But I met Carrie. She came to one of my
is your manager? Yeah? By manager, she came to one
of my uh first performances. I did a whiskey jam,
and uh she had We've gotten in touch through my
stepdad called her and was like, Hey, I want you
to represent my steps.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Hold on a minute. Your stepdad called one of the
those powerful, powerful managers in Nashville. Yeah, and said, I
want you to represent my steps on straight cold.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
How it went?
Speaker 3 (44:48):
Yeah, And so what's the story you heard about how
that went?
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Uh? No, that's what I wasn't a part of that.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
Say what do they say in the office. I don't, well,
you left me a message.
Speaker 4 (45:03):
Voice and I was like, oh my gosh, because I,
you know, obviously was on set with another client during
the whole show of American Idols the whole time I
was bought in the chase.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Oh yeah, she kind of knew who you work there.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
So when he called, I was just calling major managers,
going you represent my son.
Speaker 7 (45:23):
You know, He's literally googled who managers Luke Bryan and
he found Carrie and then just started dialing numbers and
then finally gets in touch with her and he calls
me and he's like, hey, I just talked to Luke
Brian's manager.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
She wants she wants some manager to I was like,
what are you talking about. I was like, that's crazy.
I was like, okay, sure, Terry. And then, you know,
sure enough. When I first flew out to Nashville just
to visit UH and kind of meet everybody at BMG
and everything, that's whenever she came out to one of
the performances I had, and she was just doing everything
(45:55):
like first, like the first time I had ever met her.
She came out and was like organizing the lines to
the meet and greet and taking people's phones and taking
pictures and everything, and she just handled the whole thing,
and me and my mom were both there kind of
just like, you know, this had never happened to us
before we got you know, two hundred people standing in
line wanting to take pictures after I get done singing
and stuff. And so we left that night and I
(46:19):
told my mom was like, I think that lady might
be my manager. I'm not sure. I was like, but
I feel like that's how this is going to work out.
So we went to dinner you know, later that week,
and then you know, had a great conversation and then
kind of just ended up. You know. She called me
and she's like, hey, I'm down to do this if
you're down, And I was like, yeah, absolutely. She's the
only manager I met with. I didn't go meet anybody else.
Speaker 5 (46:39):
Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor,
and we're back on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
Did you think you were gonna get here and be
famous immediately?
Speaker 1 (46:57):
No? Uh, I thought we were going to take one
of my songs to the radio a little faster than
we did, but uh, because it was you know, it
was doing great and I thought it would have been
a hit. And then the funny thing is is two
years later, that's the song that we took to the
radio and got a number one with. But no, I
didn't expect instant you know. The way I looked at
it was I've been competing against all these fantastic singers,
(47:20):
you know, and great musicians too. But now that I'm here,
I'm competing with Luke Combs, Morgan Wall and Luke Bryan,
you know, everybody, George Davis, Parmally, all these guys who
are crushing it on the radio. I was like, I
have to figure out how to get my songs past
theirs now, Like, and that's a whole new level of competition,
(47:40):
Not that I think about it competitively or anything, but
that's kind of just I was like, you're with the
big dogs now, and it's definitely not going to be uh,
it's gonna be harder, you know what I mean, It's
gonna be a lot harder. So I knew what I
was in for whenever I started out.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
Did you have any moments while you were here early
on that you thought maybe this place was too big
for you?
Speaker 3 (47:59):
Now know, you always believe it was gonna work. That's wild.
Even through all.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
This, I still I still believe that, you know, like
my best time hasn't happened yet. Like I still believe
that something else is going to you know, go.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
On if that you should.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
That's not crazy exactly, but it's like I still just
you know, anticipate and and I don't expect, but I
try to put the work in and believe in it.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Where did that come from? Where's the positivity come from?
Speaker 3 (48:23):
Or the optimistic outlook?
Speaker 2 (48:24):
I should say more than positivity, where's the optimistic outlook
come from?
Speaker 1 (48:27):
It's just hope?
Speaker 3 (48:28):
But who what? What?
Speaker 1 (48:29):
Hope?
Speaker 3 (48:29):
Somebody in your family? I don't know this way and
instill this in you.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
Yeah. I had a cousin who wanted to be a singer.
It never worked out for him.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
Uh was your Were your parents optimists? Did they tell
you things are going to work out? No?
Speaker 1 (48:47):
Not in that sense. They definitely were pretty realistic with
me at some points of time like that, you know.
But the idle thing was, you know, kind of like
them telling me not to give up on my dreams
and that they knew that I was capable of it.
I just needed the right opportunity and you know, for
some reason that all unfolded right in front of me,
just the way it needed to and at just the
(49:07):
right time. I you know, it saved my life in
a way, because it's like, if I kept doing whatever
I was doing, then man, I don't know, you know,
where i'd be right now, or if I would even
you know, be working like everybody at what would you
be doing? You know, I'd like to say i'd be
working blue collar, you know, doing construction or working heavy machinery,
(49:29):
and but I don't, you know, if I was doing
what I was doing, then you know that I could
either be dead or in jail or I don't know.
And there was a time whenever I was young at
that age, I thought thirty was turning thirty was never
going to happen, Like I was like, you know, and
I was cool with just being wild and free, and
I was like, oh, you know, if I smoking and drinking,
if I die really or whatever, you know, And now
(49:49):
I'm thirty, and I'm like, dang, you know, I wish
I would have taken care of myself a little bit
better back then and would have saw some of this stuff.
But then at the same time, if I didn't have
those experiences and do those things, I wouldn't have been
put into that position to be where I'm at now,
you know, And so it all just kind of happens.
I don't believe that it's all going to work out
(50:10):
the way that you want it to, but I do
believe that everything is going to work out the way
that it should, you know. And if you, you know,
have a good heart and good faith, and you know,
like I lean on on on my Bible and my
family and that's kind of you know, where I get
any of my optimism from.
Speaker 3 (50:30):
So that's the answer.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
Then, Yeah, just family and faith and just hope and pray.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
Old fashions and name of the record that's going to
be coming out? Why did you choose that?
Speaker 1 (50:41):
So it was kind of just like I didn't know
what I wanted to name the EP as far as
like I didn't have like a theme or anything like that.
And it's one of my favorite songs on there, and
we've been promoting the song on the road for like
a year and a half, and so I just figured
it deserves its time. It's you know, having Itself is
a title, but it's one of my favorites on there.
(51:02):
I think it's a very cool self explanatory song about
me and my values and what I love.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
What about Dirt Floor song.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
Yeah, that one, it's kind of like, I think the
most obscure one that's on there. You know, it's it's
just a little it's a little different. It's got like
this different, like smoky western field to it, and it's
different than anything I've ever done, I feel like. But
and it's just a moody song. But it's a love song,
you know what I mean. And it's like something that
(51:32):
normally you'd be singing on that kind of a melody
would be more of a breakup kind of feel, but
it's about falling in love with someone. And so I
think it's it's just very different from anything that I've
done in that sense. But uh yeah, I wrote that
with with John Pierce and Brandon Kenney and those are
two that they're common themes on the on every cut
(51:55):
that I have. I'm writing with those guys all the time.
So we just wrote it on the bus. I think
we're up for Park mccollumn that weekend when we wrote it,
or it might have been something different, might have been
Warren's Eiders but yeah, I wrote it, recorded it and
just loved it, fell in love with the way that
it sounded. It's the opening song on our on our
set right now.
Speaker 3 (52:15):
Oh that's cool. Yeah, what's the final song on just
set twenty three?
Speaker 1 (52:19):
Yeah, it kind of has to be, you know.
Speaker 3 (52:23):
It's like you could play at the beginning in the end.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
Yeah, but I'm not a fan of that. I like
the show to be a full experience of you know,
music from one one one end to the other. I've
seen people do that. I've seen people I like people
do that. I've seen someone play their hit three times and.
Speaker 3 (52:39):
I don't I'm honest, I don't mind it. I love it.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
Once this is way way way back in the day,
so before your time. However, you will probably know the
band because you're pretty knowledgeable. But there's a rock band
called Sevenmary three in there from the nineties and they
have a massive song called Cumbersome. And so there's video
that these guys and they're playing in a small club
and there's a guy in like the second row. There's
(53:05):
not a lot of people there, and he's there. He's like,
play Conversome and so they're like, Okay, they play another
song it goes play combersome and the singer.
Speaker 3 (53:17):
Goes, dude, that's our hit.
Speaker 8 (53:20):
We're going to play cumbersome. You gotta wait a minute.
I've said that exactly, so you think we're not going
to play comver some So, yeah, twenty three has become
like my freebird. Like it's like that's when I hear
the whole dang show. It's just you know, I played
twenty three. I'm like, I just started, We're going to
play this song. I got an hour and fifteen hour
and twenty up here. We'll get there, I promise.
Speaker 3 (53:41):
Is it exciting to have a whole bunch of new
music coming out?
Speaker 1 (53:43):
Yeah? It is. Like I said, I took a little
bit of a hiatus, Like last year we put out
I only put out two songs last year, you know,
and that was because we were so busy touring off
of twenty three and bad for me. So it was
so hectic, you know, doing in one year Europe, the
next year Canada, Uh, every state you can think of,
(54:04):
and h I played every state in the continental United States,
every I played everywhere but Hawaii, you know. So it's like,
I don't know if that's ever gonna happen. But it's
been It's just been a crazy, you know, journey of
touring and being different places and learning things on the road,
and then UH kind of just got sidetracked from like, oh,
you know, actually I need to go to the studio
(54:25):
and record some music. I need to get back to
Nashville and write some songs. But I was hardly ever home,
you know, So I only put out two songs last year,
and then uh got married, you know, bought a house
and me and my wife moved in, and a little
bit before that, I've been going for about two and
a half years, like NonStop, like January to December, touring,
(54:48):
and towards the end of last year, I called Carrie
and uh my booking agent, and was like, hey, I
can't do January or February or March. It's like I
just need some time to be at home. And see,
I just took some time at home cut this music
in December, you know, and went in the studio and
cut it in December with Bart Butler, and then just
(55:11):
worked kind of mixing it while I was at home
and going through all the production side of things, and yeah,
I finally got it mastered and then finally got, you know,
back out on the road, and then just really excited
to finally be getting to put it out. I've been
feel like I've been working on it for a long time.
Speaker 2 (55:27):
So we asked people to come in and bring music
that means a lot to them, an album that means
a lot to them. And I see you have a
vinyl here, would you might hold that up at the
camera and showing him what it is.
Speaker 1 (55:38):
This is Jim Crochey. This is one of my favorite
records of all time. It's one of my wife's favorite
records too. Uh one of my this is like so
this is after he passed away, they put together this record.
I have one of the original releases of it that
that's what I was, you know, playing on. Actually I
do have two of these because I bought one at
a garage sale that a couple of years ago. But
(56:00):
this one, it's got all his best hits. My favorite
is operator.
Speaker 3 (56:06):
Good. So I'm a massive Jim Crochey fan.
Speaker 1 (56:08):
Yeah, so my wife got into this because I got
into it. One of my aunts in Oklahoma gave me
the record whenever my grandma had passed away. She's like, Chase,
you like this he's he's a old hippie and he
sings all these great songs. And I was like, okay, cool,
and so I took it home and played it, and
it's like, man, like I'd never heard you know, I'd
heard some of his songs and movies and stuff, but
(56:28):
never really dove into him as an artist. And yeah,
this became like one of my most prized possessions.
Speaker 2 (56:34):
What about him as an artist? As a songwriter, do
you think that you resonate He.
Speaker 1 (56:39):
Was a phenomenal songwriter. And the just the way that
he talked about life, you know, talked about driving trucks,
the way that he talked about people around him, like
Bad Bad Lero Brown, or Roller Derby Queens and just America,
you know what I mean, just the way that he
saw it. And I just was fascinated by how well
(57:00):
he could play guitar and sing at the same time.
I think that's a tremendous skill. If you can play
well and sing at the same time, like that is
something that not a lot of people, even people in
this industry, can do. You know. It's it's a hard
thing to do.
Speaker 2 (57:14):
And such a groove on Bad Bad Lee, Roy Brown,
the baddest man in the whole day in town.
Speaker 3 (57:22):
Batter than Old King Kong.
Speaker 1 (57:24):
I mean, it's like, it's it, I got a name.
Speaker 2 (57:28):
There's so much soul in his voice, even when he
sings up tempo songs, and that's hard to do because
up tempo songs you just you flying through.
Speaker 3 (57:35):
There's a melody you're flying through. So my mom died
at this point fifteen years or so ago, but I
was speaking at her funeral. She was a big Jim
Crochey fan, which.
Speaker 1 (57:48):
Is why I like Jim croache.
Speaker 2 (57:50):
And I got up to give the eulogy, and it
was very hard for me because as much as I speak,
it really hard to be when your mom dies. I
still wanted to do it because I felt like that
was my superpower, my weapon, and I wanted to say
some stuff about what she meant to me and everybody
(58:11):
that was there. And I get up and I can't
talk because I'm crying so hard. Yeah, that's rough, and
it's so hard on me. And I've talked during really
emotional things, but it's different because I'm trying to talk
about my mom. She's no longer alive. These are people
that loved her and it's hard for me to breathe.
It's one of those where you're going and so I
(58:34):
have it written out because I also know that if
you're going to be emotional, good or bad, always have
it written out because you can focus on the paper
and read through. I couldn't even focus on the paper
because I had tears in my eyes right so hard,
and everybody was quiet, and I had paused for what
felt like hours. Really it was probably ten or fifteen
(58:55):
seconds in eternity, and somebody's ringing in their pocket goes
off off and it's one of those we had, We
had ring tones fifteen years ago.
Speaker 3 (59:04):
Yeah, it was bad, bad, That's cool. It was one
of my most favorite for him songs.
Speaker 2 (59:10):
That's awesome playing on someone's and they're going, oh God, sorry, sorry, sorry,
And all of that happened in about five seconds. But
after I heard that, and how much she loved that
record him, that song, hearing that in that moment, I
(59:32):
dried up and delivered the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (59:34):
It meant it all.
Speaker 2 (59:36):
That's what I think about whenever I think about Jim Croche. Now,
is that guy's ring tone going off and getting me
through my mom's Julie. Yeah, and bad bad Lee Roy
Brown was playing.
Speaker 1 (59:46):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (59:47):
I'm a yeah, I'm a big fan. That's that's a
great right.
Speaker 1 (59:49):
My wife we used to live in this tiny, little,
uh it's like maybe like four hundred square foot duplex,
you know, uh studio ish apartment thing, and uh she'd
wake up in the morning and put this record on
and crank it up. Lad that that meant that we
had to get up and clean and so if I
(01:00:11):
was sleeping in she'd go to the record player, put
it on and turn it all the way up and
I just hear. I'm like, oh, God.
Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Was so good because you can also go you don't
speed in the wind, you don't pull the mask off
to your lot ranger in, you don't mess.
Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
He just had so much salt with tempo and then
you can do like what time and exactly if you
can do that, yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Like So that's also you know, the playing, the lyricism,
and the way that he was able to do the
fun stuff and then also just sing a song that
would absolutely just but yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
You know Ball, you know Ball when it comes to music.
If you're a Jim Croche fan, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Jim Crochey is great. Yeah, one of one of my favorites.
Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Congratulations on having this record ready to go. When this
comes out, the record won't be out yet, it'll be
on September. People, they watched these things forever, so the
record might already be out to some folks who were
just watching it. So we got old fashioned name of
the record. The last song start flow, right, last song
was start Floor.
Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
I think we put dirt Floor at the end because
we released it already, so we figured towards the back.
Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
Uh, I'm rooting for you, man, you don't need my roots.
Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Thanks man, I'm.
Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
Rooting for you.
Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
You're You're for sure really, And here's what I like
is that I know it's with some people there's sensitivity
about talking about their time on a television show.
Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
It can be any of them. Yeah, I wasn't going
to go there. If you didn't go there. I wasn't
going to go there.
Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Oh I'm an open book.
Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
But you you you went there. But it wasn't like
you you were just telling your story. Yeah, I don't
know it was.
Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
I liked it was refreshing to hear you talk about it,
not like it was painful for you to talk about
but also not like hey look at me. It was
like in my journey, this was one of the things
that happened. I just happened to get to be there
with you in that journey because we were there at
the same time.
Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
But congratulations, man.
Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Thanks man. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
Man. Yeah, we got a bunch of music to play
on the road.
Speaker 6 (01:02:09):
Now.
Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
That's got to be fun to play new songs.
Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Yeah, it's been a great start. Just we've got a
whole new set and it feels really good. I'm really
proud of it.
Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
All right there. He is the great Chase back on everybody.
Speaker 6 (01:02:21):
Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.
Should we go to the chapel and get married by Elvis?
And ever since then it just kind of stuck. We
thought it'd be fun. I remember, like we paid for
the package and they said how many songs do you
want Elvis to sing? And I was like, well, not
really any like I just wanted. I thought it was
like we walk in, do the deal, and walk out
and they're like, no, well it comes with songs, and
I said, well he could sing one song, so we
get there. He sanging like thirteen songs. No wait, yes,
(00:30):
it was crazy.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Hey, guys, Bobby here today. Chase Beckham. You can know
him for a lot of things. He had a number
one song called twenty three, which crushed. Maybe you know
him as the guy who won American Idol and he
was the first person ever to win with an original song.
He's got over a billion streams, great songwriter, a reputation
as a really wonderful singer, and he's got new music.
(00:57):
He's got a song called Dirt Floor, which we'll talk about,
and he's get ready to release his new EP, Old Fashioned.
He's out, he's touring, he's doing dates with Cody Johnson,
he's doing his own thing. I really like this guy.
And I know I say that about a lot of people,
but if I don't say it, that's who you.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Should look out for. But I do like this guy.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Here.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
He is Chase Beckham, Chase, good to see you.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Good to see you. How you been been good? Busy? Busy?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Busy?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Actually not work wise this year. I took a lot
of time off this year and kind of been settling
into a new house and hanging out with my wife
and you know, doing stuff at home. And then I'm
just now getting back out on the road.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
So okay, let's talk just home life. Then.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah, so you have a new house. Is it one
of these houses that you bought and you have to
fix everything?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Not necessarily, there was some things. We bought it as
is because we got it at a good price, but
there was a handful of things that we had to fix.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Like what do you know how to do? What do
you know how to do in a house to fix?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I used to know how to do all of it, well,
I know, And.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Your story is I definitely want to go back and
talk about, like because you worked on big machinery, that's what,
But like, what do you know how to do inside
the house if it's broken.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Basic stuff like handyman stuff like I can do drywall,
I can. I'm I'm not good at electrical stuff. That
that stuff I still kind of stay away from. But
you know, anything drywall, painting repairs. You know, I can
do stuff like that around.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
But you'll call an expert if what isn't working.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Oh, you usually have to call an expert because I'm
not you know, if I'm on tour or something your home.
But if I'm at home, I'll call someone for like
ac or plumbing. I can't do plumbing, none of that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I only know how to do things that have broken
on weekends and I couldn't get someone to fix it,
and I had the emergency to learn how to fix it. Yeah,
like that's the limit of things I know how to
do in a house. I at one point, something's wrong
my with my washer, and I go back behind the washer,
and you know, they have like the red and the
blue and the little turney handles probably not their real names,
(03:02):
they're actually called Turney handles. But I learned if you
don't shut the water off first, it floods the house.
Just if you just pull the hoses out it. It's
a tough way to learn, so I learned, so I know,
if it has anything to do with water, I'm calling
an expert electrical and water, I'm calling an expert.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I'll calling someone in for that kind of stuff. If
I can like look it up on YouTube and like
watch a video and if I'm like this seems within
my means, then I'll try it myself. But uh, we
got a guy who came over and did a bunch
of the stuff for me because I was still kind
of in and out doing a bunch of stuff. And uh,
we're between two houses. Whenever we first bought the house,
so uh, and we were doing a wedding, it was
(03:41):
like there's a million different things going on. So it
was just easier at that time just to have someone
else come and help me out. But yeah, it's been
good man, just kind of you know, working on everything
at home and getting settled in. You'd think like spending
some time, i'd have like my stuff more together. I
feel like my life is more chaotic now that I've
had time at home. So uh, it's just it's you know,
(04:02):
roll with the flow and just getting older. How long
you've been married now about a year now.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Okay, Yeah, what have you learned about yourself?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
About myself? Oh? Man, that I that I talk too
much sometimes I don't know when to just quit it?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Is that because she tells you sometimes that's just because
I know, you.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Know, I'm like, uh, there's little I think, the little
like marriage arguments that you get in sometimes and it's
just like to me, something makes perfect sense, and I can't,
you know, make that make sense to my wife. And
sometimes I'm just like, I don't know why I keep
on trying to die on this hill. So I've learned
it just kind of yes, honey, you got it. But
(04:41):
we've been together on and off for like the better
part of thirteen years, so we know each other extremely well.
And I think us getting married and uh, you know,
like the biggest part of that was buying a home
together and kind of just like opening up this next
chapter of our life.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
There's a difference though, yeah, for sure, and being together
for however long and on and off and actually getting married.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
And you know this now.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Because my wife and I lived together before we got married,
and a lot of that was COVID based, because everybody
just kind of moved in together and she was living
in California at the time, and COVID is only going
to last a week. So she moved here for a
week and ended up staying. And so we lived together
and we live very tight because COVID, we don't you
can leave the house or you're going to die.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
You breed that air, you die immediately.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
And so what I've only been married five years and
I have learned those lessons, but that's about year one
lessons for me too. But I think the lessons now
that I have through marriage is I really pick my
battles and I don't even need to pick battles that
I want to win. There are sometimes where I feel
(05:52):
like I'm really right, but it's just not worth it
for the fight, and that is not me. I'm such
a challenger. I'll challenge anybody about anything.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
And with my wife and.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I said, you know what, I'll underneath, I'll take the
loss and I don't even have to say and I
there's and also some stuff is just not worth fighting about.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, exactly, I think that. You know, it's it's definitely
like you feel a strength in the commitment for each other,
like after you do get married, it's not just like
you can pack your bags and go.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
It's hard run away.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
It's it's like, you know, we're in this together, and
this is we chose to do this. And but you know,
I have an amazing wife who just you know, is
loved by everybody around us. And you know, she's often
anytime I take her somewhere, she's the favorite, not me,
you know, so it's like, oh, yes, she's She's just
fantastic and I'm lucky to have her, you know, and
(06:43):
especially having someone that I knew. You know, we started
dating when I was seventeen, so it's like way before
any of this stuff, and you know, she knew me
through like every phase of my life, and for some reason,
we just, you know, kind of kept clinging to each other.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
What would you say is the best quality about you?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
She'd probably say, I would I would imagine she'd probably say,
like my calmness whenever stuff gets crazy.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
What would you say the best quality about her?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Her ability to put up with me when come.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
On, so patience is something. But what would you say
the best quality about her?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
She just has the biggest heart. She loves unconditionally, and
you know, she she does so much for other people, Uh,
hardly ever thinks about herself. So she's always doing things
trying to make other people, you know, make make their
birthday the best birthday. Or you know, if we have
nieces and nephews come over to the house, she buys them,
you know, toys and presents and stuff. So when they
(07:42):
open up the room, there's it's like Christmas in their form.
And she's you know, always running around doing a million
different things because oh, I got to get this ready
for so and so's bridal shower for the you know,
baby shower. And she's kind of just you know, very
selfless in that sense where she just really unconditionally and
uh yeah, I think that's probably my favorite thing about her.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Is it hard for you to be loved unconditionally?
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I don't know. That's a good question for me. It
was there's, like I think with me, she definitely has
some conditions, you know, but uh, like we've been through
it all. So there's so many things that we've experienced
as a couple that uh, you know that we have overcame,
you know what I mean, and decided to fight through
and decided to stick it out, and uh, you know,
(08:32):
but there's definitely there's definitely limits to that that kind
of thing. And I think with her, it's just, you know,
I'm grateful coming home and having someone that wants to
spend time with me and wants to hang out, watch
a TV show or watch a movie, or go swimming
in the pool or you know, go take the dogs
for a walk or whatever. Like just having a companion
(08:53):
somebody who you know, she'll tell me when I'm wrong,
you know what I mean. So it's not like there's
like it's just all sunshine and rainbows and everything thing,
but uh, definitely, definitely it was hard. I think, you know,
I tried to be single for a little bit and
it just it wasn't something that I wanted to do.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I didn't really I couldn't find anything that I you know,
wanted to to engage in really, you know, And so
we kind of just and I know that she did
the same thing too, whenever we split up, kind of
during like the American Idol time, and at one point
we just got on the phone and we're like, you
want to just try this out, you know, once you
come out to Nashville and we'll do it again. And
(09:29):
then we were like, yeah, it sounds good. To me.
So here we are.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Where did you guys get married?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
We got married in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Oh that's not what I thought. The answer we're going to.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Be We got married in Vegas by an Elvis impersonator.
No way, Yeah it was. That's so awesome. And then
we did a big reception out here in Old Hickory.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
So how do you plan the Vegas Elvis impersonator or
did it just happen while you were out there?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
It almost happened one time while we were out there,
and then we were like, no, let's plan it and
actually like just you know, make the to make it
cool so our family. You know, She's like, my grandma'll
be so mad if I get married and she's not there.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Her grandma came out to Vegas for the Elvis in
person Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Her grandma, step grandpa, our parents were there, my sister
and uh that's about it.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Okay, So when did it almost happen and why didn't
you go through with it?
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Was because you got closer. She's like, I want to
have the wedding with my family.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
She was, yeah, just saying like if I did this,
like you know, my grandma might not speak to me.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Were you talking about it that morning out of nowhere,
was like we should just get married.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
No. I think we were at dinner drinking and we
were like, hey, should we go you know, should we
go to the chapel and get married by Elvis? And
ever since then it just kind of stuck. We thought
it'd be fun. So I remember, like we paid for
the package and they said how many songs do you
want Elvis to sing? And I was like, well, not
really any Like I just wanted. I thought it was
like we walk in, do the deal, and walk out,
(10:51):
and they're like, no, well it comes with songs, and
I said, well he could sing one song, you know,
And so we get there he sanging like thirteen songs.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
No wait, yes it was.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
It was crazy. So I'm just standing up there like
waiting for her to come walking down the aisle and
he's just like up there singing to me, and I
was like, this is I didn't think that this is
how this is turned out. And I'm like keeping, you know,
my dad's in a suit and a cowboy hat, just
looking at me like all serious, and I'm just like
what did I get myself into? It was a very
(11:22):
awkward and funny whole thing. You know, but everybody was there.
It was cool. You know, it was really pretty. My
wife looked beautiful, of course, and uh she came out
and he's singing to her. She's coming out, And what did.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
He sing as she came down?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I Uh, I can't help but fall in love with you?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I think, yeah, why.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Why? It was good. But he was doing like karate
kicks in front of my face and everything, and I
was like, yeah, what's going on in here?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Man?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
This is crazy. It was like in a shopping mall too.
It was like a weird little chapel, but it was
really cool. We had. It was like memories that you know,
we'll have forever. And we rented a like a convert
bull sixty eighth chavl where, you know, after we got married,
driving down the strip and uh, it was just like,
you know, something that you'll remember for the rest of
your life.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
That's such a fun story.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, it was a cool, cool little wedding. And then
we did kind of a small reception out here in
old or Old Heckory and that was cool too, just
like all family and friends and close. It was super
tight knit. I think might have been about one hundred
one hundred and twenty people there. That was it?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
All right, let's go back. Let's go back to you.
Did you graduate high school barely?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
I graduated from continuation.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
School, Okay, tell me about that.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Uh well, I just they didn't They didn't like me
very much at the real high school, so they sent
me to the bad kids school. Why. I was just
you know, testy. I was a class clown. I like
to poke fun at my teachers and make everybody laugh.
And which is you know, how I am now and
how I was. It's like totally polar opposite, like I'm
not anywhere near you know, thank god. But I was
(12:58):
just super loud mouthed, talking to everybody, very social, you know.
And uh so I'd get kicked out of classes and
mouth off to a teacher, say something stupid, and then
you know, after I think probably like ten or fifteen
visits to the principal's office, they just said, hey, Chase,
you know, we're gonna send you to to the the
other school over there where you'll get more attention from
the teachers. Okay, cool.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
So what's continuation school like?
Speaker 1 (13:23):
So it's a classroom. You're basically in a in a
class you got I think we had like four or
five periods. Our day was shorter, and you're in a
classroom with like the same kids like all day long,
almost because there's only so many kids in there. And uh, yeah,
it was it was interesting, you know. I don't I
(13:45):
don't want to you know, I'm sure it's great for
some people you can actually learn there. I just didn't
want to learn, you know, and there was nothing that
any teacher could do to fix that. And I was
kind of on my own little little bad path. So, uh,
you know, you can get away with a lot at
a continuation school. You can say things in a classroom
that you probably would never you know, you'd get expelled
for saying that in another school. So like language wasn't
(14:08):
off limits. They wouldn't punish you for cursing or anything
like that, so you could talk kind of how you wanted.
And we had a class that we took like every
two weeks on Thursdays. It was called Smoking Cessation Class.
So for all the kids in the school who smoked cigarettes,
they would take us to the separate class and we
would learn about the Tobacco Settlement and all the things
(14:31):
that the big tobacco companies said about their consumers, and
they would teach us, you know, the dangers of smoking,
because everybody in the you know, in high school smoked.
So that was interesting. That was never at any other
school I ever went to.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Did it make you want to smoke glass?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
No, No, not at all.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I thought you were going to say, they'll let you
smoke in class, Like, No, not in class.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Not in It was a class that get us to
quit smoking because we would all walk off because at lunchtime,
if you had perfect attendance, you could walk down to
the Carls Junior on the corner and get lunch. You
had thirty minutes to go get lunch and come back.
And so everybody wanted, you know, to get perfect attendants
so they could walk off, go have a cigarette at
lunchtime and get a spicy chicken sandwich.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
So what was the plan for one school was finished?
For you?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I didn't know, you know, I didn't have a plan
that was very much. I thought something was going to
work out for me, you know, and that was kind
of always in the back of my head. I wanted
to be a musician of some sort, so I went
through several phases of that. When I was nineteen, I
started my first band. Right after I got out of
high school and started playing shows, and I was working
(15:42):
just like regular jobs. I worked at a like a
snowboard surf skate shop for maybe like a year or two.
I don't know how long. I did handyman stuff is California, Yeah, yeah,
roofed houses, all kinds of audend jobs just to get
by so I could. I didn't want to take on
a real job because if I did that, then I
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wouldn't be able to go play on Friday and Saturday nights.
You know.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
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and we're back on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
So when did you first start to play music at all?
Were you doing that in high school? Any?
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah, Yeah, I started. I picked up a guitar. I
was a big kid. But when I was about three
three four years old is when I started becoming obsessed
with guitars. And I just I got one when I
was I think I was about three years old and
my grandmother got me the first one. And it was
a small, little, you know, small body nylon guitar, and
(16:47):
I took it, took it home and just never put
it down. I was just fascinated by it, you know,
And then as I got older, I would listen to
the radio and the songs would come back round on
the rotation. I would oh, I kind of learned a
piece of that one, and so I pick up my
guitar and try to figure out the rest of it
as the song will go on. Because you know, this
was before YouTube and you could watch a video on
(17:08):
how to play a g chord and stuff like that.
So I just kind of figured it out and taught
myself how to play guitar. And I'm still like I
got I got pretty good at one point, and then
I just I've never honestly got better. I'm still right
there at that one point. And but yeah, that thing
was like my best friend whenever I was as young
as I can remember.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Almost were you the kid that played music when you
were twelve years old? They know you for that.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I was just I was a good guitar player.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
People knew you played guitar, Like, oh, the kids in
school knew you play guitar.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, like I played at church and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Like, so was the goal then to play music for
the rest of your life. I'm not saying do what
you're doing now, but just somehow play music forever.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, I thought that that. You know, I was always
into Uh. I failed every class in high school. There
was another reason they kicked me out. But except for
English and history, those are the two classes that I
always excelled in. Really well. I would do bad, you
know with homework and stuff, but I would always pass
my essats by benchmarkside because I did pay attention. I
just didn't turn into work. And uh, yeah, it was
(18:10):
just something that you know, I knew I loved writing
and that I liked creating stuff and making stories up
and creating. You know, I love reading books and watching
movies and all that stuff fascinated me. So you know,
I wanted to be a movie star like Johnny Cash
or or like any of those guys who I really
looked up to. I was fascinated by all that stuff.
(18:31):
I knew that I wanted to do something like that.
I just didn't know what it was going to be.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Did you ever play any shows while you're in high school? No,
so that part of you didn't exist yet, where you're
out hustling a little bit.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
That that was just you know, I played, Uh, I
played with the church a little bit and I played
in my room.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
So you finished school and you start to play some
shows you're also working full time.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
What are the first gigs that you get?
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Bars and backyards, you know, like people would go play
someone's party for free, you know, and that stuff wouldn't
paid or nothing, but we would play. At the time,
my girlfriend worked at a bar called Callahan's in Irwindale
and it's kind of like it's a dive bar, just
like right off the highway, right off the two ten,
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And we were able to get in there as you know,
not being twenty one, because my girlfriend worked there. So
we'd go play shows there and dude, we'd you know,
we'd get a bunch of people to come. And so
as soon as we started making some good money for
that bar, they'd call us back like every month and hey,
you guys want to come back and play again. So
we did that kind of stuff, played all over Orange County,
(19:41):
you know, and just you know, a lot of alleyways, backyards,
just random you know. But if I didn't even know
when I went to American Idol, I didn't even know
what any your monitors were, or that people played shows
with monitors facing back at them. We were playing speakers
bakers going out, and I couldn't hear myself sing, you know,
And so that's kind of where I cut my teeth,
(20:02):
was just singing as loud as I can and kind
of got that raspy voice from doing all that I
think and from drinking and smoking and partying. But it
was definitely trying to holler over these speakers every night,
I'd lose my voice. Wake up the next day I
couldn't talk. But you know, just some of the best
best times in my life.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Was there ever a point nineteen twenty twenty one to
twenty two whatever that you stopped playing music for a
while because you had the thought of I have to
do the mature thing and just focus on a job.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
No, And at the time too, like you know, that
was that was hard to like maintaining my relationship with
Ashley at the time, because I didn't want to commit to, like,
you know, going and working a real job and taking
p tests and doing all those kinds of things that
come along with it, and so I put it off
as long as I could, And you know, it was
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really just focusing on going out and playing my music
for people and going to rehearsals and scraping up money
for you know, rehearsal spaces. That was always a big deal,
trying to find enough money so we could go play
somewhere in practice. But it never never really left my mind,
not at any point that I think it wasn't going
to happen or it wasn't going to work out. And
it happened in a way I didn't you know, expect
(21:16):
it to at all. But I think there was a
lot of points along that road where you know, people
around me were kind of like, all right, you know,
like go get a job.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Well, it's such a pipe dream.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Anything creative, anything in the arts at all, should actually
never happen for anybody. If you're just looking at the odds.
This is a numbers game, because everybody wants to do
it because it looks fine. Yeah, And it's not always
the most talented people that make it. It's people that
have the ability either very much learned or some innate talent.
But it's also people that just don't stop, right, Like
(21:48):
you have to have the screw loose inside of you
to not stop whenever this seventy third bad thing happens
to you, right whenever the one hundred and second rejection
happens to you.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
So a screw's got to be off.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Everybody I sit with and talk with and myself included,
something is off, just a little. But it's got to
be the right thing that's off, because all of it's
got to mix. There's got to be the right the desire, tenacity,
there's got to be a willingness to adjust and kind
of and also to to continue.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Learning and not think you know everything because I think
we've both been in the stage. We got to figure
it out.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Right, Yeah, like I got it? Yeah, Yeah, I gotta.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Figure it out. How am I not bigger than I am?
I gotta figure it out.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Were you guys trying to make it as a band
when you're in California?
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Did you ever feel like you were getting close?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah? I did at one point because we were at
that point we were kind of like a rock and
roll reggae band, you know, when I was playing like
like reggae music. We played this one big show with
a bunch of the guys from like like sky Opie
Ortiz who's from Long Beach dub All Stars, but he
was like the artist for Sublime. We opened up for them,
you know, and he's the dude who tattooed that big
(22:59):
son on Bradley's back and album. Yeah, and he drew,
he drew all that, and so we opened up for them,
and like when we did that, I was like, man, like,
we must be getting you know, we're knocking on something.
And uh, the band kind of just self destructed, you know,
and then I had to like recreate, you know, with
new people, try to keep this thing alive, and then
it just never it never really worked out. And uh
(23:21):
at that time, I had taken on a job at
a different company, at like a full time job, and
uh doing what the machinery stuff. That's when that all
that kind of.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Started off, Well was that job exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
So I worked for the United Rentals and uh so
we would supply construction sites with all kinds of machines
stuff that they need to build you know, uh, hospitals, apartments, houses, whatever. So, uh,
my first job there was running all the equipment on
and off of the trucks. So they have these big
(23:51):
dovetail flatbed trucks and uh they got a ramp that
pops up off the back and so I'd be driving
you know, four like big old for cliffs, back skid steers, excavators,
all that stuff, and you know, running it, making sure
that it was good and everything worked on it, changing
out the attachments on them, you know, and then I'd
stick it on the truck, strap it down, and send
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the driver on his way. So I did that for
a while. And then at one point I was driving
around in a truck, a small not like a Class
A truck. When I was driving around like a small
flatbed truck delivering equipment to job sites and stuff. And
I worked behind the counter there. I was a counter
sales rep, so I kind of I did everything over
there at one point.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Did you ever get for clif certified?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Oh yeah, yeah, you have to be for cliff certified.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Respect for somebody who's forklift certified.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
That certification walks in because not everybody's certified, only a
few people getting the forklift.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Yeah. When I moved to Nashville, I was fur cliff certified,
aerial lifts certified, and uh CPR certified. Those were my
three certifications.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
My step dad, I drove a fork left for thirty years.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah, I mean I do miss driving them like that
part was fun.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah. He was one of the only few that was
certified at his job at the mill or in his department.
So I mean a lot of people could have probably
got in the forklift and forked the lift.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yeah, but you had to be certified. Yeah, and so
they kind of treated him got precious at times.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Oh yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
So to me, it's funny because I never get to
talk about a forklift certification, But when you're talking that,
I was like, Oh, I wonder to taste the fore
Cliffs certify that's what.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah. No, they're a big company. So yeah, everything is
very much so by the book there and safety courses
and all that, and if you're doing anything unsafe, like
you can get fired, you know what I mean. So
it was like you knew every day someone could be
watching you from the office, so everything that you did
you try to, you know, be really careful about how
you did it. But we had this old old forkliff
that was awesome. It was a deuce on and it
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had you know, you could move the forks apart up
and like tilt them to do everything. It was like
the most maneuverable forklift and like it was a piece
of crapty but like everybody loved it, so much that
we just kept it right. And then that was like
the one that I was on all the time. I
miss it.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I had to get my CDO once really, Yeah, I
knowed you'd be impressed.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yep, that's tough. Yeah, my dad's a truck driver.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yeah, it's It was the hardest thing, not only to
get it, not only to do the written part of
the test.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
That's hard.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Why did you? Why did you get your CDO?
Speaker 3 (26:20):
I'm just a dude that does dude stuff. Why else
would I look at me? Is there anything more dude
than a guy? And way too expensive tennis es in
a card?
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Again, there was like an opportunity arouse where you had
to have it.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah, there was. I had a show on that Geo.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
When I left Idol, I went to go do the
show on that GEO, same company, Disney.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
They said we got the show for you, and so.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I went over and I had to get a CDO
because I had an episode where I had to drive
an eighteen wheeler across the city and deliver. And it
was the most pre work I've ever done, because you
don't just.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Show up and get your CDO right.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah, No, that's a lot of I had to study
the book for weeks, and I'm good.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
I'm studious. I love it. I love studying. But I
didn't even know what some of that stuff meant. I'd
never even been in one. When I took the written test,
I'd never been to an atheine wheeler. And then you
have to take the actual test where you're driving crazy.
And then I had to drive. I had to drive
through Chattanooga one side to the other. It's insane.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I'm gonna tell you what I learned about that people
don't respect truckers as much as they should know.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yeah, for two reasons.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
One, our country doesn't run without goods being delivered, absolutely
from one side of the country to another. We just
go to Walmart and get our stuff and go home,
not knowing.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Just magically appears on the shelves, right.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
So that's number one.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Number Two, At any moment, if that truck veers into
you because you did something stupid or you hit it,
oh yeah, you know who gets hurt real bad? The
car and people are just won't cutting it. And so
I'm nervous because I'm driving this massive machine. But I'm
not the one that's gonna get hurt. These stupid cars
cutting me off. They're gonna lose, and I don't want
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them to lose.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yeah, it's like, no, just don't do it, dude.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
That'll like respect. The truck driver's a massive hue. My
butt's never been more puckered.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
And I've done some crazy stuff, but driving a semi
through a city in rush hour, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
That's nuts. I wouldn't even want to know. I'm good nuts.
I hate driving anything, to be honest, that's too big.
Like I don't even like driving my truck through a
drive through.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Ok.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I feel like I'm.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Gonna whenever check listen too. I get nervous in an SUV.
I'm like, oh, go on, my land's tight now. Yeah,
So imagine me and an eighteen wheeler.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yeah, that's insane.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
So you and I have a little bit of history
that I met you on American Idol. I was working
on the show when you came on the show, and
they give us a little brief before you meet the person.
But for me, I never wanted to spend time with
anybody until we were on camera.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Which is how I even I do the show. Heck,
it's how we did this.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I don't really like to do a lot of talk before,
because I feel like you get a lot of like
real stuff that gets own to the wayside whenever you're
just waiting.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, instead of being like, oh, I'm gonna save that.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Yeah yeah. And I don't want to have to be
like save exactly.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
And so we got into a pretty good rhythm on
that show, and I really enjoyed my time there. And
I remember when you were coming on and we were
like on a farmer, no man, not a We were
somewhere the first time we met where there was like
a pond and a fence and we're like.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Standing on the fence talking about one four clib.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Driver to one CDL driver to another, and but two
certified dudes just being men. But I remember them talking
about you and they said, man, this guy's real good.
And I said, okay, you told me that about every
single person. They said, no, but this is different because
he doesn't know he's as good as he is, and
also he doesn't know how to control it yet. Meaning
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how they had described you was you're so good, but
you've just kind of been wild out running doing your
own thing.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
And like you said, you didn't know you never used interior.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Monitors and that you had a great voice, but that
you were just one hundred percent yeah. And I remember
hearing you seen the first time, and I was like,
they're right in both ways, Like this dude's awesome and
always gonna kill himself if he keeps going this hard
all the time. Because when you're was doing shows and
you're hustling like you are, you have to go hard.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Yeah all the time.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Absolutely, And you came on that show and you kind
of took the wind out of a lot of folks
because you were also just so different.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
And that's that's all we talked about.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
The first time we talked was like, you had a
real job, and does your dad die right before there?
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Are you are? You know?
Speaker 1 (30:20):
I was in a car that you that was in
the car wreck?
Speaker 3 (30:23):
How close to the show were you in that car wreck?
Speaker 1 (30:27):
So from the time that I auditioned in OHI uh,
that was about two weeks before it was that recent. Yeah,
which is why I thought it was crazy for me
to go. You know, I told my parents because at
the time, your.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Dad's still alive. Yes, ca'se dad? Sorry about that? Got
it confused?
Speaker 1 (30:46):
No, Yeah, we're good, right, Okay, My grandpa died a
little bit before he was kind of also, you know,
like very much of a father figure to me. But
uh no, I had gotten that car wreck, and uh
it was you know, a big legality thing for me
because you know, I was drunk driving and so I
you know, got arrested and lost my license. I had
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to call you know, United Rentals and tell them, hey,
I can't come to work.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Were you already going to be on American Idol when
that wreck happened?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I think I did a I did a regular like
online audition right before it, and then they had called
me afterwards after the wreck and said, hey, we want
you to come and do an actual audition for the
real judges because I sang for the producers.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Did you have to tell them what had happened?
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yes, because after you get a golden ticket. So this
whole thing was crazy. I had gotten in the wreck,
went home, you know, because me and Nashley at the
time had just broke up. So I was going through it.
You know, we've been seven years strong. At that point.
We were living down in Huntington Beach and I was
back up at my mom's house and my stepdad's up
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in the desert in Apple Valley and living there again,
and uh, there's nothing more worse than going home, you know,
like tail between your legs, like it didn't work out
and I need, like I need a place to stay
kind of thing. And uh my parents were like, well,
as long as you're working, you know, you always you
always have a place here, and you could stay here.
And so, uh, my band was kind of not happening anymore,
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and I didn't know what was going on. I didn't
know what was going to happen for me.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I was waking up at four am to go to
work and you know, working until six o'clock in the
evening and getting home at seven point thirty. And just
I was pretty miserable at that point in my life
and uh, you know, being without Ashley and just kind
of going through it, you know and young and stupid,
and so uh I went out one night and did
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what I did, and you know, totaled my truck and
it was pretty brutal, but uh made it out alive.
And my parents when I got back, we got that
phone call, you know, and I'd spend a couple of
rooms or days just in my room, kind of just
like hiding away. I didn't want anybody to know, you know,
I didn't want my dad to know. I don't want
my friends to know. I was like, nobody can learn
(33:02):
about this. This is so embarrassing, you know. And and
they came in there one day and they're like, hey,
you know, we got call or email or whatever from
the people at American Idol and they want you to
go do the audition for Luke Carry and Lionel And
I was like no. I was like, I blew it.
Guys like, you know, this is MyD I was like,
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I don't. I'm just a bum. I don't know what
I'm going to do with my life, but that's not
what it's going to be. And my stepdad sat me
down and he was like, Chase, if you don't do this,
He's like, you're throwing away, like such a good opportunity
to put this behind you and just change your life,
you know, and go do something and make a name
for yourself. He's like, I believe that you can do it.
I was like, I'm not going to win that show, Terry,
you know, it's not possible. I was like, you hear
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I heard the other kids singing in the audition waiting rooms,
you know, on the zoom calls and stuff, and I
was like, I'm nowhere near these guys, Like, you know,
I can't sing that well, and he was like, no,
I think you can. Like you just need to trust us.
He's like, well, we'll rent a car and your mom
will drive you up there and just go do it,
you know, and just see what happens. And he's like
if it doesn't work out, he's like, we will figure
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all this other, you know, stuff out whenever you get back.
And so you go and sat there all day waiting
and I was just nervous as can be. And I
was like one of the last ten people to go
in that day. So you kind of sit in like
this grass field all day, just waiting to you know,
for them to call your name. And so it was
just nervousness building up all day. And I went in
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there and I got three yes's and a golden ticket.
And I remember in my head, to me, that was
like this tiny little crack in the door that I
had been trying to kick down my whole life. And
I finally saw like a little bit of light and
I was like, you know, I'm gonna wedge my foot
in here, and I'm going to get in and so
I called my step tout. I was like, can you
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believe this? Like, you know, I made it. I got
a gold ticket. And he's like, yeah, I told you
that you could do it, you know. And he's like,
this is what I've been trying to tell you, you know,
just have some confidence and stuff. So then they pull
me after that and they take me into into a
waiting room and they say you have to talk to
a psychologists and a lawyer basically, and they just kind
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of make sure that you're not crazy, you know, before
they put you on national TV. And so one of
the questions they asked is they say, have you ever
been arrested? You know? And I'm sitting there like there
goes my shot and I was like yes, and they're
like when when did you get arrested? And I was
like two weeks ago? And what did you get arrested for?
Do you I They're like oh wow, and okay. They
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finished asking the questions and then a producer came over
to me after that and said, hey, would you be
like willing to open up about that kind of stuff?
And so me, I'm, you know, just trying to save
that light, that little crack in the door. Yes, sure, absolutely,
I'll talk about it. And so I was surprised that
they let me keep going on, you know, because I
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had all this other stuff going on in the background.
But yeah, that's kind of how that whole experience was
for me, is I was like, this is my chance
to finally get away from, you know, all these stupid
things that I've done and make something, you know, for
myself and and be proud of it. And so yeah,
I just every week prayed that I would make it
one more week, one more week, one more week, you know.
(36:18):
And then I got down to the end and it
was WILLI and Grace and I was like, yeah, I'm
not winning. So I was blown away. Whenever it kind
of all you know, played out the way that it did.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the
Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I really enjoyed the show at that time because it
was way less about, hey, this is American Idol.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
It was more about everyone knew that just being on
the show longer built a platform for themselves.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
And that's what I was trying to do.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Yeah, and I think everybody even knew that there was
an understanding of you just you stay on the show.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Not to be the next American Idol. Whatever that means.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
You're staying on the show because you have seven eight
million eyeballs watching, and every week that you last, it's
another week that you get people to see who you
are and see your music.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
So that's how I thought that it was going to go.
I said, if I could just make it to these
live shows where like I'm on the live tapings, I
get to play with the band live and stuff. I
was like, if I get to do like one or
two of those, like maybe somebody will see me and
I'll get a phone call like hey, we want to
sign you a record deal with this and that. And
so that was my goal, you know, And even though
that was a pretty childish thing to think was going
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to happen, but I just wanted to make it and
build a platform and get some people to see my music.
And that's why it was, you know, kind of important
for me to sing some of my own songs on
there and do stuff that I had written, because that's
what I felt like I was good at. I was like,
I'm not a great karaoke singer, so all the covers
that I had to do, I was kind of just
like how can I make this work for me? But
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they were kind of enough to let me sing a
couple of my own songs on there, which I feel
like really made the difference from me.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Oh yes, it's why you won the show.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Yeah, getting to connect with people with stuff that I
do well, you know, like twenty three started on idol
and why I've written it, you know, months before all that.
But uh, and I had no idea how big of
a hit song it was going to be. But whenever
they asked me, hey, have you written any of your
own music, and said, yeah, absolutely, here, I sent him
a file and they were like, man, some of these
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are great. This twenty three song is great. You should
save it, don't release it, you know, on socials or anything.
Until you make it to the top seven. You can
record this, you know, You're get to go and do
like a little recording session. That's how I met Ross
Kapperman was he was the producer out there.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
So, uh, that's crazy because Ross is one of my
dearest friends here. Yeah, like dearest dearest friends. Yeah, he
was out there.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
He was producing in Los Angeles. Yeah, yeah, it sounds city.
I think it was how all this.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Stuff ends up getting together is so weird.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
When you won the show, I was surprised, not because
of how good you were, because you were very unconventional,
that's all. That's usually not the most unconventional show. And
I can tell you some behind the scenes drama that
was happening is that you were singing originals. Because you
did a couple originals. I'm not sure how many you did.
I can think of too.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
I think I think it was two. If it were,
I think it was two.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Since you were doing it, everybody else wanted to do it,
and they wouldn't let everybody do it. Yeah, you kind
of had to have something about you, and they wanted
to hear their music first. And I just remember everybody
being upset, even asking me off camera, like how do
I get to sing an original? And I just kind
of wanted to say, well, do you sound like Chase?
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (39:38):
And they didn't.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
But that says something to even who you were as
an artist. And you had put in all those hours
playing all those backyards and bars.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, rehearsals, and I wrote all. I always
wrote my music. You know, we rarely if I played
a show back then. I didn't do covers, you know,
so I was singing because if I wrote something, I
was proud of it, and I wanted to play it
for people and be like, hey, what'd y'all think about
that one in the middle of the set, you know,
do you think that was a good song or you know,
and if nobody liked it, then I'd throw it out
and write a new one. And so I was like
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a writing machine back then because I was having to
come up with stuff for my band to play. And
you know, when my band kind of dissolved and me
and Ashley had split up and you know, my whole
life kind of went south, that's when I kind of
leaned into the more country, you know, red dirt stuff
is what I was listening to, Like early Zach Bryan
(40:29):
and Tyler Childers and Colton Moore and the clever few
Pikos in the Rooftops. Guys like that were all like
in rotation on my playlist, and so that's really what
inspired whenever I was sitting down I wrote twenty three
was all those guys that I was listening to then,
because I was like, you know what, why don't I've
been trying this thing and it's not working, Like and
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I thought, how crazy would it be to go country
and do country music? And you know, I grew up
listening to country music. My mom's from a small town
in Oklahoma, and all of my whole side of the family,
you know, over there, that's it's all very much. You
get anything from trailer trash to high class redneck, but
there's a there's a lot of that was influenced on
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me when I was a kid. And the reason I
didn't think it was cool in California was because I
remember everybody used to one time of year get all
gussied up in their boots and go to stagecoach and
everybody was and I remember I just hated that for
some reason whenever I was younger, and it kind of
turned me off of country music. And because whenever I
was younger, everybody it was like, oh, country's not cool,
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like put on rock and roll radio or whatever. But
I loved it, and that's what I grew up on.
So I found myself falling back in love with all
these old songs that I listened to when I was
a kid, hearing on the radio, like George Strait, you know,
Timma Grawl and Keith Whitley and stuff like that. And yeah,
I was like, you know what, I'm gonna try it
out and see what happens. I sang a Hank Williams
(41:56):
junior song from my mom, and she was like, you
have to do it. She's like, you absolutely have to
do it. She's like, I think you sound great doing it,
and uh, I was like really. So it was kind
of a wild thing for me to do. You know.
I still feel like on the show they wanted to
classify me more as like a rock kind of guy
or like alternative between. But what I wanted to sing was,
you know, mostly the country music and stuff and play
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with the steel guitar on stage and uh yeah, like
that was kind of my goal. The whole time I
was on there. I didn't know how it was all
going to shake out. Who does who does?
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Literally I don't know how it's going to shake out
next week?
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
So when did you move to Nashville.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Weeks after winning?
Speaker 2 (42:35):
What was So it's kind of a you're at the high,
you just win this show.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Everybody's congratuate back paths for everybody. Yeah, you get here
and nobody cares yeah, and not just you.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Yeah, Well you get on the road and you get
humbled real fast, show up play for fifty people in
a five hundred cap room, and you're like, you're starting over.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Yeah, you're starting over.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
The good thing about you is that you you're not
You weren't starting over from doing a television show. You'd
notn't even doing it. Yeah, like you had all those
years of that. To me, the television show isn't the
biggest part of your story. To me, the biggest part
of your story is you learn how to do it
doing it, and then you just waited for an opportunity
to take advantage of, to get more people to see
(43:20):
what you could already do. Like, that's what I think
about when I think about you. I definitely don't think
you're a product of a TV show. Even though you
won the freaking show, which is crazy cool, I don't
think you're a product of the show. I think the
show just gave you a lane to show what you've
been working towards for so long. Yeah, you get to Nashville,
what's that like?
Speaker 1 (43:38):
It was crazy man, meeting a lot of people who
seem like they wanted to meet me, you know what
I mean. So it was, you know, going to meetings
and stuff and you know, bumping into people and just
getting introduced to this exec and that exec and this
guy does this and this guy does that. I didn't
know what any of these jobs were, you know, before I, like,
(43:59):
you know, I was driving forkliffs and I didn't know
the structure of a of a record label or how
all that stuff works, or how publishing works.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Yeah, or the manager or how they're different, or a
business manager like all that is exactly baptized into this
place and you're expected to act like you know, until
you figure it out.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Yeah, And so it was it was a little you know, overwhelming.
But I met Carrie. She came to one of my
is your manager? Yeah? By manager, she came to one
of my uh first performances. I did a whiskey jam,
and uh she had We've gotten in touch through my
stepdad called her and was like, Hey, I want you
to represent my steps.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Hold on a minute. Your stepdad called one of the
those powerful, powerful managers in Nashville. Yeah, and said, I
want you to represent my steps on straight cold.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
How it went?
Speaker 3 (44:48):
Yeah, And so what's the story you heard about how
that went?
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Uh? No, that's what I wasn't a part of that.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
Say what do they say in the office. I don't, well,
you left me a message.
Speaker 4 (45:03):
Voice and I was like, oh my gosh, because I,
you know, obviously was on set with another client during
the whole show of American Idols the whole time I
was bought in the chase.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Oh yeah, she kind of knew who you work there.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
So when he called, I was just calling major managers,
going you represent my son.
Speaker 7 (45:23):
You know, He's literally googled who managers Luke Bryan and
he found Carrie and then just started dialing numbers and
then finally gets in touch with her and he calls
me and he's like, hey, I just talked to Luke
Brian's manager.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
She wants she wants some manager to I was like,
what are you talking about. I was like, that's crazy.
I was like, okay, sure, Terry. And then, you know,
sure enough. When I first flew out to Nashville just
to visit UH and kind of meet everybody at BMG
and everything, that's whenever she came out to one of
the performances I had, and she was just doing everything
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like first, like the first time I had ever met her.
She came out and was like organizing the lines to
the meet and greet and taking people's phones and taking
pictures and everything, and she just handled the whole thing,
and me and my mom were both there kind of
just like, you know, this had never happened to us
before we got you know, two hundred people standing in
line wanting to take pictures after I get done singing
and stuff. And so we left that night and I
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told my mom was like, I think that lady might
be my manager. I'm not sure. I was like, but
I feel like that's how this is going to work out.
So we went to dinner you know, later that week,
and then you know, had a great conversation and then
kind of just ended up. You know. She called me
and she's like, hey, I'm down to do this if
you're down, And I was like, yeah, absolutely. She's the
only manager I met with. I didn't go meet anybody else.
Speaker 5 (46:39):
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and we're back on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
Did you think you were gonna get here and be
famous immediately?
Speaker 1 (46:57):
No? Uh, I thought we were going to take one
of my songs to the radio a little faster than
we did, but uh, because it was you know, it
was doing great and I thought it would have been
a hit. And then the funny thing is is two
years later, that's the song that we took to the
radio and got a number one with. But no, I
didn't expect instant you know. The way I looked at
it was I've been competing against all these fantastic singers,
(47:20):
you know, and great musicians too. But now that I'm here,
I'm competing with Luke Combs, Morgan Wall and Luke Bryan,
you know, everybody, George Davis, Parmally, all these guys who
are crushing it on the radio. I was like, I
have to figure out how to get my songs past
theirs now, Like, and that's a whole new level of competition,
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Not that I think about it competitively or anything, but
that's kind of just I was like, you're with the
big dogs now, and it's definitely not going to be uh,
it's gonna be harder, you know what I mean, It's
gonna be a lot harder. So I knew what I
was in for whenever I started out.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
Did you have any moments while you were here early
on that you thought maybe this place was too big
for you?
Speaker 3 (47:59):
Now know, you always believe it was gonna work. That's wild.
Even through all.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
This, I still I still believe that, you know, like
my best time hasn't happened yet. Like I still believe
that something else is going to you know, go.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
On if that you should.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
That's not crazy exactly, but it's like I still just
you know, anticipate and and I don't expect, but I
try to put the work in and believe in it.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Where did that come from? Where's the positivity come from?
Speaker 3 (48:23):
Or the optimistic outlook?
Speaker 2 (48:24):
I should say more than positivity, where's the optimistic outlook
come from?
Speaker 1 (48:27):
It's just hope?
Speaker 3 (48:28):
But who what? What?
Speaker 1 (48:29):
Hope?
Speaker 3 (48:29):
Somebody in your family? I don't know this way and
instill this in you.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
Yeah. I had a cousin who wanted to be a singer.
It never worked out for him.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
Uh was your Were your parents optimists? Did they tell
you things are going to work out? No?
Speaker 1 (48:47):
Not in that sense. They definitely were pretty realistic with
me at some points of time like that, you know.
But the idle thing was, you know, kind of like
them telling me not to give up on my dreams
and that they knew that I was capable of it.
I just needed the right opportunity and you know, for
some reason that all unfolded right in front of me,
just the way it needed to and at just the
(49:07):
right time. I you know, it saved my life in
a way, because it's like, if I kept doing whatever
I was doing, then man, I don't know, you know,
where i'd be right now, or if I would even
you know, be working like everybody at what would you
be doing? You know, I'd like to say i'd be
working blue collar, you know, doing construction or working heavy machinery,
(49:29):
and but I don't, you know, if I was doing
what I was doing, then you know that I could
either be dead or in jail or I don't know.
And there was a time whenever I was young at
that age, I thought thirty was turning thirty was never
going to happen, Like I was like, you know, and
I was cool with just being wild and free, and
I was like, oh, you know, if I smoking and drinking,
if I die really or whatever, you know, And now
(49:49):
I'm thirty, and I'm like, dang, you know, I wish
I would have taken care of myself a little bit
better back then and would have saw some of this stuff.
But then at the same time, if I didn't have
those experiences and do those things, I wouldn't have been
put into that position to be where I'm at now,
you know, And so it all just kind of happens.
I don't believe that it's all going to work out
(50:10):
the way that you want it to, but I do
believe that everything is going to work out the way
that it should, you know. And if you, you know,
have a good heart and good faith, and you know,
like I lean on on on my Bible and my
family and that's kind of you know, where I get
any of my optimism from.
Speaker 3 (50:30):
So that's the answer.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
Then, Yeah, just family and faith and just hope and pray.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
Old fashions and name of the record that's going to
be coming out? Why did you choose that?
Speaker 1 (50:41):
So it was kind of just like I didn't know
what I wanted to name the EP as far as
like I didn't have like a theme or anything like that.
And it's one of my favorite songs on there, and
we've been promoting the song on the road for like
a year and a half, and so I just figured
it deserves its time. It's you know, having Itself is
a title, but it's one of my favorites on there.
(51:02):
I think it's a very cool self explanatory song about
me and my values and what I love.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
What about Dirt Floor song.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
Yeah, that one, it's kind of like, I think the
most obscure one that's on there. You know, it's it's
just a little it's a little different. It's got like
this different, like smoky western field to it, and it's
different than anything I've ever done, I feel like. But
and it's just a moody song. But it's a love song,
you know what I mean. And it's like something that
(51:32):
normally you'd be singing on that kind of a melody
would be more of a breakup kind of feel, but
it's about falling in love with someone. And so I
think it's it's just very different from anything that I've
done in that sense. But uh yeah, I wrote that
with with John Pierce and Brandon Kenney and those are
two that they're common themes on the on every cut
(51:55):
that I have. I'm writing with those guys all the time.
So we just wrote it on the bus. I think
we're up for Park mccollumn that weekend when we wrote it,
or it might have been something different, might have been
Warren's Eiders but yeah, I wrote it, recorded it and
just loved it, fell in love with the way that
it sounded. It's the opening song on our on our
set right now.
Speaker 3 (52:15):
Oh that's cool. Yeah, what's the final song on just
set twenty three?
Speaker 1 (52:19):
Yeah, it kind of has to be, you know.
Speaker 3 (52:23):
It's like you could play at the beginning in the end.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
Yeah, but I'm not a fan of that. I like
the show to be a full experience of you know,
music from one one one end to the other. I've
seen people do that. I've seen people I like people
do that. I've seen someone play their hit three times and.
Speaker 3 (52:39):
I don't I'm honest, I don't mind it. I love it.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
Once this is way way way back in the day,
so before your time. However, you will probably know the
band because you're pretty knowledgeable. But there's a rock band
called Sevenmary three in there from the nineties and they
have a massive song called Cumbersome. And so there's video
that these guys and they're playing in a small club
and there's a guy in like the second row. There's
(53:05):
not a lot of people there, and he's there. He's like,
play Conversome and so they're like, Okay, they play another
song it goes play combersome and the singer.
Speaker 3 (53:17):
Goes, dude, that's our hit.
Speaker 8 (53:20):
We're going to play cumbersome. You gotta wait a minute.
I've said that exactly, so you think we're not going
to play comver some So, yeah, twenty three has become
like my freebird. Like it's like that's when I hear
the whole dang show. It's just you know, I played
twenty three. I'm like, I just started, We're going to
play this song. I got an hour and fifteen hour
and twenty up here. We'll get there, I promise.
Speaker 3 (53:41):
Is it exciting to have a whole bunch of new
music coming out?
Speaker 1 (53:43):
Yeah? It is. Like I said, I took a little
bit of a hiatus, Like last year we put out
I only put out two songs last year, you know,
and that was because we were so busy touring off
of twenty three and bad for me. So it was
so hectic, you know, doing in one year Europe, the
next year Canada, Uh, every state you can think of,
(54:04):
and h I played every state in the continental United States,
every I played everywhere but Hawaii, you know. So it's like,
I don't know if that's ever gonna happen. But it's
been It's just been a crazy, you know, journey of
touring and being different places and learning things on the road,
and then UH kind of just got sidetracked from like, oh,
you know, actually I need to go to the studio
(54:25):
and record some music. I need to get back to
Nashville and write some songs. But I was hardly ever home,
you know, So I only put out two songs last year,
and then uh got married, you know, bought a house
and me and my wife moved in, and a little
bit before that, I've been going for about two and
a half years, like NonStop, like January to December, touring,
(54:48):
and towards the end of last year, I called Carrie
and uh my booking agent, and was like, hey, I
can't do January or February or March. It's like I
just need some time to be at home. And see,
I just took some time at home cut this music
in December, you know, and went in the studio and
cut it in December with Bart Butler, and then just
(55:11):
worked kind of mixing it while I was at home
and going through all the production side of things, and yeah,
I finally got it mastered and then finally got, you know,
back out on the road, and then just really excited
to finally be getting to put it out. I've been
feel like I've been working on it for a long time.
Speaker 2 (55:27):
So we asked people to come in and bring music
that means a lot to them, an album that means
a lot to them. And I see you have a
vinyl here, would you might hold that up at the
camera and showing him what it is.
Speaker 1 (55:38):
This is Jim Crochey. This is one of my favorite
records of all time. It's one of my wife's favorite
records too. Uh one of my this is like so
this is after he passed away, they put together this record.
I have one of the original releases of it that
that's what I was, you know, playing on. Actually I
do have two of these because I bought one at
a garage sale that a couple of years ago. But
(56:00):
this one, it's got all his best hits. My favorite
is operator.
Speaker 3 (56:06):
Good. So I'm a massive Jim Crochey fan.
Speaker 1 (56:08):
Yeah, so my wife got into this because I got
into it. One of my aunts in Oklahoma gave me
the record whenever my grandma had passed away. She's like, Chase,
you like this he's he's a old hippie and he
sings all these great songs. And I was like, okay, cool,
and so I took it home and played it, and
it's like, man, like I'd never heard you know, I'd
heard some of his songs and movies and stuff, but
(56:28):
never really dove into him as an artist. And yeah,
this became like one of my most prized possessions.
Speaker 2 (56:34):
What about him as an artist? As a songwriter, do
you think that you resonate He.
Speaker 1 (56:39):
Was a phenomenal songwriter. And the just the way that
he talked about life, you know, talked about driving trucks,
the way that he talked about people around him, like
Bad Bad Lero Brown, or Roller Derby Queens and just America,
you know what I mean, just the way that he
saw it. And I just was fascinated by how well
(57:00):
he could play guitar and sing at the same time.
I think that's a tremendous skill. If you can play
well and sing at the same time, like that is
something that not a lot of people, even people in
this industry, can do. You know. It's it's a hard
thing to do.
Speaker 2 (57:14):
And such a groove on Bad Bad Lee, Roy Brown,
the baddest man in the whole day in town.
Speaker 3 (57:22):
Batter than Old King Kong.
Speaker 1 (57:24):
I mean, it's like, it's it, I got a name.
Speaker 2 (57:28):
There's so much soul in his voice, even when he
sings up tempo songs, and that's hard to do because
up tempo songs you just you flying through.
Speaker 3 (57:35):
There's a melody you're flying through. So my mom died
at this point fifteen years or so ago, but I
was speaking at her funeral. She was a big Jim
Crochey fan, which.
Speaker 1 (57:48):
Is why I like Jim croache.
Speaker 2 (57:50):
And I got up to give the eulogy, and it
was very hard for me because as much as I speak,
it really hard to be when your mom dies. I
still wanted to do it because I felt like that
was my superpower, my weapon, and I wanted to say
some stuff about what she meant to me and everybody
(58:11):
that was there. And I get up and I can't
talk because I'm crying so hard. Yeah, that's rough, and
it's so hard on me. And I've talked during really
emotional things, but it's different because I'm trying to talk
about my mom. She's no longer alive. These are people
that loved her and it's hard for me to breathe.
It's one of those where you're going and so I
(58:34):
have it written out because I also know that if
you're going to be emotional, good or bad, always have
it written out because you can focus on the paper
and read through. I couldn't even focus on the paper
because I had tears in my eyes right so hard,
and everybody was quiet, and I had paused for what
felt like hours. Really it was probably ten or fifteen
(58:55):
seconds in eternity, and somebody's ringing in their pocket goes
off off and it's one of those we had, We
had ring tones fifteen years ago.
Speaker 3 (59:04):
Yeah, it was bad, bad, That's cool. It was one
of my most favorite for him songs.
Speaker 2 (59:10):
That's awesome playing on someone's and they're going, oh God, sorry, sorry, sorry,
And all of that happened in about five seconds. But
after I heard that, and how much she loved that
record him, that song, hearing that in that moment, I
(59:32):
dried up and delivered the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (59:34):
It meant it all.
Speaker 2 (59:36):
That's what I think about whenever I think about Jim Croche. Now,
is that guy's ring tone going off and getting me
through my mom's Julie. Yeah, and bad bad Lee Roy
Brown was playing.
Speaker 1 (59:46):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (59:47):
I'm a yeah, I'm a big fan. That's that's a
great right.
Speaker 1 (59:49):
My wife we used to live in this tiny, little,
uh it's like maybe like four hundred square foot duplex,
you know, uh studio ish apartment thing, and uh she'd
wake up in the morning and put this record on
and crank it up. Lad that that meant that we
had to get up and clean and so if I
(01:00:11):
was sleeping in she'd go to the record player, put
it on and turn it all the way up and
I just hear. I'm like, oh, God.
Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Was so good because you can also go you don't
speed in the wind, you don't pull the mask off
to your lot ranger in, you don't mess.
Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
He just had so much salt with tempo and then
you can do like what time and exactly if you
can do that, yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Like So that's also you know, the playing, the lyricism,
and the way that he was able to do the
fun stuff and then also just sing a song that
would absolutely just but yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
You know Ball, you know Ball when it comes to music.
If you're a Jim Croche fan, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Jim Crochey is great. Yeah, one of one of my favorites.
Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Congratulations on having this record ready to go. When this
comes out, the record won't be out yet, it'll be
on September. People, they watched these things forever, so the
record might already be out to some folks who were
just watching it. So we got old fashioned name of
the record. The last song start flow, right, last song
was start Floor.
Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
I think we put dirt Floor at the end because
we released it already, so we figured towards the back.
Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
Uh, I'm rooting for you, man, you don't need my roots.
Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Thanks man, I'm.
Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
Rooting for you.
Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
You're You're for sure really, And here's what I like
is that I know it's with some people there's sensitivity
about talking about their time on a television show.
Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
It can be any of them. Yeah, I wasn't going
to go there. If you didn't go there. I wasn't
going to go there.
Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Oh I'm an open book.
Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
But you you you went there. But it wasn't like
you you were just telling your story. Yeah, I don't
know it was.
Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
I liked it was refreshing to hear you talk about it,
not like it was painful for you to talk about
but also not like hey look at me. It was
like in my journey, this was one of the things
that happened. I just happened to get to be there
with you in that journey because we were there at
the same time.
Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
But congratulations, man.
Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Thanks man. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
Man. Yeah, we got a bunch of music to play
on the road.
Speaker 6 (01:02:09):
Now.
Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
That's got to be fun to play new songs.
Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Yeah, it's been a great start. Just we've got a
whole new set and it feels really good. I'm really
proud of it.
Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
All right there. He is the great Chase back on everybody.
Speaker 6 (01:02:21):
Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.
Host
Bobby Bones
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