September 24, 2026 • 41 mins
Bobby heads back to Mountain Pine, Arkansas to sit down with his former stepdad, Arkansas Keith, for a conversation full of stories from the place that shaped them both. Keith looks back at his decades working at the sawmill, raising Bobby, and what Bobby was really like growing up. They get into hunting, fishing, old trucks, classic rock, and some of the memories that still make them laugh. Keith also shares what it was like watching Bobby’s career take off from back home and how life in Mountain Pine has changed over the years.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is one of the most personal Bobbycats that I've
ever done. And it's with my former stepdad, who we
call Arkansas Keith. I went back to Mountain Pine, my hometown,
and I sat with Arkansas Keith for about an hour.
And we were at my old high school auditorium whenever
we shot this, which explains the big curtain behind us.
And also the crappy chairs, because people were saying, I
(00:23):
can't believe you set them in such crappy chairs. It's
the only chairs they had in my old high school auditorium.
What do you people want? But I do call him
my former stepdad because my mom married him when I
was 12 or 13. He was my stepdad until probably
18 or 19. They did get divorced before my mom died,
(00:47):
but he was really one of the only stable influences
in my life from my early teenage years all the
way until I graduated college and even until today. We
still have a great relationship. We are still very close.
He was one of the first people to meet baby Billy.
So when I say former, mostly that's because him and
(01:09):
my mom got divorced before she died. I think if
they would have been together when she died, I would
still say my stepdad. Either way, we're still very close.
He is for sure family. And now here he is,
the great Arkansas Keith.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
All right. So we both went to school here. Was
this auditorium here when you were here?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
It was not, only the main building.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
When did you graduate Mount Vine?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
1974.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
What was the school, did they smoke here outside?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
At the old school they did. I'm sure they did
here too, but I don't remember where, but at the
old school they smoked at the burner.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I don't know if they had a place here when
you were in school that it was, hey, you could
just go outside and smoke. Yeah. Was it allowed here?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
It was allowed.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Is that crazy thinking back about that?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Sometimes it's really crazy. I mean, how smoking is. Now,
and it was then, everybody just accepted, even the teachers smoked.
With the students? I seen, yeah, a few times.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Because it wasn't a weird deal, it was just everybody
just went out.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Smoking was just acceptable then.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
What was Mountain Pine like, what did you say, graduated
in what, 74?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
74.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
What was the school like then?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Well, I went to the old school for 11 and
a half years. We came here at midterm.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Was it segregated, the old school?
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Well, segregation was in 65, I believe. The black students
started coming in 65.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I tell people sometimes that our town is still a
bit segregated.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
It is actually segregated.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah. I mean, today, here we are in 2026, and
there's the white quarters and there's the black quarters.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
That's exactly what they call it.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I mean, and we had it when I was— Sawmill talk. Yeah,
we had it when I was here, and obviously when
you were growing up here as well. It's still that
way today, which is crazy to think about. Why do
you think it hasn't changed?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Old-time people, and that's just the way it was, and
that's just the way they keep it, you know? That's
where their houses are, and it's always kind of worked.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Whenever we drove in and I showed them, I'm like, yeah,
we have a white quarters. That's what they called it,
and a black quarters.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, that's what they called it.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Still in 20—it's crazy to think about now that that's
the case.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
You have a nice watch on there. What do you
got there?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Oh, that's my citizen's watch. 30 years from where I
was there.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
So you worked at the mill here for 30 years?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Over 30 years.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
And they gave you that on your, what, your 30th?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yes, 30th anniversary.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
So we had a massive, I mean, it was how
the town was funded, was Warehouse or the sawmill you
worked at for 30 years.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
So were you working there when they shut down?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I was.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
How'd that go?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
It was kind of a shock to a lot of people.
I mean, they just didn't give us much warning. Said
they're going to shut the power off at the powerhouse
and everything. Everybody needs to come in for the meeting.
Everybody that's off, come for the meeting. I didn't go.
I went duck hunting. I knew what was going to happen.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
You knew what they were going to say?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I'd already heard a little bit about it.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
It was a shock to this town.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, it was. It hurt too.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
What's that?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
It hurt too.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah, I mean, it's why people would live here because
all the jobs were here.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
And then once the mill went away, there really wasn't
a reason to move here.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
A lot of people, too. It was a family. I
still see people all the time. They talk about the
good times we had at where I was. I thought, well,
good times. We're working, you know, but I get it now,
you know. It's just like a family, and they start
talking about the people that's passed away. It's been 20 years,
just November. It's been 20 years.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
That the mill shut down?
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
You started, or you were there for 30 years. What
did you start doing there?
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I was a lumber puller in the planter mill, pulling lumber.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
What does that pulling lumber mean?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Uh, lumber comes down on a chain and you pull
it off in a stack. You know, you got your
certain grade. My grade was graded with a zero, an O,
and that's what I pulled. I pulled like 16 foot
O and put it in a stack, you know. It's simple,
manual labor.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
How long did you do that?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
For about six or eight months.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
And then you realized you don't want to do that anymore?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Uh, you just, they just put, you start putting you
on different jobs, giving you more, testing your skills, you know.
I drove a straddle truck after that.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
What's a straddle truck?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
It's a, uh, piece of equipment that would straddle a
load of lumber, a whole bundle of lumber and carry
it somewhere, just one bundle at a time.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
When did you start driving a forklift? Because that's all
I knew.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I drove a forklift and started in 1978 driving a
forklift truck.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Did you have to get forklift certified then?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Not in those days.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Just get on it and see if you can do it?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, get on it and go, yeah. On the job training.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
How long did you drive a forklift?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Oh, the rest of my career there, I ended up
in shipping, in the shipping area. I went there in 1984,
which it's different in shipping than it is in production.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
You were still driving a forklift?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Still driving a forklift.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
So how many years did you drive a fork?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Oh, man. 20, at least 27 years, probably. 27 years.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Do you like it? Yeah. Whatever.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I've done a lot of jobs. I got to move
around a lot and go places, you know? Yeah, it's crazy.
This town's... Drive 20,000 miles a year and never leave
the shed, you know what I mean? Just back and
forth all around.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Where were you born?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Conway. My dad was from here. Dad lived here, but
he was in college at Conway.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
What do you mean lived here?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Well, this is where he's from.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Mountain Pine? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
But him and mother were at Conway. He was going
to college there.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
So your dad went to high school at Mountain Pine?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
He did.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
So he went when it was still segregated.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, he, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Ohio 10.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
The school had burnt, and Dad went to Hot Springs
until his senior year, and then he graduated his senior
year from Mountain Pine.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
When did you move here?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I think I've been here since, like, 58.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
How old were you then?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Just a couple years old.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
So you don't remember moving here?
Speaker 4 (06:58):
No.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Your whole life, you lived in Mountain Pine? Yeah. Same house,
same area?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
No, but pretty much 105 H Street where Mom and
Dad live, yeah. That's where I live from... At least
first grade, before first grade, I've lived there.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
The house that we lived in, did you build that?
Speaker 4 (07:12):
No.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
That was, well, I remember it being Wally Newkirk's home
back when I was a little boy. Wally lived there.
And I guess some other people might have lived there
between that. But Wally Newkirk, I remember living there when
I was a kid, you know, for like 20 years.
I know he lived there that long.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
How long did you live there before we moved in?
Speaker 3 (07:31):
78, I believe, is when I got that house.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
You lived there that long before we got there?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Mm-hmm. I remodeled it sometime in the late 80s. Wow.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I didn't know you lived there that long.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I bought that home in 1978.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
And your mom and dad lived.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
For $ 10, 000.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Well, 1978, it was how much?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
For $ 10, 000.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Your mom and dad lived right around the corner.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
That's where I was raised.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah, and we just walked the alley.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Perfect scenario.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah, back over to their house.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Great, man.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I remember your dad.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Because, I mean, I was 12 and I played sports.
But your dad, even though he was older, would still
want to race me running. Oh, yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I remember the big race.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
It was a humiliation when he beat me.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
It's still talked about to this day.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yes, when he beat me when I was like 12
and I thought I was starting to be a good athlete.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
And your dad, he was probably at that time in
his 60s.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I'm thinking late 50s or early 60s.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Just straight outran me.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
That was not a good moment. Do you remember us
going fishing and I fell in walking across the log?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Here it is.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Because you had gone ahead, and I had my rod
and reel, and you were just like, here's just a log.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
And I remember slipping and falling in with the pole.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
It's hard walking across those logs.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
It wasn't for you. It was for me, obviously. When
I think about the lake, whenever your truck sank, what
do you remember about that?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I remember going, oh, no. And your mom, you know,
it blocked the boat in.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
So you guys drove up. Start me at the beginning
because I'm trying to remember this. The boat's on a trailer.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
You pull up. But if you back the boat in first, right?
Did you do that? Yeah. Then how does the truck
fall in with the trailer on it?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Well, I parked it up the hill. And the battery
was low. It might not start it. So I left
it on the hill where I could get in it
and jump start it when I got ready to go.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Was the trailer still on the truck?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
The trailer was still on the truck. He hit that
big rock and jumped about four foot and blocked the
boat in.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
So did you forget to put the emergency brake on?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
I did. Lifted out of gear. And it rolled down
the hill.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
And you saw it.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I jumped in it, but it went in anyway.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
But you saw it.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
It then hit.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Your mom said, the boat, the truck, the truck. And
it come flying by me. And luckily I was able
to get in it by, Couldn't find the break and
it hit the rock and jumped in the lake.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
And so it falls and it goes all the way down.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
The top was sticking out. The water wasn't that deep.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
How much of the top?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
About four inches.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
That's all of it. the whole truck?
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Yeah, four inches of the top stuck out.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
How did you get the truck out of the lake?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
I had to call a wrecker. That was a bad day.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
That truck was then done, right?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, it was done. That's when I got the little
red one. Remember the red one?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, because that one was silver, right?
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yeah, light blue.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I'm colorblind, obviously. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, that's almost a
core memory of you coming home going, I sunk the truck.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Because it wasn't in gear and the emergency brake wasn't on.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Why do you think you forgot to do those two
things when you always do those two things?
Speaker 3 (10:34):
I was in a hurry. Your mom, you know, if
I'd been by myself, I probably would have, you know,
I was going to get her to the fish. I'd
already caught fish that morning. And I wanted to get
her back there, you know, to catch some too. And Yeah,
I was walking back down to the boat. Here comes
the truck, look out. Bad day.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
So we actually met way before you and my mom
got married. I don't remember this. I don't think it's
a lie because you've told the story. But did you
give me a ride in your Jeep or something sometime?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
No, I brought Cammie and Amanda were little girlfriends.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Your daughter and my sister, yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
And they were little girlfriends and I was off work
with a broke arm. And I was getting ready to go,
and I looked around there, you are, you just wanted
to go too. I said, you don't wanna go with
these girls? Yeah, I wanna go, you know? I said, well,
go ask your mom, you know? And you went and
asked Pam if you could. That's the first time I
met her and you.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Where did we go?
Speaker 3 (11:27):
We went up to Spillway.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Oh, just went to the lake? Yeah. Just to do what?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Just took them swimming, yeah. Another little girl named Sheena
went with us that day. Three little girls and me
and you. You don't remember that?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
No, I don't, and I told the story, but that
was the first time that we ever met. How long
was that until?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
You married my mom.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Oh, about three or four years before that.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Were we living down with my grandma then?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
You lived with your mom in an apartment, at those apartments.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Oh, we lived in the apartments.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Your grandmother managed them.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Got it.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Then you moved out to Marion Anderson Road.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
So then we moved to Lake Hamilton for a while.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
That's when I was dating your mom.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
And then I moved first with my grandma over there
on 8th, 7th? Where your parents lived?
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah, across the road.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, and then we moved over there with you. Now
it's all coming back. Was that weird to have two
extra kids all of a sudden?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Well, the house wasn't prepared for it.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
It was 900 square feet for all of us.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Yeah, when I was redoing it, I thought about adding
on a lot, but I didn't. I wish I had,
you know, because all of a sudden I got more kids.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Was it weird having two extra kids?
Speaker 3 (12:42):
I handled it. I mean, I had to. Work, work, work,
you know.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I remember being a kid and I would, you still
played a lot of softball.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
A few nights a week even for a while.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Were you a good baseball player in high school?
Speaker 3 (13:01):
We didn't have a high school team, but I played
baseball in Hot Springs. Fair, just like I was a
softball player.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
And then we started playing softball and then for some
reason you let me at, 12 years old, playing the
men's league team.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I remember you playing as maybe 11th grade and doing
real well. Remember we played for the Hot Springs team too.
I mean, St. Joseph's Hospital, that's what we played for.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I remember because we had actual jerseys and I thought
that was cool.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah, St. Joseph's Hospital. That was my last year to play.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, by 11th grade, I kind of felt a little
bit comfortable. When I was a little younger than that,
I probably wasn't as comfortable. I remember being over at,
Was it Ball Dome Park?
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Ball Mountain.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Ball Mountain Park when the OJ Simpson chase happened.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah. We were playing over there and over the concession stand.
They were going, OJ Simpson's running in a white Bronco.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
And we walked over there in.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Between games because we played two games a night and
the OJ chase was on television.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
So we played a lot of softball. Never moved out
of the house. When you moved out of the house,
that was weird.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Why'd you end up moving?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Just moving on to bigger and better things, I guess.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Was it weird to move out of Mountain Pine?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Kind of, but I'm in Mountain Pine every day anyway.
I come back over here. I still have that property
here where I keep my stuff. I'm in Mountain Pine
every day.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Just for that, or do you come to Mountain Pine
because you're going to hunt and fish?
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Hunt and fish and just everything.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
How long ago did you retire?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Full time about four years ago, three years ago.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
So you go to high school in Mountain Pine. What
was your goal when you were graduating high school? What
did you want to do?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Get out of school, get a diploma, and not have
to go to Vietnam.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Really?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yeah. Was that scary to everybody, to have to go
to Vietnam?
Speaker 3 (14:44):
It was getting scary, but, you know, they kind of
quit the draft in 73, so everything was pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
And you guys went 74? Yeah. So you got lucky
by a year. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Did you feel in 72 and even early 73 that
you could get called in?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
You know, it started slowing down, but they were still drafting.
You know, I'm thinking, well, you know, good chance of it.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Would you watch on television? Did you see when they
were drafting, what they put on the TV?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Was that scary to watch?
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Not when I was a little guy, but as you
get older, you start thinking, hey, I'm in the 10th grade.
This could be me.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Would they do a birthday draft? It was a lottery.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
It worked on your birthday, I believe.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
So they'd pull a ball and they would go like,
April 13th. And if your birthday's April 13th, your butt
puck goes, and you're like, oh my God, that's me?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
To be watching television and know that you Just got
your birthday drawn, and now you're probably going to have
to go overseas and fight.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah, and as soon as they did that, then they
would show the death totals, how many KIA they were
and how many.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Why would they do that right next to that?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
That's the way they did it. It was on the
news every night.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
That's a terrible order to do that in.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
That's the way they do it.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
So once you realized you weren't going to Vietnam, then
what did you want to do?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Just get a job at the mill and work with
my buddies. We had fun, you know. All my buddies
worked there. Making good money, too.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
That's kind of what everybody did here in town, too.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Good job, good job for right here. Everybody right here
at home, yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Did you think you'd work there for 30-plus years?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
No, not really. But I got tied in. Insurance, you know,
when you got children, you think about insurance and all
the other benefits you get besides your salary. And my retirement,
which I'm very proud of now, you know, get retirement. So, yeah,
it wasn't a bad deal. I made the right decision,
I guess.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
You still have gold bars?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Gold coins?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Gold coins, yeah. I have gold coins, plenty. I like it.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
That's pretty cool. You've been saving that up for a while, huh?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yeah, close to 10 years now.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
What was I like as a high school kid?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Oh, kind of a little nerdy, but still.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
No, tell the truth. I do want the truth.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
A little nerdy and, you know, just always kind of,
The highlight of the day, you know, just being funny.
And it used to piss me off with the turning
the radio on. I'd go get in the truck, take
you guys to school. You'd have the radio turned on,
turn the truck on, the radio would be blaring, you know.
I'd look over and you'd be smiling like, yeah, I
did that. You know what I mean? That kind of stuff.
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That's the kind of kid you were, you know.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
One of my core memories of us being in the truck,
especially like all the Toyotas, it feels like it was
always in a Toyota.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
It was Toyota.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
It was always a Toyota.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Was listening to that Cool 95. And I think there
are two things that I still got from you that
affect me every day because I just know so much
about it.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
One, it's classic rock.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
60s and 70s.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
That's all I listen to then.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
That's all you listen to.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
And for me, I would try to learn the songs
and we'd play how quickly can you name the song.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
You got pretty good at it really quick. I got
pretty good. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
And I still am able to use that in my
job now because now I have a robust knowledge of
60s and 70s classic rock.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Like even like Long Cold Woman comes on.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
I'm like, hollies.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
That's my song.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah. And then even old baseball.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
I mean, I think I could probably recite how 1969
went baseball-wise.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
My heart still kind of got a big chunk knocked
out from 69. Stupid Miracle Mets. Yeah. Stupid Mets.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Took the Cubs. Cubs had a huge league.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Stupid Mets.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Miracle Mets. And did the Mets beat the Orioles in
the World Series?
Speaker 3 (18:21):
They also did beat them back here. 1969 World Series.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I wasn't even alive and I'm sad. But people will
ask me, how are you a Cubs fan?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
And it is only because you were a Cubs fan.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
Right.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
And man, I watched, if it was summertime, I watched
every game. Because they did all day games on WGN.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Most people here are Cardinal fans.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Big rivalry, but yeah, I liked the Cubs.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Did you almost name your daughter after Ryan Sandberg?
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I would have done it, but it wasn't going to happen,
you know.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
But it was a girl.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
If it had been a boy.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
It was going to be Seth Ryan or Ryan Seth,
one of the two.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
After Ryan Sandberg, the second baseman for the Cubs. One
of the cool things for me was the first time
I got to go and throw the first pitch out
at Wrigley Field, I took you with me.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
That was awesome.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
What do you remember about that?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I'm still just paralyzed from it every time I think
about it. It was an awesome day to be out
on the field at Wrigley. Come on, man. Yeah, it
was a good day.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Went to the game, went down on.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Cubs got beat.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Do you remember who pitched?
Speaker 3 (19:18):
No.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
It was John Lester.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, Cubs got beat, but that doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
They got blew out, remember?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
No, because what I remember thinking about was, one, I
was super excited because I was throwing the first pitch out,
but I was mostly excited because you hadn't been yet.
And then when you were getting to go, we got
to go on the field, and I got to throw
the first pitch out.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
That was awesome. Awesome day, man.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Because Wrigley Field just felt like Hollywood, like something you
don't really see.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
It's still a great place, man.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
It's like something you see on TV.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
That maybe you never get to go.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor.
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Speaker 2 (20:07):
So high school was a bit nerdy. I move off
and go to college. Then what?
Speaker 3 (20:14):
You graduated.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
That was awesome. Your mom's so proud, you know. We
went to see you graduate. That was awesome.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
And then life just went on and on and on. Work, work, work,
you know. Warehouse had demanded a lot of hours off
your schedule, from my schedule. I worked a lot.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Were you still driving a forklift?
Speaker 3 (20:34):
I was. To the day it ended, I was doing it.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Do you think you'd still be doing that right now?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
I could probably still be driving around on a Ford truck.
It's not that hard.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
What I remember is you'd be at work all day.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I'd be at school all day or after school, be
practicing football or whatever.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I was doing. And then you'd be on the lake.
And sometimes I'd go out with you. Weekends, yes. Mornings
on the weekends, yes. But God dang, I hated cold
in mornings.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Yeah, that cold water down here.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I just hate the cold weather. Like, you love the woods.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Yes, I do.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
It is your favorite place to be.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
You love hunting.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
I just love being in the woods and outdoors.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
People will see me and they'll know me now. And
I dress like this. I wear a cardigan every day.
Some would say even nerdy now. And they'll go, oh, you.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Ever been hunting?
Speaker 1 (21:27):
And I'm like, you have no idea how I grew up.
And I can list them through it. Like when you
got me a 410, then I went to a 20 gauge.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Then we had a 12 gauge.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
And these were all your guns that you would just
give me as I got better at them. And that
I have, again, if we talk about robust knowledges, I
don't have handgun knowledge at all.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
But I do have, I'm pretty good with a shotgun.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
And I think that surprises people sometimes.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Well, they're totally different works. You know, shooting a shotgun
is more of a timing thing, you know, especially when
you're shooting. Yeah, your Uncle Bud bought you the 14,
I remember that. He had a 14. It hurt.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
We went and shot it.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yeah, yeah. Then you got the 20. Dad's 20 gauge.
My dad's 20 gauge.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
That's probably my favorite gun. Yeah. That 20 gauge.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I still wish I had that one, actually.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
It was kind of a little kicking gun for a
20 gauge.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yeah, it sucked. It hurt. Yeah. Do you have that one?
Speaker 3 (22:18):
I still have it.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
You still have that one?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
How many guns do you think you have now?
Speaker 3 (22:22):
I got about 15. 10 guns in all. I got
two of everything.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Do you use all 15?
Speaker 5 (22:28):
No.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Not at once. I have a rifle and a backup rifle.
And then I have a. 22 and a backup.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
22.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
And I have a shotgun and a couple of backup shotguns.
You got to have a lot of shotguns if you're
a hunter.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Depending on what you're hunting, obviously.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
And then I got some handguns and a lot of handguns.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Would you rather be in the woods or on the lake?
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Well, I'm a seasonal guy and the same thing every year.
You know, Boy, that's a tough question. Springtime rolls around.
You know, you want to go fishing. Well, I can't
wait to catch our crappies biting, mollies biting. But then
you're just busting to go turkey hunting. It's right around
the corner, you know, and that's all it's about, you know.
You can't concentrate on fishing because turkey season's coming in.
(23:16):
That kind of messes up your spring fishing, you know,
going turkey hunting. Because I'm trying to go every day
if I can. Then it gets hot summer, you're back
on the lake, and you're not really worried about hunting then.
You know, okay, it's gone, so. You're really into fishing,
or I am. And then this time of year, I'm
starting to generate up on hunting. As soon as it
(23:37):
cools off in the cool weather, you want to go
hunting then. I don't worry about fishing in the winter.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
What are your five favorite things to hunt, number one?
Speaker 3 (23:46):
I like the waterfowl hunt, probably number one.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
So ducks? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
The fun thing about ducks is that they go fast.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
It's fast. That's fun.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
The bad thing about ducks is, and I think you
could probably tell the story, I fell in.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
And it sucked. You gotta watch what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
And you had waders on, obviously.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Yeah, they fill up with water.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
And they fill up with water.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
It's nasty.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
And you know what I did afterward? What? You know
what I did. Once I fell in the cold water
with my waders on, I did what?
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Well, I don't know. You got a cold, didn't you?
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Went back to the truck.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Took them off and just sat in the truck for
three hours while you guys stayed on the lake and
sat in the heater.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
That sucked. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
That's all you can do. Unless you got other clothes
with you.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
No, I didn't have that. Number two.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Uh. turkeys really yeah they're fun to hunt they're very
elusive and hard.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
It's hard yeah i feel like that's a harder one
to hunt.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
It is because it's like kind of like ducks you're
calling them and enticing them and trying to bring them
in close for a shot and then you know deer
hunting would be number three but deer hunting's just sitting.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
There waiting a lot you know i hate it still hunting.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yeah and guys nowadays we've lost the deer hunting skill
everybody wants to go out and pile up a bag
of corn you know and Not hunting on the ground,
we're hunting stands, you know. I don't know, it's just not,
I like it, but it's not my number one, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Number four.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I like to hunt squirrels.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Still?
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yeah, I still hunt squirrels. I went out the other
morning in the heat and shot a couple, yeah. I
got some old friends that like them, so I shot
a couple.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Five?
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Two.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Do squirrels? No, we did number five on the list.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Oh, number five.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Oh, number five. I guess it would be wing shooting.
I don't do it anymore, but I would love to,
like hunt quail or pheasants or something. Every time I
get an opportunity to do.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
It, I do it. We never had a good bird dog.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
No.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Have you had a good bird dog since then?
Speaker 3 (25:39):
I have had several good bird dogs in my life.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
We went with people that had good bird dogs that
would point and they would not move. That to me
was the craziest thing, to watch a dog point and
hold that point regardless of what was happening.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Do you remember Rambo, the old dog I took in?
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Good bird dog?
Speaker 3 (25:55):
He was pretty good.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
He would hold a point?
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yep. He's old, but I took me and your Uncle
Bub went out with him, and Bub was fascinated by him.
He was just an old guy ready to leave the world, though.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
What about when you were, like, striper guiding, taking people out?
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Yeah, that was some good fishing.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
How long did you do that?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
A couple years.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Was that more for fun, or did you make any
money doing that?
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Didn't make no money. I was just helping. You don't
make money doing that.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
So you just take people out, catch shad. Right. And
then catch striper.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Right. The fish that my mom had mounted, because you
were with her, you guys caught that.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Right.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
What's that story?
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Your mom was just home from surgery, resting up, and
we were up there walking the dog, and they turned
the water on, and you know, that's just like ringing
the dinner bell.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
At the dam, so the cold water starts coming out.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
And she had started, I said, let's go fishing. She said, okay,
so we went back home, got the boat, put the
boat in, and So as we're putting the boat in
right by the ramp, the launching ramp, there's a bunch
of big shad, I net them. And I put her
on the shad and she had her little Zebco, you know,
and 10 pound test line.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
By the way, a couple things for people that don't know.
First of all, shad are these small fish that Keith
was really good at spreading a net, catching them, and
we'd use them as bait to catch the bigger fish.
And the Zebco is that little round reel with the
button push that is like a child's rod and reel, basically.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Kind of, not made for catching. Yeah. But anyway, she
put one of those on. She hooks a big striper, pow,
breaks a line immediately. And I got one. Use my pole.
It's got some, like, 17-pound test line on it. And
I put another shadow on it. She couldn't even throw it.
It was a bait caster. She just didn't get it
four foot from the boat. And I looked out there,
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and I saw it swimming on top. I said, I
think one's after it. And I reached down to get
another reel and rod. I heard, kaboom, big splash, you know.
She goes, I got him.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
That thing was singing across the river, you know. I thought, oh,
my God. I said, get that pole up. You know,
it's exciting. I said, get your pole up. Get your
pole up. Well, she, what do I do? Anyway, she
finally got the, I reached and pushed it up to her,
and she had it bent over.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Did she have it, like, stuck in her stomach?
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Dug in?
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Oh, yeah. And she had, you know, she just, I said, sorry,
but she's holding it. It's just ripping. And I thought,
you know, the drag on those, that was an old
red Ambassador 5000. That drag, it goes, kind of hard
to pull it out, but. Anyway, she was fighting it,
and I thought, oh, it's going to hang her over there.
And then it got on the other side, and it
took off up the river.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Was it pulling the boat at all?
Speaker 3 (28:28):
It was, finally. We got out there, pulling upstream. I thought, oh,
my God, he's going upstream. I knew them was going
to get him, you know. And she pretty much reeled
him around and fought him back by, and he come
by the boat in that clear water. She says, get
the net, baby, get the net. And I said, he
ain't going in the net.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
You could tell it was large.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Yeah. And she pulled him around there, and I rushed
down and got him and threw him in the boat.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
How big was it?
Speaker 3 (28:49):
42 pound. Crazy. He gassed one time and he was
over with. He was just falling.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
She got a 42 pound striper.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
You guys, but she got a 42 pound. And we
had that mount on our house forever.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Yeah, he was zipping. Let me tell you, he was
mean for a little bit. She's lucky to get him in.
She's real lucky.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Because?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
If he'd have went downstream, we'd still be trying to
get him, you know, with that current. We couldn't have
done anything.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Why would he go upstream then?
Speaker 3 (29:17):
I don't know. It's crazy. He went over towards those docks,
and I'm thinking it might have been a little eddy
over there or something, and he didn't realize what, he
got in that, trying to go to deeper water, I guess.
I don't really understand that at all. But we got him,
that's the main thing.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Is that the biggest fish that you've been in the boat,
when one's been caught?
Speaker 3 (29:35):
I've caught some 40-pounders myself.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Have you caught one bigger than that one?
Speaker 3 (29:38):
As big, but not bigger. I think she still got
me beat by a little bit. Probably like a pound
or so.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
It's summer, so you're not on the lake very often now.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
No.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
It's getting really hot. Fish ain't doing much.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Top five fish to catch, number one? Walleye. Because it
eats the best.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
It eats the best.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Okay, so it can be either what eats the best
or what's the most fun to catch. But you're going
to go walleye because for sure it eats the best.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Number two.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Crappie.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Also eats the best, yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
And they're fun to catch too.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
And then I'm going to say bass, stripers, and then
anything else that bites, you know.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I could be wrong here, but I always felt like
it was a little more fun to catch the hybrids,
which was striper, white bass mix, obviously. Not because they
were bigger than stripers because they weren't, but because Those suckers,
they fought.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
They do some fight.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
They were like mid, but they fought harder than anything else.
And those were the most fun to catch.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Yeah, and you could release them and they would swim away.
They weren't like stripers, you know. You release a striper
and he struggles, you know. He stresses out. And then
catch him again, you know. I love that. Yeah, I've
caught them before where they break somebody's line and have
a hook and somebody else is hooking them. I got
me another hook now.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
You just took the hook out of that one and
you kept that one?
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Yeah, I kept the hook.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
What did you just buy?
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Oh, a side-by-side, a Honda.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
So one of the big.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
That's the first time you bought one of those?
Speaker 3 (31:01):
It's a two-seater, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Why'd you need that?
Speaker 3 (31:03):
I don't know that I needed it. You sound like
some other people. I mean, I got it to ride
around in. It's a little bit more safer and a
little bit more easier to get around.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Ride around in where? If you just go out in
the woods? Yeah, woods.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
That kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
When did you get it?
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
So a couple days ago.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Just a couple days ago.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
So you're hauling it home on the trailer. What happens?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Well, we haul it in my cousin's trailer, but I
went to get me a trailer. And when I got
my new trailer, the wheel about came off.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Of the new trailer?
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Of the new trailer.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
How did you know the wheel was coming off?
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Well, I've been about to come off. I look back
and I saw a guy pull up by me, started
honking a horn.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
He said, hey, buddy, you got flat.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
I look back and I'm just going crazy. About to
come off.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
So then what do you do?
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Pulled on Chick-fil-A and said, hey man, I need some
lug nuts. This wheel's about to come off. So they
just brought me another trailer.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
And they took the old one?
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yeah, just dropped the road to Atwoods.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Have you taken it out yet?
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I've driven it, but not really.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Just around the house?
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Yeah, I put a high line a couple times.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Because what we would do is if someone would kill
a deer, we would just, I think you had the
same four-wheeler that you had then.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Same four-wheeler you rode, I still have.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah. You'd just bungee it to the back and drag
it out.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Does this make it easier where you don't have to
bungee it to the back?
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Yeah, heck yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
You just throw it in?
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Throw it up in a little bed or there's a,
I got a receptacle you can hook in there too
and lay it on that. Yeah, it's a lot better.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Do you have a barn or like a shed at
your house like we had where you had all the
clips so we could skin the deer there?
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Do you have that now?
Speaker 3 (32:34):
It's not as active there as it is. you know,
that place was active.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Yeah, because other people would use it too.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Yeah, home and out.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
We would just look back, there'd be a truck back
in the shed, and we would just assume it's somebody
back there.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Yeah, your mom one day when it was raining said, well,
we've had 10 deer today. Because people would keep coming
by and just hanging them. Because it was raining outside
and they didn't have a place to stay inside, so
they'd just hang them up in our shed and shed them. Yeah,
that was a deer skinning shed for a long time.
It's an awesome place.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
How many days a week do you get out hunting
or fishing?
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Uh, I'm out every day in the outdoors. Maybe not hunting,
but I'm out with my dog or I go check
my cameras, feeders. I like the outdoors. I'm out every day.
Very few days I don't get out in the outdoors.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Do you like being retired?
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I love it. Wish I did it two years earlier.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Do you have enough money? Are you good?
Speaker 3 (33:25):
For what I live, I'm probably going to die of
live money. All I want to do is have a
little fun now and then.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
The Bobbycast. We'll be right back. This is The Bobbycast.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
What was it like for you whenever my career started
to get kind of weird and big?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Do I know?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
When my career started to get a little big and
weird and meaning it just.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
I thought, wow, where's this going to end?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
I said, he is going to get... But you had
said one time you wanted to be Letterman. I thought,
maybe he will be Letterman.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Because it was here first. It was KLAZ, and it
was just local. It was Hot Springs. And that, to me,
was really cool.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
He's doing what you wanted, though. I'm real proud about that.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
And then it was Little Rock.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
And then I moved to Texas, and then it was
kind of like, all right, I'm out of here. And
then from there, it started to kind of grow nationally.
When I started to do TV, that always felt kind
of fun because that meant everybody could watch, like, all
over the place.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
When I did Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Oh, man.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
What did you think about that?
Speaker 3 (34:27):
I liked it. I still, every time I hear that song, man,
I have to go out there. I start playing it, man,
or I get it up on video playing it.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
The one from The Greatest Showman? No. Which song?
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Oh, come on, help me out here.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
I don't know. I dance to a lot of them.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
The one where you dance to Hammer.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Oh, you can't touch this.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Yeah, you can't touch it. Yeah. Every time I hear
that song, it brings me back to that.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
That had to be weird, though, to watch me dance.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
We was just watching it the other day. Somebody and
I were, and. And it was weird.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Did you think I would win?
Speaker 3 (35:02):
No, not at first. Then I started thinking, maybe he
is going to win, you know?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
At what point did you think I had a chance?
Speaker 3 (35:11):
About the third one from the end, yeah. I thought,
he's going to win this dang thing, you know. Because
you had good fan base, Matthew. He is going to
win it, yeah. I felt pretty good about it.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Did you watch the finale?
Speaker 3 (35:21):
I did.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
When I won?
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Who didn't watch it in Mountain Pine? Who didn't, you know?
Everybody watched it. It was awesome. I liked it when
you jumped up on the desk in front of an
old dude, you know?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Yeah, that was what, yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
He didn't like you.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
He didn't.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
He did when we weren't on camera. We were on camera,
he didn't like me because I didn't know what I
was doing. I didn't have a lot of dance. Who
are your five favorite bands of all time, musically or artists,
number one?
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Chris Clearwater, probably.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Which is why I love CCR so much.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
When I had John Fogerty over at the house, after
it finished, you were the first person I texted, and
I was like, add John Fogerty over at my house.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
I mean. He's always going to be something to me,
you know, because I listen to them guys religiously, you know.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Number two?
Speaker 3 (36:05):
I'm leaning towards ZZ Top now, man. You know, I
really like listening to them anymore. I like, you know,
Sharp Dressed Man is one of my favorite songs, and
She Got Legs, I like those songs. ACDC's always going
to be a favorite of mine, too.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Three ACDC?
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Yeah, I like ACDC. And then I'm going to have
to go back to maybe some older ones. I like
the Guess Who. I really liked it. Listen to Guess Who.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Which is different than The Who.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
And I know that from Muscle Ascendant. Cool, 95.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
And then number five?
Speaker 3 (36:34):
I would say probably some classic stuff, maybe like The Stones.
I kind of like The Stones, too. They've been around
a lot. I painted black all the way in to
start me up to everything. So, yeah, I like The Stones.
I put them in there.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Whenever you come on the radio show, do people go, hey,
I heard you on the radio?
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Yeah, sometimes. Yeah, they do.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Do people call you Arkansas Keith?
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Quite a few people do here and there yeah which is.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Kind of weird because I just needed to call you
something other than Keith because I don't call you Arkansas
Keith yeah I just I've always called you Keith and
so we were talking on the show the other day
like what will the baby our baby and you've met
Billy what will the baby call Keith or call what
do you want her to call.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
You by my name Keith that's what I said yeah
I said the same thing I call him Keith yeah
she can call him Keith yeah yeah What's she going
to call me? I don't know. Keith. That's right.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
That's your name. So what will you do today after this?
What's on the agenda?
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Well, I'm going, since I live here, I'm going to
go to Mount Pine, get on my four-wheeler and go
check my cameras and put some corn out. Getting close
to deer season.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
I thought you just said deer season is weird because
people cheat and use corn and cameras.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I cheat too.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Okay. Okay, good.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
All right.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Fair enough.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
But it comes in before duck season. See, that's how
it all works out for you. Cause they're not all
coming in at the same time. You got deer season,
then duck season. So, you know, you can deer hunt
and duck hunt. And then turkey season's in the spring.
So it works out pretty good for you. I'm a
seasonal guy, let me tell you. Every year as the
season's coming in, I'm getting more excited about that, so.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Got your mountain pine shirt on. I do. You still
go to the games. You text me from the games going,
here's the score.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Mountain pine games. I make them, you know.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
We're struggling because we went from 8-man to 11-man. Absolutely.
And so it's been hard, and rightfully so.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Right.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Because we— Small school. Yeah, small school.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Sad.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Tough.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Mill goes away, and then school choice hurt us a lot.
Because if you're a good athlete, you go to a
bigger school that comes and poaches you.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
And, you know, we— well, yeah, like you said, people leaving,
you know. I don't want to mention no names, but
we got a couple I really, going to Lake Hamilton,
we could really use, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Does that make you sad?
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
It makes me sad sometimes, too.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
It's why I come back, and I do enough here,
just because I feel like I kind of am indebted,
because there were people in my life, mostly you, because
I was, whenever we moved in with you, was I
12 or 13, probably?
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Yeah, sixth grade, I think.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
So that'd be 12? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
So definitely you, but definitely also people like Coach Gandalf
was a big part of my life.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
I got to know him well when I played with
the coaches. I liked to be, I played softball with
the coaches. there with Terry Bleece and them and I
got to know him real well. He's a good guy.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
And like Robert Parker.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Yeah, I see Robert all the time.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Youth director of the church.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Great guy.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
So like there's a big group that helped me. That's
why I come back and do this because people help
me here.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yeah. And if I come back for 30 years, I
want to get one of those watches. That's what it is, right?
If I keep coming back, I get one of those watches?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
We'll get you one of them Timexes with the fake gold.
How about that?
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Well, I got a pretty good one here, though. I
got a pretty good one. And you didn't really know
you were going to do this?
Speaker 3 (39:58):
No.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
No. You feel good about it?
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Yeah. I'm okay with it.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
You don't really care, then?
Speaker 3 (40:03):
I like talking.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
It is what it is.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
I like talking.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
It's fun.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Your health's good?
Speaker 3 (40:07):
I'm kicking right on, man, for a 70-year-old. I'm 70.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
You're 70 now?
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Yeah, don't say that out loud, though. I don't like it.
I had a hard time turning 70. You know, 69,
I'm flying all through the 60s. But 70, I started
thinking about, oh, my God, I'm 70 now. Yeah, I'm
70 years old. I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
I took it pretty hard. Harder than anything. Harder than 30,
harder than pretty tough.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
You're good for 70.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Yeah, I mean, I feel good.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Do you exercise at all?
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Oh, yeah, a little bit every day. Just nothing serious,
but I stretch every morning, and I do a little
bit of lightweight lifting, you know. And I can do
some push-ups, man. I bet I can do 10 right now.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
You know, I'm not going to call you on it.
You want to challenge me? I don't want to challenge you.
The one thing, and we'll end on this, is that
you still text in green because you don't have Apple.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Yeah, I don't know what that means. I text on
my phone.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Your phone is not Apple. It's not an iPhone. Yeah,
so it's green.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
It's Android.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Yeah, it's Android. You committed to it?
Speaker 3 (41:13):
It works for me.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
You don't care? Do you use apps at all?
Speaker 1 (41:16):
No.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Everybody says, you ought to get this certain hunting app.
I don't need it. I know where I'm going.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
So you use your phone for what?
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Texting, making phone calls, and maybe a little research every
now and then on the Cubs or the White Sox.
I kind of get to be a White Sox fan, too.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
You're now a White Sox fan a little bit?
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Okay. Thank you for doing this with me. I really
appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
It's cool.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
All right.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
There he is, the great Arkansas Keith.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Later.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
Later.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
Later.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
Thanks for listening to a Bobbycast production.
This is one of the most personal Bobbycats that I've
ever done. And it's with my former stepdad, who we
call Arkansas Keith. I went back to Mountain Pine, my hometown,
and I sat with Arkansas Keith for about an hour.
And we were at my old high school auditorium whenever
we shot this, which explains the big curtain behind us.
And also the crappy chairs, because people were saying, I
(00:23):
can't believe you set them in such crappy chairs. It's
the only chairs they had in my old high school auditorium.
What do you people want? But I do call him
my former stepdad because my mom married him when I
was 12 or 13. He was my stepdad until probably
18 or 19. They did get divorced before my mom died,
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but he was really one of the only stable influences
in my life from my early teenage years all the
way until I graduated college and even until today. We
still have a great relationship. We are still very close.
He was one of the first people to meet baby Billy.
So when I say former, mostly that's because him and
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my mom got divorced before she died. I think if
they would have been together when she died, I would
still say my stepdad. Either way, we're still very close.
He is for sure family. And now here he is,
the great Arkansas Keith.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
All right. So we both went to school here. Was
this auditorium here when you were here?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
It was not, only the main building.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
When did you graduate Mount Vine?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
1974.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
What was the school, did they smoke here outside?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
At the old school they did. I'm sure they did
here too, but I don't remember where, but at the
old school they smoked at the burner.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I don't know if they had a place here when
you were in school that it was, hey, you could
just go outside and smoke. Yeah. Was it allowed here?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
It was allowed.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Is that crazy thinking back about that?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Sometimes it's really crazy. I mean, how smoking is. Now,
and it was then, everybody just accepted, even the teachers smoked.
With the students? I seen, yeah, a few times.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Because it wasn't a weird deal, it was just everybody
just went out.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Smoking was just acceptable then.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
What was Mountain Pine like, what did you say, graduated
in what, 74?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
74.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
What was the school like then?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Well, I went to the old school for 11 and
a half years. We came here at midterm.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Was it segregated, the old school?
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Well, segregation was in 65, I believe. The black students
started coming in 65.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I tell people sometimes that our town is still a
bit segregated.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
It is actually segregated.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah. I mean, today, here we are in 2026, and
there's the white quarters and there's the black quarters.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
That's exactly what they call it.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I mean, and we had it when I was— Sawmill talk. Yeah,
we had it when I was here, and obviously when
you were growing up here as well. It's still that
way today, which is crazy to think about. Why do
you think it hasn't changed?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Old-time people, and that's just the way it was, and
that's just the way they keep it, you know? That's
where their houses are, and it's always kind of worked.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Whenever we drove in and I showed them, I'm like, yeah,
we have a white quarters. That's what they called it,
and a black quarters.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, that's what they called it.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Still in 20—it's crazy to think about now that that's
the case.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
You have a nice watch on there. What do you
got there?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Oh, that's my citizen's watch. 30 years from where I
was there.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
So you worked at the mill here for 30 years?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Over 30 years.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
And they gave you that on your, what, your 30th?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yes, 30th anniversary.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
So we had a massive, I mean, it was how
the town was funded, was Warehouse or the sawmill you
worked at for 30 years.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
So were you working there when they shut down?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I was.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
How'd that go?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
It was kind of a shock to a lot of people.
I mean, they just didn't give us much warning. Said
they're going to shut the power off at the powerhouse
and everything. Everybody needs to come in for the meeting.
Everybody that's off, come for the meeting. I didn't go.
I went duck hunting. I knew what was going to happen.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
You knew what they were going to say?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I'd already heard a little bit about it.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
It was a shock to this town.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, it was. It hurt too.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
What's that?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
It hurt too.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah, I mean, it's why people would live here because
all the jobs were here.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
And then once the mill went away, there really wasn't
a reason to move here.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
A lot of people, too. It was a family. I
still see people all the time. They talk about the
good times we had at where I was. I thought, well,
good times. We're working, you know, but I get it now,
you know. It's just like a family, and they start
talking about the people that's passed away. It's been 20 years,
just November. It's been 20 years.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
That the mill shut down?
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
You started, or you were there for 30 years. What
did you start doing there?
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I was a lumber puller in the planter mill, pulling lumber.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
What does that pulling lumber mean?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Uh, lumber comes down on a chain and you pull
it off in a stack. You know, you got your
certain grade. My grade was graded with a zero, an O,
and that's what I pulled. I pulled like 16 foot
O and put it in a stack, you know. It's simple,
manual labor.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
How long did you do that?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
For about six or eight months.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
And then you realized you don't want to do that anymore?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Uh, you just, they just put, you start putting you
on different jobs, giving you more, testing your skills, you know.
I drove a straddle truck after that.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
What's a straddle truck?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
It's a, uh, piece of equipment that would straddle a
load of lumber, a whole bundle of lumber and carry
it somewhere, just one bundle at a time.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
When did you start driving a forklift? Because that's all
I knew.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I drove a forklift and started in 1978 driving a
forklift truck.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Did you have to get forklift certified then?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Not in those days.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Just get on it and see if you can do it?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, get on it and go, yeah. On the job training.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
How long did you drive a forklift?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Oh, the rest of my career there, I ended up
in shipping, in the shipping area. I went there in 1984,
which it's different in shipping than it is in production.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
You were still driving a forklift?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Still driving a forklift.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
So how many years did you drive a fork?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Oh, man. 20, at least 27 years, probably. 27 years.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Do you like it? Yeah. Whatever.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I've done a lot of jobs. I got to move
around a lot and go places, you know? Yeah, it's crazy.
This town's... Drive 20,000 miles a year and never leave
the shed, you know what I mean? Just back and
forth all around.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Where were you born?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Conway. My dad was from here. Dad lived here, but
he was in college at Conway.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
What do you mean lived here?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Well, this is where he's from.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Mountain Pine? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
But him and mother were at Conway. He was going
to college there.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
So your dad went to high school at Mountain Pine?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
He did.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
So he went when it was still segregated.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, he, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Ohio 10.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
The school had burnt, and Dad went to Hot Springs
until his senior year, and then he graduated his senior
year from Mountain Pine.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
When did you move here?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I think I've been here since, like, 58.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
How old were you then?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Just a couple years old.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
So you don't remember moving here?
Speaker 4 (06:58):
No.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Your whole life, you lived in Mountain Pine? Yeah. Same house,
same area?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
No, but pretty much 105 H Street where Mom and
Dad live, yeah. That's where I live from... At least
first grade, before first grade, I've lived there.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
The house that we lived in, did you build that?
Speaker 4 (07:12):
No.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
That was, well, I remember it being Wally Newkirk's home
back when I was a little boy. Wally lived there.
And I guess some other people might have lived there
between that. But Wally Newkirk, I remember living there when
I was a kid, you know, for like 20 years.
I know he lived there that long.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
How long did you live there before we moved in?
Speaker 3 (07:31):
78, I believe, is when I got that house.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
You lived there that long before we got there?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Mm-hmm. I remodeled it sometime in the late 80s. Wow.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I didn't know you lived there that long.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I bought that home in 1978.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
And your mom and dad lived.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
For $ 10, 000.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Well, 1978, it was how much?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
For $ 10, 000.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Your mom and dad lived right around the corner.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
That's where I was raised.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah, and we just walked the alley.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Perfect scenario.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah, back over to their house.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Great, man.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I remember your dad.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Because, I mean, I was 12 and I played sports.
But your dad, even though he was older, would still
want to race me running. Oh, yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I remember the big race.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
It was a humiliation when he beat me.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
It's still talked about to this day.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yes, when he beat me when I was like 12
and I thought I was starting to be a good athlete.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
And your dad, he was probably at that time in
his 60s.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I'm thinking late 50s or early 60s.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Just straight outran me.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
That was not a good moment. Do you remember us
going fishing and I fell in walking across the log?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Here it is.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Because you had gone ahead, and I had my rod
and reel, and you were just like, here's just a log.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
And I remember slipping and falling in with the pole.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
It's hard walking across those logs.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
It wasn't for you. It was for me, obviously. When
I think about the lake, whenever your truck sank, what
do you remember about that?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I remember going, oh, no. And your mom, you know,
it blocked the boat in.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
So you guys drove up. Start me at the beginning
because I'm trying to remember this. The boat's on a trailer.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
You pull up. But if you back the boat in first, right?
Did you do that? Yeah. Then how does the truck
fall in with the trailer on it?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Well, I parked it up the hill. And the battery
was low. It might not start it. So I left
it on the hill where I could get in it
and jump start it when I got ready to go.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Was the trailer still on the truck?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
The trailer was still on the truck. He hit that
big rock and jumped about four foot and blocked the
boat in.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
So did you forget to put the emergency brake on?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
I did. Lifted out of gear. And it rolled down
the hill.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
And you saw it.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I jumped in it, but it went in anyway.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
But you saw it.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
It then hit.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Your mom said, the boat, the truck, the truck. And
it come flying by me. And luckily I was able
to get in it by, Couldn't find the break and
it hit the rock and jumped in the lake.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
And so it falls and it goes all the way down.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
The top was sticking out. The water wasn't that deep.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
How much of the top?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
About four inches.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
That's all of it. the whole truck?
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Yeah, four inches of the top stuck out.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
How did you get the truck out of the lake?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
I had to call a wrecker. That was a bad day.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
That truck was then done, right?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, it was done. That's when I got the little
red one. Remember the red one?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, because that one was silver, right?
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yeah, light blue.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I'm colorblind, obviously. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, that's almost a
core memory of you coming home going, I sunk the truck.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Because it wasn't in gear and the emergency brake wasn't on.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Why do you think you forgot to do those two
things when you always do those two things?
Speaker 3 (10:34):
I was in a hurry. Your mom, you know, if
I'd been by myself, I probably would have, you know,
I was going to get her to the fish. I'd
already caught fish that morning. And I wanted to get
her back there, you know, to catch some too. And Yeah,
I was walking back down to the boat. Here comes
the truck, look out. Bad day.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
So we actually met way before you and my mom
got married. I don't remember this. I don't think it's
a lie because you've told the story. But did you
give me a ride in your Jeep or something sometime?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
No, I brought Cammie and Amanda were little girlfriends.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Your daughter and my sister, yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
And they were little girlfriends and I was off work
with a broke arm. And I was getting ready to go,
and I looked around there, you are, you just wanted
to go too. I said, you don't wanna go with
these girls? Yeah, I wanna go, you know? I said, well,
go ask your mom, you know? And you went and
asked Pam if you could. That's the first time I
met her and you.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Where did we go?
Speaker 3 (11:27):
We went up to Spillway.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Oh, just went to the lake? Yeah. Just to do what?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Just took them swimming, yeah. Another little girl named Sheena
went with us that day. Three little girls and me
and you. You don't remember that?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
No, I don't, and I told the story, but that
was the first time that we ever met. How long
was that until?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
You married my mom.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Oh, about three or four years before that.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Were we living down with my grandma then?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
You lived with your mom in an apartment, at those apartments.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Oh, we lived in the apartments.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Your grandmother managed them.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Got it.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Then you moved out to Marion Anderson Road.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
So then we moved to Lake Hamilton for a while.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
That's when I was dating your mom.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
And then I moved first with my grandma over there
on 8th, 7th? Where your parents lived?
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah, across the road.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, and then we moved over there with you. Now
it's all coming back. Was that weird to have two
extra kids all of a sudden?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Well, the house wasn't prepared for it.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
It was 900 square feet for all of us.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Yeah, when I was redoing it, I thought about adding
on a lot, but I didn't. I wish I had,
you know, because all of a sudden I got more kids.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Was it weird having two extra kids?
Speaker 3 (12:42):
I handled it. I mean, I had to. Work, work, work,
you know.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I remember being a kid and I would, you still
played a lot of softball.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
A few nights a week even for a while.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Were you a good baseball player in high school?
Speaker 3 (13:01):
We didn't have a high school team, but I played
baseball in Hot Springs. Fair, just like I was a
softball player.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
And then we started playing softball and then for some
reason you let me at, 12 years old, playing the
men's league team.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I remember you playing as maybe 11th grade and doing
real well. Remember we played for the Hot Springs team too.
I mean, St. Joseph's Hospital, that's what we played for.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I remember because we had actual jerseys and I thought
that was cool.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah, St. Joseph's Hospital. That was my last year to play.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, by 11th grade, I kind of felt a little
bit comfortable. When I was a little younger than that,
I probably wasn't as comfortable. I remember being over at,
Was it Ball Dome Park?
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Ball Mountain.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Ball Mountain Park when the OJ Simpson chase happened.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah. We were playing over there and over the concession stand.
They were going, OJ Simpson's running in a white Bronco.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
And we walked over there in.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Between games because we played two games a night and
the OJ chase was on television.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
So we played a lot of softball. Never moved out
of the house. When you moved out of the house,
that was weird.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Why'd you end up moving?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Just moving on to bigger and better things, I guess.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Was it weird to move out of Mountain Pine?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Kind of, but I'm in Mountain Pine every day anyway.
I come back over here. I still have that property
here where I keep my stuff. I'm in Mountain Pine
every day.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Just for that, or do you come to Mountain Pine
because you're going to hunt and fish?
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Hunt and fish and just everything.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
How long ago did you retire?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Full time about four years ago, three years ago.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
So you go to high school in Mountain Pine. What
was your goal when you were graduating high school? What
did you want to do?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Get out of school, get a diploma, and not have
to go to Vietnam.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Really?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yeah. Was that scary to everybody, to have to go
to Vietnam?
Speaker 3 (14:44):
It was getting scary, but, you know, they kind of
quit the draft in 73, so everything was pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
And you guys went 74? Yeah. So you got lucky
by a year. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Did you feel in 72 and even early 73 that
you could get called in?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
You know, it started slowing down, but they were still drafting.
You know, I'm thinking, well, you know, good chance of it.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Would you watch on television? Did you see when they
were drafting, what they put on the TV?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Was that scary to watch?
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Not when I was a little guy, but as you
get older, you start thinking, hey, I'm in the 10th grade.
This could be me.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Would they do a birthday draft? It was a lottery.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
It worked on your birthday, I believe.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
So they'd pull a ball and they would go like,
April 13th. And if your birthday's April 13th, your butt
puck goes, and you're like, oh my God, that's me?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
To be watching television and know that you Just got
your birthday drawn, and now you're probably going to have
to go overseas and fight.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah, and as soon as they did that, then they
would show the death totals, how many KIA they were
and how many.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Why would they do that right next to that?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
That's the way they did it. It was on the
news every night.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
That's a terrible order to do that in.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
That's the way they do it.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
So once you realized you weren't going to Vietnam, then
what did you want to do?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Just get a job at the mill and work with
my buddies. We had fun, you know. All my buddies
worked there. Making good money, too.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
That's kind of what everybody did here in town, too.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Good job, good job for right here. Everybody right here
at home, yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Did you think you'd work there for 30-plus years?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
No, not really. But I got tied in. Insurance, you know,
when you got children, you think about insurance and all
the other benefits you get besides your salary. And my retirement,
which I'm very proud of now, you know, get retirement. So, yeah,
it wasn't a bad deal. I made the right decision,
I guess.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
You still have gold bars?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Gold coins?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Gold coins, yeah. I have gold coins, plenty. I like it.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
That's pretty cool. You've been saving that up for a while, huh?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yeah, close to 10 years now.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
What was I like as a high school kid?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Oh, kind of a little nerdy, but still.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
No, tell the truth. I do want the truth.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
A little nerdy and, you know, just always kind of,
The highlight of the day, you know, just being funny.
And it used to piss me off with the turning
the radio on. I'd go get in the truck, take
you guys to school. You'd have the radio turned on,
turn the truck on, the radio would be blaring, you know.
I'd look over and you'd be smiling like, yeah, I
did that. You know what I mean? That kind of stuff.
(17:16):
That's the kind of kid you were, you know.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
One of my core memories of us being in the truck,
especially like all the Toyotas, it feels like it was
always in a Toyota.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
It was Toyota.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
It was always a Toyota.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Was listening to that Cool 95. And I think there
are two things that I still got from you that
affect me every day because I just know so much
about it.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
One, it's classic rock.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
60s and 70s.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
That's all I listen to then.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
That's all you listen to.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
And for me, I would try to learn the songs
and we'd play how quickly can you name the song.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
You got pretty good at it really quick. I got
pretty good. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
And I still am able to use that in my
job now because now I have a robust knowledge of
60s and 70s classic rock.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Like even like Long Cold Woman comes on.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
I'm like, hollies.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
That's my song.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah. And then even old baseball.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
I mean, I think I could probably recite how 1969
went baseball-wise.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
My heart still kind of got a big chunk knocked
out from 69. Stupid Miracle Mets. Yeah. Stupid Mets.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Took the Cubs. Cubs had a huge league.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Stupid Mets.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Miracle Mets. And did the Mets beat the Orioles in
the World Series?
Speaker 3 (18:21):
They also did beat them back here. 1969 World Series.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I wasn't even alive and I'm sad. But people will
ask me, how are you a Cubs fan?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
And it is only because you were a Cubs fan.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
Right.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
And man, I watched, if it was summertime, I watched
every game. Because they did all day games on WGN.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Most people here are Cardinal fans.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Big rivalry, but yeah, I liked the Cubs.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Did you almost name your daughter after Ryan Sandberg?
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I would have done it, but it wasn't going to happen,
you know.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
But it was a girl.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
If it had been a boy.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
It was going to be Seth Ryan or Ryan Seth,
one of the two.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
After Ryan Sandberg, the second baseman for the Cubs. One
of the cool things for me was the first time
I got to go and throw the first pitch out
at Wrigley Field, I took you with me.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
That was awesome.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
What do you remember about that?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I'm still just paralyzed from it every time I think
about it. It was an awesome day to be out
on the field at Wrigley. Come on, man. Yeah, it
was a good day.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Went to the game, went down on.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Cubs got beat.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Do you remember who pitched?
Speaker 3 (19:18):
No.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
It was John Lester.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, Cubs got beat, but that doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
They got blew out, remember?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
No, because what I remember thinking about was, one, I
was super excited because I was throwing the first pitch out,
but I was mostly excited because you hadn't been yet.
And then when you were getting to go, we got
to go on the field, and I got to throw
the first pitch out.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
That was awesome. Awesome day, man.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Because Wrigley Field just felt like Hollywood, like something you
don't really see.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
It's still a great place, man.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
It's like something you see on TV.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
That maybe you never get to go.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor.
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Speaker 2 (20:07):
So high school was a bit nerdy. I move off
and go to college. Then what?
Speaker 3 (20:14):
You graduated.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
That was awesome. Your mom's so proud, you know. We
went to see you graduate. That was awesome.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
And then life just went on and on and on. Work, work, work,
you know. Warehouse had demanded a lot of hours off
your schedule, from my schedule. I worked a lot.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Were you still driving a forklift?
Speaker 3 (20:34):
I was. To the day it ended, I was doing it.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Do you think you'd still be doing that right now?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
I could probably still be driving around on a Ford truck.
It's not that hard.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
What I remember is you'd be at work all day.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I'd be at school all day or after school, be
practicing football or whatever.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I was doing. And then you'd be on the lake.
And sometimes I'd go out with you. Weekends, yes. Mornings
on the weekends, yes. But God dang, I hated cold
in mornings.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Yeah, that cold water down here.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I just hate the cold weather. Like, you love the woods.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Yes, I do.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
It is your favorite place to be.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
You love hunting.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
I just love being in the woods and outdoors.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
People will see me and they'll know me now. And
I dress like this. I wear a cardigan every day.
Some would say even nerdy now. And they'll go, oh, you.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Ever been hunting?
Speaker 1 (21:27):
And I'm like, you have no idea how I grew up.
And I can list them through it. Like when you
got me a 410, then I went to a 20 gauge.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Then we had a 12 gauge.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
And these were all your guns that you would just
give me as I got better at them. And that
I have, again, if we talk about robust knowledges, I
don't have handgun knowledge at all.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
But I do have, I'm pretty good with a shotgun.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
And I think that surprises people sometimes.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Well, they're totally different works. You know, shooting a shotgun
is more of a timing thing, you know, especially when
you're shooting. Yeah, your Uncle Bud bought you the 14,
I remember that. He had a 14. It hurt.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
We went and shot it.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yeah, yeah. Then you got the 20. Dad's 20 gauge.
My dad's 20 gauge.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
That's probably my favorite gun. Yeah. That 20 gauge.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I still wish I had that one, actually.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
It was kind of a little kicking gun for a
20 gauge.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yeah, it sucked. It hurt. Yeah. Do you have that one?
Speaker 3 (22:18):
I still have it.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
You still have that one?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
How many guns do you think you have now?
Speaker 3 (22:22):
I got about 15. 10 guns in all. I got
two of everything.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Do you use all 15?
Speaker 5 (22:28):
No.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Not at once. I have a rifle and a backup rifle.
And then I have a. 22 and a backup.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
22.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
And I have a shotgun and a couple of backup shotguns.
You got to have a lot of shotguns if you're
a hunter.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Depending on what you're hunting, obviously.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
And then I got some handguns and a lot of handguns.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Would you rather be in the woods or on the lake?
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Well, I'm a seasonal guy and the same thing every year.
You know, Boy, that's a tough question. Springtime rolls around.
You know, you want to go fishing. Well, I can't
wait to catch our crappies biting, mollies biting. But then
you're just busting to go turkey hunting. It's right around
the corner, you know, and that's all it's about, you know.
You can't concentrate on fishing because turkey season's coming in.
(23:16):
That kind of messes up your spring fishing, you know,
going turkey hunting. Because I'm trying to go every day
if I can. Then it gets hot summer, you're back
on the lake, and you're not really worried about hunting then.
You know, okay, it's gone, so. You're really into fishing,
or I am. And then this time of year, I'm
starting to generate up on hunting. As soon as it
(23:37):
cools off in the cool weather, you want to go
hunting then. I don't worry about fishing in the winter.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
What are your five favorite things to hunt, number one?
Speaker 3 (23:46):
I like the waterfowl hunt, probably number one.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
So ducks? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
The fun thing about ducks is that they go fast.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
It's fast. That's fun.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
The bad thing about ducks is, and I think you
could probably tell the story, I fell in.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
And it sucked. You gotta watch what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
And you had waders on, obviously.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Yeah, they fill up with water.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
And they fill up with water.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
It's nasty.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
And you know what I did afterward? What? You know
what I did. Once I fell in the cold water
with my waders on, I did what?
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Well, I don't know. You got a cold, didn't you?
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Went back to the truck.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Took them off and just sat in the truck for
three hours while you guys stayed on the lake and
sat in the heater.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
That sucked. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
That's all you can do. Unless you got other clothes
with you.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
No, I didn't have that. Number two.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Uh. turkeys really yeah they're fun to hunt they're very
elusive and hard.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
It's hard yeah i feel like that's a harder one
to hunt.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
It is because it's like kind of like ducks you're
calling them and enticing them and trying to bring them
in close for a shot and then you know deer
hunting would be number three but deer hunting's just sitting.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
There waiting a lot you know i hate it still hunting.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yeah and guys nowadays we've lost the deer hunting skill
everybody wants to go out and pile up a bag
of corn you know and Not hunting on the ground,
we're hunting stands, you know. I don't know, it's just not,
I like it, but it's not my number one, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Number four.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I like to hunt squirrels.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Still?
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yeah, I still hunt squirrels. I went out the other
morning in the heat and shot a couple, yeah. I
got some old friends that like them, so I shot
a couple.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Five?
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Two.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Do squirrels? No, we did number five on the list.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Oh, number five.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Oh, number five. I guess it would be wing shooting.
I don't do it anymore, but I would love to,
like hunt quail or pheasants or something. Every time I
get an opportunity to do.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
It, I do it. We never had a good bird dog.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
No.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Have you had a good bird dog since then?
Speaker 3 (25:39):
I have had several good bird dogs in my life.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
We went with people that had good bird dogs that
would point and they would not move. That to me
was the craziest thing, to watch a dog point and
hold that point regardless of what was happening.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Do you remember Rambo, the old dog I took in?
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Good bird dog?
Speaker 3 (25:55):
He was pretty good.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
He would hold a point?
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yep. He's old, but I took me and your Uncle
Bub went out with him, and Bub was fascinated by him.
He was just an old guy ready to leave the world, though.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
What about when you were, like, striper guiding, taking people out?
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Yeah, that was some good fishing.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
How long did you do that?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
A couple years.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Was that more for fun, or did you make any
money doing that?
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Didn't make no money. I was just helping. You don't
make money doing that.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
So you just take people out, catch shad. Right. And
then catch striper.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Right. The fish that my mom had mounted, because you
were with her, you guys caught that.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Right.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
What's that story?
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Your mom was just home from surgery, resting up, and
we were up there walking the dog, and they turned
the water on, and you know, that's just like ringing
the dinner bell.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
At the dam, so the cold water starts coming out.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
And she had started, I said, let's go fishing. She said, okay,
so we went back home, got the boat, put the
boat in, and So as we're putting the boat in
right by the ramp, the launching ramp, there's a bunch
of big shad, I net them. And I put her
on the shad and she had her little Zebco, you know,
and 10 pound test line.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
By the way, a couple things for people that don't know.
First of all, shad are these small fish that Keith
was really good at spreading a net, catching them, and
we'd use them as bait to catch the bigger fish.
And the Zebco is that little round reel with the
button push that is like a child's rod and reel, basically.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Kind of, not made for catching. Yeah. But anyway, she
put one of those on. She hooks a big striper, pow,
breaks a line immediately. And I got one. Use my pole.
It's got some, like, 17-pound test line on it. And
I put another shadow on it. She couldn't even throw it.
It was a bait caster. She just didn't get it
four foot from the boat. And I looked out there,
(27:42):
and I saw it swimming on top. I said, I
think one's after it. And I reached down to get
another reel and rod. I heard, kaboom, big splash, you know.
She goes, I got him.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
That thing was singing across the river, you know. I thought, oh,
my God. I said, get that pole up. You know,
it's exciting. I said, get your pole up. Get your
pole up. Well, she, what do I do? Anyway, she
finally got the, I reached and pushed it up to her,
and she had it bent over.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Did she have it, like, stuck in her stomach?
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Dug in?
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Oh, yeah. And she had, you know, she just, I said, sorry,
but she's holding it. It's just ripping. And I thought,
you know, the drag on those, that was an old
red Ambassador 5000. That drag, it goes, kind of hard
to pull it out, but. Anyway, she was fighting it,
and I thought, oh, it's going to hang her over there.
And then it got on the other side, and it
took off up the river.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Was it pulling the boat at all?
Speaker 3 (28:28):
It was, finally. We got out there, pulling upstream. I thought, oh,
my God, he's going upstream. I knew them was going
to get him, you know. And she pretty much reeled
him around and fought him back by, and he come
by the boat in that clear water. She says, get
the net, baby, get the net. And I said, he
ain't going in the net.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
You could tell it was large.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Yeah. And she pulled him around there, and I rushed
down and got him and threw him in the boat.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
How big was it?
Speaker 3 (28:49):
42 pound. Crazy. He gassed one time and he was
over with. He was just falling.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
She got a 42 pound striper.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
You guys, but she got a 42 pound. And we
had that mount on our house forever.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Yeah, he was zipping. Let me tell you, he was
mean for a little bit. She's lucky to get him in.
She's real lucky.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Because?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
If he'd have went downstream, we'd still be trying to
get him, you know, with that current. We couldn't have
done anything.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Why would he go upstream then?
Speaker 3 (29:17):
I don't know. It's crazy. He went over towards those docks,
and I'm thinking it might have been a little eddy
over there or something, and he didn't realize what, he
got in that, trying to go to deeper water, I guess.
I don't really understand that at all. But we got him,
that's the main thing.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Is that the biggest fish that you've been in the boat,
when one's been caught?
Speaker 3 (29:35):
I've caught some 40-pounders myself.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Have you caught one bigger than that one?
Speaker 3 (29:38):
As big, but not bigger. I think she still got
me beat by a little bit. Probably like a pound
or so.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
It's summer, so you're not on the lake very often now.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
No.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
It's getting really hot. Fish ain't doing much.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Top five fish to catch, number one? Walleye. Because it
eats the best.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
It eats the best.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Okay, so it can be either what eats the best
or what's the most fun to catch. But you're going
to go walleye because for sure it eats the best.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Number two.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Crappie.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Also eats the best, yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
And they're fun to catch too.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
And then I'm going to say bass, stripers, and then
anything else that bites, you know.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I could be wrong here, but I always felt like
it was a little more fun to catch the hybrids,
which was striper, white bass mix, obviously. Not because they
were bigger than stripers because they weren't, but because Those suckers,
they fought.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
They do some fight.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
They were like mid, but they fought harder than anything else.
And those were the most fun to catch.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Yeah, and you could release them and they would swim away.
They weren't like stripers, you know. You release a striper
and he struggles, you know. He stresses out. And then
catch him again, you know. I love that. Yeah, I've
caught them before where they break somebody's line and have
a hook and somebody else is hooking them. I got
me another hook now.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
You just took the hook out of that one and
you kept that one?
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Yeah, I kept the hook.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
What did you just buy?
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Oh, a side-by-side, a Honda.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
So one of the big.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
That's the first time you bought one of those?
Speaker 3 (31:01):
It's a two-seater, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Why'd you need that?
Speaker 3 (31:03):
I don't know that I needed it. You sound like
some other people. I mean, I got it to ride
around in. It's a little bit more safer and a
little bit more easier to get around.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Ride around in where? If you just go out in
the woods? Yeah, woods.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
That kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
When did you get it?
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
So a couple days ago.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Just a couple days ago.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
So you're hauling it home on the trailer. What happens?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Well, we haul it in my cousin's trailer, but I
went to get me a trailer. And when I got
my new trailer, the wheel about came off.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Of the new trailer?
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Of the new trailer.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
How did you know the wheel was coming off?
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Well, I've been about to come off. I look back
and I saw a guy pull up by me, started
honking a horn.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
He said, hey, buddy, you got flat.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
I look back and I'm just going crazy. About to
come off.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
So then what do you do?
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Pulled on Chick-fil-A and said, hey man, I need some
lug nuts. This wheel's about to come off. So they
just brought me another trailer.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
And they took the old one?
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yeah, just dropped the road to Atwoods.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Have you taken it out yet?
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I've driven it, but not really.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Just around the house?
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Yeah, I put a high line a couple times.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Because what we would do is if someone would kill
a deer, we would just, I think you had the
same four-wheeler that you had then.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Same four-wheeler you rode, I still have.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah. You'd just bungee it to the back and drag
it out.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Does this make it easier where you don't have to
bungee it to the back?
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Yeah, heck yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
You just throw it in?
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Throw it up in a little bed or there's a,
I got a receptacle you can hook in there too
and lay it on that. Yeah, it's a lot better.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Do you have a barn or like a shed at
your house like we had where you had all the
clips so we could skin the deer there?
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Do you have that now?
Speaker 3 (32:34):
It's not as active there as it is. you know,
that place was active.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Yeah, because other people would use it too.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Yeah, home and out.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
We would just look back, there'd be a truck back
in the shed, and we would just assume it's somebody
back there.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Yeah, your mom one day when it was raining said, well,
we've had 10 deer today. Because people would keep coming
by and just hanging them. Because it was raining outside
and they didn't have a place to stay inside, so
they'd just hang them up in our shed and shed them. Yeah,
that was a deer skinning shed for a long time.
It's an awesome place.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
How many days a week do you get out hunting
or fishing?
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Uh, I'm out every day in the outdoors. Maybe not hunting,
but I'm out with my dog or I go check
my cameras, feeders. I like the outdoors. I'm out every day.
Very few days I don't get out in the outdoors.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Do you like being retired?
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I love it. Wish I did it two years earlier.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Do you have enough money? Are you good?
Speaker 3 (33:25):
For what I live, I'm probably going to die of
live money. All I want to do is have a
little fun now and then.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
The Bobbycast. We'll be right back. This is The Bobbycast.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
What was it like for you whenever my career started
to get kind of weird and big?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Do I know?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
When my career started to get a little big and
weird and meaning it just.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
I thought, wow, where's this going to end?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
I said, he is going to get... But you had
said one time you wanted to be Letterman. I thought,
maybe he will be Letterman.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Because it was here first. It was KLAZ, and it
was just local. It was Hot Springs. And that, to me,
was really cool.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
He's doing what you wanted, though. I'm real proud about that.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
And then it was Little Rock.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
And then I moved to Texas, and then it was
kind of like, all right, I'm out of here. And
then from there, it started to kind of grow nationally.
When I started to do TV, that always felt kind
of fun because that meant everybody could watch, like, all
over the place.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
When I did Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Oh, man.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
What did you think about that?
Speaker 3 (34:27):
I liked it. I still, every time I hear that song, man,
I have to go out there. I start playing it, man,
or I get it up on video playing it.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
The one from The Greatest Showman? No. Which song?
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Oh, come on, help me out here.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
I don't know. I dance to a lot of them.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
The one where you dance to Hammer.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Oh, you can't touch this.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Yeah, you can't touch it. Yeah. Every time I hear
that song, it brings me back to that.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
That had to be weird, though, to watch me dance.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
We was just watching it the other day. Somebody and
I were, and. And it was weird.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Did you think I would win?
Speaker 3 (35:02):
No, not at first. Then I started thinking, maybe he
is going to win, you know?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
At what point did you think I had a chance?
Speaker 3 (35:11):
About the third one from the end, yeah. I thought,
he's going to win this dang thing, you know. Because
you had good fan base, Matthew. He is going to
win it, yeah. I felt pretty good about it.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Did you watch the finale?
Speaker 3 (35:21):
I did.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
When I won?
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Who didn't watch it in Mountain Pine? Who didn't, you know?
Everybody watched it. It was awesome. I liked it when
you jumped up on the desk in front of an
old dude, you know?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Yeah, that was what, yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
He didn't like you.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
He didn't.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
He did when we weren't on camera. We were on camera,
he didn't like me because I didn't know what I
was doing. I didn't have a lot of dance. Who
are your five favorite bands of all time, musically or artists,
number one?
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Chris Clearwater, probably.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Which is why I love CCR so much.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
When I had John Fogerty over at the house, after
it finished, you were the first person I texted, and
I was like, add John Fogerty over at my house.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
I mean. He's always going to be something to me,
you know, because I listen to them guys religiously, you know.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Number two?
Speaker 3 (36:05):
I'm leaning towards ZZ Top now, man. You know, I
really like listening to them anymore. I like, you know,
Sharp Dressed Man is one of my favorite songs, and
She Got Legs, I like those songs. ACDC's always going
to be a favorite of mine, too.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Three ACDC?
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Yeah, I like ACDC. And then I'm going to have
to go back to maybe some older ones. I like
the Guess Who. I really liked it. Listen to Guess Who.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Which is different than The Who.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
And I know that from Muscle Ascendant. Cool, 95.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
And then number five?
Speaker 3 (36:34):
I would say probably some classic stuff, maybe like The Stones.
I kind of like The Stones, too. They've been around
a lot. I painted black all the way in to
start me up to everything. So, yeah, I like The Stones.
I put them in there.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Whenever you come on the radio show, do people go, hey,
I heard you on the radio?
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Yeah, sometimes. Yeah, they do.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Do people call you Arkansas Keith?
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Quite a few people do here and there yeah which is.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Kind of weird because I just needed to call you
something other than Keith because I don't call you Arkansas
Keith yeah I just I've always called you Keith and
so we were talking on the show the other day
like what will the baby our baby and you've met
Billy what will the baby call Keith or call what
do you want her to call.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
You by my name Keith that's what I said yeah
I said the same thing I call him Keith yeah
she can call him Keith yeah yeah What's she going
to call me? I don't know. Keith. That's right.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
That's your name. So what will you do today after this?
What's on the agenda?
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Well, I'm going, since I live here, I'm going to
go to Mount Pine, get on my four-wheeler and go
check my cameras and put some corn out. Getting close
to deer season.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
I thought you just said deer season is weird because
people cheat and use corn and cameras.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I cheat too.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Okay. Okay, good.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
All right.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Fair enough.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
But it comes in before duck season. See, that's how
it all works out for you. Cause they're not all
coming in at the same time. You got deer season,
then duck season. So, you know, you can deer hunt
and duck hunt. And then turkey season's in the spring.
So it works out pretty good for you. I'm a
seasonal guy, let me tell you. Every year as the
season's coming in, I'm getting more excited about that, so.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Got your mountain pine shirt on. I do. You still
go to the games. You text me from the games going,
here's the score.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Mountain pine games. I make them, you know.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
We're struggling because we went from 8-man to 11-man. Absolutely.
And so it's been hard, and rightfully so.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Right.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Because we— Small school. Yeah, small school.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Sad.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Tough.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Mill goes away, and then school choice hurt us a lot.
Because if you're a good athlete, you go to a
bigger school that comes and poaches you.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
And, you know, we— well, yeah, like you said, people leaving,
you know. I don't want to mention no names, but
we got a couple I really, going to Lake Hamilton,
we could really use, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Does that make you sad?
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
It makes me sad sometimes, too.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
It's why I come back, and I do enough here,
just because I feel like I kind of am indebted,
because there were people in my life, mostly you, because
I was, whenever we moved in with you, was I
12 or 13, probably?
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Yeah, sixth grade, I think.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
So that'd be 12? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
So definitely you, but definitely also people like Coach Gandalf
was a big part of my life.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
I got to know him well when I played with
the coaches. I liked to be, I played softball with
the coaches. there with Terry Bleece and them and I
got to know him real well. He's a good guy.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
And like Robert Parker.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Yeah, I see Robert all the time.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Youth director of the church.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Great guy.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
So like there's a big group that helped me. That's
why I come back and do this because people help
me here.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yeah. And if I come back for 30 years, I
want to get one of those watches. That's what it is, right?
If I keep coming back, I get one of those watches?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
We'll get you one of them Timexes with the fake gold.
How about that?
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Well, I got a pretty good one here, though. I
got a pretty good one. And you didn't really know
you were going to do this?
Speaker 3 (39:58):
No.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
No. You feel good about it?
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Yeah. I'm okay with it.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
You don't really care, then?
Speaker 3 (40:03):
I like talking.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
It is what it is.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
I like talking.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
It's fun.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Your health's good?
Speaker 3 (40:07):
I'm kicking right on, man, for a 70-year-old. I'm 70.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
You're 70 now?
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Yeah, don't say that out loud, though. I don't like it.
I had a hard time turning 70. You know, 69,
I'm flying all through the 60s. But 70, I started
thinking about, oh, my God, I'm 70 now. Yeah, I'm
70 years old. I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
I took it pretty hard. Harder than anything. Harder than 30,
harder than pretty tough.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
You're good for 70.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Yeah, I mean, I feel good.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Do you exercise at all?
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Oh, yeah, a little bit every day. Just nothing serious,
but I stretch every morning, and I do a little
bit of lightweight lifting, you know. And I can do
some push-ups, man. I bet I can do 10 right now.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
You know, I'm not going to call you on it.
You want to challenge me? I don't want to challenge you.
The one thing, and we'll end on this, is that
you still text in green because you don't have Apple.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Yeah, I don't know what that means. I text on
my phone.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Your phone is not Apple. It's not an iPhone. Yeah,
so it's green.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
It's Android.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Yeah, it's Android. You committed to it?
Speaker 3 (41:13):
It works for me.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
You don't care? Do you use apps at all?
Speaker 1 (41:16):
No.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Everybody says, you ought to get this certain hunting app.
I don't need it. I know where I'm going.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
So you use your phone for what?
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Texting, making phone calls, and maybe a little research every
now and then on the Cubs or the White Sox.
I kind of get to be a White Sox fan, too.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
You're now a White Sox fan a little bit?
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Okay. Thank you for doing this with me. I really
appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
It's cool.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
All right.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
There he is, the great Arkansas Keith.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Later.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
Later.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
Later.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
Thanks for listening to a Bobbycast production.
Host
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