Bobby is so happy for Carter Faith earning her first ACM nomination! Her album 'Cherry Valley' has been nominated for ACM Album of the Year. It is also the first debut album to be nominated since Chris Stapleton's “Traveller. We wanted to take a look back to when Carter Faith sat down with Bobby to discuss her musical journey. Growing up in a non-musical family in Davidson, North Carolina, she was inspired by music at a young age and taught herself to play guitar and piano. She shares how she went from being a shy kid, to performing at places around her hometown. Carter also tells us why she wanted to quit school and reveals which artists speak to her. She also tells us what it meant to sign her record deal, why she wants to become a big deal and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, everybody, Bobby. Here, I'm going to play something that
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I'm super proud of. And I think when she did
the interview, she was starting to be known and I
was a big fan of her. But she just got
nominated for Album of the Year at the ACMs for
Cherry Valley, and I think a lot of people were surprised,
not because she's not awesome, but because some people were like, huh,
I haven't been introduced to her yet. So this was
an interview that I really loved doing. I took her
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out on the road and she opened some shows, you know,
when I was doing stand up. Just a massive fan,
so I wanted to reintroduce Carter Faith to you and
then check out her music. She's awesome. So here she
is newly nominated for an ACM Award for Album of
the Year. Here is Carter Faith. Carter Faith. Hello, Hello, Bobby.
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What what cities were we together?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
We were in Wichital for two nights. I remember that
because I wrote a song called two Nights in Wichital
when I got back.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yeah, I remember you being really good, and I know
you're really good anyway, and then I know t for
who I didn't I purposefully did not ask tofer who
produces rites accurate for you?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
He produces music.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I don't know. I don't know if you're write with
them at all, but I do. And so I purposefully
did not ask him about you because I know it
would just be raving reviews then you work together. But yes, absolutely,
And so you're awesome. Thank you, And I hope that
my people were really nice to you.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Oh my god, it was so fun. I thought your
show was amazing. I think that's the first time I
ever went to like stand up show in my life.
It was so good and it was honestly, like really touching.
It was awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Thanks. And So what's funny about you is that in
person quite demure. Uh, you know, you are a pretty
soft spoken individual in human life, but guy, dang, when
you sing and like you, it is like attitude central
and how you right and how you sing, there's a
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flip there, Huh Do you feel it?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I definitely do. I think, you know. I I think
I come off as self spoken. I'm really like I'm
an analyzer, like ever since I was little. My Mom's like,
you're a thinker. I'm always I'm taking everything in, you know,
So I feel like one of my superpowers is I
just stay back in the room and see how people are.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Kind of so, maybe it's not even self spoken. Maybe
it's just you're just kind of waiting. Yeah, you're observing
until you decide if you even want to be spoken
at all.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah. I it probably sounds weird for me to say
this because this is my job. But I don't feel
comfortable with like attention unless I want it.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I'm the same way.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, it's a weird thing to explain because obviously we
want attention. This is what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I'm wildly introverted. I am too until it's time to work,
and then I am overtly Yeah, extroverted.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
It's like that one tiny part of yourself that can
be like that, and you go all the way to
that part of you.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Quiet kid or a loud kid. What were you like
as a kid?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
So quiet?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Oh? Really? See I was not? Yeah, but so okay.
Then I have a million questions. If you're a kid,
how you got here? Where'd you grow up?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I grew up in a little town david'son North Carolina,
where Steph Curry. He's our claim to fame because he
played at He played basketball at Davidson College, and that's
like the only celebrity we have.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Do you remember him playing there?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yes, because they made it to the elite age.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yea.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
They had a run and like the news came and
we all got I went to Davidson Elementary, which was
like a block away from Davidson College, and we all
got to leave school one day and go like be
on the news. It was so fun. It was like
small town fame thing that never happens.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
So you're from what's the name of your town again?
It is david it is and you went to Davidson
Elementary and that college is in the town.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, that college is in the town, so there must be.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
You have ten thousand people that live there at least, right, Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
It's a lot of it's townies versus school kids. I
think it's a weird place because it's all the school kids.
It's a really smart school. It's a very liberal town
in the middle of a very conservative state. So it's
just all those things.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Why did you stay home and go to school? Are
you go to college?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I did? I went to Belmont.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Oh, so you came here for college?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I did?
Speaker 1 (04:23):
So you did all the high school there It's just
confusing to me when there's a college and high school
and elementary all the same name, because we have that
here too with Lipscomb. Lipscomb has elementary and Lipscomb University
and that confuses me.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
It confuses me too because I guess they're connected, but
how are they connected?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Went to all Lipscomb basketball game. Don't have to be
fourth grader, let's even college. So I was like, let's go.
So it's confusing. I see you grew up in Davidson.
Parents together.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
My parents are together right still?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yes, older brother, sister.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Have an older sister and a younger brother.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
How much older is your sister?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
My sister is four years older than me about.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
So when you're because my mom got pregnant at fifteen,
she had me. Yeah, so when you say young parents,
like I feel that on a deep level. So I
understand how what it was like having really young parents,
but not really knowing because that was all I knew.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, because I think it was kind of the norm
more than it is now.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
And we're from small towns, which it was very but
also for in my situation, not normal for a fifteen
year old to get pregnant, regardless unless it's like the twenties.
But I know what it's like to have the young
parents and whenever adults, I mean since whenever kids are
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required to do adult things, sometimes they still make kid
decisions because they're still so young. Meaning I remember my
mom being twenty five, you're talking about twenty that's crazy,
You're talking about twenty right, right, twenty four right, like
my mom being a year older than you, and I'm
in fifth grade. Great when I graduated, so and then
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I look back and she just seems like such an
adult to me. But I look at me now, going
how in the world with somebody twenty one, twenty two
with a kid grown kid like they're expected to make
adult decisions.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yes, and put themselves aside. Really every single second of
every day.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
That is young young young young parents. That is that
is a tough job for sure, which I'm going to
being a very old parent. We don't have kids yet.
We will have kids at some point, But I was
always so terrified to have kids because I didn't want
to be in that same situation where it's like I
don't want to like not have resources and be so young.
You're fine anyway, Yeah, that's that aside from that dude.
But I'm gonna tell your card, I have some really
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dumb friends that have kids and do just fine. Yes.
So like it's like I have friends that are idiots
that are pilots. Yeah, and it scares me, but I'm like,
you know what I feel. Okay, if they're idiots and
pilots have never crashed, then I feel pretty good with
most pilots.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yes, I feel. I've seen like people give their babies
a bottle Mountain Do to drink if they're thirsty.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Like that's where that's pretty funny. That's also like where
I come from in Arkansas basically was milk.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Like, we're all gonna be fine.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
What was what was your hometown? Like, like the school
was it at three A, four A? How big was
it your elementary high school?
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Wee? So elementary school was pretty small. Like I think
my whole entire school life until I went to college
was like one hundred kids per grade. I knew everybody.
I mean, that's not super small, but.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
That's still pretty small enough. Oh. My point with your
sister was how old was your mom when she had
your sister?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
My mom, I remember my dad was because I remember
there's photos of my sister at his college graduation. Really yeah,
so it was like that age.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah, that's crazy to think about.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And I mean it's awesome now we're all like best friends.
Like my parents are my best friends. They're everything to me.
But yeah, I just think about all the things they
did for us.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
They had to give up.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
They gave up everything. I realized the other day I
was talking to someone. I was my dad super straight
laced and works every day, will work every day till
he can't. But he played baseball growing up, and that's
what he went to college for. That's how he got
out of his small town, was a scholarship for baseball.
And I was like, oh my god. He was a dreamer.
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That's a dream and they gave that up just to
be parents and take care of their kids.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
It's funny you can appreciate the dreamer part of it
because you're also a dreamer.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Right, at anytime that you want to do something that
people around you haven't done, that's bigger than not only
yourself but anyone around you. That's that's chasing a dream
for sure. And yeah, and now here you are doing it.
How do they feel about you moving to Nashville?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
They're so supportive. They. I was just thinking, I mean,
I was coming here today, so I was thinking about
myself and.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I think about that every time I come here to.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Myself me again. And I was just thinking how they
every single time I got on a stage growing up,
I literally to be pushed onto stage. So they saw
something in me way before probably they could even and
put that into words, and so they pushed me to
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come here.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
They what do you think they saw on you so early?
Then if you were I won't say reluctant, because if
you just didn't want to do it, you wouldn't have
done it, and they wouldn't have made made you do it.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
They saw that I was. It was fear, you know,
because again I was super quiet. My mom always called
me cautious growing up, like my little brother. If we
spent a lot of time at the beach because I'm
from near the beach, and he would be in the
water and I would scream my head off. I was like,
someone go take care of him, Like that's my personality.
So I was so scared to be on any stage
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have people looking at me.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Why did they think initially or why did you think
initially you'd want to be on stage because it had
to start. Yeah, some spark had to create interest.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I think something my parents tell me is I would
just sing at the top of my lungs in the
backseat of the car when you drive around to the radio,
because you it's your parents, Like that doesn't feel like
an audience when you're super little. And I think they
could just tell I I could carry a tune and
I would set up little concerts for my stuffed animals
in my room. I remember I leave the pieces by
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the records like till that song was in the ground,
you know. I just think they had a feeling that
there was something in me. I was obsessed with reading
and like reading out loud and words like when I
was couldn't even read. That's how I learned to read,
was like reading to myself. I don't know, it's really
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weird because we'll talk about it now and they're like,
I don't know, you just had that bone in your
body that you were gonna leave this place.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Was anybody musical in your family?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
My dad's mom was musical. She was a cruise ship singer. Wow,
And we don't really talk. I mean, it was never
something I knew though until like trying to know who's
musical in my family, and then my little brother is musical.
He loves piano and writing little songs. And as I'm older,
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I see how many more people in my family are creative,
like my aunt loves to paint. My two of my
cousins love to sing, but none they've never took in
the leap to go do that, So that seems different
to me.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
In high school, were you the musical kid?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I was the secret musical kid. I didn't want anyone
to know my Like it was very weird to me
because my real name is Carter Faith Jones, but in
high school I went by Carter Jones obviously, So I
made a YouTube channel that was Carter Faith and it
really bothered me when people found that out and would
like call me Carter Faith at school and I don't know,
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just people knowing that I could do that or that
I cared about it was really embarrassing for me.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Why you wanted to make the channel yet you didn't
want people to know you made the channel. But was
it only people that you knew?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yes, people that I knew.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
That's my because because that was that's vulnerable, Yes, very
vulnerable if people you know then can judge you, and
you're that. That's so I understand that. Do you feel
like your early your answer is gonna be no, for sure?
Do you feel like your early YouTube work was quality?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
No? Not quality? But I look back and I'm like,
I can sing and I like, I don't even look up,
like I'm like, you know, clutching my guitar for dear
life as usual. But I don't know, there's something there.
And I think back and I always would dream of this,
like this was what I wanted, even if I didn't
even admit it to myself really for a while.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Whenever you decided to come to Nashville to go to college,
was it I'm gonna I want to go to Nashville,
but the safe way to go to Nashville is to
go to college.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. And my family is very passionate
about education. So my dad is like, I will pay
your rent if you get a degree. You cannot drop out.
I tried to drop out one million in eighteen times
and I didn't, and they're very they love that. They
love that got my degree. But yeah, that was how
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it was coming here, for sure?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Was it safer to you if you came for college
because you were going to go to school sounds like regardless,
and if you thought I want to be a singer,
that's like a half commit to Nashville. It's a full
commit to go to college here, but it's like a
half commit to the music industry. Yeah, was there a
little safety in.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I was like, I'll be a songwriter, got it, that's safer.
I'll write the four songs that I need to go
and get into this program. And that's what I did.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
What do you mean, so you come and get into
this songwriting program here?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
I got into the songwriting program. There's a teacher there,
Drew Ramsey, who was like really important to me because
he would tell everyone in class he's like, guys, there's
quiet killers in here, like we're talking about He's like,
go rite with Carter. She's quiet. That doesn't mean she's
not a good songwriter, which that like, I don't know.
I think so many times like that in Nashville really
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got me out of my comfort zone, like an a
jolt that I needed.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Having to co write with folks you didn't know. Yeah,
that's literally it's like it's like a first date. Though, yes,
I mean that's what it is. And I would say
with no chance walking up, but that's also not true.
It's not true, but yeah, it's it's it's bizarre because
here you are and let's say they match you and
I up. But like Bobby, you and car are gonna
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go right, and it's like, okay, Well, not only is
it people think, okay, we just sit together and write
a song. But know how you get to the point
of writing a song a concept? Why do you feel
this about the concept? What is the personal You're literally
sharing this semi to intimate details with somebody that you
don't know, And yeah, that's awkward. And I can understand
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how it would be awkward for you to come to
town and be like, oh boy, here we go.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Well, what I would do is I would prepare like
basically a whole entire song and like spit it out
in pieces to act like I was writing it in
the room.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
That's like people that freestyle but they already have it
all prepared in their heads.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
That would be me.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
They're like, let me lay this down, let me go
off the dome, and then they just nail it. But
you know they had the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
No, I'm such a liar.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
That's funny.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, I'm such a liar.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Hang Ty, the Bobby Cast will be right back. Wow,
and we're back on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Did you write it home at all?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Like growing up?
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, like because there weren't probably weren't a lot of
songwriters around you.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
No songwriters. I got to the point where I would
play long cover gigs at the bar in my hometown.
It's called Old Town public House, and no one was
in there. It's just my family and the bar goers.
And I would play like four hour cover gigs. They
pay me like one hundred dollars maybe, and I would
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start I would just get sick of them. I would
play songs twice, like at the beginning and the end.
So I was like, I should write some songs. I
always wrote poetry growing up, Like I always had a
journal caring around with me. I loved reading. I just
love words, So I would write poetry a lot. And
then one day I just wanted to put a song
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that I wrote in my set and not tell anyone,
like put it in the middle, sneak it in. And
so that's what I kind of started doing, just to
see how people reacted.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
And stuff did you learn to play piano.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, I did. When I did the normal piano lesson
thing as a kid, I hated every second of it.
I'm not good with like authority and practicing. So they
were like, Okay, we're not going to force you to
do this because you're wasting our money.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Basically, did you then do it more because they weren't
making you do it?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yes? Yeah, Like that's a mess up thing that I'm
sure I'll work on at some point, but it's not
me here.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, I think acknowledging that it exists more than working
on it because it's what's gotten here and it's kind
of your superpower now, and it's also given you what
your voice is. You have a pretty rebellious voice. What's
crazy about you and your music and what you do
when you like? I like you as a person, and
again we've spent some time together outside of this. I
like you, and you're easy to like and you're super nice.
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But again, you're like a freaking firecracker when it's showtime.
Like I would be scared of you if I just
saw you perform. I'll be like, there's no.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Way, that's hilarious. I feel like someone on my team
recently told me. They were like, I like, I'm intimidated
by you. That is hilarious to me.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
That's truth because you have you're dominating on stage.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, And so I would be like, oh no, no,
she's way cooler than I am. I'm not gonna even
go up and say if it were the case, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Well yeah, I mean I think back to like, my
music for me is a place I can go that
I can't go any other time, and I don't feel
comfortable going there all the time, and so I put
it in my music and it's just like, I mean, escapism.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I guess you come to town, you're in school, you're
writing songs. Did you feel like you liked right songs?
Or was that to you something It was fine, but
it was a conduit to get to the performance, Like
where did that all kind of fall in your head?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I love writing songs. That's my I will die writing
a song probably. I just feel like that's what I'm
here to do. That's what like, that's how I communicate
with myself and with anything else. The performance thing again,
like that is the hardest part of this business for me,
but one of my favorite parts because there's nothing and
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I'm sure you feel this way too. There's nothing like
seeing someone in the audience who you know is connecting
with you and you know is having a great night
and you're just there with them as humans. That's like
so special to me. So I didn't know how I
would feel about performing, but I'm learning to love it
and to get used to that. It's just an uncomfortable
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feeling for me.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
How about the vulnerability in music when you write the
song and has that been a growth process for you?
Were you just kind of weighe in? Yeah, more and
more and more.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I that's another thing, like I don't I can't lie
in my music. I lie a lot in real life.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Like that's what I say too, Like I'm full of
crap until I lie a lot.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I'm a good liar. I love telling people I'm a
bad liar. But in my music, I'm so honest, I think,
and just really emotional and vulnerable because that's the type
of music I love. And that's what I started writing for,
was that feeling that I needed to get out. So
it's almost like, because it's music, it's like a veil
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I can hide pine.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Just how that's the obviously that's the microphone. For me,
it feels fake. Yes, it's not, and it's I can
have and I mean you said how I feel in
that I can have conversations like this conversation now we're having.
If we took the microphones away, I don't think I
would be able to have this intimate conversation and be
this vulnerable. If we're just sitting here talking, I would
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not be able to do that. I get that this
microphone is here. It's not real.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I totally get that even.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Though it's real, Yes, it's not real. I would never
be like, Carl, what's up. It's good to see you.
Let's talk about fat, sad, happy family, even if we
I Nope, no, I this is the Superman Kate.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yes, like events here are my hell, absolute hell. I
will be in the corner the entire time, sucking down
a drink, not talking to anyone.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Do you ever think people feel And I ask this
because I get this about me. People feel because you're
like that that maybe you're rude, yes, and they're like, oh,
she thinks she's too good, when in reality it's like
I don't want to bother anybody.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yes, I'm like, like I went on, this is such
a stupid story. But I went out on the road
with my friend Ella Langley. I got to open two
shows for like two weeks ago, and she let me
ride her bus. That is so nice. A lot of
people do not do that. I'm like, I'm exhausted getting
home from this because my whole, like self dialogue was
am I in the way? Am I in the way?
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When they asked me to come? That's how I feel,
That's literally how my brain works.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Did when when you did Kansas with us? Did I
offer free to fly back with us?
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I think you had too many people would not enough
seats because I think I did.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I'm sure you did, and I'm sure I was.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Like, what I wondered, That's what I wonder when I
said that was if you ended up saying because I
we flew back, and I know, I was like, hey,
save if Carter wants to fly back with us. But
then you had a player and maybe so I was like,
but even but even then, it's like, but I feel
the same way. Yeah, unless I'm really close to them
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or I'm like supposed to be on I totally get it,
because otherwise I feel like I'm just in the way,
why would anybody want to hang out with me?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yes? Why do we hate ourselves like this?
Speaker 1 (21:49):
It's such an insecurity though, that creates what we're able
to do at the same time. So when I started
going to therapy, and when I started really getting to therapy,
I was like, I don't want to get too therapy
because I don't want to lose my superviowse And he
was like, don't be an idiot. Don't be an idiot.
He's like, he's like, you're so broken, don't write about it.
You're still gonna be.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I'm not gonna be able to fix you.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
You graduated school here I did. Yeah, why'd you want
to quit so many times? Like? What was the was
it to do music? Was it? You just tied to school?
Speaker 2 (22:15):
I think Also when I got to town, I was
like there was a quiet confidence in me where I
was like, oh, I'm good at this. I have to
send me So I started writing. That's another thing about
my family. My dad is like, you're going to write
every day you're there. You're going to ask anyone who
write with you to write with you. You're gonna play
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every show Like that's just how their brains worked. Business
and so that's what I did. And eventually, like I guess,
like probably two years into being here, people like Liz
Rose were demming me back and writing with me and
like shit like that. And so by the time I
was done with school, I had a publishing deal offer.
I was like, get me out of here. I'm ready
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to like move on.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
When did you start to gain confidence in yourself in Nashville?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Was it in comparison with others? And not that you
were comparing yourself, but you would actually see other people
do their thing and go, oh, I don't feel so small,
like I can do this? Or did you have did
you have it before you got here?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I think what was really momentous, what's the word monumental
for me was there were there would be publishers that
would come into our songwriting class and listen to all
our songs. And I remember feeling like kind of outcast
because I didn't write with a lot of the other
Belmont people. I didn't like make friends in college again
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back to you know, knew everyone my whole life. So
when I came to college, I was like, Okay, it's
I'm scared. And so I would write by myself or
write with people in town, and I think it was
really special for me because people like actual Nashville publishers
would come into our class and they would always notice me.
And that was when I would get noticed by people
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actually in town, and I was like, Okay, maybe I
don't have what Belmont has right now, and I thought
that was a negative, but maybe I have what Nashville
wants and I can go right in town and I'm
doing something right, like I'm writing the way that actual
writers write instead of still learning, like I'm just diving
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into the deep end. Because I didn't write since I
was like an eight year old write in songs like
wanting to do this. I feel like I just went
in super naive and that was really helpful for me.
And so those publishers would let me write with their
signed writers, and people just kind of lifted me up
while I was still in school. And I think that
gave me confidence. People giving me confidence, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Yeah, but this time doesn't give anything.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
So I would say any confidence they gave you was earned,
because this is a very value based down They must
have seen value in you in some way that you
could help them in some way. There are a couple
of good ones. But this is a this is a business.
Sounds a business.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
No, I've I've learned that, so I don't watch it.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Because you're good. It's definitely wasn't anyone doing you any charity,
but it's people recognizing.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah. And that recognition, though, was really great for me,
just because my parents love what I write. My friends
love what I write. But who cares about that? You know?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah? Most parents and friends love what their friends. Right?
What about singing? Were you? Were you doing vocal anything
in school? I was like singing class? I don't know. No,
do they have those? They have vocal classes, right, but
but are they like opera or do they have like country?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
You can major in voice at Belmont, but you have
to take opera class.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Or can you do a voice? Can you do like
country music voice? I don't think so, don't either.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I mean, I don't know what they would teach. I
guess what are they teach in songwriting?
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Though they teach a lot, but what do they teach
in songwriting?
Speaker 2 (25:55):
We did a lot of like analyzing songs, which I
think is smarter than like being like this is your
rhyme scheme, because that's just you know, you need to
know those rules to break them.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Rhymes rhymes dot com, rhymeson dot com, there's you go.
You're looking for a.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Rhyme if you need to be tall, how to rhyme
something there?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Seriously? So you evaluate songs or not evaluate, but you
listen to songs and then try to understand what made them.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
What made it good. Like I remember we listened to
Space Cowboy by Casey and we're just all like, this
is just simple, simple, beautiful, Like there's a complex part here,
this melody here, like that's what we do, which I
think is helpful.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
That's super cool. Yeah, what artists do you hear? Maybe
not even artists the word I think artists were not singers.
What artists do you hear? They kind of speak for you.
And I asked that because I was had favorite artists
and singers and stuff. But when I was in my
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twenties or so, like John Mayer would say stuff and
I would be like, oh, I think that, Oh this
is somebody who's like songwriting my thoughts. I never had
that happen before.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
And there are comedians that we'll say things and I'm like, oh,
I thought that I just didn't say that in that
way nearest funny and nearest compelling as they did. But
like there's who what artists did that for you?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I think like early Miranda Lambert that was my badass side,
you know, and then Casey Musgraves. I remember hearing Mary
go around in a Walmart parking lot and I made
us stay in the car till we listened to the
whole thing for the first time. Just people like that,
they're just talking about small town normal life because that
is what most of America is. And that's definitely the
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life I lived, was just normal life with these like
very intense feelings that all creatives have, that all people have, probably,
so it's definitely a lot of Casey Miranda pistolanies.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Always have you met Maranda?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
I have not met Miranda.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Very guys are very similar just in Yeah, I'm lucky
enough to know Miranda relatively well at this point. Seems
real and very soft spoken and quiet. Yeah, and unless
she's like doing her thing, that's not her thing, Yeah,
it's it's it's pretty wild because again, she is such
a freaking fire crack.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah she is. She's I want her to like stand
up for me. You know in a bar, I want
her to be on my mind.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
And she would and she'd cut somebody too. But other
than that, she's just quiet Miranda who's really not going
to get in anybody's way and be a wallflower. But
as well, a lot of similarities there.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, I just like to observe and you can tell
that in her music, I think too, which is why
it's not just that badass side. It has that like
real person side too.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Congrets on signing a deal?
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
When did you get that news? Was it a long
work in progress where you kept hoping developing with that?
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I think my long work in progress has been like
finding people on my team that I trust. So I've
gone through some managers, I've gone through some people on
my side, and so that was kind of a long
time coming. I learning how to trust people in this
business is really hard, cause what how can I trust
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any of you?
Speaker 1 (29:09):
A very transactional place, and everybody's your best friend until
it's not easy to be.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Your best friend, which that's business.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
And it is business, But you're right, it feels very
it's very personal. It feels way more personal than it
actually is, especially at first because I felt I fell
into those trappings. At first too, I was like, oh,
this person, this is my best friend. Yes, And then
it turns out.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Then you go to all the other labels and they
all have their same fiel. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm learning
how to clock people quicker, which is helpful. But I
think my experience with Universal Nashville all has to do
with Hannah Wilson and Cyndy Maybe there. Hannah Wilson, I've
known her since I was still at school, and she
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just loved what I did and would come to my
shows and come to my c Fest Deata heat show,
you know that no one was there. And then when
I met Indie, maybe she just she just liked what
I did. Like She's like, I don't need you cutting
outside songs. I like your voice. I need your voice.
I think it's important. And when you're a songwriter that
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just speaks volumes. And then there's a woman there, Chelsea
Blythe who I love so much too. She's from LA
and she has just a whole different view on country music,
which I think we're seeing is very important.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
When you sign a deal one what does that mean now?
But were you nine six three months working toward this
specific deal with these specific people. Were you wondering, I
wonder if they're gonna sign me or was it like
a random call, Hey Carder, you want to do Yeah?
I'm all I mean like, what is that? What is
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that process? What's the build? It's different for everybody, Like.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Mine was like I met with a lot of labels
and they all act interested, you know, and then you
like keep and then you're like, dude, am I interested
in them? It is like I felt like I was
a bachelorette, you know, which is so weird. And because
I'm not this TikTok viral girl, like I don't have
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these like crazy, They're not going to give me like
five million dollars, you know. So I'm like they have
to care about my music and I have to feel that.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Well, they need a long term invest in you.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yes, I'm trying to do this my whole life. This
is my career. So I think I met with a
lot of LA labels. I met with a lot of
Nashville labels, and I basically at one point just told Universal,
which is this is probably bad business on my half.
But I was like, I'm only going to sign with
you guys, so it's now and never like, let's go
and it was done in like a month.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Were other labels making you different offers or was there that? Wow?
But that's pretty cool. It does mean all the officers
are goodfair or yes, but that's cool.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
No, that is really freaking cool. I don't know. I'm
just I'm just a girl, and you guys want to
give me money to make music.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
That's pretty cool for you. Hesitant to sign at all?
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Yeah, just because I again, I don't like authority. This
is very personal to me, all the things. I just
it's scary to put your like my heart and soul
in someone else's hands. That's what it truly feels like.
But I also that's what I needed to level up.
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I thought about it a ton, and that's what I
decided I needed to get to that next level. So
I keep going.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Did you do the thing where you took the picture
with the papers in front of you?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:37):
I did.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I was like, I was like, I expect you all.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
There, Yeah, everybody's around you, and then you give up
the picture. How long ago to take the picture?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
That was in March? I think?
Speaker 1 (32:47):
And then do you get to post it right away
or it's like we gotta hold onto what you officially
announce it.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I think I posted it right away.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
I also don't really ask permission for a lot of things,
so I'm just like, sorry, it's announced.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
I felt that.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
And so when you sign with the label, do they
say when if you sign, we'd love to have you.
Here is our version of a long the long term
strategy we would do with you. Yeah, because like an agency,
I I switched agents recently a year and a half ago,
and I was I liked my agency CAA, but my
personal agent had gotten so big in the political world
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representing people that I felt a bit lost because her
specialty wasn't television, which is what I was doing. And
so she was like, I'm so I said, hey, I'm
gonna talk to other agencies. There's really open and honest,
and all of them were like, come to us wm ME.
It was all right, They're all like but they a
had a different version of what their offerings were. And
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I ended up signing with UTA that's my agent now.
But I liked their long term and they said, okay,
look we're signing now. But in three months, six months,
twelve months, this is what some of them were Just like,
if you signed with us, We're gonna be rocking immediately.
And I'm like, that's kind of are like I see you. Yeah, yeah,
it's like that sounds really good, but that's kind of
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bull crap where it's a label situation similar and what
about where you signed to work? Like what was the plan?
What do they tell you?
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Oh my god. My favorite thing for people to say
is like, I mean, are we doing this or not?
And I'm like, we're not so sorry. I think the
plan with them is like I'm trying to be a
big fucking deal, you know, and I am going to
work for that and this is what I love and
I'm gonna want to do that.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Are are you going? I need to I need to
single out tomorrow whenever this happens, or are you going?
I need you guys to let me find that that
I think is that single we need tomorrow whenever that
day comes.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
I came in with an album that I wanted to record,
and so I was like, this is my album that
I want to record. I'm still writing, I write three
times a week, but I need to know that you
guys are gonna let me put out an album next year.
And because I need to put out music. I think
that's the game now being frequents. I need your guys's
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help getting me on tours or just helping me get
out in front of real people stuff like that. And
I also, I feel like what I really loved about
Universal is that they just appreciate my point of view.
Like they're not gonna tell me I can't say a
certain word or say something a certain way, and I'm
very clear about that in meetings. So I think just
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I just love that they respect me and I respect them.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Feels like that what I appreciate about you is not
what your point of view is. Is that you have
one right, yeah, Like I don't need to agree with
anyone's ideas or point of view or for art. Yeah,
but I do really love when people have one, yeah,
and one that is ninety three percent formed already. I'm
(35:50):
always about ninety three percent. You're always changing, yeah, a
little bit right. And so do you feel like that's
what they liked about you? I think so is that
not so much exactly what you say and they agree
with everything about what the deep but they were like, oh,
we just like this. She freaking has an idea of
what she wants and who she is I think so.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
I mean, I'm like, I'm gonna have weekly meetings like
this is what I expect.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
That's freaking awesome.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
But my parents are business people, so they're like you
know that. I think that's why I've been successful in
a way, is because I've had both those points of view.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
All Right, it's a little different. Yeah, song is a
little different for it. I mean, to me, it sounds
a little different.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
It's very different.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
What's up?
Speaker 2 (36:29):
So honestly, me and Tofer we made like I was
talking about the album I brought to Universal that I
want to record. We had made album before that, and
again like management switched up. I was like, I don't
feel comfortable releasedince as the album doesn't feel like me anymore.
But there was a lot of songs we recorded that
I really loved, and Alright was one of those. And
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I just felt like, it's not like I'm on country
radio and I need to be any sort of thing
right now, Like I just love this song and I
want to put it out, and we say it feels
like the Willy Wonka soundtrack with like Ana del Rey vibes,
and I love both those things. I love. I just
love a lot of other influences artistically than country, Like
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I am country, but I like playing into all those
other influences as well.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
And the irony is that's most people. And the same
irony is businesses, corporations, executives don't really feel safe doing that,
which was my struggle when I moved to town. Was here,
I come. I don't wear a cowboy hair, I don't
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have a belt buckle, and it's like I played hip
hop on my show, but again, I'm from Mountain Pine, Arkansas.
Like the yeah, the trailer party like, and there's different
kinds of country. There's cowboy country, there's redneck hilberty country,
which is what I was right, white trash country. Yes,
And so you know, I come to town, but I
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have background in hip hop and pop and alternative. But
I'm as country as you could possibly be. But this
town was not warm to it for a long time
because it was just so it was different. But the
thing was it wasn't different. And Mike like this this
is I was like just what everybody is. Yes, but
it feels like that your story has so much parallel
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with that. Is that that's what your your sensibilities are
the normal person. Yes, your country, but you also love
Landad del Ray or insert other artists. It's not country
and you can still be country and have all that.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
And I've seen so many female country artists talk about
being put in a box, and I just don't want
to start off on that foot. I feel like I
can not be put in a box if I don't
start in the box. So that's something I'm like super
passionate about doing.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
What words to People will not want you to put
in songs? What words if you put in songs? Do
you have songs?
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (38:59):
But is that my feel like that's even that bad anymore? No,
I don't think that. I feel like I don't neither
because I feel like that it's just the vernacular. And
also it's like just Sabrina Carpenter or let's go there
judging you as an example, because that's a very very
current example, like and please, please please, I mean the
F word, even Taylor. Yeah, I mean they're throwing it's
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it's not a thing. It's just a bunch of forty
five to sixty year olds that wasn't a thing like that.
They're like, well, we can't do this because it was
never done that way before. But it's just not the
same anymore.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
No, And I think girl like not girls like. People
my age see that, and that's how we talk.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
So I agree that I just need people who are like, Okay,
that is real, That is real.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
What's the lyric you have with the f wort in it?
Speaker 2 (39:47):
He only fucks with the strong.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Stuff like drinks or women or.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Yeah, both the songs about both?
Speaker 1 (39:54):
What song is that strong stuff? Is that the only
song you have the effort in it?
Speaker 2 (39:58):
I say, fuck in Carolina burns too?
Speaker 1 (40:01):
What's the what's the context of that?
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Nothing sticks around like a fucked up crown?
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Do you we're either one of those songs ever going
to be and you're like whatever they call a single? Now,
did you make an other like another, like a that's.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Another thing version. I didn't really realize that, like to
have a clean version you have to have a whole
nother master.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
I didn't know that you can't just mute it.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Or like movement.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
So I was like, no, I'm not going to give
you a clean version because I can't pay for another master.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yeah, isn't that crazy this time?
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Did you know that? I thought you or just like
mute it. Yeah, just mute it. And that's like point two,
like version two of the same. I know you're write
three times a week now? Still more?
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Yeah, three usually is the good number.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
What are you writing about most right now? Like just conceptually?
What what?
Speaker 2 (40:55):
What's I I'm like finishing writing for this album that
I'm about to start.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Like what emotion are you feeling most? Like most of
your songs are, even if you don't write them. Oh yeah,
most of your things are happiness, sadness, anger, jealousy, Like
where are you right now?
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Well, so I date another artist, so it's a lot
of like I love you, but we're probably not gonna
end up together, you know that? Like honest feeling.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
I'm not gonna ask who if it's not known, is
it known?
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Yeah? His name and we have a song together, Okay
then okay, Yeah, his name's Tyler Halverson. He's a Texas
country artist.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Let me see this guy looks like, yeah, yeah, that
meet him. That's not him. I'm a different day.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
I'm a different guy.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
No as a guy who worked No, no, no, Tyler Halverson. Yes,
oh yeah, he's definitely got a vibe about him.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
He's on the road every weekend because he does the
whole Texas rigamarole.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
So I'm like writing a lot about missing him and
if he's talking to hoes and shit like that.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
I like, I don't know thing about him, but we
don't I like about him. Yeah, he looks legitimate as
the artist that he is. He also like has a
little softness, like a little nerd like kind of like
a little as it is. Yeah, there's something about him
that's not just like I'm an angry cowboy and I
don't know, there's.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
A lot of country music right now. It feels like
you're just being yelled at.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Does he work prescription glasses? Yes?
Speaker 2 (42:21):
He does.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
I like that too. I think that's why I like
it's really bad and kind of tell something's up there.
And how long you guys been together? Like a year
and a half going pretty good?
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Yeah, he's the best. I mean, he lived here, he
lives here. Yeah, it's just nice to talk to someone
about things that they get and it's not like someone
you're competitive with.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
The Bobby Cast will be right back. M hm, this
is the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Have you had day to day change since you've signed
a deal? Is I feel the same right now, but
you're expecting, like when you're done it to be different.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Yeah, it better be different, right, I'm like, here, better help.
My day to day is just different because I have
to ask more people if I should do something or
ask for forgiveness if I did something wrong. So like more,
I have to answer to more people. But I guess
they're kind of answering to me. That's the mindset I'm taking.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
You have management, I do. Yeah, I'm with range and
so did you have the whole My struggle was for
a long time, I felt like I was working for them,
I know. And then I was like, oh, I hope.
I It took me a long time to realize. Then
I got to be like, I have to make it
like they're working for me now I'm in a really
good spot where we work together. Yes, but they're not
my boss. But I felt like for a long time,
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like I was like, I don't want to get in
trouble with my management. No, I know, did you have that?
Speaker 2 (43:53):
I'm a little girl.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
You're not fooling me without one. But yeah, because that's
a weird thing, especially if the older than you.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Oh yeah, I mean I think what again? What helped
me is too bad experiences with other managers. I had
to learn how to fire someone.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Okay, so you did. So you did have the struggles
early on this Oh.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
Yeah, pretty rough and I had to be a big
girl and make a decision and get out of that
situation or you know, all the things. So I went
into deciding who my manager would be very headstrong, and
I was just like, I'm Carter Jones. This project is
Carter Faith. I want Carter Faith to be all of ours.
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But like I'm the president.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
How long did it take you to be that?
Speaker 2 (44:41):
I started out with them like that because.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
With your current Yeah, so with the first no oh,
and don't say who it is or anything like that,
but where and in my mess ups too, and some
of them were my fault. I didn't know I did
things wrong.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Yeah, oh my god. I think you probably have experiences.
I think everyone has. Like assuming someone's on the same
page as you is my biggest mistake.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
Mine also is assuming they're doing as much work and
is caring as much as I am. They're not, and
they're not, and and and the actualization is, of course
they're not.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Of course they're not.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Of course they're not. But they weren't doing it even
as much as I thought they should have anyway. Yeah,
so I had to go first of all, no one's
gonna work as hard for me as me because only
I'm the only me. Yes, however, uh, they're not doing crap.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
I know, like separating that is a thing. Yeah, and yeah,
just in this business, everyone has their own opinions. It's
like everything is taken personally at a time. You know.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Do you ever read the Four Agreements?
Speaker 2 (45:52):
No?
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Very and uh it's it's it's so easy. It's like
a very very very thin book. You can read it
in an hour. But when you say that, I usually
read it once a year. And one of them is
don't take anything personal in business. It's very very hard
for me to do because I'm so insecure, which creates
wild competitiveness that I take everything personally and want to
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burn everyone down because they're my end, the me. If
we're not the same.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
No one can have it but me, absolutely yes.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
And anybody I've ever competed against, I hate them. And
then I realize, as I get older, maybe I don't
have but I do have that, and I still have
that in me that have to fight sometimes. But the
Four Agreements is tremendous because it is just like the
whole section of it is, don't take anything personal in
business because they're not doing it to be personally ad
and if they are, that's a different situation. But I
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had to learn that. That's tough because I took everything
personal and business because business was so personal to me. Yes,
and it's got to be personal to you because you're right,
so much of what you do is personal, like what
you're writing about, like your product is personal.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Yes, I'm like, don't disrespect my art. This is like
my child, you know, And.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
To them it's not their child. It's business. They can
see it that way, and you know what, that's what
they're supposed to do. They're supposed to see it like business. Yes, yes,
And it's finding that right dynamic.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
And I feel like I've found that, like range is
so my current managers, they're so professional in that way
it's business, but they respect me as a person and
an artist and a creative and that's like, I don't know,
that's just hard to find. But I think also everyone's
it's like a relationship, Like everyone's dynamic is going to
be different.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Cherry Valley Show.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Yes, Yeah, so there's more to come on what that means,
But basically, I just wanted to put together a show
that's the only headline show I've ever done headline, and
I just wanted to sing with my friends and my band.
I just put together an awesome band that I love
and they're some of my closest friends. And I just
(47:53):
wanted to put out a show in Nashville where my
family could come, my friends could come, to be honest,
and I think I want to do some more of
those because it was just awesome and fun.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
I love Ashley Monroe.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
Yes, she's like my sister.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
Did we talk about Carter when Ashley was here at all?
I think so. Yeah. I've known Ashley for a long time.
And I was telling Ashley because there were there were
a few years we didn't talk and Ashley got sick
for a while, and and we didn't talk because for
any we didn't talk because we weren't talking, but just
grow grow marriage all for her. But what I was
telling her was, I know we haven't talked in a
(48:30):
long time, but I don't feel like we haven't talked
like That's how much I like value her.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
She's like a spiritual person to me.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
For sure, Lucas Nelson. I met Lucas in California, and no,
I knew of his music, and I will listen to
it a little bit, and then I knew it was
the real, the whole deal, and we were at it.
He plays golf, he's a big golfer.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
I don't think I knew that.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
Yeah, So we were at the Pebble Beach Pro and
both of us were two of the celebrities there by exactly,
we're wildly famous, and Lucas is friends with one of
my friends, and so we kind of were in the
group together. And the first night of the event, they
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everybody that has like a skill or a talent goes
up and it's just entertaining. So, you know, sobody gets
up by a couple of songs and make it's up,
and so Lucas I want to go. I'll go up
and do some songs. And so he goes up for
like threes.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Oh my god, right, it's completely different.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
Oh my god. It was like my wife and I
were like, what just happened here?
Speaker 2 (49:42):
It's pretty crazy to watch.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
And so An he's such a lovely, kind guy. Because
then after that we got to know him more because
that was just he was so good and they weren't
Alanda giants. We get to see great people all the time.
We lived where everybody great comes. And still it was
like when I watched Lucas play, I was there's an
that's an alien. Yeah, that's an So how do you
know Lucas.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
So there's this house in West Nashville. I guess, I
guess I shouldn't say where it is, but the pretty
large area. Yeah, it's pretty large area. It's this old
house that's kind of falling apart, but a lot of
people I know live in it. That's how I met
my boyfriend because he used to live there. Ashley has
a writing spot there, Lucas Uh, that's where his Nashville
spot is, Magmacree, ben Chapman. A lot of hippies called
(50:26):
the Hippie House, so they all write there. So I
just would go over there all the time, and it's
like feels like the seventies. You're like, there's a back
porch we're all smoking on and hanging out. And I
think that's just the type of people I gravitate towards.
Like I love that you said alien, because I there's
a lot of creative people in this town. But I
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really gravitate towards people who are like it's bleeding out
of them and like they have to do this because
it's in them, not just for any other reason. And
so that's how I met him. We I think, honestly,
I was writing a stairs with Ashley Monroe and Connie
Harrington and Lucas knocked on the door to see if
we had coffee or something, and he was holding a
guitar and just sat down and started writing with us.
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It's the first time I met him. By the end
of the song, we're like, oh, you weren't even in
here before. But it's just that, like the inertia of
creativity is always in that house, which is cool.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
Another person that played I'm talking about the last show, Yeah,
that I think is so special and lover and I
would take a pellet for her.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
Not a bullet, Not a bullet, a pellet, a Pellett paintball.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Is Jillian Jacqueline, Yes, like and Jill. I took Jilly
into a bunch of shows with me, like two tours ago.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
Yeah, because I think I when I was going out
with you, I asked her about it. She's like, he's the.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
Best oh good. Yeah, yeah, not creepy at all.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
He's like, she's like, he's super mean.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
Yeah. Well I just would also get like, not me
at all. I mean I don't get this, but I
that's good. Yeah, people you can ask because this sounds weird. Man. Yeah,
it's like some dudes like, hey, come and yes you know,
yeah I know. Yeah, so you're not creepy. I'm not.
I don't think I'm creepy at Also, thank you for
(52:07):
validating my thought that I am not great. But yeah,
Jillian is really amazing.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
She's awesome, and she's an unreal songwriter and she's Tofer's
sister in law.
Speaker 1 (52:19):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
So it's just that God to love incest Well.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
They don't do it, yeah, but that it's incestual but
not really, not like Arkansas and not like where I'm from,
where we do it with our family.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
Yeah exactly exactly. That's how you got here.
Speaker 1 (52:35):
Exactly how else would I be here? You know what
school is. I do know you, and I've seen you
play and I've heard your voice. Not interesting voice, but
I've heard your voice. What you speak for, what you
speak at people are going to love you.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
It's just a matter of time, and it's the strategy
of what you're deciding, what your label decides. It's like
people are going to love you. There are certain people
that I meet in this town on What's two stories
and just pops into my head. One Ella was on
the show yesterday. We haven't aired it yet, but she
(53:12):
when that song sharted to blow up, and they weren't
like put her radio. I just started playing it because
I was like, this is a good song and I
love it and.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
It's different exactly, like thank you for giving us something different.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
It's awesome exactly. And I was like, this is fun
and really good because of course she's talking in it.
But then the chorus it's grace. And so I played
the song and it's not like I found the song
it blew up. But I started playing the song a
little bit and I was like, let's get her up here.
And so she came up. And Riley was up with
(53:42):
her yesterday too. But some real she has texture about her.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
Yeah she's a bad ass, yes, and real country girl.
Speaker 1 (53:51):
Right there, and like said stuff, Yeah, she's smart. And
there's a difference in coming into doing a fine interview
and answering questions and saying things then coming in and
she just was like, this is why I am. I'm
just gonna I'm just gonna say stuff. And she wasn't
like worried about it, like it was. That was refreshing
and the first time I'd ever met her.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
She's a refreshing person.
Speaker 1 (54:11):
And when you mentioned her earlier, I was like, me, Pin,
I'm gonna come back to that because she but she
and I'm gonna put you guys in a category here.
I didn't know her. She had the song blow Up
Somebody that I met probably seven years ago, and I've
been a diehard fan of her as a creative and
she's just now starting to pop and she was on
my show today. We recorded with her is Cassie Ashton
(54:34):
Love and seven years ago, I'm.
Speaker 2 (54:38):
Like, thank you for all catching on right, It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
I was so blown away by her then, and I
would have her coming. She'd played with Ryan and she
played shows with me, and I would be amazed that
nobody else was so amazed. She was a huge deal. Yeah,
I would be like, how are people missing this?
Speaker 2 (54:54):
I don't get that.
Speaker 1 (54:55):
And but now she performed today and again she's now
she's got to she's it's hitting for her, and I
just always felt like, I don't know what the wind
needs to be like. But people are going to love
her because she's she's definitely different.
Speaker 2 (55:09):
Yes, she is herself, yes, And.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
That's that's the that's the vibe that I get from you,
not just today but in general. Because we've been able
to spend a little bit of time together, people are
going to love you. And I hope it's in eight months,
twelve months. I hope it's on that level. You're already
growing your base. And if it's not eight months or
twelve months, it's going to be. At some point people
are going to love you. There's only a few people
that I feel that way about. I'm excited for you.
(55:34):
It's crazy. It's super cool. And when people meet you
either are like, oh, like Carter, Wow, she's really white.
Then all of a sudden you slice them and dice
them and then you fire them and then they're like,
I don't work for you, Like you're fired anyway. You
know she's hardcore.
Speaker 2 (55:47):
Because that McDonald's you're fired.
Speaker 1 (55:49):
Bitch, How did you encode for me?
Speaker 2 (55:51):
We met at a wedding. Actually this there's a videographer
company called running bear and one of the it's a
brother sister duo and the girl's name is Alexa, and
she got married and we were sat next to each
other at a table and I was like stoned and
didn't know anyone feeling weird, and he was just I mean,
(56:13):
you know, Tofer, he talked to me right off the bat,
and I mean, I feel like we were like brother
sister in a past life or something, because he just
feels like family. And ever since then we've just been
writing together. I think that was three years ago, and
I don't know. It is stuff like that where I
look back and I'm like, I thought I had it
figured out writing wise before I met Tofer, and not
(56:35):
that like he's made me the writer I am. But
all the things that happen past the point where you
thought you were ready is how you actually get ready
for a moment, I think. And so I'm like, it
can take another year, that's fine with me, but I'm
I'm like getting ready for the moment.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
You know it in this What's funny is in five
years you're gonna look back and go And I thought,
I know what I was talking about, fib, But but you
should always be like that. Yeah, I mean it's.
Speaker 2 (57:03):
I saw some quote. I don't I'm not going to
say the quote right, but it was like, your art
isn't real enough if you're not embarrassed by it a
year later.
Speaker 1 (57:11):
That's exactly. I hate watching listening to anything I've ever done.
I won't be watching because I'm no. It makes me
cringe if I watch, like even something old of me
on TV from a year two years ago, I know,
but then I can then I appreciate that because that
means that I feel like I must have grown beyond
what that is.
Speaker 2 (57:31):
Yeah, because I want to be the person that's like
I killed that every time. I mean sometimes you're like
I always.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
Want to kill it right then, but like a year later,
I should be like, you know what, I'm better than
that now. I should be that way.
Speaker 2 (57:45):
That's my goal always. I'm trying to only be competitive
with myself.
Speaker 1 (57:48):
Nowadays, Yeah, I wish that were my goal. I still
want to kill everybody. There's some people I'm just like
I got I'm not going to mention any names here.
I would tell you off off, Mike, but I got
a certain artist called the request line this morning to
fight me, to.
Speaker 2 (58:03):
Fight you, to be like he's pissed.
Speaker 1 (58:06):
No, no, to he was pissed at something. I like
that accurate. Yeah, I mean fight, he didn't want to.
He probably would have come to punch me in the
it's well known. Yeah, I don't have a great relationship
with them, and we've him and we've publicly not had
a great relationship. We've gone at huh. I bet you
(58:26):
don't give me give me one letter in the first name.
Don't even said don't do first letter yank. Oh no, no, no, we.
Speaker 2 (58:35):
Had a totally different that's.
Speaker 1 (58:38):
A funny story, and that's a great that's an awesome story. No, no,
this person is like current current ish digging. I'll tell
you rafter and you might even be friends with them,
and that's okay. Yeah, probably not, Mike, you think. I
don't think so. I don't think she is either. She's
too cool. But I this person had done some things
(59:01):
that I did not feel were I like how some
things were handled professionally, but they were personally professional, meaning
that he dick me over in a way. That and
then no apology and then just like we're gonna a
total blowoff, like it was no respect. I shouldn't say
(59:21):
it was a very and I might have been on
stage made some jokes that were quite funny, and then
they may have come back, and they might have come
back at me on social media, and I might So
it's we've gone back and forth. And I said yesterday
on the show, and we can bleep this part, Mike,
(59:42):
I'm gonna say of our context. Yeah, and we'll end
with this because I could do this for two hours,
so you just like talk about stuff. I also have
people here, and I've been here now long. I've been
here longer than you. I'm older than you. But I
had a very similar experience in getting here and being
a bit different and going through the process of people
not understanding me at all. Yes, and I'm like, I'm
(01:00:06):
pretty nice and like I'm I'm kind of.
Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Cool and I'm not going to make you understand me.
Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Yeah, it's just right. And so I was like, I'm
not I'm just decided I'm not gonna be friends with
any artists because I want to always be able to
say my opinion. Like that was my point. Don't want
to be friends with no one. I don't trust them anyway.
No artists am I going to be friends with. However,
there were a few that I'm like throwing my best
friends because they wore me down and I had to
start to realize, you know what, I can't think everybody's
a douchebag.
Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Yeah, but it's good to be skeptical.
Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
I'm totally a skeptical yeah, all the time. But there's
a few that have broken through where I'm like, they're
really great people. So I would like to encourage you
have a few.
Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
It's not like you have a few.
Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
In the industry's weird though, because you never quite know
what's up with them. Like what I just felt like
somebody was using me for something.
Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
They are right until you get to that point where
they are like we're just humans.
Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
Right, or they're they have I'd be very general, they
have more than I do in this area, so they
don't need me Like that was a big deal.
Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Yeah, that's probably nice.
Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Like one of my dearest friends not a bullet take
a really strong pellet for is Brett Eldridge, and he's
super anxiety written like I am, we're totally weirdos we
get scared of him. Tickets sque so that we're like,
are there be going to sell? Does anybody like, well,
they like us tomorrow, but I wouldn't, you know, But
like I trust that guy. Now, I got a couple
(01:01:25):
of those. So I hope you have a couple of those,
because you need a couple of those.
Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
I do. I've lost a few, but you get one.
Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
And my point with Brett was he didn't need me.
He had so many more he doesn't need. He needs
nothing from me except friendship, and.
Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
That's what it should be about.
Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Yeah, it's not though it's not. I don't even try
to reader, Mike, and they're sitting there. Okay, So here's
what I want to say. Instagram at Carter Faith. TikTok
at Carter Faith. All Right, the aftermath it's on ten twelve,
So one two Jennifer March April, May, jun July, Augustber October. So, Mike,
when this comes out, it won't be October twelve yet,
(01:01:59):
is it? No? It okay, week before so in like
a week. Yes, we'll try to know the aftermath. I've
not heard it aftermath, so that will be out. You're
out doing shows, you do some Carly stuff, some Midland stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
You're doing some loot grime stuff this fall that'll be announced,
and just festivals, random stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Do you have merch.
Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
I'm making merch because I love merch.
Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Well, I was going to say, too, that's a great
way to support an artist that you like if they're
not headlining shows is to buy their merch.
Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Yes, please buy my merch. I'm going to bring it.
Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
When she makes it. Please buy her merch.
Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
It'll be cute, I promise.
Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Well, I don't want it. Then I needed like no,
not no, not ugly, no like next, no, no like
normal ugly. I was like, I don't want it. Cute.
She's like that is ed ugly sre. Yeah, definitely, we'll
make it match your face ugly it is. I. I
really enjoy you too, Yeah, you really enjoy your two
(01:02:59):
That's yeah. It was really cool. And I'm rooting for you.
And whenever you're ready, ready, like and it's that you're
you guys are going because you've been on the show,
but but that doesn't count whatever. It's like real time
and you're like, we're taking this to whatever You're up
immediately perfect, So you will be there.
Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
I will.
Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
I will make sure of it, or I will cancel
you from this town because I have that power. No,
if I don't this time, be half dead all right
Carter Faith and go at Carter Faith. Good to see Carter,
Thanks for coming by, Thanks for listening to a Bobby
Cast production
Hey, everybody, Bobby. Here, I'm going to play something that
(00:03):
I'm super proud of. And I think when she did
the interview, she was starting to be known and I
was a big fan of her. But she just got
nominated for Album of the Year at the ACMs for
Cherry Valley, and I think a lot of people were surprised,
not because she's not awesome, but because some people were like, huh,
I haven't been introduced to her yet. So this was
an interview that I really loved doing. I took her
(00:25):
out on the road and she opened some shows, you know,
when I was doing stand up. Just a massive fan,
so I wanted to reintroduce Carter Faith to you and
then check out her music. She's awesome. So here she
is newly nominated for an ACM Award for Album of
the Year. Here is Carter Faith. Carter Faith. Hello, Hello, Bobby.
(00:47):
What what cities were we together?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
We were in Wichital for two nights. I remember that
because I wrote a song called two Nights in Wichital
when I got back.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yeah, I remember you being really good, and I know
you're really good anyway, and then I know t for
who I didn't I purposefully did not ask tofer who
produces rites accurate for you?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
He produces music.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I don't know. I don't know if you're write with
them at all, but I do. And so I purposefully
did not ask him about you because I know it
would just be raving reviews then you work together. But yes, absolutely,
And so you're awesome. Thank you, And I hope that
my people were really nice to you.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Oh my god, it was so fun. I thought your
show was amazing. I think that's the first time I
ever went to like stand up show in my life.
It was so good and it was honestly, like really touching.
It was awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Thanks. And So what's funny about you is that in
person quite demure. Uh, you know, you are a pretty
soft spoken individual in human life, but guy, dang, when
you sing and like you, it is like attitude central
and how you right and how you sing, there's a
(02:05):
flip there, Huh Do you feel it?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I definitely do. I think, you know. I I think
I come off as self spoken. I'm really like I'm
an analyzer, like ever since I was little. My Mom's like,
you're a thinker. I'm always I'm taking everything in, you know,
So I feel like one of my superpowers is I
just stay back in the room and see how people are.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Kind of so, maybe it's not even self spoken. Maybe
it's just you're just kind of waiting. Yeah, you're observing
until you decide if you even want to be spoken
at all.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah. I it probably sounds weird for me to say
this because this is my job. But I don't feel
comfortable with like attention unless I want it.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I'm the same way.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, it's a weird thing to explain because obviously we
want attention. This is what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I'm wildly introverted. I am too until it's time to work,
and then I am overtly Yeah, extroverted.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
It's like that one tiny part of yourself that can
be like that, and you go all the way to
that part of you.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Quiet kid or a loud kid. What were you like
as a kid?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
So quiet?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Oh? Really? See I was not? Yeah, but so okay.
Then I have a million questions. If you're a kid,
how you got here? Where'd you grow up?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I grew up in a little town david'son North Carolina,
where Steph Curry. He's our claim to fame because he
played at He played basketball at Davidson College, and that's
like the only celebrity we have.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Do you remember him playing there?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yes, because they made it to the elite age.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yea.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
They had a run and like the news came and
we all got I went to Davidson Elementary, which was
like a block away from Davidson College, and we all
got to leave school one day and go like be
on the news. It was so fun. It was like
small town fame thing that never happens.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
So you're from what's the name of your town again?
It is david it is and you went to Davidson
Elementary and that college is in the town.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, that college is in the town, so there must be.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
You have ten thousand people that live there at least, right, Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
It's a lot of it's townies versus school kids. I
think it's a weird place because it's all the school kids.
It's a really smart school. It's a very liberal town
in the middle of a very conservative state. So it's
just all those things.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Why did you stay home and go to school? Are
you go to college?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I did? I went to Belmont.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Oh, so you came here for college?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I did?
Speaker 1 (04:23):
So you did all the high school there It's just
confusing to me when there's a college and high school
and elementary all the same name, because we have that
here too with Lipscomb. Lipscomb has elementary and Lipscomb University
and that confuses me.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
It confuses me too because I guess they're connected, but
how are they connected?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Went to all Lipscomb basketball game. Don't have to be
fourth grader, let's even college. So I was like, let's go.
So it's confusing. I see you grew up in Davidson.
Parents together.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
My parents are together right still?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yes, older brother, sister.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Have an older sister and a younger brother.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
How much older is your sister?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
My sister is four years older than me about.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
So when you're because my mom got pregnant at fifteen,
she had me. Yeah, so when you say young parents,
like I feel that on a deep level. So I
understand how what it was like having really young parents,
but not really knowing because that was all I knew.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, because I think it was kind of the norm
more than it is now.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
And we're from small towns, which it was very but
also for in my situation, not normal for a fifteen
year old to get pregnant, regardless unless it's like the twenties.
But I know what it's like to have the young
parents and whenever adults, I mean since whenever kids are
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required to do adult things, sometimes they still make kid
decisions because they're still so young. Meaning I remember my
mom being twenty five, you're talking about twenty that's crazy,
You're talking about twenty right, right, twenty four right, like
my mom being a year older than you, and I'm
in fifth grade. Great when I graduated, so and then
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I look back and she just seems like such an
adult to me. But I look at me now, going
how in the world with somebody twenty one, twenty two
with a kid grown kid like they're expected to make
adult decisions.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yes, and put themselves aside. Really every single second of
every day.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
That is young young young young parents. That is that
is a tough job for sure, which I'm going to
being a very old parent. We don't have kids yet.
We will have kids at some point, But I was
always so terrified to have kids because I didn't want
to be in that same situation where it's like I
don't want to like not have resources and be so young.
You're fine anyway, Yeah, that's that aside from that dude.
But I'm gonna tell your card, I have some really
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dumb friends that have kids and do just fine. Yes.
So like it's like I have friends that are idiots
that are pilots. Yeah, and it scares me, but I'm like,
you know what I feel. Okay, if they're idiots and
pilots have never crashed, then I feel pretty good with
most pilots.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yes, I feel. I've seen like people give their babies
a bottle Mountain Do to drink if they're thirsty.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Like that's where that's pretty funny. That's also like where
I come from in Arkansas basically was milk.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Like, we're all gonna be fine.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
What was what was your hometown? Like, like the school
was it at three A, four A? How big was
it your elementary high school?
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Wee? So elementary school was pretty small. Like I think
my whole entire school life until I went to college
was like one hundred kids per grade. I knew everybody.
I mean, that's not super small, but.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
That's still pretty small enough. Oh. My point with your
sister was how old was your mom when she had
your sister?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
My mom, I remember my dad was because I remember
there's photos of my sister at his college graduation. Really yeah,
so it was like that age.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah, that's crazy to think about.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And I mean it's awesome now we're all like best friends.
Like my parents are my best friends. They're everything to me.
But yeah, I just think about all the things they
did for us.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
They had to give up.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
They gave up everything. I realized the other day I
was talking to someone. I was my dad super straight
laced and works every day, will work every day till
he can't. But he played baseball growing up, and that's
what he went to college for. That's how he got
out of his small town, was a scholarship for baseball.
And I was like, oh my god. He was a dreamer.
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That's a dream and they gave that up just to
be parents and take care of their kids.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
It's funny you can appreciate the dreamer part of it
because you're also a dreamer.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Right, at anytime that you want to do something that
people around you haven't done, that's bigger than not only
yourself but anyone around you. That's that's chasing a dream
for sure. And yeah, and now here you are doing it.
How do they feel about you moving to Nashville?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
They're so supportive. They. I was just thinking, I mean,
I was coming here today, so I was thinking about
myself and.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I think about that every time I come here to.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Myself me again. And I was just thinking how they
every single time I got on a stage growing up,
I literally to be pushed onto stage. So they saw
something in me way before probably they could even and
put that into words, and so they pushed me to
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come here.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
They what do you think they saw on you so early?
Then if you were I won't say reluctant, because if
you just didn't want to do it, you wouldn't have
done it, and they wouldn't have made made you do it.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
They saw that I was. It was fear, you know,
because again I was super quiet. My mom always called
me cautious growing up, like my little brother. If we
spent a lot of time at the beach because I'm
from near the beach, and he would be in the
water and I would scream my head off. I was like,
someone go take care of him, Like that's my personality.
So I was so scared to be on any stage
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have people looking at me.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Why did they think initially or why did you think
initially you'd want to be on stage because it had
to start. Yeah, some spark had to create interest.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I think something my parents tell me is I would
just sing at the top of my lungs in the
backseat of the car when you drive around to the radio,
because you it's your parents, Like that doesn't feel like
an audience when you're super little. And I think they
could just tell I I could carry a tune and
I would set up little concerts for my stuffed animals
in my room. I remember I leave the pieces by
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the records like till that song was in the ground,
you know. I just think they had a feeling that
there was something in me. I was obsessed with reading
and like reading out loud and words like when I
was couldn't even read. That's how I learned to read,
was like reading to myself. I don't know, it's really
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weird because we'll talk about it now and they're like,
I don't know, you just had that bone in your
body that you were gonna leave this place.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Was anybody musical in your family?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
My dad's mom was musical. She was a cruise ship singer. Wow,
And we don't really talk. I mean, it was never
something I knew though until like trying to know who's
musical in my family, and then my little brother is musical.
He loves piano and writing little songs. And as I'm older,
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I see how many more people in my family are creative,
like my aunt loves to paint. My two of my
cousins love to sing, but none they've never took in
the leap to go do that, So that seems different
to me.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
In high school, were you the musical kid?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I was the secret musical kid. I didn't want anyone
to know my Like it was very weird to me
because my real name is Carter Faith Jones, but in
high school I went by Carter Jones obviously, So I
made a YouTube channel that was Carter Faith and it
really bothered me when people found that out and would
like call me Carter Faith at school and I don't know,
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just people knowing that I could do that or that
I cared about it was really embarrassing for me.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Why you wanted to make the channel yet you didn't
want people to know you made the channel. But was
it only people that you knew?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yes, people that I knew.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
That's my because because that was that's vulnerable, Yes, very
vulnerable if people you know then can judge you, and
you're that. That's so I understand that. Do you feel
like your early your answer is gonna be no, for sure?
Do you feel like your early YouTube work was quality?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
No? Not quality? But I look back and I'm like,
I can sing and I like, I don't even look up,
like I'm like, you know, clutching my guitar for dear
life as usual. But I don't know, there's something there.
And I think back and I always would dream of this,
like this was what I wanted, even if I didn't
even admit it to myself really for a while.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Whenever you decided to come to Nashville to go to college,
was it I'm gonna I want to go to Nashville,
but the safe way to go to Nashville is to
go to college.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. And my family is very passionate
about education. So my dad is like, I will pay
your rent if you get a degree. You cannot drop out.
I tried to drop out one million in eighteen times
and I didn't, and they're very they love that. They
love that got my degree. But yeah, that was how
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it was coming here, for sure?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Was it safer to you if you came for college
because you were going to go to school sounds like regardless,
and if you thought I want to be a singer,
that's like a half commit to Nashville. It's a full
commit to go to college here, but it's like a
half commit to the music industry. Yeah, was there a
little safety in.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I was like, I'll be a songwriter, got it, that's safer.
I'll write the four songs that I need to go
and get into this program. And that's what I did.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
What do you mean, so you come and get into
this songwriting program here?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
I got into the songwriting program. There's a teacher there,
Drew Ramsey, who was like really important to me because
he would tell everyone in class he's like, guys, there's
quiet killers in here, like we're talking about He's like,
go rite with Carter. She's quiet. That doesn't mean she's
not a good songwriter, which that like, I don't know.
I think so many times like that in Nashville really
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got me out of my comfort zone, like an a
jolt that I needed.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Having to co write with folks you didn't know. Yeah,
that's literally it's like it's like a first date. Though, yes,
I mean that's what it is. And I would say
with no chance walking up, but that's also not true.
It's not true, but yeah, it's it's it's bizarre because
here you are and let's say they match you and
I up. But like Bobby, you and car are gonna
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go right, and it's like, okay, Well, not only is
it people think, okay, we just sit together and write
a song. But know how you get to the point
of writing a song a concept? Why do you feel
this about the concept? What is the personal You're literally
sharing this semi to intimate details with somebody that you
don't know, And yeah, that's awkward. And I can understand
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how it would be awkward for you to come to
town and be like, oh boy, here we go.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Well, what I would do is I would prepare like
basically a whole entire song and like spit it out
in pieces to act like I was writing it in
the room.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
That's like people that freestyle but they already have it
all prepared in their heads.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
That would be me.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
They're like, let me lay this down, let me go
off the dome, and then they just nail it. But
you know they had the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
No, I'm such a liar.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
That's funny.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, I'm such a liar.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Hang Ty, the Bobby Cast will be right back. Wow,
and we're back on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Did you write it home at all?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Like growing up?
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, like because there weren't probably weren't a lot of
songwriters around you.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
No songwriters. I got to the point where I would
play long cover gigs at the bar in my hometown.
It's called Old Town public House, and no one was
in there. It's just my family and the bar goers.
And I would play like four hour cover gigs. They
pay me like one hundred dollars maybe, and I would
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start I would just get sick of them. I would
play songs twice, like at the beginning and the end.
So I was like, I should write some songs. I
always wrote poetry growing up, Like I always had a
journal caring around with me. I loved reading. I just
love words, So I would write poetry a lot. And
then one day I just wanted to put a song
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that I wrote in my set and not tell anyone,
like put it in the middle, sneak it in. And
so that's what I kind of started doing, just to
see how people reacted.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
And stuff did you learn to play piano.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, I did. When I did the normal piano lesson
thing as a kid, I hated every second of it.
I'm not good with like authority and practicing. So they
were like, Okay, we're not going to force you to
do this because you're wasting our money.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Basically, did you then do it more because they weren't
making you do it?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yes? Yeah, Like that's a mess up thing that I'm
sure I'll work on at some point, but it's not
me here.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, I think acknowledging that it exists more than working
on it because it's what's gotten here and it's kind
of your superpower now, and it's also given you what
your voice is. You have a pretty rebellious voice. What's
crazy about you and your music and what you do
when you like? I like you as a person, and
again we've spent some time together outside of this. I
like you, and you're easy to like and you're super nice.
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But again, you're like a freaking firecracker when it's showtime.
Like I would be scared of you if I just
saw you perform. I'll be like, there's no.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Way, that's hilarious. I feel like someone on my team
recently told me. They were like, I like, I'm intimidated
by you. That is hilarious to me.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
That's truth because you have you're dominating on stage.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, And so I would be like, oh no, no,
she's way cooler than I am. I'm not gonna even
go up and say if it were the case, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Well yeah, I mean I think back to like, my
music for me is a place I can go that
I can't go any other time, and I don't feel
comfortable going there all the time, and so I put
it in my music and it's just like, I mean, escapism.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I guess you come to town, you're in school, you're
writing songs. Did you feel like you liked right songs?
Or was that to you something It was fine, but
it was a conduit to get to the performance, Like
where did that all kind of fall in your head?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I love writing songs. That's my I will die writing
a song probably. I just feel like that's what I'm
here to do. That's what like, that's how I communicate
with myself and with anything else. The performance thing again,
like that is the hardest part of this business for me,
but one of my favorite parts because there's nothing and
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I'm sure you feel this way too. There's nothing like
seeing someone in the audience who you know is connecting
with you and you know is having a great night
and you're just there with them as humans. That's like
so special to me. So I didn't know how I
would feel about performing, but I'm learning to love it
and to get used to that. It's just an uncomfortable
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feeling for me.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
How about the vulnerability in music when you write the
song and has that been a growth process for you?
Were you just kind of weighe in? Yeah, more and
more and more.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I that's another thing, like I don't I can't lie
in my music. I lie a lot in real life.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Like that's what I say too, Like I'm full of
crap until I lie a lot.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I'm a good liar. I love telling people I'm a
bad liar. But in my music, I'm so honest, I think,
and just really emotional and vulnerable because that's the type
of music I love. And that's what I started writing for,
was that feeling that I needed to get out. So
it's almost like, because it's music, it's like a veil
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I can hide pine.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Just how that's the obviously that's the microphone. For me,
it feels fake. Yes, it's not, and it's I can
have and I mean you said how I feel in
that I can have conversations like this conversation now we're having.
If we took the microphones away, I don't think I
would be able to have this intimate conversation and be
this vulnerable. If we're just sitting here talking, I would
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not be able to do that. I get that this
microphone is here. It's not real.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I totally get that even.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Though it's real, Yes, it's not real. I would never
be like, Carl, what's up. It's good to see you.
Let's talk about fat, sad, happy family, even if we
I Nope, no, I this is the Superman Kate.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yes, like events here are my hell, absolute hell. I
will be in the corner the entire time, sucking down
a drink, not talking to anyone.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Do you ever think people feel And I ask this
because I get this about me. People feel because you're
like that that maybe you're rude, yes, and they're like, oh,
she thinks she's too good, when in reality it's like
I don't want to bother anybody.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yes, I'm like, like I went on, this is such
a stupid story. But I went out on the road
with my friend Ella Langley. I got to open two
shows for like two weeks ago, and she let me
ride her bus. That is so nice. A lot of
people do not do that. I'm like, I'm exhausted getting
home from this because my whole, like self dialogue was
am I in the way? Am I in the way?
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When they asked me to come? That's how I feel,
That's literally how my brain works.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Did when when you did Kansas with us? Did I
offer free to fly back with us?
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I think you had too many people would not enough
seats because I think I did.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I'm sure you did, and I'm sure I was.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Like, what I wondered, That's what I wonder when I
said that was if you ended up saying because I
we flew back, and I know, I was like, hey,
save if Carter wants to fly back with us. But
then you had a player and maybe so I was like,
but even but even then, it's like, but I feel
the same way. Yeah, unless I'm really close to them
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or I'm like supposed to be on I totally get it,
because otherwise I feel like I'm just in the way,
why would anybody want to hang out with me?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yes? Why do we hate ourselves like this?
Speaker 1 (21:49):
It's such an insecurity though, that creates what we're able
to do at the same time. So when I started
going to therapy, and when I started really getting to therapy,
I was like, I don't want to get too therapy
because I don't want to lose my superviowse And he
was like, don't be an idiot. Don't be an idiot.
He's like, he's like, you're so broken, don't write about it.
You're still gonna be.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I'm not gonna be able to fix you.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
You graduated school here I did. Yeah, why'd you want
to quit so many times? Like? What was the was
it to do music? Was it? You just tied to school?
Speaker 2 (22:15):
I think Also when I got to town, I was
like there was a quiet confidence in me where I
was like, oh, I'm good at this. I have to
send me So I started writing. That's another thing about
my family. My dad is like, you're going to write
every day you're there. You're going to ask anyone who
write with you to write with you. You're gonna play
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every show Like that's just how their brains worked. Business
and so that's what I did. And eventually, like I guess,
like probably two years into being here, people like Liz
Rose were demming me back and writing with me and
like shit like that. And so by the time I
was done with school, I had a publishing deal offer.
I was like, get me out of here. I'm ready
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to like move on.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
When did you start to gain confidence in yourself in Nashville?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Was it in comparison with others? And not that you
were comparing yourself, but you would actually see other people
do their thing and go, oh, I don't feel so small,
like I can do this? Or did you have did
you have it before you got here?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I think what was really momentous, what's the word monumental
for me was there were there would be publishers that
would come into our songwriting class and listen to all
our songs. And I remember feeling like kind of outcast
because I didn't write with a lot of the other
Belmont people. I didn't like make friends in college again
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back to you know, knew everyone my whole life. So
when I came to college, I was like, Okay, it's
I'm scared. And so I would write by myself or
write with people in town, and I think it was
really special for me because people like actual Nashville publishers
would come into our class and they would always notice me.
And that was when I would get noticed by people
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actually in town, and I was like, Okay, maybe I
don't have what Belmont has right now, and I thought
that was a negative, but maybe I have what Nashville
wants and I can go right in town and I'm
doing something right, like I'm writing the way that actual
writers write instead of still learning, like I'm just diving
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into the deep end. Because I didn't write since I
was like an eight year old write in songs like
wanting to do this. I feel like I just went
in super naive and that was really helpful for me.
And so those publishers would let me write with their
signed writers, and people just kind of lifted me up
while I was still in school. And I think that
gave me confidence. People giving me confidence, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Yeah, but this time doesn't give anything.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
So I would say any confidence they gave you was earned,
because this is a very value based down They must
have seen value in you in some way that you
could help them in some way. There are a couple
of good ones. But this is a this is a business.
Sounds a business.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
No, I've I've learned that, so I don't watch it.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Because you're good. It's definitely wasn't anyone doing you any charity,
but it's people recognizing.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah. And that recognition, though, was really great for me,
just because my parents love what I write. My friends
love what I write. But who cares about that? You know?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah? Most parents and friends love what their friends. Right?
What about singing? Were you? Were you doing vocal anything
in school? I was like singing class? I don't know. No,
do they have those? They have vocal classes, right, but
but are they like opera or do they have like country?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
You can major in voice at Belmont, but you have
to take opera class.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Or can you do a voice? Can you do like
country music voice? I don't think so, don't either.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I mean, I don't know what they would teach. I
guess what are they teach in songwriting?
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Though they teach a lot, but what do they teach
in songwriting?
Speaker 2 (25:55):
We did a lot of like analyzing songs, which I
think is smarter than like being like this is your
rhyme scheme, because that's just you know, you need to
know those rules to break them.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Rhymes rhymes dot com, rhymeson dot com, there's you go.
You're looking for a.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Rhyme if you need to be tall, how to rhyme
something there?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Seriously? So you evaluate songs or not evaluate, but you
listen to songs and then try to understand what made them.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
What made it good. Like I remember we listened to
Space Cowboy by Casey and we're just all like, this
is just simple, simple, beautiful, Like there's a complex part here,
this melody here, like that's what we do, which I
think is helpful.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
That's super cool. Yeah, what artists do you hear? Maybe
not even artists the word I think artists were not singers.
What artists do you hear? They kind of speak for you.
And I asked that because I was had favorite artists
and singers and stuff. But when I was in my
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twenties or so, like John Mayer would say stuff and
I would be like, oh, I think that, Oh this
is somebody who's like songwriting my thoughts. I never had
that happen before.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
And there are comedians that we'll say things and I'm like, oh,
I thought that I just didn't say that in that
way nearest funny and nearest compelling as they did. But
like there's who what artists did that for you?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I think like early Miranda Lambert that was my badass side,
you know, and then Casey Musgraves. I remember hearing Mary
go around in a Walmart parking lot and I made
us stay in the car till we listened to the
whole thing for the first time. Just people like that,
they're just talking about small town normal life because that
is what most of America is. And that's definitely the
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life I lived, was just normal life with these like
very intense feelings that all creatives have, that all people have, probably,
so it's definitely a lot of Casey Miranda pistolanies.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Always have you met Maranda?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
I have not met Miranda.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Very guys are very similar just in Yeah, I'm lucky
enough to know Miranda relatively well at this point. Seems
real and very soft spoken and quiet. Yeah, and unless
she's like doing her thing, that's not her thing, Yeah,
it's it's it's pretty wild because again, she is such
a freaking fire crack.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah she is. She's I want her to like stand
up for me. You know in a bar, I want
her to be on my mind.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
And she would and she'd cut somebody too. But other
than that, she's just quiet Miranda who's really not going
to get in anybody's way and be a wallflower. But
as well, a lot of similarities there.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, I just like to observe and you can tell
that in her music, I think too, which is why
it's not just that badass side. It has that like
real person side too.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Congrets on signing a deal?
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
When did you get that news? Was it a long
work in progress where you kept hoping developing with that?
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I think my long work in progress has been like
finding people on my team that I trust. So I've
gone through some managers, I've gone through some people on
my side, and so that was kind of a long
time coming. I learning how to trust people in this
business is really hard, cause what how can I trust
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any of you?
Speaker 1 (29:09):
A very transactional place, and everybody's your best friend until
it's not easy to be.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Your best friend, which that's business.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
And it is business, But you're right, it feels very
it's very personal. It feels way more personal than it
actually is, especially at first because I felt I fell
into those trappings. At first too, I was like, oh,
this person, this is my best friend. Yes, And then
it turns out.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Then you go to all the other labels and they
all have their same fiel. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm learning
how to clock people quicker, which is helpful. But I
think my experience with Universal Nashville all has to do
with Hannah Wilson and Cyndy Maybe there. Hannah Wilson, I've
known her since I was still at school, and she
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just loved what I did and would come to my
shows and come to my c Fest Deata heat show,
you know that no one was there. And then when
I met Indie, maybe she just she just liked what
I did. Like She's like, I don't need you cutting
outside songs. I like your voice. I need your voice.
I think it's important. And when you're a songwriter that
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just speaks volumes. And then there's a woman there, Chelsea
Blythe who I love so much too. She's from LA
and she has just a whole different view on country music,
which I think we're seeing is very important.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
When you sign a deal one what does that mean now?
But were you nine six three months working toward this
specific deal with these specific people. Were you wondering, I
wonder if they're gonna sign me or was it like
a random call, Hey Carder, you want to do Yeah?
I'm all I mean like, what is that? What is
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that process? What's the build? It's different for everybody, Like.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Mine was like I met with a lot of labels
and they all act interested, you know, and then you
like keep and then you're like, dude, am I interested
in them? It is like I felt like I was
a bachelorette, you know, which is so weird. And because
I'm not this TikTok viral girl, like I don't have
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these like crazy, They're not going to give me like
five million dollars, you know. So I'm like they have
to care about my music and I have to feel that.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Well, they need a long term invest in you.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yes, I'm trying to do this my whole life. This
is my career. So I think I met with a
lot of LA labels. I met with a lot of
Nashville labels, and I basically at one point just told Universal,
which is this is probably bad business on my half.
But I was like, I'm only going to sign with
you guys, so it's now and never like, let's go
and it was done in like a month.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Were other labels making you different offers or was there that? Wow?
But that's pretty cool. It does mean all the officers
are goodfair or yes, but that's cool.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
No, that is really freaking cool. I don't know. I'm
just I'm just a girl, and you guys want to
give me money to make music.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
That's pretty cool for you. Hesitant to sign at all?
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Yeah, just because I again, I don't like authority. This
is very personal to me, all the things. I just
it's scary to put your like my heart and soul
in someone else's hands. That's what it truly feels like.
But I also that's what I needed to level up.
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I thought about it a ton, and that's what I
decided I needed to get to that next level. So
I keep going.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Did you do the thing where you took the picture
with the papers in front of you?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:37):
I did.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I was like, I was like, I expect you all.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
There, Yeah, everybody's around you, and then you give up
the picture. How long ago to take the picture?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
That was in March? I think?
Speaker 1 (32:47):
And then do you get to post it right away
or it's like we gotta hold onto what you officially
announce it.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I think I posted it right away.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
I also don't really ask permission for a lot of things,
so I'm just like, sorry, it's announced.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
I felt that.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
And so when you sign with the label, do they
say when if you sign, we'd love to have you.
Here is our version of a long the long term
strategy we would do with you. Yeah, because like an agency,
I I switched agents recently a year and a half ago,
and I was I liked my agency CAA, but my
personal agent had gotten so big in the political world
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representing people that I felt a bit lost because her
specialty wasn't television, which is what I was doing. And
so she was like, I'm so I said, hey, I'm
gonna talk to other agencies. There's really open and honest,
and all of them were like, come to us wm ME.
It was all right, They're all like but they a
had a different version of what their offerings were. And
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I ended up signing with UTA that's my agent now.
But I liked their long term and they said, okay,
look we're signing now. But in three months, six months,
twelve months, this is what some of them were Just like,
if you signed with us, We're gonna be rocking immediately.
And I'm like, that's kind of are like I see you. Yeah, yeah,
it's like that sounds really good, but that's kind of
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bull crap where it's a label situation similar and what
about where you signed to work? Like what was the plan?
What do they tell you?
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Oh my god. My favorite thing for people to say
is like, I mean, are we doing this or not?
And I'm like, we're not so sorry. I think the
plan with them is like I'm trying to be a
big fucking deal, you know, and I am going to
work for that and this is what I love and
I'm gonna want to do that.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Are are you going? I need to I need to
single out tomorrow whenever this happens, or are you going?
I need you guys to let me find that that
I think is that single we need tomorrow whenever that
day comes.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
I came in with an album that I wanted to record,
and so I was like, this is my album that
I want to record. I'm still writing, I write three
times a week, but I need to know that you
guys are gonna let me put out an album next year.
And because I need to put out music. I think
that's the game now being frequents. I need your guys's
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help getting me on tours or just helping me get
out in front of real people stuff like that. And
I also, I feel like what I really loved about
Universal is that they just appreciate my point of view.
Like they're not gonna tell me I can't say a
certain word or say something a certain way, and I'm
very clear about that in meetings. So I think just
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I just love that they respect me and I respect them.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Feels like that what I appreciate about you is not
what your point of view is. Is that you have
one right, yeah, Like I don't need to agree with
anyone's ideas or point of view or for art. Yeah,
but I do really love when people have one, yeah,
and one that is ninety three percent formed already. I'm
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always about ninety three percent. You're always changing, yeah, a
little bit right. And so do you feel like that's
what they liked about you? I think so is that
not so much exactly what you say and they agree
with everything about what the deep but they were like, oh,
we just like this. She freaking has an idea of
what she wants and who she is I think so.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
I mean, I'm like, I'm gonna have weekly meetings like
this is what I expect.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
That's freaking awesome.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
But my parents are business people, so they're like you
know that. I think that's why I've been successful in
a way, is because I've had both those points of view.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
All Right, it's a little different. Yeah, song is a
little different for it. I mean, to me, it sounds
a little different.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
It's very different.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
What's up?
Speaker 2 (36:29):
So honestly, me and Tofer we made like I was
talking about the album I brought to Universal that I
want to record. We had made album before that, and
again like management switched up. I was like, I don't
feel comfortable releasedince as the album doesn't feel like me anymore.
But there was a lot of songs we recorded that
I really loved, and Alright was one of those. And
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I just felt like, it's not like I'm on country
radio and I need to be any sort of thing
right now, Like I just love this song and I
want to put it out, and we say it feels
like the Willy Wonka soundtrack with like Ana del Rey vibes,
and I love both those things. I love. I just
love a lot of other influences artistically than country, Like
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I am country, but I like playing into all those
other influences as well.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
And the irony is that's most people. And the same
irony is businesses, corporations, executives don't really feel safe doing that,
which was my struggle when I moved to town. Was here,
I come. I don't wear a cowboy hair, I don't
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have a belt buckle, and it's like I played hip
hop on my show, but again, I'm from Mountain Pine, Arkansas.
Like the yeah, the trailer party like, and there's different
kinds of country. There's cowboy country, there's redneck hilberty country,
which is what I was right, white trash country. Yes,
And so you know, I come to town, but I
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have background in hip hop and pop and alternative. But
I'm as country as you could possibly be. But this
town was not warm to it for a long time
because it was just so it was different. But the
thing was it wasn't different. And Mike like this this
is I was like just what everybody is. Yes, but
it feels like that your story has so much parallel
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with that. Is that that's what your your sensibilities are
the normal person. Yes, your country, but you also love
Landad del Ray or insert other artists. It's not country
and you can still be country and have all that.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
And I've seen so many female country artists talk about
being put in a box, and I just don't want
to start off on that foot. I feel like I
can not be put in a box if I don't
start in the box. So that's something I'm like super
passionate about doing.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
What words to People will not want you to put
in songs? What words if you put in songs? Do
you have songs?
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (38:59):
But is that my feel like that's even that bad anymore? No,
I don't think that. I feel like I don't neither
because I feel like that it's just the vernacular. And
also it's like just Sabrina Carpenter or let's go there
judging you as an example, because that's a very very
current example, like and please, please please, I mean the
F word, even Taylor. Yeah, I mean they're throwing it's
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it's not a thing. It's just a bunch of forty
five to sixty year olds that wasn't a thing like that.
They're like, well, we can't do this because it was
never done that way before. But it's just not the
same anymore.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
No, And I think girl like not girls like. People
my age see that, and that's how we talk.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
So I agree that I just need people who are like, Okay,
that is real, That is real.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
What's the lyric you have with the f wort in it?
Speaker 2 (39:47):
He only fucks with the strong.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Stuff like drinks or women or.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Yeah, both the songs about both?
Speaker 1 (39:54):
What song is that strong stuff? Is that the only
song you have the effort in it?
Speaker 2 (39:58):
I say, fuck in Carolina burns too?
Speaker 1 (40:01):
What's the what's the context of that?
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Nothing sticks around like a fucked up crown?
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Do you we're either one of those songs ever going
to be and you're like whatever they call a single? Now,
did you make an other like another, like a that's.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Another thing version. I didn't really realize that, like to
have a clean version you have to have a whole
nother master.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
I didn't know that you can't just mute it.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Or like movement.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
So I was like, no, I'm not going to give
you a clean version because I can't pay for another master.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yeah, isn't that crazy this time?
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Did you know that? I thought you or just like
mute it. Yeah, just mute it. And that's like point two,
like version two of the same. I know you're write
three times a week now? Still more?
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Yeah, three usually is the good number.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
What are you writing about most right now? Like just conceptually?
What what?
Speaker 2 (40:55):
What's I I'm like finishing writing for this album that
I'm about to start.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Like what emotion are you feeling most? Like most of
your songs are, even if you don't write them. Oh yeah,
most of your things are happiness, sadness, anger, jealousy, Like
where are you right now?
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Well, so I date another artist, so it's a lot
of like I love you, but we're probably not gonna
end up together, you know that? Like honest feeling.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
I'm not gonna ask who if it's not known, is
it known?
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Yeah? His name and we have a song together, Okay
then okay, Yeah, his name's Tyler Halverson. He's a Texas
country artist.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Let me see this guy looks like, yeah, yeah, that
meet him. That's not him. I'm a different day.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
I'm a different guy.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
No as a guy who worked No, no, no, Tyler Halverson. Yes,
oh yeah, he's definitely got a vibe about him.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
He's on the road every weekend because he does the
whole Texas rigamarole.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
So I'm like writing a lot about missing him and
if he's talking to hoes and shit like that.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
I like, I don't know thing about him, but we
don't I like about him. Yeah, he looks legitimate as
the artist that he is. He also like has a
little softness, like a little nerd like kind of like
a little as it is. Yeah, there's something about him
that's not just like I'm an angry cowboy and I
don't know, there's.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
A lot of country music right now. It feels like
you're just being yelled at.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Does he work prescription glasses? Yes?
Speaker 2 (42:21):
He does.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
I like that too. I think that's why I like
it's really bad and kind of tell something's up there.
And how long you guys been together? Like a year
and a half going pretty good?
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Yeah, he's the best. I mean, he lived here, he
lives here. Yeah, it's just nice to talk to someone
about things that they get and it's not like someone
you're competitive with.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
The Bobby Cast will be right back. M hm, this
is the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Have you had day to day change since you've signed
a deal? Is I feel the same right now, but
you're expecting, like when you're done it to be different.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Yeah, it better be different, right, I'm like, here, better help.
My day to day is just different because I have
to ask more people if I should do something or
ask for forgiveness if I did something wrong. So like more,
I have to answer to more people. But I guess
they're kind of answering to me. That's the mindset I'm taking.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
You have management, I do. Yeah, I'm with range and
so did you have the whole My struggle was for
a long time, I felt like I was working for them,
I know. And then I was like, oh, I hope.
I It took me a long time to realize. Then
I got to be like, I have to make it
like they're working for me now I'm in a really
good spot where we work together. Yes, but they're not
my boss. But I felt like for a long time,
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like I was like, I don't want to get in
trouble with my management. No, I know, did you have that?
Speaker 2 (43:53):
I'm a little girl.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
You're not fooling me without one. But yeah, because that's
a weird thing, especially if the older than you.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Oh yeah, I mean I think what again? What helped
me is too bad experiences with other managers. I had
to learn how to fire someone.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Okay, so you did. So you did have the struggles
early on this Oh.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
Yeah, pretty rough and I had to be a big
girl and make a decision and get out of that
situation or you know, all the things. So I went
into deciding who my manager would be very headstrong, and
I was just like, I'm Carter Jones. This project is
Carter Faith. I want Carter Faith to be all of ours.
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But like I'm the president.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
How long did it take you to be that?
Speaker 2 (44:41):
I started out with them like that because.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
With your current Yeah, so with the first no oh,
and don't say who it is or anything like that,
but where and in my mess ups too, and some
of them were my fault. I didn't know I did
things wrong.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Yeah, oh my god. I think you probably have experiences.
I think everyone has. Like assuming someone's on the same
page as you is my biggest mistake.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
Mine also is assuming they're doing as much work and
is caring as much as I am. They're not, and
they're not, and and and the actualization is, of course
they're not.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Of course they're not.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Of course they're not. But they weren't doing it even
as much as I thought they should have anyway. Yeah,
so I had to go first of all, no one's
gonna work as hard for me as me because only
I'm the only me. Yes, however, uh, they're not doing crap.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
I know, like separating that is a thing. Yeah, and yeah,
just in this business, everyone has their own opinions. It's
like everything is taken personally at a time. You know.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Do you ever read the Four Agreements?
Speaker 2 (45:52):
No?
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Very and uh it's it's it's so easy. It's like
a very very very thin book. You can read it
in an hour. But when you say that, I usually
read it once a year. And one of them is
don't take anything personal in business. It's very very hard
for me to do because I'm so insecure, which creates
wild competitiveness that I take everything personally and want to
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burn everyone down because they're my end, the me. If
we're not the same.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
No one can have it but me, absolutely yes.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
And anybody I've ever competed against, I hate them. And
then I realize, as I get older, maybe I don't
have but I do have that, and I still have
that in me that have to fight sometimes. But the
Four Agreements is tremendous because it is just like the
whole section of it is, don't take anything personal in
business because they're not doing it to be personally ad
and if they are, that's a different situation. But I
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had to learn that. That's tough because I took everything
personal and business because business was so personal to me. Yes,
and it's got to be personal to you because you're right,
so much of what you do is personal, like what
you're writing about, like your product is personal.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Yes, I'm like, don't disrespect my art. This is like
my child, you know, And.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
To them it's not their child. It's business. They can
see it that way, and you know what, that's what
they're supposed to do. They're supposed to see it like business. Yes, yes,
And it's finding that right dynamic.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
And I feel like I've found that, like range is
so my current managers, they're so professional in that way
it's business, but they respect me as a person and
an artist and a creative and that's like, I don't know,
that's just hard to find. But I think also everyone's
it's like a relationship, Like everyone's dynamic is going to
be different.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Cherry Valley Show.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Yes, Yeah, so there's more to come on what that means,
But basically, I just wanted to put together a show
that's the only headline show I've ever done headline, and
I just wanted to sing with my friends and my band.
I just put together an awesome band that I love
and they're some of my closest friends. And I just
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wanted to put out a show in Nashville where my
family could come, my friends could come, to be honest,
and I think I want to do some more of
those because it was just awesome and fun.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
I love Ashley Monroe.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
Yes, she's like my sister.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
Did we talk about Carter when Ashley was here at all?
I think so. Yeah. I've known Ashley for a long time.
And I was telling Ashley because there were there were
a few years we didn't talk and Ashley got sick
for a while, and and we didn't talk because for
any we didn't talk because we weren't talking, but just
grow grow marriage all for her. But what I was
telling her was, I know we haven't talked in a
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long time, but I don't feel like we haven't talked
like That's how much I like value her.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
She's like a spiritual person to me.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
For sure, Lucas Nelson. I met Lucas in California, and no,
I knew of his music, and I will listen to
it a little bit, and then I knew it was
the real, the whole deal, and we were at it.
He plays golf, he's a big golfer.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
I don't think I knew that.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
Yeah, So we were at the Pebble Beach Pro and
both of us were two of the celebrities there by exactly,
we're wildly famous, and Lucas is friends with one of
my friends, and so we kind of were in the
group together. And the first night of the event, they
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everybody that has like a skill or a talent goes
up and it's just entertaining. So, you know, sobody gets
up by a couple of songs and make it's up,
and so Lucas I want to go. I'll go up
and do some songs. And so he goes up for
like threes.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Oh my god, right, it's completely different.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
Oh my god. It was like my wife and I
were like, what just happened here?
Speaker 2 (49:42):
It's pretty crazy to watch.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
And so An he's such a lovely, kind guy. Because
then after that we got to know him more because
that was just he was so good and they weren't
Alanda giants. We get to see great people all the time.
We lived where everybody great comes. And still it was
like when I watched Lucas play, I was there's an
that's an alien. Yeah, that's an So how do you
know Lucas.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
So there's this house in West Nashville. I guess, I
guess I shouldn't say where it is, but the pretty
large area. Yeah, it's pretty large area. It's this old
house that's kind of falling apart, but a lot of
people I know live in it. That's how I met
my boyfriend because he used to live there. Ashley has
a writing spot there, Lucas Uh, that's where his Nashville
spot is, Magmacree, ben Chapman. A lot of hippies called
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the Hippie House, so they all write there. So I
just would go over there all the time, and it's
like feels like the seventies. You're like, there's a back
porch we're all smoking on and hanging out. And I
think that's just the type of people I gravitate towards.
Like I love that you said alien, because I there's
a lot of creative people in this town. But I
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really gravitate towards people who are like it's bleeding out
of them and like they have to do this because
it's in them, not just for any other reason. And
so that's how I met him. We I think, honestly,
I was writing a stairs with Ashley Monroe and Connie
Harrington and Lucas knocked on the door to see if
we had coffee or something, and he was holding a
guitar and just sat down and started writing with us.
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It's the first time I met him. By the end
of the song, we're like, oh, you weren't even in
here before. But it's just that, like the inertia of
creativity is always in that house, which is cool.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
Another person that played I'm talking about the last show, Yeah,
that I think is so special and lover and I
would take a pellet for her.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
Not a bullet, Not a bullet, a pellet, a Pellett paintball.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Is Jillian Jacqueline, Yes, like and Jill. I took Jilly
into a bunch of shows with me, like two tours ago.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
Yeah, because I think I when I was going out
with you, I asked her about it. She's like, he's the.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
Best oh good. Yeah, yeah, not creepy at all.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
He's like, she's like, he's super mean.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
Yeah. Well I just would also get like, not me
at all. I mean I don't get this, but I
that's good. Yeah, people you can ask because this sounds weird. Man. Yeah,
it's like some dudes like, hey, come and yes you know,
yeah I know. Yeah, so you're not creepy. I'm not.
I don't think I'm creepy at Also, thank you for
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validating my thought that I am not great. But yeah,
Jillian is really amazing.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
She's awesome, and she's an unreal songwriter and she's Tofer's
sister in law.
Speaker 1 (52:19):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
So it's just that God to love incest Well.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
They don't do it, yeah, but that it's incestual but
not really, not like Arkansas and not like where I'm from,
where we do it with our family.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
Yeah exactly exactly. That's how you got here.
Speaker 1 (52:35):
Exactly how else would I be here? You know what
school is. I do know you, and I've seen you
play and I've heard your voice. Not interesting voice, but
I've heard your voice. What you speak for, what you
speak at people are going to love you.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
It's just a matter of time, and it's the strategy
of what you're deciding, what your label decides. It's like
people are going to love you. There are certain people
that I meet in this town on What's two stories
and just pops into my head. One Ella was on
the show yesterday. We haven't aired it yet, but she
(53:12):
when that song sharted to blow up, and they weren't
like put her radio. I just started playing it because
I was like, this is a good song and I
love it and.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
It's different exactly, like thank you for giving us something different.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
It's awesome exactly. And I was like, this is fun
and really good because of course she's talking in it.
But then the chorus it's grace. And so I played
the song and it's not like I found the song
it blew up. But I started playing the song a
little bit and I was like, let's get her up here.
And so she came up. And Riley was up with
(53:42):
her yesterday too. But some real she has texture about her.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
Yeah she's a bad ass, yes, and real country girl.
Speaker 1 (53:51):
Right there, and like said stuff, Yeah, she's smart. And
there's a difference in coming into doing a fine interview
and answering questions and saying things then coming in and
she just was like, this is why I am. I'm
just gonna I'm just gonna say stuff. And she wasn't
like worried about it, like it was. That was refreshing
and the first time I'd ever met her.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
She's a refreshing person.
Speaker 1 (54:11):
And when you mentioned her earlier, I was like, me, Pin,
I'm gonna come back to that because she but she
and I'm gonna put you guys in a category here.
I didn't know her. She had the song blow Up
Somebody that I met probably seven years ago, and I've
been a diehard fan of her as a creative and
she's just now starting to pop and she was on
my show today. We recorded with her is Cassie Ashton
(54:34):
Love and seven years ago, I'm.
Speaker 2 (54:38):
Like, thank you for all catching on right, It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
I was so blown away by her then, and I
would have her coming. She'd played with Ryan and she
played shows with me, and I would be amazed that
nobody else was so amazed. She was a huge deal. Yeah,
I would be like, how are people missing this?
Speaker 2 (54:54):
I don't get that.
Speaker 1 (54:55):
And but now she performed today and again she's now
she's got to she's it's hitting for her, and I
just always felt like, I don't know what the wind
needs to be like. But people are going to love
her because she's she's definitely different.
Speaker 2 (55:09):
Yes, she is herself, yes, And.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
That's that's the that's the vibe that I get from you,
not just today but in general. Because we've been able
to spend a little bit of time together, people are
going to love you. And I hope it's in eight months,
twelve months. I hope it's on that level. You're already
growing your base. And if it's not eight months or
twelve months, it's going to be. At some point people
are going to love you. There's only a few people
that I feel that way about. I'm excited for you.
(55:34):
It's crazy. It's super cool. And when people meet you
either are like, oh, like Carter, Wow, she's really white.
Then all of a sudden you slice them and dice
them and then you fire them and then they're like,
I don't work for you, Like you're fired anyway. You
know she's hardcore.
Speaker 2 (55:47):
Because that McDonald's you're fired.
Speaker 1 (55:49):
Bitch, How did you encode for me?
Speaker 2 (55:51):
We met at a wedding. Actually this there's a videographer
company called running bear and one of the it's a
brother sister duo and the girl's name is Alexa, and
she got married and we were sat next to each
other at a table and I was like stoned and
didn't know anyone feeling weird, and he was just I mean,
(56:13):
you know, Tofer, he talked to me right off the bat,
and I mean, I feel like we were like brother
sister in a past life or something, because he just
feels like family. And ever since then we've just been
writing together. I think that was three years ago, and
I don't know. It is stuff like that where I
look back and I'm like, I thought I had it
figured out writing wise before I met Tofer, and not
(56:35):
that like he's made me the writer I am. But
all the things that happen past the point where you
thought you were ready is how you actually get ready
for a moment, I think. And so I'm like, it
can take another year, that's fine with me, but I'm
I'm like getting ready for the moment.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
You know it in this What's funny is in five
years you're gonna look back and go And I thought,
I know what I was talking about, fib, But but you
should always be like that. Yeah, I mean it's.
Speaker 2 (57:03):
I saw some quote. I don't I'm not going to
say the quote right, but it was like, your art
isn't real enough if you're not embarrassed by it a
year later.
Speaker 1 (57:11):
That's exactly. I hate watching listening to anything I've ever done.
I won't be watching because I'm no. It makes me
cringe if I watch, like even something old of me
on TV from a year two years ago, I know,
but then I can then I appreciate that because that
means that I feel like I must have grown beyond
what that is.
Speaker 2 (57:31):
Yeah, because I want to be the person that's like
I killed that every time. I mean sometimes you're like
I always.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
Want to kill it right then, but like a year later,
I should be like, you know what, I'm better than
that now. I should be that way.
Speaker 2 (57:45):
That's my goal always. I'm trying to only be competitive
with myself.
Speaker 1 (57:48):
Nowadays, Yeah, I wish that were my goal. I still
want to kill everybody. There's some people I'm just like
I got I'm not going to mention any names here.
I would tell you off off, Mike, but I got
a certain artist called the request line this morning to
fight me, to.
Speaker 2 (58:03):
Fight you, to be like he's pissed.
Speaker 1 (58:06):
No, no, to he was pissed at something. I like
that accurate. Yeah, I mean fight, he didn't want to.
He probably would have come to punch me in the
it's well known. Yeah, I don't have a great relationship
with them, and we've him and we've publicly not had
a great relationship. We've gone at huh. I bet you
(58:26):
don't give me give me one letter in the first name.
Don't even said don't do first letter yank. Oh no, no, no, we.
Speaker 2 (58:35):
Had a totally different that's.
Speaker 1 (58:38):
A funny story, and that's a great that's an awesome story. No, no,
this person is like current current ish digging. I'll tell
you rafter and you might even be friends with them,
and that's okay. Yeah, probably not, Mike, you think. I
don't think so. I don't think she is either. She's
too cool. But I this person had done some things
(59:01):
that I did not feel were I like how some
things were handled professionally, but they were personally professional, meaning
that he dick me over in a way. That and
then no apology and then just like we're gonna a
total blowoff, like it was no respect. I shouldn't say
(59:21):
it was a very and I might have been on
stage made some jokes that were quite funny, and then
they may have come back, and they might have come
back at me on social media, and I might So
it's we've gone back and forth. And I said yesterday
on the show, and we can bleep this part, Mike,
(59:42):
I'm gonna say of our context. Yeah, and we'll end
with this because I could do this for two hours,
so you just like talk about stuff. I also have
people here, and I've been here now long. I've been
here longer than you. I'm older than you. But I
had a very similar experience in getting here and being
a bit different and going through the process of people
not understanding me at all. Yes, and I'm like, I'm
(01:00:06):
pretty nice and like I'm I'm kind of.
Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Cool and I'm not going to make you understand me.
Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Yeah, it's just right. And so I was like, I'm
not I'm just decided I'm not gonna be friends with
any artists because I want to always be able to
say my opinion. Like that was my point. Don't want
to be friends with no one. I don't trust them anyway.
No artists am I going to be friends with. However,
there were a few that I'm like throwing my best
friends because they wore me down and I had to
start to realize, you know what, I can't think everybody's
a douchebag.
Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Yeah, but it's good to be skeptical.
Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
I'm totally a skeptical yeah, all the time. But there's
a few that have broken through where I'm like, they're
really great people. So I would like to encourage you
have a few.
Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
It's not like you have a few.
Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
In the industry's weird though, because you never quite know
what's up with them. Like what I just felt like
somebody was using me for something.
Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
They are right until you get to that point where
they are like we're just humans.
Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
Right, or they're they have I'd be very general, they
have more than I do in this area, so they
don't need me Like that was a big deal.
Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Yeah, that's probably nice.
Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Like one of my dearest friends not a bullet take
a really strong pellet for is Brett Eldridge, and he's
super anxiety written like I am, we're totally weirdos we
get scared of him. Tickets sque so that we're like,
are there be going to sell? Does anybody like, well,
they like us tomorrow, but I wouldn't, you know, But
like I trust that guy. Now, I got a couple
(01:01:25):
of those. So I hope you have a couple of those,
because you need a couple of those.
Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
I do. I've lost a few, but you get one.
Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
And my point with Brett was he didn't need me.
He had so many more he doesn't need. He needs
nothing from me except friendship, and.
Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
That's what it should be about.
Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Yeah, it's not though it's not. I don't even try
to reader, Mike, and they're sitting there. Okay, So here's
what I want to say. Instagram at Carter Faith. TikTok
at Carter Faith. All Right, the aftermath it's on ten twelve,
So one two Jennifer March April, May, jun July, Augustber October. So, Mike,
when this comes out, it won't be October twelve yet,
(01:01:59):
is it? No? It okay, week before so in like
a week. Yes, we'll try to know the aftermath. I've
not heard it aftermath, so that will be out. You're
out doing shows, you do some Carly stuff, some Midland stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
You're doing some loot grime stuff this fall that'll be announced,
and just festivals, random stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Do you have merch.
Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
I'm making merch because I love merch.
Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Well, I was going to say, too, that's a great
way to support an artist that you like if they're
not headlining shows is to buy their merch.
Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Yes, please buy my merch. I'm going to bring it.
Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
When she makes it. Please buy her merch.
Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
It'll be cute, I promise.
Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Well, I don't want it. Then I needed like no,
not no, not ugly, no like next, no, no like
normal ugly. I was like, I don't want it. Cute.
She's like that is ed ugly sre. Yeah, definitely, we'll
make it match your face ugly it is. I. I
really enjoy you too, Yeah, you really enjoy your two
(01:02:59):
That's yeah. It was really cool. And I'm rooting for you.
And whenever you're ready, ready, like and it's that you're
you guys are going because you've been on the show,
but but that doesn't count whatever. It's like real time
and you're like, we're taking this to whatever You're up
immediately perfect, So you will be there.
Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
I will.
Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
I will make sure of it, or I will cancel
you from this town because I have that power. No,
if I don't this time, be half dead all right
Carter Faith and go at Carter Faith. Good to see Carter,
Thanks for coming by, Thanks for listening to a Bobby
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Bobby Bones
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