In this episode of In The Weeds, Bobby gets into everything from getting humbled by Pat Monahan of Train to the ridiculous amount of credit card points he’s been sitting on. He talks about the strange requests he gets to connect friends with celebrities, why he thinks everyone in radio should be investing in themselves, and the lengths competitors have gone to figure out how to beat his show. Bobby also shares his thoughts on the current podcast landscape, the hosts he actually enjoys listening to, and one interview habit that drives him crazy. Plus, he opens up about being jealous of his daughter’s nursery, why having her own room hits something deeper from his childhood, and what he really means when he tells the Weedeaters to “stay weedy.”
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
I got humbled recently by a celebrity and they weren't
doing it to be mean or problematic, and I actually
really liked the celebrity.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I didn't know them.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
It was Pat Monahan from Train and he came in
to do an episode of the Bobbycast and we're sitting
there and I did not think that he would remember me,
because I'd met him once at a golf thing and
he says down and I was just going to bring
it up. But again I had no expectation of him
meeting me because I was just a random dude. But
(00:36):
he says, hey, we've met before. Before we start recording,
and you see us talk about it in the video.
But I said yeah, And he said yeah, you were
covering the Pebble Beach pro Am and I said no,
because it's a celebrity tournament, the Pebble Beach Proram. I
said no, I was playing it, and so I don't.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Need to be humbled.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I lived in this odd ground of like hating everything
I do and being extremely confident in what I'm doing,
and it's a weird place to be. But the humbling
came from Pat Monaghan did not think I was a
celebrity and that I would be playing in the celebrity
program at Pebble Beach, that I would be covering it,
and there's no shame in covering it.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
But I did meet him at that event.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
He remembered and that's pretty cool, so I thought i'd
start with the Humbling story there. He did say to
the people, confuse him for Jason Bateman, and at the time,
I thought, that's kind of weird because you don't look
like Jason Bamon. And then I saw a picture of
him on the Train Instagram account and he was in
San Francisco riding a trolley and when I was flipping through,
I thought it was Jason Bateman, So I see it now. Hey,
(01:44):
how about that for Humble Humble you if you haven't
seen that episode, though, it's great, go watch the train episode.
I did find out recently that so we all have
our phones and we all can pay for stuff with
the double click on our phones here in which I
do a lot of Uber Eats and door Dash. That's
probably what I waste the most money on. And it's
(02:04):
become so easy to buy things even with Amazon right
It's you don't even have to like double click anything.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
On Amazon.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
You just hit it and it's there. It's one push.
I have so many credit card points, and this is
not a flex. I have always been scared of using
my credit card points because I have felt that at
some point I will need to use those credit card points,
like I'll need them. So I've always been not going
to use them, not going to use them in case
the day comes or I have to have them. I
have acquired, as I look this morning, over six million
(02:34):
credit card points.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I've never used them. I've had this same.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Credit card for probably close to a decade. Six million
credit card points is around sixty thousand dollars. That is
an insane amount of money to have in credit card points.
Where I start to worry is I now can double
click and pay with credit card points. It now pops
up as an option that if I want to pay
(02:59):
for something, all I have to do is hit one down,
double click, and it'll start subtracting credit card points. I've
not started doing that yet for the same exact reason.
Could I be paying for all my door Dash and
all my Uber eats with credit card points?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yes? Will I know?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Well, I probably passed my credit card points down to
my daughter yes, that I think is what will happen
because I'm so scared. Like when I started to have
any sort of success financially, my business manager, which I
have now, which I didn't even know what that was.
She was the one who made me stop paying bills
a month in advance, like overpaying bills because I was
(03:36):
always fearful of I won't have enough money. So if
I overpay a month ahead of time, I'm covered for
at least a month.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
It give me a buffer. And I think this credit
card point thing.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Is the last it's the last thread of that because
I've had to leave it in other capacities like I
don't pay my light bill early, and I actually have
a business manager, which is if you had to ask
me ten years ago I want, I wouldn't known what
that was. And two I would have thought I'm never
going to stop doing this. But then I started getting
(04:06):
checks back from the companies and that got to be
a bit confusing. But I now can pay with credit
card points, and my goal is never to use them.
Something that people reach out to me for some people
that I know, some people that I don't, is to
let them meet really famous people. Sometimes people will reach
out and go, Hey, any chance I can meet George Strait?
(04:28):
Or some people will say, I'm having a birthday party.
I'm only an hour from San Antonio. Any chance Georgetrait
can come to my birthday party? I don't know George Strait.
I've met George Strait twice, but I don't know George Strait.
Or hey, I know you know Garth Brooks. Any chance
he could call my kid it's a birthday. I've never
done that. I don't think I'll ever do that, but
I get those requests a lot, a lot from people
(04:51):
that I don't know, some from people that I do know. Now,
if it does happen to work out, and somebody is
in a place where somebody is that they really think
is cool, I'll make that happen. I've made that happen before.
But this is universally me saying to everybody who messages me.
Mostly I'm talking to my friends here, not even talking
(05:11):
to people that are in my DMS.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Although I am.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I cannot get you a meet and greet with Kenny Rodgers.
Rest in peace, Kenny Rodgers. But even if he was alive,
I can set you up with Dolly. I can't have
you meet them. That's all my life would be with
me setting you up to meet celebrities. So no, Noella,
Laney meet and greets.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I did.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I happen to plan the Opry one night and have
a friend that is the head coach of the Purdue
football team and his daughter is a massive Landy Wilson fan.
This is one of the instances where it just happened
to work out and he's like, hey, we're coming to town.
I'm like, I'm playing the Opry and he said, we're
going to the Opry because it's my daughter's birthday and
(05:55):
she's a massive Laney Wilson fan.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I said, I know, Lanny Wilson, really well, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
And so, I mean, that's one of the possibly two
or three times that I've ever had that fall into place.
By the way, Landy Wilson a plus person. She was like, yeah,
of course. We went over to her room and backstage
at the Grand Ole Opry, you leave your doors open
unless you're changing or you're very specifically rehearsing something and
(06:24):
you don't want someone from the outside interfere.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
And Landy's door was open. She was like, come on over.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
So it took her over and she's been like ten
minutes with her and that family. So man, one or
two times ever has that happened. I had someone really
close to me recently asked and I had to say no,
and it was somebody I kind of know. But I
can't get anybody to come to your birthday party. There's
actually a site you can go to if you google it,
(06:51):
where you can hire celebrities to come to your parties,
or you can hire them to speak at your events.
I think on the low end, it's going to cost
you around if you want to get Vanilla ice fifteen
to twenty grand if I'm guessing, and that's non performing.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Now this is just me speculating here.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Once we got Tone Loake for about seven thousand dollars
and he played a song and a half if I'm
remembering remembering correctly, and then he passed out on stage
and everybody freaked out because we were having like a concert.
So we paid it for Tone Loake to come. And
Tone Lok has songs if you remember, like Funky Cole
Medina or she liked to do the Wow thang. So
(07:31):
we were having this old school nineties type concert and
Young MC we paid him to come. I know Tone
Loak was playing and everybody freaked out because he passed
out while on stage, and we were just happy that
he made it because we didn't know what was going on.
Then we found out later it had happened to him before.
(07:53):
I shouldn't say he had done that before, but that
it had happened to him prior. And I don't know
if maybe hiss help was bad or maybe if that
was his thing, he would go and he would perform
and be like, oh, I'm coming to you.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
A Sanford and Son reference there.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
But you can get famous people to come to your house,
but it isn't going to cost you a bunch of money.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
But I cannot set you up with them. A lot
a bunch of.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
People hitting me up about Amy, and the last episode
was if you're rude to Amy, FU Now I don't curse,
So for a lot of people, it was weird that
we put the F word up.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
In the thumbnail. We bleeped it out, but I didn't
say it.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Two episodes ago, I was talking about an old boss
that I had that told me.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I should blanking fire you.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
The last episode was I was talking about a celebrity
that was mean to Amy, so we don't book them
on our show. And the word was really never even used.
We just thought that'd be enticing as a thumbnail, and
so I blame that one on Brandon. So if we
have two f words in a row, we're looking to
find a third win this episode. So if we can
find a way to make this third thumbnail with an if,
(09:03):
we're going to do that.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
But people were hitting me up about.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Amy and she had been on the show for twenty years,
and on the show we had just an acknowledgment, a
minor celebration. I say, this is crazy twenty years. The
clip got run a bunch of times and by a
bunch of different affiliates, well as with anything else that
I do. Some people got mad that we didn't celebrate
Eddie's ten year or Lunchbox is twenty year, and so
(09:27):
I here's the reason why we didn't do Eddie or
Lunchbox or whomever else.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
They didn't tell me. Amy had to tell me.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Amy found an email from exactly twenty years ago, and
she said, oh my goodness, I found this email. It
looks like, according to this email, the day I started
was this day. So had Amy not showed me that email.
I wouldn't have even known that it was twenty years
for her to be on the show. Now you can
say that's all on me. I don't keep track of
how long that we've been here doing things or how
(09:57):
long we've all been together, and we have been together
a long time. But for those of you that are
upset that I didn't do an Eddie celebration or a
lunchbox celebration, get off these nuts because I didn't know.
I didn't even know Amy's Amy told me. But that
is crazy that it's been twenty years. Another thing that's
been happening a little bit from this show is that
(10:18):
I have low key inadvertently become a content influencer because
usually during a show like this, something will come up
with me and the show, and it's extremely in the
weeds about my process for doing something. And at times
I've talked about at the beginning of content, you know
you want to do this, or talking about podcasts, and
(10:40):
so I've had different media, not publications, but also like
big social media accounts reach out and they want to
interview me about this stuff, which I don't really want
to do that as much.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I'm not too good for it. But I'm not.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
A content influencer, meaning I don't think I'm good enough
at that to actually always share that with you. But
it's been pretty crazy to see some of the stuff
where I'm talking about how I do it pop off.
Today's installment is this. There's a lot of people right
now in radio that are wondering what do I do
next in my career? And I don't think it has
(11:19):
to be a next I think it absolutely should be
alongside what you're doing now. And everybody has a podcast.
Every single person has a podcast. All your grandma has
a podcast. It's called Nana in Friends. If you haven't subscribed,
go subscribe and like. But it's so hard to cut
through now in the podcast world because every single person
(11:43):
has one. However, this is what I would tell every
single person that is doing a radio show that doesn't
have a podcast. Start a podcast and have an extreme
niche go and dial into something so specific. You may
think that doing a podcast on just season three of
The Simpsons is too niche enough. You may think that
(12:05):
doing a podcast on only red guitars famous red guitars
is way too niche. At this point, it's really the
only thing that is going to cut through if you're
not a big celebrity. So that's what I recommend anybody
who's in the business that I'm in that goes, hey,
I don't know, I need to do a podcast. What
(12:26):
can I do? Don't do a podcast where we just
interview people. Everybody does that. He I do it, And
I'm already starting to get fatigued of not doing interviews
because I am just generally and genuinely a curious person.
But the whole world of podcasts is now just people
interviewing people, and it's so hard to even get someone
(12:47):
that's great that's not on nine other shows at the
same time. So with that being said, I think where
the pendulum swings again, it's people that can get in
front of a camera or a microphone like this by
themselves and do compelling content and talk about compelling things,
and even bring people in, but to walk alongside them
more so.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Than just interview them. Now, I'm gonna be hypocritical.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I'm gonna keep doing my interview podcast for a while,
But what I would say is do an extremely niche
podcast and be able to do it by yourself, bring
people in, even bring people on sometimes to do interviews
about the extremely niche thing. But that's how you build
a show today, because if you just keep doing what
(13:28):
everybody else is doing, you're gonna get lost to the
same place everyone else is lost.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
And that's my content influencer moment there.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Hank Ty, the Bobby Cast will be right back and
we're back on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
As I was looking at on this YouTube page, which
is Bobby Bonees channel, which we did hit one hundred thousand.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
We got our.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Whatever the tile is, which is plaque thank you, which
is very exciting for me because when Brandon and I
were starting, we had like thirteen thousand followers from the
end of January, and our goal by the end of
this year was to hit one hundred thousand because this
is the hardest platform to get people to subscribe. So
if you subscribed on YouTube and you're watching, thank you
(14:23):
so much. So our goal by the end of the
year was to get a hundred thousand. We hit it
a lot quicker than I think we thought we were
going to hit it, and so now we're at like
two hundred and ten thousand or so. So first of all,
thank you all for subscribing. Our next goal is to
get up to half a million, and I think we
have a chance to do that in the next six
(14:46):
months or so. But some of these videos get a
bunch of views, and they get a bunch of comments,
but they don't get a lot of likes. And that
looks weird because I'll watch. We have one video I
think it was the one two ago, and it was
when my boss said he I should f and fire you.
And it has two hundred thousand views, and then it
(15:08):
has four likes. I need you to like the videos
because the comments are awesome. I get a lot of
the material here from the comments, like the things that
I talk about. I used to just read the comment
and then I would just talk after, but I don't
want this to seem like a mailbag type situation, so
I have things that I want to talk about mostly
from the comments. Thank you for the comments. Please keep commenting.
Thank you for watching and subscribing. It just looks funny.
(15:31):
It looks like I'm not liked. It looks like people
want to watch someone they hate. So if you don't mind,
and you're watching, please hit the like button.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I was talking to a friend of mine who just
got a morning show, and I think I'll do a
show called Hosts with her pretty soon. And she just
got a morning show and she had to follow a
show that had been on in that.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
City for a long time. That she's a really good talent,
but it.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Is difficult to have to follow like the person, the
person that has been the person for maybe thirty years.
And I definitely haven't been helping her with her content.
I think you either have that rudder or you don't.
I don't only think consultants can come in, especially for
great talent. If you're a great talent, you don't need
(16:16):
a consultant to tell you what content to do. You
can have someone come in and kind of reguide you
into directions on doing more and less up. I believe
in that, but I think you either have the instinct
or you don't. And I think she has the instinct.
But she had to follow the guy, and so early
on I was just talking with her about it, what
it's going to be like, because it ain't gonna be
(16:37):
fun at first, because everybody is used to hearing the
guy for thirty years. Heck, when I moved to Nashville,
I remember getting here and being a bit oblivious to
what had happened, especially on the local Nashville station, because
there was a guy named Jerry House and he was
(16:59):
the legendary morning guy in Nashville for probably twenty five.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Years or so.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
And I came in and everyone was You're never gonna
be Jerry House. You're the guy that replaced Jerry House.
Like Jerry House is the man, You'll never be the man.
The craziest part about that was I wasn't the guy
that replaced Jerry House. They had another show in between.
I didn't know this either, but they brought on a
show that replaced the guy. That show did not succeed.
(17:26):
Then they brought me on but to be a national show.
But I guess nobody remembered that second show. But I
didn't replace Jerry House.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yet. Here I was.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Still constantly being told, yeah, I'm a big Jerry House guy.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I don't really like what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
And so I was just walking through it with her
to expect these type of things because I lived it.
I got in trouble once way early on, and I
wrote this in my first book, because the studio that
we had moved into when we moved to Nashville, it
was the Jerry House studio. I'd never even met Jerry House,
and I didn't follow Jerry House. I respected the fact
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that he was a legend here in Nashville, but I
didn't have a relationship with him in any way. And
so every day I would go into that studio and
I would be so annoyed that I had to work
out of a studio named for someone else. It drove
me a bit, and I made the deal with myself
that the first time that we go number one in Nashville,
(18:28):
I'm going to take the sign down. I'm not going
to say anything about it. I'm not going to say
anything about it existing up there and it bothering me.
But it did bother me because I felt like I
was working in someone else's studio. And the first time
we had number one in the evening, I drove back
to the studio and I took a screwdriver and I
took the plaque off the wall, pulled it down, didn't
(18:51):
say anything about it. I didn't like ceremonial throwing the
trash or anything, because I have a lot of respect
for someone that can sustain a career in a media
business for that long. But I don't want to work
out of somebody else's studio, so I took it down.
And at the time, I was so unwelcomed by the
Nashville Machine because I was doing things differently that man.
(19:15):
There were so many negative articles about how I didn't
respect Jerry House, how I took his sign down because
I didn't think it deserved to be up on the wall,
And in reality, I just for me. It was a
goal I had to accomplish something so I could pull
it down. But I know what it's like to work
under that, and it is extremely frustrating. And there's a saying,
(19:35):
you never want to be the guy that replaces the guy.
You want to be the guy that replaces the guy
that replaces the guy. And even I did that and
it sucked. So she's dealing with this or I was
at least trying to get it ready for it, and
she's doing a great job now and I'm so happy
for her. But I was telling the story like I've
hired people before to build shows to beat me, meaning
(20:01):
I've taken my own money, found people that I wholly respect,
and I've paid them to listen to my show and
podcasts for multiple weeks at a time and write a
report on how if they were going to put a
show against me in some capacity, how they would beat
(20:21):
me find my weaknesses. So I'm paying my own money
to have somebody listen to me to tell me how
to beat me so I can make sure that I've
got those holes covered. And so I did this, and
I wasn't really doing it to tell anyone. I just
wanted to know where my vulnerabilities were. This is years ago,
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and I remember getting the reports and they were great,
and they both had different opinions. They also, the two
people I hire did not know that the other one
was doing one, so they weren't working with each other,
and so they listened things that they thought maybe I
didn't do enough or didn't do well enough. And some
of the things from each of the reports were the same,
and that's when I thought, Okay, these are definitely things
(21:03):
that I need to work on. And they were both good,
but one of them was so good and thorough that
I sent it into the company and I said, hey,
I hired these people, this one person specifically here to
go through and beat my show. And they said you
hired with your own money? Said yeah, yeah, I with
(21:24):
my own money because I want to always be prepared.
I don't want to depend on anybody else to tell
me where my weaknesses are. First of all, I kind
of know my weaknesses, but maybe one of my weaknesses
is that I don't know my weaknesses. So I sent
it in and they weren't happy that I did that.
They weren't happy that I paid for my own research.
Later on, it made a lot of sense. But so
the person who I thought did such a great job,
(21:46):
I recommended them to my company to do this for
other shows, to consult other shows, to be the rudder
to go, hey, maybe do a little less of this,
do a little more of this.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
There's a big hole here.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
And it all comes back around because now that person
that I hired to do that to my show is
now consulting that host that I'm talking to and was
helping her who's replacing the guy. And they didn't know that,
and I didn't know that. And I'm talking to that
morning show host who's replacing the guy after thirty years,
and I'm just checking in, how's your mental health?
Speaker 2 (22:23):
And she says it's great.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
And I have this consultant and she's so and so,
and I'm like, you will never believe this story. I
think so much of her that I paid my own
money to have her breakdown my show and tell me
where I suck. So everything came all the way back around,
and that's pretty cool. And it's also like I really
believe and investing in yourself at whatever level you can.
(22:47):
It might just be five bucks, it might be five
hundred bucks, it might be time like health right, And
that's an example of me doing that there where I
spent the money. It's really cool to see those those
things all.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Come together there. I guess I'll do another.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
I don't mean to do a lot of influencer clips
here because I'm not Bobby the media influencer, but I
was watching back an interview that I did.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
The one thing that I hate.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
That people do when they're interviewing people is when they
go uh huh yeah, uh huh yeah as the person
is talking. If I ask someone a question and they're
answering the question, like the human thing to do is
to acknowledge they're talking and go yep uh huh, yep
uh huh. However, the podcast host or radio host thing
(23:39):
not to do is go yep uh huh yeah uh huh.
So it's against everything that is naturally inside of you
as a human being. Because if we're sitting at a
restaurant and we're having lunch and you're telling me a
great story, I'm going wow, yep, uh huh yep. However,
if microphones are on and people have to listen to us,
(24:00):
do that what they don't want to hear somebody going yeah,
uh huh yeah uh huh.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
So I've caught me doing it. I hate me doing it.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
It drives me crazy when I do it. So as
a suggestion to hold me accountable if you're watching interviews
that I do, and as a suggestion to people out
there that are doing interviews, so I can hold you accountable.
When you ask someone a question and they're answering, don't
yeah uh huh at all. It's so unnatural to just
be quiet during that. But it's unnatural to humans, not
(24:31):
to the person listening. Now, if you want to react
like oh or wow, you can do that all day
long because that adds to what the person is listening to.
But I say this because I judge me for doing
it too. So reaction good. Uh huh yeah, uh huh bad?
Speaker 2 (24:51):
How'd you clip that?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I probably get some shares on that one, but I
do feel like podcast interviews it's just too many. I
do get people asking me who's good now, which is weird,
and it's such a subjective thing. I'm gonna list a
few personalities that I think are fantastic for different reasons.
(25:12):
My favorite podcast radio personality in the whole world right
now is Charlemagne the God. He's so honest, extremely authentic,
and you don't know what he's gonna say, but I'm
gonna go and say it again. He's very honest with
what he believes all the time. He's also a dear
friend of mine. But I think part of the reason
he's a dear friend of mine is because I respect
(25:33):
what and how he does it so much. He's also
the person that I will call and go, hey, what
do you think about this?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Am I in the wrong?
Speaker 1 (25:40):
And he's also the person that will say, yes, you're
on the wrong to me if I'm in the wrong.
But I don't think I could have the respect or
the friendship if I didn't think that he was so
good at what he did. So I'm putting Charlemagne the
God on the list. My favorite straight ahead podcast and
this is two different hosts, but they're so good individually
and they're so good together. One guy's name is Brandon Walker.
(26:04):
I hated him when I started to see his content
with the first time that I watched him talk about
college football. I hated his guts because he hated Arkansas
and he would talk so bad about Arkansas.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
And then I realized what he was doing.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
He was doing it so good it made me hate him.
And he's also very funny, and so I'm going to
put on my list right now, I'll just call it
the mount rushmore of my favorite personalities. Now, I'm going
to put Brandon Walker up there. So funny, so knowledgeable,
also like something's wrong with him and if you can
(26:38):
be smart and have something wrong with you and use
that something wrong with you to your advantage, like it's
he's awesome. The other one is Mark Titus. Now, Titus
played basketball at Ohio State. He did his own stuff
for a long time, and he's a big college basketball guy,
where Brandon Walker's a big college football guy. So by himself,
Titus is a giant. And they're both literally like six
(26:59):
six two.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
So they are.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
But they do a show together called Mostly Sports. It
is my favorite podcast, but I would put them individually
up on my right now. As I'm thinking about this,
mount rushmore personalities I enjoy. And if I'm also going
to pick a radio person, I'm going to pick a
guy named Austin Huff in Chicago. But when I say
(27:20):
radio person, like, you have to have multiple facets about you.
And so he does mornings in Chicago on the country
station there, and I think he's really good at that.
He also does a sports show on the weekend on
maybe for Westwood One. It's a national platform, and he's
also really.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Good at that.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
So he's someone who definitely is multifaceted, is good in
a lot of ways, and he's also funny on social media.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
So right now, those are the Forum putting up there. No,
we don't have four heads.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Maybe in this clip will do the four heads, but
i'll put those those up up now. I appreciate you
guys watching the show. So I think the one personal
thing that I'll share before I go is that my
daughter is now five months old, and I was taking
her out of the crib up in her room. I
was walking around and I was just kind of looking
(28:14):
around her room, and my wife has done a great
job with decorating her room because it's Matilda.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Now Matilda has the pig Madeline.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
My wife has decorated her room and a lot of
these really cool Madeline prints, and my wife has such
a great eye for aesthetic. And I'm taking my daughter
out and I'm looking around and I'm like, this is
a really cool room. And I was so hesitant to
call it a nursery. I don't know why, but I
was like, her nursery is really cool. And my wife
did a great job. But I remember thinking, I'm a
(28:49):
little bit jealous that my daughter has a room, and
like it was the first time because my therapist had said,
some of the stuff that you struggle with is going
to back up through your daughter now that you have
a child. This is the first time that happened. I
remember looking around and going, you have a room, and
(29:10):
being really proud that I could provide that, but a
little bit jealous that I never had a bedroom growing up,
and never had I'll say, the security of walls, gut
stop on the couch in my whole life, I never
had a bedroom. And it was the first time. And listen,
this wasn't like a lingering thing where I'm mad at
my daughter. But it was the first time where what
(29:30):
my therapist had been telling me was you're gonna have
these emotions come up that you're gonna have to redeal
with and kind of finalize within yourself because of your daughter.
And as I was walking her out of her room
and I'm looking at this really great nursery that my
wife has put together wonderfully, and it's so warm and
safe feeling. For just a fraction of a second, I thought, God, dang,
(29:54):
I wish I'd had a room growing up, but this
is free, this is awesome. And then it went away,
and I was very happy that I can provide that.
But that's the first time that's happened. And then I
had the awareness to go, that's the first time that's happened.
We're now all these issues that I think I've somewhat
worked through because I can at least acknowledge they exist,
and I think that's the first step of working through things.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Is going. Aha, there it is, but I don't know
if I fully work through it or not. Now.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
So I'm on the train, we're on the tracks, we're
rolling through it. I can't wait to see what other
trauma gets brought up and I gotta work through that.
I probably have like pushed to the side, or maybe
I've written in a book and then never looked back.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
But that's it. I'll end with that. Put your comments
down there if you don't mind give it a like.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
That helps so much. I wouldn't fel like such a loser.
I do like calling you guys weed eaters. I think
that's funny. It kind of accidentally came out and I
was like, Oh, you weed eaters out there, and then
I thought, oh, I used to do maintenance on a
golf course. Boy do I have a relationship with weed eaters.
So all the weed eaters out there watching this, I
(31:05):
appreciate it. Down in the comments, write me a stay weedy,
ask me a question if you want to ask it.
I've been trying to figure out what stay weedy means.
I think it just means, like, be super aware, like
stay down on the weeds. Don't believe everything you see
on the internet. Don't even believe everything that people say.
One of the most frustrating things about living in Nashville
and living in country music is seeing people be bad actors.
(31:30):
And there are some of the greatest people in this
town in country music, and they are who they say
they are. So I want to say that, first of all,
there are people in country music that are exactly what
they represent outwardly, and that's so cool to see. There
are some people that have a presentation of great Christian
(31:56):
helpful and they are exactly the opposite. And I think that,
to me is one of the most frustrating parts about
being here is seeing people fall for that, because there
are those here. There's a lot of those. There's more
of those than not. There's one in particular that is
the Facus, and it is all their brand. Their whole
brand is I Love Jesus, and they could not love
(32:17):
Jesus any less. They're known for when new female artists
come to town, like young ones, not illegal young, but
like nineteen twenty twenty one. Just don't believe everything you
see her here. Don't even believe it. For me, we've
done the bit where I'll write something to put it
(32:38):
on the internet. You can just say I know you
could do it. That means you're just you're just being aware.
So stay weedy, stay in the weeds. Pay attention. There's
lies everywhere. Heck, fact check me like crazy I want
you to do that.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
But that's it.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Thanks for watching this episode and we will see you
guys next time, probably in a few days.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Here.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Thank you for following, thank you for commenting, thank you
for being a weed eater, and stay weedy everybody.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Bye bye, hang ty the Bobby Cast. We'll be right back,
and we're back on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
All right. I want to share with you now a
clip from Movie Mike's Movie Podcast. He talked to director
Lee Kirk, who just put out a green Day comedy movie.
It's in theaters called Nimrods, and he talked about how
Lee met the lead singer of Green Day, what it
was like working with them, and Lee's wife is Jenni Fisher,
who played Pam in the Office.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
And if you like this, go hit subscribe. You gotta
go get it. Movie Mike's Movie Podcast. All right, here
you go.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
So, how did you meet Billy Joel Armstrong?
Speaker 5 (33:52):
So I made a film with him in twenty sixteen
called Ordinary World, and I had written the film. It
was about a dad whose family forgets his fortieth birthday.
Speaker 6 (34:01):
He's like an ex rocker guy, and I.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
Was confused about which actor I could get for this role.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
Never thought I'd get a musician.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
And the script was sent to his agent for an actor,
and she read it and she said, hey, I wrapped
Billy Jo Armstrong and he's actually been asking about maybe
doing a little acting. What do you want to meet
with him? And I was like, absolutely, that's so outside
the box. I hadn't even thought about that. And then
he read it and he was into it, and so
we ended up working together on it for almost a year.
(34:32):
We would rehearse together, we'd kind of work on the character,
make it feel very comfortable for him, and they ended
up writing music for it, and one of the songs
he wrote was Ordinary World. Originally the movie is called Geezer,
but when he wrote ordinary World, I was like, well,
we have to have that in the movie, and then
I'm going to change the title to ordinary World.
Speaker 6 (34:48):
And so then he put up that song on Revolution Radio.
But anyway, we stayed in touch.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
We stayed in touch, and when it became time, you know,
a few years ago, he decided he wanted to do
a green name movie and he reached.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
Out, and of course I was. I was so psyched
to get involved.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
So how did that start from the beginning?
Speaker 7 (35:03):
Because I think a lot of people are gonna think,
why is it not a traditional bio pick, like it's
it's their story, but done through different characters.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
So how did that come about?
Speaker 5 (35:11):
So Originally, the idea that Billy Joe reached out to
to me about was a New Year's Eve movie a band,
a movie about a bunch of kids going to see
Green Day on New Year's Eve.
Speaker 6 (35:21):
That was all he had.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
So we started talking about, well, what could the story
be and who could these kids be? And we came
up with this idea of these kids who were driving
across the country, who are in a punk band themselves,
and they're driving across to see their heroes, and you know,
for various reasons. I won't give away why they're driving
across the country, but all is not as it seems,
I'll say that, but then you know then, so then
(35:43):
I had to write the movie, and I realized, Okay,
I need a bunch of fun, crazy stuff to happen
to these kids.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
Now.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
I could either invent that stuff, or I can just
go to the stores.
Speaker 6 (35:53):
Billy Joe, Mike, and Trey, and I can ask them, guys,
tell me some crazy stories of your days on the road.
So they did.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
And then I took those stories and I sort of
reformatted them, twisted them around whatever I needed to do
to kind of fit them into my story. And so
as I was doing that, I realized, well, I can
do that with all sorts of green Day stuff. I
can do it with just like little details like like
in the movie the kids drive around in an ice
cream truck, green Day famously drove around an old bookmobile,
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and so that was kind of my way of paying
paying homage to that. But also some personal things about
the characters too that I sort of used from Mike
and Billy, Joe and Trey and and put those in
the film. And so it became this way of telling
their story that is not, you know, a straight bio pick.
I mean, these characters aren't supposed to be Billy, Joe, Mike,
and Trey. But Trey recently, I just saw him and
(36:41):
he said he called it historical fiction, which I thought
was actually a good way to talk about it. You know.
Speaker 7 (36:46):
So I think something that people wonder about is what
does a producer do? And green Day are producers on
this movie. What was their role in maybe some of
those details or there Aside from them being in the movie, Like,
what role does a producer play when somebody like Green Day, That's.
Speaker 6 (37:01):
A great question.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
So essentially they were they were sort of my guidepost, right.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
So I wrote the film. I gave it to Billy Joe.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
It's kind of started with Billy Joe and I, so
we were kind of like working on the story a
little bit together, and I was of course talking to
Mike and Tray about it and stuff, but it was
kind of Billy Joe was the first one I sent
the script. He read the script. I had a couple suggestions.
I did another rewrite, and then he was like, you
know what we should do?
Speaker 1 (37:23):
He liked you.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
So after the second rewrite, we were both like, we
like this, this is essentially the film.
Speaker 6 (37:28):
And he said, rather than me give the script to
Mike and Trey, why don't we just do a reading
of it. Let's just let just do a reading and
then they could hear it. I think it might be
more effective that way.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
So we put together a whole reading and I got
a bunch of great actors and we just read the
script and it was a chance for them to hear
it for the first time and really understand what we
were trying to do as well as their whole team,
and they just got on board. And then from there
on in it was just, you know, occasionally I'd reach out.
I'd be like, hey, guys, I got a question, or
I want to talk about a detail in the movie.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
What's funny is, when we started shooting the movie, they
had gone on their their.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
Tour for the Saviors tour, so they were out on
the road and they were they were busy. So I
would send them little daily stuff from time to time
just because I was excited about it. I wanted to
see it. And they would say they were saying, keep going, man,
we're loving this, We're loving what we're seeing, you know,
And and so I just kept making the film and
until finally, you know, I wanted to show them the movie.
(38:25):
I had shown it to a few people, I'd gotten
good feedback. I was like, guys, it's time.
Speaker 6 (38:29):
For you to see it.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
I flew to London with the film and my producer,
Tim Perell, and we sat down in the screening room
in London and I screened the movie for him, you know,
talking about nervous.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
I'm like, and at the end, they just said, dude,
we love it. Man, we f and love it. It's great.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
No notes. They had no notes for me. Wow, no notes.
Speaker 6 (38:48):
Can you believe that?
Speaker 5 (38:49):
I figured at least a song they would say like
don't use this song or whatever, they have a single one.
It was like, we love it, let's go and and
I mean that was that was a hell of a
night for me in London.
Speaker 7 (38:59):
I'll tell you what's incredibly rare to not have any
notes when it's so like that's like their baby, like
that's their story, So their story.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Man.
Speaker 7 (39:07):
When it came to the music, how did you decide
what songs to include? Because obviously I feel like Green
Day has all these different era There's the nineties era
where they exploded. There's this two thousands era, which is
kind of when I got into Green Day. So if
you look at my favorite Green Day song, it's like
in the two thousands then they had like this re
emergence and even now they're just keep getting bigger and bigger.
So how did you decide what songs to include in
(39:29):
the movie?
Speaker 5 (39:30):
Yeah, I so Originally when I started writing, I realized, Okay,
I've got all the whole catalog to choose from, So
I'm gonna listen to everything and make sure I've heard
every song. And then I just it became a thing,
a task of of two things. First of all, picking
songs that fit into piece story points in the film,
you know. And I wanted to find ways to use
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the music that aren't just needle drops, but are sometimes
those songs are sung in the movie. Sometimes they're they're
used as score, sometimes they're just background music, you know.
So I wanted to find all these kind of creative
ways to use it. And then I wanted to use
songs that kind of like span their career but also
span the sort of the incredible variety of songs that
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they write. So some hits, some deep cuts, you know,
some hidden gems, like all sorts of different types of
songs in there. And probably when I shot the movie,
I think like probably eighty percent of the songs that
are in the film were already in my head in
the film, and then in the editing room, there was
a few changes that I made because I just realized
that one song might work better, but it was almost
(40:34):
pretty much in my head. What I shot was the
songs that were in the movie.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
Music's not cheap. How do you get all these songs
in there.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
I mean, right, that's we So that was an incredible
deal with Warner Music, who owns most of their songs.
I mean, now Green Day, I think their last couple
records have been their own. They're out of the Warner deal.
But Warner Music was so incredible to us. They were
excited about the movie. You know, they wanted this movie
to be out there. They wanted, you know, the the
new fans, but possibly to hear the songs. And so
(41:03):
they were just very helpful. They were helpful, and they
made it very easy for us to use all all
this all this music, and I'm so grateful to them,
you know.
Speaker 7 (41:11):
So, did you say you listened to every single Green
Day song that exists?
Speaker 6 (41:14):
Everyone I could find. Yeah, I mean I had to,
you know, It's like I had to. I had to
make sure I had the gamut.
Speaker 5 (41:20):
I mean, there's even there's a there's a demo for
a song called in the End that I ended up
putting it into the film that I listened to that
just felt right for that moment and the story kind
of around the time when the boys are recording their demo,
I thought I will put a Green Day demo in there.
Speaker 6 (41:35):
So yeah, I listened to as much as I could.
Speaker 7 (41:37):
You know, So you're the perfect person to ask your
top five Green Day songs of all time?
Speaker 6 (41:41):
Well, it's got for.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
Number one is definitely Jesus Suburbia, Okay, for sure, right
number one.
Speaker 6 (41:46):
Then I would say, I would say that's number one.
I would say the song I just said in the
end is up there, basket Case.
Speaker 5 (41:55):
I can't go without that song classic wake Me Up,
Wake Me Up in September ends, and.
Speaker 6 (42:01):
I'm gonna throw a deep cut in there.
Speaker 5 (42:03):
I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say something off Insomniac, which
I've used in the movie Bab's Juvula.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
Who there's a deep cut?
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Man?
Speaker 4 (42:13):
How is it working with your wife? How do you
direct her?
Speaker 5 (42:17):
Well, luckily, we have a really good working relationship. We've
we've worked together a few times and and for this movie, man,
it was just really just just you know, First of all,
I'll say this, she had so she had gone through
a breast cancer treatment before we shot the movie.
Speaker 6 (42:35):
Three weeks before we started shooting, she had finished her treatment.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
So so all of that experience was in her, all
of that traumatic, difficult experience was in her.
Speaker 6 (42:47):
And she just brought all that to the surface in
this role. You know.
Speaker 5 (42:51):
Her role really is, to me, sort of the heart
of the film, part of the story of the movie
as a family kind of going through a crisis, and
I I was just so in love with what she
was doing and what she brought to And it's.
Speaker 6 (43:04):
A role that you don't really think, you know, you
wouldn't really see her play. It's far from Pam, you know.
Speaker 5 (43:11):
So in terms of your question, I mean, I just
let her do her thing, you know, and maybe I
would just say, oh, before you say that line, take
a breath or something. There was no notes needed to
give in terms of performance because she just brought so
much emotional energy to it, you know, and also motherly energy,
you know, in a really fun way.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
Thanks for listening to the Bobby Cast. Share this episode
with a friend because they don't pay to advertise us.
I got humbled recently by a celebrity and they weren't
doing it to be mean or problematic, and I actually
really liked the celebrity.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I didn't know them.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
It was Pat Monahan from Train and he came in
to do an episode of the Bobbycast and we're sitting
there and I did not think that he would remember me,
because I'd met him once at a golf thing and
he says down and I was just going to bring
it up. But again I had no expectation of him
meeting me because I was just a random dude. But
(00:36):
he says, hey, we've met before. Before we start recording,
and you see us talk about it in the video.
But I said yeah, And he said yeah, you were
covering the Pebble Beach pro Am and I said no,
because it's a celebrity tournament, the Pebble Beach Proram. I
said no, I was playing it, and so I don't.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Need to be humbled.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I lived in this odd ground of like hating everything
I do and being extremely confident in what I'm doing,
and it's a weird place to be. But the humbling
came from Pat Monaghan did not think I was a
celebrity and that I would be playing in the celebrity
program at Pebble Beach, that I would be covering it,
and there's no shame in covering it.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
But I did meet him at that event.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
He remembered and that's pretty cool, so I thought i'd
start with the Humbling story there. He did say to
the people, confuse him for Jason Bateman, and at the time,
I thought, that's kind of weird because you don't look
like Jason Bamon. And then I saw a picture of
him on the Train Instagram account and he was in
San Francisco riding a trolley and when I was flipping through,
I thought it was Jason Bateman, So I see it now. Hey,
(01:44):
how about that for Humble Humble you if you haven't
seen that episode, though, it's great, go watch the train episode.
I did find out recently that so we all have
our phones and we all can pay for stuff with
the double click on our phones here in which I
do a lot of Uber Eats and door Dash. That's
probably what I waste the most money on. And it's
(02:04):
become so easy to buy things even with Amazon right
It's you don't even have to like double click anything.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
On Amazon.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
You just hit it and it's there. It's one push.
I have so many credit card points, and this is
not a flex. I have always been scared of using
my credit card points because I have felt that at
some point I will need to use those credit card points,
like I'll need them. So I've always been not going
to use them, not going to use them in case
the day comes or I have to have them. I
have acquired, as I look this morning, over six million
(02:34):
credit card points.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I've never used them. I've had this same.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Credit card for probably close to a decade. Six million
credit card points is around sixty thousand dollars. That is
an insane amount of money to have in credit card points.
Where I start to worry is I now can double
click and pay with credit card points. It now pops
up as an option that if I want to pay
(02:59):
for something, all I have to do is hit one down,
double click, and it'll start subtracting credit card points. I've
not started doing that yet for the same exact reason.
Could I be paying for all my door Dash and
all my Uber eats with credit card points?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yes? Will I know?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Well, I probably passed my credit card points down to
my daughter yes, that I think is what will happen
because I'm so scared. Like when I started to have
any sort of success financially, my business manager, which I
have now, which I didn't even know what that was.
She was the one who made me stop paying bills
a month in advance, like overpaying bills because I was
(03:36):
always fearful of I won't have enough money. So if
I overpay a month ahead of time, I'm covered for
at least a month.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
It give me a buffer. And I think this credit
card point thing.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Is the last it's the last thread of that because
I've had to leave it in other capacities like I
don't pay my light bill early, and I actually have
a business manager, which is if you had to ask
me ten years ago I want, I wouldn't known what
that was. And two I would have thought I'm never
going to stop doing this. But then I started getting
(04:06):
checks back from the companies and that got to be
a bit confusing. But I now can pay with credit
card points, and my goal is never to use them.
Something that people reach out to me for some people
that I know, some people that I don't, is to
let them meet really famous people. Sometimes people will reach
out and go, Hey, any chance I can meet George Strait?
(04:28):
Or some people will say, I'm having a birthday party.
I'm only an hour from San Antonio. Any chance Georgetrait
can come to my birthday party? I don't know George Strait.
I've met George Strait twice, but I don't know George Strait.
Or hey, I know you know Garth Brooks. Any chance
he could call my kid it's a birthday. I've never
done that. I don't think I'll ever do that, but
I get those requests a lot, a lot from people
(04:51):
that I don't know, some from people that I do know. Now,
if it does happen to work out, and somebody is
in a place where somebody is that they really think
is cool, I'll make that happen. I've made that happen before.
But this is universally me saying to everybody who messages me.
Mostly I'm talking to my friends here, not even talking
(05:11):
to people that are in my DMS.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Although I am.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I cannot get you a meet and greet with Kenny Rodgers.
Rest in peace, Kenny Rodgers. But even if he was alive,
I can set you up with Dolly. I can't have
you meet them. That's all my life would be with
me setting you up to meet celebrities. So no, Noella,
Laney meet and greets.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I did.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I happen to plan the Opry one night and have
a friend that is the head coach of the Purdue
football team and his daughter is a massive Landy Wilson fan.
This is one of the instances where it just happened
to work out and he's like, hey, we're coming to town.
I'm like, I'm playing the Opry and he said, we're
going to the Opry because it's my daughter's birthday and
(05:55):
she's a massive Laney Wilson fan.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I said, I know, Lanny Wilson, really well, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
And so, I mean, that's one of the possibly two
or three times that I've ever had that fall into place.
By the way, Landy Wilson a plus person. She was like, yeah,
of course. We went over to her room and backstage
at the Grand Ole Opry, you leave your doors open
unless you're changing or you're very specifically rehearsing something and
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you don't want someone from the outside interfere.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
And Landy's door was open. She was like, come on over.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
So it took her over and she's been like ten
minutes with her and that family. So man, one or
two times ever has that happened. I had someone really
close to me recently asked and I had to say no,
and it was somebody I kind of know. But I
can't get anybody to come to your birthday party. There's
actually a site you can go to if you google it,
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where you can hire celebrities to come to your parties,
or you can hire them to speak at your events.
I think on the low end, it's going to cost
you around if you want to get Vanilla ice fifteen
to twenty grand if I'm guessing, and that's non performing.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Now this is just me speculating here.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Once we got Tone Loake for about seven thousand dollars
and he played a song and a half if I'm
remembering remembering correctly, and then he passed out on stage
and everybody freaked out because we were having like a concert.
So we paid it for Tone Loake to come. And
Tone Lok has songs if you remember, like Funky Cole
Medina or she liked to do the Wow thang. So
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we were having this old school nineties type concert and
Young MC we paid him to come. I know Tone
Loak was playing and everybody freaked out because he passed
out while on stage, and we were just happy that
he made it because we didn't know what was going on.
Then we found out later it had happened to him before.
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I shouldn't say he had done that before, but that
it had happened to him prior. And I don't know
if maybe hiss help was bad or maybe if that
was his thing, he would go and he would perform
and be like, oh, I'm coming to you.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
A Sanford and Son reference there.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
But you can get famous people to come to your house,
but it isn't going to cost you a bunch of money.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
But I cannot set you up with them. A lot
a bunch of.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
People hitting me up about Amy, and the last episode
was if you're rude to Amy, FU Now I don't curse,
So for a lot of people, it was weird that
we put the F word up.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
In the thumbnail. We bleeped it out, but I didn't
say it.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Two episodes ago, I was talking about an old boss
that I had that told me.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I should blanking fire you.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
The last episode was I was talking about a celebrity
that was mean to Amy, so we don't book them
on our show. And the word was really never even used.
We just thought that'd be enticing as a thumbnail, and
so I blame that one on Brandon. So if we
have two f words in a row, we're looking to
find a third win this episode. So if we can
find a way to make this third thumbnail with an if,
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we're going to do that.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
But people were hitting me up about.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Amy and she had been on the show for twenty years,
and on the show we had just an acknowledgment, a
minor celebration. I say, this is crazy twenty years. The
clip got run a bunch of times and by a
bunch of different affiliates, well as with anything else that
I do. Some people got mad that we didn't celebrate
Eddie's ten year or Lunchbox is twenty year, and so
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I here's the reason why we didn't do Eddie or
Lunchbox or whomever else.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
They didn't tell me. Amy had to tell me.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Amy found an email from exactly twenty years ago, and
she said, oh my goodness, I found this email. It
looks like, according to this email, the day I started
was this day. So had Amy not showed me that email.
I wouldn't have even known that it was twenty years
for her to be on the show. Now you can
say that's all on me. I don't keep track of
how long that we've been here doing things or how
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long we've all been together, and we have been together
a long time. But for those of you that are
upset that I didn't do an Eddie celebration or a
lunchbox celebration, get off these nuts because I didn't know.
I didn't even know Amy's Amy told me. But that
is crazy that it's been twenty years. Another thing that's
been happening a little bit from this show is that
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I have low key inadvertently become a content influencer because
usually during a show like this, something will come up
with me and the show, and it's extremely in the
weeds about my process for doing something. And at times
I've talked about at the beginning of content, you know
you want to do this, or talking about podcasts, and
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so I've had different media, not publications, but also like
big social media accounts reach out and they want to
interview me about this stuff, which I don't really want
to do that as much.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I'm not too good for it. But I'm not.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
A content influencer, meaning I don't think I'm good enough
at that to actually always share that with you. But
it's been pretty crazy to see some of the stuff
where I'm talking about how I do it pop off.
Today's installment is this. There's a lot of people right
now in radio that are wondering what do I do
next in my career? And I don't think it has
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to be a next I think it absolutely should be
alongside what you're doing now. And everybody has a podcast.
Every single person has a podcast. All your grandma has
a podcast. It's called Nana in Friends. If you haven't subscribed,
go subscribe and like. But it's so hard to cut
through now in the podcast world because every single person
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has one. However, this is what I would tell every
single person that is doing a radio show that doesn't
have a podcast. Start a podcast and have an extreme
niche go and dial into something so specific. You may
think that doing a podcast on just season three of
The Simpsons is too niche enough. You may think that
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doing a podcast on only red guitars famous red guitars
is way too niche. At this point, it's really the
only thing that is going to cut through if you're
not a big celebrity. So that's what I recommend anybody
who's in the business that I'm in that goes, hey,
I don't know, I need to do a podcast. What
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can I do? Don't do a podcast where we just
interview people. Everybody does that. He I do it, And
I'm already starting to get fatigued of not doing interviews
because I am just generally and genuinely a curious person.
But the whole world of podcasts is now just people
interviewing people, and it's so hard to even get someone
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that's great that's not on nine other shows at the
same time. So with that being said, I think where
the pendulum swings again, it's people that can get in
front of a camera or a microphone like this by
themselves and do compelling content and talk about compelling things,
and even bring people in, but to walk alongside them
more so.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Than just interview them. Now, I'm gonna be hypocritical.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I'm gonna keep doing my interview podcast for a while,
But what I would say is do an extremely niche
podcast and be able to do it by yourself, bring
people in, even bring people on sometimes to do interviews
about the extremely niche thing. But that's how you build
a show today, because if you just keep doing what
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everybody else is doing, you're gonna get lost to the
same place everyone else is lost.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
And that's my content influencer moment there.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Hank Ty, the Bobby Cast will be right back and
we're back on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
As I was looking at on this YouTube page, which
is Bobby Bonees channel, which we did hit one hundred thousand.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
We got our.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Whatever the tile is, which is plaque thank you, which
is very exciting for me because when Brandon and I
were starting, we had like thirteen thousand followers from the
end of January, and our goal by the end of
this year was to hit one hundred thousand because this
is the hardest platform to get people to subscribe. So
if you subscribed on YouTube and you're watching, thank you
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so much. So our goal by the end of the
year was to get a hundred thousand. We hit it
a lot quicker than I think we thought we were
going to hit it, and so now we're at like
two hundred and ten thousand or so. So first of all,
thank you all for subscribing. Our next goal is to
get up to half a million, and I think we
have a chance to do that in the next six
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months or so. But some of these videos get a
bunch of views, and they get a bunch of comments,
but they don't get a lot of likes. And that
looks weird because I'll watch. We have one video I
think it was the one two ago, and it was
when my boss said he I should f and fire you.
And it has two hundred thousand views, and then it
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has four likes. I need you to like the videos
because the comments are awesome. I get a lot of
the material here from the comments, like the things that
I talk about. I used to just read the comment
and then I would just talk after, but I don't
want this to seem like a mailbag type situation, so
I have things that I want to talk about mostly
from the comments. Thank you for the comments. Please keep commenting.
Thank you for watching and subscribing. It just looks funny.
(15:31):
It looks like I'm not liked. It looks like people
want to watch someone they hate. So if you don't mind,
and you're watching, please hit the like button.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I was talking to a friend of mine who just
got a morning show, and I think I'll do a
show called Hosts with her pretty soon. And she just
got a morning show and she had to follow a
show that had been on in that.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
City for a long time. That she's a really good talent,
but it.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Is difficult to have to follow like the person, the
person that has been the person for maybe thirty years.
And I definitely haven't been helping her with her content.
I think you either have that rudder or you don't.
I don't only think consultants can come in, especially for
great talent. If you're a great talent, you don't need
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a consultant to tell you what content to do. You
can have someone come in and kind of reguide you
into directions on doing more and less up. I believe
in that, but I think you either have the instinct
or you don't. And I think she has the instinct.
But she had to follow the guy, and so early
on I was just talking with her about it, what
it's going to be like, because it ain't gonna be
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fun at first, because everybody is used to hearing the
guy for thirty years. Heck, when I moved to Nashville,
I remember getting here and being a bit oblivious to
what had happened, especially on the local Nashville station, because
there was a guy named Jerry House and he was
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the legendary morning guy in Nashville for probably twenty five.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Years or so.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
And I came in and everyone was You're never gonna
be Jerry House. You're the guy that replaced Jerry House.
Like Jerry House is the man, You'll never be the man.
The craziest part about that was I wasn't the guy
that replaced Jerry House. They had another show in between.
I didn't know this either, but they brought on a
show that replaced the guy. That show did not succeed.
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Then they brought me on but to be a national show.
But I guess nobody remembered that second show. But I
didn't replace Jerry House.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yet. Here I was.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Still constantly being told, yeah, I'm a big Jerry House guy.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I don't really like what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
And so I was just walking through it with her
to expect these type of things because I lived it.
I got in trouble once way early on, and I
wrote this in my first book, because the studio that
we had moved into when we moved to Nashville, it
was the Jerry House studio. I'd never even met Jerry House,
and I didn't follow Jerry House. I respected the fact
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that he was a legend here in Nashville, but I
didn't have a relationship with him in any way. And
so every day I would go into that studio and
I would be so annoyed that I had to work
out of a studio named for someone else. It drove
me a bit, and I made the deal with myself
that the first time that we go number one in Nashville,
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I'm going to take the sign down. I'm not going
to say anything about it. I'm not going to say
anything about it existing up there and it bothering me.
But it did bother me because I felt like I
was working in someone else's studio. And the first time
we had number one in the evening, I drove back
to the studio and I took a screwdriver and I
took the plaque off the wall, pulled it down, didn't
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say anything about it. I didn't like ceremonial throwing the
trash or anything, because I have a lot of respect
for someone that can sustain a career in a media
business for that long. But I don't want to work
out of somebody else's studio, so I took it down.
And at the time, I was so unwelcomed by the
Nashville Machine because I was doing things differently that man.
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There were so many negative articles about how I didn't
respect Jerry House, how I took his sign down because
I didn't think it deserved to be up on the wall,
And in reality, I just for me. It was a
goal I had to accomplish something so I could pull
it down. But I know what it's like to work
under that, and it is extremely frustrating. And there's a saying,
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you never want to be the guy that replaces the guy.
You want to be the guy that replaces the guy
that replaces the guy. And even I did that and
it sucked. So she's dealing with this or I was
at least trying to get it ready for it, and
she's doing a great job now and I'm so happy
for her. But I was telling the story like I've
hired people before to build shows to beat me, meaning
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I've taken my own money, found people that I wholly respect,
and I've paid them to listen to my show and
podcasts for multiple weeks at a time and write a
report on how if they were going to put a
show against me in some capacity, how they would beat
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me find my weaknesses. So I'm paying my own money
to have somebody listen to me to tell me how
to beat me so I can make sure that I've
got those holes covered. And so I did this, and
I wasn't really doing it to tell anyone. I just
wanted to know where my vulnerabilities were. This is years ago,
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and I remember getting the reports and they were great,
and they both had different opinions. They also, the two
people I hire did not know that the other one
was doing one, so they weren't working with each other,
and so they listened things that they thought maybe I
didn't do enough or didn't do well enough. And some
of the things from each of the reports were the same,
and that's when I thought, Okay, these are definitely things
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that I need to work on. And they were both good,
but one of them was so good and thorough that
I sent it into the company and I said, hey,
I hired these people, this one person specifically here to
go through and beat my show. And they said you
hired with your own money? Said yeah, yeah, I with
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my own money because I want to always be prepared.
I don't want to depend on anybody else to tell
me where my weaknesses are. First of all, I kind
of know my weaknesses, but maybe one of my weaknesses
is that I don't know my weaknesses. So I sent
it in and they weren't happy that I did that.
They weren't happy that I paid for my own research.
Later on, it made a lot of sense. But so
the person who I thought did such a great job,
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I recommended them to my company to do this for
other shows, to consult other shows, to be the rudder
to go, hey, maybe do a little less of this,
do a little more of this.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
There's a big hole here.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
And it all comes back around because now that person
that I hired to do that to my show is
now consulting that host that I'm talking to and was
helping her who's replacing the guy. And they didn't know that,
and I didn't know that. And I'm talking to that
morning show host who's replacing the guy after thirty years,
and I'm just checking in, how's your mental health?
Speaker 2 (22:23):
And she says it's great.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
And I have this consultant and she's so and so,
and I'm like, you will never believe this story. I
think so much of her that I paid my own
money to have her breakdown my show and tell me
where I suck. So everything came all the way back around,
and that's pretty cool. And it's also like I really
believe and investing in yourself at whatever level you can.
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It might just be five bucks, it might be five
hundred bucks, it might be time like health right, And
that's an example of me doing that there where I
spent the money. It's really cool to see those those
things all.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Come together there. I guess I'll do another.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
I don't mean to do a lot of influencer clips
here because I'm not Bobby the media influencer, but I
was watching back an interview that I did.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
The one thing that I hate.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
That people do when they're interviewing people is when they
go uh huh yeah, uh huh yeah as the person
is talking. If I ask someone a question and they're
answering the question, like the human thing to do is
to acknowledge they're talking and go yep uh huh, yep
uh huh. However, the podcast host or radio host thing
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not to do is go yep uh huh yeah uh huh.
So it's against everything that is naturally inside of you
as a human being. Because if we're sitting at a
restaurant and we're having lunch and you're telling me a
great story, I'm going wow, yep, uh huh yep. However,
if microphones are on and people have to listen to us,
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do that what they don't want to hear somebody going yeah,
uh huh yeah uh huh.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
So I've caught me doing it. I hate me doing it.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
It drives me crazy when I do it. So as
a suggestion to hold me accountable if you're watching interviews
that I do, and as a suggestion to people out
there that are doing interviews, so I can hold you accountable.
When you ask someone a question and they're answering, don't
yeah uh huh at all. It's so unnatural to just
be quiet during that. But it's unnatural to humans, not
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to the person listening. Now, if you want to react
like oh or wow, you can do that all day
long because that adds to what the person is listening to.
But I say this because I judge me for doing
it too. So reaction good. Uh huh yeah, uh huh bad?
Speaker 2 (24:51):
How'd you clip that?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I probably get some shares on that one, but I
do feel like podcast interviews it's just too many. I
do get people asking me who's good now, which is weird,
and it's such a subjective thing. I'm gonna list a
few personalities that I think are fantastic for different reasons.
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My favorite podcast radio personality in the whole world right
now is Charlemagne the God. He's so honest, extremely authentic,
and you don't know what he's gonna say, but I'm
gonna go and say it again. He's very honest with
what he believes all the time. He's also a dear
friend of mine. But I think part of the reason
he's a dear friend of mine is because I respect
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what and how he does it so much. He's also
the person that I will call and go, hey, what
do you think about this?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Am I in the wrong?
Speaker 1 (25:40):
And he's also the person that will say, yes, you're
on the wrong to me if I'm in the wrong.
But I don't think I could have the respect or
the friendship if I didn't think that he was so
good at what he did. So I'm putting Charlemagne the
God on the list. My favorite straight ahead podcast and
this is two different hosts, but they're so good individually
and they're so good together. One guy's name is Brandon Walker.
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I hated him when I started to see his content
with the first time that I watched him talk about
college football. I hated his guts because he hated Arkansas
and he would talk so bad about Arkansas.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
And then I realized what he was doing.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
He was doing it so good it made me hate him.
And he's also very funny, and so I'm going to
put on my list right now, I'll just call it
the mount rushmore of my favorite personalities. Now, I'm going
to put Brandon Walker up there. So funny, so knowledgeable,
also like something's wrong with him and if you can
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be smart and have something wrong with you and use
that something wrong with you to your advantage, like it's
he's awesome. The other one is Mark Titus. Now, Titus
played basketball at Ohio State. He did his own stuff
for a long time, and he's a big college basketball guy,
where Brandon Walker's a big college football guy. So by himself,
Titus is a giant. And they're both literally like six
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six two.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
So they are.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
But they do a show together called Mostly Sports. It
is my favorite podcast, but I would put them individually
up on my right now. As I'm thinking about this,
mount rushmore personalities I enjoy. And if I'm also going
to pick a radio person, I'm going to pick a
guy named Austin Huff in Chicago. But when I say
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radio person, like, you have to have multiple facets about you.
And so he does mornings in Chicago on the country
station there, and I think he's really good at that.
He also does a sports show on the weekend on
maybe for Westwood One. It's a national platform, and he's
also really.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Good at that.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
So he's someone who definitely is multifaceted, is good in
a lot of ways, and he's also funny on social media.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
So right now, those are the Forum putting up there. No,
we don't have four heads.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Maybe in this clip will do the four heads, but
i'll put those those up up now. I appreciate you
guys watching the show. So I think the one personal
thing that I'll share before I go is that my
daughter is now five months old, and I was taking
her out of the crib up in her room. I
was walking around and I was just kind of looking
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around her room, and my wife has done a great
job with decorating her room because it's Matilda.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Now Matilda has the pig Madeline.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
My wife has decorated her room and a lot of
these really cool Madeline prints, and my wife has such
a great eye for aesthetic. And I'm taking my daughter
out and I'm looking around and I'm like, this is
a really cool room. And I was so hesitant to
call it a nursery. I don't know why, but I
was like, her nursery is really cool. And my wife
did a great job. But I remember thinking, I'm a
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little bit jealous that my daughter has a room, and
like it was the first time because my therapist had said,
some of the stuff that you struggle with is going
to back up through your daughter now that you have
a child. This is the first time that happened. I
remember looking around and going, you have a room, and
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being really proud that I could provide that, but a
little bit jealous that I never had a bedroom growing up,
and never had I'll say, the security of walls, gut
stop on the couch in my whole life, I never
had a bedroom. And it was the first time. And listen,
this wasn't like a lingering thing where I'm mad at
my daughter. But it was the first time where what
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my therapist had been telling me was you're gonna have
these emotions come up that you're gonna have to redeal
with and kind of finalize within yourself because of your daughter.
And as I was walking her out of her room
and I'm looking at this really great nursery that my
wife has put together wonderfully, and it's so warm and
safe feeling. For just a fraction of a second, I thought, God, dang,
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I wish I'd had a room growing up, but this
is free, this is awesome. And then it went away,
and I was very happy that I can provide that.
But that's the first time that's happened. And then I
had the awareness to go, that's the first time that's happened.
We're now all these issues that I think I've somewhat
worked through because I can at least acknowledge they exist,
and I think that's the first step of working through things.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Is going. Aha, there it is, but I don't know
if I fully work through it or not. Now.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
So I'm on the train, we're on the tracks, we're
rolling through it. I can't wait to see what other
trauma gets brought up and I gotta work through that.
I probably have like pushed to the side, or maybe
I've written in a book and then never looked back.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
But that's it. I'll end with that. Put your comments
down there if you don't mind give it a like.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
That helps so much. I wouldn't fel like such a loser.
I do like calling you guys weed eaters. I think
that's funny. It kind of accidentally came out and I
was like, Oh, you weed eaters out there, and then
I thought, oh, I used to do maintenance on a
golf course. Boy do I have a relationship with weed eaters.
So all the weed eaters out there watching this, I
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appreciate it. Down in the comments, write me a stay weedy,
ask me a question if you want to ask it.
I've been trying to figure out what stay weedy means.
I think it just means, like, be super aware, like
stay down on the weeds. Don't believe everything you see
on the internet. Don't even believe everything that people say.
One of the most frustrating things about living in Nashville
and living in country music is seeing people be bad actors.
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And there are some of the greatest people in this
town in country music, and they are who they say
they are. So I want to say that, first of all,
there are people in country music that are exactly what
they represent outwardly, and that's so cool to see. There
are some people that have a presentation of great Christian
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helpful and they are exactly the opposite. And I think that,
to me is one of the most frustrating parts about
being here is seeing people fall for that, because there
are those here. There's a lot of those. There's more
of those than not. There's one in particular that is
the Facus, and it is all their brand. Their whole
brand is I Love Jesus, and they could not love
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Jesus any less. They're known for when new female artists
come to town, like young ones, not illegal young, but
like nineteen twenty twenty one. Just don't believe everything you
see her here. Don't even believe it. For me, we've
done the bit where I'll write something to put it
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on the internet. You can just say I know you
could do it. That means you're just you're just being aware.
So stay weedy, stay in the weeds. Pay attention. There's
lies everywhere. Heck, fact check me like crazy I want
you to do that.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
But that's it.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Thanks for watching this episode and we will see you
guys next time, probably in a few days.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Here.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
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Speaker 1 (33:22):
All right. I want to share with you now a
clip from Movie Mike's Movie Podcast. He talked to director
Lee Kirk, who just put out a green Day comedy movie.
It's in theaters called Nimrods, and he talked about how
Lee met the lead singer of Green Day, what it
was like working with them, and Lee's wife is Jenni Fisher,
who played Pam in the Office.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
And if you like this, go hit subscribe. You gotta
go get it. Movie Mike's Movie Podcast. All right, here
you go.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
So, how did you meet Billy Joel Armstrong?
Speaker 5 (33:52):
So I made a film with him in twenty sixteen
called Ordinary World, and I had written the film. It
was about a dad whose family forgets his fortieth birthday.
Speaker 6 (34:01):
He's like an ex rocker guy, and I.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
Was confused about which actor I could get for this role.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
Never thought I'd get a musician.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
And the script was sent to his agent for an actor,
and she read it and she said, hey, I wrapped
Billy Jo Armstrong and he's actually been asking about maybe
doing a little acting. What do you want to meet
with him? And I was like, absolutely, that's so outside
the box. I hadn't even thought about that. And then
he read it and he was into it, and so
we ended up working together on it for almost a year.
(34:32):
We would rehearse together, we'd kind of work on the character,
make it feel very comfortable for him, and they ended
up writing music for it, and one of the songs
he wrote was Ordinary World. Originally the movie is called Geezer,
but when he wrote ordinary World, I was like, well,
we have to have that in the movie, and then
I'm going to change the title to ordinary World.
Speaker 6 (34:48):
And so then he put up that song on Revolution Radio.
But anyway, we stayed in touch.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
We stayed in touch, and when it became time, you know,
a few years ago, he decided he wanted to do
a green name movie and he reached.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
Out, and of course I was. I was so psyched
to get involved.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
So how did that start from the beginning?
Speaker 7 (35:03):
Because I think a lot of people are gonna think,
why is it not a traditional bio pick, like it's
it's their story, but done through different characters.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
So how did that come about?
Speaker 5 (35:11):
So Originally, the idea that Billy Joe reached out to
to me about was a New Year's Eve movie a band,
a movie about a bunch of kids going to see
Green Day on New Year's Eve.
Speaker 6 (35:21):
That was all he had.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
So we started talking about, well, what could the story
be and who could these kids be? And we came
up with this idea of these kids who were driving
across the country, who are in a punk band themselves,
and they're driving across to see their heroes, and you know,
for various reasons. I won't give away why they're driving
across the country, but all is not as it seems,
I'll say that, but then you know then, so then
(35:43):
I had to write the movie, and I realized, Okay,
I need a bunch of fun, crazy stuff to happen
to these kids.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
Now.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
I could either invent that stuff, or I can just
go to the stores.
Speaker 6 (35:53):
Billy Joe, Mike, and Trey, and I can ask them, guys,
tell me some crazy stories of your days on the road.
So they did.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
And then I took those stories and I sort of
reformatted them, twisted them around whatever I needed to do
to kind of fit them into my story. And so
as I was doing that, I realized, well, I can
do that with all sorts of green Day stuff. I
can do it with just like little details like like
in the movie the kids drive around in an ice
cream truck, green Day famously drove around an old bookmobile,
(36:20):
and so that was kind of my way of paying
paying homage to that. But also some personal things about
the characters too that I sort of used from Mike
and Billy, Joe and Trey and and put those in
the film. And so it became this way of telling
their story that is not, you know, a straight bio pick.
I mean, these characters aren't supposed to be Billy, Joe, Mike,
and Trey. But Trey recently, I just saw him and
(36:41):
he said he called it historical fiction, which I thought
was actually a good way to talk about it. You know.
Speaker 7 (36:46):
So I think something that people wonder about is what
does a producer do? And green Day are producers on
this movie. What was their role in maybe some of
those details or there Aside from them being in the movie, Like,
what role does a producer play when somebody like Green Day, That's.
Speaker 6 (37:01):
A great question.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
So essentially they were they were sort of my guidepost, right.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
So I wrote the film. I gave it to Billy Joe.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
It's kind of started with Billy Joe and I, so
we were kind of like working on the story a
little bit together, and I was of course talking to
Mike and Tray about it and stuff, but it was
kind of Billy Joe was the first one I sent
the script. He read the script. I had a couple suggestions.
I did another rewrite, and then he was like, you
know what we should do?
Speaker 1 (37:23):
He liked you.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
So after the second rewrite, we were both like, we
like this, this is essentially the film.
Speaker 6 (37:28):
And he said, rather than me give the script to
Mike and Trey, why don't we just do a reading
of it. Let's just let just do a reading and
then they could hear it. I think it might be
more effective that way.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
So we put together a whole reading and I got
a bunch of great actors and we just read the
script and it was a chance for them to hear
it for the first time and really understand what we
were trying to do as well as their whole team,
and they just got on board. And then from there
on in it was just, you know, occasionally I'd reach out.
I'd be like, hey, guys, I got a question, or
I want to talk about a detail in the movie.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
What's funny is, when we started shooting the movie, they
had gone on their their.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
Tour for the Saviors tour, so they were out on
the road and they were they were busy. So I
would send them little daily stuff from time to time
just because I was excited about it. I wanted to
see it. And they would say they were saying, keep going, man,
we're loving this, We're loving what we're seeing, you know,
And and so I just kept making the film and
until finally, you know, I wanted to show them the movie.
(38:25):
I had shown it to a few people, I'd gotten
good feedback. I was like, guys, it's time.
Speaker 6 (38:29):
For you to see it.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
I flew to London with the film and my producer,
Tim Perell, and we sat down in the screening room
in London and I screened the movie for him, you know,
talking about nervous.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
I'm like, and at the end, they just said, dude,
we love it. Man, we f and love it. It's great.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
No notes. They had no notes for me. Wow, no notes.
Speaker 6 (38:48):
Can you believe that?
Speaker 5 (38:49):
I figured at least a song they would say like
don't use this song or whatever, they have a single one.
It was like, we love it, let's go and and
I mean that was that was a hell of a
night for me in London.
Speaker 7 (38:59):
I'll tell you what's incredibly rare to not have any
notes when it's so like that's like their baby, like
that's their story, So their story.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Man.
Speaker 7 (39:07):
When it came to the music, how did you decide
what songs to include? Because obviously I feel like Green
Day has all these different era There's the nineties era
where they exploded. There's this two thousands era, which is
kind of when I got into Green Day. So if
you look at my favorite Green Day song, it's like
in the two thousands then they had like this re
emergence and even now they're just keep getting bigger and bigger.
So how did you decide what songs to include in
(39:29):
the movie?
Speaker 5 (39:30):
Yeah, I so Originally when I started writing, I realized, Okay,
I've got all the whole catalog to choose from, So
I'm gonna listen to everything and make sure I've heard
every song. And then I just it became a thing,
a task of of two things. First of all, picking
songs that fit into piece story points in the film,
you know. And I wanted to find ways to use
(39:52):
the music that aren't just needle drops, but are sometimes
those songs are sung in the movie. Sometimes they're they're
used as score, sometimes they're just background music, you know.
So I wanted to find all these kind of creative
ways to use it. And then I wanted to use
songs that kind of like span their career but also
span the sort of the incredible variety of songs that
(40:13):
they write. So some hits, some deep cuts, you know,
some hidden gems, like all sorts of different types of
songs in there. And probably when I shot the movie,
I think like probably eighty percent of the songs that
are in the film were already in my head in
the film, and then in the editing room, there was
a few changes that I made because I just realized
that one song might work better, but it was almost
(40:34):
pretty much in my head. What I shot was the
songs that were in the movie.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
Music's not cheap. How do you get all these songs
in there.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
I mean, right, that's we So that was an incredible
deal with Warner Music, who owns most of their songs.
I mean, now Green Day, I think their last couple
records have been their own. They're out of the Warner deal.
But Warner Music was so incredible to us. They were
excited about the movie. You know, they wanted this movie
to be out there. They wanted, you know, the the
new fans, but possibly to hear the songs. And so
(41:03):
they were just very helpful. They were helpful, and they
made it very easy for us to use all all
this all this music, and I'm so grateful to them,
you know.
Speaker 7 (41:11):
So, did you say you listened to every single Green
Day song that exists?
Speaker 6 (41:14):
Everyone I could find. Yeah, I mean I had to,
you know, It's like I had to. I had to
make sure I had the gamut.
Speaker 5 (41:20):
I mean, there's even there's a there's a demo for
a song called in the End that I ended up
putting it into the film that I listened to that
just felt right for that moment and the story kind
of around the time when the boys are recording their demo,
I thought I will put a Green Day demo in there.
Speaker 6 (41:35):
So yeah, I listened to as much as I could.
Speaker 7 (41:37):
You know, So you're the perfect person to ask your
top five Green Day songs of all time?
Speaker 6 (41:41):
Well, it's got for.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
Number one is definitely Jesus Suburbia, Okay, for sure, right
number one.
Speaker 6 (41:46):
Then I would say, I would say that's number one.
I would say the song I just said in the
end is up there, basket Case.
Speaker 5 (41:55):
I can't go without that song classic wake Me Up,
Wake Me Up in September ends, and.
Speaker 6 (42:01):
I'm gonna throw a deep cut in there.
Speaker 5 (42:03):
I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say something off Insomniac, which
I've used in the movie Bab's Juvula.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
Who there's a deep cut?
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Man?
Speaker 4 (42:13):
How is it working with your wife? How do you
direct her?
Speaker 5 (42:17):
Well, luckily, we have a really good working relationship. We've
we've worked together a few times and and for this movie, man,
it was just really just just you know, First of all,
I'll say this, she had so she had gone through
a breast cancer treatment before we shot the movie.
Speaker 6 (42:35):
Three weeks before we started shooting, she had finished her treatment.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
So so all of that experience was in her, all
of that traumatic, difficult experience was in her.
Speaker 6 (42:47):
And she just brought all that to the surface in
this role. You know.
Speaker 5 (42:51):
Her role really is, to me, sort of the heart
of the film, part of the story of the movie
as a family kind of going through a crisis, and
I I was just so in love with what she
was doing and what she brought to And it's.
Speaker 6 (43:04):
A role that you don't really think, you know, you
wouldn't really see her play. It's far from Pam, you know.
Speaker 5 (43:11):
So in terms of your question, I mean, I just
let her do her thing, you know, and maybe I
would just say, oh, before you say that line, take
a breath or something. There was no notes needed to
give in terms of performance because she just brought so
much emotional energy to it, you know, and also motherly energy,
you know, in a really fun way.
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