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October 22, 2024 66 mins

On this episode of The Bobbycast, Carter Faith sits down with Bobby Bones to discuss her musical journey. Growing up in a non-musical family in Davidson, North Carolina, she was inspired by music at a young age and taught herself to play guitar and piano. She shares how she went from being a shy kid, to performing at places around her hometown. Carter also tells us why she wanted to quit school and reveals which artists speak to her. She also tells us what it meant to sign her record deal, why she wants to become a big deal and more! 

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
I always wrote poetry growing up. I just love words,
so I would write poetry a lot. And then one
day I just wanted to put a song that I
wrote in my set and not tell anyone, and so
that's what I kind of started doing.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Episode four seventy six. Her name is Carter Faith.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
I know I say this a lot of times, but
I'm a big fan of Carter Faith. And I say
that because I took her on tour with me and
I like her a lot. The thing about Carter Faith
is she looks like a girl next door, but she
has an edge, like an unexpected age, and I really
like it. It's super refreshing and she's like, this is
who I am. You know, suck it basically, but in

(00:45):
like a really honest, very likable way. So she has
a new song called The Aftermath, and we can't play
that right.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
We can't because we will go to jail.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
So we suggest that you go and check out The Aftermath.
She has a whole new EP called The Aftermath. It
just came out on October eleventh. I encourage you to
go and search for it if you like this interview.
And I wish we could play clips, but now we
get sued by everybody that here's a clip that we
post on the podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah sucks, I mean it does.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
It sucks hard. It puts us in a bad place.
She will be on Towards Midland this fall. She's opening
for Carly Pearce on some dates. But before all that,
let's not forget she opened for Bobby Bones.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
She did. She did.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
She's from David's in North Carolina. She has an older sister,
a younger brother who's also a musical artist. His name
is Gryffdorff. Yeah sounds like it's from Harry Potter.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Gryffindor.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Oh that's why I didn't know his real name, but
it's I knew it sounded like Harry Potter.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Of her, her whole family.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Her her dad represented the Baltimore Orioles, like main owner,
which is pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
And I wanted to be like, do they still have
a relationship? Can I get out? Can I get some
get some tickets.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
She grew up in a non musical family, but her
grandfather's country music cassette tapes were what inspired her. Taught
herself PM and guitar about sixteen, started writing lyrics. She
went to like a camp in Nashville because she wanted
to do music and performed at the Bluebird. She graduated
from Cannon School in June twenty eighteenth. I don't know

(02:13):
what that is. Is that where you learn how to
shoot cannons from the old days? I don't know if so.
Another wrinkle to her life that I'm impressed by songwriting
program at Belmont University.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
She went to school there.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
I don't know we could keep going, but I just
want you to hear from her, because again, like I
really like her and she's good, and I've just spent
a decent amount of time with her because again we
went and you know, did some shows together at Carter Faith, which,
by the way, her name sounds like a Christian artist.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
I didn't even think of that.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
That's what I thought the first time I heard that
she was playing at the Opry. I was like, Oh,
it's an artist, you know, with a message of God,
Jesus the Lord. And I'm sure she loves Jesus and
the Lord. But I'm telling you, she has an edge
about her that is so refreshing, Like when she's like
in this interview, yeah, we just went out with smoked
cigarettes in the back, I'm like, that's just funny to say,
because you look like that the person that would not

(03:07):
have talked to me in high school.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
You could just like casually drop drop the F word.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah, she was just like this f that. Yeah, so
Carter Faith again. Check her out on Instagram at Carter
Faith and Carter If you're listening to this this intro here,
I say all that with much love I do the aftermath,
check it out here we go. It's Carter Faith, Carter Faith.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Hello, Hello Bobby. What what cities were we together?

Speaker 1 (03:32):
We were in Wichital for two nights. I remember that
because I wrote a song called two Nights in Wichita
when I got back.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah, I remember you being really good, and I know
you're really good anyway. And then I know Tofer who
I did. I purposefully did not ask Tofer who produces rightes, Yeah,
accurate for you.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
He produces all my music.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yeah, yes, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
I don't know if you write with them at all,
but I okay, And so fully did not ask him
about you because I know it would just be raving reviews.
Then you work together, But yes, absolutely, and so you're awesome.
Thank you, And I hope that my people were really
nice to you.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Oh my god, it was so fun. I thought your
show was amazing. I think that's the first time I
ever went to like stand up show in my life.
It was so good and it was honestly like really touching.
It was awesome.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Thanks.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
And So what's funny about you is that in person
quite demure very.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
You know, you.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Are a pretty soft spoken individual in human life, but
god dang, when you sing and like you, it is
like attitude central and how you write and how you sing.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
There's a flip there. Huh do you feel it?

Speaker 1 (04:51):
I definitely do. I think, you know. I I think
I come off as self spoken. I'm really like I'm
an analyzer, like ever since I was little. My Mom's like,
you're a thinker. I'm always I'm taking everything in, you know.
So I feel like one of my superpowers is I
just stay back in the room and see how people are.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Kind of so, maybe it's not even soft spoken. Maybe
it's just you're just kind of waiting. Yeah, you're observing
until you decide if you even want to be spoken
at all.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Yeah. I it probably sounds weird for me to say
this because this is my job, but I don't feel
comfortable with like attention unless I want it.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
I'm the same way.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah, it's a weird thing to explain because obviously we
want attention. This is what we're doing.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
I'm wildly introverted.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
I am too until it's time to work, and then
I am overtly Yeah, extroverted.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
It's like that one tiny part of yourself that can
be like that, and you go all the way to
that part of you.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Quiet kid or a loud kid. What were you like
as a kid?

Speaker 1 (05:50):
So quiet?

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Oh? Really?

Speaker 2 (05:51):
See I was not?

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, but so okay. Then I have a million questions.
If you're at how you got here? Where'd you grow up?

Speaker 1 (05:59):
I grew up in a little ten David's in North
Carolina where Steph Curry. He's our claim to fame because
he played at He played basketball at Davidson College, and
that's like the only celebrity we have.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Do you remember him playing there?

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yes? Because they made it to the elite age.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
They had a run and like.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
The news came and we all got I went to
Davidson Elementary, which was like a block away from Davidson College,
and we all got to leave school one day and
go like be on the news. It was so fun.
It was like small town fame thing that never happens.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
So you're from what's the name of your town again?
It is david it is and you went to Davidson
Elementary and that college is in the town.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, that college is in the town.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
So there must be a ten thousand people that lived
there at least, right.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah, it's a lot of it's townies versus school kids.
I think it's a weird place because it's all the
school kids. It's a really smart school. It's a very
liberal town in the middle of a very conservative state.
So it's just all those things.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Why did you stay home and go to school? Are
you to college?

Speaker 1 (07:03):
I did? I went to Belmont, Oh, so.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
You came here for college?

Speaker 1 (07:05):
I did?

Speaker 2 (07:05):
So you did all the high school there.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
It's just confusing to me when there's a college and
high school and elementary all the same name, because we
have that here too with Lipscomb. Lipscomb has elementary and
Lipscomb University, and that confuses me.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
It confuses me too because I guess they're connected, but
how are they connected?

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Went to all Lipscomb basketball game? Do you have to
be fourth graders? Was even college?

Speaker 2 (07:24):
So I was like let's go.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
So it's confusing. I see you grew up in Davidson,
parents together. My parents are together, right, yes, older brother,
sister of.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
An older sister and a younger brother.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
How much older is your sister?

Speaker 1 (07:38):
My sister is four years older than me.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
About so when you're because my mom got pregnant at fifteen,
she had me. Yeah, so when you say young parents, like,
I feel that on a deep level. So I understand
how what it was like having really young parents, but
not really knowing because that was all I knew.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah, I think it was kind of the norm more
than it is now.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
And we're from small towns, which it was very but
also for in my situation, not normal for a fifteen
year old to get pregnant regardless unless it's like the twenties.
But I know what it's like to have the young
parents and whenever adults, I mean, since whenever kids are

(08:22):
required to do adult things, sometimes they still make kid
decisions because they're still so young.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Meaning I remember my mom being twenty five. You're talking
about twenty that's crazy. You're talking about twenty right, right,
twenty four? Right, Like my mom being a year older than.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
You, and I'm in fifth grade so crazy when I
graduated so and then I look back and she just
seems like such an adult to me.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
But I look.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
At me now, going how in the world with somebody
twenty one, twenty two with a kid grown kid.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Like they're expected to make adult decisions, yes, and.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Put themselves aside. Really every single second of every day.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
That is young young young young parents.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
That is that is a tough job for sure, which
I'm going to being a very old parent.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
We don't have kids yet.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
We will have kids at some point, but I was
always so terrified to have kids because I didn't want
to be in that same situation where it's like I
don't want to like not have resources.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
And be so young.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
You're fine anyway, Yeah, that's aside from that, dude, But
I'm gonna tell your card, I have some really dumb
friends that have kids and do just fine.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
So like it's like I have friends that are idiots
that are pilots, and it scares me. But I'm like,
you know what I feel, Okay, if they're idiots and
pilots have never crashed, then I feel pretty good with
most pilots.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yes, I feel I've seen like people give their babies
a bottle Mountain dew to drink if they're thirsty.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
Like that's where that's pretty funny. That's also like where
I come from in Arkansas basically was milk.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Like, we're all gonna be fine.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
What was what was your hometown? Like? Like the school?
Was it? A? Three? A four? A? How big was
it your elementary high school?

Speaker 1 (09:56):
We so elementary school. It was pretty small. Like I
think my whole entire school life until I went to
college was like one hundred kids per grade. I knew everybody.
I mean, that's not super small, but.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
That's pretty small enough.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
My point with your sister was how old was your
mom when she had your sister?

Speaker 1 (10:15):
My mom, I remember my dad was because I remember
there's photos of my sister at his college graduation.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Really yeah, so it.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Was like that age.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, that's crazy to think about.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
And I mean it's awesome. Now we're all like best friends.
Like my parents are my best friends. They're everything to me.
But yeah, I just think about all the things they
did for us.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
They had to give up, they gave up everything.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
I realized the other day I was talking to someone
I was my dad super straight laced and works every day,
will work every day till he can't. But he played
baseball growing up, and that's what he went to college for.
That's how he got out of his small town was
a scholarship for baseball. And I was like, oh my god,
he was a dreamer. That's a dream and I they

(10:58):
gave that up just to be parents and some take
care of their kids.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
It's funny you can appreciate the dreamer part of it
because you're also a dreamer.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Right, at anytime that you want to do something that
people around you haven't done, that's bigger than not only
yourself but anyone around you.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
That's that's chasing a dream for sure.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
And yeah, and now here you are doing it. How
do they feel about you moving to Nashville?

Speaker 1 (11:17):
They're so supportive they. I was just thinking, I mean,
I was coming here today, so I was thinking about
myself and I think.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
About that every time I come here to myself. Cocidence,
yes me again.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
And I was just thinking how they every single time
I got on a stage growing up, I literally to
be pushed onto stage. So they saw something in me
way before probably they could even put that into words,
and so they pushed me to come here.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
They what do you think they saw on you so early?

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Then if you were I won't say reluctant, because if
you just didn't want to do it, you wouldn't have
done it, and they wouldn't have made made you do it.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
They saw that I was. It was fear, you know,
because again I was super quiet. My mom always called
me cautious growing up. Like my little brother if we
spent a lot of time at the beach because I'm
from near the beach, and he would be in the
water and I would scream my head off. I was like,
someone go take care of him, Like that's my personality.
So I was so scared to be on any stage

(12:17):
have people looking at me.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Why did they think initially or why did you think
initially you'd want to be on stage?

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Because it had to start. Yeah, some spark had to
create interest.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
I think something my parents tell me is I would
just sing at the top of my lungs in the
backseat of the car when you drive around to the radio,
because it's your parents, Like that doesn't feel like an
audience when you're super little. And I think they could
just tell I could carry a tune and I would
set up little concerts for my stuff to animals in
my room. I remember I sang leave the pieces by

(12:49):
the records, like till that song was in the ground.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
You know.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
I just think they had a feeling that there was
something in me. I was obsessed with reading and reading
out loud and words like when I was couldn't even read.
That's how I learned to read, was like reading to myself.
I don't know, it's really weird because we'll talk about
it now and they're like, I don't know, you just
had that bone in your body that you were gonna

(13:16):
leave this place.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Was anybody musical in your family?

Speaker 1 (13:20):
My dad's mom was musical. She was a cruise ship singer. Wow,
And we don't really talk. I mean, it was never
something I knew though until like trying to know who's
musical in my family. And then my little brother is musical.
He loves piano and writing little songs. And as I'm older,

(13:40):
I see how many more people in my family are creative,
Like my aunt loves to paint. My two of my
cousins love to sing, but none they've never took in
the leap to go do that, So that seems different
to me.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
In high school, Were you the musical kid?

Speaker 1 (13:55):
I was the secret musical kid. I didn't want anyone
to no my Like, it was very weird to me
because my real name is Carter Faith Jones, but in
high school I went by Carter Jones obviously, So I
made a YouTube channel that was Carter Faith and it
really bothered me when people found that out and would
like call me Carter Faith at school and I don't know,

(14:18):
just people knowing that I could do that or that
I cared about it was really embarrassing for me.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Why you wanted to make the channel yet you didn't
want people to know you made the channel.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
But was it only people that you knew?

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yes, people that I knew.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
That's my because because that was that's vulnerable, Yes, very
vulnerable if people you know then can judge you and
you're that that's so so I I understand that. Do
you feel like you're early Your answer is going to
be no, for sure. Do you feel like your early
YouTube work was quality?

Speaker 1 (14:55):
No? Not quality? But I look back and I'm like,
I can sing, and I like I don't even look up,
like I'm like, you know, clutching my guitar for dear
life as usual, but I don't know, there's something there.
And I think back and I always would dream of this,
like this was what I wanted, even if I didn't
even admit it to myself really for a while.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Whenever you decided to come to Nashville to go to college,
was it I'm gonna I want to go to Nashville,
but the safe way to go to Nashville is to
go to college.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. And my family is very passionate
about education. So my dad is like, I will pay
your rent if you get a degree. You cannot drop out.
I tried to drop out one million in eighteen times
and I didn't, And they're very they love that. They
love that I got my degree. But yeah, that was

(15:46):
how it was coming here for sure.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Was it safer to you if you came for college
because you were going to go to school? Sounds like
regardless and if you're if you thought I want to
be a singer, that's like a half commit to Nashville.
It's a full commit to go to college here, but
it's like a commit to the music industry. Was there
a little safety in I was.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Like, I'll be a songwriter, got it? That's safer I'll
write the four songs that I need to to go
and get into this program. And that's what I did.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
What do you mean, so you come and get into
this songwriting program?

Speaker 1 (16:18):
I got into the songwriting program. There's a teacher there,
Drew Ramsey, who was like really important to me because
he would tell everyone in class he's like, guys, there's
quiet killers in here, like we're talking about He's like,
go write with Carter. She's quiet. That doesn't mean she's
not a good songwriter, which that like, I don't know.
I think so many times like that in Nashville really

(16:40):
got me out of my comfort zone, like an a
jolt that I.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Needed, having to co write with folks you didn't know.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yeah, that's literally it's like a first date.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Though.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yes, I mean that's what it is. And I would
say with no chance walking up, but that's also not true.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
It's not true.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
But but yeah, it's it's it's because here you are,
and let's say they match you and I up but
like Bobby and car are gonna go right, And it's
like okay, well, not only is it people think, Okay,
we just sit together and write a song. But know
how you get to the point of writing a song
a concept. Why do you feel this about the concept?
What is the personal You're literally sharing this semi to

(17:20):
intimate details with somebody, Yeah, that you don't know, and yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
That's awkward.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
And I can understand how it would be awkward for
you to come to town and be like, oh boy,
here we go.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Well, what I would do is I would prepare like
basically a whole entire song and like spit it out
in pieces to act like I was writing it in
the room.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
That's like people that freestyle but they already have it
all prepared in their heads.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
That would be me.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
They're like, let me lay this down, let me go
off the dome, and then they just nail it.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
But you know they had the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
No, I'm such a liar.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
That's funny.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, I'm such a liar.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
Hang Ty, The Bobby Cast will be right back and
we're back on the Bobby Cast.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Did you write it home at all?

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Like growing up?

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, like because there weren't probably weren't a lot of
songwriters around you.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
No songwriters. I got to the point where I would
play long cover gigs at the bar in my hometown.
It's called Old Town. Public house and no one was
in there. It's just my family and the bar goers.
And I would play like four hour cover gigs. They
pay me like one hundred dollars maybe, and I would

(18:32):
start I would just get sick of them. I would
play songs twice, like at the beginning and the end.
So I was like, I should write some songs. I
always wrote poetry growing up, like I always had a
journal caring around with me. I loved reading. I just
love words, So I would write poetry a lot. And
then one day I just wanted to put a song

(18:52):
that I wrote in my set and not tell anyone,
like put it in the middle, sneak it in, And
so that's what I kind of started doing, just to
see how people react. Did and stuff.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Did you learn to play piano?

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yeah? I did. When I did the normal piano lesson
thing as a kid, I hated every second of it.
I'm not good with like authority and practicing. So they
were like, Okay, we're not going to force you to
do this because you're wasting our money.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Basically, did you then do it more because they weren't
making you do it?

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Yeah, I like that's a mess up thing that I'm
sure I'll work on at some point.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
But it's not me here.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Yeah, I think acknowledging that it exists more than working
on it because it's what's gotten here and is kind
of your superpower now. And it's also given you what
your voice is. You have a pretty rebellious voice. What's
crazy about you and your music and what you do
when you like? I like you as a person, and
again we've spent some time together outside of this. I
like you, and you're easy to like and you're super nice.

(19:51):
But again, you're like a freaking firecracker when it's showtime.
Like I would be scared of you if if I
just saw you perform, I'll be like, there's no way.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
That's hilarious. I feel like someone on my team recently
told me they were like, I like, I'm intimidated by you.
That is hilarious to me.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
That's that's truth, because you have you're dominating on stage.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah, And so I would be like, oh no, no,
she's way cooler than I am.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
I'm not gonna even go up and say if it
were the case, yeah, well.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yeah, I mean I think back to like, my music
for me is a place I can go that I
can't go any other time, and I don't feel comfortable
going there all the time, and so I put it
in my music and it's just like, I mean, it's escapism.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
I guess you come to town, you're in school, you're
writing songs. Did you feel like you liked writing songs
or was that to you something? It was fine, but
it was a conduit to get to the performance, Like
where did that all kind of fall.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
In your head?

Speaker 1 (20:48):
I love writing songs. That's my I will die writing
a song probably. I just feel like that's what I'm
here to do. That's what like, that's how I communicate
with myself in with anything else. The performance thing again,
like that is the hardest part of this business for me,
but one of my favorite parts because there is nothing

(21:11):
and I'm sure you feel this way too. There's nothing
like seeing someone in the audience who you know is
connecting with you and you know is having a great
night and you're just there with them as humans. That's
like so special to me. So I didn't know how
I would feel about performing, but I'm learning to love
it and to get used to that. It's just an

(21:31):
uncomfortable feeling for me.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
How about the vulnerability in music when you write the
song and has that been a growth process for you
where he's kind of weighed in, yeah, more and more
and more.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
I that's another thing, like I don't I can't lie
in my music. I lie a lot in real life.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Like that's what I say too, Like I'm full of
crap until I lie a lot.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
I'm a good liar. I love telling people I'm a
bad liar. But in my music, I'm so honest, I think,
and just really emotional and vulnerable because that's the type
music I love. And that's what I started writing for,
was that feeling that I needed to get out. So
it's almost like because it's music, it's like a veil

(22:16):
I can hide time.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
It's just that's the obviously that's the microphone for me.
It feels fake, Yes, it's not, and it's I can
have and I mean you said how I feel in
that I can have conversations like this conversation now we're having.
If we took the microphones away, I don't think I
would be able to have this intimate conversation and be

(22:37):
this vulnerable.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
If we're just sitting here talking.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
I would not be able to do that. I get
that because this microphone is here. It's not real.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
I totally get that.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Even though it's real, Yes, it's not real. I would
never be like Card, what's up. It's good to see you.
Let's talk about fat, sad, happy family even if we Nope, no,
this is the Superman cake.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yes, like events here are my hell, absolute hell. I
will be in the corner the entire time, sucking down
a drink, not talking to anyone.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Do you ever think people feel? And I asked this
because I get this about me. People feel because you're
like that that maybe you're rude. Yes, and they're like, oh,
she thinks she's too good, when in reality it's like
I don't want to bother anybody.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yes, I'm like, like I went on, this is such
a stupid story. But I went out on the road
with my friend Ella Langley. I got to open two
shows for like two weeks ago, and she let me
ride her bus. That is so nice. A lot of
people do not do that. I'm like, I'm exhausted getting
home from this because my whole like self dialogue was
am I in the way? Am I in the way

(23:41):
when they asked me to come?

Speaker 2 (23:42):
That's how I feel.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
That's literally how my brain works.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Did when when you did Kansas with US? Did did
I offer free to fly back with us?

Speaker 1 (23:52):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
I think you had too many people with enough seats
because I think I did.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
I'm sure you did, and I'm sure I was like,
what I wondered, That's what I wonder when I said
that was if you ended up because I we flew back,
and I know I was like, hey, Sae, if Carter
wants to play back with this, but then you had
a player and maybe so I was like, but even
but even then, it's like, but I feel the same way. Yeah,

(24:15):
unless I'm really close to them or I'm like supposed
to be on I totally get it because otherwise I
feel like I am just in the way. Why would
anybody want to hang out with me?

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yes? Why do we hate ourselves like this?

Speaker 3 (24:31):
It's such an insecurity though that creates what we're able
to do at the same time, So when I started
going to therapy, and when I started really getting too therapy,
I was like, I don't want to get too therapy because.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
I don't want to lose my superviow And he was like,
don't be an idiot. Don't be an idiot. He's like,
he's like, you're so broken, don't WRT about it. You're
still going to be I'm not going to be able
to fix you.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
You graduated school here, I did. Yeah, why'd you want
to quit so many times?

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Like? What was the was it to do music? Was
it you just tired to school?

Speaker 1 (24:57):
I think also when I got to town and I
was like there was a quiet confidence in me where
I was like, oh, I'm good at this. I have
to send me. So I started writing. That's another thing
about my family. My dad is like, you're gonna write
every day you're there. You're going to ask anyone who
write with you to write with you. You're gonna play

(25:18):
every show. Like that's just how their brains worke. It's business.
And so that's what I did. And eventually, like I guess,
like probably two years into being here, people like Liz
Rose were gemming me back and writing with me and
like shit like that. And so by the time I
was done with school, I had a publishing deal offer.
I was like, get me out of here. I'm ready

(25:38):
to like move on.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
When did you start to gain confidence in yourself in Nashville.
Oh was it in comparison with others? And not that
you were comparing yourself, but you would actually see other
people do their thing and go, oh, I don't feel
so small, like I can do this?

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Or did you have did you have it before you
got here.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
I think what was really momentous, what's the word monumental for.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Me was.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
There were there would be publishers that would come into
our songwriting class and listen to all our songs. And
I remember feeling like kind of outcast because I didn't
write with a lot of the other Belmont people. I
didn't like make friends in college again back to you know,
knew everyone my whole life. So when I came to college,
I was like, okay, it's I'm scared. And so I

(26:32):
would write by myself or write with people in town.
And I think it was really special for me because
pop like actual Nashville publishers would come into our class
and they would always notice me. And that was when
I would get noticed by people actually in town, and
I was like, Okay, maybe I don't have what Belmont
has right now, and I thought that was a negative,

(26:54):
but maybe I have what Nashville wants and I can
go right in town and I'm doing something right, like
I'm writing the way that actual writers write instead of
still learning, like I'm just diving into the deep end.
Because I didn't write since I was like an eight
year old writing songs like wanting to do this. I
feel like I just went in super naive and that

(27:15):
was really helpful for me. And so those publishers would
let me write with their signed writers, and people just
kind of lifted me up while I was still in school,
and I think that gave me confidence. People giving me confidence, you.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Know, Yeah, but this time doesn't give anything.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
So I would say any confidence they gave you was
earned because this is a very value based down They
must have seen value in you in some way that
you could help them in some way. They are a
couple of good wines. But this is a this is
a business. Sounds a business.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
No, I've I've learned that, so I.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Don't watch it because you're good.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
It's definitely wasn't anyone doing you any charity, but it's
people recognizing.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah, And that recognition, though, was really great for me,
just because my parents love what I write, my friends
love what I write. But who cares about that? You know?

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yeah, most parents and friends love what their friends. Right?

Speaker 3 (28:08):
What about singing? Were you were doing vocal anything in school?
I was like singing class?

Speaker 2 (28:16):
I don't know. No, do they have those?

Speaker 3 (28:19):
They have vocal classes, right, But but are they like
opera or do they have like country?

Speaker 1 (28:23):
You can major in voice at Belmont, but you have
to take opera class.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Or can you do a voice? Can you do like
country music voice? I don't think so you don't either.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
I mean, I don't know what they would teach. I
guess what are they teach in songwriting? Though they teach a.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Lot, but what do they teach in songwriting?

Speaker 1 (28:37):
We did a lot of like analyzing songs, which I
think is smarter than like being like, this is your
rhyme scheme, because that's just you know, you need to
know those rules to break them.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Rhymes rhymes dot com, rhymesone dot com. There's you go.
You're looking for a rhyme.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
If you need to be taught how to rhyme in something?

Speaker 3 (28:53):
There seriously, So you evaluate songs or not evaluate, but
you listen to songs and then try to understand what
made them, what made it good?

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Like I remember we listened to Space Cowboy by Casey
and we're just all like, this is just simple, simple, beautiful,
Like there's a complex part here, this melody here, Like
that's what we do, which I think is helpful.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
That's super cool.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Yeah, what artists do you hear? Maybe not even artists
a word. I think artists were not singers. What artists
do you hear? They kind of speak for you? And
I asked that because I always had favorite artists and
singers and stuff. But when I was in my twenties

(29:38):
or so, like John Mayer would say stuff and I
would be like, oh, I think that, Oh this is
somebody who's like songwriting my thoughts.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
I never had that happen before.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
And there are comedians that we'll say things and I'm like, oh,
I thought that. I just didn't say that in that
way nearest funny and nearest compelling as they did.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
But like there's who what artists did that for you?

Speaker 1 (29:59):
I think like Miranda Lambert that was my badass side,
you know. And then Casey Musgraves. I remember hearing Mary
go around in a Walmart parking lot and I made
us stay in the car till we listened to the
whole thing for the first time. Just people like that.
They are just talking about small town normal life because
that is what most of America is, and that's definitely

(30:22):
the life I lived, was just normal life with these
like very intense feelings that all creatives have, that all
people have. Probably, so there's definitely a lot of Casey
Miranda Pistolani's always have.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
You met Maranda?

Speaker 1 (30:35):
I have not met Miranda.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
Very guys are very similar just in Yeah, I'm lucky
enough to know Miranda relatively well at this point.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
She just seems real and very soft spoken and quiet.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Yeah, and unless she's like doing her thing that's not
her thing, Yeah, it's it's it's pretty wild because again,
she is such a freaking fire crack.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yes she is. She's I want her to like stand
up for me, you know, and I want her to
be on my mind.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
And she would, and she'd cut somebody too. But other
than that, she's just quiet Miranda who's really not going
to get in anybody's way and be a wallflower. But
as well, a lot of similarities there.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Yeah, I just like to observe and you can tell
that in her music, I think too, which is why
it's not just that badass side. It has that like
real person side too.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Congrats on signing a deal.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
When did you get that news?

Speaker 3 (31:25):
Was it a long work in progress where you kept
hoping developing with that?

Speaker 1 (31:30):
I think my long work in progress has been like
finding people on my team that I trust. So I've
gone through some managers, I've gone through some people on
my side, and so that was kind of a long
time coming. I learning how to trust people in this
business is really hard because what how.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Can I trust any of your very transactional place and
everybody's your best friend until it's not easy to be.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Your best friend, which that's business.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
And it is this but you're right, it feels very
it's very personal. It feels way more personal than it
actually is, especially at first, because I felt I fell
into those trappings at first too. I was like, oh,
this person, this is my best friend. Yes, And then
it turns out then you go.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
To all the other labels and they all have their
same fiel.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
I'm learning how to clock people quicker, which is helpful.
But I think my experience with Universal Nashville all has
to do with Hannah Wilson and Cindy. Maybe there Hannah Wilson.
I've known her since I was still at school, and
she just loved what I did and would come to
my shows and come to my c MA fest deada

(32:38):
heat show, you know that no one was there. And
then when I met Cindy, maybe she just she just
liked what I did. Like she's like, I don't need
you cutting outside songs. I like your voice. I need
your voice. I think it's important. And when you're a
songwriter that just speaks volumes. And then there's a woman there,
Chelsea Blythe who I love so much too. She's from

(33:01):
LA and she has just a whole different view on
country music, which I think we're seeing is very important.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
When you sign a deal one what does that mean? Now?
But were you nine six three months working toward this
specific deal with these specific people. Were you wondering, I
wonder if they're gonna sign me? Or was it like
a random call, Hey Carter, you want to do Yeah?
I'm all I mean, like, what is that? What is

(33:31):
that process? What's the build? It's different for everybody.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Like mine was like I met with a lot of
labels and they all act interested, you know, and then
you like keep and then you're like, dude, am I
interested in them? It is like I felt like I
was a bachelorette, you know, which is so weird. And
because I'm not this TikTok viral girl, like I don't

(33:54):
have these like crazy, They're not going to give me
like five million dollars, you know. So I'm like, they
have to care about my music and I have to
feel that well.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
They need to long term invest in you.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yes, I'm trying to do this my whole life. This
is my career. So I think I met with a
lot of LA labels, I met with a lot of
Nashville labels, and I basically at one point just told Universal,
which is this is probably bad business on my half,
but I was like, I'm only going to sign with
you guys, so it's now and never like let's go.
And it was done in like a month.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
Were other labels making you different offers or was there that?

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (34:34):
But that's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
It does mean all the offers are goodfair or yes,
but that's cool.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
No, that is really freaking cool. Like I don't know,
I'm just I'm just a girl and you guys want
to give me money to make music.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
That's pretty cool for you. Hesitant to sign at all?

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Yeah, just because I again, I don't like authority. This
is very personal to me all the things. I just
it's scary to put your like my heart and soul
in someone else's hands. That's what it truly feels like.
But I also that's what I needed to level up.

(35:11):
I thought about it a ton, and that's what I
decided I needed to get to that next level. So
I keep going.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Did you do the thing where you took the picture
with the papers in front of you? Yeah? I did.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
I was like, I was like, I expect you all.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
There, Yeah, everybody's around you, and then you take up
the picture. How long ago to take the picture?

Speaker 1 (35:27):
That was in March? I think?

Speaker 3 (35:29):
And then do you get to post it right away
or it's like we're gonna hold onto what you officially
announce it?

Speaker 1 (35:33):
I think I posted it right away.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
I also don't really ask permission for a lot of things,
so I'm just like, sorry, it's announced.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
I felt that.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
And so when you sign with the label, do they
say when if you signed, we'd love to have you.
Here is our version of a long the long term
strategy we would do with you, yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Because like an agency.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
I I switched agents recently a year and a half ago,
and I was I liked my agency CAA, but my person,
an old agent, had gotten so big in the political
world representing people that I felt a bit lost because
her specialty wasn't television, which is what I was doing.
And so she was like, I'm so I said, hey,

(36:14):
I'm gonna talk to other agencies. There's really open and honest,
and all of them were like, come to us WM ME.
It was all right, They're all like but they all
had a different version of what their offerings were. And
I ended up signing with UTA that's my agent now.
But I liked their long term and they said, okay,
look we're signing now. But in three months, six months,

(36:37):
twelve months. This is where some of them were just like,
if you signed with us, we're gonna be rocking immediately.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
And I'm like, that's kind of.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
Bull crap, Like I see you, yeah, yeah, it's like
that sounds really good, but that's kind of bull crapes.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Where's the label situation similar? And what about where you signed?
We're like, what was the plan? What did they tell you? Oh?

Speaker 1 (36:54):
My god, my favorite thing for people to say is like,
I mean, are we doing this or not? And I'm like,
we're not else. Sorry. I think the plan with them
is like I'm trying to be a big fucking deal,
you know, and I am gonna work for that and
this is what I love and I'm gonna want to

(37:15):
do that.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
Are are you going I need I need a single
out tomorrow whenever this happens, or are you going I
need you guys to let me find that that I
think is that single we need tomorrow whenever that day comes.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
I came in with an album that I wanted to record,
and so I was like, this is my album that
I want to record. I'm still writing, I write three
times a week, but I need to know that you
guys are gonna let me put out an album next year.
And because I need to put out music. I think
that's the game now, is being frequents. I need your guys'

(37:45):
help getting me on tours or just helping me get
out in front of real people stuff like that. And
I also, I feel like what I really loved about
Universal is that they just appreciate my point of view,
like they're not gonna tell me I can't say a
certain word or say something a certain way, and I'm
very clear about that in meetings. So I think just

(38:07):
I just love that they respect me and I respect them.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
Feels like that what I appreciate about you is not
what your point of view is.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Is that you have one right, Yeah, Like I don't need.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
To agree with anyone's ideas or point of view or
for art. Yeah, but I do really love when people
have one, yeah, and one that is ninety three percent
formed already. I'm always about ninety three percent. You're always changing, yeah,
a little bit right. And so do you feel like
that's what they liked about you? I think so is

(38:40):
that not so much exactly what you said and they
agree with everything about what the deep but they were like, oh,
we just like this.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
She freaking has an idea of what she wants and
who she is.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
I think. So, I mean, I'm like, I'm going to
have weekly meetings like this is what I expect.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
That's freaking awesome.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
But my parents are business people, so they're like, you
know that. I think that's why I've been successful in
a way is because I've had both those points of view.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
All right, It's a little different yeah, song a little
different for it. I mean, to me, it sounds a
little different.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
It's very different.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
What's up?

Speaker 1 (39:11):
So honestly, me and Tofer, we made like I was
talking about the album I brought to Universal that I
want to record. We had made album before that, and again,
like management switched up. I was like, I don't feel
comfortable release since as an album doesn't feel like me anymore.
But there was a lot of songs we recorded that
I really loved, and Alright was one of those. And

(39:32):
I just felt like, it's not like I'm on country
radio and I need to be any sort of thing
right now, Like I just love this song and I
want to put it out, and we say it feels
like the Willy Wonka soundtrack with like Ana del Rey vibes,
and I love both those things I love. I just
love a lot of other influences artistically than country, Like

(39:54):
I am country, but I like playing into all those
other influences as well.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
And the irony is that's most people, and the same
irony is businesses, corporations, executives don't really feel safe doing that.
Which was my struggle when I moved to town. Was
here I come, I don't wear a cowboy hat. I

(40:20):
don't have a belt buckle. And it's like I played
hip hop on my show. I did, but again, I'm
from Mountain Pine, Arkansas. Like the trade, yeah, the trailer
party like. And there's different kinds of country. There's cowboy country,
there's redneck hilberty country, which is what I was right,
white trash country, yes, And so you know, I come

(40:41):
to town but I have a background in hip hop
and pop and alternative. But I'm as country as you
could possibly be. But this town was not.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Warm to it for a long.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
Time because it was just so it was different. But
the thing was, it wasn't different. And my this is
I was like just what everybody is. Yes, and it
feels like that your story has so much parallel with that.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Is that that's what you're You're.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Sensibilities are the normal person. Yes, your country, but you
also love Landon del Ray or insert other artists.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
It's not country and you can still be country and
have all that.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
And I've seen so many female country artists talk about
being put in a box and I just don't want
to start off on that foot. I feel like I
can not be put in a box if I don't
start in the box. So that's something I'm like super
passionate about doing.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
What words to people and not want you to put
in songs what words if you put in songs, do
you have songs?

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (41:41):
But is that any Mike, Do you feel like that's
even that bad anymore?

Speaker 4 (41:43):
No? I don't think.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
I feel like I don't either, because I feel like
that it's just the vernacular. And also it's like just
Sabrina Carpenter or let's go there. Judge you as an example,
because that's a very very current example, like and please,
please please, I mean the F word, even Taylor. Yeah,
I mean they're throwing it's it's not a thing. It's

(42:06):
just a bunch of forty five to sixty year old
that wasn't a thing like that. They're like, well, we
can't do this because it was never done that way before.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
But it's just not the same anymore.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
No, And I think girl like not girls like people
my age see that, and that's how we talk.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
So I agree that I just need people who are like, Okay,
that is real, that is real.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
What's the lyric you have with the f wort in it?

Speaker 1 (42:29):
He only fucks with the strong stuff.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Like drinks or women or.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
Yeah, both the songs about both.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
What song is that strong stuff? Is that the only
song you have the effort in it?

Speaker 1 (42:40):
I say, fuck in Carolina burns too?

Speaker 2 (42:43):
What's the what's the context of that?

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Nothing sticks around like a fucked up crown?

Speaker 3 (42:48):
Do you we're either one of those songs ever going
to be and you're like whatever they call a single?

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Now? Did you make an other like another like a that's.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Another thing version. I didn't really realize that, like to
have a clean and you have to have a whole
nother master. Oh, I didn't know that you can't just
mute it or like movement. So I was like, no,
I'm not going to give you a clean version because
I can't pay for another master.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Yeah, isn't that crazy this time?

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Did you know that? I thought you or just like
mute it?

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Yeah, just mute it. And it's like point two, like
version two of the same. I know you're write three
times a week now?

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Still more?

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Yeah? Three usually is the good number.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
What are you writing about most right now? Like just conceptually?
What what what's.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
I I'm like finishing writing for this album that I'm about.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
To start, like, what emotion are you feeling? Mostly most
of your songs are even if you don't write them.
Oh yeah, most of your things are happiness, sadness, anger, jealousy,
Like where are you right now?

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Well, so I date another artist, So it's a lot
of like I love you, but we're probably not going
to end up together, you know that? Like honest feeling.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
I'm not gonna ask who if it's not known, is
it known?

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Yeah? His name? We have a song together. Okay, Okay,
his name's Tyler Halverson. He's a Texas country artist.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Let me see this guy looks like yeah, yeah, that
meet him. That's not him. I'm a different day.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
I'm a different guy.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
No as a guy who worked No, No, Tyler Halverson.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Yes, oh yeah. He's definitely got a vibe about him.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
He's on the road every weekend because he does the
whole Texas rigamarole.

Speaker 4 (44:33):
You know.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
So I'm like writing a lot about missing him and
if he's talking to hoes and shit like that.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
I like, I don't know thing about him, but we
do know I like about him. Yeah, he looks legitimate
as the artist that he is.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
He also like has a little softness like a little nerd,
like kind of like a little Yeah, there's something about
him that's not just.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Like I'm an angry cowboy and I don't know.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
There's a lot of country music right now. It feels
like just being yelled at.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Does he wre prescription glasses? Yes?

Speaker 1 (45:03):
He does.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
I like that too. I think that's why he's really
bad and kind of tell something's up there. And how
long you guys been together?

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Like a year and a half.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Going pretty good?

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Yeah, he's the best.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
He lived here, he lives here.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Yeah, he It's just nice to talk to someone about
things that they get and it's not like someone you're
competitive with.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
The Bobby Cast will be right back. M hm, this
is the Bobby Cast.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Have you had day to day changes since you've signed
a deal?

Speaker 4 (45:43):
Do?

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Is?

Speaker 3 (45:43):
I feel the same right now? But you're expecting, like
when you're done it to be different.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Yeah, it better be different, right, I'm like here, better help.
My day to day is just different because I have
to ask more people if I should do something or
ask for forgiveness if I did something wrong. So like
more I have to answer to more people. But I
guess they're kind of answering to me. That's the mindset
I'm taking.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
You have management, I do, Yeah, I'm with range, and
so did you have the whole.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
My struggle was for a long time I felt like
I was working for them, I know. And then I
was like, oh, I hope. I it took me a
long time to realize. Then I got to be like,
I have to make it like they're working for me.
Now I'm in a really good spot where we work together. Yes,
but they're not my boss. But I felt like for
a long time, like I was like, I don't want
to get in trouble with my management.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
No, I know, did you have that?

Speaker 1 (46:35):
I'm a little girl.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
You're not fooling me with that one. But yeah, because
that's a weird thing, especially if they're older than you.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
Oh yeah, I mean I think what again? What helped
me is too bad experiences with other managers. I had
to learn how to fire someone.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Okay, so you did. So you did have the struggles
early on?

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Oh yeah, pretty rough. And I had to be a
big girl and make a decision and get out of
that situation or you know all the things. So I
went into deciding who my manager would be very headstrong,
and I was just like I'm Carter Jones. This project
is Carter Faith. I want Carter Faith to be all

(47:15):
of ours. But like I'm the president.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
How long did it take you to be that?

Speaker 1 (47:23):
I started out with them like that because.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
With your current Yeah, so with the first wed no,
oh my god, and don't say who it is or
anything like no, no, but where And in my mess
ups too, and some of them were my fault.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
I didn't know I did things wrong.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
Yeah, oh my god. I think you probably have experiences.
I think everyone has. Like assuming someone's on the same
page as you is my biggest mistake.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
Mine also is assuming they're doing as much work and
is caring as much as I am.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
They're not, and they're not.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
And and and the actualization is, of course they're not.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Of course they're not.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Of course they're not.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
But they weren't doing it even as much as I
thought they should have anyway. Yeah, so I had to
go first of all, no one's gonna work as hard
for me as me, because.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
I'm the only I'm the only me. Yes, however, they're
not doing crap, I.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Know, like separating that is a thing. Yeah, and yeah,
just in this business, everyone has their own opinions. It's
like everything is taken personally at a time.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
You know, did you ever read the Four Agreements?

Speaker 1 (48:35):
No?

Speaker 3 (48:35):
Very in Uh, it's it's it's so easy. It's like
a very very very thin book. You can read it
in an hour. But when you say that, I usually
read it once a year. And one of them is
don't take anything personal in business. It's very very hard
for me to do because I'm so insecure, which creates
wild competitiveness that I take everything personally and want to

(48:58):
burn everyone down because they're my end, the me.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
If we're not the same, we're not.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
No one can have it but me, absolutely yes.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
And anybody I've ever competed against, I hate them. And
then I realize, as I get older, maybe I don't
have but I do have that, and I still have
that emmy that have to fight sometimes. But the Four
Agreements is tremendous because it is just like the whole
section of it is, don't take anything personal in business
because they're not doing it to be personally, and if

(49:25):
they are, that's a different situation.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
But I had to.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
Learn that, and that's tough because I took everything personal
and business because business was so personal to me, yes,
And it's gotta be personal to you because you're right,
so much of what you do is personal, like what
you're writing about, like your product is personal.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Yes, I'm like, don't disrespect my art. This is like
my child, you know.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
And to them, it's not their child. It's business and
you know what, that's what they're supposed to do. They're
supposed to see it like business. Yes, yes, And it's
finding that right dynamic.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
And I feel like I've found that, like range is
so my current managers, they're so professional in that way
it's business, but they respect me as a person and
an artist and a creative and that's like, I don't know,
that's just hard to find. But I think also everyone's
it's like a relationship, Like everyone's dynamic is going to
be different.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
Cherry Valley Show.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Yes, yeah, so there's more to come on what that means.
But basically, I just wanted to put together a show.
That's the only headline show I've ever done headline, and
I just wanted to sing with my friends and my band.
I just put together an awesome band that I love
and they're some of my closest friends, and I just

(50:35):
wanted to put out a show in Nashville where my
family could come, my friends could come, to be honest,
and I think I want to do some more of
those because it was just awesome and fun.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
I love Ashley Monroe.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Yes, she's like my sister.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
Did we talk about Carter when Ashley was here at all?
I think so. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
I've known Ashley for a long mess. And I was
telling Ashley because there were there were a few years
we didn't talk and actually got sick for a while,
and and we didn't talk because for any we didn't
talk because we weren't.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
Talking, but just grow marriage all for her.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
But what I was telling her was, I know we
haven't talked in a long time, but I don't feel
like we haven't talked. Like That's how much I like
value her.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
She's like a spiritual person to me, for sure.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
Lucas Nelson. I met Lucas in California, and I knew
of his music and I will listen to it a
little bit, and then I knew it was in the real,
the whole deal, and we were at he plays golf.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
He's a big golfer.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
I don't think I knew that.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
Yeah, So we were at the Pebble Beach pro am,
and both of us were two of the celebrities there
by exactly.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
We're wildly famous.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
And Lucas is friends with one of my friends, and
so we kind of were in the group together.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
And the first night of.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
The event, they everybody that has like a skill or
a talent goes up and it's just entertaining.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
That's fun.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
So, you know, so he gets up by a couple
of songs and make gets up and so Lucas, I
want to go.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
I'll go up and do some songs. And so he
goes up for like threes.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Oh my god, right, Oh it's completely different.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Oh my god. It was like my wife and I
were like, what just happened?

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Here comes out of him. It's pretty crazy to watch.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
And so An he's such a lovely, kind guy. Because
then after that we got to know him more because
that was just like he was so good and they
weren't Alanda giants. We get to see great people all
the time. We lived where everybody great comes. And still
it was like when I watched Lucas play, I was
like this, there's an.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
That's an alien. Yeah, that's an So how do you
know Lucas So.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
There's this house in West Nashville. I guess, I guess
I shouldn't say where.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
It is, but it's a pretty large area.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Yeah, it's pretty pretty large area. It's this old house.
It's kind of falling apart, but a lot of people
I know live in it. That's how I met my
boyfriend because he used to live there. Ashley has a
writing spot there, Lucas Uh. That's where his Nashville spot is.
Meg McCree, Ben Chapman. A lot of hippies called the
Hippie House, so they all write there. So I just
would go over there all the time, and it's like

(53:14):
feels like the seventies. You're like, there's back porch, we're
all smoking on and hanging out. And I think that's
just the type people I gravitate towards. Like I love
that you said alien, because there's a lot of creative
people in this town. But I really gravitate towards people
who are like it's bleeding out of them and like
they have to do this because it's in them, not

(53:36):
just for any other reason. And so that's how I
met him. We I think, honestly, I was writing upstairs
with Ashley Monroe and Connie Harrington and Lucas knocked on
the door to see if we had coffee or something,
and he was holding a guitar and just sat down
started writing with us. It's the first time I met him.
By the end of the song, we're like, oh, you
weren't even in here before. But it's just that, like

(53:59):
the inertia of creativity is always in that house, which
is cool.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
Another person that played I'm talking about the last show
that I think is so special and lover and I
would take a pellot for her, not a bullet, Not.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
A bullet pellet, a Pellett paintball.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Is Jillian Jacqueline. Yes, like and Jill. I took Jillian
to a bunch of shows with me, like two tours ago.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Yeah, because I think I when I was going out
with you, I asked her about it. She's like, he's
the best.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
Oh good, yeah, yeah, not creepy at all.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
He's like, She's like, he's super mean.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
Well, I just would also get like, not me, I don't.
I mean, I don't get this, but I that's good.
The people you can ask because this sounds weird, man. Yeah,
It's like some dudes like, hey, come and yes, you know, yeah,
so I know.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Yeah, so, but you're not creepy. I'm not. I don't
think I'm creepy at all.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
So thank you for validating my thought that I am
not creepy.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
But yeah, Jillian is really amazing.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
She's awesome, and she's an unreal songwriter and she's still
sister in law's right. So it's just that God love
incest Well.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
They don't do it, yeah, but that it's incestual, but
not really, not like Arkansas, not like where I'm from,
where we do it with our family.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
Yeah, exactly, exactly. That's how you got here.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Exactly how else would I be here? You know what
school is.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
I do know you, and I've seen you play and
I've heard your voice. Not interesting voice, but i've heard
your voice. What you speak for, what you speak at.
People are going to love you. It's just a matter
of time, and it's the strategy of what you're deciding,
what your label decides. It's like, people are going to
love you. There are certain people that I meet in
this town. What's two stories and just pops into my head.

(55:47):
One ell I was on the show yesterday. We haven't
aired it yet, but she when that song sharted to
blow up, and they weren't like put a radio. I
just started playing it because I was like, that's a
good song and I love.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Its different exactly, like thank you for giving us something different.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
It's awesome exactly. And I was like, this is fun
and really good.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
Yeah, because of course she's talking in it, but then
the chorus it's great. And so I played the song
and it's not like I found the song it blew up,
but I started playing the song a little bit and
I was like, let's get her up here. And so
she came up and Riley was up with her yesterday too, but.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Some real she has texture about her.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
Yeah she's a bad ass, yes, and real country girl right.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
There, and like said stuff, Yeah, she's smart.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
And there's a difference in coming in and doing a
fine interview and answering questions and saying things then coming
in and she just was like this is why I am.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
I'm just gonna I'm just gonna say stuff. And she
wasn't worried about it like it was. That was refreshing
and the first time I'd ever met her.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
She's a refreshing person.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
And when you mentioned her earlier, I was like pen
I'm gonna come back to that because she but she
and I'm gonna put you guys in a category here.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
I didn't know her.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
She had the song blow Up somebody that I met
probably seven years ago, and I've been a diehard fan
of her as a creative and she's just now starting
to pop and she was on my show today.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
We recorded with her is Cassie Ashton.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
Love and seven years ago, I'm like.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Thank you for all catching on right, It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
I was so blown away by her then and I
would have her coming. She'd play with Ryan and she
played shows with me, and I would be amazed that
nobody else was so amazed.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
She was a huge deal. I would be like, how
are people missing this?

Speaker 1 (57:36):
I don't get that?

Speaker 3 (57:37):
And but now she performed today and again she's now
she's got to she's it's hitting for her. And I
just always felt like, I don't know what the wind
needs to be like, but people are going to love
her because she's She's definitely different.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
Yes, she is herself, and.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
That's that's the that's the vibe that I get from you,
not just today but in general. Because we've been able
to spend a little bit of time together, people are
going to love you, and I hope it's in eight months,
twelve months.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
I hope it's on that level. You're already growing your.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
Base, and if it's not eight months or twelve months,
it's going to be. At some point people are going
to love you. There's only a few people that I
feel that way about. I'm excited for you.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
It's super cool. And when people meet you either are like, oh,
like Carter Wosh, she's really white. Then all of a
sudden you slice them and dice them and then you
fire them, and then they're like, I don't work for you,
Like you're fired anyway.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
You know, she's hardcore that.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
McDonald's you're fired, bitch.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
How did you and to for meet?

Speaker 1 (58:33):
We met at a wedding actually this there's a videographer
company called Running Bear and one of the it's brother's
sister duo and the girl's name is Alexa and she
got married and we were sat next to each other
at a table and I was like stoned and didn't

(58:53):
know anyone feeling weird, and he was just I mean,
you know, tofer. He talked to me right off the bat,
and I'm an. I feel like we were like brother
sister in a past life or something, because he just
feels like family. And ever since then, we've just been
writing together. I think that was three years ago, and
I don't know. It is stuff like that where I
look back and I'm like, I thought I had it

(59:14):
figured out writing wise before I met Tofer and not
that like he's made me the writer I am. But
all the things that happen past the point where you
thought you were ready is how you actually get ready
for a moment, I think. And so I'm like, it
can take another year, that's fine with me, but I'm
I'm like getting ready for the moment. You know this.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
What's funny is in five years, you're gonna look back
and go and I thought, I know what I was
talking about, fib, but you should always be like that.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Yeah, I mean it's I.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Saw some quote. I don't I'm not gonna say the
quote right, but it was like, your art isn't real
enough if you're not embarrassed by it a year later.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
That's exactly like I hate watching listening to anything I've
ever done. I won't be watching the because I'm good.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
No, it makes me cringe if I watch like even
something old of me on TV from a year two
years ago, but then I can then I appreciate that
because that means that I feel like I must have
grown beyond what that is.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Yeah, because I don't want to be the person that's
like I killed that every time. I mean sometimes you're
like I always.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
Want to kill it right then, but like a year later,
I should be like, you know what, I'm better than
that now.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
I should be that way.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
That's my goal always. I'm trying to only be competitive
with myself.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Nowadays, Yeah, I wish that would my goal.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
I still want to kill everybody. There's some people I'm
just like I got. I'm not going to mention any
names here. I would tell you off off, Mike, But
I got a certain artist called the request line this
morning to fight.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Me, to fight you, to be like he's pissed.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
No, no to me, he was pissed at something. I
like that accurate, Yeah, I mean fight.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
He didn't want to.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
He probably would have come to punch me in the
It's well known to Yeah, I don't have a great
relationship with them, and we've him and we've publicly not
had a great relationship we've gone at huh, I bet
you don't give me give me one letter in the
first name.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
I don't even said, don't do first letter. Y oh no, no, no,
we had at different that's a funny.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
Story, and that's a great that's an awesome story.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
No, No, this person is like current current ish.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
I'll tell you rafter and you might even be friends
with them, and that's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Yeah, probably not, Mike, you think, I don't think so.
I don't think she is either. She's too cool.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
But I this person had done some things that I
did not feel were I don't like how some things
were handled professionally, but they were personally professional, meaning that
he dick me over in a way that and then
no apology and then just like we're gonna a.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Total blowoff, like it was no respect.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
I shouldn't say it was a very and I might
have been on stage made some jokes that were quite funny,
and then they may have come back, and they might
have come back at me on social media and I
might So it's we've gone back and forth and I
said yesterday on the show, and we can uh bleep

(01:02:24):
this part, Mike. I'm just gonna say for context, and

(01:03:00):
we'll end with this because I could do this for
two hours, so you just like talk about stuff. I
also have people here, and I've been here now long.
I've been here longer than you. I'm older than you.
But I had a very similar experience in getting here
and being a bit different and going through the process
of people not understanding me at all. Yes, and I'm like,

(01:03:21):
I'm pretty nice and like I'm I'm kind.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
Of cool and I'm not going to make you understand me.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Yeah, it's just right.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
And so I was like, I'm not I'm just decided
I'm not going to be friends with any artists because
I want to always be able to say my opinion.
Like that was my point. Don't want to be friends
with no one. I don't trust them anyway. No artists
are I can be friends with. However, there were a
few that I'm like, they're like my best friends because
they wore me down and I had to start to realize,
you know what, I can't think everybody's a douchebag.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
Yeah, but it's good to be skeptical.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
I'm totally a skeptical yeah, all the time. But there's
a few that have broken through where I'm like, they're
really great people, so I would like to encourage you
have a few.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
It's not like I have a few.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
In the industry's weird though, because you never quite know
what's up with them, Like what I just felt like
somebody was using me for something.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
They are right until you get to that point where
they are like we're just humans.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
Right, or they're they have I'll be very general, they
have more than I do in this area, so they
don't need me, Like that was a big deal.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Yeah, that's probably nice.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
Like one of my dearest friends not a bullet, take
a really strong pellet for.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Is Brett Eldridge.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
He's super anxiety written like I am. We're totally weirdos
we get scared of him. Tickets on ons that were like,
are you being going to sell to anybody? Like, well,
they like us tomorrow, but I wouldn't, you know, But
like I trust that guy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
I got a couple of those, So I hope you
have a couple of those, because you need a couple
of those.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
I do. I've lost a few, but you get one.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
And my point with Brett was he didn't need me.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
He had so many more he doesn't need he needs nothing.
From me except friendship.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
And that's what it should be about.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Yeah, it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
Though it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
I don't even try to reader Mike and they're.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
Sitting Okay, So here's what I want to say. Instagram
at Harder Faith, TikTok at Carter Faith. All right, the
aftermath it's on ten twelve, So one two Jennifer March, April, May,
jun July, Augustber October. So Mike, when this comes out,
it won't be October twelve yet, is it?

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
No? Not yet? Okay, so week before so in like
a week, Yes, we'll try. I know the aftermath. I've
not heard it aftermath.

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
So that will be out. You're out doing shows. You
do some Carly stuff, some Midland stuff, You're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
Some loot grime stuff this fall that'll be announced, and
just festivals, random stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Do you have merch?

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
I'm making merch because I love merch.

Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
Well, I was going to say too, that's a great
way to support an artist that you like if they're
not headlining shows, is to buy their merch.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
Yes, please buy my merch I'm going to bring in.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
When she makes it. Please buy her merch.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
It'll be cute, I promise.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Well, I don't want it. Then I needed likely no
not ugly, no like next no, no like normal, straight
to ugly.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
I was like, I don't want it cute.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
She's like, yeah, definitely, we'll make it at your face
ugly it is.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
I really enjoy you. Yeah, you really enjoy you too.
That's really cool. Yeah, that's really cool. And I'm rooting
for you.

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
And whenever you're ready ready, like and it's that you're
you guys are going because you've been on.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
The show, but but that doesn't count.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
Whenever it's like real time and you're like, we're taking
this to whatever you're up immediately perfect, so.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
You will be there. I will.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
I will make sure of it, or I will cancel
you from this town because I have that power. No,
if I don't, this not be half dead. All right,
Carter Faith, and go at Carter Faith. Good to see Carter,
Thanks for

Speaker 4 (01:06:45):
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