Caitlin Lost a Bet, Now She's a Guest! + How Their Marriage Has Helped Their Lives & The Existence of Aliens and Ghosts + Bobby Does an Honest Q&A

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
All right, welcome to the podcast. At the end of
this we went live on YouTube. We're going to place
some of that before my wife came in. But my
wife lost a bet to me, and so she hasked
to do some podcast episodes, and this will be the
first one that you do. And so thank you for
paying that your debts to the bet. That's pretty awesome.
I don't even know what we bet. It was so
long ago. I do not know what we bet.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Dude, I don't either.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
So I have a lot of questions and you can
answer them with me. I said, Hey, ask me your
questions on Instagram for this podcast. Number one, why do
you believe in aliens but not ghosts? Interesting? Okay, I
think they could be the same thing. I think aliens
and ghosts could actually be the same thing. There's nothing

(00:49):
that says they're not. I think the term aliens is
a bit weird because when we think aliens, we think
little green men. And mostly it's not that I do
believe in aliens, it's that I don't not believe in
aliens because it is so vast. There is absolutely no
way we have even an ounce of understanding of what

(01:09):
is beyond what we know, and we know so little.
So my point is that how can you say there
isn't something when you have no idea what even there is? So,
if there are aliens, weird term for it because we
associate that with movies Little Green men. To say there's

(01:32):
not is meaning that to me means that you don't
believe much more than what you can see or than
what you've been told is real. So do I believe
in aliens? I don't know. No, But do I believe
that there's not aliens? No, that's my answer. It's ghosts,
could be aliens.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Well, I'm confused.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
You do believe there are aliens and you don't believe
there a ghosts or you believe there's both, or they're
the same thing.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Thank you for asking it. I believe make it quick.
Well that's a problem here. I can't. I can't make
it quick. I believe for us to say there's no
chance there's aliens would be extremely ill educated based on
everything we've learned about what we don't know. We only know.

(02:24):
We barely know what's more than our soli system. They're
ten billions solar systems. There's so many socialsm we have
a number for it. And for us to go we're
for sure there are no aliens Like that to me
seems crazy now to have ever met alien? What I
bet money I'm going to meet an alien? No, I never,
I don't think so. Yeah. So I'm not going to
argue that there are aliens, But anyone that says they're not,

(02:45):
I question their sanity because how can you say there's
not something when we have no idea what's beyond what
we know? We know very little. Ghosts in the traditional sense,
I do not believe in ghosts.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Because how does your logic not apply to this as well?

Speaker 1 (03:01):
But it does, And that's where in the traditional sense,
I don't believe. I've in aliens like just being around
here a chillin coming buy spaceships that we would be
able to see, yeah, because I think they'd be so
far advanced. If they didn't want to see them, we
would never see them. Same thing with ghosts, like unless
a ghost is an alien, because that could be the
thing we just assigned them with what we've put into
movies as a ghost, like we could see like a

(03:23):
little person I'm scary, but that actually could be an
alien or somebody from the past or the future. Maybe
that's what aliens are, people from the future that all
these theories.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah, my beef with aliens is just I think from
Hollywood and how they always portray aliens to be so
much smarter than.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Us, But they would have to be to get here.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Maybe, how do you know?

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Otherwise how would they be doing what we have no
capabilities to do because we have no capability to get
anywhere like we got.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
I mean, maybe they have like a better elon Musk,
But I don't think that every single alien you encounter
is going to be smarter than every single human on
the in it.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
I could co sign that if it were, some elements
of aliens weren't as smart as what we are. But
in order for their technology to get them to do
things we have no comprehension of how to do. We
can't even get a person to the next planet.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
How do you know?

Speaker 1 (04:18):
How do I know?

Speaker 4 (04:19):
What?

Speaker 1 (04:19):
How do you know?

Speaker 2 (04:20):
We haven't gotten a person to the next planet.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
I just read people that I trust the same thing
about medicine, I just listen to my doctor.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah, but you obviously hidden from us.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah, but we've never seen of Mars. We can't sad knowledge,
but we can't spend send anybody to the moon again
to your knowledge.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
But I'm just saying if you say we can't know
anything that we don't know, then I think that applies
to pretty much everything.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
So we can wrap this podcast up.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
All right, that's it for us. We thank you very much.
We love you guys, have a great day. Uh. So
I could believe in ghosts if it wasn't a non
traditional sense of people saying that I'm in a haunted
house with people are murdered and there are people shape
can change.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Like, that's the version that I struggle with, because again,
that's Hollywood. It's the same thing with the aliens. That's Hollywood. Yeah. Yeah,
are there things we'll just assign the term ghost to them. Yeah. Probably.
I do believe in ghosts, But do I believe it
in the traditional sense of like, it's our dead people
that used to be on this planet now walking around
to like scare us or give us a good old
kick in the pants. Probably no, No, probably not. Hey,

(05:24):
but if you were to say, don't call it a ghost,
call it a multi dimensional being that has an understand
I would be like, Okay, now we're talking. Now, I
can't prove it's real. But I definitely would not argue
against that. My ghost arguments are always when people are like,
this hotel's haunted. Yeah, no it's not. Yeah, I've stayed

(05:45):
in the hotel seven times.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Sounds like our issues are with Hollywood.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
I think. Yeah, sounds like our issues are with what
our entertainment culture has told us and have shaped our expectations.
So yeah, aliens and ghosts, let's go. Let's party. Okay.
But just like dogs can see things, we can't again
because they have different cones in their eyes, or birds

(06:09):
can hear things we can't because I'm sure there are
things living around us that we have no idea. We
do not have the capability to see field touch understand.
I'm sure of it, except I can't.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Be sure of I'm feeling deja vous from last night
and we had the same exact cors.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
I love it. We went to went to dinner last
night with a couple of friends, Ben Rector, who is
a dear friend who's been on this podcast many times.
We had not seen each other as our family their family,
and went to dinner. And you want to get two
nerds going, and you guys were very they are going.
You guys are very gracious to even acknowledge that we're
not unhealthily obsessed with something that will get us nowhere

(06:47):
in life.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah, I could get you somewhere.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Not us though, because we spent probably forty minutes talking
about simulation theory. Yeah, let's story all that, dude. We're
then my theories on what happens when you go to
sleep and it's all stupid, right.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Next question, yes, but yeah, yeah, that's what we did.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Okay, next up, when is your committelanspirational show coming to
us a streaming platform? So here's where we are on that.
I've had some financial offers on it that have been good.
I don't think we've e't been talked about this. I've
heard murmurs, but it's never gotten to the point where

(07:29):
we're close to it. We've had financial offers that have
been good. We've had something that's been great, but on
platforms that I'm like, nobody even goes there totally. We've
had some that have been not that great on platforms
where some people go. But the question that my agent

(07:53):
just presented me and I would be interested to hear
your thoughts on this actually today because we talked about
this today because this is a very recent thing. He
was like, if you're so obsessed with growing your specific
YouTube channel, he said, take ego out of it. But
that's a big part of it, right, he said, why

(08:14):
don't you just put it on your YouTube channel? And
if you're obsessed with growing that, like, nothing grows that
more than original content that's good, different and specific. And
I think I had a hard time with that, and
I think I was a little insulted by it.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
A lot of people are putting their specials on YouTube,
Like I heard a Nick Swardson podcast, but.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
He's a real one. What do you mean, Like Nick
Swartson is actually a comic and he's funny.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
And Okay, well, if he's putting it on YouTube, then
why is that insulting to you? If real comics that
are good are doing.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
That, because they're already considered real comics. I think, to me,
it's like I can put anything on YouTube, so I'll
put this on. I'm just the same person that nobody
wanted to put their thing. Like it's an insecurity thing
where if like somebody bigger is like, oh we want
you on ours, then I feel like, oh I actually
did something good. Then the second one, I would have
I put it on YouTube. But if I'm like, hey,

(09:08):
watch the stage show I did because it's a comedy,
but it's also inspirational. It's on a straight ahead comedy special.
If it goes straight to YouTube, it's like, well, it
looks like nobody wanted.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
It, But why do you care?

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Because I'm really insecure.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Because you need the validation. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah. And if Amazon, which is somebody that we had
been talking with a bit, if they put it on
in my unhealthy, wildly insecure, ego driven self, even if
nobody watched it, I could be like, yeah, my comedy
special on Amazon, and there would be to me, again,

(09:55):
very surface. This was very reactionary of me to think
and feel this way. To me, that would be better
than putting it on YouTube and a million people watch it.
But people can watch anything on YouTube. It's anybody can
put stuff on YouTube.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Okay, So you're so I think it. Take a step
back and think about the goal. Is the goal for
as many people possible to see it? Or is the
goal for you to finally be convinced that you've done
something that's worth something.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
I now question the goal, okay, because I think Initially
it was the first one, and the closer I get
to we get to actually deciding where it's going to go,
I'm feeling more and more like it's the second one,
which I would I don't want for myself to feel
that second way.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
And if you do, that's okay.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
But I think that let's say it does get picked
up by Amazon and then they comp our prime membership,
that'd be nice. It's just going to be another thing,
right Like, it's just going to be the next project,
and then you're going to need validation from that. I
don't think that that cycle is ever going to end,
So I just maybe let's.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
I've never had any winning Yeah, yeah, it's definitely an
inward thing. I also can acknowledge it is. It is
a complete insecurity issue. I've not had any success in
the comedy space on a national, like mass media level, right,
Like shows sell out and they do great, and I
sell a whole lot of tickets, but nobody knows that, right,

(11:22):
I guess I need people to know that, and so
me just going straight to YouTube where it feels like
a loss because I can put anything on YouTube. I
can just take my shirt off, push record and recreate
every Dancing with the Stars dance and that's also on
YouTube by myself, and it feels like that a little bit.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Okay, I understand that, I understand what you're saying. I'm
sad that that's how you feel, but I understand what
you're saying me too a little bit. Yeah, And this
reminds me I don't I don't like podcasting because I
feel like there are so many there's just certain things
that I don't want to say. But there have been
instances in your career over the past several years where

(12:06):
there it has been something similar.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
To this where.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
If you did this thing to everyone looking at it,
watching it, viewing it, they would think it's amazing. But
because of some small inside baseball thing you have in
your head, it's a failure to you. And I just
wish that you could see it from the perspective of, oh,
look at all these people that are viewing this art

(12:33):
or listening to this art or whatever I did, and
they're enjoying it, versus I don't know.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
I just think you're too in it.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
You're too like in the conversations and negotiations and all
this stuff, and I wish you'd just kind of let
your agent and your managers handle it. You know too much,
You know too many details about what's going on.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
I think because I had to do it by myself
for us such a long time, it's hard for me
to let it all go. Yeah, because I had to
do at all. I haven't had do it all in
a long time. But I don't think that that changes
like my desire or my need to know what's going on.
So I'm not getting yeah, taken advantage of.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
It's not good for your mental health.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
I agree with that, but I also can see where
it is not good for my mental health to go
because my feelings were hurt whenever he suggested, if you're
so dead set on growing your YouTube, which I think
is a great thing to do, why don't you just
put this there because people will go to it.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Right, So, he wasn't saying, hey, you know, we've actually
winds out, nobody wants this, let's put it on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
He's like, hey, this is an asset.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
He absolutely was not, And he had told me two
days ago, one day or even yesterday, had had shared
with me the financial offers that were semi significant, and
some of them were in places where people aren't going
to see it, and then some that where the offers

(14:00):
were not good, where people would probably at least have
the opportunity to get it, and both were like, okay,
at least they want it. Then he's like, or you
could put it on YouTube, and I like was like,
like like hurt a little bit, like it was insulted
a little bit, And he wasn't meaning it to be insulting,
of course, not if anything. He was like, if you're
doing all this to do that, why not put this

(14:21):
there yea and continue to build that. And he said,
you know other comics, but I'm like, I am not
a comic that has the credibility to go. If I'm
a least special on YouTube, you should check it out.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
But right, and I think that that's also an important point,
is that you aren't a comic.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Oh no, I've done a lot of comedy.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
But but I.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Think that you try to be the number one in
all these different categories instead of just like being you.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
I think I'm me in all these categories. I do
a whole lot of categories, and I'm like a seven
out of ten. I think I'm a seven out of
ten and like a lot of things, but I think listen,
did I come up in the traditional comedy like some
of the people that I know that won through No,
not at all. But have I done a lot of
stand up shows and a lot of Yeah, I mean
I think I'm a I don't even know if I

(15:10):
would say comedian. I think I do comedy though.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
But it's fair to say that you're special.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
The special, the thing that you've been working on, it's
not strictly comedy.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
No, I would say it's fifty percent comedy.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Right, So it feels like your comps are a little off, right,
Like you're comparing this thing that you've done to a
standard comedy special and saying that it needs to be
on the streaming platform because you want it to be
comparable to these different specials.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
But it's not like that. It's different. I think it's
it's more.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yeah, I just I just my irrational brain. My response was, Oh,
that hards my feelings because anybody can put anything on YouTube,
and that's where you want me to put it.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah, well, I'm sorry that hurt your feelings.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
I it was me hurting my own feelings.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Right, but that still sucks.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah, So I have to decide what I'm going to
do with that because we have to put it out.
We shot it a year ago. Yeah, I mean I've
got my tooling about the Friends finale. It's that old.
Wait a year ago? Really a year and a half ago? Dang? Okay, right,

(16:18):
because last November I think was like the end of
the tour.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, that sounds right.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
So, and we've had it done for a while. We
just didn't really know what we were going to do
with it. Okay, let's see what else.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Also, if I'm making no sense, I'm so cold in here.
My teeth are chattering, Like I'm I'm that level of
cold where you get angry.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Do you know what I'm talking about? Read? You can
fix the air?

Speaker 2 (16:42):
I didn't want to mess with your thing, But.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
It's it's over by the golf simulator, Like is he
back there behind it? If you want else to check
it out? But I wouldn't know where it was. One
day I looked around forever for it to could have
find it. Yeah, would you mind turning? We keep it
cold in here because the equipment of the lights.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
Yeah, my brain's not working because I'm just shivering.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Okay. Question what is your favorite childhood TV show? You
want to answer? That one for you before I answer
it for me.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Oh, you probably have a better answer. Off the top
of your head.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Childhood TV show or all time TV show all time
would be The Office be number one. The Walking Dead
for like four or five seasons was like the best
show ever, big zombie guy, I love it. Find it?
What was it on eighty? Ohn' that cold child? Yeah?

(17:32):
What is it on? Now? It was on cool Now.
I put it on Heat sixty nine. Okay do you
think he did that? Yeah? Okay, no, that's it's good. Okay, Okay.
Childhood TV show, though I don't razorback sports. I don't
think I had a like I loved Friends when then.
But I think my favorite all time show is The Office,

(17:52):
and some of that was Younger twenty Days. Okay, did
you have favorite childhood show?

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Childhood TV show? I can't.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
I can't remember a favorite. I mean I watched a
lot of like Full House reruns seventh heven.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
You hit me with the reruns part because I watched
a buch of Full House. Yeah, but not the reruns
o G. Yeah, seventh Heeven your parents will let you
watch seventh teven?

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah, it was about Heaven.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
I'm kidding. Yeah, it was good.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Step by step.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
No, yes, but reruns, it had to be rerun.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, yeah, that was a good one. I don't know,
I don't know what I watched really.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
What about music? Uh? Primarily Christian for quite a while?
What ages were you only Christian music?

Speaker 3 (18:44):
When did you get to when my parents could pick
the music? It was mostly Christian or sports talk radio
sooner sports radio or Oklahoma Base for sure, yeah, for sure.
And then country as well, Like once I started to
right around my brother, my brother, my older brother, he
would listen to country music, so we would listen. I

(19:05):
mean I listened to country music, but really it was
it was mostly Christian.

Speaker 5 (19:09):
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Speaker 1 (19:13):
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Speaker 5 (19:20):
This is the Bobby Cast.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
What artists come to mind? Who did you hear the most? Like,
give me three? Smell like burning it because turn the heat.

Speaker 6 (19:30):
On in a while.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
I mean that bad smells.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
It smells like bad Totino's pizza. You know how it
falls from the crust down on the bottom of the oven. Literally,
that's what that shout out Totino's pizza because I love you.
But the crust would fall the bottom and then burn
if you didn't put it on the or you didn't
put it on a tray. That's what that smells like,
and you probably wouldn't. I would never put and you
would open on my oven and it's all covered in
like crust residue because I would never clean it either.

(19:58):
So you felt that read you still live the life
of a single I mean, like I wouldn't. Nobody lives
the life one. That's true.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Now.

Speaker 7 (20:08):
I mean I would eat like frozen pizzas, and then
it got to the point where every frozen pizza tasted
burnt because I wouldn't clean the crumbs and it was
just mounding up down there.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
It would take on the generations from the past.

Speaker 6 (20:19):
That's exactly sweet.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
Yes, who are the artists you think I would listen
to a Christian Christian artist as a kid.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Oh? Chris Tomlin. We saw him reading lunch a few
weeks ago. He came up and said, Hie, that was awesome.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
That was awesome, Chris Tomlin, like Point of Grace. No band,
it's a band? Three yeah, some girls? Uh avalon Jackie Velsquez.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
I don't know what about Like, uh is Carmen too old?

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yeah? I don't know Carmen. Yeah, of course, just between
you and me something to say.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
No and you you also like that? But who is that?
That's because Jars of Clay is.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Flood right, which is your other song that you go to.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Rain, rain on my face, housing, stop raining for days?
My world is a flood right right now? That one.

Speaker 6 (21:21):
I haven't heard that one a long time.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
He knew it? Yeah, just between did you look it up?

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Did you want me to look it up?

Speaker 1 (21:28):
Yeah? Because I know it. I'm having a little brain
fog right now, you too. I guess something yours just
because it's cold, me because it now it smells like burnt.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Let's just call this episode brain fog, just between you
and me.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Okay, here we go.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
I got it.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Oh DC talk, Oh my gosh, yes, of course, d
C talk, of course.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
In DC Talk, Toby Matt Yeah, uh okay, thank you
for that.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
You're welcome. Where music question.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
I have a lot of questions, but it's they're coming in.
They're coming in so fast. Do you want another one?

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Maybe that's the burning smelter phone.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
You can answer this. When did you and Kaitlyn move
to your new house? And did you guys have it built?
You can answer how were you like?

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Okay, we moved to our new house about a year
and a half ago at this point, and what was
the second part?

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Did we have it built?

Speaker 1 (22:33):
The question was, and did you guys have it built?

Speaker 3 (22:36):
It was about seventy percent of the way done when
we purchased it, so we did not have it built.
But we came in while it was being built, which
I found to be just the best possible scenario because
because we still got a new house, but we didn't
have to go through the construction part of it. I

(22:58):
didn't have to make a lot of decisions and I'm
so indecisive, So uh yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
It was pretty great.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
I have a question for you, Okay, how am I
supposed to like as a person, Sabrina Carpenter?

Speaker 3 (23:14):
How are you supposed to like as a person Sabrina Carpenter.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yes, when I was conditioned to not like Sabrina Carpenter
early on from Olivia Rodrigo, because if you remember when
that song comes out from Olivia Rodrigo and she's like,
I'm driving down street familiar, what's.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
It driver's license?

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Yeah, yeah, I'm familiar, And I'm like, whoever did Olivia
Rodrigo wrong? I don't even know who Olvia Rodriguez. Yet
I just said this song it turns out of a
Sabrina Carpenter. It turns out so they had a beef
because she stole his boyfriend.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Not Steel, not Steel.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
I think that it was a clean breakup, but then
she started dating Olivia Rodrigo's ex boyfriend.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
But then why was she mad at Sabrina Carpenter If
it was a clean breakup.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
She wasn't.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
I don't think she was mad at Sabrina Carpenter. In fact,
Driver's License wasn't really even about Sabrina Carpenter. There was
just one line I think about her being a girl,
being blonde and older.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
That's Sabrina Carpenter.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Right, But the song wasn't about Sabrina Carpenter, and it
certainly wasn't like mean to her. I think that. Then
the fans took that narrative and attacked consider me a
fan of Olivia Rodrigo.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Well, I didn't know. She wasn't, But I was like,
whoever it is?

Speaker 3 (24:26):
I was gonna say, because I bet you can't name
another Olivia Rodrigue.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
You're out of your mind song I can name.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
I can sing along with like ten sing along maybe,
But name a song.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Drive a License Part two, No learners permit. No, it
is such a thing CDL. She has all these songs
about things you need to drive certain things. Yeah, Vampire,
if you gave my brain fog, I could probably name five. Though,
why do we have such brain fog? Molden? We ever
think you ever think there's like carbon monoxide in there?

Speaker 2 (24:56):
I think I have parasite in my brain or something.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
You think you have a parasite all the time. Everything
I do have parasites. No, but you're like everything's a parasite,
Like if you're obsessed with parasites.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
I'm obsessed with getting rid of them.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
But then I would I would leave thank you? What
song vampire? Obviously? How does that one go?

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Leave me dry? Like a GD vampire?

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Oh yeah, that's a good one. You know you know
that song read No, that's hardcore though. Oh I can't
play it from far so because I can't play it
like straight through because we'll go to podcast you I
can't put musical podcasts. But this is like, do you
know Olivia Rorigo at all? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (25:39):
I mean I know her new driver's license.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
I feel like everybody knew that. But yeah, let me
see if I can fast forwards. Nothing that's crazy, that's

(26:06):
a jam. I'm I'm still team Olivia Rodrigo over Briandy Carpenter. Yeah,
I like like Gill, we like both. Let's stop hitting
women against She did a song about her, so she
made us assign ourselves on a team.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
No, I think we can be for you something.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Something something that's a good song. Yeah, Seranny Carpenter has
has some really good song.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Oh she has the best song.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
And I don't really care enough to like to put
them against each other. But whenever Sabriena Carpenter started existing
and having all these hits, I was like, I'm not
supposed to like her because I heard Driver's License.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
You get to be in your bonnet sometimes about artists,
and you don't ever want to turn I heard drivers
I ever want.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
To do a one eighty? Though I know you like
there's some something name another one Landa Delray. Probably you'll
say yes, yeah, that's probably true. I have grown to
like Landed, not love and only. I probably don't love
her because I can't commit to loving her.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
I don't think she's going to release her country album.
Why have you seen that trend on TikTok where it's
like it would be me and I would be filming
you okay, and it's like there's text.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
On the screen, what's around it's yes.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
Yeah, and it would say something like I think we
should all give our wife foot rubs every night and
for thirty minutes, and then the camera flips around and
it's you acting like oh crap, and it goes whoops, Yeah,
I'm recording myself.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
Well, she did one and it was something like, uh,
what if we all just announced albums and then never
released them? And it said something about Lasso, which was
going to be her country album, which I think she
said was going to be more Americana because that's more
her style, and then one other album she was going
to do. So I think she's not going to do
it anymore.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Really, what if it's just her saying I know it's
taking forever to put it out.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
She's already talked about that a million times. It felt
it feels like.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
She's not it.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
It feels more permanent.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
It feels permanent because I heard her in an interview
recently saying that she was working on Lasso and it
was getting to be too country and not that she
didn't like that, but it just didn't feel authentic to
her in her style, so she was having to change it.
And that's when she said she was going a little
bit more Americana.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
So she just married the Gator guy. Now it's the
perfect time to the country. Yeah, but that's somebody who
I will put up a little pushback on because whoever
drives gets to control the music, and I'll be like ah,
but then once it's on, I'm like.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Right, yeah, yeah, And that never happens in the reverse.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
I'm not sure. I'm not ever in the.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Car with him when he's driving, read and picking music
and I'm like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
That's the jam. No, she does, but she does what
I do because you want to hear seeing Cranberry's linger.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
Oh, I love the Cranberries, but that's like on a
playlist that I would play for playing cards or we're
in the car, I would just go nineties alternative and
so Cranberry's and she would start to find herself.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
That's the one's song. I like, I just know it's
not okay, this is not true. Name another. I will
thank you for asking. What was your question? Say? How
do y'all choose who gets to do. Is it like
if you're in her car, then yeah, driver picks music, yeah,
and nobody wants to drive. I don't want to drive,
and I don't have this attachment to masculinity of I

(29:19):
must drive. I'm the man. Actually I don't ever want
to drive.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Right, He'll go to the garage and sit in the
passenger seats and a way.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Pard car, you're calling passenger. I will go yes, I'll
y'all shotgun. And then she'll come out thinking maybe I'm
in my car and I'll be passenger in her car,
and so we just take our car. But then she
gets picked the music. Right, So there is a give
and take when we play cards. Whoever wins gets to
pick the playlist the next time. And so I will
pick nineties or two thousands for the most part, either

(29:49):
alternative or singer songwriter because that's my jam. And so
I would really notice some love on linger and I
can't see it over there, do you have to? I
would here to people that hate and you don't hate
because you don't have no you have no opinion on Nickelback,
But people that hate on Nickelback in general, like I
hate Knuckleback. Then all of a sudden there are TGI

(30:10):
Fridays and this is how and they're singing along under
their breath and they're like, no you you may not
love them, but you love that song. And I'm watching
you sing along when you think nobody's watching. She does
that crap? But who do you in a blowfish? Oh?

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Yeah, do you like? Who do you in the blowfish?

Speaker 3 (30:25):
I was recently exposed to them, like from you.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yes and slack. They got some good stuff. They got
some good stuff, and we like Darius that's what.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
Yeah, you gotta support, but you have to support as
little endeavors.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
No, like do you you actually started? We'll say not
hating because I don't hate Landadel Ray. At first I
was a little annoy because's all she wanted to hear.
But you don't you liked ish Hoodie before you met Darius?

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Did I?

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Probably? Yeah? Probably, so I would say that that's another one.
Mm hm.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Those are diamonds in the rough though, same with me
and your stuff. No, absolutely, not for every every linger.
There's like a miss.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
She does not like it's all counting Cross. She doesn't
like counting Croast, which is my favorite band man. She
does not like counting Cross and that's what she holds
against me, because she anytimes she's talking about any of
my music, she does the whining voice.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yeah, that's all of them.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
It's so bad. It's not all of them, but that's
it's very it's a very distinct part of that music.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yes, And when I used to listen to Lonzelrey, he
would be like, oh, she's so depressing, and then he
turns on songs like that.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
That's a great point.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
White guy's whining.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
That's a great point. I do not argue that your
point is bad, but I think that, like I think
there's some food fighters that you like. You may not
have no idea. Okay, there's some goo dolls I think
you like.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
I can't imagine there is.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
I okay, how about this one? And I give up
more to you.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Are we going by if I know it or if
I like it, that you like.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
It enough to not go like I hate the song?

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Let's play a game?

Speaker 1 (32:23):
How okay? That's fun because the stuff that you like.
I can only take so much. Billy Eilish, I'm not
a huge fan of the new album.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
This is when our age gap kicks in. It's music.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Really, Yeah, I agree, Yeah, I get Billie Eilish, But
that doesn't mean I have to like I like Billie Eilish.
What I'm freezing? It's sixty nine now, it's so warm
in here. Like, like, I understand why people like Billie Eilish.
I wish you would be consistent, But I think it's
probably the greatest thing about her is that she does

(32:56):
all these different types of albums, all these different textures. Right, Yeah,
I got like Billy Eilish sad and dark and gloomy.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
You like everything sad and dark.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
And it's a great point. Yeah, whenever she starts to
add like to I'm like, yeah, that's not my Billy Eilish.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Really, you start dancing, I don't want to dance with
Billie Eilish, Okay, you do in the car?

Speaker 1 (33:14):
I want to be sad.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
What what's your favorite song or artists that I play?

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Good question, Well, you had an entire face. Now it's
all based on seasons of when these artists that you
like put out music, because if they put out a
new project, you listen to a lot of that new
project until the next project comes out by the next
person that you like. Yep, you really made me a
Harry Styles fan. Yeah, that's been a while, but I

(33:41):
can name and sing every song on that record. Yeah,
so good, It's so good. Yeah, it was so good.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
That in Biaber, the Biaber record, Oh yeah, a lot
of Biaber in our dating days.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yeah, but the Harry Styles was it felt comfortable to
what I already like, but also felt fresher and new
or in a bit younger, right because he did that,
I mean he purposefully.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Please don't get into this. I hate when you do this.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
He purposefully chased retro what I don't know, I don't
want to.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
It's just like every time you want to give Harry
Styles a compliment, a listening to giving.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
I know who he's trying to be like.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Even the imagery is very it's derivative of a lot
of like those seventies on purpose though everything's drivingy Waterhouse.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
I mean, there's a ton of artists that do that.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
That's a great I like the Suki water House song
too though, that's a good one.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
I love Suki and.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
I don't know much about her except she are pregnant
by Robert Pattinson.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah, they have a baby.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Are they married.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
I don't think they're married.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Living in sin they might be engaged, but I'm only
half sin. Oh gosh, okay, what's that song? Gonna like
that one?

Speaker 2 (34:47):
I don't know which one you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
The one where it's like you think she's gonna say
something that she says something else. That's a good one.
I know them all. I do feel pretty cool whenever.
It's like, here are the top five songs of the
pop music I know every word to every one of them.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
What you think she's gonna Oh no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
My think segwad house you are, But you.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Change the word. She is gonna say fun and you
say phone.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Oh it's like I give up my phone or whatever
it is. I like that song.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
It's like I just it's about how she just wants
to have fun and he sings it he wants to
have his phone, and it's.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Like a little bit he does. Is it called good looking?

Speaker 2 (35:27):
No, it's called fun?

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Oh I was called my fun? I like good looking.
I know this one.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
I love that song.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Do I know this one? Mm hmm? But see this
is like I high like my Billie Eilish.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yeah, you like a good swaying song, and.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
I guess, yeah, this is a good one. But the
reason that Landa del Ray didn't hit with me at first,
is because it felt a little too California beach sad.
I don't even like California beach or Florida beach. Kenny Chesney, okay,
shots fired, No, No, I like sad Kenny. I like sad
Kenny chest and he does the greatest ballads. I don't
like beach music for manybody, even Jake stuff. I don't

(36:04):
even want the beach stuff.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
I don't feel like she's beachy.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
No, the Landadel race of like California sadness. You know,
she has to have a song that's like that.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
It's not called California's West Coast misery, you know, stuff
like that.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
A song called West Coast.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
So it's all that, And I'm like, I don't relate.
I don't care about the beach.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
But it's not really about that though.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Everything's about what you make it about.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
In art, isn't it interesting when artists have songs and
their titles have nothing to do with the song.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
So abstracted sadness, that's that one, right, I've got So
that's a good song. That's a good one. That's okay.
Let me let me hear my phone, my fun. This
song is a jam this radio or radio the CC Waterhouse. Nope,
not a.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Clue, missing out read.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
I know, Yeah, that's good. So I would say she says.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
Love me like I love my fun, and you say
I love my phone.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
I do love my phone? How annoying is my phone?

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Do you that's annoying?

Speaker 1 (37:12):
No? Really, let's let's do three final things here if
we've been on for a while. How final? Yeah, I'll
do one. You can do one. I'll do one. It
doesn't matter what it is. No pressure. If you don't
have anything, because we didn't plan to do this and
have anything, talk about me in my relationship with my
phone and your feelings on it, and then I will
give what I feel is and who said, oh boy, no,

(37:33):
that's a good one. Yeah, way at me. She hates
when I'm on my phone? Your do I remember you
saying that, what is your relationship with me and my phone?

Speaker 2 (37:44):
I don't have a relationship with your phone?

Speaker 1 (37:46):
You do because you live with us and you live
with me, and I use it. So there's a really
like an emotional or how do you feel about my
phone usage and when and where I use it? You're
a lot better? Thank you? I appreciate that because I've
tried to get a lot better.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Yeah, you're a lot better at it. You use to
be terrible.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
Because because you were addicted to it and you need
constant stimulation and you can't be alone with your thoughts.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
I don't agree fully, but go ahead? Or is that all?
That was it?

Speaker 3 (38:16):
And it's it's entertainment for you. You can do TikTok.
You can do Twitter. Do we still say Twitter?

Speaker 1 (38:23):
I say Twitter?

Speaker 3 (38:24):
Okay, Twitter TikTok, dabble in Instagram. You can distract yourself
with that and you and you can work on it.
And so with those components, it took up a lot
of your time.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yes, I can also watch now this is you. You're
the one that got me on YouTube TV. Yeah, I
did because you know, we had cable. It's fine, it's
good and made all the streaming services. But she's like,
you gotta get YouTube TV and that's what we live
on YouTube TV now.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yeah we don't have we have, Yeah, we have cable.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
We just don't. I don't think we do anymore. We do,
we do good for us. It's like the generator staying connected.
It's like the generator of content, meaning if your power
goes out, you turn the generator on, and for some reason,
YouTube TV goes down. We go over to the generator,
we go to cable.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Don't remember I log in?

Speaker 1 (39:09):
If Wi Fi goes down, you get cable. Wi Fi
goes down, a cable might go down. Does it no,
really say same company? Interesting unless the less it's like
a router issue. A router issue would be different. Uh okay,
So I'd like to say this on my phone. I
do not feel I'm addicted. I can. I can easily

(39:35):
put my phone away for hours. I can put my
phone away for a whole day.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
This is like what an alcoholic would say, I don't
have to drink tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
I think that's a fair response. However, I don't need
my phone for the sake of it being my phone.
I think there are things that if I get anxious,
if I'm not responding or I'm missing especially work things,
and then since it's already here, I might as well
get on TikTok Like I need it near for security

(40:04):
because there's a lot of decisions that they can't see
your all your eys of me good. But I feel
like that's the case. I need it for security. I
need it when something's happening at work, even though I
really can't affect.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Yeah, but this isn't that's like an addict.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
But that would be being addicted to work, not addicted
to my phone. Okay, And I'm not saying there's not
an addiction to that. And I have also put in
a lot of effort and even just acknowledgment pre effort
that an understanding from me that I can see why
you would be annoyed that I'm always on my phone.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
Yeah, but it doesn't even feel right to talk about
this because it's such an old problem. Because we don't
have this issue anymore.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
It is not an issue between us anymore. But there
are some lingers. I love to wind down. I love
to wind down at night. And you know how why down?
I watched tiktoks.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
It's just the worst thing you could do, especially if
you have sleep sleep issues.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
According to some experts.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Pretty much all I think.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
Can I tell you why I read? And you're gonna
side with her because she's smarter than I am, and
I get it. She has great instincts and she studies.
No one knows more about health that I know, if
they're not a doctor, than her, she spend a lot
of time dedicated to let me hear. I like to
wind down by watching TikTok at night, and what I
do that I can't admit is ignoring. I'll be in

(41:30):
the bed. I did not know how bright it was,
so she took a picture of me once, and it's
like a whole movie projector screen on the back of
the wall in the bed. When I'm watching TikTok. So
I turn up now, She'll say, would you please turn
your brightness down? When I lay down and start to
be alone with my thoughts. As she mentioned accurately earlier,
I don't have anxiety, in the classic form of anxiety,

(41:53):
where people aren't able to make decisions in their day
to day life because they're worried or concerned, or they're
not yet they're still feeling their body manifest things. I
don't have. That understood it was real, but I don't
have it, and I always just felt very lucky. I
did not have anxiety, especially as a person who is

(42:13):
so focused on the things that it doesn't matter if
I'm focused on it, I can't control. Don't have anxiety. However,
I have anxiety and have only really in the past year,
realized and acknowledged that when it hits me that same
anxiety is when I'm asleep.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
It's when your anxiety hits you in the quiet.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
When I'm asleep. And if I'm not quiet until right
right when I go to sleep, then I can go.
That's how I go to sleep. That's crazy, I mean
but even growing up, like I slept on the couch.
We never had a bedroom growing up, so TV was
always on, so I was never alone.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
There was never quiet, and there's not quiet when you
go to sleep. Now it's like I need it read.
It's a podcast until he falls asleep, Like even while
he's sleeping, the podcast is still going.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
It's a TikTok into a podcast, and then once I
fall asleep, the podcast will die.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
But if it falls not once you fall asleep, when
the podcast is over, it will die.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
True, when I'm asleep, the podcast will end and then
it dies. But I can't. I don't even use the
word can't because I don't like using that word. It's
very difficult for me to fall asleep quiet because everything
in my body freaks out. Yeah, so it's like, well,

(43:35):
I gotta work in nine hours to night folling out
that night. I want to deal with my whole life
of emotional trauma. So let me just have something that
mildly stimulates me, and I take the stimulation down. TikTok
goes to podcast. It's so okay, unhealthy.

Speaker 7 (43:51):
I didn't know if you like watch tiktoks and like
fight yourself until you just pass out. No, when I
start to get tired, I then roll over and turn Ryan,
Rasilla or Bill say that's nice.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Okay, we have a few approved And if I turn
a high energy went on, she's like, it's not approve.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
When you try to do Colin Coward, I'm like, sudget,
the voice is too high.

Speaker 6 (44:10):
It's like, have you tried the like waves and all
that stuff?

Speaker 1 (44:13):
She doesn't. She listens. That's the healthy thing that people
would do. Yeah, the phone is far less of an issue.
But I would say that is like my hardest mountain
to climb and get to the top and be like
I did. It is not not need. I just don't
think I'll ever not need simulation.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
But before I fall asleep, that's the attitude that'll get them.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Yeah, I do. I do struggle with sleep. Yeah, okay,
I hate that. Do you have anything, any questions do
you'd like to oppose? If not, that's okay, because again,
we had nothing planned. Yeah, I don't have any questions
or a statement. I don't.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
I don't have a statement.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
Now. I was thinking something really exciting happened today that
I can't talk about out yet.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Yeah, but people are gonna have the wrong idea. Don't.
Don't talk about it. You don't have to. But you
saying that people are gonna have the wrong idea about it, Okay,
they're going to sign something. It has nothing to do
with us, and you know what we learned, So let's
you say that has nothing to do with us.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Oh, it has nothing to do with us.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
That's all. That's all I need to say. Oh yeah,
you know what Calen said last night, and I agree
with her, But it was so a matter of fact.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
Sometimes conversations are private.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
I don't think you would think this was private.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
And I'm not worried about read. I feel like Read
seen us in our and our worst than our best.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Go ahead. I don't not agree with this, but the
level of passion you had while saying it, I was
like wow, and it was met warmly by everybody. She
was like Bobby is not a people pleaser. He does
not care. And our friends we're talking about earlier, Ben

(45:51):
and Hillary, you know, they were like we're people please
Kaitlyn's and people pleaser, and it was just a little
too rough for me. Like I think if we do
talking about it, and it's like, you know, it's a
lot of people pleaser, and it's a it's a you know,
you know, it's not always so focused on making her
as you. But it said she like came hard, you
are nuts, she gave. She was like, you know a
lot of people pleaser. This m effort.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
Now, I said, you have no people pleasing in you
at all.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
Yeah, maybe something like that. And she's absolutely right. And
they're like, we wish we had that, and I'm like, no,
you don't, not at the level that I have it.
And I think there are it's powers for good and
it's powers that hurt me as well, But I don't
choose that right, like I didn't choose how I my
my instincts toward situations.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
No, I think it's you're it's a product of your
upbringing as we all are. And I am def I
was a mega people pleaser, but I hope that I've
gotten better.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
At that, gotten so much better.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
I've been working on it in therapy for years at
this point.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
So but I'll like, I don't think there's a right
or wrong in any of it. I think you can
be too much, okay, I think you could be on
the polar scale.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
And I think we were at one point. You were
on one side and I was on the other side
with each other in general, No, no, in general.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Why I think you've softened me a bit. I agree,
I swear, and.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
You've hardened me a bit.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Boys heard, But yes, I think for me it was
I shall go forward anything in my way, but there's
an honesty with that and a fairness with that and
a consistency with that. And I always like that about myself,
that you didn't have to like me, and I wasn't

(47:34):
gonna do anything to make you not like me, but
you were going to get consistency, and that here's what
I am, here's all I want to do, Here's how
I'm going to do it. You want to go with
me or do you want me to run through you?
That was what that was generally my not my my
feeling about me versus the earth. Yeah, it's not. It's
not as much like that anymore, but I don't. I
definitely a lot of people please there. But it makes

(47:54):
me sound like a dick when I when it's just I,
when it's just said like that, that is okay, And
I think it is that at times, I think it
can be confused as that, and it's not, and sometimes
it's absolutely not. That it feels very honest, right, And
all three can be the same, It can be the
same exact thing and be interpreted three different ways. And
you know what, I do not care because nothing matters,

(48:17):
but everything matters, but nothing matters, And that we assign
such value to these day to day things or these
interactions or non important relationships that aren't like your circle
that were so worried about people that they're not worried
about us. Why are we so focused on them they
spend in five seconds thinking about us.

Speaker 3 (48:37):
Well, it's yeah, I mean I think for me it
was I was so worried about other people. One because
I just think I was brought up that way, and
not that that's a bad thing, but I was so
worried about other people really because I was worried about
how they would perceive me and so I was always
trying to control how they viewed me. So yes, I
wanted to help them, but in reality it was it

(48:59):
was also a self sen.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Act, as was mine. But at the same time they
both weren't as well, right, Like there's equal there's the
other side to both of those coins.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Totally, I still want to help people.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
You are you are the kindest person I know, Like, oh, no, doubt, no,
you can. You don't have to fight this. I'm not
saying it because you're here. I say it all the
time when you're not here, Like you are the kind
you have made me. I think I'm the same internally,
the same person that wants to do things and does things,

(49:28):
but I can communicate it in a much softer, more
palatable way that allows people to understand that I actually
am a real boy. Yeah, and not a little wooden Pinocchio,
which at times it could be that because it was
very even clinical feeling. Yeah, but you know, you're the
You're the kindest person I've ever met and the funniest person.

(49:52):
And I hate that.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
Well, thank you for saying I'm kind, but I I'm
actually working on like not not being kind, but it
being a Okay, if people don't think I.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Am so I to me, that's nice. So we're just
doing semantics, right. Yeah, I don't want to be nice ever, Okay,
but nice to me is not authentic, but it can
be to somebody else. Somebody else's meaning of nice can
the same way. Any of these words can me have

(50:22):
different definitions of different people. I never want to be nice, yep,
because I feel like nice is a show. I always
want to hopefully be kind and thoughtful, and I'm not.
And sometimes it's not because I chose not to. It's
because I'm either distracted or selfish or didn't know I
want to be kind. I never want to be nice,

(50:47):
But that doesn't mean that nice itself is bad because
everybody's definition is different. And I think you're tremendously consistently
always kind And in my mind when you say that,
you're talking about nice, but just your definition is different,
like you're not as ware about being nice.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Yeah, I'm just not as worried. I'm not as worried
as I'm not as worried about people viewing me as
kind or nice any longer.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
That's good.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
I think That's what I was trying to say. And
my therapist hit me with that the other day because
we talk a lot about people pleasing and I don't
even remember what we were talking about, but it was
something I was going to do potentially, like could make
that person think that I was mean. And she was
just like, yeah, and people might. People might think you're mean,
and that's okay because you know you're not. And even

(51:35):
if you are, sometimes you have to be a little mean.
You can't abandon yourself all the time.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
You know. Yeah, I think I go to what was
my intention? Okay, got to settle on that. Yeah, I mean,
that's really what if I am concerned about that and
I can't change someone's mind or perception, so I don't
think about it anymore. I go, what was your intention?
That's all you got?

Speaker 2 (51:56):
Yeah, I've had to learn to do that.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Yeah, but the best, You're literally the best. It's crazy. No,
I'm not, I trust me. I'm not. But read reads
the best. I was going to say this about read,
and then I'll read and you can. If you have
anything you want to ask us, we're happy to answer.
I just love that she's here, so I don't want
to No, she if she would.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
My teeth are chattering.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
It's not now, it's just part of the show. I
feel like now, it's just part of the gimmick, you know, No,
I feel like the whole show.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
I'm like that, like I'm not making any sense because
my friend is not connecting because I'm so cold.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
It is. I've started to be a little cold and
be honest with you. But I think the weather got
cold today, so it's even colder than what the temperature
says on the on the deal. Uh. A note about Read.
When you talk about kind, Read is extremely kind, Yes

(52:49):
he is, and caring, yes he is, and pardon my language,
not a cursor. So I'm not going to curse here,
but also a bit of a pussy because at times
he can be so kind that he's just like.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
That he abandons himself. Yes, yes, and that's I did
that for so long.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Now that's what I like fight with them about. I'm like,
let's go.

Speaker 7 (53:19):
What you were talking about is like what I've thought
in myself for so long is like I don't stand
up for myself as much as I should.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
Write, because it's more important for you for the other
person to think you or whatever you want them to
think you.

Speaker 7 (53:31):
Are exactly and actually and I'm like, it's just easier
for me just to deal with you know this, then
you know, stand up for myself sometimes. But I feel
like at a certain point, when it gets to something
that's super super important in my life, I can flip
a switch and I'm like ready to go.

Speaker 6 (53:49):
But that takes a lot for it to get there.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
I've not seen the I know, not that we've been
in a situation where the switches need to be flipped.

Speaker 7 (53:56):
Yeah, but I mean it'd be like it'd be like
something like if if somebody he tried to like take
advantage of Mattie or do something, then I would like
out flip a switch.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
But that's the people, but it's other people. It's not
even a good point. That's a good point.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
Yeah, right, it's easier to stand up, Like I feel
like I can stand up for him way more than
I can stand up for myself. But I would like
to give myself that level of like respect and love.
And that's the journey I'm on. I don't really love
when people say journey, but it's it's the word that fits.

Speaker 6 (54:25):
Well, that's a journey always growing, Yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
You're hopefully you don't grow anymore, dude, you're like nine
feets okay, yeah, so you at times I could see
you letting people push around a little bit when you
definitely could not have them push around. Both. You're a
smart guy. You're physically imposing that you could do, but

(54:50):
you just choose to be overly nice and kind sometimes.
And I try to break. I try to break. I
try to like.

Speaker 6 (54:58):
It's helped a lot on that, to be honest, Pickable
has helped a lot.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
I yell at him, really, he does yell at you.
I don't love when he yelled.

Speaker 6 (55:05):
I need that.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
I don't yell at him in a bad way. It's
like you are good, you are good. Yeah, I'm like stuck.
You're playing sloppy because you're being lazy, like stop and
then he plays awesome. Yeah, but it's just a commitment.
But when you talk about like read is really a nice,
kind guy, he is.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
All right, now, let's say.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Who's not I'm just kidding? Is that me? No?

Speaker 2 (55:31):
No, I was just kidding.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
I was really kidd Like in our lives, like we
just started throwing people out and say nice, we got those.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Yeah, you don't want to.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Do I think everybody's a villain in somebody's story.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
Do I think every every single person fills a villain
role in someone else's life?

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Like you don't think? I know that there are people
on the villain. They don't even know me too, for sure,
Like especially people in entertainment business like that, I have
the spot even some people that know me. Sure, I
think there are people that you're a villain too, OOKI
I think everybody is the villain in somebody else's life,

(56:12):
even if they don't know it.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
I don't think everybody, but yeah, maybe most people.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Who would it to be a villain? Who is like that?
Who's the A plus nicest guy?

Speaker 3 (56:22):
Ever, I can't see my sister being a villain in
anyone's life.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
I can for sure. The team may be in the
state championship, like somebody's like that.

Speaker 8 (56:30):
It's like she's not wouldn't be the villain, No, but
they could still be like a hated Grace Gasso like
she because she plays dirty, but I would say, see
that is not dirty, it's competitive, like she goes hard,
like I admire how her sister plays makes me mer to
punch in the face.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
And I love it. Formerly, I mean she hasn't played
in a long yeah, but she like is competitive and
mean in a competitive way, not as a person to person.
She's the nicest, sweetest human being ever. But I love
me and chaos sister had the biggest fight one of
the first times we ever spent time together pickleball. You.
I don't know what it was, but it was like,

(57:04):
if you're gonna talk crap and play, let's freaking play.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
And she was mauthy and it was awesome, and DJ
and I were like whatever, and.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Caitlyn's parents were there and they were kind of like,
uh uh, they don't care. But it's like I was
kind of the new guy.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
You and DJ were the new guy.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Yeah, and I was just and they every now everybody
knows right, like we're all but great, Like I think
even Grace, who's the nicest person, You're right. Ever, she's
the villain in some people's stories.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
No, I don't want her to be.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
I know. It's so crazy.

Speaker 7 (57:32):
It is like people balance each other out like that,
like her, like her and DJ like talking about you
and DJ were just like, oh.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
We don't care. And then yeah, Bobby and her were
just going at it. Right, Let's see what's our balance though?
How does she balance me?

Speaker 6 (57:45):
Out right, I feel like you, like, I don't know.
That's a good question.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
I can tell you as a human, as an actual
human being. She has committed me to things that I
thought I will never first of all, never enjoy them
and I'll never do them, And now I actually enjoy them.
Like what going and spending time with human beings that
you're related to. Okay, you enjoy that. I do. I

(58:10):
love when your parents come over. I know, I love
going to Oklahoma. And the only thing I don't like
is staying in your bedroom at home because the beds.
It's a twin bed for like a thirteen year old
and her, but it's the same bed, so we have
to like lay on our side. Yeah, oh yeah, it's awful.
But it's fine, it's good. I love being there. But
like I never when we first started dating, what was
what I was nervous about was that you had a family,

(58:33):
because I didn't. I was like, I don't want to
spend all this time somewhere, like dedicated all the time
to somewhere, Like I mean every holiday, have to go here,
every like that sucks. I don't want to always have
to go. But now it's like one of my favorite things.
And I think I mentioned this last night whenever, and
I think I just said it in passing and then
was like, wow, look at that whenever I won the

(58:54):
MVP at the softball game. Oh yeah, I just wanted
to tell her.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
Dad's all made me want to cry yells dinner and
we were talking about he. Our friends hadn't really been
on Instagram or anything. We han't seen him in a while,
so they didn't know he won m v P. And
he was like, yeah, and so and so was on
my team, and and Dion Sanders was my coach.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
And her dad.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
Saw it and I was like, oh, and I said,
my dad saw It's one of your highlights, and it
was like.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
The first thing. Yeah, yeah, because it was like i'd
have a dad, so it was like, that's like one
of the first people I texted. And I was like,
oh my god, you know you're not gonna believe it. Oh,
my Dad's not a villain in anyone's story. That's the guy,
I think, right, unless there's like an eye doctor that's
like he's taking my business. Yeah, but also that could
be it too though, Right, You don't have to be
a bad person to be a bad person in someone's mind. Yeah,

(59:41):
but that's a that was a And I'll end on
this cause we've been and think this is a whole
thank you one episode down in the payment for losing
the bet, which I cannot even remember what we bet either,
I know what.

Speaker 6 (59:53):
Didn't Did you mention it at pickleball?

Speaker 1 (59:56):
No, it wasn't a pickleball bet.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
Oh no, that bet was different. He had to him
and our Cody have to take me and Josie on, like.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
Yes, we lost a bit, but it's because Cody sucks
a pickle I love Cody too, but Cody sucks a
pickleball and we lost. And now I will say that, Yeah,
we were dinner last time and I said that, and
I didn't think much about it until I said it,
and I was like, oh, I never had a dad,
So I think that's why that was important to me.
I was in therapy and I was talking with and

(01:00:27):
this is going to seem extremely trivial on the surface,
but it is not. And it's very similar. And it's
kind of when I stopped rooting for ou to lose,
and it wasn't because of you. It was because I
didn't like your dad to be sad. Because I was like,
I don't want to be sad, and I was like,
I don't want him to be sad. So it wasn't

(01:00:49):
even that I would root for O you to lose.
I just generally didn't care. I know it was your team. Yeah,
but I would bet on him, so I would make
me root for them. But now I don't need to
bet on them to root for them because I don't
want her dad to be sad because I know how
sad that makes.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
Me, and you have a relationship with him.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
Like our therapist was so good about kind of boiling
that down to what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
He said, that's attachment.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
Yes, for someone who's so scared of attachment and says
that you can't really attach to people other than me,
Obviously we're very attached by it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
But it's funny that it's like football, because that's the
safe that feels safe to attach over. Mm hmm, like
both of us can like it. We're still mere, you know.
It's it's a you know, a toxic masculine my fault,
my part because her dad is like soft and loving
and kind. But I guess that was the only thing
that felt like, Okay, I'm now going to have a

(01:01:39):
bit of empathy for somebody and I'm going to care
about how they feel and has nothing to do with me.
And that it was because it was college football that
I felt safe doing it, because I felt like I
could I would not feel judged. Yeah, that's that's a breakthrough.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
That was a breakthrough that I loved that day in
therapy when we talked about that, when he like just
kind of I don't know if you told the story
or if you were just making passing comment in therapy
as well, but he grabbed onto that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
I think it was semi passing yet, because I felt
pretty stupid going I don't root against his favorite college
football team because it makes me sad for him. I
feel like that's this dumb thing to say, But really
it wasn't. Our therapist did not make me feel down
when I said that, And maybe I think I was
just kind of like putting the line.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
In the water, yeah, to see like is it something?

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Yeah, and then it it was something and what.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
We talked about it ever the whole time an hour.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Okay, speaking of that, thank you for coming down to
the house. It's my pleasure, Reid. Thank you for showing
up over here. Last minute of course, we're going to
play the YouTube that I did before you walk down.
We're having a lot of technical difficulties for different reasons.
The first time we had done it with a certain setup,
so you can listen to it. It's fine. Next time

(01:02:55):
it's gonna be better. We learned a lot today on
the YouTube part of it, but this was thing I enjoyed.
So thanks. We did forty five minutes, so thank you.
One episode down, lost one hundred episodes.

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
No, I think it's seven seven hours, seven hours, seven.

Speaker 6 (01:03:12):
Six seven hours of sitting in the mist six more.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
But no, she's great at it. She's the best.

Speaker 8 (01:03:16):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
Okay, when you say things I actually i'm working on.
Oh we're wrapping up, I should.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Know you don't have. I'm wrapping out only for you
because I feel like I have exhausted your Hey, this
is novel time.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
I'm chill.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
I think the reason that I get so like, I
don't say I'm the best like, especially publicly, is because
you used to. Whenever you would say I'm whatever, smart, funny,
blah blah blah, it just get it gave people an
opportunity to say that I wasn't do you know what
I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
I do. Let's just not talk about it at all.
I recognize that, and I've tried to do a better
job of framing it differently.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
Oh, I think I'm so disconnected from what people say.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Now about me, people you don't know, especially Oh yes.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
Of course, of course I will listen to people that
know me and they want to give their opinions.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
I will listen.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
But I think I'm so disconnected from having my pulse
on the finger of others.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Finger on the pulse, pulse on the finger.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
Breen Fog, having my finger on the pulse of like
what people are thinking about me, I just don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
I don't know. I don't know what they think. And
that's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
The greatest gift to me would be if one day
she said, you know what you can This is going
to feel weird to hear. If she said to me
because you don't label them the same as I do.
But she is so accomplished in so many ways, And

(01:04:51):
if she were like, yeah, you can share.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
That, Oh, what what are you trying to share?

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
No, if you said to me, there are certain things
in your life that you have done and accomplished.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
What is it. I'm nervous.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Are you trying to.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
There are many?

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
Are you trying to tell me? But do you have
something in mind that that I've done that you don't
want to share?

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
I do want to share. I would share everything that
you've done.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
I mean that I don't want you to share. I
can't even think of what it was.

Speaker 6 (01:05:19):
Just accomplishments in general.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
There are specific ones that I've just purposely not brought up.
Oh okay, and I won't get I will not give
exact details here, and maybe we could do it a
different time if you're comfortable with it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Are they grad school ones?

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
So how I was going to say, so she did,
But I've said that you ended up. Yeah, you graduated,
you went and got a master's after first in her class.
By the way, she went back to college. But it's
not that. And I'll just say this. One day at
the airport, I was like, what what is that email?
And she was like, oh, I've been up to something.
Remember that, Yo, that's not how I talk.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
I've been up to.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
Say, But it wasn't It wasn't bad, no, no, no no no.
It wasn't like you were caught doing something you were
working on something.

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
Oh yeah, I'll say I won't say what it was.
But I went back to grad school second time last year,
and I wish I.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
Could talk all about it. That's what I'm saying. Like
if she would just be like, hey, yeah, feel free,
I would be like, man, people will be blown away
if they knew that you're capabilities. Also like you're curiosity,
also your commitment to like growing and getting smarter. And

(01:06:32):
I interrupted you, I'm sorry about that, but like I
that would be the greatest gift. Don't want to give
me chrisalpressent. Just give me a wrap it up, put
it in and say feel free to talk about it.
That's all I need. Yeah, it was like, I'm so
proud of you, like you just in general, thank you?

Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
That was that was really fun. I've learned about myself,
which is going to be funny to say. I've learned
about myself that I love learning. And I think that
when I when I get I've gotten to a few
different points in my life where it's like I haven't
learned anything new in a while, and I don't like
the way that that feels. I don't want this to
be like the limit of my knowledge that I have forever.

(01:07:05):
So if I'm interested in something, I like to learn
a lot about it and become a little bit obsessed
about it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
But yeah, I went back.

Speaker 4 (01:07:13):
I did.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
I got a graduate degree, and then I went back
to graduate school again last year.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
But it wasn't just that if one day I'll tell
the story, because it's not. It's not just like she
went back to school.

Speaker 6 (01:07:24):
I know some other ones too.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
You've told me, okay, slave Read with those secret knowledge. Yeah,
so let's make a note to bleep out.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
I need Read to like really say it, because you
know how sometimes he does the thing where he's like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
I got it, I will do you have it? But
do you have a reader yet? I haven't call it. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:07:44):
The first thing we talked about was it twenty one
thirty four.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Read was calling pickleball lines when he was out yesterday,
and he'd be like, what Read, what right? No, say
what you're saying? I said it was out? No, you
said three times we did know what you were saying.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
You would just make a sound that could be either
if you'd be like, We're like, yes, like it was
out or it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
Was in yeah, good like no identified the sound.

Speaker 6 (01:08:13):
I got it?

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
Okay, you will handle it. Yeah, she trusts you.

Speaker 6 (01:08:17):
Before I even send this to Mike, I'm gonna clean
all that up.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
Here's thing about her. I trust you read you burn her?
Oh I'm out. No, that's you. That's true, that's me.
I would be like you burn her with me. There
you go, no more? Okay, thank you. I love you
and I appreciate you coming down next time. If you
give me a fifteen minute heads up, I will make
sure that the places like Totina's before you get here.

Speaker 5 (01:08:37):
Yeah, the Bobby Cast will be right back.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
In the groove now.

Speaker 8 (01:08:42):
She's ready to go.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
Okay, thank you, and we're gonna do YouTube step before
you get in.

Speaker 5 (01:08:48):
Good night, And we're everybody on the Bobby Cast.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
What's up everybody? So we're gonna do this podcast a
bit different. We are up live on the Bobby Bone
Show channel YouTube, and we were kind of experimenting here
to see if we could go live and also save
it as a podcast and also do a Q and
eight at the same time. We're actually gonna play pickleball today,
but it rained all day long. It's rained like five

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in the last six days. I remember my wife first
moved here. I was like you're gonna love Nashville. And
she was like, I hear it rains most and I
was like, nine was a rain. It's not Seattle. And
it's since she moved here, which has been like the
four years, it's rained every day. It's in four years.
So we hopped in the studio. If you guys, get
in the chat now, and if there's anything you want

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to ask, go for it. I'm just gonna take off
because I posted them on Instagram. Hey, what questions do
you have? And we'll get there. Number one from Piper
Lauri figure pro. When you get so angry after an
Arkansas loss, do you feel mad at the team or
them as a whole or what? Not really the players

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because they are kids. Probably the coaching staff because we
didn't scheme right or prepare a certain way. Or maybe
not even that. Maybe just myself for caring so much
and getting so sad over a bunch of teenagers kicking
a ball down the field. But that's a good question.

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I don't know who I ever get mad at it.
I guess it depends each game. I really never get
mad at a player, though, because I can professional different.
If I've bet on a game and it's a player
and they screw up. That's different. But college I don't
really get upset at players so much. Next up, how
hard was the process of getting veneers and what was
the after effects? Like it sucked but it's awesome, And

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that is a question I've never been asked in the
Q and A forum. So all my teeth I'll show
you on YouTube. These are all fake. Hopefully there's nothing
in them. I gave it all to you. They're there,
They're all fake. Growing up at really bad teeth and
brushing for a long time, didn't go to the dentist
till my twenties, so really wasn't ready for the adult

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world of needing somewhat decent teeth, not even just visually,
but like I was missing back teeth. Some of them
were so cavity filled. So I started going to the dentist,
started getting that fixes. That probably took like twelve to
thirteen years to kind of get caught up. But because
I never took care of them and obviously never had braces,

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the front ones are all crossing over. And at this
point too, I wanted to do television, and I felt
that that was holding me back a bit. If someone's like,
let's make a decision either this guy or this guy. Well,
this guy's got jacked up teeth, we're not taking him.
I was like, well, if television being the visual medium

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it is, I need to get decent teeth. So it's
one of the first things I ever bought when I
made any sort of money was Veneers and so my
and I know he is his term is higher than
a dentist, and so I apologize, I'm going to mess
this up, but I will say my teeth guy was
Caroline Hobby's dad, who is there's a dentist, and there's

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a level above a dentist. Whatever he is, that's what
he is. And so in Waco, I went to Waco
and said, I want to get Venear's top and bottom.
And the process sucked and he did a great job.
And this is ten years later and they're still awesome.
But he explains what's going to happen. What they do
is they take your real teeth. And this is a

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very rudimental expectation or excuse me explanation. So first thing
they do is they shave your regular teeth down, So
they shave them like long ways, so you have like
nubs and then they shave them a little bit, I
think on each side, so you just have like little

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picks for each and then they have to let that heat.
And after they let that heel because and as that's happening,
you have a temporary, but you can't use that temporary
to eat at all. So it takes I'm just gonna
guess like two months to heal. Then you go in

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and after your gums are healed, they put on the
fake ones. But the first process is they shave them down.
You wear a temporary that looks like teeth. It looks good,
but you can't use them. And then when they're healed,
then you go back and you get the other ones
put in well. Because I wanted top and bottom done
at the same time, I don't think they did them

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at the same time. I could be remembering this wrong.
I think he did, like the top let him heal,
put the top teeth in, then shave the bottom ones down,
let them heal, then put those in. So I think
the whole process was like a four or five month
process where I could not eat with my normal teeth.
Not that I eat corn on the cob every day,
but the only teeth I could really use with a

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very very very very teeth and that was a weird time.
Was it worth it? Absolutely? I was so proud of them.
I still am proud that have decent teeth now because
I didn't have that. Like my whole life. I was
so self conscious about my teeth and if I smiled,
and there were a lot of pictures from when I
was younger, we just smile like dish because I was
so embarrassed that I never got braces or even had

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naturally good teeth. So that's a ques That's an interesting question.
Who when we find out who is leaving on the show.
This morning, I mentioned that someone on the show had
come to me and it's said that they have to
leave the show, but not right now, but there have

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been some other dynamics that have been in their lives,
so they are going to let me know far ahead
of time when they are leaving. I am not at
liberty to say right now exactly who that is, but
I did say that someone was Also. I liked doing
those segments because they're not lies. We don't create those storylines,
but I like those little teasers a little bit. We

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had one that was on the show today that we
wanted to talk about, and it was an Amy story.
We've had a couple when she had the meth sent
to her, and we were afraid to talk about it
on the air because well, if we talked about it
on the air, we felt like somebody may murder us
to try to get the met that they accidentally put
an Amy's mailbox. That was a weird one. Another one
was on lunchbox and I bought the storage locker. When

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we got inside it and he went to go clear
it out, there were a lot of things. There were
no guns, but there was a lot of AMMO and
a lot of other little small things that led us
to think that whomever storage unit it was, whoa, I
just heard some voice that whomever storage unit it was

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was up to no good. Not just because there was AMMO.
I have bullets here at the house, but shotguns joke,
This was not that they were also like burner phones.
Whoever had that stories, you know, it was a bad deal.
So we didn't talk about that for a while, and
then we finally did. We waited like a year and
a half or so, but we keep notes on our

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calendar on when it's clear to actually talk about stuff.
The story from today was and while it was happening,
it was really odd, was that when Amy was getting
a divorce and she couldn't talk about that lifetime because
they were actually doing legal things. And I remember people

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getting so upset, like, I can't believe you're keeping it
from us. We literally couldn't talk about it because she
was in the middle of a legal process of getting
a divorce. But some listeners felt that that was the
case because she wasn't wearing a ring, like she was
trying to do everything she possibly could do to let
everybody know without actually saying what was going on. And

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so some listeners found her cell phone number and one
in particular started calling her, acting like he was a reporter,
and he said he's from the Austin American Statesman, which
is the local newspaper to where she is from. We
all lived in Austin, and said that he and they
were doing a profile piece on her, which is exciting.
That's our hometown paper. Of course, who wouldn't want to

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have a profile piece done on their hometown paper. And
like his first question was are you still married? She
was like, that feels weird. Let me call you back
and so shocking to my wife and wife's like what
they said their name was, and they gave us a name,
and they were listening to nowhere in the entire directory
of the Austin American Statesman. But there were a couple
of really weird things that were happening around that time,

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very similar to that. So we never told that story,
which was a little more in depth you can listen
to on the regular podcast. We never told that story,
but that was one of those way to hold on
because we didn't know who it was, what they were
up to, why they would be doing that. Maybe it
was a new reporter and there would be a story.
Well it wasn't. None of that happened. But all that

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to say, I'm sure soon enough I'll be able to
tell you who's leaving. It's not Scuba Steve. The thing
about Scuba Steve is people have misinterpreted that he's not leaving.
I'm just trying to help him get another job because
he wants to be a personality. So he's a great
executive producer and what he does is he oversees everything

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at the show, the executive producer of everything. He does,
sales calls, he makes sure people get the note on
what time to be in on the show, who the
guests are. But he's not leaving because he's so good
at his job and it's a really good job. But
what he wants to do is be a personality as
well a little more on rock station. So we've been
helping him. I've been helping him do that. But he's good,

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and so that was interpreted as he's leaving. He did
come to my house and we talked about it, and
I was like, hey, if you really want to do it, like,
I will support you. I will give you whatever recommendation
that you need. In order for you to have to
move to Tupelo, Mississippi, or Rochester, New York, You're gonna
have to go way down, like in market size or

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not even market size, because we're a syndicated show. You're
gonna have to go way down in order for them
to put you on a show. They're just not gonna
give you a big show, considering you've never done it.
And so we did talk about that and it was
a brief consideration. But I think one, he loves Nashville,
Two he loves the show, and three I think he
can do both and hopefully that's the case. Here's a
question from Underscore Megan, Underscore, I do you think you'll

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ever have Zach Bryan on the show. So let's remove
what's happened over the past week from my answer to
give you a bit of background about Zach Bryan and myself,
and that there is no background. I've only ever seen
him do like one or two interviews ever. I think
Joe Rogan was one of them. He did back in

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the day. I'm sure he's done them now. I don't
think I've ever met him in Nashville. I've only met
him once in Dallas, and that was at a hotel counter.
He was standing up there. I saw him, and I
went up to him. I was like, hey man, and
he was super cool. He's super nice. I didn't expect
him not to be nice, Like I really had no

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relationship with him either way. And so because he has
not been in Nashville to my knowledge, to do any
sort of press, he's not been by the show. I
did get invited out there, like, hey, if you like
to interview Zact, you can fly out to Red Rocks
to that show and go to the show and interview
Zact backstage and I didn't want to do that because

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I don't want to have to travel to do interviews.
I think. I guess that's a pretty bad precedent for me,
or some artists will be like, Eh, I don't really
want to do it, but he can come to me
and that's fine. And also I just I travel enough.
I guess I dehydrated. It's all think about when I
travel is being dehydrated. So we do not have a

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relationship at all. I thought, you know, all this stuff
that came out the last couple of weeks or so
with Brown Chicken, right, seems pretty scummy for sure. So
I definitely haven't had him on in the past couple weeks.
But he's never actually been on the show. I've never
interviewed him. His team had invited me out to do
one thing. I've invited him to do a thing, and

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we've never actually done anything, nor good nor bad, Like
there is no beef, but there's also no friendship because
we've never met each other. But yeah, that's it. That's
that all right. Best interview tip for podcasters from Underscore
Samantha Kramer. If you want to do this, there are

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two things. One be extremely niche to find something very
specific that you think there's only a select few people
that will even care because one that's not true. It
doesn't matter how niche you are, there's still thousands of people,
if not hundreds of thousands, that love it. You have
to be extremely niche until you have to be extremely

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consistent and expect a very slow build. I mean, there
are shows on our podcast network that now do really
well but took a long time. Even with the promotion
of it. It's hard to get people to go search
you and hit that subscribe button and then get them
to listen. It is very difficult to get people to
do that. I mean to even think it like habits

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of like in the eighties, nineties, two thousands, if one
of those television morning shows, if it was a Good
Morning America, that Today's show insert, those became so habitual
for people they couldn't get you to change to go
to another one. So once they got you, they got you.

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This is a different version of that. We have the
podcast or the radio shows that we listen to, and
it's hard to get people to go and check out
anything new. It's hard to get people when they watch
clips because I have podcasts that I basically just consume
clip form on TikTok that I've never actually gone and
listened to as a podcast. But I feel like like

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Pat Bev and Rohne, which I watched pretty much all
of their clips, and that's a basically a basketball podcast.
Pat Beverly who played at Arkansas but played Overseas last
year but played had a bunch of years in the NBA,
they do a podcast, Pat Bev Show. I've never actually
gone and subscribed to it. I just listened to it,
or excuse me, I just watch it on TikTok. But

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my advice would be find something specific podcasts that people go.
You know, I just want to like interview good people
and not even interested anymore. You know, I was talking
with Morgan yesterday because she flew with me over to Fayetteville.
You know, it's part of a big announcement for a
multi couple hundred million dollars scholarship going to I almost
under privilege, but lesser privileged kids in Arkansas, people that

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need the help. And we were flying over and she
goes everywhere with me basically her and read and as
we were flying back we were talking about it because
she also manages the podcast network. She's the president of it,
and in that it was her and I talking about shows,
like we're meeting with another show next week to see
just to kind of feel you know, what are they about?

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You know, how can we help them? We want to
bring them on the network. But it's like the one
thing that we don't want is a show that depends
on interviews, a show where someone's like, no, I'm going
to get a lot of interviews, because anybody can do that.
So you have to be a dynamic personality yourself. Interviews
are great. If you get a great interview, that's cool,

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but that person's probably also doing four or five other interviews,
maybe ten or twenty, and they're with the interview. You
can't count on that all the time. It's all up
to guestbooking. So you have to be a dynamic personality yourself.
So find a super niche and then be consistent. The
hardest thing is to post a new episode even every week.

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It is extremely difficult, and you think once a week.
The weird thing here in my situation now is is, yeah,
I do the radio show in the morning. The weird
thing about the podcast situation is that so I do
the radio show, and I've dedicated more time to making
content for the actual radio show then I think at

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any time in my career, because now there are many
places to put the content that we make. I mean,
if you go ten years ago, it wasn't like we
were making all this content for social media and YouTube
that it was such a priority. We were, we were podcasting,
we do extra podcast stuff, but really it was we
were on four or five hours. You do the show,
you make some ancillary things, and you just pray to

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guy that people like you. Now it's so much about
we do the show, the broadcast show, and you know,
millions of people hear that in the morning live, and
that version is slightly different than the podcast version of
the show, and sometimes more than slightly different. Sometimes it's

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moderate to SIGNIFICI ghenttley different because on the broadcast part,
the radio part, I don't know why I do finger quotes,
but the radio part that you hear live, I'll say that,
like ould, the interviews will be much shorter because people
attention spans are much shorter. So we've got to find
a way to do much shorter interviews, and the interview

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itself may go on for like twenty or thirty minutes,
but it's in much shorter parts going into songs, coming
out of songs, going into the song. There's a commercial
back with that. So we have you know, I've had
to build a strategy of how can I keep people
around because nobody, including myself, we don't have attention spans anymore.
And it's like Brooks and Done, which is happening. I

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don't know when this comes out, but like Friday, like
we did thirty or forty minutes with those guys, and
you'll hear two and a half to three minutes at
a time into a song, then I'll cut all right,
Brooks is done back in a second with these guys,
will ask this question. I didn't do that live. I
did that after the fact, after the interview. And we
never do interviews live anymore because of that as well,

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because I don't want to have somebody to come up
and have to sit for two and a half minutes,
talk real quick, get into a song, commercial break, talk
for two and a half minutes, come back. Okay. But
that's the live part of it, right, it's the radio
part of it. We're just begging people give us your
attention for five seven twelve eighteen minutes. The podcast part
of it. We put the whole thing up there and
some of the stuff. Half the stuff never makes the

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air because what's presented in that live format, And I
can't say too many things about how that's I can't
really talk about ratings. What can I can say, like
we're rated good here, we're rated not good here. But
I can't really talk about the process at all because
you get in trouble doing that. But I can't put

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on a really long interview because it does not translate,
even if it is a really great interview. So we
put that all on the podcast whole thing, because podcast
listening is dedicated listening, like purposefully somebody came to the
to the show, to the podcast to hit play. They
have it in their ears. They are purposeful about I
want to hear this show and these people, where radio

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is still a bit passive, meaning people something could just
discover you and or they could be in the car
with you on and there's other people in the car
and kids. They can turn you up or down or
only kind of be listening, or they could be on
the phone while So it's definitely two different ways to

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create content. Just audio wise. But now you know, we
do three or four days a week an entire extra
half hour of us just doing what we call post show.
Sometimes we'll do a pre show too, where I used
to take some of that time before the show and
I would just do all my commercials and do all
my liners for local markets. Now we'll just hop on
and do fifteen twenty minutes because really I just need
that time to kind of talk and get loose, get warm,

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give my brain and go and make sure my voice
is fine. But now we'll do that a little before
the show. So it's like the pre show and the
post show. But between that and video content, and I
put up behind the scenes of us, like cutting station liners,
Like I've never been more dedicated to making sure that
the show is like Super served as not a radio show,

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but as a content show. And there are many things
that we can improve on too, because I think we're
coming from that mindset of hey, let's be a really
good radio show that puts our stuff on social media,
and now it's just not that anymore. Now it's outside.
We shouldn't put segments up and be like, okay, we're
all good. So we're getting there. But I also have
like twenty five Whistles, and there are all these podcast

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projects that I have, and if I'm just being honest,
I never asked to do any of them podcast wise,
And I've taken myself off the road over the past
three or four months because of all of the podcast
projects that I've either been asked to do or that
I've agreed to do, or that I am doing twenty

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five Whistles, which the show now does great. But I
never had an interest in getting back in sports. I
did sports for a long time. I did a national
weekend show on Fox Sports Radio. I did it, and
then I had Andy Roddick was my co host for
a long time, and then he went back to tennis,
and so he couldn't do it anymore. So I did

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it by myself, and like Lunchbox was like a side
guy and a couple other side guys that were like
they helped Andy and I. But I really didn't have
an interest in sports as far as if I only
have a certain amount of time in my pie, how
much pie am I giving to what I did the
NFL Draft, I thought that was fun. Draft Kings approached

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me a couple of years ago, and they approached the company,
and then together they approached me and they were like, hey,
do you want to do sports again? And I was like,
I don't know that have the capacity. I'm touring. I
think maybe I was working on a book or something.
And they were like, we would love to have you
do a show for five days every day an hour
for five days, and we pay a lot of money.

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And I did not think that I could do it
at the level that it would be. I thought I
could make it successful, going seventy five percent, but I
didn't feel like I would feel good about it, like
I wo'd feel proud of it. So I said, no,
can I do that? So it ended up being two
shows a week and then a non football one show
a week. The reason the company wanted me to do

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it is because DraftKings was investing a lot of money
in the company. They were already investing a bunch of
money in the radio show, and they wanted to just
have me do sports specific because at the time I
was the only non sports personality that DraftKings had invested
money as a radio show. And then they're like, do
a show, do a sports show? So I we started
twenty five whistles and never really wanted to, never planned to,

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but then really enjoyed it. I'm super happy we're doing
it now because it's kind of turned in this great
thing where we're getting massive guests now and we're able
to like do some pop culture stuff and some news
and then also have on the Georgia Tech head football coaches.
We get into a Notre Dame. The week before that,
we have you know, a major person out, Dan Patrick's
been on. So it's been crazy at how that has happened.

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But I never really wanted to do it. That was
something that the company had asked me to do, and
I said I'll do it. And I also am weird
about our Bobby Bone Show podcast feed, where I don't
I wish that nothing could go up there except for
the Bobby Bone Show. Now I know that is not
a reality. And whenever we agreed to the deal with DraftKings,

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it wasn't my deal to make because I don't own
that feed, but the deal was to them because they're
not going to spend a lot of money on a
podcast if it already doesn't have a following or somehow
they're not going to get a following super quick and
thinks about podcasts. Even the massive ones take a while
to build. Even the ones that build super fans still
don't build super super fast unless you're hot toua or

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there's another feed they'll put you on in order to
add stream, meaning people that are built into this feed
are also getting your show. Like I've follow Collin caw
Herb and there's four or five shows to pop up
in his feed. So what the company agreed to do
in order to meet some sort of we can get
you this many listens was they put on the Boby
Bone Show feeding. It was in the contract, and I

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was like, I don't hate it, but I didn't like
things on the feed. I don't like anything on the feed.
It's not Bobby Bone Show. So it was on the
feed and I got used to it, and now it's
there all the time. And do I like it that
it's there now? I do because I'm used to it.
It goes up two days a week. But I don't
love the idea of things not being exactly only one

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thing on those podcast feeds. And every once in a
while the company will put something like Herb Wilson's doing
a new podcast. It's on Kitty Cats and they'll throw
up a promo on that and I hate it. But
I'm own the company that show was baby. So sometimes
if you see weird stuff pop up on the podcast

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feed that has nothing to do with us, we didn't
put it there. The company put it there. Now I
get it. It's their company. They can do whatever they want.
I don't want to promote stuff in the company, So
twenty five Whistles never expected to do. I'm about to
launch a different show. I'm just gonna be careful about
what I say because we're so close to it. It

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is a different sports show, which I got a message
from one of the heads of the company going, hey,
would you do XYZ sports show? And I'm like, I
already do a sports show, Like I'm good. Like my
fulfillment with sports. It couldn't be in a better place.
We're doing two days a week on the podcast. I'm
doing too much access. We're flying to all these really
awesome places, meeting coaches, playing with players. Like it's great.

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They're like, but would you do one more one hour
a week? And my answer to that was if it's
exactly the same as what I'm doing now, no, But
if you can provide something that hasn't that I've not
been able to do on twenty five whistles. Yes, I'd
be very careful here. They were able to provide something

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and I think it will be announced soon. But I
never had a plan to do it. I never wanted
to do it. Now. Am I very excited about doing it. Absolutely,
it's gonna be awesome, But I never like search it out.
And I'll give you one other example here, aside from
the Bobbycast, which we're five hundred episodes into that now
that I do want to do. That's probably where this
will live as a matter of fact, Like I do
want to do that, and we you know, I started
that years and years ago, Mike de and I from

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a closet. But there's another A major studio reached out
and said, hey, will you do a podcast accompanying XYZ.
I didn't really want to do it, but I do
like the thing that's accompanying, meaning I didn't pursue it.
I did not want to do it, but I wasn't
like doing it already, and I was like, I don't know,

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and like companies like please because they're gonna pay us
money too, and like, yeah, I'll be I'm a team player, sure,
so they're gonna pay me too. So there's like so
many podcast things going on that that's pretty much been
all I've been dedicated to, which is weird because I
haven't really done any television in the past six months
or so, and that feels a bit weird, and you

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start to feel like, man, I've been out of it
so long. Am I ever actually gonna go backward? Does
anybody want me back at this point? But I've really
dedicated myself to all of this. But then what happens
is we're doing all these podcasts and I like to
have my own guys. I like to have all the
people that I trust do all the stuff that I
feel passionate about and so and they've all been with

(01:36:45):
me forever too, so, like you know, Mike d for example,
is an early example. He was an intern and he
did it move to Nashville with us at first, but
got him a job like working in the radio station there,
moved him here. He lived with me for a while.
Mike did and I have together twice at this point,
assistant producer. Now he's like head writer, Like he's basically

(01:37:05):
my brain. He knows where I want to go. Constantly
writing games like that's what A lot of what he's
writing is coming up with the game ideas like so important.
But like I want Mike to produce the Bobby Cast,
I want Mike to produce twenty five Whistles. Kick Off
Kevin is now one of those guys I want Kickoff Kevin.

(01:37:26):
Kickoff Kevin is a big part of twenty five Whistles.
Kickoff Kevin's part of the morning show. Now. I met
Kevin literally because he was looking for a job to
write the Countdown. I think, I think that's what a
job was. And I was like, I don't don't know,
like this dude just because he was tattooed and muscular
and I'm not. I'm just tattooed. I'm even muscular. But
like Kickoff, Kevin is so consistent, like he shows up

(01:37:49):
on time every time, great work at the great attitude.
That's ninety eight percent of being successful. But it's like,
I want kick Off Kevin to do these other project
He's going to produce the other sports deal, be the
head producer on that. I want him to do the
other thing that Again, I never really want to do
any of the extra stuff. I am doing it and
I'll be happy to do it, and I think it

(01:38:10):
will be really good. But I want him to do it.
But then the company's like, you're overextending your people, and
then I'm like, well, let's give them raises then, because
I'm really just trying to make sure they have enough money,
and then that becomes an issue. But I very much
get into I want to make sure that all my
people have all the opportunities inside of our little circle
instead of just bringing people in little job here, a

(01:38:31):
little job there. So I'm not even sure what that
question was. I think it was, how's your day? It's
going pretty good? Thank you? Is the stream still up?
We be good, We're still going Okay. You guys can
ask questions in the feed. I have a bunch here
too on my phone. What do you have thoughts on
Coach calc? So this will be the only other Arkansas

(01:38:52):
question I will answer it because I don't want this
to be a full Arkansas sports podcast. I think my
thoughts are great. I don't only have thoughts I don't
know Coach cal. I purposefully have tried not to know
Coach cal because I don't want to not like him.
I don't not like him, but I don't know them,
don't like them. But the worst thing that could happen

(01:39:14):
is I like, oh, I don't like that person and
they're coaching my favorite thing in the whole world, which
is Arkansas sports. So I don't want to, as they say,
fly too close to the sun. You know, Icarus did
that and melted and flew too close. They're like, don't
fly so close, as I like, I'm gonna do it.
So I don't want to get too friendly with people
that are a part of like the things I really love,

(01:39:34):
because if I don't like them, it's going to make
me love the thing less. But everything I hear about
Cal is this great dude. He's an awesome guy. So
I hope the basketball team does great. And if he's
there a couple of few years, I'm sure we are
going to meet bbffs or not. But I just don't
want to not like something that I love so much.
So I don't really have a personal relationship with him,

(01:39:56):
but I'm rooting for him and I think we'll be
really good this year. What else you got, I guess
people can't. You can have a microphone, but the question
is traditional radio broadcasting, So to me when someone's radio.
I just considered that anything that comes out of the phone,
that's me. You know what is radio now, it's anything
that comes out of your phone. Like, I need my

(01:40:18):
show to be good if someone's streaming it. I need
my show to be good. If someone's listening to it
through the old school transmitter transmitter yeah, trends, yeah right,
I need someone if they're watching clips on YouTube, if
they're listening to the podcast, and the term traditional radio

(01:40:40):
has changed in many ways over the last fifty years.
Is definitely not the same today as it was even
two years ago, and it will not be the same
in two years as it is now. So will it
ever die? No, just like network television has never died.
Did someone come in, Hello, my wife, thanks.

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