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June 26, 2024 34 mins

In this episode of In The Vet’s Office, actress and country musician MacKenzie Porter (Thinkin’ Bout You, Pickup) stops by with her 5-year-old Maltipoo Willa Bean. At the time of this interview, MacKenzie was days away from giving birth. Dr. Josie & MacKenzie discuss preparing your dog for a new baby in the household, Willa Bean’s near fatal gastrointestinal issues and a scary trip to the emergency vet during a Nashville ice storm. Dr. Josie also sits down with her co-host, Canadian radio personality Shannon Ella, to dive into the Case of the Week – a dog that came in sick and Dr. Josie couldn’t believe her eyes when its x-ray came back. Dr. Josie takes listener calls, gives advice on finding a solid pet-sitter, recounts her friend’s horror story with a not-so-great pet-sitter, and tells one caller what to do about her dog having accidents in its bed. Dr. Josie and Shannon wrap up the episode with PAW & ORDER. The segment where Dr. Josie gives a list of things she’d NEVER do with her pets. This week’s PAW & ORDER focuses on what Dr. Josie would keep out of her pets’ reach that they like to eat but shouldn’t. If you liked this episode, please leave a rating & subscribe!

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Yeah, you're listening to In the Vets Office with.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Doctor Josie Horshak.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Hey everyone, and welcome to in the Vets Office. I
am your host, doctor Josie, and I am joined here
by my co host Shannon Ella, who some of you
may know from Canadian country music radio.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
And this is our very first episode.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
We are excited to be here and we're going to
dive right in to Case of the Week. Case of
the Week is going to be where I read tell
stories of some of the craziest things that I have
seen while practicing as a veterinarian.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
So things that you know, you just walk into your
vet's office thinking it's like a normal day. We don't
know what's going on behind closed doors. So now Place
of the Week is always interesting.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Yeah, there's a lot going on in the trenches, if
you will, Okay, the case for this week is one
of my favorite patients. He was one of my first
that I took care of right out of school. His
name was Hondo, and he was a big old hound
and he loved to get into stuff. I mean he
would eat anything and everything, and so it wasn't not
that uncommon for him to be coming in for X

rays to figure out what he had eaten this time. Oh,
he's one of those, okay, and so erey are it's
a normal Monday. Hondo's in the hospital because he's throwing up.
He's eaten something he shouldn't have. The mom and the
daughter had brought him in and lo and behold. My
nurses call me and they say, okay, yep, Hondo's X
rays are up. Come take a look. And I am
staring at it. I'm like, are you Is.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
This what I think it is?

Speaker 3 (01:32):
And there are symbols all throughout his stomach. Hondo ate
a tambourine. Oh wow, a whole tambourine. And so I
go back into the room and I said, does anyone
play the tambourine in your house? And the little daughter
I think she was like ten maybe, and she was like,
oh my god, I've been looking everywhere for my tambourine.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Like why do you ask? I'm like, well, it's in
Hondo's stomach like he was still in yes, like in
his stomach around in two halves, okay, at least probably,
Like how did he swallow an entire tamburine? I have
one of those in my house for my son? Yeah, like,
that's a still plastic one. Yep, as a parent, did
not ever think of a dog eating that. Yeah they

I didn't either.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Really, Hondo has just exceeded all expectations in that regard.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
So not just shoes to watch out for, like remote controls, tambourines,
keep your tambourines up, people, you know what. He lives
in Nashville, though he's into the music. That's probably the music.
So he's like, all I do is listen to music.
I'm just trying to join in.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Just jingling as he walks by. But it was great.
We went in and we got it out. I definitely
played it just a little like ding ding as it
came out of the stomach, you have to. And he
went on to a totally normal life.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
He did great. Hondo's very lucky he has you. Yeah, well,
hopefully he stays out of the vet's office for a while. Yeah,
no more surgery.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
He's not welcome in the vet's office anymore. So that
was Yeah, that's our case of the week, And now
we can jump right into our listener Q and A's
We had some really good questions submitted this week, so
we'll jump into number one.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Hi doctor Josie, why do dogs like to eat their eyeboogers?

Speaker 2 (03:04):
This repulses me. I think it's gross. Yeah, it is gross,
And how do they do it?

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Also, I don't I guess maybe they're eating their like siblings.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Okay, I'm like, how do they lick them off their
own eyes?

Speaker 4 (03:20):

Speaker 3 (03:20):
I mean Also, I know some owners pick their dogs
eyebookers and feed them to them. I know that because
people have told me, and I may have done it
once or twice of my dog.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
I don't have Goosebumps's not good ones.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
There is no They don't teach you this in bet
school guys, so I have no medical background or scientific
research on this. My thought would be that maybe they're
like kind of salty and they like the salty taste
of them.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah, I was gonna say they're probably salty. You know
your eye, your tears are a little salty, so it's
probably yeah. I mean. Also, I think it's sweet. Like
our dogs used to do that, they'd clean each other's
for them, Yes, and you know what, I'd rather them
do it than me have to do it exactly, So,
I'm like, you want to eat each other's eyeboogers? Go
for it. I just don't like to think about it. Yeah,
it is gross, I agree, But hey, you know what

pets do? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (04:05):
You do?

Speaker 2 (04:05):
You do? You do? You?

Speaker 1 (04:07):

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Right? Number two on our questions, what's.

Speaker 5 (04:10):
The best way to find a really good dog sitter?
I've had really horrible luck with dogsitters. The stories I
could tell you who I won't. But what's the first
course of action I should take to find a really
exceptional dog sitter.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
I want to hear those stories. I know I won't.
Maybe we should have her on, Maybe we should. I
want to know these stories. But it's a great question.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
It's a really good question, and I have heard some
absolute horror stories. I actually had a friend the other
day tell me that she found a pet sitter on Rover.
The pet sitter came in, took off all of her clothes.
They had a furbo, a furbo camera, and so they
were able to see through the furbo that the pet
sitter took off all her clothes and then proceeded to
lay on the couch butt naked and eatable of cereal

for like the.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Whole time she was there, was just naked. Feel like,
I'm not questioning your pet care, but just your overall,
if you're a newnist, just like be up from about it. Yeah,
you kind of have to put that into resume, Like
I'm probably going to be nude at your house. Yeah,
I'm probably not going to hire you.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, exactly. So Yeah, I've heard so many horror stories.
I guess I would say if you're going to go
on rover or wag and find a pet sitter that way,
have them come over for a meet and greet beforehand,
do a couple like however many you need to do
to feel comfortable, ask them for references. I know personally,
I like never want to make someone feel like put

out or like be annoying, But when it comes to
watching your pets, like don't be afraid to ask a
lot of questions and have them comfortable times if you
need to. The other really really great place to look
is your vets office. So a lot of my nurses
will pet sit, a lot of my receptionists will pet sit,
and then you know that they have the background, they
have the training, and they have reliable jobs.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
That's a really great place to look for a pet sitter.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Last, but not least, here in Nashville, we've got some
like really awesome privately owned.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Pet sitting companies.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
Yes, they have like ten to twenty pet sitters on staff.
They're all vetted and they've done background checks. So wherever
you live, I would google like private pet sitting business
because you can find some really great ones that way.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
That's how we found ours. We found one of ours
through that and then realized that she had sat for
Abby Smyers and like Abby and Dan of Dan and
Shay and just being able to like call friends and
be like, hey, are they They seem great to us,
but are they as good as we thought? And knowing
that they are, but references from friends and family members
or your vet, yes are always great because it is

they're your children. Can leave with theay ones.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
God, No, I'm like, listen, you need to tuck my
syah in around eight thirty.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
You need to ask her how her day was. She
likes to have a pillow like manicure and pedicur at six.
It's very serious business. Yes, okay, let's hit up our
last question.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
Hi, doctor Josie. I wanted to know why my dog
and I have two dogs. Why my older dog likes
to peet in his bed. He's already gone out but
he likes to pee in his bed sometimes and I
don't know why.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Oh, I was like me, He's like, don't talk about me.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
There's a lot of reasons dogs will potty where they're
not supposed to potty. They can have urinary tract infections,
it can be a behavioral thing, it can be kidney disease.
This one specifically makes me think of them potentially having incontinence.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
So as dogs get a little.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Bit older, they can develop incontinence where typically they're laying down,
they're in their bed, or they're like laying on in
their usual spot, and they get up and there's like
a little puddle of urine and they don't know, like
they have no idea that they're going to the bathroom.
And so just with him being a little bit older
and going in his bed, that's really one of the
first things that comes to mind. But I do recommend, like,

of course, we want to rule out a urinary tract infection,
make sure his kidneys are normal. If all of that
comes back normal, he probably has incontinents and we can
get them on medication and they do great.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah, my older dog, God rests Phoebe. She when she
hit like twelve. It wasn't all the time. It got
worse as she got older, but she would get in
these deep sleeps in the day and I'd walk home
and be like, oh, man, so I just got a
waterproof pad that like went under so that I wasn't
constantly washing the dogbed. Yeah, and you know what, like

when she was a puppy, if she had been doing that,
I would be like, Okay, we're potty training. But when
they get older, it's just like they can't help it.
And she didn't have a uti, it was just ye control. Yes, honestly,
we can see it in our younger dogs too. Really,
it's spade females. We've come to find that that estrogen
or lack thereof because their spade makes them prone to incontinence.

So typically, like are a lot of times it can
be like a four or five year old female that's
been spaded, And definitely talk to you about it because
there's some great medications out there that can get it
completely under control. So and if it's a female that's
had puppies, I don't know if it's similar to women
that I've had children, but just leave her alone, Okay, Yeah,
I don't know if there's any similarly by sneezes. Yeah,
we're jumping around. Just let her go. Oh that's funny.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
All right, great, well those are some great questions today's episode.
I'm super excited for We both share her as a
mutual friend. That's actually how we met.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
I know, yes, I don't even realize Mackenzie Porter. Yeah yeah,
so churls night and I go was like horse girl, Vet,
I love you already.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yeah yeah, we definitely bonded right away. So today we're
going to have the beautiful and incredibly talented Mackenzie Porter
in the Vets Office. Not only is she our friend,
but you also probably know her from her lead role
on the Netflix series The Travelers or her booming music career.
Her and Dustin Lynch spent many weeks in the number

one spot on country music radio for their song Thinking
About You.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
I still love that song too. I'm super excited to
have her on today. Coming up next, Mackenzie Porter with
Doctor Josie. Welcome to in the Vets Office, Mackenzie Porter.
I know.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Colligannurferdi is Mac this entire episode And for listeners out
there that can't see us, we are twinning today. We
came pretty much in the exact same outfit, and this
was not planned.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
I know.

Speaker 6 (10:07):
This means we're good friends. We're on the same waveleg exactly.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
So we got your intro out of the way, and
now we need to get to the real star of
the show. Here we have on this podcast, we call
it b YOD Bring your Own Dog. So tell us
a little bit about miss Willa, this little.

Speaker 6 (10:22):
Beast, we call her the beast. She her name's Willa.
Her name's Willa Bean okay.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Porter Ethridge.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
She has the full name Willa Bean Porter Ethri.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yes, a star, a.

Speaker 6 (10:33):
Star, and she is almost five year old multi poo poo,
which is like very uncole like.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
I remember my husband when I was like, we're getting
a multi poo poo.

Speaker 6 (10:42):
He's like any other dog, any other Like there's no
there's nothing cool about that dog.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
And now he's obsessed with her.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
So we're here. She's like palling at me. A multi
poo poo. So we've got a Maltese and a poodle, yeah,
or a double poodle.

Speaker 6 (10:54):
I think she was like bred a multipoo, uh huh,
and then a multie been made with another.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Poodle, maybe with another heard the poo poo.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yes, okay, I love that. And how old is Willebane?

Speaker 6 (11:06):
So she's almost five August she'll be five almost five.
Love that.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
And you have recently announced that you are expecting a
baby girl?

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Do you think that she knows?

Speaker 6 (11:18):
So it's funny, like I feel like the very beginning,
I was like she has to know because she kept
kind of cuddling my tummy and like wanting to be
near me.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
And now I don't know.

Speaker 6 (11:28):
Like it's you know, it's hard to say, like she
definitely smells my tummy a lot, okay, because I feel
like you, I mean, dogs obviously can sense that kind
of thing. I think she's I wouldn't say she's the
sharpest tool in the shed, but she is very cuddly,
improtective of me. Like even the other day Jake was
like tickling me or I can't remember, he wasn't tickling me,
Like he went to grabb me for a hug or something,
and she would start barking at him.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
So she's more protective. And I think that's since the pregnancy.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
I hear a lot of women say that that they
become more protective when they're pregnant. So you're not the
first time.

Speaker 6 (11:58):
She's kind of the most like beauty. I love that
so much, like that a dog can just sense like
a new family member. Yeah, I don't know that.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
They're just they're so aware.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
How do you think she'll do when you bring the
baby home?

Speaker 6 (12:11):
So we we always talk about this, like, I think
she loves kids. We have neighbors that have kids, so
I feel really confident about that. We've also just been like,
we have to make sure we give her attention. Still, yes,
but I think it'll be fine, Like we're gonna do
the whole like let the baby lay in the blanket
and then let her smell the blanket and then introduce
her to the baby.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
But I feel like she'll be totally fine.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
I mean, I know her, so I think so. But
I do think that's really important for listeners out there.
If you know you're gonna want a family, exposing your
dog and getting them desensitized and socialized with kids is
so important because yeah, I mean, it's gonna be a
huge part of your life. And I will be interested
to hear your feedback on the age old question of
do you love your human children more than your fur children?

Because I'm convinced I won't.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
I mean too that makes me like cry.

Speaker 6 (12:58):
Yeah, being like i've her, people would be like, oh,
you won't even care what your dog anymore, And I'm.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Like that breaks my heart right now.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
It's not possible.

Speaker 6 (13:06):
It's not I mean, I think, you know, we have
enough love to go around, and I'm sure like there
will be times where it's annoying if she's barking, the
baby wakes up or whatever, or like taking her out
and we're just kind of like swamped will be a challenge,
But I just don't think I could love her, no,
any of us.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
No, I don't think so either. So you know, you're
a musician, you're on tour a lot. Has she gone
on tour with you? And how does she do?

Speaker 6 (13:32):
She does so well. I'm like so impressed with her.
I like' just a proud mom. She does so well.
So we her big tour was we did like.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
A run with Dan and Shay and you know, I
feel like those guys are like dog people too, totally.

Speaker 6 (13:47):
So it was amphitheaters and she loved it and like
everybody loved her backstage and of course like when the
show's going her sound check that's.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Like loud and scary for her.

Speaker 6 (13:56):
But we would just saw her back on the bus
and she was fine. She was totally fine, and she flown.
She's a really good traveler. She loves car rides. So
I think because we did that, like very early on
in her life, that she's pretty used to that.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
She's such a like an entertainer's dog.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
She is, for sure, Yeah, she is.

Speaker 6 (14:12):
And she loves music and she loves like I mean,
she is in Jake's studio with him recording every single day,
and that's just her life.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
She's a studio pup.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
So Max's husband, Jake is also a very talented musician.
Have either you or Jake written a song about her?

Speaker 6 (14:26):
Or we definitely have written like joke songs, Yeah, like
nothing's making.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
My record like at home that you'll sing to her.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yes, she's a theme song.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Will you maybe give us one little hint of what
that sounds like?

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Do you remember the show Pepraham? Yeah? Do you remember it?

Speaker 2 (14:43):

Speaker 1 (14:44):
So her theme song is will le Me, will le Be.
She's stio coover seventh grade willa bean. It's like a
million is amazing. She's like ready for her walk.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
She's like who that's so cute. It's actually so funny.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Like I would love to do an episode of just
like crazy that people say at home to their animals
when no one's listening or watching, because I know what
I say, and it's.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
You seem like very similar tiktoks where it's like what.

Speaker 6 (15:10):
Your dog's name is? And then like how you got
to like what you actually call your dogs? Yes, and
like the progression of like nicknames. So sly, that's funny.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
I love it. When we had first met, I think
Willa was just kind of starting to have some of
her gi issues. And I know that this has been
a long journey that you guys have been on as

far as her tummy issues. Do you mind kind of
just giving us like a recap of of what you
guys have been through totally?

Speaker 6 (15:48):
So she the first, like I guess this would be
like the first like two and a half years of
her life, no issues at all, just like healthy and
everything was totally fine. And then we moved. That was
kind of when we started hanging out a lot, you know. Yeah,
we moved into a new house and one night Jake
came home, I was out of town, and she had

like thrown up had diarrhea. There was blood in the diarrhea,
like all over our bedroom, all over the walls, like
it was crazy, like she had gone in the shower,
our bed, the walls. It was like a murder scene
in there.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah, and he it's really hairy, very scary.

Speaker 6 (16:23):
And I didn't know at the time, like if dogs
have like blood in their stool, it's a lot more
normal than like a human. Yeah, it's not as scary,
but we didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (16:32):

Speaker 1 (16:33):
So that was the first.

Speaker 6 (16:34):
Like indication of anything wrong with her. So that night,
Jake took her into emergency and he told me the
other day, so I was asking him just to remind me,
and he stayed there till five in the morning with
her shuvet in the parking lot.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Was this in the ice storm?

Speaker 6 (16:49):
This was this had to be a little bit before
the ice storm. Okay, this was the first incident.

Speaker 1 (16:55):

Speaker 6 (16:55):
And at that point it was just like, you know
what you and I've talked about, like probably has right
tummy issues, Let's put her on mechanitis al yep. So
we did that and that did help for like a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
She wants to like I am for those of you
who cannot see. I've been holding her paw that she's
sitting on her mom's lab and I'm holding her.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Paw in the middle of it.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Loves the attention.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
She knows she's a star.

Speaker 6 (17:18):
And so you know, we kind of thought that was
maybe just like a one off. Yeah, and I think
like poodle and usually it is yeah and poodle like you,
I think you told me this, Like, poodle breeds have
a lot of tummy issues.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Right, Yes, they can be like all of our I
call them dudes, all of our like doodle mixes, can
have really sensitive tummies, and so we can see from
time to time them having gi upset. Willi's case is
much more extreme extreme for sure.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah, so that's kind of how it started.

Speaker 6 (17:48):
And then the metronizle it did help for a bit,
and then we didn't take her off, but we kept
her on it for a while, and then slowly things
started to get worse again. And then it was like
a series of switching foods and trying like we tried
like alligator protein and like ostrich protein, like all these
different things that we were trying to do to like
see if she was allergic or whatever.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Nothing was working.

Speaker 6 (18:11):
Now this was probably you know, a month or two
months of trial and error. And at that point, this
was a snowstorm that I was telling you about probably
two years ago.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
It was like.

Speaker 6 (18:22):
Nashville shuts down, the roads are all ice ice. And
I was sitting on the couch one day. She was
not doing well.

Speaker 1 (18:30):

Speaker 6 (18:31):
I mean, now she's like thirteen pounds the time, she's
trowbably seven, right, and we were going into the vet regularly, yeah,
just like trying to figure it out.

Speaker 1 (18:37):

Speaker 6 (18:39):
And I remember waking up that morning and being like,
I think she's gonna die because she wouldn't eat, she
wouldn't drink. She smelled so bad, like you could almost
smell her eating her muscle or something.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
Like, yeah, like wasting away almost, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (18:53):
And she couldn't hold like any bowels in, like it
was like we had diapers on or it was so bad.
So I remember saying to Jake, like, we have to
drive out to emergency, even on these roads. I had
a little car at the time, Like, I don't care
if this.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Is yeah daughter.

Speaker 6 (19:07):
Yeah, And so we drove out there and that night
she stayed for two nights out in an emergency. They
put her on an ivy and I think they even
maybe put her under I can't remember exactly, but put
her on IVY because she was so dehydrated. And at
that point it was like, hey, we got to add
an additional medicine of steroid.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
So we did that.

Speaker 6 (19:28):
The steroid worked for a while and then again stop working,
stopped working. The last thing that we ended up adding
was cyclist worm, which is IMMANI supressing because I guess
her body was like, yeah, fighting itself.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah, And I remember we had X rays.

Speaker 6 (19:44):
You remember I was over at your house and I
showed you that and it was just like, what is
going on going on in her little you know, intestines
kind of So this is all over like six months
and just so frustrating. I'm on the road, you know,
we can't get her.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
To be healthy. We're wondering like is she eating something?
Is she allergic? Something? Like why isn't of this medicine working.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
I remember a lot of phone calls with you being like,
I feel so bad, I'm gone, I'm traveling. Jake's at
home dealing with this. She's so sick, and partially we thought,
you know, is this stress related too? Because you are
gone in and out, So it's like you can really
guilt trip yourself into feeling responsible and bad about it.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, and and just like.

Speaker 6 (20:28):
You know, we've talked so much about Like in my head,
I was like, well, what's what's the answer, Like there
should be one answer, like what's wrong with her?

Speaker 1 (20:35):
And how do we fix it?

Speaker 2 (20:36):

Speaker 6 (20:36):
And they're just there wasn't and there's still isn't necessarily
a full answer. She has been She did do a scope.
They went inside and like scoped her YEP, said like
her intestines were basically like flaking apart, just like so sensitive,
and diagnosed her with irritable bowel disease.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
Yes, inflammatory bowel disease, Yeah exactly, yeah IBD. So and
there's like a wide range of IBD and cats and dogs,
and in her case it's i'd say, pretty significant. And
so that's how we have her on these steroid and
amino suppressive medications because essentially their GI tract is just
so inflamed and almost like it's attacking itself that those
medications say, hey, calm down and keep that inflammation at bay.

One thing that I know we have talked about is
being a vet. I see so much GI upset every
single day. I see dogs of vomiting and diarrhea, and
owners want answers right away.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
They are just like, why is this happening? And we
will run tests.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
And a really hard thing for me is I'll run
tests and I'll come in and I'll say, I still
don't know why this is happening. But we run those
tests to say, we can rule out a lot of
bad things. So the blood work can rule out kidney disease,
liver disease, the X rays can rule out that they've
eaten something that they shouldn't have. So although the tests
may not always give us the answer, I can at
least tell us what it's not a lot of the times,
and GI disease is so ambiguous and there's so many

different things that can cause it that a lot of times,
if they're not getting better and Willa's case, we really
have to cast a very wide net to figure out
what's going on. And it can take time, and it
requires patience on the owner's end. You guys have been
I feel like we're so patient with it, but it
can be hard when you're your fergile is sick.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
It can be really stressful. It's expensive, it's very expensive.
The work up.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
There's this misconception that vets just want to run tests
and make money, but the reality is that sometimes we
have to run a bunch.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Of tests in order to to get to the bottom
of it.

Speaker 6 (22:32):
So totally, and I think that's like medical with humans too,
Like you have to, yeah, say it's not all these
things before you can yeah, before you can you know,
rule them out. And I think rule out those common things,
all the common things that it most of the time
is exactly which it wasn't for her, which which it
was frustrating for us and you know, scary, and I've

kept failing like what are we missing? Yeah, or like
that I was like a crappy dog mom, yeah, you know,
because I feel like she is from a breeder and
I thought maybe that would have less issues.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
I don't know, maybe.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Yeah, It's crazy how I hear that all the time,
dog owners being like what am I doing wrong? Like
I feel like a crabby dog parent. And it is
a lot of times just out.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Of our hands. It is just the way it is.
So and it's the same with humans too.

Speaker 1 (23:21):

Speaker 3 (23:22):
So no, nothing you did wrong and of anything, like
you the way you and Jake candled it was really amazing.
In fact, one thing that I took away from it
is there's such a stigma with veterinarians and veterinary staff
that when the husband brings the dog in, we're always like,
oh God, here we go, because we'll be like, what
prevention is your pet on? And they're always like, I
don't know. Let me ask my wife, what's your dog eat?

I don't know, let me ask my wife. We're like,
why did you even send him in the first place.
But Jake has like totally broken the mold for me.
He is like the best dog dad. Not that you're
not an amazing dog mom, but he like stepped up
in such a big way.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
He really did.

Speaker 6 (23:56):
He loves her so much, he loves animals so much,
and he's home more than I'm home, right, So she
has been. She's a very high maintenance dog and like
on such a specific schedule and has to come in
all the time. And he yeah, it's like it's kind
of cool now that I'm like having a baby, yea,
to see to have seen him be a.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Bit of a dad already.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah to her and like have.

Speaker 6 (24:19):
Have this routine and responsibility. And I mean he literally
texts me this morning because he had to go early.
And he's like, did you give her her medicine? And
I'm like, yes, I'm not completely incapable.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yeah, but he is.

Speaker 6 (24:30):
He's really good and he's taken the charge and the
lead on a lot of her medical stuff. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
I love that, and I feel like you got such
a good one, and it translates over to how he
will be a dad.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Even the other day we were out Mackenzie and ire
at brunch and you ordered a mocktail and he was
like to the waiter, please make sure this is a
mocktail because she is pregnant.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
I felled over you. I told him after, I'm like,
you don't need to do that. Every time.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
I loved it so much. I just feel like he's
a gem and he has broken the the husbands stigma
for me. So tell him thanks that.

Speaker 6 (25:03):
Will I will definitely he I think like the one
thing that you know, this journey with her, like when
you get a dog, When we got a dog, just
completely like I grew up on a ranch with a
ton of animals, but we never had like an inside animal.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Yeah, Like we had.

Speaker 6 (25:18):
Outside dogs, and I never had like taken care of
a dog. Or anything really you know, another living thing.
And I think, like I just didn't expect to have
a dog that like had so many issues. But it
really has like taught us as a couple to like
how to take care of something and like how to

keep on schedule and how to keep like I don't know,
it's kind of prepped us for I think.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Having a baby.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Yeah, it's probably.

Speaker 6 (25:46):
Gonna be like eighteen million times harder, but it has
put us like on the right kind of road.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
It teaches you how to be a partnership. You're like
working together to take care of this thing that you love,
and it can be really challenging, but that's amazing.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
I love that. And I do hear so many people
that are like, you know, I grew up with outdoor
dogs or on a farm, Like I never had this
creature that I'm tucking into bed at night and and
that you.

Speaker 6 (26:08):
Love so much, Like it is as a child, Like
we always say, you know that the whole process with
her and even now monthly like our doggie bills are insane,
but like she is the one thing in our life
that brings us the most joy.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Yeah, Like why would we Yeah, why skimp on that? Yeah,
and unconditional love. Yeah, they're just the best. What else
am I going to have my money on?

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Totally? And it's like, if why do we work so
hard if we can't spend on.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
The things exactly? Some people like design her bags. I
like to spend my money on my Dog's just the
way it is. So now Willa is back to baseline.
Based on what I know, it sounds like she's doing
very well. We've got her on she's still on medications,
but on the lowest dose for her, which is a
very low dose. And so you know now that she's
doing great and back to her normal self. What are

like some fun quirky things that Willa does?

Speaker 6 (26:54):
Okay, my favorite thing that she does. I brought a
toy to see if she'll do it. She's like very
distracted by you, but if she me to hold it, yes,
if you can squeak it, it's like in the head. Okay,
she should and that helps to embarrass me, but she
should lick her lips every time you speak it.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Okay, ready, Willa, did she do it? Oh my god?
Every time I squeak this toy, she's licking her lips
every time. Go come, Come, Come.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
That is so and then she's also like another thing
that I think is so.

Speaker 6 (27:29):
Sweet is she loves to shower.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Yes, so if I'm in the shower or Jake's in.

Speaker 6 (27:34):
The shower, she will stand at the door and she
will cry until you open the door. She'll walk straight
into the stream, put her little head in the water,
and she's like a human takes a shower with us.
And sometimes I'm like, it's probably like too hot in here,
too warm, so I'll kind of push her to the
corner of the shower right back into the water.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
I just feel like.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
That's like scared of very unusual, right, Yes, she's scared
of like the beach or lakes or anything.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
But a shower.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
She loves a shower, he loves I feel like I
can see Jake like being naked holding her in the shower,
like literally, Yeah, they are a sight to be seen
that it's hilarious.

Speaker 6 (28:08):
She's a little sweetheart and has has been a lot,
but she's also just it's so good to see her
now herself again.

Speaker 5 (28:15):

Speaker 3 (28:15):
I mean she's really filled out, She's been on some weight,
and you know, even when she wasn't feeling good, she
still was her peppy self. But even now, more than ever,
she seems super spunky and happy and and ready to
go before baby Athridge comes.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
I know, I know she'll be a good little sister.
She will for sure, or a big sister.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yes, well, thank you so much for coming in today.
We loved having you. Yeah yeah, and miss Willa, you
are the star of the show.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Thank you for being my like person. I'd get to
text and be like, is this okay with my dog?

Speaker 6 (28:43):

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Is this normal? What should I do? You've been amazing,
So you're so welcome.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
I'm honored. That was Mackenzie Porter, who we both know
and love, and I am so glad that you got
to have her be a part of this because both
of us being friends of hers. Obviously you are her

dog's vet. But I have heard so many stories about
Willa throughout the years of what she's gone through. And
so if you want to follow Mackenzie Porter on Instagram
because probably when this episode is out, I believe she'll
probably be a new mom, which is very exciting. But
you can also keep up with Willa on her Instagram
because she always posts the most adorable photos and videos
and updates of her Yes, she does, She's so cute

and she's wild, but she is like I feel like
Mackenzie got a little bit of an intro into being
a parent because Willa is like her baby.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Yeah, exactly, she's gonna be She's gonna being a mom
will be smoothie.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Oh yes, smooth Saalely. She's been through a lot with Willa.
She has, Yes, you guys have clearly, as you guys
talked about, had a lot of work to do with Willa.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yes. All right.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Next up, we're going to dive right into Paw and Order.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
This is a segment where as a veterinarian, I tell
you what I would definitely not with my pets at home.
In this particular Pall and Order, we're going to really
focus on things that our pets like to eat that
we probably aren't thinking about on an everyday basis. Number one,
they love to eat dirty socks and dirty underwear, so
make sure you put them in your hamper. That extra

second is going to save you money and heartbreak, because
if they do eat your socks and underwear, nine times
out of ten, I have to go in and get
them out surgically, and that's not fun for anyone. I've
also had taken out some panties before where they don't
belong to your significant other, and that's a very awkward conversation.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
We'll save that for a case of the week. But
it's better for everyone.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
So just put them up, keep them high, and your
pets will thank you, and so will I. I would
also never leave my medications or weed or any kind
of drug paraphernalia unattended.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Dogs love weed brownies, so do cats and cats and
cats they're like cat this is delicious.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
And I have so many pets that come in just completely.
We call it stony baloney. They're so stoned and it's
we make light of it, but it's really not funny
because they are super duper sick. They're like urinating on themselves.
It can't keep their head up.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
So although you may love to indulge in it, keep
it far and away from your animals. Yes, definitely.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
I would also never leave the door to my garage open.
Dogs love when shield viper fluid. I don't remember exactly why.
I think it's sweet.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
I think that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
But if they ingest when shield viper fluid, it is
like nine one one emergency. If they're not hospitalized right away.
It is almost always fatal.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
No way. Yeah, I never would have thought of that.
That's crazy. They also like rat poison, So if you
ever had, I do know because growing up on a
horse farm we have all those boxes and like catch
our dogs with their noses in it all the time,
and I'm like, no ip rap, bait and poison. Keep
that ad Number four.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
I would never leave my bathroom trash can fold or
just out in the open, like, keep it under your
sink if you can. Dogs really love used tampon.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
It is so gross. It's gross.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Then it's even more gross when we have to go
in and get them out a couple, you know, a
week later. So yeah, keep that trash can up and away.

Speaker 1 (32:11):

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Number five, Last, but not least, I would never ever
ever leave my hair ties or dental floss unattended around cats.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Cats love string. They have like an affinity for it.
Oh yeah. I had actually one of my patients we
were taking an X ray of its knee and had
torn its like acl ligament, and it moved right at
the last second, and so we accidentally got a little
bit of its stomach on the x ray and it
was full of hair ties.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
I think when we went to take them out. I
think it was forty eight to two hair ties. What, yes,
just an incident finding just chilling in its stomach.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
He's like my knee also away. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Our cat is crazy and he choose through every cord
in our home. How he has lived to tell the
tale blows my mind. But he just like gnaws through it.
He chows through, like any of my shoelaces. If I
leave my shoes on the ground and he's around, he's
just like, yeah, I'm gonna sever that for you. I'm
like tweaking over here. I no, yeah, he's I know,
we have to. We have literally kitty prooved our whole

house because he is they do have nine lives. Maybe
I need to bring up over see if he has
forty two. I know we should just take an X
ray's like seventeen electrical cord, no kidding, And we should
probably add on there as far as our case of
the week, when if you have tambourines laying around, yeah,
those two you know what, I didn't even think about that.
Hundstle instruments. Keep them up, Yeah, just in case Marocas tambourines.
You just never know exactly. You can never be too safe.

But this episode was so fun. I feel like we
got to learn a lot and we got to also
find out some really fun information from Mackenzie Porter, who
of course we both love.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Yes, and if any of you have any questions about
your pets, feel free to click the link in the
show notes.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
You can leave me a voice message there.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
It's also in the link in my Instagram bio and
you can always DM me at doctor Josie Vett. Please
give us a like anywhere you listen to your podcasts
and subscribe.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Awesome. We will see you next time in the vet's
office with Doctor

Speaker 1 (33:58):
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