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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to Amy and Cat Chat. We still
have a name. Fifth Thing episode to the Four Things
podcast where I go over emails that you have sent in. Today,
we're gonna be tackling an email from Amber. But before
we get into that, Cat has a quote. She's going
to share it with us. So this came from Annie F. Down.
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I heard this on her That Sounds Fun podcast which
she was talking to Dave Barnes and John McLaughlin about life,
and she said, if we are deciding if our life
is okay by looking at someone else's life, we are
always going to come up one thing. Yeah, where it's
like comparing yourself constantly to somebody else, somebody will always
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have something that you want. I love that you heard
her say that on the podcasting you pulled it and
put it up on your Instagram, gave her credit. Yeah,
of course. Yeah. Annie Downs love her so much, like
she's one of my favorite people to have on the podcast,
and I've also done her podcast, and I love that.
She's also super excited about our four Things puzzle that
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we're coming out with. She was one of the first
people to comment when I posted about it, and so
I got her on the list, like, we're going to
send her one and I can't wait for her to
put it together because she loves puzzles and you and
she gets to be part of the team you love puzzles.
I feel like one day when it gets closer to
the actual puzzle coming out out officially it's being made
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and we're doing a pre sale, but when people can
actually get it in their hands, I feel like you
and I need to do an episode on the benefits
of puzzles. I think now I will say I think
that I did that on one of the episodes that
I hosted for you. I think one of my things
was puzzles. Well, that's okay, we'll do to get it again.
Because Kat was one of the kind people that helped
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fill in when I was taking a break, because I
had a lot going on in life, and thankfully I
had a team of people around me that were able
to swoop in and fill in when I needed to
step away and take a mental health situation. And I
I realized that I was very blessed to be able
to do that, and not everybody has the time or
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the access, or the resources, or the friends or the
coworkers or the team that can step in and fill in,
so yes, I'm happy to do it. I didn't hear
your puzzle things, so we can do that's also the
time that you became enthralled with puzzles. Yes, yeah, I
would have Mary, and I would have never made a
puzzle if I didn't go through that. So some cool
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things do come out of the bad. There's rainbows at
the end of the storm. Dolly Pardon said something like that, Yeah,
you have to get through the rain to get to
the rainbow. I'm paraphrase Dolly, but she said something like that.
She actually I put together a puzzle of her saying that, yes,
speaking a puzzle, there's rainbows at the end of the storm.
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I paraphrase things in my own words. But stay tuned
for the puzzle four things dot com. I'm so excited
about it. Make sure you're following me on Instagram if
you're not. Radio Amy is where you can buy me,
and then at shop s Boa. I run that account
because we're making the puzzle under there to support Haiti.
And then since we're giving out Instagrams, you should follow
Cat too. She's at cat dot. The FATA was cat
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the Fata not available? No dot I don't think it
was available. Okay, obviously not. I can go back and look,
but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have put the dot
there available. Who has that name? I don't know. It
doesn't seem like it would be a very common name.
There is another Amy Brown. She's a fairy artist, and
that's why I don't have Amy Brown dot com. I
have Radio Amy dot com, but Amy Brown dot com
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is taken, and she draws ferries and sells fairies online
or something. She's an artist and that's the story behind that.
If anyone's ever been curious, which I'm sure they're not, Wait,
Cat defat it is available. Oh you should get that now.
We just told everybody that's cat dot de fata. That's okay.
It'll still cross, so it'll be fine. I don't know.
I think you you change your handle, nothing else will
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change about your followers. I don't know why you didn't
do that. I have no idea. But here we're working
this out on the podcast. Okay. I want to get
into the email that I got from Amber, because she's
speaking of Instagram. Saw something that I posted, which I
saw someone else put up this meme. So I have
no idea where the original credit lies. But it was
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just a saying that. You know, it's just a blank
background with the text that says every time the universe
sends me a sign, I'm like, okay, but I think
I'll wait for a signier sign. And of course I
had some people commenting in there and be like, you mean, God,
is this? Is this a meme even though there's not
a picture. I guess, I guess. I don't know. I
don't know what constitutes a meme. I'm not quite sure,
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but I'm calling it after the sake of this. I
saw this and I thought it was funny because so
whatever it looks like to you, whether it is God,
the universe, your intuition, whatever you feel, is giving you signs.
This made me L O L when I saw it
because I am someone that is constantly looking for a
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sign of your sign, Like, Okay, I get that that
was a clear sign, but I need more of a sign,
Like you need more confirmation or you want the sign
to be different. No, I need more. I don't need this. Well,
the sign could be totally different, but it's going to
give me the affirmation it's the sign, your sign or
I'm just delaying the inevitable, and I want an excuse
to not proceed because I'm like, well, maybe it's not
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what I need to do, so well, let me go back.
I don't even know if I address Camber's original email,
but she basically sent me an email after she saw
me post that, and she's like, oh my gosh, this
is me to a t. And I don't know if
you have any thoughts on how we can not be
this person, and she's like, what are you doing to
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work on that? And I'm like, okay, Well, first of all,
I just kind of put this up because it made
me l O L. But it made me think Kat
and I should have a talk about this, because what
am I doing when I'm really looking for the sign?
Ear sign? And then if I really were to assess
my life and put pin to paper on it, I
would probably lead to the conclusion that I'm avoiding taking
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responsibility for certain things that I need to do and
taking action because the action terrifies me. So I want
all the signs, and until I get all the signs,
I'm not going to do it. So are you avoiding risk?
That could be part of it. I'm avoiding risk disapproval.
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What I'm supposed to do point blank before I make
any movement, and that's my signary sign, Like I need
God to come down to stand in front of me
and say this is your sign. And He's likely not
going to do just that. So therefore some of the
things i'll I may never do because I'm not going
to get the sign that I need. Now, this could
lean the other way. I'm sure I have examples in
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my life where I'm like, I just need one extra
push to go do it, and if I get the
extra sign, your sign, then okay, I go do it.
But if I were to really assess why this hit
me and made me l O L and like what
I'm doing, there's things in my life at this very
moment that I do not do because I'm scared and
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I need all the signs before I do it, so
I'm not doing it. It's fear, That's what it is.
It's fear. I'm scared. And what am I scared of.
I will tell you a lot of things centered around
what I'm thinking of them. Particular, it's got to be
disapproval because I fear not being approved of by people.
I fear judgment. I fear. I don't know, I feel
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we also fear of relationships and how kinds of things
being damaged. When I think about this, I'm trying to
like where and what parts of my life. I'm like,
I want to sign your sign. I don't want to
be wrong, so I need a sign your sign so
I know that I'm not going to make the wrong decision,
not so I won't disappoint somebody because I just don't
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want to be wrong, but something that is very helpful
that it's a very therapistic thing to say, but also
like in life you can just say this is like okay,
well what would happen if you're wrong? Or what would
happen if you from it? What would happen if you
disappointed somebody? A great question to ask when you're like, well,
I don't know, I need another push, I need to
extra what are you afraid of? What if that would happen?
Then on and keep asking like what's the worst that
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could happen? Because a lot of times, I mean, we
can catastrophize, but a lot of times like whatever the
worst that could happen, you can survive that, right, and
I make of a deal in your head as you
make it up to be. I will often look at
other people and examples of things, and I'm like, well,
they're fine, Yeah, why do I think like I wouldn't
be fine? And I think what also looking for the
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sign or sign does for me is it? And I
may be touched on this a minute ago. I don't
know if I ever said it out loud. Do you
ever have that where you're like, I said it in
my head, but I don't know if I voiced it.
But it also frees me up for taking responsibility for
my life. That's why I tell my therapist all the time,
like I want you to make my decisions for me,
and I don't want to make the decision. How does
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that person respond to you when you say that? My therapist,
she's like, well, I can't make decisions for you, so
you're gonna have to. You're gonna have to take this responsibility.
But if I'm going to have to take responsibility, I
want the sign your sign, So then I also can
blame it on the sign. M I didn't think about that,
so I can't be like, oh I thought because this
butterfly landed it on my hand and I felt like
that was a sign to make that decision. Okay, No,
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it's like I had a sign that said do this,
and so I can blame it on that. And you
know another thing that comes alongside fear that I didn't mention,
it's just being uncomfortable. It's uncomfortable if you're having to
do something that you don't want to do. And I
don't like being uncomfortable. I don't want to feel I know.
I know you're gonna say, who wants to feel uncomfortable?
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Some people maybe thrive in feeling uncomfortable. They're like, oh,
this feels unfamiliar and uncomfortable. I'm I'm here for this.
I'm not that. I mean, I'm sure there's somebody I'm
not that. But I was laughing because I like that
you can just predict what I say. I know what
you're gonna say. Well, because I feel like I have
a handle on I'm basically a therapist because I hang
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out with you. Just kidding. I do not put myself
in that category because you know what I would do,
just because of how I retain information, which isn't always
the best. I'd be the therapist. That's like, you know,
I once read somewhere once there are rainbows after storms,
so you should do a session be like well, Dolly
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Barton once said, I learned in school that No. I mean,
I'm thankful that you have a gift and you're an
amazing therapist, and you've put in many hours to get
your degree, and you have many hours of practice as well,
and that I have you next to me, but ye're
up time. But I do pick up sometimes on what
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you're gonna say. Also, I'm in a lot of therapy,
so I probably know even I do that to my therapist,
Like I like, I'm going to say that, and I
know what you're going to say after I say it,
but I feel like I just have to say it
because I know that I'm wrong, but I'm telling you
what my thoughts are. But wait a second, that is
literally what we're talking about. And that's why therapists don't
tell you what to do. That's one of the reasons.
It's because we want you to have agency and power.
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And usually you know more than you want to think,
or you think that you know, like you know what
to do, you know what the right decision is or
what the decision that you feel is. You know, but
you want somebody else to co sign and push you
so you can offset responsibility, which I don't want. Amber.
You don't need the sign of your sign. You you
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know more than you know, but sometimes when you have trouble,
more trusting that you know, you know more than you
think you know. Right, But sometimes we don't trust ourselves,
so we have to learn how how do I build
trust within myself. That's a lot of what therapy is
is learning how to trust myself versus putting all of
my trust and other people. Because you're going to know
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yourself better than you You're you're always going to know
yourself better than anybody else. I'm never going to be
able to know you better than you know yourself. And
I hate that quote. It's like they know me better
than I know myself. No, they don't. They are not
inside your head. You just don't trust yourself as much
as you probably should. You know more, you understand more,
but you put up or we create these lies that
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we don't and that other people have more knowledge or
more expertise or more whatever in our lives. But it
doesn't have to be the case. Scary stuff sign you
don't need to sign your sign trust. But the meme
did make me, I thought. I think. I responded to
it and was like, this is hilarious because me too,
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and Amber and everyone else listening, because clearly this is
a popular thing. Like my friend Kelly whose velvet edge
on Instagram, like, she put a comment she's like always
Walker Hayes fancy like Applebee's on a date night. I
love him. I'm so happy that song is blowing up
for him. It just warms my heart because he's so
cool and awesome and now he's in an Applebee's commercial.
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It's crazy because he went viral on TikTok. His life
has changed. That is wild. It's so cool. So anyway,
he put laughing face emoji's Sissan Raymundo from The Bobby
Bones Show was like, ha, I mean, so this is
something that resonates with people. My friend Jill, she put, yes,
it could not come at a better time. Thanks for sharing.
That's to me saying that we're all a little bit nervous.
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One of my other friends replied to Jill, putting that
comment my thing. She said, we could all use a
sign your sign l o L So like everyone out
there is, you're not alone. So just know that it's
okay to have those thoughts, but try to dig deep.
I'm trying to think of something like therapists like to say,
grab your shovel and dig a little deeper to get
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to the root of why you are needing a sign,
ear sign, and then work from there and know that
you have the power to make your own decisions and
you know yourself better than anybody. You have the shovel.
We're gonna start a series called Inspirational Metaphors by Amy.
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I mean, wasn't it on Outweigh or was it on
your podcast where I gave the plate analogy like I
used to. Oh good yeah, which speaking of cats podcast,
y'all can check it out is called You Need Therapy
wherever you listen to podcasts. And thank you Amber so
much for your email and I would love to hear
from all of you, and I hope you all are
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