After sharing listener Taylor's incredible 300-day deployment update last week, she wrote in again with more details on what finding herself actually looked like, and it is the most practical and beautiful list. Her dad also sent in a sweet note about her, and we think that is just the sweetest thing ever. Taylor mentions "grace" in her update, which reminds Amy of the blog post her sister Cristi wrote about grace many years ago when they had a blog together. Amy reads the post inspired by their mom's death and a nearly empty bottle of soap called Pure Grace. Plus a listener named Amy from Fort Gibson, Oklahoma has had a reminder in her phone since August of 2025 to share her egg story, and she finally called in. And fun fact: babies apparently smile in the womb when their moms eat carrots and scowl when they eat kale, which honestly tracks.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
While we hope couch Talks can be a tool that
helps and supports wherever you are in life, Couch Talks
does not serve as a replacement or substitute for therapy
or any mental health services.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Good a right break it down. If you ever have
feelings that you just falls home, Amy and Cat got
you covin like and now brother ladies and felas, do
you just follow an the spirit where it tell us
phone or real stuff to the chill stuff and the
m but Swayne, sometimes the best thing you can do
(00:31):
it just stop you feel things.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
This is Feeling Things with Amy and Kat.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Happy Thursday, Welcome to Couch Talks, our listener Q and
a episode to the Feeling Things podcast. I'm Amy and
I'm Kat. And last week, if you listen to couch Talks,
you heard us share a three hundred day update from
a listener named Taylor. She lives in Virginia. She had
emailed us about three hundred days before that, and then
(00:58):
that email was a follow up up. Well, we got
another follow up from Taylor because in that episode last week,
Kat asked a question and we'll get to that specific thing.
But before we even get into Taylor's email, Taylor, if
you're listening. Something that's really cool that you may or
may not know about is that your dad also send
(01:20):
us an email, and we thought it was just the
sweetest thing. He had so many wonderful things to say
about you, Bob shout out hey, Bob, Hi, Bob. So
I'm sure Bob probably, I'm assuming he listened to the episode.
Maybe because you told him you emailed in and your
update was on there.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Maybe they listened to the podcast together. Maybe, like that's
like a cute bonding thing they do.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
How they bond. If we have any other father daughter
listeners out there, we would love to hear from you.
I could totally see my dad writing into a place
or making contact with people and not tell like not
telling me he did that so but not not to
keep it from me, but just wanting to backdoor and
be like, hey, just you know this about Taylor, or
(02:09):
my dad being like, oh, Amy, I mean, my dad
would tell the grocery store clerk like he was so
proud of certain things that I did, and he would
become friends with these people, like the meet guy at HB.
I mean, I'm surprised that guy wasn't at my dad's funeral.
And it's not like they're real life friends or anything.
It's just every time my dad would go to the
grocery store, he would, you know, friends with the lady
(02:31):
that check him out at home Depot, and he would
go so often that it'd be like, oh, Cliff, he
did I ever tell you on the cruise that we
went on for the Bobby Bone show back in February.
I can't believe it was already a couple of months
ago that we were on our cruise, uh that a
listener came up to me and he used to work
for my dad. No, yeah, and he said that when
(02:55):
we talk about my dad or any stories that I tell,
he's like, yes, that's exactly how I remember him. And
he specifically worked at the Gaddytown in College Station, which is,
if you're not familiar, mister Gaddies is a pizza place.
And then they made these big Gaddy Towns, which was like,
you know, bumper cars and all sorts of games, like
(03:18):
a twenty five thousand square foot Gaddies, So it's called
Gaddi Town, and my dad would open up the stores
around Texas. He was one of the partners. And he
said that my dad was always so kind to all
the workers, and he was fluent in Spanish, so he
would speak to them and always wanted to take care
(03:39):
of everybody and just like an overall good dude. So
it's nice to hear that from an actual boots on
the ground employee. Yeah, like confirming what I knew to
be true about my dad.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
But he was like that with the other everybody, everybody.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
So I feel like my dad would be like Bob
and he would send a little note to be like, hey,
her my daughter, so proud, da da da. But Taylor,
we just didn't know if you knew that your dad
had emailed us a really sweet email about you.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Yeah, as you said that, I was thinking, why did
all the Gaddy towns close? I don't know, because there
used to be tons of places like that, like bumper
cars and like family fund centers stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
And now now when did they close? Is it COVID
I closed? But that was out of like that line
of work.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
I feel like we need we need more like put
putt courses like I feel like those only are in
like beach towns now And if anybody wants to reopen
a Gaddy town.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Well, didn't Nashville just open up an underground put putt somewhere.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Underground or outdoor.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
There's I mean, I know they're all outdoor, but it's
like under a parking garage.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Or really I know there's an outdoor one. It's in
Murphrey's borrow. But it's it's really like I want, like
an old school, like when you go to the beach,
you know, do you ever do?
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
In Austin, I know what you're talking about. There's one
called Peter Pan. It's probably it's giving what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
It's giving like nineties eighties, nineties put putt vibes.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah down, Yeah. I think it's like under buildings, like
where a parking garage would be. I've just heard about it.
I've never been. You know, I don't get out.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
We'll check in on that.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I need to get out more. If someone had emailed
me like, hey, I've got a friend coming to town.
Can you make suggestions? I was like, shoot, yeah, what
you suggestions?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
What would you tell people to do if they were
coming to Nashville my house?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Ah, that's where I like to be. I would tell
them downtown Franklin if you can make it down there.
I get that that's a little bit of a dry,
but it's so quaint and cute and worth it. And
twelve South like walking up and down that. Although there
are a lot of tourists, there's cute shops you can
go in out of You can go get a coffee
from Frothy Monkey or the La La Land that the
(05:48):
line is always a mile long if you want your
little latte and a yellow cup.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
If you want that, you should order it on the
app and then go pick it up.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
I've never gotten one, have you.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
I went one time with a friend and one of
my friends loves it, but we went at a weird time,
so it wasn't crazy. But every time I hear somebody
talk about it, it's like the line is down the
street in twelve South.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I'm like, no coffee.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
I'm not like a coffee lover anyway, but no coffee
is worth yeah me waiting an hour for it?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
No, I'd probably like pop in to the rooftop bar
at the Henry. I would love that, or go grab
a bar taco. All of that's on twelve souths So
which is.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
See you get out a little differ. When's the last
time you did any of those things. I guess, yeah,
I guess.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Well, when I got bad a boyfriend, Well, remember my
boyfriend and I were doing what you and Patrick do
where you go out and you act like a tourist
in your own town. But we did it in downtown Franklin,
which is keep place to go. Anyway, back to Taylor.
In the episode last week, Kat had asked, I wonder
at what point Taylor found herself when she was sharing like,
(06:56):
her husband's had been deployed for three hundred days and
she was updating us that she's in a really good place.
And she answered your question, Kat. So I'll read the
answer and then I'll share a little things she did
to find joy in her life because they're not big,
and I feel like it'll be so helpful for people
(07:17):
to hear these simple things that have helped her get
to where she is when she thought like, how am
I going to even survive this? And then we have
a really cool voicemail we're going to play after we
get through the tailor update and stuff, and Kat smiling
because this is a voicemail we've had for a little bit.
But I will tell y'all it has to do with eggs.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Which amy just ate eggs I did. I was hoping.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I was really hoping that Kat was going through Chick
fil A because sometimes she'll go through Chick fil A
before she comes to my house. And I texted her
and I was almost home, and I thought, what if
she's in the Chick fil A drive through? So I said,
are you going to Chick fil A?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
And she was like no.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
So I came home and I made eggs.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Now, we have an egg voice amount that we'll get
too in a minute.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Okay, So Taylor said this. I gotta be honest. I've
really wondered how to even put into words how I
found myself. But I think if I could sum up
the miracle of this deployment, it would be grace. That
grace is more than just it's okay if you mess up,
but it's strength that shows up in weakness. This deployment
was certainly more than I could handle. It exposed my
(08:22):
weaknesses and my coping mechanisms that didn't work or satisfy,
And as I gave myself over to the season I'm in,
I literally just prayed that if I can't change what's happening,
change me to handle it well. I started to have
wisdom about how to do the day. And y'all, it
wasn't huge things or hard things. It was being intentional
(08:44):
about the simple and mundane and realizing that that is
where life and joy is found. And that's when she
goes into the list of things. So listen up, take notes.
Although you probably want to write these down, they're not
that hard, but that's the point, she said. For me,
it was getting ready daily. Nothing too fancy, although some
days I might, but just being intentional about my outfit
(09:07):
and appearance helps me feel ready to take on the day.
Making sure I had my favorite coffee creamer stocked up.
I mean, yeah, that's such like a little morning joy.
Making sure you got that coffee creamer on hand? Are
you coffee creamer? Girl?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Well, I haven't drank coffee since I became pregnant, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
But how many weeks are you at this point? Nineteen nineteen,
So in seven weeks, Kat's baby is going to be
able to smile.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
It's like, where are you going with this loom? Which
is crazy? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Shannon told us that she was at the doctor and
she looked up and saw on a poster or something
that at twenty six weeks. Babies smile in the womb,
and is that making you smile? That in seven weeks
your baby's gonna smile.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah, But I don't think she smiles because she's happy.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
I think it's like she's learning how to like move
her muscles and stuff, you know, because babies don't smile intentionally.
Well want wat Okay, sorry, I still think it's cute,
but it's not like she's She's not like I love
being in here, I'm so happy smiling.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
She's just like, actually might love being in there, like
it's warm and cozy, and like she's hearing your voice.
That's true, she's hearing us talk.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
But I don't know what here is? Your whimsy?
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Well, I don't know, but I do know there's a
fact that like, babies don't intentionally smile until I don't
know what it is, Shannon might have to look it
up until it's certain.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I mean, they're born, once they're born. Yes, so of
course it's still cute. It's still cute, and maybe I
can pretend you're right. I need to pretend.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So anyway, coffee creamer stock that up.
She went on to say, I have a few really
close friends that I just adore catching up with, so
she Marco Polo's with them. I've never been a Marco
polar But.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
You didn't have it during COVID.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
I mean no, oh, I mean I could have, but
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
During COVID. It was real hot. It's popping off, yeah,
and I loved it, But it's also something.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
If you are Marco poling somebody that also loves to
Marco Polo, it really can be a time suck.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
You know.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
You gotta have some boundaries with it because it's just
like sending a voice back and forth, but you see
their voice. I mean you see their face, so it'd
be like voice memoing, but you're it's a video. So
it's nice, especially for long distance friends.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
She went on to say she always had or has
lots of music playing in the house while she's making
dinner or cleaning, which turns into dance parties with her boys,
lots of podcasts keeping her company when she was feeling lonely,
and then lots of laughs and then she said thank
you for that. So I guess she's laughing and smiling.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
About us intentionally, but not cats.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Baby. She Oh, this one is so good. I know,
I keep going back and forth in which like first person,
third person, second I don't know the because I keep
saying she's saying this, and then I'll read her email
and I'll be like, here's what she said. I also
said no to a lot in this season. I realized
(12:03):
if it stressed me out, it just wasn't worth it,
and that opened me up to be able to say
yes to the things that brought me joy. One of
the only things I kept up in this season was
being on the worship team at my church, but in wisdom,
I only did it once a month and it was perfect.
So even, yeah, even if you're saying yes to something,
what are your boundaries around the yes? Because yes doesn't
(12:24):
have to be full blown Okay, I can be there
every single Sunday, which now we know Taylor can sing.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, I'm jealous.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, except for at my church the worship team, not
everybody could sing.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Oh really, anybody can be one. Is it a choir
or is it like a couple people.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Well, I don't know how her church does it, but
our church didn't really have choir per sae. I mean,
sometimes there were group performances, but it was more so
part of the worship team would lead the you know, yeah,
the singing at the beginning, and then that's who would
perform during the offering or something like one of the
people and they would rotate.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Is this your church growing up?
Speaker 3 (12:58):
My church? Growing up? I was like, you might want
to now that there were some very talented singers, and
then there were also It was just like if you
wanted to, you could, which which I like, I got
to perform. Oh, and my sister, it was very kind
because we should not have been up there singing solos.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
We sang.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I've I did a solo one. My sister and I
did a song together.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
How big was your church?
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Not very big?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
And how old were you when you did your solo?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Probably ten?
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Okay, that's eleven. That's cute, okay, but my sister was
fifteen or sixteen.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
She probably sounded better than me. But yeah, there were
some where why I would get in trouble for laughing.
But I was a kid, and some of the singers
it just could not sing. And then we would laugh,
and then my mom would get mad, and I'm like, Mom,
they can't put that person up there singing, Mom, it's
their fault. And then all of us young people are like, so,
(13:57):
was that a known.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Thing that like the choir's bad or something? Wait did
you answer my question? Is it a choir or it's
just solo people?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
There was a worship team that obviously for the praise
and worship at the beginning of the service. We're talking
like a guy on drums, Yeah, a guy on guitar, piano, person.
I mean these are girls and guys. But and then
maybe a couple singers, okay, but not a big production,
just a projector screen with the words.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
This isn't like old school like my church. Yes, you
do not mind it.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
And you couldn't really know if they could sing or
not because it was like a group of people singing together.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah, you know, this wasn't like that. It was more
very obvious who could sing and who cannot.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Well, whether or not you mean sing well, Taylor, we're
happy that you're doing that.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
We're assuming Taylor can sing. And then she went on
to close it out by saying, oh, and I got
through this season through a lot of prayer and worship.
I realized just how much peace comes after a prayer
full of honest emotion and tears. I hope you have
the day to have your friend Taylor in Virginia Beach.
And then she says, oh, and I'm thirty five. Aren't
(15:05):
we doing the age thing now too? Haha?
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Which, yes, we are.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Feel free to leave your name where you're from and
your age. Did Bob leave his age? Bob, he must
not be as.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
He's not part of the what are we calling them?
What we call our feelers the community, that's what you hated. Yeah,
he might not be part of the like inner community,
so he might not know that. But Bob, if you
want to send us an email and just let us
know how old you.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Are to be funny. If Bob was like, have the
day you need to have Bob Taylor's dad, Bob.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
She mentioned grace as being the main thing that got
her through it, and I believe to quote her, she
said she learned that grace is more than just it's
okay if you mess up, but it's strength that shows
up in weakness. And that reminded me of a blog
post that my sister wrote years ago after my mom
(16:11):
passed away, and I've shared it on the podcast multiple times.
Not Feeling Things, but back when it was four Things
with Amy Brown. Periodically this would come up. It's always
a great reminder for me, and I love reading it,
especially because it's not like I wrote it. My sister did.
What if I was like, huh, let's revisit this little
blog post that I read.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I wrote that's so good. Well, that's okay if you're
really proud of your work, if you're a writer.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yes, I just feel like I don't know that. I'm
just letting people know. If I was the author of this,
I don't know. I would revisit it a handful of
times like I had.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah, like I have. As you're trying to promote it
as like something published.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yeah, I get nothing from this other than I love
my sister's writing. And this is about Grace. And you
know that brand philosophy, the body wash and lotion and perfume.
They have a scent called Grace and that is how
(17:07):
this all came about. So to set up the scene
of this blog post from our blog, shout out one
plum tree dot WordPress, dot something. Our tagline. It was
one plum tree and two sisters that used to have
one because in our backyard we had one plum tree,
(17:28):
just one, and I think we put up about six
or seven blogs, couple of them cooking posts. We got
some recipes up there if you want to go check
it out. But my sister is in the shower with
the Grace body wash, which was a gift from our
mom before she died. These are the words of my sister,
(17:49):
Christy Doser. I sat on the floor of the shower
holding a bottle of white liquid soap. My head was
tilted up as streams of warm water rained down my face,
washing away fresh tears. The cries were fewer and farther between,
but they still came at times. Grief would come in waves,
they told me, and it has. Three months earlier, we
(18:12):
had lost our mom to cancer, and that day I
was headed back to her house to face the cabinets, drawers,
and closets not just of her things, but of her
memory and of my memories with her. I didn't want
to go, but more truthfully than that, I didn't want
her to be gone anymore. I looked down at the
nearly empty bottle of soap in my hand. It had
(18:32):
been part of a present from our mom to my
sister Amy and I, A simple soap and lotion gift
set in the midst of the complicated twists and turns
of cancer life. A little gift labeled and branded pure grace.
I remember standing there the day she gave it to us,
hugging in my kitchen, the three of us arms intertwined,
(18:53):
heads touching, staring at our shoes, huddling over that simple
gift of soap, lotion and grace. Unspoken words rumbled through
our minds as we asked someone to take a picture,
not because this was the first time we had ever
huddled that way, but because current circumstances and possibilities gnawed
within us. We wanted to capture how we loved each other.
(19:14):
Not long after that day, we were back in my
home again. This time a hospital bed was set up
in my bedroom for our mom, and my house had
become a revolving door of nurses and friends and family
from all over, stopping by each day to bring food
or flowers, or letters or candles or paper goods or drinks,
or to pick up laundry or kids, or just to
stay and visit, or to say goodbye. This was hospice care.
(19:38):
This was the unwanted end we had been fighting against. However,
a beautiful, loving end if there had to be one.
Amy and I spent most of the time on either
side of our mom our, arms sometimes intertwined, our heads,
sometimes touching hers, huddled over the gift of grace and
our mother, and clinging to the gift of grace of
our God, the grace that gave us the courage to
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whisper in her ear It's okay to go home. And
so I sat on the floor of the shower, gripping
that bottle of white liquid soap, that now nearly empty
bottle of pure grace, and it registered gratefully that true
grace is never empty. And here I was sad and
weak and in need of much grace, But not the
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kind that comes in a bottle, because at the end
of the day we all know that's just soap. But
true grace, the kind that helps you face loss with hope,
the kind that helps you choose forgiveness, thankfulness, and joy.
The kind of grace that gets you up off the
floor of the shower and is never almost empty, because
it never runs out. Tewod Corinthians twelve nine says, my
(20:44):
grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made
perfect in your weakness. His grace thankfully never runs out.
And with such grace and end is transformed to a beginning,
choose Grace, Christie. And then in the blog post, shea
attached a picture of me wearing my giving keys necklace
that says grace, and under the photo she wrote the
(21:06):
day I sent Amy this post a preview, she sent
me a picture of the giving key she happened to
be wearing that day. Sometimes our lives work like that,
and it really was perfect because it's not like I
wore that necklace every single day.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Did you give that necklace away?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
No?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Oh, you still have it.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Yeah, it was given to me, though, I think so.
Are you supposed to continue passing it on? Oh? It's
supposed to never stop being given.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
I think so. But also, like when they first came out,
I wanted to just like they were cute, so people
just I think, bought them for themselves. So it's okay
that you didn't do that. But I just thought it
would be an interesting story if you had given that
to somebody else that needed grace in their life.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
But that doesn't exist so never.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
No, I didn't. I did not think about that you
needed it.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Maybe, So there you still have it and you can
grab onto it whenever you need it again.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Yeah, in giving keys. I mean it used to always
just be the keys with the stamped but she's evolved
the business where now like there's a lot of cute and.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I don't think it's the same.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
I mean, I think it probably has the same idea
behind it, but there's so much stuff that I don't
think it's the same sentiment because I don't.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Feel like to give. But I believe she still employs
homeless communities and stuff.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Yeah, I just there's like earrings and stuff, and I
feel like those are less likely to passed down.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Oh, here's some things that have been stuck in my
ear hole for that past six months.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Here you go.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
So thank you for your update, Taylor, your update to
your update, and thank you Bob, but thank you for
that reminder of grace and even sharing that it shows
up in weakness. It's strength that shows up in weakness.
And shout out to my sister Christy for the reminder
that it never runs out. Even though the bottle of
(22:50):
liquid Grace does run out. You might have to, but
but there's always more at the store. I refeel it, Yeah,
refeel It's going to cost you thirty nine, nine and nine.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
But.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
You can find it at TJ Max for cheaper pure grace.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Shannon gave us an update on baby smiles. I have
to share this baby smile in the womb primarily as
an involuntary reflex to practice facial muscle and development in
their nervous systems. So I was correct on that these
spontaneous movements are not usually reactions to happiness, but are
similar to developmental reflexes like blinking or sucking. However, there
(23:28):
was study a few years ago that shows fetuses respond
to flavors in real time.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Fetuses.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
I hate the word me too, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Babies. Yeah, babies in the womb. Babies in the womb
thirty two to thirty six weeks scowled after their mothers
ate Kale, but smiled after they ate carrots.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Well, carrots are sweet and Kale's bitter.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
That's cute.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Like, okay, so that's cute, but not the baby's smiling.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Well, okay, the.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Baby smiling is cutute. That is like a real reaction versus.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Just they're practicing moving their muscles.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yeah, okay, I thought that was very interesting. It isn't.
I wonder what my baby did when I just ate
my salad.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Next time you go once what at what stage? Can
they figure that out? The kale and carrots? Did it? Say?
Speaker 1 (24:26):
How far along? Six? Okay, pretty far down the road.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
But when you go get an ultrasound or anywhere from
thirty two to thirty six, take kale and take carrots
and be like, hey, can we try something?
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah, you know you can go to those I guess
they're like walking clinic kind of things where you can
go get an ultrasound at any time. So I'd rather
do that then as an experiment than go to my
doctor and.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Be like, hey, I want to out true, that's true.
That's true. Well, speaking of babies in a womb, that's
kind of what an egg is, right, I guess so well,
I mean, really, the egg is in the chicken, and
the chicken lets out the egg, but then the the
mama chicken lets out the eggs. So the egg in
the chicken is the egg in the mom's But then
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eggs are weird, you know how it grows into.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
A chicken and then we eat it. Yeah, I'm well,
we I don't eat them.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
I mean, I guess I eat them if they're in something,
but I'm not eating a I'm not just eating an
egg like you.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Oh yeah, I love eggs, So I don't know why
I just went that was me trying to relate Cat
being pregnant to this egg.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Stay deep about eggs and chickens and which came first,
the chicken or the egg.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Never know, We will never know. But what we do
have is an egg story from a listener. It's a voicemail,
and she apparently has been meaning to call us for
quite some time since August or something. She finally got
around to it, which, hey, I feel that. And her
name is also Amy. She's from Fort Gibson, Oklahoma, age
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fifty shout out, and here as her voicemail.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Hi Kat and Amy. My name is also Amy, and
I am excited to be calling the hotline, I guess
is what we're calling it now. And I am listening
to an episode from last week where you now are
requesting ages. So I am fifty years old and I'm
calling because I have had a reminder in my phone
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since August seventh of twenty twenty five to write in
about my egg story. And I really hope it's you
guys that had an egg story and that my reminder
is not letting me down right now. So if you
guys were not the ones that talked about an egg story,
that everyone has an egg story, then you can just
totally disregard this voicemail. But anyway, my egg story goes
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all the way back to when I was sixteen years old.
I had a sister who was eighteen at the time,
who passed away tragically. I then became an only child
and and I just remember about six months after she
passed away, we were sitting around the dinner table and
it was my parents and I and we were having
dinner one night, and dinners were always just kind of,
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i don't know at the beginning, very hard and just awkward,
and we were just trying to figure out our new
normal and all the things. But anyway, at school that day,
somebody had told me that if you hold an egg
exactly right in your hands, then it will not break,
no matter how much pressure you put on it. But
I was telling my parents about this, and I'm a
little naive and especially at that time, But anyway, my
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dad said, Okay, go to the refrigerator and get an egg,
and you we'll prove it. He's like, you can definitely
break an egg. And I said, no, Dad, I promised you.
This guy told me at school, you can't break the egg.
So I went to the refrigerator and I got the egg,
and my dad said, let me see it. So he
takes the eggs. I probably should tell you really quickly. Sorry.
My dad is a civil engineer, very black and white,
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very dry sense of humor, very serious man. And you
know he was the strict one growing up all the things. Anyway,
so he takes the egg in his hand, and he's
holding it in his left hand, and with his right hand,
he just suddenly smashes the egg. It went everywhere. It
went on me, it went on my mom, it went
on the blinds behind my dad where my dad was
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sitting in our kitchen nook. And I just remember that
was the first time that we genuinely laughed after my
sister Jenny had died. And we laughed and laughed and laughed,
I think until we started crying because none of us
really knew what to do. I was shocked because it
was so out of character for my dad. But anyway,
that's my egg story, and hopefully it was you guys,
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and you've enjoyed the story. And I love the show.
I love the way that you guys just are so random.
I come home and I tell my husband, guess what
Amy told me today? And he knows I'm talking about you, Amy,
because he does the same thing about Bobby. He's like, oh, guess,
but Bobby told me. So we just pretend like you're
our friends. And anyhow, Kat, I'm happy to have you
now be a part of that as well. So love
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you girls. Hope you guys have a the day you
need to have.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
So, in full transparency, when Kat and I first got
this voicemail, we were like, did we talk about eggs?
Because even she was like, I think it was y'all
that talked about eggs, So then we were doubting if
we ever talked about eggs. I do have the eggs
story that I've mentioned about my college boyfriend when he
made me eggs and I had an eating disorder for sure,
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because I flipped out because he put the yolk in
the scrambled eggs and I emotionally couldn't hold it together.
And I was very bizarre in my reaction to the
yolk being in the eggs.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
So I think we did.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
On an episode you shared that and then we said,
like everybody has a story with eg there has maybe
there's another story.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Too, so like everybody has yeah, Like so maybe you
have a story about eggs. And then if you shared
a story about eggs.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
I don't know that I've shared a specific story about eggs,
but eggs gross me out.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I could come up with a lot of stories. But
what's funny about this voicemail is I do have a
similar egg story about the same exact thing she was doing.
I do have a similar egg story about the same
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exact thing she was doing.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
And you've never told that.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I never told. I don't think I've ever told that
because I don't know why I would ever come up.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Because that's crazy in itself that you have the same experience.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
So when I was in college, this is going into
my senior year, I think you know when we well
not everybody might know this, but you have like spirit
week before you do like rush and as a bonding activity,
we did a talent show.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
I don't have any talents, not talents that fit in
a talent show, you know, because.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
You have many many talents, thank you.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
So me and a couple of my friends decided we're
going to do a Magic Show, and so we had
to come up with magic tricks. We had a couple
of good card tricks and then we just like googled
some and one of the tricks we did was the
egg thing where if you hold it between I don't
exactly remember what it is. You guys could google this,
but it's like if you hold between your thumb and
maybe your pointer finger, the egg will not break, like
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it literally won't.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
You can do it as hard as you can.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
So we were doing this when we picked a random
person from an audience to do the trick with us,
and she immediately smashed the egg and got the egg
all over the carpet in our nice chapter room, and
it was just really awkward and we didn't have the
same experience where people were laughing.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
It was more like your magic show. It's really bad.
So I know about that trick and I appreciate it,
and if you want it to work, you have to
do it right. You have to do it right.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Another egg thing that we have discussed is I don't
know how to say yolk.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Yeah, I was trying not to bring attention to that.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Well, Shannon just reminded me.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
I was trying to be cool. Because I'm trying to
let you be yourself. You know, you can say yoke,
you just you just naturally say yolk.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Yeah, yoke. Yeah, you can say like woke. It doesn't
come naturally out of your egg yolk. Yeah, that sounds nice.
There it is.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Did I do it egg yoke? Yeah, it's just not
what naturally which I want to get rid of filler words.
We've talked about this.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Right, Is yolk a filler word for you?
Speaker 4 (32:22):
No?
Speaker 3 (32:22):
But it just makes me think of how I talk
in general. I would like to get rid of filler words. No,
no likes, uh anyway for that, just thinking being intentional
with my words and speaking more slowly with intention so
that I don't say the words like like like do
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you think we could do that?
Speaker 1 (32:49):
I've I would love to speak more slowly. But if
I do speak more slowly, well I add more just
like I just did there.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
I think when you're speaking intentionally, you avoid those words,
so you're not going to say it instead of a
filler word. There might be a pause, yeah, but there's
not going to be a.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Or a like yeah. Oh, that can be our goal
for the second half of the year. Okay, we're going
to speak slower, lofty goals here more intentionally.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Yeah, I mean speaking with intention is a good goal
no matter what. There's just so many thoughts in my
head right now, even while I'm talking, just like I'm
surprised I get out what I do, you know, and
then it's like there's competition in there. I had a
last weekend in Austin. I was using weight why am
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I talking? Because I'm seeing so many people at iHeart
Country Festival that I only see once a year, some
of company people that or people that are in Austin
at this particular event every year, so I see them
three hundred and sixty five days later. We're catching up
on things. We're talking and one girl in particular, she's
from New York. She asked me one question and I
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ended up going on and on and on about it.
And then when I get done talking, even the whole
time i'm talking, I'm thinking like, why am I saying this?
Why am I saying the shut up? Shut up? Shut up?
But then I would keep talking, and so then it
turned into that waste. Instead of wait, it was why
am I still talking? And I thought about that for
like two days after I left Austin. And hopefully she
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hasn't thought about it again. But I swear to you
get this is what she said. When she found a
break where she could say something. She was like, Okay,
it's so good to see. She's like, I was actually
walking out of the hotel to go meet somebody for coffee,
and I'm like, oh my god, the worst. Not only
does she have somewhere to be, she didn't respond, well,
she really wanted to know, she asked. She was like,
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I thank you so much for that update, Like I
really wanted to know. Like that's great, I know, but
she did not need the update I gave her. That's
not even someone that I don't want to be rude
in saying it this way because she's done nothing wrong.
But it's like, you know, people, why does it feel
rude to say it this way? But I'm just gonna
go ahead and say it because I don't I want
to be intentional with my words. But like she doesn't
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even deserve that information, right.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Like we don't have that you ever shared? I overshared, Yeah,
do you do that out of anxiety or yes?
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Just like, oh my gosh, I can't believe she asked
me about that, And like da da da, And then
I keep going, and then she would ask a follow
up question, but not to the follow up, I would
answer five other things.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
You're also very I'll say this about you and maybe
you can tell me if this is you think it
sends from anxiety or if it's your personality. But from
my experience of being with you and being with you
around other people, you're very open. So I think sometimes
you overshare, but it might be an overshare for one person,
but for you, you're an open person.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Right. It's not so much that I regret anything that
I said. It just none of it was necessary in
that circumstance or situation. And I'm not close enough to
that person to even be giving some of those details.
So that I was like, why was I sharing that?
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (36:14):
And then so for two days I was like, and
now here I am thinking about it again, And I
was like, but in my head while I'm talking, why
am I still talking? Why am I still talking right now?
Like now I'm still talking about it? Why am I
thinking about it?
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Well, you're going to work on You're going to need
maybe you can use that ring thing that we were
talking about last week. When people like that ask you
questions to help you slow.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Down, Yeah, twist the ring in like time, a little
bit of like a.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
One second pause or something like that, isn't awkward.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
And so no, because that would have given her the
opportunity to be like, oh my gosh, I'm on my
way to meet Dada dah for coffee. And then if
I would have twisted my ring three times, and part
of this like see I just did it again, Like
if I here, here's me saying what I was going
to say, but now with intention, I would have twisted
my ring three times, that would have given her the
opportunity to go where she needed to go. She was
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being kind to standing there listening to me go on
and on and on when she really needed to go.
She was trying to engage, and then it hit a
level of oh, now I'm going to be late.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
You also know how to do this though, because you
speak very well. I've told you this before. You've speak
very well for with work.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
When I'm on and I need to be on. For example,
this weekend, I had to do a brunch thing with
a group of women. There was probably about thirty women
there and on Saturday, and it was they were part
of her country festival, and they were in from all
over the country and they were having a brunch and
I was invited to do a toast and talk about
the founder and I didn't know much about it going
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into it, but spent about five minutes with the founder
before I went up, and then I gave my toast,
and even I when I got on the elevator, it
was te for me to leave. I was like, huh,
I don't know how I just busted that out like
I did, and how it all made sense because I
didn't know where I was going. Even when I'm talking,
I'm thinking, I'm telling this story and that's kind of crazy.
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How now I'm going to tie it into this next
part of the story and then I'm able to put
a bow on it somehow. To your point, I can't
acknowledge that eventually I'll get there. And a lot of
the women came up and they were like, oh, they
were like, see that's what's stop.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
That's an okay place to say.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
They were like yeah, I mean you could say, they said,
but they were like, is not a filler word? They
like a saying like they said this, you can change
the word.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
But I think well and speaking with intention. Afterwards, some
women came up and said to me that I did
a good job. You did a good job. Because as
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I'm speaking with intention and speaking clothes slowly about how
these women came up in compliment, I'm thinking, why am
I saying this loud? I'm bragging about myself from other people?
Shut up and those look like.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
That game that we play the poetry from Neanderthals and
you can only say one syllable.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
They said, I did good job.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Yeah me good me good at random public speak?
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Public speaking?
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Uh so anyway, anyway.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
I like the.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
If you notice Amy speaking better with less filler words,
shout it out. Well, that hasn't happened yet, I know,
but have people look out for it.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
This is an intention. I also wanted to do it
last week and I don't know that I have.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
This is going to take more than a week, my friend.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
This is another thing I'll let you went on in
my brain when I'm I'm now, I'm very hyper aware
of my ums and likes. At I heard a country festival,
I have to go on stage and do stuff. But
there's a teleprompter, and you're on stage, and you have
a microphone, and there's thousands and thousands of people.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
But you have to be able to read really good.
That's why you're so.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Prompter's big font, it's big, funt still like it's not.
But what I'm saying is I'm reading the prompter and
I'm having other thoughts.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
That's tough.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
And as I'm reading the prompter this, the things that
are going through my mind are I'm seeing in front
of these thousands of people, some of which I can
tell their listeners, some are not, Some are just there
for the country music. They have no clue who we are,
and it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Right.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Well, there's some people that they're in the front rows
and they're waving and they're like, hey, me wave and
I'm like hey, and I'm thinking, my head is I'm
reading what I'm supposed to read on the prompter introducing
an artist that's about to come on stage. But in
my head, I'm thinking, how do I say this? Because
the prompter is a very it's a script. I'm reading
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it verbatim. You can't go off it sounds, you know,
you don't. You can add lib a little, but you
want to get the just of what they have on
the prompter, and it's there for me, and it's very professional,
like I'm dressed up, I have a microphone. There's all
these people, I'm a professional, and I'm like thinking, this
is how like we're like our show is ridiculous. I
don't normally speak with such like prompter type, very specific,
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stay on point, there's no likes or ums, And I
guess in my mind, I'm thinking these people are like,
this doesn't sound like her.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
What is she doing up there?
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Why does she sound this way?
Speaker 1 (41:27):
You're so judgmental.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Well, I don't know. I'm just telling you that I
have these thoughts going on in my head while I'm
reading the prompter.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
I just bet that people don't think that deep about
what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
I know they're not, but I'm thinking I guess it
would be a version of I'm not saying it's imposter syndrome,
because I don't even know that I buy that.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
But it's like a like a buy into do I
you don't buy into it?
Speaker 4 (41:49):
No?
Speaker 3 (41:49):
I do, but I don't. I want to be I
don't want to have that, Okay, I don't. So this
is a version of it. Okay, it's like a it's
like an offshoot of imposter syndrome. It doesn't really feel
like but it's like a variant of it because I'm
up there saying that. They're like, that's not normally how
she is. Like, she sounds so professional, look up there
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on stage with a microphone in front of all these people,
and normally she just like sits in her house as
a microphone and says like with her friend.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Cat, you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, I get
what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Which is a silly thing. I should be up there
and be like, this is so awesome. I'm up here
enjoying this.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Look at me, but I'm not.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
I'm like, don't fall. I'm like, don't fall, don't fall,
don't fall, don't mess up the word, don't mess up
the word idiot.
Speaker 4 (42:40):
We're going to work on the inner dialogue for you, Okay.
It's something that I think, more than you're you're speaking,
needs a little bit of fine tuning.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Yeah, I guess we just got to fine tune it
because I already do enough therapy. I already know, I
already know all the things. But it's just like there, Yeah,
I guess was a pointless story.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
No, it's beautiful. We're getting to know you on a
deeper level.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
I'm just letting you inside my head. Yeah, when you're talking,
you have other thoughts. Yeah, say you're on stage talking.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
I'm not trying to get on stage and talk is
the thing. Yeah, but let's say you were well, I
don't done that like twice and it was with you.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Yeah, so I don't. I can't relate to that story.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
And I can't tell you what thoughts I have, But
I will say sometimes when I relate to like talking
to whether it's a friend or an acquaintance or somebody
and being like shut up, like wrap it up, or
like why are you telling the story? And sometimes I
get so in my head that I'll get too quiet
because I'm like, why are you talking too much?
Speaker 1 (43:38):
You know what I mean. So I need to find
a good sweet spot in the middle.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
So I have it.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
I have an inner critic too.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
But you need a little TTT time to talk, little
time to be like, Okay, I've laited enough.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
It's t t T.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
Like having attention and talking and telling stories and all that.
With my friends, I don't have those thoughts. But like
when I'm in other groups, I become a lot more
quiet and less likely to share things.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Yeah. I like small groups, big groups, large like huge groups.
I like groups of people. I don't mind talking at all.
In fact, I've told you I'm working on a keynote.
But here's the thing. I feel like I'm working on
a keynote, and I should just go ahead and work
this into the keynote because it's gonna be my thought anyway.
I'm gonna be out there and I be like, why
am I here giving a keynote? I don't know, I
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shouldn't be giving a keynote. Why but here I am?
Because that's the thought I'm going to be having anyway,
that's my.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
I guess my question was like, why why not you?
Speaker 4 (44:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Why not? Maybe that can be the keynote?
Speaker 3 (44:43):
Why not you? But why not? You?
Speaker 5 (44:46):
Are you? Are you?
Speaker 3 (44:47):
And then I point to the crowd, are you? And you?
Thanks for coming? Bye? Okay, let's se uh that's it.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
We are good.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
That's our wrap on this week's couch Talks. Thank you
for sending voicemails. You can call us eight seven seven
two oh seven two oh seven seven. Thanks for the emails,
Bob and everybody else that sends emails. We really appreciate
you and the email addresses. Hey, they're at Feeling Things
podcast dot com. Uh and we hope wherever you are,
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you have the day you need to have.
Speaker 4 (45:28):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Bye,
While we hope couch Talks can be a tool that
helps and supports wherever you are in life, Couch Talks
does not serve as a replacement or substitute for therapy
or any mental health services.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Good a right break it down. If you ever have
feelings that you just falls home, Amy and Cat got
you covin like and now brother ladies and felas, do
you just follow an the spirit where it tell us
phone or real stuff to the chill stuff and the
m but Swayne, sometimes the best thing you can do
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it just stop you feel things.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
This is Feeling Things with Amy and Kat.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Happy Thursday, Welcome to Couch Talks, our listener Q and
a episode to the Feeling Things podcast. I'm Amy and
I'm Kat. And last week, if you listen to couch Talks,
you heard us share a three hundred day update from
a listener named Taylor. She lives in Virginia. She had
emailed us about three hundred days before that, and then
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that email was a follow up up. Well, we got
another follow up from Taylor because in that episode last week,
Kat asked a question and we'll get to that specific thing.
But before we even get into Taylor's email, Taylor, if
you're listening. Something that's really cool that you may or
may not know about is that your dad also send
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us an email, and we thought it was just the
sweetest thing. He had so many wonderful things to say
about you, Bob shout out hey, Bob, Hi, Bob. So
I'm sure Bob probably, I'm assuming he listened to the episode.
Maybe because you told him you emailed in and your
update was on there.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Maybe they listened to the podcast together. Maybe, like that's
like a cute bonding thing they do.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
How they bond. If we have any other father daughter
listeners out there, we would love to hear from you.
I could totally see my dad writing into a place
or making contact with people and not tell like not
telling me he did that so but not not to
keep it from me, but just wanting to backdoor and
be like, hey, just you know this about Taylor, or
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my dad being like, oh, Amy, I mean, my dad
would tell the grocery store clerk like he was so
proud of certain things that I did, and he would
become friends with these people, like the meet guy at HB.
I mean, I'm surprised that guy wasn't at my dad's funeral.
And it's not like they're real life friends or anything.
It's just every time my dad would go to the
grocery store, he would, you know, friends with the lady
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that check him out at home Depot, and he would
go so often that it'd be like, oh, Cliff, he
did I ever tell you on the cruise that we
went on for the Bobby Bone show back in February.
I can't believe it was already a couple of months
ago that we were on our cruise, uh that a
listener came up to me and he used to work
for my dad. No, yeah, and he said that when
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we talk about my dad or any stories that I tell,
he's like, yes, that's exactly how I remember him. And
he specifically worked at the Gaddytown in College Station, which is,
if you're not familiar, mister Gaddies is a pizza place.
And then they made these big Gaddy Towns, which was like,
you know, bumper cars and all sorts of games, like
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a twenty five thousand square foot Gaddies, So it's called
Gaddi Town, and my dad would open up the stores
around Texas. He was one of the partners. And he
said that my dad was always so kind to all
the workers, and he was fluent in Spanish, so he
would speak to them and always wanted to take care
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of everybody and just like an overall good dude. So
it's nice to hear that from an actual boots on
the ground employee. Yeah, like confirming what I knew to
be true about my dad.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
But he was like that with the other everybody, everybody.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
So I feel like my dad would be like Bob
and he would send a little note to be like, hey,
her my daughter, so proud, da da da. But Taylor,
we just didn't know if you knew that your dad
had emailed us a really sweet email about you.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Yeah, as you said that, I was thinking, why did
all the Gaddy towns close? I don't know, because there
used to be tons of places like that, like bumper
cars and like family fund centers stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
And now now when did they close? Is it COVID
I closed? But that was out of like that line
of work.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
I feel like we need we need more like put
putt courses like I feel like those only are in
like beach towns now And if anybody wants to reopen
a Gaddy town.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Well, didn't Nashville just open up an underground put putt somewhere.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Underground or outdoor.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
There's I mean, I know they're all outdoor, but it's
like under a parking garage.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Or really I know there's an outdoor one. It's in
Murphrey's borrow. But it's it's really like I want, like
an old school, like when you go to the beach,
you know, do you ever do?
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
In Austin, I know what you're talking about. There's one
called Peter Pan. It's probably it's giving what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
It's giving like nineties eighties, nineties put putt vibes.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah down, Yeah. I think it's like under buildings, like
where a parking garage would be. I've just heard about it.
I've never been. You know, I don't get out.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
We'll check in on that.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I need to get out more. If someone had emailed
me like, hey, I've got a friend coming to town.
Can you make suggestions? I was like, shoot, yeah, what
you suggestions?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
What would you tell people to do if they were
coming to Nashville my house?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Ah, that's where I like to be. I would tell
them downtown Franklin if you can make it down there.
I get that that's a little bit of a dry,
but it's so quaint and cute and worth it. And
twelve South like walking up and down that. Although there
are a lot of tourists, there's cute shops you can
go in out of You can go get a coffee
from Frothy Monkey or the La La Land that the
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line is always a mile long if you want your
little latte and a yellow cup.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
If you want that, you should order it on the
app and then go pick it up.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
I've never gotten one, have you.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
I went one time with a friend and one of
my friends loves it, but we went at a weird time,
so it wasn't crazy. But every time I hear somebody
talk about it, it's like the line is down the
street in twelve South.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I'm like, no coffee.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
I'm not like a coffee lover anyway, but no coffee
is worth yeah me waiting an hour for it?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
No, I'd probably like pop in to the rooftop bar
at the Henry. I would love that, or go grab
a bar taco. All of that's on twelve souths So
which is.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
See you get out a little differ. When's the last
time you did any of those things. I guess, yeah,
I guess.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Well, when I got bad a boyfriend, Well, remember my
boyfriend and I were doing what you and Patrick do
where you go out and you act like a tourist
in your own town. But we did it in downtown Franklin,
which is keep place to go. Anyway, back to Taylor.
In the episode last week, Kat had asked, I wonder
at what point Taylor found herself when she was sharing like,
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her husband's had been deployed for three hundred days and
she was updating us that she's in a really good place.
And she answered your question, Kat. So I'll read the
answer and then I'll share a little things she did
to find joy in her life because they're not big,
and I feel like it'll be so helpful for people
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to hear these simple things that have helped her get
to where she is when she thought like, how am
I going to even survive this? And then we have
a really cool voicemail we're going to play after we
get through the tailor update and stuff, and Kat smiling
because this is a voicemail we've had for a little bit.
But I will tell y'all it has to do with eggs.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Which amy just ate eggs I did. I was hoping.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I was really hoping that Kat was going through Chick
fil A because sometimes she'll go through Chick fil A
before she comes to my house. And I texted her
and I was almost home, and I thought, what if
she's in the Chick fil A drive through? So I said,
are you going to Chick fil A?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
And she was like no.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
So I came home and I made eggs.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Now, we have an egg voice amount that we'll get
too in a minute.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Okay, So Taylor said this. I gotta be honest. I've
really wondered how to even put into words how I
found myself. But I think if I could sum up
the miracle of this deployment, it would be grace. That
grace is more than just it's okay if you mess up,
but it's strength that shows up in weakness. This deployment
was certainly more than I could handle. It exposed my
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weaknesses and my coping mechanisms that didn't work or satisfy,
And as I gave myself over to the season I'm in,
I literally just prayed that if I can't change what's happening,
change me to handle it well. I started to have
wisdom about how to do the day. And y'all, it
wasn't huge things or hard things. It was being intentional
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about the simple and mundane and realizing that that is
where life and joy is found. And that's when she
goes into the list of things. So listen up, take notes.
Although you probably want to write these down, they're not
that hard, but that's the point, she said. For me,
it was getting ready daily. Nothing too fancy, although some
days I might, but just being intentional about my outfit
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and appearance helps me feel ready to take on the day.
Making sure I had my favorite coffee creamer stocked up.
I mean, yeah, that's such like a little morning joy.
Making sure you got that coffee creamer on hand? Are
you coffee creamer? Girl?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Well, I haven't drank coffee since I became pregnant, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
But how many weeks are you at this point? Nineteen nineteen,
So in seven weeks, Kat's baby is going to be
able to smile.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
It's like, where are you going with this loom? Which
is crazy? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Shannon told us that she was at the doctor and
she looked up and saw on a poster or something
that at twenty six weeks. Babies smile in the womb,
and is that making you smile? That in seven weeks
your baby's gonna smile.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah, But I don't think she smiles because she's happy.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
I think it's like she's learning how to like move
her muscles and stuff, you know, because babies don't smile intentionally.
Well want wat Okay, sorry, I still think it's cute,
but it's not like she's She's not like I love
being in here, I'm so happy smiling.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
She's just like, actually might love being in there, like
it's warm and cozy, and like she's hearing your voice.
That's true, she's hearing us talk.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
But I don't know what here is? Your whimsy?
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Well, I don't know, but I do know there's a
fact that like, babies don't intentionally smile until I don't
know what it is, Shannon might have to look it
up until it's certain.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I mean, they're born, once they're born. Yes, so of
course it's still cute. It's still cute, and maybe I
can pretend you're right. I need to pretend.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So anyway, coffee creamer stock that up.
She went on to say, I have a few really
close friends that I just adore catching up with, so
she Marco Polo's with them. I've never been a Marco
polar But.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
You didn't have it during COVID.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
I mean no, oh, I mean I could have, but
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
During COVID. It was real hot. It's popping off, yeah,
and I loved it, But it's also something.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
If you are Marco poling somebody that also loves to
Marco Polo, it really can be a time suck.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
You know.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
You gotta have some boundaries with it because it's just
like sending a voice back and forth, but you see
their voice. I mean you see their face, so it'd
be like voice memoing, but you're it's a video. So
it's nice, especially for long distance friends.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
She went on to say she always had or has
lots of music playing in the house while she's making
dinner or cleaning, which turns into dance parties with her boys,
lots of podcasts keeping her company when she was feeling lonely,
and then lots of laughs and then she said thank
you for that. So I guess she's laughing and smiling.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
About us intentionally, but not cats.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Baby. She Oh, this one is so good. I know,
I keep going back and forth in which like first person,
third person, second I don't know the because I keep
saying she's saying this, and then I'll read her email
and I'll be like, here's what she said. I also
said no to a lot in this season. I realized
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if it stressed me out, it just wasn't worth it,
and that opened me up to be able to say
yes to the things that brought me joy. One of
the only things I kept up in this season was
being on the worship team at my church, but in wisdom,
I only did it once a month and it was perfect.
So even, yeah, even if you're saying yes to something,
what are your boundaries around the yes? Because yes doesn't
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have to be full blown Okay, I can be there
every single Sunday, which now we know Taylor can sing.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, I'm jealous.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, except for at my church the worship team, not
everybody could sing.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Oh really, anybody can be one. Is it a choir
or is it like a couple people.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Well, I don't know how her church does it, but
our church didn't really have choir per sae. I mean,
sometimes there were group performances, but it was more so
part of the worship team would lead the you know, yeah,
the singing at the beginning, and then that's who would
perform during the offering or something like one of the
people and they would rotate.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Is this your church growing up?
Speaker 3 (12:58):
My church? Growing up? I was like, you might want
to now that there were some very talented singers, and
then there were also It was just like if you
wanted to, you could, which which I like, I got
to perform. Oh, and my sister, it was very kind
because we should not have been up there singing solos.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
We sang.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I've I did a solo one. My sister and I
did a song together.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
How big was your church?
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Not very big?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
And how old were you when you did your solo?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Probably ten?
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Okay, that's eleven. That's cute, okay, but my sister was
fifteen or sixteen.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
She probably sounded better than me. But yeah, there were
some where why I would get in trouble for laughing.
But I was a kid, and some of the singers
it just could not sing. And then we would laugh,
and then my mom would get mad, and I'm like, Mom,
they can't put that person up there singing, Mom, it's
their fault. And then all of us young people are like, so,
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was that a known.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Thing that like the choir's bad or something? Wait did
you answer my question? Is it a choir or it's
just solo people?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
There was a worship team that obviously for the praise
and worship at the beginning of the service. We're talking
like a guy on drums, Yeah, a guy on guitar, piano, person.
I mean these are girls and guys. But and then
maybe a couple singers, okay, but not a big production,
just a projector screen with the words.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
This isn't like old school like my church. Yes, you
do not mind it.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
And you couldn't really know if they could sing or
not because it was like a group of people singing together.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah, you know, this wasn't like that. It was more
very obvious who could sing and who cannot.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Well, whether or not you mean sing well, Taylor, we're
happy that you're doing that.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
We're assuming Taylor can sing. And then she went on
to close it out by saying, oh, and I got
through this season through a lot of prayer and worship.
I realized just how much peace comes after a prayer
full of honest emotion and tears. I hope you have
the day to have your friend Taylor in Virginia Beach.
And then she says, oh, and I'm thirty five. Aren't
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we doing the age thing now too? Haha?
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Which, yes, we are.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Feel free to leave your name where you're from and
your age. Did Bob leave his age? Bob, he must
not be as.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
He's not part of the what are we calling them?
What we call our feelers the community, that's what you hated. Yeah,
he might not be part of the like inner community,
so he might not know that. But Bob, if you
want to send us an email and just let us
know how old you.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Are to be funny. If Bob was like, have the
day you need to have Bob Taylor's dad, Bob.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
She mentioned grace as being the main thing that got
her through it, and I believe to quote her, she
said she learned that grace is more than just it's
okay if you mess up, but it's strength that shows
up in weakness. And that reminded me of a blog
post that my sister wrote years ago after my mom
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passed away, and I've shared it on the podcast multiple times.
Not Feeling Things, but back when it was four Things
with Amy Brown. Periodically this would come up. It's always
a great reminder for me, and I love reading it,
especially because it's not like I wrote it. My sister did.
What if I was like, huh, let's revisit this little
blog post that I read.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I wrote that's so good. Well, that's okay if you're
really proud of your work, if you're a writer.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yes, I just feel like I don't know that. I'm
just letting people know. If I was the author of this,
I don't know. I would revisit it a handful of
times like I had.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah, like I have. As you're trying to promote it
as like something published.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yeah, I get nothing from this other than I love
my sister's writing. And this is about Grace. And you
know that brand philosophy, the body wash and lotion and perfume.
They have a scent called Grace and that is how
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this all came about. So to set up the scene
of this blog post from our blog, shout out one
plum tree dot WordPress, dot something. Our tagline. It was
one plum tree and two sisters that used to have
one because in our backyard we had one plum tree,
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just one, and I think we put up about six
or seven blogs, couple of them cooking posts. We got
some recipes up there if you want to go check
it out. But my sister is in the shower with
the Grace body wash, which was a gift from our
mom before she died. These are the words of my sister,
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Christy Doser. I sat on the floor of the shower
holding a bottle of white liquid soap. My head was
tilted up as streams of warm water rained down my face,
washing away fresh tears. The cries were fewer and farther between,
but they still came at times. Grief would come in waves,
they told me, and it has. Three months earlier, we
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had lost our mom to cancer, and that day I
was headed back to her house to face the cabinets, drawers,
and closets not just of her things, but of her
memory and of my memories with her. I didn't want
to go, but more truthfully than that, I didn't want
her to be gone anymore. I looked down at the
nearly empty bottle of soap in my hand. It had
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been part of a present from our mom to my
sister Amy and I, A simple soap and lotion gift
set in the midst of the complicated twists and turns
of cancer life. A little gift labeled and branded pure grace.
I remember standing there the day she gave it to us,
hugging in my kitchen, the three of us arms intertwined,
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heads touching, staring at our shoes, huddling over that simple
gift of soap, lotion and grace. Unspoken words rumbled through
our minds as we asked someone to take a picture,
not because this was the first time we had ever
huddled that way, but because current circumstances and possibilities gnawed
within us. We wanted to capture how we loved each other.
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Not long after that day, we were back in my
home again. This time a hospital bed was set up
in my bedroom for our mom, and my house had
become a revolving door of nurses and friends and family
from all over, stopping by each day to bring food
or flowers, or letters or candles or paper goods or drinks,
or to pick up laundry or kids, or just to
stay and visit, or to say goodbye. This was hospice care.
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This was the unwanted end we had been fighting against. However,
a beautiful, loving end if there had to be one.
Amy and I spent most of the time on either
side of our mom our, arms sometimes intertwined, our heads,
sometimes touching hers, huddled over the gift of grace and
our mother, and clinging to the gift of grace of
our God, the grace that gave us the courage to
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whisper in her ear It's okay to go home. And
so I sat on the floor of the shower, gripping
that bottle of white liquid soap, that now nearly empty
bottle of pure grace, and it registered gratefully that true
grace is never empty. And here I was sad and
weak and in need of much grace, But not the
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kind that comes in a bottle, because at the end
of the day we all know that's just soap. But
true grace, the kind that helps you face loss with hope,
the kind that helps you choose forgiveness, thankfulness, and joy.
The kind of grace that gets you up off the
floor of the shower and is never almost empty, because
it never runs out. Tewod Corinthians twelve nine says, my
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grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made
perfect in your weakness. His grace thankfully never runs out.
And with such grace and end is transformed to a beginning,
choose Grace, Christie. And then in the blog post, shea
attached a picture of me wearing my giving keys necklace
that says grace, and under the photo she wrote the
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day I sent Amy this post a preview, she sent
me a picture of the giving key she happened to
be wearing that day. Sometimes our lives work like that,
and it really was perfect because it's not like I
wore that necklace every single day.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Did you give that necklace away?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
No?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Oh, you still have it.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Yeah, it was given to me, though, I think so.
Are you supposed to continue passing it on? Oh? It's
supposed to never stop being given.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
I think so. But also, like when they first came out,
I wanted to just like they were cute, so people
just I think, bought them for themselves. So it's okay
that you didn't do that. But I just thought it
would be an interesting story if you had given that
to somebody else that needed grace in their life.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
But that doesn't exist so never.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
No, I didn't. I did not think about that you
needed it.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Maybe, So there you still have it and you can
grab onto it whenever you need it again.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Yeah, in giving keys. I mean it used to always
just be the keys with the stamped but she's evolved
the business where now like there's a lot of cute and.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I don't think it's the same.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
I mean, I think it probably has the same idea
behind it, but there's so much stuff that I don't
think it's the same sentiment because I don't.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Feel like to give. But I believe she still employs
homeless communities and stuff.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Yeah, I just there's like earrings and stuff, and I
feel like those are less likely to passed down.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Oh, here's some things that have been stuck in my
ear hole for that past six months.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Here you go.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
So thank you for your update, Taylor, your update to
your update, and thank you Bob, but thank you for
that reminder of grace and even sharing that it shows
up in weakness. It's strength that shows up in weakness.
And shout out to my sister Christy for the reminder
that it never runs out. Even though the bottle of
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liquid Grace does run out. You might have to, but
but there's always more at the store. I refeel it, Yeah,
refeel It's going to cost you thirty nine, nine and nine.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
But.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
You can find it at TJ Max for cheaper pure grace.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Shannon gave us an update on baby smiles. I have
to share this baby smile in the womb primarily as
an involuntary reflex to practice facial muscle and development in
their nervous systems. So I was correct on that these
spontaneous movements are not usually reactions to happiness, but are
similar to developmental reflexes like blinking or sucking. However, there
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was study a few years ago that shows fetuses respond
to flavors in real time.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Fetuses.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
I hate the word me too, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Babies. Yeah, babies in the womb. Babies in the womb
thirty two to thirty six weeks scowled after their mothers
ate Kale, but smiled after they ate carrots.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Well, carrots are sweet and Kale's bitter.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
That's cute.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Like, okay, so that's cute, but not the baby's smiling.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Well, okay, the.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Baby smiling is cutute. That is like a real reaction versus.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Just they're practicing moving their muscles.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yeah, okay, I thought that was very interesting. It isn't.
I wonder what my baby did when I just ate
my salad.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Next time you go once what at what stage? Can
they figure that out? The kale and carrots? Did it? Say?
Speaker 1 (24:26):
How far along? Six? Okay, pretty far down the road.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
But when you go get an ultrasound or anywhere from
thirty two to thirty six, take kale and take carrots
and be like, hey, can we try something?
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah, you know you can go to those I guess
they're like walking clinic kind of things where you can
go get an ultrasound at any time. So I'd rather
do that then as an experiment than go to my
doctor and.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Be like, hey, I want to out true, that's true.
That's true. Well, speaking of babies in a womb, that's
kind of what an egg is, right, I guess so well,
I mean, really, the egg is in the chicken, and
the chicken lets out the egg, but then the the
mama chicken lets out the eggs. So the egg in
the chicken is the egg in the mom's But then
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eggs are weird, you know how it grows into.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
A chicken and then we eat it. Yeah, I'm well,
we I don't eat them.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
I mean, I guess I eat them if they're in something,
but I'm not eating a I'm not just eating an
egg like you.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Oh yeah, I love eggs, So I don't know why
I just went that was me trying to relate Cat
being pregnant to this egg.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Stay deep about eggs and chickens and which came first,
the chicken or the egg.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Never know, We will never know. But what we do
have is an egg story from a listener. It's a voicemail,
and she apparently has been meaning to call us for
quite some time since August or something. She finally got
around to it, which, hey, I feel that. And her
name is also Amy. She's from Fort Gibson, Oklahoma, age
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fifty shout out, and here as her voicemail.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Hi Kat and Amy. My name is also Amy, and
I am excited to be calling the hotline, I guess
is what we're calling it now. And I am listening
to an episode from last week where you now are
requesting ages. So I am fifty years old and I'm
calling because I have had a reminder in my phone
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since August seventh of twenty twenty five to write in
about my egg story. And I really hope it's you
guys that had an egg story and that my reminder
is not letting me down right now. So if you
guys were not the ones that talked about an egg story,
that everyone has an egg story, then you can just
totally disregard this voicemail. But anyway, my egg story goes
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all the way back to when I was sixteen years old.
I had a sister who was eighteen at the time,
who passed away tragically. I then became an only child
and and I just remember about six months after she
passed away, we were sitting around the dinner table and
it was my parents and I and we were having
dinner one night, and dinners were always just kind of,
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i don't know at the beginning, very hard and just awkward,
and we were just trying to figure out our new
normal and all the things. But anyway, at school that day,
somebody had told me that if you hold an egg
exactly right in your hands, then it will not break,
no matter how much pressure you put on it. But
I was telling my parents about this, and I'm a
little naive and especially at that time, But anyway, my
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dad said, Okay, go to the refrigerator and get an egg,
and you we'll prove it. He's like, you can definitely
break an egg. And I said, no, Dad, I promised you.
This guy told me at school, you can't break the egg.
So I went to the refrigerator and I got the egg,
and my dad said, let me see it. So he
takes the eggs. I probably should tell you really quickly. Sorry.
My dad is a civil engineer, very black and white,
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very dry sense of humor, very serious man. And you
know he was the strict one growing up all the things. Anyway,
so he takes the egg in his hand, and he's
holding it in his left hand, and with his right hand,
he just suddenly smashes the egg. It went everywhere. It
went on me, it went on my mom, it went
on the blinds behind my dad where my dad was
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sitting in our kitchen nook. And I just remember that
was the first time that we genuinely laughed after my
sister Jenny had died. And we laughed and laughed and laughed,
I think until we started crying because none of us
really knew what to do. I was shocked because it
was so out of character for my dad. But anyway,
that's my egg story, and hopefully it was you guys,
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and you've enjoyed the story. And I love the show.
I love the way that you guys just are so random.
I come home and I tell my husband, guess what
Amy told me today? And he knows I'm talking about you, Amy,
because he does the same thing about Bobby. He's like, oh, guess,
but Bobby told me. So we just pretend like you're
our friends. And anyhow, Kat, I'm happy to have you
now be a part of that as well. So love
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you girls. Hope you guys have a the day you
need to have.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
So, in full transparency, when Kat and I first got
this voicemail, we were like, did we talk about eggs?
Because even she was like, I think it was y'all
that talked about eggs, So then we were doubting if
we ever talked about eggs. I do have the eggs
story that I've mentioned about my college boyfriend when he
made me eggs and I had an eating disorder for sure,
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because I flipped out because he put the yolk in
the scrambled eggs and I emotionally couldn't hold it together.
And I was very bizarre in my reaction to the
yolk being in the eggs.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
So I think we did.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
On an episode you shared that and then we said,
like everybody has a story with eg there has maybe
there's another story.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Too, so like everybody has yeah, Like so maybe you
have a story about eggs. And then if you shared
a story about eggs.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
I don't know that I've shared a specific story about eggs,
but eggs gross me out.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I could come up with a lot of stories. But
what's funny about this voicemail is I do have a
similar egg story about the same exact thing she was doing.
I do have a similar egg story about the same
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exact thing she was doing.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
And you've never told that.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I never told. I don't think I've ever told that
because I don't know why I would ever come up.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Because that's crazy in itself that you have the same experience.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
So when I was in college, this is going into
my senior year, I think you know when we well
not everybody might know this, but you have like spirit
week before you do like rush and as a bonding activity,
we did a talent show.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
I don't have any talents, not talents that fit in
a talent show, you know, because.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
You have many many talents, thank you.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
So me and a couple of my friends decided we're
going to do a Magic Show, and so we had
to come up with magic tricks. We had a couple
of good card tricks and then we just like googled
some and one of the tricks we did was the
egg thing where if you hold it between I don't
exactly remember what it is. You guys could google this,
but it's like if you hold between your thumb and
maybe your pointer finger, the egg will not break, like
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it literally won't.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
You can do it as hard as you can.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
So we were doing this when we picked a random
person from an audience to do the trick with us,
and she immediately smashed the egg and got the egg
all over the carpet in our nice chapter room, and
it was just really awkward and we didn't have the
same experience where people were laughing.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
It was more like your magic show. It's really bad.
So I know about that trick and I appreciate it,
and if you want it to work, you have to
do it right. You have to do it right.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Another egg thing that we have discussed is I don't
know how to say yolk.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Yeah, I was trying not to bring attention to that.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Well, Shannon just reminded me.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
I was trying to be cool. Because I'm trying to
let you be yourself. You know, you can say yoke,
you just you just naturally say yolk.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Yeah, yoke. Yeah, you can say like woke. It doesn't
come naturally out of your egg yolk. Yeah, that sounds nice.
There it is.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Did I do it egg yoke? Yeah, it's just not
what naturally which I want to get rid of filler words.
We've talked about this.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Right, Is yolk a filler word for you?
Speaker 4 (32:22):
No?
Speaker 3 (32:22):
But it just makes me think of how I talk
in general. I would like to get rid of filler words. No,
no likes, uh anyway for that, just thinking being intentional
with my words and speaking more slowly with intention so
that I don't say the words like like like do
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you think we could do that?
Speaker 1 (32:49):
I've I would love to speak more slowly. But if
I do speak more slowly, well I add more just
like I just did there.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
I think when you're speaking intentionally, you avoid those words,
so you're not going to say it instead of a
filler word. There might be a pause, yeah, but there's
not going to be a.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Or a like yeah. Oh, that can be our goal
for the second half of the year. Okay, we're going
to speak slower, lofty goals here more intentionally.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Yeah, I mean speaking with intention is a good goal
no matter what. There's just so many thoughts in my
head right now, even while I'm talking, just like I'm
surprised I get out what I do, you know, and
then it's like there's competition in there. I had a
last weekend in Austin. I was using weight why am
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I talking? Because I'm seeing so many people at iHeart
Country Festival that I only see once a year, some
of company people that or people that are in Austin
at this particular event every year, so I see them
three hundred and sixty five days later. We're catching up
on things. We're talking and one girl in particular, she's
from New York. She asked me one question and I
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ended up going on and on and on about it.
And then when I get done talking, even the whole
time i'm talking, I'm thinking like, why am I saying this?
Why am I saying the shut up? Shut up? Shut up?
But then I would keep talking, and so then it
turned into that waste. Instead of wait, it was why
am I still talking? And I thought about that for
like two days after I left Austin. And hopefully she
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hasn't thought about it again. But I swear to you
get this is what she said. When she found a
break where she could say something. She was like, Okay,
it's so good to see. She's like, I was actually
walking out of the hotel to go meet somebody for coffee,
and I'm like, oh my god, the worst. Not only
does she have somewhere to be, she didn't respond, well,
she really wanted to know, she asked. She was like,
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I thank you so much for that update, Like I
really wanted to know. Like that's great, I know, but
she did not need the update I gave her. That's
not even someone that I don't want to be rude
in saying it this way because she's done nothing wrong.
But it's like, you know, people, why does it feel
rude to say it this way? But I'm just gonna
go ahead and say it because I don't I want
to be intentional with my words. But like she doesn't
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even deserve that information, right.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Like we don't have that you ever shared? I overshared, Yeah,
do you do that out of anxiety or yes?
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Just like, oh my gosh, I can't believe she asked
me about that, And like da da da, And then
I keep going, and then she would ask a follow
up question, but not to the follow up, I would
answer five other things.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
You're also very I'll say this about you and maybe
you can tell me if this is you think it
sends from anxiety or if it's your personality. But from
my experience of being with you and being with you
around other people, you're very open. So I think sometimes
you overshare, but it might be an overshare for one person,
but for you, you're an open person.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Right. It's not so much that I regret anything that
I said. It just none of it was necessary in
that circumstance or situation. And I'm not close enough to
that person to even be giving some of those details.
So that I was like, why was I sharing that?
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (36:14):
And then so for two days I was like, and
now here I am thinking about it again, And I
was like, but in my head while I'm talking, why
am I still talking? Why am I still talking right now?
Like now I'm still talking about it? Why am I
thinking about it?
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Well, you're going to work on You're going to need
maybe you can use that ring thing that we were
talking about last week. When people like that ask you
questions to help you slow.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Down, Yeah, twist the ring in like time, a little
bit of like a.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
One second pause or something like that, isn't awkward.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
And so no, because that would have given her the
opportunity to be like, oh my gosh, I'm on my
way to meet Dada dah for coffee. And then if
I would have twisted my ring three times, and part
of this like see I just did it again, Like
if I here, here's me saying what I was going
to say, but now with intention, I would have twisted
my ring three times, that would have given her the
opportunity to go where she needed to go. She was
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being kind to standing there listening to me go on
and on and on when she really needed to go.
She was trying to engage, and then it hit a
level of oh, now I'm going to be late.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
You also know how to do this though, because you
speak very well. I've told you this before. You've speak
very well for with work.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
When I'm on and I need to be on. For example,
this weekend, I had to do a brunch thing with
a group of women. There was probably about thirty women
there and on Saturday, and it was they were part
of her country festival, and they were in from all
over the country and they were having a brunch and
I was invited to do a toast and talk about
the founder and I didn't know much about it going
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into it, but spent about five minutes with the founder
before I went up, and then I gave my toast,
and even I when I got on the elevator, it
was te for me to leave. I was like, huh,
I don't know how I just busted that out like
I did, and how it all made sense because I
didn't know where I was going. Even when I'm talking,
I'm thinking, I'm telling this story and that's kind of crazy.
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How now I'm going to tie it into this next
part of the story and then I'm able to put
a bow on it somehow. To your point, I can't
acknowledge that eventually I'll get there. And a lot of
the women came up and they were like, oh, they
were like, see that's what's stop.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
That's an okay place to say.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
They were like yeah, I mean you could say, they said,
but they were like, is not a filler word? They
like a saying like they said this, you can change
the word.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
But I think well and speaking with intention. Afterwards, some
women came up and said to me that I did
a good job. You did a good job. Because as
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I'm speaking with intention and speaking clothes slowly about how
these women came up in compliment, I'm thinking, why am
I saying this loud? I'm bragging about myself from other people?
Shut up and those look like.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
That game that we play the poetry from Neanderthals and
you can only say one syllable.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
They said, I did good job.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Yeah me good me good at random public speak?
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Public speaking?
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Uh so anyway, anyway.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
I like the.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
If you notice Amy speaking better with less filler words,
shout it out. Well, that hasn't happened yet, I know,
but have people look out for it.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
This is an intention. I also wanted to do it
last week and I don't know that I have.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
This is going to take more than a week, my friend.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
This is another thing I'll let you went on in
my brain when I'm I'm now, I'm very hyper aware
of my ums and likes. At I heard a country festival,
I have to go on stage and do stuff. But
there's a teleprompter, and you're on stage, and you have
a microphone, and there's thousands and thousands of people.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
But you have to be able to read really good.
That's why you're so.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Prompter's big font, it's big, funt still like it's not.
But what I'm saying is I'm reading the prompter and
I'm having other thoughts.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
That's tough.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
And as I'm reading the prompter this, the things that
are going through my mind are I'm seeing in front
of these thousands of people, some of which I can
tell their listeners, some are not, Some are just there
for the country music. They have no clue who we are,
and it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Right.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Well, there's some people that they're in the front rows
and they're waving and they're like, hey, me wave and
I'm like hey, and I'm thinking, my head is I'm
reading what I'm supposed to read on the prompter introducing
an artist that's about to come on stage. But in
my head, I'm thinking, how do I say this? Because
the prompter is a very it's a script. I'm reading
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it verbatim. You can't go off it sounds, you know,
you don't. You can add lib a little, but you
want to get the just of what they have on
the prompter, and it's there for me, and it's very professional,
like I'm dressed up, I have a microphone. There's all
these people, I'm a professional, and I'm like thinking, this
is how like we're like our show is ridiculous. I
don't normally speak with such like prompter type, very specific,
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stay on point, there's no likes or ums, And I
guess in my mind, I'm thinking these people are like,
this doesn't sound like her.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
What is she doing up there?
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Why does she sound this way?
Speaker 1 (41:27):
You're so judgmental.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Well, I don't know. I'm just telling you that I
have these thoughts going on in my head while I'm
reading the prompter.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
I just bet that people don't think that deep about
what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
I know they're not, but I'm thinking I guess it
would be a version of I'm not saying it's imposter syndrome,
because I don't even know that I buy that.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
But it's like a like a buy into do I
you don't buy into it?
Speaker 4 (41:49):
No?
Speaker 3 (41:49):
I do, but I don't. I want to be I
don't want to have that, Okay, I don't. So this
is a version of it. Okay, it's like a it's
like an offshoot of imposter syndrome. It doesn't really feel
like but it's like a variant of it because I'm
up there saying that. They're like, that's not normally how
she is. Like, she sounds so professional, look up there
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on stage with a microphone in front of all these people,
and normally she just like sits in her house as
a microphone and says like with her friend.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Cat, you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, I get
what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Which is a silly thing. I should be up there
and be like, this is so awesome. I'm up here
enjoying this.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Look at me, but I'm not.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
I'm like, don't fall. I'm like, don't fall, don't fall,
don't fall, don't mess up the word, don't mess up
the word idiot.
Speaker 4 (42:40):
We're going to work on the inner dialogue for you, Okay.
It's something that I think, more than you're you're speaking,
needs a little bit of fine tuning.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Yeah, I guess we just got to fine tune it
because I already do enough therapy. I already know, I
already know all the things. But it's just like there, Yeah,
I guess was a pointless story.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
No, it's beautiful. We're getting to know you on a
deeper level.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
I'm just letting you inside my head. Yeah, when you're talking,
you have other thoughts. Yeah, say you're on stage talking.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
I'm not trying to get on stage and talk is
the thing. Yeah, but let's say you were well, I
don't done that like twice and it was with you.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Yeah, so I don't. I can't relate to that story.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
And I can't tell you what thoughts I have, But
I will say sometimes when I relate to like talking
to whether it's a friend or an acquaintance or somebody
and being like shut up, like wrap it up, or
like why are you telling the story? And sometimes I
get so in my head that I'll get too quiet
because I'm like, why are you talking too much?
Speaker 1 (43:38):
You know what I mean. So I need to find
a good sweet spot in the middle.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
So I have it.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
I have an inner critic too.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
But you need a little TTT time to talk, little
time to be like, Okay, I've laited enough.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
It's t t T.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
Like having attention and talking and telling stories and all that.
With my friends, I don't have those thoughts. But like
when I'm in other groups, I become a lot more
quiet and less likely to share things.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Yeah. I like small groups, big groups, large like huge groups.
I like groups of people. I don't mind talking at all.
In fact, I've told you I'm working on a keynote.
But here's the thing. I feel like I'm working on
a keynote, and I should just go ahead and work
this into the keynote because it's gonna be my thought anyway.
I'm gonna be out there and I be like, why
am I here giving a keynote? I don't know, I
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shouldn't be giving a keynote. Why but here I am?
Because that's the thought I'm going to be having anyway,
that's my.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
I guess my question was like, why why not you?
Speaker 4 (44:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Why not? Maybe that can be the keynote?
Speaker 3 (44:43):
Why not you? But why not? You?
Speaker 5 (44:46):
Are you? Are you?
Speaker 3 (44:47):
And then I point to the crowd, are you? And you?
Thanks for coming? Bye? Okay, let's se uh that's it.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
We are good.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
That's our wrap on this week's couch Talks. Thank you
for sending voicemails. You can call us eight seven seven
two oh seven two oh seven seven. Thanks for the emails,
Bob and everybody else that sends emails. We really appreciate
you and the email addresses. Hey, they're at Feeling Things
podcast dot com. Uh and we hope wherever you are,
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you have the day you need to have.
Speaker 4 (45:28):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Bye,
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