January 15, 2026 • 40 mins
Amy and Kat answer a listener’s detailed questions about Amy’s laundry routine. Riveting stuff, we know! Lol. It is helpful though if you’re in the process of changing up your routine and you don’t know where to start or how to even use dryer balls! The conversation then shifts into something deeper with a listener's call about fear, retaliation, and why standing up for yourself matters. Another listener wrote in to ask about what Amy watched recently about what happens with the brain on alcohol and sadly Amy can’t find the link, which is frustrating, but maybe one day she will get it.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
All right, break it down.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
If you ever have feelings that you just fons Amy
and Cat gotcha Covin locking a.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Brother, Ladies and folks, do you just follow an the
spirit where it's all the front.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Over real stuff to the chill stuff and the m
but Swayne, sometimes the best thing you can do it
jes stop you feel things.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
This is Feeling Things.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
With Amy and Kat.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Happy Thursday, Welcome to Couch Talks, our Q and a
episode to our Feeling Things podcast. I'm Amy and I'm Kat.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
This reminder, even though we are answering your questions on
catch Talks, this podcast does not serve as replacement or
a substitute for any actual mental health services.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
And guess what, we have a big update in regards
to our disclaimer. This will be the last time that
we really talk about the disclaimer.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Will it be?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
It will be because in the future what we did
before we just did this little intro of Hey, welcome
to Couch Talks. Kat recorded a disclaimer that Houston is
going to speed up a tad and throw it in,
So like next week, the episode will be none of
us talking about the disclaimer. Right, You're going to tune
(01:10):
into couch Talks. It's gonna be like Walker Haysty Amy
Yeah and Feel Things and then I would be like, hey,
welcome to Couch Talks Q and a episode to our
Feeling Things podcast. I'm Amy and I'm Kat. Hit the disclaimer.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Oh you're gonna say that, I don't know. That's kind
of cute. And here's our disclaimer. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Okay, and here's our disclaimer, and then Houston will insert
the disclaimer and it'll be like and then we'll roll
right into the episode.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, but now people are going to be bummed that
they don't get to hear us talk about the disclaimer
and all the I don't war that has come from it.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Honestly, I don't think they are. I think they are like, wow, yay,
they thought of they had a little problem and they've
resolved it.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
They're like, wow, it took six months to figure out.
We're over it.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
We're like, should we say the disclaimer? How where do
we put it? How should we say it? Do we
even need it?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
This episode? This is it's actually really nice because we're
letting everybody in on how we feel versus having this
polished product. You were like, like, you say inside Baseball.
You've been part of this process since the beginning.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, so thank y'all for any and all of your
contributions towards how we should handle the disclaimer. And this
is the new way to us. This is the new us.
This is twenty twenty six. Yeah, because you know, the
disclaimer is definitely necessary for the first email I'm going
to read, which is about laundry tips.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I was about to say, did I miss the email?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Now it is an email from Jasmine, And I love
that now people are putting specifically in parentheses, not anonymous,
or you can say my name. It's fine. Obviously we
want to know when we can't say your name. But
I'm now finding it super cute that people are also
saying it's okay, it's cool you can say my name.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Clarity and I will say, this is one that we
probably could have assumed would be okay because of the
content of the question.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Right, Yeah, because it's like literally about actual laundry, not
someone's dirty laundry.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah, if you knows, and it's not somebody talking about
how they don't wash certain clothes. No, they won't be
embarrassed about anything.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
No, this is Jasmine, not anonymous. Writing in to say this, Hey, Amy,
and kat I was wondering if you could go into
more detail on your laundry situation, Amy, like, type of
non toxic detergent you use, how much oil you put
on the dryer balls and when you put them into
the dryer, how many dryer balls do you use per load,
and anything else that I might be missing. I've been
(03:35):
slowly switching things out for non toxic, and laundry is
next on my list. Love the podcast and kat I
totally agree with you on the Bets dead situation, which
I would say any email we got about Beth's dead,
they were one hundred percent in agreement with you.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
So then, how do you feel now?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I feel swayed?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Well, I don't. I don't want to sway you. Why
I don't.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
That's exactly what it's called. I guess I went in
one way. Yeah, I was swayed, but I got a negative.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Now, I'm not just blindly swayed. I'm not just like
casually swayed. It's critical thinking. I'm taking in all the
different things where I took in everything you had to
say about Bethstead and even our our listeners that emailed
in about it. Everybody had valid points.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Well, I also would like to just say one thing
about this and I'm I'm probably never going to talk
about this podcast. That's a lie. I'll talk about it again,
but I just have one thing I need to say
next time I recommend something, I'm going to finish it
because I feel like I got so many people, including
(04:45):
like you and my friends into listening to this podcast,
and then we were all disappointed. So I because I
want to be like a reputal person, like if I
if I recommend somebody, I want to be like I
can you can trust Kat. I'm now everybody listening. If
I recommend something, I'm gonna do my due diligence. And
I'm sorry if I wasted any of your life listening
(05:05):
to this podcast.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I know we like literally assigned it as homework. Here's
the thing, though it was and still is popular. It's
very popular. It's like on the top in the moment,
like you were part of a pop culture moment. And
I don't think there's anything wrong. I don't think that
ruined your reputation because you were sucked in like everybody else.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
And I will say it's different because the episodes that
kind of like bummed all of us out weren't out
yet when I recommended it.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I don't think so we had to wait for them
to be really sure. I knew you were going to
pay for them on Patreon, which we weren't. I say, Kat,
don't rob us of that, because I wouldn't have listened
to Bethstead if it wasn't for you. And think of
how much conversation it's created between us. We did a
whole episode on that instead in the ending, We've had
(05:57):
a lot of back and forth with our listener about it.
I think that, okay, I wouldn't go full black and
white on that. I would live in the gray, okay,
because sometimes.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
You might just have a bad recommendation.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
But it wasn't a bad recommendation. It still was good
at the point that you recommended it, so good.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
You're right. It's one of those things where like if
you break up with your boyfriend, you have to like
throw out every good memory that you ever had with
that person, and I don't know you still can have
that was a fun time. It could if it was fun,
that relationship could have brought a lot of fun moments
that you really enjoyed. Just like this podcast brought a
lot of fun moments that I enjoyed until the last
like three episodes.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Here.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I don't talk about our podcast or recommend it to people,
but listen to hall Lam I am okay. So my
friend Amy, who does my lashes, she listens to a
lot of podcasts because when she's working on people, that's
like an hour, like, so each person that comes in
through the day, they're listening to a new podcast. And
she told me she listened to Beth'stead and I was like, oh,
(06:58):
we did a podcast on that follow up, like you
should listen to. She's like, oh, I'll have to check
it out. And then I'm like cringe. But I've known
Amy for eight years or longer so and she's my friend,
so I don't really care. But then I went to
a new person. I got this lymphatic massage and she
listened to Beth's Deead.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
How does that come up? But you're just like, have
you listened to any good podcasts?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
No, I don't know, just conversation like it comes like
a naturally. I can't. Yeah, I don't know, you don't organic, Yeah,
how do things come up? I don't know? And I
said oh, I'm gonna send you a podcast about it.
So I had her numbers, so I texted it and
it was our podcast and then I was like, oh.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Did you tell her?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
It's really nice? Well, the way it came out at first,
it was like I was just recommending a podcast about it.
And then I was like, Okay, this is gonna sound lame,
but it's my friend and I that's our podcast. And
she was like, oh yeah, no, I knew you had
a podcast.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Like it's you feel lame saying that you've a podcast.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Well, I think because it's been job for so long.
I don't feel like, first of all, I don't care
when you start a podcast. If you started a podcast yesterday,
that's great your soul podcaster like, it doesn't. But because
that's like radio and podcasting has been my career for
We started podcasting The Bobby Bone Show in like twenty eleven.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
So you don't feel lame.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
I don't feel lame, but it's saying I have one.
I feel lame being that I recommended episodes to people
two twice twice in like two days. And I was like,
oh well, but mostly because I said my co host
kat her take on it. Was very different than mine,
and you need to listen to her thoughts on the ending.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I think my thoughts were the majority. Yeah, majority, So
I think people were probably like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, No, the lymphatic massage person was like, oh, one
hundred percent for sure. He's such a liar. I don't
believe anything you're saying.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Okay, so do you think and here we are still
talking about so okay, here's one question and then we
don't have to keep packing podcasts about Beth said, but
do you think the hosts we're a lying? Like do
you think that they were putting on a show? Do
you think they really believed him?
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I hope so, because why would.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
They do that to be politically correct?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
No, I think the husband if he thought that, the
husband would be like, y'all are idiots. He's lying.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Then how did they have not one?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Okay, maybe there's details we don't know that they can't say. Sure,
do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah? Sure? But then like, don't make a podcast about it?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Well they were already all in. Yeah, if we'd already
invested that much time into it'd be like, well, let's
just put a ball on this thing. The best thing,
the best.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Way we know how that's true.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Okay, okay, back to laundry.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Thanks for getting listeners.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah too. We should have two new downloads for the
best of episode.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
But why wait?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Back to that your question that you asked me. Do
you feel Amy's saying you.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Have a podcast When people ask me what I do
for a living, I cannot bring myself to do it.
But that's because I think I'd feel different if I
were you, if that was like.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Well, I know that you're a licensed therapist, which is great.
Do you ever say and also I have a podcast
because you make a good living.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
No, but I think this is what it is. Do
you say I make a good living?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yeah, you know I make a good living both ways.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yes, yes, I think I feel more like I don't
want to self promote. It feels like it, but I
guess I'm self promoting if I'm saying that I'm a therapist.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
But that's different. I get it because that is your profession, whereas,
like you said, for me, where I'm coming from is
radio and podcasting has been my profession.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
But I'm going to practice saying like I'm a therapist
and I host a podcast.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Oh you know, one time I felt lame because I
was wearing her Feeling Things.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
March.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I was wearing the hoodie in the fants. I was
at my boyfriend's son soccer game, and one of the
other moms there was like, oh, I love that jocker set.
Where did you get it? And I was like, I
was like, that's my podcast.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
We made it.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
And so then I was like, well, shoot, should I
tell her like it's available? But I acted, I mean
the way that I talked about it, she probably thought
that we just made it for ourselves for fun, and
it's not event It's not like I, yeah, oh yeah,
Feeling Things podcast dot com. You could get yourself one.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I haven't had somebody do that. I've wondered what I
would say, like, where do you get that? Oh, here's
my website.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Well maybe just don't even just be like, oh yeah,
Feeling Things podcast dot com.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
And if they don't listen to the podcast, they don't
know that I'm the host. Yeah, they're going to go
listen to it and like, oh my gosh, that was
the host. How humble?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
You're so humble? Okay, back to the laundry. I don't
know why I just stuttered there, but let me answer it.
Question by question, Okay, Jasmine, I use tied pods that
are unsentenced, so I don't know if tied unscented falls
(12:03):
into the non toxic category. Does it?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I don't know, but that's shocking to me. Why I
thought that you use like special laundry detergament.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Well, I liked method, you know, coconut mango, Yeah, but
then I had to go unscented, and for some reason
I ended up just grabbing the tide unscented. I mean,
I've used liquid and pods. Maybe because my son runs
a lot and he's a teenage boy and he smells
a lot, And I'm like, is the other detergent totally
(12:36):
unscented and natural getting his odors out? Which some people
have those systems. I think a listener emailed us in
about the water oxidized water thing. I forget what it's called.
We can look it up. You use no detergent. It's
an expense upfront, obviously, but over time you save money
because you never have to buy detergent again. And the
water cleans your clothes. It does something like there's a
(13:01):
pump that does something special.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
It's like a different washing machine.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I don't know if it's a different washing machine or
a pump like a filter that your water goes through
that hooks up to your machine. Will look it up
and as we're talking then I'll circle back to this.
But Shannon, if you need keywords, put like oxidized water
machine that washes your clothes and no detergent, and something
may come up. But so mine is tied free and gentle.
(13:29):
I guess is what it's called specifically, and I'm a fan.
I like it. But if if you can have smells
or sense my skin cannot have it, that method mango
is legit. And then the dryer balls, how many per load?
How many can I find? Sometimes they're missing? Sometimes I
(13:52):
do three. On a larger load, I might do four,
but sometimes I just there's one in there and I'm
like one it is.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
So this is something I've been nervous to try. The
oil essential oil on the dry ball because I'm afraid
it's going to get on my clothes.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Valid concern because it does. So here is my solution
to that, and it has worked for me thus far.
So Jasmine, what you're gonna do is I put like
a drop per ball. But what I do is I
get my balls and I don't put fresh drops every load. Okay,
(14:29):
you probably should if you want the the smell to
be fresh, but it lasts to me. I put like
a drop or two on a ball, and then a
drop or two on another ball, and then I marry
the balls together. They kiss where the drops are, and
I would rub it. I rub it in. I rub
the balls like sh.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
But does it really make that much of a difference
in this is the Is the risk worth the reward?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I smell it, Okay, I smell it, and there's no
risk when you do can push the balls together when
your balls make out, So imagine that you get what
I'm saying. And then if you have got three or
four balls, you just do the same thing, or maybe
you just put the vanilla on one ball. But I
will say, if you have the white dryer balls, you
will get oil spots on them and then they start
to look a little wonky. So that's why I really
(15:15):
love my bumblebee ones because they have black on them.
And one concerned I had is the black going to
get like the dye for the black gonna get on
my white clothes if I use the bumblebees on a
solid white load so far, so good. Oh you try
to no issues.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
You are a daredevil.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah, I take one for the team, thank you. I experimented,
so you you put the oil on, just a little
drop or two, smash the balls together, rub it in.
Maybe once you put the stuff in the washing machine,
go ahead and do your balls and have them waiting
in the dryer, and that way the oil can absorb
a little bit. So that's been my solution so far.
That has worked for me. And I will say any
(15:57):
oil spots that I had that showed up, I just
re washed them and they were gone. Okay, so that
wasn't an issue. I think we addressed all of her
questions with that. It was non toxic detergent again TBD
on if mine's on toxic, but it's unscented. It's free
and clear the dryballs and the liquid. And then how
many balls per load? I mean that's up to you,
but I've never used more than four balls. It says
(16:24):
tied free and gentle as a hypoallergenic laundry detergent. Okay,
Shannon found the is it called an ozone generator?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
You can clean clothes without detergent using oxidation from a
systems like ozone oh three generators which break down dirt,
or natural oxidizers like hydrogen peroxide for whites.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
But I mean you would just put hydrogen peroxide in
your laundry.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I'm not. Yeah, it's I'm not, but it says it
can help. But what I'm talking about specifically is an
oxidi oxidation system because my friend got one and she
said her husband bikes a lot. So she was like,
you know, sweaty speaking a ball. Yeah, and she was
like it works great, it works so great.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I just think I like soap.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yeah, that's great. But some people have sensitivity.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Or sensitive skin. Okay, got it. So then what do
they wash their bodies with?
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Oh, like beef tallow soap or something?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Does that? Is that? Dis infact?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I have no idea. Okay, I have to use unscented I.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Use unscented dove. I use unscented bar soap, shower Joe,
It's better for you in generally, I.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Think, Okay, so a soap, A bar of soap, my
dermatologist told me, is gonna be less drying than liquid soap.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
So okay, but what do you wash your do you
wash yourself with? You don't use a lufa, I can tell.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
No, I have lufahs, I don't always, but I'm not
anti lufa. What do you mean I don't use a lufa?
You can tell? What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
I feel like a loof is, like now a shameful
thing to use. I don't. I believe it should not
be shameful, but it is not likeas get gross and
there's mold in there. Oh, I can't believe you don't
wash your bed sheets before you put them on your bed.
I can't believe you use a loofah. It feels like similar,
you know.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Oh, so because you have felt judged in the past,
you just wanted to go ahead and pre judge me. No,
I'm not anti lufa. You do have to change them
out regularly. I think my dermachologist said probably every six
to eight weeks or something.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Oh, out of okay, And then I.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Guess it depends on where are you sticking the lufa
and something I've had in the past, which now this
is reminding me that I want to order more. Something
(19:00):
I've had in the past, which now this is reminding
me that I want to order more. Are the gloves
you can put those myths on? And then you just
exfoliate your body with them and then put the bar
of soap in between and build up some SuDS and
then you can wash those in the washing machine. Oh,
throw the gloves in because.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I was gonna say, with a bar of soap, do
you wash yourself with a bar of soap or do
you put it on some other thing and then wash
yourself without.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I just wash myself with the bar of soap right now.
But I need to order me some of my gloves.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
This is one of those things that can I can
get on my brain. Have you ever seen on TikTok
people harvesting real lufahs from the sea. I think they
come from the sea.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
It looks like sponges, I swear to little us.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
You know, a loofah is a.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yeah, I know what a loofah is. They're not not
like the kind that's at CBS. No, you're talking about
a sea sponge that looks like tan or brown.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but not a sponge. It's not a sponge.
It's a loofah. It's like, oh, you plant a loofa.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
It's a place an exfoliating grass, sea sponge, a sea
you can grow your own body loofah.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I got into lufah TikTok for a little bit, but
it's been a while.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Can you grow your own? See lufa? So?
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Oh my god? Okay, so live from the studio, Shannon
says that her sister grows her own lufahs in her
backyard and you can just where does she live?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
So you can do it just right here in your
own backyard. Doesn't have to be anywhere exotic, okay.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
And then you just rub it on your body.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
What oh so that's what she cleans her body with.
There's the lufa from her backyard. I wonder how long
they take to grow? What in the world. I'm glad
I brought this up.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
It counts. Next hobby. She's gonna be alofa harvester.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Well, so, I wonder if you need a lot of
sun and stuff, because our backyard doesn't get a lot
of It's very shaded, so it might not be the
best harvesting ground. But Amy, we could start a little
raised garden bed in your backyard and put some loofs
in there.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Lufas need a long, warm season. You can start the
seeds indoor and then move them outside. They do need
full sun and good soil.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
I wonder what the benefit of using a lufa that
you grow yourself versus this could be.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Our thing if the world ends. You know, I've been
trying to figure out, like if we were post apocalyptic
and you know, people were forming communities, Yeah, they would
want to form communities full of people that have a
special trade. And if there's no radio and podcast equipment,
I mean people might need therapy. So you could still
(21:35):
be good because you could like help communities thrive emotionally.
Think about it. What are we going to offer? Like,
can you sew? Can you build so I can you garden?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Okay, we can take up gardening, but I think the
only thing we're offering is loofahs. We might get left
in the dust.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
What people want to feel clean?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yeah, but I feel like there's other Like what could
just be.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Called part of our gardening portfolio? Yeah? Yeah, yeah yeah,
Like yeah, can we grow tomatoes?
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Can we grow lufahs?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Is your skin gonna feel so good?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
And we can be like if you let us join
your community, we'll throw in an extra free lufah with
the tomatoes.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yes, that's the thing. And therapy.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yes, Okay, we're good. We're going to survive. People are
gonna want us on their team.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah in our community, Yeah, we are welcome. Yep, Okay,
good whew. Okay, we have a voicemail from anonymous. We
don't have a name, and I feel like sometimes anonymous
on voicemail is not because they don't want people to
know it's them, They just don't say their name. If
(22:44):
that's the case, that's okay. This would be our reminder
right now, be like, we want to know who you are.
So if you're leaving a voicemail, just be like, hey,
I'm Amy from Austin. How you found us? What you
do when you listen to you? Are you gardening?
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Are you harvesting lufus?
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Are you on a walk? Are you doing laundry? What
are you doing when you listen to us? So? Are
you getting your lashes done? Recommend it to your lash person. Okay,
we're gonna play the voicemail. It's a little bit longer,
so we have edited down a little. So if you
are the person that left this voicemail and you're like, hey,
wait a second, I said more than that. We're starting
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at the part where you talk about my fear of retaliation.
So thank you. For your entire voicemail, but this is
a little trimmed down. Amy.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
I want to say this to you, sweetheart. You can't
live in fear of retaliation, because people who live in
fear of retaliation will never stand up for themselves and
they will always allow others to take advantage. One of
the things that we live in right now with this
(23:55):
world are people doing bad things and people not speaking
up at it because they're worried about what will happen
from that. And I think I'd rather be taken out
knowing that I did what was right and spoke up,
then to potentially not say anything and then something else
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happened to somebody else that could be possibly worse. And
especially I think about if something happened and I didn't
speak up, and then that same person did something to
one of my children or one of my neighbor's children,
who I feel like they're my children too. So those
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are the things that you want to try and keep forefronts.
It's always good to speak up, don't be afraid of retaliation.
If it's something petty, then yeah, let that go. But
if it's something really important, you always want to speak up.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Okay, kat, you knowing me as my friend and you know,
my fear of retaliation. Some of the voicemail that got
cut out, the part we didn't play. She was referencing
Sean Holmes because we watch that documentary and people feared
speaking up about some awful things that he did, which
I understand that like someone that powerful, that is legit.
I feel like on our level, if something like that
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would happened to me, I hope that I would be
able to stand up for myself and want to stand
up so that maybe it wouldn't happen to other people.
I guess my retaliation hasn't even thought that wide of
a tragic type of event. Mine is more. You know,
if like my uber driver, there's an issue and now
he knows where I live, I'm probably just still going
to tip him and like never bring it up because
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he knows where I live. But like, do you think
I would not like stand up for myself? No?
Speaker 1 (25:39):
I think that all.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Well, No, I'm curious, okay, because I do wonder okay,
because I mean, my fear runs deep.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I think that this is nuanced. Like I think you
can and you have and you will stand up for
yourself yourself in certain situations, but you're taking into account
the risks and the rewards. And I will say, and
this is like no shit to the listener because I
understand what she was saying. It's like, you have to
be able to stand up for yourself, to like make
change and all of that, and to like value yourself.
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And there are people that like think, speaking of the
p ditty stuff, like if somebody has been a victim
of something, it might be better serving to them and
their mental health and everything to like not do anything.
There are plenty of people that go through stuff like
that or get hurt or taken advantage of or abused
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who it's the safer thing for them, and it is
an act of standing up for themselves to not approach
the person that has done the harm. So it's hard
to answer this question because yes, I think that you do,
and you have and you will. I think you've helped
me be like Catherine, it's not worth it. Like when
I want to get in a fight with somebody in
a parking lot, which I've done multiple times, and now
(26:52):
I'm like, Okay, you never know what somebody else is,
what's going on with them. It's not worth it to
fight over this small and justice.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Because I might follow you home and murder you.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
They could murder me there like or there one guy,
one guy in a parking lot where I got in
a little tip with him, he slammed his car door
into my car and dented it and then left. So
it didn't help me to stand up for myself in
that situation.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Wait, what did you do? I don't remember this.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
This was years ago. So I was parking in a
parking lot and I pulled into a spot and there
was a guy the car next to me. Nobody was
in it when I pulled into it, and he was
parked like right on the parking lot line. I was
in the lines of my spot. I parked well, and
I am saying that as somebody who doesn't park very well.
I did a good job. I have a picture of it.
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For this guy parked like right on the line, so
like he was not in the spot very well. I
was on the phone and he came. I guess he
was trying to get into his car, and he starts
banging on my car and screaming like it was. It
was very weird, very weird. And he was just like
seemed like a older, middle aged white man and I'm
(28:02):
on the phone. Classic literally no, but literally classic. And
I think that also was like, this old man is
not going to boss me around.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
No offense of your older, middle aged white man listening
to us right now, you might agree, yeah, we might
have some We got an email from someone. I don't
think you're reading her email, but she was just sharing
like a nice note and she was like, I get
I listen while I get ready, and my husband's in
the bathroom with me, so he listens to so he's
another male listener. And I feel like that's what made
(28:32):
me think, oh, man, her husband's probably older white yeah,
because she said she's an innest. Now yeah, so like
her kids are grown anyways.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Not your Styn, it's not yet you. So this man
starts banging on my window and I like a little
bit roll down my window and he's like if you're
effing car, like yelling at me like I've done something wrong,
and I was like what. So I got out of
my car because I was like did I I'm so confused,
(29:01):
got in my car and I looked at him and said,
do you want me to move my car? If you
asked me nicely, I'll move it, and he was like
are you He was screaming. People were watching. This actually
made me upset. People walked by and watched, and nobody
came to my rescue. So if you remember that, if
(29:22):
that was you, I'm so upset about it. So then
he's like obviously like and then so he starts he
takes his car door. He was like, I can't get
in my car, takes his car door and starts slamming
it against mine, and then I go, well, now you've
dented my car, so I'm definitely not moving my car.
I'm going to call the cops. Then he got into
his car through his passenger door.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
And crawled over to the.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Little block of shamp backed up and left.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Did you get his license? Late? No?
Speaker 1 (29:50):
But the parking lot had cameras, so I was like whatever.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I called the cops and told them this guy now,
and I told.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Them what happened. But then I had a meeting, and
I was like, I can't sit here and wait for
the cops because I have a little baby dent in
my car. I wanted to get him in trouble so bad,
the justice part of me, but I was like, I
have a meeting. The meeting is more important. I don't
really care about this dent in my car, because like
I should, but I don't because I don't care about
my car and he got away with it. He got
(30:18):
away with it. But I can show you. I'm gonna
look back in my camera role and show you the
picture of my parking job. Well within the lines. Is
that not insane?
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
So like hindsight, I'm like, well, he obviously if he's
acting like that, he's not saying therefore I should not
provoke him. Therefore I should just do what he says,
because if he's that insane that he's gonna bash my
car and with his car doork, he could have a
gun and he could shoot me, you know, like he's
already not thinking clearly. But then the other part of
me is like, I'm not gonna let somebody treat me
(30:48):
like that. So that's where the nuance comes in, where like,
what's more standing up for myself saying that this isn't
worth it and like my life is valuable or proving
a point to this?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Do you think he was inebriated somehow and to drugs impaired?
Is that the word?
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I honestly never thought about that. It was like ten
in the morning, which doesn't mean anything like.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah, that would classic trust am with a if there
an alcohol.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
It was downtown, so it was like it was like
the Gulch area, so there were bars and place they
wouldn't be serving alcohol.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
So yeah, but they just have it themselves.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yeah, they wake up. I did not think about that
at all.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Well, that rolls right into our next voicemail we have,
which is about drugs and alcohol. That rolls right into
our next voicemail we have, which is about drugs and alcohol,
(31:57):
or at least I guess I brought up how I
watched some videos. Maybe I said movie. I know that
it was on YouTube. I was at a family therapy
thing and they were showing these short films or clips.
But what we were watching was on YouTube. But we
can go ahead and play the voicemail from Shannon, who
(32:18):
was curious about this.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Amy said that she watched a movie or a documentary
or something about how the brain works on drugs and alcohol,
and it was very interesting and I would love to
know what documentary or what movie she watched to learn
about that. That has always been intriguing to me and
I would love to get some more information. So maybe
in the next podcast or something, she might be able
(32:43):
to mention it, thank you.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
And have the day you need to have, Okay, Shannon,
not our Shannon, different Shannon, obviously a voice.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Shannon sent a voicemail.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
She was like, I was.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Nervous to ask you or I just wanted to feel
part of the group.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
So I called in and left a voicemail.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
So, I know that they gathered all of the clips
of what we were watching from YouTube, but I don't
know specifically what they were. And I tried to go
in into YouTube and find the exact ones, but none
of them looked familiar. So what I can say is
that there's lots of info on YouTube from I guess
you wanted to be a trusted source and professional professional
(33:25):
and they know what they're talking about. From what I
came across just quick glance, there was like so many
videos that would be helpful and resourceful and understanding how
the brain works when drugs and help call enter the system.
Where did you watch this at our family? Intensive?
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Was it a movie? And there was like a car
driving through like a mountain dirt road or something like that, and.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
There's yeah, he did do that, and then he also
had and.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
He did did he do the thing with the gun
and the guy and.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
See the thing with a gun, but he had a
water hose.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
He did he had a metaphor about a man and
having a gun to his head.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Okay, now he might have that, Okay, but it wasn't
in the clip we watched, But that it sounds like, well,
we watched lots of different clips.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
You know.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
It'd be like we'd watch a ten minute video and
then we take a break and she would fast forward
or do whatever. I just know that the clips were
from YouTube, but sometimes there's parts of movies on YouTube,
so I don't know the original situation. And I tried
to go in to see if I could find it
for you, Shandon, and I'm so sorry I can't. And
I don't know if this is helpful, but YouTube had
a lot of really cool videos, and yeah, if you
(34:30):
come across like what Cat's saying, there was like a
guy and he was in like this really cool rock
structure that was sort of supposed to look like certain
parts of the brain, and then he would have a
water hose and he would lower it through the canyon
to like demonstrate like what was happening in the brain,
it's not helpful at all.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Well, okay, I have a really good video that we
used to show in when I worked in treatment where
the clip's old.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
He's kind of he doesn't look old, but the video
looks a little you know, like what maybe two thousand, Oh,
okay at least, or are you going like eighties nineties?
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Mine was like nineties. But I'll see if I can
find the name of this video, because this video was
like lame sauce, like it was not like cool, but
it was so helpful.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Okay, that fits this vibe.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Okay, like a movie you would watch in like science
class in high school.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Yes, okay, with all these analogies. But that's the cool
part is it helps you actually understand what is going
on with addiction in the brain and why we all
react differently, Like it's like okay, yeah, my brain isn't
gonna do that. And it also separates it from the
person a little bit, like if you just were to
(35:39):
look at what could be happening inside their brain that
they literally have no control over, and then that.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Helps with like depersonalizing it.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Yeah, and making it more diase. I mean compassion is
very personal, but it just helps give clarity to where, yeah,
you can maybe have more room for compassion because with
an addict or an alcoholic, there's a lot of chaos
and it makes it's very frustrating. And yeah, there can
be space for detachment for sure, and you need to
have healthy boundaries. But for me, I found it fascinating
(36:10):
because I had never seen it quite explain in that way.
And maybe I just needed to email the therapist and
be like.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Wait, that's a great idea.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Well, but I don't have her contact, and but i'd
have to google her and then just cold email her,
or maybe I can call the place and get her,
but I don't know what they hand out, you know.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Okay, well, let me see if I can find this video.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Okay, so check the show notes. If we find it,
we will link in the show notes. We'll say like
here's the video all caps.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
And if we can't find it then then good luck.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Okay, well Healefully it'll be in the show notes for you.
That is definitely what we would prefer. We always want
to help out when we can, which begin of helping
out if you have something going on in life, you
want to email us. As you can see today, our
voicemails and emails weren't about anything super mental health related.
But we are a very diverse podcast. Like I just
(37:03):
opened up our inbox and twenty seven minutes ago we
got an email that is cancer related. And then I
know we have some fertility stuff that has come in
that's heavier that we've got coming up on future episodes.
So as you can see, stuff will be all over
the place. But this person is just emailed twenty seven
minutes ago said they just started listening to our podcast recently.
(37:26):
There are only six episodes in.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Oh wow, So I.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Wonder if that means they started with the feeling things
in April or did they go Surely they didn't go
back to four things like twenty eighteen, right, Well.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Then they wouldn't be emailing this.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
True, right, Yeah, good point. You're so smart.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
That's what I'm here for.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
That's what you're here for. So, like she's only six
episodes in, by the time she gets to this one,
she'll have learned that we're very diverse. We cover ours
like what a wide variety.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
She's gonna get to the process of somebody saying we
have we're two on organized, and she's gonna say I
love that.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Yeah, but also shout out to her being six episodes
in and already sending an email.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Yeah, slow clap, and a shout out to us because
we obviously made her feel comfortable enough to email us
six episodes.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
She hasn't gotten to the BET's a dead part. Oh yeah, okay, yeah,
but we still want to hear from all, regardless of
if you feel like it's a parasocial relationship, because it
is one and we want we want to have one.
We're just gonna all keep it, keep it healthy, keep
it safe. We want hp HPR. You can do it.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
P HPR healthy parasocial relationships, yes, hr HPR. Oh my gosh.
We're gonna make sure to set say I'm in a HPR,
I'm in a healthy parasocial relationship sick.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
And then be wearing it and people like where'd you
get that? Be Like our podcast made it just for fun,
But we hope that you'll email us. Or is the
year of the voicemails, so you can also call us
which is eight seven seven two oh seven two oh
seven seven. That number is also in the show notes.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Leave us your name if you want.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Yeah, or be anonymous if you want, and if you're
worried that your voice may sound the same. I don't
know that. We could go full blown voice changer like
on Beth's Dead.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
I bet Houston can do that.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Okay, Houston can change your voice. We're speaking for him.
If you need your voice changed, we can do that.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Don't let anything hold you back.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Or you could experiment with an accent, just like call
in and be like, hey, and you can make up
a name, do your Russian. Hey, I'm Linda and I
was calling about my husband, you know, like you did?
You would you know that that's me?
Speaker 1 (39:48):
If I was like, hey, hold on, okay, hey, I
just close my ears.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
I'm I'm Linda, and my husband has been Honestly, I
think I would not know. Call in my sister. Oh no,
it's a little scandalous.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Wait, I think I wouldn't know. You wouldn't know. Some
of it's a little fake. So you're gonna work on that.
Your Russian one's good though.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
I say hello, I say hello. I've been listening to
a podcast and my sister has a lot of issues,
and my father was so my father was in the money.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
You kind of had like a long Island accent mixed
in there, so.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
I mixed Russian and Long Island. Okay, I'll work on it. Okay,
But however you want to communicate with us, we have
options and we hope wherever you are.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
You have the day you need to have. Bye. Bye,
Good.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
All right, break it down.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
If you ever have feelings that you just fons Amy
and Cat gotcha Covin locking a.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Brother, Ladies and folks, do you just follow an the
spirit where it's all the front.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Over real stuff to the chill stuff and the m
but Swayne, sometimes the best thing you can do it
jes stop you feel things.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
This is Feeling Things.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
With Amy and Kat.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Happy Thursday, Welcome to Couch Talks, our Q and a
episode to our Feeling Things podcast. I'm Amy and I'm Kat.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
This reminder, even though we are answering your questions on
catch Talks, this podcast does not serve as replacement or
a substitute for any actual mental health services.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
And guess what, we have a big update in regards
to our disclaimer. This will be the last time that
we really talk about the disclaimer.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Will it be?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
It will be because in the future what we did
before we just did this little intro of Hey, welcome
to Couch Talks. Kat recorded a disclaimer that Houston is
going to speed up a tad and throw it in,
So like next week, the episode will be none of
us talking about the disclaimer. Right, You're going to tune
(01:10):
into couch Talks. It's gonna be like Walker Haysty Amy
Yeah and Feel Things and then I would be like, hey,
welcome to Couch Talks Q and a episode to our
Feeling Things podcast. I'm Amy and I'm Kat. Hit the disclaimer.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Oh you're gonna say that, I don't know. That's kind
of cute. And here's our disclaimer. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Okay, and here's our disclaimer, and then Houston will insert
the disclaimer and it'll be like and then we'll roll
right into the episode.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, but now people are going to be bummed that
they don't get to hear us talk about the disclaimer
and all the I don't war that has come from it.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Honestly, I don't think they are. I think they are like, wow, yay,
they thought of they had a little problem and they've
resolved it.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
They're like, wow, it took six months to figure out.
We're over it.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
We're like, should we say the disclaimer? How where do
we put it? How should we say it? Do we
even need it?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
This episode? This is it's actually really nice because we're
letting everybody in on how we feel versus having this
polished product. You were like, like, you say inside Baseball.
You've been part of this process since the beginning.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, so thank y'all for any and all of your
contributions towards how we should handle the disclaimer. And this
is the new way to us. This is the new us.
This is twenty twenty six. Yeah, because you know, the
disclaimer is definitely necessary for the first email I'm going
to read, which is about laundry tips.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I was about to say, did I miss the email?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Now it is an email from Jasmine, And I love
that now people are putting specifically in parentheses, not anonymous,
or you can say my name. It's fine. Obviously we
want to know when we can't say your name. But
I'm now finding it super cute that people are also
saying it's okay, it's cool you can say my name.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Clarity and I will say, this is one that we
probably could have assumed would be okay because of the
content of the question.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Right, Yeah, because it's like literally about actual laundry, not
someone's dirty laundry.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah, if you knows, and it's not somebody talking about
how they don't wash certain clothes. No, they won't be
embarrassed about anything.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
No, this is Jasmine, not anonymous. Writing in to say this, Hey, Amy,
and kat I was wondering if you could go into
more detail on your laundry situation, Amy, like, type of
non toxic detergent you use, how much oil you put
on the dryer balls and when you put them into
the dryer, how many dryer balls do you use per load,
and anything else that I might be missing. I've been
(03:35):
slowly switching things out for non toxic, and laundry is
next on my list. Love the podcast and kat I
totally agree with you on the Bets dead situation, which
I would say any email we got about Beth's dead,
they were one hundred percent in agreement with you.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
So then, how do you feel now?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I feel swayed?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Well, I don't. I don't want to sway you. Why
I don't.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
That's exactly what it's called. I guess I went in
one way. Yeah, I was swayed, but I got a negative.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Now, I'm not just blindly swayed. I'm not just like
casually swayed. It's critical thinking. I'm taking in all the
different things where I took in everything you had to
say about Bethstead and even our our listeners that emailed
in about it. Everybody had valid points.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Well, I also would like to just say one thing
about this and I'm I'm probably never going to talk
about this podcast. That's a lie. I'll talk about it again,
but I just have one thing I need to say
next time I recommend something, I'm going to finish it
because I feel like I got so many people, including
(04:45):
like you and my friends into listening to this podcast,
and then we were all disappointed. So I because I
want to be like a reputal person, like if I
if I recommend somebody, I want to be like I
can you can trust Kat. I'm now everybody listening. If
I recommend something, I'm gonna do my due diligence. And
I'm sorry if I wasted any of your life listening
(05:05):
to this podcast.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I know we like literally assigned it as homework. Here's
the thing, though it was and still is popular. It's
very popular. It's like on the top in the moment,
like you were part of a pop culture moment. And
I don't think there's anything wrong. I don't think that
ruined your reputation because you were sucked in like everybody else.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
And I will say it's different because the episodes that
kind of like bummed all of us out weren't out
yet when I recommended it.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I don't think so we had to wait for them
to be really sure. I knew you were going to
pay for them on Patreon, which we weren't. I say, Kat,
don't rob us of that, because I wouldn't have listened
to Bethstead if it wasn't for you. And think of
how much conversation it's created between us. We did a
whole episode on that instead in the ending, We've had
(05:57):
a lot of back and forth with our listener about it.
I think that, okay, I wouldn't go full black and
white on that. I would live in the gray, okay,
because sometimes.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
You might just have a bad recommendation.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
But it wasn't a bad recommendation. It still was good
at the point that you recommended it, so good.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
You're right. It's one of those things where like if
you break up with your boyfriend, you have to like
throw out every good memory that you ever had with
that person, and I don't know you still can have
that was a fun time. It could if it was fun,
that relationship could have brought a lot of fun moments
that you really enjoyed. Just like this podcast brought a
lot of fun moments that I enjoyed until the last
like three episodes.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Here.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I don't talk about our podcast or recommend it to people,
but listen to hall Lam I am okay. So my
friend Amy, who does my lashes, she listens to a
lot of podcasts because when she's working on people, that's
like an hour, like, so each person that comes in
through the day, they're listening to a new podcast. And
she told me she listened to Beth'stead and I was like, oh,
(06:58):
we did a podcast on that follow up, like you
should listen to. She's like, oh, I'll have to check
it out. And then I'm like cringe. But I've known
Amy for eight years or longer so and she's my friend,
so I don't really care. But then I went to
a new person. I got this lymphatic massage and she
listened to Beth's Deead.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
How does that come up? But you're just like, have
you listened to any good podcasts?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
No, I don't know, just conversation like it comes like
a naturally. I can't. Yeah, I don't know, you don't organic, Yeah,
how do things come up? I don't know? And I
said oh, I'm gonna send you a podcast about it.
So I had her numbers, so I texted it and
it was our podcast and then I was like, oh.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Did you tell her?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
It's really nice? Well, the way it came out at first,
it was like I was just recommending a podcast about it.
And then I was like, Okay, this is gonna sound lame,
but it's my friend and I that's our podcast. And
she was like, oh yeah, no, I knew you had
a podcast.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Like it's you feel lame saying that you've a podcast.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Well, I think because it's been job for so long.
I don't feel like, first of all, I don't care
when you start a podcast. If you started a podcast yesterday,
that's great your soul podcaster like, it doesn't. But because
that's like radio and podcasting has been my career for
We started podcasting The Bobby Bone Show in like twenty eleven.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
So you don't feel lame.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
I don't feel lame, but it's saying I have one.
I feel lame being that I recommended episodes to people
two twice twice in like two days. And I was like,
oh well, but mostly because I said my co host
kat her take on it. Was very different than mine,
and you need to listen to her thoughts on the ending.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I think my thoughts were the majority. Yeah, majority, So
I think people were probably like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, No, the lymphatic massage person was like, oh, one
hundred percent for sure. He's such a liar. I don't
believe anything you're saying.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Okay, so do you think and here we are still
talking about so okay, here's one question and then we
don't have to keep packing podcasts about Beth said, but
do you think the hosts we're a lying? Like do
you think that they were putting on a show? Do
you think they really believed him?
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I hope so, because why would.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
They do that to be politically correct?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
No, I think the husband if he thought that, the
husband would be like, y'all are idiots. He's lying.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Then how did they have not one?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Okay, maybe there's details we don't know that they can't say. Sure,
do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah? Sure? But then like, don't make a podcast about it?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Well they were already all in. Yeah, if we'd already
invested that much time into it'd be like, well, let's
just put a ball on this thing. The best thing,
the best.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Way we know how that's true.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Okay, okay, back to laundry.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Thanks for getting listeners.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah too. We should have two new downloads for the
best of episode.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
But why wait?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Back to that your question that you asked me. Do
you feel Amy's saying you.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Have a podcast When people ask me what I do
for a living, I cannot bring myself to do it.
But that's because I think I'd feel different if I
were you, if that was like.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Well, I know that you're a licensed therapist, which is great.
Do you ever say and also I have a podcast
because you make a good living.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
No, but I think this is what it is. Do
you say I make a good living?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yeah, you know I make a good living both ways.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yes, yes, I think I feel more like I don't
want to self promote. It feels like it, but I
guess I'm self promoting if I'm saying that I'm a therapist.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
But that's different. I get it because that is your profession, whereas,
like you said, for me, where I'm coming from is
radio and podcasting has been my profession.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
But I'm going to practice saying like I'm a therapist
and I host a podcast.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Oh you know, one time I felt lame because I
was wearing her Feeling Things.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
March.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I was wearing the hoodie in the fants. I was
at my boyfriend's son soccer game, and one of the
other moms there was like, oh, I love that jocker set.
Where did you get it? And I was like, I
was like, that's my podcast.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
We made it.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
And so then I was like, well, shoot, should I
tell her like it's available? But I acted, I mean
the way that I talked about it, she probably thought
that we just made it for ourselves for fun, and
it's not event It's not like I, yeah, oh yeah,
Feeling Things podcast dot com. You could get yourself one.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I haven't had somebody do that. I've wondered what I
would say, like, where do you get that? Oh, here's
my website.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Well maybe just don't even just be like, oh yeah,
Feeling Things podcast dot com.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
And if they don't listen to the podcast, they don't
know that I'm the host. Yeah, they're going to go
listen to it and like, oh my gosh, that was
the host. How humble?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
You're so humble? Okay, back to the laundry. I don't
know why I just stuttered there, but let me answer it.
Question by question, Okay, Jasmine, I use tied pods that
are unsentenced, so I don't know if tied unscented falls
(12:03):
into the non toxic category. Does it?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I don't know, but that's shocking to me. Why I
thought that you use like special laundry detergament.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Well, I liked method, you know, coconut mango, Yeah, but
then I had to go unscented, and for some reason
I ended up just grabbing the tide unscented. I mean,
I've used liquid and pods. Maybe because my son runs
a lot and he's a teenage boy and he smells
a lot, And I'm like, is the other detergent totally
(12:36):
unscented and natural getting his odors out? Which some people
have those systems. I think a listener emailed us in
about the water oxidized water thing. I forget what it's called.
We can look it up. You use no detergent. It's
an expense upfront, obviously, but over time you save money
because you never have to buy detergent again. And the
water cleans your clothes. It does something like there's a
(13:01):
pump that does something special.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
It's like a different washing machine.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I don't know if it's a different washing machine or
a pump like a filter that your water goes through
that hooks up to your machine. Will look it up
and as we're talking then I'll circle back to this.
But Shannon, if you need keywords, put like oxidized water
machine that washes your clothes and no detergent, and something
may come up. But so mine is tied free and gentle.
(13:29):
I guess is what it's called specifically, and I'm a fan.
I like it. But if if you can have smells
or sense my skin cannot have it, that method mango
is legit. And then the dryer balls, how many per load?
How many can I find? Sometimes they're missing? Sometimes I
(13:52):
do three. On a larger load, I might do four,
but sometimes I just there's one in there and I'm
like one it is.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
So this is something I've been nervous to try. The
oil essential oil on the dry ball because I'm afraid
it's going to get on my clothes.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Valid concern because it does. So here is my solution
to that, and it has worked for me thus far.
So Jasmine, what you're gonna do is I put like
a drop per ball. But what I do is I
get my balls and I don't put fresh drops every load. Okay,
(14:29):
you probably should if you want the the smell to
be fresh, but it lasts to me. I put like
a drop or two on a ball, and then a
drop or two on another ball, and then I marry
the balls together. They kiss where the drops are, and
I would rub it. I rub it in. I rub
the balls like sh.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
But does it really make that much of a difference
in this is the Is the risk worth the reward?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I smell it, Okay, I smell it, and there's no
risk when you do can push the balls together when
your balls make out, So imagine that you get what
I'm saying. And then if you have got three or
four balls, you just do the same thing, or maybe
you just put the vanilla on one ball. But I
will say, if you have the white dryer balls, you
will get oil spots on them and then they start
to look a little wonky. So that's why I really
(15:15):
love my bumblebee ones because they have black on them.
And one concerned I had is the black going to
get like the dye for the black gonna get on
my white clothes if I use the bumblebees on a
solid white load so far, so good. Oh you try
to no issues.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
You are a daredevil.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah, I take one for the team, thank you. I experimented,
so you you put the oil on, just a little
drop or two, smash the balls together, rub it in.
Maybe once you put the stuff in the washing machine,
go ahead and do your balls and have them waiting
in the dryer, and that way the oil can absorb
a little bit. So that's been my solution so far.
That has worked for me. And I will say any
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oil spots that I had that showed up, I just
re washed them and they were gone. Okay, so that
wasn't an issue. I think we addressed all of her
questions with that. It was non toxic detergent again TBD
on if mine's on toxic, but it's unscented. It's free
and clear the dryballs and the liquid. And then how
many balls per load? I mean that's up to you,
but I've never used more than four balls. It says
(16:24):
tied free and gentle as a hypoallergenic laundry detergent. Okay,
Shannon found the is it called an ozone generator?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
You can clean clothes without detergent using oxidation from a
systems like ozone oh three generators which break down dirt,
or natural oxidizers like hydrogen peroxide for whites.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
But I mean you would just put hydrogen peroxide in
your laundry.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I'm not. Yeah, it's I'm not, but it says it
can help. But what I'm talking about specifically is an
oxidi oxidation system because my friend got one and she
said her husband bikes a lot. So she was like,
you know, sweaty speaking a ball. Yeah, and she was
like it works great, it works so great.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I just think I like soap.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yeah, that's great. But some people have sensitivity.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Or sensitive skin. Okay, got it. So then what do
they wash their bodies with?
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Oh, like beef tallow soap or something?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Does that? Is that? Dis infact?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I have no idea. Okay, I have to use unscented I.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Use unscented dove. I use unscented bar soap, shower Joe,
It's better for you in generally, I.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Think, Okay, so a soap, A bar of soap, my
dermatologist told me, is gonna be less drying than liquid soap.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
So okay, but what do you wash your do you
wash yourself with? You don't use a lufa, I can tell.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
No, I have lufahs, I don't always, but I'm not
anti lufa. What do you mean I don't use a lufa?
You can tell? What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
I feel like a loof is, like now a shameful
thing to use. I don't. I believe it should not
be shameful, but it is not likeas get gross and
there's mold in there. Oh, I can't believe you don't
wash your bed sheets before you put them on your bed.
I can't believe you use a loofah. It feels like similar,
you know.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Oh, so because you have felt judged in the past,
you just wanted to go ahead and pre judge me. No,
I'm not anti lufa. You do have to change them
out regularly. I think my dermachologist said probably every six
to eight weeks or something.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Oh, out of okay, And then I.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Guess it depends on where are you sticking the lufa
and something I've had in the past, which now this
is reminding me that I want to order more. Something
(19:00):
I've had in the past, which now this is reminding
me that I want to order more. Are the gloves
you can put those myths on? And then you just
exfoliate your body with them and then put the bar
of soap in between and build up some SuDS and
then you can wash those in the washing machine. Oh,
throw the gloves in because.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I was gonna say, with a bar of soap, do
you wash yourself with a bar of soap or do
you put it on some other thing and then wash
yourself without.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I just wash myself with the bar of soap right now.
But I need to order me some of my gloves.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
This is one of those things that can I can
get on my brain. Have you ever seen on TikTok
people harvesting real lufahs from the sea. I think they
come from the sea.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
It looks like sponges, I swear to little us.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
You know, a loofah is a.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yeah, I know what a loofah is. They're not not
like the kind that's at CBS. No, you're talking about
a sea sponge that looks like tan or brown.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but not a sponge. It's not a sponge.
It's a loofah. It's like, oh, you plant a loofa.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
It's a place an exfoliating grass, sea sponge, a sea
you can grow your own body loofah.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I got into lufah TikTok for a little bit, but
it's been a while.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Can you grow your own? See lufa? So?
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Oh my god? Okay, so live from the studio, Shannon
says that her sister grows her own lufahs in her
backyard and you can just where does she live?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
So you can do it just right here in your
own backyard. Doesn't have to be anywhere exotic, okay.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
And then you just rub it on your body.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
What oh so that's what she cleans her body with.
There's the lufa from her backyard. I wonder how long
they take to grow? What in the world. I'm glad
I brought this up.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
It counts. Next hobby. She's gonna be alofa harvester.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Well, so, I wonder if you need a lot of
sun and stuff, because our backyard doesn't get a lot
of It's very shaded, so it might not be the
best harvesting ground. But Amy, we could start a little
raised garden bed in your backyard and put some loofs
in there.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Lufas need a long, warm season. You can start the
seeds indoor and then move them outside. They do need
full sun and good soil.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
I wonder what the benefit of using a lufa that
you grow yourself versus this could be.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Our thing if the world ends. You know, I've been
trying to figure out, like if we were post apocalyptic
and you know, people were forming communities, Yeah, they would
want to form communities full of people that have a
special trade. And if there's no radio and podcast equipment,
I mean people might need therapy. So you could still
(21:35):
be good because you could like help communities thrive emotionally.
Think about it. What are we going to offer? Like,
can you sew? Can you build so I can you garden?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Okay, we can take up gardening, but I think the
only thing we're offering is loofahs. We might get left
in the dust.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
What people want to feel clean?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yeah, but I feel like there's other Like what could
just be.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Called part of our gardening portfolio? Yeah? Yeah, yeah yeah,
Like yeah, can we grow tomatoes?
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Can we grow lufahs?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Is your skin gonna feel so good?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
And we can be like if you let us join
your community, we'll throw in an extra free lufah with
the tomatoes.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yes, that's the thing. And therapy.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yes, Okay, we're good. We're going to survive. People are
gonna want us on their team.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah in our community, Yeah, we are welcome. Yep, Okay,
good whew. Okay, we have a voicemail from anonymous. We
don't have a name, and I feel like sometimes anonymous
on voicemail is not because they don't want people to
know it's them, They just don't say their name. If
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that's the case, that's okay. This would be our reminder
right now, be like, we want to know who you are.
So if you're leaving a voicemail, just be like, hey,
I'm Amy from Austin. How you found us? What you
do when you listen to you? Are you gardening?
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Are you harvesting lufus?
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Are you on a walk? Are you doing laundry? What
are you doing when you listen to us? So? Are
you getting your lashes done? Recommend it to your lash person. Okay,
we're gonna play the voicemail. It's a little bit longer,
so we have edited down a little. So if you
are the person that left this voicemail and you're like, hey,
wait a second, I said more than that. We're starting
(23:25):
at the part where you talk about my fear of retaliation.
So thank you. For your entire voicemail, but this is
a little trimmed down. Amy.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
I want to say this to you, sweetheart. You can't
live in fear of retaliation, because people who live in
fear of retaliation will never stand up for themselves and
they will always allow others to take advantage. One of
the things that we live in right now with this
(23:55):
world are people doing bad things and people not speaking
up at it because they're worried about what will happen
from that. And I think I'd rather be taken out
knowing that I did what was right and spoke up,
then to potentially not say anything and then something else
(24:16):
happened to somebody else that could be possibly worse. And
especially I think about if something happened and I didn't
speak up, and then that same person did something to
one of my children or one of my neighbor's children,
who I feel like they're my children too. So those
(24:36):
are the things that you want to try and keep forefronts.
It's always good to speak up, don't be afraid of retaliation.
If it's something petty, then yeah, let that go. But
if it's something really important, you always want to speak up.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Okay, kat, you knowing me as my friend and you know,
my fear of retaliation. Some of the voicemail that got
cut out, the part we didn't play. She was referencing
Sean Holmes because we watch that documentary and people feared
speaking up about some awful things that he did, which
I understand that like someone that powerful, that is legit.
I feel like on our level, if something like that
(25:13):
would happened to me, I hope that I would be
able to stand up for myself and want to stand
up so that maybe it wouldn't happen to other people.
I guess my retaliation hasn't even thought that wide of
a tragic type of event. Mine is more. You know,
if like my uber driver, there's an issue and now
he knows where I live, I'm probably just still going
to tip him and like never bring it up because
(25:34):
he knows where I live. But like, do you think
I would not like stand up for myself? No?
Speaker 1 (25:39):
I think that all.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Well, No, I'm curious, okay, because I do wonder okay,
because I mean, my fear runs deep.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I think that this is nuanced. Like I think you
can and you have and you will stand up for
yourself yourself in certain situations, but you're taking into account
the risks and the rewards. And I will say, and
this is like no shit to the listener because I
understand what she was saying. It's like, you have to
be able to stand up for yourself, to like make
change and all of that, and to like value yourself.
(26:08):
And there are people that like think, speaking of the
p ditty stuff, like if somebody has been a victim
of something, it might be better serving to them and
their mental health and everything to like not do anything.
There are plenty of people that go through stuff like
that or get hurt or taken advantage of or abused
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who it's the safer thing for them, and it is
an act of standing up for themselves to not approach
the person that has done the harm. So it's hard
to answer this question because yes, I think that you do,
and you have and you will. I think you've helped
me be like Catherine, it's not worth it. Like when
I want to get in a fight with somebody in
a parking lot, which I've done multiple times, and now
(26:52):
I'm like, Okay, you never know what somebody else is,
what's going on with them. It's not worth it to
fight over this small and justice.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Because I might follow you home and murder you.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
They could murder me there like or there one guy,
one guy in a parking lot where I got in
a little tip with him, he slammed his car door
into my car and dented it and then left. So
it didn't help me to stand up for myself in
that situation.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Wait, what did you do? I don't remember this.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
This was years ago. So I was parking in a
parking lot and I pulled into a spot and there
was a guy the car next to me. Nobody was
in it when I pulled into it, and he was
parked like right on the parking lot line. I was
in the lines of my spot. I parked well, and
I am saying that as somebody who doesn't park very well.
I did a good job. I have a picture of it.
(27:39):
For this guy parked like right on the line, so
like he was not in the spot very well. I
was on the phone and he came. I guess he
was trying to get into his car, and he starts
banging on my car and screaming like it was. It
was very weird, very weird. And he was just like
seemed like a older, middle aged white man and I'm
(28:02):
on the phone. Classic literally no, but literally classic. And
I think that also was like, this old man is
not going to boss me around.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
No offense of your older, middle aged white man listening
to us right now, you might agree, yeah, we might
have some We got an email from someone. I don't
think you're reading her email, but she was just sharing
like a nice note and she was like, I get
I listen while I get ready, and my husband's in
the bathroom with me, so he listens to so he's
another male listener. And I feel like that's what made
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me think, oh, man, her husband's probably older white yeah,
because she said she's an innest. Now yeah, so like
her kids are grown anyways.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Not your Styn, it's not yet you. So this man
starts banging on my window and I like a little
bit roll down my window and he's like if you're
effing car, like yelling at me like I've done something wrong,
and I was like what. So I got out of
my car because I was like did I I'm so confused,
(29:01):
got in my car and I looked at him and said,
do you want me to move my car? If you
asked me nicely, I'll move it, and he was like
are you He was screaming. People were watching. This actually
made me upset. People walked by and watched, and nobody
came to my rescue. So if you remember that, if
(29:22):
that was you, I'm so upset about it. So then
he's like obviously like and then so he starts he
takes his car door. He was like, I can't get
in my car, takes his car door and starts slamming
it against mine, and then I go, well, now you've
dented my car, so I'm definitely not moving my car.
I'm going to call the cops. Then he got into
his car through his passenger door.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
And crawled over to the.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Little block of shamp backed up and left.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Did you get his license? Late? No?
Speaker 1 (29:50):
But the parking lot had cameras, so I was like whatever.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I called the cops and told them this guy now,
and I told.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Them what happened. But then I had a meeting, and
I was like, I can't sit here and wait for
the cops because I have a little baby dent in
my car. I wanted to get him in trouble so bad,
the justice part of me, but I was like, I
have a meeting. The meeting is more important. I don't
really care about this dent in my car, because like
I should, but I don't because I don't care about
my car and he got away with it. He got
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away with it. But I can show you. I'm gonna
look back in my camera role and show you the
picture of my parking job. Well within the lines. Is
that not insane?
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
So like hindsight, I'm like, well, he obviously if he's
acting like that, he's not saying therefore I should not
provoke him. Therefore I should just do what he says,
because if he's that insane that he's gonna bash my
car and with his car doork, he could have a
gun and he could shoot me, you know, like he's
already not thinking clearly. But then the other part of
me is like, I'm not gonna let somebody treat me
(30:48):
like that. So that's where the nuance comes in, where like,
what's more standing up for myself saying that this isn't
worth it and like my life is valuable or proving
a point to this?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Do you think he was inebriated somehow and to drugs impaired?
Is that the word?
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I honestly never thought about that. It was like ten
in the morning, which doesn't mean anything like.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah, that would classic trust am with a if there
an alcohol.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
It was downtown, so it was like it was like
the Gulch area, so there were bars and place they
wouldn't be serving alcohol.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
So yeah, but they just have it themselves.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yeah, they wake up. I did not think about that
at all.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Well, that rolls right into our next voicemail we have,
which is about drugs and alcohol. That rolls right into
our next voicemail we have, which is about drugs and alcohol,
(31:57):
or at least I guess I brought up how I
watched some videos. Maybe I said movie. I know that
it was on YouTube. I was at a family therapy
thing and they were showing these short films or clips.
But what we were watching was on YouTube. But we
can go ahead and play the voicemail from Shannon, who
(32:18):
was curious about this.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Amy said that she watched a movie or a documentary
or something about how the brain works on drugs and alcohol,
and it was very interesting and I would love to
know what documentary or what movie she watched to learn
about that. That has always been intriguing to me and
I would love to get some more information. So maybe
in the next podcast or something, she might be able
(32:43):
to mention it, thank you.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
And have the day you need to have, Okay, Shannon,
not our Shannon, different Shannon, obviously a voice.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Shannon sent a voicemail.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
She was like, I was.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Nervous to ask you or I just wanted to feel
part of the group.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
So I called in and left a voicemail.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
So, I know that they gathered all of the clips
of what we were watching from YouTube, but I don't
know specifically what they were. And I tried to go
in into YouTube and find the exact ones, but none
of them looked familiar. So what I can say is
that there's lots of info on YouTube from I guess
you wanted to be a trusted source and professional professional
(33:25):
and they know what they're talking about. From what I
came across just quick glance, there was like so many
videos that would be helpful and resourceful and understanding how
the brain works when drugs and help call enter the system.
Where did you watch this at our family? Intensive?
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Was it a movie? And there was like a car
driving through like a mountain dirt road or something like that, and.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
There's yeah, he did do that, and then he also
had and.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
He did did he do the thing with the gun
and the guy and.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
See the thing with a gun, but he had a
water hose.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
He did he had a metaphor about a man and
having a gun to his head.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Okay, now he might have that, Okay, but it wasn't
in the clip we watched, But that it sounds like, well,
we watched lots of different clips.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
You know.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
It'd be like we'd watch a ten minute video and
then we take a break and she would fast forward
or do whatever. I just know that the clips were
from YouTube, but sometimes there's parts of movies on YouTube,
so I don't know the original situation. And I tried
to go in to see if I could find it
for you, Shandon, and I'm so sorry I can't. And
I don't know if this is helpful, but YouTube had
a lot of really cool videos, and yeah, if you
(34:30):
come across like what Cat's saying, there was like a
guy and he was in like this really cool rock
structure that was sort of supposed to look like certain
parts of the brain, and then he would have a
water hose and he would lower it through the canyon
to like demonstrate like what was happening in the brain,
it's not helpful at all.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Well, okay, I have a really good video that we
used to show in when I worked in treatment where
the clip's old.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
He's kind of he doesn't look old, but the video
looks a little you know, like what maybe two thousand, Oh,
okay at least, or are you going like eighties nineties?
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Mine was like nineties. But I'll see if I can
find the name of this video, because this video was
like lame sauce, like it was not like cool, but
it was so helpful.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Okay, that fits this vibe.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Okay, like a movie you would watch in like science
class in high school.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Yes, okay, with all these analogies. But that's the cool
part is it helps you actually understand what is going
on with addiction in the brain and why we all
react differently, Like it's like okay, yeah, my brain isn't
gonna do that. And it also separates it from the
person a little bit, like if you just were to
(35:39):
look at what could be happening inside their brain that
they literally have no control over, and then that.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Helps with like depersonalizing it.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Yeah, and making it more diase. I mean compassion is
very personal, but it just helps give clarity to where, yeah,
you can maybe have more room for compassion because with
an addict or an alcoholic, there's a lot of chaos
and it makes it's very frustrating. And yeah, there can
be space for detachment for sure, and you need to
have healthy boundaries. But for me, I found it fascinating
(36:10):
because I had never seen it quite explain in that way.
And maybe I just needed to email the therapist and
be like.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Wait, that's a great idea.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Well, but I don't have her contact, and but i'd
have to google her and then just cold email her,
or maybe I can call the place and get her,
but I don't know what they hand out, you know.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Okay, well, let me see if I can find this video.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Okay, so check the show notes. If we find it,
we will link in the show notes. We'll say like
here's the video all caps.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
And if we can't find it then then good luck.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Okay, well Healefully it'll be in the show notes for you.
That is definitely what we would prefer. We always want
to help out when we can, which begin of helping
out if you have something going on in life, you
want to email us. As you can see today, our
voicemails and emails weren't about anything super mental health related.
But we are a very diverse podcast. Like I just
(37:03):
opened up our inbox and twenty seven minutes ago we
got an email that is cancer related. And then I
know we have some fertility stuff that has come in
that's heavier that we've got coming up on future episodes.
So as you can see, stuff will be all over
the place. But this person is just emailed twenty seven
minutes ago said they just started listening to our podcast recently.
(37:26):
There are only six episodes in.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Oh wow, So I.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Wonder if that means they started with the feeling things
in April or did they go Surely they didn't go
back to four things like twenty eighteen, right, Well.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Then they wouldn't be emailing this.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
True, right, Yeah, good point. You're so smart.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
That's what I'm here for.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
That's what you're here for. So, like she's only six
episodes in, by the time she gets to this one,
she'll have learned that we're very diverse. We cover ours
like what a wide variety.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
She's gonna get to the process of somebody saying we
have we're two on organized, and she's gonna say I
love that.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Yeah, but also shout out to her being six episodes
in and already sending an email.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Yeah, slow clap, and a shout out to us because
we obviously made her feel comfortable enough to email us
six episodes.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
She hasn't gotten to the BET's a dead part. Oh yeah, okay, yeah,
but we still want to hear from all, regardless of
if you feel like it's a parasocial relationship, because it
is one and we want we want to have one.
We're just gonna all keep it, keep it healthy, keep
it safe. We want hp HPR. You can do it.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
P HPR healthy parasocial relationships, yes, hr HPR. Oh my gosh.
We're gonna make sure to set say I'm in a HPR,
I'm in a healthy parasocial relationship sick.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
And then be wearing it and people like where'd you
get that? Be Like our podcast made it just for fun,
But we hope that you'll email us. Or is the
year of the voicemails, so you can also call us
which is eight seven seven two oh seven two oh
seven seven. That number is also in the show notes.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Leave us your name if you want.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Yeah, or be anonymous if you want, and if you're
worried that your voice may sound the same. I don't
know that. We could go full blown voice changer like
on Beth's Dead.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
I bet Houston can do that.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Okay, Houston can change your voice. We're speaking for him.
If you need your voice changed, we can do that.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Don't let anything hold you back.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Or you could experiment with an accent, just like call
in and be like, hey, and you can make up
a name, do your Russian. Hey, I'm Linda and I
was calling about my husband, you know, like you did?
You would you know that that's me?
Speaker 1 (39:48):
If I was like, hey, hold on, okay, hey, I
just close my ears.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
I'm I'm Linda, and my husband has been Honestly, I
think I would not know. Call in my sister. Oh no,
it's a little scandalous.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Wait, I think I wouldn't know. You wouldn't know. Some
of it's a little fake. So you're gonna work on that.
Your Russian one's good though.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
I say hello, I say hello. I've been listening to
a podcast and my sister has a lot of issues,
and my father was so my father was in the money.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
You kind of had like a long Island accent mixed
in there, so.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
I mixed Russian and Long Island. Okay, I'll work on it. Okay,
But however you want to communicate with us, we have
options and we hope wherever you are.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
You have the day you need to have. Bye. Bye,
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