April 14, 2026 • 52 mins
Amy is out here guessing discount codes while shopping online and it's the most satisfying thing. Kat opens up about navigating pregnancy body image and why so much of what gets posted online doesn't tell the whole story. A listener named Mindy from Kansas leaves a voicemail talking about her own hormone replacement therapy journey and it is so good. Amy references a newsletter from Mike Foster about the Manosphere documentary on Netflix and the 3 questions everyone should be asking about who they allow to influence their life. Plus a perspective shift that might quietly change the way you talk about everything: stop saying something is easy or hard and start saying it's familiar or unfamiliar. Also, gardening is really good for your brain…research says so!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
All right, break it down.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
If you ever have feelings that you just won't Amy
and Cat gotcha covin locking No, brother, Ladies and folks,
do you just follow an the spirit where it's all
the phone over real stuff to the chill stuff and
the m but Swayne. Sometimes the best thing you can
do it just stop you feel things. This is feeling
(00:27):
things with Amy and Kat.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to feeling things. I'm Amy and I'm
Cat and my feeling of the day is fun. I guess,
I don't know fun for sure. For sure falls into
the fun category, but it sure feels fun when I
get it right. So when you check out, when you're
online shopping and you don't want to give your email
and your phone number to get the ten percent discount code,
(00:50):
do you play the game of trying to figure out
what their code is? Like typing in welcome, welcome, ten, welcome, fifteen,
welcome twenty, which normally you can guess the percentage off
of it would be ten, fifteen or two twenty based
on what they say in the pop up screen to
get you to get the percentage off. It'll be like
want ten percent off, want fifteen percent off, and that
will help me with the Hello ten, Hello fifteen, Hello twenty,
(01:12):
Save ten, Save fifteen, Save twenty free ship.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I've never played that game. I have other tricks, but
this is very smart. Why haven't I played this game.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
In the depending on the season spring ten, spring twenty,
summer ten summer twenty summer fifteen, fall ten, fall twenty winter.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
So have you been doing this lately? Yes?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And I got for two days in a row getting
things welcome ten worked for two different sites, and I
was like, this is fun.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
And they cause.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
If they don't want people to do that, they got
to get more creative with their code.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Some people have because you'll go and they'll email you
the code. It's like ADSF one two four or five
y dash niner copy. You have to like paste it
in there like those those are the ones they really
don't want figuring out the code.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Well, they really want your email and your phone number. Yes.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I usually will just google if I'm like, what's a
discount code for this place?
Speaker 4 (02:12):
And sometimes it'll work. Sometimes there won't be one. But
I used to have have you heard of honey?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yes, I've used honey. Okay, I did it too.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
It used to be.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Like what do you call it like it was like
a plugin that I had on my Safari.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, it lived in and it so it would it
would automatically go generate things for you.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Which is really cool.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I feel like it saved me a lot of money,
but I didn't download it out my new computer because
it felt a little bit unsafe, Like, who knows I
could have gotten a couple viruses from that in this
now my computer we use for work, so we can't
be doing that. I don't even know if that's still
a thing.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Good question, because I haven't used it in a little
bit and I don't know how it got off of mine,
but I did, maybe because I got a new computer too.
I can't or I like your yours is more fun.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
It's like a game.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
That's why my feeling is fun because it worked twice
for me, and just letting people know if you don't
want to give your email and phone number, I mean
you may have to if you can't figure it out.
But it's so fun when it works and you're like, oh,
like the disk that just pops up and if you
shop revolve a code that always tends to always work
(03:22):
for them is tulip what? Yeah, you get ten percent offers.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
So random.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, tula okay, tulip ten. That's why I'm feeling fun.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Okay, I like it. I'm feeling a lot of things. Okay,
I have a lot to talk about. Where should we start? Oh,
this is easy, We'll get this out of the way.
I feel very proud of myself.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I feel like you'll be very proud of me for
doing this, you know how, Like I like to do
things with myself and I like to just be like, oh,
I can do that myself and not hire a professional.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Yeah, so I'm learning.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
And I hired somebody to come do landscaping at my house,
just the front, but I was going to do it
myself and then got very overwhelmed and was like, I'll
probably spend one thousand dollars on plants and then kill
them all because what do I know about plants?
Speaker 4 (04:07):
So I felt like that was very.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Adult of me. Good y'all going to call somebody to
do it for me. It's feeling proud of myself. Now
I have a PSA. I feel like everybody needs to
know this. Who enjoys going to the movies and this
is my feeling attached to this is disturbed have you
heard of the movie The Drama?
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Yes? Have you heard about this movie?
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Okay, I didn't know much about.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
This movie, and you just went to see it.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
I escaped this.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
By the skin of what is it, the skin of
my teeth?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah, so you didn't see it.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
My friend asked me to go yesterday, and I was
bored out of my mind because Patrick had on the
Masters for six hours, and so I didn't really want
to go see this movie, but I wanted to get
out of the house, so I was gonna go, but
then the drive was too far. They were going in
Nashville and I was in Franklin. She texted me after
and she said, thank god you didn't go see this movie.
(04:59):
It was the weirdest movie I've ever seen, and it
got like rave reviews from a lot of people. So
the whole I'm not going to give anything away at all,
but the whole point of the movie is there's this
big secret you find out and that is like the
pipeline to the rest of the movie.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Well, I think it falls under dark comedy.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
It is a dark comedy. Yeah, it's very dark.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, very If I were you and I was going
to go see this movie, I would look up what
that secret is before I paid twenty twenty five dollars
to go see this movie.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I think what it's about, it's like not some I
get that it's dark comedy, but I don't feel like
we ever it.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Was in the news, so I feel like even before
the movie came out, it was a big news story
of oh why didn't see that? Is so? I mean,
I talked to it in case someone's wanting to see it.
I guess we shouldn't spoil the big secret, but it's well,
very positive topic.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, and I'm saying, if you're going to go see it,
spoil the secret because you might not want to watch this.
My friend was saying, like you, it was hot, it
was awkward to laugh at any of the stuff because
it's not something that's it's not funny, and the thing
that it's about is affecting so many people, even if
you're not directly affected by it, Like it's a big
(06:15):
issue in our specifically our country.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, I think that's why it was such a big
news story before the movie came out.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I cannot believe they made a movie about it, Like,
I'm disturbed.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Of the about this.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
They were saying she didn't go through with it. It didn't
actually happening.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
But do you know why.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Well no, I don't know that part.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
But okay, it's not like it's not because she had
a change of heart.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Okay, so you were disturbed by.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
That, yes, And I just wanted to let anybody know
because I would be so well, I think I don't
know that I would be able to sit through.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
All of that.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
But I movies are expensive to go see, and I
just don't want anybody to waste their money.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Okay. So there's that that felt good to get off
my chest.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
And then I love that you're like recommending for people
to not go see a movie that you haven't seen.
But some other people enjoyed it.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Some people liked it.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
I think you have to have a very specific type
of humor to be able to enjoy that. Yeah, and
you need to not have been affected by this specific thing.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Okay, Next feeling, Next feeling. So this is third feeling.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
I told you I have a lot of feelings.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
I think this feeling is like I feel seen or
I feel relief, I feel validated. And this is a
little pregnancy update. I'm out of breath talking and that
I'm blaming on pregnancy. In the first trimester of pregnancy,
a lot of times, one you're hiding, you're not telling people,
(07:42):
and so you're trying to like dress like you don't
look pregnant. And then through the first trimester, you don't
necessarily have like a baby bump, Like you might look bloated,
you might have gained weight, but there's not like you know,
when there's a baby bump, it's like cute and whatever.
I think it's a hard season to be in that
whole space. It's just body image wise, it's difficult. I
(08:06):
have been inundated on social media with all of these
and part of this is my fault. All of these
videos of like really adorable people dressing their pregnant body
through different stages, and I've internally been struggling.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Of like how are these people doing this?
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Like they look so cute or they're fifteen weeks pregnant
and they literally look smaller than I did before I
got pregnant. Like just a lot of negative thoughts coming up,
and I through this process, I tried to just you know,
use my tools, like I say, talk my way through it,
remind myself, like everybody's body is different. You're creating the life.
(08:47):
Blah blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Blah, a lot of beings. I'm thinking if I texted
you the other day because you love when you use
your tools, and you love when I use my tools,
and I text you the other day and I was
annoyed about my self tanner or something. I'm like, uh,
and I just feels so white. And then I use
my tools and replied back. I was like, and well
I am so this is fine. I am white. And
(09:10):
then you were like, good for you.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Yeah, night's when we can use our tools.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yes, it is what it is like. Yeah, I love
my and you are white, translucent, pale skin. That's me.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
But sometimes that's like it Sometimes talk like that, like
this overly body positive talk feels almost like gas lighting
it kind of. It sometimes felt like I wasn't allowing
myself to really like this sucks, like my body is
changing at a pace I have no control over.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
But it feels like you can't say that because I'm
pregnant and I should be grateful and we should be
grateful for our bodies that allow ourselves to be pregnant
and blah blah blah blah, tools, whole tools. But so
it feels like there wasn't this like in but nobody was.
I wasn't around anybody or I didn't see anybody who
was talking about that. So it's just kind of a
conversation I was having, like with my self or Patrick
(10:01):
or whatever. Patrick's response is he's very kind, but he's
just like, you're pregnant, and I'm like, I.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Know, but I don't look pregnant. I look and then I.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Feel like God just sent me a little gift because
I don't listen to this podcast.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
But have you heard of The Squeeze?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, the Latner's.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yeah, they're both named Taylor. Yeah, it's kind of cute,
and that's kind of weird. I guess that could never
happen to you because what man is named Amy?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah? You because there's no man named Katherine there or not.
But yeah, if you have a unisex name.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Like, would that and would that turn you off if
you were like dating somebody the same name as you?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
No?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Okay, anyway, I have never I can't say I've ever
listened to one of their episodes, but and their stuff
doesn't really pop up on my paget often, but a
video of her of Taylor the girl Taylor popped up.
I guess she's pregnant, and she was like, nobody talks
about this, and I was like ooh. And she talked
about how during her first time she was like she
(11:02):
was really sick, and she was like, the only thing
I could eat is carbs, So obviously that's all I'm eating,
and I can't exercise.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
I'm gaining a lot of weight.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
And all I saw around me were and I'm paraphrasing,
and she might have said something a little different. All
I saw around me were these like tiny people that
literally didn't gain any weight in their first trimester, and
they look so cute and they loved dressing their pregnant body.
And she was like, and I was having the worst time,
and I was just I mean, I think she was
talking about like how she was having breakdowns about it,
(11:30):
and how she said I hated my body, hated looking
at it, I hated feeling it, I hated whatever.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
And I was so grateful for that because.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
It almost was like seeing somebody else say that was like, well,
I can feel that too, Like this is for anybody,
whether you're pregnant or not, going through that.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
I feel like with body image stuff, we get in
this space where we feel like we have to just
be grateful for our health or our.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Pregnant body or the ability to walk or you know
what I mean, like you're girling, yeah, versus like can
we be realistic and we can be grateful? Like I
am grateful I'm pregnant. Obviously it was a hard journey.
Wouldn't trade it. And this part sucks, especially when I'm
surrounded by what it looks like and I know it's
just social media people that are not having the same
(12:17):
experience of me as me, and it feels like, well,
what am I doing wrong? Because my body looks like
this and you look adorable. But also I will say
with that, and this is to myself and other people,
I've never and I think she said something like this too.
I've never looked at a pregnant person and been like ew.
And so I'm sure people that are that would see
(12:39):
my pregnant body wouldn't be like, oh, what have you
been doing? They're probably just like, she's a pregnant person.
But we see ourselves so differently. So I feel like
I said validated because I feel like I was gaslighting
myself and it was making it worse.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
And now I can just be like, this.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Part sucks and I can't wait until I have my
belly that pops out and then I'll feel about maybe.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I hope you will. It's hard, you will.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
It's just hard when you are like you do not
have any control over what happens.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
You can do all.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
That's the other thing people are like on TikTok, if
you eat this is what I eat in a day
as a pregnant person, blah blah blah blah blah, and
I'm like, I feel like I don't eat that differently
than that, and I'm moving my bodies much as I can,
and I've been steady climbing the scale. I don't know
that because I refuse to weigh myself, but by the
feel of my pants.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
That's a bigger tool scale.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Yeah, So this is just.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
This is your first pregnancy, so this is uncharted territory
for you too. So you're experiencing something for the first time.
I would imagine when navigating something for the second time,
you would know more what to expect from your body. Right,
this is like everybody's different obviously.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yeah, and this is coming from somebody who like I
specialize in body image work, like I've done this work
professionally and for myself for years. I feel like I
have a pretty good grasp on it. But even I'm
struggling with some stuff and need to, like you know,
go back into my toolbox and need to hear that
validation from other people. So if you're not in that space,
(14:17):
then it definitely would be normal for you to struggle
with this.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
Well.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I love that you shared that because you got the
validation from Taylor.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
She's our friend Taylor, and someone listening to you right
now he'd be like, Oh, I'm so glad Kat who
is and this is her job, this is what she
does for a living, helping others through this is also
having her experience with it.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
And living in this world is tough, like body image wise,
like living in our society and our culture, in our world,
it just is tough.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
It just is. No matter how much work you put
in it. You're climbing.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
We're climbing it up battle we will be forever. Because
there's as much work as you put into all of that,
you have five times that coming from the other side
telling you that that work is wrong, So anybody struggling
with that, I am too.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
This isn't directly related to what you're saying, but it
does have to do with things being hard or new.
I saw a perspective shift being talked about and just
sort of fitting here to say, if you're experiencing anything
new for the first time and you're finding it hard
or difficult, and maybe you were thinking something's too hard
(15:37):
to do or you could never do that, a perspective
shift could be instead of easy versus hard, familiar versus unfamiliar.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
This is very unfamiliar for me.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah, yeah, well I don't know that it totally applies to,
like being pregnant, but and thinking of maybe people wanting
to try something new, because I mean, I think it's
fair to say this is hard, not only the unfamiliar,
but it's hard. But just and how us talking about
things being EASi or hard unfamiliar made me think of
this perspective shift that I saw that might be helpful
(16:11):
for anybody just going through anything. It's like a little
brain hack of how you're looking at something, because then
when you see that something's hard, you might not want
to do it. Yeah, but if it's just unfamiliar. It's like, oh, well,
I just need to get familiar with that.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Like putting together a piece of furniture. This is unfamiliar.
I've never done this before. Versa's like, this is too
hard and complicated.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, but I am glad you hired a landscape or
that does seem hard.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
I'm familiar with both unfamiliar and art. And art also,
like I said, I would have wasted a lot of
money if I tried to do it myself.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Gardening is though, or getting your hands in the soil
and like digging in the dirt is very good for
the brain. That I am also just reminded of. I
don't have the study in front of me, but I
read it last week. No, it was something that I
came across last week where I was talking something. It
was an article about Alzheimer's And I'll see if what
(17:06):
we're talking about it, Shannon can look it up. But
how using your hands and gardening and getting in the
dirt is good for the brain. Using your hands and
(17:27):
gardening and getting in the dirt is good for the brain.
It's neuroscience. I can't explain it. It's unfamiliar.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I wonder why that would be, like, why with the
dirt specifically, or is it the activity you're doing in
the dirt?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Okay, well, okay, this is so far what Shannon has
pulled up. Multiple studies indicate that digging and dirt and
gardening provides significant psychological and cognitive benefits by interacting with
specific soil microbes and increasing critical brain growth proteins. Yeah,
I don't know if that's exactly what I saw. Research
from Universe of Colorado Boulder shoutout, that's where my niece goes.
(18:03):
It shows that this microbe activates serotonin producing neurons in
the brain, functioning as a natural mood stabilizer, similar to
some antidepressant medications.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
So dirt has similar qualities as antidepressant.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
That's sort of what a University of Colorado Boulder is saying.
But my I know that mine was a Alzheimer's related article.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Well, shoot, maybe I should have done it myself.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Okay, I think we maybe now have it. We now
have it a sixteen.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Year long longitudinal I did not know that wordudin.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
That word scared me. Do you know that because of
your therapy background?
Speaker 3 (18:39):
No, but I do know that you like, we've talked
about how like we'll skip words if we don't know them.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
And I knew you want to.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Skip a word. I don't know that I've ever seen
that word in my life. Thank you for help. No longitudinal,
longitudinal it's fun to say. I feel like I would.
We're saying it.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
You learned something new every day.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
So this is a sixteen year longitudinal study of older
adults found that daily gardening was associated with a thirty
six percent lower risk of dementia. This is it. This
is it, researchers. Researchers, that's where it's hard too. Researchers
attribute this to the bundle of physical activity, sensory stimulation,
(19:28):
and mental problem solving required by the activity. So that's
what it was. It had nothing to do with a
micro So I don't know about that study from Colorado,
but take with it, take from it what you will.
This one is what I was talking about. So you
get a bundle, it's like a three, it's like a
three for three for one.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
What I would like to do actually, because I really
want to be one of those houses that has a
bunch of like pretty like not wildflowers, but wildflower esque flowers.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
In the front of it, you know, in the springtime,
and I think, all you do? You just sprinkled?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah, but I want to take like a gardening class
because that is such an unfamiliar thing. I know, don't
know anything. There's so many different types of soil or mulch,
Like how do I even know what kind of mulch
I want? Or what soil on' is supposed to put
in there? Or the seasons and when you put tulips,
I know you have to put them in the fall,
because I really wanted to plant tulips and they said
(20:23):
you can't do that, And what flowers like come back
on their own? And what do you have to do
every year?
Speaker 4 (20:29):
I would, you know what I want to be like?
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Did you know Martha Stewart's documentary, Yeah, and she was
just in her garden pruning her flowers. I want to
get to the point where it's calming to me to
go out and just like cut some leaves off the
stems of my flowers and prune my garden because I
just understand how everything works.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Shannon said her best friend could give us a gardening class.
She has a business in Nashville teaching people about wildflowers
shut up.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
There's a certain flower. They're like all different colors. What's
a flower that you.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Would plant of hydrangea?
Speaker 4 (21:03):
No, that's like a bush, right.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
But you cut them in They but flowers yeah, yea yeah,
yea yeah, but that's a rose.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Bush is a flowers like the azaleas azalias? Those I
think those are the pretty different colored ones. I want
those like around my mailbox or something.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
You can do that, do that?
Speaker 4 (21:24):
I got a call Shannon's friend.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yeah, she's the prairie stylist on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Her name is Emily, And like, did I ever think
I would get to the point in life where like
I want to learn how to garden?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
But I want to too. I've gardened. I've told you
I've had a garden before where I had vegetables and
I would go out and it was so awesome, like
cutting cut a cucumber of cilantro romaine. You want romaine? Okay,
no problem, I'm going to go out to the garden and.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
That's like so cute.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
It's just but it sounds hard, like how do you
It's just unfamiliar. Thank you reframe, Thank you reframe.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
But it is weird because like I think this is
an adult moment where what I meant by like I
never thought I would get to this point is like
if you asked me in my twenties if I wanted
a garden, I'd be like, I have better things to do.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
But you also had an adult moment of hiring someone
to do the garden.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
You could use. Yes, there are certain plants and things
where I think hiring someone is the strategic, the right
move if you can do that. But then, like the
stuff around your mailboxes, get in the dig in there,
plants the flowers, plant the seeds, let them go up.
But you don't need you can handle that.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I'll hire somebody to landscape. I want to have a garden.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Yes, two yeah, perfect, so we'll get there. Longitudinal lunch
longe lounudinal. It's feeling weird. Longitudinal. That's sorry, I think. Okay,
that's how I would say it. Yeah, I mean you
saw that word right away and you just knew.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I also have taken research classes before, so it's you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Yeah, so you have seen it, and if.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
It makes you feel better, I knew that word, but
in my research class, I do believe I got the
worst grade out of the class.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
That's so weird because you always want to be the
best grade.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Not in grad school.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
In grad school, I realized I'm out of my league
and I can only do the best I can and
I'm never going to I had no plans of ever
getting a PhD, so that research class was of no
use to me. So I don't think I and it was.
That's one of those things. And this is just how brain.
Different brains work. I could sit in a developmental psychology
(23:33):
class and be so tuned in and understand what people
were talking about the research class. I even went to
office hours multiple times. It could not make any less
sense in my brain when I was doing so. When
I was turning in an assignment, I was like this,
I could get a zero or a one hundred. I
have no idea, Like my brain just did not work there.
(23:56):
But doesn't mean I'm stupid. No, I'm not gifted in
that area.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yeah, see tools here we are. I got a newsletter
from Mike Foster. I guess at one point I signed
up for his newsletter, which is Primal Questions. What I
feel like.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
You get a lot of newsletters and you read them,
do I I feel you you have Lisa's newsletter. I
feel like there's another newsletter you've talked about before. I
don't know who it is.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Well ours, I get the feeling they Oh yeah, I
get Moses is a news it's it's it's the literal news.
It's like newspaperaving his newsletter, but with the top news
stories of the day.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
You've get you've talked about another person's and maybe it
wasn't Maybe you don't get it every maybe to.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
You, Oh, I know our friend. Where's my brain right now?
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Our front?
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Are you going to want to walk with her?
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Katie Gusta? I saw her this weekend?
Speaker 5 (24:49):
You did?
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I love her? I love her newsletters. You're right, I
do read.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Her newsletters letters.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yeah, okay, So what's the name of our newsletter again?
I mean, I know it's Feeling Things. He gave it
a name.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I think it's just the Feeling Things newsletter.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Oh no, we gave it a name or did a
tagline or something?
Speaker 4 (25:09):
No? Nothing, have the day you need to have m okay, well.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Just kidding. So Mike's is called the Primal Question Newsletter,
and he caught my attention. I don't know that. I
always always read his but he caught my attention because
he was talking about the Manisphere and I have yet
to watch that Netflix documentary Inside the Manisphere, and I
want to, but he wrote all about it and then
(25:33):
I was like, Okay, I definitely need to carve out
time to watch this. So if you haven't seen it,
the Manisphere is basically a corner of the Internet where
male influencers create content about what it means to be,
quote a real man. On the surface, it looks like
guys talking about fitness making money. But the further you
go in, the darker it gets. Which I think you've
(25:56):
started the documentary but you haven't finished it.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
Well, you know, my thing is to watch thirty minutes
of everything.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I think.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
I didn't finish it because I was like, this is
making me angry, but it is.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
It's fascinating.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I mean it's gross and it's really sad because they
prey upon like gen Z jen Awf like young boys
to try to like brainwash them, and it's they're bad people,
like they're not like living good high lives, and a
lot of it is a facade, like they'll act one
way on the internet and then different things are happening
(26:29):
behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Well, Mike's big takeaway wasn't just about how toxic the
content is. It was about why young men are drawn
to it in the first place, and his point was
that these are valuable young men without solid male role models,
who are just looking for a yes to the question
am I wanted? Am I good enough? Which those are
(26:52):
a couple of the primal questions, and these influencers are
answering that question in the most unhealthy ways possible. He
also a really important point about being discerning about who
you allow to influence your life, and he gave us
three questions that we can ask ourselves when you are
(27:12):
trying to figure out who's getting your time, like what
are you watching? What are you following? First question, ask
yourself is this person self aware? Second? Who are they
actually serving? And third how is their message hitting your
own insecurities? Now I feel like as an adult, I
(27:33):
can maybe answer those, but I think about young kids.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
They're going to be able to answer that. But he
did end with this, true masculinity is measuring strength by
who you lift up, not by who you can push around. Yeah,
I and I thought that was really powerful because the
manosphere they seem to be wanting to.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Push around, and it's a lot about like them gaining
notoriety and following where it's not actually like living there
what they're preaching. I will say, I love these three questions.
Is this person self aware is such a hard question
to answer, sometimes specifically even for yourself and my self
aware most of the if you hear somebody who is
(28:16):
like one hundred percent confident that they're self aware all
the time, they're not.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Like, if you're self aware, it means that there are things.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
That you cannot know about yourself and that you just
cannot know and that you will have you have blind spots.
So if anybody's trying to figure that out with other people,
or if you hear somebody that constantly is talking about
how self aware they are, they're probably not.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
I am self aware, I think to your point now,
like if I really feel like I'm self aware with
my hormones, I really do. What do you mean, like
like now when I'm not acting like when I'm acting
a little sib Yeah, I think I have that self awareness.
And I'm not saying it's one hundred percent of the time,
(29:00):
but I will have an internal dialogue happening of like
why am I am I sounding my sib right now?
Like ooh that was a little harsh, or like am
I about to start my period? Or I think And
then sometimes I'll take it outside my brain and say
I think I'm about to start my period, and I'll disclose,
so it sort of helpfully lightens however I'm acting because
(29:22):
I know I'm not coming across exactly how I want to,
but I have that awareness and do you think I do?
Speaker 3 (29:32):
I think even asking that question brings about self awareness.
Like the fact that you can say, like I think this,
I want to check in, like do you see that
means that there's some self awareness there, Like it is.
The guys in this show, from what the little that
I saw, they're not looking for feedback from anybody, and
if you give them feedback that does not align with
(29:53):
what they want to hear, you're gonna get kicked out
of their life. And there's no self awareness in that.
If we're self aware, we need to be open to
feedback and open to like the things that we do wrong,
which I feel like you try to do and I
tried to do.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
It's still hard.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Nobody likes to hear I think it depends. Feedback can
be difficult, and I also like feedback.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
You do. I think you like feedback more than most people.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I was working a red carpet thing with a team
that I had never worked with before, and I didn't
know if I would ever get to work with them before.
I was filling in for somebody, and of course I
wanted to do a good job. Yeah, and the producers
are there with me and we have different you know,
celebrities coming up and we're doing interviews. In the middle
(30:40):
of it, I was like, the head producer came up
and gave me I wish I could remember exactly what
it was, but she sort of gave me an out
with each person that would be really helpful for how
they were editing the videos. And I was like, oh,
that's genius. I love that. And I said that's so great,
Like please tell me more, Like I want to know
more because that's going to be a game changer for
I close out each little interview and I want feedback.
(31:04):
And a couple hours go by and we're walking out
and the other producers is we were leaving for the evening.
They were just walking me out. They weren't done for
the night, but I was so they were nice enough
to walk me out and they were like, and hey,
thanks for being open to feedback. We're not used to
hearing like hearing that, yeah, and that's what we're called
(31:24):
as like the interviewer or in my job, what I do.
I don't call myself talent. That's what they call us.
They're the producers, were the talent, and they're like, we're
not used to hearing that from talent a lot. And
I was like, Oh, that didn't occur to me. I
want to know if I can do something better, because
why wouldn't I want to know it gave me a
better way to do something, and then it makes their
job easier and then everybody's better all around.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
But you also have to be open to feedback. You
have to have a certain amount of like ego strength.
A lot of people don't have that, and if they
get feedback, it kind of like hits on that I'm
not good enough versus your like, I am good at
my job. I also know that this is a new
thing for me and feedback is great. So I think
(32:08):
you have that confidence that allows you to take feedback. Yeah,
but confidence doesn't mean I know exactly what I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Okay, okay, because my self awareness right now telling me
that I don't know that I'm necessarily the most confident
person at all. However, front of the crowd, I do think, okay, okay,
maybe I feel a little great on stage with a microphone,
but I do that's when my cup feels full. Yeah,
I think I get excited by that. I'm not like, oh,
(32:38):
I'm the best at this at all whatsoever, but I
enjoy it and so therefore it makes it like a
good experience for me. I do think the delivery of
feedback is important because the way the head producer came
over and told me, she was so supportive and like
encouraged me and then gave it to me, and it
overall is working with a good team. I do think
(32:59):
that something if people are delivering criticism in a way
that's that can jolt me because I'm sensitive to oh shoot,
and now I'm not doing a good job. So then
it could go the opposite and then my performance goes downhill.
But she did it in a way that still was
constructive and lifted me up to where it only elevated
(33:21):
me more to where I went upwards. But I am
the type of performer where if I suddenly feel like
I'm in trouble with something or I've done something terribly wrong,
like it could go downhill fast because my confidence goes.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Like second guess yourself on everything, versus that person said
it in a helpful, kind way. So the other person
that's helping me trying to be better versus putting me down.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
So I think it's just a good reminder in our
delivery of feedback, whether it's at work or wherever we are,
just in how we approach it, making sure we're doing
it in which we've gotten constructive feedback from our listeners,
and then we've gotten some time construct someone just criticizing us,
and it hits different. I think we're like, oh cool,
that's a thoughtful take. I hadn't thought of it that way,
(34:08):
versus hey hater.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yeah, when it's really bad, it's like, well, we're not
even gonna take like I'm not taking that personally. But
it's like when it's in the middle where it's like
maybe if it's from somebody we respect, or is where
we know it's.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Different than from a stranger. I don't know. I don't know.
I was having this thought as you were talking.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Though, you know, there's always we think about, like, oh,
they should teach us how to do taxes in high
school and all this stuff, like there should be like
and maybe they do this.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
In some classes.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
I know I took like a communication class, but I
don't feel like we did this where you practice giving
and receiving feedback and like process what it's like, because
I feel like a lot of people don't mean to
be bad at giving feedback or hurtful, but they don't
know how to do it, like that's a skill in itself.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
I'm sure I've delivered it not well again, depending on
my mood or my hormones, what I'm going on, you know,
like you may not it may not come out the
way that you wanted.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
And they're like yeah, And sometimes I feel I never
want to hurt like not not it within like clients, well,
I don't want to hurt their feelings either, but like
within friendships or work relationships, I never want to hurt
somebody's feelings. So I think sometimes I can be too
(35:29):
soft with feedback and then I don't do my due
diligence versus like I wish I was taught how to
give constructive good I feel like I'm getting better at it,
but I wouldn't say I'm good at it, Like I
want to be able to give feedback to people and
also do it in that kind of way where I'm
not like tiptoeing around them, you know what I mean. Yeah,
I didn't know this existed, and so that's also why
(35:50):
I was like.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Jarred to wells million. It's millions of followers.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
And it's not my corner of the Internet. So I
was like, what in the world? And it made me
also think what else is out there that I have
no idea about?
Speaker 2 (36:02):
That?
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Is this messed up a lot?
Speaker 2 (36:04):
I think there's a lot. It's so fractured now, so
thankfully instead of like I feel like back in the day,
if there wasn't, Well, first of all, these people may
not even have a corner of the Internet, so then
there's that part they may not exist, or the manisphere
obviously wouldn't. But because it's so fractured and there's so
many other things, Luckily, if it ever gained traction, it
(36:27):
doesn't have as many followers as it might because people
have so many different things to focus on. Yeah, but
they are honing in on the young men. So if
you're a mom of a young boy, like, just make
sure he's not consuming the manosphere content. I guess unless
you're into that.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
I know, if you have a mom of a young boy,
watch it first. I haven't finished it, so I can't
shouldn't really say this. It might be something good for
a teenage boy to watch and be like, this isn't
what we want to do, because look at who these
guys really are.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Oh yeah, like they can watch the Netflix stuff. I'm saying, like,
make sure on their YouTube or they consuming because the
more they watch the video is the more normal it's
gonna feel and seem. And then their minds are so multiple,
like they start to develop those thoughts early and then
it can be very difficult to break and how they
view women. And I don't know, I still need to
(37:16):
watch the Netflix. I'm fully admitting I have not watched
it yet.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Would you go back and live two thousands with that
era of technology or would you like be like, well,
we'll take something in the middle twenty ten. Would you
(37:41):
go back and live two thousands with that era of
technology or would you like be like, well, I'll take
something in the middle twenty.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Ten ooh, twenty ten. It's pretty nice because we had
a Twitter it'd be one hundred and fifty characters or less,
and was Instagram around it. Not yet, I don't think.
Maybe it was ten. It was early stages. Twenty eleven
twenty twelve was when I first formed an account, and
I wasn't right away, but we were pretty on top
of it. I did enjoy Twitter a lot. I don't
(38:10):
ever get on there anymore now that it's X like,
I don't. It just seems dark over there.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
But it was good times, yeah, and you would just
like tweet like going to the grocery store, Yeah, I
get some eggs.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Right, or something funny. But you had to make it.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
It was to the point you're like, I wouldn't say that, nod, okay,
So I didn't really tweet if you didn't have Twitter.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
It wasn't like you might say something like that. But
it was more so, gosh, I wonder if we should
pull up some of my old tweets. Okay, if I
was like, hey, guys, going to the grocery store getting
some bread.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
I feel like people tweeted what they were doing, but
you only had like what one forty characters one hundred
and fifteen, one hundred and fifty, which is like not
a lot.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
So I joined Twitter in February of two thousand and nine. Oh.
One of my big posts was from twenty seventeen, and
it said, I said let's do this, and I put
an American flag and it's been and I bringing the kids.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
Home from Haiti. Well that's wholesome.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
So that seems like an instagram ish type post.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
You could put pictures on Twitter back then. That's interest.
Oh that was twenty sixteen. You said, when was that?
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Okay? So, and that was twenty seventeen. But in twenty sixteen,
I did say we're parents all caps. We got the
call Haiti here we come, leaving tomorrow for our two
week bonding trip. So that's right after we got matched
with the kids. So clearly I tweeted about the kids
a lot. More kids. Let me try to find you
something from the early day, give.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
Me something funny.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
You said, I know, I did, I know, I did
more kids. Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh, more kids.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
And then when you had Instagram and Twitter, how did
you decide like what to put on?
Speaker 2 (39:50):
What I mean, you did both. I think we even
had them connected to where it would like post both Oh,
here we are on family feud.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
How do I go?
Speaker 2 (39:58):
I need to go back to like the very beginning,
like Radio Amy, Twitter. Nobody cares about this. Why am
I even looking it up two thousand and nine. I
joined February two thousand and nine, so why is it not?
Speaker 3 (40:11):
You might have to just go back really far. This
would be a good segment. This would be a good
segment for us to do next week. We'll find some
of your most embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Tweets, now my funny ones, your funniest tweets.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
There's a thing that people do now on like batcherette
trips and stuff where they go My friend just texted
me about this. She was like, dang, I wish you
were coming on my bacherette trip because I just went
back to like two thousand and eight at our Facebook posts.
And the game is you put like somebody goes and
looks up Facebook posts from all these people from whatever,
and then you put them up on like a screen
(40:42):
and you have to guess like who it.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
Was that said it?
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Like that's funny, and also that would be more deifying
because what was I saying?
Speaker 4 (40:50):
Yeahto knows?
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Because I have eighteen thousand posts. You are on Twitter.
I was going tweeting all the time. I did post this,
what do the Greek use to cut their pizzas?
Speaker 4 (41:03):
What did the Greek?
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Huh? What did the Greek used to cut their pizzas?
Little caesars?
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Nothing's changed? I feel like that's something you would say now. Yeah,
so no grocery store tweets?
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Yeah, so far I have. I mean I but.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
Also you are a public figure, so you're not telling
people where you're going.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Well, I wouldn't say which grocery store. You think If
I say I'm going to the store to get some eggs,
that's getting away where people.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Might be running to ever grocery store around town. Anyway, Sorry,
lem o, how did we get there?
Speaker 4 (41:41):
I don't know. Oh what part of technology would you
want to be in?
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Okay, Yeah, that's an interesting question. I should have stuck
with that.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
You I think I would want to be I want
the Internet because I.
Speaker 4 (41:55):
Like Google.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Yeah. I like having a cell phone because when I
had a pager and I.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Had a to the payphone and that was rough, but
you didn't know it was rough because that probably was like,
at least I have a pager back then. It's all
relative though, Like when I was little and I my
mom dropped me on for the movie. She gave me
a quarter, and after the movie I called her from
the payphone. Then I had to wait and have her
come pick me up. That seems archaic now, but back
then it was just very normal. So I wish I
(42:20):
could go back and never know about what we've had,
because then that would be I'm like, oh, we're so
with it. We have payphones, that's cool, you know what
I mean. I think I would want to be like two,
Like I remember when I was learning about the Internet
in like fifth grade, Like I want to go back
to that, and like with you did a research paper
in school, you went to the library and you checked
(42:44):
books out.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
You didn't use chat GPT.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
We definitely didn't use that, but we didn't like have
like a database on a computer, Like now the library
is on the computer.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
You can search those things anywhere.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
And like, I don't know, I think I would I
miss more technology, more problems, is what they said.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
That's what your motto, Any tech more props. Yeah, Well,
we were talking about hormones of my self awareness with that,
so I do want to bring up a voicemail that
we got about hormone replacement therapy. This is from Mindy
in Kansas, and she's sharing her own personal positive experience
(43:28):
with it because I've just started my hormone journey, or
my latest hormone journey where I'm really dialing in and
I get my second iron infusion this week, and I
will say I had no idea how the iron infusion
last week was going to knock me down. I was
so fatigued, So heads up. I mean, they do kind
(43:50):
of warn you of that, but then you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
they even say potential flu like symptoms. I did not
have those, but I did have fatigue. I was very, very,
very tired. And so I have my appointment in a
couple of days, so I'm gearing up for the tiredness.
But now it's not as unfamiliar. I know what to
expect and I just have to deal with it. Like
(44:11):
it's not gonna be fun, but I'm gonna deal with it,
and I'm gonna know that hopefully two weeks on the
other side of that, because that's when I told you
to start to really start judging me. Is two weeks
after my last iron infusion. So two weeks from this week,
you can see if I'm different, and you can be honest.
I want the feedback, Okay, I do, and I think
(44:32):
you can take it. But really, if I don't change,
I'm gonna be heartbroken because I felt like I'm changing,
but the iron has set me back.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
Well again, I think that you're getting the symptoms that
are supposed to come with that.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
M So that is that I love my Yam Pellett.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
Because after the Yam pellet, you were on cloud nine.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
I was feeling good, which that's Mindy speaks to her
testosterone experience and how it is a game changer for her.
So we'll go ahead and play Mindy's voicemail. Here it
is bigurel.
Speaker 5 (45:00):
It's many from Kansus. I just thought I would holler
love your podcast. Armpits so funny. I work in an
office and towards the end of the day, I will
squat down at my desk where nobody can see me
and put on deodorant. I have a dance studio and
you never know what you're gonna see there. So my
girls are always showing everything and putting on deyodurant, and
(45:20):
I would rather that than smell them or lose them
going to the bathroom. Also, I had a boyfriend once
and he was the kindest about the breakup situation. I
think he was missing an ex. Obviously this is not
the case for you, Amy, but he was so kind.
He was like, I just want you to know it's
this has nothing to do with you. This is everything
(45:42):
to do with me. I don't know why I feel
this way, Like you're wonderful. I mean, gave me all
the reasons. Like still at the end of the day, right,
it sucks, and I still respect him for it. I
see him a couple of times a year. We live
decently close, have kids kind of the same age, and
both are very happily married with a family. And anyways,
(46:03):
just yes, so nice to know that people can speak
her on ups and not complete assholes. And then the
other thing, I had just maybe turned forty, and I
was like, why do I feel eighty five? Like nobody
can tell me I don't have energy? I feel like
this because I'm forty, Like I'm not listening. I'm sorry,
(46:23):
And so anyways, I ended up having to go several
different places, and hormone replacement therapy is where I went,
and I'm also on testosterone and it has been so
life changing. She gave me the option of injection once
a week by myself, like a bugle in my cheek.
(46:44):
It absorbs, and I went with the injection. I thought,
if I don't like it, it's a waste of one
hundred and fifty dollars and I'll choose something else whatever.
But really it is not a big deal at all.
And I inject myself once a week. It is pretty fulous. Swear.
I was sitting there and I have never in my life.
(47:06):
Then the girl that's like, oh, we should go to
bed now, I am really in the mood, and I
swear to you, I was sitting there and I was like,
oh my gosh, I could take my husband to bed
right now. And it's not that I'm crazy feifty for
any stretch of imagination, but it is so nice to
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have the energy to you know, be in the mood,
to just feel like I feel like I should have
felt probably for the last twenty and so anyways, I'm guessing, yeah,
I was also at like a ten. With hormone replacement therapy,
you do get a little bit it is a little
bit higher of a range and she is totally fine
(47:51):
with the way that is because I am happy with
the way I am functioning. I'm able to work out,
able to you know, put in fourteen hour days and
just I mean still at the end of the day,
I'm tired, but not like I was. I don't even
know how I was functioning. So anyways, hope you girls.
Oh and Cat, first of all, I'm so sorry, congratulations.
I'm so happy for you. I just love listening to
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all of the updates for sure. Don't feel like you're
bogging anybody down by them.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
Have the day you need to have by you gave
a pregnancy update, so yeah, earlier. So I'm sure Mindy's
happy for that. And that was a very cute way
to end it. And you know, she talked about her
testosterone being a little bit higher than where she would
want it, but that's fine because she's feeling good. Yeah,
you have to just pay attention to your own body
and how you're feeling. I will say a side effect
I think I'm having for my testof stone right now
(48:39):
as my chest is sort of breaking out. I have
to go back for blood work in a couple of weeks,
so i'll know more of where my levels are. But
apparently online it said this will subside. It's something that
just started to pop up. And you know, I took
care of my chest rash when I got rid of
fabric softeners, and uh so try your sheets. Well I'm
(49:00):
calling it a rash. No, they're bumps like you pop
them like pop, No, but like cyst like you can't
pop them. But they're big bumps and they and that's
what I was getting from my scented soaps and my
dryer sheets. So my chest is sensitive. But I think
what's happening to it now because I had cleared it up.
It's got to be the testosterone and I just have
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to power through. My body is unfamiliar and so.
Speaker 4 (49:26):
It's gonna normalize.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Yeah that's the word. Did she learned that in your
research class? Research normalized?
Speaker 3 (49:34):
I think that's very normal longitudinal. I liked this voiceman
because I feel like she covered so much ground.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
She did, which I mainly wanted to share it because
of the hormone stuff, but I didn't. I forgot how
long it took her to get there, So I should
have set it up differently of like, oh, yeah, she's
going to touch on how I don't like when I
see people. I'm perplexed by people putting on their Deodora
on video because that just freaks me out. I would
never And then the breakup, I guess she's referring to.
(50:00):
My breakup was really healthy and well.
Speaker 4 (50:03):
We talked about how too, I had that one boyfriend
that was very nice. Oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
I also have to say I love how she said
I wanted to take my husband to bed. It felt
like such like a I don't know, like an old,
olden day.
Speaker 4 (50:17):
I don't like. No old fashion.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
Is that one they used to say, like I want
to take you to bed? And like, why don't we
say that more?
Speaker 2 (50:24):
Now? She said it because we got to be on
more testosterone.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
I guess now I feel like it's more like raunchy
and like that's just like oh okay.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
Sweet sweet sweet, Yes, Mindy from Kansas who is not
eighty five but in her forties ish when you're around them,
around it there because you know age, location, name, If
you're willing to share with us, we're building data on you.
Speaker 4 (50:54):
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
We just want to know.
Speaker 4 (50:56):
It's just fun.
Speaker 3 (50:56):
Wait, did you know you're not going to care about
this but now I'm gonna share it.
Speaker 4 (51:01):
Do you remember when Pokemon Go was a thing?
Speaker 2 (51:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (51:03):
Did you ever doo it?
Speaker 2 (51:04):
No?
Speaker 4 (51:05):
Did your kids?
Speaker 5 (51:06):
No?
Speaker 4 (51:07):
Right, I didn't either. But turns out they actually are
using all of that.
Speaker 3 (51:13):
Data for AI, the Pokemon Go data, like all like
the geographical stuff.
Speaker 4 (51:19):
I don't really understand it.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
But there's like a debate of like, was it ever
really for Pokemon Go or is it a ploy to
get people to then.
Speaker 4 (51:26):
Get all this data for AI?
Speaker 2 (51:28):
Maybe?
Speaker 4 (51:30):
Crazy?
Speaker 2 (51:31):
Maybe?
Speaker 3 (51:31):
So you gotta be careful what games you're playing play
online that was not even online. That's like in the
world you Pokemon Go. I'm pretty sure people would like
you have to travel around to play.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
Yeah. I never was into it, so I vaguely remember, Yeah,
people going.
Speaker 4 (51:48):
It really surprises me. You never played that?
Speaker 2 (51:50):
What I'm okay? I was like, do you even know me? Okay, okay, okay,
all right. We love hearing from y'all. Make sure you
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to have. Bye bye,
Good.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
All right, break it down.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
If you ever have feelings that you just won't Amy
and Cat gotcha covin locking No, brother, Ladies and folks,
do you just follow an the spirit where it's all
the phone over real stuff to the chill stuff and
the m but Swayne. Sometimes the best thing you can
do it just stop you feel things. This is feeling
(00:27):
things with Amy and Kat.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to feeling things. I'm Amy and I'm
Cat and my feeling of the day is fun. I guess,
I don't know fun for sure. For sure falls into
the fun category, but it sure feels fun when I
get it right. So when you check out, when you're
online shopping and you don't want to give your email
and your phone number to get the ten percent discount code,
(00:50):
do you play the game of trying to figure out
what their code is? Like typing in welcome, welcome, ten, welcome, fifteen,
welcome twenty, which normally you can guess the percentage off
of it would be ten, fifteen or two twenty based
on what they say in the pop up screen to
get you to get the percentage off. It'll be like
want ten percent off, want fifteen percent off, and that
will help me with the Hello ten, Hello fifteen, Hello twenty,
(01:12):
Save ten, Save fifteen, Save twenty free ship.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I've never played that game. I have other tricks, but
this is very smart. Why haven't I played this game.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
In the depending on the season spring ten, spring twenty,
summer ten summer twenty summer fifteen, fall ten, fall twenty winter.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
So have you been doing this lately? Yes?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And I got for two days in a row getting
things welcome ten worked for two different sites, and I
was like, this is fun.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
And they cause.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
If they don't want people to do that, they got
to get more creative with their code.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Some people have because you'll go and they'll email you
the code. It's like ADSF one two four or five
y dash niner copy. You have to like paste it
in there like those those are the ones they really
don't want figuring out the code.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Well, they really want your email and your phone number. Yes.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I usually will just google if I'm like, what's a
discount code for this place?
Speaker 4 (02:12):
And sometimes it'll work. Sometimes there won't be one. But
I used to have have you heard of honey?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yes, I've used honey. Okay, I did it too.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
It used to be.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Like what do you call it like it was like
a plugin that I had on my Safari.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, it lived in and it so it would it
would automatically go generate things for you.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Which is really cool.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I feel like it saved me a lot of money,
but I didn't download it out my new computer because
it felt a little bit unsafe, Like, who knows I
could have gotten a couple viruses from that in this
now my computer we use for work, so we can't
be doing that. I don't even know if that's still
a thing.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Good question, because I haven't used it in a little
bit and I don't know how it got off of mine,
but I did, maybe because I got a new computer too.
I can't or I like your yours is more fun.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
It's like a game.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
That's why my feeling is fun because it worked twice
for me, and just letting people know if you don't
want to give your email and phone number, I mean
you may have to if you can't figure it out.
But it's so fun when it works and you're like, oh,
like the disk that just pops up and if you
shop revolve a code that always tends to always work
(03:22):
for them is tulip what? Yeah, you get ten percent offers.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
So random.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, tula okay, tulip ten. That's why I'm feeling fun.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Okay, I like it. I'm feeling a lot of things. Okay,
I have a lot to talk about. Where should we start? Oh,
this is easy, We'll get this out of the way.
I feel very proud of myself.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I feel like you'll be very proud of me for
doing this, you know how, Like I like to do
things with myself and I like to just be like, oh,
I can do that myself and not hire a professional.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Yeah, so I'm learning.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
And I hired somebody to come do landscaping at my house,
just the front, but I was going to do it
myself and then got very overwhelmed and was like, I'll
probably spend one thousand dollars on plants and then kill
them all because what do I know about plants?
Speaker 4 (04:07):
So I felt like that was very.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Adult of me. Good y'all going to call somebody to
do it for me. It's feeling proud of myself. Now
I have a PSA. I feel like everybody needs to
know this. Who enjoys going to the movies and this
is my feeling attached to this is disturbed have you
heard of the movie The Drama?
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Yes? Have you heard about this movie?
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Okay, I didn't know much about.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
This movie, and you just went to see it.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
I escaped this.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
By the skin of what is it, the skin of
my teeth?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah, so you didn't see it.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
My friend asked me to go yesterday, and I was
bored out of my mind because Patrick had on the
Masters for six hours, and so I didn't really want
to go see this movie, but I wanted to get
out of the house, so I was gonna go, but
then the drive was too far. They were going in
Nashville and I was in Franklin. She texted me after
and she said, thank god you didn't go see this movie.
(04:59):
It was the weirdest movie I've ever seen, and it
got like rave reviews from a lot of people. So
the whole I'm not going to give anything away at all,
but the whole point of the movie is there's this
big secret you find out and that is like the
pipeline to the rest of the movie.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Well, I think it falls under dark comedy.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
It is a dark comedy. Yeah, it's very dark.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, very If I were you and I was going
to go see this movie, I would look up what
that secret is before I paid twenty twenty five dollars
to go see this movie.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I think what it's about, it's like not some I
get that it's dark comedy, but I don't feel like
we ever it.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Was in the news, so I feel like even before
the movie came out, it was a big news story
of oh why didn't see that? Is so? I mean,
I talked to it in case someone's wanting to see it.
I guess we shouldn't spoil the big secret, but it's well,
very positive topic.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, and I'm saying, if you're going to go see it,
spoil the secret because you might not want to watch this.
My friend was saying, like you, it was hot, it
was awkward to laugh at any of the stuff because
it's not something that's it's not funny, and the thing
that it's about is affecting so many people, even if
you're not directly affected by it, Like it's a big
(06:15):
issue in our specifically our country.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, I think that's why it was such a big
news story before the movie came out.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I cannot believe they made a movie about it, Like,
I'm disturbed.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Of the about this.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
They were saying she didn't go through with it. It didn't
actually happening.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
But do you know why.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Well no, I don't know that part.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
But okay, it's not like it's not because she had
a change of heart.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Okay, so you were disturbed by.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
That, yes, And I just wanted to let anybody know
because I would be so well, I think I don't
know that I would be able to sit through.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
All of that.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
But I movies are expensive to go see, and I
just don't want anybody to waste their money.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Okay. So there's that that felt good to get off
my chest.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
And then I love that you're like recommending for people
to not go see a movie that you haven't seen.
But some other people enjoyed it.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Some people liked it.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
I think you have to have a very specific type
of humor to be able to enjoy that. Yeah, and
you need to not have been affected by this specific thing.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Okay, Next feeling, Next feeling. So this is third feeling.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
I told you I have a lot of feelings.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
I think this feeling is like I feel seen or
I feel relief, I feel validated. And this is a
little pregnancy update. I'm out of breath talking and that
I'm blaming on pregnancy. In the first trimester of pregnancy,
a lot of times, one you're hiding, you're not telling people,
(07:42):
and so you're trying to like dress like you don't
look pregnant. And then through the first trimester, you don't
necessarily have like a baby bump, Like you might look bloated,
you might have gained weight, but there's not like you know,
when there's a baby bump, it's like cute and whatever.
I think it's a hard season to be in that
whole space. It's just body image wise, it's difficult. I
(08:06):
have been inundated on social media with all of these
and part of this is my fault. All of these
videos of like really adorable people dressing their pregnant body
through different stages, and I've internally been struggling.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Of like how are these people doing this?
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Like they look so cute or they're fifteen weeks pregnant
and they literally look smaller than I did before I
got pregnant. Like just a lot of negative thoughts coming up,
and I through this process, I tried to just you know,
use my tools, like I say, talk my way through it,
remind myself, like everybody's body is different. You're creating the life.
(08:47):
Blah blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Blah, a lot of beings. I'm thinking if I texted
you the other day because you love when you use
your tools, and you love when I use my tools,
and I text you the other day and I was
annoyed about my self tanner or something. I'm like, uh,
and I just feels so white. And then I use
my tools and replied back. I was like, and well
I am so this is fine. I am white. And
(09:10):
then you were like, good for you.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Yeah, night's when we can use our tools.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yes, it is what it is like. Yeah, I love
my and you are white, translucent, pale skin. That's me.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
But sometimes that's like it Sometimes talk like that, like
this overly body positive talk feels almost like gas lighting
it kind of. It sometimes felt like I wasn't allowing
myself to really like this sucks, like my body is
changing at a pace I have no control over.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
But it feels like you can't say that because I'm
pregnant and I should be grateful and we should be
grateful for our bodies that allow ourselves to be pregnant
and blah blah blah blah, tools, whole tools. But so
it feels like there wasn't this like in but nobody was.
I wasn't around anybody or I didn't see anybody who
was talking about that. So it's just kind of a
conversation I was having, like with my self or Patrick
(10:01):
or whatever. Patrick's response is he's very kind, but he's
just like, you're pregnant, and I'm like, I.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Know, but I don't look pregnant. I look and then I.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Feel like God just sent me a little gift because
I don't listen to this podcast.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
But have you heard of The Squeeze?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, the Latner's.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yeah, they're both named Taylor. Yeah, it's kind of cute,
and that's kind of weird. I guess that could never
happen to you because what man is named Amy?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah? You because there's no man named Katherine there or not.
But yeah, if you have a unisex name.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Like, would that and would that turn you off if
you were like dating somebody the same name as you?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
No?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Okay, anyway, I have never I can't say I've ever
listened to one of their episodes, but and their stuff
doesn't really pop up on my paget often, but a
video of her of Taylor the girl Taylor popped up.
I guess she's pregnant, and she was like, nobody talks
about this, and I was like ooh. And she talked
about how during her first time she was like she
(11:02):
was really sick, and she was like, the only thing
I could eat is carbs, So obviously that's all I'm eating,
and I can't exercise.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
I'm gaining a lot of weight.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
And all I saw around me were and I'm paraphrasing,
and she might have said something a little different. All
I saw around me were these like tiny people that
literally didn't gain any weight in their first trimester, and
they look so cute and they loved dressing their pregnant body.
And she was like, and I was having the worst time,
and I was just I mean, I think she was
talking about like how she was having breakdowns about it,
(11:30):
and how she said I hated my body, hated looking
at it, I hated feeling it, I hated whatever.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
And I was so grateful for that because.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
It almost was like seeing somebody else say that was like, well,
I can feel that too, Like this is for anybody,
whether you're pregnant or not, going through that.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
I feel like with body image stuff, we get in
this space where we feel like we have to just
be grateful for our health or our.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Pregnant body or the ability to walk or you know
what I mean, like you're girling, yeah, versus like can
we be realistic and we can be grateful? Like I
am grateful I'm pregnant. Obviously it was a hard journey.
Wouldn't trade it. And this part sucks, especially when I'm
surrounded by what it looks like and I know it's
just social media people that are not having the same
(12:17):
experience of me as me, and it feels like, well,
what am I doing wrong? Because my body looks like
this and you look adorable. But also I will say
with that, and this is to myself and other people,
I've never and I think she said something like this too.
I've never looked at a pregnant person and been like ew.
And so I'm sure people that are that would see
(12:39):
my pregnant body wouldn't be like, oh, what have you
been doing? They're probably just like, she's a pregnant person.
But we see ourselves so differently. So I feel like
I said validated because I feel like I was gaslighting
myself and it was making it worse.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
And now I can just be like, this.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Part sucks and I can't wait until I have my
belly that pops out and then I'll feel about maybe.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I hope you will. It's hard, you will.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
It's just hard when you are like you do not
have any control over what happens.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
You can do all.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
That's the other thing people are like on TikTok, if
you eat this is what I eat in a day
as a pregnant person, blah blah blah blah blah, and
I'm like, I feel like I don't eat that differently
than that, and I'm moving my bodies much as I can,
and I've been steady climbing the scale. I don't know
that because I refuse to weigh myself, but by the
feel of my pants.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
That's a bigger tool scale.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Yeah, So this is just.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
This is your first pregnancy, so this is uncharted territory
for you too. So you're experiencing something for the first time.
I would imagine when navigating something for the second time,
you would know more what to expect from your body. Right,
this is like everybody's different obviously.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yeah, and this is coming from somebody who like I
specialize in body image work, like I've done this work
professionally and for myself for years. I feel like I
have a pretty good grasp on it. But even I'm
struggling with some stuff and need to, like you know,
go back into my toolbox and need to hear that
validation from other people. So if you're not in that space,
(14:17):
then it definitely would be normal for you to struggle
with this.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
Well.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I love that you shared that because you got the
validation from Taylor.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
She's our friend Taylor, and someone listening to you right
now he'd be like, Oh, I'm so glad Kat who
is and this is her job, this is what she
does for a living, helping others through this is also
having her experience with it.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
And living in this world is tough, like body image wise,
like living in our society and our culture, in our world,
it just is tough.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
It just is. No matter how much work you put
in it. You're climbing.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
We're climbing it up battle we will be forever. Because
there's as much work as you put into all of that,
you have five times that coming from the other side
telling you that that work is wrong, So anybody struggling
with that, I am too.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
This isn't directly related to what you're saying, but it
does have to do with things being hard or new.
I saw a perspective shift being talked about and just
sort of fitting here to say, if you're experiencing anything
new for the first time and you're finding it hard
or difficult, and maybe you were thinking something's too hard
(15:37):
to do or you could never do that, a perspective
shift could be instead of easy versus hard, familiar versus unfamiliar.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
This is very unfamiliar for me.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah, yeah, well I don't know that it totally applies to,
like being pregnant, but and thinking of maybe people wanting
to try something new, because I mean, I think it's
fair to say this is hard, not only the unfamiliar,
but it's hard. But just and how us talking about
things being EASi or hard unfamiliar made me think of
this perspective shift that I saw that might be helpful
(16:11):
for anybody just going through anything. It's like a little
brain hack of how you're looking at something, because then
when you see that something's hard, you might not want
to do it. Yeah, but if it's just unfamiliar. It's like, oh, well,
I just need to get familiar with that.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Like putting together a piece of furniture. This is unfamiliar.
I've never done this before. Versa's like, this is too
hard and complicated.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, but I am glad you hired a landscape or
that does seem hard.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
I'm familiar with both unfamiliar and art. And art also,
like I said, I would have wasted a lot of
money if I tried to do it myself.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Gardening is though, or getting your hands in the soil
and like digging in the dirt is very good for
the brain. That I am also just reminded of. I
don't have the study in front of me, but I
read it last week. No, it was something that I
came across last week where I was talking something. It
was an article about Alzheimer's And I'll see if what
(17:06):
we're talking about it, Shannon can look it up. But
how using your hands and gardening and getting in the
dirt is good for the brain. Using your hands and
(17:27):
gardening and getting in the dirt is good for the brain.
It's neuroscience. I can't explain it. It's unfamiliar.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I wonder why that would be, like, why with the
dirt specifically, or is it the activity you're doing in
the dirt?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Okay, well, okay, this is so far what Shannon has
pulled up. Multiple studies indicate that digging and dirt and
gardening provides significant psychological and cognitive benefits by interacting with
specific soil microbes and increasing critical brain growth proteins. Yeah,
I don't know if that's exactly what I saw. Research
from Universe of Colorado Boulder shoutout, that's where my niece goes.
(18:03):
It shows that this microbe activates serotonin producing neurons in
the brain, functioning as a natural mood stabilizer, similar to
some antidepressant medications.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
So dirt has similar qualities as antidepressant.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
That's sort of what a University of Colorado Boulder is saying.
But my I know that mine was a Alzheimer's related article.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Well, shoot, maybe I should have done it myself.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Okay, I think we maybe now have it. We now
have it a sixteen.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Year long longitudinal I did not know that wordudin.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
That word scared me. Do you know that because of
your therapy background?
Speaker 3 (18:39):
No, but I do know that you like, we've talked
about how like we'll skip words if we don't know them.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
And I knew you want to.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Skip a word. I don't know that I've ever seen
that word in my life. Thank you for help. No longitudinal,
longitudinal it's fun to say. I feel like I would.
We're saying it.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
You learned something new every day.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
So this is a sixteen year longitudinal study of older
adults found that daily gardening was associated with a thirty
six percent lower risk of dementia. This is it. This
is it, researchers. Researchers, that's where it's hard too. Researchers
attribute this to the bundle of physical activity, sensory stimulation,
(19:28):
and mental problem solving required by the activity. So that's
what it was. It had nothing to do with a
micro So I don't know about that study from Colorado,
but take with it, take from it what you will.
This one is what I was talking about. So you
get a bundle, it's like a three, it's like a
three for three for one.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
What I would like to do actually, because I really
want to be one of those houses that has a
bunch of like pretty like not wildflowers, but wildflower esque flowers.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
In the front of it, you know, in the springtime,
and I think, all you do? You just sprinkled?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah, but I want to take like a gardening class
because that is such an unfamiliar thing. I know, don't
know anything. There's so many different types of soil or mulch,
Like how do I even know what kind of mulch
I want? Or what soil on' is supposed to put
in there? Or the seasons and when you put tulips,
I know you have to put them in the fall,
because I really wanted to plant tulips and they said
(20:23):
you can't do that, And what flowers like come back
on their own? And what do you have to do
every year?
Speaker 4 (20:29):
I would, you know what I want to be like?
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Did you know Martha Stewart's documentary, Yeah, and she was
just in her garden pruning her flowers. I want to
get to the point where it's calming to me to
go out and just like cut some leaves off the
stems of my flowers and prune my garden because I
just understand how everything works.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Shannon said her best friend could give us a gardening class.
She has a business in Nashville teaching people about wildflowers
shut up.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
There's a certain flower. They're like all different colors. What's
a flower that you.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Would plant of hydrangea?
Speaker 4 (21:03):
No, that's like a bush, right.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
But you cut them in They but flowers yeah, yea yeah,
yea yeah, but that's a rose.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Bush is a flowers like the azaleas azalias? Those I
think those are the pretty different colored ones. I want
those like around my mailbox or something.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
You can do that, do that?
Speaker 4 (21:24):
I got a call Shannon's friend.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yeah, she's the prairie stylist on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Her name is Emily, And like, did I ever think
I would get to the point in life where like
I want to learn how to garden?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
But I want to too. I've gardened. I've told you
I've had a garden before where I had vegetables and
I would go out and it was so awesome, like
cutting cut a cucumber of cilantro romaine. You want romaine? Okay,
no problem, I'm going to go out to the garden and.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
That's like so cute.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
It's just but it sounds hard, like how do you
It's just unfamiliar. Thank you reframe, Thank you reframe.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
But it is weird because like I think this is
an adult moment where what I meant by like I
never thought I would get to this point is like
if you asked me in my twenties if I wanted
a garden, I'd be like, I have better things to do.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
But you also had an adult moment of hiring someone
to do the garden.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
You could use. Yes, there are certain plants and things
where I think hiring someone is the strategic, the right
move if you can do that. But then, like the
stuff around your mailboxes, get in the dig in there,
plants the flowers, plant the seeds, let them go up.
But you don't need you can handle that.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I'll hire somebody to landscape. I want to have a garden.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Yes, two yeah, perfect, so we'll get there. Longitudinal lunch
longe lounudinal. It's feeling weird. Longitudinal. That's sorry, I think. Okay,
that's how I would say it. Yeah, I mean you
saw that word right away and you just knew.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I also have taken research classes before, so it's you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Yeah, so you have seen it, and if.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
It makes you feel better, I knew that word, but
in my research class, I do believe I got the
worst grade out of the class.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
That's so weird because you always want to be the
best grade.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Not in grad school.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
In grad school, I realized I'm out of my league
and I can only do the best I can and
I'm never going to I had no plans of ever
getting a PhD, so that research class was of no
use to me. So I don't think I and it was.
That's one of those things. And this is just how brain.
Different brains work. I could sit in a developmental psychology
(23:33):
class and be so tuned in and understand what people
were talking about the research class. I even went to
office hours multiple times. It could not make any less
sense in my brain when I was doing so. When
I was turning in an assignment, I was like this,
I could get a zero or a one hundred. I
have no idea, Like my brain just did not work there.
(23:56):
But doesn't mean I'm stupid. No, I'm not gifted in
that area.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yeah, see tools here we are. I got a newsletter
from Mike Foster. I guess at one point I signed
up for his newsletter, which is Primal Questions. What I
feel like.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
You get a lot of newsletters and you read them,
do I I feel you you have Lisa's newsletter. I
feel like there's another newsletter you've talked about before. I
don't know who it is.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Well ours, I get the feeling they Oh yeah, I
get Moses is a news it's it's it's the literal news.
It's like newspaperaving his newsletter, but with the top news
stories of the day.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
You've get you've talked about another person's and maybe it
wasn't Maybe you don't get it every maybe to.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
You, Oh, I know our friend. Where's my brain right now?
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Our front?
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Are you going to want to walk with her?
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Katie Gusta? I saw her this weekend?
Speaker 5 (24:49):
You did?
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I love her? I love her newsletters. You're right, I
do read.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Her newsletters letters.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yeah, okay, So what's the name of our newsletter again?
I mean, I know it's Feeling Things. He gave it
a name.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I think it's just the Feeling Things newsletter.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Oh no, we gave it a name or did a
tagline or something?
Speaker 4 (25:09):
No? Nothing, have the day you need to have m okay, well.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Just kidding. So Mike's is called the Primal Question Newsletter,
and he caught my attention. I don't know that. I
always always read his but he caught my attention because
he was talking about the Manisphere and I have yet
to watch that Netflix documentary Inside the Manisphere, and I
want to, but he wrote all about it and then
(25:33):
I was like, Okay, I definitely need to carve out
time to watch this. So if you haven't seen it,
the Manisphere is basically a corner of the Internet where
male influencers create content about what it means to be,
quote a real man. On the surface, it looks like
guys talking about fitness making money. But the further you
go in, the darker it gets. Which I think you've
(25:56):
started the documentary but you haven't finished it.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
Well, you know, my thing is to watch thirty minutes
of everything.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I think.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
I didn't finish it because I was like, this is
making me angry, but it is.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
It's fascinating.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I mean it's gross and it's really sad because they
prey upon like gen Z jen Awf like young boys
to try to like brainwash them, and it's they're bad people,
like they're not like living good high lives, and a
lot of it is a facade, like they'll act one
way on the internet and then different things are happening
(26:29):
behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Well, Mike's big takeaway wasn't just about how toxic the
content is. It was about why young men are drawn
to it in the first place, and his point was
that these are valuable young men without solid male role models,
who are just looking for a yes to the question
am I wanted? Am I good enough? Which those are
(26:52):
a couple of the primal questions, and these influencers are
answering that question in the most unhealthy ways possible. He
also a really important point about being discerning about who
you allow to influence your life, and he gave us
three questions that we can ask ourselves when you are
(27:12):
trying to figure out who's getting your time, like what
are you watching? What are you following? First question, ask
yourself is this person self aware? Second? Who are they
actually serving? And third how is their message hitting your
own insecurities? Now I feel like as an adult, I
(27:33):
can maybe answer those, but I think about young kids.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
They're going to be able to answer that. But he
did end with this, true masculinity is measuring strength by
who you lift up, not by who you can push around. Yeah,
I and I thought that was really powerful because the
manosphere they seem to be wanting to.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Push around, and it's a lot about like them gaining
notoriety and following where it's not actually like living there
what they're preaching. I will say, I love these three questions.
Is this person self aware is such a hard question
to answer, sometimes specifically even for yourself and my self
aware most of the if you hear somebody who is
(28:16):
like one hundred percent confident that they're self aware all
the time, they're not.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Like, if you're self aware, it means that there are things.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
That you cannot know about yourself and that you just
cannot know and that you will have you have blind spots.
So if anybody's trying to figure that out with other people,
or if you hear somebody that constantly is talking about
how self aware they are, they're probably not.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
I am self aware, I think to your point now,
like if I really feel like I'm self aware with
my hormones, I really do. What do you mean, like
like now when I'm not acting like when I'm acting
a little sib Yeah, I think I have that self awareness.
And I'm not saying it's one hundred percent of the time,
(29:00):
but I will have an internal dialogue happening of like
why am I am I sounding my sib right now?
Like ooh that was a little harsh, or like am
I about to start my period? Or I think And
then sometimes I'll take it outside my brain and say
I think I'm about to start my period, and I'll disclose,
so it sort of helpfully lightens however I'm acting because
(29:22):
I know I'm not coming across exactly how I want to,
but I have that awareness and do you think I do?
Speaker 3 (29:32):
I think even asking that question brings about self awareness.
Like the fact that you can say, like I think this,
I want to check in, like do you see that
means that there's some self awareness there, Like it is.
The guys in this show, from what the little that
I saw, they're not looking for feedback from anybody, and
if you give them feedback that does not align with
(29:53):
what they want to hear, you're gonna get kicked out
of their life. And there's no self awareness in that.
If we're self aware, we need to be open to
feedback and open to like the things that we do wrong,
which I feel like you try to do and I
tried to do.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
It's still hard.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Nobody likes to hear I think it depends. Feedback can
be difficult, and I also like feedback.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
You do. I think you like feedback more than most people.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I was working a red carpet thing with a team
that I had never worked with before, and I didn't
know if I would ever get to work with them before.
I was filling in for somebody, and of course I
wanted to do a good job. Yeah, and the producers
are there with me and we have different you know,
celebrities coming up and we're doing interviews. In the middle
(30:40):
of it, I was like, the head producer came up
and gave me I wish I could remember exactly what
it was, but she sort of gave me an out
with each person that would be really helpful for how
they were editing the videos. And I was like, oh,
that's genius. I love that. And I said that's so great,
Like please tell me more, Like I want to know
more because that's going to be a game changer for
I close out each little interview and I want feedback.
(31:04):
And a couple hours go by and we're walking out
and the other producers is we were leaving for the evening.
They were just walking me out. They weren't done for
the night, but I was so they were nice enough
to walk me out and they were like, and hey,
thanks for being open to feedback. We're not used to
hearing like hearing that, yeah, and that's what we're called
(31:24):
as like the interviewer or in my job, what I do.
I don't call myself talent. That's what they call us.
They're the producers, were the talent, and they're like, we're
not used to hearing that from talent a lot. And
I was like, Oh, that didn't occur to me. I
want to know if I can do something better, because
why wouldn't I want to know it gave me a
better way to do something, and then it makes their
job easier and then everybody's better all around.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
But you also have to be open to feedback. You
have to have a certain amount of like ego strength.
A lot of people don't have that, and if they
get feedback, it kind of like hits on that I'm
not good enough versus your like, I am good at
my job. I also know that this is a new
thing for me and feedback is great. So I think
(32:08):
you have that confidence that allows you to take feedback. Yeah,
but confidence doesn't mean I know exactly what I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Okay, okay, because my self awareness right now telling me
that I don't know that I'm necessarily the most confident
person at all. However, front of the crowd, I do think, okay, okay,
maybe I feel a little great on stage with a microphone,
but I do that's when my cup feels full. Yeah,
I think I get excited by that. I'm not like, oh,
(32:38):
I'm the best at this at all whatsoever, but I
enjoy it and so therefore it makes it like a
good experience for me. I do think the delivery of
feedback is important because the way the head producer came
over and told me, she was so supportive and like
encouraged me and then gave it to me, and it
overall is working with a good team. I do think
(32:59):
that something if people are delivering criticism in a way
that's that can jolt me because I'm sensitive to oh shoot,
and now I'm not doing a good job. So then
it could go the opposite and then my performance goes downhill.
But she did it in a way that still was
constructive and lifted me up to where it only elevated
(33:21):
me more to where I went upwards. But I am
the type of performer where if I suddenly feel like
I'm in trouble with something or I've done something terribly wrong,
like it could go downhill fast because my confidence goes.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Like second guess yourself on everything, versus that person said
it in a helpful, kind way. So the other person
that's helping me trying to be better versus putting me down.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
So I think it's just a good reminder in our
delivery of feedback, whether it's at work or wherever we are,
just in how we approach it, making sure we're doing
it in which we've gotten constructive feedback from our listeners,
and then we've gotten some time construct someone just criticizing us,
and it hits different. I think we're like, oh cool,
that's a thoughtful take. I hadn't thought of it that way,
(34:08):
versus hey hater.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yeah, when it's really bad, it's like, well, we're not
even gonna take like I'm not taking that personally. But
it's like when it's in the middle where it's like
maybe if it's from somebody we respect, or is where
we know it's.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Different than from a stranger. I don't know. I don't know.
I was having this thought as you were talking.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Though, you know, there's always we think about, like, oh,
they should teach us how to do taxes in high
school and all this stuff, like there should be like
and maybe they do this.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
In some classes.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
I know I took like a communication class, but I
don't feel like we did this where you practice giving
and receiving feedback and like process what it's like, because
I feel like a lot of people don't mean to
be bad at giving feedback or hurtful, but they don't
know how to do it, like that's a skill in itself.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
I'm sure I've delivered it not well again, depending on
my mood or my hormones, what I'm going on, you know,
like you may not it may not come out the
way that you wanted.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
And they're like yeah, And sometimes I feel I never
want to hurt like not not it within like clients, well,
I don't want to hurt their feelings either, but like
within friendships or work relationships, I never want to hurt
somebody's feelings. So I think sometimes I can be too
(35:29):
soft with feedback and then I don't do my due
diligence versus like I wish I was taught how to
give constructive good I feel like I'm getting better at it,
but I wouldn't say I'm good at it, Like I
want to be able to give feedback to people and
also do it in that kind of way where I'm
not like tiptoeing around them, you know what I mean. Yeah,
I didn't know this existed, and so that's also why
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I was like.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Jarred to wells million. It's millions of followers.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
And it's not my corner of the Internet. So I
was like, what in the world? And it made me
also think what else is out there that I have
no idea about?
Speaker 2 (36:02):
That?
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Is this messed up a lot?
Speaker 2 (36:04):
I think there's a lot. It's so fractured now, so
thankfully instead of like I feel like back in the day,
if there wasn't, Well, first of all, these people may
not even have a corner of the Internet, so then
there's that part they may not exist, or the manisphere
obviously wouldn't. But because it's so fractured and there's so
many other things, Luckily, if it ever gained traction, it
(36:27):
doesn't have as many followers as it might because people
have so many different things to focus on. Yeah, but
they are honing in on the young men. So if
you're a mom of a young boy, like, just make
sure he's not consuming the manosphere content. I guess unless
you're into that.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
I know, if you have a mom of a young boy,
watch it first. I haven't finished it, so I can't
shouldn't really say this. It might be something good for
a teenage boy to watch and be like, this isn't
what we want to do, because look at who these
guys really are.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Oh yeah, like they can watch the Netflix stuff. I'm saying, like,
make sure on their YouTube or they consuming because the
more they watch the video is the more normal it's
gonna feel and seem. And then their minds are so multiple,
like they start to develop those thoughts early and then
it can be very difficult to break and how they
view women. And I don't know, I still need to
(37:16):
watch the Netflix. I'm fully admitting I have not watched
it yet.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Would you go back and live two thousands with that
era of technology or would you like be like, well,
we'll take something in the middle twenty ten. Would you
(37:41):
go back and live two thousands with that era of
technology or would you like be like, well, I'll take
something in the middle twenty.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Ten ooh, twenty ten. It's pretty nice because we had
a Twitter it'd be one hundred and fifty characters or less,
and was Instagram around it. Not yet, I don't think.
Maybe it was ten. It was early stages. Twenty eleven
twenty twelve was when I first formed an account, and
I wasn't right away, but we were pretty on top
of it. I did enjoy Twitter a lot. I don't
(38:10):
ever get on there anymore now that it's X like,
I don't. It just seems dark over there.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
But it was good times, yeah, and you would just
like tweet like going to the grocery store, Yeah, I
get some eggs.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Right, or something funny. But you had to make it.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
It was to the point you're like, I wouldn't say that, nod, okay,
So I didn't really tweet if you didn't have Twitter.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
It wasn't like you might say something like that. But
it was more so, gosh, I wonder if we should
pull up some of my old tweets. Okay, if I
was like, hey, guys, going to the grocery store getting
some bread.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
I feel like people tweeted what they were doing, but
you only had like what one forty characters one hundred
and fifteen, one hundred and fifty, which is like not
a lot.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
So I joined Twitter in February of two thousand and nine. Oh.
One of my big posts was from twenty seventeen, and
it said, I said let's do this, and I put
an American flag and it's been and I bringing the kids.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
Home from Haiti. Well that's wholesome.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
So that seems like an instagram ish type post.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
You could put pictures on Twitter back then. That's interest.
Oh that was twenty sixteen. You said, when was that?
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Okay? So, and that was twenty seventeen. But in twenty sixteen,
I did say we're parents all caps. We got the
call Haiti here we come, leaving tomorrow for our two
week bonding trip. So that's right after we got matched
with the kids. So clearly I tweeted about the kids
a lot. More kids. Let me try to find you
something from the early day, give.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
Me something funny.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
You said, I know, I did, I know, I did
more kids. Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh, more kids.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
And then when you had Instagram and Twitter, how did
you decide like what to put on?
Speaker 2 (39:50):
What I mean, you did both. I think we even
had them connected to where it would like post both Oh,
here we are on family feud.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
How do I go?
Speaker 2 (39:58):
I need to go back to like the very beginning,
like Radio Amy, Twitter. Nobody cares about this. Why am
I even looking it up two thousand and nine. I
joined February two thousand and nine, so why is it not?
Speaker 3 (40:11):
You might have to just go back really far. This
would be a good segment. This would be a good
segment for us to do next week. We'll find some
of your most embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Tweets, now my funny ones, your funniest tweets.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
There's a thing that people do now on like batcherette
trips and stuff where they go My friend just texted
me about this. She was like, dang, I wish you
were coming on my bacherette trip because I just went
back to like two thousand and eight at our Facebook posts.
And the game is you put like somebody goes and
looks up Facebook posts from all these people from whatever,
and then you put them up on like a screen
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and you have to guess like who it.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
Was that said it?
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Like that's funny, and also that would be more deifying
because what was I saying?
Speaker 4 (40:50):
Yeahto knows?
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Because I have eighteen thousand posts. You are on Twitter.
I was going tweeting all the time. I did post this,
what do the Greek use to cut their pizzas?
Speaker 4 (41:03):
What did the Greek?
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Huh? What did the Greek used to cut their pizzas?
Little caesars?
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Nothing's changed? I feel like that's something you would say now. Yeah,
so no grocery store tweets?
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Yeah, so far I have. I mean I but.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
Also you are a public figure, so you're not telling
people where you're going.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Well, I wouldn't say which grocery store. You think If
I say I'm going to the store to get some eggs,
that's getting away where people.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Might be running to ever grocery store around town. Anyway, Sorry,
lem o, how did we get there?
Speaker 4 (41:41):
I don't know. Oh what part of technology would you
want to be in?
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Okay, Yeah, that's an interesting question. I should have stuck
with that.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
You I think I would want to be I want
the Internet because I.
Speaker 4 (41:55):
Like Google.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Yeah. I like having a cell phone because when I
had a pager and I.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Had a to the payphone and that was rough, but
you didn't know it was rough because that probably was like,
at least I have a pager back then. It's all
relative though, Like when I was little and I my
mom dropped me on for the movie. She gave me
a quarter, and after the movie I called her from
the payphone. Then I had to wait and have her
come pick me up. That seems archaic now, but back
then it was just very normal. So I wish I
(42:20):
could go back and never know about what we've had,
because then that would be I'm like, oh, we're so
with it. We have payphones, that's cool, you know what
I mean. I think I would want to be like two,
Like I remember when I was learning about the Internet
in like fifth grade, Like I want to go back
to that, and like with you did a research paper
in school, you went to the library and you checked
(42:44):
books out.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
You didn't use chat GPT.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
We definitely didn't use that, but we didn't like have
like a database on a computer, Like now the library
is on the computer.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
You can search those things anywhere.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
And like, I don't know, I think I would I
miss more technology, more problems, is what they said.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
That's what your motto, Any tech more props. Yeah, Well,
we were talking about hormones of my self awareness with that,
so I do want to bring up a voicemail that
we got about hormone replacement therapy. This is from Mindy
in Kansas, and she's sharing her own personal positive experience
(43:28):
with it because I've just started my hormone journey, or
my latest hormone journey where I'm really dialing in and
I get my second iron infusion this week, and I
will say I had no idea how the iron infusion
last week was going to knock me down. I was
so fatigued, So heads up. I mean, they do kind
(43:50):
of warn you of that, but then you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
they even say potential flu like symptoms. I did not
have those, but I did have fatigue. I was very, very,
very tired. And so I have my appointment in a
couple of days, so I'm gearing up for the tiredness.
But now it's not as unfamiliar. I know what to
expect and I just have to deal with it. Like
(44:11):
it's not gonna be fun, but I'm gonna deal with it,
and I'm gonna know that hopefully two weeks on the
other side of that, because that's when I told you
to start to really start judging me. Is two weeks
after my last iron infusion. So two weeks from this week,
you can see if I'm different, and you can be honest.
I want the feedback, Okay, I do, and I think
(44:32):
you can take it. But really, if I don't change,
I'm gonna be heartbroken because I felt like I'm changing,
but the iron has set me back.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
Well again, I think that you're getting the symptoms that
are supposed to come with that.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
M So that is that I love my Yam Pellett.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
Because after the Yam pellet, you were on cloud nine.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
I was feeling good, which that's Mindy speaks to her
testosterone experience and how it is a game changer for her.
So we'll go ahead and play Mindy's voicemail. Here it
is bigurel.
Speaker 5 (45:00):
It's many from Kansus. I just thought I would holler
love your podcast. Armpits so funny. I work in an
office and towards the end of the day, I will
squat down at my desk where nobody can see me
and put on deodorant. I have a dance studio and
you never know what you're gonna see there. So my
girls are always showing everything and putting on deyodurant, and
(45:20):
I would rather that than smell them or lose them
going to the bathroom. Also, I had a boyfriend once
and he was the kindest about the breakup situation. I
think he was missing an ex. Obviously this is not
the case for you, Amy, but he was so kind.
He was like, I just want you to know it's
this has nothing to do with you. This is everything
(45:42):
to do with me. I don't know why I feel
this way, Like you're wonderful. I mean, gave me all
the reasons. Like still at the end of the day, right,
it sucks, and I still respect him for it. I
see him a couple of times a year. We live
decently close, have kids kind of the same age, and
both are very happily married with a family. And anyways,
(46:03):
just yes, so nice to know that people can speak
her on ups and not complete assholes. And then the
other thing, I had just maybe turned forty, and I
was like, why do I feel eighty five? Like nobody
can tell me I don't have energy? I feel like
this because I'm forty, Like I'm not listening. I'm sorry,
(46:23):
And so anyways, I ended up having to go several
different places, and hormone replacement therapy is where I went,
and I'm also on testosterone and it has been so
life changing. She gave me the option of injection once
a week by myself, like a bugle in my cheek.
(46:44):
It absorbs, and I went with the injection. I thought,
if I don't like it, it's a waste of one
hundred and fifty dollars and I'll choose something else whatever.
But really it is not a big deal at all.
And I inject myself once a week. It is pretty fulous. Swear.
I was sitting there and I have never in my life.
(47:06):
Then the girl that's like, oh, we should go to
bed now, I am really in the mood, and I
swear to you, I was sitting there and I was like,
oh my gosh, I could take my husband to bed
right now. And it's not that I'm crazy feifty for
any stretch of imagination, but it is so nice to
(47:28):
have the energy to you know, be in the mood,
to just feel like I feel like I should have
felt probably for the last twenty and so anyways, I'm guessing, yeah,
I was also at like a ten. With hormone replacement therapy,
you do get a little bit it is a little
bit higher of a range and she is totally fine
(47:51):
with the way that is because I am happy with
the way I am functioning. I'm able to work out,
able to you know, put in fourteen hour days and
just I mean still at the end of the day,
I'm tired, but not like I was. I don't even
know how I was functioning. So anyways, hope you girls.
Oh and Cat, first of all, I'm so sorry, congratulations.
I'm so happy for you. I just love listening to
(48:13):
all of the updates for sure. Don't feel like you're
bogging anybody down by them.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
Have the day you need to have by you gave
a pregnancy update, so yeah, earlier. So I'm sure Mindy's
happy for that. And that was a very cute way
to end it. And you know, she talked about her
testosterone being a little bit higher than where she would
want it, but that's fine because she's feeling good. Yeah,
you have to just pay attention to your own body
and how you're feeling. I will say a side effect
I think I'm having for my testof stone right now
(48:39):
as my chest is sort of breaking out. I have
to go back for blood work in a couple of weeks,
so i'll know more of where my levels are. But
apparently online it said this will subside. It's something that
just started to pop up. And you know, I took
care of my chest rash when I got rid of
fabric softeners, and uh so try your sheets. Well I'm
(49:00):
calling it a rash. No, they're bumps like you pop
them like pop, No, but like cyst like you can't
pop them. But they're big bumps and they and that's
what I was getting from my scented soaps and my
dryer sheets. So my chest is sensitive. But I think
what's happening to it now because I had cleared it up.
It's got to be the testosterone and I just have
(49:22):
to power through. My body is unfamiliar and so.
Speaker 4 (49:26):
It's gonna normalize.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Yeah that's the word. Did she learned that in your
research class? Research normalized?
Speaker 3 (49:34):
I think that's very normal longitudinal. I liked this voiceman
because I feel like she covered so much ground.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
She did, which I mainly wanted to share it because
of the hormone stuff, but I didn't. I forgot how
long it took her to get there, So I should
have set it up differently of like, oh, yeah, she's
going to touch on how I don't like when I
see people. I'm perplexed by people putting on their Deodora
on video because that just freaks me out. I would
never And then the breakup, I guess she's referring to.
(50:00):
My breakup was really healthy and well.
Speaker 4 (50:03):
We talked about how too, I had that one boyfriend
that was very nice. Oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
I also have to say I love how she said
I wanted to take my husband to bed. It felt
like such like a I don't know, like an old,
olden day.
Speaker 4 (50:17):
I don't like. No old fashion.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
Is that one they used to say, like I want
to take you to bed? And like, why don't we
say that more?
Speaker 2 (50:24):
Now? She said it because we got to be on
more testosterone.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
I guess now I feel like it's more like raunchy
and like that's just like oh okay.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
Sweet sweet sweet, Yes, Mindy from Kansas who is not
eighty five but in her forties ish when you're around them,
around it there because you know age, location, name, If
you're willing to share with us, we're building data on you.
Speaker 4 (50:54):
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
We just want to know.
Speaker 4 (50:56):
It's just fun.
Speaker 3 (50:56):
Wait, did you know you're not going to care about
this but now I'm gonna share it.
Speaker 4 (51:01):
Do you remember when Pokemon Go was a thing?
Speaker 2 (51:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (51:03):
Did you ever doo it?
Speaker 2 (51:04):
No?
Speaker 4 (51:05):
Did your kids?
Speaker 5 (51:06):
No?
Speaker 4 (51:07):
Right, I didn't either. But turns out they actually are
using all of that.
Speaker 3 (51:13):
Data for AI, the Pokemon Go data, like all like
the geographical stuff.
Speaker 4 (51:19):
I don't really understand it.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
But there's like a debate of like, was it ever
really for Pokemon Go or is it a ploy to
get people to then.
Speaker 4 (51:26):
Get all this data for AI?
Speaker 2 (51:28):
Maybe?
Speaker 4 (51:30):
Crazy?
Speaker 2 (51:31):
Maybe?
Speaker 3 (51:31):
So you gotta be careful what games you're playing play
online that was not even online. That's like in the
world you Pokemon Go. I'm pretty sure people would like
you have to travel around to play.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
Yeah. I never was into it, so I vaguely remember, Yeah,
people going.
Speaker 4 (51:48):
It really surprises me. You never played that?
Speaker 2 (51:50):
What I'm okay? I was like, do you even know me? Okay, okay, okay,
all right. We love hearing from y'all. Make sure you
send us a voicemail or an email, anything and everything
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hope wherever you are you have the day you need
(52:11):
to have. Bye bye,
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