November 24, 2025 • 54 mins
Shea Fisher grew up in the dust and adrenaline of the rodeo—daughter of a world-famous professional rodeo mom and dad, and a girl determined to keep up with the boys. She even became a professional bull rider just to stay in the mix. Music found her next: she signed her first record deal in Australia and landed multiple radio hits before Nashville legend James Stroud called out of the blue and had her releasing a new single within two weeks in America.
We talked about the full ride—marrying a professional cowboy, life as a mom, building her own clothing line, and now returning to the music that’s always been in her blood. Shea shares how all the chapters of her life fit together and the hard-earned lessons the rodeo, the industry, and motherhood have taught her.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Cary Lone.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
She's a queen and talking and you. So she's getting
really not afraid.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
To feel this episode, so just let it flow.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
No one can do we quiet, cary Lone, It sound
like carolund.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I am so happy to be here with Shane Fisher,
and you're just a vision. You are so beautiful and
put together and you're helping me. Are you there? Did
you freeze? Oh no, she froze, She froze. Wait are
you there?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Close?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I okay, shay, this is this is how I feel
right now. I'm a little bit of a hot mess.
Express I just my face lasered off. It's so it's
coming back. It's looking a little scary. You are so gorgeous,
you are so talented. You've had such a big life
for so long, like you have been doing it for
a long time.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Just looking like this girl.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
This is all this is extra help like, so you.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Look beautiful still. I just said before we go on here, I'm.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Too scared to lasa.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
So yeah, I could not.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I could not do it. I couldn't handily like craziness.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So I get it. It's a it's a it's an undertaking,
for sure. So she came in again, I know it was,
it's been, it's been a process. It's scary. My poor daughter,
I scared her to death. But I'm like, it's fine. Really,
you're from Australia, I am. Yeah, you are like a
star in Australia when you're a teenager. I had.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I had a very interesting upbringing. So my parents are
both Australian champion rodeo athletes.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
So wait, your mom too, what does your mom do?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, she's about race. She won like the Australian world
title competing And honestly, from the time I was born,
I was on a horse. So I didn't grow up
musical or per se entrepreneurial. I grew up in I mean,
my parents are both very successful, but it's in the
rodeo world. And then my parents moved to the US
(02:13):
when I was nine, and my.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Dad, dad, he's a bull rider.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yep, so he's a bull rider and a bare back rider.
So the horse and the bulls and man, I have
so many stories. I remember his kids like, he did
not have very many injuries, but I remember, you know,
him breaking his arm on bulls and you know, we
we had lots of hospital visits.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
But were you red.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
You know, I remember when he was riding bulls in
the US. I was nine through eleven. We lived here
for a brief period of time. He was on the
PBR circuit and I remember sitting there. I would get
kind of nauseous to my stomach. I won't lie before
he would compete, but obviously I'd always pray with my mom,
and you know, my dad, like I said, he didn't
have a ton of injuries, but yeah, I mean it
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was it was scary as a little girl watching your
dad ride bulls.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Did you hears meet in the rodeo huh?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Well, they were in the western industry together. They got
together very young. They were like sixteen and eighteen when
they started dating. So yeah, they were a little cowgirl cowboy.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
And they fell in love on the rodeo circuit and
then they just travel around and do rodeos together.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
And then as kids came along, first four years of
my life, we didn't have a home base, so we
lived in like our horse trailer between rodeos.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
And then when I that's how.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
You were born, Yeah, on the road, So you lived
in a horse trailer traveling to the rodeo circuits. Was
your first home.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yeah, it was a cool.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Lighte Was it cool? Was it hard? Did you like it?
Was it stressful? Did you know that this is a
different lifestyle?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I think I was so young, but I put myself
in my mom's shoes now, and I'm like, can you
just imagine having three kids on the road, living in
a horse trailer. So like we go out with my
husband or we're on two or whatever, and we're all
on buses and we're like, Okay, this is just a
few months of the year. But if you lived on
that for four years, I feel like I would not
be near as put together as my mom is. Like
(04:11):
she did well to handle it, but it was we
didn't really know any different. I mean that was I
think if you don't know any different.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
As a kid, but just used of that lifestyles. It's
what they were born into.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
So did you get into rodeoing as a kid?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I did so I yeah, I would bowl, race and
then breakaway rope. And then when I was fourteen, I
there was an event that was called the All Round.
So the guys, the younger boys could compete in all
the events, even the ones that I thought were girly events.
They could still compete in them, but we weren't really
able to compete in the bull riding. So I always
thought it was so unfair because I would never win
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like the big all round prize.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
And I remember I was fourteen.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I said to my dad like, kN girls bu right,
and my dad was like, well, let me check the rules,
and so checked me.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I was the first girl. Oh you did not in
the junior bul riding.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I did, But part of me, deep down now I
think about it, I'm like, my parents were very strict
and it was great, but I think it was a
great excuse to be able to talk to all the boys
because I was allowed to go like behind the shoots
and hang out with the guys and it wasn't weird.
So deep down it was polly so I could talk
to the cute cowboys. But then I really wanted to win.
But for two years I wrote bolts.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
So you decided to bull ride to talk to the boys.
That is a bold move. I mean, you were a
tough girl. Did you train? Did you know how to
write a bull? Does your dad give you a lesson
like this? Did you stay on the bull? Like how
did it go? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
So I don't do anything half, So my dad actually
don't do any day half.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
No.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
My dad used to coach a bunch of younger cowboys,
so he had like the bucking machine at home. So
one summer for three months he trained me, and I
remember the first time I went to compete, like the
guys kind of chuckled when I went behind the shoots,
but I knew me and my dad knew that, like,
there was no way I wasn't gonna do good. Like
I was so trained by that time. I knew all
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the ins and out. I had a world championship me
what to do. So the very first time I ended,
I got third. And then after that, I mean I
did well, Like I think I was athletic enough. I
had a great coach, And it's more about in my opinion,
it's more about form than size. You don't want to
be a bullwriter and be like a big person anyway,
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So it was perfect for me.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
I was agile and young and fit.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I got some great growing muscles, like my inner thigh
muscles were so dang strung by the end of my
whole two year bull writing Korea, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
You two years, yes.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
And then I got signed a record deal and my
label's like yeah, no, Like this was great to talk
about in like interviews, but no more because we don't
want to broke an arm or bang black eye. So
they made me quit.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
What I feel like that would have been so cool
if you'd have done bull riding and had a record deal.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah no they were They're like, nope, can't do it.
So I had to give up my career and my
talking to boys stage.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
But I mean, you were definitely the coolest, most, the
toughest girl out there were all the boys trying to
date you, all the bull rider boys trying to date you. No.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
I think they were too scared of my dad, so
it doesn't really work to my benefits because they were like, yeah, no,
we're not gonna her dad's at the time.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
My dad's Eddie Fisher, and they all knew who he was,
so I.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Think he's like a world champion. He is.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And he used to judge too, and it was terrible
because he would never give me a good score because
he would never want to give me extra points.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
So I hated when he was the judge.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
But that's another reason the young boys didn't talk to
me much because they were like, if we start dating
his daughter.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Then we won't we won't get scored good.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
So it worked out my parents' benefit, not mine.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
So how did you get involved in music? Because you
grow up on the rodeo circuit. You're a freaking bull
rider as a woman, I mean, crushing the game for
two years. You So your parents moved to America for
a little while though, to pursue because they crushed Australia
and so they need they were going to just go
and take over America now as world champions because you
(08:10):
got to get another market.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah, so Rody was speaking Australia, but there was so
much money to be one in the US. So my
parents moved to the US, moved the whole family when
I was nine. We lived here for two years, and
that's honestly where I first fell in love with music.
I mean it was the nineties. Who didn't love country
music In the nineties. We did a lot of miles
in a truck driving between rodeos, so I got to
listen to the radio so much. So then I thought
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when I thought I moved home to Australia and I
was like, I'm Missinger, It's gonna great. But it wasn't
always that you know, always ups for me. I started
entering talent quest and they did not like me. I
didn't real I was too American, I didn't look at
I was too cowgirl. I just didn't fit the mold
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of the industry, the talent quest industry at the time.
But then I thought, okay, well I'll just quit that
and I'll start singing national anthem rodeos. So I would
riding the ring on my horse and sing the national anthem,
and I kind of liked it more because the crowds
are bigger, and I always liked the bigger crowds.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
I was like, this is great, and you always get
a huge applause afterwards.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I'm sure, yes, even if it's terrible, they're again to clap.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
It's the anthem, so see.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
The anthem is also the hardest thing to sing, so
way to just like throw yourself into the fire.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, it's not as these tryin ones, not near as
hard to see Mary can one. But it's still one
of those songs if you mess up, can be major
lea not a great deal, but I remember being kind
of My big break came when I was at a roadier.
I was competing and my parents were competing as well,
and there was a big two of US pop today
(09:45):
with big stage, and obviously knew it was someone famous,
because you don't have a too bus in stage if
you weren't back then. So I said to my dad, Hey,
can I go knock on this too bus door and
see who this is? Maybe they want me to sing
before them.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
And you're so confident years old.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I knocked on this two of US door and the
men at the actual act came to the door. His
name was Steve Ford and he was one of our
number one artists Astray at the time, and he came
to the door thankfully for me. He loved rodeos, so
he knew who my dad was. And I was like, hey,
do you need a support act. He's like, oh, I
feel so brave.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Oh you're writing bulls. That's how I know how you're
so brave.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Okay, No, I think that I just always lived life
of like if you don't try, like the worst thing
that can happen is you can fail or they say no.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
That was always like that.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I failed a lot, but then I didn't care because
I just found the reasons that I was succeeding, whether
it was rodeo or whatever I mean, and I wasn't.
It's not like I grew up always getting yeses. I
wasn't cool at school, which I didn't care about because
I took that as Okay, I'm different. This is going
to be used in my benefit one day. But I
remember when I went to the two bus door, he
(10:52):
said his support act was sick. Asked if I had
a band, I said nope, but I have karaoke CDs,
CDs back then the way to make us feel old,
he put me on stage girl.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
It was two hours of four his show.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
There was three people in the audience and two were
my parents, but I performed like there was ten thousand
people there and he happened to be watching from his
two of us. So then he said to my parents, Hey,
I've got formal shows on my tour that I don't
have a support act for. Would your daughter like to
come and be my opening act? So my parents said yes,
I'm fourteen, and from there Steve became my manager and
(11:28):
took me on his next Austrayan tour. I mean I
only had cover songs then, but we wrote my first
album together and him and my parents funded my first
album we flew to the US. We recorded in Nashville,
and then we came home and started pitching to labels.
Now that was kind of a big shot, Like we
knew that it was a long shot, I should say,
because there weren't Australia didn't have a young country music acts.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
But we thought, well, we'll just start at the top and.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Go down and crazy enough, at sixteen, I signed with
ABC Universal, which was one of our four major record
deals like record companies, and I had no idea what
I was doing. I was a cowgirl and they say,
like fake it to you make it, and I did.
But one thing that we did that was so smart,
and I know a lot of people do it now,
(12:13):
is it's all about the persona. So like when I
was going out as sixteen and nobody knew who I was.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
My manager, I had two of us, had a big stage.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
So I'd go to these towns and people wouldn't know
who I was, but they would be like, oh, we
must be missing out who is this girl? And I
formed a fan base really quickly doing that, and I
just was different. I wore my cowgirl hat when I sang,
I did not sound like Kerry Underwood.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
I was a good vocalist.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I wasn't a great vocalist, but I was a great performer.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
So I just kept doing that.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
And then by the time I was like seventeen, I
was doing my own Israelian tour and it felt like everything,
it felt like the sky was limit now.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I worked really hard and I was very focused.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I felt like at that age it was a lot
of pressure because I couldn't hold a red solo cup
even if it had water in it, because eyeballs would
think it was alcoholic. Had been very, very smart about
my choices because my mark it was young girls, not Disney,
but kind of that in between Disney and real country music.
So then at twenty years old, I was in Australia
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competing at a rodeo and I got a phone call
which I thought was spam, and it was a guy
named James Stroud, which you.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
May know James.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I know James Stroud, and.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
He was starting his record label called Stroudivarius.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
So he had heard my music getting mastered, my second
album getting mastered in a studio in Nashville, and he
had walked in with Richard Landis was doing it at
the time, and so Jane is like, hey, I need
this girl. So he called me and he's like, hey,
can you fly to America next week? I want to
meet one off your record deal.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I'm like, do what.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I'm like, I like, I couldn't even put it together.
I'm like, how do you heading out my number?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Like?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
It was so confusing, But my dad.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
And me got on a plane and we flew to
the States and went with James and he said, you've
got if you sign, you've got two weeks because we've
got to get you on radio touring and get your
song out before XYZ song comes out. So I picked
up and moved and I was having number ones.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I mean, I was doing great in Australia.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
But we're on the radio having number ones in Australia.
So you were having a big career in Australia.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
But I knew that, like I only could go so
far there, and I knew as a little girl ever,
I always dreamed of being able to be in America.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I always I always dreamed of more.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Now number ones is amazing, and that was great, but
I felt like I had kind of done what I
wanted in Australia.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
So I took the leap of faith.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I moved seven guys over with me, my brand, Me
and seven guys lived in a house at Hendersonville on
the Lake.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
And drop it. You lived with your whole band?
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Oh yeah, me and the boys.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I'm were you dating? Were you dating any of them?
Or they all just doing no brothers? Oh so you
just you can just hang with the guys. You've been
one of the guys form your whole life. Huh. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
It was great because I didn't feel like I was
just moving into a strange country by myself. Like I
literally packed up my guys who had been on too it.
Then we just all moved together and the record label
handled it.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
They paid for it.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
They were like, yeah, this is great because they wanted
to take We did an acoustic radio tool, but we
had three band members doing it, so it was it
wasn't like your standard just one player. So we all
packed up and we're on the bus and we did
a three month radio two around the States. And then
right when my song came out, which it was an
odd first choice, it had a cheerleading chance on it,
and the record label like take the hat off, remove
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the boots, put the heels on, like Trey Fanjoy shot
the music video.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
It was wonderful, but they kind of started changing who
you were.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Oh completely. But I was like, okay, well, I'm this
is your deal. I'm gonna trust you with it.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
And the problem, I think, like that's the problem is
they get they seeing you for what you are in
your element, as your true self, and then they're like,
let's just take you and just twist it around on
and mold you and change it a little bit and
fit you into the mold.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Yeah, you would be so surprised that you went back
and listened to it was called Don't Chase Me, and
the song did great. The music video was like I'd
always looked up to Trey Fanjoy and for those that
don't know, she shot Love Story of Taylor Swift all
of Miranda Lamb.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
But she's an incredible director.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
So that was great. But where it all kind of
went spiraling down for me was I had done radio tour,
my song came out and had been out for about
a week. It was doing really well, was top third
added song, and then a label shut down. Oh Nonny
Gillies had there was funds got stopped, so the.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Label shuts down.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I get a phone call they're like, hey, the record
label shut down today, like literally that's it.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
And I'm like, so I was still in a record deal.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
I couldn't really get out of it because I still
contracted in until it was actually officially shut down.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
So I was in very much in limbo.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
And that's where I had to decide, like, hey, do
I move home to Australia and continue my career. I
did have to send on my band home, but I
felt deep down that like I was brought here for
a reason, like I feel like doors open for a reason.
And I wasn't ready to give up on I didn't
know what it looked like. I know, if it was
music or business or my husband or whatever.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
But I started. I mean, I knew I had to
pay my bills.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
So I started a company, which was a silversmith company,
and my parents had done that in Australia, and I
would cold call like Rodeo Associations. I was trying to
see if I had a buckle here. But we make
like buckle. We actually made Ala Lanley a buckle for
the CMA Awards just a couple of days ago.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I suddenly I also made President Trump a buckle too.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yeah, that's amazing little company.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I would sit at Panera Bread, but I always had
work ethic. I would literally songwrite during the day and
then I go sit at Panera Bread by myself, which
I was fine with, and cold call these rodeo associations
trying to see if they would give me a shot,
because I knew I had to make thirty thousand dollars
to pay for my house and to live in the
States until I figured out what I was going to
do it. And the first year I actually made ride
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that and then I just was lonely. So I kept
started going back and forth to Texas. And that's kind
of how Tyson came in the picture and I met.
I met my husband was when I was visiting Texas
on my why Texas?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Why are you going back and forth to Texas?
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Because I felt like it felt more like home. You know,
I grew up Rodeo. The people were more like the
people I was surrounded by. We had had some you know,
I had some friends from when my parents lived there
when we were younger.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
And I could just get on a horse. You know.
Even when I was living in this city.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
I still would go out to Kicksbrooks's ranch and ride
horses and stuff. I just could never like put that
part of me aside. It was always like that was
my like relaxation, how I could breathe.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
So were you upset that you that you gave up
rodeoing for the record label and then the record label
shut down?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
No, what I know, I wasn't because I had achieved
a lot Australia already from that, and I wasn't even
upset that I per se had given away a lot
of my opportunities in austray by moving. The thing that
I found the most was I had found my identity
in being known from music for so many years from
the time I was sixteen, that I had to relearn
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what my identity look like without music because I wasn't
promised to get that again when the record label shut down.
It's a natural was a tough town, like you know,
it's not just promise to you. So I did get
a little bitter on the industry, like I mean, I'm
not gonna lie. For probably three years, I couldn't watch
an award show. I couldn't any of that because I
was sing all my friends that I used to songwright
with and hang out with, having number one songs and
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doing really well, and I was happy for them. I
was so happy for them, but I just felt like
that should be me. So it really wasn't until I
let go of that and found my identity and who
I was that I feel like doors opened up again
with businesses and my husband and everything happens in the
right time.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Everyone goes through seats five.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I always knew I would get back into music now
I'm I was aware it wouldn't be to the extent
of having my own Australian two is in all of that,
like you go through a season with music, but I
knew that i'd always get back into it and get
my love back. I just had to kind of step
away for a little while. I mean, I had been
in it for a decade and just kind of was
a little burnout.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
I think it'll break your heart. Music will really break
your heart, especially when you're so young, because I feel like,
and then you get hooked up in the system and
a record label and it takes everything they it literally
you give your entire existence to it. You pour yourself
into it, and you are the brand, so it's you
are the product, so it's you. So when your record
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label you know, ends and you lose your deal. Then
it's like it's such a personal hit as well, you
know how I think though, like coming up from the
ashes is one of the most incredible things that can
happen to a human being, you know, because when you
hit that breaking point, you either die, you know, you
either quit and you just die and you give up
and you're bitter forever and you you say, it wasn't fair,
(21:07):
that shouldn't have happened, and you know, you just stay
there or you do what you did, you like, grieve it,
you take some time, and then you re emerge. But
what did you do in that time period when you
lost your identity and had to find your identity as
your true self? And then who actually is your true self?
Take Away the rodeo, take away, the record deals, take
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away the number ones, take away the hit producers and songwriters,
and you know, the tour buses. Who did you find
your real identity to be?
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
I mean, I think first and foremost you have to
learn to love yourself again for not for number one
songs and not for how many magazines come as you've
been on, but truly be able to look in the.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Mirror and love who you are. So that to me
was the journey.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
When I was in Texas, that's where I met my husband.
I was at Houston Rodeo doing some work for clothing
company and I met Tyson. Now I wasn't at the
stage to get married. Tyson was the type of guy
you would marry. He was, I mean he was about
us A world champion. I mean he wasn't world champion,
but he.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Was a winner. But he was a good, nice guy.
And I was like, I haven't really bade him many
of those. I'm not sure ready for a nice guy
like you marry those.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
But I finally, you know, gave in, not gave in
because I'm blessed.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
He stayed persistent, but he was.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Very pissive, and he was pursuing you very much for
like two years before I'd give him my phone number.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I was before you gave him your phone number. You
didn't even give him your number.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Okay, No, I think I was just at such a
weird time in life, you know, And I think, deep down,
I don't think I was ready to be like he
kind of first met me when I was still at
the end of my mute, well the end of that
part of music, so I could like be like, oh, yeah,
I'm super busy, you know, you know, and you kind
of make it for a while. When people ask what
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you're doing, you don't lie, but but you can stretch
the truth and make it still seem like you're important
in your own mind. And I did that for a
while and then one Dale was like, I don't care anymore.
What are you doing well, I'm trying to grow businesses,
you know, a record deal anymore. So I just had
to try and start to be honest with myself and
I noticed that, like I then put my time and
energy in Okay, I want Tyson to be a world champion,
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so I'm gonna be the best wife I can be
to make him as successful as he can be. And
then I was like, okay, now I found in the
market in the Western industry, there was no children's clothing that.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
I really felt was cute.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I felt like there was a big gap in the market.
So I reached out to a lot of major brands,
all the big brands you can think of, and I
was like, Hey, I want to do a kid's clothing line.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Do you want to work with me?
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Now?
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Doing that, you make like five percent. Well they all
said no, So I was like, okay, well, sorry, screw this,
Like I'm gonna do it myself.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I guess I'll do it myself.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
I decided to create a kid's clothing line. In the
first five years, I just had the baby boots and
we did very average. Like Tyson's like, are you sure
you want to put all this time into this because
you're not wasting, but you're spending a lot of time
for what you're making.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
And I was like, I do not quit. I know
this is what I meant to do.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
So I kept going, and then a branch into clothing,
and then our first customer when we did the clothing
was Cavendihs, second was BUCkies, then boot Bonds. So we
were running a business in our garage because we just
got it just blew up so fast.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
And I don't have a degree in business. I don't
have a degree in designing.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
How did you design a clothing? Well?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
I was sick of like Disney clothes. I was like,
like this vest, like you could do a cute version
of this, modifying it so itce more modest for a kid.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Okay, that's what I want to put my kid in
so I would look at.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
My wardrobe and what I would wear, and then I
would design a kid's item based upon that. I didn't
I wanted to keep a clothing line that was like
a stylish Worstern line, but still affordable. So I think
it was my price point that hit well for parents
because I knew as a parent, my kids would wear clothes,
whether they're high quality or not, they're going to ruin them.
And I don't want to spend eighty dollars on a
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dress for my kid. It's just not going to happen.
I think I just found a niche market. And then
being that we had the trust of like Tyson's fan
base as well, and we kind of knew Rodeo, it
just honestly, it was definitely a god thing. And I
know why the door closed in Nashville now so clearly
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because I wouldn't have the buckles, I wouldn't have the clothing.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
And I got to do music.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I got to do all the things in my wildest dreams,
and so that was a huge blessing. But I still
did feel like something was missing. I know, when you
have kids and you may have felt like this, you
lose your identity again a little bit. I put a
lot of time and energy into the kids. I didn't
focus on my own health. I always looked good, but
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I didn't focus on my health and feeling like young
and fresh. I just felt like I was just aging
and I was just boring, and it was like, I
don't I don't want this. So I really started focusing
my putting an hour aside a day on me and
Tyson even noticed it one day. He's like, man, You're like,
you've got more energy than you did when you were twenty,
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Like what is going on? But again I sat a
lie myself. I started to focus on getting like myself
back because I knew if I could do that, it
would revel for my kids and my family. And that's
then I was like I had confidence again. I thought, well,
even if I fail, why not start releasing music again.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Obviously I'm not doing it with a label. I'm gonna
do it independent and do it.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
My way solely so my girls and our sun can
see me perform because they watch, you know, it's so cute.
I catch them watching YouTube videos and stuff like they
really love that side and they never got to see it.
So being able to do shows or shoot music videos.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
They just they love it.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
And honestly, I said to my husband Tython, but that's
all that comes out of that.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Obviously, we have bigger.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Plans and my music's doing well back home in Australia
again because I have a following there. But if it's
just to show my girls that hey, you can be
in your thirties and still do this, well it was
it was worth.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
You know, doing it again. In my opinion, that's so awesome.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Okay, I have so many questions. I got to I
got to break a few of this down. First off,
when did you decide that you're going to say yes
to Tyson when he asked you on a date? Like,
how did you say yes? And then did y'all immediately
get serious and get married? Because he was ready, he'd
been waiting for you the whole time. How did you
decide that you're gonna say ask? And what was your
first day?
Speaker 2 (27:13):
So he finally got my phone number because I needed
tickets to a rodeo. I had to message him cause
my parents were coming over and they needed tickets to
sold out rodeo and I was like, hey, so do
you have tickets to this rodeo at all, and poor
guy he did and he said yes, And he said yes,
but you're going to go to dinner with me?
Speaker 3 (27:33):
And I said, I want new dinner. I'll do breakfast.
It's way less sexual. So we did breakfast.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
And I knew then I would probably end up marrying him.
Why because he had all the qualities you'd want to marry.
He was successful, he was smart, he was confident enough.
He wasn't going to be like concerned me out on
the road or other guys talking to me like he
had his own I don't know the right word.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
He just he was confident enough, he didn't care.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Hit his own swagger, hit his own career, and he was.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
The nice guy.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
But I really liked the business side of Tyson as well.
I will say that because I was always very business minded,
and I knew that if somebody was going to keep
up in life, they'd have to be more than just
I wrote your cowboy, because once you were retired, like anything,
you then what.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
So I knew he was going to have to have
a what after that.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
We dated for.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I'm trying to think here.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
We dated for about a year and I literally was
just going like, hey, you've got to ask my dad
if he can date me, because my dad's like, me
and my dad are like tight. So if my dad
won't even let you date me, this is pointless. So
I actually made him ask my dad to even date me,
which is hilarious because that's only a marriage question.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
But anyway, he did it.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
What did your dad say?
Speaker 2 (28:51):
My Dad's like, sure, cool, he probably thought.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
This was a great choice.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
He did because my dad rodeos. So my dad's like, yeah,
he's successful, he's.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Nice, so he's a champion, he's got a good character.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
And then ten months, like we dated for a year
and then we got engaged. Ten months later, we were married,
so we knew. I mean, I wasn't ever any in
a position that I was like, I'm a dated guy
for four years and get married. I just I had
I think I was. I was only twenty four. I
think when I got married, I was still young. But
I think that's why it took so long to say
yes to him, because I was twenty one living my
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high life, Like why would I want to, like admit
when I knew it was married that young? But you know,
and we've had we have a fabulous marriage. But we've
had struggles too, Like Tyson retired a few years ago.
For a time period, it's so weird. Sorry, he retired.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
He was just over being gone on the road, never home.
It was a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
He had made the finals fourteen times, won the world,
so he was he just need a break. So we
sold everything, all these horses a trailers. He was completely retired.
But like any athlete when they retire, it's like me
with music, when when I lost my deal, then what
like you lose your identity.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
So he struggled for I mean, he'll tell you he struggled.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
It was a tough year and a half when he
retired because he didn't know everything he was trying wasn't
being successful and he was so used to being successful,
and so you know, we we stuck together, but it
was you know, it wasn't a easy two years.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Those valleys are hard, Michael, and I've been through those too,
and it's like it will test you and test you personally,
and I'll test your marriage and I'll test everything. But
it's incredible when you get the other side because then
you're like, wow, we we survived this.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Bit, I know exactly, And you know we had and
It's funny because Tyson had finally gotten okay with the
concept of being retired. And then I got back into
music and I was doing an interview and I was like,
tessan't I left him. I never had left the kids.
I was like, I let tyes it home with the
kids for two days, and oh, funny, he's gonna un retire.
And I took it as a joke, and then literally, girl,
two weeks later, he's like, you know, I think I
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want to retire. I think I'm like, are you kidding?
I literally just said that in an interview, Like I
know him so well. So then he's forty two unretiring
and we went out this year as a family on
the road. In the summer, he unretired. He almost made
the national finals, only competing for four months of the
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twelve month season.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
He had a great year.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
It's probably nice of a break that he came back
totally rejuvenating and refreshed.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
So he says he's rodeoing again this year and he
wants to make the finals and win a world title
one more time. And he says that then he will
have peace knowing that he is completely done and he's
ready to retire, which I agree, and I said, hey,
I feel like when that time comes, so many doors
will open up because I'm a big believer that if
God's not done with you somewhere, he's not going to
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open up a door somewhere else, because that's stopping you
from what he needs you to keep doing. Sometimes we
make choices that you know, He's like, hey, I'm not
ready for you to do that yet. So I believe
when Tyson retires the next time, he's going to be
able to do all the business benches and all the
great stuff he wants to do.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
I just don't think it was his time.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Yes he is, he close, but he's not ready.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
He wasn't ready. So yeah, anyway, so yeah, we're busy
with him.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Rodeoing and me back into music and the businesses. We
we just really try and keep We try to go
more than a week two weeks not seeing each.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Are you there?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah, I don't know what happened, but I'm back.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Wait you go two weeks? So well? Are you will
all switch off with the kids or are you always
with the kids that they come with you? Are your
kids homeschool? They're in school? Yeah? How do they stay
in school without crazy travel schedule.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Well, you know what it's like.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Most of the travel. Hey, I live on a ranch,
is like a fly going somewhere around here. If I
see it, roll with it.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
I love it. I love it. I love me. I'm
from Texas. I'm from Waco, Texas. I love Texas great.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
So our kids go to a small private school, little
Christian school, which is great because they're super flexible with schoolwork.
But most of the travel, honestly, like with singing too,
it's over the summer, so it's great. I mean, we
may go for a week here or there, but mainly
over the summer, and we go out for all three
months of the summer pretty much.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Us load up and the kids are coming and you're
either going to rodeos or you're actual playing a lot
of like shows or at rodeos.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
I mean, I think I think part of it is
I look at it as we're creating memories as a family,
especially with rodeo.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
That it's a limited time frame.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
So yes, the kids aren't getting to do the sports
over the summer and the things they got to do when.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
He was retired.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
But he's probably gonna get a radio two more years,
so it's like, why not create these memories. It's honestly
the best time. I love being on the road. I
struggle when we get off the road because we spend
so much time together as a family, and then when
you get home, everybody's going their own directions.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
I'm like, did we talk today? Like I didn't like.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
So it's that's the hardest part coming off the road
because you have so much fun being with family. But
we have you know, my parents live here as well.
They have their green cards, so we have I have,
I have help to juggle everything I'm doing. We all
live on the same ranch, which is a.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Huge parents live on the same ranch as you in Texas.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Yes, it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Way. So are they still involved with rodeoing or like
it's some capacity.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
So my mom is awesome. She's sixty two I think now,
and she still competes.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Bow racing on the pro circuit. So they go out,
my dad and mom go out over the summer and compete.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Wait, your mom competes like against women are in there,
like twenties and stuff. Yeah, and she's a total badass
like that, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Yeah, So she's very very competitive and kind of.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
She's never stopped. No.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Well, so growing up when I had a to say,
handicapped sister who was four years younger. So I give
a lot of credit to having amazing parents because when
she was born, there was five children in the world
with her disorder, and basically her brain didn't develop past
a three month old, so she was meant to live
till five, but lived till eighteen. So for eighteen years,
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my mom had a baby waking up feeding all the
baby stuff.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
So there's only five people in the world.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
It was hell yeah, and I don't know now, but
there was only five in the world when she was born.
So my mom had a baby for eighteen years. Yet
we still traveled to America. My dad rodeoed me and
my brother never missed out on mething. So my mom's
one thing she could do for herself was compete in
rodeos because my sister could come along in the trailer
with earth. So my mom put a lot of time
and energy into that one thing for herself because she
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really was limited to what she could do. But my
parents sacrifice a lot, you know, even when I think
I had to grow up a little earlier, because even
at sixteen being on the road. I couldn't have my
parents with me. We couldn't obviously, my sister couldn't come
to those things, so I had either my brother who
was two years older, or just my manager. So I
had to make smart choices at sixteen by myself. And
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even moving to the US, you know, I had to
just do it because it's not like my family could
move back at the time of my sister. So yeah,
I mean, I think that's kind of it makes you
very You're very thankful for the small things in life.
I think when you grow up with somebody that is
handicapping your family.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
But we were bless me. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
She lived till eighteen and was meant to live till five,
So it was definitely part of what's made you know,
how I am and my parents the way they are.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
For sure, How did that impact you?
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I think you know, it was just so to me.
I just looked at her as a normal little girl.
Obviously if people I used to it used to bother
me when people would walk past and stare, So I
will never stare at a handicapped child or person. If anything,
I'll go up and I'll say hi and not be
awkward because I just know the feeling, and people don't
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do it to be mean. Nobody does it to be mean.
It catches your eye because they just don't look the
exact same as everybody else. So I never was mad
at people. I just didn't like it. So I'm very
aware of my surroundings. I did a lot of stuff
with I would go to a lot of schools, especial
needs schools, and then I would donate to families with
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handicapped children. So it definitely made me more involved in
that and aware of it of families that needed help
because they're you know, the reason my parents they created
a business from her because they both couldn't go to work.
So you have to make a lot of sacrifices as
a parent with a handicapped child. But it's made me
a lot more involved in that area with fundraisers and
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things like that.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
But did your dad continue rodeoing or did he stop
as well because your mom took a break for eighteen years.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
No, No, she kept rodeoing that.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Yeah, that was her one outlet.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Yeah, so I remember, so she was four years younger.
So when we moved to America when I was nine,
my sister was five, so my parents brought us all
to America, including my sister and rodeoed here. Obviously, they
could have taken the way out of this is too
too hard basket, we don't want to travel the US
and the world with a handicapped child, which a lot
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of people would say, but they chose to say, no,
We're going to go out and keep pushing for our
dreams and live a life and bring her along with us.
And I think that's why she lived till eighteen, because
we didn't sit home in a house. We were out
making memories still, whether it was harder or not. But
but yeah, I mean, I think that you can choose.
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You can choose the easy way out, or you can
just and I think that's why I was the way.
I was very determined at a young age because I
seen my parents. They didn't care how hard it was.
They were going to do it. But yeah, we traveled
the world with my sister. We've been to Japan, America, Mexico,
all these countries with her, and she just would come along.
And my mom never wanted to put her in like
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a wheelchair, so she had like a big oversized stroller,
which still looked funny anyway, I mean, obviously, but it
was like for her mindset, my mom was like, well,
she's in a stroller, not a wheelchair. So my parents
were fabulous and they are still fabulous. But seeing my
mom now come into her shell of being able to
compete to the level she wants to and then be
here in the US with the grandkids, and it's really
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nice because there was a period of time that they
didn't have the ability to do all the things that they,
you know, per se potentially could have done.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
So the Cowboy code is really something strong, isn't it.
What is that like? What is this ethics in this
code that you because like I just feel like hard work, determination, grit, perseverance,
like loyalty, following through with your commitments, like doing hard things.
It just feels like it's like such an incredible mindset.
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How would you describe it?
Speaker 2 (39:28):
It really is, And I think that's why it's so
big in today's culture.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
I mean, we're missing it.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
We are now. To me, when I think of cowboy,
I think of the shake of a hand. You say something,
your word's true. You don't need a contract if you
say something to somebody going to stick through your word
cowboy culture is being able to get knocked down and
get back up, whether it's the this is you know,
a cliche, but you get buffed up a horse, you
get back on. You can't let the horse win, you know.
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So there's a lot of things that you take those
in life lessons. The cowboy culture is responsibility at a
young age. At a young age, we're outfeeding horses before
we feed ourselves, where we're taking care, we have responsibilities.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
So I do think, and that's why I've.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Wanted to keep my kids in that culture for so
long and in my you know, growing up, because I
do think it took sheches, work, ethic, It teaches responsibility,
being genuine to your word. Now there's some cowboy culture
that's wild and has fun, but that's all part of it.
But I really do think that that's what's missing in
today's society, and I think that's why people are leaning
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more back to the cowboy culture, more so now than ever,
because I do, like you said, I do think we're
missing it, yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Because otherwise you're just floating around. You don't know what
you stand for, you don't know what you believe in,
you don't know what's right or wrong. Everything's up for grabs.
But when you have these this ethical code that you
live by, it's.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Old school, you know, yeah, and don't I don't judge
other parents, but for for us, like we didn't have
cell phones at twelve. I mean, so for like my
our poor children, I just probably not gonna like me
when they're old.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
But like, I'm like, you don't need a phone.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
So you're sixteen and you're driving, because you're gonna either
be like hanging out, Like we want our place to
be the best place. All the kids come here, or
you know, if you're going somewhere else, we'll be with you.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
We're doing things.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
A lot of a lot of the cowboy culture is family,
so a lot of the you know, we stay together
as a family. So I'm a little bit, you know,
I'm like, I don't I can have a cell phone.
Thanks for not going to have social media because I
was on it way too young. And I I think,
I you know, I know I was a good girl,
and I know the messages you get, and I know
what comes across there, and I you know, even back
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when we were younger, I struggle with my own like
personal self, you know, self esteem and all that, and
I cannot imagine today's society with these kids. So I'm
just I want to try and keep my kids as
protected and and old school as possible as long as
I can.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
So when did you officially launch back into music? Like
when was the When did you say? How long ago
was it? It wasn't very long ago?
Speaker 2 (41:59):
No, so early twenty four? So so last year? Yeah? Yeah,
so two years ago basically, well, because it's the end
of twenty five.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
My daughter, our oldest, who's down nine, said.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
To me, she said, Mom, I've never seen you perform before, like,
and I was like, well you have, you were just
too young to remember.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
And she says, why don't you do it anymore?
Speaker 2 (42:20):
And I honestly didn't have a good answer, But like
when I started thinking about it, my honest true answer.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Was I don't want to fail.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
And I don't know if anybody cares to hear my
music anymore. Now I'm in my thirties. I mean I
was young when I was singing. Do I want to
do this independently? Like this is a big commitment? Is
it worth my time? And when I started putting all
those things like thoughts in my mind, I was like,
this isn't the way I've been taught to think, Like
why am I thinking like this? This isn't a good reason,
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this is a terrible reason. So then I, you know,
I said to praise. I said, well, do you want
me to get back singing?
Speaker 1 (42:55):
How what's your daughter saying?
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Praise?
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Like praise?
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Yeah, there are other kids names.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Risen is our daughter, like Jesus is Risthan.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
And then now sign's a cowboy name.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
His name's Tyan, like ty in a calf, my husband says,
but it means heaven in another language.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Best.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
So God is first and foremost with you guys. Yeah,
so man, okay, praise. I love the suit. You told praise.
You don't have a good reason.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
I said, hey, do you do you want me to
do this?
Speaker 2 (43:23):
I said, this means I'm going to be like because
I had never left my kids do everything with us.
I was like, there's gonna be times when I had
to go for a couple of days. It's just a
big commitment, like are you down? And she was like, yeah,
how want you to do it?
Speaker 3 (43:33):
This'd be great? Like okay, So then I, you know,
I said, I was like, hey, you're retiring.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Probably it's now whenever you know you're gonna be home more,
I probably have the ability to do that because I
never wanted to. You know, my kids and my family
was always first for my career has always had been,
so I didn't want to, like I need to make
sure everybody was on board, and everyone was.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
And I had these songs I had recorded.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
I mean like I had taken Me Back to Texas,
which I wrote with Jesse Joe Dillon years ago and now,
and then I had had another song called Alan Cowboy.
Used to write a lot with Walker Hayes. He's a
good friend. So I had all these songs that were
great songs just sitting there and I had already recorded them.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
They just went to that one's out Alan Cowboy, right yep.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
And I had recorded that back with Walker when we
wrote it. And I was like, I got these songs
sitting here. There's literally no reason I can't release them.
So when I started posting on social again and being like, yeah,
I think I'm going to get back into it. I
when I was well known in Australia, it was MySpace,
so none of my followers had came over because then
there was Instagram and Facebook. So for the longest time,
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I had thirty thousand follows on Instagram, it just wasn't
enough to base the career off. But then when I
started being more honest about like, Okay, here's my insecurities
or here's the true behind the scenes of what it's like,
and this is what I want to do on a
show that you can be a thirty something year old
woman and still you know, start back in your dreams.
The women and people just just gravitated towards it. It
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was honestly mine blowing seeing how much people were getting
behind it.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
I grew like half a million followers in like six months.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
It was from saying honest.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
I don't know, I'm guessing, or I say to my husband.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
People from Australia realized I was doing music again and
started following me. But I went from thirty thousand followers
to like six hundred thousand followers in like a year.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
And it was crazy because.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
I was like, Okay, well, God, maybe this is what
I meant to do again because people are seeming to
like it. So then I just started putting a few
songs out and they were doing well. I was getting
good streams, good views, and I was like you know what,
I'm just going to shoot three music videos at once
because then I'm committed. Then I've got to do it
because I need to be committed.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
So I did.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
I flew my Australian music music video director over and
he shot three videos in Texas in two weeks and
they was like, Okay, now i have a year's worth
of music, So I'm going to do it. And I've
released two of I've released two of those three songs
as another another one I'll release next year. But then
I you know, I just hired a good team back
home in Australia, people I had worked with in the
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past or radio promo and started releasing the music back home,
and it was, you know, it was doing really good,
does really well there.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
And so I'm just honestly having fun doing it.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
If anything, I'm being inspirational to other women and showing
young girls.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
You know, a good example.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
But I don't know what it looks like, you know,
whether it's these three songs and then God opens some
other doors and closed this music again.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
But but either way I will feel like I have.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
I felt like I wasn't finished at the time, but
now I feel it feel like Okay, I've you know,
I've done that again.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
I've shown my girls I've but you never know, You
just don't. You just never know.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
It's such a funny industry, the music industry. You can
be We've both got friends that you know, we're playing
to two hundred people at bars and then two months
later we're on tourism selling out. It's just it's insane
with the internet in today's time. It's it really is
mind blowing how it's all changed so much since I
first started.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
So how I love that you just kind of let
faith lead you and like you follow your intuition and
the internal guidance. How does God speak to you? How
do you know when it's time for the door to open?
And how do you know when it's time to for
a door to close? Like? What does that feel like?
How does it line up when you know it's like
a time for a change.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
I don't. I don't hear like a like a physical
voice like people say they hear and stuff like that.
I just feel like I trust the process in his process.
Sometimes I'm not gonna lie. Our door closes and I'm
like ouch, that hurt. That does not make any sense.
I don't think you were meant to close that door, Like,
are you sure?
Speaker 1 (47:41):
You know?
Speaker 2 (47:41):
When I have an internal battle, But then I have
to sit back and be like, Okay, I'm just gonna
trust that. I just got to keep doing my part
and then I'll be guided to the right the right steps. Obviously,
we try and live a good life and.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
We're not perfect. I'm not perfect. I make stupid choices,
you know, over the years.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
But I think if you're living a certain way and
you're you're open to accepting the hard hits when the
door's closed, you can see when the right door opens again,
because there's doors that open sometimes and aren't the right doors.
But I think you have to use your own intuition
of is this what I should be doing, how does
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this line up with my morals or how does this
line up with with my family dynamic.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
I have a lot of goals and dreams too.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
I mean, I would love to be I mean, I've
always wrote it, but I would love to be the
first girl from Australia to qualify for the national finals
one day. But that's a huge commitment because I know
what it takes to get there. I've seen the amount
of miles my husband does.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
So you want to get back into rodeoing too, I will.
Speaker 3 (48:47):
No bow racing. I'd like to do some time.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
Make the national finals always been a goal. No women
have done it from Australia. But also that doesn't line
up with our family right now, there's just no way
I can. I'm going to keep doing music and the
businesses until I feel like, okay, now it's the time.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
So patience is a virtue and I don't have much
of it sometimes, but I really because.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
You have a lot to do. You've got a lot
of big goals I mean, Shay, and time of it,
but like doing music, barrel racing on this level, raising
three kids, being a wife to a world champion, being
a daughter of world champions. You being like so successful yourself.
I mean you have a lot being on a farm,
keeping up with all your animals and maintaining that You've
(49:31):
got a lot, your fashion, your clothing line. I mean
you're non stop, Shay. Are you just an energizer bunny?
Do you have tons of bandwidth?
Speaker 3 (49:39):
I do?
Speaker 2 (49:40):
My husband's said that, like I honestly, I get up
at well, I get about probably four forty five to five,
So I can have a little bit of many time,
and I'll go and just get on the treadmill for
thirty minutes and have some power walking me time and
before the kids wake up, because otherwise I'm not saying
exercise makes me happy.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
That's why I have to get that.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
I have a fitness group for women where you know,
when I learned the tricks about getting my body back
and the foods and like the reset that I did
to get my body back after out there child because
he was hard on me.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
I shared it and I had a fitness group.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
I have a lot of women in the group, but
I'm like, I'm exercising anyway. It doesn't hurt me to
post this stuff and it help other people. So I
do and coffee, coffee and exercise keep me energized. See
that should be an ad like a slogan, right.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
Yeah, and you have like an eight pack, so it's
working well.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
Sometimes I ate too much chocolate or like I'll splurge.
I'll have a week where I'm like, you know what,
I'm just gonna enjoy food and it's okay because I
know next week I'll reset and then I've got it.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
I mean, I think it's everything in moderations.
Speaker 3 (50:48):
I mean, we cannot be perfect.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
If we're gonna pretend that we're perfect all the time,
it's just not going to work in life. And I
think it's important to also we try. Our kids have
very high expectations for themselves, but we do try and
show them like, hey, we screw up to we're not perfect.
You don't have the perfect twenty four to seven. Because
I think in any probably with your kids too, you'll
notice it. But any kids that have like high achieving parents,
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it's very hard for them not to want to be
like that. But that's a really that's a lot of
pressure at a young age.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
So big shadows of phil Phil it is.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
And we don't want to our kids to feel like that.
They already feel like that, whether we try to or not.
So we really try and push like, hey it's okay,
Like you can be bad at something. I promise you
didn't see any of it.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
Okay, Chay, you're so amazing. This is so interesting. It's
so cool to get to peek into your life. You
just have so much going on. Tell everyone where they
can follow you, where they can find you, what we
need to be following along with, Like just keep it
give us all the deats on what we need to
know keeping up with you.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
Yeah, so social media obviously, I have Instagram, Facebook, all
the stuff I have TikTok, But girl, I am.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
Not cool enough with the same I just so I
want to I'm.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
Like, no, I'm good sostag my main deal on Facebook,
but I have my website which is Shaefisher dot com.
But yeah, you can follow along with that whole family. Tyson,
my real last name, like married name is Durfy, but
I still go through music.
Speaker 3 (52:13):
But so it's Tyson. Durfy's my husband, and.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
He dropped some good wisdom. I was on his page
and he is like dropping some nuggets of like cowboy wisdom,
and like it's some good stuff over there too. Yeah
a couple.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
Yeah, y'all follow us and we still read our messages
where we still do all that. And then I am
going to send your kids some super cool clothes and
the next time I'm in Nashville, we're going to hang out,
because yes, maybe.
Speaker 3 (52:36):
We can get a babysitter and hang out like.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
I would love that, Shaye, I love that so much.
And you're in Texas where in dripping Springs? Is that
where you are like, right.
Speaker 3 (52:44):
Oh, that's where I got married.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
No, we're in near full Worth now, so near Weather, Texas.
Speaker 3 (52:48):
But they have a big.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
Rodeo in Nashville and May the big one they had
last year.
Speaker 1 (52:53):
We want to come and hang out and see you.
Speaker 2 (52:55):
Y'all need to come because tysonbly competing and so much fun.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
I never rodeo. Please, oh my gosh, please please please Yeah, Shay,
You're so awesome. This was so fun and thanks for
bearing with me, like technological issues and my lasered face off.
So I mean, it's just you know, lot going.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
You're a person for the lasers, so I'm gonna leave
that to you.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
Oh my gosh. I always wrap up with leave your light,
and it's basically just drop some inspiration that you want
people to know.
Speaker 2 (53:25):
No dreams too big. Failure is just a stepping stone
to success. So if you fail, you need to pick
yourself back up because you have to be a great
loser as well. And I would say my last piece
of advice is love.
Speaker 3 (53:40):
Who you are, be confident in who you are.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
Don't compare yourself to other people because it is a
terrible thing to do, and don't believe everything is see
on social media because we don't all look perfect.
Speaker 3 (53:49):
There's just a lot of filters we use a man.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
Thank you so much, Shay for joining me. This was
so fun. I'm so glad I got to know you.
I feel like I've known of you for so long
and I'm so glad I've gotten to finally get to
know you and like see what you're all about. You're
so awesome, You've got so much going on, it's so exciting.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
Yes, we will have to just make a trip. If not,
we'll see you in May at the Rodeo.
Speaker 1 (54:11):
Okay, okay, can't wait. Bye, Shay, Thank you,
Cary Lone.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
She's a queen and talking and you. So she's getting
really not afraid.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
To feel this episode, so just let it flow.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
No one can do we quiet, cary Lone, It sound
like carolund.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I am so happy to be here with Shane Fisher,
and you're just a vision. You are so beautiful and
put together and you're helping me. Are you there? Did
you freeze? Oh no, she froze, She froze. Wait are
you there?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Close?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I okay, shay, this is this is how I feel
right now. I'm a little bit of a hot mess.
Express I just my face lasered off. It's so it's
coming back. It's looking a little scary. You are so gorgeous,
you are so talented. You've had such a big life
for so long, like you have been doing it for
a long time.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Just looking like this girl.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
This is all this is extra help like, so you.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Look beautiful still. I just said before we go on here, I'm.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Too scared to lasa.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
So yeah, I could not.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I could not do it. I couldn't handily like craziness.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So I get it. It's a it's a it's an undertaking,
for sure. So she came in again, I know it was,
it's been, it's been a process. It's scary. My poor daughter,
I scared her to death. But I'm like, it's fine. Really,
you're from Australia, I am. Yeah, you are like a
star in Australia when you're a teenager. I had.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I had a very interesting upbringing. So my parents are
both Australian champion rodeo athletes.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
So wait, your mom too, what does your mom do?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, she's about race. She won like the Australian world
title competing And honestly, from the time I was born,
I was on a horse. So I didn't grow up
musical or per se entrepreneurial. I grew up in I mean,
my parents are both very successful, but it's in the
rodeo world. And then my parents moved to the US
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when I was nine, and my.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Dad, dad, he's a bull rider.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yep, so he's a bull rider and a bare back rider.
So the horse and the bulls and man, I have
so many stories. I remember his kids like, he did
not have very many injuries, but I remember, you know,
him breaking his arm on bulls and you know, we
we had lots of hospital visits.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
But were you red.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
You know, I remember when he was riding bulls in
the US. I was nine through eleven. We lived here
for a brief period of time. He was on the
PBR circuit and I remember sitting there. I would get
kind of nauseous to my stomach. I won't lie before
he would compete, but obviously I'd always pray with my mom,
and you know, my dad, like I said, he didn't
have a ton of injuries, but yeah, I mean it
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was it was scary as a little girl watching your
dad ride bulls.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Did you hears meet in the rodeo huh?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Well, they were in the western industry together. They got
together very young. They were like sixteen and eighteen when
they started dating. So yeah, they were a little cowgirl cowboy.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
And they fell in love on the rodeo circuit and
then they just travel around and do rodeos together.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
And then as kids came along, first four years of
my life, we didn't have a home base, so we
lived in like our horse trailer between rodeos.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
And then when I that's how.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
You were born, Yeah, on the road, So you lived
in a horse trailer traveling to the rodeo circuits. Was
your first home.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yeah, it was a cool.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Lighte Was it cool? Was it hard? Did you like it?
Was it stressful? Did you know that this is a
different lifestyle?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I think I was so young, but I put myself
in my mom's shoes now, and I'm like, can you
just imagine having three kids on the road, living in
a horse trailer. So like we go out with my
husband or we're on two or whatever, and we're all
on buses and we're like, Okay, this is just a
few months of the year. But if you lived on
that for four years, I feel like I would not
be near as put together as my mom is. Like
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she did well to handle it, but it was we
didn't really know any different. I mean that was I
think if you don't know any different.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
As a kid, but just used of that lifestyles. It's
what they were born into.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
So did you get into rodeoing as a kid?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I did so I yeah, I would bowl, race and
then breakaway rope. And then when I was fourteen, I
there was an event that was called the All Round.
So the guys, the younger boys could compete in all
the events, even the ones that I thought were girly events.
They could still compete in them, but we weren't really
able to compete in the bull riding. So I always
thought it was so unfair because I would never win
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like the big all round prize.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
And I remember I was fourteen.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I said to my dad like, kN girls bu right,
and my dad was like, well, let me check the rules,
and so checked me.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I was the first girl. Oh you did not in
the junior bul riding.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I did, But part of me, deep down now I
think about it, I'm like, my parents were very strict
and it was great, but I think it was a
great excuse to be able to talk to all the boys
because I was allowed to go like behind the shoots
and hang out with the guys and it wasn't weird.
So deep down it was polly so I could talk
to the cute cowboys. But then I really wanted to win.
But for two years I wrote bolts.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
So you decided to bull ride to talk to the boys.
That is a bold move. I mean, you were a
tough girl. Did you train? Did you know how to
write a bull? Does your dad give you a lesson
like this? Did you stay on the bull? Like how
did it go? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
So I don't do anything half, So my dad actually
don't do any day half.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
No.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
My dad used to coach a bunch of younger cowboys,
so he had like the bucking machine at home. So
one summer for three months he trained me, and I
remember the first time I went to compete, like the
guys kind of chuckled when I went behind the shoots,
but I knew me and my dad knew that, like,
there was no way I wasn't gonna do good. Like
I was so trained by that time. I knew all
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the ins and out. I had a world championship me
what to do. So the very first time I ended,
I got third. And then after that, I mean I
did well, Like I think I was athletic enough. I
had a great coach, And it's more about in my opinion,
it's more about form than size. You don't want to
be a bullwriter and be like a big person anyway,
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So it was perfect for me.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
I was agile and young and fit.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I got some great growing muscles, like my inner thigh
muscles were so dang strung by the end of my
whole two year bull writing Korea, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
You two years, yes.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
And then I got signed a record deal and my
label's like yeah, no, Like this was great to talk
about in like interviews, but no more because we don't
want to broke an arm or bang black eye. So
they made me quit.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
What I feel like that would have been so cool
if you'd have done bull riding and had a record deal.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah no they were They're like, nope, can't do it.
So I had to give up my career and my
talking to boys stage.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
But I mean, you were definitely the coolest, most, the
toughest girl out there were all the boys trying to
date you, all the bull rider boys trying to date you. No.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
I think they were too scared of my dad, so
it doesn't really work to my benefits because they were like, yeah, no,
we're not gonna her dad's at the time.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
My dad's Eddie Fisher, and they all knew who he was,
so I.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Think he's like a world champion. He is.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And he used to judge too, and it was terrible
because he would never give me a good score because
he would never want to give me extra points.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
So I hated when he was the judge.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
But that's another reason the young boys didn't talk to
me much because they were like, if we start dating
his daughter.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Then we won't we won't get scored good.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
So it worked out my parents' benefit, not mine.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
So how did you get involved in music? Because you
grow up on the rodeo circuit. You're a freaking bull
rider as a woman, I mean, crushing the game for
two years. You So your parents moved to America for
a little while though, to pursue because they crushed Australia
and so they need they were going to just go
and take over America now as world champions because you
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got to get another market.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah, so Rody was speaking Australia, but there was so
much money to be one in the US. So my
parents moved to the US, moved the whole family when
I was nine. We lived here for two years, and
that's honestly where I first fell in love with music.
I mean it was the nineties. Who didn't love country
music In the nineties. We did a lot of miles
in a truck driving between rodeos, so I got to
listen to the radio so much. So then I thought
(08:35):
when I thought I moved home to Australia and I
was like, I'm Missinger, It's gonna great. But it wasn't
always that you know, always ups for me. I started
entering talent quest and they did not like me. I
didn't real I was too American, I didn't look at
I was too cowgirl. I just didn't fit the mold
(08:55):
of the industry, the talent quest industry at the time.
But then I thought, okay, well I'll just quit that
and I'll start singing national anthem rodeos. So I would
riding the ring on my horse and sing the national anthem,
and I kind of liked it more because the crowds
are bigger, and I always liked the bigger crowds.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
I was like, this is great, and you always get
a huge applause afterwards.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I'm sure, yes, even if it's terrible, they're again to clap.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
It's the anthem, so see.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
The anthem is also the hardest thing to sing, so
way to just like throw yourself into the fire.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, it's not as these tryin ones, not near as
hard to see Mary can one. But it's still one
of those songs if you mess up, can be major
lea not a great deal, but I remember being kind
of My big break came when I was at a roadier.
I was competing and my parents were competing as well,
and there was a big two of US pop today
(09:45):
with big stage, and obviously knew it was someone famous,
because you don't have a too bus in stage if
you weren't back then. So I said to my dad, Hey,
can I go knock on this too bus door and
see who this is? Maybe they want me to sing
before them.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
And you're so confident years old.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I knocked on this two of US door and the
men at the actual act came to the door. His
name was Steve Ford and he was one of our
number one artists Astray at the time, and he came
to the door thankfully for me. He loved rodeos, so
he knew who my dad was. And I was like, hey,
do you need a support act. He's like, oh, I
feel so brave.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Oh you're writing bulls. That's how I know how you're
so brave.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Okay, No, I think that I just always lived life
of like if you don't try, like the worst thing
that can happen is you can fail or they say no.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
That was always like that.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I failed a lot, but then I didn't care because
I just found the reasons that I was succeeding, whether
it was rodeo or whatever I mean, and I wasn't.
It's not like I grew up always getting yeses. I
wasn't cool at school, which I didn't care about because
I took that as Okay, I'm different. This is going
to be used in my benefit one day. But I
remember when I went to the two bus door, he
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said his support act was sick. Asked if I had
a band, I said nope, but I have karaoke CDs,
CDs back then the way to make us feel old,
he put me on stage girl.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
It was two hours of four his show.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
There was three people in the audience and two were
my parents, but I performed like there was ten thousand
people there and he happened to be watching from his
two of us. So then he said to my parents, Hey,
I've got formal shows on my tour that I don't
have a support act for. Would your daughter like to
come and be my opening act? So my parents said yes,
I'm fourteen, and from there Steve became my manager and
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took me on his next Austrayan tour. I mean I
only had cover songs then, but we wrote my first
album together and him and my parents funded my first
album we flew to the US. We recorded in Nashville,
and then we came home and started pitching to labels.
Now that was kind of a big shot, Like we
knew that it was a long shot, I should say,
because there weren't Australia didn't have a young country music acts.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
But we thought, well, we'll just start at the top and.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Go down and crazy enough, at sixteen, I signed with
ABC Universal, which was one of our four major record
deals like record companies, and I had no idea what
I was doing. I was a cowgirl and they say,
like fake it to you make it, and I did.
But one thing that we did that was so smart,
and I know a lot of people do it now,
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is it's all about the persona. So like when I
was going out as sixteen and nobody knew who I was.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
My manager, I had two of us, had a big stage.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
So I'd go to these towns and people wouldn't know
who I was, but they would be like, oh, we
must be missing out who is this girl? And I
formed a fan base really quickly doing that, and I
just was different. I wore my cowgirl hat when I sang,
I did not sound like Kerry Underwood.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
I was a good vocalist.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I wasn't a great vocalist, but I was a great performer.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
So I just kept doing that.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
And then by the time I was like seventeen, I
was doing my own Israelian tour and it felt like everything,
it felt like the sky was limit now.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I worked really hard and I was very focused.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I felt like at that age it was a lot
of pressure because I couldn't hold a red solo cup
even if it had water in it, because eyeballs would
think it was alcoholic. Had been very, very smart about
my choices because my mark it was young girls, not Disney,
but kind of that in between Disney and real country music.
So then at twenty years old, I was in Australia
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competing at a rodeo and I got a phone call
which I thought was spam, and it was a guy
named James Stroud, which you.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
May know James.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I know James Stroud, and.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
He was starting his record label called Stroudivarius.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
So he had heard my music getting mastered, my second
album getting mastered in a studio in Nashville, and he
had walked in with Richard Landis was doing it at
the time, and so Jane is like, hey, I need
this girl. So he called me and he's like, hey,
can you fly to America next week? I want to
meet one off your record deal.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I'm like, do what.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I'm like, I like, I couldn't even put it together.
I'm like, how do you heading out my number?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Like?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
It was so confusing, But my dad.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
And me got on a plane and we flew to
the States and went with James and he said, you've
got if you sign, you've got two weeks because we've
got to get you on radio touring and get your
song out before XYZ song comes out. So I picked
up and moved and I was having number ones.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I mean, I was doing great in Australia.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
But we're on the radio having number ones in Australia.
So you were having a big career in Australia.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
But I knew that, like I only could go so
far there, and I knew as a little girl ever,
I always dreamed of being able to be in America.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I always I always dreamed of more.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Now number ones is amazing, and that was great, but
I felt like I had kind of done what I
wanted in Australia.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
So I took the leap of faith.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I moved seven guys over with me, my brand, Me
and seven guys lived in a house at Hendersonville on
the Lake.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
And drop it. You lived with your whole band?
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Oh yeah, me and the boys.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I'm were you dating? Were you dating any of them?
Or they all just doing no brothers? Oh so you
just you can just hang with the guys. You've been
one of the guys form your whole life. Huh. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
It was great because I didn't feel like I was
just moving into a strange country by myself. Like I
literally packed up my guys who had been on too it.
Then we just all moved together and the record label
handled it.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
They paid for it.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
They were like, yeah, this is great because they wanted
to take We did an acoustic radio tool, but we
had three band members doing it, so it was it
wasn't like your standard just one player. So we all
packed up and we're on the bus and we did
a three month radio two around the States. And then
right when my song came out, which it was an
odd first choice, it had a cheerleading chance on it,
and the record label like take the hat off, remove
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the boots, put the heels on, like Trey Fanjoy shot
the music video.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
It was wonderful, but they kind of started changing who
you were.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Oh completely. But I was like, okay, well, I'm this
is your deal. I'm gonna trust you with it.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
And the problem, I think, like that's the problem is
they get they seeing you for what you are in
your element, as your true self, and then they're like,
let's just take you and just twist it around on
and mold you and change it a little bit and
fit you into the mold.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Yeah, you would be so surprised that you went back
and listened to it was called Don't Chase Me, and
the song did great. The music video was like I'd
always looked up to Trey Fanjoy and for those that
don't know, she shot Love Story of Taylor Swift all
of Miranda Lamb.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
But she's an incredible director.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
So that was great. But where it all kind of
went spiraling down for me was I had done radio tour,
my song came out and had been out for about
a week. It was doing really well, was top third
added song, and then a label shut down. Oh Nonny
Gillies had there was funds got stopped, so the.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Label shuts down.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I get a phone call they're like, hey, the record
label shut down today, like literally that's it.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
And I'm like, so I was still in a record deal.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
I couldn't really get out of it because I still
contracted in until it was actually officially shut down.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
So I was in very much in limbo.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
And that's where I had to decide, like, hey, do
I move home to Australia and continue my career. I
did have to send on my band home, but I
felt deep down that like I was brought here for
a reason, like I feel like doors open for a reason.
And I wasn't ready to give up on I didn't
know what it looked like. I know, if it was
music or business or my husband or whatever.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
But I started. I mean, I knew I had to
pay my bills.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
So I started a company, which was a silversmith company,
and my parents had done that in Australia, and I
would cold call like Rodeo Associations. I was trying to
see if I had a buckle here. But we make
like buckle. We actually made Ala Lanley a buckle for
the CMA Awards just a couple of days ago.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I suddenly I also made President Trump a buckle too.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yeah, that's amazing little company.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I would sit at Panera Bread, but I always had
work ethic. I would literally songwrite during the day and
then I go sit at Panera Bread by myself, which
I was fine with, and cold call these rodeo associations
trying to see if they would give me a shot,
because I knew I had to make thirty thousand dollars
to pay for my house and to live in the
States until I figured out what I was going to
do it. And the first year I actually made ride
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that and then I just was lonely. So I kept
started going back and forth to Texas. And that's kind
of how Tyson came in the picture and I met.
I met my husband was when I was visiting Texas
on my why Texas?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Why are you going back and forth to Texas?
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Because I felt like it felt more like home. You know,
I grew up Rodeo. The people were more like the
people I was surrounded by. We had had some you know,
I had some friends from when my parents lived there
when we were younger.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
And I could just get on a horse. You know.
Even when I was living in this city.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
I still would go out to Kicksbrooks's ranch and ride
horses and stuff. I just could never like put that
part of me aside. It was always like that was
my like relaxation, how I could breathe.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
So were you upset that you that you gave up
rodeoing for the record label and then the record label
shut down?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
No, what I know, I wasn't because I had achieved
a lot Australia already from that, and I wasn't even
upset that I per se had given away a lot
of my opportunities in austray by moving. The thing that
I found the most was I had found my identity
in being known from music for so many years from
the time I was sixteen, that I had to relearn
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what my identity look like without music because I wasn't
promised to get that again when the record label shut down.
It's a natural was a tough town, like you know,
it's not just promise to you. So I did get
a little bitter on the industry, like I mean, I'm
not gonna lie. For probably three years, I couldn't watch
an award show. I couldn't any of that because I
was sing all my friends that I used to songwright
with and hang out with, having number one songs and
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doing really well, and I was happy for them. I
was so happy for them, but I just felt like
that should be me. So it really wasn't until I
let go of that and found my identity and who
I was that I feel like doors opened up again
with businesses and my husband and everything happens in the
right time.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Everyone goes through seats five.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I always knew I would get back into music now
I'm I was aware it wouldn't be to the extent
of having my own Australian two is in all of that,
like you go through a season with music, but I
knew that i'd always get back into it and get
my love back. I just had to kind of step
away for a little while. I mean, I had been
in it for a decade and just kind of was
a little burnout.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
I think it'll break your heart. Music will really break
your heart, especially when you're so young, because I feel like,
and then you get hooked up in the system and
a record label and it takes everything they it literally
you give your entire existence to it. You pour yourself
into it, and you are the brand, so it's you
are the product, so it's you. So when your record
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label you know, ends and you lose your deal. Then
it's like it's such a personal hit as well, you
know how I think though, like coming up from the
ashes is one of the most incredible things that can
happen to a human being, you know, because when you
hit that breaking point, you either die, you know, you
either quit and you just die and you give up
and you're bitter forever and you you say, it wasn't fair,
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that shouldn't have happened, and you know, you just stay
there or you do what you did, you like, grieve it,
you take some time, and then you re emerge. But
what did you do in that time period when you
lost your identity and had to find your identity as
your true self? And then who actually is your true self?
Take Away the rodeo, take away, the record deals, take
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away the number ones, take away the hit producers and songwriters,
and you know, the tour buses. Who did you find
your real identity to be?
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
I mean, I think first and foremost you have to
learn to love yourself again for not for number one
songs and not for how many magazines come as you've
been on, but truly be able to look in the.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Mirror and love who you are. So that to me
was the journey.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
When I was in Texas, that's where I met my husband.
I was at Houston Rodeo doing some work for clothing
company and I met Tyson. Now I wasn't at the
stage to get married. Tyson was the type of guy
you would marry. He was, I mean he was about
us A world champion. I mean he wasn't world champion,
but he.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Was a winner. But he was a good, nice guy.
And I was like, I haven't really bade him many
of those. I'm not sure ready for a nice guy
like you marry those.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
But I finally, you know, gave in, not gave in
because I'm blessed.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
He stayed persistent, but he was.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Very pissive, and he was pursuing you very much for
like two years before I'd give him my phone number.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I was before you gave him your phone number. You
didn't even give him your number.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Okay, No, I think I was just at such a
weird time in life, you know, And I think, deep down,
I don't think I was ready to be like he
kind of first met me when I was still at
the end of my mute, well the end of that
part of music, so I could like be like, oh, yeah,
I'm super busy, you know, you know, and you kind
of make it for a while. When people ask what
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you're doing, you don't lie, but but you can stretch
the truth and make it still seem like you're important
in your own mind. And I did that for a
while and then one Dale was like, I don't care anymore.
What are you doing well, I'm trying to grow businesses,
you know, a record deal anymore. So I just had
to try and start to be honest with myself and
I noticed that, like I then put my time and
energy in Okay, I want Tyson to be a world champion,
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so I'm gonna be the best wife I can be
to make him as successful as he can be. And
then I was like, okay, now I found in the
market in the Western industry, there was no children's clothing that.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
I really felt was cute.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I felt like there was a big gap in the market.
So I reached out to a lot of major brands,
all the big brands you can think of, and I
was like, Hey, I want to do a kid's clothing line.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Do you want to work with me?
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Now?
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Doing that, you make like five percent. Well they all
said no, So I was like, okay, well, sorry, screw this,
Like I'm gonna do it myself.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I guess I'll do it myself.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
I decided to create a kid's clothing line. In the
first five years, I just had the baby boots and
we did very average. Like Tyson's like, are you sure
you want to put all this time into this because
you're not wasting, but you're spending a lot of time
for what you're making.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
And I was like, I do not quit. I know
this is what I meant to do.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
So I kept going, and then a branch into clothing,
and then our first customer when we did the clothing
was Cavendihs, second was BUCkies, then boot Bonds. So we
were running a business in our garage because we just
got it just blew up so fast.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
And I don't have a degree in business. I don't
have a degree in designing.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
How did you design a clothing? Well?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
I was sick of like Disney clothes. I was like,
like this vest, like you could do a cute version
of this, modifying it so itce more modest for a kid.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Okay, that's what I want to put my kid in
so I would look at.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
My wardrobe and what I would wear, and then I
would design a kid's item based upon that. I didn't
I wanted to keep a clothing line that was like
a stylish Worstern line, but still affordable. So I think
it was my price point that hit well for parents
because I knew as a parent, my kids would wear clothes,
whether they're high quality or not, they're going to ruin them.
And I don't want to spend eighty dollars on a
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dress for my kid. It's just not going to happen.
I think I just found a niche market. And then
being that we had the trust of like Tyson's fan
base as well, and we kind of knew Rodeo, it
just honestly, it was definitely a god thing. And I
know why the door closed in Nashville now so clearly
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because I wouldn't have the buckles, I wouldn't have the clothing.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
And I got to do music.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I got to do all the things in my wildest dreams,
and so that was a huge blessing. But I still
did feel like something was missing. I know, when you
have kids and you may have felt like this, you
lose your identity again a little bit. I put a
lot of time and energy into the kids. I didn't
focus on my own health. I always looked good, but
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I didn't focus on my health and feeling like young
and fresh. I just felt like I was just aging
and I was just boring, and it was like, I
don't I don't want this. So I really started focusing
my putting an hour aside a day on me and
Tyson even noticed it one day. He's like, man, You're like,
you've got more energy than you did when you were twenty,
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Like what is going on? But again I sat a
lie myself. I started to focus on getting like myself
back because I knew if I could do that, it
would revel for my kids and my family. And that's
then I was like I had confidence again. I thought, well,
even if I fail, why not start releasing music again.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Obviously I'm not doing it with a label. I'm gonna
do it independent and do it.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
My way solely so my girls and our sun can
see me perform because they watch, you know, it's so cute.
I catch them watching YouTube videos and stuff like they
really love that side and they never got to see it.
So being able to do shows or shoot music videos.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
They just they love it.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
And honestly, I said to my husband Tython, but that's
all that comes out of that.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Obviously, we have bigger.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Plans and my music's doing well back home in Australia
again because I have a following there. But if it's
just to show my girls that hey, you can be
in your thirties and still do this, well it was
it was worth.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
You know, doing it again. In my opinion, that's so awesome.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Okay, I have so many questions. I got to I
got to break a few of this down. First off,
when did you decide that you're going to say yes
to Tyson when he asked you on a date? Like,
how did you say yes? And then did y'all immediately
get serious and get married? Because he was ready, he'd
been waiting for you the whole time. How did you
decide that you're gonna say ask? And what was your
first day?
Speaker 2 (27:13):
So he finally got my phone number because I needed
tickets to a rodeo. I had to message him cause
my parents were coming over and they needed tickets to
sold out rodeo and I was like, hey, so do
you have tickets to this rodeo at all, and poor
guy he did and he said yes, And he said yes,
but you're going to go to dinner with me?
Speaker 3 (27:33):
And I said, I want new dinner. I'll do breakfast.
It's way less sexual. So we did breakfast.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
And I knew then I would probably end up marrying him.
Why because he had all the qualities you'd want to marry.
He was successful, he was smart, he was confident enough.
He wasn't going to be like concerned me out on
the road or other guys talking to me like he
had his own I don't know the right word.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
He just he was confident enough, he didn't care.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Hit his own swagger, hit his own career, and he was.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
The nice guy.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
But I really liked the business side of Tyson as well.
I will say that because I was always very business minded,
and I knew that if somebody was going to keep
up in life, they'd have to be more than just
I wrote your cowboy, because once you were retired, like anything,
you then what.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
So I knew he was going to have to have
a what after that.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
We dated for.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I'm trying to think here.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
We dated for about a year and I literally was
just going like, hey, you've got to ask my dad
if he can date me, because my dad's like, me
and my dad are like tight. So if my dad
won't even let you date me, this is pointless. So
I actually made him ask my dad to even date me,
which is hilarious because that's only a marriage question.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
But anyway, he did it.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
What did your dad say?
Speaker 2 (28:51):
My Dad's like, sure, cool, he probably thought.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
This was a great choice.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
He did because my dad rodeos. So my dad's like, yeah,
he's successful, he's.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Nice, so he's a champion, he's got a good character.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
And then ten months, like we dated for a year
and then we got engaged. Ten months later, we were married,
so we knew. I mean, I wasn't ever any in
a position that I was like, I'm a dated guy
for four years and get married. I just I had
I think I was. I was only twenty four. I
think when I got married, I was still young. But
I think that's why it took so long to say
yes to him, because I was twenty one living my
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high life, Like why would I want to, like admit
when I knew it was married that young? But you know,
and we've had we have a fabulous marriage. But we've
had struggles too, Like Tyson retired a few years ago.
For a time period, it's so weird. Sorry, he retired.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
He was just over being gone on the road, never home.
It was a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
He had made the finals fourteen times, won the world,
so he was he just need a break. So we
sold everything, all these horses a trailers. He was completely retired.
But like any athlete when they retire, it's like me
with music, when when I lost my deal, then what
like you lose your identity.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
So he struggled for I mean, he'll tell you he struggled.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
It was a tough year and a half when he
retired because he didn't know everything he was trying wasn't
being successful and he was so used to being successful,
and so you know, we we stuck together, but it
was you know, it wasn't a easy two years.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Those valleys are hard, Michael, and I've been through those too,
and it's like it will test you and test you personally,
and I'll test your marriage and I'll test everything. But
it's incredible when you get the other side because then
you're like, wow, we we survived this.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Bit, I know exactly, And you know we had and
It's funny because Tyson had finally gotten okay with the
concept of being retired. And then I got back into
music and I was doing an interview and I was like,
tessan't I left him. I never had left the kids.
I was like, I let tyes it home with the
kids for two days, and oh, funny, he's gonna un retire.
And I took it as a joke, and then literally, girl,
two weeks later, he's like, you know, I think I
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want to retire. I think I'm like, are you kidding?
I literally just said that in an interview, Like I
know him so well. So then he's forty two unretiring
and we went out this year as a family on
the road. In the summer, he unretired. He almost made
the national finals, only competing for four months of the
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twelve month season.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
He had a great year.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
It's probably nice of a break that he came back
totally rejuvenating and refreshed.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
So he says he's rodeoing again this year and he
wants to make the finals and win a world title
one more time. And he says that then he will
have peace knowing that he is completely done and he's
ready to retire, which I agree, and I said, hey,
I feel like when that time comes, so many doors
will open up because I'm a big believer that if
God's not done with you somewhere, he's not going to
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open up a door somewhere else, because that's stopping you
from what he needs you to keep doing. Sometimes we
make choices that you know, He's like, hey, I'm not
ready for you to do that yet. So I believe
when Tyson retires the next time, he's going to be
able to do all the business benches and all the
great stuff he wants to do.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
I just don't think it was his time.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Yes he is, he close, but he's not ready.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
He wasn't ready. So yeah, anyway, so yeah, we're busy
with him.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Rodeoing and me back into music and the businesses. We
we just really try and keep We try to go
more than a week two weeks not seeing each.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Are you there?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah, I don't know what happened, but I'm back.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Wait you go two weeks? So well? Are you will
all switch off with the kids or are you always
with the kids that they come with you? Are your
kids homeschool? They're in school? Yeah? How do they stay
in school without crazy travel schedule.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Well, you know what it's like.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Most of the travel. Hey, I live on a ranch,
is like a fly going somewhere around here. If I
see it, roll with it.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
I love it. I love it. I love me. I'm
from Texas. I'm from Waco, Texas. I love Texas great.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
So our kids go to a small private school, little
Christian school, which is great because they're super flexible with schoolwork.
But most of the travel, honestly, like with singing too,
it's over the summer, so it's great. I mean, we
may go for a week here or there, but mainly
over the summer, and we go out for all three
months of the summer pretty much.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Us load up and the kids are coming and you're
either going to rodeos or you're actual playing a lot
of like shows or at rodeos.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
I mean, I think I think part of it is
I look at it as we're creating memories as a family,
especially with rodeo.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
That it's a limited time frame.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
So yes, the kids aren't getting to do the sports
over the summer and the things they got to do when.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
He was retired.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
But he's probably gonna get a radio two more years,
so it's like, why not create these memories. It's honestly
the best time. I love being on the road. I
struggle when we get off the road because we spend
so much time together as a family, and then when
you get home, everybody's going their own directions.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
I'm like, did we talk today? Like I didn't like.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
So it's that's the hardest part coming off the road
because you have so much fun being with family. But
we have you know, my parents live here as well.
They have their green cards, so we have I have,
I have help to juggle everything I'm doing. We all
live on the same ranch, which is a.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Huge parents live on the same ranch as you in Texas.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Yes, it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Way. So are they still involved with rodeoing or like
it's some capacity.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
So my mom is awesome. She's sixty two I think now,
and she still competes.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Bow racing on the pro circuit. So they go out,
my dad and mom go out over the summer and compete.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Wait, your mom competes like against women are in there,
like twenties and stuff. Yeah, and she's a total badass
like that, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Yeah, So she's very very competitive and kind of.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
She's never stopped. No.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Well, so growing up when I had a to say,
handicapped sister who was four years younger. So I give
a lot of credit to having amazing parents because when
she was born, there was five children in the world
with her disorder, and basically her brain didn't develop past
a three month old, so she was meant to live
till five, but lived till eighteen. So for eighteen years,
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my mom had a baby waking up feeding all the
baby stuff.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
So there's only five people in the world.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
It was hell yeah, and I don't know now, but
there was only five in the world when she was born.
So my mom had a baby for eighteen years. Yet
we still traveled to America. My dad rodeoed me and
my brother never missed out on mething. So my mom's
one thing she could do for herself was compete in
rodeos because my sister could come along in the trailer
with earth. So my mom put a lot of time
and energy into that one thing for herself because she
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really was limited to what she could do. But my
parents sacrifice a lot, you know, even when I think
I had to grow up a little earlier, because even
at sixteen being on the road. I couldn't have my
parents with me. We couldn't obviously, my sister couldn't come
to those things, so I had either my brother who
was two years older, or just my manager. So I
had to make smart choices at sixteen by myself. And
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even moving to the US, you know, I had to
just do it because it's not like my family could
move back at the time of my sister. So yeah,
I mean, I think that's kind of it makes you
very You're very thankful for the small things in life.
I think when you grow up with somebody that is
handicapping your family.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
But we were bless me. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
She lived till eighteen and was meant to live till five,
So it was definitely part of what's made you know,
how I am and my parents the way they are.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
For sure, How did that impact you?
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I think you know, it was just so to me.
I just looked at her as a normal little girl.
Obviously if people I used to it used to bother
me when people would walk past and stare, So I
will never stare at a handicapped child or person. If anything,
I'll go up and I'll say hi and not be
awkward because I just know the feeling, and people don't
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do it to be mean. Nobody does it to be mean.
It catches your eye because they just don't look the
exact same as everybody else. So I never was mad
at people. I just didn't like it. So I'm very
aware of my surroundings. I did a lot of stuff
with I would go to a lot of schools, especial
needs schools, and then I would donate to families with
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handicapped children. So it definitely made me more involved in
that and aware of it of families that needed help
because they're you know, the reason my parents they created
a business from her because they both couldn't go to work.
So you have to make a lot of sacrifices as
a parent with a handicapped child. But it's made me
a lot more involved in that area with fundraisers and
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things like that.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
But did your dad continue rodeoing or did he stop
as well because your mom took a break for eighteen years.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
No, No, she kept rodeoing that.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Yeah, that was her one outlet.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Yeah, so I remember, so she was four years younger.
So when we moved to America when I was nine,
my sister was five, so my parents brought us all
to America, including my sister and rodeoed here. Obviously, they
could have taken the way out of this is too
too hard basket, we don't want to travel the US
and the world with a handicapped child, which a lot
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of people would say, but they chose to say, no,
We're going to go out and keep pushing for our
dreams and live a life and bring her along with us.
And I think that's why she lived till eighteen, because
we didn't sit home in a house. We were out
making memories still, whether it was harder or not. But
but yeah, I mean, I think that you can choose.
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You can choose the easy way out, or you can
just and I think that's why I was the way.
I was very determined at a young age because I
seen my parents. They didn't care how hard it was.
They were going to do it. But yeah, we traveled
the world with my sister. We've been to Japan, America, Mexico,
all these countries with her, and she just would come along.
And my mom never wanted to put her in like
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a wheelchair, so she had like a big oversized stroller,
which still looked funny anyway, I mean, obviously, but it
was like for her mindset, my mom was like, well,
she's in a stroller, not a wheelchair. So my parents
were fabulous and they are still fabulous. But seeing my
mom now come into her shell of being able to
compete to the level she wants to and then be
here in the US with the grandkids, and it's really
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nice because there was a period of time that they
didn't have the ability to do all the things that they,
you know, per se potentially could have done.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
So the Cowboy code is really something strong, isn't it.
What is that like? What is this ethics in this
code that you because like I just feel like hard work, determination, grit, perseverance,
like loyalty, following through with your commitments, like doing hard things.
It just feels like it's like such an incredible mindset.
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How would you describe it?
Speaker 2 (39:28):
It really is, And I think that's why it's so
big in today's culture.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
I mean, we're missing it.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
We are now. To me, when I think of cowboy,
I think of the shake of a hand. You say something,
your word's true. You don't need a contract if you
say something to somebody going to stick through your word
cowboy culture is being able to get knocked down and
get back up, whether it's the this is you know,
a cliche, but you get buffed up a horse, you
get back on. You can't let the horse win, you know.
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So there's a lot of things that you take those
in life lessons. The cowboy culture is responsibility at a
young age. At a young age, we're outfeeding horses before
we feed ourselves, where we're taking care, we have responsibilities.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
So I do think, and that's why I've.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Wanted to keep my kids in that culture for so
long and in my you know, growing up, because I
do think it took sheches, work, ethic, It teaches responsibility,
being genuine to your word. Now there's some cowboy culture
that's wild and has fun, but that's all part of it.
But I really do think that that's what's missing in
today's society, and I think that's why people are leaning
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more back to the cowboy culture, more so now than ever,
because I do, like you said, I do think we're
missing it, yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Because otherwise you're just floating around. You don't know what
you stand for, you don't know what you believe in,
you don't know what's right or wrong. Everything's up for grabs.
But when you have these this ethical code that you
live by, it's.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Old school, you know, yeah, and don't I don't judge
other parents, but for for us, like we didn't have
cell phones at twelve. I mean, so for like my
our poor children, I just probably not gonna like me
when they're old.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
But like, I'm like, you don't need a phone.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
So you're sixteen and you're driving, because you're gonna either
be like hanging out, Like we want our place to
be the best place. All the kids come here, or
you know, if you're going somewhere else, we'll be with you.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
We're doing things.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
A lot of a lot of the cowboy culture is family,
so a lot of the you know, we stay together
as a family. So I'm a little bit, you know,
I'm like, I don't I can have a cell phone.
Thanks for not going to have social media because I
was on it way too young. And I I think,
I you know, I know I was a good girl,
and I know the messages you get, and I know
what comes across there, and I you know, even back
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when we were younger, I struggle with my own like
personal self, you know, self esteem and all that, and
I cannot imagine today's society with these kids. So I'm
just I want to try and keep my kids as
protected and and old school as possible as long as
I can.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
So when did you officially launch back into music? Like
when was the When did you say? How long ago
was it? It wasn't very long ago?
Speaker 2 (41:59):
No, so early twenty four? So so last year? Yeah? Yeah,
so two years ago basically, well, because it's the end
of twenty five.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
My daughter, our oldest, who's down nine, said.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
To me, she said, Mom, I've never seen you perform before, like,
and I was like, well you have, you were just
too young to remember.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
And she says, why don't you do it anymore?
Speaker 2 (42:20):
And I honestly didn't have a good answer, But like
when I started thinking about it, my honest true answer.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Was I don't want to fail.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
And I don't know if anybody cares to hear my
music anymore. Now I'm in my thirties. I mean I
was young when I was singing. Do I want to
do this independently? Like this is a big commitment? Is
it worth my time? And when I started putting all
those things like thoughts in my mind, I was like,
this isn't the way I've been taught to think, Like
why am I thinking like this? This isn't a good reason,
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this is a terrible reason. So then I, you know,
I said to praise. I said, well, do you want
me to get back singing?
Speaker 1 (42:55):
How what's your daughter saying?
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Praise?
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Like praise?
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Yeah, there are other kids names.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Risen is our daughter, like Jesus is Risthan.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
And then now sign's a cowboy name.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
His name's Tyan, like ty in a calf, my husband says,
but it means heaven in another language.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Best.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
So God is first and foremost with you guys. Yeah,
so man, okay, praise. I love the suit. You told praise.
You don't have a good reason.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
I said, hey, do you do you want me to
do this?
Speaker 2 (43:23):
I said, this means I'm going to be like because
I had never left my kids do everything with us.
I was like, there's gonna be times when I had
to go for a couple of days. It's just a
big commitment, like are you down? And she was like, yeah,
how want you to do it?
Speaker 3 (43:33):
This'd be great? Like okay, So then I, you know,
I said, I was like, hey, you're retiring.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Probably it's now whenever you know you're gonna be home more,
I probably have the ability to do that because I
never wanted to. You know, my kids and my family
was always first for my career has always had been,
so I didn't want to, like I need to make
sure everybody was on board, and everyone was.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
And I had these songs I had recorded.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
I mean like I had taken Me Back to Texas,
which I wrote with Jesse Joe Dillon years ago and now,
and then I had had another song called Alan Cowboy.
Used to write a lot with Walker Hayes. He's a
good friend. So I had all these songs that were
great songs just sitting there and I had already recorded them.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
They just went to that one's out Alan Cowboy, right yep.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
And I had recorded that back with Walker when we
wrote it. And I was like, I got these songs
sitting here. There's literally no reason I can't release them.
So when I started posting on social again and being like, yeah,
I think I'm going to get back into it. I
when I was well known in Australia, it was MySpace,
so none of my followers had came over because then
there was Instagram and Facebook. So for the longest time,
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I had thirty thousand follows on Instagram, it just wasn't
enough to base the career off. But then when I
started being more honest about like, Okay, here's my insecurities
or here's the true behind the scenes of what it's like,
and this is what I want to do on a
show that you can be a thirty something year old
woman and still you know, start back in your dreams.
The women and people just just gravitated towards it. It
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was honestly mine blowing seeing how much people were getting
behind it.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
I grew like half a million followers in like six months.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
It was from saying honest.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
I don't know, I'm guessing, or I say to my husband.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
People from Australia realized I was doing music again and
started following me. But I went from thirty thousand followers
to like six hundred thousand followers in like a year.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
And it was crazy because.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
I was like, Okay, well, God, maybe this is what
I meant to do again because people are seeming to
like it. So then I just started putting a few
songs out and they were doing well. I was getting
good streams, good views, and I was like you know what,
I'm just going to shoot three music videos at once
because then I'm committed. Then I've got to do it
because I need to be committed.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
So I did.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
I flew my Australian music music video director over and
he shot three videos in Texas in two weeks and
they was like, Okay, now i have a year's worth
of music, So I'm going to do it. And I've
released two of I've released two of those three songs
as another another one I'll release next year. But then
I you know, I just hired a good team back
home in Australia, people I had worked with in the
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past or radio promo and started releasing the music back home,
and it was, you know, it was doing really good,
does really well there.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
And so I'm just honestly having fun doing it.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
If anything, I'm being inspirational to other women and showing
young girls.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
You know, a good example.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
But I don't know what it looks like, you know,
whether it's these three songs and then God opens some
other doors and closed this music again.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
But but either way I will feel like I have.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
I felt like I wasn't finished at the time, but
now I feel it feel like Okay, I've you know,
I've done that again.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
I've shown my girls I've but you never know, You
just don't. You just never know.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
It's such a funny industry, the music industry. You can
be We've both got friends that you know, we're playing
to two hundred people at bars and then two months
later we're on tourism selling out. It's just it's insane
with the internet in today's time. It's it really is
mind blowing how it's all changed so much since I
first started.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
So how I love that you just kind of let
faith lead you and like you follow your intuition and
the internal guidance. How does God speak to you? How
do you know when it's time for the door to open?
And how do you know when it's time to for
a door to close? Like? What does that feel like?
How does it line up when you know it's like
a time for a change.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
I don't. I don't hear like a like a physical
voice like people say they hear and stuff like that.
I just feel like I trust the process in his process.
Sometimes I'm not gonna lie. Our door closes and I'm
like ouch, that hurt. That does not make any sense.
I don't think you were meant to close that door, Like,
are you sure?
Speaker 1 (47:41):
You know?
Speaker 2 (47:41):
When I have an internal battle, But then I have
to sit back and be like, Okay, I'm just gonna
trust that. I just got to keep doing my part
and then I'll be guided to the right the right steps. Obviously,
we try and live a good life and.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
We're not perfect. I'm not perfect. I make stupid choices,
you know, over the years.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
But I think if you're living a certain way and
you're you're open to accepting the hard hits when the
door's closed, you can see when the right door opens again,
because there's doors that open sometimes and aren't the right doors.
But I think you have to use your own intuition
of is this what I should be doing, how does
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this line up with my morals or how does this
line up with with my family dynamic.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
I have a lot of goals and dreams too.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
I mean, I would love to be I mean, I've
always wrote it, but I would love to be the
first girl from Australia to qualify for the national finals
one day. But that's a huge commitment because I know
what it takes to get there. I've seen the amount
of miles my husband does.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
So you want to get back into rodeoing too, I will.
Speaker 3 (48:47):
No bow racing. I'd like to do some time.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
Make the national finals always been a goal. No women
have done it from Australia. But also that doesn't line
up with our family right now, there's just no way
I can. I'm going to keep doing music and the
businesses until I feel like, okay, now it's the time.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
So patience is a virtue and I don't have much
of it sometimes, but I really because.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
You have a lot to do. You've got a lot
of big goals I mean, Shay, and time of it,
but like doing music, barrel racing on this level, raising
three kids, being a wife to a world champion, being
a daughter of world champions. You being like so successful yourself.
I mean you have a lot being on a farm,
keeping up with all your animals and maintaining that You've
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got a lot, your fashion, your clothing line. I mean
you're non stop, Shay. Are you just an energizer bunny?
Do you have tons of bandwidth?
Speaker 3 (49:39):
I do?
Speaker 2 (49:40):
My husband's said that, like I honestly, I get up
at well, I get about probably four forty five to five,
So I can have a little bit of many time,
and I'll go and just get on the treadmill for
thirty minutes and have some power walking me time and
before the kids wake up, because otherwise I'm not saying
exercise makes me happy.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
That's why I have to get that.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
I have a fitness group for women where you know,
when I learned the tricks about getting my body back
and the foods and like the reset that I did
to get my body back after out there child because
he was hard on me.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
I shared it and I had a fitness group.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
I have a lot of women in the group, but
I'm like, I'm exercising anyway. It doesn't hurt me to
post this stuff and it help other people. So I
do and coffee, coffee and exercise keep me energized. See
that should be an ad like a slogan, right.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
Yeah, and you have like an eight pack, so it's
working well.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
Sometimes I ate too much chocolate or like I'll splurge.
I'll have a week where I'm like, you know what,
I'm just gonna enjoy food and it's okay because I
know next week I'll reset and then I've got it.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
I mean, I think it's everything in moderations.
Speaker 3 (50:48):
I mean, we cannot be perfect.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
If we're gonna pretend that we're perfect all the time,
it's just not going to work in life. And I
think it's important to also we try. Our kids have
very high expectations for themselves, but we do try and
show them like, hey, we screw up to we're not perfect.
You don't have the perfect twenty four to seven. Because
I think in any probably with your kids too, you'll
notice it. But any kids that have like high achieving parents,
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it's very hard for them not to want to be
like that. But that's a really that's a lot of
pressure at a young age.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
So big shadows of phil Phil it is.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
And we don't want to our kids to feel like that.
They already feel like that, whether we try to or not.
So we really try and push like, hey it's okay,
Like you can be bad at something. I promise you
didn't see any of it.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
Okay, Chay, you're so amazing. This is so interesting. It's
so cool to get to peek into your life. You
just have so much going on. Tell everyone where they
can follow you, where they can find you, what we
need to be following along with, Like just keep it
give us all the deats on what we need to
know keeping up with you.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
Yeah, so social media obviously, I have Instagram, Facebook, all
the stuff I have TikTok, But girl, I am.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
Not cool enough with the same I just so I
want to I'm.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
Like, no, I'm good sostag my main deal on Facebook,
but I have my website which is Shaefisher dot com.
But yeah, you can follow along with that whole family. Tyson,
my real last name, like married name is Durfy, but
I still go through music.
Speaker 3 (52:13):
But so it's Tyson. Durfy's my husband, and.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
He dropped some good wisdom. I was on his page
and he is like dropping some nuggets of like cowboy wisdom,
and like it's some good stuff over there too. Yeah
a couple.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
Yeah, y'all follow us and we still read our messages
where we still do all that. And then I am
going to send your kids some super cool clothes and
the next time I'm in Nashville, we're going to hang out,
because yes, maybe.
Speaker 3 (52:36):
We can get a babysitter and hang out like.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
I would love that, Shaye, I love that so much.
And you're in Texas where in dripping Springs? Is that
where you are like, right.
Speaker 3 (52:44):
Oh, that's where I got married.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
No, we're in near full Worth now, so near Weather, Texas.
Speaker 3 (52:48):
But they have a big.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
Rodeo in Nashville and May the big one they had
last year.
Speaker 1 (52:53):
We want to come and hang out and see you.
Speaker 2 (52:55):
Y'all need to come because tysonbly competing and so much fun.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
I never rodeo. Please, oh my gosh, please please please Yeah, Shay,
You're so awesome. This was so fun and thanks for
bearing with me, like technological issues and my lasered face off.
So I mean, it's just you know, lot going.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
You're a person for the lasers, so I'm gonna leave
that to you.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
Oh my gosh. I always wrap up with leave your light,
and it's basically just drop some inspiration that you want
people to know.
Speaker 2 (53:25):
No dreams too big. Failure is just a stepping stone
to success. So if you fail, you need to pick
yourself back up because you have to be a great
loser as well. And I would say my last piece
of advice is love.
Speaker 3 (53:40):
Who you are, be confident in who you are.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
Don't compare yourself to other people because it is a
terrible thing to do, and don't believe everything is see
on social media because we don't all look perfect.
Speaker 3 (53:49):
There's just a lot of filters we use a man.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
Thank you so much, Shay for joining me. This was
so fun. I'm so glad I got to know you.
I feel like I've known of you for so long
and I'm so glad I've gotten to finally get to
know you and like see what you're all about. You're
so awesome, You've got so much going on, it's so exciting.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
Yes, we will have to just make a trip. If not,
we'll see you in May at the Rodeo.
Speaker 1 (54:11):
Okay, okay, can't wait. Bye, Shay, Thank you,
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