December 8, 2025 • 46 mins
Bobby Bones joins Movie Mike to talk about his Top 5 movies he saw in 2025, him going back to the movie theaters for the first time in years and are we seeing the death of movie stars? In the Movie Review, Mike and Kelsey talk about Hamnet starring Jessie Buckley and Paul Mescal. It’s about William Shakespeare and his wife, Agnes, who celebrate the birth of their son, Hamnet. However, when tragedy strikes and Hamnet dies at a young age, it inspires Shakespeare to write his timeless masterpiece "Hamlet." Mike talks about why he thinks it’s in contention for best picture, Kelsey shares why the movie was better than the book and the effect a girl was crying uncontrollably in the theater had on their movie experience. In The Trailer Park, Mike talks about How to Make a Killing starring Glen Powell. The movie is about his character who is the heir to a multi-billion dollar fortune and will go to any lengths to grab everything he believes he deserves. Mike shares why he thinks we might be romanticizing murder a bit too much recently.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome back to movie Mike's movie podcast. I
am your host Movie Mike. Today I'm sitting down with
my friend Bobby Bones, who for the first time in
a long time, went back to movie theaters, and I
want to know his top five movies of the year.
In the movie review, we'll be talking about Hamnet starring
Paul meskel Is this going to be best picture at
the Oscars next year? Kelsey will hop in on that
(00:21):
review because she also read the book. And in the
trailer park we'll be talking about How to Make a
Killing starring Glenn Powell and Market Qually. It's about his
character who is the heir to a multi billion dollar fortune,
except he basically has to kill his entire family who
are in line ahead of him to get all that money.
Thank you for being here, Thank you for being subscribed.
If you are not over on my YouTube channel YouTube
(00:42):
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it would mean a lot to me if you go
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here every single Monday. You can always find the links
to all that and my social media in the podcast
description notes. But now let's talk movies from the Distrow
podcast networking is Movie Mike Movie Potas. I sat down
(01:05):
with my friend Bobby Bones. If you're a listener of
this podcast, you probably already know who he is, let's
face it, but for some reason you don't. He is
the host of the Bobby Bones Show, the Bobby Cast,
twenty five Whistles, all of these podcasts that in some
way or another I'm probably associated with as well. But
what you may not know is Bobby and I have
known each other now for fifteen going on sixteen years.
(01:26):
We met after I messaged him on MySpace asking him
for advice on how to start a podcast. To think
that was in twenty ten. That is how we met
each other. He replied to me and said, just come
up watch how we do the radio show and you'll
get all the know how you need from there. I
went up, I visited the show, I saw all the
other interns working and thought, I want to do that.
(01:48):
And from that moment where I got that internship, I
never left. Started working there with him and Austin eventually
moved here in Nashville and now here we are fifteen
years later, still doing it. And he is historically a
person who does not like going to the movie theater.
But this year we'll talk about why he ventured back
into the theater in his top five movies of twenty
(02:08):
twenty five, and what he thinks about movie stars and
if they're dying out. Let's get into it now with
Bobby Bones. All right, were here to talk about your
top five movies of the year. Before we get into that,
what was your relationship with even going to the movies
before this year.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I don't think i'd been in years. My wife wanted
to go at the time, she was starting to be pregnant,
if that's the actual medical diagnosis, and so there was
stuff that she was like, I feel good, but not
so good that I want to go do in the
active So let's find something to do where I don't
have to be active at all. And so we would
go to the movies and we watched like Fantastic Four.
(02:41):
We did like seven weeks out of nine, I think
five weeks in a row and seven out of nine.
That probably matched my total movie intake ever in the
history of my life, and also was the first time
I'd been in forever. So I don't like the theater
very much because people get on their phones. And I
don't mind people being on their phones if they're to
the side or behind me, but when they're in front
of you and they're on their phone, it's just a
(03:02):
big light in the theater and you can't help but
then look at their phone. I feel like people are now,
though honestly, more respectful in theaters than they even wear
five or six years ago. And I think a lot
of that too, is just the chairs are bigger, you
can lean back. But did not have a good relationship.
But we're on the way back.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
How do you feel about the experience now? Are you
still an anti movie theater?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah? I would rather wait till it streams. Most most
of my questions to you are always hey, is that
movie streaming yet? And if it's yes, then I'll go
watch it, Like I just watched Roofman, and I just
waited to watch Rufman because I was waiting on you
to tell me when it was finally out. So yeah,
I wanted to be streaming. I don't know if it's
because we have a big TV, it's just because I
(03:41):
get annoyed, or if it's because I have to watch
the whole thing when I go to the theater because
I can't pause and and come back in the theater
or in some of the movies that we'll talk about.
I watched it in like two different sittings because movies
are way too long. They're like two and a half
hours long, and I have trouble sitting for forty five minutes.
So I think that probably affects it as well, and it's.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Kind of more memorable by going to the theater, like, oh,
I took that movie in differently, and then I just
watched it at home, either on my laptop or on
my TV. That's fascinating, I don't think so, I don't.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I think i'd take it in worse because I have to.
I'm told when I can watch it, I have to
sit for thirty minutes before to watch the previews. And
at this point I know when the movie's going to
start according to when the previews start. However, I still
just in case, will still get there early in case
they decide on this movie they're going to cut the
previews way short. So yeah, the experience of the movies
I don't like.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I do think they need to cut that down, Like
thirty minutes of previous is insane for people going to
the movies who have never haven't been in a while,
and then they're like, why do I got to watch
thirty and a half an hour?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
All right, let's get into your list, your number five
movie of the year.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
So these are movies that I watch. I'm not even
sure they all came out this year, okay. And because
I said Rufman, I didn't put it on the list
because I didn't think about it until I said, I
just watched ruf Man. So if I were going to
put as a as an honorable mention, i'd put ruf
Man because I did like Rufman and that was a
twenty twenty five movie.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Right, Yeah, it came out a few months ago. Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I put a number five. Top Gun, the new one
you just watched. I just watched it, and there was
a lot of hype. I thought, there's no way to
live up to it. It did not live up to it,
but it got pretty close. It was pretty corny, but
I think it was made corny.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I think it's better than the original.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I also didn't watch the original till like three or
four years ago, So.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
You're totally new at the Top Gun.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Like I've known of it. I just never got into
Top Gun. I didn't hate on it, kind of like
Star Wars, I don't hate on it. I just never
got into it, and probably if I got into it,
I would have liked it. But I will say that
the action on Top Gun was really cool.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I love the way that movie was filmed, the way
it made you feel. I do think that is an
issue now with how I overhyped movies when they first
come out. It's never gonna live to that standard. Because
I love that movie in theaters. I would say it
probably saved the movie industry that year it came out,
because it got people actually going back. But you build
it up so much and then you watch it at
home and it's like it's all right.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I only watched it at home, and it had gotten
so hyped up that I started tearing it down. So
it was the perfect meet in the middle. I enjoyed it.
I put that at number five. I think Tom Cruise
is still a great action story. Even though he's a
great runner in movies.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
He doesn't run really well.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
From like Mission Impossibles and Top Guns, like the guy
runs on screen really well when running can be a
really awkward thing.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
If I said that Hollywood stars are dead, Now, what
would you say.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
That there's a few? I think famous fractured in general,
and I think Hollywood is just a version of what
we're all experiencing with fame to whereas there are eight
hundred actors doing eight hundred different projects that eight hundred
people are watching, all differently. I don't think we live
in an attention economy to where everybody goes to anything anymore.
But I think the traditional Hollywood stars what it was
(06:45):
even in the nineties and early two thousands, I think
it's way different because when there's a lot more of something,
there aren't as many significance of something, So you still
have the ones that have been around, which are I
think a DiCaprio for sure. I think of now, who's
the guy that played Bob Dylan, Timothy Challaman, that's one
of them. I think there's five, four or five. So
(07:06):
I think if we're comparing it to ten fifteen years ago, yes,
I think there are a lot of stars, but it's
just harder to cut through because there are so many projects.
There's so many movies coming out on Netflix. There are
just so many ways to get movies, so therefore there
are so many more actors. I think the height like
to be a massive star is so much harder to
(07:27):
be because it's hard to be massive because you have
to cover so many categories. I don't know that's the
terrible answer, but yeah, I don't think it's dead. I
think it's just different.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I think we're leaning more towards directors now. I think
it's we're chasing original ideas. I think that's what's really
cut through this year. So I think the actual movie
star might kind of go away in the next couple
of years when you see people like The Rock do
a smaller movie and not be able to bring it
as much money.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
With The Rock, though, don't you think a little bit
he reads what people say about him. He's just a
money maker that plays the same person over and over
and over again. He's fighting dining, he's fighting dragons like
he's that action hero. He's swinging off buildings. But I
think after a while, when you have plenty of money
and you're not gonna get any more famous, even if
(08:10):
you do another three of them, you start to want
to have your peers recognize you.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Do you want the Oscar?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I feel like that's what the Rock at this stage
of his acting career, is he wants to be appreciated
for what he's doing more so than the appreciation just
be financial or just be celebrity, because at first, I'm
sure that's what it was. He was just trying to
prove he can sell a movie because he's just a wrestler,
and now it's he sold movies. Now he actually wants
to be appreciated for the work he's doing on screen,
(08:38):
if it's television or if it's I guess he doesn't
do a lot of TV, but I think Netflix, I
think he's billions because he did like The Red. What
was the Red the movie did on Netflix?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
The Red?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Notice something?
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah, he did a couple of Red movies.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, yeah. I think the Rock wants to be appreciated
now for all the work he's put in. So he's
changed it up a little bit because of that. But
I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
You're a number four movie.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Well I put nobody one into Okay, watched them both
this year. These are very action packed, violent, a little
bit goofy hour and a half. You can sit down
and have a good time with it, don't take it
too serious type of movie. It has Bob Odenkirk as
the action star. Those two don't go together. When you
(09:18):
think ac can start, you think of The Rock or
Jason Statham. You don't think of Bob Odenkirk, who played
Saul and better call Saul. But he's awesome in it
because he's not supposed to be that guy and he's
an assassin, and he's not an assassin anymore. He's like at
home now with his family and he kind of gets
called back in. And I didn't know Nobody one existed
until I was at the movies in my run when
I saw a preview for Nobody two, and I thought
(09:39):
Nobody too. I've never heard of Nobody one. So I
went home and watched Nobody one. It was ninety minutes.
I freaking loved it. I've compared it to TMU john
Wick because it didn't put near as much money into it.
I loved john Wick and so watch Nobody Want at home,
and as soon as Nobody two came out, I just
strained it. Like a week ago. I loved them both.
There should be no expectation because there's nothing there. I
(10:00):
think that's what makes it great. It's just a bunch
of fighting. Also in the movie from Back to the Future,
the old guy yeah, Doc, yeah, whatever his name is
in real life. Yeah, from Taxi as well, like as
TV Forever.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I put Nobody one and two at my number four spot.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Would you say if you have like a parental figure
or like a father figure in your life, that's a
good movie you can put on and them just like
cause I find like that's always the hardest person to find,
like to watch a movie for, like if you're watching
over the holidays, like we just need a kind of
crowd pleaser that guys will like too.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I think it's really a guy movie, though, Like my
wife didn't like it because it's just action. There's not
a lot of plot.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
There's no love. Really, it's family. The second one is
more family.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
It's just action. It's just a vehicle for them to
shoot each other and blow things up. That's it. So
I don't know that it's a family movie. But if
you're just bored and you want something on or you're
trying to kill ninety minutes, I think that's it.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
You're number three.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I saw this on Amazon Prime. I don't know if
it was even in the theater. It was Black Bag
in theater.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
It wasn't theaters. Yeah, earlier this year.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
So I watched Black Bag and as Michael Fastpender. Michael
Fastpender is somebody that I guess was introduced to me
through the show The Agency, which is on Hulu, where
he plays a spy. And so my wife and I
devoured that series, and after we finished it, you know,
it just feeds you what you like. So Black Bag
pops up and it's like, you may also like this,
And so we watched it on Amazon and it's quirky.
(11:26):
It feels a bit European, but it's a spy type movie.
And we were definitely in a season of watching a
lot of spy stuff because The Agency is kind of
spy CIAFBI type stuff. He plays a similar type character. Also,
Kate Blanchett said it, she's always great. I think she's
she's been a superstar for a long time, right.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, she's been run a while. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I really like that. And it also wasn't that long.
I don't feel I don't I'm looking it up here.
Our thirty four minutes. That's the perfect time. I thought
Black Bag was really good. It's who done it type
of thing you're trying to figure out who did the
thing that they're doing, and I thought I paid itself
off grade. Pierce Brosnan was in it, who not only
played Bond but was like Remington Steel back in the day,
(12:08):
so it was good. I get that's my number three movie.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
I'm gonna give you a movie to watch if you
really like that one. If you like spy movies, you
should watch a movie called Relay. It's about this guy
who is like the in between between like corrupt situations.
Like It's about this lady who wants to call out
her company for doing some shady, unethical things.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
It's called the Relay.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
It's called Relay. It's one of those movies that came
out earlier this year not a whole lot of people saw.
Is it streaming, But yes, it is streaming. But I
think you would love it because he is the in
between negotiations between the evil corporation and the person they
did wrong, and he uses like this communication device where
he's like completely hidden, like totally off the radar.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
It's got an eighty two percent of rotten tomatoes that
would pass the wife's test to watch it.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
I think if you both enjoyed Black Bag, you'll love Relay.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
All right, we're in. I made a note we're gonna
watch Relay. My number two movie is Cinners. I don't
really watch horror movies. This turns out into a horror movie,
but it doesn't feel like one for the first half.
It just feels like a nineteen fifties or sixties kind
of period music in the South, like what the vibe was.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
So you struggle with period pieces though you felt did
you feel that.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I didn't mind the colors so much like the colors,
and because I don't want to spoil my next ones,
but I'm a next movie.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I feel like they did a good job. There's something
about movies if they're like too green in those maybe
it's the greens of period pieces.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I didn't. I thought Sinaters was kind of red feeling.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I could see that. I think also Ryan Cooler, the director,
does a really good job at making movies feel modern
even though they're set in older times. Like with Michael B. Jordan,
he doesn't really he feels like he's from today, even
though he's in old clothes.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I think with this movie, I did not have an
expectation at all. I actually didn't expect to like it,
and I was only watching it because they were like, hey,
if you like this, the director will come on the show.
And I think they ran some ads or something, or
maybe it was just to get them on the show.
And so I got an advanced copy of it and
I just put it on the treadmill and I was like,
I'm gonna watch the first thirty minutes of this and
(14:11):
if I'm not feeling it, we're good. And I thought
the first thirty minutes was good, and so then oh,
let me just jump on in watch the whole thing.
Thought it was great, and it doesn't get vampirey until
way later in the movie, because I don't like horror,
don't I don't like jump scares. I don't mind zombies,
but vampires is that weird go between.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
It's kind of like a zombie Yeaes style that you're into.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah, I liked it. I put that in my number
two movie. But it probably a lot of that's based
on expectation. I had the expectation I would not like it,
and it was pretty good. So no nightmares after it,
not that I can remember. No, I did have nightmares
after Twilight back in the day of reading that book.
Also Vampires, Yeah, yeah, A number one half Frankenstein fantastic.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Again, I had no expectation. I didn't want to like
it because when I turned it on, the colors were green.
It was that kind of color period piece. The clothes
are weird. I din't like it, and I don't really
have a love for Frankenstein or the story in general.
I know it, I mean I kind of know it.
The scientist creates the big monster, the monster's got the
bolts in his neck, like we all know that. The Monsters,
(15:13):
you know, because the main character in the Monsters was
Frankenstein basically, So I have all of that. So I
really wasn't going into it going I want to love
this movie. But you had seen it and said it
was good. Eddie had seen it and said it was good.
So I liked how they split that up into different
parts like they do perspectives, the perspective of the scientist,
(15:33):
the perspective of some other people, the perspective of Frankenstein.
And so you're watching three different versions of the same story.
And I thought the Jacob Belori is at his name.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah, there's awesome in it, really good.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, And that's really not a role you expect someone
to have to be awesome. But I thought he did
a great job in that movie because Frankenstein has depth
and it shows Frankenstein like learning things. So I thought
he did a wonderful job with that.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Does that make you emotional at all? Like some of
the dialogue he said where he's like, I've never really lived,
but I never really died.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I think so. I was mostly like, because I'd seen
the video of how it h had it take eight
hours every single day to put all of the makeup on,
I was like, I would just think about that all
the time, like that must have sucked to have to
sit every day and put that on. And then I
would think, man, you really, after you put all this
time into something, you don't know how it's going to
turn out. You just go and you shoot this thing
and hope that the edit works out, that the story's good,
(16:21):
the script is good, that everything is it's to have
a hit, everything has to kind of work right, because
there's so many movies that come out that I'm sure
on script look great, but maybe the acting wasn't great,
or maybe some of the change in writing didn't turn
out right, or maybe the editing was bad or the music,
but everything kind of has to hit right in order
for it to be wonderful. And after you work on
a project for that long, because I've had projects like
television shows, I've recorded the whole show and you're like,
(16:43):
I wonder what this is going to look like once
it gets out of my hands and it comes back
and you're like, oh, that's pretty good or really good.
To do that with a movie where you had to
sit and make up eight hours every day, I was
kind of like, man, I hope this guy's happy because
it really paid off sitting in there for eight hours
every day.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
But I liked it.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
It was really good. That would be my number one movie,
and it was on Netflix and I didn't have to
pay extra for it, which I love.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
So next year not going back to the theater at all.
It's full of streaming.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I would have never chosen to go to the theater,
not even once. So I didn't like have a change
in how I operate other than I've made a change
in how I operate wherein I respect my wife and
what she wants to do. So I'm good never going
to theater again. I'll wait a month I'm perfect again.
I don't like to be told when I can watch
a movie, then I have to watch the whole movie
(17:29):
at that time. But I did have some good experiences.
We did watch the one one battle one that left
in another. Yeah, and I see why it's nominated for
everything one. It's completely original, so it's not a prequel.
It's not a sequel, it's not a reboot. Completely original
with a massive star DiCaprio, who acts the crap out
(17:51):
of it. He's awesome in it. There were some times too,
while they were shooting that movie, I thought, this feels
really original. That scene there's a chasing.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, one of the best in the last decade, I
would say.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
While that was happening, I even thought, and I'm not
good at movies, so I really can't spot great acting.
I thought, this is really cool how this is shot.
And when I left, I thought that was a long movie.
It it faught very long. I thought it was a
long movie. I did have to get up and go
to the bathroom during it, which I won't do like
I will hold it. But the bathroom was right next
to the door, like right when you walked out of
(18:25):
the theater. The bathroom was right there, so I knew
if I watched the screen all the way up to
the door, total in and out was going to be
like sixty seconds. So went to the bathroom real quick,
walked back in. Miss sixty seconds in the movie, but
it was that long that I had to go to
the bathroom, even though I emptied my bladder right before.
It was still good. I understand why it's up for
all the awards. I think if I could have watched
it in two parts, I would have loved it.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
That was like the longest movie I've seen this year.
That didn't feel that long. And I think the reason
I love it so much is because the chemistry between
Leonardo DiCaprio and Beniso do Toro, Like I think those
two together were per Yeah, he was great in the
two Did you it is funny? Like I felt like
it was more of a comedy or did you take
it as like this is a straight on drama going in?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I thought straight on drama, but then there there's some
physical type comedy. I don't know if comedy is the word,
but and I don't want to spoil too much of
the movie, but the bad guy in the movie, can
I say.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
This he's like in the military, he's a villain.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah, he's funny. Yeah, Like his character is kind of
funny in the ulous yes, yeah, so, And it's not
done in a way of we're trying to make a comedy,
nor is it so unbelievable, because I think there are
guys that act like that.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
But he's kind of funny.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah. The crowd in the theater laughed out loud a
couple of times. So because that happened, it felt a
little less like a drama and a little more. I
don't know what is it considered, Like, what is it?
What are the website?
Speaker 3 (19:51):
What's it called?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I think it's considered and like an action movie really, yeah,
majority of it his action action drama.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I think it goes so many different places that I
don't I have trouble definding it because I didn't know
what I would call it.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Feel like genres have kind of shifted a lot, like
coming of music. Yeah, like comedy is like a very
broad term now, but it does have a lot of
elements that are funny. And what you said right there,
that's why I like go into the theater, Like hearing
other people laugh makes me enjoy it more to you,
it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I just don't want to be told what time I
have to watch a movie, and I don't want to
be told I have to watch it all in one setting.
So but I did watch more movies this year than
I think any year in the past fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
That made me excited for you. I was like, yes,
because you've been saying like for the longest time you're
not a movie guy. And seeing you actually go to
the theater one but all the movies you have watched
this year, I was like, this is exciting.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Well, and I had surgery on my foot, so I'll
watch like three of them recently because I can't go anywhere.
I've just lay in the bed and watch movies. And
I think I've watched all the good shows, Like I
got to the end of Netflix. I got on the
end of all good shows on Netflix. They were like,
you got that message. I think you've been watching enough. Yeah,
you've watched enough Netflix. So yeah, good year for movies
over at our house because we watched a lot of
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them in the theater and and they come out streaming quicker.
It feels like, am I wrong?
Speaker 1 (21:01):
If a movie you kind of bombs, it'll come out sooner.
It'll come out within thirty to forty five days. If
it does really well, probably three months.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
People don't realize, like if you're younger back in the day,
six months. Yeah, Like you want to see Jurassic Park one. Okay,
it may come out in ninety six, but you're gonna
watch it at home on a VHS and like two
thousand and four, Like that's how long it would take
for a movie to actually get to blockbusters. So you
could go and run it now, Yeah, I see it,
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I store it, Mike set out yet stream yep, all right,
I'm gonna watch it.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
I think. Yeah. That's a lot of issues that people
have with even making money off of movies is because
they come out. If you don't go watch it, it feels
like it's not successful because when it goes to streaming,
it doesn't really have a chance to make money in
the back end. Before you had DVD sales, you had
VHS sales, and you had the ability to put it
on TV where more people would see it. But now
if it doesn't do well in theaters, it's like it's
kind of a failure.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Was Frankenstegin in theaters?
Speaker 1 (21:55):
No, it was, oh, it never was. No, it was
just straight Netflix. They put it in like a limited
runtime because they wanted to be nominated for Oscars, and
in order to be nominated for Oscars, you have to
have a theatrical run for at least a week, So
it comes out for like one weekend only, and then
just Netflix.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
It was so significant of a movie I assumed it
was in theaters because it didn't look cheap. It had
major actors, and it was good. A lot of those
straight to streaming movies. To me, you can tell it's
like the bad version of a big actor. Yeah, the
story's got a lot of holes and it's kind of corny.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Like anything Mark Wahlberg does right now is like straight streamer.
He was like the streamer actor.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
To me, I don't know that I've seen any of
Mark Wahlberg movies recently.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
I've seen way too many that are not good.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
All right, anything I should watch though going into the holiday,
So I have that movie written down. Oh yeah, Relay
from twenty twenty four, I.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Would say of my best of the year that you
would enjoy. You saw Weapons, Yeah, I saw Weapons.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, I forgot I even saw I saw that one.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, pretty good. You saw Bogonia.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Like Bogonia, I like Jesse Plummet's my favorite actor now
and you saw f one.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Yeah that was good.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Expect that to be good.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
We saw that in the theater.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
F One's really good.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
I probably would put that on my list, which I
could this month now too.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
So it's not out yet.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Still an Apple you can only buy it, but now
it'll be free on Apple.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Well, I've already watched it. But that's a good one.
And it's a little corny. But Brad Pitt's awesome in it.
Like he's still a great I don't know if that's
an action movie or not, but he's still great at
that stuff like having a shirt off and like doing
physical things. He's still great at that. And he's like
sixty years old.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
It helps that his act. His character in the movie
is like an older guy coming back and the young
guy kind of hates him.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah, it's a good point. But still it takes a
shirt off. He does not look like an old dude.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I would say, if there's anything you need to promote,
but I think you're good.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Right, don't promote it out merk Christmas, everybody, let's get
into it now.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
He's spoiler. A free movie review of ham Knitz starring
Paul Meskel, Jesse Buckley, directed by Chloe Jowell. I did
not read the book. You did? Were you excited for
it going into it?
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I'm gonna be honest, No, What did you feel.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
About the book? Wasn't it kind of was slow burn?
You were like.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Very slow burn.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
It was one of those where I picked it up
so that I could finish it, not that I was
excited to pick it back up. It was kind of
like almost when you have required reading for school. That's
what I felt like. It was like required reading to
finish it before the movie.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
But it's about William and Agnes Shakespeare, So it's a
fictional life story about the loss of their son.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Right, Yes, And I'm gonna be so honest. I read
the book, but never, obviously I knew it was about Shakespeare.
Never in the book did they say William Shakespeare. They
call him the Latin Tutor, like the whole time they
ever say like William Shakespeare, And so your brain has
to like keep reminding yourself this is about Shakespeare, and
oftentimes I forgot because.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
In the movie they do refer to him as will
do they ever call him.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
William No, but they I think at one point they
say William Shakespeare.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I thought Paul Meskal was incredible, and both of them together.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Paul Mescal and his slutty little earring.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yeah, you think I could pull off the single earing
That's what I was thinking the whole time, Like, could
I pull off the single earring? I feel like I
have to have a much better looking face than what
I have.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
I don't think you have to have a better looking
face than you have. I find your face very attractive.
I just think it has it also, like went with
the wardrobe and the time, but.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I feel like you could pull that off now without
the I mean William Shakespeare wardrobe.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
But it's very just like it's very Paul Mescal, Like
he just kind of gives off that vibe.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
He could pull off that. He could pull off the
short shorts. And he is just somebody who I think
acts on an entirely different level watching this movie, between
both of them, he's different than every other actor. He
was really intense. It's very intense and it was really emotional.
I just found the entire story to be kind of
more powerful than I was expecting. I thought this movie
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is gonna be kind of a snooze fest.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
I gotta say a very rare occasion where the movie
was better than the book. I feel like in the
book we get a lot of background of Agnes and
like her evil step mom, who you like barely even
realize in the movie is her stepmom.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Because they refer to as like a forest witch.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
No, that's about her real mom.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
All betterr real mom because.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Her mom died.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
You get a lot more background on Agnes of the book,
and I don't think that moves the story along as much.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
And in the book it's.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Very much like stare longingly gazed, wistfully went to the forest,
And I feel like they can just do those things
in the movie and it tells the story.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Better because the movie overall is the story of them
getting together. Nobody really wants them to be together.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Yeah, and you have way more in the book about
their backstory how they ended up together. Like his father
this isn't a spoiler, is in debt to her father,
all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
And they have a family together, they're living out kind
of on the countryside. I love the bird in this movie. Yes,
like it made want a pet bird even though I'm
kind of freak out by birds. I was like, if
I could have a bird that could return to me
on that little glove thing. Interesting, they gets a really
smart bird, Like, how do you do that? After watching
this movie, do you think it is in contingent for
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Best Picture? Yes, I think between this and One Battle
after Another, I think those are the two leaders. I
think Paul Meskell could win for Best Actor.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Those were one and two on the Rolling Stones. Oh really,
twenty of the Year.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
I didn't expect this movie to even enter my top ten,
could quite possibly enter my top five by the end
of it. How did you feel as far as how
emotional did it make you?
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Not as emotional as the girl?
Speaker 1 (27:20):
The girl? Okay, here's the weird part. There are obviously
it is a tragedy. They're gonna be sad things happening.
We won't say specifically what happens, but there are moments
that got me a little bit choked up. But the
girl next to.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Us, she brought her a little toilet paper.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
She was going through something. I feel like she which
the interesting thing was, before the movie started, she was
making fun of all the trailers that showed before the movie,
like the Hugh Jackman and Kate Hudson movie. She was like,
that looks terrible. Every movie, the c Sidney Sweety movie,
she was like, that looks terrible.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
She was going through something. I feel like the movie
was a cathartic release for her. But I just at
one point I heard her blowing her nose and I
was like, oh, maybe seasonal allergies. Because it's a time
of year when everyone's got like a cough sniffle in
the theater, which there's a lot of.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
It's a very quiet film.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
It's a very quiet.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yeah. That was hard for me when it started out
because we were both really hungry and it needed snacks
and I was like, I just gotta go for it.
But it's so quiet starting out.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
You wait till like the most quiet moments. Yeah, I
just because once like oh, no one's talking.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Once the once the action starts on screen, that is
my cue to start eating. Like I don't eat during
the previews.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
There was not much action in terms of this film.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
That's why whenever a movie starts out so quiet, I'm like, please,
I need to open my snacks, give me some sound here.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
But yeah, one point I look over and she is
just like on wrapping the toilet paper sobbing, like you
can hear the sobs.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
And this is like dollar store maybe gas station. Toilet
paper was one ply. It sounded like she was blowing
her nose with a receipt.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
I should have given her some tissues. I actually had
tissues in my purse.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
She was crying pretty hardcore, like pretty uncontrollably. We're like
a couple of times during this movie, which I heard
sniffles throughout the movie. I don't know if people were,
like you said, have allergies that were sick, but I
heard some. I hear some whimps, some weep weepings, the whimpers.
I hear some whims I had some weeps. No, but
I struggled letting the movie take a hold of me
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because she was going through it so hard, and while
the movie was impacting me and I was going through
these emotional stages and feeling a big connection to these characters,
I could not help the sound of the receipt going
and blowing her nose as she was crying throughout this movie.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Yeah it was I didn't ever feel like I was
gonna cry. But I also I've read the book.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
You knew what was coming that doesn't affect you a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Yeah, it made me feel things, but it didn't make
me cry.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
I thought. Also, the direction in this movie was really good,
because with any other director besides Chloe Jowell, this movie
could have been a total snooze fest because it does
take place in a period that is really hard to portray.
As far as making it feel modern, which i've I
feel like that's what helped this movie. It didn't feel
like it was It felt like it took place today,
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even though it was obviously way back in the day.
I think the sound design also helped that. Yeah, a
lot of the moments are very slow and kind of
drawn out, but it has this score underneath that feels
very modern, almost like these really weird sounds where the
speakers in the theater were kind of crackling, which was
an interesting thing and really made me feel connected to
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some of the action where they could have put some
really like classical music that you think more of, like
this feels like Shakespeare, but it didn't have that, So
I feel like that to me made the action move,
not that there's a lot of action in it, but
made the overall story move a little bit at a
different pace that was good from my brain who struggles
with things not being fifteen seconds or less. Right now, Yeah,
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it wasn't.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
It didn't feel slow, and that was my concern going
into it because I was like the book was slow,
so I was very afraid that the movie was gonna
move slowly. And some people I've seen like they loved
that book. They're like, the best one I've read this year,
Wait for the movie. That just wasn't my experience. Good book,
not my best.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Some people found it funny. I don't think I really
found it that funny.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Funny.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah, I heard people laughing throughout some of the things
early on that the kids were doing, which, by the way,
the kid actors in this were fantastic, so good, like
they are better than some adult actors I'm seeing this year.
Their characters go through so much where I'm like, where
do you find a kid who can act that well?
How do you even know at that age that you're
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a good actor.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
The little boy that played himnet and looked like Prince
George a bit.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
He did, he was probably the best so put. Him
and his sister were just like, these kids are just
next level.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
We're in just the like looks at the camera.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
The little nuances, which is hard to do. That's something
that you can't I don't feel like you could teach
that to a kid. But it was so powerful in
how subtle it was, especially through the third act of
this movie, which it takes you on an entirely different level.
But it's those performances from those young actors that are
like wow, that really brought the whole thing together. That
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puts any other kid actor, any other adult actor right
now kind of a shame. Yeah. I think that's what
was a really big strong point of this movie. I
don't want to reveal too much what happened in the
third act, but the third act I think that's what
really kind of made it feel like it had an
impact on me. And I think some people who are
maybe a little bit more high brow probably took more
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from this movie. As far as the story of William Shakespeare,
I think I just felt more of the emotion because
I don't really know much about the guy.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Yeah, I didn't even remember what Hamlet is about.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
So like because that's the story of like his son
Hamnet inspired Hamlet, and Hamnet and Hamlet were interchangeable.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
As far as names, I learned that in the very
opening scene of the movie. Yes, and then I thought
they brought it all together with the to Be or
Not to Be.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
We also got to talk about Joe Allen.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Oh, Yeah, who's had a lot of significant role since
breaking up with Taylor Swift.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Yes, it seems it's been good for his career.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
And do you not like him as an actor?
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Not like him, but I don't think he's done anything
where I'm like, Wow, he honestly is just like another
broody English white guy. He's not Paul Moscow like, he
doesn't have that level.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
To me, He's not leading man type of actor.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
I think he was great in kinds of Kindness. I
think that was where we saw him shine the most.
But like his other supporting roles and like the Brutalist
and this.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
But still since the breakup, he's been in movies that
we've actually seen in theaters. Before that, I just knew
of him that he was an actor, but didn't know
any of his work.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Yeah, I felt like he'd also starting his career then.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Yeah, takes a while to get on the big screen.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
If you had to rate Hamnet, what would you give it?
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Four out of five? Fencing Swords which do you fence
with anything other than the sword? Maybe I should have
just said I.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Think I sort vince with swords. I believe four to
five swords. I'm going to give it four out of five.
Was it a falcon or was it a hawk? I
think or a hawk. I think I'm gonna go four
point five at a five hawks, because I think it's
right up there with what I would also expect to
be nominated and possibly win Best Picture one battle after another.
And I think also the fact that I was expecting
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this movie to be boring and it wasn't boring.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
It wasn't boring, all right.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
That is our thoughts on Hamnet. There was no hand.
By the way, it's time to head down to movie.
Mic Traylor Paul two things. I could never be a
billionaire and a murderer. And hopefully, if you're listening to this,
you don't have the qualities to be the murderer. I
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would love for you to be a billionaire. That would
be amazing. I think we all fantasize about being a billionaire,
but I just don't think I have either of those
things in my personality that could allow me to get there.
To be a billionaire, you have to be incredibly driven,
which I think I am driven. I think in order
to get to the point that I have achieved now
in my life, it has taken a lot of drive.
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But to be a billionaire it's an a you also, for
lack of a better term, you have to exploit people
to some degree in order to become a billionaire. That's
how you do it. It's how you hoard all this wealth.
That's how you become a billionaire. So I think you
and I would never become billionaires because we are too moral,
unless we want the lottery. But even then, if you
actually think of the pressures of what it would be
like to be a billionaire, it would be too much
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for us. It'd be crazy. You think about spending a
billion dollars. I don't think we realize how much money
that is, and I don't think we realize all these
little things that come into play when you are a billionaire.
The stress would be crazy and a murderer. I could
never be that because I don't even like bothering people.
I'll go to Target and I'll need to get down
an aisle and there's somebody standing there at the exact
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same part of the aisle that I need to be.
I would even bother that. I'll be like, you know what,
I'll come back around. I'll go back the other way
just so I don't have to bother that person. So
if I don't want to bother somebody in Target, I
could never take somebody out. With some of these movies
coming out, are we starting to romanticized murder a little
bit too much? And I have this problem with people
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who are huge fans of true crime. I can never
get into that because I just feel this moral dilemma
with it taking satisfaction in other people's deaths and other
people's worst days of their life. That is really hard
for me to get into. But when it comes to
fictionalized things, I can lean into it a lot easier.
But I start to wonder about the psychological effects it
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is having on me, because recently this year, I've found
myself rooting for villains and anti heroes much more than
I ever have in my life. And by watching this
trailer for How to Make a Killing starting Glenn Powell
and Margaret Quality, I start realizing more how I think
it's just become more apparent in the storylines that we've
been watching and these characters that we've been fascinated with,
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and I do think it has some roots in how
accepted in pop culture that true crime has become. But
what this movie is about. Glenn Powell plays a guy
whose mom was part of a really wealthy family. She
was exiled from that family, disowned by them, but she
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told him that someday this fortune is going to be
years and he is somebody who feels like the world
has just pitted all these things against him because he
was robbed of that life. He is now working at
a job where he sells suits. Margaret Qually comes in
and it looks like they have some kind of pass
where she tells them like, oh, you're living in the
city and he's like, yeah, kind of around there, but
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he's really living in a really run down part of town.
And she kind of puts this idea in his head
because she knows the family money that he is connected to, like, hey,
if you ever decide to take out on your brothers
and sisters, call me. And with that idea implanted into
his head, it now becomes a plan. And that is
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the plot of this movie. Before I get into more,
here is just a little bit of the how to
make a killing trailer since the day I was born.
My mother told me we were different. Yes, she had
been disowned by her family, but someday I would become
the sole heir. The real estate planes an island or two.
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There were seven of them, seven rich pricks between myself
and twenty eight billion dollars sweeny eight billion dollars. You
hear the pain in his voice in this trailer. You
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see him take out what I would assume to be
his first victim. His brother is passed out on this
big boat like a yacht, and he ties an anchor
to his foot, and at the time he is doing that,
his brother wakes up, makes contact with him, and then
immediately the anchor takes him down into the sea. And
you see Glenn Powell's character in that moment to be
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a little bit poor. He replies in a very calm tone.
He doesn't seem like this over the top murderer just yet.
So that is why I assume it's his first victim.
And as he goes through these seven people, which I
don't know if he's gonna make it to all seven,
he probably starts to get more comfortable with it, maybe
a little bit too comfortable, because you do see that
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he gets a little bit of heat on him. It
looks like the FBI becomes aware of the connection of
all these people dying. At one point, it looks like
he does get arrested or at least questioned by some
FBI officers. But I really am a fan of the
tone of his character in the trailer, where he is
this calm, cool and collected guy who is just angry.
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He wants to get revenge. It is a revenge thriller
on all these people standing in the way of the
life he thinks he deserves. And I think that is
why I struggle with these types of situations right now mentally,
is because what he is doing is wrong. Murder is wrong.
But this movie is kind of gonna put you into
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this state of mind of what it means not completely wrong.
What if he does deserve this? What if this movie
can make you start to root for him, which is
a weird position to put yourself in, because obviously he's
doing something bad. He should be taken down by the
FBI and put into jail. But what does it say
about us that we kind of want to see him succeed?
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Is it just because it is a movie. It's a fake.
It's all for fun. And obviously I just love movies
so much that I overanalyze how they affect us and
our brains. But I just have found myself struggling with
this idea of rooting for a villain, especially one as
charismatic as Glenn Powell. Where to me, he kind of
feels like Christian Balees's character in American Psycho. That is
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the overall vibe I'm getting from this trailer where You're
never gonna suspect this guy, because there's one shot of
Glenn Powell and this trailer that he almost looks like
a doll. He looks so perfect that if I were
a character in this movie, why would I ever suspect
him of murder? I think him and Margaret Quality paired together,
it's perfect. They are two of the hardest working people
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in Hollywood right now. I feel like they are both
in like two to three movies a year, but they
still don't have that one flagship role that they are
known for. They are so close. Margaret Quality with the substance,
I think that should have been her that put her
on an entirely different level. She should have won all
the awards for that movie, but still not quite there.
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But I think she is a fantastic actress and any
movie she is in I'm gonna watch because that is
how noteworthy I believe she is. And Glenn Powell, I
am just rooting for so hard, and he has broken
into the Hollywood system with movies like anyone, but you
top Gun. I don't think The Running Man really panned
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out the way anybody involved in that movie thought it
was going to. But I don't think it hurt him.
I think if it would have been successful, a box
office smash, it would have put him in that a
list undeniable category. But I enjoy now that we are
seeing him in an entirely different role an a twenty
four movie. This movie is also from director John Patton Ford,
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who made his directorial debut with Emily the Criminal, which
starred Aubrey Plaza. If you haven't seen this movie, it
was one of my favorite thrillers of the last five years.
It is still on Netflix, and that movie is about
Aubrey Plaza's character, who is in a bunch of student debt.
She can't find a job she graduated college and then
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gets involved in a credit card scam where she gets
an underground job as a dummy shopper where she will
go buy things with fake credit cards, and then it
just gets crazier and crazier as she gets further and
further into this shady business. And again, another movie that
kind of has your root for the bad guy and
I Love Me a movie that can induce anxiety. So
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if you can do that with Emily the criminal, I'm
hoping for more of that to make a killing, because
he has a really great way at making these crime
stories feel very grounded in reality, because if you think
about it, a guy just getting an idea to kill
seven people to make twenty eight billion dollars, it could
seem so ridiculous and outlandish, but by the looks of
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this trailer, it looks like it's all going to kind
of makes sense, and you're going to buy into the
idea of him going through with this plan and maybe
convincing himself that he can actually pull it off. You
also have in this cast Ed Harris and Toferd Grace,
who his character looks very similar to his character in
that seventies show Eric Foreman. Or maybe it's just hard
(43:40):
for me to not see him as that character. This
movie is coming out next year on February twentieth. Can
he pull it off?
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Head?
Speaker 3 (43:48):
That Bar is this link's edition of movie by Framer.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
Bar and that is going to do it for another
episode here of the podcast. But before I go, I
gotta give my listeners shout out of the week. How
do you get one of those? You can comment on
my YouTube channel YouTube dot com slash Mike Distro. You
can send me a DM on any of my socials,
which you can always find in the podcast notes or
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episode descriptions. Or if you're old school and you want
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and I'll send them to your address. No, but you
can email me Moviemike d at gmail dot com. This week,
I'm going over to X and shouting out Shan who
wrote thank you, Hulu should stay and Disney Plus should
(44:34):
move over as a kid's profile, absolute worst interface. This
was in response to something I said a couple of
weeks ago where I hate the idea of Hulu going
away and it all merging with Disney Plus because I
believe out of all streaming services. I'm talking HBO Max,
I'm talking Toby, I am talking Paramount Plus, Peacock, Disney Plus.
(45:00):
It has the worst interface. And since I've said that,
I think they did do an update where they're getting
ready to merge them a little bit. They're setting up
some tabs. But the interface on Disney Plus is so
awful when it just comes to wanting to search around
for things, which sometimes I'll open up a streaming service
without intention, and that's the worst thing you need to do.
(45:22):
I will say a lot of me being prepared for
this podcast and knowing what I want to review each week,
and knowing what movies I need to watch for research.
I always go into a streaming service with a plan.
But sometimes there'll be a day where there's a good
football games on, there's no new movies out that I
want to see, and I just want to be fed
something maybe I haven't seen in a while. And Disney
(45:45):
should be the home of all that, having all those
nostalgic movies from Disney Channel and old school eighties and
seventies Disney movies. I should be able just to get
on there and browse around. But the interface is so awful.
If I want to pick up on a show I've
been watching. I just hate it so much. On the
other hand, I love the Hulu interface that makes it
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so easy. It categorizes things perfectly. The Disney interface is
so slow, and I'm dreading the day where everything gets
moved over there. So thank you Shan for sharing in
that frustration. Hopefully by the time they do away with Hulu,
they get Disney Plus right, but thank you for writing in.
Thank you all for listening wherever you are, and until
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next time, go out and watch good movies and I
will talk to you later.
Hello, and welcome back to movie Mike's movie podcast. I
am your host Movie Mike. Today I'm sitting down with
my friend Bobby Bones, who for the first time in
a long time, went back to movie theaters, and I
want to know his top five movies of the year.
In the movie review, we'll be talking about Hamnet starring
Paul meskel Is this going to be best picture at
the Oscars next year? Kelsey will hop in on that
(00:21):
review because she also read the book. And in the
trailer park we'll be talking about How to Make a
Killing starring Glenn Powell and Market Qually. It's about his
character who is the heir to a multi billion dollar fortune,
except he basically has to kill his entire family who
are in line ahead of him to get all that money.
Thank you for being here, Thank you for being subscribed.
If you are not over on my YouTube channel YouTube
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here every single Monday. You can always find the links
to all that and my social media in the podcast
description notes. But now let's talk movies from the Distrow
podcast networking is Movie Mike Movie Potas. I sat down
(01:05):
with my friend Bobby Bones. If you're a listener of
this podcast, you probably already know who he is, let's
face it, but for some reason you don't. He is
the host of the Bobby Bones Show, the Bobby Cast,
twenty five Whistles, all of these podcasts that in some
way or another I'm probably associated with as well. But
what you may not know is Bobby and I have
known each other now for fifteen going on sixteen years.
(01:26):
We met after I messaged him on MySpace asking him
for advice on how to start a podcast. To think
that was in twenty ten. That is how we met
each other. He replied to me and said, just come
up watch how we do the radio show and you'll
get all the know how you need from there. I
went up, I visited the show, I saw all the
other interns working and thought, I want to do that.
(01:48):
And from that moment where I got that internship, I
never left. Started working there with him and Austin eventually
moved here in Nashville and now here we are fifteen
years later, still doing it. And he is historically a
person who does not like going to the movie theater.
But this year we'll talk about why he ventured back
into the theater in his top five movies of twenty
(02:08):
twenty five, and what he thinks about movie stars and
if they're dying out. Let's get into it now with
Bobby Bones. All right, were here to talk about your
top five movies of the year. Before we get into that,
what was your relationship with even going to the movies
before this year.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I don't think i'd been in years. My wife wanted
to go at the time, she was starting to be pregnant,
if that's the actual medical diagnosis, and so there was
stuff that she was like, I feel good, but not
so good that I want to go do in the
active So let's find something to do where I don't
have to be active at all. And so we would
go to the movies and we watched like Fantastic Four.
(02:41):
We did like seven weeks out of nine, I think
five weeks in a row and seven out of nine.
That probably matched my total movie intake ever in the
history of my life, and also was the first time
I'd been in forever. So I don't like the theater
very much because people get on their phones. And I
don't mind people being on their phones if they're to
the side or behind me, but when they're in front
of you and they're on their phone, it's just a
(03:02):
big light in the theater and you can't help but
then look at their phone. I feel like people are now,
though honestly, more respectful in theaters than they even wear
five or six years ago. And I think a lot
of that too, is just the chairs are bigger, you
can lean back. But did not have a good relationship.
But we're on the way back.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
How do you feel about the experience now? Are you
still an anti movie theater?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah? I would rather wait till it streams. Most most
of my questions to you are always hey, is that
movie streaming yet? And if it's yes, then I'll go
watch it, Like I just watched Roofman, and I just
waited to watch Rufman because I was waiting on you
to tell me when it was finally out. So yeah,
I wanted to be streaming. I don't know if it's
because we have a big TV, it's just because I
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get annoyed, or if it's because I have to watch
the whole thing when I go to the theater because
I can't pause and and come back in the theater
or in some of the movies that we'll talk about.
I watched it in like two different sittings because movies
are way too long. They're like two and a half
hours long, and I have trouble sitting for forty five minutes.
So I think that probably affects it as well, and it's.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Kind of more memorable by going to the theater, like, oh,
I took that movie in differently, and then I just
watched it at home, either on my laptop or on
my TV. That's fascinating, I don't think so, I don't.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I think i'd take it in worse because I have to.
I'm told when I can watch it, I have to
sit for thirty minutes before to watch the previews. And
at this point I know when the movie's going to
start according to when the previews start. However, I still
just in case, will still get there early in case
they decide on this movie they're going to cut the
previews way short. So yeah, the experience of the movies
I don't like.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I do think they need to cut that down, Like
thirty minutes of previous is insane for people going to
the movies who have never haven't been in a while,
and then they're like, why do I got to watch
thirty and a half an hour?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
All right, let's get into your list, your number five
movie of the year.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
So these are movies that I watch. I'm not even
sure they all came out this year, okay. And because
I said Rufman, I didn't put it on the list
because I didn't think about it until I said, I
just watched ruf Man. So if I were going to
put as a as an honorable mention, i'd put ruf
Man because I did like Rufman and that was a
twenty twenty five movie.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Right, Yeah, it came out a few months ago. Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I put a number five. Top Gun, the new one
you just watched. I just watched it, and there was
a lot of hype. I thought, there's no way to
live up to it. It did not live up to it,
but it got pretty close. It was pretty corny, but
I think it was made corny.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I think it's better than the original.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I also didn't watch the original till like three or
four years ago, So.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
You're totally new at the Top Gun.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Like I've known of it. I just never got into
Top Gun. I didn't hate on it, kind of like
Star Wars, I don't hate on it. I just never
got into it, and probably if I got into it,
I would have liked it. But I will say that
the action on Top Gun was really cool.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I love the way that movie was filmed, the way
it made you feel. I do think that is an
issue now with how I overhyped movies when they first
come out. It's never gonna live to that standard. Because
I love that movie in theaters. I would say it
probably saved the movie industry that year it came out,
because it got people actually going back. But you build
it up so much and then you watch it at
home and it's like it's all right.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I only watched it at home, and it had gotten
so hyped up that I started tearing it down. So
it was the perfect meet in the middle. I enjoyed it.
I put that at number five. I think Tom Cruise
is still a great action story. Even though he's a
great runner in movies.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
He doesn't run really well.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
From like Mission Impossibles and Top Guns, like the guy
runs on screen really well when running can be a
really awkward thing.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
If I said that Hollywood stars are dead, Now, what
would you say.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
That there's a few? I think famous fractured in general,
and I think Hollywood is just a version of what
we're all experiencing with fame to whereas there are eight
hundred actors doing eight hundred different projects that eight hundred
people are watching, all differently. I don't think we live
in an attention economy to where everybody goes to anything anymore.
But I think the traditional Hollywood stars what it was
(06:45):
even in the nineties and early two thousands, I think
it's way different because when there's a lot more of something,
there aren't as many significance of something, So you still
have the ones that have been around, which are I
think a DiCaprio for sure. I think of now, who's
the guy that played Bob Dylan, Timothy Challaman, that's one
of them. I think there's five, four or five. So
(07:06):
I think if we're comparing it to ten fifteen years ago, yes,
I think there are a lot of stars, but it's
just harder to cut through because there are so many projects.
There's so many movies coming out on Netflix. There are
just so many ways to get movies, so therefore there
are so many more actors. I think the height like
to be a massive star is so much harder to
(07:27):
be because it's hard to be massive because you have
to cover so many categories. I don't know that's the
terrible answer, but yeah, I don't think it's dead. I
think it's just different.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I think we're leaning more towards directors now. I think
it's we're chasing original ideas. I think that's what's really
cut through this year. So I think the actual movie
star might kind of go away in the next couple
of years when you see people like The Rock do
a smaller movie and not be able to bring it
as much money.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
With The Rock, though, don't you think a little bit
he reads what people say about him. He's just a
money maker that plays the same person over and over
and over again. He's fighting dining, he's fighting dragons like
he's that action hero. He's swinging off buildings. But I
think after a while, when you have plenty of money
and you're not gonna get any more famous, even if
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you do another three of them, you start to want
to have your peers recognize you.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Do you want the Oscar?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I feel like that's what the Rock at this stage
of his acting career, is he wants to be appreciated
for what he's doing more so than the appreciation just
be financial or just be celebrity, because at first, I'm
sure that's what it was. He was just trying to
prove he can sell a movie because he's just a wrestler,
and now it's he sold movies. Now he actually wants
to be appreciated for the work he's doing on screen,
(08:38):
if it's television or if it's I guess he doesn't
do a lot of TV, but I think Netflix, I
think he's billions because he did like The Red. What
was the Red the movie did on Netflix?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
The Red?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Notice something?
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah, he did a couple of Red movies.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, yeah. I think the Rock wants to be appreciated
now for all the work he's put in. So he's
changed it up a little bit because of that. But
I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
You're a number four movie.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Well I put nobody one into Okay, watched them both
this year. These are very action packed, violent, a little
bit goofy hour and a half. You can sit down
and have a good time with it, don't take it
too serious type of movie. It has Bob Odenkirk as
the action star. Those two don't go together. When you
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think ac can start, you think of The Rock or
Jason Statham. You don't think of Bob Odenkirk, who played
Saul and better call Saul. But he's awesome in it
because he's not supposed to be that guy and he's
an assassin, and he's not an assassin anymore. He's like at
home now with his family and he kind of gets
called back in. And I didn't know Nobody one existed
until I was at the movies in my run when
I saw a preview for Nobody two, and I thought
(09:39):
Nobody too. I've never heard of Nobody one. So I
went home and watched Nobody one. It was ninety minutes.
I freaking loved it. I've compared it to TMU john
Wick because it didn't put near as much money into it.
I loved john Wick and so watch Nobody Want at home,
and as soon as Nobody two came out, I just
strained it. Like a week ago. I loved them both.
There should be no expectation because there's nothing there. I
(10:00):
think that's what makes it great. It's just a bunch
of fighting. Also in the movie from Back to the Future,
the old guy yeah, Doc, yeah, whatever his name is
in real life. Yeah, from Taxi as well, like as
TV Forever.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I put Nobody one and two at my number four spot.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Would you say if you have like a parental figure
or like a father figure in your life, that's a
good movie you can put on and them just like
cause I find like that's always the hardest person to find,
like to watch a movie for, like if you're watching
over the holidays, like we just need a kind of
crowd pleaser that guys will like too.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I think it's really a guy movie, though, Like my
wife didn't like it because it's just action. There's not
a lot of plot.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
There's no love. Really, it's family. The second one is
more family.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
It's just action. It's just a vehicle for them to
shoot each other and blow things up. That's it. So
I don't know that it's a family movie. But if
you're just bored and you want something on or you're
trying to kill ninety minutes, I think that's it.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
You're number three.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I saw this on Amazon Prime. I don't know if
it was even in the theater. It was Black Bag
in theater.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
It wasn't theaters. Yeah, earlier this year.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
So I watched Black Bag and as Michael Fastpender. Michael
Fastpender is somebody that I guess was introduced to me
through the show The Agency, which is on Hulu, where
he plays a spy. And so my wife and I
devoured that series, and after we finished it, you know,
it just feeds you what you like. So Black Bag
pops up and it's like, you may also like this,
And so we watched it on Amazon and it's quirky.
(11:26):
It feels a bit European, but it's a spy type movie.
And we were definitely in a season of watching a
lot of spy stuff because The Agency is kind of
spy CIAFBI type stuff. He plays a similar type character. Also,
Kate Blanchett said it, she's always great. I think she's
she's been a superstar for a long time, right.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, she's been run a while. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I really like that. And it also wasn't that long.
I don't feel I don't I'm looking it up here.
Our thirty four minutes. That's the perfect time. I thought
Black Bag was really good. It's who done it type
of thing you're trying to figure out who did the
thing that they're doing, and I thought I paid itself
off grade. Pierce Brosnan was in it, who not only
played Bond but was like Remington Steel back in the day,
(12:08):
so it was good. I get that's my number three movie.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
I'm gonna give you a movie to watch if you
really like that one. If you like spy movies, you
should watch a movie called Relay. It's about this guy
who is like the in between between like corrupt situations.
Like It's about this lady who wants to call out
her company for doing some shady, unethical things.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
It's called the Relay.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
It's called Relay. It's one of those movies that came
out earlier this year not a whole lot of people saw.
Is it streaming, But yes, it is streaming. But I
think you would love it because he is the in
between negotiations between the evil corporation and the person they
did wrong, and he uses like this communication device where
he's like completely hidden, like totally off the radar.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
It's got an eighty two percent of rotten tomatoes that
would pass the wife's test to watch it.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
I think if you both enjoyed Black Bag, you'll love Relay.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
All right, we're in. I made a note we're gonna
watch Relay. My number two movie is Cinners. I don't
really watch horror movies. This turns out into a horror movie,
but it doesn't feel like one for the first half.
It just feels like a nineteen fifties or sixties kind
of period music in the South, like what the vibe was.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
So you struggle with period pieces though you felt did
you feel that.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I didn't mind the colors so much like the colors,
and because I don't want to spoil my next ones,
but I'm a next movie.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I feel like they did a good job. There's something
about movies if they're like too green in those maybe
it's the greens of period pieces.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I didn't. I thought Sinaters was kind of red feeling.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I could see that. I think also Ryan Cooler, the director,
does a really good job at making movies feel modern
even though they're set in older times. Like with Michael B. Jordan,
he doesn't really he feels like he's from today, even
though he's in old clothes.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I think with this movie, I did not have an
expectation at all. I actually didn't expect to like it,
and I was only watching it because they were like, hey,
if you like this, the director will come on the show.
And I think they ran some ads or something, or
maybe it was just to get them on the show.
And so I got an advanced copy of it and
I just put it on the treadmill and I was like,
I'm gonna watch the first thirty minutes of this and
(14:11):
if I'm not feeling it, we're good. And I thought
the first thirty minutes was good, and so then oh,
let me just jump on in watch the whole thing.
Thought it was great, and it doesn't get vampirey until
way later in the movie, because I don't like horror,
don't I don't like jump scares. I don't mind zombies,
but vampires is that weird go between.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
It's kind of like a zombie Yeaes style that you're into.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah, I liked it. I put that in my number
two movie. But it probably a lot of that's based
on expectation. I had the expectation I would not like it,
and it was pretty good. So no nightmares after it,
not that I can remember. No, I did have nightmares
after Twilight back in the day of reading that book.
Also Vampires, Yeah, yeah, A number one half Frankenstein fantastic.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Again, I had no expectation. I didn't want to like
it because when I turned it on, the colors were green.
It was that kind of color period piece. The clothes
are weird. I din't like it, and I don't really
have a love for Frankenstein or the story in general.
I know it, I mean I kind of know it.
The scientist creates the big monster, the monster's got the
bolts in his neck, like we all know that. The Monsters,
(15:13):
you know, because the main character in the Monsters was
Frankenstein basically, So I have all of that. So I
really wasn't going into it going I want to love
this movie. But you had seen it and said it
was good. Eddie had seen it and said it was good.
So I liked how they split that up into different
parts like they do perspectives, the perspective of the scientist,
(15:33):
the perspective of some other people, the perspective of Frankenstein.
And so you're watching three different versions of the same story.
And I thought the Jacob Belori is at his name.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah, there's awesome in it, really good.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, And that's really not a role you expect someone
to have to be awesome. But I thought he did
a great job in that movie because Frankenstein has depth
and it shows Frankenstein like learning things. So I thought
he did a wonderful job with that.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Does that make you emotional at all? Like some of
the dialogue he said where he's like, I've never really lived,
but I never really died.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I think so. I was mostly like, because I'd seen
the video of how it h had it take eight
hours every single day to put all of the makeup on,
I was like, I would just think about that all
the time, like that must have sucked to have to
sit every day and put that on. And then I
would think, man, you really, after you put all this
time into something, you don't know how it's going to
turn out. You just go and you shoot this thing
and hope that the edit works out, that the story's good,
(16:21):
the script is good, that everything is it's to have
a hit, everything has to kind of work right, because
there's so many movies that come out that I'm sure
on script look great, but maybe the acting wasn't great,
or maybe some of the change in writing didn't turn
out right, or maybe the editing was bad or the music,
but everything kind of has to hit right in order
for it to be wonderful. And after you work on
a project for that long, because I've had projects like
television shows, I've recorded the whole show and you're like,
(16:43):
I wonder what this is going to look like once
it gets out of my hands and it comes back
and you're like, oh, that's pretty good or really good.
To do that with a movie where you had to
sit and make up eight hours every day, I was
kind of like, man, I hope this guy's happy because
it really paid off sitting in there for eight hours
every day.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
But I liked it.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
It was really good. That would be my number one movie,
and it was on Netflix and I didn't have to
pay extra for it, which I love.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
So next year not going back to the theater at all.
It's full of streaming.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I would have never chosen to go to the theater,
not even once. So I didn't like have a change
in how I operate other than I've made a change
in how I operate wherein I respect my wife and
what she wants to do. So I'm good never going
to theater again. I'll wait a month I'm perfect again.
I don't like to be told when I can watch
a movie, then I have to watch the whole movie
(17:29):
at that time. But I did have some good experiences.
We did watch the one one battle one that left
in another. Yeah, and I see why it's nominated for
everything one. It's completely original, so it's not a prequel.
It's not a sequel, it's not a reboot. Completely original
with a massive star DiCaprio, who acts the crap out
(17:51):
of it. He's awesome in it. There were some times too,
while they were shooting that movie, I thought, this feels
really original. That scene there's a chasing.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, one of the best in the last decade, I
would say.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
While that was happening, I even thought, and I'm not
good at movies, so I really can't spot great acting.
I thought, this is really cool how this is shot.
And when I left, I thought that was a long movie.
It it faught very long. I thought it was a
long movie. I did have to get up and go
to the bathroom during it, which I won't do like
I will hold it. But the bathroom was right next
to the door, like right when you walked out of
(18:25):
the theater. The bathroom was right there, so I knew
if I watched the screen all the way up to
the door, total in and out was going to be
like sixty seconds. So went to the bathroom real quick,
walked back in. Miss sixty seconds in the movie, but
it was that long that I had to go to
the bathroom, even though I emptied my bladder right before.
It was still good. I understand why it's up for
all the awards. I think if I could have watched
it in two parts, I would have loved it.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
That was like the longest movie I've seen this year.
That didn't feel that long. And I think the reason
I love it so much is because the chemistry between
Leonardo DiCaprio and Beniso do Toro, Like I think those
two together were per Yeah, he was great in the
two Did you it is funny? Like I felt like
it was more of a comedy or did you take
it as like this is a straight on drama going in?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I thought straight on drama, but then there there's some
physical type comedy. I don't know if comedy is the word,
but and I don't want to spoil too much of
the movie, but the bad guy in the movie, can
I say.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
This he's like in the military, he's a villain.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah, he's funny. Yeah, Like his character is kind of
funny in the ulous yes, yeah, so, And it's not
done in a way of we're trying to make a comedy,
nor is it so unbelievable, because I think there are
guys that act like that.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
But he's kind of funny.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah. The crowd in the theater laughed out loud a
couple of times. So because that happened, it felt a
little less like a drama and a little more. I
don't know what is it considered, Like, what is it?
What are the website?
Speaker 3 (19:51):
What's it called?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I think it's considered and like an action movie really, yeah,
majority of it his action action drama.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I think it goes so many different places that I
don't I have trouble definding it because I didn't know
what I would call it.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Feel like genres have kind of shifted a lot, like
coming of music. Yeah, like comedy is like a very
broad term now, but it does have a lot of
elements that are funny. And what you said right there,
that's why I like go into the theater, Like hearing
other people laugh makes me enjoy it more to you,
it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I just don't want to be told what time I
have to watch a movie, and I don't want to
be told I have to watch it all in one setting.
So but I did watch more movies this year than
I think any year in the past fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
That made me excited for you. I was like, yes,
because you've been saying like for the longest time you're
not a movie guy. And seeing you actually go to
the theater one but all the movies you have watched
this year, I was like, this is exciting.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Well, and I had surgery on my foot, so I'll
watch like three of them recently because I can't go anywhere.
I've just lay in the bed and watch movies. And
I think I've watched all the good shows, Like I
got to the end of Netflix. I got on the
end of all good shows on Netflix. They were like,
you got that message. I think you've been watching enough. Yeah,
you've watched enough Netflix. So yeah, good year for movies
over at our house because we watched a lot of
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them in the theater and and they come out streaming quicker.
It feels like, am I wrong?
Speaker 1 (21:01):
If a movie you kind of bombs, it'll come out sooner.
It'll come out within thirty to forty five days. If
it does really well, probably three months.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
People don't realize, like if you're younger back in the day,
six months. Yeah, Like you want to see Jurassic Park one. Okay,
it may come out in ninety six, but you're gonna
watch it at home on a VHS and like two
thousand and four, Like that's how long it would take
for a movie to actually get to blockbusters. So you
could go and run it now, Yeah, I see it,
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I store it, Mike set out yet stream yep, all right,
I'm gonna watch it.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
I think. Yeah. That's a lot of issues that people
have with even making money off of movies is because
they come out. If you don't go watch it, it feels
like it's not successful because when it goes to streaming,
it doesn't really have a chance to make money in
the back end. Before you had DVD sales, you had
VHS sales, and you had the ability to put it
on TV where more people would see it. But now
if it doesn't do well in theaters, it's like it's
kind of a failure.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Was Frankenstegin in theaters?
Speaker 1 (21:55):
No, it was, oh, it never was. No, it was
just straight Netflix. They put it in like a limited
runtime because they wanted to be nominated for Oscars, and
in order to be nominated for Oscars, you have to
have a theatrical run for at least a week, So
it comes out for like one weekend only, and then
just Netflix.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
It was so significant of a movie I assumed it
was in theaters because it didn't look cheap. It had
major actors, and it was good. A lot of those
straight to streaming movies. To me, you can tell it's
like the bad version of a big actor. Yeah, the
story's got a lot of holes and it's kind of corny.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Like anything Mark Wahlberg does right now is like straight streamer.
He was like the streamer actor.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
To me, I don't know that I've seen any of
Mark Wahlberg movies recently.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
I've seen way too many that are not good.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
All right, anything I should watch though going into the holiday,
So I have that movie written down. Oh yeah, Relay
from twenty twenty four, I.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Would say of my best of the year that you
would enjoy. You saw Weapons, Yeah, I saw Weapons.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, I forgot I even saw I saw that one.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, pretty good. You saw Bogonia.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Like Bogonia, I like Jesse Plummet's my favorite actor now
and you saw f one.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Yeah that was good.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Expect that to be good.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
We saw that in the theater.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
F One's really good.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
I probably would put that on my list, which I
could this month now too.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
So it's not out yet.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Still an Apple you can only buy it, but now
it'll be free on Apple.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Well, I've already watched it. But that's a good one.
And it's a little corny. But Brad Pitt's awesome in it.
Like he's still a great I don't know if that's
an action movie or not, but he's still great at
that stuff like having a shirt off and like doing
physical things. He's still great at that. And he's like
sixty years old.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
It helps that his act. His character in the movie
is like an older guy coming back and the young
guy kind of hates him.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah, it's a good point. But still it takes a
shirt off. He does not look like an old dude.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I would say, if there's anything you need to promote,
but I think you're good.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Right, don't promote it out merk Christmas, everybody, let's get
into it now.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
He's spoiler. A free movie review of ham Knitz starring
Paul Meskel, Jesse Buckley, directed by Chloe Jowell. I did
not read the book. You did? Were you excited for
it going into it?
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I'm gonna be honest, No, What did you feel.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
About the book? Wasn't it kind of was slow burn?
You were like.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Very slow burn.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
It was one of those where I picked it up
so that I could finish it, not that I was
excited to pick it back up. It was kind of
like almost when you have required reading for school. That's
what I felt like. It was like required reading to
finish it before the movie.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
But it's about William and Agnes Shakespeare, So it's a
fictional life story about the loss of their son.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Right, Yes, And I'm gonna be so honest. I read
the book, but never, obviously I knew it was about Shakespeare.
Never in the book did they say William Shakespeare. They
call him the Latin Tutor, like the whole time they
ever say like William Shakespeare, And so your brain has
to like keep reminding yourself this is about Shakespeare, and
oftentimes I forgot because.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
In the movie they do refer to him as will
do they ever call him.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
William No, but they I think at one point they
say William Shakespeare.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I thought Paul Meskal was incredible, and both of them together.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Paul Mescal and his slutty little earring.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yeah, you think I could pull off the single earing
That's what I was thinking the whole time, Like, could
I pull off the single earring? I feel like I
have to have a much better looking face than what
I have.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
I don't think you have to have a better looking
face than you have. I find your face very attractive.
I just think it has it also, like went with
the wardrobe and the time, but.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I feel like you could pull that off now without
the I mean William Shakespeare wardrobe.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
But it's very just like it's very Paul Mescal, Like
he just kind of gives off that vibe.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
He could pull off that. He could pull off the
short shorts. And he is just somebody who I think
acts on an entirely different level watching this movie, between
both of them, he's different than every other actor. He
was really intense. It's very intense and it was really emotional.
I just found the entire story to be kind of
more powerful than I was expecting. I thought this movie
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is gonna be kind of a snooze fest.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
I gotta say a very rare occasion where the movie
was better than the book. I feel like in the
book we get a lot of background of Agnes and
like her evil step mom, who you like barely even
realize in the movie is her stepmom.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Because they refer to as like a forest witch.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
No, that's about her real mom.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
All betterr real mom because.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Her mom died.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
You get a lot more background on Agnes of the book,
and I don't think that moves the story along as much.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
And in the book it's.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Very much like stare longingly gazed, wistfully went to the forest,
And I feel like they can just do those things
in the movie and it tells the story.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Better because the movie overall is the story of them
getting together. Nobody really wants them to be together.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Yeah, and you have way more in the book about
their backstory how they ended up together. Like his father
this isn't a spoiler, is in debt to her father,
all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
And they have a family together, they're living out kind
of on the countryside. I love the bird in this movie. Yes,
like it made want a pet bird even though I'm
kind of freak out by birds. I was like, if
I could have a bird that could return to me
on that little glove thing. Interesting, they gets a really
smart bird, Like, how do you do that? After watching
this movie, do you think it is in contingent for
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Best Picture? Yes, I think between this and One Battle
after Another, I think those are the two leaders. I
think Paul Meskell could win for Best Actor.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Those were one and two on the Rolling Stones. Oh really,
twenty of the Year.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
I didn't expect this movie to even enter my top ten,
could quite possibly enter my top five by the end
of it. How did you feel as far as how
emotional did it make you?
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Not as emotional as the girl?
Speaker 1 (27:20):
The girl? Okay, here's the weird part. There are obviously
it is a tragedy. They're gonna be sad things happening.
We won't say specifically what happens, but there are moments
that got me a little bit choked up. But the
girl next to.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Us, she brought her a little toilet paper.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
She was going through something. I feel like she which
the interesting thing was, before the movie started, she was
making fun of all the trailers that showed before the movie,
like the Hugh Jackman and Kate Hudson movie. She was like,
that looks terrible. Every movie, the c Sidney Sweety movie,
she was like, that looks terrible.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
She was going through something. I feel like the movie
was a cathartic release for her. But I just at
one point I heard her blowing her nose and I
was like, oh, maybe seasonal allergies. Because it's a time
of year when everyone's got like a cough sniffle in
the theater, which there's a lot of.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
It's a very quiet film.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
It's a very quiet.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yeah. That was hard for me when it started out
because we were both really hungry and it needed snacks
and I was like, I just gotta go for it.
But it's so quiet starting out.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
You wait till like the most quiet moments. Yeah, I
just because once like oh, no one's talking.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Once the once the action starts on screen, that is
my cue to start eating. Like I don't eat during
the previews.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
There was not much action in terms of this film.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
That's why whenever a movie starts out so quiet, I'm like, please,
I need to open my snacks, give me some sound here.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
But yeah, one point I look over and she is
just like on wrapping the toilet paper sobbing, like you
can hear the sobs.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
And this is like dollar store maybe gas station. Toilet
paper was one ply. It sounded like she was blowing
her nose with a receipt.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
I should have given her some tissues. I actually had
tissues in my purse.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
She was crying pretty hardcore, like pretty uncontrollably. We're like
a couple of times during this movie, which I heard
sniffles throughout the movie. I don't know if people were,
like you said, have allergies that were sick, but I
heard some. I hear some whimps, some weep weepings, the whimpers.
I hear some whims I had some weeps. No, but
I struggled letting the movie take a hold of me
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because she was going through it so hard, and while
the movie was impacting me and I was going through
these emotional stages and feeling a big connection to these characters,
I could not help the sound of the receipt going
and blowing her nose as she was crying throughout this movie.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Yeah it was I didn't ever feel like I was
gonna cry. But I also I've read the book.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
You knew what was coming that doesn't affect you a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Yeah, it made me feel things, but it didn't make
me cry.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
I thought. Also, the direction in this movie was really good,
because with any other director besides Chloe Jowell, this movie
could have been a total snooze fest because it does
take place in a period that is really hard to portray.
As far as making it feel modern, which i've I
feel like that's what helped this movie. It didn't feel
like it was It felt like it took place today,
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even though it was obviously way back in the day.
I think the sound design also helped that. Yeah, a
lot of the moments are very slow and kind of
drawn out, but it has this score underneath that feels
very modern, almost like these really weird sounds where the
speakers in the theater were kind of crackling, which was
an interesting thing and really made me feel connected to
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some of the action where they could have put some
really like classical music that you think more of, like
this feels like Shakespeare, but it didn't have that, So
I feel like that to me made the action move,
not that there's a lot of action in it, but
made the overall story move a little bit at a
different pace that was good from my brain who struggles
with things not being fifteen seconds or less. Right now, Yeah,
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it wasn't.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
It didn't feel slow, and that was my concern going
into it because I was like the book was slow,
so I was very afraid that the movie was gonna
move slowly. And some people I've seen like they loved
that book. They're like, the best one I've read this year,
Wait for the movie. That just wasn't my experience. Good book,
not my best.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Some people found it funny. I don't think I really
found it that funny.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Funny.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah, I heard people laughing throughout some of the things
early on that the kids were doing, which, by the way,
the kid actors in this were fantastic, so good, like
they are better than some adult actors I'm seeing this year.
Their characters go through so much where I'm like, where
do you find a kid who can act that well?
How do you even know at that age that you're
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a good actor.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
The little boy that played himnet and looked like Prince
George a bit.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
He did, he was probably the best so put. Him
and his sister were just like, these kids are just
next level.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
We're in just the like looks at the camera.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
The little nuances, which is hard to do. That's something
that you can't I don't feel like you could teach
that to a kid. But it was so powerful in
how subtle it was, especially through the third act of
this movie, which it takes you on an entirely different level.
But it's those performances from those young actors that are
like wow, that really brought the whole thing together. That
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puts any other kid actor, any other adult actor right
now kind of a shame. Yeah. I think that's what
was a really big strong point of this movie. I
don't want to reveal too much what happened in the
third act, but the third act I think that's what
really kind of made it feel like it had an
impact on me. And I think some people who are
maybe a little bit more high brow probably took more
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from this movie. As far as the story of William Shakespeare,
I think I just felt more of the emotion because
I don't really know much about the guy.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Yeah, I didn't even remember what Hamlet is about.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
So like because that's the story of like his son
Hamnet inspired Hamlet, and Hamnet and Hamlet were interchangeable.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
As far as names, I learned that in the very
opening scene of the movie. Yes, and then I thought
they brought it all together with the to Be or
Not to Be.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
We also got to talk about Joe Allen.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Oh, Yeah, who's had a lot of significant role since
breaking up with Taylor Swift.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Yes, it seems it's been good for his career.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
And do you not like him as an actor?
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Not like him, but I don't think he's done anything
where I'm like, Wow, he honestly is just like another
broody English white guy. He's not Paul Moscow like, he
doesn't have that level.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
To me, He's not leading man type of actor.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
I think he was great in kinds of Kindness. I
think that was where we saw him shine the most.
But like his other supporting roles and like the Brutalist
and this.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
But still since the breakup, he's been in movies that
we've actually seen in theaters. Before that, I just knew
of him that he was an actor, but didn't know
any of his work.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Yeah, I felt like he'd also starting his career then.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Yeah, takes a while to get on the big screen.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
If you had to rate Hamnet, what would you give it?
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Four out of five? Fencing Swords which do you fence
with anything other than the sword? Maybe I should have
just said I.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Think I sort vince with swords. I believe four to
five swords. I'm going to give it four out of five.
Was it a falcon or was it a hawk? I
think or a hawk. I think I'm gonna go four
point five at a five hawks, because I think it's
right up there with what I would also expect to
be nominated and possibly win Best Picture one battle after another.
And I think also the fact that I was expecting
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this movie to be boring and it wasn't boring.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
It wasn't boring, all right.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
That is our thoughts on Hamnet. There was no hand.
By the way, it's time to head down to movie.
Mic Traylor Paul two things. I could never be a
billionaire and a murderer. And hopefully, if you're listening to this,
you don't have the qualities to be the murderer. I
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would love for you to be a billionaire. That would
be amazing. I think we all fantasize about being a billionaire,
but I just don't think I have either of those
things in my personality that could allow me to get there.
To be a billionaire, you have to be incredibly driven,
which I think I am driven. I think in order
to get to the point that I have achieved now
in my life, it has taken a lot of drive.
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But to be a billionaire it's an a you also, for
lack of a better term, you have to exploit people
to some degree in order to become a billionaire. That's
how you do it. It's how you hoard all this wealth.
That's how you become a billionaire. So I think you
and I would never become billionaires because we are too moral,
unless we want the lottery. But even then, if you
actually think of the pressures of what it would be
like to be a billionaire, it would be too much
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for us. It'd be crazy. You think about spending a
billion dollars. I don't think we realize how much money
that is, and I don't think we realize all these
little things that come into play when you are a billionaire.
The stress would be crazy and a murderer. I could
never be that because I don't even like bothering people.
I'll go to Target and I'll need to get down
an aisle and there's somebody standing there at the exact
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same part of the aisle that I need to be.
I would even bother that. I'll be like, you know what,
I'll come back around. I'll go back the other way
just so I don't have to bother that person. So
if I don't want to bother somebody in Target, I
could never take somebody out. With some of these movies
coming out, are we starting to romanticized murder a little
bit too much? And I have this problem with people
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who are huge fans of true crime. I can never
get into that because I just feel this moral dilemma
with it taking satisfaction in other people's deaths and other
people's worst days of their life. That is really hard
for me to get into. But when it comes to
fictionalized things, I can lean into it a lot easier.
But I start to wonder about the psychological effects it
(36:27):
is having on me, because recently this year, I've found
myself rooting for villains and anti heroes much more than
I ever have in my life. And by watching this
trailer for How to Make a Killing starting Glenn Powell
and Margaret Quality, I start realizing more how I think
it's just become more apparent in the storylines that we've
been watching and these characters that we've been fascinated with,
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and I do think it has some roots in how
accepted in pop culture that true crime has become. But
what this movie is about. Glenn Powell plays a guy
whose mom was part of a really wealthy family. She
was exiled from that family, disowned by them, but she
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told him that someday this fortune is going to be
years and he is somebody who feels like the world
has just pitted all these things against him because he
was robbed of that life. He is now working at
a job where he sells suits. Margaret Qually comes in
and it looks like they have some kind of pass
where she tells them like, oh, you're living in the
city and he's like, yeah, kind of around there, but
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he's really living in a really run down part of town.
And she kind of puts this idea in his head
because she knows the family money that he is connected to, like, hey,
if you ever decide to take out on your brothers
and sisters, call me. And with that idea implanted into
his head, it now becomes a plan. And that is
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the plot of this movie. Before I get into more,
here is just a little bit of the how to
make a killing trailer since the day I was born.
My mother told me we were different. Yes, she had
been disowned by her family, but someday I would become
the sole heir. The real estate planes an island or two.
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There were seven of them, seven rich pricks between myself
and twenty eight billion dollars sweeny eight billion dollars. You
hear the pain in his voice in this trailer. You
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see him take out what I would assume to be
his first victim. His brother is passed out on this
big boat like a yacht, and he ties an anchor
to his foot, and at the time he is doing that,
his brother wakes up, makes contact with him, and then
immediately the anchor takes him down into the sea. And
you see Glenn Powell's character in that moment to be
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a little bit poor. He replies in a very calm tone.
He doesn't seem like this over the top murderer just yet.
So that is why I assume it's his first victim.
And as he goes through these seven people, which I
don't know if he's gonna make it to all seven,
he probably starts to get more comfortable with it, maybe
a little bit too comfortable, because you do see that
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he gets a little bit of heat on him. It
looks like the FBI becomes aware of the connection of
all these people dying. At one point, it looks like
he does get arrested or at least questioned by some
FBI officers. But I really am a fan of the
tone of his character in the trailer, where he is
this calm, cool and collected guy who is just angry.
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He wants to get revenge. It is a revenge thriller
on all these people standing in the way of the
life he thinks he deserves. And I think that is
why I struggle with these types of situations right now mentally,
is because what he is doing is wrong. Murder is wrong.
But this movie is kind of gonna put you into
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this state of mind of what it means not completely wrong.
What if he does deserve this? What if this movie
can make you start to root for him, which is
a weird position to put yourself in, because obviously he's
doing something bad. He should be taken down by the
FBI and put into jail. But what does it say
about us that we kind of want to see him succeed?
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Is it just because it is a movie. It's a fake.
It's all for fun. And obviously I just love movies
so much that I overanalyze how they affect us and
our brains. But I just have found myself struggling with
this idea of rooting for a villain, especially one as
charismatic as Glenn Powell. Where to me, he kind of
feels like Christian Balees's character in American Psycho. That is
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the overall vibe I'm getting from this trailer where You're
never gonna suspect this guy, because there's one shot of
Glenn Powell and this trailer that he almost looks like
a doll. He looks so perfect that if I were
a character in this movie, why would I ever suspect
him of murder? I think him and Margaret Quality paired together,
it's perfect. They are two of the hardest working people
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in Hollywood right now. I feel like they are both
in like two to three movies a year, but they
still don't have that one flagship role that they are
known for. They are so close. Margaret Quality with the substance,
I think that should have been her that put her
on an entirely different level. She should have won all
the awards for that movie, but still not quite there.
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But I think she is a fantastic actress and any
movie she is in I'm gonna watch because that is
how noteworthy I believe she is. And Glenn Powell, I
am just rooting for so hard, and he has broken
into the Hollywood system with movies like anyone, but you
top Gun. I don't think The Running Man really panned
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out the way anybody involved in that movie thought it
was going to. But I don't think it hurt him.
I think if it would have been successful, a box
office smash, it would have put him in that a
list undeniable category. But I enjoy now that we are
seeing him in an entirely different role an a twenty
four movie. This movie is also from director John Patton Ford,
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who made his directorial debut with Emily the Criminal, which
starred Aubrey Plaza. If you haven't seen this movie, it
was one of my favorite thrillers of the last five years.
It is still on Netflix, and that movie is about
Aubrey Plaza's character, who is in a bunch of student debt.
She can't find a job she graduated college and then
(42:35):
gets involved in a credit card scam where she gets
an underground job as a dummy shopper where she will
go buy things with fake credit cards, and then it
just gets crazier and crazier as she gets further and
further into this shady business. And again, another movie that
kind of has your root for the bad guy and
I Love Me a movie that can induce anxiety. So
(42:56):
if you can do that with Emily the criminal, I'm
hoping for more of that to make a killing, because
he has a really great way at making these crime
stories feel very grounded in reality, because if you think
about it, a guy just getting an idea to kill
seven people to make twenty eight billion dollars, it could
seem so ridiculous and outlandish, but by the looks of
(43:18):
this trailer, it looks like it's all going to kind
of makes sense, and you're going to buy into the
idea of him going through with this plan and maybe
convincing himself that he can actually pull it off. You
also have in this cast Ed Harris and Toferd Grace,
who his character looks very similar to his character in
that seventies show Eric Foreman. Or maybe it's just hard
(43:40):
for me to not see him as that character. This
movie is coming out next year on February twentieth. Can
he pull it off?
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Head?
Speaker 3 (43:48):
That Bar is this link's edition of movie by Framer.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
Bar and that is going to do it for another
episode here of the podcast. But before I go, I
gotta give my listeners shout out of the week. How
do you get one of those? You can comment on
my YouTube channel YouTube dot com slash Mike Distro. You
can send me a DM on any of my socials,
which you can always find in the podcast notes or
(44:11):
episode descriptions. Or if you're old school and you want
to send me a message via carrier pigeon. I have
carrier pigeons running around the clock. Just let me know
and I'll send them to your address. No, but you
can email me Moviemike d at gmail dot com. This week,
I'm going over to X and shouting out Shan who
wrote thank you, Hulu should stay and Disney Plus should
(44:34):
move over as a kid's profile, absolute worst interface. This
was in response to something I said a couple of
weeks ago where I hate the idea of Hulu going
away and it all merging with Disney Plus because I
believe out of all streaming services. I'm talking HBO Max,
I'm talking Toby, I am talking Paramount Plus, Peacock, Disney Plus.
(45:00):
It has the worst interface. And since I've said that,
I think they did do an update where they're getting
ready to merge them a little bit. They're setting up
some tabs. But the interface on Disney Plus is so
awful when it just comes to wanting to search around
for things, which sometimes I'll open up a streaming service
without intention, and that's the worst thing you need to do.
(45:22):
I will say a lot of me being prepared for
this podcast and knowing what I want to review each week,
and knowing what movies I need to watch for research.
I always go into a streaming service with a plan.
But sometimes there'll be a day where there's a good
football games on, there's no new movies out that I
want to see, and I just want to be fed
something maybe I haven't seen in a while. And Disney
(45:45):
should be the home of all that, having all those
nostalgic movies from Disney Channel and old school eighties and
seventies Disney movies. I should be able just to get
on there and browse around. But the interface is so awful.
If I want to pick up on a show I've
been watching. I just hate it so much. On the
other hand, I love the Hulu interface that makes it
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so easy. It categorizes things perfectly. The Disney interface is
so slow, and I'm dreading the day where everything gets
moved over there. So thank you Shan for sharing in
that frustration. Hopefully by the time they do away with Hulu,
they get Disney Plus right, but thank you for writing in.
Thank you all for listening wherever you are, and until
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next time, go out and watch good movies and I
will talk to you later.
Host
Mike D
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